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- [Narrator] Who was I then?
Adeline Virginia Stephen.
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The second daughter of
Leslie and Julia Stephen,
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born on the 25th of January, 1882,
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descended from a great many people,
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some famous, others obscure.
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Born into a large connection,
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born not of rich parents,
but to-do parents.
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Born into a very communicative,
literate, letter writing,
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visiting articulate,
late 19th century world.
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- She was a late Victorian.
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She started writing in
the First World War.
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She was reacting against
her parents' generation.
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She did the most astonishingly bold, new,
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dangerous, risky things
with the form of the novel.
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And I think that's still very influential
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and still actually
exciting and pleasurable
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for people who read it.
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- One of the things that is
unique, I think. in her work
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and what she was trying to do,
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once she came really
to be a modern writer,
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I mean with the novel Jacob's Room
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and then with 'Mrs. Dalloway',
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is that she wanted to provide
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a picture of consciousness.
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- She writes about what's important,
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what's the meaning of
life, what are we here for?
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What does it feel like to be alive?
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How can we find meaning in things?
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And also what happens minute
by minute when we are.
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- What gives Virginia Woolf
that extraordinary power
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is that she has more
verbal sophistication,
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more verbal skill than anyone
else, and she knows it.
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But what she is writing about
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are things that everyone experiences,
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the experience of loneliness,
the fear of death,
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the sense of isolation.
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- She used, in a way,
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the extremity of the experiences,
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sometimes the unbearable experiences
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she had known in her childhood
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as material for her work
to transform high moments
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in the novels into
something more than prose,
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I mean into poetry.
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- She's very much in our minds as readers
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and especially as women readers
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because she was a radical feminist.
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I think another reason
why she's still with us
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and has such an important afterlife
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is her lifelong struggle
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with illness, with mental illness.
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- But she grew up in what
might be called today
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a dysfunctional family,
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especially the girls
were very badly treated
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in lots of ways.
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- And I think that the
terrible, courageous,
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difficult struggle that she
had to keep on an even keel
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and to produce the enormous
amount of work that she did
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is a very haunting story
and a very troubling story.
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And I think it speaks to us today.
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- [Narrator] The day mother
died, 20 something years ago,
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the smell of reeds in the hall
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is always in the first flower still.
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Without remembering the
day, I was thinking of her,
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as I often do, as good a
memorial as one could wish.
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- One of the things that's striking
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about Virginia Woolf's family
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is of course loss.
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I mean that her mother
dies when she's young.
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- When she was 13, died
at 49 of heart failure.
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Her half sister who had
been looking after them all,
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in what was a turbulent and
quite difficult family life
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with a very domineering and
needy father, died soon after.
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- I think that death was a
very important subject for her
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and that she did suffer mental breakdowns,
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particularly after her
sister, Stella's, death,
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her first major breakdown.
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Then after her father's death
in 1904, a major breakdown.
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- [Narrator] Death was defiance.
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Death was an attempt to communicate.
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People feeling the impossibility
of reaching the center,
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which mystically evaded them.
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Closeness drew apart,
rapture faded. One was alone.
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There was an embrace in death.
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- The family environment in which he grew
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was deeply damaging.
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Her half sister was sectioned.
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Her father exploited her half sister
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and then her sister
using them as mother's,
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little mothers to look
after the rest of the family
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when he couldn't manage.
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- It's her father's death
that she thinks, years later,
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actually liberated her.
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- [Narrator] Father's
birthday, he would've been 96,
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yes today and could have been 96.
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Like other people, one as known.
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Mercifully it was not.
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His life would've entirely ended mine.
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What would've happened?
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No writing, no books, inconceivable.
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- Basically all of her
novels and all of her work
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would've been impossible if he had lived.
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- And her brother, Toby,
died in his twenties
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a couple of years after that.
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So there was this series
from the age of 13
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through to the age of 24 of hammer blows,
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which were accompanied by very perilous
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and troublesome times for her.
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A number of very major breakdowns
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during some of which she
tried to kill herself.
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- [Narrator] In the first place,
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it is not true to say
that when the door opened
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and with a curious hesitation
and self effacement
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Turner or Strachey glided in,
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that they were complete strangers to us.
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We had met them and Bell,
Woolf, Hilton Young and others
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in Cambridge at May Week
before my father died.
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- So it was quite a surprise
to her friends and her family
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when she decided to marry Leonard Woolf.
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- Virginia Woolf famously
teased her unmarried friends
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when she got engaged to
Leonard Woolf saying,
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I'm marrying a penniless Jew.
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She actually was courageous
about it because on the face,
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that they were very different people.
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- He was a civil servant
who'd been working
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in Salon as it then was.
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He had a middle class Jewish family
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whom she didn't like at all,
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deeply in love with him in her own way,
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and also horribly anti-Semitic
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in many of the things that she says.
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- But she and Leonard were
very dependent upon one another
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and a remarkable couple
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who spent a great deal of time together
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and obviously did so very successfully.
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- They also rowed like mad.
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- [Narrator] Oh dear, we
quarreled almost all morning
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and it was a lovely morning.
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And now gone to Hades forever,
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branded with marks of our ill humor.
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Which began it? Which
carried it on? God knows.
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This I will say, I
exploded and L smolders.
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However, quite suddenly we made it up,
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but the morning was wasted.
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- They were very political.
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He became a very important central figure
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in the socialist movement in his time.
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He was a literary editor,
he was a journalist
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and he had a regime.
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He knew that she could easily fall ill.
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She fell violently ill
soon after their marriage
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and was more or less
incarcerated for about two years.
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This is during the first World War.
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- [Narrator] 15 Years
ago, she had gone under.
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It was nothing you could
put your finger on.
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There'd been no scene, no snap,
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only the slow sinking,
water-logged, of her will into his.
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- Leonard Woolf, at first,
trusted medical opinion
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and he took her to see
the eminent Sir Henry Head
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in September, 1913.
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And Virginia Woolf went away
from that doctor's appointment
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and took an overdose of
veronal and only survived
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because her stomach
was pumped out in time.
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- And Leonard Woolf
made a crucial decision,
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which was not to have
her sent to an asylum.
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He was going to look after her.
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- He must have suffered in the marriage.
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But his sense of the personal,
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not the literary or
social value of his wife,
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was so strong and so
extreme that he was willing
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to suppress himself for her sake.
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- And I read this as
a form of sympathetic,
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practical guardianship and not as a form
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of tyranny or constriction or repression.
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- But it does seem to
me that Leonard Woolf
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was very protective and almost, yes,
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in a motherly role to his wife.
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But maybe it came too late.
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- [Narrator] I was interrupted
somewhere on this page
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by the arrival of Mr. Elliot.
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Mr. Elliot is well expressed by his name,
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a polished, cultivated,
elaborate, young American.
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talking so slow that each word
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seems to have special finish allotted it.
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- She could be very snobbish,
she could be very snarky.
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You didn't wanna trust her with a secret
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'cause she'd immediately go
off and tell six other people.
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She could be fantastically
rude and condescending.
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- Christopher Isherwood talks
about how Virginia Woolf
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was one of the greatest
conversationalists,
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but also one of the great
gossips in the world.
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And I think all of that goes hand in hand.
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She was an observer. She observed herself.
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She observed other people.
