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Home building giant Bill Erpenbeck
promises he can put you in your dream
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We looked at every model home, and then
when we found this one, of course, this
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is perfect.
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But when he diverts $34 million worth of
mortgage payments into his company's
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bank account, the dreams become
nightmares.
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When you bring it down to just its
basics, it's just pure stupidity. It's
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debt. So when hundreds of homebuyers are
left in danger of losing their homes,
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don't expect any of them to shed a tear
for Bill Erpenbeck.
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I can't imagine the fear that all of
them had. I realize that that's my
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responsibility.
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In October 2009, six FBI agents take
shovels to this country club golf course
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a plush northern Kentucky suburb.
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46 paces off the third tee, they've been
told, lies a buried treasure.
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It's about 46 paces. It's right in front
of this tree.
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FBI Special Agent Kevin Gormley has just
returned after being summoned to a
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federal prison in Coleman, Florida by
renowned home builder and convicted scam
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artist Bill Erpenbeck.
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He's hoping to get a reduction in his
prison sentence.
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Erpenbeck tells Gormley that he wants to
come clean about money he had stashed
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away in 2002 while being investigated
for a $34 million fraud.
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Bill said he wanted to be able to start
his life over once he gets out of
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prison. At that time, he was thinking of
only going to prison for a couple of
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years.
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Erpenbeck's story leads Gormley to the
Summit Hills Country Club, where Gormley
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thinks pay dirt is just moments away.
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But after five hours of digging without
success, it appears to some of Gormley's
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fellow agents that this fantastic story
is just that, a fantasy.
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I was getting a lot of harassment as
each hour passed.
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that we weren't going to find it, of
course, but I was confident we weren't
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going to leave until we found it.
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Bill Erpenbeck's promise of buried
treasure is all that's left after nearly
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decade of lies and theft.
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It's a scam that has sent seven people
to prison and taken an estimated $69
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million from homebuyers, banks, and
building contractors in Cincinnati and
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Kentucky.
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But as former golfing buddy and next
-door neighbor Glenn Fagan attests, it
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didn't start that way.
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Bill Erpenbeck's fraud begins with an
air of success.
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Bill Erpenbeck had a gift, and his gift
was to persuade you that not only
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are you going to do business with him,
but it's the best thing you've ever done
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in your life.
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The Erpenbeck family has been building
trust along with homes for decades.
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Bill's grandfather was named 1965 Home
Builder of the Year by the Home Builders
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Association of Northern Kentucky.
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And Bill's father, Tony, followed in the
same footsteps, slowly amassing his own
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reputation one house at a time.
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You would expect Tony Erpenbeck not only
to build your house, but maybe get on
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the bulldozer and grade the yard when he
was finished. He's just the most...
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Down to earth, salt of the earth guy. We
always used to joke that he's, you
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know, the millionaire that drives the,
you know, Chevette.
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But Chevettes are far too modest for the
grandson, Bill Erpenbeck. He has much
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bigger plans.
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I think he wanted to go from obscurity
to the number one home builder
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in northern Kentucky.
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Bill Erpenbeck wants to bring the
Erpenbeck name into the modern age.
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It's no longer going to be a family that
builds one house at a time. The
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Erpenbeck Company begins building entire
subdivisions and condominium projects.
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And with a great deal of success.
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By 2002, the Erpenbeck Company has built
hundreds of homes.
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And it's raking in nearly $100 million a
year.
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And as a marked contrast from his
father's frugality, Bill Erpenbeck now
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million -dollar house and a fancy car.
It presents the image that the Erpenbeck
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company is on top of the world.
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He was the third largest builder in
greater Cincinnati at the time. He came
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recommended by a lot of people in the
community, including my employer.
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Linda Harlow buys an Erpenbeck home in
October of 2000.
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and quickly befriends one of her
neighbors across the street, who happens
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an Urban Beck Company employee.
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One evening in April of 2002, however,
that neighbor wants to have a talk.
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She asked if she could come to my house
that evening and speak with me, and I
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said, well, of course you can. You come
across the street every evening to talk
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to me, and she said, no, this is more
serious.
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Harlow's friend has inside information
about shady dealings going on within the
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Erpenbeck company and feels obligated to
tell Harlow that there's a problem with
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her house.
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She proceeded to tell me that my house
had multiple mortgages on it. And I
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why would that be the case? I had
already paid for my house. I had a
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paid and my lender delivered the payment
for my house.
