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In this episode of American Greed.
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Money, greed, lack of moral values.
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Maybe he's a sociopath, I don't know.
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Bill Mastro helps turn a niche hobby
into a multi -million dollar criminal
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enterprise.
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He's referred to by some as the
godfather of the industry.
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He really, on his back, brought this
industry into what it was and what it
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And it isn't about kids getting baseball
cards in packs of gum anymore.
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Any hobby, business, whatever, where
money can be made, the cockroaches
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fly in.
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And like baseball itself, this industry
has winners, losers,
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and cheaters.
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And you had 10 % of schmucks like me who
just was walking in and getting my head
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handed to me.
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But when the game is over, will Bill
Mastro end up triumphant?
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Sadly, the big lesson is that crime
absolutely pays.
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And it pays a lot.
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Jeff Evers has the collector's bug.
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He wants to turn pieces of Americana
into cash.
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In around 1998 or so, I started to watch
the Antiques Roadshow.
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And I thought, well, that seems like an
interesting hobby.
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So I basically collected collectibles.
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The idea was to treasure hunt,
basically.
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And one day in 2007, an elderly man
hands him a small box of gold
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at a simple garage sale.
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He marches me into his garage and he
points up at a box and on the side is
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handwritten baseball cards.
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So I open it up and on the top of the
box, there are four stacks of cards.
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Evers only sees the top four cards, but
he quickly realizes time is of the
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essence. Another gentleman started to
walk up the driveway.
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So I thought, well, I'm not going to
like open up this box and start going
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through all this because I want to buy
it.
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So I took a risk and I said, I'm going
to offer you $500 for the whole box.
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And he looked at me with a smile and
said, sold.
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And I had scored big. I mean, there were
amazing cards that were in that box.
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I had a Hank Aaron rookie card, an Ernie
Banks rookie card, two Al Kaline rookie
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cards, a 1958 Roberto Clemente card. I
had a Napoleon Lajoie 1933
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Gaudi card, which apparently is the
second rarest card in all of card
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collecting.
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Evers decides to make use of the gold
mine he's uncovered.
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My second oldest son had some health
issues, and I wanted
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to sell the cards and basically cash in,
so to speak.
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At the time, the place to cash in is
clear.
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Mastro Auctions.
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Over the past decade, Mastro Auctions
has sold over a quarter of a billion
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dollars of high -value collectibles,
establishing itself as the largest and
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respected sports and Americana
collectibles auction house in the world.
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Mastro Auctions, people can consign
memorabilia to have it auctioned to
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collectors across the country and around
the world.
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Bill Mastro was one of the early
pioneers of the sports memorabilia
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Bill Master was a collector growing up
as a kid who turned his hobby into a
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business. You have to remember that when
we grew up in the 60s and the 70s,
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everybody collected baseball cards.
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Jeffrey Lichtman starts collecting
baseball cards as a kid.
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But as he grows up, so does the
memorabilia industry.
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You've got some money in your pocket and
you want to relive your youth.
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And instead of being able to spend a
nickel on a pack of cards, now you're
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spending perhaps thousands and thousands
and tens of thousands of dollars on a
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single baseball card, all to recapture
joy, that innocent joy of your youth.
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And Bill Mastro finds a way to exploit
that innocent joy.
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He loved the wheeling and dealing. He
loved the trading and sort of that, you
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know, that horse trading. He got a taste
of the business.
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pretty early in his life.
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By the 70s and 80s, the entire hobby
gets a taste of the business, and the
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innocence begins to fade as it is
replaced by dollar signs.
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There's a greed factor here, too, where
all of a sudden, the cards that my mom
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put in the basement 35 years ago were
suddenly going to allow me to retire and
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buy an island in the Caribbean.
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And it just doesn't make sense, right?
Because at the end of the day, these
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cards are just, they're pieces of
cardboard.
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But to Bill Mastro, these pieces of
cardboard are gold.
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And one piece of cardboard in
particular.
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I was in our newsroom one day, and I'd
just gotten to work, and the sports
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editor at the Daily News said, they're
auctioning off some baseball card, and
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they say it might go for a million
dollars.
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The card is a Honus Wagner, made between
1909 and 1911.
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And as reporter Michael O 'Keefe arrives
at the auction, he sees what will soon
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become the most famous and infamous card
in sports collection history.
