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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:24,800 I thought it was an earthquake actually and  then I rushed out. I'd looked up and I seen   2 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,600 the engine coming down and they were away 50  50 yards from my house and the planes away   3 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:39,600 the other end of town. Oh my god, it's terrible.  Then sparks and then the whole thing went dumb. 4 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:48,719 In February 1990 with some others from the  UK family's group. Um I met the American   5 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:53,200 President's Commission on Aviation Security  and Terrorism at the American Embassy. That   6 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:02,000 was in February 1990. And at the end  of that meeting, after we'd broken up,   7 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:11,439 one of the members of the commission said to  me, "Your government and ours know exactly   8 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:19,439 what happened, but they're never going to  tell." In the beginning, a hand, a bag,   9 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:33,920 and a baggage tag. And a radio that plays  cassettes and has its own flip side, a bomb. 10 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Most of what we read in the papers is true,  but no official party is going to tell you   11 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:45,120 what's true and what isn't true. For three  years, the United States and Scotland have   12 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:51,359 been conducting one of the most exhaustive  and complex investigations in history. Today,   13 00:01:51,359 --> 00:01:59,039 we are announcing an indictment in the case.  We charge that two Libyan officials acting as   14 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:05,360 operatives of the Libyan Intelligence Service  along with other co-conspirators planted and   15 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:13,039 detonated the bomb that destroyed Panama  Flight 103. At this moment, Lord Frasier,   16 00:02:13,039 --> 00:02:19,039 chief prosecutor of Scotland, is announcing  parallel charges. I have just telephoned   17 00:02:19,039 --> 00:02:25,519 some of the families of those murdered in Panama  Flight 103 to inform them and the organizations of   18 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:32,960 survivors that this indictment has been returned.  Their loss has been ever present in our minds.   19 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:41,599 to one of my family when he going to the airport  harani give him one tricod from his sister he said   20 00:02:41,599 --> 00:02:49,439 that's remember it from my sister don't forget  the t recorder and he go in the side of him with   21 00:02:49,439 --> 00:02:54,879 him like bodyguard to the airport that's what  happened with him and give him little picod fix   22 00:02:54,879 --> 00:03:01,359 everything for him here in Germany and give it  to him to the airport and he don't know about 23 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:08,000 Around coolen 24 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,919 peak 25 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:19,839 the mist is sailing 26 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:28,400 the b sheer 27 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:36,560 not of willing. 28 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:43,039 But my blue 29 00:03:43,039 --> 00:03:48,159 with so 30 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:53,680 dreaming 31 00:03:53,680 --> 00:04:04,719 for him that will never return. I was driving  along the road there. They're just pieces of   32 00:04:04,719 --> 00:04:11,840 something lying on the road and nets and a bag.  And when I got out of the car to shift them,   33 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:17,920 I found well, it was a luggage, a hold. And uh  chucked everything off the road to get past. And   34 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:24,319 I drove back up to the farm. And when I got here,  there was nobody in the house at all. The dog,   35 00:04:24,319 --> 00:04:29,199 they were waiting the road. I'll found it  later on. But when I got back, there was shoes,   36 00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:35,199 people shoes, and a burst aerosol can. I can  remember the m it was spraying about in the   37 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:42,159 doorstep in front of the house. Later on, a fella  landed in for the I don't know if it was mountain   38 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:48,720 rescue. It was a bloke with a dog and explained  what had happened that a plane had crashed. So,   39 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,600 I went out with him. I think it was about 2:00  in the morning when I got back. And he had the   40 00:04:53,600 --> 00:05:00,000 dog maybe looking for well somebody thinking might  be somebody still alive or something or whatever.   41 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:07,439 I could really see we're finding great big bits  of airplane and just seemed to be hundreds of   42 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:11,680 suitcases. There wouldn't have be, but it  seemed like it at the time. And also a lot   43 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,360 of Christmas presents that I Yeah, they were  perfect. And there was nothing wrong with a   44 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:26,000 wrapping on them or anything. I think the worst  was I picked a we picked a present up and it   45 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,279 uh on the card in the outside it said sorry  she couldn't have be back for Christmas and I   46 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:38,000 kind of just mind what it was but that really was  quite sickening to think that the lassie that was   47 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:43,279 sending it would well she'd never be back. Jane  and I were both uh at home in Bronze Grove and   48 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:48,719 um I was actually in my study doing a kind of  family calendar with a picture for each month   49 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,200 for various people for Christmas and Jane called  me through because she'd heard on the television   50 00:05:53,199 --> 00:05:59,360 about an air crash. And uh first my first reaction  was that it couldn't be anything to do with Flora   51 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:03,920 because I thought she would have been uh out in  Mid-Atlantic by that time. And in fact, of course,   52 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:08,240 we didn't know that the plane had been delayed a  little bit. But I just came through and we watched   53 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:13,920 these dreadful pictures of the little town of  Locker being in flames and and at that time   54 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:20,160 I I think I I felt it wasn't Flora's plane. The  plane did come down actually where houses were.   55 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:25,280 Houses are not there now. It's just a bit cr where  the houses used to be. There was debris falling   56 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:30,319 everywhere and I thought the whole roof was going  to cave in and I us looked out the back window and   57 00:06:30,319 --> 00:06:38,959 all I could see was fires starting up, you know,  just right over the whole countryside was blaze.   58 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:47,199 I knew Flora had left that evening for the States  where she had gone to stay with her boyfriend over   59 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:54,879 Christmas. And um I switched on the television  just for something to look at while I made the   60 00:06:54,879 --> 00:07:03,199 supper really. And there was this news flash  that there had been a crash in Scotland of a   61 00:07:03,199 --> 00:07:14,319 Panama plane. Well, immediately my heart began to  thump because I knew she was traveling by Panama.   62 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:21,439 I was sort of gripped with that icy cold fear  that I think every mother has when her children   63 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:28,800 are in danger. It's just the most incredible  devastation. It's just uh it's unbelievable.   64 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:37,439 It's it's impossible, I think, to just to  even imagine such an extraordinary tragedy. 65 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:45,840 We had an aircraft going out that night, a  727 which was taking various members of our   66 00:07:45,839 --> 00:07:54,239 company up to locker and also uh we had a private  aircraft to deal with uh which was um the American   67 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:00,879 ambassador who was going up to the site. As far as  I can recall, there were about 40 people excluding   68 00:08:00,879 --> 00:08:08,639 crew on board, of which I would estimate uh 50%  of those were known to me as Panama people. Uh   69 00:08:08,639 --> 00:08:16,959 the others I I wasn't aware of their affiliations  at all. on the night uh I was started to set up   70 00:08:16,959 --> 00:08:24,879 a control room and by about between 11:00 and  midnight we actually had a member of the FBI in   71 00:08:24,879 --> 00:08:32,240 the the office uh who came into came in introduced  himself to me and sat down and uh and just most of   72 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:38,879 the night observing what was happening. the  local police force Duncan Gallery. Uh they   73 00:08:38,879 --> 00:08:48,960 were concerned at the swarms of Americans fiddling  with bodies and shall we say tampering with those   74 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:54,560 things that the police were carefully checking  themselves. I'm not pretending that they said   75 00:08:54,559 --> 00:09:02,639 they are from the FBI or the CIA. uh they were  just Americans who seem to have arrived extremely   76 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:10,480 quickly on the scene. I was asked to go to various  locations in and around Lockerby to look for   77 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:17,600 bodies. At first it was in the early hours of the  morning in very high winds about 30 40 mph ground   78 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:24,560 level. When we'd uh gone down one large field  and identified about 10 bodies, we thought we   79 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,239 ought to retrace our steps and put some form of  identification on them. And so uh the only thing   80 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:37,600 I had with me was a a block of small white labels  and 100 or so plastic gloves which I carry at all   81 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:45,120 times as part of my usual police certain duties.  And so we or I put a code on everyone DCF being my   82 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:52,799 initials DCF1 right through to 58 or the bodies  in that particular sector. I learned later that   83 00:09:52,799 --> 00:09:57,599 when the bodies were taken to the motory all the  labels which I had put on them had been removed   84 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:03,040 with the exception of two and those two labels  were identified on photographs later on. But for   85 00:10:03,039 --> 00:10:08,159 all the rest every other one had been removed  and disregarded. Very strange people popped out   86 00:10:08,159 --> 00:10:14,480 the woodwork very early on. Within a matter of 3  hours, there were American accents heard in the   87 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:22,960 town. Over that night, there were large numbers by  which I mean 20, 25, 30 people arrived. The next   88 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:30,879 day, as somebody commented at the time, that's  subtle. There was a whole bevy of uh people walked   89 00:10:30,879 --> 00:10:35,919 down the main street with blue wind cheaters and  baseball hats with FBI on them. But there were a   90 00:10:35,919 --> 00:10:41,279 lot of other Americans in the town over the first  12 hours that weren't wearing FBI wind cheaters.   91 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:49,679 I don't know who they are. I know who some of  them were, and they certainly weren't tourists. 92 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:56,479 In the morning, when more cameras have arrived, it  is the turn of the dignitaries, a junior prince,   93 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:02,000 and the prime minister herself. There are bits  and pieces of the aircraft and I've spoken to an   94 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:08,320 accident investigator whose first impressions  were absolutely stunned and he'd never come   95 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:14,720 across something quite as big as disaster as this.  I've also been up to the hill to see the cockpit   96 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:21,200 area and that I think is a high priority to the  investigators to uh see if they can find anything   97 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:28,320 from there. It is very moving indeed because  there are a lot of personal possessions that   98 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:36,720 you can see scattered about. Speculation is not  evidence and they are systematically obtaining   99 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:47,040 the evidence and systematically searching  the hills around further people and evidence.   100 00:11:47,039 --> 00:11:53,439 I suppose that statistically something like this  has got to happen at some stage on a town. It is   101 00:11:53,440 --> 00:12:00,000 most sad and unfortunate that it's had to happen  to Locker and of course so close to Christmas. The   102 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:05,919 mountain rescue teams with dogs from Free North  and South Yorkshire Cumbria were the first to   103 00:12:05,919 --> 00:12:13,599 scour the terrain. Members of rescue teams on the  site within 2 hours found Americans already there.   104 00:12:14,159 --> 00:12:20,799 The police and military are still prohibited by  the British official secrets act from speaking.   105 00:12:20,799 --> 00:12:26,079 This helicopter was flying overflying the area  and uh a chappie was looking at it at me out   106 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:32,320 of a telescopic sight of a rifle which is a you  know probably some secret service man or other.   107 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:37,680 It was a white white unmarked helicopter for all  intent and purpose civilian helicopter. almost had   108 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,559 an opening door and they sat in the doorway just  scanning the landscape with this telescopic sight   109 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:47,919 on the rifle. Those helicopters landing just even  behind me here in the field. They were landing   110 00:12:47,919 --> 00:12:53,919 quite regular. In fact, there was another one  landed in the a tiny wee paddock in front of the   111 00:12:53,919 --> 00:13:01,120 house. It was they were constant. They were every  day for days on end they were flying over. It was   112 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:11,039 thought that it was very odd and strange that so  many people uh should be involved in moving bodies   113 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:17,279 uh looking at luggage uh who were not members of  the investigating force. What were they looking   114 00:13:17,279 --> 00:13:26,480 for so carefully? You know, this was not just uh  searching desperately uh for loved ones. It was   115 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:35,200 far more than that. It was careful examination  of baggage and indeed bodies. Later on there   116 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,560 was some Americans. I was speaking to them on  top of the hill. I was checking my sheep on   117 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:44,079 the hill at the time and asked us not to go up  near this we wood on the top because so I just   118 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:49,040 presumed they were looking for something  but I just steered clear the way. I heard   119 00:13:49,039 --> 00:13:55,839 a story about two suitcases full of money on the  other plane but of course I didn't see anything. 120 00:14:00,639 --> 00:14:06,159 Well, the cockpit was like the head of some  mortally wounded bird. It was instantly   121 00:14:06,159 --> 00:14:11,839 recognizable as a cockpit. And as daylight  broke on the first full day of the disaster,   122 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:18,480 the bodies were in an arc right around the  the hills that form the sort of amphitheater   123 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,680 here. And they were well spread out. It  was soft ground. A lot of them had made   124 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:29,839 indentations and even a year afterwards the  animals wouldn't graze where the bodies had   125 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:43,840 landed. It was if they knew that something very  terrible and yet very sacred had happened there. 126 00:14:51,919 --> 00:14:58,719 I rang up um a number of times and said who I was  and eventually I established a good relationship   127 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:06,160 over the telephone with one of the doctors who  was doing the postmortems and um it was he who   128 00:15:06,159 --> 00:15:12,639 arranged for me to see her body. I think very much  counter to the instructions he'd been given. But   129 00:15:12,639 --> 00:15:18,080 um he undertook to have the body put somewhere  where I could see it and identify it and he was   130 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:27,280 extremely kind to me when I when I went in to see  the body. Uh one thing I wanted was a lock of hair   131 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:34,000 and uh again it's one of those vivid memories he  went away and got a pair of scissors got me a lock   132 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,600 of hair. There was no official announcement. The  first seven bodies were released to be taken by   133 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:46,960 road south to London for onward transportation  to the relatives. And I'll never forget it. All   134 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:53,120 of a sudden, the main street in Lockerby was full  of people. They were standing three deep on the   135 00:15:53,120 --> 00:16:02,399 pavements. Not a word was said. They stood quietly  to bid farewell, to pay their respect to seven   136 00:16:02,399 --> 00:16:10,079 dead victims. And as I say, it was one of the most  moving things I've ever seen in 40 odd years. It   137 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:16,879 was it was very beautiful and it was proper. We  got a message, I think about 6:00 that night to   138 00:16:16,879 --> 00:16:24,159 see that the first bodies were being taken out  of the town um about 8:00. So if we possible,   139 00:16:24,159 --> 00:16:29,519 could we go down the street to show respect? So  there was a lot of people. I don't really don't   140 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:35,600 maybe two or 300 of the locals lying the streets.  