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[ deep inhalations
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This...
This is insanity.
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I like to quote Albert Einstein.
He said, when he was asked,
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what he thought
the basic difference
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between genius
and stupidity was.
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And he never even blinked.
He just said,
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"Genius has its limits."
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Could our way of life
collapse?
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Could industrial
civilization collapse?
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And I think it's
a genuine worry.
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We have tremendous problems
generated by ourselves
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and limited mental capacity
to deal with them.
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There's no doubt in my mind,
none whatsoever,
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that there are
catastrophes looming
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for our children
and grandchildren
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that are almost
unimaginable to us.
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We've built this
magnificent structure,
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set of structures,
that empowers us.
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But you have to put
quotes around
that word
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because we're not
really empowered.
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If anything breaks
down in that system
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or conversely
if we decide
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the system
is unsustainable
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and there are problems
in that system,
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we're really stuck.
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This is what I see as the
greatest threat to our future
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where complexity and costliness
make it impossible
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to solve our problems as
we've been accustomed to doing.
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Each time we get a wakeup call,
as we now like to call it,
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we wake up briefly
and then we go right back
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to "I'll think about
that tomorrow."
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There are huge concepts here.
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Like what is reality?
What is truth?
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We're three and four generations
away from the farm.
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We've got people that think
that there's a machine
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in the back of the Piggly Wiggly
that makes the food.
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I mean, they have no idea.
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You know, the West Coast
of this nation
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has five days of food,
five days.
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We are playing an
intrinsically dangerous game
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because we are cutting
ourselves off from reality.
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And that can come back
not just to haunt us,
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but we can smack
into reality
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in a very dramatic way
because it's unexpected.
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To deal with climate change only
on the level of political theory
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or on the level of scientific
facts is extremely superficial.
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We have to investigate
what it is
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in the deep structure
of the human mind
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that just makes us unable
to move in the face of
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cognitive intellectual insight
into the facts.
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And even also in the face
of conscious experience
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of the situation
we find ourselves.
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As a species, we have evolved
under natural selection
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just as all animal
species evolved.
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And in our history, there was
never selective pressure.
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There was never pressure
to think more broadly
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in terms of either
time or space,
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and so humans
didn't evolve to do so.
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Yet that's precisely what
sustainability today requires.
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Particularly, it requires us
to understand the distant past,
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because the distant past
gives us lessons.
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And it also tells us
how we came to be
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in the circumstances
that we're in today.
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And we have to understand how
to take the lessons of the past
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and project them
into the future.
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We have to anticipate what
the future is going to be like.
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Humans don't tend to think in
terms of the long-term future.
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They think in terms
of the immediacy
of their lives.
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Obviously, if we're concerned
about the future of humanity,
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the future of our planet,
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we have to really think
in terms of the future.
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We have to think in,
you know, the long-term.
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Natural selection
doesn't do that.
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Never has done that.
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There is no foresight.
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There is no
forethought,
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no looking ahead
in nature.
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The human species
is the only species
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that has even the slightest
chance of looking ahead,
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the slightest chance
of using foresight.
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And we do...
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and we are in a way
the best hope
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for the future of the
world because of that.
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But, nevertheless,
we've got strong relics
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of our evolutionary
past.
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It's a struggle
for us to break away
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from the lack
of foresight,
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the short-termness
which bedevils
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the whole of the rest
of the natural world.
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If you think about it,
history essentially tells us
where we come from
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and why we are the way we are
to this day.
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But it doesn't really
tell us where we're going.
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We're in a world now
where the future matters.
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And yet we're still wired
for the here and now.
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Evolution has invented
many things.
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It has invented emotions.
It has invented color vision.
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It has invented the conscious
sense of selfhood.
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And it has obviously
also invented self-deception.
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We now have changed every
cubic meter of air and water,
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And every hectare of land on
earth now has a human imprint.
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We are moving into a new era.
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And the question is:
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Are we the kind of creature,
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are we the kind of being
that can handle this new epic,
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the anthropocene
that we have created?
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Throughout history,
there's been conflict.
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But actually humans
are really evolved
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to get on with each other
in groups.
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It's when those groups
are in conflict,
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fighting over resources,
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that you have the wars
and the battles.
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And, of course,
you can always land grab
for more territory.
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But what happens when
you run out of territory?
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What happens when
you run out of land?
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There's almost nothing
we can exploit
in terms of space
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on this planet anymore.
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We are exploiting time now.
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We're destroying
the quality of life
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of future human beings
on this planet,
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and we know that we do it.
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[ distant chanting ]
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[ chanting in Hawaiian ]
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The ainais our land,
the aina.
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Why do certain groups,
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even those who aren't
perpetuating a problem,
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why are they taking action
to benefit future generations
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in ways that would, say,
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help them overcome problems
of climate change?
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Well, the Hawaiian word ai
is to eat.
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Mea aiis the food.
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So ainais the land,
mea aiis the food.
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And just this area alone here
we know could feed families.
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It could feed a lot of people,
and once we get it going,
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it's just maintaining it
and keeping it in production.
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Whatever we put into the aina,
we put into our body.
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So if you put poison
into the aina,
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you're only going to put
poison into yourself.
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If you put good mana,
good life force, into the aina,
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you put it into yourself,
yeah?
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So we are all connected:
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the body and the aina.
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So no matter where you are,
you always have aina.
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You take care of your aina;
you malama aina.
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You're taking care of your
ancestor, your ancestral lands,
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because our ancestors are buried
in the aina,the bones.
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So we always walk with them,
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especially when you come
into a place like this.
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They're all around us.
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So it is our kuleana,
our responsibility,
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to maka'ala,
to become aware,
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and to raise awareness
of your kupuna
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and of your ancestral lands,
which is inside here,
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this whole kino,
the body and the ainais one.
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People do things largely
because in one way or another
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enhances
their own well-being,
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it enhances their own
interests and welfare.
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The difference is what people
do to enhance their well-being.
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So kupuna,our ancestors,
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they utilize aquaculture
and agriculture.
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Yeah? And they integrate
the two.
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So not only
we can farm the food,
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but we can farm fish
along with the food.
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If you live in a farming society
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where there's all kinds
of things that, you know,
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affect your survival chances,
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future orientedness
suddenly becomes
a matter of life and death.
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It becomes really important.
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And we live
down over here.
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This is the last
four farms
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that are remaining
out of all this
area.
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Polynesians developed a highly
complex society in Hawaii
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that was sustainable
entirely on local resources.
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They had no hope of getting
resources from outside.
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And they didn't
need resources from outside.
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The psychology necessary
for that future orientedness,
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one way in which
it's cultivated
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is through the development
of deep genealogies,
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where you think about
your ancestors
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going back through
numerous generations
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and then project forward.
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Our kupunahad it
figured out.
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They had to. They had
to figure it out...
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because we're
on this island.
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There's no place to go.
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Captain James Cook came.
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Over one million Hawaiians
living in the islands,
one million.
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After 2,000 years of living
out here in isolation,
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they were one million strong.
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Today we have about 1.2,
maybe 1.4 million
people today.
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We import 90% of our food.
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We're 90% dependent
on fossil fuels.
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And we still get people
homeless.
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Yeah.
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Whatever we take,
we want to make sure
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that the next guy
that come after us
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enjoy the same things
we enjoy.
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Common,
the psychological instinct
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when faced with a problem
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is to try to figure out
who the antagonist is
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or who the perpetrator
of the problem is.
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Ultimately, we all do things
that serve our own interests.
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But the things that we do
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have different implications
for people.
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We're taught that
everything we do today
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impact the next
seven generations.
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The next seven, brah.
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Just think about this:
What if...
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there was no more barges,
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no more boats,
no more ships,
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no more airplanes
flying into Hawaii.
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How many of you guys
think we're gonna survive?
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Hawaii is an example of
how we have transformed
places and ourselves
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from environments in which
humans and the environment
were symbiotic
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to environments
that can only be sustained
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by continual input
of outside resources,
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all ultimately dependent
on fossil fuels.
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Here we are in the wettest
state in the world...
-Yeah.
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And we drink bottled water.
-I know.
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We can consume
most anything we want,
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and so we tend to think, since
we grew up in such a society,
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that this is the normal
human condition.
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In fact, it's not normal.
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It's highly unusual
in human history.
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And there are questions about
how long it can continue.
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The golf course
takes a lot of water.
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They own several springs
on their side, rivers.
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It's the fertile resources
and the food producing areas
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and the medicine areas
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and all the upland areas
that they own
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and really don't
probably have an idea
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of what they have
under their control.
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Our loko i'ais our food
stock, our refrigerator,
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our cabinet,
our food source.
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So we want to build
this wall.
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We want to bring the rocks
back up to its...
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to the highest point
of the highest tide.
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That's what we want to do
is we want to farm the fish.
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And we want to use a natural
life cycle of the fish...
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so we don't overtake.
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We are all
in the same canoe.
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We're in the middle
of the Pacific Ocean
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on these little islands,
these little specks.
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No place to go.
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As Hawaiians,
we understand that concept
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that these guys are the ones
that are gonna live forever,
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but our time is so short.
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How would it change
if there were no legacy
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of me, of you, of any of us?
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I think that would
profoundly alter
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the way we think about
ourselves, our lives,
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and our place on this planet.
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This is a pula pula.
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This is the baby
that grows off of it
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that we break off,
the oha.
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And we're gonna plant this, and
it's gonna have its own family.
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And it's gonna create
future generations.
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So this just continues
to carry on and on,
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and what we do is
we cut the leaf here.
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We're still surviving.
We're still here.
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So what are we gonna do
for the ones
that come after us?
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And this is what we eat.
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And this is what we plant.
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So this part of the plant here
is called the ha.
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And hais the breath,
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the breath of life
that carries on,
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so very symbolic
that this is our seedling
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that we plant
over and over again.
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[ deep inhalations
and exhalations ]
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Sustainability,
to most people,
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is a function
of what they value.
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People will sustain
what they value.
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They'll work to sustain
what they value,
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which is always some function
of what they're familiar with.
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We are, modern humans,
creatures of the
Enlightenment,
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that great era
400 or 500 years ago
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where humans discovered
their capacity
for reason,
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where they blew away
myths and superstition,
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where the earth
became disenchanted.
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And so we recreated ourselves
as rational creatures
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who could look around us,
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assess the world,
study it,
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evaluate it,
gather the facts.
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and work out how
to transform the world,
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how to change things
in our own interests.
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A lot of us are raised to think
that we have incredible power.
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I mean, we live
in an affluent society,
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we have access
to all this technology.
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we can sort of
go where we want.
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We can get in our car,
we can get information.
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But when you look at it,
we really don't have
a lot of autonomy
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in the sense that we rely
heavily, almost entirely,
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on other systems
for that power.
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If one looks at
the dynamics of C02
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and the latest facts
from physics,
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it is very clear that...
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the whole development
of the earth's climate
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will unfold in an uncontrollable
and in a catastrophic way.