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It was a funny -looking card. It was
narrow. It was much smaller than the
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baseball cards that I had collected as a
kid. But what really impressed me was
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just how beautiful it was, how clean it
was.
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It's referred to as the Holy Grail of
baseball cards. It's the card that every
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little kid who collects baseball cards
knows this card.
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But it's not just the beauty of the card
that makes it valuable.
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It's also because of Honus Wagner
himself, a beloved hero who played from
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to 1917.
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That locker belonged to Honus Wagner,
one of the great hitters in the game's
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history, and a fellow most people
consider the greatest shortstop who ever
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lived.
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When Wagner played, baseball cards were
a new phenomenon, inserted into packages
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of cigarettes and candy.
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But despite the mass production of
cards, very few Honus Wagner cards were
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Precisely why it's so rare is a mystery,
but there are some intriguing theories.
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There's a version where Honus Wagner did
not want children to...
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desire his card because it came in a
package of tobacco.
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There's another version of the story
that goes that Hannes Wagner wanted more
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money than other players were receiving.
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Whatever story you go with, the truth is
that there are very few Hannes Wagner
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cards in existence today.
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But Bill Mastro finds one.
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In 1985, he pays $25 ,000 for a stack of
cards.
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that includes the Honus Wagner.
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A few years later, he sells it for $100
,000.
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It's an outstanding profit.
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But the real benefit comes a few years
later, in 1991, when the buyer comes to
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Bill Mastro to auction the card once
again.
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Mastro arranges to sell the card through
the high -end auction house Sotheby's
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in New York City.
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an auction house renowned for selling
fine art worth millions of dollars.
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It's an auction unlike anything baseball
cards have ever seen.
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The atmosphere was electric. It felt
like a World Series game. People
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that to me. One guy described it was
like being at the Ollie Frazier fight at
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Madison Square Garden where you just had
this anticipation something was going
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to happen.
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And the bidding kept going up and going
up. And, you know, it passed $300 ,000,
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$350 ,000, $375 ,000. And then
ultimately it sells for $451 ,000. And
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anonymous buyer turns out to be Wayne
Gretzky and Bruce McNall.
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Wayne Gretzky, a .k .a. The Great One,
the most famous hockey player in the
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world, and the owner of the Los Angeles
Kings, Bruce McNall.
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So the fact that Bretzky buys this card
and it goes for a whopping $450 ,000,
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unheard of amount of money, and other
auction houses are suddenly interested
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this market, the media is interested in
this market, that really was a turning
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point.
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It's also a turning point for Bill
Mastro.
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He becomes known as the man who
facilitated the sale of the most
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in the world.
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It was the house. It was the auction
shop that sold the card.
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And through that is where he's really
gained his notoriety.
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For nearly two decades, Bill Mastro is
an industry leader in sports memorabilia
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trading.
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Mastro and his chief operating officer,
Doug Allen, hold multiple auctions a
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year, featuring thousands of items up
for bid.
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They advertise with high -quality
catalogs.
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and later take advantage of everything
the Internet has to offer.
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By the early 2000s, hundreds of millions
of dollars passed through the seemingly
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innocuous walls of Mastro Auctions
headquarters.
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But in a highly competitive industry,
it's hard to stay on top.
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In order to continue getting the great
product for your auctions, you've got to
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have the best.
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And how do you get the best prices?
Well, you either can advertise well, you
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have a great pitchman, or you can commit
a massive fraud on a large scale.
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Bill Mastro does all three.
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Like many avid collectors, Ryan Kristof
starts collecting baseball cards at an
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early age.
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I think I have that collector's bug.
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I think it's a genetic thing. You either
have it or you don't.
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Kristoff's youthful passion for
collecting takes on a narrow focus when
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visits a card show in Southern
California as a teenager.
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He sees a man he doesn't know selling
autographs.
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I eventually got so curious, I went over
to him and I just asked, I'm sorry, I
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don't mean to bother you, but who are
you?
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He said, my name's Lou Diles. I play in
the Negro Leagues. He started to tell me
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all about the Negro Leagues. And that
changed my whole life and took it in a
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whole different direction because then I
just became like I wanted to gobble up
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any information I could.
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This is a 1923 -24 Beacon card of Hall
of Famer Oscar Charleston,
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who would be in the discussion for the
greatest all -around baseball player of
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all time.
