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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,419 Made a living out of fear and intrigue, Living Famously now on BBC2 uncovers the 2 00:00:04,420 --> 00:00:06,500 master of suspense, Alfred Hitchcock. 3 00:00:06,860 --> 00:00:13,779 When I'm not playing solitaire, I take a book down from 4 00:00:13,780 --> 00:00:14,830 the shelf. 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:23,139 And what with programmes on the air, I keep pretty much 6 00:00:23,140 --> 00:00:26,760 to myself, Mr Saturday Dance. 7 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:35,859 Heard they crowded the floor Couldn't bear it without 8 00:00:35,860 --> 00:00:40,559 you Don't get around much anymore 9 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,820 This is the scene of the crime. 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:51,020 A crime of passion, filmed in a way you have never seen before. 11 00:00:51,300 --> 00:00:53,420 And as no one else would dare attempt. 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,940 But the screen's master of suspense... 13 00:00:56,190 --> 00:00:59,350 the producer -director who shocked the world with Psycho. 14 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:00,640 Good evening. 15 00:01:00,990 --> 00:01:07,029 It is a rare man whose past does not return to haunt him. My past is about to 16 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:09,090 catch up with me on this very show. 17 00:01:09,430 --> 00:01:14,269 If you are interested in watching, you will be treated to a macabre succession 18 00:01:14,270 --> 00:01:18,010 of murders, mysteries, and crimes of passion. 19 00:01:19,930 --> 00:01:23,730 Alfred Hitchcock is probably the most famous director in film history. 20 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:28,779 He made his name and his fortune from scaring millions out of their wits. But 21 00:01:28,780 --> 00:01:30,819 his films were more than just entertainment. 22 00:01:30,820 --> 00:01:34,020 He put his own deepest fears on the silver screen. 23 00:01:36,660 --> 00:01:43,479 This process of frightening is done by means of a given 24 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,080 medium, the medium of pure cinema. 25 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,540 He changed filmmakers' ways of looking at things. 26 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:53,560 The assembly of pieces of film. 27 00:01:54,030 --> 00:01:55,080 to create fright. 28 00:01:55,530 --> 00:01:57,690 You can imitate Hitchcock. 29 00:01:57,890 --> 00:02:00,130 There's a uniqueness to his style. 30 00:02:01,090 --> 00:02:08,069 His wonderful ability to create complex characters and put them under 31 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:13,809 pressure that he builds and builds until you think the soul is just going to 32 00:02:13,810 --> 00:02:14,860 snap. 33 00:02:16,330 --> 00:02:18,010 They're coming! They're coming! 34 00:02:27,950 --> 00:02:31,170 Mr. Hitchcock, why do you always make mystery films? 35 00:02:32,290 --> 00:02:37,010 Well, life is a big mystery, isn't it? It always has been. 36 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:42,870 Alfred Joseph Hitchcock was born near London in 1899. 37 00:02:43,290 --> 00:02:47,389 I think his background had an awful lot to do with the kind of person Hitchcock 38 00:02:47,390 --> 00:02:48,440 became later on. 39 00:02:48,930 --> 00:02:54,429 The important thing about Alfred Hitchcock is that he was in every way a 40 00:02:54,430 --> 00:02:55,480 marginal person. 41 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,240 in the Victorian Edwardian society. 42 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,540 His father was a grocer. 43 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:08,060 Now today, there's no shame at all in being in trade, as they used to say 44 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:13,619 But at that time, if your father was a grocer, you were on the margins of 45 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:18,660 society. This very strict Roman Catholic upbringing, rather strict father, 46 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:25,259 brought up by Jesuits. In addition to that, He was an unattractive, fat little 47 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:30,740 boy who had an extremely overprotective mother. 48 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:36,899 I suppose it must have all started when I was in my mother's arms at the age of 49 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:37,950 six months. 50 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:41,240 And she said to me, boom. 51 00:03:42,060 --> 00:03:47,379 Now you put all of these things together, plus a vivid imagination 52 00:03:47,380 --> 00:03:51,680 and all of the elements of genius. 53 00:03:52,910 --> 00:03:58,269 And you have a person who is geared to being an outsider, and he was an 54 00:03:58,270 --> 00:04:02,569 for his whole life. Can you remember any specific incidents when you were 55 00:04:02,570 --> 00:04:03,730 frightened as a child? 56 00:04:04,350 --> 00:04:08,390 Well, I have a vague recollection of being scared by a policeman. 57 00:04:09,050 --> 00:04:14,029 I think that when I was probably about four or five years of age, being sent 58 00:04:14,030 --> 00:04:16,170 with a note to the local police station. 59 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:21,778 And he handed this note to the desk sergeant who read it and as a result 60 00:04:21,779 --> 00:04:24,979 him up in a cell for five minutes and then let him out and said, yeah, that's 61 00:04:24,980 --> 00:04:26,600 what we do to naughty little boys. 62 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,140 This is obviously what his father had asked the sergeant to do. 63 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,399 I don't even know what it was for. I was probably unjustly incarcerated at the 64 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,600 time. And I think that was something that he... 65 00:04:43,930 --> 00:04:47,690 has carried through his whole life in his relationship to authority. 66 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:53,629 But you see, the psychiatrist will always tell you, if you have a fear that 67 00:04:53,630 --> 00:04:58,649 rooted in you and comes from something in your childhood, the moment you can go 68 00:04:58,650 --> 00:05:00,910 back to it and release it, all is well. 69 00:05:01,230 --> 00:05:04,090 It doesn't apply to me. I'm still scared of placement. 70 00:05:04,610 --> 00:05:11,269 Hitch still had this feeling about authority, that it wasn't to be trusted 71 00:05:11,270 --> 00:05:12,320 completely. 72 00:05:15,310 --> 00:05:21,309 He was somebody who watched and thought. He was not an active boy, an almost 73 00:05:21,310 --> 00:05:28,289 precociously sedentary person who was starting to prepare himself to live his 74 00:05:28,290 --> 00:05:29,370 life precariously. 75 00:05:30,630 --> 00:05:35,289 The movies provided excitement and escape for an overweight loner with a 76 00:05:35,290 --> 00:05:36,340 clerical job. 77 00:05:37,530 --> 00:05:41,390 I was originally in an engineering firm. 78 00:05:42,380 --> 00:05:47,959 advertising department and I was the what was technically called a layer man 79 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:54,239 designing the ads I'm an advertising man not a red herring I've got a job a 80 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:58,599 secretary a mother two ex -wives and several bartenders depended upon me I 81 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:05,359 very keen movie goer and I heard that an American company were coming to London 82 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,560 to open the studio 83 00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:12,709 So I applied for the job of designing their titles, because those were the 84 00:06:12,710 --> 00:06:13,760 silent days. 85 00:06:13,950 --> 00:06:15,650 My father met my mother. 86 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:22,569 He had gone to the London School of Engineering, and he was a draft 87 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:23,620 artist. 88 00:06:23,910 --> 00:06:28,829 So somebody had said to him, why don't you go over to the studios and see if 89 00:06:28,830 --> 00:06:35,489 can get a job? So he went with this big portfolio of pictures, because this time 90 00:06:35,490 --> 00:06:36,540 it was silent movies. 91 00:06:37,610 --> 00:06:43,749 went to get a job of drawing titles, like, and the sun set, and he would draw 92 00:06:43,750 --> 00:06:45,630 the sun setting, and so on and so forth. 93 00:06:45,890 --> 00:06:49,589 And when he went over there, and my mother said she saw this young man come 94 00:06:49,590 --> 00:06:55,949 with this big portfolio, but she didn't speak to him because he didn't have a 95 00:06:55,950 --> 00:07:01,409 job. And in those days, a gentleman didn't talk to a lady, especially if she 96 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:02,550 a better job than he did. 97 00:07:05,070 --> 00:07:06,570 Always the master of suspense. 98 00:07:07,130 --> 00:07:10,789 Hitchcock decided to bide his time and threw himself into the world of 99 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:11,840 filmmaking. 100 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:19,049 Hitchcock was a self -made man, taught himself by reading technical newspapers 101 00:07:19,050 --> 00:07:25,749 for the trade, and then had to work his way up the ladder 102 00:07:25,750 --> 00:07:32,749 and achieve the power as well as the know -how to make 103 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:35,910 the films that he was going to go on to make. 104 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,340 He met the right kinds of people. 