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In this episode of American Greed,
Trevor Cook claims to have a
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new way to trade foreign currency with
guaranteed profit.
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Investments were safe and protected and
in segregated accounts.
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I am here to give you solutions to this
massive fiscal pollution that everyone
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in this country is experiencing without
exception.
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And more than 700 investors roll over
their life savings.
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This is very impressive.
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He's invested overseas, so therefore it
isn't taxed. Oh my goodness, this is too
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good to be true, isn't it? But no one
knows that Cook and his partners are
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conmen by day who turn their historic
mansion into a den of debauchery by
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He enjoyed all the wealth he could
steal.
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Until the feds ask a straight -laced
banker to go undercover.
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Can he help catch the thieves?
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Somehow they had merged into some
conglomerate of fraud and scumbaggery.
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In downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, the
Van Dusen Mansion was built in the late
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1800s by a baron of the grain industry.
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Made of hand -carved quartzite, it
appears solid, steady, and built for the
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ages.
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Exactly the image its newest owner wants
to project.
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He is one of the nation's leading money
managers. Please welcome Trevor Cook.
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Trevor Cook acts like a modern -day
magnet.
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A top trader in the high -risk, high
-reward world of foreign currency
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The story begins with Cook playing the
role of local boy made good.
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But there were warning signs early on.
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Trevor Cook was an average student, went
to the University of Minnesota,
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graduated with a degree in economics,
who was like a bull in a china shop. He
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had an alcohol problem. He ran sports
numbers well in college.
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After college, looking to make big money
fast, Cook goes to work for a
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Minneapolis gold coin dealership.
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He was a largely unsuccessful coin
dealer and sort of bounced around jobs
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was not particularly successful in any
way.
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Until he hit upon this currency exchange
program in the early 2000s.
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Then his career takes a big jump.
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Within five years, Cook goes from small
-time coin dealer to big -shot currency
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trader.
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Cook partners with former co -workers
from the coin dealership. And by 2008,
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they set up shop at the Van Dusen
Mansion.
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They call themselves the Oxford Group.
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And they play up their new headquarters
to the hilt. They would hold seminars at
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the mansion to try and entice people to
invest in this foreign currency exchange
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program that Trevor would pitch.
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Dozens of potential investors are bussed
in each week through brokers and
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partner firms. Under his Universal
Brokerage Service, or UBS, Cook claims
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be a worldwide leader in the highly
complex game of foreign currency
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If you get out a Webster's Dictionary
and you look up arbitrage in the
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dictionary, it means a transaction that
can extract profits
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with no risk from an inefficiency in the
marketplace.
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The strategy is complex and confusing.
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Cook claims to have invested in a
revolutionary new software program that
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tiny percentages from international
banks converting foreign currencies
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thousands of times a day.
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The key to how we execute arbitrage is
largely technology based.
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Cook says that the principle invested
with his program is guaranteed safe and
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encourages attendees to go all in.
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rolling over their IRAs, 401ks, and
other retirement accounts.
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We also always keep liquidity.
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It's another big thing I recommend is
stay away from investments that are not
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liquid. You know, what good is your
money if you can't get at it?
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They made these representations
consistently in terms of principal
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double -digit returns on their
investments.
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dealing with sophisticated banks and
countries, and that their investments
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safe and protected and that they were
always liquid so that the investor could
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obtain them 24 hours a day, seven days a
week.
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Cook comes off as a down -to -earth
Minnesotan who happens to be a financial
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whiz. His disfiguring scar is said to be
the result of a high school hockey
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injury.
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And it doesn't hurt his ability to close
deals.
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He and his partners are able to pull in
nearly $200 million in capital for more
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than 700 investors.
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Cook's partners in the Oxford Group
include licensed stockbroker Bo Beckman
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a former professional wrestler turned
coin dealer Jerry Duran. They each have
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role to play at the investment seminars.
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And they would have Bo come up as sort
of this super successful financial
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services guy, and he would lay out his
pitch for his handling their money.
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So I started at Merrill. I ran money
there. I ran money at Ernest from
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I ran money at Wells Fargo.
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And I'm a senior portfolio manager for
the Oxford for a large cap core.
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I believe the market is here and exists
to do this. Take as much from as many
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for as long as it can.
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Jerry Durand would come up and he would
introduce some of the younger sales
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staff that would then go mingle among
the people who were having dinner and
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drinks and whatnot, and then invite them
to invest in the program.
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You're going to learn how you can create
wealth and survive your
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wealth. But the Oxford Group also has
another marketing strategy, one that has
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the potential to reach millions of
people.
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Talk radio.
