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Previously on Pig Advances.
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I've retrieved what appears to be a
right middle or ring finger severed at
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second joint.
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Maybe we should turn you loose and let
the mob outside deal with you. You can't
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do this. We can do whatever we want.
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We're the cops.
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The discovery of the body would be
fruits of a poisonous
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tree. I may have no choice.
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but to dismiss the charges.
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When I come back, the three of you are
going to tell me the brilliant plan
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you've devised to keep that bastard in
jail. You've got to figure it out!
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Mr. Latham, you are going to trial.
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If the Supreme Court has a problem with
that, they can come and get me.
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We've got two choices.
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The right to the appellate court, try to
overturn Judge Bone, get your statement
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and the evidence suppressed, Or try this
case right now, which I think we should
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do. Why?
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Because our chances of a conviction are
better the sooner we go.
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We've got all our evidence except for
the weapon, and if we haven't found that
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by now... What about DNA?
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Well, all the blood we found was hers.
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Hair and fiber go to her, him, and in
the car, her family.
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It's not airtight.
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Exactly. It's circumstantial.
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That's why I'd like to try it while it's
still fresh in the jury's head. Time
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can only help the defense.
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Then why does Wombo want to go now?
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Because I could take advantage of the
short investigation.
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I can argue that they didn't take the
time to look for anybody else.
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It'll play into reasonable doubt.
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Plus, this trial is a free shot for us.
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See, if they lose, they can still get it
overturned on constitutional grounds.
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If they win, the state can't appeal an
acquittal. The man walks.
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It's a free bite for him. Wambaugh knows
what he's doing.
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Do we?
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Appellate courts are less likely to
overturn a trial than they are a
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If we can get a conviction now, we make
his chance on appeal much tougher.
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I say we go.
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I say we go.
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Do I have a chance?
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Yes.
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No. Our case is circumstantial, but it's
very strong.
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He can't win.
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I cannot lose this guy.
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We won't.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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You like murder trials, Kimberly?
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This is going to be a good one.
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Sheriff Department is a joke.
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It frustrates me.
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If they knew how to collect evidence,
they'd have caught the real killer. Mr.
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Wambaugh likes to try these cases in the
media where he's free to make up the
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fact. He says this because I'm Jewish.
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He comes in here today with nothing but
public pressure to get a conviction.
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Yeah, well, you'll see what we've got.
I'm getting goosebumps.
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I'd appreciate it if you didn't attack
my father in the press.
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Kimberly, the media has taken away the
presumption of innocence.
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I have to use the spotlight to get it
back.
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You ready?
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I think so.
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Remember, they'll probably introduce the
pictures early. Look horrified to see
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them. The jury has to see that they
shock you like anybody else.
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Now, it's not imperative that you look,
but I want you in the room.
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I want the jury to be reminded of your
tragedy.
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Do we have to be here for the whole
trial?
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I prefer it.
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Emotion cuts in our favor.
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I've got your parents, a sister, your
grandmother, and an uncle you've never
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met.
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My family is coming? And for the purpose
of this trial, you're close -knit.
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The jury cannot see it otherwise.
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Well, how'd you get them to show up?
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You're their only son.
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Will they testify?
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Not a chance.
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If he puts up any character witness,
then we are free to impeach with our
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witnesses, and I've got about 20.
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I even have a teenage girl that was
threatened by him at knife point two
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ago. What?
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But I can't use it.
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The law says we can't talk about
previous bad acts to convince the jury
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this one.
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Wait a second. Now, this guy attacked
another girl with a knife, and we can't
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tell the jury about it? That's right.
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But if they try to argue that he's a
good guy... We can roll out our
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witnesses, this girl included.
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See, Wanbao knows that.
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He won't put this guy's parents up or
anybody to even hint about his
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Then what's our case?
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The state has the burden to make the
case.
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I just have to shoot holes in it, and I
will.
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The worst thing is those pictures.
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They're some of the most graphic images
I've ever seen.
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I apologize for having to show them to
you.
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They'll be difficult to look at, but you
must look at them.
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The testimonial evidence will show that
Susan Ingrams was stabbed 11 times, but
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you cannot know the violent savagery
unless you look.
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The prosecution will show beyond all
reasonable doubt that the person
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responsible for this repulsive carnage
is Brian Latham, the man sitting right
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over there.
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That concludes my opening statement.
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I would ask first...
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When you go home tonight, let us all say
a prayer for Susan
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Ingram's and her family.
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Nobody here can feel their pain.
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This judicial proceeding can never make
them whole.
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The prosecution has laid a setting of a
horrible tragedy.
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Savagery.
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The defense does not dispute this, but
we do take issue with their conclusion
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to who is responsible.
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It wasn't Brian Latham.
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When the prosecution searched for a
witness, they drew a blank.
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They looked for a motive.
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Blank.
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They search for a weapon?