And when the first lorry came around the town hall   141 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:44,159 with the bodies in it, it was really very very  upsetting to see it going away. Yes, it was nice   142 00:16:44,159 --> 00:16:50,879 that they were going home, but um just sad that  they had to go home in such circumstances. We   143 00:16:50,879 --> 00:16:58,799 thank you for the love that our dead brothers and  sisters poured out in their life on earth. And we   144 00:16:58,799 --> 00:17:08,720 recall with faith the words of St. Paul, love  does not come to an end. Father, we thank you   145 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:26,559 for that indestructible love which came into our  lives and will remain with us forever. Amen. Amen. 146 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:33,519 Your brother will rise again. I know that he  will rise again, said Martha. Do you believe   147 00:17:33,519 --> 00:17:42,400 this? I do, she answered. I now believe that you  are the Messiah, the Son of God, who is to come   148 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:50,080 into the world. Thanks be to God for his gospel.  And so for these dead that had fallen out of the   149 00:17:50,079 --> 00:17:58,000 sky into Scotland, a first memorial service,  a winter January morning, Martha's story read   150 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:05,839 in the presence of the Iron Lady. Over the motor  flyway, on the road to Loch Maben, in the village   151 00:18:05,839 --> 00:18:15,039 graveyard, all death is local. On the stones,  there is even the street. High Street for instance   152 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:23,359 where a Roger for instance died. Generation  buried with generation, grandmother with grandson,   153 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:33,199 father of stillborn daughter. But there also are  other deaths recorded here. Wanderers away at war,   154 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:40,559 away earning and saving. Brought home,  sent home from Gallipoli, killed in action.   155 00:18:40,559 --> 00:18:53,359 Gaza dead of wounds. South and East Africa,  Medicine Hat, Province of Alberta and Kolkata. 156 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:04,080 So they know that what these other dead  had and owned is all that will ever be   157 00:19:04,079 --> 00:19:16,480 left of what they were, and that it  must all be folded up and put away. 158 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:24,480 1993 before the fifth anniversary,  still on offer, a $4 million reward   159 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:30,640 for terrorists. After the third anniversary,  two governments had issued indictments against   160 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:40,800 two Libyans. Why is a government then now  paying for this newspaper advertisement? 161 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:45,119 The third, the fourth, and now a fifth memorial.   162 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,679 The governments seem to hope the  memorials will go on and on and on,   163 00:19:49,680 --> 00:20:02,400 year after year until all that is left is a  fading memory clanging in a Belfrey tower. 164 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:11,519 Why has a full independent inquiry  been consistently refused? Why after   165 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:23,359 5 years have no real answers been  supplied? Elia Stratus, Anthony Swan,   166 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:37,599 Flora Swire, James Smith, Mary Smith,  Geraldine Stevenson, Hannah Stevenson,   167 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:57,279 John Stevenson, Rachel Stevenson, Charlotte  Stinette, Michael Stinette, Stacy Stinette. 168 00:20:57,279 --> 00:21:02,639 Over five years, a very disturbing  story has emerged about warnings. A   169 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,520 wellrespected international journalist,  David Yalop, had interviewed Abu Nidal,   170 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:12,160 who had warned him that there was going  to be an attack on an American airliner.   171 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Yalop flew immediately back to London and  notified the British authorities. MI6 Abu Nidal,   172 00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:28,319 mastermind of the Rome and Vienna airport  massacres, now trying to stop more killing. 173 00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:36,000 I was in Libya um to interview Gaddafi and Abu  Nudal and a group of other people. I'd had a   174 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:44,160 conversation with a man called Brian Crosier who's  a an asset for the CIA and MI6 and I'd been asked   175 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:51,600 by him to ask three or four specific questions  to Nidal. Nidal had told me that he'd been he   176 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:58,719 was being put under great pressure by the Syrians  to reactivate against an American target. I typed   177 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:05,120 up uh an eight-page report which I have a copy  of here in which I talk about the pressure being   178 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:12,239 put on Nidal by both Syria and Iraq at that time  to resume terror tactics and I then elaborated   179 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:19,359 beyond the report specifically with regard to the  pressure from Syria um and to a potential American   180 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:25,679 target. Uh I I was insistent that this information  this was by the way given not just to Crosia but   181 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:34,080 to a senior member of MI6 uh by myself um that  this should be shared with the CIA and should   182 00:22:34,079 --> 00:22:41,439 be shared with them immediately. After that there  was a warning to the American embassy in Helsinki.   183 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:47,920 Frighteningly specific. A woman would carry a bomb  on board an American airliner at Frankfurt heading   184 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:54,480 for New York. that was circulated again through  Interpol and again through the American State   185 00:22:54,480 --> 00:23:01,200 Department warning system. In the buildup prior to  the tragedy, there were a number of warnings that   186 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:08,720 came out through the FAA and uh various other  agencies. The particular one that uh was of   187 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:17,440 interest to me uh was the Helsinki warning which  I first uh had knowledge of um I believe it was on   188 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:25,440 the morning of the 8th of December. We did indeed  receive on December 9th uh an advisory uh based   189 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:31,440 on an untested source in terms of reliability.  That information was disseminated throughout this   190 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:37,279 embassy and we advised all appropriate British  authorities including all American carriers. I'd   191 00:23:37,279 --> 00:23:41,519 received a TX. I was in Brussels actually on the  morning and I'd received a tell from headquarters   192 00:23:41,519 --> 00:23:46,879 that I was to go to Helsinki and that I was to get  further information from my colleague in Frankfurt   193 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:51,680 who I telephoned and then subsequently came back  to London and made arrangements to travel to   194 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:57,360 Helsinki later that day. It was an unidentified  caller that apparently made a phone call to   195 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:03,439 our embassy in Helsinki. I got the impression  from the person I was discussing it with that   196 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:11,120 um it had been thoroughly checked out and was  considered to be a hoax. We receive dozens of   197 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:19,039 threats each day. We always take them seriously.  In this case, we took action immediately. We were   198 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:27,119 notified of it. It was circulated uh to uh all the  appropriate commands. Uh to anticipate your next   199 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:33,599 question. No. Uh, as far as I can determine  at this point, it was not posted on bulletin   200 00:24:33,599 --> 00:24:42,159 boards. Almost at the same time as I was talking  to these two secret agents um here in London that   201 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:48,560 a warning had come from Helsinki that talked of  uh the bombing of a a Frankfurt bound plane and   202 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:56,799 that other warnings were even more specific and  talked of Penm 103. And what beused me was that   203 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:01,680 all of us had in our own way given pieces  of a very crucial puzzle to intelligence   204 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,200 which they chosen to ignore. Or so it seemed that  subsequently it became apparent to me from further   205 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:13,840 inquiries that they hadn't ignored them and that a  number of VIPs were pulled off that plane a number   206 00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:21,039 of intelligence operatives were pulled off that  plane. The South Africans, particularly Pikbotha,   207 00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:32,559 uh were booked on uh uh flight 103 and  uh changed pretty much at the last hour   208 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:42,639 or so. These South Africans had been warned by  Bureau of State Security to change reservations. 209 00:25:43,839 --> 00:25:49,919 The South Africans booked on flight 103 council  just before departure along with Pete Boa,   210 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,840 General Malin the defense minister and General  VanD head of the secret service boss and other   211 00:25:55,839 --> 00:26:01,519 senior government officials. Both Malin  and Van confirmed this change in travel   212 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:06,559 arrangements to British businessman Tiny  Rollins. They tell him the source of the   213 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:12,879 information was of the kind that could not be  dismissed. Both are rebuks on the earlier panam   214 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:20,960 101. General van and two other members  of boss cancelled their trip altogether. 215 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:29,680 Boss has close ties to two major to two very  important services to the Israeli service   216 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:41,039 and also to the uh American uh to the central  intelligence agency. Sometimes by going public   217 00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:49,920 you achieve you you you give uh uh undue attention  to what the terrorist wants to call attention to.   218 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:55,519 But if if you want me to say that if we have  specific in information that a specific flight   219 00:26:55,519 --> 00:27:01,119 was going to be specifically targeted and  that information had any credibility to it,   220 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:07,039 then I think widespread notices should be given  and people should well know uh that they were   221 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:13,119 putting their lives at risk. If you count them  out, there had been at least eight warnings to   222 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,399 the Western intelligence authorities, whether  they were British, American or German. What did   223 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,920 they need? a signed confession and a postcard. I  remember that Flora had been told that she'd be   224 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,400 unlikely to get her seat on that flight cuz it was  so near Christmas. The plane would be full. Now,   225 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:34,080 the plane was nothing like full and Flora bought a  ticket just a couple of days before she flew. Now,   226 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,480 if that came about because the others who  would have filled the plane had been warned,   227 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,360 what does that say about the system? It says that  the warning was widely known, that a lot of people   228 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,879 had heard it, a lot of people acted on it, and  it's only the mugs who weren't on the inside of   229 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:53,520 this system that's supposed to protect innocent  people who actually climbed on board that plane.   230 00:27:53,519 --> 00:28:05,839 She got on that plane really as a lamb to the  slaughter. That she walked up into that aircraft,   231 00:28:05,839 --> 00:28:19,679 believing as as anyone should might that she  was going to be safely transported to America. 232 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:29,759 No mob. Others might die, but Noise must live.  There were more than warnings. In No Frankfurt,   233 00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:34,960 before the destruction of Panam 103, a bomb-making  terrorist cell associated with the Syrianbacked   234 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:41,600 terrorists Ahmed Jabbril had been discovered.  The good burgers cross over the canal. The motorb   235 00:28:41,599 --> 00:28:49,599 barge putters through oil splotches past the  gantry cranes. Here only the water is bad. The   236 00:28:49,599 --> 00:28:56,719 phone booth still there at the end of the street.  Is there somebody in it? Has someone been warned?   237 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:04,319 Has someone been told to run away? One terrorist  cell, two terrorist cells, three terrorist cells.   238 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:13,279 How long before? How long after? On the 8th of  December 1988, the anniversary of the Enifada,   239 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:18,799 units of the Sireet Galani, the Galani Brigade,  the SAS of the Israeli Defense Forces raided   240 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:25,200 a PFLPG base in southern Lebanon at a place  called Al-Numeir. It was an extensive base,   241 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:31,759 miles of underground tunnels, underground bunkers,  one of which was Akmmed Jabriel's headquarters in   242 00:29:31,759 --> 00:29:39,759 southern Lebanon. The group you referred to was a  clandestine cell of the PFLPGC, the Akmed Jabriel   243 00:29:39,759 --> 00:29:48,079 group, uh that had been sent to Germany to set up  a an operation, several operations, as a matter of   244 00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:54,960 fact, directed against both the Americans and and  other Western targets. Uh that group had been set   245 00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:03,840 up in the aftermath of the uh American shootown of  the Iranian Airbus in July 1988. Bodies float in   246 00:30:03,839 --> 00:30:17,279 the Persian Gulf. Iranians on a flight to Mecca,  shot out of their Airbus by an American warship. 247 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:42,159 Shore 248 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,880 cream. 249 00:30:46,880 --> 00:31:04,640 That's good. 250 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:29,600 after the um uh downing of the Iranian aircraft  by the Vincent. Um everybody expected a revenge.   251 00:31:29,599 --> 00:31:35,759 The Iranian had to religiously avenge what  have happened. It was clear that they will   252 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:42,960 teach the Americans um a lesson that they can  do and duplicate what the Americans have done   253 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,960 to them. It was only a question of time where an  American airline, a courier, it doesn't have to be   254 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:56,079 Panama and specifically Panam would be downed in  in retaliation. Revenge uh just creates additional   255 00:31:56,079 --> 00:32:01,599 problems, doesn't it? I mean, after all, this  incident wouldn't have happened if Iran wasn't   256 00:32:01,599 --> 00:32:08,000 and hadn't been in the process now for a long time  of attacking US and other shipping in the Gulf.   257 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:14,880 We've put all the uh all the ingredients into  into into perspective and we we realize that it   258 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:20,960 has to be a terrorist network that has experience  in that matter. Iran would never do it directly.   259 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:27,840 they would pay $10 million to a terrorist  network that knew how to go about it and   260 00:32:27,839 --> 00:32:33,679 the contract was out. It was known at the time  that there is a contract for $10 million to down   261 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:39,759 an American airline. The Germans received a  very specific warning that Ahmed Jabriel's   262 00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:47,359 right-hand man Hussein Alamone and a known bomb  maker Marwan Kissat were heading for Germany.   263 00:32:47,359 --> 00:32:56,240 Following these contacts between uh Gabriel and  the Iranians, a clandestine PFLPGC cell was set up   264 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,720 in noise Germany and their master bomb maker, one  who had developed a lot of improvised explosive   265 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:10,640 devices for Gabriel in the past was also sent to  Germany to work on on assembling such devices.   266 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:17,440 One of the targets uh investigators determined  in the aftermath of that group's uh arrest   267 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:24,080 uh was going to be an American aircraft. The BKA,  the German Criminal Police mounted a surveillance   268 00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:32,720 operation in Frankfurt and in October 1988,  Operation Autumn Leaves arrested 17 people.   269 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,559 They found massive amounts of weaponry,  explosives, timing devices, and most significantly   270 00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:45,119 in the car that was being driven by Dal Kimone,  in which Great was a passenger, a Toshiba bombbe   271 00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:56,879 radio cassette recorder with a primed bomb  inside it, designed to blow up aircraft. 