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In this episode of American Greed,
fugitive Jason Derrick Brown is a Mormon
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missionary turned party king.
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From ski trips on the boats to nights
out at the bars to motorcycling and
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in the desert.
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He wanted to be the life of the party.
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Jason's playboy life is bankrolled by a
series of scams. But when money gets
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tight, he plots his most elaborate
scheme yet.
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When people are in desperate situations,
they do desperate things.
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He was down that alley on his
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bicycle and long gone.
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There's a ghost after that.
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It's the morning of November 29th, 2004
in Phoenix, Arizona.
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A Dunbar armored car is making the
rounds in a tony section of town called
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Ahwatukee.
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The truck's driver, James Duncan, has
been on the job for just three weeks.
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He relies on his partner, Robert Keith
Palomares, to show him the ropes.
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It was my first time on that route,
first time I'd met him.
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I didn't know the area, so he'd be like,
turn left here, turn right there, let's
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go around here, park the vehicle here.
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Palomares is the hopper, the employee
who hops off the truck and collects
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deposits from the stores and
restaurants.
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We talked in the whole way about
everything that we both had going on in
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lives. He was from Southern California,
he was about the same age as me, and he
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just really seemed like a really nice
guy.
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The route is busy this day.
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It's the Monday after Thanksgiving
weekend, the kickoff to the holiday
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season.
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The biggest collection of the day is
expected to be the movie theater at the
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east end of the mall.
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The cinema's receipts could be as much
as $100 ,000.
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Palomares tells Duncan to pull into the
theater's drop -off lane.
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He told me to, you know, go in, you
know, through this little driveway area
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just park it here. He's like, I'm going
to go through this door and I'll be back
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in a few minutes.
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The walk to the movie theater is
winding, a 100 -foot journey across a
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and between some ticket kiosks.
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Paul Dalton is a detective with the
Phoenix Police Department.
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Keith normally would have his bag, he's
armed, he has his vest on.
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Probably took one of these two routes
around the center podium here.
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The walk to the door was just very far,
so I lost...
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probably as he got closer and closer to
the building itself.
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Since it's a Monday morning around 10 o
'clock, the courtyard is mostly empty,
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except for one particular man hanging
around a nearby alleyway.
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He's wearing a black hooded sweatshirt
and sunglasses, but doesn't attract too
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much attention.
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People were saying that he was just
standing here right on the corner by
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door.
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Palomares collects the theater's
deposits.
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$56 ,000.
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Places it in the duffel bag and heads
back out the door.
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But just as Palomares rounds the ticket
booth,
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five of the six gunshots hit
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Palomares in the head.
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He had no idea.
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It came on him so quickly and was
shooting immediately.
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He didn't have a chance.
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Police say the gunman grabs the money
bag and sprints down the side alley.
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A mountain bike is waiting for him.
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Just ran, got on his bicycle.
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I mean, it's a perfect route down the
alley, hang a right, and now you're on
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another street in the neighborhood, an
industrial neighborhood.
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Back in the armored truck, James Duncan
is unaware of his partner's fate.
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The trucks are armored.
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The glass on it is very, very thick, and
you combine that with the diesel engine
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in there, and it's just so loud that you
can hardly hear anything.
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Duncan says a man runs up to the truck
and frantically points to the movie
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theater.
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But Duncan can't get out.
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Company protocol requires him to stay
with the truck.
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He inches the vehicle forward to get a
better look.
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I'm freaking out at that point in time.
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Like, my partner's down.
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I called the station, let them know
what's going on.
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The company dispatcher calls 911.
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911, what is the emergency?
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One of my guys has been shot.
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My driver just called and said our guard
is down.
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He's been shot, and he's been shot
several times.
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Please get somebody there.
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I mean, there's all sorts of things that
run through your head.
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I wish I could have just drove the truck
all the way over there.
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I mean, it took a lot out of me to try
not to do something.
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That's for sure.
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The armored car guy is here.
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The guy has been shot at least six
times.
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I think he's dead.
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The officer, he's still moving.
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We'll get some help there, sir.
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Within minutes, police converge on the
site.
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James Duncan's worst fear is confirmed
when he finally exits the truck.
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His partner is dead.
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Keith Palomares is just 24 years old.
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First time I thought there'd be some
hope, but he lost a lot of blood.
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And when they got him on the stretcher,
it was pretty bad.
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It was pretty bad.
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Police cars spread through the Phoenix
streets, but the authorities don't have
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much to go on.
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The murderer appears to have made a
clean getaway.
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Very few witnesses.
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Imagine just kind of wandering around
and hear six gunshots.