105 00:07:38,580 --> 00:07:44,260 One was Michael Balkan, who took over the studio where he was already working. 106 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,719 An English producer who was business -like and professional and who 107 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Hitchcock as a potential filmmaker. 108 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,059 Michael Balkan sent Hitchcock to Germany to learn his craft at the most advanced 109 00:07:57,060 --> 00:07:58,320 studios in the world. 110 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,080 There he learned so much about the technique, trick effect. 111 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:07,020 and the economy of filmmaking. 112 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:14,039 He simply amassed a level of experience unknown to today's people 113 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:20,099 who, after appearing as an actor in one or two pictures, say, I want to direct 114 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:21,220 my next picture. 115 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:23,380 Give me a good cameraman. 116 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:25,180 Well, Hitch knew all that. 117 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,440 But the introduction of talking pictures sent tremors through the film industry. 118 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,619 I can imagine that it must have been a bit of a shock to you personally when 119 00:08:41,620 --> 00:08:42,670 talkies came. 120 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,619 Well, the only thing wrong with the silent picture was that mouths opened 121 00:08:48,620 --> 00:08:49,700 sound came out. 122 00:08:50,020 --> 00:08:54,599 It's a bit like that asteroid which wiped out the dinosaurs from the Earth, 123 00:08:54,600 --> 00:09:00,279 huge disaster, but a stimulus to new growth and new evolution. And the coming 124 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,330 of... 125 00:09:01,550 --> 00:09:07,089 synchronised sound was a kind of disaster which wiped out such a lot 126 00:09:07,090 --> 00:09:08,140 silent cinema. 127 00:09:08,470 --> 00:09:15,469 Unfortunately, when talk came in, the Bulgarians, the money changers of the 128 00:09:15,470 --> 00:09:22,350 industry, immediately commenced to cash in by photographing stage plays. 129 00:09:22,630 --> 00:09:25,530 So that took the whole thing away from cinema completely. 130 00:09:26,010 --> 00:09:30,330 It's like a lot of films one sees today. Not that I see very many. 131 00:09:30,860 --> 00:09:36,559 but to me they're what I call photographs of people talking, and bears 132 00:09:36,560 --> 00:09:38,380 relation to the art of the cinema. 133 00:09:38,940 --> 00:09:44,799 Hitchcock, although he never became fully reconciled to synchronised sound 134 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:50,200 cinema, in that he always expressed regret for the passing of silent cinema, 135 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:55,760 because it was, in his words, the purest form of cinema, if you can't beat them, 136 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:57,000 you have to join them. 137 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:58,840 How do I look? Well... 138 00:10:00,010 --> 00:10:01,060 Now, wait a minute. 139 00:10:01,110 --> 00:10:02,390 This isn't quite right. 140 00:10:04,390 --> 00:10:07,670 Embracing the new technology, Hitchcock made Blackmail. 141 00:10:08,110 --> 00:10:11,730 Originally a silent movie, it became Britain's first talkie. 142 00:10:20,810 --> 00:10:25,689 Now the hottest director in town, Hitchcock married his sweetheart Alma, 143 00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:27,030 became his secret weapon. 144 00:10:27,850 --> 00:10:29,310 She had been a film editor. 145 00:10:30,270 --> 00:10:32,150 She was raised in the business. 146 00:10:33,050 --> 00:10:38,549 I think it's certainly the case that she was a right -hand person to him, an 147 00:10:38,550 --> 00:10:43,369 advisor. I think that she read his scripts, commented on them, looked at 148 00:10:43,370 --> 00:10:45,410 pictures, gave suggestions all the time. 149 00:10:45,570 --> 00:10:51,069 He would find a story, he would bring it home, have her read it. If she thought 150 00:10:51,070 --> 00:10:52,930 it would make a picture, he'd go ahead. 151 00:10:53,050 --> 00:10:56,690 If she said, no, it won't, he didn't even touch it. He had... 152 00:10:57,660 --> 00:11:02,819 She had an unerring judgment. He went right along with her judgment, and that 153 00:11:02,820 --> 00:11:04,200 was from the very beginning. 154 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:10,379 Over the next five years, Hitchcock made a series of hit films, culminating in 155 00:11:10,380 --> 00:11:15,999 The 39 Steps, a spy thriller about an ordinary man embroiled in a deadly 156 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,310 plot. You'd better do that from London. You'll be there soon enough. 157 00:11:19,940 --> 00:11:26,920 I have the honour in presenting to you one of the most remarkable men... 158 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,120 In the world, miss the memory. What are the 39 steps? 159 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,960 The 39 steps, I love. 160 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,639 I think it's a wonderful film. The Lady Vanishes, I love. I can watch that any 161 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,719 time. Set on board a train, the film gave the audience a rollercoaster ride 162 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,220 had never experienced before. 163 00:11:47,660 --> 00:11:51,359 The plot revolved around an innocent young woman who meets a mysterious 164 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,159 stranger. I know you think I'm crazy, but I'm not, I'm not! For heaven's sake, 165 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:56,210 stop this train! 166 00:11:59,270 --> 00:12:05,309 I don't think he missed the fact that, you know, there weren't the special 167 00:12:05,310 --> 00:12:09,169 effects available, the technology available that you've got now. I can't 168 00:12:09,170 --> 00:12:15,849 Hitchcock now wanting to make films stuffed with special effects and great, 169 00:12:15,850 --> 00:12:20,569 latest state -of -the -art technology. That's not the kind of film he made. I 170 00:12:20,570 --> 00:12:24,350 mean, he made films about, essentially he made films about people. 171 00:12:25,610 --> 00:12:27,390 See, the lady vanishes. 172 00:12:27,690 --> 00:12:31,770 Sit in breathless anticipation, gripped by its overwhelming excitement. 173 00:12:31,990 --> 00:12:35,849 And you'll know why it is hailed as the unmatched classic of breathtaking 174 00:12:35,850 --> 00:12:41,709 suspense. And why Hitchcock stands unrivaled as the incomparable master of 175 00:12:41,710 --> 00:12:42,760 thrills. 176 00:12:43,550 --> 00:12:45,190 La Signora Inglise. 177 00:12:45,410 --> 00:12:49,410 The English lady, where is she? There has been no English lady here. 178 00:12:49,770 --> 00:12:54,190 What? There has been no English lady here. 179 00:12:55,880 --> 00:13:02,020 Hitchcock is a fascinating test case in that you can see him learning his craft, 180 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:09,139 but also learning more and more about what the movies 181 00:13:09,140 --> 00:13:14,240 were. When you make a film, are you setting out to frighten men or women? 182 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:18,880 because 80 % of the audience in the cinema are women. 183 00:13:20,620 --> 00:13:24,480 Because, you see, even if the house is... 184 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,560 50 -50, half men, half women. 185 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:35,440 A good percentage of the men has said to his girl, being on the make, 186 00:13:35,560 --> 00:13:37,780 of course, what do you want to see, dear? 187 00:13:38,660 --> 00:13:41,340 So that's where her influence comes as well. 188 00:13:42,460 --> 00:13:48,239 His work in England was awfully good at that point. The end of it was the era of 189 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,580 the 39 steps and the lady vanishes. 190 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:57,199 He was surely one of the... best filmmakers in the world. The problem for 191 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,180 was he was getting larger than the English cinema was at that time. 192 00:14:02,820 --> 00:14:09,319 It would have been unthinkable that someone with that kind of vision would 193 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,880 have been working in Hollywood. 194 00:14:10,980 --> 00:14:16,379 That probably didn't make him popular with other people in the English cinema 195 00:14:16,380 --> 00:14:17,430 the time. 196 00:14:17,431 --> 00:14:22,579 It's an international problem. There are certain things that America just does 197 00:14:22,580 --> 00:14:28,719 bigger, if not better, than anywhere else. And at that time, Hitch wanted the 198 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,460 biggest, and this is where he came. 199 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,959 David O. Selvnick, fresh from producing Gone With the Wind, recognized 200 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,550 Hitchcock's potential and lured him to Hollywood. 