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When Harlow takes out a mortgage to buy
her home, she expects her mortgage
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company to ensure that a check from the
closing is delivered to Erpenbeck's
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lender. The check is intended to pay off
the entire mortgage Erpenbeck took out
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to build the home in the first place.
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Unfortunately, that's not what happens.
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Thanks to Erpenbeck's closing agent,
Michelle Marksberry.
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Michelle Marksbury at our closing asked
if she could carry the check over to the
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construction lender because it would
save one day of interest.
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It seems like a reasonable request at
the time. But looking back to that day,
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Harlow remembers something suspicious.
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It was Halloween, October 31st, 2000.
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And I recall Michelle saying that as
soon as she left the closing, she needed
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hurry home and dress her daughter.
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for trick -or -treat. And then she
caught herself and said, I mean, as soon
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go and deliver this check to the bank.
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It's a revealing slip of the tongue.
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Marks Perry has no intention of
delivering the check to the construction
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to pay off Erpenbeck's original
mortgage.
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She's putting it straight into the
Erpenbeck company checking account.
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And with Erpenbeck's mortgage still
open, it means that Harlow's house now
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two mortgages on it, hers and Bill
Erpenbeck's.
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For Harlow, the situation is appalling.
She could dutifully pay her mortgage for
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30 years and still face the threat of
Erpenbeck's lender taking her home.
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They would be able to foreclose even
though I had bought and paid for my
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and had been living there.
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But for Erpenbeck... Walking out of the
closing with a check not payable to him
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is the easy part.
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For the scam to actually pay off,
Erpenbeck needs to be able to deposit
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Harlow asks her friend the obvious
question.
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If I can't deposit a check that isn't
payable to me, why would Erpenbeck be
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to take a check away from a closing
table, payable to another bank, and
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that to their own bank account?
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And she said, the bank isn't just the
bank, the bank is people.
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Look for a reason that the people in
authority at the bank would allow that
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happen.
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For homebuyers like Linda Harlow, who
bought her home from the Erpenbeck
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in the fall of 2000, it means that
Erpenbeck's original mortgage hasn't
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paid off, and his lender still has a
lien on her home.
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And Harlow isn't alone.
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As the FBI and U .S. Attorney's Office
later find out, Erpenbeck has pulled
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scam more than 250 times over the
previous three years for $34 million.
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And homebuyers aren't the only ones left
in the dark.
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Erpenbeck manages to keep his lenders
from asking questions as well.
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And the effort included continuing to
pay interest to the construction lenders
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on the loans so that they would be less
likely to become aware that they should
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have been paid out of the closings.
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With Erpenbeck still making monthly
payments, his lenders don't know the
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properties have been sold and simply
keep the mortgages active.
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For Erpenbeck to benefit from the scam,
he needs help depositing checks not made
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out to him.
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And he knows just the place to find it.
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The evidence developed by the FBI was
that John Finnan, who was the president
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People's Bank of Northern Kentucky, and
Mark Manning, its vice president,
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colluded with Bill Erpenbeck to accept
those deposits into the Erpenbeck
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at the bank.
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Erpenbeck has held his company's bank
account at People's Bank for years, long
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enough, in fact, that his relationship
with the bankers extends beyond that of
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typical banker and client.
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One of the bankers lived on our street.
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We golfed together every Sunday. I
thought John Fennin and Bill Erpenbeck
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as good as friends as Bill and I were.
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But being in tight with Bill Erpenbeck
is playing with fire.
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In February 2001, they are confronted
with the fact that Erpenbeck's account
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their bank is overdrawn by $6 million.
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It's a surprising revelation from a
company that is one of the largest home
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builders in the region.
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Until that is, you look into Bill
Erpenbeck's lifestyle.
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As things started progressing,
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Bill's appetite for the limelight got
bigger and his appetite for the finer
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things in life got bigger.
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He had a couple motorcycles, two golf
carts, one was a Mercedes golf cart.
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The golf carts had televisions on them.
There was probably double digits in
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televisions in that home.
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He had the built -in movie theater
with...
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20 Barca loungers that were tiered up
and a racing center for those cars that
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you would race against each other.
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There wasn't much you couldn't do down
in that basement.
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And then that all led out to the pool
that, you know, honestly, at the time,
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pool was probably one of the nicest
pools I've ever seen. I mean, it had a
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I mean, people had a pool with a cave in
their backyard.
