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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,590 --> 00:00:03,670 You're watching CNBC On Demand. 2 00:00:07,410 --> 00:00:12,230 In this episode of American Greed, how WeWork went wild. 3 00:00:12,670 --> 00:00:16,370 The story of an office space company with cosmic ambitions. 4 00:00:16,870 --> 00:00:21,590 WeWork is using desks and co -working to enter into the larger category of life. 5 00:00:21,890 --> 00:00:24,550 A CEO with a messianic vibe. 6 00:00:25,070 --> 00:00:26,450 He can manifest anything. 7 00:00:26,710 --> 00:00:29,690 He can literally make things appear out of thin air. 8 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:35,100 And the investors who gave him $12 billion and turned a blind eye. 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:41,039 He was like the cocaine that Silicon Valley venture capitalists were just 10 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:42,090 waiting to snort. 11 00:00:42,540 --> 00:00:47,240 American greed has the inside scoop on how the company nearly collapsed. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,540 The partying. 13 00:00:51,541 --> 00:00:55,759 He's like jumping there, like pumping fists, like, you know. And I'm like, 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,740 he's like the CEO and the second in command of my job. 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,650 The promises. 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,400 You have Willy Wonka's golden ticket. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,340 You're at the next Facebook or the next Google. 18 00:01:06,820 --> 00:01:08,360 The dashed hopes. 19 00:01:08,940 --> 00:01:13,659 You expected me to be a gazillionaire, right? And now you're basically, you got 20 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:20,080 nothing. And how some of the responsible parties walked away richer than ever. 21 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:25,839 Adam Neumann is getting a massive payout. $1 .7 billion while his workers 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,380 getting laid off. That hurts. 23 00:01:27,850 --> 00:01:32,130 No one else in the world gets passes the way CEOs get passes. 24 00:01:32,870 --> 00:01:35,309 You, my friend, are full of... 25 00:01:35,310 --> 00:01:55,269 Madison 26 00:01:55,270 --> 00:01:56,370 Square Garden. 27 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:01,820 The legendary venue has hosted the world's biggest pop stars over the 28 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:08,639 But in January 2018, the Garden stages a different kind of star. 29 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,459 Here comes Adam. When he's like thick, thick, got his long wavy hair, he's 30 00:02:13,460 --> 00:02:17,639 usually got a black leather coat or a white T -shirt. He comes out and he just 31 00:02:17,640 --> 00:02:22,720 takes over the room. Hello, New York. Hello, global citizens of this earth. 32 00:02:24,260 --> 00:02:25,660 It's Adam Neumann. 33 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:29,900 The founder and CEO of co -working company WeWork. 34 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,919 Newman has gathered 6 ,000 employees, including Don Lewis, for a WeWork Global 35 00:02:36,920 --> 00:02:41,940 Summit. It's a corporate retreat. It feels a bit like a revival meeting. 36 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,820 He gives off positive energy. 37 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:52,979 He makes you feel alive. And he sounds like he truly believes in what he is 38 00:02:52,980 --> 00:02:56,599 saying. When you do something that comes from the heart, when you find your 39 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,010 passion, you bring it together with intention. 40 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,399 It's like when you turn on that TV channel and there's like some 41 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,559 and they call someone up and they touch someone on the head and like, oh, you're 42 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,760 cured of cancer. Like it was almost that bad. 43 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:11,660 After a while, Lewis needs to stretch. 44 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:17,279 And I go to stand on a wall and a security guard for the Maddox Square 45 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,539 place comes and stands next to me. He's an older black man. He must have been 46 00:03:20,540 --> 00:03:22,000 about. 70 years old. 47 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:26,380 Hey, you work for this company? He said, what do they do? Like, what do you do? 48 00:03:26,381 --> 00:03:30,219 And I'm like, well, you know, they give office space to people all over the 49 00:03:30,220 --> 00:03:33,179 world and they try to help companies, you know, come together. And he's like, 50 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:34,920 well, this is quite a presentation. 51 00:03:35,220 --> 00:03:40,799 And then get a little further along the conversation. He's like, brother, can I 52 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:41,859 ask you a serious question? 53 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:45,110 And I said, sure, ask whatever you want. Is this some kind of cult? 54 00:03:46,260 --> 00:03:49,560 I actually started laughing. 55 00:03:50,670 --> 00:03:56,069 Why is the security guard asking questions that billionaire venture 56 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:57,120 are not? 57 00:03:59,610 --> 00:04:04,769 Adam Neumann's story begins in Israel on a kibbutz, where he spends his middle 58 00:04:04,770 --> 00:04:09,870 school years living with his older sister, Adi, and his mother, who is a 59 00:04:10,210 --> 00:04:14,649 He loved aspects of the kibbutz life, but he thought it was inherently unfair 60 00:04:14,650 --> 00:04:17,670 because everything was shared. Even people... 61 00:04:17,980 --> 00:04:21,180 From the kibbutz days, he said he wanted more. 62 00:04:21,459 --> 00:04:27,739 He was very, even then, focused on sort of attaining wealth and thinking really 63 00:04:27,740 --> 00:04:28,790 big. 64 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:33,600 Adi, on the left, grows up to become a famous model. 65 00:04:34,060 --> 00:04:39,659 And in this Israeli TV footage never before seen in America, Adam says he's 66 00:04:39,660 --> 00:04:41,900 going to follow his sister to New York. 67 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:54,409 Rocking a look fit for Soho, Adam and Adi shove off for the Big Apple and move 68 00:04:54,410 --> 00:04:56,210 into a high -rise downtown. 69 00:04:57,230 --> 00:05:02,689 Later, he will say that at first, he finds New Yorkers self -absorbed and 70 00:05:02,690 --> 00:05:03,740 unwelcoming. 71 00:05:04,300 --> 00:05:08,479 and I would go up and down the elevators with 15 floors, and I would notice that 72 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,699 no one would say hello to me in the elevator. And I asked my sister, I said, 73 00:05:11,700 --> 00:05:14,770 this an American thing, or do people really not want to talk? 74 00:05:15,020 --> 00:05:17,800 Adam says he challenges Adi to a game. 75 00:05:18,180 --> 00:05:21,320 Whoever makes more friends in a month wins. 76 00:05:22,350 --> 00:05:26,290 Let's each find one apartment that we can go unannounced, because being 77 00:05:26,291 --> 00:05:29,749 you're used to just going to your friends, knocking on the door and 78 00:05:29,750 --> 00:05:32,030 Unannounced, and we'll have a cup of coffee. 79 00:05:32,031 --> 00:05:35,749 And for the next month, we all introduced ourselves to different. It 80 00:05:35,750 --> 00:05:37,150 floors. She got 12 floors. 