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In this episode of American Greed,
Indianapolis businessman Tim Durham
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like a Hollywood playboy.
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Tim liked flash.
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He liked car companies and cigar bars
and ultra lounges and yachts. He dates
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models, drives super exotic cars.
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I had a nail in the tire, cost $22 ,000.
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And owns a $6 million yacht.
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I mean, I like material things,
absolutely.
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I think that's what drives the American
economy.
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I think everybody's materialistic.
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Durham's ambition?
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To be the world's richest man.
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At the end of the day, when I breathe my
last breath, I'd like to be there to
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work more than anyone else in the world.
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But this master of the universe perverts
Midwestern values by stealing $200
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million from blue -collar workers,
farmers, firemen, school
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bus drivers.
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And I just would like to ask him, was it
worth it where you are now? Would you
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do it again?
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I first shot with Playboy in 2006.
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And 2007.
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And then I was on Beauty and the Geek
Season 3.
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Megan Hauserman is a reality TV star
known for her work on dating shows.
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I was on VH1's Rock a Love, Charm
School, and Rock a Love 2.
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VH1's I Love Money.
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And then I had my own show, Megan Wants
a Millionaire.
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In the summer of 2007, Megan gets a call
from her modeling agency.
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But it's not her typical gig.
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The client isn't a fashion photographer
or film director.
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He's an Indiana businessman named Tim
Durham.
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And Tim contacted the agency saying that
he was having a big 44th birthday party
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in which he wanted to do as a Playboy
-style mansion theme.
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And he wanted to hire about 25 girls
from a modeling agency in L .A. and fly
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them out for his party.
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The 25 models are flown to Indianapolis,
first class.
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At the airport, they're picked up in
Rolls Royces.
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And then they're off to a mysterious
destination.
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Well, we were driving through basically
the woods in the middle of nowhere. You
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know, there was small, moderate family
homes. And then all of a sudden there's
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like a castle. It looks like a hotel or
resort or something.
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And it was his house.
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Hi, I'm Tim Durham.
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Durham's party, the likes of which
Indianapolis has never seen, is coming
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later.
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His story begins in Seymour, Indiana.
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Seymour inspired the song Small Town by
John Mellencamp, who has deep family
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roots here and grew up in Seymour about
the same time Tim Durham did.
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But farms, tractors, and little pink
houses don't impress Durham much.
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as he explained in this 2007 interview
with CNBC.
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I didn't come from, you know, a wealthy
background.
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You know, my dad is a dentist. He, you
know, I think he drove a Honda for, I
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don't know, 15 years, you know, and he
said, this is good enough. I can get my
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golf clubs in the bag and that's really
all you need in life.
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And that was his philosophy.
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He never had any aspirations for money,
to make money. So I'm not sure actually
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where I got that desire from because my
mother really didn't either.
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But I always did have an aspiration to
do that.
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By his first year of law school, Durham
has already topped his old man.
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According to former classmates, he
arrives at Indiana University in a BMW.
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After graduating near the top of his
class, he joins one of the most
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law firms in town,
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Ice Miller.
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I know some people who worked with him
at Ice Miller, and he was certainly well
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regarded.
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viewed as ambitious, very smart.
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Reporter Greg Andrews has written dozens
of articles about Tim Durham's business
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ventures. So there were no signs of sort
of an underside of Tim Durham at that
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point. He seemed to be on a very
traditional, successful path. He married
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Servas, who was the daughter of a
longtime city councilman.
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Very powerful guy here, Bert Servas. He
was not someone who was in the paper all
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the time, but he certainly was in a
position to make things happen and did
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things happen.
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In addition to running city council,
Bert Servas is a master of the leveraged
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buyout, using debt to buy companies and
then working to fix them and flip them
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for a profit.
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And Bert took his new son -in -law under
his wing and taught him the game of
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leveraged buyout.
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And he basically sat me down one day and
said, you know, if you really want to
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do well in life and make money, you need
to get into equity.
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You need to get into owning and managing
companies and that kind of thing.
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Working for people, doing the deals, and
do the deals yourself.
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By the late 1990s, Durham's marriage has
ended.
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But business is just starting to take
off.
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He goes out on his own and buys his
first company, Lake City Forge in
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When I started, I bought a forging
operation, put a machine shop with it,
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real well. You know, I virtually had no
money, so I borrowed everything.
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And, you know, I think I netted
somewhere around $14 million, $15
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that first deal. So it helps if your
first deal works.
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And so that propelled me into a lot of
other ventures.
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In 2001, Durham founds Obsidian
Enterprises.
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Obsidian's purpose is to buy out small
manufacturing companies that are leaders
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in their industries.
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At the time, Jeff Osler is Tim Durham's
brother -in -law and the vice president
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at Obsidian.
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Osler says that while winning is
important to Durham, the most important
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is the appearance of success.
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It was about perception.