272 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,920 service 273 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:33,920 offici for 274 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:41,920 Marwin Cryat and Hafisto Kmeni on October 26th,  198 1988 after a shopping spree buying electronic   275 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:48,159 components. The buying binge filmed by German  secret police are in this phone booth on Hafen   276 00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:55,599 Strasa where they are arrested. Earlier the BKA  had been listening to the international line as   277 00:34:55,599 --> 00:35:04,000 Ciss from another phone had told Damascus, "I have  made some changes in the medicine. It is better   278 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,599 and stronger." When taken to BKA headquarters,  Cryat insists he'd be allowed to make a phone   279 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:21,039 call. He does. He is released soon afterwards  and flies to Jordan. I had spoken to a reporter,   280 00:35:21,039 --> 00:35:32,960 a German reporter who refuses to go on camera  uh but who is very close to uh uh federal uh   281 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:44,559 uh federal uh intelligence sources here in  Germany who assured me that uh Ciss was uh an   282 00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:54,400 agent of the Jordanian in service and an asset of  the central intelligence agency. If you take Chris   283 00:35:54,400 --> 00:36:01,360 for example, who um was a bomb maker who served  Gabriel and other terrorist networks for years, he   284 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:10,160 was also reporting for years his activities to um  Israel, Jordan, some other countries, intelligence   285 00:36:10,159 --> 00:36:16,239 department. the Germans did not believe that they  had sufficient evidence directly linking him at   286 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:23,279 the time. Uh so that was an internal judicial  decision within the the German government. Um he   287 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:30,560 obviously uh continued to be a suspect for us and  for the uh British authorities as well as for the   288 00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:37,119 German authorities, the BKA. I personally spoke to  the president of the BKA, Dr. Bogga and he assured   289 00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:43,199 me uh that they were going to continue an allout  effort to identify everyone involved with this   290 00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:51,199 uh Gabriel group inside of Germany. There are  times that to keep an agent who've been groomed   291 00:36:51,199 --> 00:36:56,639 uh for so many years and so much effort has  been put and even if he brings you the type of   292 00:36:56,639 --> 00:37:02,159 information that clearly indicates that there's a  bomb going to go on board or there's a bomb going   293 00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:11,119 to be go off some in in in a public place you  must sometime let it go. pressure had come from uh   294 00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:19,759 uh bond from the US embassy in bond to release  criss. Akmed Jabriel is reported to have said   295 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:27,920 that the uh the parametric detonator bombs were to  be used on attacks on Israeli bases at the top of   296 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:34,320 mountains. I don't know of any Israeli bases over  10,000 ft. And the triggers were all programmed to   297 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:43,519 become active at over 10,000 feet of altitude. So  they could only have been meant to attack planes. 298 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:50,400 This device can be used in a number of different  ways. True. It is used to make explosions in high   299 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:57,200 places. But it is possible to put this device in  a car at sea level. And if this car is driven to   300 00:37:57,199 --> 00:38:03,199 the top of a mountain, an explosion will take  place. And this mechanism is not only related   301 00:38:03,199 --> 00:38:10,879 to airplanes. Experts are well aware of the fact  that this device could be used for many purposes.   302 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:17,840 In April 1989, 4 months after the destruction of  Panam Clipper made of the seas, 6 months after the   303 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:26,480 October arrests of Cryat and Dalamani, the German  police raid 16 is Strasa in Mo Hassan Abbasis.   304 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,400 That raid will lead to the discovery of three  other Cryat manufactured bombs concealed in   305 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:40,720 electronic devices in cold storage at a veggie  stand owned by Abassi. A fourth bomb is never   306 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:48,639 found and there are rumors of a fifth. These  bombs are so sophisticated the top German bomb   307 00:38:48,639 --> 00:38:55,440 expert is killed trying to disarm one. The German  government will never request the extradition of   308 00:38:55,440 --> 00:39:00,720 Marwin Cryat. The Scottish police will never be  allowed to talk to Cryat. Nor will the Scottish   309 00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:06,719 police ever be told the details of what Cryat  told the FBI. Supervisory Agent Tom Thurman,   310 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:15,599 Special Agent Edward Marshman when the FBI  talked to him on November 12th and 13th, 1989.   311 00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:21,039 A journalist secretly interviews the bomb maker.  to him. Cries confirms that he had made airplane   312 00:39:21,039 --> 00:39:30,000 bombs for Jabril had been sent to Germany on a  revenge mission and that he was a secret agent. 313 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,800 So, as the aircraft that was blown apart  is put back together, rivets inspected,   314 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,680 how jumbo jet banks demonstrated by a  toy model, terrorists and bombs have   315 00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:44,480 already been found. Terrorists have  been set free. A bomb has vanished.   316 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:54,240 The finger points somewhere, Syria and  Iran. That somewhere soon becomes nowhere. 317 00:39:54,239 --> 00:40:01,119 March 1989, Paul Channon, the British Minister  of Transport in a London club, tells five   318 00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:07,599 journalists that the Panama case has been solved.  Arrests are imminent. Banner headlines in the   319 00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:14,319 tabloids. The next day, named as the source,  the minister denies he ever talked. and soon   320 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:22,080 afterwards resigns. Then American columnist Jack  Anderson reports in his column on a conversation   321 00:40:22,079 --> 00:40:31,039 between Margaret Thatcher and George Bush. Who  should they blame? I read the Anderson column.   322 00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:36,960 I find it a little hard to believe that two heads  of state would make a unilateral decision such as   323 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:43,599 he reports exonerating governments who are  uh documented state sponsors of terrorism of   324 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:50,239 having anything to do with the PANM 103 event  especially given the intelligence information   325 00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:56,879 some of which I know has been corroborated which  clearly links the bombing to them. One Sunday,   326 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:02,800 David Leopard, Sunday Times ace investigator,  even announces he and the Times have solved the   327 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:11,360 case. A story that changes when Mr. Leopard  writes a locker book in the middle of 1989,   328 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:19,280 some six or seven months after um Pan 103  blew up when Secretary of State Baker was in   329 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:24,960 Damascus that Baker had a meeting with the Syrian  foreign minister and that meeting Baker said,   330 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:29,840 "What are you doing about the GLC group?" And  the foreign minister didn't quite understand.   331 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,360 He's driven and said, "Who are you talking  about?" He said, "The Jabrel group." He said,   332 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,200 "Well, what what about them?" He said, "They're  responsible for Lockerby. What are you doing   333 00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:41,199 about them?" He said, "How do you know they're  responsible?" He said, "We have the evidence,   334 00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:50,079 and the evidence is irrefutable." Now, that was 7  months after 270 people were murdered in Scotland.   335 00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:57,360 I want to know why that irrefutable evidence has  never been made public. I also want to know how   336 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:03,680 it's now changed dramatically to suddenly be put  at Tripoli's door rather than Damascus's door. 337 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:17,440 The sea and a city trying to get to sleep. Beirut.  No, there are not enough ruins. Tripoli. From the   338 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:23,280 halls of Monte Zuma to the shores of Tripoli.  Every fleet marine knows the words to the Marine   339 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:31,200 hymn. Oliver North, Lieutenant Colonel,  US Marine Corps. his commander-in-chief,   340 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:37,199 the Honorable Ronald Reagan, always and  still sleeping the sleep of the just,   341 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:44,000 as he had in cabinet meetings had his three  presidential obsessions, hostages, Contras,   342 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:51,280 and Gaddafi. Oi worked with Vince, Vincent  Canestaro, on a program that was meant to   343 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:58,960 destroy the Gaddafi regime. Vincent Canestra will  later head the CIA's investigation into Locker.   344 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:04,639 Bob Woodward in the front pages of the Washington  Post using top secret documents leaked to him   345 00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:12,239 from the National Security Council wrote about  the program. Deception and disinformation. Mr.   346 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:20,319 Canestro and myself were the coordinators of Libya  policy within the NSC and did have a direct role   347 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:27,360 in um coordinating the papers written by state  with input from the CIA and the department of   348 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:33,760 defense and other agencies that all had a role.  I developed the policy towards Libya. In fact,   349 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:39,840 I wrote the draft paper that was later adopted  by the president. planted stories, fabricated   350 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:47,039 stories, stories that were meant to spin the  world around. Crazy Gaddafi, flaky Gaddafi, killer   351 00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:56,880 Gaddafi. The climax of the Vincent Ali show was  to be kept very, very quiet. It does have a name.   352 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:04,800 I worked next to Ollie for about two  years and uh he was a man uh that   353 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:10,640 uh would uh do anything to achieve the objective  he was working on. First he considered it the most   354 00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:15,839 important thing in the world and secondly he  would use any means whether that meant lying   355 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:21,440 uh even to his friends manipulating people uh he  would do anything to achieve the goal. There was   356 00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:29,920 intelligence information which could not be  uh absolutely confirmed uh that Gaddafi was   357 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:38,880 indeed interested in killing President Reagan.  Um it is true that since then people have argued   358 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:47,760 that this was a fabrication uh by CIA Director  Casey. And of course with Casey dead uh no one   359 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:58,880 can know for sure uh what was Casey's agenda and  whether indeed this information was fabricated. 360 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,320 Oliver North who was one of the principal  proponents of the bombing of Tripoli in 1986 and   361 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:10,720 as we understand now uh did manipulate the press  talked quite freely with a lot of uh uh media   362 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:18,959 people and uh had no compunctions about providing  false information. Um it is certain that Gaddafi   363 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:27,519 sent people who worked for him Libyans and others  into the United States to kill Libyan dissident.   364 00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:33,440 There's no question about that. Whether  some people may have twisted information   365 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:40,400 that dealt with those individuals into stories  alleging a conspiracy against President Reagan   366 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:49,360 uh may be true or may not be true. The airplanes  gather in silence even if the afterburners are at   367 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:55,680 full thrust as they always have been during  every long war that waxes hot and cold.   368 00:45:55,679 --> 00:46:02,799 The affable ally, the lady, never keeps  the gentleman waiting for long. The bombs   369 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:09,519 and planes are American. The British provide  only the pavement. That way, these two very   370 00:46:09,519 --> 00:46:16,800 special partners can again skirt the rest of  Europe. Lady and gentlemen, waiting. Pilot,   371 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:24,320 fuse, and bomb. All waiting. If the wait is  too long, a pretext can always be created.   372 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:34,800 In 1986, label disco in Berlin bombed. Libya  is like magnetic north. The finger always   373 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:41,920 points there. After the rubble settles in Berlin,  Tripoli, and Benghazi, the evidence implicating   374 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:52,320 Libya goes up in smoke. We were able uh through uh  technical intelligence means in almost real time   375 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:59,920 to intercept communications between the Libyan's  People's Bureau, Libyan People's Bureau in Germany   376 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:09,360 and the intelligence headquarters in Tripoli, uh  which stated very clearly that a terrorist act had   377 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:15,440 just been perpetrated against an American target  as had been directed And as far as the United   378 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:21,360 States government was concerned, this was ample  proof and justification for the retaliation which   379 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:28,640 ensued. My fellow Americans, at 7:00 this evening,  Eastern time, air and naval forces of the United   380 00:47:28,639 --> 00:47:34,559 States launched a series of strikes against the  headquarters, terrorist facilities, and military   381 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:40,719 assets that support Muama Gaddafi's subversive  activities. The attacks were concentrated and   382 00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:56,239 carefully targeted to minimize casualties among  the Libyan people with whom we have no quarant 383 00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,279 about 5,000 of their nation now. So we  have the right to kill them right now.   384 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:08,240 Perhaps they wanted to bond and do to kill  just the citizen, not military, not military   385 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:15,839 uh camps. I saw the effects of that bombing  firsthand and I talked to some of the relatives   386 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:19,280 of people that had died. I talked to some of the  people that had been injured. They were ordinary   387 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,880 Libyan people. Um I went walked around the ruins  of the French embassy, the German embassy. They   388 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,480 were very um Catholic with their bombing the  Americans. Um if it was standing, they hit him.   389 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,920 The strikes that were conducted against uh  the Aziza barracks uh were targeted on the   390 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:48,159 Aziza barracks. And at no time uh am I aware  of any uh directive uh or action that was taken   391 00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:55,119 directly by the United States that could  be described as an assassination attempt.   392 00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:01,920 I know that some have accused uh the Reagan  administration and indeed some journalists have   393 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:09,920 accused me personally of trying to uh arrange for  the assassination of Gaddafi. Those accusations   394 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:16,960 are false and without merit. The only building  they hit inside the Azi barracks where Gaddafi   395 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,599 was, which is a huge area. I mean, you're talking  something like the size of St. James's Park.   396 00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:26,000 only one building was it was a two-story building  which was Gaddafi's private residence. There's   397 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:35,599 no doubt in my mind it was a contract. It  was a a target to hit one and kill one man. 398 00:49:35,599 --> 00:49:47,199 At no time did any document call for action  that could be uh defined as an assassination   399 00:49:47,199 --> 00:49:53,359 attempt against the life of Colonel Gaddafi.  Not that many people in the United States   400 00:49:53,360 --> 00:50:00,960 would have been unhappy to see Colonel Gaddafi  leave the scene, but at no time did our policy   401 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:08,559 uh direct that that be a tactic or strategy  that we sought to implement. I established uh   402 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:15,519 that Reagan, who went on um American TV at um  7:00 in the evening, Eastern Standard Time to   403 00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:20,800 explain the attack that had just occurred at 2:00  in the morning over Libya, had to have his autoc   404 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,440 changed because initially uh it was justifying  the killing of Gaddafi. And of course, that   405 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:32,880 hadn't happened. So that had to be wiped off the  auto. A cluster bomb casing. The stencled warranty   406 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:40,960 where to return if defective in manufactureer  bomblelets. The wing wheel of an F11. The pile   407 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:50,880 of helmets left behind as if the whooping pilots  had thrown them off after a wild bucking ride. 408 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:58,559 The only thing missing because not made of metal,  the 15-month-old girl that died in the ruins.   409 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:05,440 Mumar Gaddafi's adopted daughter. I have no  illusion that tonight's action will ring down   410 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:12,079 the curtain on Gaddafi's reign of terror. But  this mission, violent though it was, can bring   411 00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:19,759 closer a safer and more secure world for decent  men and women. We will persevere. The policy   412 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:25,840 basically was to confront the Libyans. And it did  lead to military confrontation with the Libyans.   413 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:33,920 What is that famous uh saying about uh putting the  fox in charge of the chicken coupe? Uh you know,   414 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:44,720 for Vincent Kenno uh to uh uh be put in charge  of investigating lockabe uh would be funny if   415 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:52,480 it weren't an obscenity. Vince was uh was  quite aware of what was going on in Syria.   