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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,178 --> 00:00:02,878 - There’s the Hitman. 2 00:00:02,979 --> 00:00:04,239 He’s a great family man. 3 00:00:04,347 --> 00:00:06,017 He’s a great athlete. No doubt about it. 4 00:00:06,116 --> 00:00:08,626 - There’s only one Mr. Flamboyant, 5 00:00:08,718 --> 00:00:10,618 Shawn Michaels! 6 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:11,990 - They were perfect for each other. 7 00:00:12,088 --> 00:00:13,148 They hate each other, 8 00:00:13,256 --> 00:00:14,596 but they were perfect for each other. 9 00:00:14,691 --> 00:00:17,521 - When you look at long-term rivalry, 10 00:00:17,627 --> 00:00:21,807 Shawn Michaels versus Bret Hart will forever live in infamy. 11 00:00:21,898 --> 00:00:26,068 - Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels loath one another 12 00:00:26,169 --> 00:00:29,939 whether it be out here or back there. 13 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,940 - Neither one of those guys wanted to be number two. 14 00:00:32,042 --> 00:00:33,912 They both wanted to be number one. 15 00:00:34,010 --> 00:00:36,080 - Bret was more vulnerable than Shawn. 16 00:00:36,179 --> 00:00:37,139 - Get out. 17 00:00:37,247 --> 00:00:38,317 - And that was sort of 18 00:00:38,415 --> 00:00:39,985 the seeds of things to come. 19 00:00:40,083 --> 00:00:42,283 - You’re nothing but a degenerate. 20 00:00:42,385 --> 00:00:44,225 - I don’t think there’s ever been a rivalry 21 00:00:44,321 --> 00:00:46,051 that has been talked about as much 22 00:00:46,156 --> 00:00:49,796 as this issue between Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels. 23 00:00:49,893 --> 00:00:51,863 - It made things interesting to go to work 24 00:00:51,962 --> 00:00:52,862 ’cause you never knew. 25 00:00:52,963 --> 00:00:54,033 Like, it was a powder keg. 26 00:00:54,130 --> 00:00:55,100 - [bleep] you. 27 00:00:55,198 --> 00:00:56,098 - You know, we started out 28 00:00:56,199 --> 00:00:57,459 pretending to be real 29 00:00:57,567 --> 00:00:58,937 and then it got real. 30 00:00:59,035 --> 00:01:00,175 - Ring the bell! Ring the bell! 31 00:01:00,270 --> 00:01:01,940 [bell dinging] 32 00:01:03,206 --> 00:01:04,976 - I was the bad guy. 33 00:01:05,075 --> 00:01:06,975 It wasn’t fun to do. 34 00:01:07,077 --> 00:01:08,847 - I could’ve killed him with my bare hands. 35 00:01:08,945 --> 00:01:11,685 [dramatic music] 36 00:01:11,781 --> 00:01:14,111 ♪ ♪ 37 00:01:14,217 --> 00:01:17,787 - This rivalry has just escalated into a war. 38 00:01:18,989 --> 00:01:21,189 - When two legends collide, 39 00:01:21,291 --> 00:01:24,791 their rivalry stays pinned in our minds forever. 40 00:01:26,062 --> 00:01:28,562 This is where we break down the legendary stories 41 00:01:28,665 --> 00:01:31,035 behind the greatest rivalries of all time. 42 00:01:32,068 --> 00:01:34,568 I’m Freddie Prinze Jr., 43 00:01:34,671 --> 00:01:37,141 and this is "WWE Rivals." 44 00:01:41,111 --> 00:01:43,481 One of the most heated and celebrated rivalries 45 00:01:43,580 --> 00:01:45,110 in the history of the business, 46 00:01:45,215 --> 00:01:47,215 Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart. 47 00:01:47,317 --> 00:01:49,687 Both of these men are on a collision course 48 00:01:49,786 --> 00:01:54,096 and we’re at a time where the larger men of the WWE 49 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:56,260 are now giving a little bit of room 50 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:57,819 for the smaller wrestlers to get over. 51 00:01:57,927 --> 00:02:00,237 - This is a land of giants, right? 52 00:02:00,330 --> 00:02:02,160 When I told people that I wanted to be 53 00:02:02,265 --> 00:02:03,365 a WWE superstar, 54 00:02:03,466 --> 00:02:05,676 I got laughed at because I wasn’t 6’8", 55 00:02:05,769 --> 00:02:07,699 I wasn’t 300 pounds. 56 00:02:07,804 --> 00:02:09,904 And for me, it just drew me in more 57 00:02:10,006 --> 00:02:13,446 because it made me feel like maybe I do have a shot 58 00:02:13,543 --> 00:02:16,143 because these guys aren’t as big as the other guys, 59 00:02:16,246 --> 00:02:18,916 but I like watching these matches 60 00:02:19,015 --> 00:02:20,815 more so than the big guys. 61 00:02:21,985 --> 00:02:24,425 - I want you to take a good look 62 00:02:24,521 --> 00:02:27,121 at the wrestler of the 90s. 63 00:02:28,525 --> 00:02:32,195 - In the early 90s, the shift was to a more athletic 64 00:02:32,295 --> 00:02:35,165 in ring-based characters 65 00:02:35,265 --> 00:02:38,465 where you were getting guys that could really go 66 00:02:38,568 --> 00:02:41,068 in the ring and have great wrestling matches. 67 00:02:41,171 --> 00:02:43,241 - Whoa! - What a high-risk move. 68 00:02:43,339 --> 00:02:44,839 - It was the opportunity for us 69 00:02:44,941 --> 00:02:47,641 because a lot of the stalwarts, I guess, 70 00:02:47,744 --> 00:02:51,114 from the early WWE days were starting to leave. 71 00:02:51,214 --> 00:02:54,114 - Hulk Hogan is here in the WCW. 72 00:02:54,217 --> 00:02:56,257 - People can say what they want about Hogan 73 00:02:56,352 --> 00:02:58,422 and all the talent they had over in WCW 74 00:02:58,521 --> 00:03:00,051 and what they were doing, 75 00:03:00,156 --> 00:03:02,526 but to be honest, you know, there’s no comparison 76 00:03:02,625 --> 00:03:04,465 to what Shawn was doing and what I was doing. 77 00:03:05,695 --> 00:03:08,295 - There are certain ones that you get in there with 78 00:03:08,398 --> 00:03:10,138 and it’s hard to describe, 79 00:03:10,233 --> 00:03:13,703 but you just recognize a real comfort level there. 80 00:03:13,803 --> 00:03:15,243 It felt like you could probably do it 81 00:03:15,338 --> 00:03:16,938 with your eyes closed. 82 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,870 I had that with Bret. 83 00:03:18,975 --> 00:03:20,945 - Looking at Shawn looking at Bret, 84 00:03:21,044 --> 00:03:23,344 they’re both flag bearers of the new generation. 85 00:03:24,314 --> 00:03:25,414 - Now, what you’re seeing, 86 00:03:25,515 --> 00:03:27,785 the blast-off of the next decade 87 00:03:27,884 --> 00:03:30,384 in the World Wrestling Federation. 88 00:03:31,421 --> 00:03:33,621 - It was vital for our success 89 00:03:33,723 --> 00:03:35,823 that those guys were at the top of their game 90 00:03:35,925 --> 00:03:38,595 and, you know--and brought what they did to the table. 91 00:03:38,695 --> 00:03:40,935 - Whoa, take a look at that. 92 00:03:41,030 --> 00:03:43,260 Yeah, Bret Hart vision. 93 00:03:43,366 --> 00:03:45,576 - I grew up very much snowballed in 94 00:03:45,668 --> 00:03:46,668 with the Hart family 95 00:03:46,770 --> 00:03:48,430 since I was a ten-year-old boy. 96 00:03:48,538 --> 00:03:51,048 Growing up in Calgary, like, he definitely came across 97 00:03:51,141 --> 00:03:52,811 as a Canadian hero. 98 00:03:52,909 --> 00:03:54,369 - He’s the best there is, the best there was, 99 00:03:54,477 --> 00:03:55,887 the best there ever will be. 100 00:03:55,979 --> 00:03:59,109 He’s my hero and I think he’s everybody else’s here, too. 101 00:03:59,215 --> 00:04:01,555 - I always had a crush on Shawn Michaels. 102 00:04:01,651 --> 00:04:02,651 People always laugh and they’re like, 103 00:04:02,752 --> 00:04:04,082 "You had a crush on Shawn Michaels?" 104 00:04:04,187 --> 00:04:05,797 He just had that, like, charisma about him. 105 00:04:05,889 --> 00:04:07,489 You know, he was the Heartbreak Kid. 106 00:04:08,291 --> 00:04:09,991 - Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes! 107 00:04:10,093 --> 00:04:12,133 - Bret and Shawn were like the epitome 108 00:04:12,228 --> 00:04:13,628 of what WWE was trying to be. 109 00:04:13,730 --> 00:04:18,430 - I’m gonna be carrying the flag for the new generation. 110 00:04:29,779 --> 00:04:31,079 Who was a better wrestler? 111 00:04:31,181 --> 00:04:32,981 I would say Bret, easy. 112 00:04:33,750 --> 00:04:36,280 - The excellence of execution. 113 00:04:36,386 --> 00:04:37,586 The most scientific 114 00:04:37,687 --> 00:04:39,857 World Wrestling Federation champion 115 00:04:39,956 --> 00:04:41,856 perhaps of all time. 116 00:04:41,958 --> 00:04:44,928 - Bret was just very good and fluent. 117 00:04:45,695 --> 00:04:48,635 Almost everything had a purpose and a reason. 118 00:04:48,731 --> 00:04:51,561 - You could give Bret Hart a pail, 119 00:04:51,668 --> 00:04:52,938 and Bret Hart could go out and have 120 00:04:53,036 --> 00:04:56,146 an entertaining, realistic match. 121 00:04:56,239 --> 00:04:58,809 - Just a skilled technician in the ring. 122 00:04:59,843 --> 00:05:02,683 There are no holes in his in-ring work at all. 123 00:05:02,779 --> 00:05:04,179 I mean, he had the mat game. 124 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:06,310 He could brawl. He could do it all. 125 00:05:07,150 --> 00:05:10,150 He was something special inside the ropes for sure. 126 00:05:10,753 --> 00:05:13,323 - I think I was in my prime at that time. 127 00:05:13,823 --> 00:05:15,193 ’Cause when I think of Shawn Michaels, 128 00:05:15,291 --> 00:05:20,031 sometimes he kinda-- he kinda reminds me of me. 129 00:05:21,030 --> 00:05:25,470 Shawn was just a really talented athlete. 130 00:05:25,568 --> 00:05:28,328 I don’t know of anybody ever having a bad match with Shawn. 131 00:05:28,438 --> 00:05:30,548 - I was a better performer. 132 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:32,440 - Michael heads right back in. 133 00:05:32,542 --> 00:05:34,572 That’s the kind of effort-- - Hey! 134 00:05:35,678 --> 00:05:39,378 - Once the term "sports entertainer" came out, 135 00:05:39,482 --> 00:05:41,912 I felt like I embodied all of that. 136 00:05:42,018 --> 00:05:46,028 You will not ever see a man more charismatic, 137 00:05:46,122 --> 00:05:48,922 more flamboyant, or more talented 138 00:05:49,025 --> 00:05:51,165 than the Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels. 139 00:05:51,261 --> 00:05:53,291 - High-risk maneuver! 