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By 2001, the money coming in can't keep
up with the money going out.
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But Urban Beck has a plan.
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As former Kentucky Post reporter Bob
Driehaus explains, Erpenbeck persuades
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two good friends, John Finnan and Mark
Menne, to have People's Bank lend him
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$6 million he's overdrawn on his
account.
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It was another great sales job. He said,
hey, look, we've got a lot of homes
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coming online.
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We're just in a cash crunch at the
moment, and I just need you to cover me
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these millions of dollars in overdrafts.
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Fennin and many sneak around the board
of directors at People's Bank to give
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Erpenbeck the money.
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But in no time, they find themselves
sliding down a slippery slope.
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Assistant U .S. Attorney E .J. Walburn
later prosecutes Fennin and many for
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their participation in the fraud.
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I think that probably they panic more
and more.
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We're into him six million. What do we
do? The only way we're ever going to get
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out of this hole is to get him more
money.
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It's how $6 million problems turn into
$34 million frauds, and it grows from
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there.
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Fennin and many reach out to other
Kentucky banks and illegally mislead
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into lending Erpenbeck another $29
million.
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They were representing that the
Erpenbeck company was healthy when, in
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was a bottomless pit.
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Then there's the most destructive act.
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Their bank allows Erpenbeck to take
nearly 200 checks that aren't made out
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him. And instead of using them to pay
off his construction mortgages, he
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deposits them into his own bank account,
leaving hundreds of homebuyers in the
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same situation as Linda Harlow, facing
the threat of losing their homes.
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John and Mark are both honorable men.
And I still believe that to this day, I
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think what happened is that you have
John and Mark.
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trying to make this thing go.
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And maybe it'll turn itself around and
everybody will be made whole and we'll
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move forward. But the company was
spiraling out of control.
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So out of control, in fact, that by
April of 2002, the stolen deposits and
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-gotten loans have ballooned into a $69
million fraud.
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When American Greed returns.
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If his banker friends are hoping for a
turnaround, Bill Erpenbeck may be a lost
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cause. You start looking back going,
well, yeah, the guy was vacationing 20
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weeks out of the year. You know, the guy
was at the bar every night drinking.
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You know, who was running this empire if
he was doing all this?
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In the spring of 2002, home building
giant Bill Erpenbeck is the mastermind
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$69 million fraud.
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being perpetrated in Cincinnati and
Kentucky.
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Among the victims are more than 250
homebuyers, more than 40 title
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and 40 banks.
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But remarkably, despite siphoning $69
million of other people's money into his
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bank account, Erpenbeck can't keep the
company afloat.
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The bricklayers, electricians, and
carpenters who build the houses start to
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notice the company's cash flow problems
in 2001.
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And the urban bank companies were first
slow to pay their subcontractors and
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then just stopped paying them.
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And when they start going after
homebuyers to collect what they're owed,
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fraud breaks wide open.
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Charles and Sherry Mitchell buy their
three -bedroom Urban Beck home in
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Independence, Kentucky in 2001.
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We went to every builder, looked at
every model home. We went to all the
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fests. And then when we found this one,
of course, this is perfect.
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But just months after moving in, the
Mitchells receive the world's worst
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housewarming gift.
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Two liens filed against their home by
frustrated subcontractors.
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It seems they were hired but never paid
by Bill Urbanbeck.
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One of the liens is for only $100, but
the other is for more than $22 ,000.
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I thought it was a joke, and I told him,
oh, that can't happen. I didn't believe
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it, but we found out it was, you know,
true.
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For the Mitchells, the situation is
dire.
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With liens filed against their home, it
could be foreclosed upon through no
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fault of their own.
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It's an unthinkable result.
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All the money that we had, we put in to
just getting in this house.
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We were spent out.
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Charles Mitchell calls Bill Erpenbeck
personally to resolve the liens.
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I called him, and I talked to him
briefly over the phone, and he said it
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big mistake. He apologized and all that,
and he's going to make it right.
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Erpenbeck does, in fact, pay off the
liens.
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But the Mitchells soon realized that
those are only the first cracks of the
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foundation.
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Like hundreds of other homebuyers, the
Mitchells discover Erpenbeck never paid
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off his original loan.
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and that they could again lose their
brand -new house.
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We went through hatred.