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It was about what other people perceived
Obsidian was.
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Durham hires a tailor to make custom
-made suits for everyone in Obsidian's
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office. At Christmas, everyone gets a
Rolex.
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If the point is to create a halo effect
around Durham and Obsidian, it works.
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I just thought it might be a machine
we'd want to finance.
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The doctors using it are making a ton on
it.
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Soon, money starts to flow into his
sister company, Obsidian Capital
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which allows wealthy individuals to
invest their own money in Tim Durham's
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Based on his record with those earlier
leveraged buyouts, a who's who of
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Indianapolis, investors all flocked to
be part of this.
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In 2002, Durham makes a trade that
really puts him on the map.
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He acquires stock in Brightpoint, an
Indianapolis -based distributor of cell
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phones. I think its market cap got at
one point as high as $2 billion, and
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it fell all the way down to $6 to $8
million.
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It was just unreal.
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Looked at that and said, you know, this
is worth a bet, and started acquiring
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stock, and I put about a million dollars
in it.
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It rebounded. The company did well. Came
back, you know, four or five years
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later, and I made somewhere between $30
and $40 million on that deal. For a
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million -dollar investment, it was a
good deal.
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Tim Durham is on a roll, and it looks
like nothing can stop him.
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Next on American Greed, a $6 million
yacht, a $1 .8 million sports car,
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a mansion with every possible amenity.
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We wallpapered the ceiling, which is
another unusual treatment, but a
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can do a lot with an unlimited budget.
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And later, party planning Durham style.
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Then we went to the mall and he just
pulled out a credit card and said
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we needed we could get.
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And he wanted us to be really happy for
the party.
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In Indianapolis, businessman Tim Durham
says he has made tens of millions of
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dollars in the leveraged buyout
business.
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But he longs to replace the M in
millionaire with a B.
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At the end of the day, when I breathe my
last breath, I'd like to be worth more
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than anyone else in the world.
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Statements like this rub many people the
wrong way, says reporter Daniel
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Comiskey.
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You know, in the Midwest, we tend to
be...
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Humble. When we have money, we don't
want people to know it.
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He was none of those things.
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Durham offers no apologies for his bold
ambition.
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People ask me, why do you say that? I
don't think Michael Jordan ever went out
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on the basketball court and said, man, I
just hope I'm mediocre today.
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I don't think Tiger Woods tried to play
in a golf tournament where he said, I
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hope I come in in the middle of the
pack.
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The self -styled Michael Jordan of
leveraged buyouts goes on a spending
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the early 2000s.
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He buys up nitty -gritty companies,
including a rubber recycler in
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a trailer manufacturer in Indiana, and a
company that makes tour buses.
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But a big opportunity comes in 2002 when
Durham's brother -in -law and business
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scout, Jeff Osler, tells him about a
company that's for sale in Akron, Ohio.
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Its name is Fair Finance.
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I read through the memorandum.
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Look like a very solid company, very
strong earnings, very consistent
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Here's how Fair Finance makes money.
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Suppose a health club has $100 ,000 in
accounts receivable it expects to
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from members over the next year.
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Fair Finance might offer the club $90
,000 to buy the debt outright.
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The club gets cash immediately and
doesn't have to worry about collections.
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Fair Finance, which has a team of
collectors, might be able to get most of
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$100 ,000 owed.
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Every dollar over its investment of $90
,000 is profit. The more it collects,
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the more profit it makes.
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So it's not a flashy, super exciting
business, but it could be a very
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one, and Fair had done it for many, many
decades.
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To buy consumer debt on a large scale,
Fair Finance needs lots of cash.
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It gets it from individual investors who
buy Fair Finance investment
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certificates.
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The certificates are a popular savings
vehicle for middle -class Ohioans like
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Harold Crawford, who retired from the
Akron Fire Department after 33 years of
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service. I advise it for any young
fellow who wants to be a fireman because
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have a lot of fun.
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We're a big family.
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Though Crawford loves the life of a
fireman, it comes at a painful cost.
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When he dies, his wife doesn't get his
pension.
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And I got thinking about this. I said, I
got to make some money to put in the
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bank and don't use.
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His father has invested in Fair Finance
since 1936 and has seen steady returns.
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He highly recommends this locally owned
and family -run company to his son.
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And I started putting money in there and
built a pretty good account.
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And all the time, Fair Finance was
great.
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Oh, I like this picture. This is my
favorite family picture. It's Dad and
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60th wedding anniversary.
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That's how I remember Dad smiling.
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Jane Kalina and Donna Immel's father,
Herman Nussbaum, started investing in
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Finance in 1965.
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Dad was a very frugal man.
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He worked very hard all his life.
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He was a farmer and a part -time mason,
so whenever he had extra money, he would
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invest it into a certificate.
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When the Fair family had it, it was a
very, very good investment, so that's
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where he put his money.
