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We're here to look at two
of the deadliest dictators
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To ever walk
the face of the planet--
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Saddam hussein
and his republican guard...
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[shouts in native language]
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Versus pol pot
and the khmer rouge.
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[electricity buzzing]
[grunting]
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Let's just start off
with saddam.
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He was known
as the butcher of baghdad.
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This guy--he tortured.
He maimed.
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He used chemical weapons.
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Whatever it took
to quell rebellions,
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That's what saddam hussein
would do.
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When you look at pol pot,
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This guy used a small
communist guerrilla force
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Called the khmer rouge.
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And they go on and take out
the government in cambodia,
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Killing millions of people.
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You've got an established army
versus a guerrilla group.
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But very similar payloads,
as far as weapons are concerned.
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I think it's gonna be
a close fight.
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With regards to the diagnostic
and statistical manual
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Of mental disorders,
these guys are psychopaths,
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Which means
there is no remorse.
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That's pretty explosive.
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These are sadistic bastards.
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This kind of brutality--
off the scale.
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Saddam hussein,
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Iraqi tyrant
whose republican guard
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Slaughtered not only
his enemies, but his own people,
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Versus pol pot,
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The cambodian dictator
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Whose khmer rouge guerrillas
committed genocide
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On a quarter
of the country's population.
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It's dictator versus dictator,
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As the late 20th century's
most genocidal madmen
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Turn their tools of oppression
on each other.
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To find out,
the history of war
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And modern science collide,
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As former navy seal
richard "mack" machowicz
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Dives deep into the tactics
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Of the warriors
behind the weapons.
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To unlock new data
on arsenals of the past.
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And e.R. Physician armand dorian
dissects the trauma...
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And reveals the physical
and psychological traits
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That shaped
these legends of war.
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This groundbreaking data
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Will be paired
with historical research
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And entered into an all-new
digital combat engine.
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Two legendary combatants
will be resurrected.
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History will be rewritten.
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But only one
will be crowned...
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Welcome to the fight club,
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Where our experts will uncover
new historical insights
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To determine
who is deadliest--
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Saddam hussein
and his iraqi republican guard,
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Who crushed any political
opposition from 1979 to 2003,
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Or p pot and his
khmer rouge guerrillas,
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Who toppled the cambodian
government in 1975.
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I want to set the tone
right off the bat.
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We are not celebrating
these guys.
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No.
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But by actually seeing
what these guys have done
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And recognizing the way
they did it,
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It may prevent future massacres,
future genocides.
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To me, it's the science
of violence.
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You have to understand
the chaos of violence
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In order to fight back
against these guys.
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You're talking about evil.
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If we don't see it
and call it for what it is,
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Then we'll never get
off our butts
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And do anything about evil
when we do see it.
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Completely agreed, mack.
We have to investigate this.
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Let me give you the tale
of the tape, okay,
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About these two warriors
and their military.
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Saddam hussein, 6'2",
215 pounds--big guy.
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Pol pot, 5'9",
194 pounds.
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The khmer rouge
average age--16.
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Republican guard
average age--25.
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That age difference
is very, very important.
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A 16-year-old with this type
of invincibility--
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It's unfathomable.
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When you're talking
about motivation, doc,
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Saddam hussein
had this vision in his head.
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He was going to re-create
the babylonian empire
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With him at the head.
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Versus pol pot--
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And he has a beautiful vision
once he gets in power.
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"I want to eradicate
the past
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And create a past
of my own liking."
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This is his plan--
"I'm gonna kill off anyone
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"who knows anything
about the past.
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"hey, you've read a book?
You're dead.
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"you're an intellectual?
You're dead.
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You wear glasses?
You're dead."
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That's this guy
in a nutshell.
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Okay, so let's move on
to the weapons now.
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And for the first time
on deadliest warrior,
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We're gonna use multiple weapons
on a single test
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To see how it plays out
in an urban-combat environment.
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We're gonna initiate
this assault with grenades,
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Move on
to light machine guns,
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And then take control
of a building with handguns.
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I think what we have here
is an opportunity
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To truly confront evil
by exploring--
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What did they do?
What kind of tools did they use?
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And how did they convince
other human beings
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To behave this way?
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This dictator death match
will be determined
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By the all-new
digital combat engine
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Created by robert daly--
a former green beret
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And designer of more than
30 military-based video games,
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Including
the deadliest warrior game.
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The engine will process
more than 100 "x" factors--
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Critical intangibles
assigned values
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Based on extensive
historical research
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On each warrior's lives,
tactics,
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And psychological profiles.
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The most important
"x" factor for me
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Is the psyological health
of these two leaders.
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No, absolutely. You have
to evaluate these troops,
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Because they are all
antisocial
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Because they're being
driven so hard.
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And how they're going
to be affected long term
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Is something that I think
we also need to take
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Into consideration.
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Providing
firsthand knowledge
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Of the butcher of baghdad's
weapons and tactics
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Is sabah khodada, a former
general in the iraqi army.
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After refusing an order
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To shell an innocent
iraqi village in 1996,
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Sabah came under investigation
by saddam's ba'ath party,
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Who had him arrested
for insubordination.
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[speaking native language]
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Sabah eventually escaped
all the way to the u.S.,
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Where he helped
american authorities
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Discover saddam in 2003.
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Wielding the weapons
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That saddam hussein
and his republican guard
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Took into battle
is calvin bondley.
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Having faced combat
with insurgents in iraq,
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He brings
firsthand experience
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Into what makes
these warriors so lethal.
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The republican guard
is the military
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Who took over kuwait
in five hours.
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They believe
in what ey're doing.
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Revealing exclusive historical
insight into saddam's regime
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Is rick francona,
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Former air force officer
and cia agent
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Who served
as general norman schwarzkopf's
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Advisory expert
in the first gulf war.
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At age 20, saddam hussein
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Tries to assassinate
the then-president of iraq
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By machine-gunning a car
as the motorcade goes by.
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It fails.
He's wounded in the leg.
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And he seeks refuge in egypt.
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The assassination attempt
made saddam a legend
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In the ranks
of the ba'ath party.
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Taking over the country
in 1979,
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He launched
an eight-year war
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Against neighboring iran.
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During the conflict,
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He ordered a chemical-weapons
attack on his own people--
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Ethnic kurds he considered
rebels for aligning with iran.
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It had never been used
on a battlefield before,
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Making the iraqis
the only people in the world
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To have ever used nerve gas
on a battlefield.
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The perfect match for
saddam hussein's extreme tactics
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In putting down rebellions
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Is pol pot,
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Whose khmer rouge guerillas
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Were notorious for overthrowing
the cambodian military.
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Handling the weapons
for the khmer rouge
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Is jonathan khan.
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As a former
u.S. Army marksman,
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His in-depth weapons expertise
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Is coupled with a deep knowledge
of the guerilla regime
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That killed his grandparents.
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The khmer rouge is a band
of guerilla fighters.
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Guerilla tactics will always
beat a traditional army.
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Sharing
his personal experiences
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At the hands of pol pot and
the khmer rouge is kilong ung,
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A cambodian genocide survivor
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Who watched the khmer rouge
kill or starve
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50 members
of his extended family.
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Khmer rouge began
with a handful of students--
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Got together, conspired
against the government.
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And then eventually
they form a formidable force.
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This formidable force
of guerilla fighters,
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Led by pol pot,
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Defeated cambodian
government troops
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And took over
the country in 1975
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And then tried to bring
their vision
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Of the perfect society
into reality.
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Pol pot was trying
to create a utopia
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Where everybody was equal.
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To do that,
he has to bring people
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Back to the peasants' level
of the guerilla fighters
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That started the revolution
with them.
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They would get rid of
the upper class, the educated.
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There were mass graves
all over the country.
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It was enough to call them
the killing fields.
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We got a guerilla group
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Going up against
an established military, okay?
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So to make
your data set complete,
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We've got to run
some weapons tests.
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From saddam hussein's
invasions of iran and kuwait
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To pol pot's siege
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On the cambodian capital
of phnom penh,
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Both warriors seized cities
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With urban-warfare tactics
that combined grenades,
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Light machine guns,
and side arms.
