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- Now Piper, it’s your turn to
feel what Hulkamania feels like
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coming down heavy on you,
brother.
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- Hulk Hogan was the greatest
protagonist you can have
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and Roddy Piper was
the greatest antagonist
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you can possibly have.
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- This Hulkamania is going
wild all over the place.
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- Piper was the opposite
of Hulk Hogan.
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He was the bad boy.
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- Look out.
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- I had no idea where
it was going go
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my when he was on screen.
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- Roddy Piper’s
just gone bananas.
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- There was legitimate
heat between me and Piper.
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I think it was detrimental
to us really moving forward.
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Oh, my God, I was ready
to have a nervous breakdown.
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It was always a war.
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- Oh, what a shootout,
ladies and gentlemen.
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- I’m not a bad guy,
okay?
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I’m the reason you got no hair.
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- We haven’t had our last dance.
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- I’m the only guy you have
never been able to beat.
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[crowd cheers]
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- This rivalry has just
escalated into a war.
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- When two legends collide,
their rivalry stays pinned
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in our minds forever.
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This is where we break down
the legendary stories behind
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the greatest rivalries
of all time.
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I’m Freddie Prinze Jr.,
and this is WWE Rivals.
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- You do not throw rocks at a
man who’s got a machine gun.
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- We’re going way back in time
on this one,
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and we’re going
to the early ’80s.
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It was good guy and bad guy.
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It was a simple story
and it was the birth
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of a beautiful rivalry.
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It was with Hulk Hogan,
who everyone believed in,
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and it was one of the greatest
heels of all time,
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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- Piper was an icon
in the business.
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Those two figures,
just bigger than life.
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- They’re so different,
but both of them had
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definitely crossed over into
mainstream popularity.
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- It was the birth of
WrestleMania,
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it was the birth of MTV,
it was the birth of Pop Culture
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sort of, as we know it.
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Everything’s on the line.
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- There was this unwritten
sort of rule within the
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wrestling industry that people
owned certain territories,
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and there was this gentleman
sort of agreement I guess that
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you didn’t go into the other
guys territory.
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- You could work
six months in Florida,
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six months in California,
six months in Portland,
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six months in Texas.
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I wrestled in the AWA
for like three years,
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and I had the Hulkamania
thing figured out.
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I was selling t-shirts,
merchandise, headbands.
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Started to Hollywood
it up a little bit.
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Really just defining that
character and really getting
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it dialed in.
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- Flying leg smash.
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One, two, and three,
and he got him.
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[bell rings]
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- When you’re on a roll and
when you think positive,
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sometimes overconfidence
can work for you.
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I know sooner or later,
my time is going to come.
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- In this timeframe,
as cable TV is coming along,
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Vince sees that cable TV coming
and he realizes national
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expansion in front
of the world is happening.
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- One day, we hope to be
recognized as the premier source
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of sports entertainment
in the world today.
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- He saw advertising.
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He saw Hollywood.
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He saw everything that
WWE could be and more.
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- Hello, everyone.
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Welcome to
All American Wrestling.
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and indeed this week--
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- As soon as
Vince had that cable signal,
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to infinity and beyond.
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There was nowhere that Vince
couldn’t go with his vision
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and what he wanted to do.
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He now had the vehicle
to get there and do
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what needed to be done.
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- Because of their
nationwide audience,
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the World Wrestling -- has been
able to create coast-to-coast,
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heroes and villains.
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- My dad recognized that America
needed a hero they could believe
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in, and he took one look at Hulk
Hogan and knew that
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that was the hero that that
needed to be the beacon for fans
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all over the world.
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- And the next thing I knew,
Vince McMahon came to my house
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and he pretty much laid his
vision out of the WWE becoming
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an international phenomenon.
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You know, taking over the whole
world with the WWE.
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- The recognized symbol of
excellence in sports
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entertainment.
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- Took me about two seconds to
say, "I’m in."
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- Oh, you got to be kidding.
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You have got to be kidding me.
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The Incredible Hulk Hogan.
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Look at that.
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That’s 300 pounds of all
muscle in there right now.
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[crowd chanting: "Hogan"]
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- When I came to work for the
WWE and for the McMahons,
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I had no idea what kind of
momentum we were going to get.
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Vince wanted Hulkamania to run
wild, and the rest is history.
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- Hulk Hogan, and he drops
the big leg on him.
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He’s down for the cover,
hooked the leg.
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One, two, he’s got him.
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[crowd cheers]
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- The fans are on their feet.
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Hulkamania is here.
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- I feel the energy.
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Hulkamania is running worldwide.
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I felt everyone standing
behind me all the way,
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and it felt great.
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- Hulk Hogan, for me,
was comic book come to life.
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I couldn’t fully grasp it.
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From my little kid brain,
it was just everything awesome.
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[laughing]
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- I’ve been training and saying
my prayers and eating
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my vitamins.
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Everywhere I go, man,
the people are training
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in the parking lots,
posing in the gym.
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Hulkamania’s running wild
all over the world.
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Every time I step in the ring,
it’s like there’s a thousand
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people stepping
in there with me.
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A thousand Hulkamaniacs.
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- Have a nice -- day.
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Go -- yourself.
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Give me the microphone,
get out of my way.
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- From Glasgow, Scotland,
weighing 232 pounds,
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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[bell rings]
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- Roddy Piper first made
a name for himself outside
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of the WWE in the Mid-Atlantic
and Portland territories.
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Right around 1984, Vince McMahon
realized that Roddy Piper was
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the guy that he wanted
to be his main antagonist.
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- This week you have the
opportunity to see someone
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that’s a very,
very special guest.
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The most intelligent man that
I have ever met my entire life.
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A man who takes things
into his own hands,
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a man who gets things done.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
I would like to introduce
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to you at this time, myself.
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- Piper was the opposite
of Hulk Hogan.
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He was the bad boy.
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- Ladies-- No, we’re in
New York aren’t we?
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There ain’t none of those here.
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Let me see if I can
get this straight.
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People, people--
That wasn’t bad, huh?
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People of New York.
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- To me, Roddy felt dangerous,
and that’s why I couldn’t take
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my eyes off him.
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I had no idea where it was going
to go when he was on my screen.
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And there was something really,
really exciting
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and also scary about that.
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- Hulk was red, white, and blue,
and doing everything right.
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Roddy Piper was just cynical,
just really nasty, evil man
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that despised everything
that Hulk Hogan stood for.
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- All of a sudden this
Hulkamania is going wild
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all over the place,
and he’s becoming a legend.
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- There was legitimate heat
between me and Piper.
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Well, you know something, Piper?
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I didn’t know how low
a man could go,
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but you’ve hit the bottom,
brother.
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Piper wanted
the Hulk Hogan spot.
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That’s the nature of this
business, is to be the number
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one guy and to be the champ,
and it was very verbal that
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you know,
Piper didn’t like me.
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I mean, really didn’t like me.
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Wrestling was approaching
fever pitch at that time.
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Piper and Hogan were the two
hottest wrestlers in the WWE.
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- Everywhere you go,
everybody is talking about
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Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper.
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- That’s when MTV got in it.
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- Hulk Hogan, Cyndi Lauper,
David Wolff,
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and Capt. Lou Albano
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Woo-ha.
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- In 1984, some of the WWE
superstars started appearing
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on MTV, while at the same time
some of the heaviest hitters
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in the music industry started
appearing on WWE shows.
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- I have gold and platinum
record to give to the World
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Wrestling -- and the fans.
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- Cyndi Lauper
showing her appreciation.
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Presenting
the gold and platinum
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record to
the World Wrestling --.
