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- I'm like the star quarterback
on the high school team,
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and then this new kid comes to
the school,
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he's bald--headed,
and he's got an attitude,
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and he's a badass.
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- I'd like to issue a challenge
against one
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Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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- What?
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- They both had this incredible
energy that they were two
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completely different characters.
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- If you put the letter S
in front of Hitman,
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you've had my exact
opinion of Bret Hart.
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- The way this
is being presented,
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it would really -- me off.
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- He had to rise
to that occasion.
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- We'll see who kicks who's ass.
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- If you liked
Holyfield and Tyson,
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you're going to love this.
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- Do I know a whole lot of
wrestling holds?
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Hell no, I don't,
but I'll beat the hell out
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of you till you do say,
"I quit."
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- This is about athleticism,
a hell of a fight.
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- We're talking about
two guys that can make really
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small things mean an awful lot.
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- Austin will not surrender.
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- This guy's going
to die on his hope.
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he ain't going to give up,
he ain't going to give up.
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[crowd cheers]
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- That's where you make
Steve Austin.
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- Without Bret, I don't think
we got Stone Cold.
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[music]
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- This rivalry has just
escalated into a war.
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[crowd cheers]
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- When two legends collide,
their rivalry stays pinned
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in our minds forever.
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This is where we break down
the legendary stories
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behind the greatest rivalries
of all time.
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I'm Freddie Prinze Jr.
and this is WWE Rivals.
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[music]
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Today we're going to discuss
two men at very different points
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in their careers and that is
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin
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and Bret "Hitman" Hart.
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- What an ovation.
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Bret "The Hitman" Hart,
he has done it all,
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and continues to do it all.
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- I feel like Bret Hart
at that time was as
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pure good guy as it gets.
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- Especially, as a Canadian,
I mean, Bret Hart is like,
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"Let's give him
the Walk of Fame.
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Let's make this man
our Prime Minister," he is it.
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You want to talk about the
most famous man in the world?
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I feel like when you look at,
especially, Canadian athletes,
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growing up, it was Bret Hart.
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- Thank you Bret.
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[crowd chanting "We want Bret.
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We want Bret."]
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- Since he was born,
he's been wrestling.
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He knows it all,
he really, really does.
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- He never had a bad match.
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I used to watch him every night.
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We just watched and marvel about
how great a wrestler he was.
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- Man, in the mid-'90s,
Bret was huge.
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I think people liked him because
he was almost like an everyman,
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he wasn't over-the-top gigantic,
but he had
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this confident charisma.
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He's just a cool guy.
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- Unbelievable
technical wrestler,
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but also add credibility.
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- I earned being an
Intercontinental Champion,
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I earned being a
World Wrestling -- Champion.
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- Bret Hart was the man.
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He was the best guy
in the WWE at the time.
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- Bret took an enormous amount
of pride in his performance,
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that was who Bret Hart was.
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- I'm the best there is,
the best there was,
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and the best there ever will be.
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- Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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[applause]
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- Bret Hart stepped up to be
the perfect face of the company.
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- I'm sure a pro wrestler such
as yourself will appreciate all
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the closet space, Hitman.
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- In a lot of ways,
I was in my prime,
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just full of fire,
and just wanted
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to really prove
myself everyday.
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- I looked up to the guy,
and he was lobbying
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for me to come to WWE,
way back in the day.
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- "Stunning" Steve Austin,
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United States
Heavyweight Champion.
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- I remember watching
Steve Austin on TV.
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I remember, and he's actually
a really good wrestler.
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I would like to wrestle
that guy but, of course,
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he was with WCW.
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- I was a very big WWE guy
when I was younger,
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but I'd watched the old
wrestling,
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and then I got to see
Steve in WCW,
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what an incredible in-ring
wrestler, he was.
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- Picked him up,
what's he going to do?
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Whoa.
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- I was like,
"Oh, my goodness,
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this guy's just not a
good wrestler,
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he's a phenomenal wrestler.
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I hope he gets more
opportunities to show that."
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- I actually mentioned
it to Vince, I said,
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"Why don't you try to get
Steve Austin from WCW?"
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It was like somebody, maybe
Vince or somebody,
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he did the call, or it all might
have been a coincidence,
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but they called him
and he showed up.
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I remember, he was like,
"He's in the dressing room."
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I go, "There you are."
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- I'm going to prove how good
"The Ringmaster" is.
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Brought in as "The Ringmaster"
they never had any plans
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for me to be a star.
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This ain't your ring,
this is my ring.
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Yes, this is my ring.
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- "The Ringmaster" was something
that just didn't fit.
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- It was good for someone who
was good, but it wasn't good
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for someone who had greatness
written all over him.
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- I think he started to realize
that "The Ringmaster"
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wasn't the future for him.
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- I've been held back for years
and years and years,
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and this is a chance
of a lifetime, man.
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If you think I'm going
to drop the ball,
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you got another thing coming.
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- Oh, that's cold.
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- No, man, that's Stone Cold.
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- Steve transformed
himself within literally
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a couple of months to
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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- Black boots, black tightd ,
shaved the head, goatee,
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steelyblue eyes and
just talking trash.
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I thought, "Damn it, this guy's
pretty freaking cool."
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- You're a piece of garbage.
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You don't deserve to be in the
same ring with Stone Cold.
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- He was the baddest mug around.
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He had a certain swagger
about him,
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he commanded the presence he
when walked inside a arena.
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- You could just tell he had
that magnetism,
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and it was a good vibe
you were getting.
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He was a guy you can easily
really hate as a bad guy.
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There is nothing going
to hold Steve Austin back.
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- Steve Austin is on a roll.
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Look at the eyes of this guy.
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- After I came up with the
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin thing,
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things started clicking.
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You're looking at the next
King of the Ring, "Stone Cold".
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- "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
was this badass,
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walking to the ring.
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- Austin is cold, calculating,
and very, very focused.
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- King of the Ring at the time
was an annual WWE tradition,
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that was a single
elimination tournament.
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[bell rings]
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[crowd cheers]
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It would see one superstar
usually a breakout star
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have the honor of wearing
the crown in the WWE.
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- One, two, and he's got him.
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[bell rings]
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- King of the Ring,
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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- Talk about your psalms,
talk about John 3:16,
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Austin 3:16 says,
"I just whipped your ass."
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[crowd cheers]
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- The Austin 3:16 promo,
that was the shot in the arm.
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- A light-switching moment for
Steve like,
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"Boom, this is the character."
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- And that's the bottom line
because Stone Cold said so.
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- Stone Cold had just won King
of the Ring and had the famous
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Austin 3:16 quote.
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- The entire business changed
that day in Milwaukee.
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When he said that Austin 3:16
line, the next day we come out,
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there's Austin 3:16
signs everywhere.
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- I mean, the Austin 3:16
shirt was the most popular
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shirt in the world.
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Overnight, it felt like, as soon
they released that shirt,
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that shirt just sold out
like that.
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As a kid during that time
period, of course,
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you're going to get swept up
in the whole excitement.
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- Post King of the Ring,
Austin's on fire-
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- Steve, it's safe to say that
Stone Cold is red hot right now.
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- -but he's not quite there yet,
he needs to get
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to the next level,
and in order to do that,
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he has to wrestle someone
who is already at that level.
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What does Stone Cold do?
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- I'd like to use this chance to
issue and challenge against one,
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Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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- What?
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- He calls out Bret Hart.
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- To be man, you got
to beat the man.
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Bret Hart was the man.
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He felt like he wanted
to test his will.
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He's like, "I feel like I'm the
man right now,
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and who's been calling
themselves, the man,
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that's who I'm going for."
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[crowd cheers]
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- I'm the best there is,
I'm the best there was,
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and I'm the best
there ever will be.
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- We're talking about
Bret Hart, The Hitman,
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one of the greatest
legends of all time.
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- I know exactly
who I'm talking about, son.
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[crowd chanting "We want Bret."]
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- Yes, we want Bret.
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- I took time off after the
Ironman match with Shawn.
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- I've never seen two more
determined individuals.
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- Just training and preparing
and thinking about whether
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or not I want to come back,
and I'm sure I will.
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I think that somewhere
down the line.
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All that time is when Steve's
transformed from The Ringmaster
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and all that to Stone Cold.
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- "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
started calling out Bret Hart
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every single chance that he got.
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- I spit on the life,
the career,
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and the family of
Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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- As soon as Steve started
cutting those promos,
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our fans started using their
imaginations about just how
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good this rivalry could be.
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- Let me make myself clear,
if you put the letter S
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in front of Hitman, you've had
my exact opinion of Bret Hart.
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On the night I cut that promo on
Bret, where I said,
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"If you put the letter S in
front of Hitman,
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you have my
exact opinion of Bret Hart."