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The first test
will determine
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How this entire arsenal
of weapons performs
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In a three-phase attack
on an enemy-occupied building.
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The republican guard
will initiate their assault
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With the iraqi military's
rgd-5 grenade.
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It explodes
with four ounces of tnt
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And 350 pieces of shrapnel.
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It's soviet-designed,
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Anti-personnel
fragmentation grenade.
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Once you pull the pin out,
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It takes about three
to four seconds to explode.
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The republican guard
will then move in with the rpk--
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A light machine gun
with a 40-round magazine.
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This is a primary weapon
for their infantry units.
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It can be fired standing,
moving, crouched,
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Or--or even
in the prone position.
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The republican guard
will finish
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With the browning
hi-power pistol--
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The premier iraqi army sidearm.
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[speaking native language]
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He actually carried
a browning hi-power
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With an inscription stamped
into the slide.
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It said, "a gift from
the president, saddam hussein."
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Wow. Okay, well,
let's grab these weapons
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And head out to the range.
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The first of three phases
will assess the damage potential
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Of the grenades
against four targets.
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We've got one guard
on the inside of the guard post,
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Three on the outside.
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So I'll be able to measure
the fragmentation
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On those foam targets,
plus the percussion effects,
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With a 38-g shock patch
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And a 100-g shock patch
on the chest.
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If the blast trips
the 38-g patch,
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The target is disoriented.
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If it triggers the 100-g patch,
it's dead.
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The second phase will measure
the damage and accuracy
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Of the light machine guns,
250
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As the experts advance
to take out five targets
251
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In the front of the building.
252
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For the final phase,
253
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The experts will move
inside the building
254
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To shoot the last two targets
with their pistols.
255
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On 3, 2, 1!
256
00:11:17,937 --> 00:11:19,204
Throw the grenade!
257
00:11:23,309 --> 00:11:24,676
Ooh-hoo!
258
00:11:24,743 --> 00:11:27,478
[gunfire]
259
00:11:27,546 --> 00:11:28,980
First fire--
don't blow all your rounds.
260
00:11:35,754 --> 00:11:38,022
Okay, he's in position.
261
00:11:38,090 --> 00:11:40,858
Oh, that was a good hit.
262
00:11:45,764 --> 00:11:48,633
That's dead-center--
chest.
263
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[gunfire]
264
00:11:57,276 --> 00:12:01,012
Nice.
Good job. Good job.
265
00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,681
He's making good time.
There you go.
266
00:12:07,453 --> 00:12:08,686
Sounds like a double tap.
267
00:12:12,992 --> 00:12:14,259
Done!
268
00:12:14,326 --> 00:12:16,294
Okay, that's two minutes
and five seconds.
269
00:12:16,362 --> 00:12:17,895
Let's go check out the damage.
270
00:12:17,963 --> 00:12:20,832
The two targets within five
feet of the detonation point
271
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Were killed instantly.
272
00:12:22,434 --> 00:12:25,436
The team reviews
the target ten feet away.
273
00:12:25,504 --> 00:12:29,741
From primary blast injury,
this 100-g, that's lethal.
274
00:12:29,808 --> 00:12:30,975
This guy's dead.
275
00:12:31,043 --> 00:12:33,444
The grenade damage
is far less severe
276
00:12:33,512 --> 00:12:35,446
On the other side
of the guard shack.
277
00:12:35,514 --> 00:12:37,515
This is the target
that was at 15 feet.
278
00:12:37,583 --> 00:12:39,684
Neither of these shock patches
are tripped,
279
00:12:39,752 --> 00:12:41,786
And we're now starting to get
outside the range
280
00:12:41,854 --> 00:12:44,188
For primary blast injury
of that weapon.
281
00:12:44,256 --> 00:12:46,190
But look where
he delivered the round.
282
00:12:46,258 --> 00:12:47,392
[laughs]
283
00:12:47,459 --> 00:12:49,560
Dead mid-face--
this guy is dead.
284
00:12:49,628 --> 00:12:52,697
Guys, for me, this is all
about the initiative "x" factor.
285
00:12:52,765 --> 00:12:54,432
When you're able to take
the initiative,
286
00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:57,201
That's a big advantage--if you
can catch guys by surprise.
287
00:12:57,269 --> 00:13:00,438
What was it like
throwing the rgd-5?
288
00:13:00,506 --> 00:13:03,141
Man, I'm telling you,
four ounce of tnt--
289
00:13:03,208 --> 00:13:04,876
You just feel the power of it.
290
00:13:04,943 --> 00:13:06,678
I mean, look at him.
He's still in shock.
291
00:13:06,745 --> 00:13:08,313
Not anymore.
You shot him in the face.
292
00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:10,782
Okay, this is why
we throw flash bangs in a room
293
00:13:10,849 --> 00:13:11,783
Before we go in.
294
00:13:11,850 --> 00:13:13,117
You catch people by surprise.
295
00:13:13,185 --> 00:13:14,786
You get their heads down.
You get them panicked.
296
00:13:14,853 --> 00:13:17,655
Okay, so let's check out
phase two of this assault--
297
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More of the rpk damage.
298
00:13:19,825 --> 00:13:21,192
[bees buzzing]
299
00:13:21,260 --> 00:13:23,961
Unfortunately,
our decomposing bodies here
300
00:13:24,029 --> 00:13:25,596
Have been taken over
with bees.
301
00:13:25,664 --> 00:13:27,899
But what can we see
from here?
302
00:13:27,966 --> 00:13:31,002
They all have more than
one round up front.
303
00:13:31,070 --> 00:13:33,304
This guy's got riddled through
his neck, through his chest.
304
00:13:33,372 --> 00:13:35,640
The one behind him--I see
at least three through his chest
305
00:13:35,708 --> 00:13:36,974
And two through his neck.
306
00:13:37,042 --> 00:13:39,310
So all of these
are instant kills.
307
00:13:39,378 --> 00:13:40,945
What was it like
firing the rpk, calvin?
308
00:13:41,013 --> 00:13:43,748
It's lighter,
so I could run with it fast.
309
00:13:43,816 --> 00:13:46,918
And it took me actually
four to five seconds to reload.
310
00:13:46,985 --> 00:13:48,653
It's pretty fast.
311
00:13:48,721 --> 00:13:50,555
[speaking native language]
312
00:13:53,258 --> 00:13:54,959
He said there
is nothing like the rpk
313
00:13:55,027 --> 00:13:56,361
To lay down the fire
314
00:13:56,428 --> 00:13:58,796
And then finish off
who you didn't with the pistol.
315
00:13:58,864 --> 00:14:00,498
Now, when you're talking
about the pistol,
316
00:14:00,566 --> 00:14:01,866
You're talking
about phase three.
317
00:14:01,934 --> 00:14:03,935
You have to muster
a certain level of intensity
318
00:14:04,002 --> 00:14:05,636
When going up
and taking a pistol
319
00:14:05,704 --> 00:14:07,605
And bringing it
into a guy's face.
320
00:14:07,673 --> 00:14:09,340
That's up close and personal.
321
00:14:09,408 --> 00:14:11,242
That's what we call
killer instinct,
322
00:14:11,310 --> 00:14:12,677
And that
is one of the factors
323
00:14:12,745 --> 00:14:14,379
That we'll plug
into the sim as well.
324
00:14:14,446 --> 00:14:15,880
Exactly.
I think that really speaks
325
00:14:15,948 --> 00:14:17,582
To the "x" factor
of training,
326
00:14:17,649 --> 00:14:19,851
And that's a factor
that we're gonna have to look at
327
00:14:19,918 --> 00:14:21,319
In this particular matchup.
328
00:14:21,387 --> 00:14:22,754
Well, you know,
saddam was the president
329
00:14:22,821 --> 00:14:24,088
Of an oil-rich country.
330
00:14:24,156 --> 00:14:25,289
This was a real army.
331
00:14:25,357 --> 00:14:26,791
This wasn't
a guerrilla movement.
332
00:14:26,859 --> 00:14:28,493
So he had training areas,
333
00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,728
And he was able to import
quality weapons.
334
00:14:30,796 --> 00:14:32,597
Obviously,
it's very impressive.