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Welcome. America to the broadcast Follow
the Money with Pat Kiley.
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Pat Kiley is a partner whose radio show
airs on more than 200 stations around
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the country and is a funnel for bringing
in new investor capital into Trevor
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Cook's program.
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In a suburb of Atlanta, Georgia, 55
-year -old Curtis Harvey is hearing good
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things about the show from a friend.
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He said, you know, I've been listening
to this guy, Pat Kiley.
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I started listening, and that's what
encouraged me to do that.
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And he said, I feel pretty comfortable.
The returns look very good up to this
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point from what I can tell.
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Harvey is intrigued but doesn't want to
make a hasty move.
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He's been a protective coating salesman
for 30 years.
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He works hard, makes a good living, and
contributes to his IRA.
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But he'd love to get better returns.
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I am here. to give you solutions to this
massive fiscal pollution that everyone
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in this country is experiencing without
exception.
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I listened to Pat probably for six,
eight weeks, and a lot of what Pat
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up was safety, security, and integrity
and
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honesty and things like that, and you
need to secure your money.
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For 22 years, we have worked with
various countries, governments, and
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currencies, and the global bank interest
rates.
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He said that while the principal is
segregated, you'd make like an 8 to 10
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percent swing.
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He said some months it might bump to 12
and some it might drop to 7. But he said
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it's a consistent 8 to 10 range.
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So I invested.
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Harvey decides to roll over $120 ,000
from his IRA and over the next year adds
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another $80 ,000.
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After getting his initial statements, he
believes he's made a sound decision.
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It looked like there was growth taking
place.
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There were some parts they had where it
showed a linear growth, an upward curve.
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It would be incremental, small amounts,
not big. I didn't want to get rich
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quick. I just wanted some steady growth.
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was secure and safe.
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Next on American Greed, investors
believe that their money, like the Van
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mansion, is being cared for by
respectable businessmen, if they only
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Prostitutes regularly visited, as did
strippers.
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Drug use, drinking, prostitution,
anything happened there.
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In 2008, Trevor Cook appears to be a
master of the universe.
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From his grand historic mansion in
downtown Minneapolis, he claims to run a
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billion hedge fund, raking in guaranteed
profits from a foreign currency trading
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program.
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More than 700 people from around the
country have invested, including senior
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citizen Betty Wager.
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who learns of the program through Cook's
partner, Pat Kiley, and his talk radio
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show, Follow the Money.
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You couldn't help but just want to
listen, and he was on for a whole hour
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Sunday morning from 7 to 8 o 'clock, and
I'd lay there in bed before I had to
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get up and go to church, and I'd listen
to him.
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I'm the senior partner of an
international investment banking firm.
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And we are not connected in any way to
stocks, bonds, and all of the rest.
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He would talk about how awful it was
that the government taxed every penny we
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made. And I thought, wow, and I've got
an investment with a company right now.
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And, you know, when I get the printout
in the mail.
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Anything that I've invested has a minus
sign in front of it. And I'm going, I've
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got to call them and see what's going on
because I really don't understand
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investing money.
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Wager has been retired from the phone
company Quest since 1992.
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She lives on a pension and Social
Security income.
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She bought her house with an inheritance
left to her by her parents.
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The rest, about $50 ,000.
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She is invested with a brokerage firm.
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But listening to Pat Kiley, she begins
to rethink where she placed her nest
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He sounded very convincing, let me tell
you.
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No more taxing your money. It's invested
overseas, so therefore it isn't
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taxed. After listening for several
months, Betty and her daughter Betsy
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to meet with Kiley in person.
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He struts in there just like a
celebrity, you know, and he sits down at
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desk. And we talked for over an hour.
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The longer you sit there with him, the
better it sounds.
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What can I say?
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On the way home, I said to Betsy, you
know, I feel good about this investment
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and that it wouldn't be taxed and that
when I needed some.
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maybe for a new furnace or an air
conditioner for my home, I would have
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money. And I thought, this is right
where I have to be with this investment.
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And that's what I did.
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Betty invests her $50 ,000 in
inheritance.
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And for a time, she believed she made a
great choice.
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After all, she has promised there is no
way she could lose it.
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Every two weeks, I'd call and ask, how
is my money doing?
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And he'd say, just fine.
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Just fine.
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You need money today?
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No, I don't need money today. But I just
thought I'd see and he'd say, no, just
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remember what I said.
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Have a good day.
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Wager, like hundreds of others, simply
trusts that the investment program is
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legitimate. But while they may appear to
be highly successful,
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Trevor Cook and his cohorts are not
actually making any profits.
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They are spending hard -earned investor
capital on whatever they like.