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We have already
now waited too long.
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It's also not something
that you can turn off
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like a boiling pot of water
on your kitchen stove.
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Even if you turn it off,
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the development,
the dynamics in our atmosphere,
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will continue for centuries.
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Humanity lives in a severe
state of self-denial,
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of self-deception,
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of repression of facts
right now.
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We just hope that
what the scientists are
telling us will happen,
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we simply hope that it won't.
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We're not enlightened creatures.
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We're subject to the same type
of superstitious thinking
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where our hubris overwhelms
our capacity to reason.
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Somebody says, you know,
how much money are you
saving for retirement?
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And you know, we can
show you with numbers:
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Here's what a person
with your needs,
your requirements,
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is going to need for
20 years of retirement.
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How much are you saving?
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Oh, you're not
saving anything? Wow.
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Like more and more
Americans.
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Okay, how do you try
to get through retirement?
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Uh, they have no answer.
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They understand
that they have no answer.
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They understand they're
going to be in trouble
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is as clearly they can
understand anything,
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and yet they're not
changing their behavior.
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Why is that?
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It's because
our rational brain
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is fully capable of
grasping an abstraction
like the future,
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or the future
with no money.
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You get that.
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But the part of your brain
that motivates you,
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the limbic,
the lizard brain,
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that part has no conception
of the future. It can't--
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It totally
can't understand anything
beyond the here and now.
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So you can talk until
you're blue in the face
about a problem,
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whether it's your lack
of retirement money
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or the fact
that water supplies are
gonna be insufficient
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for the number of people
we're gonna have--
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any number of sort of
future-oriented
problems--
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and part of your brain
is going,
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"Yeah, yeah,
that's terrible,
that's terrible,"
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And another part of
your brain is going,
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"I don't hear you.
I don't care.
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"I'm only interested
in dealing with
the here and now,
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and the here and now
looks great."
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Well, the old adage in the West
is that...
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whiskey's for drinkin'
and water's for fightin'.
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When the storms come off
the Pacific Ocean
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and they hit the Sierra Nevadas,
they're torn apart.
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Our best storms come out of
Southern California anyhow,
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when the air currents can get
between all the mountain ranges.
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There's mountain ranges
all across the state of Nevada.
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It's one of the most
mountainous states there is,
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if not the most
mountainous state.
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So by the time they get
all the way to eastern Nevada,
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there's not much moisture left.
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Our annual rainfall
is only about eight inches.
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Water speculators
are buying all the ranches
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all along the river,
the Humboldt.
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They're just buying everything
up for the same reasons:
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for water to go to the cities.
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It's a little bit intimidating.
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you know, you walk up there
and you sit down and...
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Of course, when they had
the prehearing in Reno,
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one whole side of the room
was full of...
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$1,000-an-hour alligators,
or, you know,
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lawyers for the Southern Nevada
Water Authority.
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I don't know what they get,
but, I mean...
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And a bunch of farmers
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on the other side
arguing for their life,
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for the next generation.
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I wanted to draw as much
attention not to myself,
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but to the plight,
to what was going on.
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Thus, when they said
how long will it take you
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to interview your witnesses,
how many witnesses you got,
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and how much time also,
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I put down all my animals,
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all my horses, everything,
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and then wrote down, um,
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that it'd probably take 30 days
to interview 'em all,
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which the lawyers should have
gone along with that,
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because, you know,
they get paid by the hour.
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We have this kind of defense
mechanism where we forget.
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We deny that things
are difficult.
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For example
in California now:
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We are in our second
drought year
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in what, pretty obviously,
is gonna be a drought cycle.
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And people are beginning
to realize we have a problem.
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What they don't realize
is that a thousand years ago,
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we had droughts that lasted,
or drought cycles,
100 years or more,
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when the snowpack
in the Sierra was 45%
of what it is today--
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and today it's low.
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I've talked to water experts.
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Their biggest problem--
they deliver the water,
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they're the people
in the trenches.
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Their biggest problem
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is people denying
that there are water shortages.
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Every time they build
a new hotel,
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what's the number one
theme they've got?
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Water parks, water slides.
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00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,500
They've got a boat
floating in a moat.
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They've got huge sprinklers,
or whatever those things are.
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Water shows at night.
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For God's sakes,
I mean, it's a desert!
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Our civilization,
our society,
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is facing a limit
to what we can do.
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00:24:06,766 --> 00:24:08,566
We haven't realized
that yet.
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But there is this limit.
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And we're crashing
against this limit.
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And it is going
to be seen
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how we fare
in this big transition
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which will have to do
with the limits we face,
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because really
we're going into it
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without understanding
what we're doing.
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A little bit of our
self model is conscious.
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We can attend to it.
Most of our self model,
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controlling the body,
is completely unconscious.
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And, of course, one way
to put the question
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is what is it
in the human self model
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that now makes it
impossible to act
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on the level of the species
as a whole?
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So we behave in ways
that are rational,
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even though we don't consciously
think about the causes
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and the consequences
of our behavior.
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We're highly programmed
to respond
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to certain categories
of stimuli:
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Rewarding stimuli,
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and the more immediately
rewarding,
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the more imminent
the reward,
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the more compelling
we are.
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And novel stimuli,
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threatening stimuli,
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sexual stimuli,
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signs of anger
or aggression--
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We have evolved to
attend to these things.
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It's called
the mismatch hypothesis.
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There's a time lag
between how the brain evolves
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and how society changes.
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At this point,
we're left with brains
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that are similar
to what they were
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on the eve of the Agricultural
Revolution 12,000 years ago,
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and probably very similar
to the way they were
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250,000 years ago,
447
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but in a vastly
different environment.
448
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We're very alert that we have
almost immediate responses.
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Our bodies are programmed,
um...
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either to find
a basic response
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if we perceive a danger
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or to engage in courtship
immediately
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if we think there is
an opportunity for mating.
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It's natural selection
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acting in every generation:
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Simply those that leave
many surviving offspring
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leave lots of copies
of their genes.
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00:26:25,933 --> 00:26:28,800
Those that leave
few or no offspring
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00:26:28,833 --> 00:26:32,033
leave few copies
of their genes.
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Organisms are
predisposed to survive
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and to leave descendants.
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It's scary to think
about what has happened
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to the world population
over the last 300 years.
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In the middle 1700s
was perhaps half a billion.
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And it is now seven.
466
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The world population has
increased by a factor of 10.
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The way we live today
is really a product
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of the last 200 years,
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partly coming from
the Industrial Revolution,
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but very largely coming from
the subsidies of fossil fuels
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that have allowed us
to escape the constraints
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of current solar energy.
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00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:15,800
And it's estimated
that humans living
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under a solar energy regime
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can achieve
a population density,
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a stable population density,
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of perhaps no more
than two billion people.
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And the desire to have a higher
income is fairly intense,
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even at the very high
income levels
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that we have on average
in the United States
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and Norway and other places
that I know well.
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So that driving force,
I think, is there,
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and will remain there.
484
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We grow more and more complex
to solve problems.
485
00:28:00,566 --> 00:28:02,233
This is an escalation dynamic,
486
00:28:02,266 --> 00:28:04,400
and it's the same dynamic
as in an arms race.
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00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:08,866
In the world of complex systems,
to use a colloquial expression,
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there's no such thing
as a free lunch.
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Complexity always has a cost.
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And, ultimately, the cost
is paid in terms of energy.
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We've never had a year
like this
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00:28:28,266 --> 00:28:33,000
where it's been so dry
and so hot.
493
00:28:33,033 --> 00:28:35,533
Wildfires, record rainfalls
other places.
494
00:28:35,566 --> 00:28:37,333
If they think it's gonna
keep getting worse
495
00:28:37,366 --> 00:28:40,400
on a relative scale
to what we've seen this year.
496
00:28:40,433 --> 00:28:42,333
That's probably
what may happen.
497
00:28:42,366 --> 00:28:47,300
And it's sort of a scary thing
to think about.
498
00:28:47,333 --> 00:28:49,000
Our lawyer's
not the biggest liar.
499
00:28:49,033 --> 00:28:50,533
Our weatherman's
the biggest liar.
500
00:28:50,566 --> 00:28:52,533
He'll tell us we've got
an 80% chance of rain
501
00:28:52,566 --> 00:28:54,100
and we get a sprinkle.
502
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:55,900
And we get a 30% chance
of rain we'll end up
503
00:28:55,933 --> 00:28:57,900
with two inches of rain.
We're flooded.
504
00:28:57,933 --> 00:29:01,966
I've just been so close
to breaking down and crying.
505
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,200
And this is what, you know,
506
00:29:05,233 --> 00:29:10,566
is just really brings it on,
is this pasture.
507
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,266
I mean, there's really nothing
of value here for a cow to eat.
508
00:29:18,366 --> 00:29:20,333
When these crops were
at this stage last year,
509
00:29:20,366 --> 00:29:21,566
our wells were
out of water.
510
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,300
We were fighting
tooth and nail
511
00:29:24,333 --> 00:29:26,066
just to try to keep
these crops alive
512
00:29:26,100 --> 00:29:28,900
and keep 'em going
just to produce
any kind of crop.
513
00:29:34,033 --> 00:29:36,600
You know, it takes eons
for topsoil to develop
514
00:29:36,633 --> 00:29:38,233
from decaying vegetation.
515
00:29:38,266 --> 00:29:41,000
One of my neighbors
made the comment
516
00:29:41,033 --> 00:29:42,366
in his old rocky ranch
517
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,600
that he had about
one inch of topsoil
518
00:29:44,633 --> 00:29:46,900
between him and starvation.
519
00:29:46,933 --> 00:29:49,600
And you have to protect it
with the grasses
520
00:29:49,633 --> 00:29:51,333
and don't overgraze it.
521
00:29:51,366 --> 00:29:54,366
And we're totally dependent
upon the rainfall.
522
00:29:56,133 --> 00:29:59,200
Without dirt, I'm done.
I'm over with.
523
00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:01,933
They might as well just go ahead
and call the people in,
524
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:03,000
tell 'em to dig me
a 6-foot hole,
525
00:30:03,033 --> 00:30:05,000
put me in a box,
and call it good.
526
00:30:06,366 --> 00:30:09,333
That's sort of the weather
mantra in central Texas:
527
00:30:09,366 --> 00:30:11,933
Drought, drought, drought,
drought, flood.
528
00:30:13,266 --> 00:30:16,233
The term that everybody
uses is just "brutal."
529
00:30:16,266 --> 00:30:19,433
Where we would normally
see honey stores
and pollen stores
530
00:30:19,466 --> 00:30:22,500
for them getting ready for
the upcoming wintertime,
531
00:30:22,533 --> 00:30:24,366
there was nothing in there,
532
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,900
because all of the natural
water sources had dried up.
533
00:30:26,933 --> 00:30:29,100
When drought affects
our natural pollinators,
534
00:30:29,133 --> 00:30:32,033
it has a horrible effect
on our environment
535
00:30:32,066 --> 00:30:33,366
and our food supplies.