335
00:14:32,664 --> 00:14:34,866
However, hold your judgment,
336
00:14:34,933 --> 00:14:37,502
Because the version
that jonathan's using--
337
00:14:37,569 --> 00:14:39,203
It will be impressive, too.
338
00:14:39,271 --> 00:14:41,539
The light machine gun
by the khmer rouge
339
00:14:41,607 --> 00:14:44,175
Is the weapon of choice,
and I'll show you.
340
00:14:44,243 --> 00:14:47,178
Coming up,
pol pot and the khmer rouge
341
00:14:47,246 --> 00:14:49,313
Launch their counterattack.
342
00:14:49,381 --> 00:14:52,083
And later, the experts
unleash their machine guns
343
00:14:52,151 --> 00:14:53,818
In a motorcade ambush.
344
00:14:53,886 --> 00:14:54,986
Saddam hussein...
345
00:14:55,053 --> 00:14:56,354
Pol pot...
346
00:14:56,422 --> 00:14:58,289
In a battle
of the 20th century's
347
00:14:58,357 --> 00:14:59,757
Most brutal dictators.
348
00:14:59,825 --> 00:15:01,025
Who is deadliest?
349
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350
00:15:05,456 --> 00:15:08,092
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351
00:15:08,093 --> 00:15:11,291
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352
00:15:11,292 --> 00:15:14,117
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353
00:15:14,118 --> 00:15:15,682
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354
00:15:20,027 --> 00:15:23,096
Saddam hussein,
the butcher of baghdad
355
00:15:23,164 --> 00:15:26,933
Who killed nearly two million
people during his 24-year rule,
356
00:15:27,001 --> 00:15:28,568
Is battling pol pot,
357
00:15:28,636 --> 00:15:30,971
Whose widespread
political executions
358
00:15:31,038 --> 00:15:32,339
And policies of starvation
359
00:15:32,406 --> 00:15:35,508
Filled more
than 20,000 mass graves.
360
00:15:35,576 --> 00:15:37,744
Under the leadership
of pol pot,
361
00:15:37,812 --> 00:15:41,348
The khmer rouge
created 150 prisons
362
00:15:41,415 --> 00:15:44,184
To torture and execute people.
363
00:15:44,251 --> 00:15:46,453
They would bury people alive.
364
00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,389
They would put plastic bag
over a person's head
365
00:15:49,457 --> 00:15:51,624
And let the person die.
366
00:15:51,692 --> 00:15:55,061
They killed two million people
at the end.
367
00:15:55,129 --> 00:15:59,332
That is over a quarter
of the population.
368
00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,701
Saddam hussein's arsenal
of a grenade,
369
00:16:01,769 --> 00:16:04,204
Light machine gun,
and pistol
370
00:16:04,271 --> 00:16:06,873
Has been tested
in a three-phase assault,
371
00:16:06,941 --> 00:16:09,042
Simulating
the urban-warfare tactics
372
00:16:09,110 --> 00:16:10,610
Used by the two warriors.
373
00:16:10,678 --> 00:16:14,014
Now pol pot's khmer rouge
will launch its attack
374
00:16:14,081 --> 00:16:17,617
With weapons primarily supplied
by communist china,
375
00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:20,653
Starting with
the chinese stick grenade--
376
00:16:20,721 --> 00:16:22,422
A descendant of a grenade
377
00:16:22,490 --> 00:16:24,424
The germans used
in world war ii.
378
00:16:24,492 --> 00:16:26,126
This grenade, gentlemen,
379
00:16:26,193 --> 00:16:28,695
Has six ounces
of explosive filler.
380
00:16:28,763 --> 00:16:31,364
That's 50% more
than a saddam grenade.
381
00:16:31,432 --> 00:16:33,066
And it has a sleeve
on the end.
382
00:16:33,134 --> 00:16:36,469
Pol pot would actually
put knives, nails,
383
00:16:36,537 --> 00:16:39,272
Barbed wire into this sleeve,
384
00:16:39,340 --> 00:16:41,174
Giving it more
of a killing effect.
385
00:16:41,242 --> 00:16:43,276
The khmer rouge
will continue the assault
386
00:16:43,344 --> 00:16:46,546
With their standard issue rpd
light machine gun--
387
00:16:46,614 --> 00:16:48,381
A soviet-built weapon
388
00:16:48,449 --> 00:16:51,217
That delivers death
in 100-round bursts.
389
00:16:51,285 --> 00:16:54,521
You can fire 650 rounds
per minute
390
00:16:54,588 --> 00:16:56,556
From a drum that contains
100 rounds.
391
00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:59,826
It's slightly heavier
than saddam's machine gun,
392
00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:02,062
But you will have
heavier casualties.
393
00:17:02,129 --> 00:17:03,830
The khmer rouge
will conclude the attack,
394
00:17:03,898 --> 00:17:05,098
Clearing the building
395
00:17:05,166 --> 00:17:09,269
With its 9-millimeter tokarev
tt-33 pistol--
396
00:17:09,336 --> 00:17:11,438
An eight-round
semiautomatic weapon
397
00:17:11,505 --> 00:17:14,240
That executed cambodians
by the thousands.
398
00:17:14,308 --> 00:17:17,710
To test the accuracy and damage
potential of pol pot's arsenal
399
00:17:17,778 --> 00:17:19,446
In a three-phase assault,
400
00:17:19,513 --> 00:17:22,549
Jonathan will try to take out
all 11 targets
401
00:17:22,616 --> 00:17:25,452
Under calvin's time
of two minutes, five seconds.
402
00:17:25,519 --> 00:17:29,222
On 3, 2, 1!
403
00:17:29,290 --> 00:17:31,925
Throw the grenade!
404
00:17:34,662 --> 00:17:37,297
All: Whoa!
405
00:17:37,364 --> 00:17:38,598
That was a larger explosion.
406
00:17:38,666 --> 00:17:39,966
Now, that's a sound
I remember.
407
00:17:40,034 --> 00:17:41,668
[gunfire]
408
00:17:41,735 --> 00:17:43,837
There we go.
409
00:17:47,241 --> 00:17:48,475
[laughs]
410
00:17:48,542 --> 00:17:51,511
Love it, love it, love it.
411
00:17:51,579 --> 00:17:53,546
Nice transition.
412
00:17:57,451 --> 00:17:59,252
[laughing]
I love it.
413
00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:01,888
That's good.
There's a hit.
414
00:18:01,956 --> 00:18:03,289
All: Whoa.
You see that?
415
00:18:04,725 --> 00:18:06,626
There you go.
Oh, oh, oh.
416
00:18:10,898 --> 00:18:13,133
Look at him.
He's just booking it, man.
417
00:18:23,210 --> 00:18:25,612
Nice!
Two minutes, two seconds!
418
00:18:25,679 --> 00:18:29,115
That's three seconds
separating these guys.
419
00:18:29,183 --> 00:18:31,017
The 100-g shock patch
is tripped.
420
00:18:31,085 --> 00:18:32,051
That's lethal.
421
00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:33,887
It's getting inside that hut,
422
00:18:33,954 --> 00:18:36,956
Amplifying the pressure wave
and increasing its duration.
423
00:18:37,024 --> 00:18:39,159
The shrapnel here
is really significant.
424
00:18:39,226 --> 00:18:40,894
Every area
you see a frayed piece,
425
00:18:40,961 --> 00:18:42,595
That's something
going into the hut.
426
00:18:42,663 --> 00:18:45,131
The target five feet
from the detonation point
427
00:18:45,199 --> 00:18:47,300
Is also an instant kill.
428
00:18:47,368 --> 00:18:50,103
The team examines the target
ten feet out.
429
00:18:50,171 --> 00:18:52,639
As far as primary blast injury
is concerned,
430
00:18:52,706 --> 00:18:55,708
100-g shock patch is tripped.
431
00:18:55,776 --> 00:18:57,877
So, from ten feet out,
it's lethal.
432
00:18:57,945 --> 00:19:01,281
This is the target that's
15 feet away from the explosion.
433
00:19:01,348 --> 00:19:02,882
No trip on
the 100-g shock patch.