416 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,639 who was quite aware of the Iranian dimension  and the Iraqi dimension and their role in state   417 00:51:56,639 --> 00:52:07,839 sponsored terrorism. Uh what emerged in US policy  was the tendency to be able to most directly deal   418 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:14,400 with Libya because of Libya's geographic proximity  to Europe and the United States as opposed to   419 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:22,079 uh Iraq, Iran or Syria was much more difficult  uh to deal with the other countries. Canistero   420 00:52:22,079 --> 00:52:29,599 is not interested in investigating Lockabe. Uh I  I believe Canister was put in charge to make sure   421 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:37,039 that the Lockabe case goes in a specific direction  because he wasn't put in charge immediately. as   422 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:43,599 long as uh there was a you as long as long as  at the beginning they were willing to blame   423 00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:53,599 uh Syria and Iran uh canister had nothing to  do with Lakabe. As soon as it shifted to Libya,   424 00:52:53,599 --> 00:53:01,199 then they brought in of course uh the Libyan dirty  tricks expert uh to oversee the investigation.   425 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:10,879 the Syrian support for terrorism was much more  uh circumspect. Syrians were much more capable of   426 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:16,880 concealing their direct role. The Iraqis had been  taken off the list of countries that supported   427 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:25,119 terrorism at the direction of CIA director Casey.  um in early uh 1982 in order to facilitate the US   428 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:31,679 tilt towards Iraq. The Iranians because of their  geographic proximity while clearly an acknowledged   429 00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:38,480 sponsor of terrorism who are very active uh  particularly in Lebanon uh but uh elsewhere   430 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:44,960 uh around the world were also hard for the  United States to reach. I think the Scottish   431 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:51,039 police did an outstanding job. Uh some of it has  been documented. I think the FBI in particular,   432 00:53:51,039 --> 00:53:57,360 uh, their explosives experts and their forensics  experts also did an outstanding job. I think, uh,   433 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:03,039 on both sides of the Atlantic, it was probably the  largest criminal investigation in the history of   434 00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:08,000 both countries. uh the crime scene work that was  done not only in the the small town of Lockerby   435 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:13,360 but throughout almost all of southern Scotland  and and much of northern England. uh the very   436 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:21,360 minute detail of uh uh collecting all the bits and  pieces of evidence u the the bringing together of   437 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:28,559 military and civilian and law enforcement and and  foreign agencies as well I think was a remarkable   438 00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:33,759 accomplishment on the part of the Scottish  police and the English authorities that were   439 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:40,960 backing them up Scotland Yard and their military  and others approximately 10,000 items of baggage   440 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:47,840 and other artifact facts have been recovered in  the widespread searches extending from Locker Bay   441 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:54,480 to the Kilder Forest in North Umbrea. These  articles are currently being evaluated for   442 00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:02,639 evidential purposes. Detective officers forming  part of this investigation are involved in joint   443 00:55:02,639 --> 00:55:10,079 inquiries with their respective colleagues in  West Germany and the United States of America.   444 00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:17,279 All of the major developments in the case were  provided by the criminal investigators. Uh the   445 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:26,160 principal evidence that led to an identification  of a foreign role in an act of terrorism was   446 00:55:26,159 --> 00:55:32,960 uh a forensic evidence recovered by the Scots  police at Lockabe themselves. investigators   447 00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:37,519 uh and towns people on their hands and  knees crawling along the countryside   448 00:55:37,519 --> 00:55:42,480 picking up minute bits of debris  and one of those bits of debris   449 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:49,599 uh turned out to be a microchip which was analyzed  forensically then led to the Libyan connection. 450 00:55:51,840 --> 00:56:02,720 in the cold. God sometimes speaks to  detectives in mysterious ways. After 2 years,   451 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:08,559 sometime in those two years, after two  Scottish winters, surviving wind, mist,   452 00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:15,920 and snow in the 850 square miles and  forest land where 150 m headwinds had   453 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:23,440 scattered wreckage. A miracle, a clue  found, they say, near the Kildair pine   454 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:35,519 forest where it is as dark as it must have  been before time began with a first big bang. 455 00:56:35,519 --> 00:56:41,519 There were some areas which were very densely  forest um which we couldn't penetrate and uh   456 00:56:41,519 --> 00:56:49,360 that area was ignored. You then get into the  um areas of woodland that have been thinned   457 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:56,079 uh where debris had both remained in the trees  and dropped through to the forest floor that was   458 00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:02,159 cleared wherever we could by gaining access. There  was nothing cleared out of the the high trees. The   459 00:57:02,159 --> 00:57:08,719 criteria for for finding things with burn marks  and scorch marks on was to keep those items   460 00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:14,079 uh separate and hand them in as a separate item at  the end of the day. so they could be specifically   461 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:21,119 identified and checked out in priority to other  debris that would be sorted out at a later date.   462 00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:28,960 And we did in fact find one item about the size of  a postcard that was a piece of material with the   463 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:35,199 evidence of burn marks in a hole right through it.  We were really um told to bring whatever we could   464 00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:41,839 back which could um get out easily. So anything  that was up in the high canopy was left. Um the   465 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:49,840 remainder was cleared on the Scottish moors. The  mist comes in near the ground, but in the pine   466 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:58,480 woods where the tiny bit of microchip rested  until found, even the mist is invisible. Tom   467 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:04,240 and I were associates in the explosive unit.  We worked together in that unit and uh uh he   468 00:58:04,239 --> 00:58:10,559 was assigned the case as the case agent uh for  the FBI, the forensic examiner, if you will.   469 00:58:11,199 --> 00:58:18,639 And it was Tom's responsibility to uh to  organize and collect all of this evidence,   470 00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:27,199 analyze it as well as the people from Rardy uh the  British uh side of the forensic uh investigation   471 00:58:27,199 --> 00:58:33,439 and to coordinate the results of their analysis  and and examination to identify these components,   472 00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:39,840 reconstruct the bomb, and provide these leads that  were so essential. Intrepid Tom Thurman of the FBI   473 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:46,640 had in 1989 interviewed noise bomb maker Cryat,  never sharing what he was told with the Scottish   474 00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:53,359 police. This time before he could act, he had to  be helped by two English counterparts, forensic   475 00:58:53,360 --> 00:59:01,519 experts from Radi. The first to see the importance  of the extraordinarily eventful forensic find.   476 00:59:01,519 --> 00:59:08,400 one, the curious doctor, Alan Faraday, who has  had one terrorist case he investigated thrown   477 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:14,000 out on appeal with others under legal scrutiny.  Perhaps one of the most surprising things about   478 00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:20,239 Alan Faraday as a an expert witness is that he  has no formal academic qualifications whatsoever.   479 00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:25,119 The only qualification he has is a a technician's  qualification, I suppose you'd call it, a higher   480 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:30,960 national certificate in physics and electronics,  and that's about 30 years out of date. So, no,   481 00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:36,960 he he's not a doctor. And uh indeed, I even go so  far as to say he's not a scientist in the accepted   482 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,960 sense. Well, the first time I I uh encountered  him giving evidence was in the trial of uh Daniel   483 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:50,400 McNammy, uh an Irish person who was in the old  Bailey. He was up on bomb making charges. I was   484 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:55,920 because of some previous court experience, I was  asked to come along and to to watch proceedings.   485 00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:04,800 Uh I was from the public gallery and uh I watched  Faraday and uh I gradually became aware that   486 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,760 he was given the evidence a certain emphasis  that really wasn't justified that technically   487 01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:17,280 couldn't be justified. Thomas Hayes, the second  English forensic expert, an actual real chemist,   488 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:24,480 has his own terrorist associations. The Maguire 7  associated with Jerry Condan convicted of needing   489 01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:32,320 TNT in their bathroom in part because of Hayes  scientific evidence. The Maguires spent 63 years   490 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:36,960 in prison. The evidence was entirely forensic in  nature. There was no other evidence at all. They   491 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:41,679 made no confessions. In fact, they consistently  denied any involvement in any terrorist activity   492 01:00:41,679 --> 01:00:46,879 or handling any such material. Dr. Hayes had  carried out a test on gloves belonging to Mrs.   493 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:53,280 Maguire on a second occasion and had detected the  presence of nitroglycerin on that test. So he was   494 01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:59,440 not actually a primary witness. He was a secondary  witness as to fact. But his role during the course   495 01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:04,159 of the trial uh as a chemist and a qualified  chemist whereas the others who were giving   496 01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:10,480 evidence had no formal qualifications but had  worked in the field of explosives detection for   497 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:17,920 many years. uh his role was to reinforce what was  being said and to provide the explanations that   498 01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,280 the court needed in order to be able to comprehend  the nature of the prosecution case against these   499 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:29,360 people. Alan Faraday maintained wrongly in my  view that the electronics was intrinsically   500 01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:34,559 sinister. For example, that a tiny little board  with an amplifier chip on it, I mean in itself   501 01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:39,279 an utterly innocuous item. He would maintain that  it was specifically designed and constructed for   502 01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,640 bomb- makingaking purposes. And the implication  being that the anyone who handled or anything   503 01:01:44,639 --> 01:01:49,199 any involvement whatsoever to do with this tiny  little circuit board would have knowingly been   504 01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,759 involved had to be knowingly involved in bomb  construction. They were all saying the same   505 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,760 thing. They were all saying that the test was  specific. They were all saying that there wasn't   506 01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:03,200 enough sample to run a second test. They were all  saying that there was no other substance known to   507 01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:08,799 them that could be confused with nitroglycerin.  And I frankly do not believe that all of them   508 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,440 could have been saying that if they hadn't put  their heads together to say it because all of   509 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:19,440 them were saying something that they knew and must  have known was a lie. The only logical explanation   510 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,760 for the pattern of conduct in not revealing all  of these things that should have been revealed,   511 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,880 including the tests that they had secretly carried  out in their laboratory in order to determine   512 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:34,640 their theories, which had in fact been supportive  of the defense case and not their own is that   513 01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:40,400 they were engaged in a giant conspiracy which  resulted in these people being convicted. Well,   514 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:45,840 as I I haven't seen the locker be evidence, so I  can't comment on that directly. uh the involvement   515 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:59,360 of Alan Faraday that worries me. I particularly  my experience in the Gibralar case. One thing that   516 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:05,440 struck me then at the time very very strongly uh  the British government employs hundreds of people   517 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:10,960 extraordinarily wellqualified in the areas of  radio communication and electronics. Alan Faraday   518 01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:17,679 is not qualified yet they use him. I mean, I have  to ask the question why. Essentially, on June 15th   519 01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:33,199 of uh 1989, 1990, yeah, 1990, um was the day that  uh I made the identification and I knew at that   520 01:03:33,199 --> 01:03:41,439 point what it meant. And because, if you will,  I'm I'm an investigator as well as a forensic   521 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:51,760 examiner. uh I knew where that would go that at  that point we had uh no conclusive proof of the   522 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:58,960 type of timing mechanism that was used in the  in the bombing of 103. When that identification   523 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:06,800 was made of the timer, I knew that we had it. The  forest find leads to Zurich, where money grows in   524 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:24,560 banks, where the hand that steals is not cut off,  just grows other hands. To this man, Edwin Bolier. 525 01:04:24,559 --> 01:04:36,400 Uh timer 526 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:46,960 from 527 01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:23,599 196. 528 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:30,079 Libyan intelligence provided Mibo with  an order. They provided the specification   529 01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:35,519 and an order for the production  of a certain number of uh timers   530 01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:48,000 uh that are used in uh explosive devices what  are called IEDs, improvised explosive devices. 531 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:05,679 design a magnification of that circuit board  which is here. You can see it's a very large   532 01:06:05,679 --> 01:06:15,199 magnification has uh a partially obliterated  marking and through investigation we determined   533 01:06:15,199 --> 01:06:22,719 that this actually is M E VO. Initially we  thought that it might be another number like   534 01:06:22,719 --> 01:06:29,599 M580 and that was uh number of leads were sent  out to electronic manufacturers to see if they   535 01:06:29,599 --> 01:06:35,759 had made this board and they said no that  that was not their identification. So uh the   536 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:42,480 last thing that we determined which was the  right thing actually that it's mebo. We had   537 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,400 uh some inkling that that's what it was  from the beginning, but we didn't want   538 01:06:46,400 --> 01:07:01,519 to say okay that it's mebo to the exclusion of  anything else until we're absolutely certain. 539 01:07:01,519 --> 01:07:26,239 for 540 01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:28,799 the police. 541 01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:45,679 The forensics determined that the  microchip found in the debris at Lockabe   542 01:07:45,679 --> 01:07:51,039 uh came from one of those timers  produced by Mibo. Uh they were able   543 01:07:51,039 --> 01:08:15,679 to trace it to the certain lot that Libyan  intelligence had purchased from them. for 544 01:08:15,679 --> 01:08:23,439 FBI. 545 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:37,280 So the FBI were telling Mr. Borier they had three  men in Scotland in place constantly for 2 years   546 01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:43,119 when every piece was found because how could they  have known beforehand what was important. Then   547 01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:49,119 the Scottish police tell him that none of that  is true. They in fact found the smoking timer   548 01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:55,760 themselves in a shirt from Malta. Two years after  his mountain rescue team had searched the Kildair   549 01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:02,400 forest for two brief but terrible Christmas weeks,  that is how long the main search really went on,   550 01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:08,639 Bobby was asked by the police to sign a statement  saying he had found things, including things he   551 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:14,560 could not even identify. Approximately two  years after the uh the searching finished,   552 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:20,960 I received a phone call from a policeman in  lock itself asking if he could come down to   553 01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:28,880 my home and uh bring with him certain bags  uh containing some evidence that was of an   554 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:35,039 important nature and would I sign to say  that I'd picked those up or people in my   555 01:09:35,039 --> 01:09:41,840 party had picked those up and I'd handed them  in. Um he brought with him three small bags   556 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:49,360 uh about the size of an A5 piece of paper. One  of which contained this uh item of cloth. One of   557 01:09:49,359 --> 01:09:59,359 which contained a brown piece uh which looked  very much like a a piece of p of u suitcase 558 01:09:59,359 --> 01:10:05,279 and the third item I have just no  idea what it was. Then the trail   559 01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:19,679 blurs further. Other countries  in fact had the same time as 560 01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:28,159 for 561 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:44,880 GHFs. Uh 562 01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:51,760 uh there has been some speculation about timers  from that same series being provided to Stazzi.   