536
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,300
It just sucks your soul dry.
537
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:44,366
Water is the new oil.
538
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,166
And it's become a commodity
just like oil rights
539
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,166
and mineral rights
used to be for Texas.
540
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,966
And the battle, the competition
541
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:52,200
is just going to
get more intense
542
00:30:52,233 --> 00:30:54,033
as more and more people
move here
543
00:30:54,066 --> 00:30:58,300
and it gets hotter and drier.
and stays that way.
544
00:31:01,466 --> 00:31:05,200
Responding to climate change
in the area of farming
545
00:31:05,233 --> 00:31:08,066
is another arena in which
society in the future
546
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:10,466
is going to experience
increasing costs
547
00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,266
and diminishing returns.
548
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,400
We know that the consequences
of the industrialized world
549
00:31:15,433 --> 00:31:18,966
are going to place a great
burden upon our children
550
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,966
and we have to do
something now.
551
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,366
But it does raise the question:
552
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,366
Even though we're aware
of all these consequences,
553
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:27,433
why are we still not radically
changing our behavior?
554
00:31:27,466 --> 00:31:30,533
The fact that we're
culture-creating individuals
555
00:31:30,566 --> 00:31:34,000
means that we create
our own sense of psychology
556
00:31:34,033 --> 00:31:35,433
and our own sense of values
557
00:31:35,466 --> 00:31:37,466
and our own sense
of what's important.
558
00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:48,333
Wai waiin Hawaii
means values.
559
00:31:48,366 --> 00:31:50,266
So you can see
this is our values.
560
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,733
This is what we value,
the wai wai,the water,
561
00:31:52,766 --> 00:31:55,200
the source of life:
562
00:31:55,233 --> 00:31:57,200
What is important,
What's gonna sustain us,
563
00:31:57,233 --> 00:31:58,766
where the water's
coming from,
564
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,000
how the water is
managed and used.
565
00:32:02,233 --> 00:32:04,200
They have a legacy of the land
that they inhabit,
566
00:32:04,233 --> 00:32:07,100
and they think of themselves
as being part of the land,
567
00:32:07,133 --> 00:32:08,200
continuous in the land,
568
00:32:08,233 --> 00:32:09,566
and that, therefore,
they should--
569
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,433
what they do now really
defines who they are.
570
00:32:15,533 --> 00:32:20,066
We're creating the world
that's creating us all the time.
571
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,366
What do we do
by way of reproducing,
572
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,033
to have a culture
that carries on in the future?
573
00:32:26,066 --> 00:32:28,066
We don't just produce babies.
574
00:32:28,100 --> 00:32:30,066
We send them to school.
575
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,700
And we instill in them
the norms of the culture
576
00:32:32,733 --> 00:32:35,333
and the knowledge
of the culture.
577
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,733
The huge engine of
consumerism was driving
578
00:32:51,766 --> 00:32:58,100
and became the economic
and cultural raison d'etre
579
00:32:58,133 --> 00:33:00,200
of our lives as Americans.
580
00:33:00,233 --> 00:33:03,100
And the American dream
became defined
581
00:33:03,133 --> 00:33:06,366
as what you own,
what you have.
582
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,400
And you start thinking
there's something wrong
with the car I have,
583
00:33:10,433 --> 00:33:11,666
or the house I have,
584
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:13,533
or the spouse I have.
585
00:33:13,566 --> 00:33:15,233
I mean, there is this sense
586
00:33:15,266 --> 00:33:19,066
that we're entitled
to the next best thing.
587
00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:20,400
You know, we're socialized
588
00:33:20,433 --> 00:33:22,633
and we're existing
in a cultural context.
589
00:33:22,666 --> 00:33:26,600
That cultural context
shapes us and constrains us.
590
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,166
Strategic locations ensure
repetition.
591
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,833
And repetition creates
consumer remembrance,
592
00:33:33,866 --> 00:33:35,333
driving home a message
593
00:33:35,366 --> 00:33:39,333
not once, not twice,
but many times,
594
00:33:39,366 --> 00:33:42,266
thus bridging the gap
between the manufacturer
595
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,066
and the consumer.
596
00:33:50,366 --> 00:33:52,433
One of the universal
characteristics of children is
597
00:33:52,466 --> 00:33:55,266
that they will reliably copy
the adults around them
598
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:57,100
in their actions
and their practices,
599
00:33:57,133 --> 00:33:59,766
even when the actions
have no purpose whatsoever.
600
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,700
This suggests that,
within our brains,
601
00:34:01,733 --> 00:34:05,266
there is a mechanism designed
to imitate others around us.
602
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:08,466
So we are kind of
the willing copiers,
603
00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:11,666
the willing replicators
of this information.
604
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:13,100
And we can't help it.
605
00:34:14,566 --> 00:34:19,566
We are relinquishing
more and more
606
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,833
of our day-to-day
decision-making
607
00:34:22,866 --> 00:34:24,866
to the world
of the machine.
608
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:26,666
You go out on
the street today,
609
00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:27,866
you're gonna see
half the people
610
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,233
walking around
are carrying
611
00:34:29,266 --> 00:34:31,266
these little things
around,
612
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:32,700
their Smart Phone,
613
00:34:32,733 --> 00:34:34,766
and they're following
the instructions
614
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,733
of their Smart Phone
as to...
615
00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:38,633
whether to turn
right or left
616
00:34:38,666 --> 00:34:40,233
at the next
intersection.
617
00:34:42,733 --> 00:34:47,266
Because of the changes in
society created by the image,
618
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:50,166
we're moving further and further
away from the real.
619
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,600
And we're moving more and more
towards the image.
620
00:34:52,633 --> 00:34:57,333
So an image-saturated society
has moved away from nature,
621
00:34:57,366 --> 00:34:59,466
has moved away from,
say, realism.
622
00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:03,266
We start to move away
from the connection
623
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,266
that we have with the world.
624
00:35:10,566 --> 00:35:13,666
We feel like we're part
of the social reality,
625
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:15,700
the images that
we're surrounded with,
626
00:35:15,733 --> 00:35:17,266
but we can't change anything.
627
00:35:18,966 --> 00:35:21,200
As we grow up
from children to adults,
628
00:35:21,233 --> 00:35:23,933
we identify with the groups
that we think we belong to,
629
00:35:23,966 --> 00:35:25,766
and we behave accordingly.
630
00:35:31,533 --> 00:35:34,400
I remember living in Oahu.
631
00:35:34,433 --> 00:35:37,566
I went to a very good
private school,
632
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,566
went to a very nice small
private college on Oahu.
633
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,500
You know, I was just
caught up in the, um...
634
00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:49,700
the fast lane to
make money, make money,
635
00:35:49,733 --> 00:35:52,966
make money, make money,
and, uh...
636
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,700
and drive the nice car
637
00:35:54,733 --> 00:35:56,566
and have the nice house,
638
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,533
and that's supposed
to make me happy
and fulfilled.
639
00:35:59,566 --> 00:36:02,000
It leaves you sort of,
by definition, unhappy
640
00:36:02,033 --> 00:36:06,933
because nothing--
no state you ever achieve
is gonna be permanent.
641
00:36:06,966 --> 00:36:09,333
One way of looking
at the problem of...
642
00:36:09,366 --> 00:36:12,666
of why we're wrecking
our world
643
00:36:12,700 --> 00:36:15,700
is not to think of humans as
the drivers of what's going on,
644
00:36:15,733 --> 00:36:19,733
but to think of the memes as the
drivers of what's going on.
645
00:36:19,766 --> 00:36:22,366
So the whole way of thinking
memetically is to say
646
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,400
all the ideas, stories,
647
00:36:25,433 --> 00:36:26,800
ways of doing things,
technologies
648
00:36:26,833 --> 00:36:29,900
that we copy from person
to person are replicated.
649
00:36:29,933 --> 00:36:31,466
So genes are one replicator
650
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,300
that's copied
by reproducing bodies.
651
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,766
And the memes, the buildings,
the wires, all this stuff...
652
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,533
they are replicators too.
653
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:57,633
So I wake up in the morning
totally stressed out,
654
00:36:57,666 --> 00:37:02,800
smoking cigarettes,
about 30, 40 pounds
heavier,
655
00:37:02,833 --> 00:37:06,466
um...just trying
to find out,
656
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:09,566
you know,
where am I going
with my life?
657
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,300
What will be my legacy?
658
00:37:11,333 --> 00:37:12,966
What am I gonna leave
behind?
659
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,566
And then I see--I hear...
660
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:18,900
woosh, woosh.
661
00:37:18,933 --> 00:37:20,800
Then I hear
the steersmen call.
662
00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:23,100
"Hup, hu!"
663
00:37:23,133 --> 00:37:25,333
Woosh, woosh.
664
00:37:25,366 --> 00:37:27,400
They switch,
"Hup, hu!"
665
00:37:27,433 --> 00:37:29,633
Woosh, woosh.
666
00:37:29,666 --> 00:37:32,566
"Hup, hu,"
and you can hear
everyone's breath.
667
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,333
I can hear everybody
working together.
668
00:37:34,366 --> 00:37:36,800
I could hear the sound
of the waves going.
669
00:37:36,833 --> 00:37:40,366
And every time I heard
that "hup, hu,"
670
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:45,400
switching, changing:
to huli,to flip.
671
00:37:45,433 --> 00:37:48,400
And that was the message
that I got that day
672
00:37:48,433 --> 00:37:50,800
when I heard them
say, "Hup, hu."
673
00:37:50,833 --> 00:37:53,833
Huis short for
the Hawaiian word huli.
674
00:37:53,866 --> 00:37:59,533
Huli,to change,
to flip, to turn over.
675
00:38:03,566 --> 00:38:06,433
It's unsettling
to think of oneself
676
00:38:06,466 --> 00:38:09,433
as just an ephemeral process
that comes and goes,
677
00:38:09,466 --> 00:38:11,666
that's built out of scraps
of the environment,
678
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,500
as well as the stuff in here.
679
00:38:14,533 --> 00:38:16,933
Being a complicated,
powerful self
680
00:38:16,966 --> 00:38:19,833
with lots of beliefs in things
that have to be defended
681
00:38:19,866 --> 00:38:21,400
doesn't make us happy,
682
00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:23,566
but it propagates the memes.
683
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,000
And I think this is
at least a part
684
00:38:27,033 --> 00:38:31,766
of our awful tendency to be
unhappy with who we are.
685
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,600
Without even knowing,
just quit my job,
and came back home.
686
00:38:37,633 --> 00:38:40,466
And I reconnected
with my elders.
687
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:44,866
And my elder said,
"Ah, hey, Vene,
688
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:46,800
I need you to go build
a fish pond."
689
00:38:46,833 --> 00:38:49,100
And I'm like,
"Brah, a fish pond?
690
00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:51,133
I don't even know
how to stack rocks."