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That was something that I
thought of probably
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before I went out there.
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I didn't buzz it by anybody,
because I knew it wasn't going
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to fly if I pitched it to Vince.
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That was something
I came up with,
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because it sounded cool,
and it worked.
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- It resonated because it was so
disrespectful, [chuckles]
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Because everybody's doing the
math in their head.
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They go,
"You just said a really bad
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thing about a really great guy."
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- Man, it's pretty cool.
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I wish it wasn't
saying about Bret.
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- Bret, if you ever do come back
and I hope you do, son,
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somebody's going to
get their ass whipped.
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You know, Bret, you know
that I'm better than you.
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- The fact that he was saying
all these things about me
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the way this is being presented,
it would really -- me off.
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- Mark my word, if Bret Hart
does come back,
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I'll kick the hell out of him.
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When I said the things that I
said, it -- the fans off.
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That's what made it, and it
became personal.
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- No one had gotten that
personal with Bret before.
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He had to rise to that occasion.
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- Bret's been out
of the game for a while.
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Everyone wants to know if Bret's
going to accept this match.
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- Please tell us what's
in the future
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for Bret "The Hitman" Hart?
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By the way, welcome back.
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- The one thing that's been
missing in the World Wrestling
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-- for about the last
five or six months has been me.
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- [laughs]
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[crowd cheers]
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- No doubt about it.
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- Which is why I've decided
to accept the challenge,
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and in the Survivor Series, I
I will face
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"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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[crowd cheers]
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- He's like this brash, up and
newcomer, and just like,
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"Okay, let me show you who
the man is though."
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[laughs]
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- We'll see who kicks whose ass
in Madison Square Garden.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Everybody, are you ready
for the Survivor Series
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tonight on pay-per-view?
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- My first high profile match
was Survivor Series 1996,
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Madison Square Garden
with Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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Everybody talks about the best
there is, the best there was,
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all the other crap.
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The excellence of execution.
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Bret clichés are clichés, and an
ass whipping is an ass whipping,
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and that's exactly what you're
going to get tonight
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at the hands of
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin,
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and that's the bottom line.
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I was feeling really good and
really confident,
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because I had a lot
of steam on me.
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I was getting over as a heel,
and I felt good
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about where I was.
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- This man, "Stone Cold" Steve
Austin could spoil
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the comeback attempt of
Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
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- I do remember thinking,
"Oh, no, this is a
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genuine threat to Bret."
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- It's a real funny feeling
comes over you when they
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hit that guitar shred,
as his music starts,
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it'll send chills down your
spine and give you goosebumps.
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[crowd cheers]
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[Bret Hart's music plays]
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[crowd cheers]
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- "The Hitman" Bret Hart
ready to electrify
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this capacity crowd.
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00:12:52,748 --> 00:12:55,885
- I remember sitting in Madison
Square Garden
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waiting for that match.
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Not only was it Bret Hart's
return to the WWE,
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but it was the biggest match
that "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
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had ever found himself in.
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00:13:08,297 --> 00:13:14,904
- Stone Cold has an opportunity
to make himself a real big name.
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- I liked Bret growing up.
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I'm going to say "liked".
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I liked Bret.
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I respected Bret's abilities,
but I also respected
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Stone Cold's ability.
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- I automatically sided with
Austin, because already
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I was a huge Steve Austin fan.
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I was not a Bret Hart fan.
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Believe it or not.
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00:13:28,284 --> 00:13:29,852
- Steve Austin will say
anything to you.
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You can imagine the worst thing
anyone could say to you,
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that's probably what Stone Cold
is doing to Bret Hart.
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00:13:37,259 --> 00:13:39,161
- Both had this
incredible energy
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00:13:39,295 --> 00:13:43,232
but they were two completely
different characters.
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- If you like
Holyfield and Tyson,
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you're going to love this.
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[music]
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- It was just one of those
classic type wrestling matches,
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00:13:51,474 --> 00:13:53,776
old school style match,
and rip it up.
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- Oh-oh, slugfest
here developing.
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- It takes off.
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Whoa.
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- I'd taken six months off.
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00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:03,519
That was a hard thing
for me to pull off.
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00:14:03,652 --> 00:14:05,955
- How much ring rust does
Bret Hart possess?
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00:14:06,088 --> 00:14:09,225
How long will it take for
Bret to get in that groove?
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00:14:09,358 --> 00:14:10,393
- Oh, no.
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- Austin, the poiny of the
elbow driven into
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the throat of Bret Hart.
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00:14:14,163 --> 00:14:16,632
- Bret had been gone so long,
and I was really primed up
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00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:18,334
because I'd been on the road.
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00:14:18,467 --> 00:14:21,871
I blew him up in that match, and
always something I was proud of.
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00:14:22,004 --> 00:14:24,707
- I know he blew me up, because
I very rarely ever blew up.
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00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,242
He came pretty close.
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00:14:26,375 --> 00:14:28,511
I was getting a little parched
at the end of it,
327
00:14:28,644 --> 00:14:30,880
and that didn't happen very
often.
328
00:14:31,013 --> 00:14:33,415
- I can't believe Bret Hart's
on his feet.
329
00:14:33,549 --> 00:14:35,584
- You just count on your passion
and everything
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00:14:35,718 --> 00:14:38,921
you've learned to carry
you through.
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00:14:39,054 --> 00:14:42,625
When all else fails,
just hit the other guy hard.
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00:14:42,758 --> 00:14:45,361
- -- was on and Bret had
to get on his horse and perform,
333
00:14:45,494 --> 00:14:47,229
and he did, as he always does.
334
00:14:47,363 --> 00:14:50,699
- Look at this, Austin down.
335
00:14:50,833 --> 00:14:51,967
- Both men are fatigued.
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00:14:52,101 --> 00:14:53,102
Both men are hurt.
337
00:14:53,235 --> 00:14:55,271
This is a war.
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00:14:55,404 --> 00:14:58,274
- Ends up with me going for my
old finish as The Ringmaster,
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00:14:58,407 --> 00:15:00,109
the Million Dollar Dream.
340
00:15:00,242 --> 00:15:02,778
- Wait a minute, there's the
Million Dollar Dream.
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00:15:02,912 --> 00:15:04,947
- He goes to the turnbuckle,
kicks.
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00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,582
Over we go, roll up.
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00:15:06,715 --> 00:15:08,484
- One, two.
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00:15:08,617 --> 00:15:10,119
Unbelievable.
345
00:15:10,252 --> 00:15:12,955
- Austin didn't let go of the
Million Dollar Dream
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00:15:13,088 --> 00:15:15,124
and it cost him the victory.
347
00:15:15,257 --> 00:15:18,461
- The Hitman is back.
348
00:15:18,594 --> 00:15:23,465
- Didn't beat me by physicality,
he beat me by outsmarting me.
349
00:15:23,599 --> 00:15:24,700
- Look at Austin,
he's not taking
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00:15:24,834 --> 00:15:27,369
his eyes off of Bret Hart.
351
00:15:27,503 --> 00:15:31,207
This rivalry between Bret Hart
and Stone Cold is far,
352
00:15:31,340 --> 00:15:33,409
far from over.
353
00:15:33,542 --> 00:15:36,212
- That particular match really
elevated Stone Cold.
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00:15:36,345 --> 00:15:38,581
This puts "Stone Cold" Steve
Austin right on the same
355
00:15:38,714 --> 00:15:41,283
level as Bret "The Hitman" Hart.
356
00:15:41,417 --> 00:15:42,718
- That was good for Steve.
357
00:15:42,852 --> 00:15:45,487
I think that gave
him some credibility.
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00:15:45,621 --> 00:15:48,257
- Guys like Bret, myself,
and you are now considered
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00:15:48,390 --> 00:15:53,395
a main player in that, and so
it's rewarding in that respect.
360
00:15:54,530 --> 00:15:56,098
- It was a terrific match.
361
00:15:56,232 --> 00:15:59,602
For Steve to get to that next
level, he had to have that right
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00:15:59,735 --> 00:16:02,972
of passage, and walk
through hell against some
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00:16:03,105 --> 00:16:04,940
great champion,
and that was Bret Hart.
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00:16:05,074 --> 00:16:06,342
- I didn't have a foot
in either camp.
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00:16:06,475 --> 00:16:07,576
I was a Bret guy because
I love Bret's work,
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00:16:07,710 --> 00:16:10,880
but I also respected "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin.
367
00:16:11,013 --> 00:16:13,215
For some reason,
when that match happened,
368
00:16:13,349 --> 00:16:15,718
I switched and I went
and I was like,
369
00:16:15,851 --> 00:16:19,355
"Mom, do you have a black vest
or a gold chain I could put on?"