81 00:05:37,350 --> 00:05:40,120 I got three floors. She also was a supermodel at the time. 82 00:05:40,390 --> 00:05:41,850 And it's okay. 83 00:05:42,710 --> 00:05:45,390 In the story, he's technically the loser. 84 00:05:45,770 --> 00:05:48,750 But he tells it with the je ne sais quoi of a winner. 85 00:05:49,370 --> 00:05:52,450 and thereby trumpets one of his extraordinary talents. 86 00:05:53,130 --> 00:05:55,310 He is a complete genius at connecting. 87 00:05:55,610 --> 00:05:59,689 People who would be in the apartment at the time, people who lived in the 88 00:05:59,690 --> 00:06:04,969 apartment, say that, you know, Adam, even then, was always, like, you'd come 89 00:06:04,970 --> 00:06:07,869 into his apartment, he's like, let me tell you about this business idea that I 90 00:06:07,870 --> 00:06:08,920 have. 91 00:06:09,850 --> 00:06:14,869 Newman launches two businesses that fail, and he finds himself with the ball 92 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:17,490 chain of a lease at this building in Brooklyn. 93 00:06:18,090 --> 00:06:22,969 Around this time, through mutual friends, Newman meets a young architect 94 00:06:22,970 --> 00:06:24,370 Miguel McKelvey. 95 00:06:25,350 --> 00:06:29,430 He and Adam would go on these long walks and just sort of brainstorm ideas. 96 00:06:29,431 --> 00:06:32,749 Adam was, you know, always just restless, always hungering for the next 97 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:36,010 thing. Adam knew that co -working existed. 98 00:06:36,470 --> 00:06:40,749 And he started saying, what if we just took one of these floors of this 99 00:06:40,750 --> 00:06:44,469 that we're working in? We could subdivide it. We think it could be a 100 00:06:44,470 --> 00:06:45,520 business. 101 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,619 Newman is encouraged by his wife, Rebecca, who will later portray Adam's 102 00:06:50,620 --> 00:06:54,220 potential in heroic, even mystical terms. 103 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:59,279 Oh, yeah. When I met my husband, he couldn't buy me dinner or even afford a 104 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:04,339 taxi. Really? I just knew that he was going to be the man that was going to 105 00:07:04,340 --> 00:07:08,360 hopefully help save the world. He can manifest anything. 106 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,600 He can literally make things appear out of thin air. 107 00:07:11,940 --> 00:07:14,500 Never seen anything like it. Wow. Yeah. 108 00:07:15,150 --> 00:07:20,549 With Rebecca at his side, telling him to shoot for the moon, Newman and McKelvey 109 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:24,950 strike out on their own. They call their new venture WeWork. 110 00:07:25,210 --> 00:07:28,390 It really felt like the start of an era. 111 00:07:29,050 --> 00:07:31,950 Lisa Skye is WeWork's second employee. 112 00:07:32,490 --> 00:07:35,550 That means she does a little bit of everything. 113 00:07:36,380 --> 00:07:40,420 I was the founding community manager is what I have on my LinkedIn profile. 114 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:45,859 But that meant I was responsible for sales, tours, billing through our 115 00:07:45,860 --> 00:07:50,919 QuickBooks software system, IT because my IT person was in high school at that 116 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,579 time. So I was in the data closet connecting the wires to make sure people 117 00:07:55,580 --> 00:08:01,019 get their Internet use because that's most important. And whatever needed to 118 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:02,460 done, that's what I was doing. 119 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It was really intense. It was around the clock. 120 00:08:06,260 --> 00:08:10,340 But people, you know, felt like they were all together building something 121 00:08:12,540 --> 00:08:18,899 WeWork signs long -term leases with landlords, usually for large urban 122 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:23,280 Then they subdivide the space into small glass -walled units. 123 00:08:24,010 --> 00:08:28,789 They'll make money as long as they pay less in rent to the landlord than they 124 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:32,870 collect from all their tenants, which WeWork calls members. 125 00:08:33,590 --> 00:08:37,609 Why would you take out a five -year lease or a ten -year lease? We'll give 126 00:08:37,610 --> 00:08:41,469 month -to -month lease. We're going to take care of the receptionist. We're 127 00:08:41,470 --> 00:08:43,250 going to take care of the coffee. 128 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:47,219 I used to say you have a bigger commitment to your cell phone than you 129 00:08:47,290 --> 00:08:51,770 They'll charge you a $150 cancellation fee. We'll just let you go at 30 days' 130 00:08:51,870 --> 00:08:53,730 notice and give you your deposit back. 131 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,939 And the second part of it was they were selling the coolness of the space. They 132 00:08:58,940 --> 00:09:00,060 were selling the vibe. 133 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,390 The common space, you know, kind of looked like a rainforest. 134 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:10,259 Justin Zen runs a startup from his kitchen, which happens to be in Hell's 135 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:15,639 Kitchen. When he needs more space, there's one obvious choice. The place 136 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,400 startup dreams are made. 137 00:09:18,060 --> 00:09:24,079 They did a great job just selling that pitch, right? If you don't want to be in 138 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,579 a boring, you know, old -fashioned office space, come to WeWork. We're 139 00:09:28,580 --> 00:09:29,630 make your life great. 140 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,939 WeWork expands quickly, and a positive buzz surrounds Adam Neumann. He starts 141 00:09:35,940 --> 00:09:40,760 hanging out with titans of high tech and seeing how well they're living. 142 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:47,420 Up next, does Adam Neumann think he's the next Mark Zuckerberg? 143 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,460 The social network came out. You know, it's like the world was changing. 144 00:09:51,461 --> 00:09:54,799 Supposedly he watched that movie and was like, this is awesome. 145 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,100 I want to do this. 146 00:10:10,190 --> 00:10:11,990 WeWork is growing fast. 147 00:10:12,630 --> 00:10:16,910 But to keep growing in the world of New York real estate, it will need cash. 148 00:10:17,730 --> 00:10:18,780 Lots of it. 149 00:10:19,550 --> 00:10:24,389 So the reason why WeWork became WeWork and why Adam Neumann became Adam Neumann 150 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:26,350 is because of venture capitalists. 151 00:10:27,730 --> 00:10:32,609 Venture capitalists provide a company with seed money in its infancy. And if 152 00:10:32,610 --> 00:10:36,390 grows big, the VCs will see outrageous returns. 153 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,419 That's the story of one of venture capital's most legendary players, 154 00:10:42,420 --> 00:10:47,779 Capital. And one of the very first deals that they did is they backed a small 155 00:10:47,780 --> 00:10:49,280 company named eBay. 156 00:10:49,860 --> 00:10:56,120 And this thing paid out like crazy. It ended up making $5 billion in profit. 157 00:10:56,560 --> 00:11:00,340 And so all of a sudden, everybody knows who Benchmark is. 158 00:11:01,020 --> 00:11:06,619 In 2012, Adam Neumann gets word that a benchmark partner named Bruce Dunleavy 159 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:08,900 would like to meet him and take a tour. 160 00:11:09,380 --> 00:11:13,660 So Adam's very well known for giving these tours of WeWork space. 