691
00:38:51,166 --> 00:38:54,133
And he's all, "Ke kahi ke haki."
692
00:38:54,166 --> 00:38:57,066
Whatever you put in
is what you get out.
693
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,066
"You put in one hour,
694
00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:02,000
"your wall
gonna be this big.
695
00:39:02,033 --> 00:39:03,533
"You put in 100 hours,
696
00:39:03,566 --> 00:39:05,166
"your wall
gonna be that big.
697
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,166
"You put in
1,000 hours,
698
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,900
"your wall
gonna be this big.
699
00:39:08,933 --> 00:39:10,633
"You put in
10,000 hours,
700
00:39:10,666 --> 00:39:12,800
your wall gonna be
this big."
701
00:39:15,666 --> 00:39:19,000
Yeah, hi kumu,
I understand now.
702
00:39:19,033 --> 00:39:21,633
Hiki no,just do it.
703
00:39:26,466 --> 00:39:27,900
Evolution is blind.
704
00:39:27,933 --> 00:39:29,766
There is no goal as such.
705
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,666
It just is the set of attributes
706
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,900
which are best suited
to the changing environment.
707
00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:40,600
We adapt mainly
to conditions
as they are.
708
00:39:40,633 --> 00:39:43,766
So we become socialized.
We self-domesticate.
709
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,866
We select for those
behaviors and traits
710
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:50,066
which are the best
and most conducive
to living in groups.
711
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,633
All my friends, like even
some of my family members,
712
00:39:52,666 --> 00:39:53,800
are like, wow, why...
713
00:39:53,833 --> 00:39:55,666
why you building
a rock wall?
714
00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:58,000
You're not even
getting paid.
715
00:39:58,033 --> 00:40:01,500
Are you crazy?
Why would somebody
want to do that?
716
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:05,466
To try to explain
why so many people can act
717
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,533
counter
to their self-interest,
718
00:40:07,566 --> 00:40:09,900
I think you have
to talk about
719
00:40:09,933 --> 00:40:13,233
the power of them
being deceived.
720
00:40:13,266 --> 00:40:16,566
One avenue to deceiving
someone
721
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:21,866
is to manipulate their system
of self-deception.
722
00:40:23,733 --> 00:40:27,833
Any state or authority that
has to control the behavior
723
00:40:27,866 --> 00:40:29,833
of large groups
of human beings
724
00:40:29,866 --> 00:40:33,233
or any company that wants
to market a product
725
00:40:33,266 --> 00:40:36,100
and control
consumer behavior
726
00:40:36,133 --> 00:40:39,633
has to somehow
lock into
727
00:40:39,666 --> 00:40:41,566
these mechanisms
of self-deception.
728
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,233
If you want to sell
something to people
729
00:40:44,266 --> 00:40:46,266
that they actually
do not need,
730
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:48,200
you have to tweak
their preferences.
731
00:40:48,233 --> 00:40:49,866
You have to tweak
their wishes.
732
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:54,866
You have to lure them
into some perception
733
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:57,600
that this act of
shopping, for instance,
734
00:40:57,633 --> 00:41:01,633
or this act of voting
will give meaning
to their life...
735
00:41:04,166 --> 00:41:06,266
Because they understand
intuitively
736
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,733
that we're all animals
seeking social status.
737
00:41:08,766 --> 00:41:12,600
The larger idea that we
can have whatever we want,
738
00:41:12,633 --> 00:41:14,233
we can feel, you know,
whatever way we want.
739
00:41:14,266 --> 00:41:16,866
that we can achieve
the state of happiness
we want
740
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:18,000
simply by consuming,
741
00:41:18,033 --> 00:41:19,133
that idea,
742
00:41:19,166 --> 00:41:21,633
the signal
that we're receiving
743
00:41:21,666 --> 00:41:23,033
and always will receive,
744
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:25,766
is that that's always
going to be possible.
745
00:41:27,266 --> 00:41:30,633
We've gotten so used to this
idea of continual progress
746
00:41:30,666 --> 00:41:33,600
and feeling better
at each juncture
747
00:41:33,633 --> 00:41:35,733
that we don't even
question it anymore.
748
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,900
The propagandists,
the perception managers,
749
00:41:42,933 --> 00:41:46,566
know that they are
creating reality
750
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,066
for tens of millions
of people.
751
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,733
"You reality-oriented people
don't understand.
752
00:41:52,766 --> 00:41:54,800
We create a new reality."
753
00:41:54,833 --> 00:41:57,700
And then there's also
the version of the Monopoly game
754
00:41:57,733 --> 00:42:01,033
in our economy,
which is all about competing
755
00:42:01,066 --> 00:42:03,933
to see who can collect
the most toys,
756
00:42:03,966 --> 00:42:09,700
but also the biggest number on
their financial asset statement.
757
00:42:09,733 --> 00:42:11,966
This is induced
self-deception now--
758
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,200
I'm being victimized--
759
00:42:13,233 --> 00:42:16,100
and my greed
is being played upon.
760
00:42:16,133 --> 00:42:17,333
We all want money.
761
00:42:17,366 --> 00:42:18,933
And we'd all love the scheme
762
00:42:18,966 --> 00:42:21,800
which, if repeated,
could get us even more money.
763
00:42:21,833 --> 00:42:24,866
You know,
"We are doing God's work,"
764
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,666
which you may recall...
[ laughs ]
765
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:30,066
is a phrase from the head
of Goldman Sachs.
766
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,833
And I suspect
he truly believes that
767
00:42:32,866 --> 00:42:36,633
because that's what the culture
tells him and affirms.
768
00:42:37,866 --> 00:42:39,900
Our brains are designed,
by evolution,
769
00:42:39,933 --> 00:42:43,233
to just reinforce
what we already believe.
770
00:42:43,266 --> 00:42:45,100
But why would that be?
771
00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:47,033
In part, I think there's
an evolutionary reason for it,
772
00:42:47,066 --> 00:42:48,766
is that deep beliefs
773
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,766
like religious beliefs
or political beliefs,
774
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,800
ideological, cultural,
social beliefs--
775
00:42:52,833 --> 00:42:56,833
these are all wrapped up
in our tribe, um...
776
00:42:56,866 --> 00:42:59,100
the sort of unity
of the tribe.
777
00:42:59,133 --> 00:43:01,000
This is what we stand for.
778
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,433
Ain't that the way
great empires work?
779
00:43:07,466 --> 00:43:10,900
Newsreel announcer: They are
dug in and heavily fortified.
780
00:43:10,933 --> 00:43:14,000
We are literally destroying
the source of our own existence
781
00:43:14,033 --> 00:43:17,200
and think we are getting
richer as we do it.
782
00:43:33,366 --> 00:43:36,866
So everyone,
left, right, up, down,
783
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,733
thinks that they accept
propaganda
784
00:43:39,766 --> 00:43:42,400
as long as it's their propaganda
for their cause.
785
00:43:42,433 --> 00:43:47,900
On climate change,
the whole problem is magnified
786
00:43:47,933 --> 00:43:52,033
by the fact that business groups
that have strong self-interests
787
00:43:52,066 --> 00:43:57,733
in one or another position
set up so-called think tanks--
788
00:43:57,766 --> 00:43:59,800
call them self-deception...
789
00:43:59,833 --> 00:44:02,233
call them deceit
and self-deception tanks--
790
00:44:02,266 --> 00:44:07,000
whose business is
to generate information
791
00:44:07,033 --> 00:44:10,466
in support of
a predetermined position.
792
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,100
Now that ain't
how we do science.
793
00:44:13,133 --> 00:44:15,466
We're not supposed to have
a predetermined position.
794
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,766
The whole point is to have
no predetermined position
795
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,833
unless it's something that's
already been well established.
796
00:44:21,866 --> 00:44:24,233
And then you build on it.
797
00:44:24,266 --> 00:44:28,033
So the tobacco industry
used to have some group
798
00:44:28,066 --> 00:44:30,066
that busied themselves
trying to show
799
00:44:30,100 --> 00:44:33,066
that tobacco was good for you,
it didn't cause cancer.
800
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:34,200
It's nonsense.
801
00:44:42,833 --> 00:44:44,533
What's the level
of consciousness
802
00:44:44,566 --> 00:44:47,166
of the various actors
in the system?
803
00:44:50,233 --> 00:44:51,966
The levels of CO2
we produce are increasing.
804
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,800
But don't worry.
Norwegian oil
805
00:44:53,833 --> 00:44:55,233
is still the cleanest
on the market.
806
00:44:55,266 --> 00:44:58,333
Whatever that means.
I don't even know
what this means.
807
00:44:58,366 --> 00:45:01,366
Norway is the fifth
largest oil exporter
in the world.
808
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,366
But people think
of themselves
as little Norway.
809
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,400
[ speaking Norwegian ]
810
00:45:06,433 --> 00:45:07,833
"Norway is
a little country"
811
00:45:07,866 --> 00:45:09,066
is a common expression.
812
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,100
And this is just this way
of sort of saying,
813
00:45:11,133 --> 00:45:14,400
well, we're backwards people
who are very nature-loving.
814
00:45:14,433 --> 00:45:15,933
We're very environmental,
and...
815
00:45:15,966 --> 00:45:18,900
and you know, what does
this have to do with us?
816
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,333
Is the whole world
getting together? No.
817
00:45:24,366 --> 00:45:27,900
Americans, I think,
like to point
the finger at China
818
00:45:27,933 --> 00:45:30,866
and say, "Oh, you know,
we're not so bad
819
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,033
"because look
at the Chinese.
820
00:45:32,066 --> 00:45:33,400
"They're the fastest
growing economy,
821
00:45:33,433 --> 00:45:35,266
"and they're the ones
that are really--
822
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:37,433
It's not us.
And there's nothing
we can do anyway."
823
00:45:37,466 --> 00:45:39,466
And we do that
personally,
824
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:42,266
but we also do that
as a collective.
825
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:44,400
"I'm only gonna change
if you're gonna change."
826
00:45:44,433 --> 00:45:45,866
If I don't think
that you're changing,
827
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:47,433
it's not fair for me
to change.
828
00:45:47,466 --> 00:45:49,200
We want things to be fair.
829
00:45:49,233 --> 00:45:54,400
We mutually use perceived
inequity to do nothing.
830
00:45:54,433 --> 00:45:57,166
It would be much easier if you
really didn't have to change
831
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,033
most of the rest
of your life--
832
00:45:59,066 --> 00:46:00,266
you just had
to switch products.
833
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,033
Like you'd like to keep
eating Twinkies,
834
00:46:02,066 --> 00:46:03,200
but you'd like them
835
00:46:03,233 --> 00:46:05,433
to be made with
organic ingredients.
836
00:46:05,466 --> 00:46:08,300
An organic Twinkie
is still a Twinkie.
837
00:46:08,333 --> 00:46:10,466
We are really looking at
swapping a few ingredients,
838
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,466
maybe changing the packaging,
839
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:16,033
or maybe changing where we get
one of the ingredients.