370
00:16:19,488 --> 00:16:21,891
Because for some reason,
something about that match made
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00:16:22,024 --> 00:16:23,158
me go all in on Stone Cold.
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00:16:23,292 --> 00:16:25,194
I think that was its purpose
in itself was to legitimize
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00:16:25,327 --> 00:16:26,829
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
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00:16:26,962 --> 00:16:31,634
- Renee, was this moment from
Stone Cold enough to break your
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00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:35,337
loyalty from the
wonderful Bret Hart,
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00:16:35,471 --> 00:16:37,439
or are you still Bret Hart
all day long?
377
00:16:37,573 --> 00:16:39,041
- Listen, I'm not going to say
that it broke
378
00:16:39,174 --> 00:16:40,676
my loyalty to Bret Hart.
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00:16:40,809 --> 00:16:42,511
I love Bret Hart through and
through,
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00:16:42,645 --> 00:16:46,248
but it did pique this
interest of like, "Okay."
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00:16:46,382 --> 00:16:48,284
- At Madison Square Garden,
it was the luckiest day
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00:16:48,417 --> 00:16:51,120
of your life making a comeback.
383
00:16:51,253 --> 00:16:53,422
It was just a fluke that you
happened to beat me, son,
384
00:16:53,555 --> 00:16:57,293
because I was every bit better
than you and you know it.
385
00:16:57,426 --> 00:17:01,997
Things ain't over between
us by a long sight.
386
00:17:02,131 --> 00:17:04,500
- Wait just a minute,
there's Steve Austin.
387
00:17:04,633 --> 00:17:05,901
Oh, Austin.
388
00:17:06,035 --> 00:17:07,336
- It seemed like every time I
turned around,
389
00:17:07,469 --> 00:17:09,004
I was getting jumped by Steve.
390
00:17:09,138 --> 00:17:10,072
[bell rings]
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00:17:10,205 --> 00:17:12,541
- It happened.
Bret Hart is hurt.
392
00:17:12,675 --> 00:17:15,811
- The tension between Bret and
Austin, it felt realistic.
393
00:17:15,945 --> 00:17:17,980
- Look at that, that's low.
394
00:17:18,113 --> 00:17:19,214
[bell rings]
395
00:17:19,348 --> 00:17:22,685
- Bret Hart just got knocked
out with that steel chair.
396
00:17:22,818 --> 00:17:25,654
- Physicality just got
that much more intense.
397
00:17:25,788 --> 00:17:27,990
- Oh, no, he's got the
sharpshooter over there.
398
00:17:28,123 --> 00:17:30,759
[bell rings]
399
00:17:30,893 --> 00:17:35,097
- It was so real,
you had to believe it.
400
00:17:35,230 --> 00:17:36,865
- This is going to take us
to the Royal Rumble.
401
00:17:36,999 --> 00:17:40,235
- Remember the object, to throw
your opponent over the top rope,
402
00:17:40,369 --> 00:17:43,739
and both feet must
hit the floor.
403
00:17:43,872 --> 00:17:45,841
- Stone Cold is beating up
everybody.
404
00:17:45,975 --> 00:17:47,309
He's clearing the ring.
405
00:17:47,443 --> 00:17:50,579
- "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
is picking them off.
406
00:17:50,713 --> 00:17:52,848
- He sits on the turnbuckle-
407
00:17:52,982 --> 00:17:56,051
- He's basically awaiting for
the next individual to come out.
408
00:17:56,185 --> 00:18:01,056
- -checks his watch and says,
"Who's next?"
409
00:18:01,190 --> 00:18:02,424
- He wants a place
on the top rope.
410
00:18:02,558 --> 00:18:03,926
Listen to his watch.
411
00:18:04,059 --> 00:18:04,860
- I'm waiting.
412
00:18:04,994 --> 00:18:06,829
I'm letting you know
I'm waiting.
413
00:18:06,962 --> 00:18:10,165
[crowd cheers]
414
00:18:10,299 --> 00:18:11,133
[Bret Hart's music plays]
415
00:18:11,266 --> 00:18:12,167
- Uh Oh.
416
00:18:12,301 --> 00:18:14,336
Yes.
417
00:18:14,470 --> 00:18:16,605
- You have that priceless
facial expression.
418
00:18:16,739 --> 00:18:18,240
- Steve was throwing
everybody out of the Rumble,
419
00:18:18,374 --> 00:18:20,709
and then I came in.
420
00:18:25,047 --> 00:18:28,717
- One of the most priceless
reactions that any wrestler has
421
00:18:28,851 --> 00:18:31,286
ever had in the Royal Rumble.
422
00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:33,422
Others have tried since then.
423
00:18:33,555 --> 00:18:35,724
None have matched this moment.
424
00:18:35,858 --> 00:18:38,961
- Now, it's serious because he's
relatively had an easy time up
425
00:18:39,094 --> 00:18:40,896
until that point, and now when
he hears the music,
426
00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:42,531
he knows he's in trouble.
427
00:18:42,665 --> 00:18:44,800
- Well, this is hell, fire
and brimstone
428
00:18:44,933 --> 00:18:46,602
when these two get together.
429
00:18:46,735 --> 00:18:49,471
- The 1997 Royal Rumble
heating up.
430
00:18:49,605 --> 00:18:51,507
Six competitors in the ring.
431
00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,710
- The only way to get eliminated
from a Royal Rumble match
432
00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:56,745
is to get thrown
over the top rope,
433
00:18:56,879 --> 00:18:58,747
and have your feet
touch the floor.
434
00:18:58,881 --> 00:19:00,949
- Austin's been eliminated.
435
00:19:01,083 --> 00:19:05,087
- During the match, Bret Hart
eliminated Steve Austin,
436
00:19:05,220 --> 00:19:07,656
but the referee didn't
see it happen.
437
00:19:07,790 --> 00:19:10,092
- Now, the referee didn't see
it.
438
00:19:10,225 --> 00:19:12,695
- Steve being
the ultimate rule-breaker,
439
00:19:12,828 --> 00:19:14,496
snuck back in the ring.
440
00:19:14,630 --> 00:19:16,365
- Now it's over.
441
00:19:16,498 --> 00:19:17,399
Oh, no.
442
00:19:17,533 --> 00:19:19,001
No.
443
00:19:19,134 --> 00:19:23,238
- While the referee was looking,
he threw Bret Hart
444
00:19:23,372 --> 00:19:24,707
over the top rope.
445
00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,742
This was the first instance
of Bret Hart starting
446
00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:29,244
to feel cheated.
447
00:19:29,378 --> 00:19:33,115
- I've been screwed by "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin.
448
00:19:33,248 --> 00:19:36,719
The Rumble really did turn that
up a dial, and really cranked up
449
00:19:36,852 --> 00:19:39,288
the heat between me and Steve.
450
00:19:39,421 --> 00:19:40,756
- Uh-oh.
451
00:19:40,889 --> 00:19:43,892
Bret Hart and Austin
are going to get it on here.
452
00:19:44,026 --> 00:19:45,027
What a brawl.
453
00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,463
It's a fistfight in the
aisleway.
454
00:19:47,596 --> 00:19:50,165
You better get some security
from the locker room.
455
00:19:50,299 --> 00:19:51,533
- You want people to believe.
456
00:19:51,667 --> 00:19:53,735
We made people believe.
457
00:19:53,869 --> 00:19:57,072
- Look at Austin and Bret Hart
fighting again.
458
00:19:57,206 --> 00:19:59,875
- Every time you turned around,
Stone Cold was right there
459
00:20:00,008 --> 00:20:01,877
doing something.
460
00:20:02,010 --> 00:20:02,978
- Wait a minute.
461
00:20:03,112 --> 00:20:04,313
Now, Steve Austin.
462
00:20:04,446 --> 00:20:08,417
Steve Austin has absolutely
become obsessed with Bret Hart.
463
00:20:08,550 --> 00:20:10,853
- I wish Bret was the one
attacking Steve, [chuckles]
464
00:20:10,986 --> 00:20:13,555
but it was such an exciting TV.
465
00:20:13,689 --> 00:20:17,192
- The tensions between me and
Steve were built up masterfully.
466
00:20:17,326 --> 00:20:19,128
- They're trying
to separate these guys.
467
00:20:19,261 --> 00:20:21,163
- Bret Hart went
through this period,
468
00:20:21,296 --> 00:20:24,867
where no matter what he did,
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin
469
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,037
was right there on top of
him, antagonizing him,
470
00:20:29,171 --> 00:20:31,473
interfering in his matches.
471
00:20:31,607 --> 00:20:33,342
- Austin's got a chair.
472
00:20:33,475 --> 00:20:35,310
Oh, Austin-- Bret Hart got hit
by a chair.