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Nothing.
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They comb my client's person and
property for bloodstains and forensic
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Any evidence at all that would connect
Brian Latham to violence?
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Nothing.
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As to their efforts to find the person
who really was responsible for this
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murder...
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Mr.
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Littleton has shown you the victim.
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I've shown you their case.
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Time of death, cause of death, absence
of other hair or fibers on the body, In
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the car or at the scene?
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Check. And Carter, make sure your voice
works, okay? We're not going to get a
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conviction if you sound like a damn
chipmunk again.
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Why are you so nervous?
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Because Wambaugh opened great, that's
why.
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Then you go up.
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You're going to cover all the prints,
the tire tracks, the footprints, and
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corroborate the store owner's statement.
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Then I put you up, Kenny. You are
critical.
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Me, me, me.
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Carter.
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His pointing you to where the body was
is the linchpin.
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His demeanor, his look of contrition,
guilt, his sense of wanting redemption
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a crime he knew he committed, his
feeling of remorse for taking a human
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These are the things you saw in that
cell, and these are the things you must
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make that jury see.
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I've been over it.
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Okay.
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There's one other thing we've got to
talk about.
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Now,
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I don't mean to be critical, but this is
a reality that we're dealing with.
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The Sheriff's Department is perceived to
be terrible and largely that perception
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is accurate.
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Your investigational habits are shoddy.
There is a shocking lack of professional
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credibility in the personnel.
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Kenny, your intelligence doesn't
translate.
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Juries tend to think of you as simple.
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Officer Stewart, you were thought of as
intelligent and thorough, but also
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erratic.
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And Carter, where do I begin with you?
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What's your point?
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My point is, every case I prosecute is
hampered by the credibility of this
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branch.
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Now, there are some pluses.
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The people know and trust you.
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And one of the reasons I didn't try to
kick venue is because in another town,
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potential jurors might not extend the
same personal trust that comes from
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knowing you. They'd only focus on the
professional incompetence. We're not
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incompetent. Look, I don't mean to
attack you, but I have to make you aware
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this reality so that you're prepared to
beat it.
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When you get up on that stand, I want to
see authority.
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Carter, you are a great medical
examiner. Make that jury know that.
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Kenny, you're clear -headed. Be precise
and decisive when you're in that witness
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chair.
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A district attorney can only play his
hand, and you people are my hand.
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Now, I want that jury to know this son
of a bitch is guilty because you know
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You three know it.
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So, if you think he did it, then why are
you helping him?
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You have to understand, Zach, even
guilty defendants are entitled to a
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and a fair trial.
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Why?
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Well, you see, um, the state has to
prove guilt before they can lock
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up.
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The defense attorneys have to make sure
that the burden of proof is met in every
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case.
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It's all about protecting our system of
justice.
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So when defense attorneys represent
guilty people, they're nevertheless
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protecting the system.
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And by doing that, the innocent are
served.
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Do you understand?
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No.
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You will when you're old enough.
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He killed somebody, and you're helping
him.
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How old do I have to get?
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Wambaugh is using you.
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The jury knows the sheriff's daughter is
sitting at the defense table.
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They probably know you were friends with
Susan Ingrams.
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You're being used.
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Time of death can't be fixed positive
since the decomposition process is
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affected by the body being in water, the
temperature of which was 54 degrees
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Fahrenheit. But through forensics,
entomology, rigor mortis, and post
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changes, I can fix death between 1 and 4
a .m. Now, I should like to explain...
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Objection!
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Too boring.
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We'll agree that she died between 1 and
4 a .m. So stipulated.
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Were you able to determine the cause of
death, Dr. Pike?
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Yes, I was.
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Excuse me.
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It was death by stabbing. The victim
received multiple wounds from a seven
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serrated blade. The fatal blow being a
stab wound to the heart itself.
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I'd like to show you a picture of the
victim... I will stipulate that the girl
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was killed with a big knife.
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I would like to be able to offer my
evidence... You just want to show the
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pictures off to shock the jury.
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I agree.
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Move on, Mr. Littleton.
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What about the severing of the finger,
Dr. Pike?
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Oh, yes.
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This appeared to be a premortem
incision.
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Judging from the cuts on the dorsal side
of the arms and the palms, it appeared
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the victim tried to defend herself
inside the car. It was during the
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that I think the middle left finger was
in fact severed.
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And is there anything else that these
wounds told you, Dr. Pike, aside from
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cause of death?
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Yes, that this was an extremely primal
and brutal killing.
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This woman was butchered.
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It was the most gruesome autopsy ever in
my professional experience.
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Thank you, Dr. Pike.
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Nothing further.
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Dr. Pike, do any of your medical
findings connect this crime to
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Brian Latham?
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My medical findings?
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No.
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Thank you.
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That's the man, all right. He bought the
beer and then he got right into her
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car. And what time was that, sir?
