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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:03,560 Up and down the UK, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,120 it feels like everybody is talking about one thing. 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:08,840 Attention Deficient Hyperactivity Disorder is one of 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,000 the most searched health-related hashtags, 5 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:14,080 amassing over 20 billion views. 6 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:16,200 Why do people not take ADHD seriously? 7 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,960 Over 200,000 people are on the waiting list for a diagnosis, 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,120 with waiting times of up to eight years. 9 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,760 If I hadn't been able to afford, 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,840 whatever that was, £500 at that time, 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,520 I would still have been on an NHS waiting list. 12 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:36,600 Social media is awash with ADHD-related content, 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:40,080 and famous faces starting to talk publicly about it. 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,280 As a kid I was a complete nightmare kid, 15 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,840 running around the place, couldn't, you know, 16 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,080 couldn't control my emotions. 17 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,840 I'm Dr Karan Rajan, medical myth buster and health educator. 18 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 ADHD might be easier to understand if you think about it as 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,200 a dopamine deficiency compared to a neurotypical brain. 20 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,440 I'm fascinated by the huge explosion 21 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,280 of interest surrounding the condition, 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,320 to the point of which everyone is talking about it. 23 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,520 The whole of my childhood is papered 24 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:10,800 with everybody telling me to calm down. 25 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,880 And it's not just millennials offering opinion. 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,080 The mobile phone made everyone ADHD. 27 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:22,320 It's a hugely complex topic, with a huge variety of symptoms. 28 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,720 And as the saying goes, "If you've met one person with ADHD, 29 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,040 "you've met ONE person with ADHD", which makes diagnosis a minefield. 30 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:32,880 So, we're going to help. 31 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,000 For those people on the waiting list, 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,800 for those of you who suspect a diagnosis might be 33 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:42,000 a good idea, we have the world-leading experts. 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,240 It's not just the worried well, if you see what I mean. 35 00:01:45,280 --> 00:01:48,760 It's real, but because it's so common, it's coming to light. 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,680 The most authoritative neurodiverse voices... 37 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:53,880 We know the right things to do to help ourselves 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,920 and make ourselves feel better. 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,840 ..and some world-beating commentators. 40 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,000 Sometimes I have to many things in my head, 41 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,040 that I just lose everything. 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Dr Clare Bailey Mosley and I are going to take you through all of 43 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:18,160 the stages of diagnosis, from form filling to the final assessment. 44 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,320 What do you to relax? I don't, I suppose. 45 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,880 We'll explain what constitutes a diagnosis... 46 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:28,160 Everybody loses their keys sometimes, but if you've got ADHD, 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,880 it needs to be significantly more than you would expect. 48 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:35,080 ..and you can join in by filling out this assessment form. 49 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,920 We'll explain later. 50 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,360 We're here to steer you through a myriad of information 51 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,440 to help you on your way to whatever that outcome may be. 52 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 So what do people with ADHD say it's like? 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:56,400 Normally my brain is almost as if there's like all of these sort 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,000 of particles, firing off in different directions 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:00,040 all at the same time. 56 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:05,680 It is like having a Ferrari engine but having bicycle brakes. 57 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,600 It feels like there's just always 58 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:11,320 a swarm of bees in my brain that are just always are going at 59 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,400 each other, are trying to fight each other, 60 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,240 trying to get to the top of my attention. 61 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,600 It was like 20 televisions on at once. 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,320 And you can't really tell what channel it's on and what it... 63 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,520 ..what anything is saying. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,640 2.6 million people in the UK have ADHD, 65 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,920 and there's probably a lot more without an official diagnosis. 66 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,720 Yes, private assessments are quicker, but on the NHS, 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:37,920 the waiting list can be 68 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:41,560 a matter of years, all depending on where you live. 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,120 We're going to look at what exactly constitutes a diagnosis. 70 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,760 You'll primarily be assessed on three criteria. 71 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,800 The first is for those inattentive symptoms, 72 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,560 defined by someone who can be easily distracted and forgetful. 73 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,640 Next, are traits of hyperactivity and impulsiveness, 74 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,080 often characterised by restlessness, 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,160 excessively talking and acting without thinking. 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,240 And the third is impairment. 77 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,440 To be diagnosed, 78 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:13,320 your life has to be significantly impacted by ADHD. 79 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,560 It's not just a case of losing your keys. 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 To give you a step-by-step understanding of 81 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,600 the diagnosis process, Dr Clare Bailey Mosely has agreed 82 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,760 to share her assessment journey with us. 83 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:30,960 Clare is a former GP and widow of the late, lovely, Michael Mosley. 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:33,440 Throughout their life together, 85 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,920 she believed there were indications that they both had the condition. 86 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,920 Michael would wait until the last moment to write his articles 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,720 and wait until the pressure was there, 88 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,880 which is a really classic thing 89 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,200 before you actually get into the zone and then power through. 90 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:57,480 Clare's own big aha moment came when her inattentiveness nearly led 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,640 to fire in a friend's kitchen. 92 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:04,840 I cooked a meal and I left my rice cooking. Went off, 93 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,840 came back and there was smoke billowing around 94 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:10,760 the kitchen and it was very embarrassing. 95 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:13,680 Clare may be a doctor, 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:18,080 but she can't simply diagnose herself. There are formal steps. 97 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,120 I haven't had an assessment but I've had an inkling 98 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,160 for some time that I do have ADHD in some form. 99 00:05:31,280 --> 00:05:33,200 If you want to be diagnosed, 100 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,720 you have to start by looking backwards. 101 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 ADHD is a neurodivergent condition, 102 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,880 which most experts would say you are born with. 103 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,680 So a diagnosis will look at childhood behaviours. 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,640 Argh! 105 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,640 So whether it's your child now or what you were like as 106 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,040 a child then, what are the traits to spot? 107 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,800 Hello. 108 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:56,000 I'm here at a sensory experience to get 109 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:58,440 the expert view from the mouths of babes... 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:05:59,480 Help. 111 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:03,960 I'm Mikey, M-I-K-E-Y, Mikey, and I'm seven. 