473
00:20:35,444 --> 00:20:37,446
My God.
474
00:20:37,579 --> 00:20:42,251
- The more it happened,
Bret Hart started vocalizing
475
00:20:42,384 --> 00:20:45,754
the fact that he felt
he was being cheated.
476
00:20:45,888 --> 00:20:50,859
- I'm sorry that I'm crying,
but I think I've about had it
477
00:20:50,993 --> 00:20:53,729
up to here with
the lack of justice.
478
00:20:53,862 --> 00:20:57,065
- The cool thing about this is
I find a lot of people say,
479
00:20:57,199 --> 00:21:01,036
"I was here and it brought
me over to here."
480
00:21:01,170 --> 00:21:03,772
All of a sudden,
Bret Hart isn't saying
481
00:21:03,906 --> 00:21:06,408
the hero character things.
482
00:21:06,542 --> 00:21:11,914
He's starting to say things that
make him sound entitled.
483
00:21:12,047 --> 00:21:14,950
- Frustrated isn't
a -- word for it.
484
00:21:15,083 --> 00:21:17,953
This is --.
485
00:21:18,086 --> 00:21:19,354
- He kind of started --
and moaning
486
00:21:19,488 --> 00:21:20,989
a little bit in his promos.
487
00:21:21,123 --> 00:21:23,959
All you want to do anytime
you go in the ring
488
00:21:24,092 --> 00:21:25,527
is cry like a baby.
489
00:21:25,661 --> 00:21:27,563
- Bret Hart did
uncharacteristically
490
00:21:27,696 --> 00:21:29,565
become a whiner.
491
00:21:29,698 --> 00:21:32,835
As much as we love Bret,
no one loves a whiner.
492
00:21:32,968 --> 00:21:35,504
- Everybody in that --
dressing room knows
493
00:21:35,637 --> 00:21:38,774
that I'm the best there is,
the best there was,
494
00:21:38,907 --> 00:21:40,609
and the best
there ever will be.
495
00:21:40,742 --> 00:21:43,845
If you don't like it, tough --.
496
00:21:43,979 --> 00:21:46,882
- Steve's a bad guy that's
becoming such a cool badass
497
00:21:47,015 --> 00:21:49,751
bad guy, that people are
actually starting to like him,
498
00:21:49,885 --> 00:21:54,723
and I've become this hero that's
been on the shelf too long.
499
00:21:54,857 --> 00:21:56,658
- Steve Austin goes out there in
a black pair of trunks
500
00:21:56,792 --> 00:21:59,361
and a black pair of boots,
and gets the job done.
501
00:21:59,494 --> 00:22:03,198
- I think the young fans,
especially, got into that
502
00:22:03,332 --> 00:22:06,969
anti-establishment mode,
and there was nobody more
503
00:22:07,102 --> 00:22:10,072
anti-establishment than
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
504
00:22:10,205 --> 00:22:13,208
- No one can tell me
that I can't be here.
505
00:22:13,342 --> 00:22:16,144
Here I come full head of steam
talking all that trash,
506
00:22:16,278 --> 00:22:19,014
because I was so entertaining,
people wanted to like me.
507
00:22:19,147 --> 00:22:21,516
- Bret was still very much
playing the hero,
508
00:22:21,650 --> 00:22:25,087
but horrible things he was
saying to the traditional hero
509
00:22:25,220 --> 00:22:27,022
were really starting
to catch on.
510
00:22:27,155 --> 00:22:30,592
- Bret Hart on his best day
can't lace my boots,
511
00:22:30,726 --> 00:22:32,794
and I'm going to prove that
to the world.
512
00:22:32,928 --> 00:22:35,230
- Everybody picked up on it,
and it did made it
513
00:22:35,364 --> 00:22:36,765
that much more interesting.
514
00:22:36,899 --> 00:22:39,735
- Ever since you came back,
you ain't done nothing but cry.
515
00:22:39,868 --> 00:22:42,537
[crowd cheers]
516
00:22:42,671 --> 00:22:44,706
- I had a pretty good long run,
and it's started to show that
517
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,776
they're getting tired of me
being the hero.
518
00:22:47,909 --> 00:22:50,879
You feel like a draft
in the room.
519
00:22:51,013 --> 00:22:51,780
What do you want?
520
00:22:51,913 --> 00:22:53,048
Get the hell out of here.
521
00:22:53,181 --> 00:22:56,685
Get that --
thing out of here.
522
00:22:56,818 --> 00:22:58,553
I said get out of here.
523
00:22:58,687 --> 00:23:02,157
[music]
524
00:23:02,291 --> 00:23:05,827
- At my house in San Antonio
about two weeks
525
00:23:05,961 --> 00:23:08,397
before WrestleMania 13,
I'm watching Raw,
526
00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:11,066
and I know that the main event
is Undertaker versus
527
00:23:11,199 --> 00:23:14,469
Sid Vicious, and then I hear
and in a submission match.
528
00:23:14,603 --> 00:23:17,606
- Bret Hart, who will be in a
submission match,
529
00:23:17,739 --> 00:23:19,641
ladies and gentlemen,
one-on-one with
530
00:23:19,775 --> 00:23:22,644
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin
at WrestleMania.
531
00:23:22,778 --> 00:23:25,180
- I'm like, "That's news to me.
532
00:23:25,314 --> 00:23:28,684
Nobody told me
the submission match."
533
00:23:28,817 --> 00:23:33,655
I'm not a submission wrestler,
so I was hot.
534
00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:35,490
As far as a submission match,
it's a bunch of bull.
535
00:23:35,624 --> 00:23:39,528
- A submission match,
there's no pinfalls.
536
00:23:39,661 --> 00:23:42,164
Like Steve said, he didn't have
any submission holds,
537
00:23:42,297 --> 00:23:44,399
and I had the Sharpshooter,
but that's about it.
538
00:23:44,533 --> 00:23:47,035
- Nobody gets
out of the Sharpshooter.
539
00:23:47,169 --> 00:23:50,272
- I thought is a big obstacle to
having a great match,
540
00:23:50,405 --> 00:23:52,607
not an opportunity to have
a great match.
541
00:23:52,741 --> 00:23:56,178
He won't be able to scream
loud enough the words,
542
00:23:56,311 --> 00:23:59,614
"I give" in a submission match.
543
00:23:59,748 --> 00:24:01,550
Little did I know that
this was going to be
544
00:24:01,683 --> 00:24:03,585
one of the greatest f
matches of all time.
545
00:24:03,719 --> 00:24:07,322
- There ain't nobody in
wrestling who can make me quit,
546
00:24:07,456 --> 00:24:12,160
and that's the bottom line
because Stone Cold said so.
547
00:24:15,997 --> 00:24:16,798
- He's lost it.
548
00:24:16,932 --> 00:24:18,066
Look at him.
549
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,635
- Oh, he just hit
Hall of Famer Pat Paterson.
550
00:24:20,769 --> 00:24:22,637
- In the build-up
to WrestleMania,
551
00:24:22,771 --> 00:24:26,508
we are simultaneously losing
a little bit of our affection
552
00:24:26,641 --> 00:24:29,244
for Bret "The Hitman" Hart-
553
00:24:29,378 --> 00:24:30,812
- Bret Hart is trying to choke
the life out of
554
00:24:30,946 --> 00:24:32,814
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
555
00:24:32,948 --> 00:24:35,384
- -while we are gaining
admiration
556
00:24:35,517 --> 00:24:37,786
for what Steve Austin is doing.
557
00:24:37,919 --> 00:24:40,589
- This build starts to get a
little out of control on the way
558
00:24:40,722 --> 00:24:43,025
to WrestleMania,
and just to make sure
559
00:24:43,158 --> 00:24:46,161
that things are going
to be done correctly,
560
00:24:46,294 --> 00:24:48,830
they bring in the
ultimate referee.
561
00:24:48,964 --> 00:24:54,169
- My guest at this time is known
in the Ultimate Fighting world
562
00:24:54,302 --> 00:24:58,740
as the Most Dangerous Man
in the World.
563
00:24:58,874 --> 00:25:02,544
Please welcome to the squared
circle, Ken Shamrock.
564
00:25:02,677 --> 00:25:05,047
[crowd cheers]
565
00:25:05,180 --> 00:25:08,717
- Shamrock is the closest thing
to a pure warrior
566
00:25:08,850 --> 00:25:11,853
that I've ever seen,
the world has ever seen.
567
00:25:11,987 --> 00:25:16,124
- The Submission Match,
you will be the special referee
568
00:25:16,258 --> 00:25:17,325
for that matchup.
569
00:25:17,459 --> 00:25:18,527
- Oh.
570
00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:21,229
- I am going to be
a fair referee.