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Just after 11.
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And when I closed up at 12 .30, his
truck was still parked in my lot.
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And are you sure it was this man and the
victim Susan Ingrams?
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Positive.
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You said to the police my client looked
normal, even friendly.
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Yes, I did.
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And after observing my client's
behavior... You had no reason to think
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Susan Agrams was in danger, did you?
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Well, no.
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In fact, you never called the police.
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Nothing seemed wrong. Is that correct?
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Yes, I guess that's so. Thank you, sir.
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Nothing further?
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You may step down.
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The people call it laying the fever.
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Objection!
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Sidebar.
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We've been through this.
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She's excluded.
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Just open the door on character
testimony, Your Honor. What?
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He got Mr. Emanuel to testify that the
defendant was normal and friendly. He
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character on issue. He cross -examined
on what Mr. Emanuel saw.
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The witness is excluded. It also goes to
pattern, Your Honor. This man attacked
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this girl at knife point. The witness is
excluded.
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Damn it, Your Honor.
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I don't think you meant to do that.
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I'm trying to put on a case here.
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Fine. Do it. But you can't put witnesses
up to establish that the defendant is a
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bad person.
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Now, get back.
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Does it bother you?
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We're trying to free a man who committed
murder.
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He never told me he's guilty.
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You never asked him.
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I know this may be difficult to
understand, but it would have been wrong
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to ask.
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I did what a good defense attorney is
supposed to do.
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And that's what's hard to understand,
that it's proper procedure for lawyers
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navigate around the truth.
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The system of justice, Kimberly, doesn't
always mean that the player should act
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justly. Take the Lefevre girl.
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When John Littleton called her as a
witness, he knew Judge Bone would deny
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But by calling her, the jury got to see
that there was somebody else who had
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something to say for the prosecution.
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They get the impression there's more to
tell than they're being told.
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It's cheating.
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Not much, just a little sleight of hand.
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We all do it because we know the other
guys are going to do it, and we don't
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want them to have the edge.
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Judge Bone was right. It's all about
winning and losing.
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Well, the truth is supposed to be a
product of the adversary process.
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So, yes, that means both sides try to
win at all costs.
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Even when it means we're trying to free
a guilty killer.
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I try not to ask myself such tricky
questions.
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All hair and fibers found in the car
belonged either to the victim, the
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family members who also drove the car,
or the defendant.
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The defendant?
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Yes. Several strands of hair found on
the victim or in her car matched the
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samples taken from Brian Latham.
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We also found slight skin fragments
under her fingernails that were an
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genetic match with the defendant.
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You have an established foundation for
this witness to give DNA evidence.
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In the spirit of cooperation, we'll
stipulate that the hair, skin, and
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fibers probably came from my client.
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Well, this all happened during a brief
wrestling match where my client
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unsuccessfully tried for sex.
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Move to strike.
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Sustained. The jury will disregard
defense counsel's last statement.
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Move on.
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What other evidence did you find,
deputy?
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The only tire tracks leading to the pond
were those of the victim's car, meaning
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whoever committed the murder probably
drove in the victim's car to the swamp,
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dumped the body, then drove the car back
to where it was discovered the
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following morning on Prospect Road.
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And did you find any footprints at the
pond site?
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We did.
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And they matched the shoes being worn by
the defendant at the time we arrested
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him. And were there any other prints to
suggest that someone else had been
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around? No, there were not.
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And were there any hairs or fibers found
on the person of the victim that did
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not come from either the victim or the
defendant?
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No, there were not.
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Thank you, Deputy.
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I have nothing further.
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When you arrested my client, you checked
his person, his truck, and motel room
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for physical evidence, didn't you?
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Yes. Did you find any?
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No.
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Nothing? Not even a spattering of blood?
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Not anything?
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No. You never found a murder weapon?
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No, we did not.
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Eyewitnesses? No.
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What a thing.
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Before Susan Ingrins left the house on
the night of question, do you know what
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happened?
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She was involved in an argument with her
parents. An angry argument, according
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to the statement that they made to the
police.
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And you say you found their hair and
fibers in her car.
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Maybe they found her and killed her.
Objection. Counsel.
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It's just a theory, I know.
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Did you explore this possibility, Deputy
Stewart?
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No, we did not.
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Why not?
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There was no evidence indicating any
involvement by the parents.
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You didn't even consider that it could
be anybody else, did you, Deputy?
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All the evidence pointed to him. All the
evidence you bothered to collect.
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Under oath, Deputy Stewart, there's been
a lot of public pressure for you to
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solve this crime, hasn't there?
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Public hysteria does not compromise our
investigation.
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I again remind you that you are under
oath.
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When you interrogated Brian Latham, did
you say to him, you won't get a fair
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trial. Somebody's going to pay for what
happened to this girl.