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- Roddy Piper at the time,
his character was very
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anti-Rock ’n’ Roll,
you know, anti-fun.
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- I want to present you a gift.
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- Oh, look out.
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Capt. Lou Albano clobbered.
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Look at Roddy Piper
just going bananas.
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David Wolff trying to come to
the rescue, but he’s no match.
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Oh, he piledrives him right down
into the canvas.
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Roddy Piper’s gotten crazy here.
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- I had kicked the female
vocalist of the year,
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Cyndi Lauper, in the head.
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I tortured Hogan.
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- The future of professional
wrestling is me.
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The future of Rock ’n’ Roll
is down the toilet.
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- Vince was always looking for
outside things
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to help bring new eyes,
and MTV was one of them.
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We get the Rock ’n’ Wrestling,
which will never be used again,
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that term, but it was so perfect
for the ’80s.
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- The Rock ’n’ Wrestling
Connection, our reputation’s
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at stake, and I’m going to take
care of it.
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What you going to do when the
wired up Hulkster is running
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wild on you, Piper?
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- The Rock ’n’ Wrestling
Connection was a marketing tool
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utilized by WWE and MTV to
promote each other’s stars.
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- You’re seeing your favorite
wrestlers on TV, and you’re
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seeing them with these rock
stars, and you’re seeing them
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with Cyndi Lauper.
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All of a sudden, this became
mainstream popular.
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- Hulk is going to put you down,
man.
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He going to put you down so low,
you’re going to have to
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look up to see your skirt.
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- MTV was so invested in the
Rock ’n’ Wrestling Connection
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that they put together
their own WWE event.
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It was the show that featured
the first match between
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Hulk Hogan and Roddy Piper.
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- Two proud men with such
different viewpoints,
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backgrounds.
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It seems written in the stars
that ultimately these two men
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would clash someday.
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- This was the inception point.
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The psychology of these
two men and the ability to tell
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their story all started
at this moment.
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- Tonight, ladies and gentlemen,
The War to Settle the Score.
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We’ve talked about it.
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The Rock ’n’ Wrestling
Connection,
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the hottest ticket in town,
the biggest and the best.
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And tonight on MTV live,
ladies and gentlemen,
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Hulk Hogan with the title
defense against challenger,
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Oh, they’re at it.
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[bell rings]
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- 23,000 strong, not a one
of them in their seats.
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Everybody on their feet.
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The Rock ’n’ Wrestling
Connection.
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- The War to Settle the Score,
it was a whole
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different electricity,
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[bell ringing]
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but there was
no teamwork whatsoever,
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because the plan was to take
over the world with Hogan.
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In the plan, you forgot that
it takes two to tango.
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That’s when things really
elevated as far as animosity.
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- Whenever I went in there
against Piper,
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it was always a war.
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I used to beat
the -- out of him,
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and he’d give it
right back to me.
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You had to take what
you can get in there.
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[crowd cheers]
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- Oh, what a shootout,
ladies and gentlemen.
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I cannot believe it.
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- And Orton down to where
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- Orton heads
to the locker room
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- The War to Settle the Score,
I just remember like it feeling
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like chaos, and it really felt
like New York was going to come
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over that barricade
at any second.
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- Look out.
Orndorff.
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- Wait a minute.
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Oh, come on.
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Come on, he’s never--
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- Orndoff going up to the top.
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- Oh, please.
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- Look out.
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- Oh, you got to be kidding me.
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Please.
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Here comes Mr. T,
ladies and gentlemen.
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- When I first jumped in the
ring, it was wild.
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It’s the only thing
that I can say.
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It was just wild.
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- Listen to this.
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- Look at these two.
Piper doesn’t know what to do.
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- Hogan getting a clean pinfall
or submission would’ve been
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the most satisfying way
to conclude the match,
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but unfortunately,
that didn’t happen.
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- There was still that
old-school mentality
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to protect myself.
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Back then, he didn’t want
to put me over,
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and that’s why the finish
was screwed up.
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[bell rings]
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- The winner of this bout as
a result of a disqualification,
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Hulk Hogan.
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[crowd cheers]
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[bell rings]
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- Typically a disqualification
in a match in the form
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of storytelling leaves
a very unclear,
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unsatisfying closure
to that story.
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- Hogan was
the face of the business,
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and I agree he should’ve been,
but everybody was butting heads.
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Only way this guy holds this
title is he has this stupid guy
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with some ridiculous haircut.
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All of a sudden, all these
people are flooding the ring.
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If you ain’t got enough guts to
fight me one-on-one, mister,
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then take a hike and leave
the title with me.
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- Now we’ve got MTV on our side.
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New demo, new kids,
new audience plugged in.
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It was just like throwing big
tanks of gas on the fire.
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We knew once MTV got on board,
this thing was going
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to be a monster.
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- Anytime you need me,
I’ll be there, brother,
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because you my man.
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I think you’re the greatest
heavyweight wrestler
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there’s been, man.
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- It was great to see Mr. T come
in there and help the Hulk.
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I mean, it was incredible.
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- In the mid-’80s, Mr. T was a
huge star, celebrity, actor,
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household name.
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and so the WWE brought him
in to elevate
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the Hulk Hogan and
Roddy Piper rivalry.
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- That’s why the Rock ’n’
Wrestling Connection
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was so cool, because it was like
a blend of what was hot.
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- It was hot.
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- Yes.
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- That was the beginning of
Hollywood transforming over to
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professional wrestling, opposed
to professional wrestling
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wanting you know
to be Hollywood.
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- That brings us
to WrestleMania number one,
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which was a spectacle,
to say the least.
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- The biggest wrestling
extravaganza of all time.
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That big tag team match,
Mr. Controversy,
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"Rowdy" Roddy Piper and
"Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff
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with "Ace Cowboy" Bob Orton
in their corner to meet,
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World Wrestling -- Heavyweight
champ Hulk Hogan
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and his partner, Mr. T.
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- Vince being the pioneer that
he is, he said, "Wow, we going
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to broaden and bring
it to the world."
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So you got Cyndi Lauper there,
you got the MTV crowd,
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you got Mr. T from the A-Team.
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That audience say,
"Hey, now."
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People say,
"Wow. Mr. T, you’re
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going to be in wrestling.
Oh, wow,"
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but now you’re
bringing in the world to it.
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- It was a roll of the dice
by Vince McMahon.
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I mean, he’s trying to take over
the world at this point.
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He mortgaged his home.
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He got everything into this.
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This had to be a success.
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00:16:22,491 --> 00:16:23,921
- The whole world knows
about this man.
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Hulk Hogan and Mr. T
start to train.
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- The dream team, man.
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The dream team.
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- The dream team.
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Check this out, dude.
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00:16:31,033 --> 00:16:31,663
Check that out.
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00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:32,437
Check that out.
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[laughs]
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- Oh, man.
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00:16:34,236 --> 00:16:34,936
- There you go.
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00:16:35,037 --> 00:16:35,877
Just keep it moving.
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Go on, T.
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00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:38,539
- I had been brought up
old old school.
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If you bring me somebody
outside our business,
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I’m going to eat his lunch.
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00:16:43,646 --> 00:16:46,756
The children of America today
must be sick to look at
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someone--
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00:16:47,783 --> 00:16:49,953
Hey, Hey, Hey.
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00:16:50,052 --> 00:16:51,622
- Mr. T ain’t no powder puff.
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00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,350
You got to understand, you know
but I guess his ego would say,
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00:16:55,457 --> 00:16:56,927
"Okay, we can’t let
this come in."
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00:16:57,026 --> 00:17:00,096
I guess that’s why you had sour
grapes going around.