571
00:25:21,363 --> 00:25:24,933
Whether Bret Hart likes it,
or "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
572
00:25:25,067 --> 00:25:27,602
likes it,
it doesn't really matter.
573
00:25:27,736 --> 00:25:30,005
- Being who he was
and how he refereed,
574
00:25:30,138 --> 00:25:31,406
he was a big part of that match.
575
00:25:31,540 --> 00:25:32,707
He really was.
576
00:25:32,841 --> 00:25:36,611
I just hope that he calls it
down the middle,
577
00:25:36,745 --> 00:25:39,714
and I just hope he gets nice and
close, so he can hear those
578
00:25:39,848 --> 00:25:43,552
magic words, "I quit."
579
00:25:43,685 --> 00:25:45,620
- I was happy to be wrestling
Bret, but I was very surprised
580
00:25:45,754 --> 00:25:48,457
that they named it
a submission match.
581
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:51,059
I thought we were going
to stink the joint out because
582
00:25:51,193 --> 00:25:52,494
of the type of match it was.
583
00:25:52,627 --> 00:25:54,129
You're almost setting
yourself up for failure.
584
00:25:54,262 --> 00:25:55,430
[music]
585
00:25:55,564 --> 00:25:57,199
- The only question that
remains is will the number 13
586
00:25:57,332 --> 00:25:59,901
be lucky or unlucky for "Stone
Cold" Steve Austin
587
00:26:00,035 --> 00:26:01,937
tonight the submission match.
588
00:26:02,070 --> 00:26:03,505
- You can damn well bet
it's going to be an
589
00:26:03,638 --> 00:26:05,140
unlucky number for Bret Hart.
590
00:26:05,273 --> 00:26:07,943
Let me just say this, a
submission match
591
00:26:08,076 --> 00:26:10,045
is not my kind of match.
592
00:26:10,178 --> 00:26:11,813
Do I know a whole lot of
wrestling holds?
593
00:26:11,947 --> 00:26:14,983
Hell no, I don't, but I'll beat
the hell out of you
594
00:26:15,117 --> 00:26:17,919
till you do say, "I quit."
595
00:26:18,053 --> 00:26:20,922
- to think the key to the Steve
Austin match was,
596
00:26:21,056 --> 00:26:22,791
I had a lot of school fights in
my life,
597
00:26:22,924 --> 00:26:25,327
where I had to fight
somebody after school.
598
00:26:25,460 --> 00:26:27,429
A lot of times, it's just like
pro wrestling.
599
00:26:27,562 --> 00:26:29,598
It gets promoted all day.
600
00:26:29,731 --> 00:26:32,367
- Do not miss out on the
pay-per-view extravaganza
601
00:26:32,501 --> 00:26:35,837
of the year, WrestleMania 13.
602
00:26:35,971 --> 00:26:38,540
- I'm like the star quarterback
on the high school team,
603
00:26:38,673 --> 00:26:41,176
and then this new kid
comes to the school.
604
00:26:41,309 --> 00:26:42,410
He's bald head,
and he's got an attitude.
605
00:26:42,544 --> 00:26:45,780
He's a badass and it's like,
you can just see this,
606
00:26:45,914 --> 00:26:47,883
it's going to happen.
607
00:26:48,016 --> 00:26:49,885
These two guys
are going to crash.
608
00:26:50,018 --> 00:26:51,153
I remember talking to Steve.
609
00:26:51,286 --> 00:26:54,656
I said,
"This is like a school fight."
610
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:58,126
- Welcome, everyone
to WrestleMania 13.
611
00:26:58,260 --> 00:27:05,433
Welcome to a jam-packed sold-out
Rosemont Horizon in Chicago.
612
00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:08,003
- Very fortunate to be working
in my favorite building and the
613
00:27:08,136 --> 00:27:10,972
work of all time,
Rosemount Horizon.
614
00:27:11,106 --> 00:27:12,908
The reason I say that with all
due respect to
615
00:27:13,041 --> 00:27:16,344
Madison Square Garden,
is because of the wood ceiling.
616
00:27:16,478 --> 00:27:18,747
In Rosemount,
the acoustics are so good.
617
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,149
When you do something,
you elicit a response,
618
00:27:21,283 --> 00:27:24,452
and the way that acoustically
shoots that response
619
00:27:24,586 --> 00:27:25,687
down to you, you hear it.
620
00:27:25,820 --> 00:27:28,356
You step on the gas,
you're making decisions
621
00:27:28,490 --> 00:27:30,458
based on that crowd.
622
00:27:33,395 --> 00:27:36,097
- You talk about in-your-face,
that is who
623
00:27:36,231 --> 00:27:40,235
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin is,
and getting quite a positive
624
00:27:40,368 --> 00:27:44,072
response from this
capacity crowd.
625
00:27:44,205 --> 00:27:48,343
A mixed reaction to a man who
unquestionably has a legacy
626
00:27:48,476 --> 00:27:51,313
here in the World Wrestling --.
627
00:27:51,446 --> 00:27:55,283
As of late, that legacy
has somewhat taken a turn.
628
00:27:55,417 --> 00:27:58,453
- Bret Hart and "Stone Cold"
Steve Austin spent months
629
00:27:58,587 --> 00:28:03,358
building this story that
culminated in a submission match
630
00:28:03,491 --> 00:28:06,328
at WrestleMania
with Ken Shamrock
631
00:28:06,461 --> 00:28:12,067
making his first major WWE
appearance as the referee.
632
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,102
- Steve Austin, is 6'2", 252,
said,
633
00:28:14,235 --> 00:28:16,771
"There's not a human being
walking the face of the earth
634
00:28:16,905 --> 00:28:20,308
that can make him say,
'I quit'."
635
00:28:20,442 --> 00:28:23,345
I think I believe it.
636
00:28:24,212 --> 00:28:24,980
- Look out.
Here we go.
637
00:28:25,113 --> 00:28:25,981
- Here we go.
638
00:28:26,114 --> 00:28:27,549
[bell rings]
639
00:28:27,682 --> 00:28:31,319
- As soon as Bret and I started
going, I'm tuned into the crowd,
640
00:28:31,453 --> 00:28:34,055
and so we've got them hooked
right from the get-go.
641
00:28:34,189 --> 00:28:35,523
- You can't be counted out.
642
00:28:35,657 --> 00:28:37,325
You cannot be disqualified.
643
00:28:37,459 --> 00:28:41,229
You've got to quit
to end the match.
644
00:28:42,097 --> 00:28:43,131
- We took them on a ride.
645
00:28:43,265 --> 00:28:44,499
We brawled up.
646
00:28:44,633 --> 00:28:48,970
- Oh, they're up in the stands
with some 18,197 fans watching.
647
00:28:49,104 --> 00:28:49,871
- Oh, my God.
648
00:28:50,005 --> 00:28:51,139
- Oh my goodness.
649
00:28:51,273 --> 00:28:52,474
They don't care
where they take this thing.
650
00:28:52,607 --> 00:28:55,176
- You're talking about two guys
that could make really small
651
00:28:55,310 --> 00:28:57,112
things mean an awful lot.
652
00:28:57,245 --> 00:28:59,648
- These two men
are battering each other.
653
00:28:59,781 --> 00:29:01,950
[crowd cheers]
654
00:29:02,083 --> 00:29:05,253
- If you're ever studying to be
a wrestler, this is a match
655
00:29:05,387 --> 00:29:07,989
you should check out,
it is like a perfect match.
656
00:29:08,123 --> 00:29:10,825
- Bret Hart is spinning months
and months of frustration
657
00:29:10,959 --> 00:29:13,495
on "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
658
00:29:13,628 --> 00:29:16,264
- We've all seen
thousands of matches.
659
00:29:16,398 --> 00:29:18,199
You only remember things
that are really bad,
660
00:29:18,333 --> 00:29:20,402
and the things that are really
something special.
661
00:29:20,535 --> 00:29:21,736
- Oh, there you go.
662
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:23,104
The "Stone Cold" stunner.
663
00:29:23,238 --> 00:29:25,573
- Remember,
pinfalls don't count.
664
00:29:25,707 --> 00:29:28,910
- You can sense that something
extraordinary is taking place.
665
00:29:29,010 --> 00:29:30,412
- Whoa.
666
00:29:30,545 --> 00:29:32,681
- Listen to this capacity crowd.
667
00:29:32,814 --> 00:29:35,650
Austin won't give up.
668
00:29:35,784 --> 00:29:39,854
- WrestleMania 13, it was like
the fans started to change.
669
00:29:39,988 --> 00:29:43,458
All of a sudden something Bret
Hart would do, he'd get booed.
670
00:29:43,591 --> 00:29:46,494
- Bret Hart now ripping that
hamstring.