112 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,400 ..and hang out with Professor Stephen Scott, 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,800 the number-one world-leading academic 114 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:11,520 and clinician in the research of ADHD, 115 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,680 to find out what behaviours an assessment will be looking for. 116 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,480 So if you're a parent at home, 117 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,120 what are some signs that you can really pick out that 118 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:24,960 to differentiate between maybe just a personality trait of that child 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:30,240 vs something that could be ADHD and a pathological condition? 120 00:06:30,280 --> 00:06:31,720 First of all, if you're just watching in 121 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,600 the school playground, are they running around 122 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:34,640 more than other kids? 123 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,160 At the table, compared with their brother, 124 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,760 do they have to keep getting up and down? 125 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,040 Are they always forgetting things much more? Are they leaving kit, 126 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,320 gym kit at school and that sort of thing, this disorganisation? 127 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,560 The second step is to ask 128 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,640 the teachers what they're like in class. 129 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,560 If they are fine in class, it's something else, it's not ADHD. 130 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,920 But if the teacher says, "Yes, they're very disruptive. 131 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,960 "They're always chatting and talking to the other people. 132 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,840 "They keep wandering around. They seem to be daydreaming. 133 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,760 "You know, come back!", Then you're more likely to be onto 134 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,360 something. Because if it's both at school 135 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:06,000 and at the home, then it's more likely that you should be concerned 136 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,120 about it. 137 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Carry on! This room is... It's really satisfying and nice. 138 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,960 But look down, Oliver. 139 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,640 It can give you an extremely good memory or it can give you 140 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:22,240 a memory that is almost equivalent to a goldfish. 141 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,680 Things just feel, maybe, a bit more hyper. 142 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,240 And also, I fidget a lot. I mean a lot, a lot. 143 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:37,200 Sometimes I have too many things in my head that I just lose everything, 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,080 so I can't think of what I'm saying. 145 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,000 Do you find concentrating tricky? 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,240 Erm, sometimes. 147 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,360 ADHD presents so differently in different people. 148 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,920 What are some of the core symptoms of ADHD? 149 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,440 The boys are often hyperactive and impulsive, 150 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,720 which means they get referred to services, 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:01,480 whereas the girls can just be inattentive 152 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,760 and it can be missed until adolescence. 153 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,040 So whilst it is commoner in boys when you do surveys, 154 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,720 two-and-a-half times more common in boys than girls, 155 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,160 the referral rate to our services is four-to-one, boys-to-girls. 156 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,320 Because they're causing more trouble in the family, 157 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,160 they're being more difficult. 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,200 AGH! SHE LAUGHS 159 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:23,480 What's hard about ADHD is sometimes I say things that are, 160 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,600 like, I never knew that were actually really rude, 161 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 so I just say it without thinking. 162 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,720 So we're hearing more about ADHD being on the rise. 163 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,680 Do you think that's a result of increased awareness 164 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,440 and we're getting better at diagnosing it? 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,600 Or there something environmentally? 166 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:43,400 I think the evidence is actually clear, 167 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,080 because when we do surveys in whole community, 168 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:50,480 epidemiological surveys, it is so common. 5%. 169 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,280 Now, epilepsy 1% or 2%. Autism is 1%. 170 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,120 This is five times more common. 171 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,240 So actually, we're getting much more referrals. 172 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 So I've been looking at - in the South London Maudsley Trust, 173 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,040 which is the biggest mental health trust in 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Europe, actually - of those referred, 175 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,720 how many when they finally get to be assessed have got it? 176 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:11,480 94% have. Wow. 177 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,280 So it is not just the worried well, if you see what I mean. 178 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,280 It's real but because it's so common, it's coming to light. 179 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,160 So first, be reassured, you might have every right 180 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,960 to be asking, "Does my child or do I have ADHD?" 181 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,240 If you are an adult starting out on the journey to diagnosis, 182 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,520 there are ways of looking more closely at childhood behaviour. 183 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:39,360 Recollections from your school, family and friends will help, 184 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,720 and, of course, your own memories. 185 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,200 So, I've found some old books from when 186 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:48,520 I was nine or ten, which is quite interesting. 187 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:53,280 Fortunately for Clare, these jotters have teacher comments, 188 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:57,640 as well as surprisingly good handwriting for a future GP. 189 00:09:57,680 --> 00:10:03,480 "Unfinished. You waste too much time. You made a good start. 190 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,960 "It was a pity to spoil it." 191 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,720 "Please finish." I think I've got quite a few of those. 192 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:15,280 Four out of ten. So it wasn't terribly motivating somehow. 193 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,800 Like many women across the UK, 194 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,520 Clare is from a generation who were simply missed by 195 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:24,600 the system of the time and are now looking for answers. 196 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,080 When I'm looking through these books, 197 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:31,560 I think there are significant clues, the fact that I kind 198 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,720 of really focussed on things that I was interested in 199 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 and barely finished the things that I wasn't. 200 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,320 So where might you start if you too are looking for answers? 201 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,080 We are using an ADHD screening form from the WHO, 202 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:51,960 easily found if you put those words into your internet search engine. 203 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,560 It's a symptom checklist designed by the WHO, 204 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,320 the World Health Organisation. 205 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,080 And it's not a diagnostic tool on its own, but it could give 206 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,640 a strong indication - if you tick four or more 207 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,680 of these grey boxes - that if you wish, 208 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,720 you may benefit from an ADHD assessment, so let's begin. 209 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,560 So first question - 210 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,920 "How often do you have difficulty wrapping up 211 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,320 "the final details of a project?" I have to say 212 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,600 I do love a good project. I can get very involved in it. 213 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,280 But I do kind of fade a little bit towards the end. 214 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:31,480 Number two, "How often do you have difficulty 215 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,440 "getting things in order when you have to do 216 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,920 "a task that requires organisation?" 217 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,880 "How often do you have problems remembering appointments 218 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:42,920 "and obligations?" 219 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:48,480 I think probably that's my most frustrating thing. 220 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,040 "When you have a task that requires a lot of thought, 221 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,160 "how often do you avoid or delay getting started?" 222 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:59,280 "How often do you fidget and squirm with your hands or feet 223 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,400 "when you have to sit down for a long time?" 224 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,680 "How often do you feel overly active 225 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:08,720 "and compelled to do things like you were driven by a motor?" 