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People turn and look, and then you see a
guy in a hoodie just running.
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Nowadays, there's video everywhere.
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Back in 2004, there wasn't as much video
as there is now, and it was difficult
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for us to gather.
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Lance Lysing is an FBI special agent
brought in to work the case.
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Attacking an armored car is a federal
crime.
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We were getting tips and reports, dozens
if not hundreds of them. Any mail on a
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bike was being called in at the time.
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Later that afternoon, the cops finally
catch a break when a police helicopter
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spots a bicycle in an office park.
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The blue and silver mountain bike is
found under bushes just a half mile from
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the murder scene.
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The bike was huge.
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We needed evidence.
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We didn't have much at the scene.
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You can get any DNA or print evidence
off that bike. We can try to track it to
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something.
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Investigators find exactly one
fingerprint on the bike, but it's just
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they need.
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They enter it into the FBI's National
Fingerprint Database, and by the next
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morning, they have a suspect.
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Next on American Greed, investigators
learn that their number one suspect
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your average street thug.
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This was a guy who came from a decent
family foundation, good life.
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It just makes no sense.
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In Phoenix, Arizona, an armored car
guard is dead,
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and the murderer is on the loose.
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But just one day after the killing, the
police have a suspect.
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A fingerprint of the mountain bike is
matched to 35 -year -old Jason Derrick
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Brown.
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He got out cleanly as far as he was
aware. He didn't feel like he left any
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evidence behind.
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He missed wiping off one fingerprint off
the bike, and that's what got us to
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him.
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Brown's fingerprints are in the FBI
database because of a petty theft he and
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brother committed four years earlier.
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They were at a golf shop.
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One of them would distract a clerk, and
the other one would steal high -end golf
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clubs.
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Despite the one -time conviction,
investigators learn that Brown's
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doesn't suggest a cold -blooded killer.
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Originally from the luxurious coastal
town of Laguna Beach, Brown is the
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of a California golden boy.
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He looks like Sean Penn.
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He's got a typical California surfer boy
look.
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He does not fit the profile of a typical
criminal that I've seen.
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and that I've arrested and investigated.
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Not even close.
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Brown's family is active in the Mormon
community.
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His dad was involved in some newspaper
businesses, had other businesses there
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Laguna Beach. By all accounts, nice
family.
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After graduating from Laguna Beach High
School in 1987, Jason Brown spends two
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years as a missionary in France.
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He went on his Mormon mission to Paris,
learned to speak French there, wrote
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letters back to friends and family, how
he really loved his time there as a
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missionary.
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After his mission, Jason gets married
and goes to college.
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He eventually enrolls in the master's
program at the prestigious Monterey
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Institute of International Studies.
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Definitely had everything available to
him. Didn't grow up impoverished, didn't
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grow up somewhere where he had to claw
and scratch and fight to get out of.
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With a silver spoon in his mouth.
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While he appears to be a privileged,
clean -living Mormon on the outside,
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Brown's home life isn't exactly as it
seems.
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Jason's siblings tell investigators that
their dad, John, had a warped view of
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family road trips when they were kids.
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A lot of trips to Tijuana, getting loads
and loads of money and bringing them
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back. Some of those trips were reported
to have organized crime ties.
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Not sure exactly if the money was
related to gambling or drugs or what it
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related to, but there were some
suspicious activity involving his
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In 1994, investigators say John Brown
makes one final road trip.
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In the mid -90s, his father withdrew a
large amount of money from his bank
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account, and his car and him were gone.
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About four months later, his car was
found in Brownsville, Texas, on the
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-U .S. border.
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But he's never been seen from or heard
from again.
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Around the time of his father's
disappearance, for reasons still
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Jason's life appears to change.
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It was sometime after, when he came back
from being that missionary, that they
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described him as becoming focused on
monetary items, wealth, image, you
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know, toys in life.
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Jason spends his days golfing. It's his
obsession.
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He collects expensive cars and other big
boy toys.
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He had beautiful cars, BMW, there was a
3 Series back then. He had motorcycles,
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ATVs, jet skis, a ski boat.
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This formerly clean -living Mormon also
discovers the joys of sin.
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Friends and family tell investigators
that Brown loves to drink and take the
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party drug GHB, known for its sexual
enhancement.
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Gambling in Vegas becomes a favorite
pastime.
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I think he got kind of stir -crazy, his
playboy life.
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And I think the playboy life took over
him, divorced his wife, and then out
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the real Jason Brown.
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Throughout the late 1990s and early
2000s, Jason takes the party on the
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He bounces around several cities in the
western United States, never staying in
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one location for too long.