434
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:05,385
So, as far as primary blast
injury's concerned,
435
00:19:05,452 --> 00:19:06,586
Nothing here.
436
00:19:06,654 --> 00:19:08,688
But our 38-g shock patch
is tripped.
437
00:19:08,756 --> 00:19:11,724
So this guy did get shaken up,
but not lethal.
438
00:19:11,792 --> 00:19:13,259
It's not an instant kill,
439
00:19:13,327 --> 00:19:15,328
But you can get
pulmonary contusion--
440
00:19:15,396 --> 00:19:18,064
Blood filling into your lungs
just from the bruise
441
00:19:18,132 --> 00:19:22,435
And obviouslsly ruptured eardru,
whirling sensation, vertigo.
442
00:19:22,503 --> 00:19:24,137
As soon as his head
is rocked,
443
00:19:24,205 --> 00:19:25,638
He is a sitting duck, doc,
444
00:19:25,706 --> 00:19:28,841
And what's important
is a seizing that initiative,
445
00:19:28,909 --> 00:19:30,410
And that's the "x" factor
we're looking at.
446
00:19:30,477 --> 00:19:32,579
And if you're looking
at just the tiniest bit more
447
00:19:32,646 --> 00:19:34,747
Of that disorientation
in this moment,
448
00:19:34,815 --> 00:19:36,115
That's a bigger advantage.
449
00:19:36,183 --> 00:19:38,351
That's gonna have to figure
into the sim.
450
00:19:38,419 --> 00:19:41,054
The saddam hussein grenade
rolls like a baseball.
451
00:19:41,121 --> 00:19:42,689
You don't know where
it's going to end up,
452
00:19:42,756 --> 00:19:43,823
Whereas
with the stick grenade,
453
00:19:43,891 --> 00:19:45,325
Aim it, throw it,
it stays there.
454
00:19:45,392 --> 00:19:47,260
Look at the results.
455
00:19:47,328 --> 00:19:50,363
But how did the rpd perform
in the second phase?
456
00:19:50,431 --> 00:19:51,564
Jonathan, great work--
457
00:19:51,632 --> 00:19:53,800
Multiple rounds
in every, single target.
458
00:19:53,867 --> 00:19:56,269
Some of these targets
have a huge cavity.
459
00:19:56,337 --> 00:19:59,505
You basically carved out
an entire section of the body.
460
00:19:59,573 --> 00:20:01,374
That means
your accuracy's on target,
461
00:20:01,442 --> 00:20:04,244
And you're able to keep chunking
away at the same tissue.
462
00:20:04,311 --> 00:20:05,445
Instant kill all around.
463
00:20:05,512 --> 00:20:06,746
And you know what?
464
00:20:06,814 --> 00:20:08,381
These foam targets
aren't biofidelic, okay?
465
00:20:08,449 --> 00:20:11,818
But we've never seen
a machine gun cut them in half.
466
00:20:11,885 --> 00:20:14,420
And the fact that you ran it
three seconds faster--
467
00:20:14,488 --> 00:20:15,521
Nice job.
468
00:20:15,589 --> 00:20:17,724
This weapon is superior
469
00:20:17,791 --> 00:20:19,492
Compared to
the saddam hussein weapon--
470
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,561
100 rounds compared to 40.
471
00:20:21,629 --> 00:20:23,329
While he's reloading,
I'm killing.
472
00:20:23,397 --> 00:20:24,597
What about the tokarev?
473
00:20:24,665 --> 00:20:27,900
Accurate, eight rounds,
474
00:20:27,968 --> 00:20:29,902
Very simple weapon to use,
very powerful.
475
00:20:29,970 --> 00:20:32,405
[speaking native language]
476
00:20:39,747 --> 00:20:41,614
They fought a war
with the iranians.
477
00:20:41,682 --> 00:20:43,149
The iranians
had better weapons.
478
00:20:43,217 --> 00:20:45,485
The iraqis
had better training.
479
00:20:45,552 --> 00:20:48,254
That's what he believes
was their edge.
480
00:20:48,322 --> 00:20:51,157
The team has more tests
for the light machine guns,
481
00:20:51,225 --> 00:20:55,061
But the grenades and sidearms
are ready for judgment.
482
00:20:55,129 --> 00:20:56,629
First up--the grenades.
483
00:20:56,697 --> 00:21:01,467
Saddam's rgd-5 or pol pot's
chinese stick grenade--
484
00:21:01,535 --> 00:21:04,971
Which packs enough punch
to give its warrior the edge?
485
00:21:05,039 --> 00:21:06,873
I'm gonna go
with the chinese stick grenade.
486
00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:08,308
I just think there's
a little bit more blast,
487
00:21:08,375 --> 00:21:10,343
A little more
concussive force.
488
00:21:10,411 --> 00:21:12,578
So that if I do open up
after that attack,
489
00:21:12,646 --> 00:21:14,914
I have a guy
who's a little disoriented,
490
00:21:14,982 --> 00:21:16,082
Put in a bad position.
491
00:21:16,150 --> 00:21:17,817
I agree with you, mack.
492
00:21:17,885 --> 00:21:19,485
The only thing I don't like
about the chinese stick grenade
493
00:21:19,553 --> 00:21:21,087
Is that it has that handle.
494
00:21:21,155 --> 00:21:22,655
Despite the fact
that it's got two more ounces
495
00:21:22,723 --> 00:21:24,123
Of high explosive in it,
496
00:21:24,191 --> 00:21:25,992
I think you'd be able
to carry less of them.
497
00:21:26,060 --> 00:21:28,428
And so for that,
I like the rgd-5.
498
00:21:28,495 --> 00:21:30,330
The one thing that I realize
the stick provides
499
00:21:30,397 --> 00:21:31,831
Is lack of roll.
500
00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:33,433
When that thing falls,
501
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:35,501
There's going to be
a minimal amount of bounce,
502
00:21:35,569 --> 00:21:37,203
Which we do see
with the round ball.
503
00:21:37,271 --> 00:21:39,272
I agree with doc,
just for the functionality--
504
00:21:39,340 --> 00:21:40,673
It's not going to be rolling
all over the place--
505
00:21:40,741 --> 00:21:42,041
And the explosive power.
506
00:21:42,109 --> 00:21:44,677
Hey, you can even add a sleeve
with nasty nails,
507
00:21:44,745 --> 00:21:46,079
And I've seen
that type of trauma.
508
00:21:46,146 --> 00:21:47,280
It's horrendous.
509
00:21:47,348 --> 00:21:48,848
So if I got to compare
the two,
510
00:21:48,916 --> 00:21:50,583
My edge would go
to the stick grenade.
511
00:21:50,651 --> 00:21:54,387
Edge--pol pot
and the khmer ro+e.
512
00:21:54,455 --> 00:21:58,191
Saddam's browning hi-power
or pol pot's tokarev--
513
00:21:58,258 --> 00:22:00,526
Whose pistol
outgunned the other?
514
00:22:00,594 --> 00:22:02,862
For me, this is
all about magazine capacity.
515
00:22:02,930 --> 00:22:04,464
If I have more rounds
with the browning hi-power
516
00:22:04,531 --> 00:22:05,865
Than I do with the tokarev,
517
00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:07,166
I'm gonna go with
the browning hi-power, period.
518
00:22:07,234 --> 00:22:09,235
If I had to give one advantage
to the tokarev
519
00:22:09,303 --> 00:22:10,336
Is I like its low profile.
520
00:22:10,404 --> 00:22:11,804
I think that
would be something
521
00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,339
You could easily slip
in your belt.
522
00:22:13,407 --> 00:22:15,074
The reason it's low profile
is it carries less rounds.
523
00:22:15,142 --> 00:22:16,275
Fair enough.
524
00:22:16,343 --> 00:22:17,844
You know,
when in doubt, overload.
525
00:22:17,911 --> 00:22:22,048
Edge--saddam hussein
and the republican guard.
526
00:22:22,116 --> 00:22:23,916
Coming up,
527
00:22:23,984 --> 00:22:26,386
The light machine gun duel
continues its carnage.
