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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:09,520 In this episode of American Greed, locked up in a federal prison for 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,640 fraud, Perry Griggs shouldn't be a threat anymore. 3 00:00:13,940 --> 00:00:15,600 Eight years in prison's a long time. 4 00:00:16,180 --> 00:00:18,480 I didn't think that we'd hear from him again. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,820 But this is no ordinary con man. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,120 This prisoner is prospering with a new scheme. 7 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:28,640 From inside the prison wall, he was able to convince people he was a millionaire 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:32,500 commodities trader and have them invest their money with a man in jail. 9 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,120 And before anyone is on to his scam, Griggs gets released. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,240 Perry had left in a hurry, so this became an active fugitive investigation. 11 00:00:41,820 --> 00:00:44,100 Leaving his victims with nothing. 12 00:00:44,500 --> 00:00:46,700 Our property is taken illegally. 13 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:49,040 This actually rips the soul. 14 00:01:06,910 --> 00:01:07,910 January 2010. 15 00:01:10,090 --> 00:01:16,410 FBI agent Tom Simon is just back in the office after the holidays when he begins 16 00:01:16,410 --> 00:01:19,390 fielding several calls from panicked investors. 17 00:01:20,470 --> 00:01:24,550 So my phone starts ringing at the FBI office in Honolulu from people telling 18 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:27,870 they had lost money because they had invested with someone who was sitting in 19 00:01:27,870 --> 00:01:28,870 federal prison. 20 00:01:29,070 --> 00:01:32,030 I'm on the phone. I'm like, what? Tell me that again? You invested money with a 21 00:01:32,030 --> 00:01:35,190 man and sitting in federal prison? Tell me why you thought that was a good idea. 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,120 From there the story began to unfold. 23 00:01:38,180 --> 00:01:43,320 In order to understand how 48 -year -old prisoner Perry Griggs is able to 24 00:01:43,320 --> 00:01:48,680 operate a phony commodities trading company from behind bars, one has to 25 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,600 understand how he got there in the first place. 26 00:01:53,180 --> 00:01:59,520 In 2000, Perry and Rochelle Griggs appear to be a successful couple living 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:00,520 good life. 28 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,200 With Perry making a killing in commodities trading. 29 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:12,220 At least, that's the story they tell everyone at the famed PGA West community 30 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:18,000 La Quinta, California, where the Griggs have recently moved into a high -end 31 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,000 home. 32 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,300 As soon as you walk through the front gates, you get the sense of people here 33 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:26,279 have money. 34 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Perry did his homework, and he researched that, and he knew. 35 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,280 The potential pot of gold. 36 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,680 Landscape of all the homes. 37 00:02:36,140 --> 00:02:37,140 Beautiful community. 38 00:02:37,940 --> 00:02:43,220 Former Secret Service agent John Waugh investigates Perry Griggs in the early 39 00:02:43,220 --> 00:02:44,320 2000s. 40 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:46,680 Perry was a very good golfer. 41 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,900 And people thought that this must be a country club guy. This is a guy who's 42 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:56,140 probably born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has grown up in this culture. 43 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,300 And so he was easy to be trusted. 44 00:02:59,310 --> 00:03:03,330 But the Griggs are not really the power couple they claim to be. 45 00:03:03,710 --> 00:03:06,390 And this is all deceit by design. 46 00:03:07,690 --> 00:03:13,270 Perry Griggs is really an ex -con, whose resume includes turning a flooring 47 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:17,210 company into a criminal enterprise at the age of 28. 48 00:03:17,850 --> 00:03:23,490 Perry had been convicted up in the state of Washington for a Ponzi scam, where 49 00:03:23,490 --> 00:03:27,270 he got friends and neighbors and family members of friends and neighbors 50 00:03:29,210 --> 00:03:33,490 flooring company, and he never invested any money in the flooring company. He 51 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:34,630 used it all for his personal gain. 52 00:03:35,470 --> 00:03:40,890 In 1989, Griggs is sentenced to three years in a Washington state prison. 53 00:03:41,350 --> 00:03:46,710 While there, he does not find rehabilitation, but he does find love. 54 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:52,510 Rochelle Rutledge is a young single mom who sometimes accompanies her minister 55 00:03:52,510 --> 00:03:54,450 mother on visits to the prison. 56 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:57,870 She falls for the charming inmate. 57 00:03:58,350 --> 00:04:00,610 and the two are married in 1992. 58 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:06,350 But instead of starting over as a straight -laced family man, 59 00:04:07,110 --> 00:04:12,690 Perry Griggs gets out of prison and begins teeing up his next set of victims 60 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:15,010 the PGA West golf community. 61 00:04:15,690 --> 00:04:19,329 They're very believable. They look like they're very much in love, and they've 62 00:04:19,329 --> 00:04:25,150 got this happy little family, and that he has retired young, living in a 63 00:04:25,150 --> 00:04:28,750 community. It's very believable that he must have made his money somewhere. 64 00:04:29,650 --> 00:04:34,750 Charming and gregarious, the Griggs both cultivate relationships with their 65 00:04:34,750 --> 00:04:35,750 wealthy neighbors. 66 00:04:36,130 --> 00:04:39,430 He would invite them to his home and, you know, wine them and dine them with 67 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:41,370 bottles of Cristal champagne and filet mignon. 68 00:04:42,970 --> 00:04:47,710 When Perry Griggs begins talking about an investment opportunity that is making 69 00:04:47,710 --> 00:04:50,630 him big bucks, his friends want to know more. 70 00:04:56,940 --> 00:05:02,580 Griggs claims that he has a reliable inside track on Brazilian coffee 71 00:05:02,900 --> 00:05:08,740 and that he can double and possibly even triple their money in just 60 to 90 72 00:05:08,740 --> 00:05:09,740 days. 73 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:17,300 These were neighbors, close personal friends, and even the wife was involved, 74 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:24,280 bragging about how good business was. She called him her coffee man 75 00:05:24,280 --> 00:05:29,340 and her commodities man. She was very happy and told everyone they had more 76 00:05:29,340 --> 00:05:33,020 money than they could ever use in their life, and they wanted to get other 77 00:05:33,020 --> 00:05:35,920 people involved in this great investment. 