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He would couch surf. He would just mooch
off of roommates.
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Wouldn't pay rent.
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He had girlfriends in most of these
places as well.
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For a surfer of ocean waves and friend
couches, It might be surprising that
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Jason Brown is always flush with cash,
according to investigators.
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What he did in each one of these places
isn't quite sure.
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Nobody ever reported him having a
legitimate job where he'd go to work,
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in, clock out, get a regular paycheck.
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That just didn't happen.
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Investigators say he likely funds his
lifestyle through a series of scams.
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In Austin, Texas, Brown starts up the...
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picture -perfect modeling agency with
some friends.
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The feds say the company promises
college students dreams of stardom for
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price of just $5 ,000.
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They would try to advertise for college
co -eds to get headshots and photos
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taken by them, and they would take the
fees that the girls would pay to get
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those photographs to start that modeling
career, and they'd take it, and nothing
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would happen with the headshots. They
would just sit.
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In Salt Lake City, Brown buys a bungalow
in the trendy Sugar House neighborhood.
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He officially registers two businesses
to the home, On the Doorstep Advertising
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and Toys Unlimited.
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But investigators say the companies
don't actually sell anything.
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When asked about work or asked about his
business, he would always kind of talk
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in vague terms or, you know, change the
conversation angle to go somewhere else.
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But he would never really...
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answer any question because it really
didn't exist.
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One of Jason's favorite pastimes is
telling people he sells expensive golf
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equipment. He loved playing golf, so he
spent a lot of time in golf courses. He
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would say he was doing that to import
and export golf supplies, high -end golf
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equipment.
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Authorities say Brown's ventures are
mostly small -time cons.
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But things change when he moves to
Arizona.
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Next on American Greed.
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Jason Brown's hunger for cash and the
high life take a deadly turn.
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I think it was out of money.
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When you don't have any money, you can't
play the role of the playboy. You can't
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be going to the clubs.
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In May 2003, wandering con man Jason
Brown needs a new source of revenue and
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sets his sights on Phoenix, Arizona.
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He attends an open house in the
Ahwatukee Foothill, an isolated
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the shadow of South Mountain.
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It's a pretty nice neighborhood.
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I think he fit in in that area and drove
the nice cars and kind of a cool guy.
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Ellen Robinson is the realtor tasked
with finding a renter for the house.
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She says Brown is intrigued by the
home's three -car garage.
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Just that he had a lot of toys and
things that he needed storage.
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You know, a lot of times people will
walk around and open cabinets, and he
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didn't do that. It was fast.
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Ellen is quite familiar with the house.
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She lives right next door.
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Brown tells her that he's an exporter of
golf equipment to Asia. He wastes no
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time moving his toys onto the property.
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He had a Jeep Rubicon, the big black
Escalade.
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He had the BMW, three ATVs for adults,
and then he had a small
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one for children.
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While Jason's sweet rides make him look
like a success, investigators say
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they're the product of yet another scam.
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Bank fraud.
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Everything was underwater.
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Everything, the banks wanted them back.
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The least BMW, the least Cadillac, all
the toys were never paid for.
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The feds say he routinely uses fake
addresses and P .O. boxes to secure bank
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loans.
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Creditors have been on his trail for
years.
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If you're a...
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It's a con man.
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And you've defrauded all his bank loans,
and you've got this Jeep Rubicon that
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you don't want anybody to find.
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You're not going to give them your real
address. You're just going to keep them
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hidden so they don't get repossessed.
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Brown's toys help endear him to his new
neighbors.
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He offers to take Ellen's family out for
a ride on his Mastercraft speedboat.
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And he'd have it in front of the house
getting ready for whatever boating
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expedition with his friends and stuff.
And he just invited us one day, and,
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yeah, it was a fun time.
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Ellen's family becomes close with Brown.
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Her 10 -year -old son, Tyler, is
especially fond of his cool new friend.
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Tyler would, you know, go there and hang
out to watch sports on TV because he
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had, you know, big screen TVs.
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They'd play catch in the street, and,
yeah, they hung out.
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And what's not to like?
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Jason Brown acts like a big kid.
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He loves to water ski, ride ATVs in the
desert, and go mountain biking.
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Escalade had a DVD player, PlayStation
in it, and we'd sit
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there and play PlayStation and listen to
music and drink all night long.
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Michael Campbell lives across the street
from Brown.
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He says partying with his neighbor is
always an adventure.
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Jason loves to be the center of
attention.
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He insists on buying everyone drinks at
the bar, and he always carries a lot of
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money.
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There's probably a lot of cash about
being around.