201 00:14:42,140 --> 00:14:47,740 When he came to the United States, Hitchcock had moved way up. 202 00:14:48,190 --> 00:14:50,150 into a new class of filmmaking. 203 00:14:50,570 --> 00:14:56,330 However, he found himself in a subordinate position working for David 204 00:14:56,450 --> 00:15:00,050 who didn't always understand or agree with what he wanted. 205 00:15:00,310 --> 00:15:05,249 When Hitchcock came here, he was butting heads with one of the most powerful men 206 00:15:05,250 --> 00:15:11,229 in Hollywood, and certainly the authority that he was trying to avoid 207 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:15,630 life, he was now head -to -head with it in Hollywood. 208 00:15:17,540 --> 00:15:19,220 It's next to be done. 209 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:20,690 How do you do? 210 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,239 Hitchcock's first Hollywood film, Rebecca, was very much a British movie, 211 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:27,500 had an American producer. 212 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,780 The experience of making Rebecca wasn't much fun for Hitch. 213 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,839 Hitchcock knew exactly what he wanted, but Selznick was the old -fashioned 214 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,919 producer who saw himself as the author of the film, and he wanted total and 215 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,970 complete control. 216 00:15:43,980 --> 00:15:48,339 The film tells the story of a man who tries to replace his dead wife with a 217 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:52,160 woman. Whenever you touched me, I knew you were comparing me with Rebecca. 218 00:15:53,140 --> 00:15:56,960 They did not see eye to eye on very much. 219 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,219 Hitch made it work. He knew that he had to make it work if he was to survive one 220 00:16:01,220 --> 00:16:02,300 picture in Hollywood. 221 00:16:02,301 --> 00:16:06,859 What is the mystery of Rebecca? What dread secret is hidden within the silent 222 00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:07,980 walls of Manderley? 223 00:16:08,820 --> 00:16:12,260 Not only in this room, in all the rooms in the house. 224 00:16:17,330 --> 00:16:23,809 You could sum up the complexities of the 225 00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:27,509 relationship between Hitchcock and Selznick with Rebecca, the first film 226 00:16:27,510 --> 00:16:33,109 did together. It gave Hitchcock the best imaginable launch for a director's 227 00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:34,190 career in America. 228 00:16:34,510 --> 00:16:37,290 Best Picture Award with his first film. 229 00:16:37,291 --> 00:16:41,429 David O. Selznick and Alfred Hitchcock bring you the Grand Slam Prize winner 230 00:16:41,430 --> 00:16:43,230 that made motion picture history. 231 00:16:43,231 --> 00:16:47,369 winner of the Academy Award, voted by America's critics as the best picture of 232 00:16:47,370 --> 00:16:47,909 the year. 233 00:16:47,910 --> 00:16:52,589 In Rebecca, Hitchcock displayed a technical expertise never before seen in 234 00:16:52,590 --> 00:16:59,249 Hollywood. Hitchcock believed that films were the assembly of small 235 00:16:59,250 --> 00:17:03,550 bits of film to create an emotion and a mood. 236 00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:09,410 He believed in shooting films to get just the little bits. 237 00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:12,810 Selznick was absolutely unaccustomed to that. 238 00:17:13,349 --> 00:17:19,348 horrified at it, and realized, of course, that Hitchcock was shooting 239 00:17:19,349 --> 00:17:23,609 so that you could only edit the film one way, his way. 240 00:17:24,130 --> 00:17:31,009 I know every shot and every angle by 241 00:17:31,010 --> 00:17:35,570 heart. So I become innocent when I'm shooting the picture. 242 00:17:36,030 --> 00:17:38,950 I very rarely look at the script. 243 00:17:39,310 --> 00:17:42,970 because I've now by this time learned the dialogue myself. 244 00:17:43,210 --> 00:17:49,129 I rarely look at the script, and I'm perhaps equivalent, though maybe not so 245 00:17:49,130 --> 00:17:55,190 good as, a conductor conducting an orchestra without a score. 246 00:17:59,170 --> 00:18:03,730 What's specific to Hitchcock is he never shot a master through. 247 00:18:05,230 --> 00:18:10,309 And we never played the scene through or even read it through. It was little 248 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:13,850 pieces where the camera was continually moved. 249 00:18:20,110 --> 00:18:24,530 What he ultimately gave the editor were pieces to join. 250 00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:28,610 There was no extra stuff shot. 251 00:18:30,050 --> 00:18:33,410 I could have edited that scene because there was nothing to edit. 252 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,500 An editor wanted to work with Hitchcock. 253 00:18:38,660 --> 00:18:43,399 He said, sir, I would like to be somewhere in the editing of anywhere on 254 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,839 film, but you're somewhere in the editing department, because that's my 255 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,299 And he said, yes, you've got a very good background. 256 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:50,350 You can be my editor. 257 00:18:50,351 --> 00:18:54,899 And a few days later, the first rushes come through, and it's the editor's 258 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:59,360 responsibility to set it up so that they can see rushes at lunchtime. 259 00:19:00,060 --> 00:19:04,000 And he was setting it up, and at the end of each take, there was a... 260 00:19:04,001 --> 00:19:07,589 He thought, something's the matter with the camera. 261 00:19:07,590 --> 00:19:12,409 So he called up the labs and said, you know, there's this funny thing here. I 262 00:19:12,410 --> 00:19:15,840 said, don't worry, that's where Hitchcock wants you to cut the film. 263 00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:26,329 The fact that he had seen the film in advance in his mind is very important 264 00:19:26,330 --> 00:19:33,089 because it meant that the making of it was often for him slightly 265 00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:34,140 boring. 266 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,300 Drama is life with the dull bits cut out. 267 00:19:41,820 --> 00:19:48,699 The break, the understanding of Americana comes with Shadow of a Doubt. 268 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:53,060 in 1942, Hitch had been in America for almost four years. 269 00:19:53,860 --> 00:19:59,600 And this is the first really American picture by Hitchcock. 270 00:20:07,340 --> 00:20:11,940 The environment of Shadow of a Doubt was the idyllic community. 271 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:18,399 And into this wonderful community of very happy people 272 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,400 comes this evil influence. 273 00:20:23,860 --> 00:20:25,160 Uncle Charlie. 274 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,160 Let me go, Uncle Charlie! Let me go! 275 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,240 America was nearing the end of its war with Hitler. 276 00:20:34,410 --> 00:20:41,129 And the darkness that creeps into that idyllic small town that he so 277 00:20:41,130 --> 00:20:48,009 created up there is also the darkness that was entering the 278 00:20:48,010 --> 00:20:51,050 American experience through World War II. 279 00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:53,910 Do you know the world is a foul stye? 280 00:20:54,690 --> 00:20:58,410 Do you know if you rip the fronts off houses, you'd find swine? 281 00:20:58,930 --> 00:21:02,970 With Hitchcock, you stayed with this kind of reality. 282 00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:07,410 So that he could play his fairy tales against it. 283 00:21:07,970 --> 00:21:14,249 Which made it more, as he once said, you know, he said, if you bring somebody 284 00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:21,209 into a kitchen and they jump up on the kitchen table and scream, that's 285 00:21:21,210 --> 00:21:22,260 shocking. 286 00:21:23,950 --> 00:21:26,130 But if the kitchen looks like Dr. 287 00:21:26,530 --> 00:21:32,130 Caligari's cabinet, you expect somebody to jump up on the table and scream. 288 00:21:32,830 --> 00:21:37,809 And I think that was true. He did it against, he played everything against 289 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:40,770 reality. I don't want you to touch my mother. 290 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:43,510 So go away, I'm warning you. 291 00:21:43,830 --> 00:21:45,690 Go away or I'll kill you myself. 292 00:21:47,030 --> 00:21:51,829 Is there one rule above all others which is indispensable to a director who 293 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:53,390 wants to frighten an audience? 294 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:56,950 I think he should understand the psychology of audiences. 295 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:04,599 He should also know that audiences love to enjoy the very thing that they have 296 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:09,740 built in, and that's fear that all started when the mother said boo. 297 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:16,199 But for some inexplicable reason, they like to, how shall I say, put their toe 298 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,059 in the cold water of fear to see what it's like. That's why they go for rides 299 00:22:21,060 --> 00:22:25,860 switchbacks and scream and scream and then get off giggling. 