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- [Narrator] I don't like
old ladies who guzzle.
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My comment upon Ethel Smyth last night.
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No doubt, a harsh one,
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but she champed and chopped
and squabbled over her duck
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and then was overeaten and had to go home.
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- She could be savage.
She was a terrible snob.
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She could be extremely
funny about her friends
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and talk about them in ways
that were extremely cutting.
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- She was very snarky
about the middle classes
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and the middle brow.
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She was extremely unfair
to very good novelists,
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like Arnold Bennett, because
she thought he was too taken up
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with the material world.
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- So far, no gossip and no soul.
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Yet I've seen Bob, Desmond,
Lytton, Sebastian Sprott,
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Dorothy Bussy, Mrs. Elliot,
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this last making me almost vomit.
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So scented, so powdered, so egotistic,
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so morbid, so weekly.
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- She's fantastically intolerant
and bigoted in many ways.
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All this is part of the wild energy
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of her creative imagination.
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But it's the sort of dark side,
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and I think it is related
to her mental illness
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and to her anxiety about being vulnerable.
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When her friend,
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with whom she had a very
conflicted relationship,
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Katherine Mansfield first
came to visit, she says,
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- [Narrator] The dinner
last night went off.
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The delicate things were discussed.
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We could both wish that
one's first impression of KM
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was not that she stinks
like a, well, civet cat
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that had taken to street walking.
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- Virginia Woolf was very hard
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and judgmental of her friends.
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But I think she was also very harsh
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and judgmental of herself.
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And so she didn't let
herself off easy as an artist
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or even recognizing
some of her impatience,
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to put it kindly, with other people.
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And so you find in her
diaries and her letters,
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self-criticism as pungent
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as her criticism of other people.
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- [Narrator] Here are my resolutions
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for the next three months,
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the next lap of the year.
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First to have none, not to be tied.
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Second to be free and kindly with myself,
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not goading it to parties,
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to sit rather privately
reading in the studio,
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to make a good job of The Waves.
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- And here she is at the end of The Waves.
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And I think I should
preface this by saying
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that in her diary when
she put her pen down
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after writing these immortal words,
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she felt very close to mental illness.
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- [Narrator] Here in the
few minutes that remain,
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I must record heaven be
praised, the end of The Waves.
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I wrote the words, O
Death, 15 minutes ago.
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It is death. Death is the enemy.
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It is death against whom I
ride with my spear couched
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and my hair flying back
like a young man's,
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like Percival's when he galloped in India.
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I strike spurs into my horse.
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Against you, I will fling myself,
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unvanquished and unyielding, O Death.
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The Waves broke on the shore.
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- Virginia Woolf thought
of The Waves, in part,
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as a memorial to her brother, Toby.
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And she talked about weeping
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when she was thinking about
Toby while writing the book.
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- [Narrator] Anyhow, it is done.
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And I have been sitting these
15 minutes in a state of glory
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and calm and some tears thinking of Toby.
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- And it is at the end of the novel,
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the image of a wave starting again
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and the wave become the,
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it's a bit like the continuity
of life or eternity in time,
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that the waves come again
and again and again.
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- [Narrator] Yes, this
is the eternal renewal.
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The incessant rise and fall
and fall and rise again.
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And in Me too, the wave rises.
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It swells, it arches its back.
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I'm aware once more of a new desire,
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something rising beneath me
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like the proud horse
whose rider first spurs
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and then pulls back.
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- But then there's always
another wave rising far out.
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And that is crucial to
Virginia Woolf's psyche
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and her achievement, that
she was always conscious
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of that other wave rising,
recuperating itself.
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- After Leslie Stephen
died in 1904, the family
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which was the two
brothers, Toby and Adrian,
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and Virginia's sister,
Vanessa, who became a painter,
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moved to the area of London
that's called Bloomsbury.
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- [Narrator] In fact, the
dominion that Bloomsbury exercises
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over the sane and insane alike
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seems to be sufficient to turn the brains
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of the most robust.
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Happily, I'm Bloomsbury
myself and thus immune,
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but I'm not altogether
ignorant of what they mean.
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And it's a hypnotism very
difficult to shake off
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because there's some foundation for it.
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- But it was a life of young
people finding their own way,
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making lots of ridiculous mistakes,
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falling into all kinds of
complicated relationships.
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And above all, talking
honestly and candidly
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about sex, about homosexuality,
about their feelings,
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about art, about politics,
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because they felt, all of
them in their different ways,
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that they'd grown up in an environment
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where you couldn't speak the truth.
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- [Narrator] I thus detect
another element in the shame
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which I had at being
caught looking at myself
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in the glass in the hall.
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I must have been ashamed
or afraid of my own body.
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Another memory, also of the
hall, may help to explain this.
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There was a slab outside
the dining room door
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for standing dishes upon.
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Once when I was very small,
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Gerald Duckworth lifted me onto this.
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And as I sat there, he
began to explore my body.
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- It's a wrong conclusion, I think,
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to draw from that experience
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that she simply from that time on,
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suffered with insoluble mental problems.
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Now I don't,
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it obviously contributed to who she was
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and to her fragility.
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But that puts us
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at a loss when we look at
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how much she transcended
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that suffering, real suffering,
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and how much she was able to do
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with her art and her work
and how productive she was.
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- In her own experience of sexual abuse.
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Whatever it exactly was,
she's record recorded it.
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She said that her brother, George,
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would rush into her bedroom at night.
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- Sleep had almost come to me.
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The room was dark, the house silent.
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Then creaking stealthily, the door opened.
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Treading gingerly, someone entered.
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'Who?'. I cried.
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'Don't be frightened.', George whispered.
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'And don't turn on the
light. Oh, beloved, beloved.'
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And he flung himself on my
bed and took me in his arms.
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- In the episode of her being abused
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by her half-brothers,
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there is no sense that there was anybody
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to talk to about it or
or to know about it.
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And there was nobody to stop them,
348
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must have increased this
sense of not being protected
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and not being able to protect herself.
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And when the sense of
exposure became too great
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or when the whatever it was rushed in her,
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she couldn't cope.
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- So there was abuse and
she had reason to fear men,
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reason to fear male sexuality.
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And I think that why she was so bonded
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with her Bloomsbury group
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is that this was a civilized
group in her terms.
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The men were civilized
in that they believed
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in the same values as she believed
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that one must care for other people,
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that one must be responsible.
362
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- Virginia Woolf is often accused
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of being an egotist or a narcissist.
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And she was indeed deeply interested
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in her own experiences and emotions.
366
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And she, in her diaries
and in her letters,
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she analyzes herself all
the time, moment by moment.
368
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And she is extremely up and down.
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She's a very volatile character.
370
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- [Narrator] The day after
my birthday, in fact, I'm 38.
371
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While I've no doubt that
I'm a great deal happier
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than I was at 28
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and happier today than I was yesterday.
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Having this afternoon arrived
at some idea of a new form
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for a new novel.
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- So if you're gonna write fiction about,
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which she thought should be about people,
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because fiction is basically
about human beings.
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How do you do it?
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The old conventions,
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which she saw in the 19th century novel
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and the early 20th century,
383
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what used to be called
the Edwardian novel,
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she didn't think worked for her.
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- She largely avoids these
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kind of large social novels where
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you're seeing upstairs and
downstairs at the same time.