140 00:05:53,396 --> 00:05:54,836 - In my opinion, Shawn Michaels is 141 00:05:54,931 --> 00:05:58,601 the most talented in-ring performer of all time, 142 00:05:58,701 --> 00:06:00,231 and he knew it. 143 00:06:00,336 --> 00:06:01,836 Back when I came in, Shawn Michaels was 144 00:06:01,938 --> 00:06:03,478 a spoiled brat. 145 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:05,040 It was Shawn’s world 146 00:06:05,141 --> 00:06:06,641 and the rest of us were just playing in it. 147 00:06:06,743 --> 00:06:08,043 - In the ring, there’s probably no one 148 00:06:08,144 --> 00:06:10,044 that I’d rather work with than Shawn. 149 00:06:10,146 --> 00:06:11,546 - Oh! 150 00:06:11,648 --> 00:06:12,958 That’s how good he was. 151 00:06:14,651 --> 00:06:16,381 Personally, it was a whole another issue. 152 00:06:16,486 --> 00:06:20,056 [dramatic music] 153 00:06:20,156 --> 00:06:22,566 I think initially there was friction 154 00:06:22,659 --> 00:06:24,559 professionally that way. 155 00:06:24,661 --> 00:06:26,561 - Shawn Michaels, I think you’re 156 00:06:26,663 --> 00:06:27,763 one of the greatest wrestlers 157 00:06:27,864 --> 00:06:30,134 I’ve ever had the privilege of watching. 158 00:06:30,233 --> 00:06:32,873 Shawn and me were really good friends once upon a time. 159 00:06:32,969 --> 00:06:34,499 It’s important to know is that Shawn was 160 00:06:34,604 --> 00:06:36,174 a really close and dear friend of mine. 161 00:06:36,773 --> 00:06:39,373 I consider Shawn Michaels a friend. 162 00:06:39,475 --> 00:06:42,545 Somebody I invited to my home and had in my house, 163 00:06:42,645 --> 00:06:44,045 and somebody that played with my kids. 164 00:06:44,147 --> 00:06:45,387 - Quick, quick! 165 00:06:45,481 --> 00:06:46,681 Cover him! Cover him! 166 00:06:46,783 --> 00:06:48,413 - I remember a live event in Calgary. 167 00:06:48,518 --> 00:06:53,798 Razor, Shawn, Diesel, they all were at Bret’s house. 168 00:06:53,890 --> 00:06:55,590 They put milk in super soakers and were, like, 169 00:06:55,692 --> 00:06:57,592 all shooting each other with milk for, like, hours 170 00:06:57,694 --> 00:06:58,894 and, like, having fun. 171 00:06:58,995 --> 00:07:00,395 You know, they were all just having a fun day 172 00:07:00,496 --> 00:07:02,206 at Bret’s house before going down 173 00:07:02,298 --> 00:07:03,828 to the Saddledome and working. 174 00:07:03,933 --> 00:07:05,933 So I knew they were friends. 175 00:07:06,035 --> 00:07:08,175 - He would talk about Shawn, and like, you know, 176 00:07:08,271 --> 00:07:09,701 how much he admired him 177 00:07:09,806 --> 00:07:10,976 and how great he was in the ring, 178 00:07:11,074 --> 00:07:13,344 but, like, he didn’t like his--some of his ways. 179 00:07:13,443 --> 00:07:15,813 Maybe his attitude sometimes. 180 00:07:15,912 --> 00:07:17,442 - He was unprofessional a lot of the times. 181 00:07:17,547 --> 00:07:19,217 - Why don’t you say it to my face, huh? 182 00:07:19,315 --> 00:07:20,685 - The truth hurts. - Huh? 183 00:07:20,783 --> 00:07:23,423 - He had a attitude to me and I think more like 184 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:25,849 it was all about him and nobody else mattered. 185 00:07:25,955 --> 00:07:28,755 - You can’t have a main event without me, for God’s sakes. 186 00:07:28,858 --> 00:07:30,458 - There you go. 187 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,330 - Basically, here’s this punk kid who’s really good, 188 00:07:33,429 --> 00:07:34,729 can back up everything he says... 189 00:07:34,831 --> 00:07:37,901 - Can you believe the performance thus far? 190 00:07:38,768 --> 00:07:40,978 - But he doesn’t have that maturity. 191 00:07:41,904 --> 00:07:45,644 - Even though I was absolute hell to deal with, 192 00:07:45,742 --> 00:07:48,882 I was just so passionate about doing this 193 00:07:48,978 --> 00:07:51,308 and was not going to be happy unless I could 194 00:07:51,414 --> 00:07:54,414 fulfill absolutely everything. 195 00:07:55,451 --> 00:07:57,581 - Shawn Michaels going to WrestleMania 196 00:07:57,687 --> 00:08:00,897 to face the WWE champion. 197 00:08:01,524 --> 00:08:03,324 - The rafters are rattling 198 00:08:03,426 --> 00:08:07,796 as the WWE champion makes his way to the ring. 199 00:08:07,897 --> 00:08:10,867 - Bret was the champion and that was, you know, 200 00:08:10,967 --> 00:08:12,777 one thing that Shawn wanted. 201 00:08:12,869 --> 00:08:15,069 - For Shawn, he was fixated on the title 202 00:08:15,171 --> 00:08:16,201 at that point in his life. 203 00:08:16,305 --> 00:08:19,215 - Oh--this was it, you know? 204 00:08:19,308 --> 00:08:20,968 You can make it here, you can make it anywhere. 205 00:08:21,077 --> 00:08:22,747 - The quest of a 12-year-old-boy 206 00:08:22,845 --> 00:08:27,355 from San Antonio, Texas officially begins. 207 00:08:27,450 --> 00:08:29,280 - The two greatest athletes in the history 208 00:08:29,385 --> 00:08:31,055 of the World Wrestling Federation 209 00:08:31,154 --> 00:08:33,794 going at it at WrestleMania. 210 00:08:33,890 --> 00:08:35,350 - Going into WrestleMania, 211 00:08:35,458 --> 00:08:38,128 they had had rivalries in the past. 212 00:08:38,227 --> 00:08:40,337 This was different over the championship. 213 00:08:40,430 --> 00:08:41,530 - Shawn and Bret’s style 214 00:08:41,631 --> 00:08:43,661 complemented each other perfectly, 215 00:08:43,766 --> 00:08:45,236 so the story was simple. 216 00:08:45,334 --> 00:08:46,974 It was organic. It was easy to get to. 217 00:08:47,070 --> 00:08:48,570 - We expect to see 218 00:08:48,671 --> 00:08:51,141 the single greatest athletic event 219 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,040 in World Wrestling Federation history. 220 00:08:53,142 --> 00:08:55,212 - This match is gonna be 60 minutes long. 221 00:08:55,945 --> 00:08:59,015 - 60-minute Iron Man Match is one in which 222 00:08:59,115 --> 00:09:01,015 at the end of that, the one that has got 223 00:09:01,117 --> 00:09:03,357 the most falls becomes champion. 224 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,150 - You could have offered an hour match 225 00:09:06,255 --> 00:09:08,625 to anybody in wrestling back then, 226 00:09:08,724 --> 00:09:10,564 and I don’t think anybody would have taken you up on it. 227 00:09:10,660 --> 00:09:11,720 Even though you can be on a pay-per-view, 228 00:09:11,828 --> 00:09:12,838 it was like, "Uh-uh, I’m not gonna 229 00:09:12,929 --> 00:09:14,389 go out there for an hour." 230 00:09:14,497 --> 00:09:16,467 - It was kinda thrown out to us like a challenge. 231 00:09:16,566 --> 00:09:18,736 "Can you guys do it?" 232 00:09:18,835 --> 00:09:21,105 - Bret and I being the main event, 233 00:09:21,204 --> 00:09:22,744 we knew it was a big chance, 234 00:09:22,839 --> 00:09:25,239 but he and I felt confident we were the guys to do it. 235 00:09:25,908 --> 00:09:28,368 - It’ll be maybe the greatest match of all time, 236 00:09:28,478 --> 00:09:30,648 and I’ll be proud to be part of it. 237 00:09:30,746 --> 00:09:31,986 - You know, we were both just in our peak. 238 00:09:32,081 --> 00:09:34,011 I would say we were both without a doubt for sure 239 00:09:34,117 --> 00:09:35,587 the two best wrestlers in the world. 240 00:09:36,452 --> 00:09:38,782 I knew Shawn Michaels three or four years ago. 241 00:09:38,888 --> 00:09:40,328 I said this is gonna be the guy 242 00:09:40,423 --> 00:09:42,993 that’s gonna try to take my spot. 243 00:09:43,092 --> 00:09:45,792 Unfortunately, I’m not ready to leave yet. 244 00:09:45,895 --> 00:09:47,265 - The vignettes were awesome ’cause you saw 245 00:09:47,363 --> 00:09:49,933 Shawn doing these, like, handstand pushups. 246 00:09:50,032 --> 00:09:51,732 I thought that was so cool. 247 00:09:51,834 --> 00:09:53,974 The story’s already being told of Shawn’s gonna use 248 00:09:54,070 --> 00:09:55,530 his speed and his quickness, 249 00:09:55,638 --> 00:09:57,838 and Bret’s gonna use his hard-hitting, 250 00:09:57,940 --> 00:09:59,910 submission, technical style. 251 00:10:00,009 --> 00:10:01,409 The stage was set. 252 00:10:01,511 --> 00:10:03,011 - Who’s better? Me or Shawn Michaels? 253 00:10:03,112 --> 00:10:04,282 - You. 254 00:10:04,380 --> 00:10:06,710 - It just made it feel like Rocky and Drago. 255 00:10:06,816 --> 00:10:08,886 You remember the montage of them both training, 256 00:10:08,985 --> 00:10:11,255 and they have different training styles. 257 00:10:11,354 --> 00:10:13,424 Drago’s is more modern. 258 00:10:13,523 --> 00:10:15,253 And then--but you got Rocky over here 259 00:10:15,358 --> 00:10:18,428 running up mountains and carrying logs. 260 00:10:18,528 --> 00:10:20,968 - Shawn Michaels is very good, 261 00:10:21,063 --> 00:10:22,463 but he is not 262 00:10:22,565 --> 00:10:25,165 and he never ever will be the best. 263 00:10:25,268 --> 00:10:27,238 - They both thought they were the best 264 00:10:27,336 --> 00:10:28,976 and were gonna prove it. 265 00:10:29,071 --> 00:10:30,901 Neither one of those guys wanted to be number two. 266 00:10:31,007 --> 00:10:33,377 They both wanted to be number one. 267 00:10:33,476 --> 00:10:35,986 - I think tomorrow in the 60-minute Iron Man Match 268 00:10:36,078 --> 00:10:38,278 that I’ll prove beyond a shadow of a doubt 269 00:10:38,381 --> 00:10:40,351 that I’m everything that I say that I am. 270 00:10:40,449 --> 00:10:42,879 I’m the best there is, the best there was, 271 00:10:42,985 --> 00:10:45,385 and the best there ever will be. 272 00:10:50,493 --> 00:10:53,793 - This contest is the special Iron Man Match 273 00:10:53,896 --> 00:10:58,666 for the World Wrestling Federation Championship. 