300 00:22:27,210 --> 00:22:29,310 No, he was called a master of suspense. 301 00:22:31,810 --> 00:22:36,910 He was really a master of these phobias. 302 00:22:37,470 --> 00:22:44,109 He was frightened of success, frightened of failure, frightened of being hit by 303 00:22:44,110 --> 00:22:46,890 a car, frightened of illness, frightened. 304 00:22:47,690 --> 00:22:53,210 Almost everything, heights, wide open spaces, claustrophobic spaces. 305 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,039 All of these things, but the difference between his fears and other people's 306 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,560 fears, he could put it on film. 307 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,059 In the film Spellbound, Hitchcock explores the world of a man who has lost 308 00:23:06,060 --> 00:23:09,010 memory and suspects that he's committed a terrible crime. 309 00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:12,850 What insidious meaning did he read into the markings on a tablecloth? 310 00:23:13,220 --> 00:23:17,479 Why, even when he held his sweetheart in his arms, did he gaze in fear at the 311 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:18,640 dark lines of her robe? 312 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:22,530 Hitchcock's insight into fear gave him a string of hits. 313 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,700 made with Hollywood's brightest stars. 314 00:23:24,820 --> 00:23:30,019 Throughout the 40s, he was so successful in entertaining people, in creating 315 00:23:30,020 --> 00:23:34,800 films like Spellbound, first of three pictures with Ingrid Bergman. 316 00:23:38,020 --> 00:23:39,940 I take it this is your first honeymoon? 317 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,880 Yes. I mean, it would be if it were. 318 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,299 I think that from the days of his working with Ingrid Bergman, he was in 319 00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:58,760 habit of falling in love with his leading ladies. 320 00:23:59,340 --> 00:24:04,740 Hitchcock loved having beautiful women under his control. 321 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:12,299 I think he fantasized sexual relations and even marital 322 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:13,480 relations with them. 323 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:19,480 Once again, Hitchcock's most secret desires were plain for all the world to 324 00:24:20,060 --> 00:24:26,319 I think it was during the making of Notorious, a great film, a great 325 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,920 towering achievement. 326 00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:33,199 Bergman at her best, Cary Grant at his best, and Hitch at his best. And he said 327 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:39,819 of Bergman, he said, she threw herself across my bed, she 328 00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:41,740 wept, she wept. 329 00:24:42,931 --> 00:24:44,799 It was astonishing. 330 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,000 I didn't know what to say. 331 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:51,379 What you have to remember when you watch, for example, the famous kissing 332 00:24:51,380 --> 00:24:56,459 in Notorious is that it has three characters, and Hitchcock said this to 333 00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:57,510 Truffaut. 334 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,999 There's Harry Grant, there's Ingrid Bergman, who was probably Hitchcock's 335 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:08,039 favorite actress, and there's Hitchcock, who's watching all of this and filming 336 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:09,880 it from the off space. 337 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:14,100 And that's where we will eventually join him as members of the audience. 338 00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:21,289 Grant was a kind of surrogate, if you will, for the man Hitchcock 339 00:25:21,290 --> 00:25:22,870 would have liked to be. 340 00:25:25,170 --> 00:25:28,290 I'm sorry to intrude on this tender scene. 341 00:25:29,350 --> 00:25:32,810 I knew her before you did, loved her before you did. 342 00:25:33,210 --> 00:25:34,470 I wasn't as lucky as you. 343 00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:39,909 He was often a reverie. He just was... gone thinking about ingrid bergman i 344 00:25:39,910 --> 00:25:44,749 guess he was in love with her i mean i don't know ingrid bergman was quite a 345 00:25:44,750 --> 00:25:50,529 quite a swath in her youth you know she was any number of internationally famous 346 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:56,969 love affairs and she was often close to her directors and why not hitch what is 347 00:25:56,970 --> 00:25:59,530 it what's wrong with you 348 00:26:05,721 --> 00:26:14,029 With the success of Notorious, Hitchcock became one of Hollywood's most bankable 349 00:26:14,030 --> 00:26:15,080 directors. 350 00:26:15,670 --> 00:26:22,669 He ended up with a very good contract at Warner Brothers, and the first film 351 00:26:22,670 --> 00:26:29,509 made under that contract beginning 1950 also marked the beginning 352 00:26:29,510 --> 00:26:34,349 of the greatest period of his career. In fact, he said to everybody on the set 353 00:26:34,350 --> 00:26:39,579 the first day of shooting on Strangers on a Train, that his career was 354 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:41,750 today, nothing he had done before counted. 355 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Two fellows meet, like you and I. No connection between them whatsoever. 356 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,200 Each one has somebody that he'd like to get rid of. 357 00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:13,820 So, they swapped murders. 358 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:19,719 Fantastic, isn't it? You didn't know when Bruno proposed this pact that he 359 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,660 serious. Dead serious. 360 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,640 You had made the mistake of speaking to a stranger on a train. 361 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:31,059 And now, wherever you go, whatever you do, you find yourself dominated by his 362 00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:32,110 evil presence. 363 00:27:32,111 --> 00:27:35,839 Well, everybody knows what happened next. He made some of the best movies 364 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:41,039 made. Strangers on a Train, in a sense, really was a new beginning because he 365 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:46,159 was running his own show pretty much at Warner Brothers, and he made other good 366 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:53,119 films for Warner Brothers, but the real beginning is Paramount because 367 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,199 as soon as he went over to Paramount to make Rear Window, he found the ideal 368 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,780 working situation, and he proceeded to make... 369 00:28:00,270 --> 00:28:03,730 an unbroken series of nine masterpieces. 370 00:28:04,170 --> 00:28:08,349 This is the apartment of a man named Jeffries, a news photographer whose beat 371 00:28:08,350 --> 00:28:09,400 used to be the world. 372 00:28:10,250 --> 00:28:13,850 Right now, his world has shrunk down to the size of this window. 373 00:28:15,070 --> 00:28:17,360 He's been watching the people across the way. 374 00:28:17,930 --> 00:28:21,610 Nobody seems to pull their blinds during a hot spell like this. 375 00:28:22,170 --> 00:28:24,010 He knows a lot about them by now. 376 00:28:24,510 --> 00:28:25,670 Too much, perhaps. 377 00:28:26,810 --> 00:28:29,310 I think the whole notion of rear window, 378 00:28:31,790 --> 00:28:35,589 Where again, you have another kind of surrogate film director, a man with a 379 00:28:35,590 --> 00:28:41,509 camera lens, broken leg, can't move, in his apartment, looking out at a whole 380 00:28:41,510 --> 00:28:44,910 series of apartments that are actually movie screens. 381 00:28:45,310 --> 00:28:50,530 Looking at lots of different screens, seeing lots of different stories going 382 00:28:50,610 --> 00:28:53,010 and how, the way in which they come together. 383 00:28:53,570 --> 00:28:58,430 Just, just extraordinarily beautiful. 384 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:03,420 For instance, down there on the second floor, the woman pacing about. 385 00:29:03,660 --> 00:29:05,960 He calls her Miss Lonely Hearts. 386 00:29:06,180 --> 00:29:09,280 So lonely that even death seems like a friend. 387 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,280 This is the traveling salesman and his invalid wife. 388 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:18,460 Out of their arguments and nagging comes a weird kind of love. 389 00:29:20,060 --> 00:29:22,620 Miss Torso, the body beautiful. 390 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,600 That is, viewed from a safe distance. 391 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,880 Those are just a few of my neighbors. 