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African Americans couldn't play in the
major leagues, but they could go to
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countries and make a living as
professional ballplayers, and they were
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They were celebrities, just like they
should have been here.
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And it turns out that some of those
countries even made baseball cards of
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Kristoff travels through Latin America,
searching for any cards he can find and
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trade. So I was just trying to keep my
stuff and then...
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Sell enough to make back what I spent.
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Wasn't really making money necessarily.
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I was just sort of breaking even, but my
collection was getting bigger and
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bigger.
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At one point in the late 90s, he sells
part of his collection to a trader in
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Miami. But when that trader decides to
auction off that collection, Christoph
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notices something suspicious.
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He consigned it to Mastro.
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I had sold it to him in a private sale,
so no one knew what the prices were.
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And I wound up winning one of the cards
back that I had sold. It wound up going
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for almost exactly what I sold it for.
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When Christoph looks at the sales of his
other old cards, he notices time and
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again, sale after sale, card after card,
they are sold for almost precisely what
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he sells them for originally.
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It would be too coincidental for all
these cards to be closing at the exact
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levels where the private sale was.
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I was the only one who knew that
information.
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The odds of all his cards selling again
for nearly the exact same price as
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Kristoff sells them for originally are
astronomical.
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Kristoff suspects that someone behind
the scenes is artificially inflating the
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bids to reach a minimum price so that
the seller is guaranteed not to lose
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money.
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And he's right.
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But this is just one case of rigging an
auction.
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And Mastro knows it.
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They're a number.
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of favored consignors, people with close
ties to Mastro and the auction house,
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who were complicit. And it was to their
benefit.
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They were able to increase the value of
the cards and the memorabilia that they
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sold so that they made more money. And
because the auction house took a cut of
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every sale, the auction house also
benefited.
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It's a win -win, except for the honest
bidder getting duped.
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When American greed returns No one who
trades with Bill Mastro is safe It
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was almost like there was some maniac
sitting behind a computer.
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I knew immediately that something was
off
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I
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felt it was very important to recognize
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that we're a service industry.
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No one really needs collectibles, but
they want them.
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By the early 2000s, baseball cards are a
$3 billion a year business.
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And Mastro Auctions is at the forefront,
selling thousands of items a year live
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and online.
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Mastro Auctions is the leading sports in
America auction house in the world.
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And we back that up with our numbers.
But Bill Mastro and his chief operating
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officer, Doug Allen, are playing with a
stat deck.
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He was a highly aggressive, I would call
him a bully, in our hobby where he had
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to get the best cards, best, the best,
the best. And the reason why people
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respected him is that he had the best
cards to sell. And that's really what
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matters in our hobby is who has the best
cards to sell.
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As a criminal defense attorney, Jeffrey
Lichtman deals with people charged with
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serious crimes on a daily basis.
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He once won an acquittal for alleged mob
boss John Gotti Jr.
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and has been retained by accused Mexican
drug lord Joaquin El Chapo Guzman.
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He's also an avid collector, and he bids
on dozens of items through Mastro
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Auctions.
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And his experience with con men tells
him something's not right with Bill
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Mastro. There would be a tie cobble, and
the card would be sitting at a $2 ,000
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value for two weeks.
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And I would then go on the computer. I
would see the card I wanted. So I'd put
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my bid in at, let's say, $2 ,100.
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I would turn around, and 15 seconds
later, I had been outbid. And it would
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happen time and time. It was almost like
there was some maniac sitting behind a
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computer inside the Maslow offices
waiting for people to bid so they could
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the bid.
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I knew immediately that something was
off.
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That's because Mastro is cheating.
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The mysterious bidder upping Lickman's
bid isn't trying to win the car.
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It's a conspirator trying to raise the
prices through a scheme called
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shill bidding.
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Shill bidding is fraud, basically.
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Let's say you've got the high bid. You
want to pay $100 for the item.
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But I know you'll pay up to $200.
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So I'll use either an employee account
or I'll make up an account name, and I
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will say that that person bid $150 on
it. And then you'll see that, so you'll
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bid $200.
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So I've effectively gotten you to pay
twice what you should have paid for
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But the scheme comes with some risk.
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A shill bidder might accidentally place
the winning bid if no one tops it.
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That's why it's imperative that they
have Mastro auctions on their team.