528
00:22:26,453 --> 00:22:29,555
And later, saddam hussein's
republican guard
529
00:22:29,623 --> 00:22:30,957
And pol pot's khmer rouge
530
00:22:31,024 --> 00:22:32,725
Finally go head-to-head
531
00:22:32,793 --> 00:22:35,361
To find out which dictatorship
is deadliest.
532
00:22:38,667 --> 00:22:40,735
Two of history's
most brutal dictators
533
00:22:40,803 --> 00:22:44,038
Ruled at the end
of the 20th century,
534
00:22:44,106 --> 00:22:46,140
But over 4,000 miles apart.
535
00:22:46,208 --> 00:22:49,343
If they actually squared off
in battle, who would win--
536
00:22:49,411 --> 00:22:52,814
Pol pot, a former schoolteacher
turned cambodian rebel
537
00:22:52,881 --> 00:22:55,750
Who led the deadliest revolution
in asian history,
538
00:22:55,818 --> 00:22:57,218
Or saddam hussein,
539
00:22:57,286 --> 00:22:59,253
Who struck terror
in the iraqi people
540
00:22:59,321 --> 00:23:02,423
By brutally killing
an average of 200 every day
541
00:23:02,491 --> 00:23:04,659
During
his quarter-century rule?
542
00:23:04,726 --> 00:23:07,762
Saddam used torture
against his own people.
543
00:23:07,830 --> 00:23:11,065
Think of the most brutal
torture methods there are.
544
00:23:11,133 --> 00:23:12,834
Saddam hussein employed
all of them.
545
00:23:12,901 --> 00:23:14,402
Initially,
they used electricity.
546
00:23:14,470 --> 00:23:16,704
They also would pull out
the fingernails--
547
00:23:16,772 --> 00:23:18,773
The chemical bath.
548
00:23:18,841 --> 00:23:21,008
That's how it started out,
and it got worse and worse.
549
00:23:21,076 --> 00:23:24,445
Our first test examined both
warriors' light machine guns,
550
00:23:24,513 --> 00:23:26,681
Attacking
an enemy-occupied building.
551
00:23:26,748 --> 00:23:28,816
But the republican guard
and khmer rouge
552
00:23:28,884 --> 00:23:30,218
Also used these weapons
553
00:23:30,285 --> 00:23:33,721
To exterminate
political opponents.
554
00:23:33,789 --> 00:23:36,190
Okay, guys, we know
that pol pot and saddam
555
00:23:36,258 --> 00:23:37,959
Used these light machine guns
556
00:23:38,026 --> 00:23:41,762
To coordinate ambushes
on threats to their regime.
557
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:45,967
The scenario--a moving car
is stopped by an obstacle.
558
00:23:46,034 --> 00:23:47,535
Each expert
will fire 80 rounds
559
00:23:47,603 --> 00:23:49,270
To see how quickly
and accurately
560
00:23:49,338 --> 00:23:51,072
They can first take out
the driver
561
00:23:51,139 --> 00:23:54,242
And then advance to exterminate
the target in the backseat.
562
00:23:54,309 --> 00:23:57,345
Jonathan, you'll be up first,
with pol pot's rpd.
563
00:23:57,412 --> 00:23:58,980
Let's get the car moving!
564
00:23:59,047 --> 00:24:01,582
3, 2, 1!
565
00:24:01,650 --> 00:24:03,784
Ambush!
566
00:24:07,823 --> 00:24:10,291
Nice.
567
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,327
Make sure he's down.
568
00:24:13,395 --> 00:24:16,297
That's effective fire
right there.
569
00:24:16,365 --> 00:24:17,565
There you go.
570
00:24:17,633 --> 00:24:19,333
Nice, nice.
Now it's time to move.
571
00:24:19,401 --> 00:24:21,636
Okay, he's moving.
Keep moving.
572
00:24:23,672 --> 00:24:25,273
Smooth bursts,
smooth bursts.
573
00:24:27,409 --> 00:24:29,777
There you go. Smooth is fast.
There you go.
574
00:24:29,845 --> 00:24:31,345
Smooth is fast.
575
00:24:31,413 --> 00:24:34,415
Oh-ho-ho!
That's a hit.
576
00:24:34,483 --> 00:24:35,583
That's a hit.
577
00:24:38,820 --> 00:24:40,755
There you go.
578
00:24:40,822 --> 00:24:42,223
Nice.
579
00:24:45,527 --> 00:24:47,461
Oh-ho-ho, yeah!
580
00:24:47,529 --> 00:24:50,665
Time!
46 seconds, jonathan.
581
00:24:50,732 --> 00:24:55,236
It took that long?
[chuckles]
582
00:24:55,304 --> 00:24:57,838
I mean, you've completely
riddled the body.
583
00:24:57,906 --> 00:25:00,007
It's the classic,
best way to kill somebody
584
00:25:00,075 --> 00:25:02,009
Is shooting them
from the side.
585
00:25:02,077 --> 00:25:04,145
And with just
one of these rounds,
586
00:25:04,212 --> 00:25:06,113
You would be able to do that.
587
00:25:06,181 --> 00:25:07,915
All right,
what we're seeing here--
588
00:25:07,983 --> 00:25:09,850
I mean, this body
looks like it's ice cream,
589
00:25:09,918 --> 00:25:11,252
And the bullets
were the scooper,
590
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,120
And it just scooped out
his chest and his belly
591
00:25:13,188 --> 00:25:14,555
And has thrown it all around.
592
00:25:14,623 --> 00:25:17,191
It just explodes.
This is intimidating.
593
00:25:17,259 --> 00:25:19,727
If you walk alongside this
and see your leader
594
00:25:19,795 --> 00:25:22,430
Has his chest on the floor,
caved out,
595
00:25:22,497 --> 00:25:23,764
That's an intimidation factor
596
00:25:23,832 --> 00:25:26,100
That we got to factor
into the sim.
597
00:25:26,168 --> 00:25:28,002
Even though
the khmer rouge's machine gun
598
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:29,637
Is heavier than saddam's,
599
00:25:29,705 --> 00:25:32,239
When you're firing bursts,
you don't feel the weight.
600
00:25:32,307 --> 00:25:34,976
This is definitely a weapon
you don't want to mess with.
601
00:25:35,043 --> 00:25:40,548
When the war in cambodia
happened, I was just a boy.
602
00:25:40,616 --> 00:25:44,318
There was a time I heard
the exact same sound.
603
00:25:44,386 --> 00:25:45,720
And when I got there,
604
00:25:45,787 --> 00:25:48,322
I saw bloods and guts
just like this.
605
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:52,293
I had a couple
of khmer rouge soldiers
606
00:25:52,361 --> 00:25:55,229
That put similar guns
to my head.
607
00:25:55,297 --> 00:25:59,266
They were about
12 or 13 years old.
608
00:25:59,334 --> 00:26:01,469
When you have somebody
who's just hitting puberty
609
00:26:01,536 --> 00:26:03,137
And then you give 'em
a weapon like this,
610
00:26:03,205 --> 00:26:05,539
They're gonna feel invincible.
611
00:26:05,607 --> 00:26:07,742
And then you add
the post-traumatic stress
612
00:26:07,809 --> 00:26:09,810
Of doing what they did
at that age.
613
00:26:09,878 --> 00:26:12,079
All of these things
have to factor in
614
00:26:12,147 --> 00:26:14,482
For psychological health
in the sim.
615
00:26:14,549 --> 00:26:18,085
Can calvin match the accuracy
of pol pot's rpd
616
00:26:18,153 --> 00:26:22,256
With saddam's rpk
in less than 46 seconds?
617
00:26:22,324 --> 00:26:24,792
Let's get the car moving.
618
00:26:24,860 --> 00:26:28,095
On 3, 2, 1!
619
00:26:28,163 --> 00:26:29,363
Take 'em out!
620
00:26:34,136 --> 00:26:35,936
There you go.
Nice.
621
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,943
Oh, chewing that car up.
622
00:26:43,011 --> 00:26:44,311
[laughs]
623
00:26:44,379 --> 00:26:46,881
Wow.
624
00:26:46,948 --> 00:26:48,215
Moving in now.
625
00:26:48,283 --> 00:26:49,917
Change of magazine?