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- [Narrator] She had known
happiness, intense happiness.
389
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And it silvered the rough
waves a little more brightly
390
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as daylight faded and the
blue went out of the sea
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and it rolled in waves of pure lemon,
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which curved and swelled
and broke upon the beach.
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And the ecstasy burst in her eyes
394
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and waves of pure delight raced
over the floor of her mind
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and she felt it is enough. It is enough.
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- Such moments are inhabited
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by a much larger rhythm
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than a lot of other passages.
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And I think our moments
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where some kind of
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well, ecstasy is reached,
402
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I mean in fact almost
403
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well, orgasmic ecstasy,
404
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she cries at a point. It
is enough. It is enough.
405
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And I think that's very much a female cry.
406
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- So she wants to turn the focus away
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from the traditional subjects of fiction
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into the shadows of moments of being
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and the inner life.
410
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And to do this, she has
to develop a new style.
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So there's a rational for the
lengthening of her sentences
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and the fragmented narrative,
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because she begins to inject
silences into her narrative.
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She accepts the fact that there is much
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one cannot define or even record
416
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and one's got to allow
for what can't be said.
417
00:21:57,817 --> 00:22:01,102
- She's trying to get a narrative
418
00:22:01,102 --> 00:22:06,315
that moves like water
inside other people's minds
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and lives and then goes back out again.
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Very interested in nature
and the natural world.
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And then goes back in again.
422
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- [Narrator] I faint. I fail.
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Now my body thaws.
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I am unsealed, I am incandescent.
425
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Now the stream pours in
a deep tide, fertilizing,
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opening the shut, forcing the
tight folded flooding free.
427
00:22:30,788 --> 00:22:33,853
To whom shall I give all
that now flows through me
428
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from my warm, my porous body?
429
00:22:37,357 --> 00:22:41,204
- Part of this has to do with her sense
430
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of what is unique about
every individual human being
431
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and what every human being has in common.
432
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She's aware of the way in
which say everyone has a body
433
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that is different, but everyone
has a body in the same way.
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- She thought of life
as something dangerous
435
00:23:01,256 --> 00:23:04,540
and she was extremely sensitized
436
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to what was going on around
her, always from the first.
437
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She kept in her mind all her life,
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very, very vivid memories of childhood.
439
00:23:14,613 --> 00:23:16,834
For instance, of going
to the house in Cornwall
440
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where they went for
three months every summer
441
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down in St. Ives.
442
00:23:20,369 --> 00:23:23,622
- So when she was growing
up, I mean at St. Ives,
443
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there's a great sense
of place that's later
444
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put into 'To the Lighthouse'.
445
00:23:28,971 --> 00:23:32,349
- [Narrator] Well, Leonard
has read 'To the Lighthouse'
446
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and says, it is much my best
book and it is a masterpiece.
447
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He said this without my asking.
448
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,921
- There's a family called the Ramses
449
00:23:41,921 --> 00:23:46,082
who are very closely based
on Virginia Woolf's parents
450
00:23:46,082 --> 00:23:47,802
and her siblings.
451
00:23:47,802 --> 00:23:50,339
- At the beginning of 'To the Lighthouse'
452
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when James is with his mother,
453
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and there is some hope of
going 'To the Lighthouse',
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she donates to James the
kind of high sensitivity
455
00:24:04,194 --> 00:24:08,073
that was hers and that she wrote
456
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about her own childhood
and the interruption
457
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that comes from the father saying,
458
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it won't be fine tomorrow,
459
00:24:17,363 --> 00:24:19,959
which means they won't be able to go.
460
00:24:19,959 --> 00:24:23,963
Brings out of James an extreme violence,
461
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a sort of murderous violence
in relation to the father.
462
00:24:28,061 --> 00:24:29,876
- [Narrator] Had there been an ax handy,
463
00:24:29,876 --> 00:24:31,471
a poker, or any weapon
464
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that would've gashed a
hole in his father's breast
465
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and killed him there and then,
466
00:24:35,694 --> 00:24:37,821
James would have seized it.
467
00:24:37,821 --> 00:24:39,854
Such were the extremes of emotion
468
00:24:39,854 --> 00:24:42,419
that Mr. Ramsey excited
in his children's breasts
469
00:24:42,419 --> 00:24:44,234
by his mere presence.
470
00:24:44,234 --> 00:24:46,267
- You see them in the house,
471
00:24:46,267 --> 00:24:49,364
all focused around Mrs. Ramsey.
472
00:24:49,364 --> 00:24:51,960
And you see her in a kind of combative
473
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,745
and complicated relationship
with her very needy, demanding,
474
00:24:55,745 --> 00:24:59,217
obstreperous literary husbands.
475
00:24:59,217 --> 00:25:01,282
- I suppose that I did for myself
476
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what psychoanalyst do for their patients.
477
00:25:04,222 --> 00:25:06,975
I used to think of
father and mother daily,
478
00:25:06,975 --> 00:25:11,417
but writing the Lighthouse
laid them in my mind.
479
00:25:11,417 --> 00:25:16,631
- Virginia Woolf certainly turns
well unbearable experiences
480
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like the abuse she has suffered
481
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into poetry very strikingly
482
00:25:22,897 --> 00:25:28,090
in the Time Passes section
of 'To the Lighthouse'
483
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because the decay of the house
484
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resonates on so many levels.
485
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I think it also means a psyche or self
486
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under the assault of a form of destruction
487
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that is very subtle.
488
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- And the woman, the young
woman who's observed all this
489
00:25:47,985 --> 00:25:49,956
in the first half and who's
sort of fallen in love
490
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with Mrs. Ramsey, is
a painter called Lily.
491
00:25:52,771 --> 00:25:56,087
And she's painting a
painting of Mrs. Ramsey
492
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in the first part of the novel.
493
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And in the last part of the novel,
494
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she gets this painting out
again and she thinks about it,
495
00:26:01,746 --> 00:26:04,157
and she tries to start it again.
496
00:26:04,157 --> 00:26:06,535
But Mrs. Ramsey of course, isn't there.
497
00:26:06,535 --> 00:26:09,100
- [Narrator] Mrs. Ramsey,
Mrs. Ramsey, she cried
498
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feeling the old horror come back.
499
00:26:11,571 --> 00:26:15,606
To want and want and not have Mrs. Ramsey.
500
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It was part of her
perfect goodness to Lilly.
501
00:26:18,328 --> 00:26:20,862
Sat there quite simply in the chair,
502
00:26:20,862 --> 00:26:22,613
flicked her needles to and fro
503
00:26:22,613 --> 00:26:24,834
knitted her reddish brown stocking,
504
00:26:24,834 --> 00:26:27,118
cast her shadow on the step.
505
00:26:27,118 --> 00:26:28,588
There she sat.
506
00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:32,905
- But this appearance is
like what the novel has done
507
00:26:32,905 --> 00:26:35,720
is bring her back from the dead.
508
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,881
So it makes the novel
into a kind of ghost story
509
00:26:39,881 --> 00:26:41,914
in a very surprising way.
510
00:26:41,914 --> 00:26:44,667
- The kind of triumph
that Lilly Briscoe had
511
00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:46,231
at the end of 'To the Lighthouse'
512
00:26:46,231 --> 00:26:47,857
seems to be the same triumph
513
00:26:47,857 --> 00:26:50,829
that Virginia Woolf felt
when she finished The Waves.