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We went through, we were kind of
hysterical. We were scared.
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We were outraged. We were all these
things.
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The Mitchells hire attorney Brandon
Volker to take up their case.
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This was the actual statement of
mechanics and material men's lien that
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the Mitchells received, and ironically,
it was over $100.
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Little did they know at the time that it
was substantially more money at issue
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with their house other than this $100.
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When you bring it down to just its
basics, it's just pure stupidity. It's
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theft. It's as simple as some person
walking into a store.
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and shoplifting and just walking out
with the item, you know, not even trying
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hide it, just carrying it out
triumphantly. I just shoplifted from
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essentially what was going on with
Erfenbeck.
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Volker begins a class action lawsuit in
the Mitchell's name, but he doesn't go
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after Erfenbeck. He sues People's Bank
for allowing Erfenbeck to divert checks
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not payable to him into his company's
bank account.
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As Volker contacts title agencies and
banks.
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Word of the fraud cascades throughout
the home building industry, and
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knows the fraud is coming to an end.
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Four banks and a title company had
discovered what Bill Erpenbeck was
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doing, confronted him about it, and
perhaps he decided that it was in his
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interest to come forth to the government
before the government approached him.
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When American Greed Returns.
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Bill Erpenbeck tries to get ahead of the
fraud's investigation, and he does it
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in disgracefully dramatic fashion.
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It just seemed like it was out of a mob
movie almost.
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Father and son pressuring the daughter
into admitting to crimes that she...
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In the early spring of 2002, Bill
Erpenbeck is spiraling deeper into a $69
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million fraud.
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He's been diverting checks from
homebuyers into his company's bank
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are meant to pay off his construction
loans, leaving hundreds of homebuyers
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holding the bag for his debt and facing
the possibility of losing their homes.
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But the outside world is catching up to
him.
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It was about to be discovered because
there was just too many people
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him, too many people said he didn't have
the money and time to pay all these
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people off.
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On March 22, 2002, Erpenbeck decides to
come clean to the government, or his
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version of clean, anyway.
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Bill Erpenbeck isn't the type of captain
to go down with a ship.
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In a conference room at the U .S.
Attorney's Office in Cincinnati, he
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Kathleen
Brinkman and FBI Special Agent Kevin
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that the fraud was started without his
knowledge by the company accountant.
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Laurie Erpenbeck, his sister.
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It's a dramatic performance.
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He cried a little bit, and he tried to
put it off on his sister that she had a
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rough life. Poor Laurie, you know, she
just, I think she just wanted the help.
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Laurie Erpenbeck does, in fact, have a
hand in the fraud, but is hardly its
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mastermind.
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Her role in the fraud was primarily
depositing the checks.
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But she can't handle the deceit.
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Months before Bill Erpenbeck goes to the
FBI, Lori Erpenbeck leaves the company.
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She didn't want to be involved with it
anymore.
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She was feeling more and more pressure
to do things she didn't want to do.
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Nevertheless, Bill Erpenbeck determines
that Lori needs to take the fall for the
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family.
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The only girl in the family. And pretty
much we determined it was
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treated like dirt for most of her life.
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The family dynamic is evident in this
publicity photo of the Erpenbeck
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It's the father, Tony, and three of his
sons.
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Lori is conspicuously absent.
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As the government digs deeper into the
fraud.
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Bill Erpenbeck's story seems hollow, and
it becomes clear that Laurie is simply
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a scapegoat.
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It became apparent to us in looking at
the documents and talking to the other
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witnesses that Bill Erpenbeck was
involved in the scheme from the
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was a leader of the scheme.
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But Erpenbeck is determined to squirm
his way out of the vice.
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He recruited bankers John Fennin and
Mark Manning into the fraud.
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If blaming his sister doesn't work,
maybe turning in the bankers will.
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Well, Bill was working at that point in
time. He was trying to mitigate his
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circumstances. So Bill was out to save
Bill.
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He turns over recordings of phone
conversations with Fennin and many that
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clearly implicate that the bankers know
about the fraud and that what they are
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doing is wrong.
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It appears that ratting out the bankers
might just work.
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He makes a deal with the government. He
pleads guilty to one count of bank
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fraud. And in exchange for his
cooperation, the government will pursue
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sentence much less than the 30 -year
maximum.
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Based on his assistance, making the
tapes with Finnan and many, telling us
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involvement of other people, it likely
would have brought him down to 10 years.