364
00:17:00,195 --> 00:17:02,805
- Roddy was very protective
of the business.
365
00:17:02,898 --> 00:17:05,328
When it came to wrestling,
he was a very serious guy
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00:17:05,434 --> 00:17:06,704
and took his job very serious,
and that’s why
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00:17:06,802 --> 00:17:08,772
he was as good as he was.
368
00:17:08,871 --> 00:17:11,771
- It was kind of left to
Hulk Hogan to kind of
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be the go-between,
between
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Roddy Piper and Mr. T,
allowing this high stake
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story to be told.
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00:17:21,116 --> 00:17:24,226
- Wrestlers at the time didn’t
have the mindset to understand
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how big this was going to be,
and my focus was on trying to
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00:17:26,522 --> 00:17:28,822
to keep this thing together.
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00:17:28,924 --> 00:17:30,124
Please don’t run this guy off.
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00:17:30,225 --> 00:17:31,625
Please don’t hurt him.
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00:17:31,727 --> 00:17:32,967
- I’ll tell you.
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00:17:33,062 --> 00:17:35,492
You mess with me, T, I’ll put an
X on your name, brother.
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00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:40,236
- The World Wrestling --
presents the wrestling
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extravaganza of all time,
WrestleMania.
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00:17:46,775 --> 00:17:48,445
- These were the two guys that
hooked me on this thing,
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and now they’re each other’s
greatest rival.
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00:17:51,313 --> 00:17:55,913
Now they’re the pieces to
putting this thing
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on the national map.
385
00:17:59,054 --> 00:18:02,494
- Everything was on the line
that night in WrestleMania.
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00:18:02,591 --> 00:18:04,961
I knew that Vince had given
everything he had.
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00:18:05,060 --> 00:18:07,530
His whole life was betting on
that one night,
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00:18:07,630 --> 00:18:11,000
and I knew we’d better put on
the best show we could and
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00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,530
tear the roof off the Garden.
390
00:18:15,104 --> 00:18:17,574
- 25,000 plus on their feet.
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00:18:17,673 --> 00:18:20,443
The electricity is unbelievable.
392
00:18:20,542 --> 00:18:21,342
- I’m pumped up.
393
00:18:21,443 --> 00:18:22,673
I’m pumped up.
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00:18:22,778 --> 00:18:25,488
WrestleMania, the greatest
of wrestling history
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00:18:25,581 --> 00:18:26,711
is taking place right now.
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00:18:26,815 --> 00:18:28,555
Right now.
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00:18:34,123 --> 00:18:35,623
- With the inception
of WrestleMania 1,
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it wasn’t just wrestling fans
that were watching,
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00:18:38,260 --> 00:18:41,560
it was people that watched MTV
that will bring those two worlds
400
00:18:41,664 --> 00:18:43,964
together, and it feels even
cooler and more magnified
401
00:18:44,066 --> 00:18:45,506
than ever before.
402
00:18:45,601 --> 00:18:48,771
That really brought in a whole
different demographic to WWE.
403
00:18:50,072 --> 00:18:52,572
- When you get in the Garden,
brother, it’s like the Roman
404
00:18:52,675 --> 00:18:54,615
Coliseum for wrestlers,
and I’ve been there
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00:18:54,710 --> 00:18:56,640
a million times already.
406
00:18:56,745 --> 00:19:00,885
But for WrestleMania, whoa,
goosebumps as big as pimples
407
00:19:00,983 --> 00:19:02,183
all over my arms.
408
00:19:02,284 --> 00:19:04,454
What is going on in here?
409
00:19:04,553 --> 00:19:07,153
The people knew
the wrestling business
410
00:19:07,256 --> 00:19:08,956
was changing that night.
411
00:19:09,058 --> 00:19:11,998
That was the highest
vibration I’ve ever felt.
412
00:19:12,094 --> 00:19:15,634
- The Garden was just so packed.
413
00:19:15,731 --> 00:19:18,061
I mean, God, what a show.
414
00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:21,607
- It all hinges on Hulk Hogan
and Roddy Piper.
415
00:19:21,704 --> 00:19:26,244
Yes, Cyndi and Mr. T,
but without those two,
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00:19:26,341 --> 00:19:28,811
quite possibly be an
entirely different conversation
417
00:19:28,911 --> 00:19:33,081
we’re having or maybe we’re not
having this conversation.
418
00:19:33,649 --> 00:19:36,149
- When I came up at the ring,
I pointed right at him
419
00:19:36,251 --> 00:19:37,721
as soon as I get in there.
420
00:19:37,820 --> 00:19:38,620
I knew he was lit.
421
00:19:38,721 --> 00:19:40,291
I knew he was ready.
422
00:19:40,389 --> 00:19:42,819
I said, "We’re having a war
tonight, boys."
423
00:19:42,925 --> 00:19:45,365
- Look at the look
on Piper’s face.
424
00:19:45,461 --> 00:19:48,131
- The fans are chanting "T, T,
T," and they’re going
425
00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:49,030
nose to nose.
426
00:19:49,131 --> 00:19:50,401
- Look at nose to nose.
427
00:19:50,499 --> 00:19:52,829
Mr. T and "Rowdy" Roddy Piper
nose-to-nose
428
00:19:52,935 --> 00:19:55,235
in the center of the ring.
429
00:19:55,337 --> 00:19:59,877
- Oh, a slap across the face,
and a return slap by Mr. T.
430
00:20:00,776 --> 00:20:01,546
Look at this.
431
00:20:01,643 --> 00:20:02,913
They’re exchanging slaps.
432
00:20:03,011 --> 00:20:04,141
Wow, Piper now-
433
00:20:04,246 --> 00:20:05,516
- Piper caught him.
434
00:20:05,614 --> 00:20:07,514
- -goes behind quickly,
takes him down to the canvas.
435
00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:11,780
- I was still trying to protect
Mr. T, so that Orndorff
436
00:20:11,887 --> 00:20:13,557
and Piper wouldn’t
break him in half.
437
00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,925
They were really having
a problem with each other.
438
00:20:16,024 --> 00:20:19,094
I’m here in the middle trying
to be like the mother goose
439
00:20:19,194 --> 00:20:20,534
between all these guys.
440
00:20:20,629 --> 00:20:21,889
I’m like, "Oh, my God."
441
00:20:21,997 --> 00:20:23,667
I was ready to have
a nervous breakdown
442
00:20:23,766 --> 00:20:25,036
- Here comes the Hulk.
443
00:20:25,134 --> 00:20:26,834
- And all four of them are going
at it in the corner,
444
00:20:26,935 --> 00:20:28,175
and it’s chaos already.
445
00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,470
- Pat Patterson.
446
00:20:29,571 --> 00:20:31,141
- We’re getting chaos five
minutes into the match,
447
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,740
Gino Monsoon.
448
00:20:32,841 --> 00:20:35,011
- Piper giving us a sign
for timeout here.
449
00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:36,680
They’re headed
for the dressing room, Jess.
450
00:20:36,779 --> 00:20:38,179
- I don’t believe that.
451
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,010
Hulk Hogan saying, "No way,"
to the referee Pat Patterson.
452
00:20:41,116 --> 00:20:43,256
He says get them back in the
ring, and here they come.
453
00:20:43,352 --> 00:20:44,052
- Here they come.
454
00:20:44,153 --> 00:20:45,023
- Rodd Piper and
455
00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,650
"Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff.
456
00:20:47,756 --> 00:20:50,596
- Piper, he won’t overpower with
muscles and all that stuff,
457
00:20:50,692 --> 00:20:51,992
but he knew the game.
458
00:20:52,094 --> 00:20:54,564
He could wrestle and
he could be tough.