226 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,320 That's Part A of the form. 227 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,960 If you tick four or more marks in the shaded boxes, 228 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,400 then your symptoms are consistent with ADHD in adults. 229 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Section B provides additional context. 230 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:24,880 But what about other things you might have heard about the condition? 231 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,680 ADHD arms? 232 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,600 Next, I'll help myth bust some of what's being said on our socials. 233 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Do you do when you go to sleep at all? 234 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,720 Where you curl up like this? 235 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:37,200 You know? No. No? 236 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,720 In a world in which over 200,000 people 237 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,560 are waiting for a diagnosis, 238 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,600 do you have ADHD? 239 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,440 Lots of you have what are known as ADHD traits, 240 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,800 but do they add up to a diagnosis? 241 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,920 It's quite difficult to explain how it doesn't affect my life. 242 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,200 It affects my health, 243 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,480 it affects my sleep, 244 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,760 my diet, my exercise, literally everything. 245 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,920 If I'm losing things on a constant basis, like, 246 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,920 that's very expensive and very frustrating. 247 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Yeah, and again it has that knock on effect of confidence - 248 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,840 of, like, why can't I just adult like everybody else? 249 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,320 Dr Clare is exploring a diagnosis, 250 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,520 having thought about it for years. 251 00:13:23,560 --> 00:13:26,560 It's a journey of self-discovery. 252 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,720 I'm curious. 253 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,600 So, did you tick four or more grey boxes 254 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,920 on the WHO self-assessment survey? 255 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,240 If you look at my form, 256 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,560 out of the six questions, 257 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,920 only one of the answers are in the grey box. 258 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,040 One out of six wouldn't meet the threshold 259 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,960 for a formal ADHD assessment. 260 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,440 I have got my score. 261 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,320 I scored four, 262 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,680 which puts me just over the line. 263 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,800 And that is particularly in the areas 264 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,560 of being impulsive 265 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,720 and time blindness. 266 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:08,480 You know, I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next. 267 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,680 The first step is, 268 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,320 if you're an adult, you need to speak to your GP 269 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,160 and discuss with them whether you'd be eligible 270 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,120 for an NHS ADHD assessment. 271 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,520 And if you're worried that your child has ADHD, 272 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,080 you can speak to their GP - as well as their school - 273 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,080 and also get them referred for an NHS ADHD assessment. 274 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,920 There's also a private route available. 275 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,920 There is useful information online 276 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,920 to help you figure out if an assessment is warranted. 277 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:35,560 But is the sheer wealth of it 278 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,360 actually being counterproductive? 279 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,680 ADHD arms? 280 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,920 You know, you kind of just stand like this 281 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,560 when you're thinking about something. 282 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,640 T-rex arms. Have you seen this? T-rex arms? 283 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,320 Do you do this when you go to sleep at all, 284 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:48,920 where you curl up like this? 285 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,120 You know. No. No. No. 286 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,520 Have you ever done that yourself? 287 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,920 Yeah, or seen anyone do that? 288 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,560 No. Probably with the duvet just to get warm... Yeah. 289 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:58,680 ..and snuggly. 290 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,920 So this next clip is the dot test - and it's a test of someone's focus. 291 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,600 So, according to this clip, 292 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,600 if you stare at the flashing blue dot in the middle, 293 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,840 you should be able to make all three yellow dots 294 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,000 in the periphery disappear. 295 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:13,920 And if you can't make them disappear, 296 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,520 then this clip says that you've likely got ADHD, 297 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,200 or a strong chance of that. 298 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,120 OK, so this is a dot test, 299 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:24,920 and you should see the other circles on the outside disappear 300 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Well, two of them are gone. OK. Now they're back. 301 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:29,160 No, not for me. 302 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Any luck? No, they're still there. One, two, three. 303 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,320 So, according to this test, you could have ADHD. 304 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,920 Or you're just easily distracted. 305 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,200 That could be me, too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 306 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:40,920 Do you think you guys have ADHD? 307 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,960 No. No? No. No. 308 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:44,440 Have you ever been diagnosed with ADHD? 309 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:45,680 No, I have not. 310 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,760 And do you think this test is good enough to diagnose you? 311 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:50,680 No! Yeah? Why not? 312 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,160 It just seems a bit silly. 313 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,520 If you seriously think you have ADHD, 314 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,040 be mindful of internet diagnostics. 315 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,280 T-rex arms and dot tests are fun, 316 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,600 you may procrastinate, 317 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,280 you may interrupt or talk a lot, 318 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,920 you may stim or skin pick, 319 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:09,320 all of which are fine. 320 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,360 But an assessment will go much deeper. 321 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,920 And as we've said, queues for assessments can be very long, 322 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,160 so is a formal diagnosis even necessary for you? 323 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:28,040 Dr Val Harpin has spent no less than 30 years researching ADHD. 324 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:29,640 We have a huge backlog, 325 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,560 so now we're trying to diagnose lots of adults - 326 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,920 particularly women - 327 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,920 who were missed when we only thought ADHD was a narrow situation. 328 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,760 And now it's really key that we deal with the backlog 329 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,240 and help those people. 330 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,360 So, should everyone get diagnosed if they think they might have it? 331 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,800 There are upsides and downsides to having a diagnosis. 332 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,320 I think if you're a young child, there are no down sides, 333 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,920 because the sooner you get diagnosed 334 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,920 and you get the right help and people understand you, 335 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,040 the better. 336 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:07,600 But when you're older, 337 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:11,600 I think people have lots of different responses. 338 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,640 Sometimes I think the biggest thing is relief. 339 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,400 Er, "Yeah, that explains it." 340 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:21,040 Sometimes it makes them also feel resentful. Mm. 341 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,320 You know, "My life could've been so different if only I'd known." 342 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:27,520 So there are some downsides. 343 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,480 So people struggling underneath, below the surface... 