I didn't see it.
626
00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:54,155
Yeah, that was silly.
627
00:26:59,061 --> 00:27:01,896
[shouting in native language]
628
00:27:01,963 --> 00:27:04,665
[laughing]
yeah!
629
00:27:06,435 --> 00:27:07,468
Time!
630
00:27:07,536 --> 00:27:09,970
59 seconds!
631
00:27:10,038 --> 00:27:11,405
Nice work.
632
00:27:11,473 --> 00:27:13,407
I think that magazine change
cost you a little bit.
633
00:27:19,948 --> 00:27:22,717
Wow, tore the head off.
634
00:27:22,784 --> 00:27:24,418
We know that this
is not human tissue,
635
00:27:24,486 --> 00:27:26,454
But if you get that many rounds
right into the neck,
636
00:27:26,521 --> 00:27:28,522
That is gonna decapitate
somebody.
637
00:27:28,590 --> 00:27:30,524
Okay, guys, let's take a look
at the primary target.
638
00:27:30,592 --> 00:27:32,426
Ay-yi-yi.
639
00:27:32,494 --> 00:27:36,797
Okay, first and foremost,
there's a monstrous entry wound.
640
00:27:36,865 --> 00:27:39,366
This thing is just tearing
its way through the body.
641
00:27:39,434 --> 00:27:41,969
To be able to actually see
this type of carnage
642
00:27:42,037 --> 00:27:43,904
That both
of these weapons caused
643
00:27:43,972 --> 00:27:45,906
Have to be factored in
as "x" factors
644
00:27:45,974 --> 00:27:47,875
With regards to intimidation.
645
00:27:47,943 --> 00:27:50,911
Calvin, I saw you do
a magazine change on the go.
646
00:27:50,979 --> 00:27:52,480
What was going on there?
647
00:27:52,547 --> 00:27:54,315
I already know I--
I damage them,
648
00:27:54,382 --> 00:27:57,451
And I'm just on my way
to make it finish.
649
00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:59,253
I mean, I've carried
this weapon.
650
00:27:59,321 --> 00:28:00,755
I've used this weapon.
651
00:28:00,822 --> 00:28:02,590
It is a little bit heavy
compared to an assault rifle,
652
00:28:02,657 --> 00:28:04,558
But this is laying down
a tremendous volume of fire.
653
00:28:04,626 --> 00:28:06,627
[speaking native language]
654
00:28:12,467 --> 00:28:15,402
So they--they train
on these kinds of operations,
655
00:28:15,470 --> 00:28:17,371
And a lot of the cars
that they would be going against
656
00:28:17,439 --> 00:28:18,973
Are armored.
657
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,775
So they would be trying to go
for what they believe to be
658
00:28:20,842 --> 00:28:22,743
The weakest part,
and that would be the window.
659
00:28:22,811 --> 00:28:24,545
So again, training.
660
00:28:24,613 --> 00:28:27,348
The rpk and rpd
661
00:28:27,415 --> 00:28:29,950
Both proved their accuracy
and devastating damage.
662
00:28:30,018 --> 00:28:33,354
So which finer details of
each machine gun's functionality
663
00:28:33,421 --> 00:28:35,289
Will give its warrior
the edge?
664
00:28:35,357 --> 00:28:38,859
Listen, if you don't get this
rpk magazine in perfectly,
665
00:28:38,927 --> 00:28:41,061
You're gonna be dancing around
a little bit.
666
00:28:41,129 --> 00:28:42,563
So if you come off
a little bit of an angle,
667
00:28:42,631 --> 00:28:44,799
You come in a little bit here,
you're gonna have some issues.
668
00:28:44,866 --> 00:28:46,667
When you're talking
about a five-man unit
669
00:28:46,735 --> 00:28:47,902
Against a five-man unit,
670
00:28:47,969 --> 00:28:49,537
Where any little advantage
671
00:28:49,604 --> 00:28:51,605
Is going to make a gigantic
difference on the battlefield,
672
00:28:51,673 --> 00:28:55,309
Me not having to change
my magazine in that moment,
673
00:28:55,377 --> 00:28:57,311
That's where pol pot
and the khmer rouge
674
00:28:57,379 --> 00:28:58,846
Are going to get
a significant advantage.
675
00:28:58,914 --> 00:29:02,049
You know, the rpk is lighter,
and it may decrease fatigue.
676
00:29:02,117 --> 00:29:05,186
So from a doctor's standpoint,
I like the rpk.
677
00:29:05,253 --> 00:29:06,654
I like the fact
that it's lighter.
678
00:29:06,721 --> 00:29:08,722
I don't like the fact
that you've got to reload it.
679
00:29:08,790 --> 00:29:10,858
My edge--
pol pot's rpd.
680
00:29:10,926 --> 00:29:13,527
For long-range weapons,
edge--pol pot
681
00:29:13,595 --> 00:29:15,362
And the khmer rouge.
682
00:29:15,430 --> 00:29:18,365
Coming up,
the combat goes hand-to-hand,
683
00:29:18,433 --> 00:29:21,802
As experts strike
with their close-quarter blades.
684
00:29:21,870 --> 00:29:25,139
Saddam hussein
and his republican guard
685
00:29:25,207 --> 00:29:27,641
Or pol pot
and his khmer rouge--
686
00:29:27,709 --> 00:29:29,610
Who will be crowned
the deadliest warrior?
687
00:29:33,115 --> 00:29:34,916
Saddam hussein...
688
00:29:34,984 --> 00:29:37,552
The iraqi dictator
whose republican guard
689
00:29:37,620 --> 00:29:41,189
Crushed kurdish and
shia rebellions in the 1990s,
690
00:29:41,256 --> 00:29:44,325
Versus pol pot,
the communist tyrant
691
00:29:44,393 --> 00:29:47,829
Whose khmer rouge guerillas
overran the cambodian military
692
00:29:47,896 --> 00:29:51,666
Before enslaving millions
in the 1970s.
693
00:29:51,734 --> 00:29:55,570
Two sadistic rulers known
for killing their own people
694
00:29:55,638 --> 00:29:57,839
Now face off
to kill each other.
695
00:29:57,906 --> 00:30:00,808
When the fighting got
up close and personal,
696
00:30:00,876 --> 00:30:04,112
Both sides often unsheathed
their bladed weapons.
697
00:30:04,179 --> 00:30:07,715
Saddam's republican guard
carried the combat knife--
698
00:30:07,783 --> 00:30:11,219
A powerful killing device
wielded by hand
699
00:30:11,286 --> 00:30:12,787
Or at the end of a gun.
700
00:30:33,075 --> 00:30:35,610
Pol pot slashes back
with a blade
701
00:30:35,678 --> 00:30:38,112
Modeled after the machete,
the cane knife--
702
00:30:38,180 --> 00:30:41,382
A farming tool
turned executioner's weapon.
703
00:30:41,450 --> 00:30:45,219
This cane knife has a blade
of 12 to 24 inches in length,
704
00:30:45,287 --> 00:30:47,155
And it's
three millimeters thick.
705
00:30:47,222 --> 00:30:49,657
You can use this blade
to cut the jungle undergrowth
706
00:30:49,725 --> 00:30:51,325
In one moment,
707
00:30:51,393 --> 00:30:53,127
And the next moment
behead a cambodian soldier.
708
00:30:53,195 --> 00:30:54,295
Let's test it out.
709
00:30:54,363 --> 00:30:56,130
Now, we've seen
how you've used
710
00:30:56,198 --> 00:30:59,267
Other weapons in your arsenal
to actually take a building.
711
00:30:59,334 --> 00:31:00,902
Now you're
inside that building
712
00:31:00,969 --> 00:31:02,770
Going after
your primary target.
713
00:31:02,838 --> 00:31:05,873
To assess these blades' speed
and penetration damage,
714
00:31:05,941 --> 00:31:07,975
Each expert
will kick open the door
715
00:31:08,043 --> 00:31:11,713
And attack a guard represented
by a section of bovine torso
716
00:31:11,780 --> 00:31:13,715
Mimicking human tissue
and bone.