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Barb Lukasik is a former nun who now
babysits children.
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When she leaves the sisterhood to care
for her sick father, she is far behind
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planning for retirement.
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Lou Kasich puts every extra penny into
Fair Finance and eventually accrues $125
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,000.
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And the reason I went with Fair Finance,
my Uncle Joe knew Mr. Ray Fair, and
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everyone,
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including my uncle, loved him. They said
he was a wonderful man, very honest,
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and he said, Barb, I think you should do
this.
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So in 2002, when Tim Durham buys Fair
Finance from Donald Fair, the son of the
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company's founder, He's buying a company
with a track record of success and a
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history of honesty.
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Durham buys it not through Obsidian, but
through a new entity, Durham Cochran
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Investments, which he's founded with a
friend, James Cochran.
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The investors who speak with American
Greed say they are unaware of the change
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in ownership.
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I had no clue that in 2002 that Fair
Finance was sold to Mr. Durham.
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Don't remember seeing any of the
circulars. I didn't know about it.
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knows. And I once, years went by, I
guess two or three years went by before
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actually anybody learned that it was
sold.
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By the time they find out, it will be
too late.
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There's a new captain at the helm of
Fair Finance, and investors will be
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to see where their money is going.
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Usually pay $200 ,000 to $300 ,000 over.
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Oh my God.
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About $1 .8 million.
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$1 .8 million?
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I had a nail in the tire.
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And they run flat, so it never went
flat. Then I had to change the tire. It
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$22 ,000.
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$22 ,000 for a tire.
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That was my money.
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Up next, the Hugh Hefner of the
Heartland.
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Well, he wanted to kind of style it like
a Playboy Mansion party. So, you know,
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he wanted all the girls to wear lingerie
and Playboy outfits.
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I'm Tim Durham.
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He's never been shy about trumpeting his
success.
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Come on in and see where I hang out.
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And in 2007, Tim Durham opened up his
life to the local and national media.
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Tim courted attention at that time.
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Daniel Comiskey is deputy editor of
Indianapolis Monthly.
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In my business, I have to call rich guys
a lot, and the answer almost always is
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forget about it.
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Tim not only was willing to speak to me,
he wanted to have me out. He wanted to
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be in the magazine. He wanted to give me
all the access I needed.
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Durham invites Comiskey and also a CNBC
documentary crew down to Miami to see
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his yacht.
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Yeah, I mean, it's a 100 -foot boat.
It's an asthma. I think they run between
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million, $7 million.
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I had a smaller boat, and as I said, you
kind of graduate up from small boats,
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bigger boat to bigger boat to bigger
boat, and you finally go, okay, this is
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enough. The Obsidian costs $5 ,000 a
month just to dock, and it burns
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250 gallons of gasoline per hour.
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Well, I just reflect on how much money I
spend, and that's really how lucky I
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am. I believe that yacht had seven
bedrooms, and every bedroom had its own
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bathroom with beautiful tile work and,
you know, glass stairs lit from below up
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to the upper deck.
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I mean, I like material things,
absolutely.
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I think that's what drives the American
economy.
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I think everybody's materialistic.
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On deck is Tim's girlfriend, Jamie
Farrell, who was Playboy magazine's Miss
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January in 1997.
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This is my brief moment of
photojournalism here, shooting Jamie
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Playboy like this.
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Best shot I've ever taken.
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Life is good, and Durham makes a show of
spreading his good fortune.
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He would tip everyone a $100 bill, every
last person, the guy who tied up the
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boat, the girl who served him a drink on
the boat. When we went out to
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restaurants, every busboy who came by
got a $100 tip.
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He wanted people to know how rich he
was.
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Durham takes CNBC on a tour of his home.
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a 12 ,000 -square -foot mansion on the
shores of Indianapolis' Geist Reservoir.
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Realtor Greg Cooper knows the territory.
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It's a very affluent area. The water
property is limited, so it's highly
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after, and the properties along the
front of the water proper are very, very
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expensive.
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Well, this is my house.
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Chateau Durham has wallpaper on the
ceilings and fine art on the walls.
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This series is one that Peter sent me
for my birthday.
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Durham counts as a friend pop artist
Peter Max, who creates this Warhol
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portrait. You did one for
Schwarzenegger, you did one for Clinton.
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you keep them together, and they've got
to stay in this position.
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Well, I think the message is pretty hard
to miss. It's a huge wall of Tim
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Durham's face, right? It's a monument to
his ego.
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There's no hiding behind that, nor would
he have wanted to.
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These two chairs are for people to sit
here and just admire me for hours.
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But cars are his biggest obsession.
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He builds a two -story, 20 -car garage.
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But that holds just a fraction of his
collection of 70 automobiles, from
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classics like Duesenberg... It really is
like having a lot of little kids.
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...to this $1 .8 million Bugatti.