392 00:29:29,930 --> 00:29:33,729 First I watched them just to kill time, but then I couldn't take my eyes off 393 00:29:33,730 --> 00:29:35,470 them, just as you would be able to. 394 00:29:36,010 --> 00:29:40,049 Alfred Hitchcock, more than once you've said the secret of making a quality 395 00:29:40,050 --> 00:29:45,029 suspense motion picture is to put an average man in bizarre situations, to 396 00:29:45,030 --> 00:29:48,750 threaten the audience with the thought that this could happen to you. 397 00:29:48,751 --> 00:29:52,589 Now this seems an oversimplification, but is it basically what you're still 398 00:29:52,590 --> 00:29:53,640 trying to do? 399 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Actually, the central figure who is, shall we say, being attacked or on the 400 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:10,220 if he's a familiar figure, average man and also a familiar star, 401 00:30:10,580 --> 00:30:15,680 the story values are increased accordingly. 402 00:30:16,340 --> 00:30:21,619 Everyone uses the label Master of Suspense for Hitchcock, and clearly 403 00:30:21,620 --> 00:30:24,880 inadequate to him because he wasn't just a maker of thrillers. 404 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:29,110 And I think he probably got rather irritated with the term. 405 00:30:29,490 --> 00:30:36,070 And yet, it does represent something quite profound about Hitchcock. 406 00:30:36,510 --> 00:30:43,509 Hitch had a wonderful definition of suspense, and he defined it as a 407 00:30:43,510 --> 00:30:44,560 shock. 408 00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:50,229 And the story he told was that there are a group of men sitting around a table 409 00:30:50,230 --> 00:30:51,370 having a board meeting. 410 00:30:53,850 --> 00:30:56,410 In the midst of the meeting, a bomb explodes. 411 00:30:56,850 --> 00:30:59,370 The audience will get five seconds of shock. 412 00:31:00,090 --> 00:31:04,109 But if we tell them five minutes ahead of time, there is a bomb that's going to 413 00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:05,160 go off. 414 00:31:06,830 --> 00:31:12,889 And we cut away to underneath a cabinet, and we see a clock 415 00:31:12,890 --> 00:31:17,990 strapped to several sticks of dynamite, and the hands are ticking. 416 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:20,210 Now we get five minutes of suspense. 417 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,050 Well, we didn't have suspenseful because the audience were in ignorance. 418 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,580 Vertigo. A feeling of dizziness. A swimming in the head. 419 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,939 Figuratively, a state in which all things seem to be engulfed in a 420 00:31:36,940 --> 00:31:41,279 terror. As created by Alfred Hitchcock in the story that gives new meaning to 421 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,330 the word suspense. 422 00:31:54,190 --> 00:32:00,149 In a film like Vertigo, James Stewart doesn't know the identity of the woman, 423 00:32:00,150 --> 00:32:05,769 for a long time we're in suspense about whether he will find out and what he 424 00:32:05,770 --> 00:32:07,990 will do if and when he does find out. 425 00:32:07,991 --> 00:32:11,969 What was the strange attraction that brought these two together in spite of 426 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:13,650 dark forces that tore them apart? 427 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:21,169 The passage in Vertigo, early on, in which, in this beautiful city, San 428 00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:22,220 Francisco, 429 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,220 James Stewart follows the Kim Novak character. 430 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,180 It's nearly silent cinema. 431 00:32:29,140 --> 00:32:36,019 I think that that is an absolute model of visual storytelling, steadily 432 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:42,719 building suspense and making us more 433 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:48,239 and more fascinated with the Novak figure as the Stewart character is 434 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,920 fascinated with her. I think that is just... 435 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,520 Sublime filmmaking. 436 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:19,779 In stark contrast to his on -screen alter egos, Hitchcock's private life was 437 00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:21,540 apparently happy and contented. 438 00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:30,079 To rest from work, actually, they did very little. He read a lot, and I 439 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:36,500 was very close to my mother, and we would go out together and do various 440 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Go to the movies a lot. 441 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:45,419 I have a friend who managed a repertory cinema here in Los Angeles and said they 442 00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:49,379 used to come in and watch movies together all the time, no matter what 443 00:33:49,380 --> 00:33:51,550 matter what kind. They were real film buffs. 444 00:33:51,980 --> 00:33:53,240 They loved what they did. 445 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:58,680 And she created a secure haven for him. 446 00:33:59,020 --> 00:34:05,679 It seemed that they had a very tranquil and very well -adjusted 447 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:11,619 family life, an orthodox bourgeois family life centered on the kitchen and 448 00:34:11,620 --> 00:34:13,159 centered on the day's work. 449 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,440 I would go over to visit my father on the set. My mother would take me over. 450 00:34:20,460 --> 00:34:25,379 It was just a normal thing for me, because that's where my father worked. 451 00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:29,999 was like other children would go to visit their fathers in the office. I 452 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,050 go on the set. 453 00:34:34,580 --> 00:34:38,719 Your new film is called Psycho. Can you tell me something about it? 454 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,620 Well, Psycho is my first attempt at a shocker. 455 00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:47,960 In other words, it has in its content... 456 00:34:48,350 --> 00:34:50,530 certain episodes which do shock. 457 00:34:51,050 --> 00:34:56,309 In some sense, it could be called a horror film, but the horror only comes 458 00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:59,230 you after you've seen it, when you get home. 459 00:35:05,490 --> 00:35:12,389 When I 460 00:35:12,390 --> 00:35:18,569 first saw Psycho, I was kind of disappointed. I thought, well, This is a 461 00:35:18,570 --> 00:35:20,949 with three great moments and nothing much else. 462 00:35:20,950 --> 00:35:26,449 And then I went away, and I suppose I saw it again about six months later, and 463 00:35:26,450 --> 00:35:30,889 realised that I'd missed an awful lot. The three great moments had so 464 00:35:30,890 --> 00:35:34,169 overwhelmed my memory of the film that I'd forgotten all the subtlety in 465 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:36,150 between. It's a wonderful movie, Psycho. 466 00:35:36,510 --> 00:35:40,310 The content, as such, was, I felt, rather amusing. 467 00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:43,810 And it was a bit of a joke, you know. 468 00:35:44,010 --> 00:35:47,190 And I was horrified to find that some people took it seriously. 469 00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:53,779 It was intended to cause people to scream and yell and so forth, but no 470 00:35:53,780 --> 00:35:56,730 than the screaming and yelling on the switchback railway. 471 00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:01,959 He preferred his English films because Americans didn't understand his sense of 472 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:08,119 humor, and he was not often allowed to do here what he had done in England. I 473 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:14,939 think that Psycho is the perfect counterexample of that, because I think 474 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:16,300 it is him. 475 00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:21,719 through and through with no compromises. He made it for a very low budget over 476 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:23,240 everybody else's dead body. 477 00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:27,919 It was the film he wanted to see, and then it turned out that the whole rest 478 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,380 the world wanted to see it too. 479 00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:36,920 He loved to do trailers, handmade trailers. 480 00:36:37,180 --> 00:36:41,659 There's a very funny one for Thaiko, for instance, where he sort of gives you a 481 00:36:41,660 --> 00:36:45,580 brief conducted tour of the motel. 482 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:47,300 Good afternoon. 483 00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:53,150 Here we have a quiet little motel. 484 00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:59,230 And in this house, the most dire, horrible events took place. 485 00:36:59,890 --> 00:37:05,869 It's difficult to describe the way that the twisting of the... Well, it's... 486 00:37:05,870 --> 00:37:10,850 Well, the murderer, you see, crept in here. 487 00:37:11,470 --> 00:37:14,530 Very slowly. Of course, the shower was on. There was... 488 00:37:14,890 --> 00:37:15,940 No sound. 