563 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,440 Uh and it's true that they were but  they were on brown circuit boards.   564 01:10:55,439 --> 01:11:00,239 The circuit board that was used in the  explosion of lockabe was a green production   565 01:11:00,239 --> 01:11:06,399 uh model of the timer and that came from uh  Libyan intelligence. In the Stazzi files,   566 01:11:06,399 --> 01:11:15,439 the name of Edwin Bolier, code name Reuben, Stazzi  agent, his control Yim Henchel, code name Wel,   567 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:22,559 meetings in Berlin safe houses, German girls in  the inter hotels. The Stazzaryi had discovered   568 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,680 Bolier was selling everything to everyone. The  timers only the Libyans were supposed to have   569 01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:35,440 to the Stazzaryi and American C4 explosives  and Italian remote radiocontrol detonators.   570 01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:41,679 2 million Deutsch marks one Stazzy payment  for gear and selling directly to terrorists,   571 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:49,039 the Red Army faction, Palestinians, other Arabs  in both Germanies. The stars even conclude Bolier   572 01:11:49,039 --> 01:11:54,479 must have been working for the CIA because he  seemed to be able to get very special American   573 01:11:54,479 --> 01:12:04,239 equipment so easily for the Staryzi. Double,  triple, quadruple agent, a truly neutral Swiss   574 01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:12,159 businessman. through good training and through  good diligence u and and through the tremendous   575 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:18,000 amount of of concentration and hard work and  effort that was put out by the search team   576 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:26,239 u that evidence was found. uh uh luck was made in  this case by by a very strong cooperative effort   577 01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:32,960 among law enforcement and military uh services  in this case and u and that's what brought the   578 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:38,560 successful resolution to the identification  of the people involved in that bombing. Then   579 01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:45,360 another twist in turn coat Zurika Bolier's story  after a visit by Americans on December 28th,   580 01:12:45,359 --> 01:12:53,039 1988. He signed a document one week after Panama  103 was destroyed. A document in which Mr. Bolier   581 01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:59,680 swears his timers were of a model only sold to  Libya. signed even before the use of a bomb had   582 01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:06,880 been made public. Before the miraculous graveling  search, thousand Scots in lines on hands and knees   583 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:14,079 find the smoking fragment. Mr. Balier had sold  so much to so many he could be blackmailed. So in   584 01:13:14,079 --> 01:13:24,319 that situation he signed. Now he says the document  can belong to whomever pays him $2 million cash. 585 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:40,079 After 3 years of one of the most complex and  exhaustive investigations in history, head of the   586 01:13:40,079 --> 01:13:52,880 inquiry, Lord Fraser, named names. The two accused  are Abdul Basset, Ali Muhammad Al McGrai and Al   587 01:13:52,880 --> 01:14:01,279 Amin Khalifa FEMA. That the investigation has come  to this conclusion is not a surprise. We are now   588 01:14:01,279 --> 01:14:09,599 actively considering what actions to take. We have  no evidence uh to implicate another country uh in   589 01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:15,760 this disaster. I understand the investigation  has revealed no evidence to support suggestion   590 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:20,960 of involvement by other countries. In the coming  days, the president will be consulting closely   591 01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:27,119 with Prime Minister Major and other world leaders  to fashion together a cooperative international   592 01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:33,519 response to this latest terrorist atrocity by  Gaddafi's government. Today marks a milestone   593 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:40,000 in the nearly three years of unresolved grief  and unrelenting persistence to find the truth.   594 01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:47,439 Today, we call upon the political powers  of all civilized nations to send a strong   595 01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:55,759 and unequivocal message to Libya and all  states that aid, abet, harbor, sponsor,   596 01:14:55,760 --> 01:15:06,079 and support terrorist activities, that they will  no longer be tolerated in the world community. 597 01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:35,119 Uh, 598 01:15:35,119 --> 01:15:35,359 you 599 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:51,119 I know him. I I know he will never uh hurt a fly.  But it was a shock that it was put on him. They   600 01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:56,159 put his name, you know. You can't believe it.  I don't really believe it that he done it, you   601 01:15:56,159 --> 01:16:02,639 know. Not even all the Maltes that knew him never  believed that he did it. It was unbelievable. I   602 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:10,320 mean everybody u they had the same opinion in a  way they you know he's not such a person he's so   603 01:16:10,319 --> 01:16:31,279 soft that they they give him a nickname the  egg you know that mean he's very very soft 604 01:16:31,279 --> 01:16:36,079 the Roman fear theater in Sabarata,  Libya, parked and sandlasted in its   605 01:16:36,079 --> 01:16:41,199 splendor when Africa provided the grain  for Rome and a Libyan. Septimus Seis   606 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:50,399 was Roman emperor 1500 years before  the birth of the American Republic. 607 01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:56,719 Two Libyans cast without ever auditioning  have now become players in a new play with a   608 01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:05,920 very old plot. White hats and black hats.  The play goes like this. Baset McGrabi,   609 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:11,039 terrorist one, a frequent traveler  in his work for Libyan Arab airlines,   610 01:17:11,039 --> 01:17:16,800 always using his own passport, arrives  in Malta and using a false passport,   611 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:28,320 checks into the Holiday Inn, one of the only  two luxury hotels in Sylma not owned by Libya. 612 01:17:37,279 --> 01:17:43,519 In the meantime, second terrorist Lamin  Fima is rigging a bomb in the Libyan Arab   613 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:50,800 Airlines office. Could it be this office or  perhaps this one? Using saxs he has stored   614 01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:57,520 there amongst the Libyan Maltes and other  employees and of course Mr. Bolier's device. 615 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:32,640 when The great war fleet docked in Malta. The  warship tenders would unload sailors looking for   616 01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:39,280 what every sailor seeks at the foot of the Sylma  street. Now shoppers look for other kinds of cheap   617 01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:44,719 deals. What was more valuable than the suitcase  and the tracing of the suitcase were the clothes   618 01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:49,360 in that suitcase. Uh there was some baby clothes.  There was an umbrella. There were there were   619 01:18:49,359 --> 01:18:54,719 different items that were not really consistent  with having come from this one suitcase. You know,   620 01:18:54,720 --> 01:19:00,320 uh, you figure a suitcase from a from a man  who who was owned by a man would would have   621 01:19:00,319 --> 01:19:04,639 just men's clothes in there. Uh, here was a  suitcase that had several different items in   622 01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:11,840 there from from babies to adults to to casual  items. Uh, it turned out that that apparently,   623 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:19,760 as I recall, that one of the items of clothing,  uh, not to be specific, uh, was, uh, was traced,   624 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:26,480 as a suitcase might have been. Bomb damaged  clothes made in Malta had been found in the   625 01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:32,719 Panama 103 debris. So, Secret Agent McGrabi  must have scrambled up and down this shopping   626 01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:38,560 street from shop to shop, finally buying  baby clothes, pants in different sizes,   627 01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:47,200 an umbrella at Mary's house. Tony Gouchy and  Paul Gouchy, the brother owners. McGrai truly   628 01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:54,399 incognito, not as lucky as Damni and Cryat in  Noise had not been filmed. So over two years,   629 01:19:54,399 --> 01:20:00,960 Tony will make 18 separate statements. Paul  four to the FBI and Scottish police as they   630 01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:11,279 try to get the brothers to identify the clothes  buyer, 50 years old, 6 feet, hefty, full hair,   631 01:20:11,279 --> 01:20:17,439 had been there before. Had been there again, had  been there once. had seen him in a bar several   632 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:26,559 months later. The baby clothes had a sheep's  head. No, an entire lamb embroidered. I will sign,   633 01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:33,600 though I do not read English. 20 years older than  the photoit. Similar, but not identical. Maybe,   634 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:40,400 perhaps like him, but not fully like  him, like the man in the Sunday Times.   635 01:20:40,399 --> 01:20:58,719 Ramin Fimmer then steals Air Malta luggage tags  after duly noting the English word in his diary. 636 01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:11,279 tags. 637 01:21:11,279 --> 01:21:26,159 for 638 01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:32,720 and then arranges for an unaccompanied bag full  of the medley of Maltese clothes and the bomb to   639 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:39,440 be put unaccompanied on an Air Malta flight.  The bag going through three airport security   640 01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:46,159 systems traveling through a European winter with  unpredictable flight delays. The explosion capable   641 01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:55,680 of occurring anywhere on Panama 103, in the  air, over land or sea, even in the airport.   642 01:21:55,680 --> 01:22:05,360 Our play began as a tragedy. Has it now become a  comedy with two stooges, not three? If a device   643 01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:13,359 had been infiltrated into the system at Malta, it  would have been necessary for that device to have   644 01:22:13,359 --> 01:22:20,880 to have uh carry have been carried in an aircraft  on the sector from Malta to Frankfurt to have gone   645 01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:27,199 through a handling process been carried on an  aircraft for the sector from Frankfurt to Heath   646 01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:36,159 Row and then timed to detonate uh during the  final sector Heathrow to New York uh presumably   647 01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:47,039 whilst the aircraft was over the ocean to avoid um  discovery uh forensic evidence. And one has to say   648 01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:54,079 um are terrorists idiots? Uh don't terrorists  plan to have a reasonable degree of success of   649 01:22:54,079 --> 01:23:02,079 doing it? We looked at something else and it's a  matter of public record uh of the bomb making uh   650 01:23:02,079 --> 01:23:08,559 activities and the group that had been active  in Germany in noise at the time. There's all   651 01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:13,920 the publicity the documentation of that. So we  had to consider do you think it's likely that   652 01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:22,399 a terrorist group has uh managed to manufacture  a very sophisticated device in Germany? Are they   653 01:23:22,399 --> 01:23:28,399 going to move it somewhere else and then send it  on its way back to Germany? I went to Frankfurt   654 01:23:28,399 --> 01:23:39,759 airport 23rd of January 1989 to look for documents  in relation to the preparation of flight 103 from   655 01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:49,440 Frankfurt to London in particularly the uh cargo  and baggage loading plane. who was responsible   656 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:57,439 for loading the plane and what the duties were.  But these documents were missing from the daily   657 01:23:57,439 --> 01:24:05,439 file. The records at Frankfurt uh they were by  no means complete. Uh one was not able to get   658 01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:13,519 hold of the detailed records. Particularly uh  that concerned me was there was no record as   659 01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:23,600 to who unloaded that flight KM180 when it arrived  at Frankfurt. We don't know who the loaders were.   660 01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:31,520 There was no record of the number of bags that  were actually unloaded from that flight. Uh there   661 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:37,040 were no records that I could find. If the original  documents had been taken by the authorities,   662 01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:42,720 and by that I mean the police, then it would be  normal practice for a copy to be retained in the   663 01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:50,320 Panama Farm. In 1993, Air Malta wins its liel  suit against Granada television. Granada in a   664 01:24:50,319 --> 01:24:57,359 docu drama had claimed the bomb had been placed  in an unaccompanied bag on an Air Malta flight.   665 01:24:57,359 --> 01:25:05,920 At Malta, the records of the handling of that  flight KM180 uh were made available for me to see.   666 01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:12,880 There was no evidence of any unaccompanied bags.  All of the bags uh that were carried as passenger   667 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:22,079 baggage on that flight uh had been checked in by  a passenger who actually traveled on the flight.   668 01:25:22,079 --> 01:25:29,119 When in October 1989, the FBI visited Frankport  airport, the agent sent back this TX to   669 01:25:29,119 --> 01:25:37,439 Washington. No evidence of any bag transferred  from an Air Malta flight. The only evidence   670 01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:44,000 showing a transfer bag, a computer printout used  to prepare this German police report. An airport   671 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:50,800 employee, Mrs. Era claims to have stored in a  locker a copy printed off the destroyed original   672 01:25:50,800 --> 01:26:00,159 computer tape. The computer print out does not say  where the bag came from. They try to tie that bag   673 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:09,279 to KM180 from the worksheet which was maintained.  And as we found the worksheet is completely   674 01:26:09,279 --> 01:26:17,199 unreliable. And in any case, even if you accept  that the worksheet was approximately right,   675 01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:25,279 we have nobody that can account for or was  in charge of or can tell us who or how those   676 01:26:25,279 --> 01:26:33,679 bags came from the actual aircraft KM180 to that  coding station. And for more than one kilometer   677 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:40,400 and while they were in there waiting, those bags  were under nobody's control or supervision. They   678 01:26:40,399 --> 01:26:45,599 were not counted. We don't know how many should  be there. And it would have been possible to put   679 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:52,160 another bag in there along any of that route or  at any time. I've never seen any documentation   680 01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:59,840 whatsoever produced by Panama or anybody else  to show there was any interline baggage from a   681 01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:07,119 motor flight on the 21st of December 1988. What I  can tell you is that both the hea and McGrai are   682 01:27:07,119 --> 01:27:12,159 members of the Libyan intelligence service.  They were undercover as employees of Libyan   683 01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:28,399 Arab Airways. Uh but they are in actuality  members of the Libyan intelligence service. 684 01:27:53,199 --> 01:28:09,359 New work. 685 01:28:09,359 --> 01:28:17,679 And in this, as in every spy story, especially  in Malta, proverbial land of the double cross,   686 01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:23,920 there is a secret service defector,  a Mr. Jika were lots of cash,   687 01:28:23,920 --> 01:28:31,600 girls and whiskey. The only thing I can tell you  about this particular person is he was a former   688 01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,640 member of the Libyan intelligence service  who has defected to the United States. Uh   689 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:41,280 and he is now in the witness protection  program of the Department of Justice.   690 01:28:41,279 --> 01:28:47,679 So he would be used in a trial of Fahheima  and McGrai were the Libyan government ever   691 01:28:47,680 --> 01:29:02,079 to release these two for trial either in  the United Kingdom or in the United States. 