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Cook spends $3 million on the mansion
itself, using it as a showpiece by day.
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And after hours, a shameful din of
debauchery that Betty Waker's life
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should have had no part in funding.
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Well, the mansion at night was an
entirely different place.
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There were big parties there. Thousands
of dollars' worth of booze were consumed
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there. Trevor Cook would pass out in his
chair, wet himself.
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He was falling down drunk.
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Drug use, drinking, prostitution,
anything happened there.
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One night, Trevor, in order to impress a
stripper that he had picked up, bet
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$500 ,000 on a football game and lost.
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Not the kind of place where you would
want your mother or grandmother to go to
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invest their life savings.
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Former employees report that not all of
the partners are partaking in the
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bacchanal. But they are all spending
their so -called profits, with Trevor
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leading the way.
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He bought the mansion to make it look
like they were this huge successful
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operation. But he was also spending
money trying to make money because he
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he was losing so much money. He was a
gambler.
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And this investment scheme was pretty
much a gamble. He was not making trades
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these guys were promising.
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It wasn't safe. It wasn't hedged. He was
buying oil, commodities.
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Things that the investors had no idea
what was going on. I think Mr. Cook also
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enjoyed a luxurious lifestyle while he
was performing this fraud and enjoyed
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the wealth he could steal.
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Cook spends his money on high -end items
that suggest wealth and class.
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Fabergé eggs, Rolex watches, and luxury
sports cars.
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But the real Trevor Cook is neither
wealthy nor classy, and he does a poor
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of pretending to be.
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He had a Jägermeister tap and a couple
of beer taps and there was a lot of
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bottles all over the place. In his
private bathroom, he had all these
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from gangster movies, Al Pacino and the
like.
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He was a real fan of Scarface, you know,
and the gangster life.
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In line with his wannabe gangster
persona, Trevor Cook decides to take a
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in the casino business and shells out
$13 million for a piece of property in
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Central America.
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He got into a Panama casino deal. I
think it was all in hopes of making it
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and being able to, you know, actually
get some money since he was losing so
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in this trading.
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Cook isn't the only one spending on
whatever he sees fit.
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His partner, Bo Beckman, the licensed
financial advisor of the outfit, prefers
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to spend his millions on real estate and
other amenities.
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He had very lavish homes in a variety of
places.
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He had cars. He had country clubs. He
had a variety of different accoutrements
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that goes with actual success.
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In reality, this wasn't based on his own
success, but based on the sales to
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investors to turn over money, which was
then converted for his own use.
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In 2008, Beckman even attempts to
purchase a stake in the NHL hockey team,
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Minnesota Wild.
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Attempting to buy the NHL team was an
effort to provide legitimacy to him and
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indicate that he was a real business
person, when in fact the entire bid was
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premised on a fraud.
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Pat Kiley is the only one that appears
to live frugally. But in reality, he's
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spending millions of dollars to produce
and expand his radio show, which in turn
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brings in two -thirds of the investors.
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Next on American Green.
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Trevor Cook tries to recruit a local
investment banker into his scheme, but
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picks the wrong guy.
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This was not only fraud, but it was
populated by guys who had been involved
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fraud for years.
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Somehow they had merged into some
conglomerate of fraud and scumbaggery.
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In late 2008, Trevor Cook's Oxford Group
is hemorrhaging money.
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Cook is losing tens of millions of
dollars in illegal gambling and risky
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commodities trades, all while telling
his investors their principle is
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protected.
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Trevor Cook and the others really sold
him on how safe this investment was, and
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they got a lot of investors to pretty
much give all of their savings.
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Things get decidedly worse when Cook
decides to partner with a shady
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international firm.
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They had invested in a business called
Crown Forex over in Switzerland.
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In 2008, they became patently aware that
it was highly illiquid and that they
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were going to have difficulty getting
their money out. They had already
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significant losses through their trading
program that lost millions and tens of
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millions of dollars.
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Cook is in need of a huge infusion of
capital to keep his operation running.
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And that's where Ty Schlobom comes in.
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In 2009, Schlobom is managing director
of a Minneapolis investment bank.
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His clients are large institutional
investors.
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One day, he gets a cold call from Trevor
Cook.
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Somehow, Trevor and his team became
aware of me and the services I provided.
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So they contacted me to see if I could.
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be a conduit to institutional capital.
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Within a couple of days, Slobom is
headed to the Van Dusen mansion in
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Minneapolis.
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It was a very ornate, old, historic
mansion. In Trevor's office, which was
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the very top floor, it was a large
office filled with trading screens and
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computers and such. And Trevor began to
opine on what his strategy was, which
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was in the fixed income slash currency
arbitrage game.