344 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Yeah. ..where life is quite difficult 345 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,920 and can be impaired in many ways. 346 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,360 One of the important things when it comes to ADHD, 347 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:41,720 because everybody can look at a checklist, 348 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,240 but just going "yes, yes, yes" is not diagnosing ADHD. 349 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:50,920 The bottom line is that it needs to cause you significant problems. 350 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,120 Everybody forgets things sometimes. 351 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,640 Everybody loses their keys sometimes. 352 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,280 And we're more likely to do that if there are other stressors 353 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,840 in life or whatever. 354 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,680 But if you've got ADHD, 355 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:05,560 it needs to be significantly more than you would expect 356 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:06,920 for that person's age, 357 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,680 for their cognitive ability and for their situation. 358 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,840 So just doing it a bit of the time is not ADHD. 359 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,960 You have to do it in more than one situation and consistently. 360 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,240 It's important to say that being "impaired" 361 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,320 doesn't mean there's no help or support 362 00:18:28,360 --> 00:18:30,920 that you can access for your ADHD. 363 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,480 Not that everything about the condition is a problem. 364 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,040 It's just under a year since my first book came out. 365 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,520 A lot of you have read this one, actually. 366 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,240 I think around 20,000 of you, which is wild. 367 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:43,560 Ellie Middleton likes to shout about the positives 368 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:44,920 of having the condition. 369 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:46,920 She's written two empowering books 370 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:51,920 and has built up an audience online of 500,000 followers. 371 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,920 I think the big thing that I've learnt 372 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,040 and tried to, like, preach to other people, 373 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:57,920 is just don't be afraid to make things 374 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,040 as easy for yourself as humanly possible. 375 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:04,200 ADHD is also characterised by traits 376 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:09,040 of creativity, resilience, excellent problem-solving skills. 377 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,360 Entrepreneur Alex Partridge is the founder 378 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,160 of the social media platform LADbible. 379 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:15,720 He's now a leading voice, 380 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,320 with his podcast garnering over five million views. 381 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:22,560 Getting an ADHD diagnosis was incredibly validating. 382 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,040 You get reassured by a professional 383 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,520 that the suspicions that you have about your brain are valid 384 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,440 and you start looking back through your entire life 385 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,680 through this new lens that you have. 386 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:42,240 And you start adding colour to situations from your past. 387 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:43,920 Taking everything into account, 388 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,520 Clare has decided to proceed with a full clinical assessment - 389 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:49,480 and is booking one that can be filmed 390 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,680 for the purposes of this programme. 391 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,240 So, if you've decided to be assessed or been referred, 392 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:55,560 you should know that both the prep 393 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,120 and the assessment can be lengthy. 394 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,760 The assessment process is actually really complex. 395 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,920 Because you need to understand somebody's whole life history, 396 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,920 the environment that they grew up in, 397 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,320 you know, their family background, 398 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:12,920 to have the ability to understand 399 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,920 whether their symptoms are explained by ADHD 400 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,240 or whether they could be better explained by something else. 401 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:21,440 In the assessment for ADHD, 402 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560 they ask you so much about your childhood. 403 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:24,920 It's very in-depth, 404 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,920 and it can be quite sensitive 405 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,680 because nothing is off-limits to talk about. 406 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,640 I'm slightly nervous about it, I have to say. 407 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,680 Because it might show things that I hadn't even recognised. 408 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,920 And I'm really looking forward to finding out, really. 409 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,520 An assessment may be done by number of ADHD specialists, 410 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,480 such as a psychiatrist. 411 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,640 Clare is with Vicki George, 412 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,240 a private Clinical Nurse Specialist in ADHD. 413 00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:58,480 Hello, Vicki. Hi. 414 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,760 Really nice to meet you. Lovely to meet you. 415 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,080 The first criteria an assessment will look at 416 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:05,720 is inattentive behaviour. 417 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,440 This causes difficulties with concentration, 418 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,280 focus and organisation. 419 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560 In our brains, there's a group of interconnected regions 420 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,360 called the Default Mode Network. 421 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:20,920 In a neurotypical brain, 422 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,920 the DMN quietens down when attention is needed. 423 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,760 But for someone with ADHD, 424 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:28,920 it is often dysregulated, 425 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,520 meaning it is excessively active and less able to switch off. 426 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:36,080 This can make it harder to store information, 427 00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:37,960 resulting in memory lapses. 428 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,520 So the first thing I want to look at 429 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,720 is inattentive symptoms associated with ADHD. 430 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,200 Having an ADHD assessment can be really emotionally challenging - 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,360 for most people, actually. 432 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Because you're sat in front of a professional 433 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,680 that you've only just met for starters, 434 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,280 and they're asking you to kind of disclose your whole life story. 435 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,520 Do you notice anything in terms of, like, 436 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,440 how you listen in conversations? 437 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,280 It shouldn't be anything less than 2.5 hours, 438 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,400 but actually it quite often exceeds that. 439 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,840 I certainly... As a child, I daydreamed. 440 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,120 I can remember probably more about school 441 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,920 staring out of the window. 442 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,800 We're looking for how somebody is able to concentrate, 443 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,280 focus in different settings. 444 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,680 What about your mind wandering? 445 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:26,920 I'm sure that happens, 446 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,920 but it's difficult for me to measure because it's wandered. 447 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:32,360 Do they overcompensate, 448 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,720 do they mask their difficulties from others? 449 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:41,160 Certainly, Michael was aware of my poor timekeeping. 450 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,200 Quite often, people can see the problems 451 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,920 that ADHD is causing in their lives 452 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,760 but can't quite figure out why that's happening. 453 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,320 I just think I have been living with it... Yeah. 454 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:58,560 ..you know, sort of comfortably but with the odd blip. 455 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,400 So Clare definitely displays 456 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,920 a lot of the inattentive-type symptoms. 457 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,320 So, again, dating back to childhood. 458 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,760 Comments from teachers about, you know, 459 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,600 starting off with enthusiasm, not finishing. 