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In this episode of American Greed, New
Age evangelist Lydia Kladek says she can
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awaken minds to untold riches.
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But her promise of big returns buying up
auto loans isn't just mystical, it's
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unlawful. When these investors are
really putting money in Lydia's pocket.
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And even an army sniper can't defend
himself against this greedy guru.
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The threat is right there, wears a
little dress.
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wears a big smile, and that's the
thread.
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And later, South Carolina silver dealer
Ron Wilson is sounding the alarm on the
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U .S. economy.
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Ron predicted essentially the end of the
world.
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Nearly 8 million investors hear his call
and fork over $90 million to invest in
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the red -hot metals market.
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But when it comes time to collect, they
find that they're the ones who've been
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burned.
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This guy was a slick snake oil salesman,
except there was never even snake oil.
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That's what makes it worse.
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It's the spring of 2010 in St.
Augustine, Florida.
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And Staff Sergeant Kevin Crowell wants
his money.
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The Army sniper invested $50 ,000 with
Lydia Kladek, a local businesswoman
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who says she makes big profits buying
auto loans.
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But Kladek isn't making good on her
promises.
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When Staff Sergeant Crowell shows up at
her office to demand his money in
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person, he gets a cold welcome.
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One gentleman after another came from
the accounting side of the house, and
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stood there with their arms crossed, and
their most, I guess they were trying to
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be opposing -looking.
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If the accountants expect to intimidate
Crowell, they're talking to the wrong
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war veteran.
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I've spent my entire life in the
military dealing with tough guys all
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world, so it's like this was fun.
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As the exchange intensifies, the
receptionist threatens to call the
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And I said, that's a brilliant idea.
Call the police.
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Please call law enforcement and tell
them you won't give me my money.
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And then the tough guy with his arms
crossed said in a very non -threatening
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manner, no, no, no, that's not
necessary.
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We don't need to involve the
authorities.
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And I kind of wondered, I was like, why
wouldn't you?
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Why wouldn't you? If you are worried
about me, why wouldn't you involve the
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authorities?
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By the time Staff Sergeant Crowell walks
into Kladek's office, she owes
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$113 million to investors throughout the
United States. Her specialty auto
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finance company has a collection of
savvy clients, including seasoned
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mutual fund managers, and
multimillionaires.
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But the cornerstone of her business is
laid in living rooms.
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like this one just outside of St.
Augustine, Florida, where Jane Edney and
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women's social group have biweekly
gatherings.
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It's just the wives, no husbands
involved, and we sit around and have
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and hors d 'oeuvres. That's it, every
other week.
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In 2000, the group welcomes a new
resident to the club, Lydia Kladek.
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I remember very well the first day I
ever saw her. She was brought to our
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because she had moved into the
community.
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She was a very quiet, unassuming lady,
tiny, very small, and she
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just looked helpless.
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So I went over and talked to her. She
was charming, just charming.
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As Kladek integrates into the group, she
eventually mentions that she owns a
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company named Lydia Kladek Incorporated.
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that has a way of turning car loans into
gold.
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She says that her company uses investor
money to buy high -interest -rate auto
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loans from car lots and then collects
the payments on those loans.
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According to Orlando attorney John Kane,
it's an established business model in
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the finance industry.
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There are businesses that do it very
successfully.
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In fact, there are some major players
who, you know, some large banks who do
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very successfully. If you manage it
right, I think that 10 % return is not
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unreasonable.
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Kladek says she can do better.
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She says that by purchasing the loans
and then servicing them, the 29 %
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rates being paid by the car buyers will
pay enough for her to earn a hefty
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profit.
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As well as pass along a 15 to 20 percent
interest rate to the investor.
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A lot of money put into that.
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With the women's social group, she
couldn't have found a more receptive
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audience.
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Here were 30 ladies, most of us either
retired
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widows in many cases, all of us fairly
affluent, able to invest
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money. And she made friends, and it was
just like hitting the jackpot.
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Edney makes a comfortable living leasing
out a commercial property in Louisiana.
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But in the late summer of 2005, a
natural disaster leads to a
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financial one.
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When Katrina hit, it kind of wiped out
some of my income because I had a
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building in New Orleans, and it filled
up with mud. And I knew it was going to
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take a long time to get anything back
from that building.