274 00:10:58,768 --> 00:11:00,678 - If you look at the Iron Man Match, 275 00:11:00,770 --> 00:11:03,000 no match has ever been more calling 276 00:11:03,105 --> 00:11:04,445 for that type of matchup 277 00:11:04,540 --> 00:11:06,370 than those two-- an Iron Man Match. 278 00:11:06,475 --> 00:11:08,345 - Get ready, ladies and gentlemen 279 00:11:08,444 --> 00:11:09,814 for a long, solid hour 280 00:11:09,912 --> 00:11:14,352 of non-stop World Wrestling Federation action 281 00:11:14,450 --> 00:11:17,050 between, perhaps, the two greatest athletes 282 00:11:17,153 --> 00:11:20,193 who have ever donned the tights. 283 00:11:20,289 --> 00:11:21,919 - You’re not undecided coming into that match. 284 00:11:22,024 --> 00:11:23,594 You’re either a Bret Hart fan 285 00:11:23,693 --> 00:11:24,863 or you’re a Shawn Michaels fan, 286 00:11:24,961 --> 00:11:28,931 but you are aware and respect the other. 287 00:11:29,031 --> 00:11:30,901 - You talk about, like, Bret and Shawn 288 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:32,930 and you have to appreciate the fact 289 00:11:33,035 --> 00:11:36,975 that these guys really genuinely want to be the best. 290 00:11:37,073 --> 00:11:39,243 The best or nothing else. 291 00:11:39,342 --> 00:11:41,072 - We were kind of sitting near the top 292 00:11:41,177 --> 00:11:42,277 and I just remember being like, 293 00:11:42,378 --> 00:11:43,748 "I wonder if this match is gonna be boring," 294 00:11:43,846 --> 00:11:46,816 because earlier in the day, we were eating 295 00:11:46,916 --> 00:11:48,786 this WrestleMania breakfast in the hotel, 296 00:11:48,884 --> 00:11:50,084 and I remember we see Shawn eating 297 00:11:50,186 --> 00:11:52,256 and he said, "I’m really nervous." 298 00:11:52,355 --> 00:11:54,755 I just remember being so blown away 299 00:11:54,857 --> 00:11:56,527 that here’s Shawn Michaels about to be 300 00:11:56,626 --> 00:11:57,766 in the main event of WrestleMania 301 00:11:57,860 --> 00:11:59,330 and he’s saying he’s nervous. 302 00:11:59,428 --> 00:12:00,758 - We were excited about it, 303 00:12:00,863 --> 00:12:03,563 and always a little bit of that excitement is nerves, 304 00:12:03,666 --> 00:12:05,436 you know, and anxiety. 305 00:12:05,534 --> 00:12:07,234 But that’s what makes somebody competitive. 306 00:12:07,336 --> 00:12:09,206 That’s what you live for is overcoming 307 00:12:09,305 --> 00:12:10,705 and achieving in the face 308 00:12:10,806 --> 00:12:13,246 of some of that stress and that anxiety. 309 00:12:13,342 --> 00:12:16,612 - The man who wins the most decisions 310 00:12:16,712 --> 00:12:19,412 will be declared the winner 311 00:12:19,515 --> 00:12:23,255 and the World Wrestling Federation champion. 312 00:12:24,287 --> 00:12:26,727 - Here we go. 60 minutes long. 313 00:12:27,823 --> 00:12:29,393 - You know, as the match goes 314 00:12:29,492 --> 00:12:31,062 it’s really important to make sure 315 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:33,130 we didn’t lose the audience. 316 00:12:33,229 --> 00:12:35,459 - How in the hell is anybody gonna 317 00:12:35,564 --> 00:12:37,464 keep their attention span for 60 minutes 318 00:12:37,566 --> 00:12:39,066 on a wrestling match? 319 00:12:39,168 --> 00:12:40,428 - Look out! - It’s that boot! 320 00:12:40,536 --> 00:12:42,106 Did you see what he did? 321 00:12:42,204 --> 00:12:43,644 - It’s what made the match so special 322 00:12:43,739 --> 00:12:46,339 is that there was a certain pacing to that match. 323 00:12:46,442 --> 00:12:47,912 You didn’t know who was gonna win. 324 00:12:48,010 --> 00:12:49,640 It was so back and forth and real. 325 00:12:50,379 --> 00:12:52,339 - 20 minutes into this matchup, 326 00:12:52,448 --> 00:12:54,618 ladies and gentlemen, and surprisingly, 327 00:12:54,717 --> 00:12:56,857 there has not been a decision. 328 00:12:56,952 --> 00:12:59,052 - Both these guys are pitching a shutout, McMahon. 329 00:12:59,155 --> 00:13:01,355 - Those guys were able to tell a story 330 00:13:01,457 --> 00:13:03,397 over the course of 60 minutes. 331 00:13:03,492 --> 00:13:05,262 If anything, they didn’t slow down, they sped up. 332 00:13:05,361 --> 00:13:06,661 - Oh, my goodness. 333 00:13:06,762 --> 00:13:09,532 The intensity beginning to build here. 334 00:13:09,632 --> 00:13:11,962 - Trying to outshine each other for 60 minutes. 335 00:13:13,302 --> 00:13:14,972 - Wait a minute, Michael is going upstairs! 336 00:13:15,071 --> 00:13:16,301 - Look out! - Look at that! 337 00:13:17,673 --> 00:13:19,543 - I’ve called a lot of matches. 338 00:13:19,642 --> 00:13:22,312 There are very few that really stand out. 339 00:13:22,411 --> 00:13:25,611 I’ve never seen two more determined individuals. 340 00:13:25,715 --> 00:13:27,155 - Both individuals not wanting to be 341 00:13:27,249 --> 00:13:29,879 the one who makes the mistake. 342 00:13:29,985 --> 00:13:31,555 - When Shawn came off the top rope 343 00:13:31,654 --> 00:13:33,494 in the last minute of the match, 344 00:13:33,589 --> 00:13:36,219 that blew everybody away. 345 00:13:36,325 --> 00:13:39,395 - He caught him! Sharpshooter! Sharpshooter in-- 346 00:13:39,495 --> 00:13:42,135 He got him! He got him! - Unbelievable! 347 00:13:42,231 --> 00:13:43,701 He got him, McMahon! 348 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,069 - I just thought it was so neat to be in this hole 349 00:13:46,168 --> 00:13:48,098 of "Oh, I’m about to give up." 350 00:13:48,204 --> 00:13:49,704 - Michaels, trying to hang on! 351 00:13:49,805 --> 00:13:52,845 all: Three, two, one! 352 00:13:52,942 --> 00:13:54,272 [bell dings] 353 00:13:57,613 --> 00:13:59,753 - We ended it at 60 minutes. 354 00:13:59,849 --> 00:14:00,979 No one had defeated anyone. 355 00:14:01,083 --> 00:14:03,223 It was a draw. It was unprecedented. 356 00:14:03,319 --> 00:14:05,579 It was like, "Okay, now what do you do?" 357 00:14:05,688 --> 00:14:08,228 - Ladies and gentlemen, your attention, please. 358 00:14:08,324 --> 00:14:13,834 This match has been ordered to continue 359 00:14:13,929 --> 00:14:18,429 under sudden death rules. 360 00:14:19,568 --> 00:14:21,868 - We’re in overtime, McMahon! 361 00:14:21,971 --> 00:14:23,401 - In a lot of ways I could argue, like, 362 00:14:23,506 --> 00:14:25,876 I got through the 60-minute Iron Man Match 363 00:14:25,975 --> 00:14:27,645 and there should never have been an overtime. 364 00:14:27,743 --> 00:14:30,113 It was a great little swerve in the storyline. 365 00:14:30,212 --> 00:14:31,842 - I can tell you right now, Bret Hart does not like 366 00:14:31,947 --> 00:14:35,017 this decision, and he’s gonna take it out on Shawn Michaels. 367 00:14:36,786 --> 00:14:37,986 - It’s a match that’s so vivid 368 00:14:38,087 --> 00:14:40,057 it’s just left etched in your mind. 369 00:14:40,156 --> 00:14:42,926 - Michaels has got it! Shawn Michaels got it! 370 00:14:43,025 --> 00:14:44,525 - So many people have said, 371 00:14:44,627 --> 00:14:46,437 "That is the match that made me wanna be a wrestler." 372 00:14:46,529 --> 00:14:48,059 - Michaels superkick! 373 00:14:48,164 --> 00:14:49,434 He got all of it. 374 00:14:49,532 --> 00:14:51,862 Michaels got all of it! Michaels with a cover! 375 00:14:51,967 --> 00:14:55,077 One, two, yeah! - No! 376 00:14:55,171 --> 00:14:56,501 [bell dings] 377 00:14:58,007 --> 00:15:00,917 [sentimental music] 378 00:15:01,010 --> 00:15:02,240 ♪ ♪ 379 00:15:02,344 --> 00:15:03,384 - I look back on it 380 00:15:03,479 --> 00:15:04,809 as a match that I’m proud of. 381 00:15:04,914 --> 00:15:06,384 I thought it was monumental. 382 00:15:07,716 --> 00:15:09,686 - I could never have done that match with anybody 383 00:15:09,785 --> 00:15:11,655 but Shawn Michaels. 384 00:15:11,754 --> 00:15:13,054 - Honestly, I don’t know 385 00:15:13,155 --> 00:15:14,995 that I could have done it with anybody else. 386 00:15:15,090 --> 00:15:17,720 So for all the differences he and I had after that, 387 00:15:17,827 --> 00:15:20,967 not another dude I would rather be out there with, 388 00:15:21,063 --> 00:15:23,303 and certainly not at that time in my life. 389 00:15:24,967 --> 00:15:26,707 - I remember seeing Shawn Michaels repel 390 00:15:26,802 --> 00:15:27,902 from the ceiling that night, 391 00:15:28,003 --> 00:15:29,273 and seeing that incredible Iron Man Match 392 00:15:29,371 --> 00:15:30,641 and thinking afterwards, 393 00:15:30,739 --> 00:15:32,139 "You know what? I don’t think I belong here." 394 00:15:32,241 --> 00:15:34,971 It was that good. A masterpiece. 395 00:15:35,077 --> 00:15:36,187 One of the greatest matches of all time. 396 00:15:36,278 --> 00:15:37,778 Those guys performed 397 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,180 in the ring together masterfully, 398 00:15:40,282 --> 00:15:41,852 even though they disliked each other very much. 399 00:15:41,951 --> 00:15:43,481 They were very professional, you know? 400 00:15:43,586 --> 00:15:45,426 But it tells you how great they both were. 401 00:15:45,521 --> 00:15:47,451 They put magic together. 402 00:15:48,958 --> 00:15:54,138 - The boyhood dream has come true for Shawn Michaels. 403 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:56,630 - My immaturity and my hot-headedness 404 00:15:56,732 --> 00:15:58,932 took over at that point. 