514
00:26:50,829 --> 00:26:53,206
She wrote in her diary that in effect,
515
00:26:53,206 --> 00:26:54,552
she let herself go.
516
00:26:54,552 --> 00:26:59,087
She simply felt herself riding
on the wave of the prose
517
00:26:59,087 --> 00:27:01,965
and felt, I'm paraphrasing
hopelessly here,
518
00:27:01,965 --> 00:27:04,687
a tremendous exhilaration of a kind
519
00:27:04,687 --> 00:27:06,501
she had never imagined before.
520
00:27:06,501 --> 00:27:09,316
- If you look at 'To the Lighthouse',
521
00:27:09,316 --> 00:27:12,194
it's obviously about a
certain kind of family
522
00:27:12,194 --> 00:27:13,226
of a certain class.
523
00:27:13,226 --> 00:27:15,135
And then there are other characters,
524
00:27:15,135 --> 00:27:17,762
the artist Lily Briscoe and other people
525
00:27:17,762 --> 00:27:19,764
that gives you a sense
Virginia Woolf understands
526
00:27:19,764 --> 00:27:23,800
more than just about her own world.
527
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,301
- [Narrator] Mrs. Dalloway said she would
528
00:27:25,301 --> 00:27:27,772
buy the flowers herself.
529
00:27:27,772 --> 00:27:32,120
- The beginning of 'Mrs.
Dalloway', where Clarissa Dalloway,
530
00:27:32,120 --> 00:27:34,592
who is a society hostess,
531
00:27:34,592 --> 00:27:37,563
goes out to buy the flowers
532
00:27:37,563 --> 00:27:40,003
for the party that she's
having that evening.
533
00:27:40,003 --> 00:27:42,102
It couldn't be more trivial,
534
00:27:43,444 --> 00:27:46,447
it couldn't be more superficial.
535
00:27:46,447 --> 00:27:49,544
And off she goes, this middle-aged woman
536
00:27:49,544 --> 00:27:51,233
who's recently been very ill.
537
00:27:51,233 --> 00:27:52,735
And she goes into the streets of London,
538
00:27:52,735 --> 00:27:56,645
you see them sort of shimmering
with activity and busyness
539
00:27:56,645 --> 00:28:00,242
and everybody absolutely relieved
540
00:28:00,242 --> 00:28:02,713
that the war is over and
they can go to parties
541
00:28:02,713 --> 00:28:03,840
and go shopping.
542
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,656
But under it, you are
going to see the corpses.
543
00:28:07,656 --> 00:28:11,441
You're going to feel and hear and see
544
00:28:11,441 --> 00:28:14,444
the millions of corpses and deaths
545
00:28:14,444 --> 00:28:17,478
that underlie this shimmering surface.
546
00:28:17,478 --> 00:28:20,043
- So in 'Mrs. Dalloway' in particular,
547
00:28:20,043 --> 00:28:23,265
you have all of the thoughts
of Clarissa Dalloway
548
00:28:23,265 --> 00:28:25,518
that will tell you as the reader
549
00:28:25,518 --> 00:28:27,363
what Clarissa Dalloway is like
550
00:28:27,363 --> 00:28:31,117
with an occasional turn outward.
551
00:28:31,117 --> 00:28:35,152
Where there is a third person
watching Clarissa Dalloway
552
00:28:35,152 --> 00:28:36,622
to tell us what she looks like.
553
00:28:36,622 --> 00:28:40,063
So that the novel can be a seamless view
554
00:28:40,063 --> 00:28:42,628
inside Clarissa Dalloway's mind,
555
00:28:42,628 --> 00:28:46,320
but situated firmly on
the streets of London
556
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,040
in a realistic way.
557
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,230
- Doctors in the early 20th century
558
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:55,120
when faced with manic
depression or bipolar disorder
559
00:28:56,423 --> 00:28:59,677
didn't really know what to do.
560
00:28:59,677 --> 00:29:02,398
So they invented regimes
561
00:29:02,398 --> 00:29:07,122
and that's spelt out very
dramatically in 'Mrs. Dalloway'.
562
00:29:07,122 --> 00:29:09,134
- Where Septimus Warren Smith
563
00:29:11,188 --> 00:29:15,599
feels so completely porous
564
00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:17,007
as it were, exposed.
565
00:29:17,007 --> 00:29:21,386
I mean his own fiber is continuous
566
00:29:21,386 --> 00:29:26,599
with the wind in the
leaves or the birds flying.
567
00:29:26,641 --> 00:29:28,706
- [Narrator] There
remained only the window,
568
00:29:28,706 --> 00:29:31,677
the large Bloomsbury lodging house window.
569
00:29:31,677 --> 00:29:33,711
The tiresome, the troublesome
570
00:29:33,711 --> 00:29:38,090
and rather melodramatic
business of opening the window
571
00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:39,967
and throwing himself out.
572
00:29:39,967 --> 00:29:42,688
- Virginia Woolf did make
use of her mental breakdowns
573
00:29:42,688 --> 00:29:44,565
when she wrote 'Mrs. Dalloway'.
574
00:29:44,565 --> 00:29:46,505
She gave to Septimus. Warren Smith,
575
00:29:46,505 --> 00:29:49,039
the same mad experiences that she had had.
576
00:29:49,039 --> 00:29:51,979
hearing the birds singing
and in Greek, for example,
577
00:29:51,979 --> 00:29:53,230
in the trees.
578
00:29:53,230 --> 00:29:55,482
And what she was doing was identifying
579
00:29:55,482 --> 00:29:57,610
with someone utterly
different from herself
580
00:29:57,610 --> 00:30:01,676
and recognizing the breakdown as a misery.
581
00:30:01,676 --> 00:30:05,492
- [Narrator] But he would wait
till the very last moment.
582
00:30:05,492 --> 00:30:07,557
He did not want to die.
583
00:30:07,557 --> 00:30:10,623
- She treats Septimus
Warren Smith's suicide
584
00:30:10,623 --> 00:30:11,843
as a kind of triumph.
585
00:30:11,843 --> 00:30:14,283
He refuses to give into the doctors
586
00:30:14,283 --> 00:30:17,160
who want to shut him
away from those he loved
587
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,039
and those who the doctor
who wants to treat him
588
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:24,011
as a set of symptoms
rather than as a person.
589
00:30:24,011 --> 00:30:27,264
- [Narrator] There he lay
with a thud, thud, thud
590
00:30:27,264 --> 00:30:31,522
in his brain and then a
suffocation of blackness.
591
00:30:32,926 --> 00:30:34,678
- She always writes in this voice
592
00:30:34,678 --> 00:30:36,409
which tries to get in and out
593
00:30:37,587 --> 00:30:40,371
of people's minds and feelings.
594
00:30:40,371 --> 00:30:44,281
And if you say, I, if you
write a first person novel,
595
00:30:44,281 --> 00:30:46,659
you cut yourself off from doing that.
596
00:30:46,659 --> 00:30:48,567
So she never does that.
597
00:30:48,567 --> 00:30:50,475
There is no I in the fiction,
598
00:30:50,475 --> 00:30:53,885
there is plenty of I in the essays
599
00:30:53,885 --> 00:30:56,950
and in in the letters and the diaries,
600
00:30:56,950 --> 00:30:58,139
but not in the fiction.