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My first impression was that I had never
heard of this before, but he was
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offering a guaranteed risk -free rate of
return of 12%. That is a number that is
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very attractive. So I obviously
entertained the thought of what the heck
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doing. As Schlobom carefully listens,
Trevor Cook lays out the details of his
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investment program.
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The strategy that Trevor said he
employed was doing something called a
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carry trade.
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A carry trade is basically borrowing
securities in a low -interest -rate
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and using those funds to buy currency in
a higher -earning -interest -rate
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country. Shalobo knows the carry trade
as one of the riskiest financial
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out there.
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They describe the carry trade as picking
up pennies in front of a bulldozer.
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But Trevor's strategy, or often the
story he would tell, was that he would
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able to fully hedge out the risk through
his relationships with Middle Eastern
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banks. Cook says he is able to get
interest -free loans from Middle Eastern
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banks that are compliant with Sharia
law, which states that banks cannot
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interest. I understand Sharia
compliance, whereas they see charging
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interest as usury and not allowed within
the compliance of their religion or
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ideology.
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For years, this has been Trevor Cook's
pitch. And the unsophisticated investors
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he targets have eaten it up.
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perhaps without fully understanding the
plan.
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But now Cook has met his match.
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Ty Schlobom understands exactly what
Cook is saying. He just doesn't believe
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My initial thoughts were that this makes
no sense. My experience having done
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business in the Middle East is that in
lieu of taking interest payments, they
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usually take an equity ownership in the
firm, or they find some way to monetize
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their lack of interest that they're
having. I certainly asked, well, why
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they offer you?
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these hundreds of millions, conceivably
dollars, of use of their capital for no
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revenue. And that's where the story
became a little elaborate and highly
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inconsistent.
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Schlobom leaves the mansion uncertain
about what he has stumbled upon and
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decides to do some more research into
Oxford's head honcho, Trevor Cook.
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He said he's managing $4 billion, which
at the time in 2009 would have put him
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in, you know, top 25 largest hedge funds
in the world. And I never had heard of
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him once.
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But he was registered on the NFA.
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So when I looked him at the NFA, I could
see that he had spent most of his time
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as a coin dealer.
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Schlobom doesn't stop there.
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He digs deeper into Oxford's supposed
investment strategy and the backgrounds
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the principal partners Bo Beckman, Jerry
Durand, and Pat Kiley.
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I made some calls into colleagues that
were quite the experts in foreign
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exchange and foreign exchange arbitrage,
and I could not find anyone that had
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even heard of this so -called trade.
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I looked into the infrastructure and the
backgrounds of all the individuals
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there, and they were checkered, to say
the least. I saw many individuals with
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regulatory marks in their background.
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Empirically, the returns were not only
improbable, but impossible.
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Very quickly, Ty Schlobom begins to
believe the program is a fraud.
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And so this banker, husband and father
of two small children, faces a life
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-changing decision.
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Does he simply walk away, say no thank
you, and leave the Oxford Group for
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someone else to deal with?
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Or does he do something?
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My first thought was, God, this is so
bad. Don't walk away, run.
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And make sure, you know, you never...
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find something as slimy as that again.
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But Slobom's deciding factor comes down
to the investors, a room full of whom he
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sees at a seminar during his very first
visit to the mansion.
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My observation quite quickly was that
these were financially unsophisticated
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individuals, what appeared to be elderly
people without a lot of financial
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resources. And my observation was it was
70 -plus people with a nest egg under
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six figures that were investing.
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When American greed returns, the
straight -laced banker goes undercover
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crime -stopping mission.
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I'm jettisoned from being an investment
management financial service employee,
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and now I'm trying to be a junior G -man
and get the smoking gun.
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In March 2009, investment banker Ty
Schlobom presents a case to Minneapolis
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Joe Dixon about
what he believes to be an outright scam
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involving the Oxford Group's foreign
currency program.
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This was 100 % without any doubt a Ponzi
scheme. I couldn't walk away and do
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nothing. He was an investment advisor
himself, and the story that was being
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to investors simply didn't make a lot of
sense.
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The group is headed by Trevor Cook, who
reached out to Schlobom as a possible
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conduit to large institutional
investors.
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Now Schlobom wants the feds to shut Cook
down.
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But before they can act, the U .S.
Attorney's Office needs to know more.
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What was important to us was to
understand what exactly was being told
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investors. Because in a fraud
investigation, at least from a criminal
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perspective, there's two components. One
is, what are investors told?
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It's going to happen with their money.
And the other thing is, what's actually
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happening with their money?