671
00:29:46,628 --> 00:29:48,963
- And Stone Cold,
he's getting cheered.
672
00:29:49,097 --> 00:29:50,565
- Oh.
673
00:29:50,699 --> 00:29:53,835
Austin said he was going to
beat the hell out of Bret Hart,
674
00:29:53,968 --> 00:29:57,839
and that's what he's doing right
now with the help of some steel.
675
00:29:57,972 --> 00:30:02,844
- I remember the monitors
backstage being packed.
676
00:30:02,977 --> 00:30:05,780
You were drawn to it like
a moth to a flame.
677
00:30:05,914 --> 00:30:08,717
- This is about athleticism
a hell of a fight
678
00:30:08,850 --> 00:30:10,819
between two great athletes.
679
00:30:10,952 --> 00:30:13,888
- We're all just looking around,
wondering amongst each other,
680
00:30:14,022 --> 00:30:17,692
"How in the world is this thing
going to end?"
681
00:30:21,796 --> 00:30:24,065
- "Stone Cold" Steve Austin
coming outside
682
00:30:24,199 --> 00:30:26,034
now with Bret Hart, here we go.
683
00:30:26,167 --> 00:30:28,603
- The reason this match
resonated the way it did was,
684
00:30:28,737 --> 00:30:31,639
because I was damn good
at what I was doing.
685
00:30:31,773 --> 00:30:33,908
Bret was excellent
at what he was doing,
686
00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:37,479
and the chemistry just worked.
687
00:30:37,612 --> 00:30:40,448
When we got there,
we just have a conversation.
688
00:30:40,582 --> 00:30:42,817
- This is about eleven o'clock
in the morning on the day of,
689
00:30:42,951 --> 00:30:45,053
wandered out to the ring and
it's like, I remember sitting
690
00:30:45,186 --> 00:30:48,323
on the apron of the ring going,
"What are we doing?"
691
00:30:48,456 --> 00:30:50,692
- Bret says to me,
"You need to be bleeding."
692
00:30:50,825 --> 00:30:52,227
I said, "You think?"
693
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,363
He goes, "Yes, you do."
694
00:30:55,497 --> 00:30:57,365
- Austin's has been busted open.
695
00:30:57,499 --> 00:30:59,801
Well, he is bleeding profusely.
696
00:30:59,934 --> 00:31:03,872
- In '97, WWE was attempting to
go no blood.
697
00:31:04,005 --> 00:31:07,442
- I come up, the crowd sees
how bad I'm bleeding,
698
00:31:07,575 --> 00:31:10,178
and they just "Ooh",
they lean in, right?
699
00:31:10,311 --> 00:31:12,013
- Oh, he's busted bad.
700
00:31:12,147 --> 00:31:15,784
- It just jumped off the screen
because you were not seeing
701
00:31:15,917 --> 00:31:18,853
it week-to-week on TV at all.
702
00:31:18,987 --> 00:31:21,523
- Right on the injured knee,
Bret Hart now is like l
703
00:31:21,656 --> 00:31:23,691
an animal out of control.
704
00:31:23,825 --> 00:31:26,928
- Steve absorbed an incredible
amount of punishment,
705
00:31:27,061 --> 00:31:29,397
but that was part of the
Stone Cold character
706
00:31:29,531 --> 00:31:31,533
take a licking, keep on ticking.
707
00:31:31,666 --> 00:31:34,402
- Steve Austin is one tough SOB.
708
00:31:34,536 --> 00:31:37,705
- There's a certain magic
that comes out from two guys
709
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:39,274
that are just professionals.
710
00:31:39,407 --> 00:31:41,142
I was trying so hard for
Steve and myself
711
00:31:41,276 --> 00:31:44,012
to do something incredible.
712
00:31:44,145 --> 00:31:45,213
[crowd cheers]
713
00:31:45,346 --> 00:31:48,716
- Bret Hart just
rang of this bell.
714
00:31:48,850 --> 00:31:51,319
- Bret finally gets me
in his submission hold,
715
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:52,720
the Sharpshooter.
716
00:31:52,854 --> 00:31:53,688
- He's almost got him.
717
00:31:53,822 --> 00:31:54,789
- Sharpshooter.
718
00:31:54,923 --> 00:31:56,324
He's got it on.
719
00:31:56,457 --> 00:31:58,159
- When I put it on
Steve and cranked it in,
720
00:31:58,293 --> 00:31:59,727
it's like everyone knows
that's the end.
721
00:31:59,861 --> 00:32:01,796
Nobody ever gets out.
722
00:32:01,930 --> 00:32:03,498
- This is Bret Hart's move.
723
00:32:03,631 --> 00:32:07,936
- Who would blame
Stone Cold if he gave up here?
724
00:32:08,069 --> 00:32:11,573
- "Stone cold" Steve Austin,
the blood pouring down his face.
725
00:32:11,706 --> 00:32:12,640
He's screaming in pain.
726
00:32:12,774 --> 00:32:15,176
[crowd cheers]
727
00:32:15,310 --> 00:32:18,346
- The blood pours from that
forehead of Stone Cold.
728
00:32:18,479 --> 00:32:20,815
- Ken Shamrock asking him, s
doe he give up?
729
00:32:20,949 --> 00:32:22,083
- Steve, do you give up?
730
00:32:22,217 --> 00:32:23,585
- No.
731
00:32:23,718 --> 00:32:25,453
- Continues to resist the pain.
732
00:32:25,587 --> 00:32:27,088
People are standing.
733
00:32:27,222 --> 00:32:32,260
Can you imagine the pain that's
rushing through Austin's body?
734
00:32:32,393 --> 00:32:36,331
- I grounded my hands into the
mat, and as I pushed up
735
00:32:36,464 --> 00:32:39,400
and was straining, blood just
started flowing out of my head,
736
00:32:39,534 --> 00:32:42,837
and it ran down my cheek
bin etween my teeth.
737
00:32:42,971 --> 00:32:45,306
- Austin, trying to get one
more rush of adrenaline.
738
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,275
- It's not a pretty sight.
739
00:32:47,408 --> 00:32:50,511
- I'm thinking to myself,
"God dang, this feels good."
740
00:32:53,414 --> 00:32:56,384
- Come on, Austin, come on,
come on, come on, and he was
741
00:32:56,517 --> 00:32:59,120
just like, "Aah", he's just like
blood crimson mess.
742
00:32:59,254 --> 00:33:00,889
It's-- Oh, man.
743
00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:01,956
- He's doing the impossible.
744
00:33:02,090 --> 00:33:02,891
- Nobody has ever done this.
745
00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:04,459
Nobody's ever broken
the Sharpshooter.
746
00:33:04,592 --> 00:33:05,093
- He did it.
747
00:33:05,226 --> 00:33:05,860
He did it.
748
00:33:05,994 --> 00:33:06,628
He just did it.
749
00:33:06,761 --> 00:33:08,196
- Austin broke the Sharpshooter.
750
00:33:08,329 --> 00:33:10,765
- Tipped me over,
and I remember I tipped over
751
00:33:10,899 --> 00:33:12,600
and I could feel
the crowd just pop.
752
00:33:12,734 --> 00:33:14,035
Like they just like, that's what
they wanted.
753
00:33:14,168 --> 00:33:16,237
They wanted him to win,
and I could feel it.
754
00:33:16,371 --> 00:33:18,039
I remember I'd push
myself back up,
755
00:33:18,172 --> 00:33:20,441
and I'd break their hearts
when I put him back in the hold.
756
00:33:20,575 --> 00:33:22,143
- Austin will not surrender.
757
00:33:22,277 --> 00:33:24,479
He will not submit.
758
00:33:24,612 --> 00:33:26,481
- That's where you
make Steve Austin.
759
00:33:26,614 --> 00:33:28,383
[crowd cheers]
760
00:33:28,516 --> 00:33:30,518
- How in the hell,
Austin is not giving up,
761
00:33:30,652 --> 00:33:31,619
I can't understand.
762
00:33:31,753 --> 00:33:33,121
- Do you give up?
763
00:33:33,254 --> 00:33:34,789
- This guy's going to die
in this hold,
764
00:33:34,923 --> 00:33:36,357
but he ain't going to give up.
765
00:33:36,491 --> 00:33:37,792
He ain't going to give up.
766
00:33:37,926 --> 00:33:38,893
- Ken Shamrock stopping it.
767
00:33:39,027 --> 00:33:40,495
Stopping it right now,
that's it.
768
00:33:40,628 --> 00:33:42,597
[bell rings]
769
00:33:42,730 --> 00:33:43,531
- They rang the bell.
770
00:33:43,665 --> 00:33:45,066
He passed out.
771
00:33:45,199 --> 00:33:47,735
The guy never said, "I quit."