601
00:30:58,139 --> 00:31:00,860
- [Narrator] We began our
printing off this afternoon
602
00:31:00,860 --> 00:31:04,802
and we printed 300 copies of
the first page of Prelude.
603
00:31:04,802 --> 00:31:06,585
But we should be glad of another press.
604
00:31:06,585 --> 00:31:09,025
- The Hogarth Press was started actually
605
00:31:09,025 --> 00:31:12,466
as a sort of a therapeutic hobby
606
00:31:12,466 --> 00:31:15,062
that Leonard Woolf thought
would be really good
607
00:31:15,062 --> 00:31:19,598
at a time when Virginia
Woolf had been ill.
608
00:31:19,598 --> 00:31:22,100
So they bought this small hand press
609
00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:25,447
and some type in 1915
610
00:31:25,447 --> 00:31:28,388
and then nothing really
happened for a couple of years
611
00:31:28,388 --> 00:31:30,327
because she was so ill.
612
00:31:30,327 --> 00:31:32,986
And then they started printing by hand,
613
00:31:32,986 --> 00:31:36,803
small, short essays and stories.
614
00:31:36,803 --> 00:31:39,461
So what's remarkable about the
Hogarth Press is two things.
615
00:31:39,461 --> 00:31:41,338
One, it started as this very small,
616
00:31:41,338 --> 00:31:43,340
rather amateurish operation
617
00:31:43,340 --> 00:31:45,374
on the kitchen table in Richmond.
618
00:31:45,374 --> 00:31:49,878
And it grew into one of the
most important, influential
619
00:31:49,878 --> 00:31:53,538
radical publishing houses in England.
620
00:31:53,538 --> 00:31:54,977
The other thing it did, of course,
621
00:31:54,977 --> 00:31:58,293
was to free her from the constraints
622
00:31:58,293 --> 00:32:02,829
of having to write under the thumb
623
00:32:02,829 --> 00:32:05,081
of another publisher.
624
00:32:05,081 --> 00:32:06,426
Who in the first instance,
625
00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:09,147
the publisher of her first two novels
626
00:32:09,147 --> 00:32:12,119
was her half brother, Duckworth,
627
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,529
whom she had had unpleasant
relationship with
628
00:32:15,529 --> 00:32:17,656
in her childhood.
629
00:32:17,656 --> 00:32:19,408
- [Narrator] I have
worked very methodically
630
00:32:19,408 --> 00:32:21,941
and done my due of articles
631
00:32:21,941 --> 00:32:26,759
so that with luck I shall have
made 320 pounds by journalism
632
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:30,262
and I suppose at least 300
pounds by my novel this year.
633
00:32:30,262 --> 00:32:33,390
- She was very proud that
her books earned money
634
00:32:33,390 --> 00:32:37,488
and she writes with great
energy about the importance
635
00:32:37,488 --> 00:32:40,366
of her independent
income for women writers,
636
00:32:40,366 --> 00:32:43,338
it's one of the key stories of her life
637
00:32:43,338 --> 00:32:45,621
that women needed to earn money
638
00:32:45,621 --> 00:32:48,875
in order to be free of constrictions.
639
00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:50,908
- [Narrator] The history
of men's opposition
640
00:32:50,908 --> 00:32:54,411
to women's emancipation is
more interesting perhaps
641
00:32:54,411 --> 00:32:57,289
than the story of that
emancipation itself.
642
00:32:57,289 --> 00:32:58,697
- So her childhood,
643
00:32:58,697 --> 00:33:00,553
the conditions of her childhood
644
00:33:01,763 --> 00:33:03,952
affected her feeling,
645
00:33:03,952 --> 00:33:06,893
as she came into the
public and social world,
646
00:33:06,893 --> 00:33:10,334
about the radical injustices to women
647
00:33:10,334 --> 00:33:12,867
who couldn't vote, couldn't own property,
648
00:33:12,867 --> 00:33:15,245
who were the possessions of their husbands
649
00:33:15,245 --> 00:33:19,092
and whose writing was done, historically,
650
00:33:19,092 --> 00:33:21,313
under tremendous difficulties.
651
00:33:21,313 --> 00:33:23,910
- [Narrator] We went to a
meeting called a suffrage rally
652
00:33:23,910 --> 00:33:25,849
in Kingsway this afternoon.
653
00:33:25,849 --> 00:33:27,882
The hall was fairly well filled,
654
00:33:27,882 --> 00:33:31,886
the audience almost wholly
women as the speakers were too.
655
00:33:31,886 --> 00:33:34,577
- So she wrote two main books about this,
656
00:33:34,577 --> 00:33:36,579
one in the twenties and
one in the thirties.
657
00:33:36,579 --> 00:33:38,956
The first one was 'A Room of One's Own',
658
00:33:38,956 --> 00:33:41,427
which is an extremely famous, long-lasting
659
00:33:41,427 --> 00:33:46,026
and influential essay about women writers
660
00:33:46,026 --> 00:33:48,184
and it's also about education for women.
661
00:33:48,184 --> 00:33:50,342
It started it's life as two lectures
662
00:33:50,342 --> 00:33:54,127
for women undergraduates at Cambridge.
663
00:33:54,127 --> 00:33:56,692
- [Narrator] Thank God, my long
toil at the women's lecture
664
00:33:56,692 --> 00:33:58,507
is this moment ended.
665
00:33:58,507 --> 00:34:01,948
I'm back from speaking at
Girton in floods of rain.
666
00:34:01,948 --> 00:34:05,326
Starved but valiant young
women. That's my impression.
667
00:34:05,326 --> 00:34:07,078
Intelligent, eager, poor,
668
00:34:07,078 --> 00:34:09,928
and destined to become
school mistresses and shoals.
669
00:34:10,832 --> 00:34:13,146
I blandly told them to drink wine
670
00:34:13,146 --> 00:34:15,482
and have a room of their own.
671
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:19,100
- And in this she very
whittily and charmingly
672
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:24,001
and funnily describes the
history of women writers
673
00:34:24,001 --> 00:34:27,505
and talks about ways in
which women might be free.
674
00:34:27,505 --> 00:34:31,071
- She lays bare the structure of society
675
00:34:31,071 --> 00:34:35,043
as it is constructed along gender lines
676
00:34:35,043 --> 00:34:36,764
as in 'A Room of One's Own'
677
00:34:36,764 --> 00:34:41,456
or along economic lines and
gender lines, the patriarchy,
678
00:34:41,456 --> 00:34:43,802
in her later book 'Three Guineas'.
679
00:34:43,802 --> 00:34:46,461
- [Narrator] L Gravely
approves three guineas,
680
00:34:46,461 --> 00:34:49,308
thinks it's an extremely clear analysis.
681
00:34:49,308 --> 00:34:54,187
- In the context of the gathering
fascist movement in Europe
682
00:34:54,187 --> 00:34:56,064
and indeed in this country.
683
00:34:56,064 --> 00:35:00,287
She writes a much angrier,
much less palatable essay
684
00:35:00,287 --> 00:35:03,541
called 'Three Guineas' in the late 30's
685
00:35:03,541 --> 00:35:07,044
where she makes an equation
686
00:35:07,044 --> 00:35:12,018
between the patriarchal tyranny
of the Victorian household
687
00:35:12,018 --> 00:35:14,989
and what is happening in
the fascists movement.