405 00:15:59,034 --> 00:16:00,734 - And Shawn Michaels being awarded 406 00:16:00,836 --> 00:16:04,376 the WWE title right in front of Bret The Hitman Hart. 407 00:16:04,473 --> 00:16:06,073 - Shawn, you can see him right on camera 408 00:16:06,175 --> 00:16:07,945 telling me to get the F out of the ring. 409 00:16:09,278 --> 00:16:10,388 And he’s yelling at the referee 410 00:16:10,479 --> 00:16:11,379 who comes over and tells me 411 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:12,780 to get out of the ring. 412 00:16:12,882 --> 00:16:13,982 And I’m like, 413 00:16:14,083 --> 00:16:15,613 "I just gave you an hour match 414 00:16:15,718 --> 00:16:18,558 "of everything I could give you, 415 00:16:18,654 --> 00:16:20,454 "passed the torch to you, 416 00:16:20,556 --> 00:16:24,026 and you disrespect me like that on my way out." 417 00:16:24,126 --> 00:16:26,536 - I definitely noticed some animosity. 418 00:16:26,629 --> 00:16:28,529 and then at the end of that match 419 00:16:28,631 --> 00:16:30,461 it almost boiled completely over. 420 00:16:31,767 --> 00:16:34,737 - It’s almost a blur now, honestly. 421 00:16:34,837 --> 00:16:37,177 What I remember is Earl trying to put the belt on me. 422 00:16:37,273 --> 00:16:38,543 He snapped it in, 423 00:16:38,641 --> 00:16:40,011 and fumbling around and fumbling around, 424 00:16:40,109 --> 00:16:41,569 and that’s one of those moments where you go, like, 425 00:16:41,677 --> 00:16:44,147 "This is not turning out like I thought it would." 426 00:16:44,246 --> 00:16:45,886 We call it a cluster [bleep]. 427 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:48,409 - Bret’s walk back to the locker room 428 00:16:48,517 --> 00:16:49,927 where he’s, like, visibly pissed off. 429 00:16:50,019 --> 00:16:51,279 But, like, that’s iconic, you know? 430 00:16:51,387 --> 00:16:54,027 Like, I have the visual in my head so clearly. 431 00:16:55,925 --> 00:16:57,425 - Good business, good business. [applause] 432 00:16:57,526 --> 00:16:59,066 - Great match, brother. 433 00:17:00,095 --> 00:17:01,435 - I just thought it was part of the show. 434 00:17:01,530 --> 00:17:02,690 I didn’t think it’s any kind of 435 00:17:02,798 --> 00:17:05,398 actual personal thing going on. 436 00:17:05,501 --> 00:17:07,871 I’ve later found out that it was. 437 00:17:08,871 --> 00:17:11,071 Bret didn’t go to the WrestleMania after-party. 438 00:17:11,173 --> 00:17:12,873 At the talent one, he wasn’t there. 439 00:17:12,975 --> 00:17:14,475 Shawn was. 440 00:17:14,577 --> 00:17:17,447 - Get out! Get out. 441 00:17:17,546 --> 00:17:19,116 Get out! 442 00:17:19,214 --> 00:17:21,484 - It just all added to the real tensions 443 00:17:21,584 --> 00:17:23,184 between us as professionals. 444 00:17:29,391 --> 00:17:30,761 - And Shawn Michaels is being awarded 445 00:17:30,859 --> 00:17:34,189 the WWE title right in front of Bret The Hitman Hart. 446 00:17:34,296 --> 00:17:36,566 - At WrestleMania 12, the babyface is telling 447 00:17:36,665 --> 00:17:39,165 the other guy to get the F out of the ring. 448 00:17:40,536 --> 00:17:42,306 The whole story is filled 449 00:17:42,404 --> 00:17:44,674 with the backstage coming alive. 450 00:17:44,773 --> 00:17:46,743 - Get out! 451 00:17:46,842 --> 00:17:48,672 - Shawn and me buried the hatchet two or three times 452 00:17:48,777 --> 00:17:52,217 when we had started to get too--too tense. 453 00:17:53,315 --> 00:17:57,225 And I don’t want anybody else. I want you at 100%. 454 00:17:58,454 --> 00:18:01,194 - Bret and I always tried to catch ourselves. 455 00:18:01,290 --> 00:18:02,920 We knew that it was getting out of control. 456 00:18:03,025 --> 00:18:06,395 It’s steamrolling, and we would try to pull ourselves back. 457 00:18:06,495 --> 00:18:08,295 And every time we would do that, 458 00:18:08,397 --> 00:18:09,867 something would happen. 459 00:18:09,965 --> 00:18:12,565 [explosions booming] 460 00:18:13,235 --> 00:18:14,505 [tense music] 461 00:18:14,603 --> 00:18:16,343 - The World Wrestling Federation needs a hero. 462 00:18:16,438 --> 00:18:17,798 They need a role model. 463 00:18:17,906 --> 00:18:19,916 They need somebody they can look up to. 464 00:18:20,009 --> 00:18:23,409 Not somebody that poses for girly magazines. 465 00:18:23,512 --> 00:18:25,042 - In my mind, you have two choices. 466 00:18:25,147 --> 00:18:28,257 I can either crawl inside myself and fold, 467 00:18:28,350 --> 00:18:30,220 or I’d come back guns a-blazing. 468 00:18:30,319 --> 00:18:34,519 By the way, how’d you know I was in that girly magazine? 469 00:18:34,623 --> 00:18:36,723 You couldn’t help yourself, could ya? 470 00:18:36,825 --> 00:18:39,795 You had to flip through the pages just a little bit. 471 00:18:41,463 --> 00:18:44,433 - There’s a lot of times when you have personal tension 472 00:18:44,533 --> 00:18:47,003 that it translates well on television. 473 00:18:47,102 --> 00:18:49,272 - Look out! Wait, wait, Shawn Michaels, no! 474 00:18:49,371 --> 00:18:51,601 - I think the whole thing added to the mystique 475 00:18:51,707 --> 00:18:54,077 and to the rivalry itself. 476 00:18:54,176 --> 00:18:56,746 - Hitman, when I get a hold of you, 477 00:18:56,845 --> 00:18:59,815 I am gonna tear you to pieces. 478 00:18:59,915 --> 00:19:01,885 I guarantee it. 479 00:19:01,984 --> 00:19:03,784 - It was really great television. 480 00:19:03,886 --> 00:19:05,286 And they were the best. 481 00:19:05,387 --> 00:19:10,297 - Shawn Michaels, I will kick your ass. 482 00:19:11,593 --> 00:19:13,263 - Shawn Michaels-- they were pushing the envelope, 483 00:19:13,362 --> 00:19:14,732 and Bret wasn’t about that. 484 00:19:14,830 --> 00:19:16,430 He wasn’t about pointing at your crotch 485 00:19:16,532 --> 00:19:18,102 or pulling your pants down. 486 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,270 - You’re a disgrace to wrestling. 487 00:19:20,369 --> 00:19:23,339 You’re nothing but a degenerate. 488 00:19:23,439 --> 00:19:24,569 - It took on a life of its own. 489 00:19:24,673 --> 00:19:25,743 It was very, very personal. 490 00:19:25,841 --> 00:19:27,111 - What? 491 00:19:27,209 --> 00:19:29,039 I love Canada. 492 00:19:29,144 --> 00:19:31,644 - You were seeing real-life drama play out on television. 493 00:19:31,747 --> 00:19:34,557 - I can’t stand you, and you make me sick. 494 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:35,810 - That was different than 495 00:19:35,918 --> 00:19:37,458 the rest of the things happening on the show. 496 00:19:37,553 --> 00:19:39,223 [cheering] 497 00:19:39,988 --> 00:19:41,988 - To me, coming from down in Tennessee, 498 00:19:42,091 --> 00:19:45,321 we used to have a sign on the wall in our office 499 00:19:45,427 --> 00:19:49,037 that said "Personal issues draw money." 500 00:19:49,131 --> 00:19:51,531 - You’re nothing but a punk. 501 00:19:51,633 --> 00:19:52,863 - I think it was the first time 502 00:19:52,968 --> 00:19:54,898 that we were trying to view the product 503 00:19:55,003 --> 00:19:57,003 as a little more reality-based. 504 00:19:57,106 --> 00:19:59,976 That there are human beings behind the characters 505 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:01,945 and that the human beings have feelings. 506 00:20:02,044 --> 00:20:03,544 Sometimes those feelings get hurt. 507 00:20:03,645 --> 00:20:05,545 - I’m not gonna lie to you. 508 00:20:05,647 --> 00:20:10,157 Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels loath one another 509 00:20:10,252 --> 00:20:13,722 whether it be out here or back there. 510 00:20:13,822 --> 00:20:16,492 - Bret was way more vulnerable than Shawn, 511 00:20:16,592 --> 00:20:18,062 and Shawn had the gift of gab, 512 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,260 which bothered Bret, 513 00:20:20,362 --> 00:20:23,702 and I think that was sort of the seeds of things to come. 514 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:26,029 - You know, we started out pretending to be real, 515 00:20:26,135 --> 00:20:27,205 and then it got real. 516 00:20:27,302 --> 00:20:30,202 - Hitman, I’ve seen you on the road, 517 00:20:30,305 --> 00:20:33,245 and bro, you ain’t no role model. 518 00:20:33,342 --> 00:20:35,672 - I’ll say anything on television. 519 00:20:35,778 --> 00:20:36,988 I have no shame. 520 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,750 - The real turning point was the promo 521 00:20:40,849 --> 00:20:44,819 that Shawn cut on "Raw" about Bret having Sunny days. 522 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:49,550 - Even though lately you’ve had some Sunny days, my friend, 523 00:20:49,658 --> 00:20:52,858 you still can’t get the job done. 524 00:20:52,961 --> 00:20:54,461 - That was implying that there was 525 00:20:54,563 --> 00:20:57,503 something going on between Bret and Sunny, 526 00:20:57,599 --> 00:20:58,859 who was a valet. 527 00:20:58,967 --> 00:21:01,807 - Look at Sunny. She looks great, doesn’t she? 528 00:21:01,904 --> 00:21:04,204 - Basically said Bret slept with Sunny. 529 00:21:04,306 --> 00:21:06,746 - The Sunny days that are supposed to have happened, 530 00:21:06,842 --> 00:21:08,342 they’ve never happened. 531 00:21:08,443 --> 00:21:11,613 He crossed the line that nobody should ever cross. 532 00:21:11,713 --> 00:21:13,113 You know, those are the kinda of things 533 00:21:13,215 --> 00:21:15,355 that could topple my marriage. 534 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:16,920 When I came home the next day, 535 00:21:17,019 --> 00:21:19,319 my son Dallas had been at school. 536 00:21:19,421 --> 00:21:20,891 First thing he asked me, he goes, 537 00:21:20,989 --> 00:21:23,759 "So what’s going on with you and Sunny?" 538 00:21:23,859 --> 00:21:25,189 I got really mad then. 539 00:21:26,228 --> 00:21:28,498 - Breaking the fourth wall, peeling the curtain back, 540 00:21:28,597 --> 00:21:30,137 it’s everything. 