489 00:37:16,241 --> 00:37:17,969 And... 490 00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:36,129 When 491 00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:41,369 Psycho opened, all over the world, there were life -size figures, cardboard cut 492 00:37:41,370 --> 00:37:42,420 -out figures. 493 00:37:42,570 --> 00:37:46,609 of Hitchcock in the lobby of the theatre saying, you can't come in after it's 494 00:37:46,610 --> 00:37:50,510 started, which, you know, unheard of discipline. 495 00:37:50,511 --> 00:37:54,289 He would not let people into that movie after it had begun, and that was 496 00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:55,340 strictly enforced. 497 00:37:55,550 --> 00:37:59,210 As you will have seen, murder seems to be the prominent theme. 498 00:37:59,910 --> 00:38:05,410 As I do not approve of the current wave of violence that we see on our screens, 499 00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:09,590 I have always felt that murder should be treated delicately. 500 00:38:10,070 --> 00:38:15,679 And in addition to that, With the help of television, murder should be brought 501 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,520 into the home where it rightly belongs. 502 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:25,540 In 1955, his own television series, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, began in 503 00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:29,300 It became one of the most popular television series ever made. 504 00:38:29,620 --> 00:38:35,899 A very popular TV show in which he appeared at the beginning and the end of 505 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:39,160 show in often very funny... 506 00:38:39,810 --> 00:38:41,250 introductions and comments. 507 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:43,430 Good evening. 508 00:38:43,790 --> 00:38:49,869 Of late, I have grown weary of being a sex symbol and have decided to return to 509 00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:50,920 television. 510 00:38:51,270 --> 00:38:56,569 I remind you that before I posed for that famous photograph in the centerfold 511 00:38:56,570 --> 00:39:00,910 that magazine, I was known as a man of mystery and suspense. 512 00:39:01,310 --> 00:39:07,109 To reestablish my reputation as a man of intrigue, join me as I bring you this 513 00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:14,059 story. Notice that I do so while fully clothed. We know from this TV show that 514 00:39:14,060 --> 00:39:16,110 he was very good at making fun of himself. 515 00:39:16,780 --> 00:39:23,399 In fact, I've heard it said that only someone of Irish descent could be so 516 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,859 successful throughout his career at sending up the idea of the pompous 517 00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:32,120 Englishman. It's all a matter of one's attitude. 518 00:39:32,860 --> 00:39:34,240 As you know... 519 00:39:34,730 --> 00:39:38,930 This is part of a series. I have three other towels just like it. 520 00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:44,310 It made him a figure. 521 00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:49,509 The point I wish to prove is that you will be caught up in the frightening 522 00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:55,729 of this tale despite its introduction by such a jovial, cheerful person as 523 00:39:55,730 --> 00:40:01,190 myself. He actually didn't become really, you know... 524 00:40:02,410 --> 00:40:07,189 That well -known until after the television series. Then he couldn't go 525 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:13,749 anywhere. Loosen your girdle and flee with me to the marvelous magic 526 00:40:13,750 --> 00:40:15,290 world of commercials. 527 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:16,800 Who knows? 528 00:40:17,370 --> 00:40:19,390 We may also see a story. 529 00:40:19,770 --> 00:40:24,669 Everyone recognized him. Now, of course, all along, he had had this little trick 530 00:40:24,670 --> 00:40:27,750 of a tiny appearance in his own films. 531 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:29,860 which is part of the same thing. 532 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:31,760 Don't forget this man. 533 00:40:32,380 --> 00:40:36,519 He has plenty to do with the terrifying mystery that causes this glamorous woman 534 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,399 to risk her life and reputation in a reckless experiment. 535 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:44,240 And, of course, it made him an internationally known figure. 536 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,799 And that's a part of why Hitchcock is so well -known, that we know what he 537 00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:54,799 looked like. A lot of people couldn't tell you what John Ford looked like, 538 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,060 Howard Hawks looked like. 539 00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:58,300 We know what Hitchcock looked like. 540 00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:03,359 Your television series, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, now I know you didn't direct 541 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,339 all those films yourself, but is the technique that you adopt there basically 542 00:41:08,340 --> 00:41:11,400 the same as you use for the cinema or quite different? 543 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:18,839 The economics alone demand a completely different 544 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,860 handling of the medium. In other words, television on film. 545 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:31,519 There's a much, shall we say, faster operation than the feature 546 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:37,580 film. In the feature film, we get about a minute and a half cut film a day. 547 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,440 Television, we get nine minutes. 548 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:43,580 So it's a totally different thing altogether. 549 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,320 Whilst producing his TV series, Hitchcock made the film North by 550 00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:55,429 in which Cary Grant plays a man who's mistaken for a secret agent and then 551 00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:56,690 pursued across America. 552 00:42:03,150 --> 00:42:05,450 I'm an advertising man, not a red herring. 553 00:42:05,770 --> 00:42:09,749 I've got a job, a secretary, a mother, two ex -wives and several bartenders 554 00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:10,800 dependent upon me. 555 00:42:10,801 --> 00:42:14,549 And I don't intend to disappoint them all by getting myself slightly killed. 556 00:42:14,550 --> 00:42:16,470 It was interesting because I... 557 00:42:17,310 --> 00:42:22,629 was curious how, you know, I didn't read for it or anything, and I was cast in 558 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:23,680 this role. 559 00:42:23,950 --> 00:42:27,550 It's a scene where I get punched just before the take. 560 00:42:28,090 --> 00:42:34,749 Hitchcock says to the first assistant, tell me, does Landau work tomorrow and 561 00:42:34,750 --> 00:42:35,800 the next day? 562 00:42:38,050 --> 00:42:42,170 The assistant director said, why, Mr. Hitchcock, why? 563 00:42:42,990 --> 00:42:49,349 And he said, because in this take I'd like James to really hit him, I'd like 564 00:42:49,350 --> 00:42:50,400 jaw to come apart. 565 00:42:52,470 --> 00:42:57,210 There's no way to manufacture that, excepting with a real blow. 566 00:43:00,550 --> 00:43:05,789 You have to put it, though, in the context of a film set where practical 567 00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:06,840 are not uncommon. 568 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:12,370 His did, by all reports, reach a level of cruelty that... 569 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,619 It does make you wonder what was going on in his mind, the notion of 570 00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:20,959 an actor to something and then feeding him full of laxatives and then going 571 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,940 away. I mean, that's grotesque. 572 00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:27,220 You once told me that actors were cattle to be shoved about. 573 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,140 I wonder if you care to enlarge on that. 574 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,560 Do you mean you want to make them larger cattle than they are? 575 00:43:33,860 --> 00:43:34,910 No, no. 576 00:43:35,020 --> 00:43:37,840 Well, I don't, that's really a joke. 577 00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:39,680 But, um... 578 00:43:40,110 --> 00:43:46,989 They're children, you know, and invariably the problem one always has 579 00:43:46,990 --> 00:43:52,109 with actors is coping with their ego. But they have to have the ego and they 580 00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:57,649 have to be ultra -sensitive, otherwise they wouldn't be able to do what is 581 00:43:57,650 --> 00:44:02,509 of them. I think he was probably an easy man to work for, so long as you knew 582 00:44:02,510 --> 00:44:03,970 what you were doing and did it. 583 00:44:04,170 --> 00:44:07,510 But I don't think he'd be a man who'd suffer fools gladly. 