459
00:20:54,663 --> 00:20:56,733
He was tough.
460
00:20:56,832 --> 00:20:58,262
- Look out.
461
00:20:58,367 --> 00:21:02,137
- Without a great antagonist,
the protagonist means nothing.
462
00:21:02,237 --> 00:21:04,807
And if Hulk didn’t have
Roddy Piper to play off of,
463
00:21:04,907 --> 00:21:07,717
I don’t know how
big it would’ve been.
464
00:21:07,810 --> 00:21:09,140
- This place is sold out.
465
00:21:09,244 --> 00:21:10,744
It’s the hottest ticket in town.
466
00:21:10,846 --> 00:21:15,586
We had closed-circuit television
mainstream media everywhere.
467
00:21:15,684 --> 00:21:18,624
- The reason they came to
WrestleMania was to see
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00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,290
me get my butt kicked.
469
00:21:21,390 --> 00:21:22,990
It was crazy.
470
00:21:23,091 --> 00:21:24,491
- Full Nelson now.
471
00:21:24,593 --> 00:21:26,863
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper,
double team,
472
00:21:26,962 --> 00:21:28,532
maybe triple team effort here.
473
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:33,130
Oh, nice save by Mr. T as Piper
was about to-
474
00:21:33,235 --> 00:21:34,635
Oh look out.
475
00:21:34,736 --> 00:21:35,706
- Oh, Paul Orndorff.
476
00:21:35,804 --> 00:21:36,604
Unbelievable.
477
00:21:36,705 --> 00:21:37,975
- With the cast.
478
00:21:38,073 --> 00:21:38,943
Going for the cover.
479
00:21:39,041 --> 00:21:40,371
Pat Patterson.
480
00:21:40,475 --> 00:21:41,845
He got him.
481
00:21:41,944 --> 00:21:42,714
- They got him.
482
00:21:42,811 --> 00:21:49,721
[crowd cheers]
483
00:21:49,818 --> 00:21:50,678
- Unbelievable.
484
00:21:50,786 --> 00:21:54,426
Pandemonium here in the Garden.
485
00:21:54,523 --> 00:21:57,423
- One of the unique things
about this rivalry is the way
486
00:21:57,526 --> 00:22:00,296
Piper would lose.
487
00:22:00,395 --> 00:22:02,035
He didn’t want to.
488
00:22:02,130 --> 00:22:04,130
The protection of his
character was very,
489
00:22:04,233 --> 00:22:06,103
very important to the man.
490
00:22:06,201 --> 00:22:07,771
- Oh, he hit Orndorff.
491
00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:10,440
- Of course, now this gives
privilege for Piper to now
492
00:22:10,539 --> 00:22:12,969
blame Orton for the loss.
493
00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:14,845
- It’s never Piper’s fault.
494
00:22:14,943 --> 00:22:16,443
- No, it’s never Piper’s fault.
495
00:22:16,545 --> 00:22:18,745
- It’s never Piper’s fault.
496
00:22:18,847 --> 00:22:23,087
- And the winners of the main
event, Hulk Hogan and Mr. T.
497
00:22:23,185 --> 00:22:26,155
[crowd cheers]
498
00:22:26,255 --> 00:22:27,895
- And look at the champ.
499
00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:30,190
The greatest representation
in the world of professional
500
00:22:30,292 --> 00:22:33,892
wrestling, champ, Hulk Hogan.
501
00:22:34,897 --> 00:22:37,367
- Roddy was a guy that was
pretty strong on his position in
502
00:22:37,466 --> 00:22:40,276
the sense that he wasn’t going
to just lay down for Hogan.
503
00:22:40,369 --> 00:22:43,239
He protected himself.
504
00:22:43,338 --> 00:22:46,298
- You had to hit with the cast,
to get somebody to stay down.
505
00:22:46,408 --> 00:22:48,438
Premier event like WrestleMania,
you want a clean
506
00:22:48,543 --> 00:22:50,283
winner and loser.
507
00:22:50,379 --> 00:22:52,639
Everybody at Madison Square
Garden, all the way around
508
00:22:52,748 --> 00:22:56,258
the world, now you know
what it’s all about, brother.
509
00:22:56,351 --> 00:22:59,551
- But you know,
I’m not a bad guy, okay?
510
00:22:59,655 --> 00:23:01,655
Don’t be judging me here.
511
00:23:01,757 --> 00:23:03,827
It’s a tough business.
512
00:23:03,926 --> 00:23:06,796
How do you stay on top?
513
00:23:06,895 --> 00:23:08,565
- He’s the man
that never got pinned.
514
00:23:08,664 --> 00:23:10,904
I think, because we didn’t
have an outcome,
515
00:23:10,999 --> 00:23:13,629
it was detrimental to us really
moving forward.
516
00:23:13,735 --> 00:23:16,235
So many disqualifications,
so many count outs.
517
00:23:16,338 --> 00:23:19,548
I mean, I think the fans get
tired of seeing that.
518
00:23:19,641 --> 00:23:21,411
Where do you go from there?
519
00:23:27,849 --> 00:23:32,479
- The wrestling extravaganza
of all time, WrestleMania.
520
00:23:32,587 --> 00:23:33,857
As Piper was about to
lower the-
521
00:23:33,956 --> 00:23:34,956
Look out.
522
00:23:35,057 --> 00:23:36,697
- Oh, he hit Orndorff
523
00:23:37,826 --> 00:23:41,196
- Coming off of WrestleMania,
the rivalry between Hulk Hogan
524
00:23:41,296 --> 00:23:44,606
and Roddy Piper kind of
simmered down without
525
00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:50,040
Hulk Hogan ever beating Piper
by pinfall or submission,
526
00:23:50,138 --> 00:23:54,238
which left so much
on the table for fans.
527
00:23:54,343 --> 00:23:57,583
- All in all, WrestleMania it
was a perfect springboard for
528
00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:00,649
what we needed to launch the WWE
into the stratosphere.
529
00:24:00,749 --> 00:24:04,379
We created a huge amount
of positive momentum.
530
00:24:04,486 --> 00:24:08,626
It parlayed into different TV
deals and expanding the horizons
531
00:24:08,724 --> 00:24:11,924
beyond anywhere we’d been.
532
00:24:12,027 --> 00:24:14,937
- Welcome, everyone
to Monday Night Raw.
533
00:24:17,199 --> 00:24:19,599
- But, Vince and myself
and the whole WWE,
534
00:24:19,701 --> 00:24:22,531
we were all sent into
different directions.
535
00:24:22,637 --> 00:24:26,617
Vince was moving to younger
wrestlers at the time,
536
00:24:26,708 --> 00:24:28,438
and it just seemed like the
perfect time for us
537
00:24:28,543 --> 00:24:33,253
to mutually part ways, because I
just wasn’t finished yet.
538
00:24:33,348 --> 00:24:37,048
It made sense to dig in
and try to reinvent myself.
539
00:24:38,353 --> 00:24:42,893
WCW, they were basically
the number two company.
540
00:24:42,991 --> 00:24:46,591
Not even in the same
universe as the WWE.
541
00:24:48,096 --> 00:24:50,736
I figured if there were so many
good wrestlers there,
542
00:24:51,633 --> 00:24:55,433
and if I wanted to work there,
I saw a huge potential.
543
00:24:56,304 --> 00:24:58,574
- The deal was easy.
544
00:24:58,673 --> 00:25:00,243
It was a good fit for him and it
was a good fit for us,
545
00:25:00,342 --> 00:25:02,642
because we needed that
kind of flagship character to
546
00:25:02,744 --> 00:25:05,414
let everybody know that we were
really serious about being a
547
00:25:05,514 --> 00:25:07,254
competitor in the space.