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My expectation was they were going to
give me a pat on the head and send me
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with a lollipop and say, you know, good
job. We appreciate the tip. And that was
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not the case. They asked me if I'd help.
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So very quickly, I said, I have to think
about this.
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Ultimately, Schlobom decides that he
wants to do everything he can to put
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out of business as soon as possible.
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And so the gears begin turning on a case
that takes him from the rarefied air of
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high finance to the gritty world of
criminal investigation.
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They wanted me to collect evidence, both
audio and video evidence, of what they
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were saying and what they were doing to
basically cross the T's and dot the I's
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on what was actually the fraud.
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I also tried to engender myself to
Trevor.
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and hoping that they would offer and let
down their guard and say, you want in
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on this.
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The FBI wires him up with undercover
audio and video equipment and sends him
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back to Oxford's headquarters at the Van
Dusen mansion.
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It is pretty surreal.
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I'm trying to gather information. I'm
trying to get them talking.
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I'm asking them a host of questions, and
it's all recording.
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It's exciting. It's really nervous.
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It's just a situation that you're ready
to wake up from.
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But in the back of my head, I kept
timing, so this is the right thing to
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Schlobaum spends an increasing amount of
time at the mansion and secretly
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records several investment seminars.
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I'm seeing a marketing factory in terms
of quantity of potential investors that
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they're drawing into this place. It's
high.
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And they seem to have enough swagger
that they're bringing in a high hit
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in terms of closing business.
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In this seminar video, filmed for
promotional purposes, Trevor Cook
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explain to potential investors his
foreign currency arbitrage program.
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The key to how we execute arbitrage is
largely technology -based.
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A lot of times they said that their big
secret to their success was this
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technology company which was based in
Switzerland.
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If you were to just look up and or even
Google their name, you can see that
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they're in as close to financial default
as possible because their software,
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lack thereof, was totally ineffective.
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But their success, if I can even use
that word, was they would make it so
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complicated because they would not be
consistent with their stories that
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again, they'd have to just take sort of
a leap of faith.
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While federal agencies work together to
methodically build their case,
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Ty Schlobom is spending less time at his
actual job.
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And he doesn't feel good about receiving
a salary while keeping his employer in
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the dark.
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He decides to make yet another personal
and professional sacrifice.
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choosing to resign and focus full -time
on the undercover operation.
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It's probably not the best story to come
home with to your wife that you quit
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your job and that you are undercover
informant trying to take down a Ponzi
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scheme that will have absolutely no
reward and is fraught with risk.
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But my wife was supportive and was on
the same plane in terms of doing
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something that was right.
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in a time when a lot of things were
going wrong in the financial industry.
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This is the dog and pony show. You would
have a number of inconsistent stories
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coming from them. But after four months,
Schlobom is ready to be done with his
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secret assignment.
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I'm nervous of something falling out of
my pocket or a camera head being
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exposed.
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I'm certainly wondering, what the hell
am I going to do if that does happen?
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Am I going to run? Am I going to, you
know, get killed?
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So I definitely didn't want to get
caught doing what I was doing.
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But investigators are still relying on
their man inside to provide key
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information. You have to have really
good probable cause to shut something
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that down. So it's not...
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Just one person going in and coming back
and saying, yep, it's fraudulent. Let's
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shut it down. It's not that easy.
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Next on American Greed, the feds figure
out exactly how the bad guys are
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operating. And it's the beginning of the
end for Trevor Cook.
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They said things are happening quickly
now. And on this day, can you arrange to
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make sure that Trevor Cook is at this
location?
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In 2009...
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Trevor Cook's Oxford Group is running
into trouble from all sides.
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Multiple federal agencies are
investigating them for civil and
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prosecution.
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Then, in July, a group of Ohio investors
decides they want to take several
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million dollars out of the fund. When
they can't get their money back, they
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It was a combination of the civil
lawsuit by investors starting to ask
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questions about where their money was
and how it was invested, along with the
428
00:30:10,780 --> 00:30:15,460
efforts by the Department of Justice and
the SEC and the CFTC really sort of
429
00:30:15,460 --> 00:30:20,860
caused a real bright spotlight onto this
business, which caused the collapse of
430
00:30:20,860 --> 00:30:21,819
the organization.
431
00:30:21,820 --> 00:30:24,120
The feds decide it's time to move in.
432
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:29,620
And once again, they tap their
confidential informant, Ty Schlobom, for
433
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,900
They began to tell me that things were
going to proceed quite rapidly and to
434
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:39,020
have organized or scheduled Trevor to be
in the mansion at this time on this
435
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:40,020
specific date.