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If you're the only suspect we offer up,
then it'll be you, whether you're
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innocent or not.
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Did you say that, Deputy?
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That was in the context of an
interrogation. He told you he was
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And you responded, it doesn't matter.
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Somebody has to be blamed. And then you
said, we're the cops.
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We can do anything we want.
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We were doing a good cop, bad cop thing.
You said it, didn't you?
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Yes.
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But you don't understand.
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Thank you.
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But I think I do.
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I can't take this. I just cannot take
this anymore.
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First, you violate the Constitution.
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Now, the case should have been kicked on
that screw -up. And now this?
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I cannot take... You tell the defendant
that he will not get a fair trial. It
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doesn't matter if he's innocent or not.
The jury's going to convict him anyway?
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It was a tactic.
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A tactic?
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It was a tact... Oh, it was a tactic.
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We dispense... with the Constitution as
a tactic. We threaten unfair trials as a
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tactic. These are the tactics of the
Rome, Wisconsin Sheriff's Department. I
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have had it. John. No, a killer's going
to walk, Sheriff.
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Don't defend them.
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Take responsibility.
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Their behavior is a reflection on you,
and right now your whole damn
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department's a joke.
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I'm a joke.
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We are the team responsible for letting
a murderer walk.
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Turn on the newscast tomorrow night and
just listen to what all the commentators
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are saying about all of us. And if that
doesn't sink in, try.
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Just try making eye contact with Susan
Ingram's parents.
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Their daughter was chopped into pieces,
and the man who's responsible is going
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to go free because of our incompetence.
This isn't over yet.
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There's still Kenny's testimony.
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Imagine the confidence I get from that.
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Nothing is helped by this.
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Deputy Locos, tomorrow.
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Tomorrow, I put the whole prosecution in
your hands.
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Unexpected surprises are the best.
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Not to me.
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Get out.
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You're a character.
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I'm also the judge in the case you're
trying.
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Don't you know what ex parte is? Of
course I do. It's Latin.
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But when I saw you eating, I thought you
might want company.
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Social. Wrong again.
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Get out.
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You know, Henry, not to discuss the
facts, because I know I cannot do that,
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what a cross I had today.
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With Max on the stand, any lawyer could
only hope to have one cross like that in
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a career. I could actually get this guy
off.
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You must be very proud.
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Back when I started practice, I would
actually get aroused by success in the
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courtroom.
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Sexually stimulated.
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Not a lot, but a little.
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I'm so happy you're sharing this. This
all happened when I was in my 20s.
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I won a lot of cases since then. It's
become routine.
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But today, when I crossed Max, and when
she admitted to those things that she
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said in the interrogation, What a rush.
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I felt a little tingle.
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Not much, just a little.
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I had a moment, Henry.
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You must admit that the practice of law
can be a very gratifying thing.
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I need a housekeeper.
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Boy's gone?
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Yeah, they left early. They wanted to
walk.
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Shouldn't you be going to school?
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I'm in court. The teachers know.
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Shouldn't miss a whole week.
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What's the problem, Daddy?
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You don't want me sitting at Wambaugh's
table.
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I get it. But don't come at me sideways
with the school thing.
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Don't. Talk to me with that tone.
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My tone is honest. All right.
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You want me out of that courtroom so the
jury might think that I abandoned the
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defense. So how about this, Daddy? How
about I go to court, announce Brian
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Latham is guilty, and then I'll go to
school?
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I told you to drop that tone. What about
me? I haven't even looked at you in my
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class. Talk to you. I'm an adult now.
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00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,720
You're a little sensitive because you
are ashamed of what you are doing.
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You should be ashamed of trying to take
advantage of... I am ashamed. I'm
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ashamed of my daughter. You go to hell!
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I knew he believed in God.
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And I asked him, as a believer in God,
as a believer that every Christian
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deserves a proper burial, I asked him to
tell me where that body lay.
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And his response?
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At first, he just looked down.
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So I asked him to think about her
parents.
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I asked him to make things right.
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I asked him again, make things right.
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That's when he told me.
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Told you where to look.
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Exactly.
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We then proceeded to the destination and
retrieved the corpse.
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And did Brian Latham admit to killing
Susan Ingram? He didn't say it in words,
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but he made it clear.
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He put that girl in the swamp.
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Thank you, Deputy.
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I have nothing further.
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Are you a mind reader, Kenny?
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No, sir, I'm not.
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Yet you say that my client made
something clear without words.
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What'd you do, play charades?
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All I can say, counsel, is the
communication isn't limited to words.
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Perhaps... May I finish my response,
please? No.
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Yes.
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Go ahead.
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He was careful not to say it exactly.
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But I was in that room.
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I to I, we looked at each other.
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Catholic to Catholic.
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We knew we had to face the truth.
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And he told me where the body was.
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He was admitting to me that he killed
her.
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Did he say it with words?