161 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,799 And he loved to give these to investors. And it was part of his sales pitch 162 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,850 basically to them. 163 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:20,720 You know, come walk through the space. 164 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,360 You'll see what this community really is. 165 00:11:23,361 --> 00:11:27,259 A lot of folks talk about how Adam used to activate the space, and what 166 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:31,119 activating the space meant was that when an investor would walk in to the 167 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,079 building, all of a sudden there'd just be this impromptu party. 168 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,399 It was very calculated, but he always sort of acted as if, this just happens 169 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,450 the time. 170 00:11:40,451 --> 00:11:44,339 Essentially it was, get people on the floor. We don't care how, we don't care 171 00:11:44,340 --> 00:11:46,540 what you do, just get people on the floor. 172 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:52,509 And investors in general were... odd really walking around and that was the 173 00:11:52,510 --> 00:11:57,369 with bruce dunleavy he came he flew from san francisco to new york he was 174 00:11:57,370 --> 00:12:01,489 skeptical it was a real estate company venture capitalists would much rather 175 00:12:01,490 --> 00:12:07,089 invest in tech companies because tech can scale up a friend of mine who's in 176 00:12:07,090 --> 00:12:11,629 tech refers to them as magic companies because once you build the company once 177 00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:16,149 you build a search engine once you build a way to sell ads on a search engine it 178 00:12:16,150 --> 00:12:20,269 just scales all across the world, and you don't have to hire a bunch more 179 00:12:20,270 --> 00:12:23,129 every single time it gets bigger and bigger and bigger. You just sort of let 180 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:24,670 dollars stream in. 181 00:12:25,230 --> 00:12:28,540 Real estate is just a completely fundamentally different model. 182 00:12:28,570 --> 00:12:30,510 You can't get around the fixed costs. 183 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:33,610 There's only so much scale you can possibly have. 184 00:12:33,611 --> 00:12:38,249 So we work as a real estate company, right? There's no question about that. 185 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:41,729 Like, they're renting real estate, they're selling real estate. It's not 186 00:12:41,730 --> 00:12:42,649 a tech company. 187 00:12:42,650 --> 00:12:43,659 Who's your biggest... 188 00:12:43,660 --> 00:12:45,770 So we don't have clients, we have members. 189 00:12:45,940 --> 00:12:52,659 Adam didn't have an MBA. He didn't know finance, but he somehow figured 190 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:58,219 out how to convince the top investors in the whole world that this real estate 191 00:12:58,220 --> 00:13:00,460 business was a software business. 192 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:08,039 Venture Capital likes to invest in software as a service. So WeWork says, 193 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,380 too, and positions itself as space as a service. 194 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:17,459 Newman also hypes an internal social network designed to bring WeWork members 195 00:13:17,460 --> 00:13:18,510 together. 196 00:13:19,660 --> 00:13:23,960 Adam Newman is like an entrepreneur cartoon character come to life. 197 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:29,120 WeWork is using desk and co -working to enter into the larger category of life. 198 00:13:29,380 --> 00:13:34,280 And when he talks about the world and about his vision, he talks huge. 199 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:38,519 You can be a member of WE. And with that membership, you have access to physical 200 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,339 space all over the world. You have friends. You have colleagues. You have 201 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:46,279 customers. He's building the world's first physical social network. I don't 202 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:49,499 know what that means. Nobody knows what that means. But he's selling it. 203 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:51,200 And benchmarks buying. 204 00:13:51,980 --> 00:13:56,500 They invest $17 million into WE work at a critical time. 205 00:13:57,210 --> 00:14:02,449 The culture of WeWork at the beginning of 2013 was a million miles an hour. For 206 00:14:02,450 --> 00:14:04,590 someone like me, I relished it. I loved it. 207 00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:12,069 The pace was frantic. It was hair on fire every single day. But part of that 208 00:14:12,070 --> 00:14:15,430 hair on fire culture, of course, is camaraderie, right? 209 00:14:15,970 --> 00:14:18,570 Something blew up, let's figure out how to fix it. 210 00:14:19,230 --> 00:14:24,849 Despite the frenetic pace and long hours, the pay is below what many 211 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:25,900 would expect. 212 00:14:26,380 --> 00:14:30,019 So the big dream, I think, for most people was that there's going to be a 213 00:14:30,020 --> 00:14:33,699 gold at the end, right? Like, you know, this place is going to go public and 214 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,560 we're all going to be threats, right? 215 00:14:36,900 --> 00:14:41,379 I mean, the words rocket ship to success, I think, was actually used in 216 00:14:41,380 --> 00:14:46,039 introduction meeting that that feeling of like you have Willy Wonka's golden 217 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,040 ticket. You are here in the right place at the right time. 218 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,160 You're at the next Facebook or the next Google. 219 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,880 Up next, work hard, play harder. 220 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,980 What could possibly go wrong with Canoes Full of Booze? 221 00:15:22,819 --> 00:15:29,399 In 2015, Adam Neumann visits CNBC Studios and reiterates his idea that 222 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,140 WeWork is not a real estate company. 223 00:15:32,141 --> 00:15:33,579 How fast are you growing? 224 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:37,279 Very. What kind of numbers are we talking about? We're talking about 225 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,080 one of the fastest physical expansions that has been seen for the past 10 226 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:43,580 London, Tel Aviv, Amsterdam. 227 00:15:43,581 --> 00:15:47,159 But this is about workspace, right? If I need a desk somewhere? This is much 228 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,689 bigger than workspace. This is about changing the way you work. 229 00:15:49,690 --> 00:15:53,109 But Adam was saying, no, no, no, no, no, that's not the business. The real 230 00:15:53,110 --> 00:15:55,730 business is the community platform behind it. 231 00:15:55,990 --> 00:15:59,530 It had a feel of being like a startup incubator in a way. 232 00:16:00,010 --> 00:16:04,129 And WeWork knew that when you get a lot of interesting people together, that 233 00:16:04,130 --> 00:16:05,289 interesting things happen. 234 00:16:05,290 --> 00:16:08,829 If I'm starting a business, I need a great graphic designer, a good web 235 00:16:08,830 --> 00:16:12,469 developer, I need a PR team, I need a lawyer, and I need someone to help me 236 00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:16,129 sales. And all of that put together is what you can find inside of WeWork, both 237 00:16:16,130 --> 00:16:17,450 physically and virtually. 