78 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,820 Word among Griggs' friends quickly spreads. 79 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:47,230 And soon, Griggs is taking in millions from more than 50 investors, promising 80 00:05:47,230 --> 00:05:49,990 he can brew them a pot of gold. 81 00:05:50,950 --> 00:05:56,030 For a while, everyone is happy, and bank statements are showing their money 82 00:05:56,030 --> 00:05:57,490 growing and growing. 83 00:05:59,210 --> 00:06:03,970 Meanwhile, Perry and Rochelle Griggs are living larger and larger. 84 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,360 spending weeks at a time vacationing at the exclusive Hotel del Coronado, 85 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:17,140 golfing almost daily, and eventually moving into a home on luxurious Coronado 86 00:06:17,140 --> 00:06:18,140 Island. 87 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:30,000 Jim Truesdale is also an avid Coronado golfer who meets Perry Griggs on the 88 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,600 links. Ended up getting paired with him here at Coronado, and we played with him 89 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:40,500 and enjoyed ourselves with him and invited him to play again and got to 90 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:42,760 played about two to three times a week. 91 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,560 He was a very sociable guy, very good -looking, nice family. 92 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,980 Truesdale and his other buddies have to schedule their tea times around work, 93 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,100 but Perry seems to be free any day, any time. 94 00:06:59,530 --> 00:07:02,370 and can be found on the course most afternoons. 95 00:07:03,910 --> 00:07:08,930 We assumed he made a lot of money and was retired here and living, and he led 96 00:07:08,930 --> 00:07:13,450 to believe that until one day we asked him, what do you do exactly? And he 97 00:07:13,530 --> 00:07:15,050 I buy and sell coffee futures. 98 00:07:16,630 --> 00:07:21,750 Truesdale's friend is intrigued by Perry's line of work and asks if he can 99 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:23,970 invest, but Perry plays coy. 100 00:07:24,630 --> 00:07:29,030 He said, I'm not taking any new customers at this time, and my buddy 101 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:32,550 Quite a salesman said, let me invest a little bit of money, will you? I've 102 00:07:32,550 --> 00:07:37,590 always heard that's been very successful for some folks, and he basically set 103 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:39,430 the hook in my buddy and reeled him in. 104 00:07:42,030 --> 00:07:48,990 Soon enough, the friend hands over $150 ,000 and can't believe his good 105 00:07:48,990 --> 00:07:49,990 fortune. 106 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,840 He was receiving statements every two or three days, and there's a way you can 107 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:59,100 look coffee bean futures up on the exchange, and he knew he was just making 108 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:00,560 quicker than he could give him money. 109 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,360 But risky commodities trading is not Truesdale's thing. 110 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:11,520 He's a builder, and he's in the middle of a big development deal. 111 00:08:12,060 --> 00:08:17,220 He mentions to Perry that he's waiting on a $500 ,000 bank loan to come 112 00:08:19,790 --> 00:08:22,930 I explained that the bank was dragging their fee. There were so many loan 113 00:08:22,930 --> 00:08:27,210 applications, and it was just taking time for me to get my money. And he 114 00:08:27,410 --> 00:08:29,750 I'll be glad to give you the money. 115 00:08:30,590 --> 00:08:33,610 I said, what kind of interest rates are you going to charge me? And he says, I 116 00:08:33,610 --> 00:08:34,770 won't charge you any interest. 117 00:08:35,030 --> 00:08:37,450 I'll just, when you get your loan, you can pay me back. 118 00:08:37,789 --> 00:08:42,309 And he gave me a check for over a quarter of a million dollars. 119 00:08:43,090 --> 00:08:47,330 According to Griggs, there is just one small holdup. 120 00:08:48,590 --> 00:08:52,790 He explained that he had just sold a bunch of coffee futures down in Brazil 121 00:08:52,790 --> 00:08:55,750 that it takes about 10 days for the check. 122 00:08:55,950 --> 00:08:59,850 He asked me if I would wait about 10 days to deposit it. 123 00:09:00,650 --> 00:09:05,450 A week later, Perry Griggs shows up at Truesdale's home. 124 00:09:05,850 --> 00:09:09,530 He came to me on a Friday afternoon real late one day and explained that he 125 00:09:09,530 --> 00:09:13,970 needed some money. He was going to Las Vegas and asked if I could run to my 126 00:09:13,970 --> 00:09:14,970 and get him some cash. 127 00:09:15,930 --> 00:09:19,010 You know, the gentleman was giving me over a quarter of a million dollars. I 128 00:09:19,010 --> 00:09:22,430 figured the least I could do was advance him some money to save him, you know, 129 00:09:22,430 --> 00:09:24,950 having to go to his bank and it be closed or something. 130 00:09:26,570 --> 00:09:29,910 Truesdale hands him $25 ,000, cash. 131 00:09:31,350 --> 00:09:38,170 A few days later, Truesdale finds out the check for $350 ,000 Perry gave him 132 00:09:38,170 --> 00:09:39,170 no good. 133 00:09:40,290 --> 00:09:41,290 He's livid. 134 00:09:41,970 --> 00:09:43,770 He races to Perry's house. 135 00:09:44,350 --> 00:09:49,890 I just said, Terry, I want my money. I said, you took my $25 ,000 and I want my 136 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:50,930 money and I want it now. 137 00:09:51,450 --> 00:09:53,190 And he said, I don't have your money. 138 00:09:53,990 --> 00:09:55,390 He would not open the door. 139 00:09:55,750 --> 00:09:59,790 All the shouting was done through the door. He was standing behind his wife 140 00:09:59,790 --> 00:10:00,790 entire time. 141 00:10:06,750 --> 00:10:12,190 Jim Truesdale is out $25 ,000 and he's the lucky one. 142 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:19,640 His friend doesn't fare so well and never sees his $150 ,000 again. 143 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:27,040 Next on American Greed, federal agents come knocking on Perry Griggs' door. 144 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,800 He was very shocked. He thought that this was all just a big 145 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:53,380 In 2001, Riverside, California, Secret Service agents are working a case on 40 146 00:10:53,380 --> 00:10:54,800 -year -old Perry Griggs. 147 00:10:55,900 --> 00:11:02,140 Griggs was targeting victims, trying to get them to buy phony coffee 148 00:11:02,140 --> 00:11:04,180 commodity futures. 149 00:11:04,980 --> 00:11:11,420 And he had somebody in Brazil that had inside information, and it looked like 150 00:11:11,420 --> 00:11:13,120 was phony, so we got involved. 151 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:21,000 In less than three years, Griggs takes in more than $4 million from friends and 152 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,920 neighbors in Southern California. 