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In this episode of American Greed...
That woman had a gift. She had some sort
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voodoo magic over these men.
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What Nanette Johnston wants, Nanette
Johnston gets.
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And her sorcery has one aim.
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Turning sex into money.
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She was a gold digger. It was obvious.
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And he went for that? How smart is that?
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She steals multi -millionaire Bill
McLaughlin's heart. Then she steals his
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fortune.
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But when he becomes suspicious of her
spending, this femme fatale's options
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deadly. He must die or the money dries
up. Nanette needs to find somebody
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enough, violent enough, and mean enough
that she can manipulate him to commit a
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murder. Enter former NFL linebacker Eric
Naposki.
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But after nearly 15 years, no one is
arrested for Bill McLaughlin's murder.
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And many wondered if anyone ever will
be. You can stay on my head for my whole
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entire life and we will grow old
together. You will die and I will stay
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But you will never, ever, ever find any
reason to think that I had any motive to
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kill someone.
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She is a killer.
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That woman is responsible for the murder
of Bill McLaughlin.
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That woman is 46 -year -old Nanette
Johnston. And in January 2012, she
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trial for the murder of her former
fiancé.
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The couple is together for nearly three
years when Bill McLaughlin is gunned
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down at his Newport beach home on
December 15, 1994.
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The minute his heart stops beating,
there is one obvious suspect.
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At 9, 10, and one second, Lynette
Johnston became a millionaire.
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By now, Johnston has already been
convicted in the court of law for
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half a million dollars from McLaughlin
and convicted in the court of public
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opinion for being a greedy girlfriend.
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But her defense wants to ask the jury
one last question.
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Hate her as much as you want for being a
thief, a liar.
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She's lost, whatever you want to call
her.
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Can you call her a murderer?
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I guess, if truth be told, she just had
some very appealing attributes that she
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used very well.
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She distracts you over here with her
beauty, her looks, her body.
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And meanwhile, she's got a whole other
agenda, and that's in full swing.
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Before Nanette Johnston ever meets Bill
McLaughlin, she sharpens her
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manipulative skills on Tom Reynolds in
1990 while he works the door of a
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nightclub in Orange County, California.
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We basically met. Things hit off rather
well.
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She came back to my place, which was
down in Newport. And before I knew it,
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had moved in.
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It was not pre -designed.
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Looking back, I kind of wonder how it
happened.
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Johnston essentially moves in
immediately, and Reynolds quickly
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a taste for the finer things at his
expense.
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She was very focused on money and where
it was coming from and how much was
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around. We went out and got all new
furniture. It was redecorated, you know,
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to bottom. New couch, new bed, new TV.
Everything was done in whitewash from
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upstairs to downstairs.
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She had a gift. She, that woman, had a
gift.
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Orange County Deputy District Attorney
Matt Murphy says that engulfing men in
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sex, lies, and vagaries is standard
operating procedure for Nanette
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This is what she does. She meets men,
she manipulates them, and she destroys
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their lives.
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Everybody's got a talent.
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That's her talent.
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And one day, Reynolds realizes he isn't
the first to fall prey to Johnston's
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talents. An ex -boyfriend came by at one
point. I found him lurking, literally
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stalking, walking back and forth in
front of the house, and he was trying to
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track her down.
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She had deceived him in some way. You
know, they had been involved, and she
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gotten money from him, and when she had
done that, the relationship he thought
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existed did not.
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It seems to be a pattern with Nanette
Johnston.
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You start thinking about how did this
whole situation come about because there
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really was no planning, wasn't any
formality to it. It was just here I was
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the middle of it, which is pretty much
as he had described it.
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He said all of a sudden he looked around
and things were gone, money was gone,
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and she was gone.
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And I'm like, well.
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Everything so far, but not the gun part,
and that really started making me
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wonder.
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Perhaps this relationship isn't all
sunshine and roses.
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I found a lockbox, and that lockbox had
a canceled check.
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That canceled check was made out to a
magazine that we don't have a
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subscription. I looked up what magazine
it was, and it was a hookup magazine.
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So I just went by the dates, found that
issue, and lo and behold, it's in bull
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print.
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Wealthy men only.
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Single white female.
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Classy, well -educated, adventurous.
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Fun.
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Looking for an older man who knows how
to treat a woman.
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You take care of me, and I'll take care
of you.
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You know, here I am looking at this and
knowing she's living in my home. I'm
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like, well, if you're going to be
wanting those wealthy men, I don't think
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there's enough room in here or time for
you to leave.
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In a short period of time, Johnston
finds her next mark,
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Bill McLaughlin.
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My wife today, you know, she jokes, good
thing you weren't making more money
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than you were because that could have
been you.