717
00:31:13,782 --> 00:31:16,417
They then must react
to a second beef target
718
00:31:16,485 --> 00:31:18,119
Closing in on a zip line.
719
00:31:18,187 --> 00:31:20,788
To increase
the accuracy of our simulator,
720
00:31:20,856 --> 00:31:23,124
I'll be strapping this
three-dimensional accelerometer
721
00:31:23,192 --> 00:31:24,792
To the blade
to get impact speed,
722
00:31:24,860 --> 00:31:27,195
And the doc
will be assessing the damage.
723
00:31:27,262 --> 00:31:30,064
On 3, 2, 1!
724
00:31:30,132 --> 00:31:31,365
Boot the door!
725
00:31:32,501 --> 00:31:33,768
Rah!
726
00:31:33,836 --> 00:31:35,870
[grunting]
727
00:31:35,938 --> 00:31:37,105
Come on!
728
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:42,243
That'll work.
[chuckles]
729
00:31:42,311 --> 00:31:45,747
Two targets,
two instant kills.
730
00:31:45,814 --> 00:31:49,317
We've got one, two, three,
four clean strikes.
731
00:31:49,384 --> 00:31:51,385
All those strikes,
without even me looking
732
00:31:51,453 --> 00:31:53,321
At each strike individually,
is a kill.
733
00:31:53,388 --> 00:31:56,257
You got a speed of about 40
miles per hour at impact, okay?
734
00:31:56,325 --> 00:31:58,259
And that's actually quite fast
735
00:31:58,327 --> 00:32:00,394
For the other weapons
that we've seen on this show.
736
00:32:00,462 --> 00:32:03,664
If you can accurately deliver
that blade into a human body,
737
00:32:03,732 --> 00:32:05,233
Which is not nearly as thick,
738
00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,368
I'm telling you, you're gonna
drop that guy quickly,
739
00:32:07,436 --> 00:32:10,938
Which allows you to move on
and take on that second target.
740
00:32:11,006 --> 00:32:12,273
Jonathan is up next
741
00:32:12,341 --> 00:32:14,809
With the khmer rouge's
cane knife.
742
00:32:14,877 --> 00:32:18,079
On 3, 2, 1!
743
00:32:18,147 --> 00:32:19,747
Boot it!
744
00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:22,517
Oh!
745
00:32:25,721 --> 00:32:28,289
Argh!
746
00:32:28,357 --> 00:32:30,458
Oh, let's check
this out, guys.
747
00:32:30,526 --> 00:32:34,595
I got 45 miles per hour off
the speed of this weapon, okay?
748
00:32:34,663 --> 00:32:36,464
This was your second strike.
749
00:32:36,532 --> 00:32:39,567
You get past soft tissue,
muscle here,
750
00:32:39,635 --> 00:32:44,906
And then right here you get
stuck at the fascia and bone.
751
00:32:44,973 --> 00:32:46,240
Jonathan,
I think what happened
752
00:32:46,308 --> 00:32:48,876
Was you got caught
between two different targets,
753
00:32:48,944 --> 00:32:50,978
And then you decided
to come back to this.
754
00:32:51,046 --> 00:32:52,547
And if you don't have
a big commitment
755
00:32:52,614 --> 00:32:54,015
And a great load behind it,
756
00:32:54,082 --> 00:32:56,918
You get that draw cut,
and it's not nearly as clean.
757
00:32:56,985 --> 00:32:58,719
That's exactly
what we're seeing, mack.
758
00:32:58,787 --> 00:33:00,254
Let's go look
at the second target.
759
00:33:00,322 --> 00:33:03,691
You're going through
soft tissue, muscle,
760
00:33:03,759 --> 00:33:04,926
Belly of the muscle,
761
00:33:04,993 --> 00:33:08,029
But it does not penetrate
past that.
762
00:33:08,096 --> 00:33:09,363
This is a classic difference
763
00:33:09,431 --> 00:33:11,632
Between a thrusting
and a slashing weapon.
764
00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:14,001
You can kill with a slash,
but you've got to be committed
765
00:33:14,069 --> 00:33:16,504
In order to get into that chest
cavity, and if you don't,
766
00:33:16,572 --> 00:33:19,607
A lot blood, a lot of pain,
but not an instant kill.
767
00:33:19,675 --> 00:33:21,275
When you're talking
about the person
768
00:33:21,343 --> 00:33:22,977
Who commits to the target,
769
00:33:23,045 --> 00:33:25,079
You're talking
about the khmer rouge here.
770
00:33:25,147 --> 00:33:26,814
There's no hesitation
for them.
771
00:33:26,882 --> 00:33:29,150
You know, you talk
about young soldiers.
772
00:33:29,218 --> 00:33:30,751
They grew up with this stuff.
773
00:33:30,819 --> 00:33:33,187
This is the extended arm
for them,
774
00:33:33,255 --> 00:33:36,290
So every time when they use it,
they committed.
775
00:33:36,358 --> 00:33:37,825
What I think, honestly,
776
00:33:37,893 --> 00:33:41,495
You have a longer blade than me,
but it's too slow.
777
00:33:41,563 --> 00:33:43,030
You got to swing
a lot with it.
778
00:33:43,098 --> 00:33:44,999
This is used in iraq
by the farmers.
779
00:33:45,067 --> 00:33:47,702
It's a farm tool.
It's not a weapon.
780
00:33:47,769 --> 00:33:49,403
This is a weapon.
781
00:33:49,471 --> 00:33:51,772
So which blade
gets the edge?
782
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,342
Listen, there's
a lot more flexibility
783
00:33:54,409 --> 00:33:57,445
With regards to the combat knife
as a battlefield tool.
784
00:33:57,512 --> 00:33:59,714
When you're talking
about the cane knife,
785
00:33:59,781 --> 00:34:02,416
You do need some room to operate
with that weapon.
786
00:34:02,484 --> 00:34:04,685
If you're in a tight,
closed, confined space,
787
00:34:04,753 --> 00:34:07,421
It's gonna be much harder
to load up that big swing
788
00:34:07,489 --> 00:34:08,656
And deliver that great result.
789
00:34:08,724 --> 00:34:10,057
The edge for me
790
00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:12,260
Goes to the republican guard's
combat knife.
791
00:34:12,327 --> 00:34:14,929
For close-range weapons,
792
00:34:14,997 --> 00:34:18,132
Edge--saddam hussein
and his republican guard.
793
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,334
The arsenals have been tested,
794
00:34:20,402 --> 00:34:23,070
And the results
are neck and neck.
795
00:34:23,138 --> 00:34:25,740
Up next,
the climactic final battle--
796
00:34:25,807 --> 00:34:28,676
Saddam hussein,
the butcher of baghdad,
797
00:34:28,744 --> 00:34:30,978
Whose atrocities
included chemical warfare,
798
00:34:31,046 --> 00:34:34,048
Versus pol pot,
the cambodian warlord
799
00:34:34,116 --> 00:34:36,150
Who starved and slaughtered
800
00:34:36,218 --> 00:34:38,052
A quarter
of his country's citizens.
801
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:39,587
Who is deadliest?
802
00:34:42,567 --> 00:34:45,452
♪
803
00:34:45,453 --> 00:34:47,214
♪
804
00:34:47,215 --> 00:34:49,489
♪
805
00:34:49,490 --> 00:34:51,972
♪
806
00:34:51,973 --> 00:34:53,610
♪
807
00:34:58,295 --> 00:35:02,731
Saddam hussein and his mighty
iraqi republican guard army,
808
00:35:02,799 --> 00:35:06,268
Cambodia's pol pot and his
ruthless khmer rouge rebels--
809
00:35:06,336 --> 00:35:10,005
Combined, their kurdish
and cambodian genocides
810
00:35:10,073 --> 00:35:12,241
Took an estimated
five million lives.
811
00:35:12,309 --> 00:35:15,444
But who would win
a head-to-head battle
812
00:35:15,512 --> 00:35:17,513
Between two of the most savage
mass murderers
813
00:35:17,580 --> 00:35:20,149
Of the 20th century?
814
00:35:20,216 --> 00:35:22,318
Our team has tested
and analyzed the weapons
815
00:35:22,385 --> 00:35:25,788
These two warriors will bring
to the final battle.