541 00:21:30,232 --> 00:21:31,662 It’s breaking every rule. 542 00:21:32,501 --> 00:21:34,131 - At that time in my life, 543 00:21:34,236 --> 00:21:36,676 single, successful, 544 00:21:36,772 --> 00:21:38,442 not a care in the world. 545 00:21:38,540 --> 00:21:40,470 I used to tell everybody all the time, 546 00:21:40,576 --> 00:21:42,946 "Dude, you are bringing a frickin’ spoon 547 00:21:43,045 --> 00:21:45,415 to a guy with a frickin’ shotgun." 548 00:21:45,514 --> 00:21:47,284 I got nothing to lose. 549 00:21:48,450 --> 00:21:51,880 - Two words which every fan remembers--Sunny days. 550 00:21:51,987 --> 00:21:54,457 - Shawn had nothing to lose. - Yeah. 551 00:21:54,556 --> 00:21:56,226 [laughter] 552 00:21:56,325 --> 00:21:57,995 - Shawn’s single. - Right. 553 00:21:58,093 --> 00:22:00,233 - You know when two guys are on a collision course for-- 554 00:22:00,329 --> 00:22:01,929 for a fight at some point. 555 00:22:02,030 --> 00:22:03,630 We knew it probably wouldn’t happen in the ring 556 00:22:03,732 --> 00:22:05,162 ’cause they were both very professional. 557 00:22:05,267 --> 00:22:07,007 We knew it’d probably happen backstage. 558 00:22:07,102 --> 00:22:08,902 We were just hoping we’d all get to see it. 559 00:22:09,004 --> 00:22:11,474 [fireworks exploding] 560 00:22:11,573 --> 00:22:12,843 - Yes, indeed! 561 00:22:12,941 --> 00:22:17,381 They are ready for action tonight on "Raw". 562 00:22:17,479 --> 00:22:20,279 - I flew in for the TVs for Hartford. 563 00:22:20,382 --> 00:22:24,222 I made up my mind that I was gonna snatch Shawn. 564 00:22:24,319 --> 00:22:26,849 I was really ready to kill him when I saw him. 565 00:22:28,056 --> 00:22:30,096 Walked right up to him, pushed him with my hands 566 00:22:30,192 --> 00:22:31,162 against the wall. 567 00:22:31,260 --> 00:22:32,890 - All of a sudden, these two guys 568 00:22:32,995 --> 00:22:34,195 burst through the wall. 569 00:22:34,296 --> 00:22:36,136 - Some other people came and pulled us apart, 570 00:22:36,231 --> 00:22:37,761 and--[imitates ripping] as he did that, 571 00:22:37,866 --> 00:22:39,236 he ripped out a huge clump of hair. 572 00:22:39,334 --> 00:22:40,774 - It was one of the wildest scenes 573 00:22:40,869 --> 00:22:42,269 that I’ve ever witnessed in all the years 574 00:22:42,371 --> 00:22:43,801 I’ve been in the business. 575 00:22:45,140 --> 00:22:47,710 - These two men were done being professional. 576 00:22:47,809 --> 00:22:52,039 They had an actual fight that broke down in the locker room. 577 00:22:52,147 --> 00:22:55,487 - They just didn’t--genuinely didn’t like each other at all. 578 00:22:55,584 --> 00:22:58,254 It’s much tougher to work with somebody 579 00:22:58,353 --> 00:23:00,853 that you don’t like because you don’t trust ’em. 580 00:23:00,956 --> 00:23:02,196 - It must’ve been miserable for everybody 581 00:23:02,291 --> 00:23:03,661 to go through, too, in the locker room 582 00:23:03,759 --> 00:23:07,289 and the drama and your two main guys constantly at it. 583 00:23:07,863 --> 00:23:09,133 - [bleep] you. 584 00:23:09,231 --> 00:23:11,001 - It made things interesting to go to work. 585 00:23:12,501 --> 00:23:15,001 ’Cause you never knew. Like, it was a powder keg. 586 00:23:15,103 --> 00:23:16,403 [cheering] [bell dings] 587 00:23:16,505 --> 00:23:21,415 - And Bret Hart is once again WWE champion. 588 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:23,640 - Bret was still kind of unhappy. 589 00:23:23,745 --> 00:23:25,785 And this was also during a time 590 00:23:25,881 --> 00:23:28,051 that Bret’s contract was coming to an end. 591 00:23:28,817 --> 00:23:32,857 WCW, our competitors, were offering guaranteed contracts. 592 00:23:32,955 --> 00:23:34,025 - They made their offer to me, 593 00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:35,922 and I finally got it in my fax machine. 594 00:23:36,024 --> 00:23:37,194 And it was right there, 595 00:23:37,292 --> 00:23:38,562 and it’s, like, all I have to do is sign it, 596 00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:40,160 and then I call Vince. 597 00:23:46,068 --> 00:23:48,108 - The story of Bret leaving WWE 598 00:23:48,203 --> 00:23:50,103 is actually pretty complicated 599 00:23:50,205 --> 00:23:54,075 because there’d been a bidding war between WCW and WWE. 600 00:23:54,176 --> 00:23:56,486 - Bret was negotiating on the other side, 601 00:23:56,578 --> 00:24:00,648 seeing if the grass was greener down south at WCW. 602 00:24:00,749 --> 00:24:03,719 - This was right at the height of the Monday Night Wars. 603 00:24:03,819 --> 00:24:05,219 People had jumped ship, 604 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,690 but nobody of the stature of Bret The Hitman Hart, 605 00:24:08,790 --> 00:24:11,190 because he was the champion. 606 00:24:11,293 --> 00:24:13,463 - It was very hard for me to picture 607 00:24:13,562 --> 00:24:16,762 the WWE without Bret in it. 608 00:24:16,865 --> 00:24:19,465 I just figured it would get worked out. 609 00:24:19,568 --> 00:24:22,478 - Bret was being offered the highest contract of all time. 610 00:24:22,571 --> 00:24:25,771 - Yeah, I think I got offered about 2.6 million a year, 611 00:24:25,874 --> 00:24:28,014 and I remember Vince pretty much said, 612 00:24:28,110 --> 00:24:29,940 "You better take the WCW contract." 613 00:24:30,045 --> 00:24:32,245 - Is he going WCW? 614 00:24:32,347 --> 00:24:34,787 - Well, I’ll tell you exactly what-- 615 00:24:34,883 --> 00:24:36,253 what situation I’m in right now. 616 00:24:36,351 --> 00:24:39,621 I’ve given my 30-day notice. 617 00:24:39,721 --> 00:24:41,391 It is common knowledge at this point 618 00:24:41,490 --> 00:24:43,090 that Bret is going. 619 00:24:43,191 --> 00:24:46,991 - But at the same time, he’s WWE champion. 620 00:24:47,095 --> 00:24:48,365 So you have to figure out 621 00:24:48,463 --> 00:24:51,033 okay, how do you maneuver through that? 622 00:24:52,267 --> 00:24:54,637 - I’ve got you in the Survivor Series, 623 00:24:54,736 --> 00:24:56,276 and when that day comes, 624 00:24:56,371 --> 00:24:58,871 I’m gonna kick your little scrawny ass. 625 00:24:59,307 --> 00:25:01,577 [cheering] 626 00:25:01,676 --> 00:25:03,716 I found out I was wrestling Shawn. 627 00:25:03,812 --> 00:25:07,352 It was me and Shawn at Survivor Series in Montreal. 628 00:25:07,449 --> 00:25:08,709 I remember I said, "Hey, Shawn, 629 00:25:08,817 --> 00:25:11,227 "I know we’re wrestling at Survivor Series, 630 00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:12,519 "and I just want you to know, 631 00:25:12,621 --> 00:25:14,221 "I don’t have any problem whatever the finish is. 632 00:25:14,322 --> 00:25:17,022 Like, if they want you to win. I’m okay with that." 633 00:25:17,125 --> 00:25:19,595 I’ve always been a company guy, and I’m professional. 634 00:25:19,694 --> 00:25:22,464 And I remember Shawn looked at me and said-- 635 00:25:22,564 --> 00:25:24,364 he goes, "I appreciate that, but I just want you to know 636 00:25:24,466 --> 00:25:26,366 that I would never do the same thing for you." 637 00:25:27,602 --> 00:25:28,732 - It’s a dicey thing, 638 00:25:28,837 --> 00:25:30,677 but I don’t have any recollection of it. 639 00:25:30,772 --> 00:25:33,342 At the very least, I’ve never tried to run away 640 00:25:33,442 --> 00:25:37,042 from my very blatant unprofessionalism back then. 641 00:25:37,145 --> 00:25:39,115 - When I told Vince I said, "I can’t drop the belt 642 00:25:39,214 --> 00:25:41,114 "to a guy that would be that unprofessional 643 00:25:41,216 --> 00:25:43,856 and tell me that he would never do the same thing for me." 644 00:25:46,188 --> 00:25:48,658 - Doesn’t matter whether it’s Shawn or anybody else. 645 00:25:48,757 --> 00:25:50,567 This is what you do for the company 646 00:25:50,659 --> 00:25:52,259 that you helped build. 647 00:25:52,360 --> 00:25:54,060 - Everybody was talking in the locker rooms. 648 00:25:54,162 --> 00:25:56,932 "Can you imagine if Bret jumped ship, 649 00:25:57,032 --> 00:26:00,472 shows up at WCW, and he’s still our champion?" 650 00:26:00,569 --> 00:26:02,129 - Bret couldn’t be allowed 651 00:26:02,237 --> 00:26:04,407 to go to WCW with the championship. 652 00:26:04,506 --> 00:26:06,176 He had to drop that title 653 00:26:06,274 --> 00:26:08,174 to somebody in WWE. 654 00:26:08,276 --> 00:26:09,876 There was no way 655 00:26:09,978 --> 00:26:12,338 we could allow Bret to go to WCW 656 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:14,157 with that championship. 657 00:26:14,249 --> 00:26:15,479 ♪ ♪ 658 00:26:15,584 --> 00:26:17,284 - You gotta understand, Bret Hart said 659 00:26:17,385 --> 00:26:18,685 he was not gonna leave with the title. 660 00:26:18,787 --> 00:26:20,597 That he would not use it at WCW. 661 00:26:20,689 --> 00:26:22,149 Bret Hart’s a man of integrity. 662 00:26:22,257 --> 00:26:23,567 I believe Brett. 663 00:26:23,658 --> 00:26:25,018 Problem is, Bischoff had already done it. 664 00:26:25,127 --> 00:26:26,567 - And that’s what it’s all about. 665 00:26:26,661 --> 00:26:28,191 The current title holder. 666 00:26:28,296 --> 00:26:29,566 - Madusa goes down there and throws 667 00:26:29,664 --> 00:26:31,904 the women’s championship in the trash. 668 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,370 - And that’s what I think 669 00:26:33,468 --> 00:26:35,968 of the WWE women’s championship belt. 670 00:26:36,071 --> 00:26:38,441 - We’re losing one of our great champions. 671 00:26:38,540 --> 00:26:40,540 We can’t lose the championship with it. 672 00:26:42,744 --> 00:26:47,284 - Welcome, everyone, to the 11th annual Survivor Series. 