688
00:35:14,989 --> 00:35:19,901
So she draws a very bold
and very angry comparison
689
00:35:19,901 --> 00:35:22,653
between the kind of fathers
690
00:35:22,653 --> 00:35:24,874
that existed in Victorian families
691
00:35:24,874 --> 00:35:27,314
who prevented their daughters
from having an education
692
00:35:27,314 --> 00:35:28,534
or going out to work.
693
00:35:28,534 --> 00:35:31,068
And the way in which
someone like Mussolini
694
00:35:31,068 --> 00:35:35,792
was encouraging a macho
695
00:35:35,792 --> 00:35:39,629
war-like aggressive, repressive
696
00:35:43,049 --> 00:35:45,461
way of thinking about the world.
697
00:35:45,461 --> 00:35:48,415
(speaking German)
698
00:35:50,994 --> 00:35:54,936
- She expresses her
horror at the violence,
699
00:35:54,936 --> 00:35:56,906
both domestic and military,
700
00:35:56,906 --> 00:36:01,567
that men have perpetrated
over all the centuries,
701
00:36:01,567 --> 00:36:03,976
that women had to go far beyond the vote
702
00:36:03,976 --> 00:36:08,699
if they were ever going
to achieve or do down
703
00:36:08,699 --> 00:36:12,891
that brutal society that
destroys so many lives.
704
00:36:12,891 --> 00:36:15,644
- You have only to look
around the world now
705
00:36:15,644 --> 00:36:20,023
to see that 'Three Guineas'
is a book of great importance
706
00:36:20,023 --> 00:36:22,025
and necessity to us still.
707
00:36:22,025 --> 00:36:23,183
- [Narrator] I am pleased this morning
708
00:36:23,183 --> 00:36:26,280
because Lady Rhonda writes
that she is profoundly excited
709
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,594
and moved by the 'Three Guineas',
710
00:36:28,594 --> 00:36:31,316
A good omen because this
shows that certain people
711
00:36:31,316 --> 00:36:34,569
will be stirred, will think, will discuss.
712
00:36:34,569 --> 00:36:37,259
It won't altogether be fritted away,
713
00:36:37,259 --> 00:36:40,012
but as the whole of
Europe may be in flames,
714
00:36:40,012 --> 00:36:41,576
it's on the cards.
715
00:36:41,576 --> 00:36:43,578
One more shot at a policeman
716
00:36:43,578 --> 00:36:47,770
and the Germans, Czechs, French
will begin the old horror.
717
00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:51,242
- And I think one of the
politically impressive things
718
00:36:51,242 --> 00:36:54,276
about Woolf is the way that she's open
719
00:36:54,276 --> 00:36:56,841
to all kinds of different friendships.
720
00:36:56,841 --> 00:36:59,125
The marriage is there throughout her life
721
00:36:59,125 --> 00:37:03,567
as a very strong base, but
she's going to have adventures,
722
00:37:03,567 --> 00:37:06,163
emotional and intellectual adventures.
723
00:37:06,163 --> 00:37:10,073
One of the most intense
and dramatic of these
724
00:37:10,073 --> 00:37:12,013
was with Vita Sackville-West.
725
00:37:12,013 --> 00:37:15,704
- Well, Vita Sackville-West
came into Virginia Woolf's life
726
00:37:15,704 --> 00:37:17,831
at the end of 1922
727
00:37:17,831 --> 00:37:20,459
and she had admired
Virginia Woolf's writing
728
00:37:20,459 --> 00:37:22,742
and she asked Clive Bell,
729
00:37:22,742 --> 00:37:24,463
who was Virginia Woolf's brother-in-law,
730
00:37:24,463 --> 00:37:27,278
the husband of her sister, Vanessa Bell,
731
00:37:27,278 --> 00:37:30,375
to introduce her to Virginia.
732
00:37:30,375 --> 00:37:33,659
- [Narrator] I am too muzzy
headed to make out anything.
733
00:37:33,659 --> 00:37:35,536
This is partly the result of dining
734
00:37:35,536 --> 00:37:39,353
to meet the lovely, gifted
aristocrat Sackville-West
735
00:37:39,353 --> 00:37:40,948
last night at Clive's.
736
00:37:40,948 --> 00:37:44,420
Knows everyone, but could I ever know her?
737
00:37:44,420 --> 00:37:46,203
I am to dine her on Tuesday.
738
00:37:46,203 --> 00:37:48,831
The aristocratic manner is
something like an actresses,
739
00:37:48,831 --> 00:37:51,490
no false shyness or modesty.
740
00:37:51,490 --> 00:37:55,243
Makes me feel virgin,
shy, and school girlish.
741
00:37:55,243 --> 00:37:57,183
- Who unlike Virginia Woolf,
742
00:37:57,183 --> 00:38:00,311
was a known saphist as
this was then called.
743
00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:04,597
And she had all kinds of
spectacular affairs with women.
744
00:38:04,597 --> 00:38:06,599
She too was married and had a long
745
00:38:06,599 --> 00:38:08,006
and friendly companionship
746
00:38:08,006 --> 00:38:09,852
with her husband Harold Nicholson.
747
00:38:09,852 --> 00:38:11,823
- [Narrator] Vita comes to lunch tomorrow,
748
00:38:11,823 --> 00:38:14,826
which will be a great
amusement and pleasure.
749
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:17,140
I'm amused at my relations with her,
750
00:38:17,140 --> 00:38:20,675
left so ardent in January, and now what?
751
00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:23,678
Also I like her presence and her beauty.
752
00:38:23,678 --> 00:38:27,745
Am I in love with her? But what is love?
753
00:38:27,745 --> 00:38:32,937
- And was only after two or
three years of the first meeting
754
00:38:32,937 --> 00:38:35,599
that they became in any sense intimate.
755
00:38:36,566 --> 00:38:39,416
And of course as the world now knows,
756
00:38:40,789 --> 00:38:42,822
they became lovers.
757
00:38:42,822 --> 00:38:44,824
- And they did clearly have an affair.
758
00:38:44,824 --> 00:38:47,515
- Almost immediately there was this
759
00:38:47,515 --> 00:38:49,958
great sense of attraction.
760
00:38:51,143 --> 00:38:55,460
Virginia notes in her diary about Vita,
761
00:38:55,460 --> 00:38:58,432
somewhat dismissively at the same time
762
00:38:58,432 --> 00:39:00,997
as you can sense this great attraction.
763
00:39:00,997 --> 00:39:03,249
- And quite critical of Vita as well.
764
00:39:03,249 --> 00:39:06,627
She calls her donkey west.
She thinks she's stupid.
765
00:39:06,627 --> 00:39:08,160
She thinks she's a bit thick.
766
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,131
She's a sort of thick aristocrat
767
00:39:10,131 --> 00:39:11,758
as far as Virginia Woolf's concerned.
768
00:39:11,758 --> 00:39:14,197
She's very rude to her,
very critical of her.
769
00:39:14,197 --> 00:39:17,107
And all that comes out
in her book 'Orlando'.