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If I lose the key, it's $5 ,000 to
replace the key. So I watch the key very
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closely. Yeah, everything about that car
is expensive.
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But he also has some everyday cars.
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A friend of mine, I was telling you
about Ludacris, called me one day. He
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asks me every day, what car are you in?
What car are you in? I said, well, it's
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rainy today, so I'm in a Bentley. He
goes, that's your rainy day car?
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For office space, Durham rents the top
floor of the Chase Tower, the highest
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point in Indiana.
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Well, you took the elevator to the top
floor of the Chase Tower, and as soon as
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you got off the elevator, there was a
large wall of glass with glass doors.
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walked through it.
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And Tim's office itself was huge.
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I mean, it was the size of a house, and
it was very high -priced real estate.
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There were only a handful of people who
worked there in this enormous office.
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So it was not about doing business. It
was about image.
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While Durham works hard to craft public
perception, some insiders at Obsidian
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are growing concerned about his
spending.
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Jeff Osler, once Durham's brother -in
-law and senior vice president at
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Obsidian, says Durham can blow $100 ,000
a day in Las Vegas.
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My concern was, as quick as it's getting
spent, how do we continue to make it?
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We can't make it quick enough.
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before it's gone.
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If the personal spending wasn't
concerning enough, there's the apparent
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in business strategy.
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No longer content buying Rust Belt
factories, Durham pumps money into
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projects, restaurants, nightclubs,
magazines.
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He's even gone Hollywood, buying
National Lampoon, the once great comedy
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that has since fallen on hard times.
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But maybe National Lampoon is a perfect
fit because Tim Durham's life is a rich
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man's animal house.
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I had some ideas on it was going to be
pretty crazy and pretty big, but I had
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idea it was going to be what it was.
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In the summer of 2007, Durham throws
himself a 45th birthday party.
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Calling it a pajama party, he says for
one weekend, his house will be like the
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Playboy Mansion.
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They had a...
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body paint artists there.
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So a lot of the models were basically,
their pajamas were painted on.
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He had girls from Playboy there, a lot
of naked women, B -list movie stars.
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This is a picture of Kato Kaelin
mingling with his guests at his birthday
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Megan Hauserman, a model and reality TV
star, is one of about 25 women flown in
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from L .A. to make the party more
festive.
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There was just, all the girls were just
there to have a good time. We were just
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drinking, you know, obviously there was
several open bars.
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And we were kind of just looked at by
the local Indiana residents.
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Like, where did these girls come from?
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Amid the ice sculptures shaped as dollar
signs, Tim Durham holds court.
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He had a huge stack of $100 bills in his
pocket. He was walking around in silk
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pajamas thinking he was Hugh Hefner with
like a girl on each of his arms.
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And the birthday cake itself?
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On display in Tim's car museum in front
of his $2 million Bugatti, he had a
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gigantic cake with his face printed on
it.
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And it was like a million dollar bill.
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And then once the party got started, he
was just throwing money everywhere,
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throwing hundred dollar bills off his
balcony over like the dance floor.
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And he was pretty crazy. It just seemed
like it wasn't, you know, people that
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throw around that much money doesn't
seem like they work very hard for it.
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Like something didn't seem right.
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Up next on American Greed.
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An old friend dropped a dime on Durham,
and the FBI gets a warrant for his
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phone. I mean, it's just basically we
make $25, $28 million of loans and ban
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Hello.
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By 2008, Tim Durham has moved to Los
Angeles.
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He owns this $3 million house in the
Hollywood Hills and also rents this 16
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-square -foot mansion for $25 ,000 a
month.
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But he still keeps this 12 ,000 -square
-foot mansion in Indiana.
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There was very little about Indianapolis
that he loved.
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Tim was from this place, but not really
of it. You know, he liked the fast life
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in Los Angeles.
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In L .A., Durham hangs with stars, like
the rapper Ludacris, and dates a new
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girlfriend, a model actress and former
penthouse pet of the year, Erica Taylor.
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Durham says he needs to be closer to one
of the jewels in his crowd, L .A.-based
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National Lampoon.
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Little does he know, trouble at Lampoon
will be the beginning of the end.
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On December 17, 2008...
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Durham's friend and business partner in
Lampoon, Dan Lakin, steps down as the
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company's CEO after he's indicted for
allegedly manipulating its stock price.
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Facing jail time, Dan Lakin says he has
a story to tell about his old friend.
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Special Agent Dennis Hallidon oversees
the investigation for the FBI.
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He said that Tim Durham's lifestyle was
essentially financed by a company out of
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Ohio called Fair Finance.
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He described the company as almost like
a bank and that Tim had taken loans and
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about $100 million out of the company
over a period of years and that it was
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source of all his wealth.
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Fair Finance is the consumer financial
company in Ohio that Durham bought in
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2002.
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About 5 ,000 investors, primarily middle
-class retirees, get steady returns
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from Fair Finance.