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No. Did he say it?
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Yes, he did.
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So, we have to assume the body language
skills of Kenny Lockers. I was the only
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person in the room with him. You can't
contradict me because you weren't there.
468
00:29:00,730 --> 00:29:05,390
And I'm telling you and everybody in
this room, that man killed Susan
469
00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:07,070
Objection. Sustained.
470
00:29:07,570 --> 00:29:08,770
That remark is stricken.
471
00:29:09,030 --> 00:29:10,610
Any more questions, Mr. Wambaugh?
472
00:29:10,970 --> 00:29:11,970
No, Your Honor.
473
00:29:12,510 --> 00:29:13,510
Nothing further.
474
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,940
The witness may step down.
475
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,160
We just got hurt.
476
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:29,800
Penny was good.
477
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,400
So what happens now? I think we got to
testify.
478
00:29:33,780 --> 00:29:38,740
Now, you listen to me very carefully,
Mr. Latham. Your life depends on it.
479
00:29:39,420 --> 00:29:40,420
Follow this.
480
00:29:40,660 --> 00:29:43,280
If you don't testify, we will lose.
481
00:29:43,790 --> 00:29:44,790
Now, that's simple.
482
00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:46,430
Here's where it's complicated.
483
00:29:46,810 --> 00:29:50,890
As your lawyer, I have an obligation to
say that you must tell the truth.
484
00:29:51,450 --> 00:29:57,350
If I know you're going to lie, I have a
duty to either not put you up there or
485
00:29:57,350 --> 00:30:01,950
to let you testify in the narrative
only, in which case the jury will figure
486
00:30:01,950 --> 00:30:02,829
things out.
487
00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:06,790
The best thing would be, of course, for
me to believe that you didn't kill Susan
488
00:30:06,790 --> 00:30:10,450
Agrams. Then I would have no ethical
problem putting you on the stand.
489
00:30:10,810 --> 00:30:11,810
You with me?
490
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:13,070
I think so.
491
00:30:14,410 --> 00:30:17,010
So I'm now going to ask you for the
first time.
492
00:30:17,610 --> 00:30:19,590
Did you kill Susan Ingrams?
493
00:30:21,610 --> 00:30:23,190
No, I did not.
494
00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:27,550
Excellent. Now, here are the problem
areas you must explore. Kimberly.
495
00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:32,370
Fragments of your skin found under her
fingernails. You said you briefly
496
00:30:32,370 --> 00:30:34,610
wrestled with her. A little sexual
foreplay.
497
00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:37,490
Perhaps it got rough and she scratched
you.
498
00:30:37,930 --> 00:30:38,930
I don't know.
499
00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:40,490
It's for you to think about.
500
00:30:41,150 --> 00:30:42,150
Kimberly.
501
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,060
Your footprints at the scene, you're
knowing where the body was.
502
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,940
That's their whole case.
503
00:30:47,300 --> 00:30:50,520
If you can satisfy these questions, we
still have a chance.
504
00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:55,720
Remember, you have an obligation to tell
the truth at all times, of course.
505
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:56,920
Of course.
506
00:30:57,540 --> 00:30:58,900
Very important.
507
00:30:59,860 --> 00:31:06,220
If Mr. Littleton traps you on cross, if
he catches you in any misstatement, it's
508
00:31:06,220 --> 00:31:09,800
probably because this whole thing is so
upsetting that you get confused.
509
00:31:11,420 --> 00:31:13,960
Imagine being accused of such a horrible
crime.
510
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Whose mind wouldn't be affected?
511
00:31:16,020 --> 00:31:17,020
I got you.
512
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,080
Good.
513
00:31:18,540 --> 00:31:22,640
So tell me, what happened after the two
of you left the store?
514
00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:26,780
At first, we just drove around drinking
the beer.
515
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,620
We actually drove down to the pond for a
little bit. I got out and looked
516
00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:32,480
around. You went to the pond?
517
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840
Just for a few minutes. She said it was
her favorite place.
518
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:38,960
Then we went driving around some more.
519
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,000
and pulled over on a dirt road.
520
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,460
And what happened there?
521
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:47,040
Well, we finished the beer, and we
started to kiss a little bit.
522
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,220
Then things kind of heated up.
523
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:50,560
How?
524
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:57,260
Well, the kissing got a little more
passionate, and I, you know,
525
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,320
touched her breasts and buttocks.
526
00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:01,580
And this was all consensual?
527
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:06,660
Completely. Then I kind of tried to take
her pants off, and we wrestled a
528
00:32:06,660 --> 00:32:07,660
little.
529
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,740
She kind of scratched me.
530
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,300
She scratched you?
531
00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:14,020
Yes.
532
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,880
She said she didn't want to go any
further, so we stopped.
533
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:18,280
And then what?
534
00:32:18,500 --> 00:32:21,880
Then she drove me back down to the
store, probably around 2.