770
00:39:17,107 --> 00:39:19,515
- [Narrator] And instantly
the usual exciting devices
771
00:39:19,515 --> 00:39:23,332
enter my mind, a biography
beginning the year 1500
772
00:39:23,332 --> 00:39:27,425
and continuing to the
present day called 'Orlando'.
773
00:39:27,425 --> 00:39:31,465
- Which of course was a biography,
774
00:39:31,465 --> 00:39:35,406
she called it, of Vita.
775
00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:40,036
But in a most fantastic method
776
00:39:40,036 --> 00:39:42,882
that 'Orlando' starts off as a boy
777
00:39:42,882 --> 00:39:47,012
and halfway through the
book changes into a woman,
778
00:39:47,012 --> 00:39:49,702
but has still the same character.
779
00:39:49,702 --> 00:39:53,768
And it was the character
of course, of Vita herself.
780
00:39:53,768 --> 00:39:56,771
And the book really forms the longest
781
00:39:56,771 --> 00:39:58,586
and most charming love letter
782
00:39:58,586 --> 00:40:00,591
in the whole of English literature.
783
00:40:01,557 --> 00:40:04,623
- [Narrator] Here is a whole
nervous breakdown in miniature.
784
00:40:04,623 --> 00:40:08,439
Wednesday, only wish to
be alone in the open air.
785
00:40:08,439 --> 00:40:11,943
Thursday, no pleasure in life whatsoever.
786
00:40:11,943 --> 00:40:15,040
Friday, sense of physical tiredness,
787
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,135
but slight activity of the brain.
788
00:40:17,135 --> 00:40:21,890
- Virginia Woolf suffered
from mental illness,
789
00:40:21,890 --> 00:40:26,551
which at one point was
called neurasthenia,
790
00:40:26,551 --> 00:40:29,523
came to be called manic depression,
791
00:40:29,523 --> 00:40:34,736
would now be called
bipolar, a bipolar state.
792
00:40:34,747 --> 00:40:38,010
So she would have periods of
793
00:40:40,096 --> 00:40:43,818
extreme intense activity and elation
794
00:40:43,818 --> 00:40:46,071
and she would have
periods in which she sank
795
00:40:46,071 --> 00:40:49,887
into deep depression and anxiety.
796
00:40:49,887 --> 00:40:53,484
At their worst, these
involved suicide attempts.
797
00:40:53,484 --> 00:40:56,925
She suffered from
fantastically bad headache,
798
00:40:56,925 --> 00:40:58,646
terrible headaches.
799
00:40:58,646 --> 00:40:59,928
- [Narrator] I've been in bed a week
800
00:40:59,928 --> 00:41:02,556
with a sudden and very sharp headache.
801
00:41:02,556 --> 00:41:06,497
And this is written
experimentally to test my brain.
802
00:41:06,497 --> 00:41:11,096
- And one of the ironies of
the treatment of mental illness
803
00:41:11,096 --> 00:41:16,309
in the late teens, early
twenties was to rest completely.
804
00:41:16,695 --> 00:41:20,980
And so sometimes when Virginia
Woolf was most fragile,
805
00:41:20,980 --> 00:41:23,327
she was kept on a milk diet
806
00:41:23,327 --> 00:41:26,392
and doing absolutely no work at all.
807
00:41:26,392 --> 00:41:30,427
And that was actually more
dangerous in a certain way
808
00:41:30,427 --> 00:41:32,242
than actually overworked.
809
00:41:32,242 --> 00:41:35,777
- It's extremely hard to
tell from the evidence
810
00:41:35,777 --> 00:41:38,634
that you can put together
811
00:41:39,749 --> 00:41:41,908
of her conditions,
812
00:41:41,908 --> 00:41:45,474
whether actually some of the phases
813
00:41:45,474 --> 00:41:47,757
of the hallucination
814
00:41:47,757 --> 00:41:50,979
or some of the physical symptoms
815
00:41:50,979 --> 00:41:53,920
that accompanied her depressions
816
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,111
might have been the results
of the drugs she was given.
817
00:41:58,111 --> 00:42:03,148
- She herself had had
such dire experiences
818
00:42:03,148 --> 00:42:07,120
at the hands of the
doctors trying to treat her
819
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,247
after her breakdown,
820
00:42:09,247 --> 00:42:12,845
after her mother's death,
after her father's death
821
00:42:12,845 --> 00:42:14,659
and at other points
822
00:42:14,659 --> 00:42:19,508
that she consciously
823
00:42:19,508 --> 00:42:23,105
or unconsciously associated Freud
824
00:42:23,105 --> 00:42:28,319
and the claim for science that
psychoanalysis gave itself
825
00:42:28,673 --> 00:42:32,364
with those doctors who,
826
00:42:32,364 --> 00:42:35,993
from their superior
position as men of science,
827
00:42:35,993 --> 00:42:39,152
had said what was wrong with her
828
00:42:39,152 --> 00:42:42,468
and what could be good for her.
829
00:42:42,468 --> 00:42:45,596
Neither of which corresponded
830
00:42:45,596 --> 00:42:48,287
with anything of her own sense of herself
831
00:42:48,287 --> 00:42:50,414
and her own sense of her experience.
832
00:42:50,414 --> 00:42:51,853
- She was never psychoanalyzed.
833
00:42:51,853 --> 00:42:53,292
She didn't want to be psychoanalyzed.
834
00:42:53,292 --> 00:42:56,732
And although Leonard, at
the Hogarth Press, and she
835
00:42:56,732 --> 00:43:00,799
were publishing the translations of Freud,
836
00:43:00,799 --> 00:43:04,428
the place was littered with
volumes of Freud in translation,
837
00:43:04,428 --> 00:43:06,805
which for years and years and
years, she didn't pick up.
838
00:43:06,805 --> 00:43:09,495
She wasn't interested in
it and she was resistant to
839
00:43:09,495 --> 00:43:12,060
because she clearly was extremely anxious
840
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:17,003
that psychoanalysis or
reading Freud would somehow
841
00:43:17,003 --> 00:43:20,757
stop her from functioning or
make her too aware of herself.
842
00:43:20,757 --> 00:43:23,572
So one of the very interesting
things that happens
843
00:43:23,572 --> 00:43:28,580
very late in her life is that
she starts reading Freud.
844
00:43:29,484 --> 00:43:31,611
- [Narrator] It was only the
other day when I read Freud
845
00:43:31,611 --> 00:43:34,176
for the first time that I discovered
846
00:43:34,176 --> 00:43:38,055
that this violently disturbing
conflict of love and hate
847
00:43:38,055 --> 00:43:43,029
is a common feeling and
it is called ambivalence.
848
00:43:43,029 --> 00:43:47,638
- And although their views of
what was wrong with the world
849
00:43:49,786 --> 00:43:52,976
for him, the patriarchy breaking down
850
00:43:52,976 --> 00:43:58,190
and for her, the loss
of any kind of a mother
851
00:43:58,450 --> 00:44:03,581
of motherly values, I mean
they were not of a mind.
852
00:44:03,581 --> 00:44:06,521
But I think that there was real sympathy
853
00:44:06,521 --> 00:44:10,650
and probably real mutual
understanding and respect.
854
00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:12,364
- [Narrator] I have seen Marie Stopes,
855
00:44:12,364 --> 00:44:14,623
Princesse de Polignac,
Philip and Pippin Woolf
856
00:44:14,623 --> 00:44:16,941
and Dr. Freud in the last three days.