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Just in case they win an item, Mastro
can get them out of actually buying it,
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either by simply booking the sale or by
awarding the sale to the second highest
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bidder. Either way, Mastro and the
consigner can't lose.
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And so you'd have the benefit of
increase the price through this bill bid
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without the risk that you might actually
have to pay the price if someone else
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in the market doesn't bid higher than
you.
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But that is a worst -case scenario.
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What Mastro truly intends is for the
unwitting collector to buy the item for
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jacked -up price, one bid at a time, all
to Mastro's benefit.
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As an auction house, they take a
percentage of the seller's commission,
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get a commission from the seller that
comes out, and then they also are paid a
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premium by the buyer, so the buyer's
premium. So really, they're making money
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off both ends of the transaction.
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But it also worked in a less direct way
for them.
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They could go to collectors and say, you
want to sell your stuff through Mastro
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Auctions because we get top dollar.
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The only loser is the one actually
purchasing the item.
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But that isn't the last strike.
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First and foremost, chill bidding may
force an individual to pay more money
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an object than what they rightfully
should pay.
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Second layer to that is it actually
creates a false marketplace out there
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like objects.
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Like a house, you're going to look for
what did that house or comparable house
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sell for last time it was up for sale.
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Right? Baseball cards are the same
thing. The auction results were
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and people would look to those past
auction results to dictate how much they
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were going to pay in the future.
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But with prices constantly going up,
artificially or not, everyone's
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is getting more valuable.
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It may be in many collectors' best
interests to turn a blind eye to the
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but not everyone sees it that way.
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People you had paid apologists.
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People that needed Mastro's business.
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And you had 10 % of schmucks like me who
just was walking in and getting my head
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handed to me.
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When American Greed returns, Mastro
turns a profit -selling hair from the
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famous pompadour in history.
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But do these locks really belong to the
king?
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An individual.
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who purchased that hair, decided to get
that hair DNA tested.
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By the early 2000s, the pursuit of rare
baseball cards has become big business.
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But it's also succumbed to another
pursuit.
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Greed.
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And while some people long for the good
old days, not everyone on collectors'
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message boards is so eager to see the
light.
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I happened to make a comment saying, you
know, I don't know what's going on with
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Mastro, but something's not right.
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And what I expected is that people would
say, hey, you know, we've been in
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Mastro options. We really want to hear
your hypothesis.
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We know that you're a criminal lawyer
that deals with fraud all day.
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what you say may have some weight.
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Instead, I was an act in the board and I
was shocked, frankly, at the response
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because I thought I was helping people.
And instead, how dare you say that about
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Bill Mastro?
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The message board may have defenders,
but not everyone is on behind Bill
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In 2007, Ryan Kristof believes he's a
victim of shill bidding himself.
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and wants Mastro Auctions to stop fixing
the game.
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I spoke with Doug Allen. I told him what
I suspected.
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He said, nope, no way, no shield bidding
at all. Everything was totally legit.
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So, you know, I thought about it more,
and I just decided, no, I'm not paying.
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And after a while, I got an email
threatening to ban me, and I fired back
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a very unpleasant email just telling
him,
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I'll go to the FBI. I'll go to whoever I
have to.
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But according to former Assistant U .S.
Attorney Stephen Grimes, law enforcement
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is already hearing about the various
frauds arising from Mastro auctions.
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And it's not limited to shill bidding.
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I would say nothing was beyond possible
at the auction house.
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We heard everything across the gamut in
terms of accusations of what was done.
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In the early 2000s, Mastro Auctions sold
a baseball that is purportedly from the
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very first professional baseball team,
the 1869 Red Stockings baseball team.
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individual had the object in his
collection for a number of years and
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became uncomfortable with the object, so
sent it away for forensic testing,
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microscopic paint fleck analysis.
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The analysis revealed that the paint
used on that baseball was manufactured
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-World War II.
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Post -World War II.
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That's the era of Joe DiMaggio and Ted
Williams.
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In 1869, they wouldn't even be born for
almost 50 years.
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The ball is a fraud.
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Instead of going to law enforcement, the
buyer returned it to Mastro for a full
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refund. But that's not the end of this
ball's history.
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Once Mastro Oxen...
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Had that ball back in their possession,
Bill Mastro reached out to an individual
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and asked that individual if he would be
interested in purchasing this ball for
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his collection.