436
00:30:40,220 --> 00:30:44,100
We also diagrammed the matrix of the
interior of the building as well.
437
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,960
On the day of the raid, investigators
know exactly how to get to Trevor Cook's
438
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200
office and keep him there for
questioning.
439
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040
They also collect hundreds of thousands
of documents and files.
440
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,140
including phony statements that were
regularly sent to investors.
441
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,220
The paper statements were made in
-house.
442
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:05,280
They were basically done by simple math.
443
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:10,640
If you had $100 ,000 invested and you
were promised 12%, you got your $1 ,200
444
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,540
month, added on to your account
statement, and then mailed to you.
445
00:31:16,620 --> 00:31:20,400
Investigators are tasked with tracking
down and speaking to more than 700
446
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800
investors scattered across the country.
447
00:31:23,340 --> 00:31:27,680
One of those is Betty Waker, who first
learned of the investigation from the
448
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,680
press.
449
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,320
I can't believe this.
450
00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:37,040
These guys are a bunch of crooks. I
couldn't believe this in a million
451
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:39,260
that this could happen to me.
452
00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:46,820
And yet I couldn't say, I'm so dumb,
because I'm not dumb.
453
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,660
I knew what I was doing. My eyes were
open.
454
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:57,320
But it was such a great, big, beautiful
lie that we couldn't see through.
455
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:04,100
The grandmother has no choice but to
accept her fate as a victim of fraud.
456
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,640
What do you say? What do you do? What
can you do?
457
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,940
Pray. There's nothing left.
458
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:14,300
It's gone.
459
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:18,480
The average investor lost about $200
,000.
460
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:19,680
The median...
461
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,440
was about a $100 ,000 investment, and
half of those people lost their entire
462
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,440
life savings.
463
00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:30,340
So we're not talking about big
institutions or sophisticated parties.
464
00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:36,500
talking about regular people who were
scared about the economy, were scared
465
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:39,760
about their investment options, and
really trusted people.
466
00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:46,140
1 ,100 miles away, near Atlanta,
Georgia, Kurt Harvey is happy that he
467
00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:51,680
invested. $200 ,000 of his retirement
savings in hopes of a bright future.
468
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,940
He is blissfully unaware that the walls
are closing in on the Oxford Group until
469
00:32:57,940 --> 00:33:02,460
he tries to reach them about rolling
over his wife's 401K as well.
470
00:33:02,860 --> 00:33:05,720
I left message after message, no answer.
471
00:33:06,180 --> 00:33:13,140
I started to get worried. I was
traveling at the time, and so I made a
472
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:14,140
more phone calls.
473
00:33:14,510 --> 00:33:18,990
And when I got to my hotel that night, I
tried to go on the website, and the
474
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:24,150
website was shut down already. And all
of these different blogs came up and
475
00:33:24,150 --> 00:33:29,710
reviews came up, and it was run and
hide, take your money before, don't
476
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:33,070
it's a scam, the whole thing.
477
00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:39,050
And right then is when, you know, I lost
it, just lost it.
478
00:33:39,610 --> 00:33:42,730
It's not long before Harvey confirms the
worst.
479
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,680
Much of his life savings is gone.
480
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:48,440
Panic, just sick to my stomach.
481
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,980
Definitely had to make several trips to
the restroom.
482
00:33:54,220 --> 00:33:59,380
It was just so upsetting to know that
I'd lost that much money.
483
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:05,820
And to, I think I felt, you feel
betrayed when you're duped by someone
484
00:34:05,820 --> 00:34:06,820
thought you could trust.
485
00:34:07,530 --> 00:34:12,250
While Harvey and hundreds of other
victims are left reeling, a team of
486
00:34:12,250 --> 00:34:14,909
agencies is figuring out where the money
went.
487
00:34:15,210 --> 00:34:20,250
And a federal judge assigns a receiver
to seize the assets of the Oxford Group.
488
00:34:21,090 --> 00:34:23,790
$190 million was taken in from
investors.
489
00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:29,310
Approximately $50 million of that was
returned to investors in what I call
490
00:34:29,310 --> 00:34:30,308
lulling payments.
491
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:34,929
So payments to investors that suggest to
them that there's reality here, that
492
00:34:34,929 --> 00:34:36,570
there's profits that are being made.
493
00:34:37,050 --> 00:34:40,469
and gives them comfort that their
investments are safe.
494
00:34:40,670 --> 00:34:46,710
But a lot of the money was sent to
various banks, both domestically and
495
00:34:47,290 --> 00:34:51,050
for the purpose of these currency
investments.
496
00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:55,330
The high -risk currency investments and
tens of millions of dollars were
497
00:34:55,330 --> 00:34:57,310
actually lost in these currency
investments.