548
00:25:10,452 --> 00:25:14,392
- On their feet,
the Hulkamaniacs.
549
00:25:14,489 --> 00:25:18,559
- His first match in WCW.
550
00:25:18,660 --> 00:25:20,690
- The first night on
pay-per-view,
551
00:25:20,796 --> 00:25:22,766
I won the belt from Ric Flair.
552
00:25:25,667 --> 00:25:27,677
You know, Shaq was at ringside.
553
00:25:27,769 --> 00:25:31,169
Right away, kind of like made
everybody take a double-
554
00:25:31,273 --> 00:25:33,673
whoa, what’s going on over here?
555
00:25:36,511 --> 00:25:39,011
- This guy that every
night would pose.
556
00:25:39,114 --> 00:25:41,414
You had the people
that loved Hulkster.
557
00:25:41,516 --> 00:25:43,056
- Hulk Hogan.
558
00:25:43,151 --> 00:25:44,481
Oh, man, is this going
to be good.
559
00:25:44,586 --> 00:25:46,456
- Yes, sir.
560
00:25:46,555 --> 00:25:50,525
- But, all of a sudden, the act
was getting a little stale.
561
00:25:51,426 --> 00:25:55,236
- I kept going to the buildings,
I didn’t feel that same energy
562
00:25:55,330 --> 00:25:57,700
you know when the
Hulkamania was on track.
563
00:25:57,799 --> 00:26:00,699
I had discussions with
Eric Bischoff about me
564
00:26:00,802 --> 00:26:02,672
turning into a bad guy.
565
00:26:02,771 --> 00:26:05,601
I had seen Scott come in,
I’d seen Kevin come in,
566
00:26:05,707 --> 00:26:08,247
I’ve seen the edge they
put on the bad guy.
567
00:26:09,177 --> 00:26:10,517
- He’s got Nash down.
568
00:26:10,612 --> 00:26:11,112
Savage is--
569
00:26:11,213 --> 00:26:13,353
- Oh, no.
570
00:26:13,448 --> 00:26:15,648
- Hulk Hogan is in the building.
571
00:26:15,750 --> 00:26:16,680
- You’re damn right he is.
572
00:26:16,785 --> 00:26:19,085
- Go get him, Hulkster.
573
00:26:19,187 --> 00:26:21,627
- If I could not be Hulk Hogan,
but if I can do this thing as
574
00:26:21,723 --> 00:26:26,063
Hollywood Hulk Hogan and come
in with a really nasty edge on,
575
00:26:26,161 --> 00:26:28,491
I’ll do it.
576
00:26:28,597 --> 00:26:32,267
- Hulk Hogan has betrayed WCW.
577
00:26:32,367 --> 00:26:37,147
- You can call this the
New World Order of Wrestling,
578
00:26:37,239 --> 00:26:38,769
brother.
579
00:26:38,874 --> 00:26:43,484
All the stuff that was thrown in
in the ring, trash, the bottles,
580
00:26:43,578 --> 00:26:45,378
it pissed some people off.
581
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,910
And I knew that we were
off and running.
582
00:26:48,016 --> 00:26:50,056
- The following announcement has
been paid for by the
583
00:26:50,152 --> 00:26:52,952
New World Order.
584
00:26:53,054 --> 00:26:55,924
- It’s a new era of wrestling,
and man, for him to flip
585
00:26:56,024 --> 00:27:00,964
the switch like that
and go bad guy,
586
00:27:01,062 --> 00:27:03,762
who would’ve thought the
red and yellow would go black?
587
00:27:03,865 --> 00:27:05,465
- Everybody was getting punked.
588
00:27:05,567 --> 00:27:07,737
Everybody was
being disrespected.
589
00:27:07,836 --> 00:27:09,876
- Is there any question now?
590
00:27:09,971 --> 00:27:13,071
What is the powerful
organization
591
00:27:13,175 --> 00:27:16,375
in professional wrestling?
592
00:27:16,478 --> 00:27:19,418
- While Hogan was becoming the
new face of WCW,
593
00:27:19,514 --> 00:27:23,454
Piper continued to work for
WWE both in and out of the ring.
594
00:27:23,552 --> 00:27:26,022
- "Rowdy" Roddy Piper,
595
00:27:26,121 --> 00:27:30,691
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper,
one of the all-time greats
596
00:27:30,792 --> 00:27:33,222
here in the World Wrestling --.
597
00:27:34,362 --> 00:27:35,832
- I’m the reason
Hogan’s got no hair.
598
00:27:35,931 --> 00:27:37,201
I pulled it all out.
599
00:27:37,299 --> 00:27:42,229
I don’t retreat,
and I don’t surrender.
600
00:27:42,337 --> 00:27:43,677
- But there was definitely
some unfinished
601
00:27:43,772 --> 00:27:46,742
business between them.
602
00:27:46,841 --> 00:27:49,711
- We still needed a nemesis,
and it was time to give
603
00:27:49,811 --> 00:27:52,081
WCW a shot in the arm.
604
00:27:52,180 --> 00:27:55,280
- I’m taking over the WCW.
605
00:27:55,383 --> 00:27:59,083
Everybody that gets
in the ring with the
606
00:27:59,187 --> 00:28:05,227
NWO or Hollywood Hulk Hogan
is going down.
607
00:28:05,327 --> 00:28:08,037
[crowd boos]
608
00:28:08,129 --> 00:28:10,099
["Rowdy" Roddy Piper’s music]
609
00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:12,298
- Hey-
610
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:13,030
-what is that?
611
00:28:13,134 --> 00:28:13,834
- What’s this all about?
612
00:28:13,935 --> 00:28:17,045
What’s this music?
613
00:28:17,138 --> 00:28:18,168
- Would you look at this?
614
00:28:18,273 --> 00:28:19,173
[crowd cheers]
615
00:28:19,274 --> 00:28:20,114
- Yes.
616
00:28:20,208 --> 00:28:21,568
You know who that is.
617
00:28:21,676 --> 00:28:24,286
- It’s "Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
618
00:28:25,247 --> 00:28:28,217
- You know, I give credit where
credit’s due with Hogan.
619
00:28:28,316 --> 00:28:30,526
When I hit those bagpipes,
Hogan’s eyes
620
00:28:30,619 --> 00:28:32,819
got pretty big and white.
621
00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:34,451
- You know Eric told me, you
know we have a chance
622
00:28:34,556 --> 00:28:36,226
to bring Piper in.
623
00:28:36,324 --> 00:28:37,524
What do you think?
624
00:28:37,626 --> 00:28:40,196
I said, "Well, we haven’t
had our last dance."
625
00:28:41,096 --> 00:28:45,466
- The business wasn’t finished
for Hogan and Piper.
626
00:28:45,567 --> 00:28:49,507
I’m the only guy that Hogan
didn’t conquer.
627
00:28:51,539 --> 00:28:54,069
- That’s one man
who has haunted Hogan.
628
00:28:54,175 --> 00:28:58,845
He wants no part of
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
629
00:28:58,947 --> 00:29:02,317
- Over 10 years
removed from WrestleMania.
630
00:29:02,417 --> 00:29:06,827
Roddy Piper and Hulk Hogan
finally met again to resolve
631
00:29:06,921 --> 00:29:09,091
unfinished business.
632
00:29:09,190 --> 00:29:11,160
- Why don’t you shut up
for a second?
633
00:29:11,259 --> 00:29:13,189
It’s my turn.
634
00:29:13,995 --> 00:29:20,575
I’m the only guy you
have never been able to beat.
635
00:29:21,703 --> 00:29:23,103
- Piper never lost legitimately.