692 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:39,520 He used to come here with the Libyan um  Arab Airlines uh crew or or the guests that   693 01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:46,400 uh their passengers that they have to stay  night over here and the way of dealing with   694 01:29:46,399 --> 01:29:56,960 us wasn't correct to the point once I remember I  had to report him to his uh office here the the   695 01:29:56,960 --> 01:30:03,359 representative of the Libyan Arab Airlines. He  used to ask a lot of money here, you know. Um he   696 01:30:03,359 --> 01:30:12,960 used to bring sometimes the crew of uh the Libbyan  Arab lines here which uh this crew they have some   697 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:20,000 allowance which uh we have the orders to issue  this allowance to them. Well, as a representative,   698 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:30,239 we he had the authorized authorized signature  for to give them the allowances, you know, and um   699 01:30:30,239 --> 01:30:39,599 sometimes we used to hand it to him and the crew  wasn't there. There's uh no doubt. I mean, if he   700 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:48,800 doesn't give them to to the the staff, the crew,  then he he must have kept them. they asked him to   701 01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:57,600 to return back to to Libya because his contract  finished or he's he's staying in Morta. Um so   702 01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:04,880 after a few days he came here to the hotel and he  had a plaster in his hand you know so what's wrong   703 01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:11,199 I mean he said oh I just felt from the stairs and  uh apparently he made this to to get an extension   704 01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:19,039 another 3 or 4 months to stay here. the fact that  they have in the face of UN sanctions that are   705 01:31:19,039 --> 01:31:25,840 fairly ownorous for them refused to release  either one of them for a trial in a western   706 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:31,039 court of law indicates that they have something  to be concerned about if they were to appear   707 01:31:31,039 --> 01:31:36,319 free of any kind of pressure from the Libyan  government. So I don't think if they haven't   708 01:31:36,319 --> 01:31:42,559 done it up to the present time they certainly  have no intentions of doing it in the future. 709 01:31:43,439 --> 01:32:12,239 for 710 01:32:21,119 --> 01:32:25,840 What do 711 01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:36,960 you know? That's not fun. 712 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:59,200 Sit. 713 01:33:08,399 --> 01:33:19,279 impossible. 714 01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,400 popular. 715 01:33:48,399 --> 01:33:59,039 I believe you. 716 01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:13,840 What a fun. 717 01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:24,239 Gadamas, 700 km from the Libyan coastal plane.  The place where we had lunch. The legend says 718 01:34:24,239 --> 01:34:28,559 two camel drivers meeting and having  lunch. one to come back to where he   719 01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:38,960 had left something. So the  place where they had lunch, 720 01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:46,159 walled oasis city, rebel territory already in  Phoenician times when in 1911 the Italian army   721 01:34:46,159 --> 01:34:51,119 invaded Libya as the Libyans were pushed  back after the death of Omar Muptar,   722 01:34:51,119 --> 01:34:56,399 the Libyan leader hanged by the Italians in 1931.   723 01:34:56,399 --> 01:35:05,839 It was to this rock, the citadel in the desert  near Gdamas, that the Libyan survivors withdrew 724 01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:12,880 to emerge, to raid the Italians, to ambush the  French Foreign Legion. Then for 4 years during   725 01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:20,159 World War II, the Italians and Germans, English,  French, and ANZACs, push each other back and forth   726 01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:32,079 through the great Libyan desert. Since 1911,  1 million Libyan dead piling up. Never again. 727 01:35:32,079 --> 01:35:42,399 There will be no surrender of sovereignty. 728 01:35:42,399 --> 01:35:52,000 Again, a hand, a bag, and a  baggage tag. And now a boy. 729 01:35:56,880 --> 01:36:01,680 family tell him we send you to Germany and  from Germany you can go to America to give   730 01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:09,920 him the address where he's he come to Germany  in Germany stay here by some friend and him fix   731 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:20,800 for him what he fix in his back in the ta that's  what we seen is uh his ma behind what him done to   732 01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:29,119 Lebanon, the Bakar, Balbeck, and on the ridge,   733 01:36:29,119 --> 01:36:38,720 another Israeli air strike. The  people Israel is targeting, Hezbollah, 734 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:45,119 drugs and terrorism, 735 01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:52,319 hostage country. I came to be involved  with the DEA. I was I got involved in   736 01:36:52,319 --> 01:36:59,039 uh trafficking cannabis products and uh  uh eventually was arrested and uh struck   737 01:36:59,039 --> 01:37:05,680 a secret plea agreement with the government uh  whereby they eventually decided to send me to   738 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:12,640 uh Lebanon not for cannabis products but to uh  basically bust the largest heroin producers on   739 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:18,560 the planet. They could not uh eradicate the drugs  in Lebanon. So they only could do two things.   740 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:24,080 That is to monitor what was being produced  and how it was being shipped out. And two,   741 01:37:24,079 --> 01:37:29,600 use DEA informants from Lebanon in drug  sting operations back in the United States   742 01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:38,240 uh to set up drug buys and catch uh drug buyers  in the US. And that was a big part of what they   743 01:37:38,239 --> 01:37:44,159 were doing. Uh the DEA informants would fly  in to Los Angeles, for example, or Detroit,   744 01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:49,199 and they would be loaned out to the local DEA  office and used in a drug sting operation. Many   745 01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:53,920 times they would haul in heroin with them in a  controlled delivery. Sometimes they would take   746 01:37:53,920 --> 01:38:00,800 in cash and act as a buyer. The scheme involved  uh infiltrating DEA agents from all of Western   747 01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:08,159 Europe into uh a Lebanese uh network. uh the DEA  office in Cyprus was responsible for monitoring   748 01:38:08,159 --> 01:38:14,880 drug activities in Lebanon. Uh they had to do it  from a distance because they were not allowed the   749 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:20,720 agents themselves were not allowed to set foot  in Lebanon. So they were relying on anything and   750 01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:26,400 everything their informants were telling them. And  by that time, which was in the 80s, the mid 80s,   751 01:38:26,399 --> 01:38:32,719 uh the people that were in the heroin business  were also involved in uh financing uh Syrian   752 01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:39,360 terrorism. Lebanon is a is a conduit for a great  deal of drugs and the organizations that are   753 01:38:39,359 --> 01:38:45,039 moving it through or at least supporting  the movement through are the violent   754 01:38:45,039 --> 01:38:51,359 uh political organizations such as the Hezbala,  the Iranian revolutionary guards and now Hamas.   755 01:38:51,359 --> 01:38:56,319 uh they are directly connected with much of the  drug trafficking through that area. The heroin   756 01:38:56,319 --> 01:39:01,679 laboratories themselves were located in the Macau  Valley. Uh the major one was run by Jamil Hamia   757 01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:07,680 who was a a target of our investigation and he  was in the process of producing over 100 kilos   758 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:15,680 on a single batch for part of a thousand kilo  shipment. and uh they would obtain the the opium   759 01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:23,039 uh from Jerbaker in Turkey, transport it with  the Syrians into Lebanon and then process it. But   760 01:39:23,039 --> 01:39:30,640 it was a method for financing u uh at the first  level uh internal military action in Lebanon and   761 01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:37,200 at the second level as it turns out uh to finance  terrorist activities in Europe and abroad. It was   762 01:39:37,199 --> 01:39:45,519 arranged by the DIA for me to go over and work  for the DEA in this narcotics operations group   763 01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:52,400 u headed by Michael T. Hurley who was the country  out of those days and my main responsibility was   764 01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:58,799 to gather intelligence in Lebanon related to opium  production uh and trafficking and and illegal   765 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:04,720 ports and and that kind of thing. I only knew  of Hurley's involvement as a name at that time   766 01:40:04,720 --> 01:40:12,159 because he was a station chief in in in Cyprus,  but all the station chiefs in Frankfurt and in uh   767 01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:18,079 Bon and in Amsterdam and in Paris all knew about  the operation. A control delivery is a delivery   768 01:40:18,079 --> 01:40:25,199 where a courier carries a predetermined amount  of heroin through security checkpoints with the   769 01:40:25,199 --> 01:40:30,079 knowledge and consent of the local law enforcement  people, for example, the Germans in Frankfurt.   770 01:40:30,079 --> 01:40:35,039 uh the British Customs and Excise Service in  London to pass the heroin through on the way to   771 01:40:35,039 --> 01:40:42,079 New York and then on to Detroit or Houston or Los  Angeles. The uh drug trafficking occurred um as   772 01:40:42,079 --> 01:40:49,760 we understood at the time at least once or twice  a week a courier would um carry a suitcase a s a   773 01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:56,560 brown samsonite suitcase full of drugs from Cyprus  to Frankfurt with an arrangement in Frankfurt with   774 01:40:56,560 --> 01:41:02,400 a a baggage handler that the suitcase would  be switched. Uh he would come in and check   775 01:41:02,399 --> 01:41:08,479 in with a a suitcase a a similar suitcase uh  full of clothing. It was go through it would   776 01:41:08,479 --> 01:41:14,000 go through the security system. It would go down  the chute down to the uh basement and then the   777 01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:20,319 um one of the um uh employees uh Panama employees  the uh baggage handler would switch a similar case   778 01:41:20,319 --> 01:41:26,960 full of drug. It would go on board. It will arrive  in Kennedy uh or Detroit and then it would uh be   779 01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:32,239 uh sold in the local market. Well, one of the  routes I was familiar with when and told firsthand   780 01:41:32,239 --> 01:41:39,519 about was the route that went from uh Beirut  via Cyprus to Frankfurt to London to Detroit or   781 01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:45,840 Houston or Los Angeles. It was supervised and  and surveiled by the German authorities. They   782 01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:51,840 knew that it occurred. I assume that the British  government was aware that this has occurred. Uh so   783 01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:57,680 there was a cooperation between three governments  to to monitor this activity. It's the German, uh,   784 01:41:57,680 --> 01:42:03,760 the British, and the American government.  This 1986 Drug Enforcement Agency document,   785 01:42:03,760 --> 01:42:08,640 a meeting between Marty Maguire, Frankfurt  resident, DEA agent, and Mike Hurley,   786 01:42:08,640 --> 01:42:21,440 Cypress resident agent. Already all the key words,  the BAR, heroine, Syria, Cyprus, Frankfurt. While   787 01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:27,919 this was going on, one has to remember that there  were several hostages that were kept in Lebanon   788 01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:34,159 um of of of many nationalities and there  was a strong effort to release them by   789 01:42:34,159 --> 01:42:41,119 negotiations which haven't worked out. At one  point the uh US government um entertained the   790 01:42:41,119 --> 01:42:51,439 um military entertained an possibility of of  of releasing those hostages by force after the   791 01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:57,599 uh CIA station was blown in Lebanon. uh there  was a uh mutual effort on the part of several   792 01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:04,240 agencies to sort of pick up the pieces and at  that particular time DEA informants were also the   793 01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:11,039 information they were coming out with was being  passed on uh to the CIA station in Cyprus. So   794 01:43:11,039 --> 01:43:17,519 progressively DEA informants were being used as  assets for the CIA. So in essence DEA informant   795 01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:26,960 was a cover for a CIA operation. The old American  embassy in Cyprus in the process of demolition.   796 01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:39,920 The great eagle seal torn from the wall. Its  miles of communication cables ripped out. 797 01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:45,680 Debris falling past Mike Hurley's ground  floor office as if even here a trail had to   798 01:43:45,680 --> 01:43:52,079 be destroyed. DEA Chief Mike Hurley would  receive intelligence about the terrorist   799 01:43:52,079 --> 01:44:00,000 drug networks. That would go to the CIA. The CIA  controlled the special action group operating out   800 01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:07,119 of this apartment building in Vbardan, Germany.  Operational intelligence to a group in Beirut.   801 01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:13,599 Matthew Ganon, CIA chief of station, and Army  Major Chuck McKe trying to locate and rescue   802 01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:22,480 American hostages being taken in and out of  the Bakar. A lot of attempts have been made   803 01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:29,039 to release those hostages by contacting known  figures in the terrorist work, drug dealers   804 01:44:29,039 --> 01:44:36,640 and and known terrorist as Monzal Kasar, who is  related to the Syrian government by by marriage.   805 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:44,800 uh who lived in and and operated in both  Damascus and Europe and has experience in   806 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:53,440 um in uh trafficking not only weapons all over the  world but also drugs. Um they have assigned that   807 01:44:53,439 --> 01:45:00,559 u mission to Monza Alcasar. He helped gathering  the drugs in the in the Becca Valley and helping   808 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:08,560 that the drugs going into into the United States.  uh he was an asset of the CIA. I only knew him as   809 01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:18,000 Muhammad, Abu Muhammad. He was the person  that had to facilitate the the delivery of   810 01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:24,479 um there was a brown substance that's a  precursor to heroin. They call it bass or   811 01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:30,159 bass. I think it's bass. And that's what it's  coffee colored and it comes in like gny sacks.   812 01:45:30,159 --> 01:45:37,760 and he's the person that I met who facilitated the  heroin across the Syrian border in the northern   813 01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:46,400 uh the city of Ka in QAA in in northern Lebanon.  Monzer al Casar is probably the the most notorious   814 01:45:46,399 --> 01:45:56,079 uh in the 80s anyway uh gun uh and arms  and uh and drug supplier uh in the Middle   815 01:45:56,079 --> 01:46:01,199 East. Nothing went down in the Baka Valley  related to narcotics, for example, without   816 01:46:01,199 --> 01:46:08,079 the explicit approval of Refot Assad and Monser  Al-Qas. Nothing happened in the Baka Valley,   817 01:46:08,079 --> 01:46:13,680 not the hostages, not the opium trade, not the  heroin laboratories, not the cocaine processing   818 01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:21,840 labs. None of that could have happened without  the express consent and involvement of Rifad Assad   819 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:27,920 and the Pink Panther Brigade and his partner  Monser Alcasar. And the Americans knew that   820 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:39,279 payments made to Monza al-Casar by Lieutenant  Colonel Oliver North the account numbers 821 01:46:39,279 --> 01:46:42,639 and amounts. 822 01:46:47,680 --> 01:46:51,280 As new recruits are sworn in for the ongoing war,   823 01:46:51,279 --> 01:46:57,519 the guest of honor at the Hezbollah table  of dignitaries, Ahmed Jabril, Jabril,   824 01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:05,360 who had airplane bombs in a terrorist cell  in Frankfurt in October 1988. When Gibbril   825 01:47:05,359 --> 01:47:12,000 realized that that operation was was was going  on because he was participating in drug shipments   826 01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:17,760 and raising money through drug monitoring. So it  was known the players on the ground were known.   827 01:47:17,760 --> 01:47:23,680 He realized very simple that if he can put if  he can gain access to one of the suitcases,   828 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:29,920 those controlled monitor suitcases and put a bomb  into it, the bomb would be put on plane would be   829 01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:34,880 supervised by by those who are supervising it,  including all the law enforcement agencies that   830 01:47:34,880 --> 01:47:39,520 are making sure that nobody challenges us. The  suitcase, nobody opens it. It goes through the   831 01:47:39,520 --> 01:48:14,880 security system and all he has to do is just put  it in that suitc. The rest is history. Foreham 832 01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,000 Mch. 833 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:38,960 I met Mustafa in 1974. I went to his  home in uh Balbec, actually in Shroudy,   834 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:43,840 uh where the Joffrey clan lives. And  uh they have two homes, one in Shroudy,   835 01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:50,159 one in Hermell in central Balbeck in  central Lebanon in the Bea Valley. And   836 01:48:50,159 --> 01:49:00,079 uh I got to know a great deal about his family.  Uh this was in the pre-terrorist days really. 837 01:49:00,079 --> 01:49:09,519 The Jafar family seat. The  bullet holes from Hezbollah. 838 01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:24,160 The shrine inside to Khaled. Grandfather  Mustafa Jafar. Khaled was his favorite grandson. 839 01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:34,960 Foreign speech. Foreign speech. Foreign speech. 840 01:49:41,279 --> 01:49:54,960 How are you? I will do 841 01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:45,840 This was a this was a control bag going through.  It wouldn't go through passport control. It   842 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:50,800 wouldn't go through customs. It would be it would  just be passed through. it would be either carried   843 01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:58,000 through by the informant or by somebody who was  a part of the local uh police constabularary. I   844 01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:05,840 received a telephone call from somebody I knew  in British customs advising me to or suggesting   845 01:51:05,840 --> 01:51:12,720 that we look at the possibility uh to bag may have  been switched at Frankfurt airport by the Turkish   846 01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:22,320 workers because of known drug operations being run  through Frankfurt airport. An HM customs officer   847 01:51:22,319 --> 01:51:29,840 involved in the investigation of narcotics. um had  left a message for me and I subsequently contacted   848 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:38,000 him and uh uh I met with him and he advised me  that uh he'd been in Frankfurt at a meeting of   849 01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:44,640 uh drug enforcement agencies from Germany, America  and Britain and that uh it was well known and   850 01:51:44,640 --> 01:51:50,480 discussed at that meeting that Panama were as  an airline was being used as a drug conduit.   