238 00:16:18,010 --> 00:16:22,690 I don't think the community is as close as what they were pitching it to be. 239 00:16:23,450 --> 00:16:28,850 Justin Zen is disappointed after moving his startup into a WeWork space. 240 00:16:30,730 --> 00:16:34,930 You know, there's three beer every day at 4 .30. They literally wrote in a keg. 241 00:16:34,931 --> 00:16:38,889 Well, most people would take the beer and they would go back to the office 242 00:16:38,890 --> 00:16:39,940 it. 243 00:16:40,150 --> 00:16:44,530 Zen has a way to confirm or refute his drinking alone hunch. 244 00:16:45,050 --> 00:16:50,069 He applies his proprietary system of data analytics to WeWork's highly touted 245 00:16:50,070 --> 00:16:51,120 social network. 246 00:16:51,350 --> 00:16:56,830 Zen finds out that almost 8 out of 10 WeWork members have never even logged 247 00:16:56,910 --> 00:17:02,669 And 5 of the top 10 users, with the most followers, including Adam Neumann, are 248 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:03,720 WeWork employees. 249 00:17:04,930 --> 00:17:10,889 So it's a social network where your main users, they're just posting a lot 250 00:17:10,890 --> 00:17:12,369 because they're paid to do so. 251 00:17:13,690 --> 00:17:15,329 Zen publishes his data. 252 00:17:15,690 --> 00:17:19,170 Newman himself sees it and is not happy. 253 00:17:19,530 --> 00:17:25,088 The community manager told us, he said, Adam, you know, he saw the blog post and 254 00:17:25,089 --> 00:17:29,570 management is upset and you have 30 minutes to leave. You're being kicked 255 00:17:30,270 --> 00:17:34,670 We were called Zen's analysis inaccurate and incomplete. 256 00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:39,610 According to Zen, the community manager says he has violated the, quote, 257 00:17:39,690 --> 00:17:42,010 community happiness clause. 258 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,239 Obviously, they were the landlords, but yeah, we thought it was a major 259 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:48,290 overreaction. 260 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:54,759 For Adam Neumann, commitment to WeWork is all or nothing. And some former 261 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,100 employees say that's especially true for them. 262 00:17:59,690 --> 00:18:03,869 What was really sold, I think, that energized a lot of people was this we 263 00:18:03,870 --> 00:18:07,749 concept. Anybody who understands the sharing economy and that being part of 264 00:18:07,750 --> 00:18:11,129 something greater than yourself is meaningful is a member of the we 265 00:18:11,130 --> 00:18:16,710 We were all told regularly that we're all here to serve this greater purpose. 266 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:21,309 It was we are going to do this in a way that we're helping the world, we're 267 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:23,840 helping community, we're helping the little guy. 268 00:18:23,841 --> 00:18:27,949 They would say, like, you know, we're like your family, your we family. 269 00:18:27,950 --> 00:18:32,369 So when you're spending time with people you consider to be like family, it 270 00:18:32,370 --> 00:18:33,690 doesn't feel like work. 271 00:18:33,930 --> 00:18:36,450 They put the cult in culture was a common saying. 272 00:18:38,030 --> 00:18:43,050 And that culture reaches full flower in the woods upstate. 273 00:18:43,550 --> 00:18:46,310 It felt like being a little kid in some ways. 274 00:18:47,170 --> 00:18:49,070 We all piled onto buses. 275 00:18:49,071 --> 00:18:54,049 Summer camp was literally like, you know, some people just put it in a 276 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:59,929 called like a music festival, right? But it was just, it's literally like just 277 00:18:59,930 --> 00:19:00,980 party. 278 00:19:02,730 --> 00:19:06,489 People are drinking at 6 a .m. in the morning, and I was like, oh, God, this 279 00:19:06,490 --> 00:19:07,630 where we're starting? 280 00:19:07,650 --> 00:19:11,310 From 4 p .m. to 4 a .m., there is unlimited alcohol. 281 00:19:11,650 --> 00:19:16,250 Ice Cube performed once, Lin -Manuel Miranda, Florence and the Machine. 282 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,580 I think summer camp ultimately was great as a marketing tool. 283 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:30,140 Hey, I went to a festival for my company where I saw The Weeknd play. 284 00:19:30,500 --> 00:19:35,020 But as an employee, I hated it. And it was mandatory, so that was interesting. 285 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,920 It felt like this requirement that I didn't need. 286 00:19:38,220 --> 00:19:42,679 We were sleeping in a tent. Not that I needed five -star accommodation, but 287 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,180 had five -star accommodation. 288 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,480 Newman's tent has air conditioning, single malt scotch, and fine wine. 289 00:19:50,481 --> 00:19:55,269 Executives would stay on another part of the island and would take a boat back 290 00:19:55,270 --> 00:19:58,460 and forth. We were essentially thrown in pop -up tents with cots. 291 00:19:59,130 --> 00:20:03,409 All of this would not be possible without all of you, so I just want to 292 00:20:03,410 --> 00:20:04,970 thank you so much. 293 00:20:07,850 --> 00:20:14,649 Despite the lofty all -for -one, one -for -all rhetoric, by 2015, some 294 00:20:14,650 --> 00:20:18,050 conclude that WeWork is no kibbutz. 295 00:20:18,051 --> 00:20:22,339 And I remember specifically, I was on the road, but people at the headquarters 296 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:27,059 reached out to me and said, it's a random Tuesday and Adam is throwing a 297 00:20:27,060 --> 00:20:30,959 party. They're drinking tequila and they're like really having a good time. 298 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,159 do you think is going on here? 299 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,359 We clearly just raised a ton of money. Something's about to happen. 300 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:36,780 He's exactly right. 301 00:20:37,460 --> 00:20:42,059 After the initial investment from Benchmark Capital, there are many more 302 00:20:42,060 --> 00:20:43,300 from other investors. 303 00:20:44,250 --> 00:20:49,969 The valuation of WeWork rises exponentially with each raise, and Adam 304 00:20:49,970 --> 00:20:51,020 catches out. 305 00:20:51,150 --> 00:20:56,510 He sells equity and borrows against his stock to the tune of $700 million, 306 00:20:56,990 --> 00:20:59,170 according to the Wall Street Journal. 307 00:20:59,550 --> 00:21:05,149 Though not illegal, cashing out of a startup this early is unusual, according 308 00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:06,200 Maureen Farrell. 309 00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:10,989 It made Benchmark and other investors uncomfortable that Adam Neumann was 310 00:21:10,990 --> 00:21:13,530 out so much money each step of the way. 311 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,260 But not enough to block him from doing so. 312 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,790 Let's think about a certain group of people, your investors. 313 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:22,840 Are you going to IPO in the next year? 314 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:28,239 So here's one of my investors happens to be sitting in the front. He's a big fan 315 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,599 of the IPO, came in very early. Yeah. I would never want to do the math on his 316 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,119 position. That might be why he smiles. That's why he's smiling. See that big 317 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:35,170 smile? 