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Many families...
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like the family of investor Barb
Lukasik, have been with FAIR for
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and know the founder, Ray FAIR.
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From what I've gathered over the years,
he was a wonderful man, and it was a
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wonderful company. Everybody had great
respect for him and for the company.
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Many investors don't know the company
has been sold to Tim Durham.
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Herman Nussbaum, a retired farmer, has
$170 ,000, his entire nest egg, invested
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in FAIR.
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He always plows the returns back into
the company.
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And I just said, well, Dad, I said,
maybe it'd be a good idea to diversify a
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little bit. He said, no.
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He said, Fair Finance has treated me
well, and I don't have any problems with
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it. And he went and reinvested it.
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Around the same time that Dan Lakin
talks to the FBI, Greg Andrews, editor
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the Indianapolis Business Journal, gets
a call from an anonymous source.
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This deep throat tells much the same
story as Dan Lakin, that Tim Durham is
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plundering fair finance.
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He ended up using fair like it was his
own personal bank.
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He needed money, he would just draw it
out of fair.
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Andrews discovers that Durham withdraws
millions from fair finance in the form
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of loans to himself and the businesses
in his leveraged buyout empire.
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But these aren't loans like the average
home mortgage or car loan.
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I think these were loans in quotation
marks.
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Maybe they were originally intended to
be loans, but they weren't repaid. A lot
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of times there was very little
documentation.
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Andrew's investigation reveals these
loans bankrolled Durham's lavish
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and allow him to perpetuate the illusion
that he's a successful businessman.
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These loans that he made to himself and
to his friends and to his other failing
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businesses got bigger and bigger and
bigger.
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There was a point that he must have
thought to himself, there's no way I'll
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pay this money back.
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Across town and FBI headquarters,
Special Agent Dennis Halligan subpoenas
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records for Fair Finance to see if these
allegations might be true.
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Ultimately, the records kind of bore
out.
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what Dan Lakin was saying. And over a
period of years, the record showed that
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about $90 million had been sent from
Ohio to accounts here in Indianapolis
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were under the control of Mr. Durham.
Though he needs more evidence to prove
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Agent Halligan suspects Durham is
perpetrating a massive financial crime.
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In the fall of 2009, he gets a warrant
to tap Durham's phone and sets up a wire
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room to run round the clock.
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Up next, Durham and his gang live like
ballers, but they're desperate for
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dollars.
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I bought another $383 ,000 from my
mother -in -law.
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How about I explain this?
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slash American Greed.
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In November 2009, FBI agents listen as
Tim Durham huddles up with his inner
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circle. Jim Cochran, who is now Fair
Finance's chairman, and Rick Snow, the
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company's chief financial officer.
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They have a lot to talk about.
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In the wake of reporter Greg Andrews'
expose of Fair Finance, investors are
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worried that Tim Durham is using their
money to fund his extravagant lifestyle.
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The wiretap, that's all they talked
about, was how they were basically going
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keep investors from figuring out the
true condition of the company, and this
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all done on the phone.
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Yeah, most of the big -time investors
that had 200 -plus thousand, we had lots
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of conversations with.
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Jim Cochran is Durham's point man in
Ohio.
429
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,260
These days, he's answering anxious
questions from investors.
430
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,040
Most have asked directly, you know, have
you taken money and used it to your own
431
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,760
benefit, our money, invested money?
432
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,620
Of course I said no.
433
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,540
And, you know, you're not buying houses
and cars with this money.
434
00:29:38,260 --> 00:29:39,340
And I said no.
435
00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,080
Okay, well, then we're okay.
436
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:47,560
Saying they're okay could not be further
from the truth, according to the FBI.
437
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,780
Very quickly we realized that... Tim
Durham was broke and so was Fair
438
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,240
that they were struggling to make
redemptions to investors.
439
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:58,980
They were delaying interest payments to
investors.
440
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,580
Do those two really have to go out
today?
441
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:08,760
In one case, Durham delays paying the
grieving heirs of an investor who has
442
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,760
died.
443
00:30:10,020 --> 00:30:15,160
And let me tell you what, death is easy
to push out. You can just tell the
444
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,700
executive of the state, you know.
445
00:30:17,470 --> 00:30:21,090
Sorry, you've got to wait a couple more
weeks. I just don't see that as a big
446
00:30:21,090 --> 00:30:22,090
issue.
447
00:30:22,790 --> 00:30:26,390
No, I don't either. They're not going to
redeposit with us anyway, so who gives
448
00:30:26,390 --> 00:30:27,510
a... I agree.
449
00:30:28,390 --> 00:30:33,070
At this time, in November 2009, the
stakes could not be higher.
450
00:30:33,770 --> 00:30:37,630
Durham is trying to raise more money
from investors than he ever has before.
451
00:30:38,690 --> 00:30:40,010
$250 million.