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Whether Bill answered that ad or whether
they met in one of these other ways,
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nobody really knows.
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All we know for sure is that McLaughlin
had been married for about 30 years to a
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very, very nice woman. He had three
beautiful, super sweet kids. And when he
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got divorced, he basically met the worst
woman in Orange County.
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Apparently, that's not how he sees it.
He called me and he said, oh, he met
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really beautiful young.
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You know, she has a couple of kids, but
she has a Ph .D.
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And I think I messed up. She must be a
genius.
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Barbara LaSpisa grows up with her cousin
Bill McLaughlin near Chicago, where she
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says his family learns the value of a
dollar.
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His parents were known to be very frugal
in our family.
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It was rather funny because if you went
to their house to eat, as my father
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would say, you better eat first before
you went there.
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McLaughlin may not have money, but he
has ambition.
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He wanted to be a millionaire by 30.
That's what he would tell me, and I'd
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of laugh.
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Yeah, so would I.
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We all do.
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But he was focused, and somehow he was
going to get there.
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After high school, McLaughlin enlists in
the Marines and is stationed at Camp
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Pendleton in Southern California.
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When his duty ends, he enrolls in what
is now Loyola Marymount University.
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Bill was the first one to go to college,
and he couldn't afford that. The
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parents couldn't afford it.
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Determined to succeed, McLaughlin
enrolls in a student worker program to
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his education on his own, graduating
with a degree in biology in 1964.
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In 1966, he marries and soon has three
kids, two daughters and a son.
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And in the 80s, his promise to his
cousin finally comes true.
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His business partner invents a
groundbreaking medical device that makes
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millionaires dozens of times over.
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They invented a centrifuge that would
separate plasma from blood.
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It's still being used today, and it is
incredibly lucrative.
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After his divorce in 1990, family friend
Sandy Baumgartner says there was a
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vacuum in McLaughlin's life.
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And she sees how the 52 -year -old fills
the void at a Christmas party in 1991.
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Bill and Nanette walked in, and she was
a great deal younger, and I managed to
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glean through conversation that she and
I were, in fact, the same age, three
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weeks apart, and I was 26 years old at
the time.
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For a 26 -year -old, Johnston seems to
have an impressive resume.
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She tells Baumgardner she earned a Ph
.D. from Arizona State and once owned
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own business.
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But something about Johnston doesn't
feel right.
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She was talking about all this education
and such, and as I was doing the math,
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something wasn't ringing true with the
list of accomplishments and the resume,
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if you will, that she was rattling off
to me.
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Nevertheless, when Bob Gardner sees
Johnston again two years later,
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and Johnston are still together, and she
sees a transformed Nanette Johnston.
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It looked like she had a little facial
surgery and she had some breast
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augmentation done.
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McLaughlin's family, particularly his
daughters Kim and Jenny, are not
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impressed. Kim sat Bill down one time
and said, look, I think she's after you
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for your money.
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And, you know, he said, well, thank you
very much for your input. But, you know,
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I think he took the stance of duly
noted.
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Johnston moves into McLaughlin's house,
converting guest bedrooms into bedrooms
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for her two children from a previous
marriage.
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McLaughlin treats them as his own. And
before long, it appears he's going to
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make it official.
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In 93, he came to me and asked me my
thoughts about him getting married.
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Brian Ringler has been McLaughlin's
accountant since the mid -80s. And
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McLaughlin tells him he wants Johnston
to be a permanent part of his life.
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And he said his concern was that he
would be able to provide for her should
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something happen to him. And so we had
discussed some various options, and one
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of the things that he ended up doing was
getting a life insurance policy.
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The insurance policy is for a million
dollars, naming Johnston as the sole
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beneficiary.
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And it comes just in time.
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Within a year of getting the policy,
shots ring out in Newport Beach.
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Bill McLaughlin is dead.
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But who in Bill McLaughlin's world could
be capable of such calculated deceit?
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Any idea at all who would want to harm
him?
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I wish I had something to tell you. I
wish I knew.
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I don't know.
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I can't think of anybody.
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When American Greed returned, Nanette
Johnston claims to have an alibi for the
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night of the murder.
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But could she have tricked yet another
man to do her bidding? I think Naposki
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was definitely duped by Nanette. She
went after men who could give her
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something.
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Newport Beach, emergency, please fire.
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Three years before Bill McLaughlin's
murder, his son Kevin is involved in a
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accident that leaves him with mental
trauma that affects his speech and motor
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skills.
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He comes down the stairs and finds his
father dying on the kitchen floor. And
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calls 911, and it is this heart
-wrenching 911 call.
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I can't understand what you're saying.
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He's trying to... tell the 911 operator
what happened, and because of his brain
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damage that he suffered as a result of
the accident, she can't understand what
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he's saying, and you can hear the
frustration in his voice.