535
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,620
I got out, got in my truck, and drove
home.
536
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,440
That was the last I saw her.
537
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,580
Well, Brian, how did you know where the
body was?
538
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,160
I didn't know.
539
00:32:36,469 --> 00:32:39,130
Deputy Locos kept pressing me for places
to look.
540
00:32:39,650 --> 00:32:44,130
She had said that the pond was one of
her favorite places, and I kind of
541
00:32:44,130 --> 00:32:45,130
directed him to look there.
542
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:46,870
I didn't know.
543
00:32:47,970 --> 00:32:49,550
I was just trying to help.
544
00:32:51,550 --> 00:32:52,870
You were just trying to help.
545
00:32:54,350 --> 00:32:57,370
Tell me something, Mr. Latham. Why
didn't you tell the police you'd been to
546
00:32:57,370 --> 00:32:58,370
pond?
547
00:32:58,590 --> 00:33:01,570
As they brought me in, my lawyer
instructed me to tell them nothing.
548
00:33:01,790 --> 00:33:03,170
But you went on to say a lot.
549
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:04,690
Whoa.
550
00:33:04,850 --> 00:33:08,290
Once they said I was a suspect, I
certainly told them all that I thought
551
00:33:08,290 --> 00:33:11,410
relevant, that I'd been kissing her and
that we were together.
552
00:33:11,930 --> 00:33:15,770
I didn't think the pond was really
relevant at that point. But at some
553
00:33:15,790 --> 00:33:17,130
you changed your mind about that.
554
00:33:17,590 --> 00:33:23,130
Well, when she didn't turn up, I
remembered her telling me that the pond
555
00:33:23,130 --> 00:33:24,130
favorite place.
556
00:33:24,550 --> 00:33:28,490
So I thought maybe she went back there
and maybe something happened to her
557
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:31,130
there, but I didn't do it. Yeah, you
keep saying that.
558
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:33,290
Is there anybody...
559
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,860
who can verify the time that you got
back to your motel that night. I don't
560
00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:39,520
know. It's your job to collect evidence,
not mine, sir.
561
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,600
Thank you.
562
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,660
And isn't it funny how all the evidence
we did collect points right at you?
563
00:33:46,220 --> 00:33:49,500
And isn't it strange that you knew
exactly where that body could be found?
564
00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:53,580
But you say you didn't do it, so I guess
it's our evidence versus your
565
00:33:53,580 --> 00:33:54,580
credibility.
566
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:56,620
Have you ever been convicted of a crime?
567
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,200
I asked you a question, sir.
568
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,060
Breaking and entering. How many times?
569
00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:06,500
Twice.
570
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,540
You're a convicted felon.
571
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,480
So can we both agree that when this jury
goes back to deliberate, that it should
572
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,620
turn on your credibility?
573
00:34:16,179 --> 00:34:17,239
Objection sustained.
574
00:34:18,060 --> 00:34:19,179
One last thing.
575
00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:26,739
You said when it became clear that the
girl couldn't be found, you directed
576
00:34:26,739 --> 00:34:27,820
Kenny to the pond.
577
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:33,100
But when the police first brought you
in, they made it clear that Susan Ingram
578
00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:34,100
was missing.
579
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,360
Why didn't you tell them about the pond
then?
580
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,360
I, uh... I forgot.
581
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:44,520
You forgot?
582
00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,600
I was being accused of a horrible crime.
583
00:34:49,820 --> 00:34:50,880
I was upset.
584
00:34:52,580 --> 00:34:55,199
Can you imagine being told you're a
murder suspect?
585
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,880
I was in shock.
586
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,180
Yeah, I bet you were.
587
00:35:02,780 --> 00:35:03,960
I'm done with this witness.
588
00:35:05,820 --> 00:35:07,200
The witness may step down.
589
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,520
There must be something in the water in
Rome, Wisconsin, because things just
590
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,360
seem to keep happening there, and they
happen fast.
591
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,540
Today, the Brian Latham murder trial is
expected to go to the jury, just two
592
00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:38,360
weeks after the defendant allegedly
killed Susan Engrams. You'll remember
593
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,400
is the same town where the mayor was
convicted of murder last year, only to
594
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:47,600
succeeded by another mayor who was
murdered by his own son.
595
00:35:50,510 --> 00:35:52,830
Maybe we should move. Just eat your
cereal, Zach.
596
00:35:53,830 --> 00:35:56,390
I'm off to court. Anybody got a problem
with that?
597
00:35:58,590 --> 00:35:59,590
No.
598
00:36:00,070 --> 00:36:01,070
Not at all?
599
00:36:01,490 --> 00:36:02,490
Good.
600
00:36:05,250 --> 00:36:09,170
We all want to believe he's the guy.
601
00:36:10,750 --> 00:36:12,370
We're desperate to believe it.