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But Bill Erpenbeck isn't one to accept a
first offer. He has more tricks up his
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sleeve. Bill, in typical Bill Erpenbeck
fashion, figured I can manipulate the
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system. And once again, his sister Lori
is the sacrificial lamb.
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Days before she is scheduled to testify
at Bill's sentencing hearing in February
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of 2004,
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Kathleen Brinkman gets some shocking
news from Lori's attorney.
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He said, Her father is putting pressure
on her to lie at this upcoming hearing
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related to the sentencing of Bill.
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The elder Erpenbeck is asking her to
take the stand and the blame.
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But Lori has finally had enough.
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She agrees to wear a wire and two nights
later meet with her father.
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As they drive through the streets of
Covington, Kentucky, five FBI vehicles
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follow. listening to the conversation on
a transmitter.
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It was rainy.
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It was just difficult to follow them.
We'd hoped they would stay in the area.
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Fortunately, they did.
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Tony drives Lori to the Marriott
Courtyard in Covington, where the stakes
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raised. On the top level of the parking
garage, Bill Erpenbeck is waiting.
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When Bill got in the car, it was just
the tag team. They're asking for her to
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take the fall.
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to say it's happened on her watch, that
she caused it.
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Quite frankly, from an investigative
standpoint, I don't think we could have
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written a better script ourselves.
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It was just directing her to do nothing
but lie.
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Tony told Lori that we need you to step
up for the family.
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Bill can't go to jail. He has three
children that need him.
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And, you know, you're single.
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more or less throwing Lori under the
bus.
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It was very sad.
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Finally, the FBI determines they've
heard enough, and five cars swoop in and
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encircle the scene of the crime.
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And I'll never forget, when I arrested
Bill and went up to him, he got out and
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he started crying. He says, I'm going
away for 30 years.
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The next day, father and son are
arraigned on obstruction of justice
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Two months later, they plead guilty, and
any points Bill had won for cooperation
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are now long gone.
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Just as he predicted, he's sentenced to
30 years in prison.
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Tony Erpenbeck is sentenced to six
years, but it isn't the last we'll hear
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Bill Erpenbeck's father.
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When American Greed returns.
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Tony Erpenbeck wants revenge.
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How far is he willing to go?
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He described in graphic detail what he
wanted done. It was violent,
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violent death that he was calling for.
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In the summer of 2004, three members of
the Erpenbeck family sit in prison for
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their roles in a $69 million fraud and
its aftermath.
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The mastermind, Bill Erpenbeck, is
guilty of bank fraud and obstruction of
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justice and is sentenced to 30 years in
prison.
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Lori Erpenbeck, his sister, pleads
guilty for her smaller role in the fraud
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is sentenced to one year.
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And their father, Tony Erpenbeck, is
sentenced by Judge Arthur Spiegel to six
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years for obstruction of justice.
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after being recorded trying to convince
Laurie to take the blame for the fraud
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in order to save Bill.
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Tony Lifton died for Bill.
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Bill was the all -star in that family,
and he's the one that got the respect
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and the attention from the father.
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Sixty -nine -year -old Tony Erpenbeck
once reigned over the mighty Erpenbeck
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home -building dynasty.
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But now...
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feeling that both his and his son Bill's
lives are ruined, wants revenge.
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In December 2004, Tim Tracy, the FBI
special agent who arrested Tony
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on the obstruction charges, received
news that he'll never forget.
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After Tony was sentenced for his
obstruction charge and he was
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the Lexington medical facility, he had
made...
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comment to another inmate about killing
Judge Spiegel, killing Kathy Brinkman,
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and kidnapping my children.
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The inmate, John Collins, alerts the
authorities and agrees to record further
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conversations with Erpenbeck.
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Assistant U .S. Attorney Rob Duncan
prosecutes the case.
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In the first recording, it's Mr.
Erpenbeck speaking with Collins about...
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what he wants done, how he wants it
done. The second conversation is more of
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same, but there's more detail. There
seems to be a little bit more of a level
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specificity.
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In language too profane to repeat,
Erpenbeck tells Collins he wants the
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of Attorney Brinkman and Judge Spiegel
mutilated, with body parts cut or shot
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off.
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His plan for Special Agent Tracy's
children is even more sadistic.