840
00:46:16,066 --> 00:46:19,266
But we don't really want
to change the larger system.
841
00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:23,100
But it's like, hey, don't
interfere with my fantasy.
842
00:46:23,133 --> 00:46:26,000
It's the way
that we construct
this double reality
843
00:46:26,033 --> 00:46:28,166
of it being not real:
844
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,966
knowing about
climate change,
845
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,933
but still seeing it
as not real.
846
00:46:32,966 --> 00:46:35,966
This is
a cultural practice
847
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,133
that kind of holds
everything in place
848
00:46:38,166 --> 00:46:41,033
and makes it
so we don't act.
849
00:46:41,066 --> 00:46:44,066
Just like with, you know,
counseling between individuals,
850
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:47,200
one of the first things you do
is learn that if you just blame,
851
00:46:47,233 --> 00:46:50,333
you're going to turn the other
party into a defensive entity,
852
00:46:50,366 --> 00:46:52,166
and the conversation's
going to go nowhere.
853
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,200
Mana.
854
00:46:54,333 --> 00:46:55,500
Some of us have good mana.
855
00:46:55,533 --> 00:46:57,466
Some of us
have not so good mana.
856
00:47:00,233 --> 00:47:01,966
A huge amount
of what we do today
857
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,100
is enjoy
something now
858
00:47:04,133 --> 00:47:06,100
while deferring the cost
into the future.
859
00:47:06,133 --> 00:47:08,233
I mean, that's how so many
of our systems work.
860
00:47:08,266 --> 00:47:10,100
That's how the system
of credit works.
861
00:47:11,533 --> 00:47:13,500
People seem to be
very unwilling
862
00:47:13,533 --> 00:47:17,166
to trade secular goods
for sacred goods.
863
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,966
So, for example,
if you were to ask
864
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,500
how much could I buy
your children off you for?
865
00:47:23,533 --> 00:47:26,233
Or how much payment
will you accept
to take away your freedom?
866
00:47:26,266 --> 00:47:29,500
Things which we see as sacred
we're not willing to trade
867
00:47:29,533 --> 00:47:32,266
for monetary
or material goods.
868
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,633
Our wealth
comes from energy.
869
00:47:38,666 --> 00:47:43,966
And so credit
becomes in effect
a lien on future energy.
870
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,333
When we take on debt,
871
00:47:45,366 --> 00:47:49,433
we are promising
to repay it with
future energy.
872
00:47:54,033 --> 00:47:55,700
Consequences of a default
873
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:58,400
or even a serious prospect
of default
874
00:47:58,433 --> 00:48:01,600
by the United States
are impossible to predict
875
00:48:01,633 --> 00:48:04,000
and awesome to contemplate.
876
00:48:06,366 --> 00:48:10,733
So the system of debt relies
on goodwill and on trust.
877
00:48:10,766 --> 00:48:13,033
It relies on the assumption
878
00:48:13,066 --> 00:48:15,700
that we will continue
to have goodwill and trust
879
00:48:15,733 --> 00:48:17,466
in the future.
880
00:48:17,500 --> 00:48:21,300
But if energy
becomes more difficult
to obtain in the future,
881
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:23,300
then the loans
we've taken out today
882
00:48:23,333 --> 00:48:26,033
are going to become harder
and harder to repay
883
00:48:26,066 --> 00:48:28,700
and the financial system
will simply collapse.
884
00:48:28,733 --> 00:48:30,733
As the financial system
collapses,
885
00:48:30,766 --> 00:48:33,266
food will no longer
be moved to the cities,
886
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:35,966
food will no longer
be moved across oceans,
887
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,100
goods will no longer
be moved across oceans,
888
00:48:38,133 --> 00:48:40,166
and there's a serious risk
889
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,066
that our entire societies
would collapse.
890
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:49,333
The United States has borrowed
a huge amount of money.
891
00:48:49,366 --> 00:48:51,633
And one has, of course,
taken it for granted
892
00:48:51,666 --> 00:48:54,100
that that money
will be repaid,
893
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:57,000
that the U.S. will actually
pay all of the money
894
00:48:57,033 --> 00:48:58,500
it has borrowed
from its citizens,
895
00:48:58,533 --> 00:49:01,466
from the Europeans,
and from the Chinese.
896
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:05,200
One-third of all the money
is borrowed from the Chinese.
897
00:49:05,233 --> 00:49:08,733
And who will have to pay?
898
00:49:08,766 --> 00:49:11,100
Well, it is, of course,
the young.
899
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:16,500
For 224 years,
the policy of Congress
900
00:49:16,533 --> 00:49:19,200
and every president
has been we pay our bills.
901
00:49:19,233 --> 00:49:22,500
We tend to go into debt
against the future.
902
00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:24,400
In a way, we're doing that
with the atmosphere.
903
00:49:24,433 --> 00:49:27,366
We're just drawing out
future credit
904
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,433
that we may have to pay back.
905
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,800
Then it's kind of a death
by a thousand cuts.
906
00:49:34,833 --> 00:49:37,133
We're going to change
the chemistry of the ocean.
907
00:49:37,166 --> 00:49:39,400
We're also changing
some circulation patterns
908
00:49:39,433 --> 00:49:42,333
of the ocean that affect
fisheries and things like that.
909
00:49:42,366 --> 00:49:45,200
Those have the potential
to really ripple
910
00:49:45,233 --> 00:49:48,566
through our whole,
our whole even social system.
911
00:49:50,566 --> 00:49:52,333
For every unit of heat
912
00:49:52,366 --> 00:49:55,266
that has gone into the
atmosphere from global warming,
913
00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:58,433
25 units have gone
into the ocean.
914
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,133
[ speaking Hawaiian ]
915
00:50:07,166 --> 00:50:09,066
Catch a wave, baby.
916
00:50:12,633 --> 00:50:14,400
Oh, yeah, feel this?
917
00:50:14,433 --> 00:50:15,700
This is what I'm talking
about right now,
918
00:50:15,733 --> 00:50:18,233
riding the wave.
Kainalu.
919
00:50:21,366 --> 00:50:23,366
There's a wave
in the heavens, the wind.
920
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,233
There's a wave
in the ocean, the wave.
921
00:50:25,266 --> 00:50:27,100
And there's a wave in
the earth, the lava.
922
00:50:27,133 --> 00:50:28,833
Kainalu.
923
00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,466
Be like the wave.
924
00:50:34,866 --> 00:50:37,433
Hup, huli!
925
00:51:05,666 --> 00:51:07,300
The fossil fuels that we burn,
926
00:51:07,333 --> 00:51:09,466
as they settle out
into the ocean,
927
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:12,166
are changing the chemistry
to the point that,
928
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,300
within the next 50 years,
929
00:51:14,333 --> 00:51:18,200
the ocean may not be able
to sustain plankton,
930
00:51:18,233 --> 00:51:20,433
the very base
of the food chain,
931
00:51:20,466 --> 00:51:24,300
because the acidity eats away
at the exoskeletons
932
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:27,600
of a lot of the different
types of plankton.
933
00:51:27,633 --> 00:51:30,300
So the fact that,
in the last few years,
934
00:51:30,333 --> 00:51:32,433
the effect that humans have had
935
00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:36,133
on the very ocean
that sustains us...
936
00:51:37,266 --> 00:51:41,233
is dramatic
to say the least.
937
00:51:50,333 --> 00:51:53,166
The Pacific Ocean
938
00:51:53,200 --> 00:52:00,566
is 68 million
939
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,266
square miles.
940
00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:06,733
68 million square miles.
941
00:52:06,766 --> 00:52:09,633
It covers up one-third
of our planet.
942
00:52:09,666 --> 00:52:13,433
It's over 20 times the size
of the United States.
943
00:52:15,633 --> 00:52:19,366
Chlorofluorocarbons
and other greenhouse gases
944
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,800
do not know
political borders.
945
00:52:21,833 --> 00:52:24,266
They just travel
around the world.
946
00:52:28,233 --> 00:52:29,833
There is no place
947
00:52:29,866 --> 00:52:33,266
that humans have not
left their impact.
948
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:36,333
And 99% of what
we buy and use today
949
00:52:36,366 --> 00:52:40,333
is obsolete and trash
six months from now.
950
00:52:40,366 --> 00:52:42,433
In every single trial
we did,
951
00:52:42,466 --> 00:52:44,833
3,000 miles
across the ocean,
952
00:52:44,866 --> 00:52:46,400
the one shocking thing
953
00:52:46,433 --> 00:52:49,433
I could bring back
to my friend is...
954
00:52:49,466 --> 00:52:51,300
there's not one place
in the ocean
955
00:52:51,333 --> 00:52:54,766
that just had ocean
and ocean creatures
left in it,
956
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,200
that plastic
is everywhere.
957
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:01,966
Somewhere along the way,
958
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,733
we have been smokescreened
and clouded by conveniences.
959
00:53:07,766 --> 00:53:10,600
So easy, convenient.
960
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,666
The ocean is downhill
from everything.
961
00:53:15,700 --> 00:53:17,266
There is no away.
962
00:53:23,933 --> 00:53:25,466
It's petroleum-based.
963
00:53:25,500 --> 00:53:27,866
It absorbs
other chemicals.
964
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:30,700
It releases
other chemicals.
965
00:53:30,733 --> 00:53:34,633
But it works around,
and it's not biodegradable.
966
00:53:34,666 --> 00:53:36,000
It doesn't break down
in time.
967
00:53:36,033 --> 00:53:37,466
It is photodegradable.
968
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:39,766
But all that means is
that wave action and light
969
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,000
break it down into smaller
and smaller bits.
970
00:53:42,033 --> 00:53:43,833
It doesn't go away.
971
00:53:43,866 --> 00:53:45,866
And then every night,
these little creatures,
972
00:53:45,900 --> 00:53:47,400
the myctophids,
little lantern fish,
973
00:53:47,433 --> 00:53:48,800
come up
from the deep water,
974
00:53:48,833 --> 00:53:50,900
they feed on what's
supposed to be
plankton,
975
00:53:50,933 --> 00:53:53,666
and then they make
their way back down
during the day.
976
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,500
Well, they're
feeding on plastic
977
00:53:56,533 --> 00:53:57,833
because that's
what's there--
978
00:53:57,866 --> 00:53:59,066
that's what's
everywhere--
979
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:00,466
And that literally,
980
00:54:00,500 --> 00:54:02,366
they make up about
50% of the biomass.
981
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,600
Everything eats them.
982
00:54:03,633 --> 00:54:05,766
We're plasticizing
the ocean creatures
983
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,000
from tiny to huge whales,
all the way through.
984
00:54:10,033 --> 00:54:12,633
And we're plasticizing them
from the inside out.
985
00:54:12,666 --> 00:54:14,633
For sometimes products
that we've maybe used
986
00:54:14,666 --> 00:54:16,366
for five minutes
or ten minutes,
987
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,900
the fact that
a plastic water bottle
988
00:54:18,933 --> 00:54:20,766
can last 200 years?