851 01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:58,799 To my knowledge, Panama had not been informed  of any controlled drug shipments. And during my   852 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:04,079 service with Panama at Heithro, I was not notified  of any drug shipments. And it would have been a   853 01:52:04,079 --> 01:52:13,279 requirement under the uh FAA regulations and  the DOT regulations for us to be notified if   854 01:52:13,279 --> 01:52:21,359 some outside agency was putting baggage onto  our aircraft. I certainly didn't know and I I   855 01:52:21,359 --> 01:52:26,239 know nobody else in the Pan-American organization  that I've been in contact that was aware of it.   856 01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:34,559 Although I've not handled any drug shipments, I  would assume that it would be normal procedures or   857 01:52:34,560 --> 01:52:45,039 practice to bypass the passenger searching stage  and take the bag through other routes and take   858 01:52:45,039 --> 01:52:51,600 direct to the aircraft thereby avoiding possible  searches to prevent unauthorized people knowing   859 01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:58,560 what was being shipped. I was aware of disco some  information with regards the possibility that   860 01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:06,640 uh passengers on board the 103 uh could have  been involved in the uh illegal movement of   861 01:53:06,640 --> 01:53:13,280 narcotics. Um and some names were mentioned to me  particularly one passenger by the name of Jafar.   862 01:53:13,279 --> 01:53:20,559 When I was working in Cyprus in 1988 at DEA, we  were working in a penthouse apartment on top of a   863 01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:26,160 building down the road from the American embassy.  Uh we answered the phone, uri Trading Company,   864 01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:34,159 which was a cutout proprietary company used by the  CIA and the DEA uh for various incundary purposes.   865 01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:41,359 One was uh uh these drug informants would come  in on the sunny boat from Juny. uh the criate   866 01:53:41,359 --> 01:53:44,639 police narcotics people would bring them up to  the apartment. They would all sit around in the   867 01:53:44,640 --> 01:53:50,800 living room and drinking coffee and uh chatting  away while I was over at my computer working away   868 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:54,480 and then they would be called up one by one on  the telephone to go over and meet with Hurley at   869 01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:59,439 the American embassy. And one of the people that  I observed there was this kid that we used to call   870 01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:07,199 that was referred to as Nazi uh Nazi Jafar. Well,  I knew from the conversations around me in ' 88   871 01:54:07,199 --> 01:54:12,000 that he was involved in in control deliveries  and there's no doubt in my mind about that at   872 01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:18,239 all. Uh so when I found out he was on 103 and he  was killed and that there was a control delivery   873 01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:24,159 going through at the time and the fact that I  knew the security problems that the DEA had and   874 01:54:24,159 --> 01:54:29,119 the relationships that they were having with some  people in Lebanon that we had already raised as an   875 01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:34,559 issue as far as security is concerned. It was very  simple for me to put one and one together and get   876 01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:43,200 the big two uh that the DEA's operation had a role  in all of this. In 1990, before a congressional   877 01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:49,199 committee, the Drug Enforcement Agency, Steven  Green, acting administrator, will deny under oath   878 01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:56,000 that there were any controlled drug deliveries  through Frankfurt Airport in 1988. But in Virginia   879 01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:03,359 court documents, deliveries are documented. A DEA  agent has testified being at Frankfurt airport in   880 01:55:03,359 --> 01:55:10,079 1989. The drug traffic was so heavy by then that  there was a full-time DEA liaison agent Thomas   881 01:55:10,079 --> 01:55:16,479 Sloveni at the airport. One convicted Lebanese  Bakar dealer had even tried to contact a Panama   882 01:55:16,479 --> 01:55:25,519 pilot. But Frankfurt had been used as a base  for covert drug and CIA operations long before.   883 01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:35,920 In 1984, I was undercover and uh my base of  operations was uh uh in Wsburg at the headquarters   884 01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:46,319 of the third infantry division and uh I was  contacted by fellow who worked for Oliver North.   885 01:55:46,319 --> 01:55:54,880 I was uh asked uh to uh develop an operation  laying a trail which would would lead back to   886 01:55:54,880 --> 01:56:02,720 Libya and make it look as though a Libyan effort  was behind this to bring drugs into the United   887 01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:10,800 States. The way to do this is to make it look as  though the material had been shipped from Europe   888 01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:18,480 to Libya and then from Libya to the United States.  I was buying a precursor for the manufacturer of   889 01:56:18,479 --> 01:56:28,639 speed and methylbenzyl ketone which has the same  chemical formula as camic acid which is something   890 01:56:28,640 --> 01:56:35,520 harmless that they put in the toothpaste as  flavoring. I'd buy that and the labels would   891 01:56:35,520 --> 01:56:43,840 be switched and the synamic acid would be shipped  to Libya. methyl benzyl ketone be shipped into the   892 01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:53,840 United States to the mafia who were paying for it  in advance. My instructions were to use Frankfurt   893 01:56:53,840 --> 01:57:04,560 since uh that was where all the contacts were. I  was told to play the role of Muhammad El Huama who   894 01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:13,280 was a low-level operative in Libyan service and  if a purchase order or something were needed I had   895 01:57:13,279 --> 01:57:28,800 been provided from headquarters with stationery.  I have a sample of the stationery that was used. 896 01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:34,239 This is the bill of lighting. Libyan  Airlines was to be used. And this   897 01:57:34,239 --> 01:57:45,199 is the bill of lighting for Libyan Airlines  showing that this material is going to Libya. 898 01:57:45,199 --> 01:57:51,679 And I received, for instance, the funds to  do this through the military banking system   899 01:57:51,680 --> 01:58:01,440 for this one in Wittsburg. Here's a  voucher for the receipt of 317,100 900 01:58:01,439 --> 01:58:11,599 uh German marks. The street value of the  drugs that I imported was about $350 million. 901 01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:19,280 Khaled Jafar arrives in Germany with the two  killers of heroine given to him by Hezbollah   902 01:58:19,279 --> 01:58:27,119 captain Muhammad Jafar. A controlled delivery.  No police or customs inspection. The policeman   903 01:58:27,119 --> 01:58:33,119 who waits for Khaled as he arrives in Germany will  assist him through Frankfurt airport security when   904 01:58:33,119 --> 01:58:42,399 he boards flight 103 on December 21st. Jafar  takes a taxi to meet some of the people whose   905 01:58:42,399 --> 01:58:52,000 names have been given to him by Hezbollah.  Among them, Fisel Jalus and Adnan Ununice. 906 01:58:52,000 --> 01:59:00,399 Jafar was was u clearly working as  a courier for the DA for the entity   907 01:59:00,399 --> 01:59:07,119 that has employed him to courier uh the drugs  controlled substances to the United States.   908 01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:12,640 He was also under strict surveillance by  Mossad uh and by by many other governments   909 01:59:12,640 --> 01:59:20,000 uh who were interested to know what is going  on uh in that area and who saw in advance   910 01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:26,079 uh way way in advance that this could create a  major problem in the future. At the beginning   911 01:59:26,079 --> 01:59:39,920 of July 1989, our sales director in Oslo, Mrs.  Barrett Sland received some documentation and 912 01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:48,239 um information from the local police regarding  a possible meeting or a definite meeting by   913 01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:58,000 person called Goldberg and a man called Jaffar  somewhere in Scandinavia and the Mr. Goldberg   914 01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:04,960 had supplied details from his personal  notebook and some handwritten notes which   915 02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:13,119 had been forwarded to the local police and then  to us in London. On receipt of the information,   916 02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:19,599 we notified the American embassy, Mr. to Bob  Mahoney and at his request on the 7th of July   917 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:28,079 1989 the documents were forwarded to him at the  US embassy in London at which point we were told   918 02:00:28,079 --> 02:00:34,239 or advised that he would look into the matter.  I've never had any telephone conversation or   919 02:00:34,239 --> 02:00:39,840 any written information from the US embassy  advising us the outcome of their inquiries.   920 02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:47,520 In October 1988, the German federal police had  watched a white Volvo with Swedish plates load   921 02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:57,280 up in front of 16 Isustrasa in Noise. Bomb  maker Kissat had stayed there. A raid on   922 02:00:57,279 --> 02:01:05,359 Abasi's apartment at that address in April 1989  after Panama 103 had been blown out of the sky   923 02:01:05,359 --> 02:01:12,559 had led to the discovery of three Cryat bombs in  electronic devices with a fourth and possibly a   924 02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:21,520 fifth airplane bomb missing. Two men are driven  in the Volvo to Opsala, Sweden. the route by   925 02:01:21,520 --> 02:01:30,480 car ferry because of the laxa border controls. In  December, before he boards Panam 103 in Frankfurt,   926 02:01:30,479 --> 02:01:41,839 Khaled Jafar is driven to Sweden by Fisel Jaloo,  stopping at this address in Elmshorn near Hamburg. 927 02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:58,960 Jafar takes the Keel Gottenberg ferry. One of  the addresses in Goldberg's notes, 3A Storegate 928 02:01:58,960 --> 02:02:03,760 entrances onto two separate streets, a tramway,   929 02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:13,119 the highway nearby, the present occupant,  Muhammad Berbuk. Hello. Hello. Hello. 930 02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:33,119 What do you mean? 931 02:02:45,119 --> 02:02:56,960 Sometimes I used to go back. 932 02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:11,680 Hotel 933 02:03:11,680 --> 02:03:26,000 Muhammad 934 02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:26,560 for dash. 935 02:03:37,039 --> 02:03:51,119 Hey, 936 02:03:51,119 --> 02:04:02,239 come on. 937 02:04:09,920 --> 02:04:19,520 Jafar will go to Stockholm according to Mr.  Goldberg on the 1710 train on December 19th.   938 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:26,480 Mr. Goldberg after a single 30th January 1989  meeting with the Panama sales agent in Oslo   939 02:04:26,479 --> 02:04:35,199 leaves his precise notes behind and vanishes.  Goldberg Such a common Jewish name is in fact   940 02:04:35,199 --> 02:04:44,079 an Israeli intelligence operative still on active  duty today. Khaled tells his family in the Bakar   941 02:04:44,079 --> 02:04:50,960 that he had met this man Abu Talab during his  trip to Sweden. Talb had been arrested in Upsala   942 02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:58,480 in October 1988 at the same time the Jabril  group arrests had been made in noise Germany.   943 02:04:58,479 --> 02:05:05,839 Talb also was initially released, then  rearrested after Lockabe accused of terrorism,   944 02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:11,920 convicted on the flimsiest evidence, and  is now serving time in Kumla prison in   945 02:05:11,920 --> 02:05:21,199 Sweden. In October 1988, Abu Talab had visited  Cyprus and Malta. He returned from Malta with   946 02:05:21,199 --> 02:05:27,599 a hodgepodge of Maltese clothes. At one  point, the multi-shopkeeper Tony Gouchi,   947 02:05:27,600 --> 02:05:33,920 so relentlessly questioned by the FBI and  Scottish police shown Abu Tab's photograph,   948 02:05:33,920 --> 02:05:46,640 says Abu Tab could be the clothes buyer. But  Tony is never one to make definitive statements. 949 02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:51,280 But Khaled Jafar does tell his family  in the Bakar that he had been given   950 02:05:51,279 --> 02:05:58,479 Maltese clothes by Abu Tal, including a  baby grow, a fragment of a baby grove,   951 02:05:58,479 --> 02:06:11,279 one of the items of clothing the Scottish  police and FBI inquire about in Malta. 952 02:06:11,279 --> 02:06:41,039 forchech. 953 02:06:49,760 --> 02:06:55,840 Khaled's ticket to Detroit one way will  be bought for him at Ali Ricepro in Iselon   954 02:06:55,840 --> 02:07:04,640 Germany. Mr. Jadala, owner of Ali's Travel,  confirmed a Mr. Ununas bought the ticket.   955 02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:21,760 Mr. Jadala was told not to reveal the name.  A second call. The wife answering this time. 956 02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:43,359 The official London Metropolitan Police notes on  Khaled Jafar's ticket. Form of payment not known.   957 02:07:43,359 --> 02:07:51,199 Student ticket oneway. Originating office,  Panama, Hamburg. History of booking, none.   958 02:07:52,560 --> 02:08:10,960 The copy for the actual ticket held for all  Panama passengers has in Jafar's case disappeared. 959 02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:22,239 Follow 960 02:08:22,239 --> 02:08:27,840 me. 961 02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:33,279 Mhm. 962 02:08:33,279 --> 02:08:37,199 Uhhuh. 963 02:08:37,199 --> 02:09:06,000 foreign. 964 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:35,199 Uh, 965 02:09:35,199 --> 02:09:35,519 CIA 966 02:09:40,319 --> 02:09:50,000 The European knight covering all Jalus still in  Berlin. Did he drive Jafar to Sweden? Verbuk,   967 02:09:50,000 --> 02:10:04,159 did he meet Jafar? Ununice, did he buy the  ticket? Will they ever be asked what they know? 968 02:10:04,880 --> 02:10:08,800 The day is 969 02:10:08,800 --> 02:10:13,920 Major Chuck McKe, head of the hostage rescue  team, takes the Sunnyboat. The Juno ferry from   970 02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:20,319 Lebanon to Cyprus. Matthew Ganon, Beirroot CIA  station chief, travels separately, arriving on a   971 02:10:20,319 --> 02:10:27,279 helicopter with the US ambassador to Lebanon, John  McCarthy. The ambassador, like Ganon, is booked   972 02:10:27,279 --> 02:10:44,960 on Panama 103, December 21st. The diplomat,  however, decides not to travel into New York. 973 02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:50,079 McKe has never contacted his mother  or anybody while he was on missions   974 02:10:50,079 --> 02:10:56,479 abroad. Never ever kn anybody knew where  they were. In that single occasion upon   975 02:10:56,479 --> 02:11:05,839 his return or just before he returned to the  United States, he contacted his mother and he   976 02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:13,279 um indirectly have have related to her  that he's on his way back. It's unusual   977 02:11:13,279 --> 02:11:19,840 that he's in distress. McKe's behavior before  returning to the United States is strange. He   978 02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:32,720 is initially booked on Panama 103 December  22nd, changing to Panam 103 December 21st. 979 02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:38,400 His communications man from Beirut through  a secure link had sent the travel details to   980 02:11:38,399 --> 02:11:45,199 McKe's operational control. This same member  of McKe's special forces unit has confirmed   981 02:11:45,199 --> 02:11:51,359 that McKe hated drugs and had fired his Beirut  driver before leaving Lebanon when he'd caught   982 02:11:51,359 --> 02:11:58,319 him with drugs. After McKe's death, there are  stories that members of the hostage rescue team,   983 02:11:58,319 --> 02:12:02,880 among them, McKe, had been very upset when  they discovered that the agents they were   984 02:12:02,880 --> 02:12:09,920 asked to work with were drug dealers. There  are suggestions that McKe was on his way   985 02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:17,279 home to expose the drugs for intelligence  operation. The drug enforcement agency are   986 02:12:17,279 --> 02:12:25,119 watching McKe. Mike Hurley separately tlexes  McKe's final travel arrangements to the CIA   987 02:12:25,119 --> 02:12:32,960 Directorate of Operations in Washington,  to MI6, the British Secret Service, 988 02:12:32,960 --> 02:12:39,840 and to SPAG, the CIA special action group  in Germany in overall control of the drugs   989 02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:48,480 intelligence operation. Every spook there is will  know that McKe is flying back on December 21st.   990 02:12:50,479 --> 02:12:56,000 Yeah. You there? Yeah. How are you? I'm doing  pretty good. Where are you calling from? Well,   991 02:12:56,000 --> 02:13:02,319 I'm in uh I'm in responding. Uh I just got  into Frankfurt to the airport and I'm going   992 02:13:02,319 --> 02:13:07,599 to just chill out here for the night. Are  you alone? Well, of course I'm alone. You   993 02:13:07,600 --> 02:13:15,039 don't think I'd be asking you questions with  somebody around? Hold on. Wait a minute. Yeah.   994 02:13:15,039 --> 02:13:25,359 Hello. Yeah. Okay. The duty officer just came in.  Yeah. All right. Now, tell me where you worked. 995 02:13:25,359 --> 02:13:29,519 Okay. What's that? I just turned it off. It was  being taped. What the [ __ ] do you want to know   996 02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:36,560 this for, man? You mean a special action group  in Wisconsin? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, uh, you know,   997 02:13:36,560 --> 02:13:42,160 you're retired from there now, but you're still  doing what? Consulting work, right? Sure. All   998 02:13:42,159 --> 02:13:51,039 right. Now, look, does the name Khali Jafar mean  anything to you? Yeah. Oh, who who is that? He's   999 02:13:51,039 --> 02:13:57,680 the local guy, man. You know who he is. Who what  do you mean local guy? Come on. What does he have   1000 02:13:57,680 --> 02:14:10,560 to do with Mr. Lockerby man? Okay, that's what I  now when he came to Germany in 88 who met him at   1001 02:14:10,560 --> 02:14:20,240 who met him at the plane? You mean that prick love  joy dead? No [ __ ] Is uh you know this is he part   1002 02:14:20,239 --> 02:14:26,319 of the structures? Is he still What the [ __ ]  man? Come on. You know the [ __ ] Is he still   1003 02:14:26,319 --> 02:14:32,799 part of the structures? Yeah. All right. That's  you know because nobody's been able to locate him   1004 02:14:32,800 --> 02:14:37,600 and a lot of people have been looking for him.  