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Mr. Mastro did not disclose the results
of the forensic testing that was done on
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that single ball.
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That individual paid approximately $61
,000 for that trophy ball.
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That's an extraordinary sum of money for
an ordinary baseball painted gold.
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But apparently, the lure of the national
pastime is too much to resist.
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And that's really what happened in this
field with Mastro and the other
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fraudsters, is that people, their brains
were simply falling out of their heads,
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and their competitiveness and their
desire, their zeal to relive the joy of
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their childhood when opening up that
pack of baseball cards, that took over.
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You know, one thing's always certain,
baseball's king.
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The highest.
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selling sports card is a baseball card.
The highest selling sports memorabilia
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jersey is a baseball jersey.
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The highest price paid for a sports
autograph is that of a baseball player.
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mean, baseball's always going to be
king.
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But Mastro doesn't limit himself to
baseball.
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Any collectible can pass through his
doors, including that of another king.
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avid Elvis Presley collectors out there
would be interested in owning a piece of
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the King's hair.
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Well, smash through auctions claimed to
have a jar full of Elvis Presley's hair.
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And ultimately that item was tested by
the person who purchased it.
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And the DNA results of that test showed
that not only was it not Elvis Presley's
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hair, but it was the hair of four random
people.
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The jar of hair was returned to Master
Auctions along with the DNA test showing
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that it wasn't what Master Auctions had
claimed it was.
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Mastro returns the buyer's money, but
only if the buyer agrees to keep quiet.
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They signed an NDA agreement in return
for the exchange of the money that they
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paid for it originally.
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What Master Auctions did with the hair
after that was they took the one jar of
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hair. put it into four smaller jars of
hair, and resold each jar subsequent
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draw auctions without disclosing the
fact of the DNA report seriously calling
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into question the authenticity of that
Elvis Presley hair.
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The jars of hair sell for a combined
price of nearly $40 ,000 to unwitting
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buyers.
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It's an egregious deceit.
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But deceit isn't the limit of what
Mastro Auctions is willing to do.
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If they can, they'll just outright
steal.
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When American Greed returned,
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an Illinois collector believes he struck
gold.
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But his treasure vanishes into thin air
the moment he walks into Mastro
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Auctions.
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What they're basically running is a jail
game.
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They get your cards, they're going to
pay you what they want to pay you.
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What are you going to do about it?
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In 2007, Jeff Evers walks into the
headquarters of Mastro Auctions just
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of Chicago to consign what he believes
is a gold mine of classic rare baseball
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cards.
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They had said that in April of 2007,
Mastro had sold a Henry Aaron rookie
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for over $16 ,000.
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And I had that card in pristine
condition.
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So I thought, that's the place to go to.
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As he sits in the lobby, he thinks all
his hopes are confirmed.
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And inside this place, they had all the
trappings of success.
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Fancy woodwork. It was a beautiful
facility.
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And next to me were some previous
auction books with Price is Realized
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And I saw that the prices that my cards
were going to go for were tremendous.
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Evers says that he is soon brought into
a conference room with a representative
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of Mastro Auctions.
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But soon after seeing the cards...
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the representative suddenly cuts the
meeting short.
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Like he's in a big hurry, and, oh, he's
got to meet this guy and blah, blah,
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blah. He finishes his inventory sheet
for me, and it was a skeletal inventory.
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He didn't detail the cards. He didn't
give me photographs of the cards. I
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expected that that would occur, but he
didn't do any of that.
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It's a lot of red flags.
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But Mastro Auctions has the reputation
for getting the best prices.
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Evers decides to hand over his cards.
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He just sold a Henry Aaron rookie card
for $16 ,000 plus five months ago, and I
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have one.
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It's got to be legit.
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It wouldn't rip me off.
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But after the auction is over, Evers has
serious concerns.
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They never even mentioned that the
Napoleon Lajoie card, the card number
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the second rarest card in all the
baseball card collection, was even in
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So that card outright disappeared.
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Not only does Evers believe that some of
his cards disappear, he believes that
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the ones that are sold are severely
misadvertised.
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They're given low ratings and treated as
second -class cards.
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The total gavel price on all 1 ,500 or
so cards was a little over $49 ,000.
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And they charged me the 15 % to defraud
me.
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I believe that I got taken for at least
another $300 ,000.