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That seemed to be his main reason for
living, is to maintain that lifestyle,
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maintain that image of wealthy,
outgoing, charismatic, the party guy.
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But in early 2004, the party ends.
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After less than a year in Arizona, Brown
tells neighbors that he needs to leave
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immediately. He told me that his
brother's wife was diagnosed with cancer
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needed to move back to California to be
there to support the family during this
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time.
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He packed all his belongings up.
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He slept on an extra couch that we had
upstairs, and the next morning, he was
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gone.
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Investigators say they aren't sure what
Jason does in the following months, but
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they do know where he eventually turns
up.
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On Monday, November 8, 2004, Jason Brown
is back in Utah, visiting a gun shop in
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suburban Salt Lake City.
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He pulls up, and it was a silver BMW. I
remember we noticed that because it was
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kind of out of place in that
neighborhood.
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Clark Apotian is a firearms instructor
at the store.
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He says Jason is insistent on taking a
concealed carry class that day.
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And we have a regular classroom, and
he's taught everything from firearm
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handling, you know, the grip, the
stance, the loading, the unloading, the
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alignment, that type of thing.
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The four -hour class ends with a session
at the gun range.
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Clark says Brown's skills are shaky.
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I could tell just by the way he was
handling it, where his trigger finger
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going, where the muzzle direction was
going, just the basic safety concerns
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he hadn't had much experience, if any,
he hadn't had good experience.
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After a half -hour of instruction, Clark
says Brown's skills improved
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significantly.
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When the class finishes, Jason is eager
to buy a gun of his own.
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Now, having just seen him shoot and
knowing what his limitations were, I
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suggested that he get a 9mm, somewhat
like he had just fired.
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He was insistent, no, he wanted a
smaller gun and a more powerful gun.
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Brown buys a .45 caliber Glock Model 30,
a compact yet powerful handgun popular
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with plainclothes police officers.
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He asked, you know, what is the most
powerful handgun ammo for this gun?
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And the top of the line at that time was
Corbin ammunition.
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It's a very high pressure, light bullet
weight load.
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So it goes very fast, has a lot of
power.
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Brown buys two boxes.
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But before he can be on his way, he must
first take care of some paperwork.
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Clark photographs Jason and gets his
fingerprints.
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He must also fill out a background
check.
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We call into the state the Bureau of
Criminal Identification, and they'll run
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that to see if he has any criminal
history or is prohibited from purchasing
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firearm. And it came back affirmative
that he could purchase it, and so he
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walked out with that gun.
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Next on American Greed.
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Jason Brown sets his sights on something
other than paper targets.
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Brown, it appears, had been planning and
plotting and literally hunted a human
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being simply to score some cash.
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I mean, that is just, it's horrifying to
think about.
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Late November 2004.
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Just two weeks after purchasing a gun in
Utah, Jason Derrick Brown returns to
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Arizona.
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He calls his former neighbor, Ellen
Robinson, and asks a favor.
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He called me to say he was driving down
from Vegas, and he said, can I come stay
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with you? And I'm like, of course.
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Jason lives in Ellen's spare bedroom for
about a week.
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He tells her he's in town for business.
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But rather than exporting golf clubs,
investigators say Brown is working on
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other plans.
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What he was doing was conducting
surveillance of the armored car in the
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trying to determine where the armored
car routinely goes.
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Copy times, copy dates.
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Monday mornings, what time do they get
here? Tuesday, what time do they get
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here?
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The day before Thanksgiving, Jason moves
out of Ellen's house and into a hotel
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room just south of the movie theater.
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I offered him to stay and have
Thanksgiving with us, but he said no, he
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going to get back to his family.
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On Sunday, the FBI says he grabs his gun
and drives out to the Tonto National
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Forest, about 40 miles northeast of
Phoenix.
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He places paper plates in mesquite trees
and practices target shooting with his
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new weapon.
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In Arizona, as long as you're in certain
areas of the desert away from roads,
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you can shoot anywhere out there.
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The National Park is a popular
recreation spot.
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The rolling hills and rugged beauty make
it ideal for camping and off -roading.
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That's one of the major areas I go to.
There's lakes up there and lots of
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trails.
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I love to camp out. My son, he likes to
do it just as much.
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Max Newton and his 10 -year -old son
have spent the long holiday weekend
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ATVs in the desert.
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But just as they're packing up their
gear and preparing to head back home,
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is startled by a familiar sound.
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It's kind of like a whizzing sound
flying through the camp.
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Bullets whistle when they come close to
you, especially if they start skipping
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off the ground.
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Jason Brown is unknowingly shooting at
their campsite 200 yards away.