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Edney takes $100 ,000 from her savings
and brings it to Lydia Kladek's humble
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offices in this converted house in St.
Augustine, where Kladek promises her...
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a 15 % annual return.
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Her desk was two saw horses with a
wooden door on the top, an unfinished
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door, covered with papers and a big cat
sleeping on one end of it.
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Now, you've got to trust somebody that
has that kind of a situation.
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Before long, more than a dozen women in
the neighborhood are invested with Lydia
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Kladek Incorporated.
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Every one of them is happy.
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I got a beautiful check every month.
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Didn't even think about it not being a
perfectly honest, safe, secure thing.
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Because when you knew Lydia, you trusted
her. It was just that simple.
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Lee Caesar agrees.
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She is not a member of the neighborhood
women's group, but also lives in St.
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Augustine, where she suffers from
emphysema.
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She meets Kladek in the late 90s at a
local New Age church.
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Caesar says that Kladek embodies the
church's message, that harmony with the
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universe is the key to reaching each
person's highest potential.
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I never heard a bad word said about her.
I never heard her say a bad word about
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anyone. If something negative would
happen, she would always turn it into a
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positive.
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Caesar invests all her savings in
Kladek's business as she begins to
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her retirement.
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Then, in 2000, Kladek asks Caesar to
start working at her company.
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For Caesar, it's as if the stars had
aligned.
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I thought she was the best thing that
ever happened in my life.
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She was a good friend.
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She was making me all kinds of money.
She was very good to me.
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I loved her dearly.
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Soon after Caesar joins Lydia Claddock
Incorporated, the company explodes in
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size. By 2007, Claddock has raised $58
million from investors.
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As word spreads outside of her church
and women's groups to the movers and
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shakers of St. Augustine, who in turn
have connections all over the country,
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moves her office from a cluster of
converted houses to a new two -story
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building.
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It was an exquisitely done office, and
that made us feel good. When she made
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money, we made money.
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Unfortunately, that's not just positive
thinking, the way Klydeck runs her
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business. It's wishful thinking.
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In order to sustain the investment
scheme, she would have to pay back 15 to
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percent a month.
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Although those car loans are earning
interest at 29%, remember, it's not
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into account the cost of repossession,
the cost of employees, the cost of
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management.
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So it wasn't reasonable to expect a
return of 15 % to 18%, and certainly not
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guaranteed return of 15 % to 18%. There
are very few guarantees in life, and
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there are even fewer guarantees in
investments.
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But Kladek believes in turning negatives
into positives.
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even if it means engaging in fraud to do
it.
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When American Greed returns, Kladek's
lifestyle seems to affirm her philosophy
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and even gets an Army sniper to let his
guard down.
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In the military, we say you got the
warming fuzzy, you felt good with it,
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that's how it happened with me.
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Hello, my name is Lydia Kladek, and I am
the proud, happy, and grateful founder
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of Lydia Kladek, Incorporated.
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In St. Augustine, Florida, new age guru
Lydia Kladek is running a seemingly
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successful auto financing company that
she built from the ground up. By the end
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of 2009, she has more than 2 ,000
investors with over $100 million
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And as this video she makes for her
employees shows, she credits her success
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the same philosophy in which she lives
her life.
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I wanted to have a company based on
principles and values of how we know
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can be and what life can be like to work
together.
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Unfortunately, Kladek's positive
thinking isn't matched by her positive
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It takes a lot of work to make sure that
you know where those cars are at all
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times, make sure your borrower doesn't
disappear, make sure the car doesn't get
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destroyed. All of those things need to
be covered, and I think that's where the
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business portion fell short.
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Falling short is an understatement.
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According to John Kane, who comes to
represent the investors of Lydia Kladek
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Incorporated, by the end of 2009,
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Kladek is running a $90 million deficit.
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Nevertheless, as long as she can
convince new investors to have faith in
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she can use their money to pay the
interest on previous investments.
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Listen with an open heart and see where
your heart takes you.
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Welcome to Lydia Kladek.
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It even makes Kladek roll her eyes.
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With her scam running at full force,
bringing in tens of millions of dollars
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year, she's siphoning off a big chunk
all for herself.
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It just seemed like there was a funnel
above her house with money flowing into
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it to fill the house with things.