153 00:11:23,540 --> 00:11:28,440 People who think they are handing over their life savings to a trusted member 154 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:29,440 the community. 155 00:11:29,540 --> 00:11:35,300 The single largest investor is a California dentist, a neighbor of 156 00:11:35,300 --> 00:11:38,020 for more than $850 ,000. 157 00:11:38,580 --> 00:11:42,920 He has no clue about where his money is really going. 158 00:11:43,630 --> 00:11:47,590 Looking through the bank records, there was not one instance where he tried to 159 00:11:47,590 --> 00:11:48,590 invest anyone's money. 160 00:11:48,870 --> 00:11:50,550 It was all for personal use. 161 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:57,370 He was buying many things that we had to seize, diamonds, high -end jewelry, 162 00:11:57,690 --> 00:12:01,410 furniture, cars, things like that. 163 00:12:07,930 --> 00:12:09,970 In December 2001, 164 00:12:11,350 --> 00:12:16,030 Secret Service agents arrive at Perry and Rochelle Griggs' Coronado Island 165 00:12:16,030 --> 00:12:19,330 to execute a search and seizure warrant. 166 00:12:21,370 --> 00:12:26,390 We set up and knocked on the door, and Perry had opened the door. Rochelle was 167 00:12:26,390 --> 00:12:27,390 right behind him. 168 00:12:27,490 --> 00:12:29,990 We announced who we were and what we were there to do. 169 00:12:30,410 --> 00:12:34,790 He was very shocked. He had no idea that federal agents and police were going to 170 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:35,790 be raiding his house. 171 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:40,220 And we said we have a court order from a judge to search your residence, and he 172 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:42,320 insisted that this was all just a big misunderstanding. 173 00:12:43,220 --> 00:12:48,140 As agents search the home, Perry Griggs is full of bravado. 174 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:52,080 He was pretty belligerent. He didn't want to let us in, and he was going to 175 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:57,660 contact his lawyer, and he wanted all of our names and badge numbers, and was 176 00:12:57,660 --> 00:12:59,760 trying to be intimidating in that way. 177 00:13:00,980 --> 00:13:02,640 Agents are not deterred. 178 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:08,060 But after hours of meticulous searching, The house yields little in the way of 179 00:13:08,060 --> 00:13:09,060 evidence. 180 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:13,620 There is, however, one last luxury vehicle they haven't searched. 181 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Perry's Lexus SUV. 182 00:13:18,180 --> 00:13:22,140 So we asked him for the keys to his vehicle, and he said, absolutely not, 183 00:13:22,140 --> 00:13:23,320 not getting inside my vehicle. 184 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:27,640 And we told him that we had an order to search the vehicles that were on the 185 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,220 property, and that Lexus SUV is on his property, and that's what we're going to 186 00:13:31,220 --> 00:13:32,220 search. 187 00:13:32,780 --> 00:13:36,980 He reluctantly gave us the keys. Then we searched the compartment that holds the 188 00:13:36,980 --> 00:13:37,980 spare tire. 189 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:41,100 There was where we found the mother load of documents. 190 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:44,880 All of the bank statements that Perry had created in the victim's name showing 191 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,680 that they had millions of dollars in their account. 192 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:48,540 Obviously, that was not true. 193 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:52,700 Once we walked back into the house and showed him the papers, his attitude 194 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:54,060 changed 180 degrees. 195 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:57,820 Perry Griggs knows he's caught. 196 00:13:58,650 --> 00:14:02,030 and immediately starts playing the role of Mr. Nice Guy. 197 00:14:03,310 --> 00:14:05,470 Now, he wanted to come clean. 198 00:14:06,330 --> 00:14:08,310 He wanted to come clean. He wanted to confess. 199 00:14:09,010 --> 00:14:13,110 He was very, very sorry, but I think he was more sorry for getting caught than 200 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:15,430 he was for actually ruining anybody's life. 201 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:23,290 Subsequent interviews with Perry Griggs reveal a con man so good, it's scary. 202 00:14:25,510 --> 00:14:27,070 I could see myself... 203 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,200 befriending him, I could see myself trusting him. 204 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,400 Being an agent, you always lead into things with a skeptical mind. 205 00:14:34,820 --> 00:14:37,760 He tried to pour on the sincere persona. 206 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,980 And if I didn't know any better, if I was an unsuspecting person, if I wasn't 207 00:14:41,980 --> 00:14:47,080 trained and I hadn't worked cases like this in the past, I could see myself, 208 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:48,160 know, being lured in. 209 00:14:49,340 --> 00:14:54,200 Perry Griggs agrees to plead guilty to four counts of wire fraud and money 210 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:59,950 laundering. If Rochelle is not charged, he gets hit with an eight -year prison 211 00:14:59,950 --> 00:15:04,690 sentence. But Agent Waugh believes there were two people at work. 212 00:15:05,430 --> 00:15:09,390 In my mind, there's no way she could not have known what was going on. He didn't 213 00:15:09,390 --> 00:15:13,130 work. She didn't work. They spent all of their time together. 214 00:15:13,330 --> 00:15:16,230 Where else could this source of income have been coming in from? 215 00:15:21,310 --> 00:15:23,170 With Perry Griggs caught, 216 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:29,420 His victims are left financially devastated, holding on to the hope that 217 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:31,120 will get some of their money back. 218 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,320 We were able to see some items, including diamond bracelets and Rolex 219 00:15:37,580 --> 00:15:43,080 golf cart, furniture, household furnishings, but it was pennies on the 220 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:44,280 compared to what they stole. 221 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,480 When American Greed returns, with Perry Griggs shipped off to prison, agents 222 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,220 think he's finally done in. 223 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:54,930 But his biggest crime is yet to come. 224 00:15:55,270 --> 00:15:58,150 I didn't think that we'd hear from him again. I was shocked. 225 00:16:11,310 --> 00:16:13,150 In October 2003, 226 00:16:13,910 --> 00:16:18,930 Perry Griggs steps into a low -security federal prison camp on Nellis Air Force 227 00:16:18,930 --> 00:16:19,930 Base in Nevada. 228 00:16:21,630 --> 00:16:26,490 convicted of bilking more than $4 million from at least 50 victims. 229 00:16:27,550 --> 00:16:34,230 But from day one, he presents himself as someone else, someone whose only 230 00:16:34,230 --> 00:16:36,930 crime is not paying his taxes. 