460 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,360 And then, you know, throughout her adult life, 461 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,280 time management is a real issue for her. 462 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,840 So it's just digging a bit deeper of whether this is 463 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,800 a problem or not, basically. 464 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,080 The inattention stage of the diagnosis is over. 465 00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:33,920 A trait that can be tough to manage 466 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,240 in a neurotypical world. 467 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,080 However, the flip side of the symptom, for some, 468 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:39,520 is hyperfocus. 469 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,240 Hyperfocus refers to an intense fixation 470 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,560 on an interest or activity for extended periods of time. 471 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,760 Now, someone who experiences hyperfocus 472 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,600 are often so absorbed in that activity they can block out 473 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,240 the entire world around them. 474 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,120 When I was writing both of my books, 475 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:03,280 I would literally sit for, like, five, six hours a day 476 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:04,920 and just pour out words, 477 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,440 and just go and go and go. 478 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,400 And then, once that sort of hyperfocus, 479 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,320 hyper-fixation had worn off, I literally, for a month, 480 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,040 didn't write a single word. 481 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Your vision just goes into tunnel vision, 482 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,920 and everything else to you becomes invisible 483 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,320 and ceases to exist. 484 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,720 And the focus that you have for that thing 485 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,920 is more than the average person would relate to. 486 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,920 And that hyperfocus can enable you to become world-beating 487 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,920 at that thing, world-class at that thing. 488 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,320 But hyperfocus doesn't choose what you focus on. 489 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:43,840 In 2019, George King scaled the Shard, 490 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,920 the tallest building in the UK, 491 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960 using no safety equipment. 492 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,360 He went to prison for two months, 493 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,920 and that's because it was incredibly dangerous 494 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,480 and illegal. 495 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,920 But for George, it seems this kind of intense heart-stopping activity 496 00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:03,280 is how some of his ADHD traits manifest. 497 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:08,320 For me, hyperfocus really came in in the preparation process. 498 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:09,560 I'd go into the concierge. 499 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,760 I'd speak to the concierge. Wow. 500 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,440 I'd find my way up to the office levels 501 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,040 and look at the facade from a close-up view. 502 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,440 Other times, I'd dress up in sports gear, 503 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,920 I'd run to the Shard and I'd stretch on a pillar. 504 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,240 And I'd see on the pillar 505 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,080 that it goes from a wrist to my elbow. 506 00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:26,400 And then I'd run back home and I'd measure from my wrist to my elbow, 507 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:27,920 and that would be one measurement. 508 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,480 And I'd do hundreds of these 509 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,200 different reconnaissance missions, 510 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,120 only getting one piece of information 511 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,120 at each and every given time. 512 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,920 I wouldn't have been able to do this 513 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,960 level of meticulous planning without having ADHD. 514 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,560 George scaled the 350-metre pointy behemoth 515 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,080 in 45 minutes. 516 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:54,200 When you're climbing it freehand, free solo... Yeah. 517 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,920 ..I mean, your life's in your fingertips. 518 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,680 So there's no time for any other thoughts, 519 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,760 you're totally dialled into the moment. 520 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,040 Living with ADHD is very chaotic. Yeah. 521 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:05,640 The thoughts are relentless. 522 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,200 They never stop. 523 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,760 But when I have something which actually means something to me, 524 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,440 all those thoughts become compressed and then channelled into one thing. 525 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,280 The universe gets out of the way 526 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,400 and it's only this thing in front of me, 527 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,080 and it's a very fierce level of focus - 528 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:23,520 and it's unwavering. 529 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,080 ADHD gave me the ability to be hyperfocused, 530 00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:32,360 to plan so meticulously. 531 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,640 So I'm blessed that I have it. Yeah. 532 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:36,920 I see it as a gift. 533 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,280 I do not see it as a disorder at all. 534 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Hyperfocus is one of many traits 535 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,920 that do not form part of the diagnosis 536 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,480 but that people with ADHD will often find they have in common. 537 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:54,600 For lots of those symptoms, 538 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,280 it can be really comforting knowing there are other people 539 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:00,720 who feel like you or experience things the way you do. 540 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,560 Step three, get it all into the washing machine. 541 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,360 And there's a whole ADHD community out there. 542 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,680 I've got absolutely no idea 543 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,120 why or how it works, 544 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,960 but it does work. 545 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,640 ADHD seems to be the topic on everyone's lips. 546 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,240 But what are the experts looking for in a diagnosis 547 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,760 and how do you know you need one? 548 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,880 My understanding of myself got better. 549 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,160 My ability to cope got better. 550 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,240 I think I can credit a lot of my ideas 551 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,320 and, like, endless energy and passion to it. 552 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,200 With the rise of the internet - 553 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,160 and our old friend, social media - 554 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,800 there's been a significant shift in how the condition 555 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,600 is perceived and discussed. 556 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,680 It's nice to, like, have a community of people 557 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,600 who feel the same as I do, OK? 558 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,880 Because I felt so alone for a long time. 559 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,880 From Knights of the Realm who are asking 560 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,880 different and personal philosophical questions about the subject... 561 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,880 Consider not what's odd about ADHD, 562 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,160 but see if you can define what normality is. 563 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400 ..to high profile ADHDers 564 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720 who are shocked by the length of the waiting list. 565 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560 All this awareness is now causing a massive problem, 566 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,320 because everybody thinks they have ADHD 567 00:28:18,360 --> 00:28:21,400 and the NHS waiting list is something in... 568 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,960 Is it a year or something? Eight years now. 569 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,280 Eight years?! Yeah. 570 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,000 We've already looked at the first criteria you'd be assessed on, 571 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,200 which is inattentiveness, 572 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,200 and its stablemate, hyperfocus. 573 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,880 The next set of probing questions would look for examples 574 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,840 of hyperactivity and impulsiveness. 575 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,320 This can cause someone to fidget, 576 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,880 excessively talk and acting without thinking. 577 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:51,240 In the brain, two neurotransmitters, dopamine and norepinephrine - 578 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,200 crucial for the body's response to stress and danger - 579 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,400 send signals to different regions, 580 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,040 affecting our behaviour and emotions. 