498
00:34:57,930 --> 00:35:04,110
About $25 million was sent to the Swiss
company called Crown Forex and then
499
00:35:04,110 --> 00:35:05,110
disappeared.
500
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,380
So where did the money from Crown Forex
go? The Swiss government is
501
00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:10,820
investigating and has been since this
broke.
502
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,380
No one seems to be saying where that
money went.
503
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:19,180
Another $13 million went to Trevor
Cook's Panama casino deal.
504
00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:23,540
And Cook and his partners also spent
about $30 million on themselves.
505
00:35:25,820 --> 00:35:32,080
Cars, houses, all of which ultimately
was recovered by the receiver and sold
506
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:37,590
auction. The receiver is able to recoup
less than $15 million, which means
507
00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:42,890
pennies on the dollar return to the more
than 700 investors who lost a total of
508
00:35:42,890 --> 00:35:44,770
nearly $150 million.
509
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:49,990
When American Greed returns, instead of
cooperating with the receiver as he
510
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:55,370
agrees to, Trevor Cook is still lying
and trying to stash as much loot for
511
00:35:55,370 --> 00:35:56,590
himself as he can.
512
00:35:56,990 --> 00:36:00,850
They found some money hidden in a
locker. They found some money hidden in
513
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:19,300
In November 2009, accused fraud
mastermind Trevor Cook agrees to
514
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,620
turn his assets over to a court
-appointed receiver, but they find out
515
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:24,620
still lying.
516
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:30,140
Mr. Cook evaded that receivership and
defied the court order, and ultimately
517
00:36:30,140 --> 00:36:34,340
was put in jail for failing to follow
the court orders regarding his assets.
518
00:36:34,740 --> 00:36:37,960
We had received a call that the Mall of
America had...
519
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,640
found two duffel bags containing a bunch
of foreign currency and a bunch of gold
520
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,240
coins. They proceeded to put a camera on
the lockers to see who shows up to get
521
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:51,580
it. The next day, a known associate of
Trevor Cook's comes to collect the
522
00:36:51,580 --> 00:36:54,180
contents of the locker and gives Cook
up.
523
00:36:55,300 --> 00:37:00,620
Trevor Cook also fails a lie detector
test and eventually leads agents to his
524
00:37:00,620 --> 00:37:05,240
brother's home, where they find another
stash hidden in baseboards in the
525
00:37:05,240 --> 00:37:11,100
basement. $100 bills, gold and silver
coins, collectible watches and sports
526
00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:14,980
memorabilia totaling more than $400
,000.
527
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:18,080
Trevor Cook sees the writing on the
wall.
528
00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:19,780
He's got no other play.
529
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,680
So he decides to plead guilty to charges
of tax evasion and mail fraud.
530
00:37:25,180 --> 00:37:30,440
For his lack of cooperation, a federal
judge sentences Cook to the maximum, 25
531
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:35,020
years. But the judge still doesn't
believe that Cook has revealed
532
00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:38,010
Judge Rosenbaum warned Trevor.
533
00:37:38,330 --> 00:37:42,830
He said, if you have any inklings that
when you get out, you're going to go and
534
00:37:42,830 --> 00:37:49,030
find some money and live well for the
rest of your life, get over it, because
535
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:50,650
we're going to be watching you the rest
of your life.
536
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:55,990
It takes another two years for
investigators to build their cases
537
00:37:55,990 --> 00:38:01,530
Cook's partners, Bo Beckman, Jerry
Duran, and Pat Kiley.
538
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:06,920
A fourth partner, Chris Pettengill,
cooperates with prosecutors and gets a
539
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,980
reduced sentence of seven and a half
years.
540
00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:14,940
The other three go to trial and all are
found guilty on more than 10 counts of
541
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:21,000
fraud. On January 3rd, 2013, Betty
Wigert is in the federal courtroom when
542
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,480
men are sentenced for stealing her $50
,000 inheritance.
543
00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:29,780
It is the most trying experience for
just someone like me to sit there in
544
00:38:29,780 --> 00:38:32,740
room and listen to them lie.
545
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:36,900
before the judge and get on their knees
and cry.
546
00:38:37,540 --> 00:38:44,100
Bo Beckman couldn't even breathe. He was
crying so hard before the judge to go
547
00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:50,160
lenient on him and have mercy on him.
And then Jerry Duran's daughter, oh, my
548
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,520
father has always taught us to be
honest.
549
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,860
I said, oh, yeah, right.
550
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,540
Too bad he wasn't.
551
00:39:00,670 --> 00:39:03,890
And so it was quite a day, quite a day.