318 00:21:35,380 --> 00:21:41,219 And the crazy thing about investing is you don't care about whether you have to 319 00:21:41,220 --> 00:21:43,210 own the thing for the next 20 or 30 years. 320 00:21:43,790 --> 00:21:47,649 You only care if you're going to be able to sell it to the next guy for more 321 00:21:47,650 --> 00:21:48,700 than you paid for it. 322 00:21:49,170 --> 00:21:54,189 And Adam Neumann, Adam Neumann can make you the next guy believe it's worth the 323 00:21:54,190 --> 00:21:55,240 world. 324 00:21:56,750 --> 00:22:03,290 Up next, enter the next guy, one of the world's richest men, Masayoshi Son. 325 00:22:03,810 --> 00:22:10,689 I mean, he's a risk taker to the extreme, as is Adam. I mean, they were a 326 00:22:10,690 --> 00:22:12,230 combustible combination. 327 00:22:31,690 --> 00:22:36,349 At WeWork's corporate headquarters, Adam Neumann is expecting a very important 328 00:22:36,350 --> 00:22:42,709 visitor. It's Masayoshi San, known simply as Masa, a Japanese billionaire 329 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:45,170 one of the world's preeminent tech investors. 330 00:22:46,030 --> 00:22:51,029 You either think that he's brilliant or crazy or maybe both. Maybe you have to 331 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:55,910 be both to make the kinds of gambles and bets that he's made over his lifetime. 332 00:22:56,590 --> 00:23:00,730 Masa tells Neumann he's in New York to meet the new president -elect. 333 00:23:01,370 --> 00:23:05,450 And on the way to Trump Tower, he'd like to swing by WeWork. 334 00:23:05,770 --> 00:23:09,170 So Adam's planning it for days. Everything has to be perfect. 335 00:23:09,530 --> 00:23:10,710 It's the whole tour. 336 00:23:10,950 --> 00:23:15,809 Adam, among other things, they asked someone to make waffles. So it would 337 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:16,860 really good inside. 338 00:23:17,510 --> 00:23:20,330 Martha keeps Newman waiting and pacing. 339 00:23:20,710 --> 00:23:23,890 The two hours he's blocked off are dwindling fast. 340 00:23:24,370 --> 00:23:29,070 Turns out there will be no time for maple syrup and whipped cream. 341 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:33,320 Masa walks in the door and says, I've got 12 minutes. Go. 342 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,300 After a rushed tour, Masa tells Adam to get in his car. 343 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:43,300 So Adam goes with him, drives with him 30 -odd blocks to Trump Tower. 344 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:48,520 Adam starts telling him more about his plan for global WeWork nomination. 345 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:56,619 Masa poses a question in a fight between a smart person and a crazy person. Who 346 00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:57,670 wins? 347 00:23:57,671 --> 00:24:01,769 And Adam knew the right answer, which is that it's the crazy person. It's the 348 00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:05,889 person willing to do anything. It's the person willing to do what the other 349 00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:07,150 person doesn't expect. 350 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:13,970 In the back of a car, Masayoshi's son and Newman strike a $4 .4 billion deal, 351 00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:17,410 one of the largest capital investments of all time. 352 00:24:17,790 --> 00:24:20,130 Newman is elated when he returns. 353 00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:24,170 And he runs in and is saying, $4 .4 billion. 354 00:24:25,899 --> 00:24:28,609 And everyone's kind of looking at him like he's crazy. 355 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,459 It was, frankly, more money than anyone quite knew what to do with. And it was 356 00:24:33,460 --> 00:24:35,630 money that was going to make everyone rich. 357 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,860 All Newman has to do is live up to Moss's vision of global domination. 358 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:48,299 He's a risk taker to the extreme, as is Adam. I mean, they were a 359 00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:49,800 combustible combination. 360 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,260 Motha would literally say, you're not crazy enough. 361 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,300 And people around Adam Neumann were like, oh, no, don't call him that. 362 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,859 From that moment forward, any sort of restraint that WeWork had was out the 363 00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:09,939 window because Adam now had the money to do whatever he wanted and he had the 364 00:25:09,940 --> 00:25:10,990 permission. 365 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,490 I mean. 366 00:25:17,530 --> 00:25:20,360 He was living large before the thought bank investment. 367 00:25:20,370 --> 00:25:23,530 It just amps up to such an extreme. 368 00:25:24,030 --> 00:25:30,009 According to the Wall Street Journal, the Newmans spend $90 million on six 369 00:25:30,010 --> 00:25:36,709 in Gramercy Park, Greenwich Village, Westchester County, the Hamptons, and 370 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:37,760 County, California. 371 00:25:39,450 --> 00:25:44,989 WeWork buys a brand new top -of -the -line Gulfstream jet at a cost of $60 372 00:25:44,990 --> 00:25:46,040 million. 373 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:50,760 Newman and his family use it to travel the world on surf trips. 374 00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:54,000 His hairdresser would fly around with him. 375 00:25:54,340 --> 00:25:59,739 It was just like a level of extravagance. It's kind of unimaginable, 376 00:25:59,740 --> 00:26:00,940 paper billionaire. 377 00:26:02,360 --> 00:26:07,400 Around this time, Rebecca Newman is appointed as WeWork's chief brand 378 00:26:07,940 --> 00:26:12,620 It all of a sudden became, oh, this is a company founded by Adam. 379 00:26:12,621 --> 00:26:15,959 Rebecca, and there just happens to be this guy named Miguel. 380 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,320 But, you know, he does culture and stuff. 381 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,820 Don't worry about him. And she became a face. 382 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,759 We've got Rebecca Newman in the house. Good to see you. Thank you so much for 383 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,299 being here. I appreciate it. I'm in your house, actually. This is the WeWork 384 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:32,350 headquarters. 385 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,680 Thanks for having me. 386 00:26:33,681 --> 00:26:34,719 Yeah, it's fun. 387 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:38,020 And then it morphed into, well, I helped co -found this company. 388 00:26:38,460 --> 00:26:41,979 And as one of the first hundred people at that company, I will tell you 389 00:26:41,980 --> 00:26:43,030 up, 390 00:26:43,260 --> 00:26:47,859 Now, you are, just so I got it clear, you are a founding partner and chief 391 00:26:47,860 --> 00:26:51,640 officer of WeWork, but also founder and CEO of WeGrow. 392 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,860 Exactly. And what is the mission of WeGrow, just so I understand clearly? 393 00:26:56,140 --> 00:27:00,179 The mission of WeGrow and, quite honestly, the collective we that we're 394 00:27:00,180 --> 00:27:02,950 living under is to elevate the world's consciousness. 395 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:09,559 At WeGrow, specifically through unleashing every human superpower and 396 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,610 happiness. 