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Are you hurt?
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Okay,
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we have an officer on the way to your
house right now.
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The investigators get there probably
about 9 .15.
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They walk in, and there's poor Kevin
distraught.
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And to the right on the kitchen floor is
Bill McLaughlin on his back, having
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been shot six times.
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The only thing that they could see that
happened in the house was the shooting.
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There was really nothing except the
murder that seemed to be the point of
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incident.
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As usual in a murder investigation, the
spouse or significant other is an
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immediate person of interest.
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But when she's questioned...
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Nanette Johnston seems to have an alibi.
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So what she says is, I was at my son's
soccer game.
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I went in a triple overtime, and then I
went to go buy Christmas presents.
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The kids were going to come home with
me, but it was so late.
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It was like already 8 .30 when the game
ended, and my ex was right around the
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corner from the field.
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So he took them home instead because
they were going to have to go to bed in
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minutes.
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Then I went over to South Coast Plaza,
Christmas shop for a few things.
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She produces a receipt from Crate and
Barrel with a time stamp that seems to
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corroborate her story.
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So if Johnston wasn't at the house, who
was?
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Larry Montgomery is an investigator with
the Orange County District Attorney's
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Office, and he says that investigators
on the scene immediately find important
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clues about who may have pulled the
trigger.
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Keys were used. One was for the gate to
get into the actual complex.
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And the other one was the one that was
stuck in the door itself to open the
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house. So obviously right there, there's
a big clue.
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Who has access to keys that could get
into the complex and the front door of
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this gentleman's house? You start out
with the population of the earth, and
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can immediately eliminate everybody
based on, well, essentially three
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Somebody that's in the area, somebody
that has a motive to kill Bill
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and somebody that has access to these
keys.
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When Sandy Baumgardner arrives at the
scene the next day, a thought
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occurs to her.
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Besides access to the keys, this killer
must have inside information.
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I said, whoever did this had intimate
knowledge of his schedule because he
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wasn't even supposed to be in town.
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Only family members and a housekeeper
have access to keys and might know
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McLaughlin's schedule.
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But none are near the house at the time
of the murder except for Kevin.
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But a gunshot residue test shows that he
didn't fire a gun that night.
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And his condition makes it extremely
unlikely he could have pulled off a
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with such precision.
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Once again, all eyes are on one person.
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But no one has an explanation for how
she could be in two places at once.
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But maybe she doesn't have to be.
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As she repeatedly described, I was at my
son's game. I watched my son's game.
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They lost in the championship.
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I was sad, whatever.
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It turns out it wasn't an I, it was a
we.
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She was with her boyfriend, Eric
Naposki.
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When American Greed returned, who is
this 6 '2", 230 -pound specimen?
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And what use could the ex -football
player be to Nanette Johnston? Nanette
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to find somebody stupid enough, violent
enough, and mean enough that she can
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manipulate him to commit a murder.
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I met Eric at the pool at the apartment
complex where I live.
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Suzanne Coger meets Eric Naposki in
1994.
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The 6 '2", 230 -pound athlete has played
linebacker for the New England Patriots
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and Dallas Cowboys, among other teams in
other leagues.
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But injuries cut his career short.
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He's tried his hand at both acting and
personal training.
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But when Coker meets him, he's working
security for various nightclubs in the
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Orange County area.
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She also sees a woman visiting him
regularly.
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At first, Naposki says she's just a
friend, but eventually he comes clean.
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He came over and finally admitted that
she was his girlfriend and how he was in
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love with her.
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And he also explained her living
arrangement and said that she had been
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with a man who was her business partner.
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I wasn't sure if he was just trying to
make me believe that or if he really was
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that dumb to not believe that she was
truly living, living with this man.
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And he said, oh, no, no, it's just a
business arrangement.
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They're business partners.
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And I said, oh, my gosh, boy, wow,
really?
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Is that what you believe?
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Oh, he certainly believed it.
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Angelo McDonald is Naposki's attorney.
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According to him, Nanette Johnston tells
Naposki that she is a successful
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businesswoman. She had all the trappings
of it. The nice car, the fine clothes,
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the jewelry, the lifestyle.
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She had everything.
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The couple takes multiple vacations and
cruises. And Naposki believes it's all
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paid for by Nanette's successful
business dealings. And in a twisted way,
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After McLaughlin's murder, his
accountant, Brian Ringler, examines the
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Johnston is keeping and discovers that
she's been skimming cash for months.
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Here's a check to Nanette on October
25th. The check amount was actually $5
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,000. It shows $1 ,000 on what Bill
would get as a printout.
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In McLaughlin's ledger, Johnston records
relatively minor payments made to her
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and other entities.