673 00:26:47,382 --> 00:26:49,882 [cheers and applause] 674 00:26:49,985 --> 00:26:53,625 - There were rumblings as far as how are we gonna do this 675 00:26:53,722 --> 00:26:55,852 from Bret for the entire week. 676 00:26:55,957 --> 00:26:58,097 There was a documentary that was there, 677 00:26:58,193 --> 00:27:01,063 and they secretly recorded the conversation. 678 00:27:08,036 --> 00:27:10,046 - The championship does not change hands 679 00:27:10,138 --> 00:27:11,538 on a disqualification. 680 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,170 In order for a championship to change hands, 681 00:27:14,276 --> 00:27:17,646 you have to win by a pinfall or a submission. 682 00:27:17,746 --> 00:27:19,386 - There was lots of things we could have done 683 00:27:19,481 --> 00:27:22,211 that would have been okay. 684 00:27:22,317 --> 00:27:23,557 - That’s not Bret’s choice. 685 00:27:23,652 --> 00:27:25,582 And it’s not what we wanted-- 686 00:27:25,687 --> 00:27:30,167 from a creative point of view, what we wanted to. 687 00:27:30,258 --> 00:27:34,658 Bret was unwilling to do what he needed to do 688 00:27:34,763 --> 00:27:36,133 which was make sure 689 00:27:36,231 --> 00:27:38,101 that Shawn left that night as the champion. 690 00:27:39,568 --> 00:27:42,378 - I want to say the Wednesday before that pay-per-view, 691 00:27:42,470 --> 00:27:43,900 I was in Texas, 692 00:27:44,005 --> 00:27:46,005 on the telephone with Vince McMahon, 693 00:27:46,107 --> 00:27:47,947 discussing about the belt not leaving the WWE. 694 00:27:49,077 --> 00:27:51,217 And of course sort of talking around the whole, 695 00:27:51,313 --> 00:27:53,243 like, "Do we wanna, you know, 696 00:27:53,348 --> 00:27:54,558 we wanna frickin’ get that thing 697 00:27:54,649 --> 00:27:55,879 by hook or by crook. 698 00:27:55,984 --> 00:27:57,254 And Vince was like, "What are we talking about? 699 00:27:57,352 --> 00:27:58,722 And you know, "Look, I’ll do whatever 700 00:27:58,820 --> 00:28:00,250 it is you want me to do." 701 00:28:02,991 --> 00:28:06,321 - Shawn seemed like he didn’t want any problems with me. 702 00:28:06,428 --> 00:28:08,298 We had a big talk in the dressing room 703 00:28:08,396 --> 00:28:09,796 for maybe at least an hour 704 00:28:09,898 --> 00:28:11,868 about how he was sorry that things got 705 00:28:11,967 --> 00:28:14,507 the way they did and sorry that I was leaving. 706 00:28:14,603 --> 00:28:16,133 - You know, how did we get here? 707 00:28:16,238 --> 00:28:18,608 I guess at one time X amount of years ago, 708 00:28:18,707 --> 00:28:21,147 you know, we’re pretty decent friends, you know? 709 00:28:21,243 --> 00:28:23,413 And we really liked each other and it--and it really did it. 710 00:28:23,511 --> 00:28:26,751 I mean, it--it did suck. 711 00:28:26,848 --> 00:28:28,548 - This is what it’s all about. 712 00:28:28,650 --> 00:28:31,520 How many times have we heard Shawn Michael say 713 00:28:31,620 --> 00:28:33,220 "I don’t lay down for anybody?" 714 00:28:33,321 --> 00:28:35,291 - Well, folks, this is very, very personal. 715 00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:37,360 This match is gonna be stiff. 716 00:28:37,459 --> 00:28:41,389 - The Survivor Series is a masterpiece of a match. 717 00:28:41,496 --> 00:28:43,536 - Oh, my God! What a suplex! 718 00:28:43,632 --> 00:28:45,762 - Poured my heart out in that match, 719 00:28:45,867 --> 00:28:47,977 and Shawn’s working his heart out. 720 00:28:48,069 --> 00:28:51,139 - It’s just a down and dirty fight between two guys 721 00:28:51,239 --> 00:28:53,569 that hate each other’s guts. 722 00:28:53,675 --> 00:28:56,675 - We’re ten minutes into the actual match. 723 00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:58,138 The match was gonna go 40 minutes. 724 00:29:00,148 --> 00:29:03,308 - It’s in Montreal, so I’m there in person. 725 00:29:03,418 --> 00:29:05,158 I didn’t know Vince was the owner. 726 00:29:05,253 --> 00:29:06,323 I didn’t know this. 727 00:29:06,421 --> 00:29:08,551 I just thought Vince was a commentator. 728 00:29:08,657 --> 00:29:10,197 So then at one point during the match, 729 00:29:10,292 --> 00:29:12,092 he comes out in this suit, and I’m like, 730 00:29:12,193 --> 00:29:14,233 "What is going on?" And I was so confused. 731 00:29:14,329 --> 00:29:16,059 Like, "Why is Vince McMahon there?" 732 00:29:16,164 --> 00:29:18,764 - I see Vince McMahon there. - Get him to the ring. 733 00:29:18,867 --> 00:29:22,077 - Trying to convince these guys to get in the ring. 734 00:29:22,170 --> 00:29:24,570 - He wanted Bret to see him there. 735 00:29:24,673 --> 00:29:26,503 He wanted Bret to know 736 00:29:26,608 --> 00:29:27,818 that whatever went down 737 00:29:27,909 --> 00:29:30,009 was his decision to have it happen. 738 00:29:30,912 --> 00:29:32,142 - Oh, you’re kidding me. 739 00:29:32,247 --> 00:29:34,057 - Michaels-- - Are you kidding me? 740 00:29:34,149 --> 00:29:35,979 - Is he gonna try and beat Bret Hart with a Sharpshooter? 741 00:29:36,084 --> 00:29:37,824 Yes, he is! 742 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:39,649 - Shawn puts him in the Sharpshooter. 743 00:29:39,754 --> 00:29:41,054 Bret’s in it, and he never tapped. 744 00:29:41,156 --> 00:29:42,396 And all of a sudden, the bell rings. 745 00:29:42,490 --> 00:29:44,020 - Ring the bell! Ring the bell! 746 00:29:44,125 --> 00:29:45,695 [bell dings] 747 00:29:45,794 --> 00:29:47,394 [Shawn Michaels’ theme playing] 748 00:29:47,495 --> 00:29:49,595 - Well, you talk about controversy. 749 00:29:49,698 --> 00:29:51,468 - And that’s when I knew they screwed me. 750 00:29:56,871 --> 00:29:58,401 - Look at this. - Oh, you’re kidding me. 751 00:29:58,506 --> 00:30:00,216 - Michaels-- - Are you kidding me? 752 00:30:00,308 --> 00:30:02,168 - Is he gonna try and beat Bret Hart with a Sharpshooter? 753 00:30:02,277 --> 00:30:03,847 Yes, he is! 754 00:30:03,945 --> 00:30:06,215 - Shawn put Bret in the Sharpshooter, 755 00:30:06,314 --> 00:30:07,954 and Earl Hebner rang the bell. 756 00:30:08,049 --> 00:30:09,279 - Ring the bell! 757 00:30:09,384 --> 00:30:11,984 Ring the bell! [bell dings] 758 00:30:12,087 --> 00:30:14,857 - Shawn wins, and they just act like Bret tapped out. 759 00:30:14,956 --> 00:30:17,426 - Bret Hart gave up on the Sharpshooter. 760 00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:21,265 - Vince was doing what was best for business. 761 00:30:21,363 --> 00:30:22,593 - All of a sudden, Bret just 762 00:30:22,697 --> 00:30:23,907 looked him right in the eye and went... 763 00:30:23,998 --> 00:30:25,298 [snorting] 764 00:30:27,068 --> 00:30:30,638 I said, "Did he just spit in Vince McMahon’s eye?" 765 00:30:30,739 --> 00:30:32,099 That’s the moment, for me, 766 00:30:32,207 --> 00:30:36,317 that I knew everything had gone off the rails. 767 00:30:36,411 --> 00:30:39,411 - Bret just disrespecting Vince. 768 00:30:39,514 --> 00:30:41,354 He didn’t really care. You know, it washes off. 769 00:30:42,917 --> 00:30:46,527 - What he did to me was a huge betrayal to me. 770 00:30:46,621 --> 00:30:47,621 - It’s all a blur to me. 771 00:30:47,722 --> 00:30:48,792 And-- [imitates rocket] 772 00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:51,260 I was out of there like a scalded dog. 773 00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:52,789 - I was at the gorilla position, 774 00:30:52,894 --> 00:30:54,334 which is the last bastion 775 00:30:54,429 --> 00:30:55,789 before you walk out to the curtain. 776 00:30:55,897 --> 00:30:57,307 And at that point... 777 00:31:00,335 --> 00:31:01,935 - I was by myself in Vince’s office, 778 00:31:02,036 --> 00:31:04,206 watching it on the monitor. 779 00:31:04,305 --> 00:31:06,175 It goes down, and I’m just like, 780 00:31:06,274 --> 00:31:10,614 "Holy crap. This is about to blow up." 781 00:31:10,712 --> 00:31:12,712 - We were just as stunned as everyone else. 782 00:31:12,814 --> 00:31:15,454 We had no idea what had just happened. 783 00:31:15,550 --> 00:31:17,850 - The entire arena could tell that Bret was screwed. 784 00:31:17,952 --> 00:31:20,622 So that’s where it was called the Montreal Screw Job. 785 00:31:22,290 --> 00:31:24,620 - This was the moment that changed wrestling 786 00:31:24,726 --> 00:31:27,596 for an entire generation and forever more. 787 00:31:27,695 --> 00:31:30,265 - It was almost, like, kind of anticlimactic. 788 00:31:30,365 --> 00:31:31,605 - It was such confusion! - The match was going great, 789 00:31:31,699 --> 00:31:32,929 and there was so much confusion. 790 00:31:33,034 --> 00:31:34,604 Like, wait, what happened? Did he tap? 791 00:31:34,702 --> 00:31:35,672 Why is the bell ringing? 792 00:31:35,770 --> 00:31:37,070 Why are they-- you know, what’s-- 793 00:31:37,172 --> 00:31:39,502 just chaos in the ring, and then Bret being pissed. 794 00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:44,640 - The reaction that Bret had. 795 00:31:44,746 --> 00:31:46,586 Like, his emotions and just everything. 796 00:31:46,681 --> 00:31:48,951 and him walking around he’s just, like, so furious. 797 00:31:49,050 --> 00:31:50,780 - After he spits and does everything else, 798 00:31:50,885 --> 00:31:55,795 he goes W-C-W on that screen. 799 00:31:57,192 --> 00:31:58,422 - For all of our animosity, 800 00:31:58,526 --> 00:32:01,066 for all of the rivalry that he and I had, 801 00:32:01,162 --> 00:32:02,462 I was the bad guy. 802 00:32:02,564 --> 00:32:04,234 And then on that night, 803 00:32:04,332 --> 00:32:06,402 I was gonna frickin’ make it even worse, 804 00:32:06,501 --> 00:32:08,371 and never be able to-- never be able to turn 805 00:32:08,470 --> 00:32:10,170 that back again ever. 806 00:32:12,941 --> 00:32:14,741 - I walk in, and I said to Shawn I just go, 807 00:32:14,843 --> 00:32:16,513 "Well, were you in on that?" 808 00:32:16,611 --> 00:32:18,941 "Shawn, you weren’t in on that?" 809 00:32:19,047 --> 00:32:21,517 - My hands are clean of this one, I swear to God. 810 00:32:21,616 --> 00:32:23,486 Vince told me, "You deny it no matter what." 811 00:32:23,585 --> 00:32:25,725 So I told him no. 812 00:32:25,820 --> 00:32:28,320 It wasn’t fun to do. 813 00:32:28,423 --> 00:32:30,563 - So Bret’s on one side of the room, 814 00:32:30,658 --> 00:32:32,118 Vince is on the other side of the room. 815 00:32:32,227 --> 00:32:33,667 And so Shawn was there. 