397 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,150 Okay. This isn't just about work anymore. 398 00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:17,330 This is about life. This is about education. 399 00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:23,569 The curriculum focuses equally on the mind, body, and spirit, and we're basing 400 00:27:23,570 --> 00:27:27,000 bunch of different pedagogies and then creating our own on top of it. 401 00:27:27,090 --> 00:27:31,530 A curriculum that some WeGrow teachers call whimsical. 402 00:27:32,290 --> 00:27:37,769 When the family returns from a surf trip, Rebecca suggests WeGrow should 403 00:27:37,770 --> 00:27:40,070 surfing in New York City. 404 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,799 To me as a former educator, I was a special education teacher before I went 405 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,179 the technology industry, to assume that you could start school with no 406 00:27:49,180 --> 00:27:52,479 educational background and to assume that you could just throw money at the 407 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:57,560 problem and just change the way children learn and live, it's kind of arrogant. 408 00:27:58,540 --> 00:28:05,159 Don Lewis recalls Rebecca explaining WeGrow, where tuition ranges up to $42 409 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,780 a year to a large group of employees. 410 00:28:07,781 --> 00:28:12,529 I remember this almost verbatim. It was like, the New York City private schools 411 00:28:12,530 --> 00:28:14,330 aren't good enough for our children. 412 00:28:14,450 --> 00:28:18,489 The need to start a school came from my husband and I not finding the right 413 00:28:18,490 --> 00:28:19,830 place to send my child. 414 00:28:20,210 --> 00:28:24,209 And I'm sitting there, and I'm like, well, you're talking to a room of, like, 415 00:28:24,210 --> 00:28:26,860 ,000 people right now. Some of them are support staff. 416 00:28:27,070 --> 00:28:32,469 I'm assuming that some of them live in, like, the South Bronx, where their kids 417 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:35,360 go to elementary schools where there's metal detectors. 418 00:28:35,650 --> 00:28:38,120 You know, it's a level of, like, really tone deaf. 419 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Up next, why does Newman need a Hollywood hype man? 420 00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:48,239 Okay, we'll give you an interview with him, but Ashton Kutcher has to go along 421 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,290 for the interview. 422 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,920 Want more greed? 423 00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:56,479 Follow us on Instagram, connect on Facebook, and listen to the American 424 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,840 Podcast wherever you get your podcasts. 425 00:28:59,420 --> 00:29:00,470 We'll be right back. 426 00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:21,749 by a billionaire who tells him he's not crazy enough, Adam Neumann puts WeWork's 427 00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:25,709 pedal to the metal. The pace at which the buildings were opening, right? Just 428 00:29:25,710 --> 00:29:28,540 opening, opening, opening, opening, opening, right? 429 00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:32,270 Some employees are feeling burned out. 430 00:29:33,150 --> 00:29:39,049 Tara Zumer is a WeWork assistant community manager, and she says she 431 00:29:39,050 --> 00:29:41,450 from 8 in the morning until 10 at night. 432 00:29:41,451 --> 00:29:45,409 They used to say, like, well, you get to stay at events. You get the opportunity 433 00:29:45,410 --> 00:29:48,990 of being here as if that was compensation. 434 00:29:49,950 --> 00:29:54,349 And it's just not. I love being around interesting people, but that's not going 435 00:29:54,350 --> 00:29:55,430 to put food on my table. 436 00:29:55,850 --> 00:29:58,930 Zoomers say she makes $42 ,000 a year. 437 00:29:59,770 --> 00:30:02,930 It was the first time I actually started going broke working. 438 00:30:03,290 --> 00:30:07,069 And that's when I started to question things, too. Like, how long can I keep 439 00:30:07,070 --> 00:30:07,789 this up? 440 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:09,910 What payday am I actually waiting for? 441 00:30:10,130 --> 00:30:12,730 And will I even be able to make it to that payday? 442 00:30:13,150 --> 00:30:15,890 Much of her job is hands -on. 443 00:30:16,430 --> 00:30:17,480 Clicking button. 444 00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:20,170 You know, ordering milk. 445 00:30:20,450 --> 00:30:21,790 Cleaning up Taco Tuesday. 446 00:30:22,210 --> 00:30:27,870 But Zoomer has manager in her title and therefore is not eligible for overtime. 447 00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:30,170 She thinks she should be. 448 00:30:30,910 --> 00:30:35,330 She reaches out to other assistant managers and consults a lawyer. 449 00:30:36,270 --> 00:30:40,549 But I knew that my story wasn't really unique either. That was the reason for a 450 00:30:40,550 --> 00:30:43,709 class action lawsuit, when you realize you're not that special, actually. 451 00:30:43,710 --> 00:30:47,449 There's a lot of people who are doing the same work that you're doing who 452 00:30:47,450 --> 00:30:49,650 also want to get paid for those extra hours. 453 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:56,009 WeWork's legal team catches wind, and Zoomer is summoned to a room with stacks 454 00:30:56,010 --> 00:30:57,060 of paper. 455 00:30:57,061 --> 00:31:00,729 Everything inside of me knew that this was not a good thing. You know, and I 456 00:31:00,730 --> 00:31:03,589 them know very politely, like, I'm not signing this. I don't know what I'm 457 00:31:03,590 --> 00:31:05,510 signing, so I'm going to take some time. 458 00:31:05,660 --> 00:31:10,600 Someone in the room asked, is she allowed to do that? I was like, I better 459 00:31:10,601 --> 00:31:13,839 Like, this is still America, right? Are you going to put my hand on the paper 460 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,820 and, like, sign it for me? It's insane. 461 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,979 Zoomer's lawyer reviews the document and says signing would waive her right to a 462 00:31:21,980 --> 00:31:26,480 jury trial and to pursue legal action. But it's too late. 463 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:31,660 Many community managers across WeWork go ahead and sign. 464 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,880 My lawyer said this is going to blow. 465 00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:38,300 any class action claim for everyone forever. 466 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:40,480 So it's dead. 467 00:31:41,020 --> 00:31:44,700 Her lawyer warns Tara to prepare for the backlash. 468 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,500 I had a high probability feeling that I would be fired Monday. 469 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,250 She's right. 470 00:31:51,791 --> 00:31:59,759 There's always this crazy little thing that tech companies say or startups say. 471 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,659 It's like, oh, if we stopped growing, we'd be profitable tomorrow. 472 00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:03,760 Growth at all costs. 473 00:32:04,190 --> 00:32:08,729 Growth at all costs. Don't worry about the losses because they aren't actually 474 00:32:08,730 --> 00:32:12,450 losses. They're investments. I think that's actually what WeWork told me. 475 00:32:12,790 --> 00:32:14,530 But right now they're losing money. 476 00:32:15,850 --> 00:32:16,900 Accounting -wise. 477 00:32:16,930 --> 00:32:19,090 Because they're growing so quickly. 