989
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:24,566
We can look at ways
to change,
990
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,366
but that's not enough.
991
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,600
Recycling? Great idea.
It's not enough.
992
00:54:29,633 --> 00:54:35,866
So then comes
the unfortunate part where...
993
00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:37,366
you run into reality.
994
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:40,066
That's an aspect
of self-deception
995
00:54:40,100 --> 00:54:41,966
we always
have to bear in mind.
996
00:54:42,833 --> 00:54:46,000
Whatever we put inside there,
we put inside us.
997
00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:53,533
Sure, global warming
is going on now,
998
00:54:53,566 --> 00:54:56,766
and the consequences
are not beautiful,
999
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,566
but somehow this damn thing
will be solved.
1000
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,100
Well, maybe somehow it will.
1001
00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:03,700
Any uncertainty--
1002
00:55:03,733 --> 00:55:06,133
and there's a lot of uncertainty
about the future--
1003
00:55:06,166 --> 00:55:10,733
it tends to engender
unreasonable optimism
1004
00:55:10,766 --> 00:55:13,700
about what will fill
that bit of uncertainty.
1005
00:55:13,733 --> 00:55:15,400
So right now,
if there's uncertainty
1006
00:55:15,433 --> 00:55:16,866
about our climate models
right now,
1007
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:21,400
people are going to latch
onto that uncertainty
1008
00:55:21,433 --> 00:55:22,500
and assume the best.
1009
00:55:22,533 --> 00:55:23,966
Optimism is a good thing.
1010
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,400
Too much optimism
is a bad thing.
1011
00:55:26,433 --> 00:55:28,733
Sometimes having
misperceptions,
1012
00:55:28,766 --> 00:55:31,466
having wrong images
about reality,
1013
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:33,466
seems to be adaptive.
1014
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:36,133
We believe we can put
more memory on a chip,
1015
00:55:36,166 --> 00:55:38,466
that we can build
a more efficient car,
1016
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:41,900
w can build a better house,
is a good thing.
1017
00:55:41,933 --> 00:55:45,166
But optimism can go too far
1018
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,133
when we think every
problem can be solved,
1019
00:55:48,166 --> 00:55:52,500
that there isn't really
a problem at all.
1020
00:55:52,533 --> 00:55:54,033
Probably the same thing
about the future,
1021
00:55:54,066 --> 00:55:55,533
which is probably
what I'm doing.
1022
00:55:55,566 --> 00:55:56,800
I'm assuming the best.
I'm assuming
1023
00:55:56,833 --> 00:55:59,666
that technology will be
able to fill these gaps
1024
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,500
in such a way
where we won't have
1025
00:56:01,533 --> 00:56:03,666
a total environmental
collapse
1026
00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:05,200
which will lead
to resource wars
1027
00:56:05,233 --> 00:56:07,033
and shrinking
of the human population.
1028
00:56:07,066 --> 00:56:08,200
System destruction means
1029
00:56:08,233 --> 00:56:11,500
that climate change
becomes so bad that...
1030
00:56:11,533 --> 00:56:13,500
large areas of the planet
1031
00:56:13,533 --> 00:56:18,966
become impossible
for humans to survive
1032
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,166
and agriculture
is destroyed
1033
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,133
and lots of people
die of starvation.
1034
00:56:22,166 --> 00:56:24,566
You know, these kinds
of things are part
of the models.
1035
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:25,933
We have to tell
these things.
1036
00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:27,733
If we do,
1037
00:56:27,766 --> 00:56:30,566
people say that we
are catastrophists,
which is fine,
1038
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,533
but we still have to
tell these things.
1039
00:56:32,566 --> 00:56:35,933
But the problem is that,
when we tell these things,
1040
00:56:35,966 --> 00:56:37,533
people don't react.
1041
00:56:37,566 --> 00:56:39,866
They're scared,
they tend to retreat
1042
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:42,566
and say, "No more of this.
It's so horrible,
1043
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,700
so awful that we don't
want to hear it."
1044
00:56:54,833 --> 00:56:57,733
It takes complex,
expensive technologies
1045
00:56:57,766 --> 00:57:01,933
and much investment of energy
to get energy.
1046
00:57:01,966 --> 00:57:05,600
Today we live in
the most complex societies
that have ever existed.
1047
00:57:05,633 --> 00:57:11,900
And we are far beyond the level
of complexity that can be
sustained through solar energy.
1048
00:57:11,933 --> 00:57:14,266
We really are reliant
on fossil fuels
1049
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:17,466
and to a certain extent
also on nuclear power.
1050
00:57:33,666 --> 00:57:38,533
You can show that
with many wars people start,
1051
00:57:38,566 --> 00:57:41,666
like my own people
have started terrible wars
1052
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:45,900
and brought great suffering
over humanity...
1053
00:57:45,933 --> 00:57:50,166
In the beginning, if you look
at the internal records,
1054
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,533
the idea is always,
"Aw, come on. Piece of cake.
1055
00:57:53,566 --> 00:57:54,866
"We'll just walk in there.
1056
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:58,800
After four days,
we'll have this done."
1057
00:57:58,833 --> 00:58:03,833
Then after four days into it,
there's a sudden surprise.
1058
00:58:03,866 --> 00:58:07,733
This is taking longer
than we thought.
1059
00:58:07,766 --> 00:58:10,766
Our technological
superiority doesn't help.
1060
00:58:11,833 --> 00:58:16,700
And I think to have the idea,
"Ah, one way,
1061
00:58:16,733 --> 00:58:19,766
"we're gonna find a way
with climate change.
1062
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,766
"These scientists
are gonna find something.
1063
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,666
"But only--if we only get
our act together soon.
1064
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:29,633
"We will manage.
1065
00:58:29,666 --> 00:58:34,100
Nothing was really that bad
in the past of mankind."
1066
00:58:34,133 --> 00:58:36,666
That is fully delusional.
1067
00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:39,233
And this growth
must continue
1068
00:58:39,266 --> 00:58:40,733
these next 10 years.
1069
00:58:40,766 --> 00:58:44,166
Those 13 million new jobs
must be created.
1070
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:45,566
And right now,
1071
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,833
the promise looks
very good.
1072
00:58:47,866 --> 00:58:50,533
With technology comes cost.
1073
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,133
This crop is bringing
the same money it brought
1074
00:58:55,166 --> 00:58:57,133
in the 1970s.
1075
00:58:57,166 --> 00:59:00,666
And in the early 1970s,
you could buy a new tractor
1076
00:59:00,700 --> 00:59:03,666
and a new pickup
for less than $10,000.
1077
00:59:03,700 --> 00:59:08,933
Now our tractors cost
$200,000 or more.
1078
00:59:08,966 --> 00:59:12,866
Our vehicles are costing
$40,000 to $50,000 apiece.
1079
00:59:12,900 --> 00:59:15,066
And we're bringing
this equipment out here.
1080
00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:16,933
We're spending that kind of
money to wear them out.
1081
00:59:16,966 --> 00:59:19,866
Many societies collapsed
in the past.
1082
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:25,166
And they collapsed for reasons
that we can see operating
in our own society today.
1083
00:59:38,266 --> 00:59:39,733
Like the Romans,
1084
00:59:39,766 --> 00:59:41,033
they never
really understood
1085
00:59:41,066 --> 00:59:43,933
that their military
system was based
1086
00:59:43,966 --> 00:59:46,166
on the support they had
from agriculture,
1087
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:50,300
and that means that,
if your land has been
ruined by erosion,
1088
00:59:50,333 --> 00:59:52,100
you cannot support
so many troops.
1089
00:59:52,133 --> 00:59:53,833
And if you cannot
support so many troops,
1090
00:59:53,866 --> 00:59:55,366
you cannot defend
the empire
1091
00:59:55,400 --> 01:00:00,066
or attack other countries
to rob them,
1092
01:00:00,100 --> 01:00:03,866
which was the way
Roman wealth was built,
1093
01:00:03,900 --> 01:00:05,000
by robbing the neighbors,
1094
01:00:05,033 --> 01:00:07,766
which is normal
in human histories.
1095
01:00:20,133 --> 01:00:21,700
You know, we can move.
1096
01:00:21,733 --> 01:00:23,766
I mean, if it becomes
too warm somewhere,
1097
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,400
we can move to a cooler place.
1098
01:00:25,433 --> 01:00:27,666
But most of us cannot move.
1099
01:00:38,033 --> 01:00:40,933
From what I understand,
in ancient Hawaii,
1100
01:00:40,966 --> 01:00:46,166
it was always about, uh...
1101
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,733
about the aloha.
1102
01:00:49,766 --> 01:00:54,200
Alo,meaning to be present,
yeah, face.
1103
01:00:54,233 --> 01:00:57,066
It also means to be
grounded to the earth.
1104
01:00:57,100 --> 01:01:00,066
And hais
the breath of life.
1105
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:05,033
So aloha is to offer
that breath of life.
1106
01:01:05,066 --> 01:01:08,400
So aloha is a way of life
for us as Hawaiians.
1107
01:01:08,433 --> 01:01:10,133
What you got to do is
kaheha.
1108
01:01:10,166 --> 01:01:13,233
You know, us Hawaiians,
we don't pray like this.
1109
01:01:13,266 --> 01:01:15,300
It wasn't till
the missionaries came,
1110
01:01:15,333 --> 01:01:16,766
make us guys pray like this.
1111
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,233
Us guys,
we pray like this.
1112
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,966
What we're witnessing now
is really the final phase
1113
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,866
of the great
European Enlightenment
1114
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:33,333
when all of the advances
of material acquisition,
1115
01:01:33,366 --> 01:01:37,800
of scientific progress,
of technological conquest,
1116
01:01:37,833 --> 01:01:41,466
are now collapsing in
on themselves.
1117
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:44,100
We have become
a planetary force.
1118
01:01:44,133 --> 01:01:50,033
This is as profound a transition
as civilization itself.
1119
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,500
Originally the U.S. ended,
you know, at Louisiana.
1120
01:02:00,533 --> 01:02:02,866
And then there was
the Louisiana Purchase.
1121
01:02:02,900 --> 01:02:07,266
And then we stole almost
half of Mexico.
1122
01:02:07,300 --> 01:02:12,400
And so there was always
this wild land out there
1123
01:02:12,433 --> 01:02:14,833
waiting for us to settle,
1124
01:02:14,866 --> 01:02:18,800
agriculturalize,
i.e., plant crops,
1125
01:02:18,833 --> 01:02:21,466
have herds of animals--
1126
01:02:21,500 --> 01:02:23,266
domesticated
instead of wild.
1127
01:02:23,300 --> 01:02:25,933
So bison get replaced
by cattle.
1128
01:02:25,966 --> 01:02:31,433
And then you build this
massive industrial system
1129
01:02:31,466 --> 01:02:34,233
in prime temperate-zone land
1130
01:02:34,266 --> 01:02:37,800
that you've cleared
the other inhabitants out of.