581 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,760 In an ADHD brain, 582 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,240 they are distributed at much lower levels, 583 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,880 impairing someone's attention and impulse control. 584 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,640 I'm very impulsive. 585 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,560 And I think impulsivity is a great strength 586 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,120 once you understand it. 587 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,880 It's the reason so many people with ADHD 588 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,880 become world-class at whatever it is that we impulsively started. 589 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,960 So what might this part of the in-person assessment look like? 590 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,320 Here's Clare, now two hours into her session. 591 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,320 How you would describe yourself in terms of, like, hyperactivity? 592 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,040 I would say I'm energetic. 593 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,040 Sometimes you can have somebody who is very hyperactive, 594 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,920 and you can see that in the room. 595 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,600 However, for some people, 596 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,440 hyperactivity can be very internalised. 597 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,360 Any, like, habits or repetitive kind of fidgeting? 598 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 I think I just do fidget. 599 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,120 It's about getting to the bottom, 600 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,320 the root cause, of why they're more vulnerable 601 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440 to these things happening in their lives. 602 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,600 What do you do to relax? 603 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,320 I don't, I suppose. 604 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,200 I think I just like to be... Yeah. ..active. 605 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,160 We will ask... So questions about substance misuse, 606 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:12,760 risky sexual behaviours. 607 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,880 There can be the extremes of impulsivity 608 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,000 and risk-taking type behaviour. 609 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Is that something that you relate to? 610 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,880 They are all really relevant to the assessment process. 611 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:28,120 Hyperactivity, impulsivity and trying to control behaviour 612 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,320 is familiar ground for many with ADHD. 613 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,680 Here, Jordan Stephens from Rizzle Kicks 614 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,920 opens up about how it affected him. 615 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,960 For me, a big part of my journey was 616 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,080 I was doing a lot of drugs to combat the incessant, like, 617 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,440 chatter in my head. 618 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,280 So I was creating albums, like, high or drunk 619 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,560 to kind of get myself out of the way. 620 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,120 And Matt Willis has also been really honest about how it manifested 621 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,480 in his younger years. 622 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Kind of young, kind of smoking weed and kind of drinking and stuff. 623 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,880 Sure. I was always the one who was kind of... 624 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,120 Going that extra mile. ..going that extra mile, you know... 625 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,880 Destructive. Just destructive, just wanting to kind of 626 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:05,320 change the way I felt. 627 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,960 I've come to meet some people who have used boxing as 628 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,560 a way to manage their ADHD symptoms and calm their brains. 629 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,520 Nice and straight. Double jab... 630 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,360 I was always in trouble at school. 631 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,440 I wasn't able to sit through all my lessons, 632 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,200 so I'd, you know, I'd be up and down everywhere. 633 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,000 I always thought I was just a naughty kid, 634 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,440 but I didn't want to be like that - I just was. 635 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:37,960 Jab with the right hand. 636 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,760 I just always thought I was just gonna be a naughty kid in school, 637 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,520 didn't really see a pathway for me. 638 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:46,760 And again. 639 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,480 So how do you find boxing has helped you? 640 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,240 Oh, it's been life-changing. 641 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,880 Boxing is the one thing that I can actually come in 642 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,640 and focus on. 643 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040 When I'm in a session, everything else just switches off, 644 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,080 which is really nice cos I don't get that chance 645 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,600 with anything else in my life 646 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,720 because my brain is just always at a 101. 647 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,680 But when I'm here and, you know, I put my gloves on, 648 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,880 that's it - the world just turns off. 649 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,600 Before, I'd rise to anything, 650 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,520 like, you could call me an idiot and I'd rise to it. 651 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,360 So small things would really affect you? 652 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,040 Yeah, yeah, and then I started boxing and most of my anger, 653 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,440 I was getting that out in the gym hitting in the bags. 654 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,960 Boxing has been my lifeline. You know, it... 655 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,160 I would go so far as to say it's saved my life. 656 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:33,680 Right hand roll, right hand. 657 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,120 Right hand roll, right hand. And again. 658 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,040 You will find that any physical exercise is regularly recommended 659 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,880 for someone who has ADHD or symptoms of. 660 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,120 Beautiful. 661 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,320 And that doesn't have to mean boxing. 662 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,120 Even the smallest of activities can help people focus energy 663 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,560 or manage hyperactivity. 664 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:52,640 Good. Let's go. 665 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,360 Ooh, look at that. 666 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,760 It's like a... Oh, God, I love it! 667 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,040 It's a fidget toy. 668 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,880 I guess I just find it easier to think when I'm also, like, 669 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,800 occupied by something else. 670 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,880 And you don't need to have a diagnosis to find them useful 671 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,000 or soothing. 672 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,600 If I don't have something like this in my hand I'm always, like, sort of 673 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,240 having the stream of thought at the same time as trying to talk of, 674 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:17,960 like, "OK, how should I be sitting?" 675 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,560 Like, "Should I'd be sat still?" 676 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,880 The third and final part of an ADHD diagnostic assessment 677 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000 delves into impairment. 678 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,520 Compared to someone who is neurotypical, 679 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,000 an ADHDer will struggle in areas like the home, education, 680 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,840 work and social interactions. 681 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,720 So you'd need to show evidence of how symptoms consistently 682 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,240 interfere in daily life. 683 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,320 The things are most people find hard 684 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,480 seem to, like, click in my brain quite easily, 685 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,880 whereas the things that most people seem to find easy 686 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,120 of, like, getting in the shower, like, staying organised, 687 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,640 cooking, cleaning, going to the gym, doing all of those things, 688 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,520 they're the things that feel difficult for me cos they're not 689 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,440 as, like, I guess exciting for my brain in the same way. 690 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,680 So when something's not something that is challenging 691 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:13,800 or exciting, it's, like, a real slog to try 692 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,160 and motivate myself to actually do it. 693 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:24,160 So the final part of the assessment is looking at how all of 694 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,120 the symptoms and behaviours that you've kind of identified 695 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:31,400 and we've talked about, how they impact your life. 696 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,520 So I do turn it back to that person and say, 697 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,320 "Where do you feel that all of these symptoms 698 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,120 "that we've identified associated with ADHD, 699 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,040 "where are they holding you back in life, 700 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,200 "where are they causing the biggest problems?" 