452
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:46,070
But to issue the debt, Durham needs the
formal approval of Ohio regulators.
453
00:30:47,310 --> 00:30:51,290
Like students cramming for a final,
they're gathering hundreds of pages of
454
00:30:51,290 --> 00:30:52,670
documents to make their case.
455
00:30:52,990 --> 00:30:55,090
But Durham remains confident.
456
00:30:55,750 --> 00:30:59,930
At one point, they kind of chuckled with
themselves that they really don't
457
00:30:59,930 --> 00:31:02,810
expect a lot of trouble with the
securities regulators because the guy at
458
00:31:02,810 --> 00:31:06,570
state securities office didn't seem that
sharp.
459
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:10,510
My feeling is give them a shitload more
information.
460
00:31:12,010 --> 00:31:16,070
So that there's just so much it
overwhelms a guy. My guess is the guy at
461
00:31:16,070 --> 00:31:17,910
state of Ohio is a financial genius.
462
00:31:19,150 --> 00:31:20,630
Yeah, I think you're right.
463
00:31:21,310 --> 00:31:24,990
Their contempt is also apparent when it
comes to investors.
464
00:31:25,790 --> 00:31:30,850
Durham and Cochran discuss a TV
commercial they've produced that they
465
00:31:30,850 --> 00:31:32,290
smooth over everything.
466
00:31:33,890 --> 00:31:39,970
I'll tell you what, I watched that
dance. It's pretty damn good.
467
00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:46,720
An Ohio company celebrating 75 years of
service. We have weathered the storm.
468
00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:49,180
Together, we are Fair Finance.
469
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,960
Well, if you're an investor, you're at
peace.
470
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,740
You're at total peace with that.
471
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:02,520
Under Durham's watch, Fair Finance has
changed its business model.
472
00:32:02,860 --> 00:32:08,480
Instead of buying accounts receivable,
it is now primarily lending money to Tim
473
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,480
Durham and his company.
474
00:32:10,220 --> 00:32:15,200
But as Agent Halligan explains, most of
these loans aren't being paid back and
475
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,940
most likely never will be.
476
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,720
Champion Trailer had a loan with Fair
Finance of $8 .8 million.
477
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,200
It was out of business, but yet it still
owed money.
478
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,580
Pyramid Coach, another business that was
out of business at the end, owes $6
479
00:32:31,580 --> 00:32:35,120
million. He's representing that these
are all collectible loans, that these
480
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,480
loans that we'll pay at some point.
481
00:32:39,130 --> 00:32:42,230
Bankrupt companies rarely repay their
debts.
482
00:32:42,470 --> 00:32:47,930
But in this recording, Jim Cochran brags
about how he has fooled an investor,
483
00:32:48,230 --> 00:32:51,910
telling him these worthless loans are
valuable assets.
484
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:10,790
You are good, Mr. Cochran.
485
00:33:11,610 --> 00:33:15,990
Well, you are the best at this.
486
00:33:18,030 --> 00:33:22,710
The conversation showed that they had
the intent to deceive investors about
487
00:33:22,710 --> 00:33:26,810
true condition, that they needed new
money. They needed to entice investors
488
00:33:26,810 --> 00:33:30,530
bring in money to invest in the company,
to buy certificates, to keep everything
489
00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:31,790
going. If the money stopped,
490
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:34,150
everything, the music stopped.
491
00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:36,510
Next on American Greed.
492
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:42,800
Special Agent Harrington believes he
needs to move now before more investors
493
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,160
burned. We had to step in and shut it
down.
494
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:05,800
In Akron, Ohio, fair finance investor
Barb Lukasik makes most of her money
495
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,400
running a home -based daycare.
496
00:34:07,820 --> 00:34:11,719
She doesn't take in much, barely enough
to pay her bills.
497
00:34:12,380 --> 00:34:18,000
But as a former nun, she's accustomed to
living simply, and she says she does it
498
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,460
because she loves children.
499
00:34:20,020 --> 00:34:26,120
I've been doing it probably now over 25
years because some of my oldest ones are
500
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,500
finished with college.
501
00:34:27,949 --> 00:34:31,909
to jobs, you know, and it's been a real
blessing for me and for them.
502
00:34:32,489 --> 00:34:38,889
Lukasik has managed to save $125 ,000,
her life savings, which she has invested
503
00:34:38,889 --> 00:34:40,090
with Fair Finance.
504
00:34:40,830 --> 00:34:47,270
In November 2009, as the FBI listens in
to Tim Durham's phone calls, Lukasik
505
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:52,630
contacts Fair Finance to request a
withdrawal of $10 ,000 of her money.
506
00:34:53,330 --> 00:34:55,610
I had wanted to take some money out.
507
00:34:56,429 --> 00:35:00,510
to redo the kitchen, because it really
needed it. And lots of things in the
508
00:35:00,510 --> 00:35:04,790
house. And the lady said, oh, it'll take
a few weeks. I said, that's fine. Well,
509
00:35:05,050 --> 00:35:06,310
it never happened.