816
00:35:25,855 --> 00:35:29,558
In explosives, the republican
guard's rgd-5 grenade
817
00:35:29,626 --> 00:35:33,595
Was overpowered by
the khmer rouge's stick grenade.
818
00:35:33,663 --> 00:35:35,164
In close-range weapons,
819
00:35:35,231 --> 00:35:37,099
The khmer rouge's cane knife
was cut down
820
00:35:37,167 --> 00:35:39,435
By the republican guard's
combat knife.
821
00:35:39,502 --> 00:35:41,470
In medium-range weapons,
822
00:35:41,538 --> 00:35:44,006
The khmer rouge's
tokarev tt-33
823
00:35:44,074 --> 00:35:46,208
Was outdueled
by the republican guard's
824
00:35:46,276 --> 00:35:48,444
Browning hi-power pistol.
825
00:35:48,511 --> 00:35:49,812
In long-range weapons,
826
00:35:49,879 --> 00:35:52,848
The republican guard's rpk
was gunned down
827
00:35:52,916 --> 00:35:56,051
By the khmer rouge's
rpd light machine gun.
828
00:35:56,119 --> 00:35:59,154
All the weapons data has been
turned over to robert daly
829
00:35:59,222 --> 00:36:01,457
And plugged
into the digital combat engine.
830
00:36:01,524 --> 00:36:03,292
His team of enneers
831
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,561
Has completed
their historical research
832
00:36:05,628 --> 00:36:08,364
On more than 100 "x" factors.
833
00:36:08,431 --> 00:36:11,400
We evaluate these intangibles,
like audacity,
834
00:36:11,468 --> 00:36:14,169
Battlefield experience,
logistics.
835
00:36:14,237 --> 00:36:15,804
And our historians
quantify it
836
00:36:15,872 --> 00:36:18,374
Into a numeric value
of 1 to 100.
837
00:36:18,441 --> 00:36:21,343
For me, it's all about
the "x" factor of training
838
00:36:21,411 --> 00:36:22,845
In this particular matchup,
839
00:36:22,912 --> 00:36:25,180
Because saddam hussein
and the republican guard
840
00:36:25,248 --> 00:36:26,715
Had oil money.
841
00:36:26,783 --> 00:36:29,518
And if you got oil money,
you can have people,
842
00:36:29,586 --> 00:36:31,387
Buildings, and infrastructure
to train them.
843
00:36:31,454 --> 00:36:33,322
That makes all the difference
in the world.
844
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:34,423
Yeah, geoff, training--
845
00:36:34,491 --> 00:36:36,392
We ended up rating saddam
at a 70
846
00:36:36,459 --> 00:36:38,660
Versus pol pot at a 53.
847
00:36:38,728 --> 00:36:40,162
With regards
to psychological health,
848
00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:41,864
Both of these guys have
849
00:36:41,931 --> 00:36:45,334
Dsm-4 antisocial-behavior
classification,
850
00:36:45,402 --> 00:36:47,169
Added with paranoid traits.
851
00:36:47,237 --> 00:36:50,172
Both these guys
are completely insane.
852
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,074
Saddam hussein's
psychological health,
853
00:36:52,142 --> 00:36:56,011
We rated it as 46
versus pol pot's 27.
854
00:36:56,079 --> 00:36:58,247
This is really due to the fact
that pol pot--
855
00:36:58,314 --> 00:37:00,215
He's doing something
that I've never seen happen
856
00:37:00,283 --> 00:37:01,617
In human history before.
857
00:37:01,684 --> 00:37:04,453
He's trying to re-create history
in his own image,
858
00:37:04,521 --> 00:37:06,789
Killing millions of people
to do this.
859
00:37:06,856 --> 00:37:10,292
Robert, let's talk
about battlefield effectiveness.
860
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,028
You need to be able
to initiate your attack.
861
00:37:13,096 --> 00:37:15,063
And you have to have
killer instinct
862
00:37:15,131 --> 00:37:17,833
To see it all the way through
until you own that battle.
863
00:37:17,901 --> 00:37:19,435
On the initiative side,
864
00:37:19,502 --> 00:37:23,472
Pol pot had a slight advantage
at an 83 versus saddam's 74.
865
00:37:23,540 --> 00:37:26,308
On the last "x" factor, we're
talking about killer instinct.
866
00:37:26,376 --> 00:37:30,012
Now, this is a tough one,
but pol pot had the advantage,
867
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:32,781
'cause his troops would go in
and make that final kill,
868
00:37:32,849 --> 00:37:34,583
Because that's what
they were taught to do
869
00:37:34,651 --> 00:37:36,185
At such a young age.
870
00:37:36,252 --> 00:37:40,055
And we gave pol pot's troops
an 89 versus saddam's 86.
871
00:37:40,123 --> 00:37:42,925
Okay, rob, you've got
the weapons data.
872
00:37:42,992 --> 00:37:46,128
We've assigned values
to all the "x" factors.
873
00:37:46,196 --> 00:37:47,763
Let's run the sim.
874
00:37:47,831 --> 00:37:50,966
The digital combat engine
will run 5,000 battles
875
00:37:51,034 --> 00:37:52,468
Between saddam hussein
876
00:37:52,535 --> 00:37:55,204
And four republican guard
soldiers
877
00:37:55,271 --> 00:37:57,973
Versus pol pot
and four khmer rouge guerillas.
878
00:38:36,045 --> 00:38:37,913
Aah!
[machine gun fire]
879
00:38:43,753 --> 00:38:46,421
[machine gun fire]
880
00:38:46,489 --> 00:38:47,890
Aah!
881
00:38:54,063 --> 00:38:56,198
[machine gun fire]
882
00:38:58,368 --> 00:39:00,202
Aah!
883
00:39:05,375 --> 00:39:07,876
Aah!
884
00:39:19,188 --> 00:39:20,856
[tires squealing]
885
00:39:20,924 --> 00:39:22,524
[shouting in native language]
886
00:39:29,299 --> 00:39:30,899
Aah! Gah!
887
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:04,700
Uhh!
888
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:26,421
Gah!
Uhh!
889
00:40:34,197 --> 00:40:36,531
[speaking native language]
890
00:40:51,948 --> 00:40:53,649
[shouts in native language]
891
00:40:55,551 --> 00:40:57,986
[speaking native language]
892
00:41:02,859 --> 00:41:04,893
Saddam ended up
winning this matchup,
893
00:41:04,961 --> 00:41:07,529
With 2,828 victories,
894
00:41:07,597 --> 00:41:11,800
Versus pol pot,
with only 2,172 victories.
895
00:41:11,868 --> 00:41:13,935
In the head-to-head
weapons comparison,
896
00:41:14,003 --> 00:41:16,538
Saddam hussein's
rpk light machine gun,
897
00:41:16,606 --> 00:41:19,174
Browning hi-power pistol,
and combat knife
898
00:41:19,242 --> 00:41:20,909
Proved more effective.
899
00:41:20,977 --> 00:41:23,145
But it was his
overwhelming advantage
900
00:41:23,212 --> 00:41:26,014
In the "x" factor of training
that sealed the victory.
901
00:41:26,082 --> 00:41:27,983
Saddam hussein
and his republican guard
902
00:41:28,051 --> 00:41:32,320
Are really an organization that
is set up to put down rebels.
903
00:41:32,388 --> 00:41:35,424
When you look at pol pot
and the khmer rouge,
904
00:41:35,491 --> 00:41:37,659
They are rebels.
905
00:41:37,727 --> 00:41:40,362
So that's why saddam
ended up winning.
906
00:41:40,430 --> 00:41:41,797
They're crazy people,
907
00:41:41,864 --> 00:41:43,498
And I hate giving
crazy people attention.
908
00:41:43,566 --> 00:41:47,636
But sometimes you need to know
who the crazy people are
909
00:41:47,704 --> 00:41:50,605
So you can stop them
before they start causing
910
00:41:50,673 --> 00:41:51,873
This level of trouble.
911
00:41:51,941 --> 00:41:53,308
[shouts in native language]
912
00:41:53,813 --> 00:41:58,292
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