231 00:16:37,450 --> 00:16:41,130 Perry told the other prisoners at Nellis that he was serving time in federal 232 00:16:41,130 --> 00:16:45,470 prison for tax fraud and that he was a multimillionaire commodities trader when 233 00:16:45,470 --> 00:16:46,470 he was on the outside. 234 00:16:47,380 --> 00:16:52,200 Griggs happens to be housed in a Nevada unit with more than 100 inmates from the 235 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:57,840 Hawaiian Islands, mostly unsophisticated criminals in on drug charges. 236 00:16:58,380 --> 00:17:01,500 They weren't coming from places where they knew multimillionaire commodities 237 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:04,800 traders, so the idea of meeting someone like Perry Griggs, who was that 238 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,720 impressive, just really bowled them over. 239 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,839 He subscribed to magazines like the Rob Report for the affluent lifestyle and 240 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:16,220 Cigar Aficionado, Barron's and Forbes to make it seem as if he was a man from 241 00:17:16,220 --> 00:17:17,280 the world of high finance. 242 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,359 Griggs regales his new prison buddies with stories of a high rollers 243 00:17:25,619 --> 00:17:30,980 Perry even bribes his work camp supervisor to look the other way as his 244 00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:35,360 Rochelle smuggles in contraband food, cigars, beers. 245 00:17:36,190 --> 00:17:41,670 even cell phones and a laptop computer, all this adding to his allure. 246 00:17:42,450 --> 00:17:48,870 He then sets up a company in Rochelle's name called Aloha Trading and begins to 247 00:17:48,870 --> 00:17:51,910 convince the inmates that they can also get rich. 248 00:17:52,410 --> 00:17:55,690 From talking to the prisoners from Hawaii, Perry understood that Hawaii is 249 00:17:55,690 --> 00:17:59,150 incredibly expensive place to live. The people who live here don't have giant 250 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:00,910 stacks of money sitting in their bank accounts. 251 00:18:01,150 --> 00:18:04,730 What many of them do have, though, are houses that have been in their families 252 00:18:04,730 --> 00:18:05,730 for generations. 253 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:08,450 and many of these houses did not have a mortgage on it. 254 00:18:08,670 --> 00:18:12,550 Perry saw that as an opportunity for these people to use their homes as an 255 00:18:12,690 --> 00:18:16,850 get the cash out, so they could give it to Perry and Rochelle ostensibly to 256 00:18:16,850 --> 00:18:17,850 invest in commodities. 257 00:18:18,830 --> 00:18:24,390 With Perry stuck on the inside, Rochelle becomes the face of Aloha Trading, 258 00:18:24,730 --> 00:18:30,350 shuttling back and forth from her home in Las Vegas to Hawaii, the conduit of 259 00:18:30,350 --> 00:18:31,990 cash for Perry's scheme. 260 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:38,710 And in one year, Several inmates, their relatives, and friends take equity out 261 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:43,330 of their Hawaiian properties and hand over a total of nearly $2 million to 262 00:18:43,330 --> 00:18:49,550 Rochelle under the expectation that Perry would be investing it. The pitch 263 00:18:49,550 --> 00:18:52,770 that Perry and Rochelle would pay the mortgage for these folks back in Hawaii 264 00:18:52,770 --> 00:18:56,350 for five years, and at the conclusion of five years, they would pay off that 265 00:18:56,350 --> 00:19:00,470 mortgage and then give the victims' families $1 to $3 million cash. 266 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:06,760 It's not long before word begins to spread in the small island communities 267 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:12,460 an investment opportunity that claims to turn local people into millionaires. 268 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:26,420 Now, Haya Colton is a Honolulu housewife. 269 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:31,590 and devout Catholic who runs a rosary group that's been meeting every week for 270 00:19:31,590 --> 00:19:32,870 more than 30 years. 271 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:38,290 This prayer group has helped so many people, and I just don't want to stop 272 00:19:38,290 --> 00:19:39,290 praying. 273 00:19:39,550 --> 00:19:44,370 When friends and family in the rosary group start telling Nohea about an 274 00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:48,750 investment opportunity they are part of, she wants to know more. 275 00:19:49,550 --> 00:19:54,550 When they told me about it, doing investment, that's how the rich people 276 00:19:54,890 --> 00:20:00,850 They take money from, let's say, their house, and then they put it in 277 00:20:00,850 --> 00:20:06,850 in stock markets and all that. So it sounded good. 278 00:20:10,350 --> 00:20:16,990 Colton is soon introduced to Rochelle Griggs, the kind -hearted woman whose 279 00:20:16,990 --> 00:20:19,850 husband is supposedly an investment guru. 280 00:20:20,830 --> 00:20:23,510 She seems so... 281 00:20:24,060 --> 00:20:30,540 sincere and constantly praising God and saying, Jesus is going to take care of 282 00:20:30,540 --> 00:20:36,600 us, and it was just sweet, and she always addressed me as Auntie Nohea, 283 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,020 addressed me as that. 284 00:20:38,580 --> 00:20:41,480 So I really thought they were really good people. 285 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:47,440 Colton decides she wants in on the investment, but she and her husband have 286 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:52,580 little in the way of savings. What they do have is a piece of prime real estate. 287 00:20:53,340 --> 00:20:56,000 This is where I was born and raised. 288 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,260 This is Kuleo Valley. 289 00:20:59,860 --> 00:21:03,540 I think it's the smallest valley on this island. 290 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,920 Colton is one of 14 brothers and sisters born and raised in this valley, 20 291 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,760 minutes from Waikiki Beach on the island of Oahu. 292 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,080 Her roots here run deep and wide. 293 00:21:19,340 --> 00:21:26,040 Queen Liliuokalani gave to my grandmother property here in Kuleo, and 294 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,040 lot of family here. 295 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:33,020 There's about 150 homes that are relatives. 296 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,020 For 20 years, Nahea and her husband Dan lived elsewhere. 297 00:21:40,540 --> 00:21:44,140 But Nahea always dreamed of coming home. 298 00:21:44,460 --> 00:21:47,480 This is the home that my grandfather built. 299 00:21:48,060 --> 00:21:54,120 And it took many, many years for me to get enough money to buy 300 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:57,180 where my roots come from, Kulio 'o. 301 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,260 And I just love it. 302 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:06,280 In 1995, the Coltons paid $455 ,000 for this house on a 303 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:12,340 29 ,000 -square -foot lot, a parcel of land that had previously been in her 304 00:22:12,340 --> 00:22:14,320 family for 100 years. 