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Heather Soffeld begins working for
Kladek as her personal assistant in
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As Kladek moves into a new 5 ,700
-square -foot mansion in a gated
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called Sea Colony.
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It was beautiful. Arts and crafts style,
custom stained glass, chandelier hung
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in the front hall.
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The lap pool flowed into a regular
-sized pool. The highest -end things
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I've ever seen.
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Magnificent. Absolutely magnificent.
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And I commended her. I said, how
wonderful.
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I was looking around in awe, and I said,
how did you do this? And she just said,
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one foot in front of the other.
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That was her answer.
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We have within ourselves the ability to
create the life that we desire.
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It did kind of have a weird vibe because
it did make you wonder, how are these
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people this happy? They're at work. That
was a bad day right there.
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Kevin Kroll is the recipient of the
Purple Heart.
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and two combat infantry badges as a
staff sergeant for the U .S. Army.
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After serving a year as a sniper in
Iraq, where he was hit by roadside bombs
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five separate occasions, he now lives in
St. Augustine, where he suffers from
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post -traumatic stress disorder and
struggles to deal with everyday civilian
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life.
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It's the hardest thing ever. The
transition is unbelievable because
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from In an environment where you have to
survive, you have to trust your buddies
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to coming back to not so much focus on
how I'm going to get through today and
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hopefully I'll see the sun come up
tomorrow, but how am I going to provide
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my wife? How am I going to make ends
meet?
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He thinks those questions may be
answered when his wife hears about a
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investment opportunity called Lydia
Kladek Incorporated.
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We met with Lydia.
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We stressed to her how hard the money
that we had, you know, how we saved it
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from being in the desert, saved it from
my deployment.
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She confided in us that, you know, she
understood and she would take good care
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of us.
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He takes $30 ,000 he saved risking his
life in the deserts of the Middle East
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and hands it over to Lydia Claddock.
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With it, he hopes he can now have the
security he believes he's earned.
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The way I looked at it was, I fought for
my life for that money, for that future
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of a life that we could sleep well at
night knowing we had money in the bank.
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For two years, Kroll and his wife get
their interest payments every month,
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on time.
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But in December of 2009,
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Their payment comes in late.
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The following month, it's even worse.
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January rolled in, no interest payment.
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And that's when I started questioning
things, and I got nervous.
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And I called the company up again, and
they said it'll be there as soon as it
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can.
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It never happened.
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When American Greed returns,
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Lydia Kladek's business isn't the only
thing disintegrating. It appears her
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mental state is as well.
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She started to act very strange. She was
doing weird things.
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She was chanting.
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By
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the
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end of 2009, Lydia Kladek's fraud is
reaching its end.
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She's been promising and delivering 15 %
interest on thousands of people's
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investments over the past decade.
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But she can't keep up with the payments
anymore.
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It appears the pressure is taking its
toll.
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She didn't act stressed.
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What she did was act strange.
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She had meetings that I was told five
minutes of business and the rest were...
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If you asked her a question, she would
just fold her arms and smile at you
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without any words.
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If that was an act, I don't know. Or
maybe she was going off the deep end. I
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don't know.
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Yeah, that's right. She couldn't get out
of it. She was too far in debt.
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Jane Edney has $100 ,000 invested with
Kladek for nearly four years.
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In the fall of 2009, she and several
women from their group don't get the
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monthly interest payment they've become
accustomed to.
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Kladek comes to the group's next meeting
and urges patience.
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Give her a chance. She'll build it back
up. See, we believed.
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Boy, did she do a job on us. She was
just sitting there so timid, and
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that was her way.
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You just felt sorry for her.
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You didn't know she was stealing you
blind when she was being so sweet.
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Eventually, enough people don't receive
their payments, and they get law
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enforcement involved.
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In the spring of 2010, the FBI raids
Kladex offices, and most everyone
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in St. Augustine knows about it.
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I stood out there, and I cheered them
on. I cheered them on.
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I think I even offered them if they
needed coffee, I'd go get it for them so
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they could stay up late and work all
night.
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But not all observers are so excited to
see the FBI.
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Her supporters are out there, her people
that go to her church.
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They're all defending her, saying she's
a wonderful person and we're evil, we're
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mean for saying bad things about her.
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I don't personally have any issue.