636
00:29:23,204 --> 00:29:24,474
He never got pinned.
637
00:29:24,572 --> 00:29:28,072
It was either always a
disqualification or a count out.
638
00:29:28,176 --> 00:29:31,546
- Now that I look in your eyes,
maybe we need to have the war
639
00:29:31,646 --> 00:29:33,686
that didn’t settle the score.
640
00:29:37,485 --> 00:29:41,225
- Piper in WCW, there’s going
to be so many more eyes.
641
00:29:41,323 --> 00:29:43,823
This thing could get really,
really big.
642
00:29:43,925 --> 00:29:46,425
It just goes to show you how
smart a guy like
643
00:29:46,528 --> 00:29:49,368
Hogan is to say
"Man, let me just go back
644
00:29:49,464 --> 00:29:50,864
to the drawing board."
645
00:29:52,467 --> 00:29:53,877
[crowd chanting, "Roddy"]
646
00:29:53,968 --> 00:29:56,168
- We trying to reverse roles
at this point in history.
647
00:29:56,271 --> 00:30:00,041
Now, Piper was the good guy
and up as the evil guy.
648
00:30:00,141 --> 00:30:01,641
Hogan can’t beat Piper
by himself.
649
00:30:01,743 --> 00:30:03,843
He’s got have three or four
people hurt Piper.
650
00:30:03,945 --> 00:30:07,255
It added another dimension to
the Piper character,
651
00:30:07,349 --> 00:30:10,449
because now he was against
insurmountable odds.
652
00:30:10,552 --> 00:30:14,322
You know something,
Piper, you’re a loser fighting
653
00:30:14,422 --> 00:30:16,422
a losing battle.
654
00:30:16,524 --> 00:30:19,694
- Roddy being Roddy was such
a phenomenal performer.
655
00:30:19,794 --> 00:30:22,734
He knew what that history
meant to those fans.
656
00:30:22,831 --> 00:30:25,361
- Come on, get out here, Hogan.
657
00:30:25,467 --> 00:30:27,007
Let’s get it done.
658
00:30:27,102 --> 00:30:32,202
I’m going for the Fight of the
Century and who the icon is.
659
00:30:32,307 --> 00:30:35,577
- When you were
my equal 10 years ago,
660
00:30:35,677 --> 00:30:37,947
you couldn’t get it done.
661
00:30:38,046 --> 00:30:38,746
- There it is.
662
00:30:38,847 --> 00:30:40,257
Yes.
663
00:30:40,348 --> 00:30:44,078
- Let me tell you, Piper, now
that I’ve signed that contract,
664
00:30:44,185 --> 00:30:49,995
you my friend are not going
to have a leg to stand on--
665
00:30:50,091 --> 00:30:52,121
- Yes, yes.
666
00:30:52,227 --> 00:30:54,267
The NWO wasn’t going
to leave it alone.
667
00:30:54,362 --> 00:30:58,762
- Piper, I’m going
to break you in half.
668
00:30:58,867 --> 00:31:00,707
You piece of crap.
669
00:31:02,003 --> 00:31:03,803
- He’ll fight the whole NWO.
670
00:31:03,905 --> 00:31:06,845
There was never really
a question about that.
671
00:31:06,941 --> 00:31:09,941
- If that’s the best you can do,
you’re in trouble.
672
00:31:10,044 --> 00:31:13,144
Because there’s no retreat,
no surrender.
673
00:31:13,882 --> 00:31:15,612
- Wherever you are watching
our telecast,
674
00:31:15,717 --> 00:31:18,887
we’re glad you’re with us for
this history-making event.
675
00:31:18,987 --> 00:31:21,657
This place is going to erupt.
676
00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:24,696
[crowd chanting, "Roddy"]
677
00:31:29,130 --> 00:31:31,400
- "Rowdy" Roddy Piper is one man
Hogan’s never beaten.
678
00:31:31,499 --> 00:31:33,259
So let’s just hook up our seat
belts and see
679
00:31:33,368 --> 00:31:34,778
if he beats him tonight.
680
00:31:35,270 --> 00:31:38,640
- These were just two
old great legends
681
00:31:38,740 --> 00:31:40,510
that you just want to see.
682
00:31:40,608 --> 00:31:42,208
[crowd chanting, "Roddy"]
683
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:44,410
- The entire arena
was chanting my name.
684
00:31:45,380 --> 00:31:48,310
Holy cow, you couldn’t
hear yourself.
685
00:31:48,416 --> 00:31:50,486
- People standing with
NWO t-shirts on,
686
00:31:50,585 --> 00:31:52,755
chanting Roddy’s name.
687
00:31:52,854 --> 00:31:56,054
- The fact that you could have
a rivalry between Roddy Piper
688
00:31:56,157 --> 00:32:00,597
and Hulk Hogan in the ’80s
and have it again in the ’90s,
689
00:32:00,695 --> 00:32:04,365
speaks to their respective
talents and their relationship
690
00:32:04,466 --> 00:32:05,136
with the audience.
691
00:32:05,233 --> 00:32:07,003
[bell rings]
692
00:32:07,101 --> 00:32:10,901
- The bell sounded,
means this thing is on.
693
00:32:11,005 --> 00:32:15,175
Look at the intensity and
the face of Roddy Piper.
694
00:32:15,276 --> 00:32:17,616
- It was a test you know to
stand your ground with Roddy,
695
00:32:17,712 --> 00:32:20,212
because you know
he wasn’t backing up.
696
00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,385
- And he did not let him go.
697
00:32:22,484 --> 00:32:26,654
- It made for a good evening of
fun-filled entertainment for me
698
00:32:26,754 --> 00:32:28,354
whenever I had to wrestle.
699
00:32:28,456 --> 00:32:32,966
Ask and I’ll break
you in half.
700
00:32:35,196 --> 00:32:36,366
- Got the sleeper on Hogan.
701
00:32:36,464 --> 00:32:37,534
- Good night, Irene.
702
00:32:37,632 --> 00:32:40,602
He’s got him.
703
00:32:40,702 --> 00:32:41,332
- He’s out..
704
00:32:41,436 --> 00:32:42,006
Ring the bell.
705
00:32:42,103 --> 00:32:43,703
[crowd cheers]
706
00:32:43,805 --> 00:32:45,105
- He put him to sleep.
707
00:32:45,206 --> 00:32:48,246
There’s the man Hogan
never beat beating Hulk Hogan.
708
00:32:48,343 --> 00:32:50,173
- He got him.
That’s unbelievable.
709
00:32:50,278 --> 00:32:53,788
Roddy Piper,
unbelievable, brother.
710
00:32:53,882 --> 00:32:56,082
- Piper wins.
711
00:32:56,584 --> 00:33:00,954
- After all these years of Hulk
Hogan being the top dog
712
00:33:01,055 --> 00:33:06,095
in the industry, it was striking
to realize when the two met
713
00:33:06,194 --> 00:33:09,664
and a definitive victor was
finally announced,
714
00:33:09,764 --> 00:33:13,264
it was Piper
who came out on top.
715
00:33:13,368 --> 00:33:18,008
- We made progress you know
in WCW with the storylines.
716
00:33:19,607 --> 00:33:23,517
- So with the non-title victory,
Piper earns a shot at
717
00:33:23,611 --> 00:33:27,111
Super Brawl for
the WCW Championship.
718
00:33:27,582 --> 00:33:29,212
- Whatever their personal
feelings are,
719
00:33:29,317 --> 00:33:32,627
whatever their baggage is,
whatever their histories are,
720
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,950
whatever issues there were,
721
00:33:36,057 --> 00:33:37,897
once they step inside
of the ring,
722
00:33:37,992 --> 00:33:39,862
they put all that to
the side.