701 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,600 What about relationships and, you know, 702 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,080 friendships, relationships with family as well, 703 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,640 is there any impairment? 704 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,600 Not particularly. 705 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:59,320 In somebody's personal life it might be that they have got themselves 706 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,080 into debt, or they... 707 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,880 Constant credit cards or, you know, 708 00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,600 conflict with their partners over money. 709 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,680 What about any kind of overcompensating behaviours 710 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:19,200 that you recognise in yourself that almost like tips things too far 711 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:20,720 the other way round? 712 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,040 Some things. Yeah. 713 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,720 It can really be, you know, 714 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:29,200 what people describe as a roller-coaster of emotions. 715 00:35:29,240 --> 00:35:32,040 Next, after a four-hour deep dive, 716 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,680 Clare ends her quest for a diagnosis. 717 00:35:34,720 --> 00:35:36,280 Would you agree with that? 718 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,520 I would. I think that's probably a very fair reflection, actually. 719 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,280 And I learn what support you can access whether you've had 720 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,800 a diagnosis or not. 721 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,840 Dopamine, dopamine, dopamine. 722 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,960 Dr Clare has always suspected that her and her late husband, 723 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,520 Michael, had ADHD. 724 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,600 And now, having gone through the full diagnostic process, time to find out. 725 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,840 Clare's scored highly for inattentiveness 726 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:09,600 and hyperactivity, 727 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,320 and has just completed the final stage of 728 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,480 a gruelling four-hour assessment, impairment, 729 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,960 a crucial criteria which everyone needs for an ADHD diagnosis. 730 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:26,880 When we looking at the diagnostic criteria for ADHD, 731 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,080 we really focus on level of impairment. 732 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,000 And you even recognise yourself that there isn't really any impairment 733 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:36,760 in your adult life. 734 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,040 Without that impairment, we wouldn't diagnose ADHD. 735 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,720 Would you agree with that? 736 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,120 I would. I think that's probably a very fair reflection, actually. 737 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,880 It's interesting, hearing all these... 738 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,560 ..what you would call impairments, 739 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,840 but I don't feel particularly impaired by them. 740 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040 I know it's a weird thing to say. Yeah. 741 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,280 You know it's possible for anybody to have sort of traits of ADHD, 742 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,880 but actually it not warrant or justify a diagnosis 743 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,440 and need treatment because there isn't impairment there. 744 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,280 It was a long process, I have to say. 745 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,280 A really interesting and intricate process. 746 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,920 It turns out that I actually don't fit the criteria, 747 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:30,080 but I've found it really interesting, really interesting. 748 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,840 So Dr Clare has her answer. 749 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,920 But what about those who don't yet? 750 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,160 If, like Clare, you don't have a diagnosis, 751 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,280 you can still access lots of help and support from the ADHD Community. 752 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,840 Rox, who has ADHD, and her husband Rich, 753 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,400 who doesn't, offer up an unfiltered view 754 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,640 of what it's like to live with ADHD. 755 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,400 You think you're doing it on the chorus, 756 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,760 but you're actually not - you've gotta do it... 757 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,040 The pair have created an app that harnesses 758 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,880 the power of something called "body doubling". 759 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,560 So body doubling is a really strange phenomena in the ADHD world, 760 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,680 that essentially means we - people with ADHD - 761 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,560 can get more stuff done if we have company. 762 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,200 To most people, making the bed, you just make the bed. 763 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,400 To a lot of ADHDers, it doesn't work like that. 764 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,880 It's, "Where do I start? Do I take the duvet off? 765 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,000 "Do I take the pillows off? Do I have to change the sheets? 766 00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,680 "Do I tidy the bedside tables as part of this?" 767 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:33,280 Your brain just spills out into this... 768 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,560 what should be one task, makes it 20. 769 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,400 "It's overwhelming. I won't do it." 770 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,720 Step one here is going to be get the laundry that you want to wash. 771 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,800 Go and grab that, and I'll meet you back here for step two. 772 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,840 We have these videos broken down - they're like instructional videos 773 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,040 for basic tasks, which nobody would normally give 774 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,360 because they're basic. 775 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:56,160 However, it brings some logic into a very chaotic brain, 776 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,160 and just helps you get stuff done. 777 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,480 Step three, get it all into the washing machine. 778 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,400 I initially thought it was a terrible idea. 779 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,560 I was like "What... What are you talking about? 780 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,760 "You wanna build an app about making the bed and doing the w...?" 781 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Like, I couldn't see it. But you were like, "This is it." 782 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,440 Step five, pat yourself on the back because you've climbed 783 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,040 Mount Everest, also known as Starting Laundry Phase 1. 784 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,600 I think unless you have ADHD you wouldn't see the need for it, 785 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,120 you wouldn't understand it. 786 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,120 Hello, everyone. You have got me today. 787 00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:31,280 Today they're doing a live stream to some of their 300,000 followers. 788 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,840 So hopefully that is OK. 789 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160 I can see lots of people on. 790 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,000 You'll be able to see there is a blue-haired emo walking around 791 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,760 behind me doing the kitchen as we speak. 792 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,320 Say hello. Hello. 793 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,840 One of the main things why the app works is shame reduction. 794 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,160 So shame can make you freeze, can make you feel like 795 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,640 you can't do something. 796 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,720 When you meet that with other people who feel that they can't, 797 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,880 and you have someone being really kind telling you you can, 798 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:02,800 it's actually amazing what people can do. 799 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,640 Joanna, it looks like she's washing up. 800 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,440 Helen, it looks like she has just done the washing. 801 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,400 We've got Clare - I think that's a new face. 802 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,280 I think Clare might be... Yes, that's me, Claire. 803 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,200 ..unloading the dishwasher. Hello. Hi, Clare. 804 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:16,640 I'm doing the dishwashing. 805 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,840 Yeah, she's definitely doing something in the kitchen, 806 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,960 so good luck. 807 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Despite not having a diagnosis, 808 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,880 Clare, like many others, is finding support from the ADHD gang. 809 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,440 I'm packing the dishwasher. 