So you guys must be hiding him somewhere. Yeah,   1005 02:14:37,600 --> 02:14:44,800 I bet too. All right. Okay. Now, when he was taken  back to get on a to get on a plane to leave the   1006 02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:48,880 country, who took him through security? Oh, we  did. Some of my fellows took him out there. We   1007 02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:53,440 took him on the plane and turned him over to  Ganon. You mean Ganon was his keeper on the   1008 02:14:53,439 --> 02:15:04,319 plane? That's right. No [ __ ] That's right. First  class. That big [ __ ] sitting right up there. 1009 02:15:14,640 --> 02:15:22,640 Mr. Key, I I remember because uh he asked me for  an upgrade and he had a a certificate and that was   1010 02:15:22,640 --> 02:15:31,920 the program that we were running at that time. And  so I I moved his class and um he was over the moon   1011 02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:39,119 about it. He was just so pleased and um we sort of  struck up quite a a rep for in that short period   1012 02:15:39,119 --> 02:15:49,359 of time. And then later uh another gentleman came  in who I found out was uh Mr. Ganon and after that   1013 02:15:49,359 --> 02:15:59,519 two other gentlemen came in and they were um Mr.  Okconor and Mr. Laraveier. Just from observation   1014 02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:07,760 it was obvious that they were traveling together.  They they greeted each other um with hugs and were   1015 02:16:07,760 --> 02:16:17,440 much relieved when the last member arrived. Um,  but I I was told by by a colleague who checked   1016 02:16:17,439 --> 02:16:24,159 them in downstairs that who had actually asked  me if I would mind having them in the club that   1017 02:16:24,159 --> 02:16:30,000 um she had assumed that they were traveling  together and therefore asked if they wanted   1018 02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:35,040 to sit together and they had denied that they were  actually traveling together. They they didn't know   1019 02:16:35,040 --> 02:16:42,080 each other and there was a few giggles and things  and um she was amazed by their attitude but just   1020 02:16:42,079 --> 02:16:48,318 thought they were playing around. Special  Forces Major Chuck McKe's hostage rescue   1021 02:16:48,318 --> 02:17:00,478 mission becomes a suicide mission the moment  he boards Panama 103 from the Clipper Lounge 1022 02:17:00,478 --> 02:17:07,759 in the fields near Tunder Goth Church. There  were a number of uh bodies in the bogs in   1023 02:17:07,760 --> 02:17:19,120 the woods and around the fields. I remember  particularly um the dictit family. I remember 1024 02:17:19,120 --> 02:17:25,840 um La Rivier and a few other uh names. All of  which I learned later on when I went to assist   1025 02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:31,120 the police with their inquiries to identify  where I'd found who. The ark goes right around   1026 02:17:31,120 --> 02:17:36,960 the crest of the hills overlooking where the  cockpit fell. There were a number of bodies   1027 02:17:36,959 --> 02:17:43,759 which subsequently became of great interest to  a lot of people. Charles McKe, a very brave man,   1028 02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:50,639 an expert in counterterrorism, was found just  up on the ridge there. Ganon, Matthew Ganon,   1029 02:17:50,639 --> 02:17:57,680 an intelligence officer. Ronald Larivier, another  intelligence officer. Captain Curry, special   1030 02:17:57,680 --> 02:18:03,600 forces, who according to his memorial was killed  in the line of duty. We've never found out exactly   1031 02:18:03,600 --> 02:18:09,360 what that duty was. There were saints and there  were sinners on that aircraft. There were also   1032 02:18:09,359 --> 02:18:16,559 some very strange people whose backgrounds have  never really been clarified. In particular, in the   1033 02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:23,600 Tund area near the church. I identified several  bodies amongst which were those of uh McKe and La   1034 02:18:23,600 --> 02:18:30,880 Rivier. I knew that McKe was absolutely correct  because of the clothing which correlated closely   1035 02:18:30,879 --> 02:18:36,000 with other reports and statements when we examined  matters later on the computers which were linked   1036 02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:41,920 to London and Washington. So far as Larivier was  concerned, he was in an area where there were only   1037 02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:48,479 two or three people and his details correlated  well with those on the computer. At the time, uh I   1038 02:18:48,478 --> 02:18:53,838 didn't know their names. Uh I wasn't uh very sure  exactly who they were working for but subsequently   1039 02:18:53,840 --> 02:19:00,159 of course it turned out to be Major Charles  McKe from the uh Defense Intelligence Agency and   1040 02:19:00,159 --> 02:19:06,558 uh Ron Laraveier and Matthew Ganon and several  other people that had loose connections with the   1041 02:19:06,559 --> 02:19:15,280 intelligence uh side of things. It's very strange  considering some of them were traveling together.   1042 02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:21,599 At least one of the bodies who should have been  found in a location beside his colleagues was   1043 02:19:21,600 --> 02:19:27,920 found in fact in a totally different location  beside or very close to the body of a person who   1044 02:19:27,920 --> 02:19:33,280 has been the subject of intense investigation  and speculation. One is forced to wonder what   1045 02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:39,120 somebody from the front of the plane was doing  landing beside somebody who was in the second last   1046 02:19:39,120 --> 02:19:48,079 row of seats in the aircraft. Khaled Jafar  in seat 53K at the very rear of the aircraft.   1047 02:19:48,079 --> 02:19:55,439 Matthew Ganon in first class near where the bomb  exploded. Their bodies are found 100 yards from   1048 02:19:55,439 --> 02:20:03,519 each other. The only passengers from opposite  ends of the aircraft to be thus joined in death. 1049 02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:10,960 Well, I was told early on uh that the bomb had  that the investigators believed the bomb had been   1050 02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:18,159 taken onto the plane by uh a US uh officer who  secundered to military intelligence and the bomb   1051 02:20:18,159 --> 02:20:24,799 had been planted on him uh in Beirut. Later on  when I started uh doing the research into Lockabe,   1052 02:20:24,799 --> 02:20:29,439 it was puzzling me that the the line was that  there weren't any drugs on the airplane because   1053 02:20:29,439 --> 02:20:34,318 it would seem that must be the first transatlantic  flight for a long time. not to have any drugs on   1054 02:20:34,318 --> 02:20:39,599 it. And just asking around people who'd been  involved in in the investigation afterwards and   1055 02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:44,559 involved removing the bodies from the hillside,  uh they they were able to tell me specific   1056 02:20:44,559 --> 02:20:51,120 passengers and what they had on them. And uh one  officer also told me how he had to get a farmer   1057 02:20:51,120 --> 02:20:55,599 uh passing with a tractor and trailer to help  him take his suitcase full of what he presumed   1058 02:20:55,600 --> 02:21:01,920 to be heroin uh away from Tundarth and down  to uh the Dexar factory where the luggage   1059 02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:07,040 uh was being stored once it was recovered from  the area around. The farmer Jim Wilson lives in   1060 02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:13,439 the farm facing Tundath Church. Still traumatized  by all the death in his fields and by the past   1061 02:21:13,439 --> 02:21:23,599 treatment by the press, he refuses to talk.  Private eye, however, had published an account. 1062 02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:29,920 That terrible December, as bodies were still being  found, Wilson told Panama 103 relatives, they too   1063 02:21:29,920 --> 02:21:35,920 will not appear publicly, that he was there when  the drugs were found. How soon after the police   1064 02:21:35,920 --> 02:21:42,318 found the drugs, Americans rushed to the scene in  an allterrain vehicle and took the stash away. The   1065 02:21:42,318 --> 02:21:50,478 Americans were very angry that the drugs had not  been found sooner. A Scottish policeman, bound by   1066 02:21:50,478 --> 02:21:56,638 official secrets and the draconian Scottish police  disciplinary act and therefore not able to speak   1067 02:21:56,639 --> 02:22:03,439 has confirmed that there were drugs found near  Tund. The police were told to keep an eye out for   1068 02:22:03,439 --> 02:22:10,960 drugs and Khaled Jafar's name had been repeatedly  mentioned as a drug courier. A mountain rescue man   1069 02:22:10,959 --> 02:22:17,759 has separately confirmed the finding of drugs.  He had been warned not to ever say anything.   1070 02:22:17,760 --> 02:22:24,559 The story was broadcast at 8:00 in the morning.  By 9:00, two uh senior policemen had arrived at   1071 02:22:24,559 --> 02:22:29,680 my office unannounced. Uh they knew I had written  the story despite the fact that it wasn't my voice   1072 02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:37,360 on it. Uh and uh proceeded to ask questions over  a period of about 6 hours, including the rather   1073 02:22:37,359 --> 02:22:43,200 bizarre offer to take me to Mrs. Thatcher, who's  then the prime minister at the time, to reveal   1074 02:22:43,200 --> 02:22:48,240 the source of the story to her if I couldn't if I  felt I couldn't reveal it to anyone else. Such was   1075 02:22:48,239 --> 02:22:55,359 the importance they had placed on finding out who  told me this information. Near the Kildair forest,   1076 02:22:55,359 --> 02:23:04,159 another secret find. This one never made public  by police, FBI, or secret services. The t-shirt   1077 02:23:04,159 --> 02:23:10,799 that we found was um had a a logo on on a just  a plain white t-shirt, which uh we understand is   1078 02:23:10,799 --> 02:23:17,439 something to do with a a free Palestine liberation  group. Um the police did come down separate to the   1079 02:23:17,439 --> 02:23:23,759 uh the time we were up in Belgium actually to my  home uh to take a statement about the the location   1080 02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:30,000 of the the article uh where it was found its grid  reference who' found it and uh at the time that   1081 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:40,000 the police were down they mentioned it was part of  his bar group. Daily Express, December 31st, 1988,   1082 02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:49,040 10 days after the bomb brought down Panama 103.  The cover photo, Khaled Jafar. The sources for the   1083 02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:57,840 headline, the FBI and Scotland Yard. In the early  months of 1989, I was contacted by Mustafa Joffer   1084 02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:04,639 after quite a long period and he was contacting  me and he was quite excited about some information   1085 02:24:04,639 --> 02:24:10,079 and eventually it became clear over a number of  conversations that involved the downing of Panam   1086 02:24:10,079 --> 02:24:16,239 Flight 103 over Lockerby. And the information  was significant enough that he gave me which   1087 02:24:16,239 --> 02:24:22,799 is documented in in letters that I've shown you  that I contacted uh my congressman Larry Smith and   1088 02:24:22,799 --> 02:24:29,599 uh also notified the the president because it  was obviously a crime that was unsolved and   1089 02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:34,319 this person said they had information. Mustafa  Joffer said that a relative of his had perished   1090 02:24:34,318 --> 02:24:39,920 on the flight carrying a suitcase bound for  Detroit which undoubtedly contained drugs.   1091 02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:47,280 the information was extremely specific and that  they had someone within the organization that had   1092 02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:53,359 put the bomb on board that could give them some  indications of where future terrorist attacks were   1093 02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:59,040 going to begin. Over the course of uh many calls  and being in direct contact with the FBI and a   1094 02:24:59,040 --> 02:25:04,479 number of other people, the State Department uh  every every normal channel and authority became   1095 02:25:04,478 --> 02:25:11,599 quite clear that uh he had significant information  and in fact had predictive information in terms of   1096 02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:17,520 uh the attacks on the World Trade Center uh which  was one of several attacks which he said were   1097 02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:23,041 were staged were going to be staged at that time  and this was well in advance of those attacks. 1098 02:25:33,439 --> 02:25:40,799 When you think of the painstaking uh  investigation, the minute details that   1099 02:25:40,799 --> 02:25:46,079 had to be dealt with and when you think  of the the actual challenge to begin with,   1100 02:25:46,079 --> 02:25:51,200 you had over 270 people killed, 11 on the ground,   1101 02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:56,960 the remainder in the aircraft. itself. Every  one of those people excluding the people of   1102 02:25:56,959 --> 02:26:02,959 the citizens of Lockabe had to be investigated  for possible connection to the terrorist event   1103 02:26:02,959 --> 02:26:07,599 itself. Several of the investigators as well  as some of the British intelligence people   1104 02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:17,281 involved in the investigation were highly  honored by the United Kingdom's government. 1105 02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:50,159 All of us working on the case made it a very very  personal priority of the utmost order. We were not   1106 02:26:50,159 --> 02:26:57,840 going to let this go unpunished. And frankly, I  believe that we need to do more to punish Libya   1107 02:26:57,840 --> 02:27:09,760 uh than we have done if they do not surrender  the defendants and stand before the court of law. 1108 02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:49,600 Foreign 1109 02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:55,920 Lester Kobe, now a political refugee indicted by  the government of the United States for perjury   1110 02:27:55,920 --> 02:28:02,479 so doubt would be cast on what he might reveal  about the Lebanese drugs intelligence operation.   1111 02:28:02,478 --> 02:28:07,358 I took my family and went to Sweden. And when we  got to Sweden, we were went to the police station   1112 02:28:07,359 --> 02:28:14,079 in this town where we were going to live. And uh  we reported in and I told them our story and asked   1113 02:28:14,079 --> 02:28:23,039 for political asylum and they put us up in a uh a  refugee camp and they uh gave us a apartment and   1114 02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:28,240 uh a living stipen, clothes, cuz we didn't  have anything then at that point. No money.   1115 02:28:28,239 --> 02:28:33,119 It wasn't an easy thing for us to leave. And  we were looking over our shoulder the whole   1116 02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:39,280 time until we got to Sweden. And it was such a  relief, such a big burden off of our shoulders   1117 02:28:39,280 --> 02:29:06,000 when we got there that we all just broke down uh  in the police station. And uh it was a it was a uh 1118 02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:43,040 America. 1119 02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:48,960 for 1120 02:29:48,959 --> 02:30:02,959 the head of 1121 02:30:06,079 --> 02:30:15,680 In some countries they change presidents. In  some countries the president stays the same. 1122 02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:20,559 President Assad of Syria still runs the Bakar is   1123 02:30:20,559 --> 02:30:30,639 still paymaster to Ahmed Jabril.  Still protects and uses Hezbollah. 1124 02:30:30,639 --> 02:30:36,399 Another memorial. Another president, the  chief constable from Scotland, some of the   1125 02:30:36,398 --> 02:30:56,638 American Pan families, a monument in Arlington  National Cemetery where war heroes are buried. 1126 02:31:08,559 --> 02:31:12,399 Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's  ceremony. Please remain seated until the   1127 02:31:12,398 --> 02:31:18,239 official party has departed. Thank you for your  attendance and enjoy your day. My son was in the   1128 02:31:18,239 --> 02:31:24,398 army stationed in Germany and was due to come back  to the United States on that particular flight.   1129 02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:30,800 I can't say what that would have done,  but I it gave me an opportunity, I think,   1130 02:31:30,799 --> 02:31:37,920 to even more personally identify with the parents  and and relatives of the victims and to empathize   1131 02:31:37,920 --> 02:31:44,719 with what they must go be going through and what  they must have felt. FBI chief investigator into   1132 02:31:44,719 --> 02:31:52,559 the locker crash, Buck Rall's son, was not the  last lucky passenger to miss flying on Panama 103.   1133 02:31:52,559 --> 02:31:59,200 Steven Green, acting administrator of the  DEA, also had a reservation on the flight.   1134 02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:07,120 Green has described being on the Heathro tarmac  watching the doomed plane take off. There seems   1135 02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:12,479 to be somewhere in the world some organization  which classifies people as either important or   1136 02:32:12,478 --> 02:32:20,159 unimportant. And Flora was important. Flora was a  superb person, a lovely girl, one who would make   1137 02:32:20,159 --> 02:32:24,159 so much contribution to the welfare and happiness  of the human race through her medicine and in so   1138 02:32:24,159 --> 02:32:30,079 many other ways. And she is just as important  as any diplomat or politician or anybody else   1139 02:32:30,079 --> 02:32:36,478 you care to name. I think there are a thousand  reasons why we brought her here. My family's been   1140 02:32:36,478 --> 02:32:42,239 deeply attached to this island for generations.  You can see the names on the stones. And Flora   1141 02:32:42,239 --> 02:32:46,558 herself loved the island very much when she was  a little girl. This was where we always came for   1142 02:32:46,559 --> 02:32:51,760 holidays and therefore it was a joyful place for  her to come and the natural beauty of the place.   1143 02:32:51,760 --> 02:32:57,200 It certainly affects me very much and it affected  her very much too I think and she loves the sound   1144 02:32:57,200 --> 02:33:04,000 of the sea and the wildness of the place of course  means flower but uh to us it's a name that's run   1145 02:33:04,000 --> 02:33:08,959 in our family for generations and um through  my mother's side we're actually descended from   1146 02:33:08,959 --> 02:33:16,559 Flora McDonald who um rescued Bonnie Prince  Charlie from the red coats in the 1745 and so   1147 02:33:16,559 --> 02:33:21,519 it's a name that to us doesn't just mean flower  but it does of course also in Latin mean flower   1148 02:33:21,520 --> 02:33:28,720 and she was very very very fond of flowers. Um  and that also is appropriate here because in the   1149 02:33:28,719 --> 02:33:36,399 piece here there are no vandals and cut off the  I feel that the bulbs that we planted around her   1150 02:33:36,398 --> 02:33:44,159 grave here will be left in peace to grow and  to flour and uh nobody will come desperate. 1151 02:33:45,200 --> 02:34:07,519 I think if she could have had a hand in saying  where her ashes were to be, she she isn't here. 1152 02:35:15,040 --> 02:35:20,880 I wear 1153 02:35:20,879 --> 02:35:32,479 and I dress with gems you're here and 1154 02:35:36,959 --> 02:35:46,639 last year for you. 1155 02:35:46,639 --> 02:35:48,079 and good. 153349

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