602
00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:14,330
Of course, then we can fix things.
603
00:36:15,290 --> 00:36:17,390
You'd find him guilty, get him off the
street.
604
00:36:17,850 --> 00:36:20,750
Go back to feeling safe and sitting on
our front porches.
605
00:36:21,750 --> 00:36:24,290
The facts, they're pretty good.
606
00:36:24,690 --> 00:36:26,310
He was last seen with her.
607
00:36:26,510 --> 00:36:30,790
His footprints were at the pond and he
knew where the body was.
608
00:36:31,110 --> 00:36:35,470
Now you could take the circumstantial
evidence, combine it with your fear and
609
00:36:35,470 --> 00:36:37,330
desperation and fudge a conviction.
610
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:40,890
The town will probably be grateful to
you.
611
00:36:43,010 --> 00:36:45,650
But I bet that there are a few of you...
612
00:36:46,270 --> 00:36:49,030
who are afraid of condemning an innocent
man.
613
00:36:50,170 --> 00:36:55,790
Maybe some of you take seriously the
obligation to find guilt beyond a
614
00:36:55,790 --> 00:36:56,790
reasonable doubt.
615
00:36:57,970 --> 00:37:00,150
Then you've got trouble.
616
00:37:02,710 --> 00:37:07,530
He drove to the pond with her, then to a
roadside where they kissed a little and
617
00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:12,990
wrestled some. That explains all the
physical evidence, the hairs, the
618
00:37:13,210 --> 00:37:14,210
the footprints.
619
00:37:14,860 --> 00:37:18,740
His knowledge that she liked the pond,
that explains it all.
620
00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:21,380
No weapon.
621
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:23,920
No witnesses.
622
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:27,680
No blood of my client or his
possessions.
623
00:37:28,020 --> 00:37:29,760
Nothing even microscopic.
624
00:37:30,980 --> 00:37:32,420
How is that possible?
625
00:37:32,980 --> 00:37:36,240
There would have to be a small
spattering of blood somewhere.
626
00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:38,560
Simple answer.
627
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,360
He didn't do it.
628
00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:43,760
Brian Latham.
629
00:37:44,350 --> 00:37:45,350
is innocent.
630
00:37:46,310 --> 00:37:50,510
And even if you hate the thought of it,
you at least have to admit the
631
00:37:50,510 --> 00:37:56,310
possibility. It's at least possible
somebody came after Brian left and
632
00:37:56,310 --> 00:37:58,010
Susan Engrams.
633
00:37:59,090 --> 00:38:03,550
Deputy Stewart testified that they
didn't even look for anybody else. They
634
00:38:03,550 --> 00:38:05,630
didn't even investigate it.
635
00:38:05,930 --> 00:38:09,830
They were confident that you would
convict whoever they would throw up for
636
00:38:09,830 --> 00:38:10,830
sacrifice.
637
00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:12,830
So what do you do?
638
00:38:13,750 --> 00:38:18,090
I could ask you to go back to that room
and do right by Brian Latham.
639
00:38:18,690 --> 00:38:20,970
I could ask you to do right by the
system.
640
00:38:21,670 --> 00:38:25,670
Instead, I'll only ask you to do right
by yourselves.
641
00:38:27,370 --> 00:38:30,070
You all know there's reasonable doubt.
642
00:38:30,610 --> 00:38:32,270
You can't not know it.
643
00:38:33,070 --> 00:38:39,130
So all I ask is that when you come back
out of that jury room, come out with
644
00:38:39,130 --> 00:38:40,730
your integrity intact.
645
00:38:43,310 --> 00:38:46,990
Come out with a verdict of not guilty.
646
00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:49,130
He's right. Not guilty.
647
00:38:49,530 --> 00:38:50,530
Come on.
648
00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:52,870
Mr.
649
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:56,030
Littleton.
650
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:59,090
You better be good.
651
00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:04,650
Well, for one, I agree with him.
652
00:39:06,050 --> 00:39:08,130
This thing comes down to your integrity.
653
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:14,020
The last thing I do is ask you to
safeguard the system. The system today
654
00:39:14,020 --> 00:39:15,020
perverted.
655
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,940
Attorneys jockey for positioning.
656
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,540
We manipulate the press for jury bias.
657
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:25,280
We hire publicists to remake criminals
into victims.
658
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:26,960
The truth?
659
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,000
The truth is only relevant if it
supports our case.
660
00:39:31,660 --> 00:39:35,900
But this process still has one redeeming
exception that continues to make it the
661
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,420
best in the world. It's called the jury.
662
00:39:40,170 --> 00:39:44,990
It's made up of people who, for the most
part, still cling to the ideal that it
663
00:39:44,990 --> 00:39:46,610
must be about truth.
664
00:39:47,830 --> 00:39:52,810
It may be diminishing, but many
Americans are still raised with a public
665
00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:56,570
conscience, an ingrained sense of
morality.