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I don't care if she's spiritual, if
she's...
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hung out with the Dalai Lama. I mean,
that's all fine, but I just wanted my
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money back.
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Despite her supporters' objections, on
November 19, 2010, Kladek is indicted
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on 14 counts related to the fraud.
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The case goes to trial, and on January
26, 2012, a jury finds her
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guilty on all 14 counts.
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As she prepares for sentencing, Her
faith in positive thinking crosses over
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the delusional.
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She actually puts together a very
detailed presentation as to how she can
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the investors from jail.
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It was a plan where she was taking her
$14 ,000 a year social security income
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and she was able to convert that somehow
into $80 million over the next 10
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years.
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Seems kind of incredible to me, but that
was her plan.
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The judge doesn't buy it, and neither do
the members of the women's social
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group, who travel to Jacksonville to
observe the sentencing.
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When Kladek addresses the court, they
see a side of her they've never seen
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before.
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They had to pull the microphone down.
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And she came out with the most horrible
scream I have ever heard in my life.
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I didn't do it. I didn't take the money.
You're liars.
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I had never heard her raise her voice.
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So we were in shock when she said that.
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So that was the true Lydia Kladek.
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The judge sentences Kladek to 30 years
in prison.
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If she plans to earn back the millions
of dollars she owes to the investors
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she is let out, she won't be able to
start until she is 98 years old.
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Jane Etney eventually gets an insurance
payment for her commercial property that
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was destroyed in Hurricane Katrina and
has enough money to live comfortably.
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Many in her group are not as fortunate,
but they have managed to keep together.
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It brought me closer to the ladies.
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You know, I felt as though I'm not by
myself. At first, I didn't want to talk
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about it.
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Lee Caesar didn't just lose her
investment.
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Her entire world is turned upside down.
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I was a friend.
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I was an investor. I was an employee.
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And now I'm a victim.
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Caesar continued to invest her savings
with Kladek through the years she worked
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for her, even refinancing her house to
invest the equity with Kladek.
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Now the money's gone, and her home is in
foreclosure.
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At 78 years old and in poor health, she
needs to try to find work to pay back
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her debts.
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I'm on poverty -level Social Security
with food stamps.
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So that's where I am.
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And she's living in a cell.
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Sure, she doesn't have freedom, but
she's got everything taken care of.
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got three hearts in a cart, they say.
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People like me are out here scrounging
around trying to make ends meet. It
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doesn't make any sense.
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So now I'm angry.
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I'm angry that a friend did this to me.
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Kladek isn't a friend to Kevin Crow.
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But she is a U .S. citizen.
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And for someone who has spent two
decades of his life defending the United
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States, the betrayal back home cuts just
as deep.
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You do come back, and you have a big
handshake, and someone says thanks for
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service, and then they take your money.
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And it's amazing how that works in our
country.
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If a threat is right there, wears a
little dress, wears a big smile, and
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the threat.
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Next on American Greed, nearly 800
investors believe they're using their
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to buy silver.
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But in reality, Ronnie Gene Wilson's
alchemy has turned metal into thin air.
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They were buying nothing. They were
buying a fiction.
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In February 2012,
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Ronnie Gene Wilson sits in the offices
of the South Carolina Securities
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Division.
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The 64 -year -old silver dealer has been
called before investigators after a
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woman complains that Wilson has been
doctoring the investment statements of
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92 -year -old father.
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The daughter sent us the documents. We
reviewed these documents.
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And we found that there were some
significant red flags that were popping
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South Carolina Attorney General Alan
Wilson heads the State Securities
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and is no relation to Ron Wilson.
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In fact, he's a thorn in Ron Wilson's
side.
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His Securities Division begins digging
into Ron Wilson's business and finds...
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that Wilson has hundreds of investors
with supposedly tens of millions of
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dollars invested in silver.
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The Securities Division calls Wilson
into their offices to ask him where all
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this silver is.
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During the course of that interview, he
basically tells us that he has between
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500 and 600 ,000 ounces of silver
basically stored in the depository in
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Delaware.
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Ron Wilson's made a career of placating
people's concerns with his word of
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honor.
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But this time, he may have pushed his
conceit too far.
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I don't think he expected us to check.
Because at this point, he's so good at
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getting people to believe him. He
doesn't think that people are even
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the truth of what he's telling.