772
00:33:47,869 --> 00:33:51,806
- Austin never gave up,
but he passed out with the pain.
773
00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:54,042
- He didn't quit,
he didn't submit.
774
00:33:54,175 --> 00:33:57,111
That gets you respect.
775
00:33:58,780 --> 00:34:02,550
- Passing out from a submission
hold, covered in blood.
776
00:34:02,684 --> 00:34:05,920
- That moment and that finish
is one of the most iconic images
777
00:34:06,054 --> 00:34:07,655
maybe in wrestling.
778
00:34:07,789 --> 00:34:08,957
- Oh, yes.
779
00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,659
To be in that Sharpshooter,
the blood pouring down his face.
780
00:34:11,793 --> 00:34:14,429
That was just such
an iconic moment.
781
00:34:14,562 --> 00:34:17,699
- Austin arcing up,
and the blood is on his tooth.
782
00:34:17,832 --> 00:34:18,900
- The blood goes on his teeth.
783
00:34:19,033 --> 00:34:20,301
- That's the moment where you
can tell right there--
784
00:34:20,435 --> 00:34:22,570
- The blood drop ,
on the teeth yes.
785
00:34:22,704 --> 00:34:23,771
- We're yelling,
the blood's on the teeth.
786
00:34:23,905 --> 00:34:25,073
He's got his blue eyes.
787
00:34:25,206 --> 00:34:26,441
It's just--
It's a perfect moment.
788
00:34:26,574 --> 00:34:29,777
- It's a beautiful struggle of a
guy fighting with all he's got.
789
00:34:29,911 --> 00:34:31,846
- One of the most iconic
pictures in the history
790
00:34:31,980 --> 00:34:33,781
of professional wrestling.
791
00:34:33,915 --> 00:34:36,617
- There is just
something about that image
792
00:34:36,751 --> 00:34:38,786
that has stood the test of time.
793
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,457
It symbolizes
everything Steve was about.
794
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:48,029
You can beat him,
but you can't stop him.
795
00:34:48,162 --> 00:34:51,265
- What that did for me,
the fact that, hey, man,
796
00:34:51,399 --> 00:34:55,036
Stone Cold's this bad --,
but he won't give up.
797
00:34:55,169 --> 00:34:57,372
He might be a piece of --
and I don't like him,
798
00:34:57,505 --> 00:34:59,240
but he won't give up.
799
00:34:59,374 --> 00:35:01,109
They knew that I would go
through thick and thin
800
00:35:01,242 --> 00:35:04,345
through anything,
and never ever give up,
801
00:35:04,479 --> 00:35:06,914
and that's what the blood said
at the end of that match.
802
00:35:07,048 --> 00:35:11,619
- I have never seen a display of
intestinal fortitude like we saw
803
00:35:11,753 --> 00:35:14,288
with "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
804
00:35:14,422 --> 00:35:15,490
- That's what
touches your heart.
805
00:35:15,623 --> 00:35:17,025
When you see someone fight
that hard and give
806
00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:19,794
so much of himself.
807
00:35:19,927 --> 00:35:23,531
Steve would've been a big star
irregardless of that match,
808
00:35:23,665 --> 00:35:26,901
but at the same time,
that match was just so iconic
809
00:35:27,035 --> 00:35:28,770
right from the moment
it happened.
810
00:35:28,903 --> 00:35:31,639
Such a beautiful, violent story,
811
00:35:31,773 --> 00:35:35,443
and I think it was for sure
the best match of my career.
812
00:35:38,780 --> 00:35:40,181
- Wait a minute,
what's Bret doing?
813
00:35:40,314 --> 00:35:42,183
Come on, Bret, enough is enough.
814
00:35:42,316 --> 00:35:43,751
[bell rings]
815
00:35:43,885 --> 00:35:47,655
- Bret Hart then
tries to go after Austin again.
816
00:35:47,789 --> 00:35:51,592
- Ken Shamrock
just took down The Hitman.
817
00:35:51,726 --> 00:35:55,630
- I remember thinking to myself,
"Oh, this is interesting.
818
00:35:55,763 --> 00:35:58,566
Let's see where this might go."
819
00:36:02,503 --> 00:36:04,005
- Ken Shamrock, stopping it,
stopping it right now,
820
00:36:04,138 --> 00:36:05,239
that's it.
821
00:36:05,373 --> 00:36:07,508
[bell rings]
822
00:36:07,642 --> 00:36:12,747
- This finish shows how tough
and amazing Stone Cold is,
823
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,884
so Bret goes crazy and starts
beating up the man who passed
824
00:36:17,018 --> 00:36:19,420
out from the Sharpshooter,
to the point where
825
00:36:19,554 --> 00:36:22,757
Ken Shamrock has to break it up.
826
00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:27,395
- Whoa, Ken Shamrock
just took down The Hitman.
827
00:36:27,528 --> 00:36:32,633
- You have this crazy face-off
with Ken Shamrock from the UFC,
828
00:36:32,767 --> 00:36:34,035
and are they going fight?
829
00:36:34,168 --> 00:36:36,904
- Yes, come on, Hitman,
let's see how tough you're now.
830
00:36:37,038 --> 00:36:41,109
That moment was a turning point,
a major turning point
831
00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:43,644
in Bret Hart's career.
832
00:36:43,778 --> 00:36:47,915
- Listen to this chorus of boos
directed at Bret Hart.
833
00:36:48,049 --> 00:36:51,185
- He just turned and walked away
like a coward.
834
00:36:51,319 --> 00:36:52,820
Oh, my goodness.
835
00:36:52,954 --> 00:36:56,824
- Amazing storytelling to think
of how when I walked out
836
00:36:56,958 --> 00:36:59,260
to the ring, and I'm the hero,
then I beat the crap
837
00:36:59,393 --> 00:37:02,230
out of this guy, and leave him
a bloody mess in the ring.
838
00:37:02,363 --> 00:37:06,667
- These fans are livid
at the absence of Bret Hart.
839
00:37:06,801 --> 00:37:09,070
- I'm walking back to the dress
room and you can see everyone
840
00:37:09,203 --> 00:37:11,305
is giving me the finger.
841
00:37:11,439 --> 00:37:13,407
It's like everybody
was turning on me.
842
00:37:13,541 --> 00:37:16,644
All I did was give this guy
what he had coming.
843
00:37:16,777 --> 00:37:18,045
It's kind of like,
if people feel sorry
844
00:37:18,179 --> 00:37:20,114
for the shark in Jaws.
845
00:37:20,248 --> 00:37:23,050
- That point, Bret was just seen
like such a bastard.
846
00:37:23,184 --> 00:37:26,020
Like just, he kicks the guy
while he's down.
847
00:37:26,154 --> 00:37:28,523
- He's going to walk out of here
on his own.
848
00:37:28,656 --> 00:37:32,226
Man's man, I'll tell you that,
whether you like him or not.
849
00:37:32,393 --> 00:37:34,795
- Austin as the hero was well
still getting up and walking
850
00:37:34,929 --> 00:37:35,997
out of the ring.
851
00:37:36,130 --> 00:37:37,298
I think that was like a really
pivotal moment.
852
00:37:37,431 --> 00:37:38,666
- Yes, that's true.
853
00:37:38,799 --> 00:37:40,701
- He wasn't going
to let anyone help him.
854
00:37:40,835 --> 00:37:42,803
- No one could help him.
855
00:37:42,937 --> 00:37:45,706
- The fans are focused
on "Stone Cold" Steve Austin.
856
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:47,241
I'm getting the tingles
in the scalp,
857
00:37:47,375 --> 00:37:49,811
which tells me it was
effective 25 years later.
858
00:37:49,944 --> 00:37:51,646
It still makes my head tingle,
859
00:37:51,779 --> 00:37:56,684
because you got to appreciate
this guy, he's a warrior.
860
00:37:56,817 --> 00:37:59,053
He is one of the best
to ever do it.
861
00:37:59,187 --> 00:38:02,456
[crowd chanting "Austin"]
862
00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:05,660
- Because of the way the
psychology of the match flowed,
863
00:38:05,793 --> 00:38:07,528
I went in as the bad guy.
864
00:38:07,662 --> 00:38:10,865
He went in as a good guy,
by the time it was over,
865
00:38:10,998 --> 00:38:12,833
he came out the bad guy.
866
00:38:12,967 --> 00:38:14,969
I came out
somewhat the good guy.
867
00:38:15,102 --> 00:38:16,604
That is a double turn.
868
00:38:16,737 --> 00:38:19,006
That is one of the hardest
things to ever do
869
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:21,309
in the business
of sports entertainment.
870
00:38:21,442 --> 00:38:26,247
That night it was pulled off at
perfection at WrestleMania 13.