857
00:44:17,814 --> 00:44:20,444
Dr. Freud gave me a narcissus.
858
00:44:22,349 --> 00:44:25,884
- I think the last couple of
years of Virginia Woolf's life
859
00:44:25,884 --> 00:44:28,731
were really harrowing in many ways.
860
00:44:28,731 --> 00:44:32,610
- [Narrator] They came very
close, we lay down under a tree.
861
00:44:32,610 --> 00:44:36,395
The sound was like someone
soaring in the air just above us.
862
00:44:36,395 --> 00:44:39,085
We lay flat on our
faces, hands behind head,
863
00:44:39,085 --> 00:44:41,024
don't close your teeth at L.
864
00:44:41,024 --> 00:44:43,996
They seemed to be soaring
at something stationary.
865
00:44:43,996 --> 00:44:46,762
Bombs shook the windows of my lodge.
866
00:44:46,762 --> 00:44:51,316
I thought, I think of
nothingness, flatness,
867
00:44:51,316 --> 00:44:54,913
my mood being flat, some fear I suppose.
868
00:44:54,913 --> 00:44:59,637
- There were shortages,
food, petrol, all of that.
869
00:45:00,575 --> 00:45:02,296
Their house was bombed in London,
870
00:45:02,296 --> 00:45:04,798
bombed to smithereens,
in Tavistock Square,
871
00:45:04,798 --> 00:45:07,269
When they went up to
salvage what they could
872
00:45:07,269 --> 00:45:08,896
in a blitzed London.
873
00:45:08,896 --> 00:45:10,992
- [Narrator] Back from
half a day in London,
874
00:45:10,992 --> 00:45:13,213
perhaps our strangest visit,
875
00:45:13,213 --> 00:45:15,590
Mecklenburg Square roped off,
876
00:45:15,590 --> 00:45:17,748
warden's there, not allowed in.
877
00:45:17,748 --> 00:45:20,157
The house about 30 yards from ours
878
00:45:20,157 --> 00:45:24,662
struck at one this morning
by a bomb, completely ruined.
879
00:45:24,662 --> 00:45:27,321
Another bomb in the
square still unexploded.
880
00:45:27,321 --> 00:45:30,042
That is a great pile of bricks.
881
00:45:30,042 --> 00:45:31,669
Underneath all the people
882
00:45:31,669 --> 00:45:33,702
who'd gone down to their shelter.
883
00:45:33,702 --> 00:45:35,985
- The things she rescued were her diaries,
884
00:45:35,985 --> 00:45:37,643
the volumes of her diaries.
885
00:45:37,643 --> 00:45:40,396
Partly because she was
writing about her childhood.
886
00:45:40,396 --> 00:45:42,648
She was writing a memoir,
887
00:45:42,648 --> 00:45:47,059
which I think she found both
painful and also consoling.
888
00:45:47,059 --> 00:45:48,529
She was finishing a novel
889
00:45:48,529 --> 00:45:50,969
and that was always a very
perilous moment for her.
890
00:45:50,969 --> 00:45:54,973
The novel was about a
country on the brink of war.
891
00:45:54,973 --> 00:45:57,225
And she thought it was hopeless.
892
00:45:57,225 --> 00:45:59,353
She often thought her
own work was hopeless.
893
00:45:59,353 --> 00:46:02,731
She sank into a tremendous
depression about that.
894
00:46:02,731 --> 00:46:07,173
There was a real sense
of imminent invasion.
895
00:46:07,173 --> 00:46:09,926
They knew that because Leonard was Jewish
896
00:46:09,926 --> 00:46:12,929
and they were both radicals and socialists
897
00:46:12,929 --> 00:46:17,388
and had written against Nazism,
898
00:46:18,372 --> 00:46:20,905
they knew very well that they would be on,
899
00:46:20,905 --> 00:46:23,661
as indeed they were,
on Hitler's blacklist.
900
00:46:24,565 --> 00:46:28,569
So they had discussed
suicide very rationally
901
00:46:28,569 --> 00:46:31,228
in the event of invasion.
902
00:46:31,228 --> 00:46:34,169
- [Narrator] But though L says
he has petrol in the garage
903
00:46:34,169 --> 00:46:38,298
for suicide should Hitler win, we go on.
904
00:46:38,298 --> 00:46:41,833
It's the vastness and the smallness
905
00:46:41,833 --> 00:46:43,678
that makes this possible.
906
00:46:43,678 --> 00:46:46,368
- I hadn't realized the impact
907
00:46:46,368 --> 00:46:49,903
that the war, that stage
of the war had on her.
908
00:46:49,903 --> 00:46:52,937
I mean this strain of the feeling,
909
00:46:52,937 --> 00:46:55,690
the bombs, going to be
invaded and all that.
910
00:46:55,690 --> 00:46:59,694
I mean, she and Leonard had
decided to blow themselves up
911
00:46:59,694 --> 00:47:04,637
in their garage if Hitler
invaded England, quite literally.
912
00:47:04,637 --> 00:47:06,722
- And I think all these different things
913
00:47:08,234 --> 00:47:10,830
created a situation for her,
914
00:47:10,830 --> 00:47:13,802
which she couldn't see a way out of.
915
00:47:13,802 --> 00:47:17,337
So I think that her suicide
916
00:47:17,337 --> 00:47:20,402
on a cold day in March in 1941
917
00:47:20,402 --> 00:47:23,155
was a decision,
918
00:47:23,155 --> 00:47:28,369
not something that she did
without mental control.
919
00:47:28,629 --> 00:47:30,506
- I hadn't realized that she felt
920
00:47:30,506 --> 00:47:33,655
that she was going to go mad again.
921
00:47:33,655 --> 00:47:38,869
So that this, although we were
living close by at the time,
922
00:47:39,766 --> 00:47:42,737
and I saw her a few
days before it happened
923
00:47:42,737 --> 00:47:45,521
and I realized that she
was under the weather.
924
00:47:45,521 --> 00:47:50,735
And she made this sort of
tremendous demand for love
925
00:47:50,777 --> 00:47:53,404
that she was in habit of making, rather.
926
00:47:53,404 --> 00:47:55,093
I mean, she would, particularly,
927
00:47:55,093 --> 00:47:58,440
I think just because I was
an undemonstrative child,
928
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,694
she would quite often say, but
Angelica, don't you love me?
929
00:48:01,694 --> 00:48:04,037
Don't you adore me? Do
you know you hate me?
930
00:48:04,037 --> 00:48:05,232
You don't like me at all.
931
00:48:05,232 --> 00:48:07,012
This sort of way of going on.
932
00:48:07,012 --> 00:48:09,107
But she did it particularly on that day.
933
00:48:09,107 --> 00:48:12,145
And of course, I mean, as I remember it,
934
00:48:15,279 --> 00:48:19,231
I was particularly cold and
undemonstrative on that day.
935
00:48:19,231 --> 00:48:24,445
(somber music)
(water trickling)
936
00:48:32,725 --> 00:48:35,477
And then the next thing I heard,
937
00:48:35,477 --> 00:48:38,053
a telephone call to say that
938
00:48:39,263 --> 00:48:41,395
she had drowned herself.
939
00:48:41,395 --> 00:48:46,608
(somber music)
(water trickling)70486
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