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They've served this area extremely
effectively.
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County Councilman.
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South Carolina school board member.
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Silver dealer.
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Anderson County citizens know Ronnie
Gene Wilson as many things.
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But more than anything, they know him as
a straight shooter.
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The one thing I really thought about Ron
was that he was a very true, honest
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person. He was very gruff.
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When he said things, it was just like,
here I am, this is who I am, take me or
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leave me. And I respected that about
him.
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Candy Kern Fuller is an attorney in
Anderson County, South Carolina, who
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Ron Wilson from his time as an elected
official on the Anderson County Council.
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At first glance, they may not seem
likely allies.
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She's a liberal.
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He's an arch -conservative.
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He was a member of the John Birch
Society, national commander of the Sons
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Confederate Veterans.
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Greetings and welcome you to Anderson.
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And different things of that nature. He
was very, very politically conservative.
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But Kern Fuller is willing to put aside
philosophical differences.
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to attend a 2009 seminar Wilson is
giving for his precious metals company,
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Atlantic Bullion and Coin.
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She hears a pitch that Assistant U .S.
Attorney Bill Watkins says is a
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of his business.
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Ron predicted essentially the end of the
world. The dollar was going to crash.
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It would be worthless.
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And that hard money, silver and gold,
was where people should put their money.
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Kern Fuller doesn't buy into the doom
and gloom.
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But silver doesn't have politics.
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And the prices are rising.
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Kern Fuller agrees to invest $10 ,000
with Wilson.
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What appealed to me was what silver and
gold were actually doing.
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I mean, I can pick up a newspaper. I can
get on the Internet. And so at that
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time, I see it. I see it go up.
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Another person dazzled by Silver's rise
is Bill Strewing. He's worked in law
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enforcement for more than 30 years.
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And in 1996, he starts working for the
Anderson County government as chief of
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public safety.
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He passes through Councilman Ron
Wilson's offices enough in his official
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that eventually his curiosity in
Wilson's metals business is piqued.
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I mentioned one time to him, I said, I'm
interested in the silver thing that you
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have. I said, I understand there's some
people that have it I've talked to, and
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it's quite lucrative. And he said, oh,
yeah.
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He said, I'll tell you what. He said,
I'll have my secretary send you an
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invitation to one of our seminars.
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At the seminar, he sees a number of well
-respected citizens of Anderson County
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who have money invested with Ron Wilson.
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So I thought, well, you know, if these
lawyers, and doctors and notable people
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in the community are going for this. I'm
going to get in. I'll get it also.
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In 2006, Strewing is ready to retire
from his job with Anderson County and
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Wilson $10 ,000 that he receives from
unused vacation and sick pay.
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Like approximately 800 other investors
in Wilson's company, Strewing believes
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that Wilson is buying precious metals
with his money and then trading them in
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the market.
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Quarterly, I got reports of he bought
and sold, bought and sold. And, of
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he bought when the market was low, and
then he sold when the market was high.
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And I never took any money out of it. I
was going to leave it in there until it
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got to a sizable amount, and then that
would have been for my eventually
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retirement.
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The only problem is that the statements
Strewing and other investors are getting
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are complete fabrications.
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No, it was all fictitious. The only real
numbers on the statement was the amount
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of money the investor put in.
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That number was correct. Then all the
trade, that was false.
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There was no silver.
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This guy was a slick snake oil salesman,
except there was never any snake oil.
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That's what makes it worse. There was
nothing there.
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According to South Carolina Attorney
General Alan Wilson, Ronnie Gene Wilson
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walks into a perfect scenario for
running a precious metal scam.
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The best fraudulent schemes always have
elements of truth to them that are
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verifiable.
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Silver was going up. The economy was
going down. He leveraged that.
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It gives investors little reason to
doubt Wilson's ability to show positive
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returns.
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I saw what the silver was bringing.
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I saw what the paper was saying.
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I got my quarterly reports.
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They didn't seem outlandish or anything
like that.
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I see it go up, and I'm saying, wow, I
bought this at $10 an ounce, and it's
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already now $15 an ounce.
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And then it went up to $20, and then it
went up to $30.
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and then it went up to 40, just like he
said it would. If he'd have taken our
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money, and he would have bought silver
with it, and he would have been
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legitimate about it and everything like
that, we would be well off right now,
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okay?