816 00:32:33,761 --> 00:32:35,231 I was sitting next to Shawn. 817 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:37,900 Vince is over here. Bret’s down here. 818 00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:39,729 And it’s going back and forth, 819 00:32:39,834 --> 00:32:40,874 and I do remember Shawn 820 00:32:40,969 --> 00:32:42,629 trying to chime in at one point. 821 00:32:42,737 --> 00:32:45,047 I remember grabbing his leg and saying, "No, 822 00:32:45,139 --> 00:32:46,839 this isn’t the time. Shut up." 823 00:32:46,941 --> 00:32:49,041 Vince is explaining his position. 824 00:32:49,143 --> 00:32:52,183 - Vince told Bret, "What’d you expect me to do? 825 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,750 "I did it for the company. 826 00:32:53,848 --> 00:32:56,078 "I did it for everybody in this locker room. 827 00:32:56,184 --> 00:32:58,424 And I’d do it again." 828 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,020 - Vince and me walked towards each other 829 00:33:00,121 --> 00:33:02,391 just like two wrestlers. 830 00:33:02,490 --> 00:33:04,320 I walked towards him. He came right towards me. 831 00:33:04,425 --> 00:33:07,295 So it wasn’t just me going and attacking a man. 832 00:33:07,395 --> 00:33:10,705 Like, he came. It was a accepted fight. 833 00:33:10,798 --> 00:33:13,398 I hit Vince with a right-hand punch. 834 00:33:13,501 --> 00:33:17,901 It was--like, it was a knockout punch. 835 00:33:18,006 --> 00:33:19,246 - Looking back on it, 836 00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:21,640 it produced very real feelings. 837 00:33:21,743 --> 00:33:23,913 - Bret, The Hitman Hart, he got cheated. 838 00:33:24,012 --> 00:33:26,082 - That’s disgusting. 839 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:29,610 - It’s an injustice. It’s not fair. 840 00:33:29,717 --> 00:33:31,827 - Also wrapped Shawn Michaels in a perception 841 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 that to this day he can never shake. 842 00:33:34,422 --> 00:33:36,422 Shawn Michaels is a wonderful human being, 843 00:33:36,524 --> 00:33:38,294 but if you’re somebody who liked Bret, 844 00:33:38,393 --> 00:33:39,623 he’s a piece of [bleep]. 845 00:33:39,727 --> 00:33:42,237 - This was not something that was going away. 846 00:33:42,330 --> 00:33:44,260 It really bothered me. 847 00:33:44,365 --> 00:33:45,735 I was obsessed with it. 848 00:33:45,833 --> 00:33:48,973 I mean, even when I was in WCW. 849 00:33:49,070 --> 00:33:51,800 Nobody knows better than I do 850 00:33:51,906 --> 00:33:55,676 what it’s like to get screwed over by a referee. 851 00:33:55,777 --> 00:33:58,887 I remember actually being in a WCW show. 852 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:01,050 We were both in the same town. 853 00:34:01,149 --> 00:34:02,709 I went to my room and stayed my room 854 00:34:02,817 --> 00:34:04,127 so I wouldn’t bump into him. 855 00:34:04,218 --> 00:34:05,978 Like, I feared, like, if I bumped into Shawn, 856 00:34:06,087 --> 00:34:07,757 and he walked in the same elevator with me-- 857 00:34:07,855 --> 00:34:09,295 I’m not exaggerating when I tell you 858 00:34:09,390 --> 00:34:10,620 I think there’s a possibility 859 00:34:10,725 --> 00:34:13,225 that I could have killed him with my bare hands. 860 00:34:13,328 --> 00:34:17,838 ♪ ♪ 861 00:34:17,932 --> 00:34:20,632 - Both guys kind of went in a gloom and doom direction 862 00:34:20,735 --> 00:34:23,275 in their personal lives and in their careers. 863 00:34:23,371 --> 00:34:26,041 For Shawn, an unfortunate accident 864 00:34:26,140 --> 00:34:27,240 in a Royal Rumble Match-- 865 00:34:29,243 --> 00:34:31,083 He literally broke his back 866 00:34:31,179 --> 00:34:34,509 and he had to step away from the business for a while. 867 00:34:35,450 --> 00:34:36,680 Bret, same thing. 868 00:34:36,784 --> 00:34:39,724 Bret had a career-ending injury in the ring. 869 00:34:39,821 --> 00:34:41,691 - Standing side kick. 870 00:34:43,024 --> 00:34:44,394 - Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart were 871 00:34:44,492 --> 00:34:46,562 the pinnacle of the industry. 872 00:34:46,661 --> 00:34:50,091 Both were gone a few years after Montreal. 873 00:34:51,733 --> 00:34:53,973 - I was at such a crappy place then. 874 00:34:55,637 --> 00:34:57,847 Finding something more important than this stuff 875 00:34:57,939 --> 00:34:59,569 was obviously huge. 876 00:34:59,674 --> 00:35:00,814 Come here, girl. [kisses] 877 00:35:01,376 --> 00:35:02,976 - Yeah! 878 00:35:03,077 --> 00:35:06,187 - After he got married and had a family and matured, 879 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,250 he quit being Shawn Michaels outside of the ring. 880 00:35:09,350 --> 00:35:11,420 - And he took the steps to turn his life around 881 00:35:11,519 --> 00:35:14,989 which is a long, long way from the way it was in the 90s. 882 00:35:16,424 --> 00:35:17,924 - Shawn was able to come back. 883 00:35:18,026 --> 00:35:19,366 Shawn was able to become 884 00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:23,690 a completely new human being behind the scenes. 885 00:35:23,798 --> 00:35:27,708 - I could tell that Shawn had a sort of a skip in his walk. 886 00:35:27,802 --> 00:35:30,302 I think anybody that remembers and knows me from those days 887 00:35:30,405 --> 00:35:33,745 would say, "Yeah you were pretty mad for a long time." 888 00:35:33,841 --> 00:35:40,881 I’ve always expected a proper and more fitting-- 889 00:35:43,718 --> 00:35:47,158 I don’t know if apology is the right word, but just to-- 890 00:35:47,255 --> 00:35:49,695 someone to own up for what happened 891 00:35:49,791 --> 00:35:52,121 and accept responsibility 892 00:35:52,226 --> 00:35:55,536 for the actions that were taken. 893 00:35:55,630 --> 00:35:56,930 I made the comparison a lot of times 894 00:35:57,031 --> 00:35:59,101 it was like carrying a big bag of rocks around. 895 00:36:00,435 --> 00:36:02,035 - Since the Montreal Screw Job, 896 00:36:02,136 --> 00:36:03,836 I never ran into Bret. 897 00:36:03,938 --> 00:36:07,368 We never spoke for easily more than a decade. 898 00:36:07,475 --> 00:36:09,515 I know that there are times that I mentioned 899 00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:12,580 that I would love to be able to put that behind us. 900 00:36:13,214 --> 00:36:15,554 Things that led to it were TJ. 901 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:18,220 - TJ told Shawn, "Yeah well, I’m, like, you know, 902 00:36:18,319 --> 00:36:19,419 close to the Hart family." 903 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,320 And TJ said to-- to Shawn he’s, like, 904 00:36:21,422 --> 00:36:22,422 "Yeah, I think Bret would be, like, 905 00:36:22,523 --> 00:36:24,493 really open to talking to you." 906 00:36:24,592 --> 00:36:26,462 - Shawn started to get a little bit emotional 907 00:36:26,561 --> 00:36:29,291 and he said some days he just would like to fly up 908 00:36:29,397 --> 00:36:30,907 to Calgary and knock on Bret’s door, 909 00:36:30,998 --> 00:36:32,628 and if Bret punches him out, 910 00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:34,904 that’s okay as long as they can talk after. 911 00:36:35,002 --> 00:36:38,772 - And TJ told me that, and that meant a lot to me. 912 00:36:38,873 --> 00:36:41,713 I was like, "Okay, you know, at least he feels bad." 913 00:36:42,677 --> 00:36:43,877 - The bombshell that Bret hit me with 914 00:36:43,978 --> 00:36:46,208 at the very end of our conversation was, 915 00:36:46,314 --> 00:36:47,214 "Give Shawn my number 916 00:36:47,315 --> 00:36:48,285 "and I’ll see if he calls me. 917 00:36:48,382 --> 00:36:51,222 And then I’ll see how sincere he is." 918 00:36:51,319 --> 00:36:52,479 I remember thinking, "Wow." 919 00:37:00,294 --> 00:37:01,734 - Every couple of weeks, like, Bret would be like, 920 00:37:01,829 --> 00:37:03,029 "He hasn’t called." 921 00:37:03,131 --> 00:37:04,931 There was a very big part of me that knew 922 00:37:05,032 --> 00:37:07,232 with all the history these two had, 923 00:37:07,335 --> 00:37:08,805 they have to see each other face-to-face. 924 00:37:08,903 --> 00:37:10,673 They can’t--a phone call is not gonna do 925 00:37:10,772 --> 00:37:12,702 a damn thing with these two. 926 00:37:12,807 --> 00:37:14,947 - I remember Shawn said he was too scared to call me 927 00:37:15,042 --> 00:37:17,482 and so he never called me and it never got resolved. 928 00:37:17,578 --> 00:37:19,678 I remember saying "I just wanna see him in person 929 00:37:19,781 --> 00:37:21,511 and we’ll bury the hatchet." 930 00:37:25,119 --> 00:37:28,049 It all comes back. 931 00:37:28,156 --> 00:37:29,856 - Since the Montreal Screw Job, 932 00:37:29,957 --> 00:37:32,697 I don’t recall Bret Hart and myself 933 00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:36,434 ever seeing or talking to each other 934 00:37:36,531 --> 00:37:41,601 again until I think that night. 935 00:37:41,702 --> 00:37:44,542 - When I saw Shawn, he was in the catering I believe. 