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Max Newton grabs his son and takes cover
behind his truck.
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One bullet strikes the driver's side
door.
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I was yelling, stop shooting.
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There's people up here.
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Quit shooting, you're gone.
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When the gunfire ends, Newton hops on
his ATV and rides toward a silver BMW
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parked along the dirt road.
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He was taking a paper plate out of a
bush, and his trunk was open.
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I confronted him, said, look, you hit my
truck.
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I said, you know, a bush is not a good
backstop.
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Brown apologizes profusely.
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and tells Newton that he'll gladly pay
for any damage to his truck.
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Jason Brown proceeds to write down his
name, address, and phone number on the
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back of a paper plate.
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He even showed me his driver's license
so that I could see that he was writing
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down the actual information that was
true.
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Brown tells Newton to call him when he
gets an estimate of the damage, and then
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makes a curious request.
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Brown specifically asks him not to
remove the bullet from the truck.
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And he said, no, you don't need to get
that thing out of there. Just leave it
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be.
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He kind of wanted that bullet to be
forgotten about, I think.
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The following day, after extensive
preparation, investigators say Jason
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finally ready to put his plan in motion.
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So what he did that morning, likely, was
that he...
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left his hotel room. He had a BMW and a
mountain bike. A lot of people said they
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saw him shoving this mountain bike in
the back of this little two -seater BMW.
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Officers say Brown parks the BMW at an
office park, then rides his mountain
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to the strip mall.
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According to investigators, Brown knows
the armored car should arrive at the
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movie theater around 10 a .m.
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This was a really good plan on Jason's
part.
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Unfortunately, a lot of people, you
know, hate to say it, got caught with
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hands down on this one.
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There was no demand for money. There was
no struggle with the guard. It was just
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boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
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Five rounds from the block 45.
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The victim was hunted.
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This was a planned premeditated attack
on a young guy who was just doing his
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job. For one reason, for money.
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With the $56 ,000 in hand, investigators
say Jason rides his bike to where the
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BMW is stashed.
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I believe his car was parked under here
and came around with his bike to
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this area.
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And from here, the way we found the
bike, most likely just tossed the bike,
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drives away very quietly without knowing
he was here.
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Police say Brown is back at his hotel
room in minutes, before emergency crews
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even arrive at the murder scene.
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By the time the investigation starts,
detectives say Brown is already on the
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for hours.
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Surveillance cameras at the hotel
eventually show Jason lingering at the
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desk. From there, he drives to a nearby
health club.
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Investigators say he carries a black bag
inside, then likely showers and changes
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clothes.
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Drop the bag in a locker, and we have
film of that. And then he leaves, and
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he comes back a couple hours later,
picks up the same bag, and that's
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the money bag.
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After leaving the gym, Brown drives
nearly 300 miles to Las Vegas, where he
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keeps a storage unit.
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In that storage unit were his Cadillac
Escalade, a boat, various other items.
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parked the BMW in that storage unit and
took the Cadillac Escalade and then
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drove to Orange County.
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As Brown is driving...
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He makes and receives numerous phone
calls from family and friends.
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One of the calls is from Max Newton, who
got an estimate on his truck that
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morning.
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Jason's bullet from the previous day did
$1 ,300 worth of damage.
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00:29:51,410 --> 00:29:57,650
I immediately called his cell phone, and
he said, no problem, I'm going to get a
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00:29:57,650 --> 00:30:00,070
check, and I'll send you the check to
take care of the damages.
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00:30:01,409 --> 00:30:04,930
Newton says Brown is calm and collected
on the phone.
446
00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:09,150
Yeah, he talked to me right after he'd
already killed that guy.
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00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:15,250
Some of the things I think about in
retrospect are very disturbing.
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00:30:18,090 --> 00:30:19,710
Next on American Greed.
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00:30:20,970 --> 00:30:26,970
The feds zero in on Jason Brown, but
this slippery con man catches a lucky
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00:30:26,970 --> 00:30:29,700
break. In hindsight, it wasn't a
mistake.
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00:30:30,020 --> 00:30:32,400
If we only waited an hour, we would have
had him.
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00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,480
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00:30:49,980 --> 00:30:53,280
The day after the brutal murder of Keith
Palomares...
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Jason Brown kicks back in Orange County,
California.
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00:30:58,670 --> 00:31:04,070
He crashes with his sister, who lives in
a townhouse in Rancho Santa Margarita.
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00:31:04,690 --> 00:31:07,450
Unexpected visits from Jason are not
unusual.
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00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:11,290
He went out to eat a couple times, I
know, with his sister.