1131
01:02:37,833 --> 01:02:39,533
By deciding
that they didn't count,
1132
01:02:39,566 --> 01:02:42,233
that they were simply
part of the wildlife
of those continents,
1133
01:02:42,266 --> 01:02:49,000
why, it was free land, ready for
European populations to exploit.
1134
01:02:49,033 --> 01:02:51,200
That enabled us to imagine
1135
01:02:51,233 --> 01:02:56,133
that we had a vast increment
of carrying capacity
for homo sapiens.
1136
01:03:03,933 --> 01:03:05,533
I call that
the Age of Exuberance.
1137
01:03:05,566 --> 01:03:11,233
We exuberantly expanded into
this seemingly limitless
carrying capacity.
1138
01:03:11,266 --> 01:03:14,400
That was one of the reasons
why we became so great--
1139
01:03:14,433 --> 01:03:18,300
the receding frontier.
We always had the options
1140
01:03:18,333 --> 01:03:21,400
to make up for any current
problems, if you will,
1141
01:03:21,433 --> 01:03:24,066
by just settling more land.
1142
01:03:24,100 --> 01:03:28,266
Well, of course, at some point
you reach California.
1143
01:03:28,300 --> 01:03:31,866
There are no more Indians
to extinguish and so forth.
1144
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:40,633
We live in a culture now,
many of whose norms and values
1145
01:03:40,666 --> 01:03:45,466
and ideas were formed
by that Age of Exuberance,
1146
01:03:45,500 --> 01:03:47,866
by the myth of limitlessness.
1147
01:03:50,166 --> 01:03:53,633
This has instilled in us
a way of thinking
1148
01:03:53,666 --> 01:03:55,966
that we will always
have abundance,
1149
01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,666
that we will never be
constrained by resources.
1150
01:03:59,700 --> 01:04:01,400
Say to someone,
"Well, we're gonna run out
1151
01:04:01,433 --> 01:04:04,266
of iron or steel in
such and such a year,"
1152
01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:06,333
and they'll say,
"Oh, well, maybe we can get it
1153
01:04:06,366 --> 01:04:07,400
from the moon."
1154
01:04:07,433 --> 01:04:09,200
Well, Jesus God Almighty,
1155
01:04:09,233 --> 01:04:14,366
it costs a ton of money
to send two people to the moon,
1156
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:22,300
much less an iron ore
collecting expedition.
1157
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:27,100
Early after Hiroshima,
we began thinking,
1158
01:04:27,133 --> 01:04:29,600
ah, now that we're
in the Atomic Age,
there are no limits.
1159
01:04:29,633 --> 01:04:33,233
We've got all this new energy.
We can do all kinds of things.
1160
01:04:33,266 --> 01:04:38,666
And we didn't think
what are the limits
that are going to exist
1161
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,300
even in an age
of abundant energy?
1162
01:04:45,166 --> 01:04:47,666
We've become accustomed
to ignoring
1163
01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:49,600
or breaking through
the limits
1164
01:04:49,633 --> 01:04:51,366
to human progress.
1165
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:55,233
After all, progress
is what defines us.
1166
01:05:08,766 --> 01:05:13,100
But here's where we get
into total absurdities
in conventional economics,
1167
01:05:13,133 --> 01:05:15,000
with economists
literally telling us,
1168
01:05:15,033 --> 01:05:18,433
if we have enough money,
we don't need nature.
1169
01:05:19,533 --> 01:05:23,200
If I have a piece of technology
lying around in my apartment,
1170
01:05:23,233 --> 01:05:26,366
I use it,
whether I need to or not.
1171
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,700
It kind of begs out, "Hey, look,
I'm a piece of technology.
1172
01:05:29,733 --> 01:05:33,000
"I cost something...
1173
01:05:33,033 --> 01:05:34,500
Use me, please."
1174
01:05:34,533 --> 01:05:36,966
The same thing is true
in my opinion
1175
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:39,266
for amassing
large sets of armaments.
1176
01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:41,066
It's like technology
is sitting around
1177
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:43,400
and saying, "Hey, use me."
1178
01:05:43,433 --> 01:05:47,000
We're dreaming to think
people will change.
1179
01:05:47,033 --> 01:05:52,266
And that's in a way
why the hopes lie--
1180
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:56,000
the hopes and the fears
lie with something else.
1181
01:05:56,033 --> 01:05:58,700
That may be technology.
1182
01:05:58,733 --> 01:06:00,666
Barrier? What barrier?
1183
01:06:00,700 --> 01:06:03,500
We can geo-engineer
the planet.
1184
01:06:08,433 --> 01:06:11,966
We've transformed
every other environment.
1185
01:06:22,366 --> 01:06:25,466
Why can't we transform
the planet as a whole?
1186
01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:30,300
You name it, we can set
the planetary temperature
1187
01:06:30,333 --> 01:06:33,133
wherever you like.
That's the plan,
1188
01:06:33,166 --> 01:06:34,733
and it's a very serious plan
1189
01:06:34,766 --> 01:06:39,200
that quite a number of clever
and influential people
1190
01:06:39,233 --> 01:06:41,100
are pursuing right now.
1191
01:06:53,466 --> 01:06:56,533
Perhaps the foremost
geo-engineering technology
1192
01:06:56,566 --> 01:07:00,100
is known as
sulfate aerosol spraying.
1193
01:07:00,133 --> 01:07:01,733
And the idea is
to mimic the effects
1194
01:07:01,766 --> 01:07:03,500
of large volcanic eruptions.
1195
01:07:07,300 --> 01:07:08,766
And the way they would do it--
1196
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,500
there are a number of ideas.
1197
01:07:10,533 --> 01:07:14,266
One would be adapt
a fleet of aircraft
1198
01:07:14,300 --> 01:07:18,233
by fitting them
with special tanks and nozzles
1199
01:07:18,266 --> 01:07:20,833
and sending them up
on a regular basis
1200
01:07:20,866 --> 01:07:22,766
to spray sulfate aerosols
1201
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:26,400
or the precursor chemicals
into the stratosphere
1202
01:07:26,433 --> 01:07:29,500
and simply spray these chemicals
out behind them.
1203
01:07:29,533 --> 01:07:31,400
They would form
into sulfate particles.
1204
01:07:31,433 --> 01:07:35,433
And pretty soon, within days,
weeks, certainly months,
1205
01:07:35,466 --> 01:07:37,300
the Earth would be surrounded
1206
01:07:37,333 --> 01:07:41,533
by this fine haze
of sulfate particles.
1207
01:07:44,300 --> 01:07:46,433
This isn't solving
climate change.
1208
01:07:46,466 --> 01:07:49,200
It's merely suppressing
one of the symptoms.
1209
01:07:49,233 --> 01:07:52,133
Carbon dioxide
will still be present
1210
01:07:52,166 --> 01:07:53,900
and probably growing
in the atmosphere.
1211
01:07:53,933 --> 01:07:59,300
The oceans
will continue to acidify.
1212
01:07:59,333 --> 01:08:02,533
Who's gonna have their hand
on the global thermostat?
1213
01:08:04,466 --> 01:08:08,466
This is not a problem
with our societies.
1214
01:08:08,500 --> 01:08:11,800
It's not a social problem
that needs resolution.
1215
01:08:11,833 --> 01:08:14,200
It's a technological problem.
1216
01:08:14,233 --> 01:08:15,633
So geo-engineering
1217
01:08:15,666 --> 01:08:19,866
is really the techno fix
to end all techno fixes.
1218
01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:21,600
The question is,
1219
01:08:21,633 --> 01:08:25,333
will it be the techno fix
that ends the world?
1220
01:08:28,666 --> 01:08:31,566
What are we?
What are we becoming?
1221
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,600
When we start talking
about geo-engineering,
1222
01:08:34,633 --> 01:08:38,866
about taking control of
the Earth's system in totality,
1223
01:08:38,900 --> 01:08:43,533
we really are behaving
like the sorcerer's apprentice.
1224
01:08:43,566 --> 01:08:45,900
And we all know
what happens in the end.
1225
01:08:45,933 --> 01:08:48,533
The powers that we
attempt to master
1226
01:08:48,566 --> 01:08:53,133
are vastly more powerful
than we imagined.
1227
01:08:55,533 --> 01:08:59,366
It's just a pale blue dot,
as Carl Sagan called it,
1228
01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:01,933
floating out there in space.
1229
01:09:01,966 --> 01:09:04,433
We're trivial compared
to the universe.
1230
01:09:14,433 --> 01:09:17,666
The idea that there's
an inevitable progress
1231
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:19,733
and people are able
to learn from mistakes
1232
01:09:19,766 --> 01:09:23,833
and elevate everything
to a higher level...
1233
01:09:23,866 --> 01:09:28,166
is just a myth
we believe.
1234
01:09:29,933 --> 01:09:34,233
The water comes
from Pu'u Kukui,
from this mountain,
1235
01:09:34,266 --> 01:09:36,800
and it averages about
400 inches of rain.
1236
01:09:36,833 --> 01:09:39,933
It is considered one
of the wettest spots
on the planet today.
1237
01:09:39,966 --> 01:09:41,500
Probably
the wettest spot.
1238
01:09:41,533 --> 01:09:43,966
See, the streams
are all drying up.
1239
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,700
And these waters
are diverted
1240
01:09:46,733 --> 01:09:48,000
to the sugarcane fields
1241
01:09:48,033 --> 01:09:50,833
and to all the hotels
and businesses
1242
01:09:50,866 --> 01:09:51,966
and the homes.
1243
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:54,433
There's no more water
for taro.
1244
01:09:54,466 --> 01:09:58,933
And they're trying
to tell us guys
that our taro needs help...
1245
01:09:58,966 --> 01:10:02,266
we need GMOs to help us out.
1246
01:10:02,300 --> 01:10:04,600
[ scoffs ]
We don't need no help.
1247
01:10:04,633 --> 01:10:07,666
We need water.
1248
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:10,966
It's not gonna be us
local people that will
be farming on the earth.
1249
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,366
It will basically be
a middle to upperclass
population
1250
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:16,766
that will be able
to be on those lands,
1251
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,000
which is fine,
1252
01:10:18,033 --> 01:10:21,500
but there are people
that don't have.
1253
01:10:21,533 --> 01:10:24,533
And we need to find ways
that we can both have
1254
01:10:24,566 --> 01:10:26,533
and both be happy
and coexist
1255
01:10:26,566 --> 01:10:30,966
and be able to manage
our resources
at the same time.
1256
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:35,733
200 years ago, every individual
was required to ask
1257
01:10:35,766 --> 01:10:38,533
in almost everything that you
did, every action you took,
1258
01:10:38,566 --> 01:10:40,766
every step you took,
you were required to ask:
1259
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,466
Is this sustainable?
1260
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:45,566
Because if it wasn't
sustainable, you had to stop.
1261
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,533
Only the rich could afford
to behave as if the world--
1262
01:10:48,566 --> 01:10:50,033
as if sustainability
didn't matter.