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But in reality, she's writing bigger and
bigger checks to herself.
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So you see this dramatic increase in
thefts from McLaughlin right as she is
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spending more and more time with
Leposki.
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They go to Jamaica, she steals $20 ,000.
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They go to, you know, meet his family,
and it's $30 ,000.
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They go to her sister's wedding, and the
thefts are off the charts.
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The most brazen theft?
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A $250 ,000 check dated the day before
McLaughlin's murder. The signature on
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check forged by Nanette Johnston.
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Brian Ringler believes that Johnston
eventually embezzles approximately $500
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,000 from McLaughlin, and it's not
something she can expect to hide for
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You can steal $5 ,000 and get away with
it from somebody that has as much money
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as Bill McLaughlin. You might even be
able to steal $20 ,000 and get away with
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it. You can't steal $250 ,000 and not
have an accountant ask where that money
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going. And she is a genuinely bad
person. So she's going to get caught.
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soon as he finds out that she's stealing
or that she's sleeping with some other
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dude, she's out the door.
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So he must die before the money dries
up.
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And according to Murphy, she has set up
the patsy to make it happen. To an
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extent, you can almost feel sorry for
the guy. He's not that bright. He's a
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failed athlete.
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And Nanette needs to find somebody
stupid enough and violent enough and
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enough that she can manipulate him to
commit a murder.
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Johnston allegedly tells Naposki that
McLaughlin has been making unwanted
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advances, sneaking into her bedroom at
night. When Naposki tells his neighbor
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Suzanne Cogar about it, she says his
testosterone is boiling over.
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He seemed jealous and somewhat enraged.
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And then he proceeded to tell me that
Bill owned his own plane, and then he
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blurted out, I'm going to have his plane
blown up.
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Weeks later, Bill McLaughlin is dead.
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And Nanette Johnson doesn't seem like a
woman in mourning.
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She's more like someone with reasons to
celebrate.
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There was an insurance policy that was
worth $1 million to her.
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In the will, there was $150 ,000 given
to her.
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She gets to keep all the money that
she's stolen, which is somewhere in the
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neighborhood of maybe just shy of half a
million dollars.
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She gets to live in the beach house rent
-free for one year. She gets titled to
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convertible Lexus that he bought for
her. So just on the surface, she stands
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make about a million dollars.
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But as the trustee, she's going to be
able to steal another million, two
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out of his estate.
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This is not only a gold digger.
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It's a gold digger with a black heart.
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When American Greed returns, law
enforcement zeroes in on Nanette
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she won't go down willingly.
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You can't catch up to me because I
didn't do anything.
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You can't catch up to somebody who
didn't do anything without making
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up. Okay?
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Because I didn't do anything.
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Eight days after Bill McLaughlin's
murder, Newport Beach police bring
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Johnston's lover, Eric Naposki, in for
questioning.
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Am I in trouble for something?
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I hope not.
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I hope not, too, because I don't
understand.
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He's very aggressive and very compelling
in the way he defends himself. He's
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very forceful in his denials, but the
problem is that he talks too much.
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Describe your relationship with Nanette.
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Well, he'd actually proposed to her.
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So, you know, fiancé versus friend, you
know, when you're immediately lying
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about the nature of the relationship,
that's a huge red flag.
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They also asked him if he owned any
firearms.
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But less than 20 minutes later... The
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problem
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with Eric Naposki is that every time he
talks, it's a different story.
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It makes investigators suspicious.
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But Naposki leaves the interview without
further incident.
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And if the attention scares him in
Johnston...
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They aren't acting like it.
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Larry Montgomery put it very well once.
He said, these are not chess players.
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People that do this sort of thing, they
roll the dice.
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They're not thinking three or four moves
ahead.
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They went through all this so that they
could get the money, and they can't wait
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to go and spend it.
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He moves out of his crappy little
apartment and into a beach house in
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Beach. He's driving around in Bill
McLaughlin's convertible Cadillac. He
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a friggin' shopping trip with her. We're
there at South Coast Plaza buying
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everything in sight.
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All on Bill Stein.
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But if Naposki dreams of driving the
Cadillac off into the sunset, Nanette
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not be riding shotgun.
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The problem is, is I don't think Nanette
has any desire to be with Naposki for
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any length of time, but needed him for
what she needed him for.
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And now that that's over, things were
starting to deteriorate.
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You love this guy? You love Eric?
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I don't know that I would say love. I'd
say I care about him a lot. I care about
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him as a person.
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I mean... Do you want to marry him?
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No, I don't want to get married.
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The investigators believe that Nanette
masterfully manipulates Eric's emotions.
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They bring him in for questioning one
more time to see if they too can play
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manipulation game.