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He says he wants the 8 - and 12 -year
-olds buried alive in caskets with a
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leading above ground for air and enough
water and crackers to allow them to
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survive trapped and terrified
underground for a full two weeks, simply
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torture of it.
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It's one thing to threaten me. I've had
it happen a few times.
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I'm armed. I can take care of myself.
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To threaten a family, it's a different
thing.
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The inmate, John Collins, leads
Erpenbeck to believe that he is capable
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carrying out the threats.
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And Erpenbeck lets him know he's
serious.
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I talked about price and $500 ,000
payment initially,
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and then an additional amount if it
was...
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if it was carried out and completed. I
think that is when Mr. Ruppenbach made
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the statement about if it takes a
million, it takes a million.
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Knowing it will become public, Tracy
decides that he needs to let his
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know about the threats.
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They were just amazed that someone could
be that mean.
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But I didn't tell them everything, but
it eventually was in the newspaper. My
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oldest child read it and was pretty
upset.
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I mean, had he talked to somebody else
other than Mr. Collins, who knows what
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would have happened.
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Fortunately, the only thing that happens
is that on April 7, 2005,
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Tony Erpenbeck is indicted on seven
counts relating to the plot.
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He goes on trial eight months later.
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His claim was, I wasn't serious, that I
was afraid of Collins, that I was afraid
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of prison life, and that he never
intended to carry out the threats.
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It could conceivably be a persuasive
argument until the jury hears the tapes.
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I think they resonated.
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Certainly, they resulted in, at least in
part, in his convictions.
425
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,760
Tony Erpenbeck is convicted on four
counts of solicitation for threatening
426
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,720
kill a federal judge and federal law
enforcement officer and threatening to
427
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,960
kidnap a federal officer's family
members.
428
00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:11,380
It extends his total prison sentence to
20 years.
429
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:18,040
Once again, it appears that the
Erpenbecks have no more options, but
430
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,580
be underestimating their demented
creativity.
431
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:27,260
In the summer of 2009, former home
-building giants Bill and Tony Erpenbeck
432
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:33,100
in federal prisons, serving out long
sentences for their participation in a
433
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,580
million fraud and its aftermath.
434
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:41,140
Lori Erpenbeck has served a one -year
sentence for her role in the fraud and
435
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:42,140
been released.
436
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:47,200
The Erpenbeck closing agent, Michelle
Marksberry, has pleaded guilty to one
437
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,560
count of bank fraud and serves two
years.
438
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,440
She's also been released.
439
00:31:52,660 --> 00:31:58,080
Bill's brothers, Gary and Jeff
Erpenbeck, are investigated in the fraud
440
00:31:58,080 --> 00:31:59,080
charged.
441
00:32:00,110 --> 00:32:04,210
For the hundreds of homebuyers
represented in Brandon Volker's class
442
00:32:04,210 --> 00:32:07,750
lawsuit against People's Bank, there's
even a happy ending.
443
00:32:09,530 --> 00:32:15,450
The bank, which allowed illegal deposits
into Erpenbeck's account, pays off all
444
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:19,730
the construction mortgages that
Erpenbeck had left on the homebuyers'
445
00:32:20,210 --> 00:32:23,910
My clients went through a lot, but they
got what they were supposed to have
446
00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:26,010
gotten from day one, their house free
and clear.
447
00:32:27,340 --> 00:32:32,100
It's something Charles and Sherry
Mitchell, the initiators of the suit,
448
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,100
proud of.
449
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:38,200
I felt good that we not only helped
ourselves, we helped a lot of other
450
00:32:38,220 --> 00:32:39,220
That was a good feeling.
451
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,960
I can only speak for myself.
452
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,560
I mean, I felt good about that.
453
00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:49,360
Unfortunately for Linda Harlow, she is
left dealing with the fallout from
454
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,260
Erpenbeck's fraud for years.
455
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:56,760
Because Erpenbeck never cleared his
original loan on the construction, The
456
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520
is burdened with an overwhelming amount
of debt.
457
00:32:59,900 --> 00:33:06,280
It was $240 ,000 on a house that was
worth $142 ,000.
458
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,600
She declares bankruptcy and walks away
from the home.
459
00:33:13,060 --> 00:33:15,660
Sometimes you just can't give a house
away.
460
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:20,420
I tried to give clear title to my bank.
They couldn't take it. I tried to give
461
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:23,100
the title back to Urban Beck's lender.
462
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,300
They couldn't take it.