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00:31:12,370 --> 00:31:15,810
His sister described sitting on the
couch watching movies with him at night
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00:31:15,810 --> 00:31:16,990
there in Orange County.
463
00:31:19,050 --> 00:31:22,830
Investigators believe Jason's sister has
no idea what he has done.
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00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:28,200
He acts casual. He visits their brother
David, who lives nearby in Laguna
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00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:33,240
Niguel. The two men play golf and visit
an indoor firing range.
466
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,200
Jason even does some banking.
467
00:31:38,820 --> 00:31:44,520
He did make some deposits into his Wells
Fargo bank account, small deposits, $2
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00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,520
,000, $3 ,000 at a time.
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00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:52,380
Thanks to the fingerprint on the bike,
investigators have a solid lock on Jason
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00:31:52,380 --> 00:31:53,380
Brown's identity.
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00:31:54,420 --> 00:32:00,200
The FBI knows he has family in Orange
County and notices the bank activity.
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00:32:00,780 --> 00:32:05,780
We knew he was in California very
quickly. We knew the area he was in, and
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00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:09,760
were getting very, very close at
pinpointing exactly where he was to put
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00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,960
handcuffs on him and arrest him.
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00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,140
But as the feds close in on Brown, their
pursuit hits an unexpected snag.
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00:32:18,830 --> 00:32:23,430
On December 6th, exactly one week after
the murder, the Phoenix Police
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00:32:23,430 --> 00:32:25,350
Department holds a press conference.
478
00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:31,490
They announce Jason Derrick Brown as the
main suspect in the murder and ask the
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00:32:31,490 --> 00:32:33,730
public to keep an eye out for the
fugitive.
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00:32:34,270 --> 00:32:37,590
We had his information. We knew who he
was. We're working it.
481
00:32:37,910 --> 00:32:44,850
And it was decided to release that
information to the media. A high
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00:32:44,850 --> 00:32:46,750
-profile case like this, the public
wants to know.
483
00:32:48,110 --> 00:32:53,210
But unfortunately, publicity can
sometimes be a double -edged sword.
484
00:32:53,790 --> 00:32:59,330
I got home from work, and I turned the
TV on, and the news was on, and there
485
00:32:59,330 --> 00:33:00,089
this picture.
486
00:33:00,090 --> 00:33:01,930
And I didn't believe it.
487
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:05,410
Ellen and other friends try calling
Brown.
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00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:09,950
TV and newspaper reporters also work the
phones.
489
00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:14,960
Part of the job as a reporter is to look
for connections to both the victim and
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00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,760
the suspect. So we have been calling a
variety of people.
491
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,240
Unfortunately, word got to Jason that an
arrest warrant had been issued for him,
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00:33:23,260 --> 00:33:25,140
and he was a suspect in this homicide.
493
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,400
By the time FBI agents converge on his
sister's house, Jason Brown is gone.
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00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,160
The feds miss him by less than two
hours.
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00:33:37,310 --> 00:33:38,309
It's frustrating.
496
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:39,310
It's very frustrating.
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00:33:39,950 --> 00:33:43,710
Again, looking back, and I remember when
it was released, I'm like, oh, we
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00:33:43,710 --> 00:33:47,470
shouldn't release this, you know. But,
you know, it's out of my hands.
499
00:33:47,950 --> 00:33:51,590
And that decision was made, and we have
to live with it.
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00:33:52,890 --> 00:33:56,170
It's hard to think about because I
believe Jason could have been brought to
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00:33:56,170 --> 00:34:02,550
justice back then. He could easily be in
front of a judge, and justice could be
502
00:34:02,550 --> 00:34:04,830
served. But it didn't happen that way.
503
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,980
Back in Arizona, Max Newton is stunned
when he watches the news that night.
504
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:17,840
So I went over and I got the paper plate
that he'd written his name on, and I
505
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,460
just looked at it and said, that was
him.
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00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,760
He calls the Phoenix police and tells
them of his encounter with Brown the day
507
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:27,760
before the murder.
508
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,719
He shows them the paper plate with
Brown's name, address, and phone number,
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00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,219
the bullet that he dug out of his
truck's door.
510
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:42,139
Unbelievable. A great part of this
investigation relies with that. The
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00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:45,100
ammunition used in the crime is unique
in itself.
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00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:51,340
And with that information, we were able
to compare the crime scene evidence to
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00:34:51,340 --> 00:34:53,040
that evidence, and it matched.
514
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:00,700
Remarkably, just days after Max Newton
contacts the police, he receives an
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00:35:00,700 --> 00:35:04,340
envelope in the mail. It's a check for
$1 ,300.