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Maybe a revelation about the true nature
of her relationship with McLaughlin can
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get Naposki to turn on her.
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She's told us that she was engaged to
Bill.
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That's what she told you? She has told
us that. In an interview when she knew
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that we were tape recording.
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She said that she was engaged to Bill.
That's interesting.
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But even with knowledge of the betrayal
and perhaps a new perspective on the
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future of their relationship, Naposki
won't break.
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I have to look out for Eric. I don't
want Nanette to be dragged into anything
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that she didn't do either.
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But once again, Naposki can't stick to
his own script.
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But when they confront him later in a
subsequent interview, they say, hey,
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you don't have an alibi. He says, well,
let me think about that night.
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Actually, I said I went straight to
work, but I didn't. What I did is I went
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home and then I went to see some friends
of mine and I got a page and I made a
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phone call from a Denny's. And that
Denny's phone call has to be my, you
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couldn't possibly have gotten there.
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Another startling revelation in the
second interview.
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A gun Naposki forgot to mention.
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Where is your 9mm?
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I have no idea. You have no idea. That's
my statement.
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It's the same caliber gun used to kill
Bill McLaughlin.
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But Naposki seems to believe he's always
one step ahead. You can stay on my head
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for my whole entire life.
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And we will grow old together. You will
die and I will stay alive.
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But you will never ever.
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ever find any reason to think that I had
any motive to kill a student.
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It's not only with law enforcement that
Naposki can't keep his mouth shut.
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Around the same time he's being
questioned, he pays Suzanne Colbert
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visit. He asked if I'd seen any cops
around.
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And I said, why, what's going on? And
he, why would there be cops here? And he
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said, well, you know that guy, Bill, he
was killed, he was murdered.
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It sends a chill down Cougar's spine.
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I said to him, I don't even want to know
if you did it or not.
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And he said, oh, I didn't do it.
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But I might have had someone do it.
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I was just shell -shocked. I couldn't
believe what was coming out of his
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Who would say something like that?
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I said again, I don't even want to know
if you did it or not. And he said, maybe
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I did and maybe I didn't.
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And he just smirked.
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It's a conversation Cougar is initially
hesitant to pass along.
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He was only like six foot something and,
you know, as broad as a doorway looming
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over me.
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He was very daunting to have standing
right in front of you and tell you about
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murder that had just happened and me
standing there knowing that he was
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responsible for it.
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So I gave it a little time to make sure
he was kind of leaving me alone before I
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made a phone call to the police.
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On that call, she's disappointed when
the detective says her story will have
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little impact.
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He said, well, thanks, but this isn't
enough to make an arrest or anything.
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And I thought, wow, that tells you what
I know about the justice system because
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I would have thought that it was pretty
incriminating.
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Despite police and prosecutors believing
they have the murder conspirators in
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their sights, the case has limitations.
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There are no unexpected fingerprints at
the scene, nor DNA.
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There are no shoe prints outside the
house, no eyewitnesses, and the murder
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weapon is never found.
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You have to be able to have enough for
the prosecutor to believe that they can
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prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt
before they can file charges.
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It's an opinion that each prosecutor has
to decide upon.
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And in this case, the district
attorney's office decides not to bring
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charges.
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But Johnston doesn't get away with
everything.
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In 1996, she is convicted for the theft
of approximately $500 ,000 from
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McLaughlin and is sentenced to one year
in jail.
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But remarkably, she is still the
beneficiary of McLaughlin's life
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policy.
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After taking out what is owed to them
from Johnston's theft, the McLaughlin
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children are left with the unpalatable
duty of paying Johnston $220 ,000.
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Not a bad nest egg to start a new life.
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When American Greed Returns. Nanette
Johnston may have stolen a new
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but the Orange County District
Attorney's Office is starting over, too.
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First day, when I came into the home
studio, she said, When you get your
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bearings, you've got to take a look at
the foam and gloffing case.
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She thought it was solvable, and she was
right.
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But in 2002, when Matt Murphy joins the
District Attorney's Homicide Unit, he
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00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,620
directs his investigators to solve the
case once and for all.
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00:31:29,940 --> 00:31:34,999
I was asked by the DA and the Newport
Police Department to look at the case
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00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,899
whatever experience I have to see if I
can find anything that maybe they didn't
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00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:40,950
find.
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00:31:41,070 --> 00:31:45,689
The district attorney's office looks
into minute detail of everything Naposki
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00:31:45,690 --> 00:31:47,130
and Johnston say and do.
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00:31:47,490 --> 00:31:50,090
And they see a lot of suspicious
behavior.
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00:31:51,650 --> 00:31:56,829
In the fall, a few months before the
murder, Johnston and Naposki appear to
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00:31:56,830 --> 00:31:58,430
looking for a new love nest.