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Not well off enough for Ron Wilson's
taste.
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He wants it all.
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When American Greed returns, Ron Wilson
steals money by telling people the end
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of days is near.
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Is it just part of the image?
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Or has he managed to even convince
himself?
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He had stacked to the ceiling canned
goods, tents, firearms, ammunition,
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everything that one would expect to see
if you were preparing for the government
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to collapse.
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In Anderson County, South Carolina,
Ronnie Gene Wilson tells investors that
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.S. currency is about to collapse.
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But in reality, it appears there's no
bigger fan of the almighty dollar than
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Wilson.
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Between 2009 and 2012, he takes in more
than $65 million from
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investors throughout the country
intending to invest in precious metals.
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But Wilson never actually buys bullion.
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There was no silver, and he would take
that money.
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and pay off older investors to keep them
in the scheme, to keep them, you know,
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basically hooked in.
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And it was just layers and layers of
fraud, each class of victim that came
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And the money that is left over goes
mainly to himself.
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He spent freely, and oftentimes he just
paid too much money. It wasn't his
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money. He didn't care.
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Beatty Ashmore is an area attorney who
becomes the trustee of Wilson's Holdings
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on behalf of the victims.
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One of the more remarkable assets that
Ashmore will liquidate is this farm 30
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miles from Greenville.
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The farm is a unique place.
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It is designed to be totally self
-sustainable.
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The farm is completely organic.
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Wilson even sells the farm's meats,
cheeses, and produce from his own
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store.
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It's a progressive attitude, but don't
believe that the hardliner has gone
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Wilson may have other motivations for a
self -sustainable refuge.
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When the day came when the government
collapses, he wanted to be totally self
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-sufficient. He's got $400 ,000 worth of
solar panels alone, so he could be off
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the... the power grid.
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There's more evidence of Wilson's
doomsday preparations in his offices.
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In this room, he had stacked to the
ceiling canned goods, tents,
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devices, a number of firearms,
ammunition, gunpowder, shells.
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He had everything necessary to survive
in the event that the government would
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collapse.
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Ned Chamblee isn't worried about the end
of days so much as the end of his
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working years.
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That's a drill ship there.
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He's spent 40 years working on ships
overseas, doing everything from
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equipment for oil rigs to shipping
merchandise across the Atlantic.
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By the end of 2010, he's eyeing
retirement and meets with Ron Wilson.
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Well, he was talking about how bad the
economy is in the U .S. and what the
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dollar's fixing to crash and the only
safe way of putting your money would be
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metals, in precious metals.
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And he said, it's not guaranteed, but in
the past I have been doubling people's
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money over a two -year period.
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Chamblee says he calls the Better
Business Bureau just to make sure and
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Wilson has a AA rating.
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Chamblee takes all of his money from his
401k, more than $500 ,000, and invests
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in silver.
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Into 2012, everything seems to be going
just as Wilson said it would.
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According to the statements he was
sending out, I'd already doubled my
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According to the paperwork, it was worth
over a million.
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He's a roughneck -turned -millionaire.
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It's a welcome development, and at just
the right time.
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Chamblee's company wants to send him
back to work on a rig off the coast of
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Nigeria.
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But Chamblee doesn't want to go back
overseas.
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At that time, I thought I had plenty of
money.
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So I said, well, let's go ahead and
retire.
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About two weeks after I retired, I found
out that it had all upon its skin.
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When American Greed returns...
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Wilson investors want to cash in on the
metals rush.
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But they come to discover that their
plans for a lustrous future are just
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gold.
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Once we made a call on the money, he
closed shop. And when that happened, I
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to myself, not there.
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Don't know if it's ever been there.
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By early 2011, Bill Strewing has upped
his investment in silver to $50 ,000
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with Ronnie Gene Wilson.
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Periodically, I looked in the paper, and
I knew what I had, how many, when I
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looked at the quarterly report and saw
what it was and done a little figuring,
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and it figured out pretty darn good.
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Hundreds of Wilson's investors feel
exactly the same way.
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It keeps the fraud rolling right along.
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This scheme went over 26 states,
incorporated over 1 ,000 victims, and
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million in money was defrauded out of
these victims. And in 15 years, not one
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single complaint was filed by any one of
the thousands of people that were
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invested in this enterprise.