723
00:33:39,961 --> 00:33:40,961
- This is for the title.
724
00:33:41,062 --> 00:33:42,032
- Here you go, baby.
725
00:33:42,130 --> 00:33:43,330
[bell rings]
726
00:33:43,431 --> 00:33:47,971
- Bell sounds and Hogan
is walking away.
727
00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:48,999
There he is.
728
00:33:49,103 --> 00:33:51,243
- Let them go.
729
00:33:51,339 --> 00:33:54,909
- Moving into that match with
Piper, fans from 20 to 25 years
730
00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:58,509
ago could argue about
who was the greatest wrestler,
731
00:33:58,613 --> 00:34:00,013
who was going to win.
732
00:34:00,114 --> 00:34:02,614
- Hogan is in the fight
in his life.
733
00:34:02,717 --> 00:34:05,827
- It’s an art to fighting.
734
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,790
It’s like playing chess.
735
00:34:07,889 --> 00:34:11,419
- Hey, there’s some more NWO.
736
00:34:11,526 --> 00:34:14,436
He’s having a deal on all of
them, baby
737
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:19,000
- Did the best I could to be the
coward and be the bad guy.
738
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:25,700
- Hogan has turned it around
now, and got Piper wheeling.
739
00:34:29,510 --> 00:34:32,240
- You get a gut feeling you know
when you’re out there.
740
00:34:32,347 --> 00:34:35,257
The fans gets tired of seeing
count out after count out
741
00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:37,380
after disqualification.
742
00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:41,290
- Savage is putting something in
Hogan’s hands.
743
00:34:41,389 --> 00:34:43,419
- Put something in Hogan’s hand.
744
00:34:45,727 --> 00:34:46,967
What happened here?
745
00:34:47,061 --> 00:34:47,791
What the hell’s going on?
746
00:34:47,895 --> 00:34:49,895
One, two--
747
00:34:54,936 --> 00:34:58,606
- 12 years in the making for
Hulk Hogan to get
748
00:34:58,706 --> 00:35:02,346
this clean victory over
"Rowdy" Roddy Piper,
749
00:35:02,443 --> 00:35:04,343
and it still isn’t clean.
750
00:35:04,445 --> 00:35:10,015
He gets some brass knuckles, and
that’s how he gets the victory.
751
00:35:10,118 --> 00:35:14,798
Of course, Piper protects
his character at all costs.
752
00:35:14,889 --> 00:35:16,389
- That was Piper.
753
00:35:16,491 --> 00:35:20,391
Piper definitely was unique in
that fact as far as taking care
754
00:35:20,495 --> 00:35:23,195
of his character, making sure
he was protected at all times,
755
00:35:23,297 --> 00:35:26,267
making sure that he stayed
at that same level
756
00:35:26,367 --> 00:35:28,377
or even bigger than Hulk Hogan.
757
00:35:28,469 --> 00:35:34,269
That what Piper was all about.
758
00:35:34,375 --> 00:35:36,245
- I thought when Roddy came in,
I thought, this is going to be
759
00:35:36,344 --> 00:35:39,244
so hard to manage these two,
because I’ve heard all the war
760
00:35:39,347 --> 00:35:41,657
stories, but I never got the
761
00:35:41,749 --> 00:35:45,319
sense that there was anything,
but respect.
762
00:35:46,421 --> 00:35:48,191
Partly because Roddy
had matured.
763
00:35:49,557 --> 00:35:52,167
I think Roddy knew coming
to WCW was, for the most part,
764
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:54,160
the end of his run.
765
00:35:54,262 --> 00:35:56,762
Thinking,
"Okay, this is my last ride.
766
00:35:56,864 --> 00:35:58,804
I want to go out having fun."
767
00:35:59,734 --> 00:36:02,704
- I think as you get older,
you get wiser.
768
00:36:02,804 --> 00:36:06,304
Piper realized that Hulkster was
never there to really take his
769
00:36:06,407 --> 00:36:09,517
spot, and I think Hulk realized
Piper was not there
770
00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:11,440
to take his spot.
771
00:36:11,546 --> 00:36:20,126
- Yes, I admit you’re just as
big a superstar as I am.
772
00:36:20,221 --> 00:36:23,421
- The drama that happens,
that all dissipates.
773
00:36:23,524 --> 00:36:26,494
I think those guys had a mega
amount of respect
774
00:36:26,594 --> 00:36:28,664
for each other,
but they both wanted
775
00:36:28,763 --> 00:36:32,663
to be the man.
776
00:36:35,169 --> 00:36:38,039
- This didn’t end the rivalry,
because I honestly think the
777
00:36:38,139 --> 00:36:42,339
rivalry would still be going on
if Piper was still with us.
778
00:36:42,443 --> 00:36:45,413
But it ended that story.
779
00:36:46,314 --> 00:36:51,124
- After WCW ceased to be,
Hulk Hogan ended up
780
00:36:51,219 --> 00:36:52,879
returning to the WWE.
781
00:36:53,755 --> 00:36:56,955
And once he put that
red and yellow back on,
782
00:36:57,058 --> 00:37:00,798
all the Hulkamaniacs were
right back there with him.
783
00:37:00,895 --> 00:37:03,895
- There’s an issue between you
and me, McMahon,
784
00:37:03,998 --> 00:37:08,528
and it goes longer
than 20 years, brother.
785
00:37:08,636 --> 00:37:12,106
- We get one more little shot of
him at WrestleMania 19 when
786
00:37:12,206 --> 00:37:17,446
Hogan goes back to the WWE,
and Vince is a very mean
787
00:37:17,545 --> 00:37:19,515
Vince McMahon at this point.
788
00:37:19,614 --> 00:37:24,954
- I created Hulkamania,
and by God at WrestleMania,
789
00:37:25,052 --> 00:37:27,722
I’m going to kill it.
790
00:37:27,822 --> 00:37:29,192
- They’re going to have a match.
791
00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:32,120
The head of the company
is going to wrestle the man
792
00:37:32,226 --> 00:37:35,366
who helped build the company.
793
00:37:35,463 --> 00:37:43,033
- It is 20 years in the making,
McMahon-Hogan.
794
00:37:43,137 --> 00:37:44,347
- McMahon is down.
795
00:37:44,438 --> 00:37:46,138
Hogan is down.
796
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:48,940
- What, what the hell is
he doing in here?
797
00:37:49,043 --> 00:37:50,683
It’s "Rowdy" Roddy Piper.
798
00:37:54,916 --> 00:37:56,416
No freaking way.
799
00:37:56,517 --> 00:37:57,887
Roddy Piper is here.
800
00:37:57,985 --> 00:37:58,855
What the hell is going on here?
801
00:38:03,691 --> 00:38:08,361
All you got to do is walk in a
trench coat and take
802
00:38:08,462 --> 00:38:12,262
it off, and then go pow,
that’s how much credibility
803
00:38:12,366 --> 00:38:14,806
the entire situation had.
804
00:38:14,902 --> 00:38:17,842
- Roddy Piper flooring Hogan.
805
00:38:18,439 --> 00:38:23,969
- Piper gets a pipe and just
goes to town on Hulk Hogan.
806
00:38:24,078 --> 00:38:27,778
And you feel as a fan, as if
there was a little bit more than
807
00:38:27,882 --> 00:38:31,152
just story trying to be told
in that moment.
808
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,120
- There’s two guys out there
that’ll do anything,
809
00:38:35,223 --> 00:38:39,963
anything to keep this art form
alive, and we’re so much alike.