460
00:31:58,910 --> 00:32:01,630
They're house hunting in a place called
Turtle Rock.
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00:32:02,070 --> 00:32:04,390
Picture Beverly Hills with newer houses.
462
00:32:04,391 --> 00:32:07,089
You know, these are multi -million
dollar homes.
463
00:32:07,090 --> 00:32:08,730
Eric is a bouncer.
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00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,839
And Nanette has no income outside of
Bill McLaughlin. So how this is going to
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00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,639
happen without her knowing at the time
that Bill McLaughlin is going to die,
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00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,820
it's impossible.
467
00:32:20,740 --> 00:32:26,299
Johnston also tells a software
entrepreneur she may be interested in
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00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,500
in his company, but not until 1995.
469
00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:33,459
She was saying that she was thinking
that after the first of the year, she
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00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:36,460
have $100 ,000, maybe $200 ,000 to
invest in his company.
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00:32:36,461 --> 00:32:41,829
She knows Bill McLaughlin's going to be
dead. That's the only way that she can
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00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:45,749
come in. And if you know somebody's
going to die, before they die, it's
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00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:48,760
not going to be a bolt of lightning
that's going to kill them.
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00:32:50,170 --> 00:32:54,669
More than a decade after the murder,
investigator Larry Montgomery and Deputy
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00:32:54,670 --> 00:32:59,189
District Attorney Matt Murphy begin to
piece together Naposki and Johnston's
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00:32:59,190 --> 00:33:04,790
actions the night of December 15, 1994,
after her kid's soccer game.
477
00:33:05,050 --> 00:33:06,910
They drive directly to Newport Beach.
478
00:33:06,911 --> 00:33:11,179
She dropped Eric Naposki off somewhere
in the vicinity of the murder scene.
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00:33:11,180 --> 00:33:15,759
Back in 1994, there was a staircase that
came right down to about where my feet
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00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,819
are, and there was a place you could
pull out. We think that Annette probably
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00:33:19,820 --> 00:33:23,719
dropped Naposki off at that location so
he could walk straight down here to
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00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,679
where I'm standing.
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00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,300
And right in front of me, this was a
chain -link fence, and there was a gate.
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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,240
He enters the pedestrian gate.
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00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,760
He enters the front door with the key
that gets stuck in the lock.
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00:33:35,420 --> 00:33:38,670
So as he's fumbling for that, he drops
the pedestrian access key.
487
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,439
So Naposki walks in, pulls the gun out,
shoots Bill McLaughlin in three two
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00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,820
-shot bursts. Boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom, boom.
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00:33:49,260 --> 00:33:50,340
McLaughlin goes down.
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00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,150
Mr. McLaughlin lived directly over this
direction.
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00:33:53,380 --> 00:33:58,019
We think Mr. Naposki came right through
here and immediately went up to the road
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00:33:58,020 --> 00:34:01,080
and then head directly over the bridge.
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00:34:01,850 --> 00:34:05,280
to where he worked, which is a building
over here with a black awning.
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00:34:06,990 --> 00:34:12,448
If this scenario is true, Naposki and
Johnston have been operating on borrowed
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00:34:12,449 --> 00:34:14,449
time for nearly 15 years.
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00:34:14,929 --> 00:34:17,469
And Johnston gets back toward her old
tricks.
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00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:22,870
She marries one multimillionaire in 1998
with whom she has two more kids.
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00:34:23,590 --> 00:34:28,968
When that relationship falls apart, she
marries another and is as wealthy as
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00:34:28,969 --> 00:34:31,030
ever. That woman had a gift.
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00:34:31,031 --> 00:34:34,649
She didn't murder anybody else that we
know about, but she would charm these
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00:34:34,650 --> 00:34:38,830
guys, and she had some sort of voodoo
magic over these men.
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00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:44,908
Naposki has two kids from a short -lived
marriage and eventually moves to
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00:34:44,909 --> 00:34:47,799
Greenwich, Connecticut, working as a
personal trainer.
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00:34:48,509 --> 00:34:54,129
His sister, Angela, is convinced of
Naposki's innocence and says that
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00:34:54,130 --> 00:34:58,809
the difficult times being suspected by
the police, Naposki is able to put it
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00:34:58,810 --> 00:35:01,950
behind him and continue with the life he
deserves.
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00:35:02,450 --> 00:35:06,180
It took a little while for that to fade
out and for life to get back to normal.
508
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:10,149
It wasn't a fun thing to go through, but
it didn't, we all thought it was over
509
00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:11,830
and behind us. Let's put it that way.
510
00:35:12,530 --> 00:35:14,610
But it's not behind them.
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00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:25,210
When American Greed returns, Naposki and
Johnston move on without each other.