936 00:37:47,608 --> 00:37:49,208 - I could tell it was real, 937 00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:51,180 is just started to pour out of us straightaway, 938 00:37:51,279 --> 00:37:52,479 like, you know, I’ve been wanting 939 00:37:52,580 --> 00:37:54,380 to talk to you for so long. 940 00:37:54,482 --> 00:37:56,852 And I remember I just said, "Just stop. 941 00:37:56,951 --> 00:37:58,621 Let’s do it in the ring." 942 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,519 ♪ ♪ 943 00:38:00,621 --> 00:38:06,191 - It’s been 12 long years since anyone’s seen Bret Hart. 944 00:38:06,294 --> 00:38:08,164 - I got 12 years of things that I’ve wanted 945 00:38:08,262 --> 00:38:09,792 to get off my chest, 946 00:38:09,897 --> 00:38:11,737 and the very first thing I wanna do 947 00:38:11,833 --> 00:38:14,373 is I wanna call back there and ask Shawn Michaels 948 00:38:14,468 --> 00:38:16,228 to come out here. [cheers and applause] 949 00:38:16,337 --> 00:38:20,347 - Whoa. Well, Hitman not wasting any time. 950 00:38:20,441 --> 00:38:22,111 - There’s something I’ve been waiting 951 00:38:22,210 --> 00:38:24,580 12 years to say to you. 952 00:38:24,679 --> 00:38:27,379 In the last 12 years, a lot of things 953 00:38:27,481 --> 00:38:29,151 in my life have changed. 954 00:38:30,484 --> 00:38:32,524 You’re not the only one that’s been 955 00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:35,990 carrying this around for 12 years. 956 00:38:36,090 --> 00:38:39,560 You’re not the only one that wants to bury the hatchet. 957 00:38:41,662 --> 00:38:44,062 - I was happy to see Shawn and Bret come back together 958 00:38:44,165 --> 00:38:46,735 and just share a ring again. 959 00:38:46,834 --> 00:38:49,134 - So I offer my hand to you in friendship. 960 00:38:49,237 --> 00:38:50,747 If you wanna bury the hatchet, 961 00:38:50,838 --> 00:38:52,768 let’s bury it right now. 962 00:38:52,874 --> 00:38:55,914 [audience shouting] 963 00:38:58,379 --> 00:39:02,349 [cheers and applause] 964 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:04,420 - That was so surreal. 965 00:39:04,518 --> 00:39:06,518 I really couldn’t believe what I was watching. 966 00:39:06,621 --> 00:39:08,751 That’s, like, the one thing you didn’t think could happen 967 00:39:12,627 --> 00:39:16,167 [cheers and applause] 968 00:39:16,264 --> 00:39:18,464 - When Shawn hugged me, he told me-- 969 00:39:18,566 --> 00:39:20,536 he goes, "I’m so sorry, 970 00:39:20,635 --> 00:39:22,735 so sorry for everything that happened." 971 00:39:24,238 --> 00:39:27,708 - What we carried, you know, as a result of everything, 972 00:39:27,808 --> 00:39:32,038 to have that lifted off was honestly the best thing. 973 00:39:32,146 --> 00:39:34,986 - It just shows the growth of both of ’em as men 974 00:39:35,082 --> 00:39:36,612 and human beings. 975 00:39:36,717 --> 00:39:39,687 To be able to witness that, that was really cool. 976 00:39:41,355 --> 00:39:44,195 - When two egos hit and they don’t mix well, 977 00:39:44,292 --> 00:39:46,092 a lot of crazy stuff can happen. 978 00:39:46,193 --> 00:39:48,933 - Bret Hart is going at it with Shawn Michaels! 979 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:50,330 - You know, you don’t have to be 980 00:39:50,431 --> 00:39:52,761 best friends to put on these matches, 981 00:39:52,867 --> 00:39:56,437 to make big money, to put butts in seats. 982 00:39:56,537 --> 00:39:58,747 - It drew me in so much, you know? 983 00:39:58,839 --> 00:40:02,439 And all the while, like, I really didn’t have an idea 984 00:40:02,543 --> 00:40:04,843 like, the gravity of this situation 985 00:40:04,946 --> 00:40:06,786 and even, like, how it built. 986 00:40:06,881 --> 00:40:10,481 When those heads butt it sucks for the people involved, 987 00:40:10,584 --> 00:40:14,194 but for everybody watching, like, we get the best 988 00:40:14,288 --> 00:40:16,088 possible product ’cause everyone is bringing 989 00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:17,560 their best to the table. 990 00:40:17,658 --> 00:40:19,518 - Both are incredible. 991 00:40:19,627 --> 00:40:21,037 Two of the greatest performers of all time. 992 00:40:21,128 --> 00:40:24,028 This was absolutely magic when these guys got together. 993 00:40:24,932 --> 00:40:27,132 [sentimental music] 994 00:40:27,234 --> 00:40:30,004 - [laughs] Hello, there. 995 00:40:30,104 --> 00:40:31,974 - No, I knew you’d come around there looking to tie up the-- 996 00:40:32,073 --> 00:40:34,273 - [laughs] No, heavens, no. How are you doing? 997 00:40:34,375 --> 00:40:35,475 - Good. How are you? - Oh, my goodness 998 00:40:35,576 --> 00:40:37,146 I’m doing pretty good. - Good to see you. 999 00:40:37,244 --> 00:40:38,344 - Busy. - Busy? 1000 00:40:38,446 --> 00:40:39,516 - The rivalry stood the test of time 1001 00:40:39,613 --> 00:40:41,113 because it was real. 1002 00:40:41,215 --> 00:40:43,285 It was real, and it was with two guys 1003 00:40:43,384 --> 00:40:46,884 that were so different in a lot of ways 1004 00:40:46,988 --> 00:40:49,228 but so alike competitor-wise. 1005 00:40:49,323 --> 00:40:51,123 I don’t have anything to say. 1006 00:40:52,093 --> 00:40:53,563 I didn’t have the-- again, the ability 1007 00:40:53,661 --> 00:40:57,331 or the maturity to see that and understand that. 1008 00:40:57,431 --> 00:41:00,401 - I think that when you look at long-term rivalry, 1009 00:41:00,501 --> 00:41:02,131 Shawn Michaels versus Bret Hart 1010 00:41:02,236 --> 00:41:03,976 will forever live in infamy. 1011 00:41:04,071 --> 00:41:07,101 - These two men truly believe in their hearts 1012 00:41:07,208 --> 00:41:09,448 that they are the better man. 1013 00:41:09,543 --> 00:41:11,343 - That’s the greatest thing that you can get 1014 00:41:11,445 --> 00:41:14,655 from a rivalry, is that people remember it 1015 00:41:14,749 --> 00:41:17,619 ten, 20, 30 years down the road. 1016 00:41:17,718 --> 00:41:20,018 - I think about, you know, the WrestleMania match. 1017 00:41:20,121 --> 00:41:23,451 To me, it is, you know, what a huge risk that was 1018 00:41:23,557 --> 00:41:25,797 to, you know, have the balls to try to do an hour. 1019 00:41:25,893 --> 00:41:27,263 - Oh, yeah. You know, one fall. 1020 00:41:27,361 --> 00:41:29,661 - Yeah, you know what I mean? And I’m more proud of that 1021 00:41:29,764 --> 00:41:31,804 than anything else. - Really a masterpiece. 1022 00:41:31,899 --> 00:41:33,159 - Yeah. - One of my favorite. 1023 00:41:33,267 --> 00:41:34,637 One of my best memories. 1024 00:41:34,735 --> 00:41:37,475 - The chemistry between Bret and Shawn 1025 00:41:37,571 --> 00:41:39,441 was undeniable, and it created 1026 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,310 an unbelievably great rivalry. 1027 00:41:42,410 --> 00:41:44,610 [cheering] - And here we go! 1028 00:41:44,712 --> 00:41:47,082 He got-- [audience cheering] 1029 00:41:47,181 --> 00:41:49,511 - It’s a shame that things got off track with Shawn 1030 00:41:49,617 --> 00:41:52,387 and we never got to really finish telling the stories 1031 00:41:52,486 --> 00:41:54,296 that we could have told. 1032 00:41:54,388 --> 00:41:56,418 Me and Shawn could have wrestled one time every year 1033 00:41:56,524 --> 00:41:57,864 for the next ten years, 1034 00:41:57,958 --> 00:42:00,588 and it’s been the biggest matches in history. 1035 00:42:00,694 --> 00:42:02,864 It’s a shame that that opportunity 1036 00:42:02,963 --> 00:42:05,433 was squandered and lost probably by both of us. 1037 00:42:05,533 --> 00:42:07,133 ♪ ♪ 1038 00:42:07,234 --> 00:42:08,704 - Absolutely, of course. 1039 00:42:08,803 --> 00:42:09,973 I would love to go back 1040 00:42:10,071 --> 00:42:12,701 and not make any of the mistakes that I made. 1041 00:42:12,807 --> 00:42:15,077 But then I have to see where I’m at now 1042 00:42:15,176 --> 00:42:19,646 and I’m overjoyed with having come out on the other side. 1043 00:42:19,747 --> 00:42:21,757 - And it’s good to be in a place today 1044 00:42:21,849 --> 00:42:23,249 where you can talk about your kids 1045 00:42:23,350 --> 00:42:26,750 and, you know, pretty soon it’ll be grandkids, and-- 1046 00:42:26,854 --> 00:42:28,394 - We’re not best friends, really, but you know, 1047 00:42:28,489 --> 00:42:31,459 he’s always nice to--about reaching out on a birthday 1048 00:42:31,559 --> 00:42:33,389 or a wedding anniversary. 1049 00:42:33,494 --> 00:42:36,694 - The stuff that you worried about 20 years ago is-- 1050 00:42:36,797 --> 00:42:37,867 sort of pales-- - Looks small now. 1051 00:42:37,965 --> 00:42:39,905 [laughs] Yeah, exactly, yeah. 1052 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:41,330 - You know-- - Especially when you say 1053 00:42:41,435 --> 00:42:42,875 something like grandkids. 1054 00:42:42,970 --> 00:42:44,200 It’ like, "Oh, my goodness." 1055 00:42:44,305 --> 00:42:45,845 [laughs] - Yeah, well it’s coming. 1056 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:47,040 Brace yourself. - Yeah. [laughs] 1057 00:42:47,141 --> 00:42:48,571 - I know, I know, I know. 1058 00:42:48,676 --> 00:42:51,346 - We just had a great conversation about being dads 1059 00:42:51,445 --> 00:42:54,315 and he was really a joy to be around. 1060 00:42:54,415 --> 00:42:55,585 - Well, it was wonderful to see you, man. 1061 00:42:55,683 --> 00:42:56,753 - Good seeing you. - Thank you so much. 1062 00:42:56,851 --> 00:42:57,781 I appreciate you. - Take care of yourself 1063 00:42:57,885 --> 00:42:59,585 and stay in touch. - I will. 1064 00:42:59,687 --> 00:43:01,297 - I wish sometimes that we could just go back 1065 00:43:01,388 --> 00:43:04,018 and redo all that ’cause it was-- 1066 00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:06,265 it was nothing but magic left to do. 1067 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,830 ♪ ♪ 81023

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