305 00:22:15,370 --> 00:22:17,670 It's an old, old shack. 306 00:22:18,290 --> 00:22:20,790 And it's a teardown, but I love it. 307 00:22:21,510 --> 00:22:25,810 And I don't want to see it go. 308 00:22:27,010 --> 00:22:30,590 Today, the property is estimated to be worth more than $1 million. 309 00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:37,370 But to Nohea Colton, living on her ancestral land is priceless. 310 00:22:39,670 --> 00:22:45,370 And when Rochelle Griggs offers her a way to keep the land, fix it up, and 311 00:22:45,370 --> 00:22:52,030 a tenfold return on her investment, the 66 -year -old grandmother is excited to 312 00:22:52,030 --> 00:22:56,250 discuss the plan with her electrician husband, Dan Colton. 313 00:22:56,630 --> 00:22:57,870 I said, oh, Dan. 314 00:23:01,730 --> 00:23:06,290 I met this lady, and we're going to be able to pay off the house loan. 315 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:12,610 We'll be able to fix up the place so it's more livable and get rid of all 316 00:23:12,610 --> 00:23:13,870 termites in the house. 317 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:18,690 I said, Dan, at least then we can breathe and live life. 318 00:23:20,130 --> 00:23:23,270 I told her off the top, I said, you know, it sounds too good to be true. 319 00:23:23,570 --> 00:23:28,170 So I said, well, I said, you might be messing with our retirement. 320 00:23:30,470 --> 00:23:36,750 Nohea tells Dan that many of their friends and family have already invested 321 00:23:36,750 --> 00:23:37,750 are doing well. 322 00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:42,410 And so I went along, not 100 % willing, but... 323 00:23:43,090 --> 00:23:44,850 If it plays out, it plays out. 324 00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:47,830 A little wishing to, you know. 325 00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:55,770 The Coltons take $600 ,000 in equity out of their property and give it to 326 00:23:55,770 --> 00:23:56,770 Rochelle Griggs. 327 00:23:57,610 --> 00:24:01,570 I thought I made a wonderful decision, and I was really upbeat. 328 00:24:01,810 --> 00:24:03,770 I said, oh, boy, I'm going to be a millionaire. 329 00:24:04,090 --> 00:24:05,790 Really stupid, but I did. 330 00:24:06,350 --> 00:24:07,950 In all honesty, I did. 331 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:15,900 For just over two years, Rochelle pays Nohea's mortgage every month and assures 332 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:17,980 her that everything is going as planned. 333 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:25,100 But back in a mainland federal prison, Perry Griggs is living up his role as a 334 00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:26,100 power player. 335 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,960 With access to Rochelle's accounts, even though he has no financial background, 336 00:24:32,460 --> 00:24:35,920 Griggs actually tries his hand at trading commodities. 337 00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:39,910 and quickly loses more than $600 ,000. 338 00:24:41,130 --> 00:24:42,890 When American Greed returns, 339 00:24:43,910 --> 00:24:47,310 Perry Griggs' latest scam cuts a deep path of ruin. 340 00:24:47,590 --> 00:24:54,350 That really hurt me for him to do it to so many of my sisters and I and cousins. 341 00:24:54,910 --> 00:24:58,150 And devastates one of Hawaii's oldest families. 342 00:24:58,650 --> 00:25:02,250 And then I started to go, oh my God, what are we going to do? 343 00:25:18,730 --> 00:25:21,970 We're in Hawaii Lower Ridge, which is the most expensive neighborhood in all 344 00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:26,210 Oahu. It's got beautiful views. The houses here are all mansions by Hawaii 345 00:25:26,210 --> 00:25:30,590 standards. And the people who live here are the ultra, ultra rich of Honolulu. 346 00:25:30,990 --> 00:25:35,750 This home is where Rochelle Griggs lives during her frequent visits to Hawaii 347 00:25:35,750 --> 00:25:41,030 and where she meets with investors in her husband Perry's phony commodities 348 00:25:41,030 --> 00:25:42,350 trading company. 349 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:45,890 She rented it to create the image of someone who had extreme success. 350 00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:49,830 She took the time to lease a BMW while she was here also for the same reason. 351 00:25:51,270 --> 00:25:54,670 Rochelle was a girl next door with extremely good taste. She always had 352 00:25:54,670 --> 00:25:58,830 nice jewelry and purses and clothing. But she didn't have that ostentatious 353 00:25:58,830 --> 00:25:59,830 nature about her. 354 00:26:00,590 --> 00:26:03,490 Rochelle has her Hawaiian investors fooled. 355 00:26:03,870 --> 00:26:05,530 But she also has a problem. 356 00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:07,630 She's running out of money. 357 00:26:07,950 --> 00:26:10,430 And the scheme is on the brink of collapse. 358 00:26:11,830 --> 00:26:14,590 Rochelle has no real connection to the islands. 359 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:17,840 and limited contacts for bringing in more cash. 360 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:23,360 Perry is no help. He's sitting in a federal penitentiary, calling the shots. 361 00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:28,580 And in order to keep the deal going, he needs more investors. 362 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,980 They were running out of ideas, and then their prayers were answered in the name 363 00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:35,640 of a Hawaiian woman by the name of Kapua Keolanui. 364 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:41,940 Kapua Keolanui is a flight attendant from Hawaii whose husband is locked up 365 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:42,940 Perry Griggs. 366 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:49,810 During her frequent visits to the prison, she meets Rochelle and Perry, 367 00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:51,970 begin courting her as a business partner. 368 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:57,290 Everyone liked Kapua. She was sweet, she was a church -going woman, she was a 369 00:26:57,290 --> 00:26:58,169 family person. 370 00:26:58,170 --> 00:27:01,530 She was the type of person that you would trust and the last person in the 371 00:27:01,530 --> 00:27:04,930 you'd ever expect to get involved in a multi -million dollar Ponzi scheme. 372 00:27:05,870 --> 00:27:12,130 Kapua believes in Perry's ability to guarantee profits, and she agrees to 373 00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:13,130 with the Griggs. 374 00:27:13,580 --> 00:27:17,140 With the encouragement of Perry and Rochelle, Kapua went to her friends and 375 00:27:17,140 --> 00:27:21,220 family members in Hawaii and told them that she had been touched by Jesus 376 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:26,100 himself, who had bestowed upon her the ability to trade commodities at high 377 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:29,880 profit. What she wasn't telling them is that her business partner was not in 378 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,060 fact Jesus, but was a man sitting in federal prison for operating a Ponzi 379 00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:35,060 scheme. 