584 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:14,639 And, yeah, I mean, I don't think anybody who was going to shirk the job lasted 585 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:19,699 the whole length of a Hitchcock shoot, because I think he probably would be a 586 00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:20,750 tough man to work for. 587 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:24,910 Apparently the only performance that will satisfy you is when I play dead. 588 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,079 You invariably appear in your own films, Mr Hitchcock. Have you ever been 589 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,940 tempted to become an actor yourself? 590 00:44:31,180 --> 00:44:32,720 Nothing so low as that. 591 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,920 He did pick on one actor quite a bit. 592 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:41,139 And one wondered why, but he was the powerful Hitchcock and let everyone know 593 00:44:41,140 --> 00:44:45,420 on the set. And he demanded the ultimate, anything. 594 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,940 He demanded so much from actors. 595 00:44:49,260 --> 00:44:53,179 If one had had a big part, I don't know how I'd have reacted at that age. I 596 00:44:53,180 --> 00:44:54,560 think you know how to fold it. 597 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:57,360 Great man telling me, shouting at me. 598 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,220 It's the difficulty of stars. 599 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,180 They want to be writers today. You know, they want to be producers. 600 00:45:05,450 --> 00:45:10,150 They won't stick like any decent cobbler would to their last, you know. 601 00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:11,690 He was intimidating. 602 00:45:13,870 --> 00:45:16,470 But you weren't afraid of him. 603 00:45:16,850 --> 00:45:23,549 I never saw Hitch really doing 604 00:45:23,550 --> 00:45:24,930 that much with actors. 605 00:45:25,830 --> 00:45:27,110 Again, it was trust. 606 00:45:27,630 --> 00:45:32,590 I used to feel left out because I remember in the auction gallery scene 607 00:45:33,810 --> 00:45:37,530 Cary Grant, James Mason, even Rhi and I are all in this. 608 00:45:38,030 --> 00:45:43,570 He whispered something to every one of the actors but me. I felt left out. 609 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:47,890 Coming from the theater, you know, the director tells you something. 610 00:45:48,430 --> 00:45:52,469 And he just went by me, and I walked over to him. I said, is there anything 611 00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:53,169 want to tell me? 612 00:45:53,170 --> 00:45:56,950 He said, Martin, I'll only tell you if I don't like what you're doing. 613 00:45:57,770 --> 00:45:59,010 Sometimes one... 614 00:45:59,390 --> 00:46:06,269 gets into little difficulties with the American people is that they 615 00:46:06,270 --> 00:46:10,410 want everything spelled out, you know, exactly. 616 00:46:10,950 --> 00:46:16,269 And they worry about content. I don't care about content at all. The film can 617 00:46:16,270 --> 00:46:21,169 about anything you like, so long as I'm making that audience react in a certain 618 00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:24,330 way to whatever I put on the screen. 619 00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:28,630 Hitch was nominated for director five times. 620 00:46:29,230 --> 00:46:32,110 During his Hollywood career, he never won. 621 00:46:32,770 --> 00:46:39,729 It does show how far, in his great days, Hollywood thought of him 622 00:46:39,730 --> 00:46:41,710 as just an entertainer. 623 00:46:42,350 --> 00:46:48,209 This seems impossible to us. Why didn't he win? He was simply too entertaining 624 00:46:48,210 --> 00:46:49,850 and too successful. 625 00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:56,469 The power of cinema in its purest form is so vast because it can go over the 626 00:46:56,470 --> 00:46:58,590 whole world on a given night. 627 00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:06,119 A film can play in Tokyo, West Berlin, London, New York, and the same audience 628 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,280 is responding emotionally to the same things. 629 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:17,299 Despite all his successes, Hitchcock was still deeply insecure and reinvented 630 00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:18,740 himself on the silver screen. 631 00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:22,940 Directors often live out their fantasies on film. 632 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,140 Hitchcock's inner life... 633 00:47:25,610 --> 00:47:31,009 had a great deal of erotic turmoil in it. I don't see how anyone could 634 00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:32,570 with that or see it differently. 635 00:47:33,310 --> 00:47:40,029 Women were beautiful, elusive, and untouchable 636 00:47:40,030 --> 00:47:44,950 until some wonderful fellow came along and then that all changed. 637 00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:47,690 That wonderful fellow was usually Cary Grant. 638 00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:53,170 It was Hitchcock's personal burden not to look anything like Cary Grant. 639 00:47:53,490 --> 00:47:57,950 Adventurous Cary, romanced by the kind of blonde that gets into a man's blood. 640 00:47:58,310 --> 00:48:03,509 He seems to have used Cary Grant as his wish fulfillment, alter ego, and James 641 00:48:03,510 --> 00:48:07,970 Stewart as his more realistic alter ego, with more hang -ups. 642 00:48:08,390 --> 00:48:12,249 First I watched them just to kill time, but then I couldn't take my eyes off 643 00:48:12,250 --> 00:48:13,390 them. After all... 644 00:48:13,690 --> 00:48:18,710 James Stewart has a broken leg in Rear Window and has vertigo in Vertigo. 645 00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:27,730 So he's sort of crippled in both. He has an enforced sedentary life in both, 646 00:48:27,830 --> 00:48:32,830 like Hitchcock's sedentary life, whereas Cary Grant is debonair, a charmer. 647 00:48:33,230 --> 00:48:35,010 How do I know you aren't a murderer? 648 00:48:35,610 --> 00:48:36,850 You don't. 649 00:48:37,740 --> 00:48:42,219 I think he was in love with quite a lot, in a way, with his leading ladies, and 650 00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:43,720 he probably lusted after them. 651 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,540 He was infatuated with, you know, lots of women. 652 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:53,459 There is, I think you'd agree, Mr. Hitchcock, a Hitchcock woman, very tall, 653 00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:58,440 cool, iceberg outside and dampened down fires within. 654 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:04,299 But why is she always blonde? I think that's traditional. I think that dates 655 00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:06,400 back to Mary Pickford, if you remember. 656 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,659 Tradition of the cinema is that the hero was always a dark man and the heroine 657 00:49:12,660 --> 00:49:13,710 was always a blonde. 658 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:19,880 I think it's the simplification of identification, really. 659 00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:25,859 There's no question that his leading ladies of recent years were all blonde 660 00:49:25,860 --> 00:49:26,910 ladies. 661 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:33,740 Even, you know, Kim Novak in Vertigo. 662 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:35,450 Grace Kelly. 663 00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:38,790 Grace was the ideal Hitchcock cool blonde. 664 00:49:39,290 --> 00:49:42,630 Hitch loved the disparity between appearance and reality. 665 00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:47,689 The cool composed English blonde was a 666 00:49:47,690 --> 00:49:54,289 jumble of passions in Hitchcock's fantasy 667 00:49:54,290 --> 00:49:55,340 life. 668 00:49:57,270 --> 00:49:59,070 They're coming! They're coming! 669 00:50:00,310 --> 00:50:05,679 But in his next film, The Bird, Hitchcock's fantasies spilled over into 670 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,660 with starlet Tippi Hedren. 671 00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:14,539 He saw her on a commercial, I think it was a cigarette commercial, and he sent 672 00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:20,560 for her. This woman came in, and I saw that she was blonde, 673 00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:27,759 and she had been a model. And she was walking, and she walked away from us, 674 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,780 I said, she's got the job. 675 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:32,400 Because she was... 676 00:50:32,620 --> 00:50:37,260 The kind of a person he would be amenable to. 677 00:50:38,020 --> 00:50:42,639 Signed her to a seven -year contract before they even met. I mean, he set up 678 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,820 the mechanisms for it. 679 00:50:44,820 --> 00:50:48,120 And here was going to be his ultimate fantasy blonde. 680 00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:53,160 Then it became a kind of training process. 