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00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,860
sent from Jason Brown while he was on
the lam.
517
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,360
I opened it up, and it was a cashier's
check for the exact amount.
518
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,920
I couldn't believe that he'd actually
still mailed me the check.
519
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,500
But that's not all that's in the
envelope.
520
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,140
Jason includes a $50 gift card for Max's
son and an apology note.
521
00:35:27,220 --> 00:35:29,840
He said how bad he felt that he scared
my son.
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00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,140
And, you know, he hoped that my son
would get himself something nice.
523
00:35:37,450 --> 00:35:41,070
So it's definitely a Jekyll and Hyde
kind of move here. I mean, you have a
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00:35:41,070 --> 00:35:45,350
who just shot a young armored car guard
five times in the head with a .45
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00:35:45,350 --> 00:35:50,350
caliber handgun who's still concerned
about buying a gift card for a child and
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00:35:50,350 --> 00:35:54,990
paying the retribution for the door that
he accidentally shot from a stranger in
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00:35:54,990 --> 00:35:55,990
the desert.
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00:35:58,010 --> 00:36:03,990
Next on American Greed, Jason Brown
sends another package in the mail, one
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00:36:03,990 --> 00:36:06,030
that's even more perplexing.
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00:36:07,279 --> 00:36:11,540
This is the end of Jason Derrick Brown
as you know him package, which you have
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00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:14,220
to do. If you're going to get a new
identity, you cut all your ties with
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00:36:14,220 --> 00:36:15,220
family.
533
00:36:27,460 --> 00:36:31,000
In Southern California, Jason Derrick
Brown is on the run.
534
00:36:31,620 --> 00:36:34,500
But FBI agents are now tracking his
movement.
535
00:36:35,850 --> 00:36:38,670
Once again, Brown leaves an electronic
trail.
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00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:44,690
He gets cash from an ATM in South Orange
County, then stops at a gas station.
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00:36:45,090 --> 00:36:51,130
He used the card to fill up with gas
there, somewhere near Dana Point's close
538
00:36:51,130 --> 00:36:54,230
where his sister was, and a video of him
filling up his Cadillac.
539
00:36:55,850 --> 00:37:00,610
Sixty miles south in San Diego, Brown
uses another ATM.
540
00:37:01,510 --> 00:37:03,370
He's headed straight for Mexico.
541
00:37:04,010 --> 00:37:08,510
We put APBs out all over California,
California Highway Patrol, all the
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00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:12,150
checkpoints, all the border crossings,
Border Patrol customs. They were all
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00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:14,370
aware that we were looking for them.
544
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,210
But suddenly, the trail goes cold.
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00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:24,610
Eventually, they stop using the credit
cards, stop using the phones.
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00:37:27,170 --> 00:37:29,850
There's no sign that Jason ever gets to
the border.
547
00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:34,450
But in a few days, he sends a mysterious
package to his brother.
548
00:37:35,070 --> 00:37:39,910
The package is mailed from San Diego and
contains a bizarre assortment of items.
549
00:37:40,450 --> 00:37:45,270
A cell phone, his fitness club
membership card, and walkie -talkies.
550
00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:49,530
A few days later, a second package
arrives.
551
00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:56,070
Surprisingly, this one is postmarked
Portland, Oregon, 1 ,000 miles to the
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00:37:56,070 --> 00:37:57,070
north.
553
00:37:57,170 --> 00:37:58,910
Jason didn't like Mexico very much.
554
00:37:59,530 --> 00:38:02,890
He probably had second thoughts, changed
his mind and thought, maybe I can make
555
00:38:02,890 --> 00:38:03,890
it to Canada.
556
00:38:03,950 --> 00:38:10,250
The package from Portland contains a
laptop computer, more clothing, and a
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00:38:10,250 --> 00:38:11,250
handgun.
558
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:17,110
He sent the 9mm Glock, not the Glock
used to kill Keith, but a Glock that his
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00:38:17,110 --> 00:38:20,510
brother had had at his house and claimed
that Jason had stolen from him.
560
00:38:21,150 --> 00:38:27,410
Also included are videos featuring
Jason's favorite subject.
561
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:33,200
All his escapades.
562
00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:40,020
I love me pictures of me on a boat and
water skiing and all the toys and girls
563
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:41,960
and friends and partying.
564
00:38:42,460 --> 00:38:46,480
This is the end of Jason Derrick Brown
As You Know Him package.
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00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,860
In January 2005, Jason Brown's black
Escalade is found at the Portland
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00:38:55,860 --> 00:38:56,940
International Airport.