510
00:35:07,210 --> 00:35:13,570
On November 24, 2009, more than 20 FBI
agents arrive at Monument Circle in
511
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:18,190
downtown Indianapolis to execute a
search warrant at the headquarters of
512
00:35:18,190 --> 00:35:20,450
Durham's Obsidian Enterprises.
513
00:35:20,850 --> 00:35:22,470
All the TV stations...
514
00:35:23,319 --> 00:35:27,420
Broadcasting live from the circle, it
couldn't have been a bigger statement by
515
00:35:27,420 --> 00:35:28,420
the FBI.
516
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:35,160
As fair finance investors are shut out,
confusion quickly gives way to despair.
517
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,520
And this lady over on the curb was
crying.
518
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,000
And I walked over to her and I said,
what's the matter?
519
00:35:43,220 --> 00:35:44,780
I said, you're cold, it was snowing.
520
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,120
I said, you want to get warm in my car?
She said, no, no. She said, I'm all
521
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,180
right, I have my car. She said, but I
don't have no money no more.
522
00:35:53,740 --> 00:36:00,140
On March 16, 2011, Tim Durham, Fair
Finances Chairman Jim Cochran,
523
00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:06,120
and CFO Rick Snow are indicted on
multiple counts, including conspiracy to
524
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,260
commit fraud, wire fraud, and securities
fraud.
525
00:36:09,660 --> 00:36:14,520
All three go to trial, which begins at
the Federal Building in downtown
526
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,420
Indianapolis in June 2012.
527
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:19,500
I'm anxious to get on with it.
528
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:25,070
In his defense, Durham says the phone
taps captured him at the worst period of
529
00:36:25,070 --> 00:36:29,330
his life, trying to keep his companies
afloat in the middle of a historic
530
00:36:29,330 --> 00:36:30,490
financial crisis.
531
00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,610
Special Agent Hallidon says that's no
excuse.
532
00:36:35,770 --> 00:36:36,830
Fair Finance was broke.
533
00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:40,150
He was running a Ponzi scheme in the
traditional sense.
534
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:45,030
If he didn't have new investors coming
in the door with cash in hand, it would
535
00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:46,930
not be possible for him to pay his
bills.
536
00:36:47,470 --> 00:36:48,910
That's the traditional Ponzi.
537
00:36:50,350 --> 00:36:56,090
The heart of the case is the $144
million in loans Fair Finance made to
538
00:36:56,090 --> 00:36:59,490
Durham, his friends, family, and related
entities.
539
00:37:00,850 --> 00:37:06,490
Though these loans had never been
repaid, Durham told investors they were
540
00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:07,730
of Fair Finance.
541
00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:13,830
I wasn't sure about all of this until I
heard those phone calls, and that's when
542
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:16,930
I thought not only was this a Ponzi
scheme, but he knew it.
543
00:37:19,850 --> 00:37:22,710
I'm sure if this didn't go through,
we're going to be sued like hell. Is
544
00:37:22,710 --> 00:37:23,710
way we can go to jail here?
545
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:25,230
No.
546
00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:27,510
I mean, would somebody ever try?
547
00:37:27,770 --> 00:37:29,230
Real estate loans?
548
00:37:29,550 --> 00:37:30,570
Huh? No.
549
00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:32,230
No. Okay.
550
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:35,590
You can't go to jail for taking real
estate loans.
551
00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:42,770
Durham's lavish spending also proves to
be damning evidence at trial.
552
00:37:43,390 --> 00:37:48,730
In the fall of 2009, as Durham withholds
payments to investors like Bob Lukasik,
553
00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:51,230
He gets an e -mail from his jeweler.
554
00:37:51,810 --> 00:37:55,170
He has bought his girlfriend, Erica
Taylor, a diamond bracelet.
555
00:37:55,670 --> 00:38:01,310
The e -mail reads, Thank you very much
for your purchase of the Beaudry City
556
00:38:01,310 --> 00:38:02,310
Lights bracelet.
557
00:38:02,490 --> 00:38:05,050
I think it looks gorgeous on Erica's
wrist.
558
00:38:05,370 --> 00:38:11,930
The retail was $30 ,635, and your
special price is $22
559
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:13,610
,950.
560
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:21,400
I feel sad that his greed was so much
more important than anybody else's
561
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:28,660
On June 20, 2012, Durham, Cochran, and
Snow are found guilty on multiple
562
00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:32,020
counts, including wire fraud and
securities fraud.
563
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:38,520
At the sentencing hearing, victims
explain how the loss has affected their
564
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,680
lives. Some elderly retirees say they
can no longer afford eyeglasses or
565
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,680
medicine.