552
00:39:04,330 --> 00:39:10,790
The judge then sentences Bo Beckman to
30 years and Jerry Duran to 20 years.
553
00:39:11,610 --> 00:39:17,010
74 -year -old Pat Kiley's sentencing
date is delayed due to his health.
554
00:39:17,770 --> 00:39:22,410
Joe Dixon believes that the stiff
sentences represent a title shift in the
555
00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:24,470
punishment of white -collar criminals.
556
00:39:24,910 --> 00:39:29,830
I think... People are starting to
recognize the devastation that financial
557
00:39:29,830 --> 00:39:35,470
can have on people's lives. The fraud in
this case wasn't just one person. It
558
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:36,990
was hundreds of people.
559
00:39:37,190 --> 00:39:40,370
And we're talking about unsophisticated
elderly people.
560
00:39:40,590 --> 00:39:46,090
And so the fraud was really heinous in
lots of respects and deserved very
561
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:47,170
significant sentences.
562
00:39:47,690 --> 00:39:51,490
Now, Betty Wager gets by on her pension
and Social Security income.
563
00:39:51,830 --> 00:39:54,110
She has no savings and no cushion.
564
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:55,760
I watch every penny I spend.
565
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,520
Every penny. You have to.
566
00:39:59,380 --> 00:40:03,800
I just keep saying every day, Lord,
don't let my refrigerator break down.
567
00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,980
Lord, don't let me lose my furnace or
have it stop because that can be
568
00:40:10,980 --> 00:40:11,980
expensive.
569
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:16,460
Don't let my water pipes freeze because
it's zero outside.
570
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:19,480
Retirement was good for a while.
571
00:40:20,060 --> 00:40:22,380
I don't know how they live with
themselves.
572
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,580
Knowing what happened to these people,
families were broken up, homes were
573
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,740
people don't go to the doctor when they
need it. These guys had no compunction
574
00:40:31,740 --> 00:40:38,180
whatsoever about taking money from old
people who needed it and spending it on
575
00:40:38,180 --> 00:40:40,040
prostitutes and gambling.
576
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:45,360
Sixty -year -old Kurt Harvey is in
better shape than a lot of the elderly
577
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,100
investors, but he and his wife still
feel the pain of being victimized.
578
00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:53,810
I had planned to retire much sooner.
579
00:40:54,050 --> 00:40:58,490
I'm going to be working probably an
extra nine years to make up that
580
00:40:59,690 --> 00:41:05,470
And the way the market is nowadays, that
nine years might end up being work
581
00:41:05,470 --> 00:41:06,470
until you die.
582
00:41:06,750 --> 00:41:10,350
And I hope I never see them on the
public street.
583
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:12,230
Ever. Ever.
584
00:41:13,490 --> 00:41:19,270
To date, the Harveys have recouped just
$5 ,500 of their $200 ,000 loss.
585
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:26,080
There is still money unaccounted for,
about $2 .4 million, and as many rumors,
586
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:27,720
it seems, about where it might be.
587
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:32,360
The most dramatic is one that involves
Trevor Cook and the purchase of a secret
588
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,340
submarine. They were never able to
substantiate that, and he later said,
589
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,960
that was all a lie, even though he said
in an email, I just bought a sub.
590
00:41:40,570 --> 00:41:44,930
And so people wonder, you know, is that
money sunk in a sub somewhere?
591
00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:50,050
Is it someplace that Trevor can get it
when he gets out? According to the IRS,
592
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:54,670
the most plausible theory is that Cook
and his cohort simply partied the money
593
00:41:54,670 --> 00:42:00,990
away. Well, any time you take cash out
of the bank, it's pretty much gone from
594
00:42:00,990 --> 00:42:05,250
there. It's hard to track. We knew they
spent lots and lots of money having
595
00:42:05,250 --> 00:42:08,850
parties at the mansion, outside the
mansion, bringing parties.
596
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:14,980
back to the mansion. But for the most
part, out of the $190 -some million,
597
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:19,040
a small percentage of money that we
can't trace.
598
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,900
Ty Schlobom, the undercover informant
who first identified the fraud and
599
00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,460
it to the authorities, now works in
finance for U .S. Trust.
600
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:32,060
He believes there's a lesson in this
story that should resonate with other
601
00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:33,980
professionals in the industry.
602
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,220
I hope there's any takeaway to this.
It's that people within the industry
603
00:42:38,220 --> 00:42:40,720
fiduciary responsibility to the
financial services industry.
604
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:46,320
And I hope my story motivates people to
not be so passive in their role in
605
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,120
discovering and or assisting in the
closure of France.
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