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And you know what? It could be a lot
more.
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Evers feels that Mastro Auctions
misrepresents the cards.
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so that they can buy them themselves on
the cheap, at which point they can later
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sell them off for much more money.
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Well, the catalog on the left is from
the December 2007 auction, as they
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advertised it for me.
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In here, you see the Babe Ruth card that
they have graded out with a lesser
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grade. And then later, after Mastro took
control of my cards, now that card...
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is being sold separately, advertised as
excellent cement condition, and the
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difference between those gratings is
exponential.
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If you superimpose this card onto that
card, that will prove that it is the
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same card.
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My belief is those cards never left
their facility at that point in time
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after that sale.
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They could be laughing.
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When they watch the show, yeah, we got
them for a lot more than that.
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But they won't be laughing for long.
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When American Greed returns, law
enforcement raises the stakes for Mastro
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Auctions.
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While the fraud was going on, while the
grand jury investigation was going on,
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while the FBI agent was...
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beating down doors to find witnesses for
Mastro's fraud, they were committing
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more fraud.
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Bill Mastro and Doug Allen are getting
top dollar for baseball cards and other
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collectibles. But their numbers are
juiced.
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And law enforcement wants to level the
playing field.
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The federal wire fraud statute makes it
a crime for somebody to use false
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statements for the purpose of gaining
money. That's really the main criteria.
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And when you boil it down to its
elements, it clearly is that.
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In every master auctions catalog, there
were six pages of rule.
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Rule number one, that items will be sold
to the highest bidder.
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That wasn't true.
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All items were not sold to the highest
bidder.
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Items were only sold to the highest
bidder if master auctions or one of
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favorite consignors agreed that the
highest bidder was paying an appropriate
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price. There's where the fraud is.
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They also don't tell customers that they
may be bidding against people who have
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no intention of buying the item in
question.
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Before long, law enforcement is ready to
end this game.
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And the entire sports collecting
industry knows that Mastro Auctions is
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its last strike.
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You would go to the card shows and you
would see the FBI agent and there'd be a
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guy from the IRS and federal agents
walking around and they're handing
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to people.
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And then we knew for certain that the
FBI was really interested in these guys.
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The FBI learns that using other people's
accounts to shill bid is a common
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practice at Mastro auctions,
particularly for Bill Mastro himself.
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And his brazen disregard for concealing
his fraud is apparent.
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So much so that it became a joke within
the auction house, and Mr. Mastro became
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embarrassed of the joke.
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So he went to this...
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IT director and asked that the
underbidder records from those auctions
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removed so that there would be no
evidence of the shill bidding.
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If you get rid of the underbidder
records, you can only see the person who
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the item.
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And shill bidding is all about how they
got to that price.
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That basically not only destroyed
evidence related to historical shill
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but ensured that from 2003 to 2007 that
those records would not be available to
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law enforcement.
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It's a devious but ultimately effective
way to keep investigators from seeing
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what is actually going on at Mastro
Auctions.
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And that created difficulty in this
investigation when we decided ultimately
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what the loss numbers were going to be.
Because the investigation was
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handicapped from the fact that during
the charging period, there were 56
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Auctions. Each auction could have
anywhere between 1 ,500 and 2 ,200
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auction lots.
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That's tens of thousands of auction lots
with potential shill bids that law
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enforcement may never uncover.
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But remarkably, as the FBI begins poking
around in 2007, Mastro decides to
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become more transparent and issues a
mandate to keep a record of all bids.
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including shill bids in their auctions.
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Even under investigation, Mastro thinks
he's unhittable.
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My sense was he knew it was unethical
and didn't think it was criminal, and he
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went forward.
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I realize it's wrong, but, you know,
show me the rule that says I can't do
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Despite keeping complete records going
forward, the fraud itself doesn't stop.
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could not be satisfied. They did not
know when to stop.
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And if you're a Bill Master who
absolutely cannot control himself, you
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again, there's a penny on the ground.
That guy is running you over with his
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to grab that penny. And then he'll back
up and run over you again so you can't
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be a witness against him at the trial.
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That's the kind of guy Bill Master was,
and Allen was the same way.
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Whether because of the fraud
investigation or the economic downturn
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Mastro Auctions suddenly can't get the
items or the bids to keep the company
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going. They declare bankruptcy in 2009
and shutter their doors.