478 00:32:19,510 --> 00:32:24,210 In 2018, WeWork loses almost $2 billion. 479 00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:31,009 But Masayoshi -san still believes WeWork will become the global juggernaut of 480 00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:32,060 office space. 481 00:32:32,250 --> 00:32:36,930 He and Newman hatch a plan to invest another $20 billion into WeWork. 482 00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:41,410 And it would be one of the biggest private investments ever. 483 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:44,830 Two funny things happen on the way to global domination. 484 00:32:45,950 --> 00:32:50,669 Saudi Arabia, whose sovereign wealth fund comprises more than half of MASA's 485 00:32:50,670 --> 00:32:52,970 capital, pulls out of the deal. 486 00:32:53,890 --> 00:32:59,249 Second, the Wall Street Journal breaks news about the plan, and investors don't 487 00:32:59,250 --> 00:33:00,330 like what they hear. 488 00:33:00,890 --> 00:33:05,189 Masa called Adam, sorry, we're calling off the deal. The shareholders are going 489 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:05,769 to revolt. 490 00:33:05,770 --> 00:33:08,630 This could blow up my whole company. I can't do it. 491 00:33:09,310 --> 00:33:13,530 Adam was completely shocked, as were every senior executive. 492 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:16,080 And then all of a sudden, the deal fell apart. 493 00:33:16,250 --> 00:33:19,310 And that's about when I sat down with Adam Newman. 494 00:33:20,790 --> 00:33:25,290 I had been trying to get an interview with Adam Newman for months and months. 495 00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:29,899 Finally, they said, okay, Deirdre, if you fly down to L .A., We'll give you an 496 00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:30,950 interview with him. 497 00:33:31,060 --> 00:33:33,710 But Ashton Kutcher has to go along for the interview. 498 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,920 I said, okay. 499 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:40,139 In addition to being a TV and film star, Ashton Kutcher is a successful 500 00:33:40,140 --> 00:33:41,500 technology investor. 501 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,499 But when I actually got underneath the hood. I would describe Ashton Kutcher as 502 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:47,980 Adam Neumann's hype man. 503 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,859 I realized it was a technology company. And I realized that through the 504 00:33:51,860 --> 00:33:56,339 technology this company has, it has a greater capacity than any other company 505 00:33:56,340 --> 00:33:57,390 the entire world. 506 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:03,660 Kutcher argues that Moss's commitment is still enormous by almost any standard. 507 00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,239 It's the second largest venture capital investment of all time. 508 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:11,559 I'm an investor in Uber, so I know what the first largest one was. 509 00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,499 I often ask, how will you know when you're ready to be a public company? You 510 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:21,698 ready. We work and always ready for an IPO. We will choose the right time to do 511 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:25,549 it when it's correct for the mission of the company. What are you looking for? 512 00:34:25,550 --> 00:34:27,738 I want to elevate the world's consciousness. 513 00:34:27,739 --> 00:34:31,779 Okay, so when you do that, then you can go public? One or the other. When I feel 514 00:34:31,780 --> 00:34:35,600 that to achieve that mission, going public will help it, that will be the 515 00:34:35,780 --> 00:34:39,690 Okay, we talked a lot about the private market. Shortly after this interview, 516 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,339 WeWork does indeed plan to go public, not because it's elevated the world's 517 00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:47,300 consciousness, but because it needs the money. 518 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,840 Up next, going public means WeWork's curtain is pulled back. 519 00:34:53,659 --> 00:34:56,849 I remember sitting in the middle of the newsroom and it dropped. 520 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,840 And I run to the camera. I said, we have to get this on right now. 521 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,740 Another tech unicorn has filed to go public. This time it is WeWork. 522 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,319 As WeWork prepares for its Wall Street debut, Adam Neumann's behavior is a bit 523 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:31,559 erratic. He's skipping board meetings to go surfing. And he reportedly tells 524 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:36,999 several WeWork executives he wants to be the world's first trillionaire with a 525 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,050 team. 526 00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:41,999 He's telling his friends at this point also that he wants to become the prime 527 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,099 minister of Israel or maybe the president of the world, which there is 528 00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:46,960 president of the world, but whatever. 529 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:53,039 It's the board of directors' job to either rein in a wayward CEO or show him 530 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,280 door. With WeWork, neither happens. 531 00:35:56,740 --> 00:35:58,120 They just wanted to get rich. 532 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,759 And so in the interest of getting rich, they totally ignored what was clearly 533 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:08,240 bat -crazy because all they saw was a payday right over the horizon. 534 00:36:09,340 --> 00:36:14,519 To get there, WeWork needs to submit to the government a document called an S 535 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,789 -1. Typically, these are dense and filled with data explaining in detail 536 00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:24,929 company makes money. But Adam and Rebecca Newman take it as an opportunity 537 00:36:24,930 --> 00:36:25,990 self -expression. 538 00:36:26,450 --> 00:36:31,009 She treated it like the September issue of Vogue, that this was going to be a 539 00:36:31,010 --> 00:36:32,210 beautiful document. 540 00:36:33,210 --> 00:36:35,050 Adam thought it was his masterpiece. 541 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,220 Best thing he had ever written in his entire life. 542 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,059 Despite the glossy photographs, the S1 will reveal much about WeWork and 543 00:36:46,060 --> 00:36:49,840 answer the question, what makes WeWork so special? 544 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:02,019 That day, the day the S1 was released, the place was just aflame with criticism 545 00:37:02,020 --> 00:37:04,180 of everything in the document. 546 00:37:04,890 --> 00:37:10,409 Scorn is heaped upon the document's dedication to the energy of we greater 547 00:37:10,410 --> 00:37:13,010 any one of us, but inside each of us. 548 00:37:14,990 --> 00:37:19,689 The document is packed with jaw -dropping revelations, some that seem 549 00:37:19,690 --> 00:37:22,690 line with a royal family than a publicly traded company. 