566
00:38:45,470 --> 00:38:50,610
Barb Lukasik eventually gets a modest
kitchen upgrade thanks to donations from
567
00:38:50,610 --> 00:38:52,870
friends, family, and even a few
strangers.
568
00:38:53,270 --> 00:38:55,750
But her future will never be secure.
569
00:38:57,170 --> 00:39:02,390
I will have to watch children until God
calls me home because I only get $102
570
00:39:02,390 --> 00:39:03,650
Social Security.
571
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:08,390
And so I have to be able, that wouldn't
pay one of my utility bills.
572
00:39:09,410 --> 00:39:13,770
Jane Kalina and Donna Emmel speak for
their father, Herman Nussbaum.
573
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:18,880
who lost $170 ,000 and has since passed
away.
574
00:39:19,940 --> 00:39:25,840
Jane wrote this letter and said to Mr.
Durham, you might think that you're the
575
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,200
richest man on earth or whatever, but
you're not. My dad is one of the richest
576
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:30,200
men on earth.
577
00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:31,640
He has his integrity.
578
00:39:32,140 --> 00:39:33,320
He has his family.
579
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:38,280
He has his values, his morals. He has,
he has, he's just a man of integrity.
580
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:46,180
Judge Jane Magnus Stinson sentences Rick
Snow to 10 years in prison, James
581
00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:52,740
Cochran to 25 years, and she sentences
Tim Durham to 50 years in prison.
582
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,300
As she watches him walk out of the
courtroom, Jane Kalina wishes she could
583
00:39:58,300 --> 00:39:59,400
one more thing.
584
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:06,880
He was shuffling his feet in his prison
garb, being shackled, and I just would
585
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000
like to ask him, was it worth it?
586
00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:11,610
Where you are now, would you do it
again?
587
00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:19,750
By 2014, the mansion that was once the
scene of decadent parties is in
588
00:40:19,750 --> 00:40:25,450
disrepair. When realtor Greg Cooper
showed the property to a client,
589
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:26,630
were living inside.
590
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:32,300
I suppose the classic irony of a place
like this is that for the parties that
591
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:36,820
were held here and all of the off -the
-Richter scale level of debauchery that
592
00:40:36,820 --> 00:40:40,780
went on, it's kind of a humble contrast
now to see the house in the condition
593
00:40:40,780 --> 00:40:46,000
that it's in. The house finally sold for
just over $2 million, pennies on the
594
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,920
dollars that Durham spent here.
595
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:55,520
And the girlfriend was gone, and his
house was gone. His 40 cars were
596
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:56,520
repossessed.
597
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,280
So it was all gone.
598
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,960
And apparently it had a very flimsy
foundation the entire time he owned this
599
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:09,100
stuff. A bankruptcy trustee in Cleveland
is retained to sell off assets and try
600
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:10,400
to reimburse investors.
601
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,020
But they don't find much real value.
602
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,300
His mansion has more debt than it is
worth.
603
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:22,040
But what about the car collection that
was Durham's pride and joy?
604
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:24,940
Cars, though, are making me money.
605
00:41:25,260 --> 00:41:27,740
So I have a justification for keeping
the cars.
606
00:41:28,700 --> 00:41:30,260
If only that were true.
607
00:41:30,660 --> 00:41:36,240
The fact is, the Bugatti is leased, and
few of the cars are owned outright.
608
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:43,880
They all had various debt on them, so it
sort of furthered his aura of being the
609
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:49,100
really wealthy guy, when in reality,
when those were claimed and sold by the
610
00:41:49,100 --> 00:41:52,520
bankruptcy trustee, they got almost
nothing because they had to pay off all
611
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,520
loans.
612
00:41:53,850 --> 00:41:59,870
the man who specialized in leveraged
buyouts, leveraged everything, and
613
00:41:59,870 --> 00:42:05,890
his way from a quintessential small town
to the Hollywood Hills to prison.
614
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:13,770
It's so odd to think of someone who has
lived this kind of lifestyle, who is now
615
00:42:13,770 --> 00:42:18,530
in a cell in a federal prison, probably
for the rest of his life. I mean, it's
616
00:42:18,530 --> 00:42:22,810
from the highest high to the lowest low
in just a period of a couple of years.
617
00:42:25,930 --> 00:42:28,050
It's a classic American story in some
ways.
618
00:42:28,930 --> 00:42:31,270
Glad that you guys could come by and
take a look around.
619
00:42:31,530 --> 00:42:33,550
So thanks again, and we'll see you
later.
620
00:42:34,510 --> 00:42:39,230
Next, the perfect setting, the perfect
motive, a less than perfect crime.
621
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:44,050
He shot the lawyer and murdered his
wife. This was a murder for money.
622
00:42:44,330 --> 00:42:48,290
American Greed, scams, scoundrels, and
suckers, next on CNBC.
623
00:42:49,650 --> 00:42:53,490
Restaurant Startup, all new Tuesdays at
10, CNBC.
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