1263
01:10:50,066 --> 01:10:51,733
Everyone else had to
build that in
1264
01:10:51,766 --> 01:10:53,966
to everything they did.
1265
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,900
And that was a mark
of a person who survived,
1266
01:10:56,933 --> 01:10:59,333
because if you didn't pay
attention to sustainability,
1267
01:10:59,366 --> 01:11:00,600
you died.
1268
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:06,033
It's said
that there is no city
1269
01:11:06,066 --> 01:11:09,366
more than three days away
from a revolution.
1270
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,400
And that's because
of food supply.
1271
01:11:11,433 --> 01:11:14,400
Our industries have perfected
just-in-time delivery
1272
01:11:14,433 --> 01:11:19,000
so that everything is produced
and delivered to industries
1273
01:11:19,033 --> 01:11:21,633
and to your stores
just as it's needed.
1274
01:11:21,666 --> 01:11:23,100
No one keeps stockpiles
anymore
1275
01:11:23,133 --> 01:11:25,033
because it's too expensive
to keep stockpiles.
1276
01:11:25,066 --> 01:11:26,766
It's inefficient.
1277
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,766
But what this means is that our
production and delivery systems
1278
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,900
are highly vulnerable
to disruption.
1279
01:11:34,133 --> 01:11:36,533
Now it climbs up
the East Coast.
1280
01:11:36,566 --> 01:11:40,500
And then it veers in
as it meets a storm
1281
01:11:40,533 --> 01:11:44,000
coming down from Canada.
1282
01:11:44,033 --> 01:11:47,066
And it was appalling.
1283
01:11:47,100 --> 01:11:48,766
There's no heat.
1284
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,566
There's no electricity.
You cannot read.
1285
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,933
There's no television.
There's no Internet.
1286
01:11:55,633 --> 01:11:58,966
You take a double shot of
whatever you take a shot of
1287
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,700
and you climb into bed
at 8:30
1288
01:12:00,733 --> 01:12:02,700
and pray your way
through the night.
1289
01:12:02,733 --> 01:12:05,700
Future superstorms
will be even more damaging
1290
01:12:05,733 --> 01:12:08,433
than Hurricane Sandy.
1291
01:12:08,466 --> 01:12:10,133
Hurricane Sandy was,
in some respects,
1292
01:12:10,166 --> 01:12:13,600
a preview of coming attractions.
1293
01:12:19,433 --> 01:12:23,033
We are so heavily
dependent on electricity.
1294
01:12:23,066 --> 01:12:26,500
Our lives--I don't want
to say are deformed by it,
1295
01:12:26,533 --> 01:12:28,900
but they're certainly
organized by it
1296
01:12:28,933 --> 01:12:30,033
and dependent on it,
1297
01:12:30,066 --> 01:12:32,733
so if you suddenly
take it away...
1298
01:12:32,766 --> 01:12:33,766
Whoa!
1299
01:12:36,133 --> 01:12:41,500
We are basically under
the control of totally
unhuman systems.
1300
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:48,066
And everybody doesn't
want to step up
1301
01:12:48,100 --> 01:12:49,166
and say, "You know what?
1302
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,566
We might have made
a slight mistake."
1303
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,900
No, sir. We're just
gonna keep stumbling on.
1304
01:12:54,933 --> 01:12:57,533
Their milk? It comes
from the grocery store.
1305
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,766
Their meat? It comes
from the grocery store.
1306
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,966
Their clothes?
They come from the mall.
1307
01:13:05,633 --> 01:13:07,766
People just don't
have any concept
1308
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,866
of how much energy
it takes to grow food.
1309
01:13:12,033 --> 01:13:13,833
All of these challenges
are going to require
1310
01:13:13,866 --> 01:13:16,433
increasingly complexity
and costliness
1311
01:13:16,466 --> 01:13:19,566
at the same time
that our energy basis
1312
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:24,566
for funding complexity
is decreasing.
1313
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,666
It's inevitable that
our societies in the future
1314
01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:28,633
will become less wealthy.
1315
01:13:32,133 --> 01:13:35,233
We will be unable to grow
in complexity any further,
1316
01:13:35,266 --> 01:13:39,766
and that means unable to solve
the problems of the future.
1317
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,666
Republican and Democratic
presidents
1318
01:13:41,700 --> 01:13:43,466
and Treasury secretaries alike
1319
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:45,466
have universally understood
the importance
1320
01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:47,866
of protecting one
of our most precious assets:
1321
01:13:47,900 --> 01:13:49,900
the full faith and credit
of the United States.
1322
01:13:51,766 --> 01:13:54,800
If major nations were
to default on their debts,
1323
01:13:54,833 --> 01:13:58,033
this would cause the credit
system to freeze up.
1324
01:13:58,066 --> 01:13:59,766
Trust would evaporate
1325
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,700
and credit would evaporate.
1326
01:14:01,733 --> 01:14:04,533
And this whole system
relying on credit
1327
01:14:04,566 --> 01:14:07,666
would then become
impossible to sustain.
1328
01:14:10,233 --> 01:14:12,866
I often use the metaphor
that, for me,
1329
01:14:12,900 --> 01:14:16,133
life is like riding
in a train
1330
01:14:16,166 --> 01:14:17,833
where you're facing
backwards.
1331
01:14:17,866 --> 01:14:21,500
You always see reality
after it's passed you.
1332
01:14:21,533 --> 01:14:24,566
It's like our biological past
haunts us,
1333
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,700
and we're just unable to see
the responsibility we have
1334
01:14:28,733 --> 01:14:31,900
for all the future generations
to be born on this planet.
1335
01:14:31,933 --> 01:14:35,933
And we will also see how
the whole development
1336
01:14:35,966 --> 01:14:37,233
slides from our control,
1337
01:14:37,266 --> 01:14:41,033
because it actually
is beyond our control.
1338
01:14:52,766 --> 01:14:54,533
Certainly there are
aspects of our way of life
1339
01:14:54,566 --> 01:14:56,800
that we don't want to lose.
1340
01:14:56,833 --> 01:15:00,000
In the past, people
might have a life expectancy
1341
01:15:00,033 --> 01:15:01,533
of about 40 years.
1342
01:15:01,566 --> 01:15:04,000
And out of every five
children born,
1343
01:15:04,033 --> 01:15:07,000
probably three of them would
have died of childhood diseases.
1344
01:15:07,033 --> 01:15:09,866
We don't want to go back
to that way of life.
1345
01:15:11,933 --> 01:15:15,033
So I don't know: How do you
manage population growth?
1346
01:15:15,066 --> 01:15:16,566
I don't know.
1347
01:15:16,600 --> 01:15:18,566
How do you make it rain?
1348
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,166
A collapse is too gruesome
to contemplate
1349
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,066
and it's something that
we don't want to experience.
1350
01:15:27,100 --> 01:15:30,800
We would have a situation where
hundreds of millions of people,
1351
01:15:30,833 --> 01:15:34,200
perhaps billions of people,
would die from starvation,
1352
01:15:34,233 --> 01:15:36,133
from disease, from conflict.
1353
01:15:36,166 --> 01:15:37,900
And this would all happen
within a period
1354
01:15:37,933 --> 01:15:40,066
of perhaps
two to three months.
1355
01:16:03,633 --> 01:16:06,000
If you walk through the pasture
every day
1356
01:16:06,033 --> 01:16:09,200
observing the grass
and the birds and the wildlife,
1357
01:16:09,233 --> 01:16:13,966
you become pretty attuned
to the situation.
1358
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,800
We're living in
a delicate deal
1359
01:16:16,833 --> 01:16:20,766
and in the big picture
of things,
1360
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,100
if I manage this ranch
for 70 years,
1361
01:16:23,133 --> 01:16:27,233
it's just a minute particle
in the big picture of time.
1362
01:16:27,266 --> 01:16:31,200
And it's my goal to take
care of it and pass it on.
1363
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:37,933
[ speaking Hawaiian ]
1364
01:16:37,966 --> 01:16:40,400
Aloha.
[ continues in Hawaiian ]
1365
01:16:40,433 --> 01:16:42,000
The everlasting breath.
1366
01:16:42,033 --> 01:16:48,833
The leaf, the lau
that sustains us...
1367
01:16:48,866 --> 01:16:50,833
that sees all the changes,
1368
01:16:50,866 --> 01:16:53,166
and yet still growing
in between the freeways
1369
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:54,733
and the development.
1370
01:16:56,033 --> 01:16:59,800
So easily we forget about
where our food comes from,
1371
01:16:59,833 --> 01:17:01,666
where our water comes from.
1372
01:17:01,700 --> 01:17:04,000
That's what it is,
as Hawaiians.
1373
01:17:04,033 --> 01:17:06,000
That's a very sacred saying.
1374
01:17:06,033 --> 01:17:09,400
No e au,
it's a wise saying.
1375
01:17:09,433 --> 01:17:11,133
The ainais always chief.
1376
01:17:13,733 --> 01:17:16,200
Our time...
so short.
1377
01:17:17,866 --> 01:17:20,766
Once the ocean gets too acidic,
we're done.
1378
01:17:23,066 --> 01:17:25,133
The thing that is important
in one's own life
1379
01:17:25,166 --> 01:17:29,666
is to face the facts
and not to judge oneself.
1380
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,800
We hear the calling,
a lot of us.
1381
01:17:34,833 --> 01:17:37,166
If not,
we're not gonna survive.
1382
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,766
We're not gonna
make the journey.
1383
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:41,866
We're not.
Our canoe will sink.
1384
01:17:43,133 --> 01:17:45,800
And that's how we look
at the Islands,
1385
01:17:45,833 --> 01:17:47,200
that we are in a canoe,
1386
01:17:47,233 --> 01:17:50,866
that we have to make decisions
based on everybody else.
1387
01:17:52,766 --> 01:17:56,166
The core of all morality,
the first step:
1388
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,800
To make the decision,
1389
01:17:57,833 --> 01:18:01,966
I will at least try
not to fool myself.
1390
01:18:06,133 --> 01:18:08,900
Beyond the horizon,
the unknown:
1391
01:18:08,933 --> 01:18:10,800
That's where
we all come from.
1392
01:18:10,833 --> 01:18:13,366
And we live in what we
call ao,or the light.
1393
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,400
We live in the ao.
1394
01:18:15,433 --> 01:18:21,166
And our time will sunrise
and then our time will sunset.
1395
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:22,833
And so what we gonna do?
1396
01:18:22,866 --> 01:18:24,033
What are we gonna
leave behind
1397
01:18:24,066 --> 01:18:27,166
for our generations,
our descendants?
1398
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,166
What they gonna say about us?
1399
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:42,866
How do we want to be
remembered?
1400
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:44,966
We are all part of this.
1401
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:57,000
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1402
01:20:06,133 --> 01:20:11,333
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1403
01:20:11,333 --> 01:20:16,133
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01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:32,900
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