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But this fraud is going to extra innings
when American
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Greed returns.
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Mastro and Alan continue to try to stay
a step ahead of the card collecting
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community.
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But there's one blast for me that cannot
be abided.
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He bragged about trimming that card.
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It was sort of like he couldn't help
himself. He had to tell people, I pulled
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one on the world.
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By 2009, the FBI and the Department of
Justice are squeezing in on Bill Mastro
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and his associates.
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And once again, the valuable Honus
Wagner card is at the center of the
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The final nail in the coffin for him was
the FBI had got one of Mastro employees
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to wear a wire, and this guy got... Bill
to tell him the story about how
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he had trimmed the card.
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Bill Mastro discussed the condition of
the card when he purchased it, talked
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about how it had bowed side borders
shaped like a football, and how he
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the sides of that card in order to make
it more attractive.
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To most baseball card collectors,
altering a card's appearance,
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Honus Wagner, is sacrilege.
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I mean, that is like, you know, painting
the edges of the Mona Lisa.
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To do that to this card really is, I
can't even think of words to describe
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It's abhorrent.
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It's about like a car having all
original parts. It's just not the same
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had to replace, you know, something on
it. So same thing with a baseball card.
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The corner got dinged. You want the
corner to remain dinged. That's what
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happened in the history of that card.
That's what happened.
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But Mastro seems to care more about
money than preserving history.
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And to law enforcement, Mastro is guilty
of more than blasphemy.
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He's guilty of fraud.
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Bill Mastro cut the edges of that card
with a paper cutter to make it look more
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pristine, to make it look better, and
then sold the card or was involved in
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sale of that card numerous times without
disclosing to anybody in the market
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that he had manipulated the card.
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It took it from something that can't
even be graded, it's not even on the
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to the most pristine, highest rated
Honus Wagner card in the universe.
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What's the value of that card right now?
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You don't know. I mean, it's worth what
somebody is willing to pay for that
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card. It was sold privately for $2 .7
million.
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So it's still a beautiful card, but it's
a beautiful trimmed card.
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In addition to that fraud, the
Department of Justice determines that
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Auctions conducts shill bidding in 2
,463 auctions in just over six
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years. But before that, it could have
been much worse.
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Nevertheless, Mastro's legacy on the
sports collectible industry is still
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today.
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He certainly popularized this hobby.
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But at the same time, he made it where,
because of his greed, that a card that
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sold for $1 ,000 that perhaps should
have sold for $500, it then ruined all
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card sales going forward.
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And really what happens is now, if
you've got a collection and you've
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over the last 10 or 15 years, consider
the fact that you probably have about a
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25 %...
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tax off the top, a fraud tax, because
you've been duped, you've been shilled,
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you've been defrauded to, I would guess,
probably at least 25 % of your
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collection.
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There's really some fitting sort of
bookends on this.
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In large part, he created this industry.
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And then I think what the mark he
ultimately left as he left the industry
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equally as important.
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This was the first time that the federal
government had really stuck its nose in
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and put its foot down and said, this
conduct is illegal.
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And I do believe this sent a strong
message to the industry, and we're
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that it has cleaned up actions that have
been subsequent to this and other
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auction houses operating in the same
space.
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In August 2014, Doug Allen pleads guilty
to wire fraud.
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After the contentious sentencing
process,
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His punishment puts him behind bars for
a long 57 months.
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Bill Mastro, however, cooperates with
the government.
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He pleads guilty to mail fraud and
receives a brief 20 -month sentence.
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He is now free.
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It's a fact that doesn't sit well with
some of his victims.
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Well, I'll say this. If someone wants to
give me millions and millions of
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dollars to...
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spend 20 months in a minimum security
federal penitentiary i've signed me up
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that so the big lesson you know in a lot
of this sadly the big lesson is that
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crime absolutely pays and it pays a lot
but both of them have to live knowing
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that one is bill mastro and one is doug
allen i wouldn't want that for i i mean
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i'll take being broke any day or being
bill mastro or doug allen
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A cruel Internet fraud leaves a trail of
broken hearts and empty wallets. Every
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day they're out there trolling the
Internet looking for unsuspecting
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All new American Greed next Monday, 10
Eastern.
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CNBC. Get yours.
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The early bird gets the worm. And the
corner office, too.
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