681 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,120 If I do what you tell me, will you love me? 682 00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:01,900 Yes. An unfortunate thing happened, however. 683 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,860 He tried really not just to guide her, but indeed to possess her. 684 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:15,500 So to control whom she saw in her private time, whom she was dating, 685 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:19,100 what she wore away from the set. 686 00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:26,359 She wanted to go off to some charity event for a couple of days, and she 687 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,819 that it wouldn't actually make a great deal of difference to the filming 688 00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:31,440 schedule. And I don't think it would have done. 689 00:51:31,930 --> 00:51:36,829 But Hitchcock wouldn't let her do it. He said that if she went off to this 690 00:51:36,830 --> 00:51:40,249 charity event, she would get out of the character and it would be hard to bring 691 00:51:40,250 --> 00:51:42,549 her back into character and she had to stay there. 692 00:51:42,550 --> 00:51:48,909 And this young woman, who was willing to do everything for the picture, drew a 693 00:51:48,910 --> 00:51:49,960 line. 694 00:51:56,450 --> 00:51:58,970 The way I described the final... 695 00:52:00,570 --> 00:52:07,329 indiscretion, the moment that destroyed everything, is that he made an overt 696 00:52:07,330 --> 00:52:09,610 sexual proposition to her. 697 00:52:10,770 --> 00:52:14,929 Many other actresses would go along with such a thing for the sake of their 698 00:52:14,930 --> 00:52:19,149 career. Hollywood and I suppose every other profession are well known for such 699 00:52:19,150 --> 00:52:23,030 instances. It was not in Tippi Hedren's character to do this. 700 00:52:24,190 --> 00:52:28,930 I mean, this was his frustration that it was 701 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:38,449 Impossible. He had to choose a woman who could remain on a pedestal 702 00:52:38,450 --> 00:52:39,730 and deny him. 703 00:52:39,970 --> 00:52:41,650 It's psychology 101. 704 00:52:42,670 --> 00:52:45,250 Also, he was very much in love with Alma. 705 00:52:46,310 --> 00:52:49,710 So this was another part of his life. 706 00:52:50,910 --> 00:52:57,609 And one that I think all of us understood and to some degree respected 707 00:52:57,610 --> 00:53:00,590 because of our understanding. 708 00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,860 That life isn't always very simple. 709 00:53:07,060 --> 00:53:12,600 Once begun on this downward path, you never know where you are to stop. 710 00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:20,079 Already rejected by Tippy, Hitchcock also found himself out of touch with 711 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,130 audiences. 712 00:53:21,260 --> 00:53:27,439 He was well into his 60s then, and he'd had nearly 40 years as a director, and 713 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:33,100 that's a pretty good long time. It's not surprising if he was getting... 714 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:39,519 at a time when many directors have retired, and was feeling his age, his 715 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:46,520 was declining, and a younger generation was taking over in Hollywood, 716 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,220 and new directors coming through, and was he keeping up with the times? 717 00:53:50,620 --> 00:53:56,600 It's hard for me to look at myself and say I'm losing my edge. 718 00:53:57,140 --> 00:54:02,380 I know that I couldn't do what these young art directors are doing today. 719 00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:07,710 He didn't seem to find it easy to find subjects. 720 00:54:09,010 --> 00:54:15,709 And he didn't have Cary Grant and James Stewart working with him anymore. It was 721 00:54:15,710 --> 00:54:18,710 odd because his mind was still working. 722 00:54:19,490 --> 00:54:22,990 It was a kind of lag that occurred. 723 00:54:23,630 --> 00:54:28,990 But he would sit there and come up with ideas. 724 00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:33,210 He did have one fine film left in him. 725 00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:42,280 It had an elegiac quality about it that was not immediate. 726 00:54:42,281 --> 00:54:46,459 I mean, I think one of the reasons he wanted to shoot that movie, he said it, 727 00:54:46,460 --> 00:54:49,879 was he wanted to shoot Covent Garden before the whole thing was gone. 728 00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,230 You'll remember his father was a greengrocer. 729 00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:57,119 Hitchcock had grown up in the world of that sort of thing, and he wanted his 730 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,960 cameras there to record it before it was gone. 731 00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:08,019 But after finishing the film Frenzy, Hitchcock's career and health went into 732 00:55:08,020 --> 00:55:09,070 decline. 733 00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:18,279 One has to acknowledge with sadness, one has to assess but not judge, the fact 734 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,870 that Alfred Hitchcock's last years were not happy. 735 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:24,480 They were not happy at all. 736 00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:29,940 He was never more friendless to... 737 00:55:31,090 --> 00:55:36,630 soothes his loneliness and his bitterness, his fear of being forgotten, 738 00:55:36,850 --> 00:55:42,130 and his dismay over his own indiscretion in the Tippi Hedren episode. 739 00:55:42,810 --> 00:55:45,790 He became a tragically indulgent drinker. 740 00:55:46,310 --> 00:55:47,430 He was depressed. 741 00:55:47,730 --> 00:55:54,129 He was 78, and he was wearing out. He had awful arthritis in his knees, and he 742 00:55:54,130 --> 00:55:58,870 kept cognac in the loo there in his office, and he... 743 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,320 go in there and knock back a few during the day. 744 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,620 He was less and less able to function as he had always functioned. 745 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,860 And we could see it closing down. 746 00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:19,099 And there was a great sadness among those of us who worked with him who 747 00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:21,000 maintained his office. 748 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,860 And so it just kind of gradually faded away. 749 00:56:26,340 --> 00:56:27,480 It was too bad. 750 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:29,770 but inevitable. 751 00:56:30,580 --> 00:56:34,940 Alfred Hitchcock's life was spinning out his fantasies. 752 00:56:35,660 --> 00:56:40,120 And when he could no longer do that, physically, he died. 753 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:47,660 On April 28, 1980, Alfred Hitchcock died of liver failure. He was 80 years old. 754 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:53,520 Alfred Hitchcock was neither an angel nor a demon. 755 00:56:54,410 --> 00:56:59,430 The naive people who claim that he was a simple, sweet, shy, loving, generous, 756 00:56:59,570 --> 00:57:05,129 quiet man have a great burden of proof that this is the man who could give us 757 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:09,649 strangers on a train, psycho and frenzy, not to mention a host of others. That's 758 00:57:09,650 --> 00:57:10,700 naive. 759 00:57:11,150 --> 00:57:15,250 And the people who say that he was a monster are equally naive. 760 00:57:16,030 --> 00:57:22,850 He had a wide, sadistic streak that was always at war with the most gentle, 761 00:57:23,390 --> 00:57:26,130 childish plea for love and acceptance. 762 00:57:26,810 --> 00:57:30,170 The little fat boy was always that. 763 00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:37,010 Part of his strategy and his public image seems to have been to be 764 00:57:37,370 --> 00:57:41,330 I think the answer is we know him through his films. 765 00:57:42,290 --> 00:57:43,890 He was a storyteller. 766 00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:49,830 And I don't think storytellers ever really die. 767 00:57:49,831 --> 00:57:51,929 You mentioned a switchback railway. 768 00:57:51,930 --> 00:57:54,790 You do see yourself as a switchback railway operator. 769 00:57:55,110 --> 00:58:01,870 Well, I'm possibly, in some respects, the man who says, in constructing it, 770 00:58:01,990 --> 00:58:04,850 how steep can we make the first dip? 771 00:58:05,590 --> 00:58:07,710 And this will make them scream. 772 00:58:09,550 --> 00:58:15,029 If you make the dip too deep, the screams will continue as the whole car 773 00:58:15,030 --> 00:58:17,230 over the edge and destroys everyone. 774 00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:23,339 But therefore, you mustn't go too far, because you do want them to get off the 775 00:58:23,340 --> 00:58:26,340 switchback railway giggling with pleasure. 776 00:58:38,660 --> 00:58:42,779 And tomorrow, Mae West invites you to come up and see her sometime, living 777 00:58:42,780 --> 00:58:46,020 famously at the same time, 3 .30, here on BBC Two. 778 00:58:46,511 --> 00:58:48,609 Thank you. 779 00:58:48,610 --> 00:58:53,160 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 72406

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