463
00:33:25,030 --> 00:33:30,350
Eventually, she finds recourse by suing
her mortgage company, which she believes
464
00:33:30,350 --> 00:33:34,570
botched the closing by not fulfilling
its responsibility of making sure
465
00:33:34,570 --> 00:33:36,670
Erpenbeck's loan was paid off.
466
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:42,390
At the end, it was settled favorably in
my case.
467
00:33:42,610 --> 00:33:44,550
You can't get back the frustration.
468
00:33:46,450 --> 00:33:50,790
But, you know, I learned a lot from it.
469
00:33:51,340 --> 00:33:56,480
People's Bank, which is very profitable
before the fraud breaks, can't recover
470
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,220
from the money they owe from the
lawsuits and are eventually sold.
471
00:34:01,180 --> 00:34:07,080
In June 2004, John Fennin and Mark
Minney each plead guilty to three counts
472
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:12,020
relating to bank fraud and go on to
serve five years and four and a half
473
00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:13,020
respectively.
474
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,600
In all, Bill Erpenbeck leaves behind him
a trail of destruction.
475
00:34:19,230 --> 00:34:25,350
that lands six people in prison for
combined sentences of more than 60 years
476
00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:30,050
defrauds banks, title companies, and
homeowners of more than $60 million.
477
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:37,830
In November 2005, Erpenbeck talks with a
Cincinnati news station from prison in
478
00:34:37,830 --> 00:34:41,250
Florida to make one last sales pitch for
sympathy.
479
00:34:42,190 --> 00:34:43,489
We all made mistakes.
480
00:34:44,050 --> 00:34:45,050
I did.
481
00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:46,449
John did.
482
00:34:47,230 --> 00:34:48,230
Mark did.
483
00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,489
You know, I thought about it a thousand
times since then. If I just would have
484
00:34:52,489 --> 00:34:57,470
thought of one thing, if I just would
have thought of the customer first, and
485
00:34:57,470 --> 00:34:58,530
not thought of everything else.
486
00:35:00,730 --> 00:35:04,070
But four years later, Erpenbeck thinks
he's suffered enough.
487
00:35:04,930 --> 00:35:10,530
In August 2009, hoping to get
consideration for a lesser sentence, he
488
00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:15,110
Special Agent Gormley to tell him about
personal assets that he had kept hidden
489
00:35:15,110 --> 00:35:16,950
during the original investigation.
490
00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:21,790
Gormley heads to the Federal
Correctional Institute in Coleman,
491
00:35:21,790 --> 00:35:23,030
speak to Erpenbeck.
492
00:35:23,490 --> 00:35:27,090
Well, what he told us was that he was
not honest with me when he talked to me
493
00:35:27,090 --> 00:35:28,090
the beginning.
494
00:35:28,410 --> 00:35:29,410
What a surprise.
495
00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:33,570
But what he told me is that he gave
money to Steve Skidmore.
496
00:35:34,090 --> 00:35:38,850
Steve Skidmore was Erpenbeck's friend
and next -door neighbor in 2002 when
497
00:35:38,850 --> 00:35:40,730
Erpenbeck was first under investigation.
498
00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:43,690
And now he's been sold out.
499
00:35:44,410 --> 00:35:49,590
Skidmore bought the house of former
Erpenbeck neighbor Glenn Fagan when
500
00:35:49,590 --> 00:35:50,850
moved in 1999.
501
00:35:51,730 --> 00:35:55,630
Bill was one of those guys that would
hone in on somebody.
502
00:35:56,270 --> 00:35:59,950
There was always somebody who was
rotating out of the cycle, putting under
503
00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:02,250
wing, and taking along for the ride.
504
00:36:03,350 --> 00:36:06,590
But rides with Erpenbeck have a way of
getting bumpy.
505
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:12,660
In prison in Florida, Erpenbeck tells
Special Agent Gormley a story from back
506
00:36:12,660 --> 00:36:13,660
2002.
507
00:36:14,260 --> 00:36:19,260
He said he went golfing with Steve
Skidmore and they talked in the car.
508
00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:21,820
And he said, hey, I've got the money.
509
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,100
I don't know what to do with it. And
Steve offered to add it for him.
510
00:36:27,620 --> 00:36:32,660
Erpenbeck tells Gormley that the money
is zipped away in an Erpenbeck company
511
00:36:32,660 --> 00:36:34,140
soft -sided cooler.