550 00:37:23,170 --> 00:37:27,570 The succession plan shocked people. I mean, basically, his wife. 551 00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:33,609 who was a co -founder retroactively, would play a key role in shooting his 552 00:37:33,610 --> 00:37:36,370 successor if he was incapacitated or he died. 553 00:37:36,710 --> 00:37:41,190 And that just seemed ridiculous to people or just so over the top. 554 00:37:42,010 --> 00:37:48,450 Newman has borrowed an astounding $740 million against WeWork stock. 555 00:37:49,170 --> 00:37:54,189 Also, he is personally a partner in several large buildings in New York, 556 00:37:54,190 --> 00:37:57,210 have rented space to WeWork. So in some cases... 557 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,439 Adam Newman, the man, is the landlord of WeWork, the company. In addition to 558 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,740 this self -dealing, the overarching business model of WeWork looks shaky. 559 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:10,500 It's still losing billions of dollars every year. 560 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:15,780 He did say on television many times, we are profitable. 561 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:20,100 Are you actually turning a profit? We are definitely turning a profit. 562 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:23,980 But there's this like asterisk in his mind of... 563 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,460 If you subtract out all these other costs, we're totally profitable. 564 00:38:29,140 --> 00:38:34,700 Once everything was in plain sight, he couldn't keep up the facade anymore. 565 00:38:35,670 --> 00:38:39,509 Everyone was talking about it, non -business networks were talking about 566 00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:41,750 the stuff that this company was doing. 567 00:38:42,130 --> 00:38:46,069 WeWork's much -anticipated IPO filing last week, raising... It just doesn't 568 00:38:46,070 --> 00:38:50,929 any sense to me. The WeWork of state parties, it is just in absolute collapse 569 00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:56,130 right now. One month later, the Wall Street Journal drops a story that 570 00:38:56,490 --> 00:39:00,030 Adam Neumann was flying high, literally. 571 00:39:00,490 --> 00:39:04,170 The party gets rolling on a private jet to Israel with friends. 572 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:10,560 And then when they land in Israel, they take this huge, huge handful of pot. 573 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:15,939 They stick it in a cereal box, right, to try and hide it. When the crew finds 574 00:39:15,940 --> 00:39:20,860 it, the plane is grounded, forcing Newman to find another way back to New 575 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,559 You know, it was a potential felony to transport drugs on an international 576 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:30,239 flight. I remember someone called me. They're like, he won't, now that this 577 00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,180 article's out, he's not going to be CEO in 48 hours. 578 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,219 But getting rid of Adam Neumann won't be easy. His shares have ten times the 579 00:39:39,220 --> 00:39:42,820 votes of everyone else. The board will have to pay him to leave. 580 00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:50,659 Masayoshi's son, SoftBank, agrees to buy $1 billion worth of Neumann stock, plus 581 00:39:50,660 --> 00:39:53,700 a $185 million consulting fee. 582 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:00,779 The IPO is placed on hold, and more than 2 ,000 WeWork employees lose their 583 00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:01,830 jobs. 584 00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:07,079 For some former employees, Newman's billion -dollar golden parachute feels 585 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,440 a punch to the gut. 586 00:40:09,060 --> 00:40:13,659 For driving his company into the ground, Adam Newman is getting a massive 587 00:40:13,660 --> 00:40:18,720 payout. $1 .7 billion while his workers are getting laid off. That hurts. 588 00:40:19,060 --> 00:40:24,619 Yeah. This world keeps giving opportunity to people who have been 589 00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:26,120 deserve another opportunity. 590 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,780 And that part's really... 591 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,659 especially being a woman watching so many men get these passes that others 592 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:38,019 get. No one else in the world gets passes the way CEOs get passes for bad 593 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:42,859 behavior. All of this would not be possible without all of you. So I just 594 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:44,700 to say thank you so much. 595 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:52,879 Adam and Rebecca Newman, SoftBank and Masayoshi Son and Benchmark Capital 596 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,480 Partners all declined to speak with American Green. 597 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,800 None of the actions described in this story are alleged to be crimes. 598 00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:08,659 SoftBank, as of the original air date of this program, is underwater with its 599 00:41:08,660 --> 00:41:11,420 investment in WeWork, having lost billions. 600 00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:15,340 I'm part of the responsibility of his mistake. 601 00:41:15,740 --> 00:41:22,479 So I still love him. I still respect him. I'm sure he would come back and 602 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,340 do some great stuff. 603 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:31,809 Benchmark Capital has no apologies, just profits. They pocket $300 million from 604 00:41:31,810 --> 00:41:33,070 their WeWork investment. 605 00:41:33,610 --> 00:41:38,989 This system completely broke down. The guy who drove this company into the 606 00:41:38,990 --> 00:41:43,290 ground, he has walked away rich beyond belief. 607 00:41:43,590 --> 00:41:47,830 The people who empowered him, they made money. They're doing just fine. 608 00:41:48,690 --> 00:41:54,990 Luckily, we have some other hit. So in total score, we are still positive. 609 00:41:56,270 --> 00:42:00,489 The people who got punished are the employees of WeWork, people who just 610 00:42:00,490 --> 00:42:02,170 up trying to do their job every day. 611 00:42:02,390 --> 00:42:06,669 My biggest sympathies are for the younger people because I will tell you, 612 00:42:06,670 --> 00:42:07,720 work hard. 613 00:42:08,150 --> 00:42:11,789 If you were one of the first people at WeWork, you expected to be a 614 00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:15,570 gazillionaire, right? And now you're basically, you got nothing. 615 00:42:16,230 --> 00:42:21,850 On October 21st, 2021, two years after his initial plan for an IPO, 616 00:42:22,410 --> 00:42:24,370 WeWork goes public. 617 00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:31,490 Newman still owns 11 % of the company. 618 00:42:32,370 --> 00:42:37,449 The Newmans have sold much of their New York and California real estate, but 619 00:42:37,450 --> 00:42:41,490 have recently purchased a $40 million compound in Miami Beach. 620 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:46,830 Adam Neumann says he is actively plotting his next business. 621 00:42:47,210 --> 00:42:50,690 Anyone who's known him says there will be a second act. 622 00:42:50,970 --> 00:42:54,989 The predictions of people who have known him over the years is the second act 623 00:42:54,990 --> 00:42:56,490 will be crazier than the first. 624 00:42:56,500 --> 00:43:01,050 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 59978

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