871
00:38:27,582 --> 00:38:30,218
- To take one guy,
who's this Canadian hero,
872
00:38:30,351 --> 00:38:33,054
and this total anti-hero
and switch them,
873
00:38:33,187 --> 00:38:34,989
make one a babyface
and make one a heel.
874
00:38:35,122 --> 00:38:39,627
It shows you how good these two
guys were, and we were sitting
875
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,096
in the back watching
this thing going,
876
00:38:42,230 --> 00:38:44,966
"Man, this is Shakespeare
at its finest."
877
00:38:45,099 --> 00:38:46,634
- It was a piece of art.
878
00:38:46,767 --> 00:38:48,736
If you talk about great
WrestleMania matches
879
00:38:48,869 --> 00:38:53,307
through the years, to me,
I feel like Hogan and Andre,
880
00:38:53,441 --> 00:38:55,810
Shawn and Taker,
and then I think there's
881
00:38:55,943 --> 00:38:59,347
Bret and Steve
at WrestleMania 13.
882
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,148
- It goes back to what I keep
saying is that,
883
00:39:01,282 --> 00:39:02,650
it was like a school fight.
884
00:39:02,783 --> 00:39:04,552
I remember at a particular
school fight,
885
00:39:04,685 --> 00:39:07,688
where there was one kid that was
like a babyface and another kid
886
00:39:07,822 --> 00:39:09,590
that was like a heel.
887
00:39:09,724 --> 00:39:11,926
I remember the guy
that was the babyface
888
00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:13,494
end up winning the fight.
889
00:39:13,628 --> 00:39:15,897
I remember in that fight
going to school the next day
890
00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:17,431
and talking to friends
and stuff.
891
00:39:17,565 --> 00:39:19,800
Everybody was
on the bad guy's side.
892
00:39:19,934 --> 00:39:22,770
Everybody liked the bad guy for
losing and the good guy, the guy
893
00:39:22,903 --> 00:39:25,973
that won, everybody stayed
away from him,
894
00:39:26,107 --> 00:39:28,309
and shunned him a little bit.
895
00:39:28,442 --> 00:39:31,512
When I actually take
that lousy stinking hyena,
896
00:39:31,646 --> 00:39:35,016
"Stone Cold" Steven Austin
beat him to a bloody pulp,
897
00:39:35,149 --> 00:39:37,818
you somehow find it in your
hearts to abandon me
898
00:39:37,952 --> 00:39:40,354
and cheer for him.
899
00:39:40,488 --> 00:39:45,159
I remember just thinking like,
"Wow, it's so much similar the
900
00:39:45,293 --> 00:39:48,896
psychology of it, was just
amazing to see it play out."
901
00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:51,899
All you American wrestling fans
coast-to-coast,
902
00:39:52,033 --> 00:39:54,068
you don't respect me.
903
00:39:54,201 --> 00:39:59,173
Well, the fact is,
I don't respect you.
904
00:39:59,307 --> 00:40:01,509
- For Bret, it allowed him go
into some territory
905
00:40:01,642 --> 00:40:03,377
he hadn't been in, in a while.
906
00:40:03,511 --> 00:40:05,313
Allowed him to be a bad guy.
907
00:40:05,446 --> 00:40:10,318
- One of these days, I'm going
to look down at your grave,
908
00:40:10,451 --> 00:40:14,722
and it's going to say, "Here
lies Bret "The Hitman" Hart,
909
00:40:14,855 --> 00:40:16,524
that biggest piece of crap that
910
00:40:16,657 --> 00:40:18,726
ever walked the
face of the earth."
911
00:40:18,859 --> 00:40:20,895
- For Steve Austin, it's like,
912
00:40:21,028 --> 00:40:23,197
"All right, the sky is the
limit."
913
00:40:23,331 --> 00:40:25,933
- The Austin Era has begun.
914
00:40:26,067 --> 00:40:30,137
Stone Cold's eight-year
journey has been culminated
915
00:40:30,271 --> 00:40:32,540
with WWE gold.
916
00:40:32,673 --> 00:40:38,312
- Bret, as his foe really served
as the person who allowed fans
917
00:40:38,446 --> 00:40:43,451
to take Steve Austin to be just
as good as he was.
918
00:40:49,357 --> 00:40:51,392
- I thought it was
sexy the other way.
919
00:40:51,525 --> 00:40:52,660
[laughs]
920
00:40:52,793 --> 00:40:56,097
- It's always nice
to hear that.
921
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:58,165
We're actually pretty good
friends, and we've always
922
00:40:58,299 --> 00:41:00,401
been good friends.
923
00:41:00,534 --> 00:41:01,335
- He's a good guy.
924
00:41:01,469 --> 00:41:03,237
Hands down, I love him.
925
00:41:03,371 --> 00:41:04,572
- I've had Steve text me and go,
926
00:41:04,705 --> 00:41:07,842
"I'm watching our match
WrestleMania 13 right now."
927
00:41:07,975 --> 00:41:09,343
- Neither individual,
I don't believe will ever
928
00:41:09,477 --> 00:41:11,779
be the same after this match.
929
00:41:11,912 --> 00:41:14,515
- I don't know how many times
I've dug out that tape and
930
00:41:14,648 --> 00:41:16,717
that match, and put it on,
and I always walked out
931
00:41:16,851 --> 00:41:18,819
of the room like I was
the king of the world.
932
00:41:18,953 --> 00:41:20,888
- Bret's one of the best I've
ever worked with,
933
00:41:21,021 --> 00:41:22,990
and the biggest thing
with Bret and I,
934
00:41:23,124 --> 00:41:25,559
is we always
trusted each other.
935
00:41:25,693 --> 00:41:27,895
It was a bond and a brotherhood.
936
00:41:28,029 --> 00:41:29,764
From the bottom of the heart,
I want to thank you
937
00:41:29,897 --> 00:41:31,866
for everything that you've done
for me and my career,
938
00:41:31,999 --> 00:41:35,369
and I've always looked up to
you, admired your work,
939
00:41:35,503 --> 00:41:38,472
and it was always a pleasure
to be in the ring with you.
940
00:41:38,606 --> 00:41:40,508
- If you like
Holyfield and Tyson,
941
00:41:40,641 --> 00:41:42,643
you're going to love this.
942
00:41:42,777 --> 00:41:46,013
- It was two of the greatest
stars of their era at their very
943
00:41:46,147 --> 00:41:49,250
best, bringing out the best
in each other.
944
00:41:49,383 --> 00:41:50,818
- This is a war.
945
00:41:50,951 --> 00:41:54,321
- We were very compatible,
went together like two plugs.
946
00:41:54,455 --> 00:41:56,190
It was perfect.
947
00:41:56,323 --> 00:41:58,159
- We brought out the best
in each other
948
00:41:58,292 --> 00:42:00,261
and it was reality based.
949
00:42:00,394 --> 00:42:02,897
If you put the letter S
in front of Hitman,
950
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:06,567
you've had my exact
opinion of Bret Hart.
951
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:09,136
- Man, the fans were
so into this rivalry.
952
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:10,871
They loved Bret Hart
at the time.
953
00:42:11,005 --> 00:42:13,207
They hated Stone Cold
at the time,
954
00:42:13,340 --> 00:42:16,377
and it lasted so long that it
even switched over
955
00:42:16,510 --> 00:42:18,212
[chuckles] at the end.
956
00:42:18,345 --> 00:42:21,348
- I don't think anyone else
around that time period
957
00:42:21,482 --> 00:42:24,351
could have made
Steve the way Bret did.
958
00:42:24,485 --> 00:42:26,787
- Renee, did Steve
pull you over to the dark side
959
00:42:26,921 --> 00:42:28,189
when this story was over?
960
00:42:28,322 --> 00:42:29,523
- Hell, yes, he did.
961
00:42:29,657 --> 00:42:31,125
[laughter]
962
00:42:31,258 --> 00:42:32,827
- Steve would've always been a
a big star here
963
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,628
regardless of
what happened with me.
964
00:42:34,762 --> 00:42:36,797
But I'd like to think
that I held the--
965
00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:38,099
Opened the door for him.
966
00:42:38,232 --> 00:42:41,902
- He was of paramount
importance to my career.
967
00:42:42,036 --> 00:42:44,605
Without Bret, I don't think
you got Stone Cold.
968
00:42:44,738 --> 00:42:47,441
Propose a toast to
the best there is,
969
00:42:47,575 --> 00:42:50,244
the best there was,
and the best there ever will be.
970
00:42:50,377 --> 00:42:52,079
Thank you for coming down
to The Broken Skull Sessions,
971
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and that's the bottom line,
because Stone Cold said so.
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Cheers.
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- Cheers.
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