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00:35:25,330 --> 00:35:27,550
But their paths will cross again.
513
00:35:27,950 --> 00:35:33,249
Former NFL linebacker Eric Naposki and
his ex -lover Nanette Packard have been
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00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:36,080
charged with the murder of William
Francis McLaughlin.
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00:35:49,290 --> 00:35:55,049
On May 20, 2009, Eric Naposki and
Annette Johnston are arrested in
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00:35:55,050 --> 00:35:57,970
stings on opposite sides of the country.
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00:35:59,750 --> 00:36:02,390
The trials are split into two.
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00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:04,230
Naposki's is first.
519
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:11,609
The defense will prove that Eric Naposki
did not commit and could not logically
520
00:36:11,610 --> 00:36:17,269
and reasonably have committed this crime
because he was somewhere else at the
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00:36:17,270 --> 00:36:18,320
time of the murder.
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00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:23,319
The defense centers around Naposki's
story that after the soccer game on
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00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:29,979
December 15, 1994, he made a phone call
from a Denny's at 8 .52 p .m., and it
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00:36:29,980 --> 00:36:35,199
would have been impossible for him to
get to the murder scene by 9 .10. But 15
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00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,179
years after the murder, the defense is
severely challenged to prove it. You
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00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:45,379
can't wait for years and years and then
put a defendant in a position where he
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00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:46,840
can't establish his defense.
528
00:36:46,841 --> 00:36:50,809
Back then, he had lots of people where
he could say, I was with these people
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00:36:50,810 --> 00:36:54,550
that people. And literally, 15 years
later, some of these people are dead.
530
00:36:54,750 --> 00:36:57,160
They're missing. They don't remember
anything.
531
00:36:57,310 --> 00:37:02,749
You can't find them because of that time
difference. It's so difficult to
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00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:06,750
actually make your alibi defense what
it's supposed to be.
533
00:37:07,070 --> 00:37:08,750
I think in this case, it was unfair.
534
00:37:10,670 --> 00:37:16,259
Even if Naposki did make that call at 8
.52, The prosecution argues that he
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00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:19,940
still had time to get to McLaughlin's
house to commit the murder.
536
00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:24,800
If you hung up that phone, got in your
car, and drove straight to that bridge,
537
00:37:25,020 --> 00:37:30,460
it's virtually the exact time that you
would arrive, and we drove it many
538
00:37:30,740 --> 00:37:37,240
You can't prove someone guilty of murder
based on suspicion, innuendo, surmises,
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00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:40,480
guesses, beliefs, feelings.
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00:37:41,230 --> 00:37:45,749
The defense points out that the case is
almost entirely circumstantial. The only
541
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:50,129
physical evidence from the crime scene
are the bullets and shell casings. But
542
00:37:50,130 --> 00:37:51,790
the gun is never found.
543
00:37:52,270 --> 00:37:58,629
There were two, three million 9mm
Berettas out in circulation at the time.
544
00:37:58,630 --> 00:38:02,530
that doesn't necessarily mean a whole
lot to me in terms of reasonable doubt.
545
00:38:03,410 --> 00:38:04,810
There were no fingerprints.
546
00:38:05,070 --> 00:38:06,490
There was no DNA.
547
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:09,530
There was no video. There was no
admissions.
548
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,000
There were no eyewitnesses, footprints,
bits of clothing, fiber evidence.
549
00:38:15,420 --> 00:38:17,340
None of that existed in that case.
550
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,039
We don't have a picture of him there. We
don't have any witnesses that saw a big
551
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:28,339
guy at that location. However, we have a
whole ton of evidence that the person
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00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:33,319
or persons who were involved in doing
this had access to keys, and it's a gun
553
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,840
that he had, and it's a gun that he lied
about where it disappeared to.
554
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:42,139
and then you compound that with the bits
and pieces that are inconsistent with
555
00:38:42,140 --> 00:38:45,999
telling the truth, inconsistent with
innocence, and totally consistent with
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00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,060
you would say if you were guilty, it
becomes overwhelming.
557
00:38:50,140 --> 00:38:54,799
According to Deputy District Attorney
Matt Murphy, the greatest condemnation
558
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,720
comes from the mouth of the accused.
559
00:38:56,721 --> 00:39:01,099
I think the best witness that we had in
this thing was Eric Naposki himself, and
560
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:04,139
the fact that he told a different story
every time he opened his mouth.
561
00:39:04,140 --> 00:39:07,639
And that goes back to the investigation,
the first interview, the second
562
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,519
interview. And we start out with, yeah,
she's a pretty good friend of mine, to,
563
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,140
okay, I asked her to marry me.
564
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:15,100
You know, yeah, I don't have any guns.
565
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,600
To, okay, I had two guns, and one of
them was a 9mm.