380 00:27:37,260 --> 00:27:43,020 Kapua's reputation as a religious, hardworking mother is not lost on Nanife 381 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,020 Paglinawan. 382 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,660 I met her here in Honolulu several times. 383 00:27:48,060 --> 00:27:53,400 We went and had coffee, and all good. You know, she had her children, and 384 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,940 I bid again hook, line, and sinker. I did. 385 00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:03,500 We wanted to invest but didn't know how to invest. That wasn't our expertise. 386 00:28:04,510 --> 00:28:08,270 And it sounded convincing, and because there were family members that were 387 00:28:08,270 --> 00:28:12,690 involved, I had a tendency to believe it even more. 388 00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:18,870 Nani Faye and her husband live on his family's land, which has been passed 389 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:21,190 from his mother and has no mortgage. 390 00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:28,470 The house and the land that we're on, my husband was raised on, and my children 391 00:28:28,470 --> 00:28:29,970 were raised on that property. 392 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:35,830 And I was hoping to pass it on to them. 393 00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:42,790 The Paklinawans take out $600 ,000 in equity from the property and invest it 394 00:28:42,790 --> 00:28:44,210 with Kapua and Rochelle. 395 00:28:46,890 --> 00:28:51,930 For more than a year, Nanife is optimistic about her family's future. 396 00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:58,790 Kapua is paying the new mortgage, and Nanife is awaiting the million -dollar 397 00:28:58,790 --> 00:29:02,540 payout. promised to her at the end of five years. 398 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,540 I didn't need a gazillion dollars. I wasn't asking for that much, just for 399 00:29:07,540 --> 00:29:11,300 basic, especially for my grandkids that I didn't have to. 400 00:29:11,940 --> 00:29:15,900 You know, nobody wants to have them work as hard as you do. You want it to get 401 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:16,900 easier and easier. 402 00:29:17,980 --> 00:29:24,580 From investors like Nani Faye and her own friends and family, Kapua is able to 403 00:29:24,580 --> 00:29:25,820 collect more than $1 million. 404 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:31,250 most of which is going directly to Perry and Rochelle Griggs. 405 00:29:31,830 --> 00:29:35,230 Periodically, Perry and Rochelle would wire transfer money to Kapua so she 406 00:29:35,230 --> 00:29:38,510 continue to make the mortgage payments she had promised to her own investors. 407 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:42,510 Now, Kapua did take a bit of the money and put it in her pocket, but the lion's 408 00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:46,350 share of the money she thought she was investing with Perry Griggs' commodities 409 00:29:46,350 --> 00:29:47,350 trading abilities. 410 00:29:48,210 --> 00:29:52,990 With Kapua as a partner, the Griggs are once again flush with cash. 411 00:29:53,790 --> 00:29:56,770 But only Rochelle is living a life of luxury. 412 00:29:57,150 --> 00:30:01,510 Poor Perry can't enjoy any of the spoils from inside prison. 413 00:30:02,350 --> 00:30:07,830 So when it's time for a routine transfer by Greyhound bus from one low -security 414 00:30:07,830 --> 00:30:13,850 prison facility to another, Perry and Rochelle see a chance to live it up. 415 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,400 So the prison van dropped Perry off at the bus station. When the coast was 416 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,560 clear, Rochelle arrived and took Perry in the rental car to an airstrip where 417 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,280 there was a rented Learjet waiting. 418 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:28,940 The couple pops the bubbly on board and takes off on a whirlwind escape. 419 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:34,240 They spend the weekend partying in Las Vegas. 420 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:41,460 And then the jet drops Perry off at his final destination with no one the wiser. 421 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,860 And when the Bureau of Prisons arrived at the bus stop to pick up Perry, they 422 00:30:45,860 --> 00:30:49,360 had no idea that he had just spent a weekend having fun in Las Vegas and 423 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:50,640 around the country in a Learjet. 424 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:56,820 At the new prison in Lompoc, California, Perry sets about making it as 425 00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:58,860 comfortable as possible for himself. 426 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:03,340 So Perry and Rochelle once again decide to bribe Perry's work crew boss. They 427 00:31:03,340 --> 00:31:06,460 actually made a $5 ,000 down payment to get the guy a new truck. 428 00:31:07,180 --> 00:31:10,760 This provided Perry with an opportunity to, again, have a cell phone, a 429 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,620 computer, food, beer, cigars while inside prison walls. 430 00:31:14,940 --> 00:31:20,380 And since he can't bear to be separated from Rochelle, Perry works her way 431 00:31:20,380 --> 00:31:21,640 around that as well. 432 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,700 Perry wasn't going to let incarceration even get in the way of his sex life. He 433 00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:29,840 bribed somebody to actually take him off prison grounds to a motel where he and 434 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,900 Rochelle could enjoy each other's company for a while. 435 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,520 Next on American Greed. 436 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,980 With his Ponzi scheme going strong from behind bars, Perry Griggs is about to 437 00:31:39,980 --> 00:31:44,260 get released before his victims realize they've been had. 438 00:31:44,860 --> 00:31:47,580 I spent the entire year trying to piece together this fraud. 439 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,360 Meanwhile, the mystery remained, where the heck are Perry and Rochelle Griggs? 440 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,020 For more information on Perry Griggs' life behind bars, go to AmericanGreed 441 00:31:56,020 --> 00:32:00,800 .CNBC .com and follow us on Twitter at AmericanGreedTV. 442 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:02,200 We'll be right back. 443 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:17,700 In September 2009, Perry Griggs is released from federal prison, and he and 444 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:23,120 wife Rochelle move to a high -end home in Las Vegas, all funded by the 445 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,420 multimillion -dollar Ponzi scheme he's been orchestrating from behind bars. 446 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:31,300 The problem is, though, at this point, new investors were not coming in the 447 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,780 door, and Perry and Rochelle were living the good life and running out of money. 