810 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,720 This is a new experience, doing the dishwashing. 811 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,600 So it's quite nice. 812 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,920 It's the kind of sense that you're all doing it together. 813 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,760 We don't get enough community stuff somehow. 814 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,440 So it's quite engaging, 815 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,680 and if it's helping people get motivated that's fantastic. 816 00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,680 As well as tapping into those with lived experience of ADHD, 817 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:54,200 we can also turn to experts. 818 00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:58,680 Parul Singh advises companies how to be more neurodiverse-friendly 819 00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:01,800 and is going to show me things that workplaces could consider 820 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,240 if they were to be more accommodating. 821 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,520 Hi, Parul. Nice to meet you. Hi, Karan. Nice to meet you. 822 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:11,560 So I've heard this is a neurodiverse-friendly work space. 823 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,200 On first instances, it looks no different than another 824 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:17,520 really nice workplace. 825 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,840 So when you walk into any other office, 826 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,880 what's the first thing that you usually see? 827 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,960 A reception desk. 828 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,080 Absolutely. Yeah. 829 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,800 And if we look here, it kind of looks like a reception desk. 830 00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,520 Sort of, yeah. But nobody is actually usually sat here. 831 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640 This was quite intentional because for a lot of 832 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,840 the time, in offices, you walk in, 833 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,640 there might be more than one receptionist. Yeah. 834 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,680 You don't know where to look. It can feel a bit, like, 835 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,120 anxiety-inducing. Sort of overwhelming, the choice. 836 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,040 Yeah, absolutely. And people with ADHD might need more flexible 837 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,240 hours than other people. Yeah. 838 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,640 So they might feel conscious that "Oh, I'm going for, like, 839 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,120 "a longer lunch. Is someone going to notice it?", or, like, 840 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,440 "I'm leaving early", or something. 841 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,600 So in this bit here we've got these little cubicles. 842 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,840 If I open it, this probably looks like a soundproof booth 843 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,520 where you would usually do meetings or you would do calls. 844 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,280 So this isn't actually for calls and meetings. 845 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,000 When somebody with ADHD is completely hyperfocused 846 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,960 on their work, which is a great thing to be able to get into, 847 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,840 actually... Yeah. ..because they might be able to do 848 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,480 what somebody else might need four hours... Yeah, I can't do that. 849 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,680 ..in literally, like, maybe like an hour or two. 850 00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:26,080 It happens to me very often and a lot of my friends with ADHD. 851 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,560 That hyperfocus is like golden time. 852 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,680 So this is a space which actually somebody can truly get 853 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:33,520 into that hyperfocus zone. Yeah. 854 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,600 Obviously, we have a spinny chair as well, which is great 855 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:36,960 to sort of fidget on. 856 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:40,320 It nurtures those traits which can be leveraged into 857 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,240 something positive. Yeah, absolutely. 858 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,120 How important is it to have workplaces like this 859 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:53,880 that can be more inclusive? 860 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,320 This is not about trying to hire more neurodivergent people. 861 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,440 They are in your workplaces already. Yeah. 862 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,480 So it's in your best interest when you have maybe spent money hiring 863 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,800 that person, onboarding them, training them, 864 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,800 investing in them, to do whatever you can, 865 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,360 whether it's the work environment or the support systems that 866 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000 you actually have in place for neurodivergent people 867 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:15,520 and people with ADHD to actually help them thrive. 868 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,160 And for the ADHD brain looking for that dopamine hit, 869 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,560 there's a special space in Parul's ideal work world. 870 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,680 Wow. So this is the karaoke room, 871 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:29,800 and as you can see it's just beautifully furnished. 872 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,640 You walk into this room and you're like, 873 00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,880 "Dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine." 874 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,840 And there's so many different textures, shapes, colours. 875 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,920 It's, you know, a bit of an eclectic mix of things in here. 876 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:42,320 Actually just coming in here, 877 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,880 it's such a different vibe to out there. 878 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,320 It's all about balance, really, 879 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,600 which sometimes can be a bit hard for us to get. 880 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,560 So, it's like, take a break in here, take... 881 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,840 You know, take your lunch, have a little bit of fun, 882 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,560 get back into the zone, get the work done. 883 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:07,480 There is a wide of support people can access without a diagnosis. 884 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,680 But for those that do get one, it can be incredibly empowering. 885 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,280 After I got diagnosed, 886 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,840 I felt like a weight had been lifted, 887 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,160 like people would actually know now. 888 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,120 I think that was probably the most game-changing thing about 889 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,600 getting a diagnosis. Like, I finally felt like 890 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:27,280 I was in control of my life rather than life just happening to me. 891 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,000 So, there was, like, this big wave of happiness and 892 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,280 sort of feeling validated and feeling understood 893 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,720 and starting to be able to forgive myself for all of 894 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,640 the stuff that had gone not so well. 895 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,520 Then I think there's also, like, waves of grief that come in as well, 896 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,160 of like, "How could life have been different if someone had 897 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:46,800 "figured this out sooner?" 898 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,800 I would put my arms around the younger version of me, 899 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:54,640 the little boy that was so scared of being different 900 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,920 and so fearful of letting someone down 901 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,720 or encountering a rejection, 902 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,840 and saying that, "The same things that are... 903 00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,840 "The same things that are causing this fear of rejection 904 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,960 "and anxiety of being different are the same things that, 905 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,360 "when you're older, are going to be your biggest assets." 906 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,320 One more. 907 00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,160 I hope we've given you some insight into 908 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,320 the official symptoms of ADHD. 909 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,760 And that hearing from others has offered you some tips 910 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,880 and coping strategies, 911 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,840 and given you an understanding of what an assessment entails. 912 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,840 I believe it's on all of us to be more understanding 913 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,480 about what ADHD is. 914 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,320 And for those with the condition, 915 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960 we need to recognise their unique strengths, 916 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,800 abilities, and embrace the different ways they think. 917 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,320 And if you think this sounds like you, we embrace you too. 918 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,920 Subtitles by Red Bee Media 76366

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