666
00:39:57,850 --> 00:40:02,810
And if we get enough of those people in
this box, the system still works.
667
00:40:06,250 --> 00:40:08,310
I don't know what we've got in this box
today.
668
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:15,100
I do know you could go back to that
room, dissect all the semantics, play
669
00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:18,460
the pieces of evidence, consider all the
magical possibilities.
670
00:40:19,220 --> 00:40:23,020
You could stay back in that room for a
week, because anything is possible.
671
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:26,020
Anything can be doubted.
672
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,780
But reasonable doubt?
673
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:35,420
Drifter with a criminal record.
674
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:37,520
Last seen with her.
675
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,720
Knows exactly where the body was. His
skin is under her fingernails. Come on.
676
00:40:43,780 --> 00:40:45,160
He killed that girl.
677
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:48,900
He lied up on that chair. Every one of
us knows that.
678
00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:53,120
Now, is it possible the things that he
said? Of course.
679
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:58,660
Is it conceivable that he forgot to
mention the pond to the police, but then
680
00:40:58,660 --> 00:41:00,940
remembered on the stand with the help
from his lawyer?
681
00:41:02,540 --> 00:41:03,900
Anything is conceivable.
682
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,640
But that's not what happened.
683
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:12,230
You look each other in the eye when you
go back to that room. You know what
684
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:13,230
happened.
685
00:41:15,430 --> 00:41:19,370
That man brutally stabbed this girl to
her death.
686
00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:23,310
Their daughter, Susan Ingle.
687
00:41:27,610 --> 00:41:28,610
She's gone.
688
00:41:30,810 --> 00:41:31,810
She's gone forever.
689
00:41:36,130 --> 00:41:37,610
Do you people have a conscience?
690
00:41:39,530 --> 00:41:42,070
A barometer of good and evil.
691
00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:44,690
Show me.
692
00:41:45,470 --> 00:41:46,790
Show this community.
693
00:41:47,350 --> 00:41:49,150
Show these parents.
694
00:41:49,390 --> 00:41:54,790
Show them that the truth, in fact, does
count more than the contest.
695
00:41:57,410 --> 00:42:01,310
Like he said, come out of that room with
your integrity intact.
696
00:42:36,140 --> 00:42:41,100
When I said I was ashamed of you, I
didn't mean it.
697
00:42:44,060 --> 00:42:45,060
I know.
698
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
I think the law can be a very noble
profession.
699
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,920
Especially if you're part of it.
700
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,120
You're an extraordinary young woman,
Kimberly.
701
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,180
I'm just afraid that...
702
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,740
You'll set your standards by one ball.
703
00:43:11,340 --> 00:43:12,740
That would be a shame.
704
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:17,640
The
705
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:24,880
court
706
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,880
will come to order.
707
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,660
Will the defendant please rise?
708
00:44:03,740 --> 00:44:06,340
Madam Foreman, has the jury reached the
verdict?
709
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:08,200
We have, Your Honor.
710
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:09,880
What say you?
711
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,960
In the matter of people versus Brian
Latham on the charge of murder in the
712
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:19,100
degree, we find the defendant guilty as
charged.
713
00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:26,060
Yes! Get it! Yes!
714
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,480
Members of the jury, thank you for your
time.
715
00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:37,420
Your service is concluded.
716
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,520
This matter is adjourned.
717
00:44:40,380 --> 00:44:42,820
Bailiff, take the defendant into
custody.
718
00:45:00,830 --> 00:45:01,529
Will appeal.
719
00:45:01,530 --> 00:45:02,990
I've already written the brief.
720
00:45:03,230 --> 00:45:06,110
Van's waiting out back. Let's get him
down. Deputy, one second.
721
00:45:06,330 --> 00:45:07,590
Come on. One second, please.
722
00:45:08,730 --> 00:45:09,730
Alone.
723
00:45:10,290 --> 00:45:11,290
Hold on.
724
00:45:12,130 --> 00:45:13,130
Make it quick.
725
00:45:13,410 --> 00:45:14,410
It's all over.
726
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:16,270
Done.
727
00:45:18,210 --> 00:45:21,210
I got no motive to say anything to you.
Say it fast.
728
00:45:22,330 --> 00:45:23,330
Truth time.
729
00:45:24,830 --> 00:45:25,830
Catholic to Catholic.
730
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:27,950
Me to you.
731
00:45:31,530 --> 00:45:32,530
I didn't do it.
732
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:36,430
I'm going to jail forever.
733
00:45:38,790 --> 00:45:39,890
I know it.
734
00:45:40,630 --> 00:45:41,630
I'm convicted.
735
00:45:42,990 --> 00:45:43,990
But I'm innocent.
736
00:45:47,250 --> 00:45:48,630
We gotta go. Come on.
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