448 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:41,520 Nani Faye Paglinawan has $600 ,000 in equity from her property invested with 449 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,980 Griggs and their partner, Kapua Keola Nui. 450 00:32:45,340 --> 00:32:47,900 And she wants to know where the money is. 451 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,000 In the beginning, there was always a fast response. 452 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,280 And then it just got longer and longer. 453 00:32:54,700 --> 00:33:01,520 They just started fading out and stopped answering my emails or my phone calls. 454 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,800 And then I started to hear from my sister and other people, did you hear 455 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,920 did you hear that? 456 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,660 For a while, Kapua and Perry Griggs were able to make those monthly payments to 457 00:33:14,660 --> 00:33:15,399 their victims. 458 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,260 At some point, though, when there's no new victims coming in the door, every 459 00:33:19,260 --> 00:33:22,120 Ponzi scheme is going to collapse, and that's what happened with this case. 460 00:33:26,180 --> 00:33:29,540 Word of trouble spreads quickly through the ranks of investors. 461 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:36,220 many of whom are family members, including Nanipe's younger sister, Nohea 462 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:41,040 Colton. She says, something is wrong here, Nohea. She's cheating us. 463 00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:44,660 The house note isn't getting paid. 464 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Then we all got wind of it, that, you know, there's something wrong. 465 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:56,360 I bet he's lying, and then we all started to, and then I started to go, 466 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,300 God, what are we going to do? 467 00:33:59,530 --> 00:34:03,210 So we have these furious investors on our hands who are falling into 468 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:06,530 status on their mortgages because they weren't getting paid by Perry, Rochelle, 469 00:34:06,590 --> 00:34:09,909 and Kapua. They began calling the FBI and looking for help. 470 00:34:10,710 --> 00:34:16,190 Without a way to pay back their victims, many of whom are ex -cons, Perry and 471 00:34:16,190 --> 00:34:18,010 Rochelle make a run for it. 472 00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:24,310 But their Hawaiian partner, Kapua, has nowhere to go but to the feds. 473 00:34:24,570 --> 00:34:28,170 I got a call from Kapua Kiolanui who wanted to come in and tell me that she 474 00:34:28,170 --> 00:34:31,730 fallen under the spell of a man named Perry Griggs and in turn had done some 475 00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:32,850 very bad things herself. 476 00:34:34,530 --> 00:34:40,170 Kapua agrees to work with the FBI, helping to build a case against the 477 00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:45,130 and perhaps shift some of the burden from her own shoulders. 478 00:34:45,949 --> 00:34:49,590 Kapua's investors were mostly her friends and family members. A lot of 479 00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:52,230 senior citizens who had a lack of financial sophistication. 480 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:56,469 The idea of Kapua stealing money from these people was just unthinkable to 481 00:35:01,850 --> 00:35:07,710 For 11 months, FBI agent Tom Simon builds a white -collar crime case 482 00:35:07,710 --> 00:35:08,710 Griggs. 483 00:35:08,830 --> 00:35:13,330 Only when he has their indictment in hand does he ramp up the search effort. 484 00:35:14,010 --> 00:35:17,590 The FBI had arranged to have billboards showing the pictures of Perry and 485 00:35:17,590 --> 00:35:21,450 Rochelle Griggs with Wanted by the FBI on them throughout the highways in the 486 00:35:21,450 --> 00:35:22,450 United States. 487 00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:26,120 So in the fall of 2010, my phone was ringing off the hook with well -meaning 488 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,180 people who swore they saw Perry and Rochelle driving the other way down the 489 00:35:29,180 --> 00:35:30,180 highway. 490 00:35:30,900 --> 00:35:33,660 But lead after lead ends up nowhere. 491 00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:40,800 Until December 2010, when a tip comes in, placing the Griggs in Arizona 492 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,880 and providing a possible cell phone number. 493 00:35:44,660 --> 00:35:46,360 But the number doesn't work. 494 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,140 So what I did was I used what I consider to be a sophisticated investigative 495 00:35:50,140 --> 00:35:53,920 technique that I'm happy to share with you today. I googled the phone number. 496 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,580 And when I googled it, the first thing that came up was a Craigslist ad from 497 00:35:57,580 --> 00:35:58,580 Kingman, Arizona. 498 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,520 We'll paint your house for cash. 499 00:36:00,820 --> 00:36:01,820 Call this number. 500 00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:11,380 Agents eventually tracked down the location of the man who placed the ad to 501 00:36:11,380 --> 00:36:12,560 seedy rooming house. 502 00:36:13,610 --> 00:36:16,550 They believe he's really Perry Griggs. 503 00:36:17,890 --> 00:36:21,590 Once they had the name of the rooming house, the FBI agents in Kingman, 504 00:36:21,590 --> 00:36:25,510 stormed it and found Perry and Rochelle hiding there and finally placed them 505 00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:26,510 under arrest. 506 00:36:26,530 --> 00:36:28,370 When American Greed returns, 507 00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:31,430 the Griggs board a plane for Honolulu. 508 00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:34,930 But there is no luxury vacation in their plans. 509 00:36:35,330 --> 00:36:38,130 This time, it's to face up to their crimes. 510 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,960 and their victims. 511 00:36:40,340 --> 00:36:45,380 I wanted to have eye -to -eye contact, and I said what I said. A rat is a rat 512 00:36:45,380 --> 00:36:46,380 a rat. 513 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,860 In April 2011, 514 00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:08,310 Perry Griggs pleads guilty to charges of mail and wire fraud. 515 00:37:09,910 --> 00:37:14,170 Griggs declined American Greed's request for an interview, but his attorney, 516 00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:17,350 John Shum, believes that Perry's heart was in the right place. 517 00:37:17,850 --> 00:37:22,850 His intentions were to make money for himself, to prove that he could actually 518 00:37:22,850 --> 00:37:28,730 be a financial investor, to have a legitimate business, and to help the 519 00:37:28,730 --> 00:37:30,370 that he had offered to help. 520 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:35,000 He was trying to make their lives better along with making his own life better. 