567
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,020
Authorities say it's been sitting there
for nearly a month.
568
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:05,280
It was in disrepair. The life plate was
taken off the back. The window was
569
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:06,138
broken out.
570
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:10,880
It looked like somebody wanted us to
think it was broken into, but it didn't
571
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,020
look ransacked inside.
572
00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:18,860
Around the same time the escalators
found, the feds say Jason's brother
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00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:20,300
travels to Las Vegas.
574
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,480
Agents say David Brown cleans out his
brother's storage unit and the missing
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00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,480
silver BMW.
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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:33,200
David goes to Las Vegas, takes the BMW
that Jason used during the homicide, and
577
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,520
completely has it detailed inside and
out, cleans it out completely, and
578
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,560
destroys any potential DNA, hair, fiber
evidence that could be in there for us.
579
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:47,280
The FBI says David Brown previously told
them he didn't know what the BMW was.
580
00:39:47,580 --> 00:39:52,480
He eventually pleads guilty to felony
obstruction of justice and receives
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00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,180
years of supervised probation.
582
00:39:54,970 --> 00:39:56,830
As investigators, we try to be
objective.
583
00:39:57,090 --> 00:40:01,710
But, yeah, I mean, there are facts here
that indicate that David didn't know
584
00:40:01,710 --> 00:40:06,210
what was going on or didn't know at
least immediately after it happened. I
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00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:07,210
be shocked.
586
00:40:07,690 --> 00:40:12,590
The BMW was one of the last good chances
of gathering clues about Jason's
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00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:13,590
whereabouts.
588
00:40:14,190 --> 00:40:20,170
After his adventures in Portland, the
FBI says he likely crosses into Canada
589
00:40:20,170 --> 00:40:21,690
ultimately vanishes.
590
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:23,910
So we think that's a likely route?
591
00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:28,850
Can I say it absolutely happened? I
can't. But the tips do lead us to
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00:40:28,850 --> 00:40:34,870
that he did cross the border and he was
traveling east through Canada towards
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00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:35,930
the French -speaking portions.
594
00:40:37,790 --> 00:40:43,890
In December 2007, the FBI places Jason
Brown on their 10 most wanted list,
595
00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:45,370
he remains to this day.
596
00:40:46,110 --> 00:40:49,650
For a period of time, Osama bin Laden
was on the list right next to Jason
597
00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:58,070
They're offering $200 ,000 for
information that leads to his capture.
598
00:40:58,430 --> 00:41:02,670
Jason fit well within the profile of the
FBI's top ten list, mainly because of
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00:41:02,670 --> 00:41:08,010
his background. He has a high education,
graduate classes in international
600
00:41:08,010 --> 00:41:12,230
business, speaks fluent French. The
ability of him to be international is
601
00:41:12,310 --> 00:41:13,850
very likely.
602
00:41:14,290 --> 00:41:20,750
I believe he's out of the United States.
I believe he's living a false life,
603
00:41:20,910 --> 00:41:22,270
probably scamming.
604
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:23,710
the person he's with.
605
00:41:24,010 --> 00:41:27,470
It's hard to believe, but you may be
that person sitting behind a computer
606
00:41:27,470 --> 00:41:32,430
collecting a salary every day, hoping
that no one will recognize him.
607
00:41:34,330 --> 00:41:39,750
Anyone with information on Jason Brown
should call the FBI's tip line at 1 -800
608
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:43,030
-CALL -FBI or visit their website.
609
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:49,050
These artist renderings show how Jason
may have aged over the years.
610
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:54,030
He's now in his mid -40s and could
possibly have darker or longer hair.
611
00:41:54,710 --> 00:41:56,950
And he still resembles a certain actor.
612
00:41:57,790 --> 00:42:01,190
We've detained two different individuals
who have worked as Sean Penn's body
613
00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:04,150
double, thinking they were Jason Brown
in the San Francisco area.
614
00:42:05,170 --> 00:42:10,190
There's a theory that Jason may have
reunited with his father, who
615
00:42:10,190 --> 00:42:13,590
decade before him. But the feds aren't
buying it.
616
00:42:13,830 --> 00:42:15,910
Both Jason and his dad had a motivation
to flee.
617
00:42:17,240 --> 00:42:21,160
I guess that's a conspiracy theory that
they're somewhere together, but we
618
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,220
haven't determined that to be a fact.
619
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:29,400
Authorities say just one good tip is all
it would take to bring this mystery to
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00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,098
an end.
621
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,580
We're not going to stop. We're going to
keep looking for him. He's going to stay
622
00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:34,740
on that top ten list, and we're going to
find him.
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