566
00:39:20,580 --> 00:39:24,360
Ultimately, the jury doesn't believe
Naposki's shifting stories.
567
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:32,199
On July 14, 2011, Eric Naposki is
convicted of murder and he is sentenced
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00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:33,250
life in prison.
569
00:39:33,530 --> 00:39:38,189
But after the trial, he presents yet
another version of events to the
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00:39:38,190 --> 00:39:39,240
prosecution.
571
00:39:39,710 --> 00:39:44,289
I know I lied about Nanette and I's
relationship, and I know I lied about
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00:39:44,290 --> 00:39:46,820
gun, but now I'm really going to tell
you the truth.
573
00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:49,710
The truth is I knew she wanted to murder
him.
574
00:39:49,950 --> 00:39:54,749
I knew she was trying to find a hitman.
I introduced her to the hitman, but I
575
00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:55,950
had nothing to do with it.
576
00:39:56,190 --> 00:40:01,369
According to his sister, Naposki has a
reason to keep the story to himself for
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00:40:01,370 --> 00:40:02,249
so long.
578
00:40:02,250 --> 00:40:04,660
The guy told him he would kill him and
his family.
579
00:40:04,661 --> 00:40:08,649
I remember him screaming to me on the
phone, you know, from prison. I said,
580
00:40:08,650 --> 00:40:12,009
well, what the hell? Why didn't you say
this? You know, why didn't you tell this
581
00:40:12,010 --> 00:40:14,629
story? He said, did you want to see me
floating down a river?
582
00:40:14,630 --> 00:40:16,190
You know, he was screaming at me.
583
00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:21,449
McDonald claims that the evidence at the
scene, such as access to keys and
584
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:27,509
knowledge of McLaughlin's schedule, only
incriminates Johnston, not Naposki. You
585
00:40:27,510 --> 00:40:31,229
could argue that she could have gotten
anybody to do that. Certainly, the whole
586
00:40:31,230 --> 00:40:38,029
Nanette hires the hitman theory clearly
could have been done with the
587
00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:42,349
same evidence, the same scene,
everything. And the hitman not being
588
00:40:42,350 --> 00:40:43,400
Naposki.
589
00:40:44,070 --> 00:40:49,809
Eventually, Naposki names the alleged
hitman. But law enforcement says they
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00:40:49,810 --> 00:40:52,330
no evidence to support Naposki's story.
591
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:58,589
I went and reinvestigated everything he
told us and blew major holes in almost
592
00:40:58,590 --> 00:41:03,349
everything he told us and then went back
to talk to Naposki, confronted him with
593
00:41:03,350 --> 00:41:09,169
those lies, and he admitted to a number
of those and danced around a few, and we
594
00:41:09,170 --> 00:41:13,150
proved that most of what he told us in
this big second interview were also
595
00:41:13,530 --> 00:41:16,190
So his credibility is just shot.
596
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:22,909
The common denominator in either theory
is Nanette Johnston, and the district
597
00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:27,289
attorney's office has no doubt that she
orchestrates the murder after stealing
598
00:41:27,290 --> 00:41:28,990
hundreds of thousands of dollars.
599
00:41:28,991 --> 00:41:32,349
Now, how is she going to get away with
that if Bill McLaughlin lives?
600
00:41:32,350 --> 00:41:37,310
The defense tries to argue that Naposki
acts on his own in a jealous rage.
601
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:43,049
There was no reason why he had to be
killed that night, except that it was
602
00:41:43,050 --> 00:41:44,310
opportunity Eric needed.
603
00:41:44,410 --> 00:41:46,810
That was the defense he needed to run
because...
604
00:41:47,020 --> 00:41:50,520
Clearly, the jury's going to hate her,
and as they should.
605
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,019
But he didn't want them making a
decision on that type of motion, and of
606
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:56,039
we didn't either.
607
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,800
We wanted them to make their decision
based on the hard facts and the
608
00:41:59,960 --> 00:42:01,460
which is exactly what they did.
609
00:42:02,020 --> 00:42:06,059
We, the jury and the above entitled
action, find the defendant, Nanette Ann
610
00:42:06,060 --> 00:42:10,379
Packard, guilty of the crime of... She
is sentenced to life in prison, and the
611
00:42:10,380 --> 00:42:13,880
people who knew Bill McLaughlin are left
to try to make sense.
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00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:15,680
of a senseless murder.
613
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:21,539
From day one, her intention with Bill
was to get as much money and live a
614
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:25,020
lifestyle, but I don't know at what
point it turned homicidal.
615
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:30,579
I don't know what ails her, what in her
life happened to her that made her this
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00:42:30,580 --> 00:42:31,629
way.
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00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:36,180
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