521 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,340 But at his sentencing hearing, the judge doesn't buy it. 522 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,940 He calls Perry Griggs a serial fraud artist and one of the most blatant 523 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:48,940 criminals he's seen in 24 years on the bench. 524 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,320 He then allows victims to address Griggs in the courtroom. 525 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,160 Now, Hayek Colton looks right at the man who stole $600 ,000. 526 00:37:59,150 --> 00:38:00,690 and possibly her home. 527 00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:06,450 I wanted to have eye -to -eye contact. And I said what I said. He was a rat, is 528 00:38:06,450 --> 00:38:10,810 a rat, is a rat. And his payment not going to be here on earth. But when he 529 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:12,350 dies, I feel sorry for him. 530 00:38:12,990 --> 00:38:17,450 That's what I said. I really feel sorry for you. And he looked at me and kept 531 00:38:17,450 --> 00:38:19,610 saying he was sorry. And I said, you're not sorry. 532 00:38:20,970 --> 00:38:23,190 And I refused to cry. 533 00:38:24,930 --> 00:38:26,970 Because I told him he wasn't worth. 534 00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:31,500 A penny worth of tears from me. 535 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:37,740 I'm a hardworking person. I've worked all my life. 536 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,400 We had our children, and we really believed him. 537 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,560 These victims felt so betrayed, and they expressed that in the courtroom at the 538 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,560 sentencing, that they had trusted Kapua, Rochelle, and Perry with their entire 539 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,740 life savings, with the homes that had been in their families for generations, 540 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,380 and they just could not believe that that trust had been violated so 541 00:38:59,860 --> 00:39:04,340 Griggs gets a seven -year prison sentence, serving time in a special 542 00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:09,680 unit in Terre Haute, Indiana, with limited supervised access to phone and 543 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,040 computer. The prison is known as Guantanamo North. 544 00:39:13,930 --> 00:39:20,530 It's one of the highest security -level federal institutions that I'm aware of. 545 00:39:20,810 --> 00:39:25,670 He's housed with a lot of terrorists and has very little contact with the 546 00:39:25,670 --> 00:39:26,670 outside world. 547 00:39:26,790 --> 00:39:31,790 For Perry Griggs, who spent years bribing and conniving his way to special 548 00:39:31,790 --> 00:39:37,430 privileges in the prison system, it is perhaps bitter irony that a man who 549 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:41,970 seemingly talk his way into anything can now talk to no one. 550 00:39:44,070 --> 00:39:50,130 Rochelle Griggs also pleads guilty to mail and wire fraud and for her part 551 00:39:50,130 --> 00:39:51,370 a four -year sentence. 552 00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:58,150 Kapua Keolanui maintains that she is also a victim of Perry Griggs. 553 00:39:59,070 --> 00:40:04,510 But since she knowingly lied to investors, she is sentenced to three 554 00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:06,590 serves her time in prison in Oahu. 555 00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:14,240 For the victims whose lives have been irreparably damaged by the Griggs' 556 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:16,960 there is little solace in justice. 557 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:22,360 Well, my trust factor is like nil, and I don't trust anybody. 558 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:29,780 During this ordeal, Nani Faye Paglinawan lost her husband of 35 years. 559 00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:33,280 She believes that Perry, Rochelle, and Kapua... 560 00:40:33,610 --> 00:40:38,310 are partially responsible for the extreme stress that may have contributed 561 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:39,310 his heart attack. 562 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:44,050 I do blame them, and I'm not going to carry their burden. 563 00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:48,970 They have to carry their own burden. I don't want to carry their burden. It's 564 00:40:48,970 --> 00:40:49,970 too heavy. 565 00:40:51,370 --> 00:40:55,410 Today, Nani Faye's home and property are in foreclosure. 566 00:40:55,910 --> 00:41:00,330 But this victim of greed prefers to focus on the things she does have. 567 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:03,520 I still have a lot to be grateful for. 568 00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:07,500 You know, I can still work, but the world is still good to me. 569 00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:11,640 You know, I get to come and see my daughter and my grandkids. 570 00:41:15,860 --> 00:41:18,020 I know that's basic. 571 00:41:18,980 --> 00:41:24,300 I'm so grateful for, you know, to be alive. 572 00:41:27,970 --> 00:41:32,910 Nani Faye's younger sister, Nohea, and her husband, Dan Colton, have managed to 573 00:41:32,910 --> 00:41:35,310 hang on to their property for now. 574 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:40,210 I don't know how we can keep it. I mean, the more I think about it, I don't know 575 00:41:40,210 --> 00:41:45,870 how, but God's will be done, period, because it's only a place. 576 00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:49,810 But I really don't want to lose this place. 577 00:41:51,130 --> 00:41:53,550 We're just surviving, my husband and I. 578 00:41:54,250 --> 00:42:00,690 Really, I feel rich, though. I got rich with my grandkids and my sisters and 579 00:42:00,690 --> 00:42:04,150 brothers and nieces and nephews, and that's all really I want. 580 00:42:07,130 --> 00:42:13,250 As far as the money, the FBI says, there are no secret accounts, no hidden 581 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:15,970 stash, nothing at all left to recover. 582 00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:20,430 The FBI was unable to seize any money in this case because by the time we 583 00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:22,450 learned about the fraud, it had all been spent. 584 00:42:24,140 --> 00:42:27,720 Several of the victims in this case ended up losing their homes, homes that 585 00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:29,040 been in their families for generations. 586 00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:31,700 This was their legacy, and it was all gone. 587 00:42:32,540 --> 00:42:36,820 For the Secret Service agent who put Perry Griggs behind bars eight years 588 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:41,920 earlier, he believes that Griggs' failure to stop his criminal activity is 589 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,280 sign that the man is unwilling to change. 590 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,460 I would never bet money against Perry. I think Perry's capable of continuing 591 00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:50,420 this on until he's no longer on the earth. 53689

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