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He was good.
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But in the fall of 2011, this con man's
15 -year streak comes to an end when
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an investor suspects that Ron Wilson may
be falsifying documents.
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Mr. Wilson, it appears, overreached a
bit with his scheme and was changing
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statements to reflect that folks had not
bought as much silver as earlier
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statements had shown.
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On February 1, 2012, Wilson is summoned
to an interview with the South Carolina
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Securities Division in Columbia to
explain the discrepancies.
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He blames them on a simple error.
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and the Securities Division lets him
walk out a free man.
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But it appears that Wilson feels the
walls are closing in around him.
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He knew that the end was near or
suspected it could be near.
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The U .S. Secret Service not only
protects the president, but investigates
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financial crimes as well.
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When the South Carolina Securities
Division asked them to assist in the
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investigation, Special Agent Jason
Durkin sees a desperate Ron Wilson put
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fraud into overdrive.
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He came and had a seminar presented to
the class. Bring all your money. If you
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have a house paid off, take out another
mortgage on that house. Take a second
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mortgage. If you have IRAs, dump all
your IRAs in and bring all your money to
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invest.
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The Secret Service continues its
investigation and calculates that if
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business is legit, he should have an
extraordinary 8 million ounces of silver
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under his control.
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To figure that out in more something you
can grasp, if you take 8 million
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ounces, that gives you 500 ,000 pounds.
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So if you want to equate that to tons...
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So that gives you 250 tons.
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00:40:04,410 --> 00:40:11,350
That's 125 Ford Explorers. That's a
large amount of silver to have under
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one control.
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Durgin has his doubts. He subpoenas
Wilson's depository and finds that
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short by all 8 million ounces.
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The depository is empty.
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00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,560
When the U .S. Attorney's Office
confronts Wilson with the records, they
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remarkably submissive Ron Wilson.
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It's hard to bluff at that point when
you've got no silver.
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00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:43,620
It was over.
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00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,340
On July 27, 2012, Wilson pleads guilty
to mail fraud.
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00:40:52,420 --> 00:40:57,680
Four months later, Ned Chamblee is in
the courtroom for Wilson's sentencing.
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00:40:59,450 --> 00:41:04,410
Chamblee has gone from a life of hard
labor to a retiree worth a million
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00:41:04,410 --> 00:41:08,370
dollars. But as he sits in court, it's
all gone.
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00:41:09,350 --> 00:41:13,990
He lets Ron Wilson know how he feels
about it when he's allowed to say a few
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words before the judge.
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00:41:17,010 --> 00:41:20,370
I told him that I didn't think he should
serve a day in prison. I thought he
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should be executed.
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00:41:22,970 --> 00:41:27,350
The judge sentences Wilson to 19 and a
half years in prison.
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which the Secret Service says is more
than Wilson was expecting.
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00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:38,040
He felt that he was only going to get
sentenced to eight years in jail, so he
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00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,260
actually was already making plans of,
well, when I get out, I want to buy this
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00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:42,260
type of motorcycle.
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00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,260
I'm going to travel here. I'm going to
be a free spirit, which strikes me as
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00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:47,260
interesting.
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00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,620
Where is he going to get the funds to
have such a great retirement?
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Even from jail, Ron Wilson may be
putting one over on his investors.
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00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,520
We are missing money. We're missing
cash. We're missing millions of dollars
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00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,840
worth of cash that are not on the books
and records. Unless Ron Wilson or
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00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,580
somebody else tells me where it is,
we'll never know.
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00:42:08,780 --> 00:42:12,440
I mean, you're dealing with crooks, and
they're hiding money from you.
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00:42:12,940 --> 00:42:16,740
And I am convinced that Ron Wilson is
one of those people.
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00:42:19,340 --> 00:42:23,800
And the federal government believes he
may not be the only crook.
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00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,540
Lankboy and Corwin was more beyond Ron
Wilson himself. He actually had
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employees. He had a staff that he worked
with, and there's still quite a few
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individuals, both within the company and
outside the company, that are still
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actively being investigated.
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Special Agent Durkin wants it to be
perfectly clear.
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Anyone that is involved in this fraud
should expect a visit from the Secret
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Service.
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