810
00:38:40,061 --> 00:38:42,461
It’s scary.
811
00:38:42,563 --> 00:38:45,633
- Two old guys always
want to get over on each other.
812
00:38:45,733 --> 00:38:47,603
I mean, you put
Jordan and Bird out there.
813
00:38:47,702 --> 00:38:49,832
I don’t care what, one of them
is going to try to get over
814
00:38:49,937 --> 00:38:51,307
on the other one.
815
00:38:51,405 --> 00:38:55,615
And I think that’s what it is
with Piper and Hogan.
816
00:38:58,446 --> 00:39:00,186
- Over the years, it felt
like a bond formed between
817
00:39:00,281 --> 00:39:01,611
these two legends.
818
00:39:01,716 --> 00:39:04,186
And I think that was most
evident in 2005
819
00:39:04,285 --> 00:39:07,025
when they were both inducted
into the hall of fame.
820
00:39:07,121 --> 00:39:11,961
- I got to admit,
I was jealous of Hogan.
821
00:39:12,059 --> 00:39:14,889
Well, it had nothing to do with
the hair.
822
00:39:15,630 --> 00:39:20,600
My name is "Rowdy" Roddy Piper,
and you ain’t seen nothing yet.
823
00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:27,370
- The one, the
only, the incredible Hulk Hogan.
824
00:39:27,475 --> 00:39:31,015
[crowd cheers]
825
00:39:31,112 --> 00:39:34,312
- Roddy Piper and I, we had
a great time in this business.
826
00:39:34,415 --> 00:39:35,585
And what you going to do,
brothers,
827
00:39:35,683 --> 00:39:39,983
when the WWE runs
wild on you.
828
00:39:40,087 --> 00:39:45,227
[crowd cheering]
829
00:39:45,326 --> 00:39:47,466
- I gotta tell you,
I heard you yelping you know
830
00:39:47,561 --> 00:39:49,961
over again and about
you and Mr. T,
831
00:39:50,064 --> 00:39:52,264
how you beat us at
WrestleMania.
832
00:39:52,366 --> 00:39:53,106
- He got him.
833
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,400
- They got him.
834
00:39:55,870 --> 00:39:57,230
- Hey, big guy?
835
00:39:57,338 --> 00:39:58,208
Well-
836
00:39:58,306 --> 00:39:59,006
- Oh, ho, ho, wait a minute.
837
00:39:59,106 --> 00:40:00,476
A new Hall of Famer.
838
00:40:00,574 --> 00:40:02,514
- I pity the fool who starting
trouble with my man, Hulk.
839
00:40:02,610 --> 00:40:03,370
- Really?
840
00:40:03,477 --> 00:40:04,317
- Be a man, Piper.
841
00:40:04,412 --> 00:40:05,982
Bury the hatchet.
842
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,840
- All right, there you go.
843
00:40:06,948 --> 00:40:08,088
- My word.
844
00:40:08,182 --> 00:40:09,852
That’s a
WrestleMania moment.
845
00:40:09,951 --> 00:40:12,521
- [groans]
846
00:40:12,620 --> 00:40:13,820
- Piper.
847
00:40:13,921 --> 00:40:15,851
- [groans]
848
00:40:15,957 --> 00:40:18,997
I’m so sorry.
849
00:40:22,163 --> 00:40:26,063
- Unfortunately, that sad day
did come in 2015 for every
850
00:40:26,167 --> 00:40:30,277
wrestling fan in the world when
we found out that
851
00:40:30,371 --> 00:40:33,801
Roddy Piper had passed away.
852
00:40:34,942 --> 00:40:36,612
- Two days after Piper died,
all of a sudden
853
00:40:36,711 --> 00:40:37,641
I get this voice message.
854
00:40:37,745 --> 00:40:38,715
Bing.
855
00:40:38,813 --> 00:40:40,483
I looked at it and saw
from Piper.
856
00:40:47,822 --> 00:40:48,792
Very strange.
857
00:40:48,889 --> 00:40:50,489
I know there’s been
delays in texts.
858
00:40:50,591 --> 00:40:52,691
If it’s raining here in Florida,
the weather’s weird.
859
00:40:52,793 --> 00:40:55,733
It may take an hour or so
to get there.
860
00:40:55,830 --> 00:41:00,300
Two days after he passed
to get that, you know?
861
00:41:00,401 --> 00:41:03,501
You know, it’s crazy.
862
00:41:03,604 --> 00:41:05,304
I still have it at home.
863
00:41:10,478 --> 00:41:12,588
- I’ve always thought,
I don’t know who belongs
864
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,650
on the Mount Rushmore of
Greatest Heels,
865
00:41:14,749 --> 00:41:16,449
but I know it starts with
Roddy Piper and
866
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:18,750
there’s no one close.
867
00:41:18,853 --> 00:41:19,883
- Now who are you
supposed to be?
868
00:41:19,987 --> 00:41:21,597
- Hulk Hogan, Mr. Piper.
869
00:41:21,689 --> 00:41:22,989
- Who’s he?
870
00:41:23,090 --> 00:41:23,950
The last time I saw him,
he was catching dogs for
871
00:41:24,058 --> 00:41:25,798
the service of the city.
872
00:41:25,893 --> 00:41:26,893
You got the candy?
873
00:41:26,994 --> 00:41:28,664
You got candy in here.
874
00:41:28,763 --> 00:41:30,433
- The whole world’s going
to witness this when you feel
875
00:41:30,531 --> 00:41:32,261
the wrath of the Hulkster
876
00:41:32,366 --> 00:41:34,806
- There’s two sides of a coin,
a heads and a tails.
877
00:41:34,902 --> 00:41:39,072
Piper and Hogan together,
unstoppable.
878
00:41:39,173 --> 00:41:40,843
- When you think of Hogan,
you know, and all
879
00:41:40,941 --> 00:41:43,711
you think Piper.
880
00:41:43,811 --> 00:41:45,341
- It just was always a natural
rivalry that people
881
00:41:45,446 --> 00:41:48,016
could relate to.
882
00:41:48,983 --> 00:41:51,283
- I am the legend killer.
883
00:41:51,385 --> 00:41:53,685
All of a sudden,
this Hulkamania is going wild
884
00:41:53,788 --> 00:41:57,028
all over the place,
and he’s becoming a legend.
885
00:41:57,124 --> 00:42:01,134
- I’m so thankful that those two
guys came together at the same
886
00:42:01,228 --> 00:42:07,568
time, and I was watching
at the age that I was.
887
00:42:07,668 --> 00:42:09,628
- I didn’t know how low
a man could go,
888
00:42:09,737 --> 00:42:11,277
but you hit the bottom brother.
889
00:42:11,372 --> 00:42:12,572
It’ll go down in history.
890
00:42:12,673 --> 00:42:15,473
There will always be
a Piper-Hogan connection
891
00:42:15,576 --> 00:42:17,686
until the end of time.
892
00:42:18,179 --> 00:42:20,409
- Whatever animosity
that we may have,
893
00:42:20,514 --> 00:42:22,114
I wouldn’t have picked
anybody else.
894
00:42:22,216 --> 00:42:23,586
I wouldn’t have said,
"The heck with that Hogan.
895
00:42:23,684 --> 00:42:24,754
I don’t like him."
896
00:42:24,852 --> 00:42:27,282
He’s the guy.
He’s the guy.
897
00:42:27,388 --> 00:42:29,158
So I got you,
I got you locked in.
898
00:42:29,256 --> 00:42:30,796
Ring the bell.
899
00:42:30,891 --> 00:42:31,961
Let’s roll.
900
00:42:32,059 --> 00:42:34,989
[crowd cheering]
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