512
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:37,550
that he doesn't know what Skidmore did
with it.
513
00:36:38,450 --> 00:36:44,090
Gormley heads back to Kentucky and
crafts a plan to pry the secret out of
514
00:36:44,090 --> 00:36:49,190
Skidmore. The special agent enlists
Bill's brother, Jeff Erpenbeck, to wear
515
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:54,310
wire and tell Skidmore that the
Erpenbecks are desperate for cash and
516
00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:56,370
know where he's hidden the money.
517
00:36:58,230 --> 00:37:03,730
Steve Skidmore finally admitted after
some time that, okay, this is legit.
518
00:37:04,270 --> 00:37:05,530
I need to get this money to Bill.
519
00:37:06,190 --> 00:37:12,050
He tells Jeff Erpenbeck he buried it on
the golf course behind his house, 46
520
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:13,750
paces off the third tee box.
521
00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:18,830
Within the week, the FBI starts digging.
522
00:37:19,310 --> 00:37:24,810
Here's the third hole, the golf course,
really 46 paces from here.
523
00:37:27,350 --> 00:37:31,950
But agents soon begin to doubt that X
marks the spot.
524
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,440
It's been years, and a lot has changed.
So that landscape and the roots have
525
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,800
grown over, so it's really some tough
digging.
526
00:37:43,220 --> 00:37:48,580
After five long hours of digging, one of
the agents finally spots the corner of
527
00:37:48,580 --> 00:37:49,720
a $100 bill.
528
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,120
And I almost didn't believe it, because
we had been out there for so long
529
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,560
digging. And sure enough, we could see
remnants of a cooler.
530
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:04,560
The agents unearthed the same soft
-sided Erpenbeck company cooler that
531
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,580
Erpenbeck had described.
532
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:10,540
Could this be the remnants of
Erpenbeck's $69 million scam?
533
00:38:11,460 --> 00:38:15,320
It was in horrible condition when we
found it. It was wet, it was damp, it
534
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:19,740
torn up, and there was nothing done to
protect the integrity of the case or the
535
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:20,740
funds.
536
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:25,280
Nevertheless, the agents are able to
salvage enough pieces to send to the
537
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:26,400
Department of the Treasury.
538
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,320
And they received back a check for $257
,611.
539
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:39,920
Skidmore, who had previously told
Gormley he knew nothing about hidden
540
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:44,980
charged with making false statements to
a federal agent. His excuse is sadly
541
00:38:44,980 --> 00:38:47,180
naive. I just said he did it for Bill.
542
00:38:47,940 --> 00:38:50,020
It was just, again, blind loyalty.
543
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,480
He was furious.
544
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,820
And in a way, I understand his
frustration.
545
00:38:54,460 --> 00:38:55,880
He didn't take any of the funds.
546
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:01,550
You know, it can only be filed under the
category of no good deed goes
547
00:39:01,550 --> 00:39:07,250
unpunished. You know, he wasn't involved
with Bill in any way, shape or form
548
00:39:07,250 --> 00:39:13,830
other than a drinking buddy and a golf
buddy and thought he was doing Bill a
549
00:39:13,830 --> 00:39:14,830
favor.
550
00:39:16,730 --> 00:39:21,390
Skidmore pleads guilty and is sentenced
to 16 months in prison.
551
00:39:22,690 --> 00:39:25,990
Bill Erpenbeck's betrayal is all for
nothing.
552
00:39:26,730 --> 00:39:29,510
He doesn't get a single day taken off
his sentence.
553
00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:34,150
He only accomplishes landing one more
friend in prison.
554
00:39:34,910 --> 00:39:38,310
Steve Skidmore would not be in prison if
it were not for Bill Erpenbeck.
555
00:39:39,230 --> 00:39:41,010
Laurie Erpenbeck would not be in prison.
556
00:39:41,890 --> 00:39:43,790
Michelle Marksbury would not have gone
to prison.
557
00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:49,070
I don't think the bankers would have
gone to prison without Bill Erpenbeck.
558
00:39:50,370 --> 00:39:53,770
Erpenbeck is still scheduled to be
released in 2025.
559
00:39:54,390 --> 00:39:58,040
But with Bill Erpenbeck, You never know
what might happen.
560
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,120
I don't think we've heard the last.
There's probably something else going to
561
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,900
come up. This is a case that never ends.
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