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In this episode of American Greed,
Carlos Perez Olivo, a lawyer with a
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tongue. He had a gift. His voice, his
diction. He was an actor.
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And solid gold taste.
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Even though I made a lot of money, I
spent a lot of money.
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But when he's disbarred for fleecing
desperate clients, he finds another way
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make money.
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Oh, my goodness.
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He's really that greedy.
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And proves that greed really is a deadly
sin.
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You have a disbarred lawyer.
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You have a plain wife.
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You have a mistress. You have a life
insurance policy.
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Just an unbelievably gripping saga.
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Are you driving a car right now? I'm
trying to get my life to the hospital.
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I think you might be, I think you might
be shot.
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On November 18th, 2006, former attorney
Carlos Perez Olivo and his wife
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Peggy are leaving a fancy dinner in
Manhattan and heading home to
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County.
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It's a typical Saturday night in what
seems like a fairytale marriage, one
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started more than 30 years ago, and one
Perez Olivo says he had a feeling about
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from the first night they met.
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Basically... I talked to her all night.
I saw her the next day, and by the end
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of the next day, it was like I'd known
her all my life.
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Three or four weeks after that, I got
rid of all the other girls that I knew.
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Three months after that, I proposed to
her, and six months after that, I was
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married.
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They have three children together, and
Peggy becomes a teaching assistant where
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her youngest child went to elementary
school.
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At a salary of less than $25 ,000 a
year, She does it simply for the
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satisfaction it gives her.
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She loved it. She loved it.
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And she was very good at it.
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And I think they were very fond of her.
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But on this night, just after 11 p .m.
on a dark, lonely highway, just five
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miles from home,
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Perez Olivo says he and Peggy are run
off the road by an unknown vehicle.
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Bar came up, got in front of me.
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I didn't want to hit it because I'd been
drinking.
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According to Perez Olivo, a man with a
gun approaches and jumps in his back
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seat. Perez Olivo tries to disarm him.
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In the ensuing struggle, Perez Olivo
says three shots go off.
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One strikes Perez Olivo in the abdomen,
and the assailant flees the scene.
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Perez Olivo turns his attention to his
wife Peggy.
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I remember seeing that Peggy had her
head by the window.
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Peggy, Peggy. And there was no answer,
so I figured something was wrong.
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It appears that a stray bullet has hit
Peggy in the back of the head.
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As Perez Olivo races for the hospital,
he calls 911.
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But not long after he arrived, the
police raised some questions about what
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Olivo says happens that night.
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Was this a random act of violence or an
execution?
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Perez Olivo's life begins to turn toward
this dark road more than a decade
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earlier.
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where this seemingly run -down building
in the Bronx actually houses a lucrative
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criminal defense practice.
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According to author Kevin McMurray, it
affords Carlos Perez Olivo and his wife
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Peggy an enviable lifestyle.
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They loved going to the city, see
movies, have dinner.
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They traveled back and forth to Puerto
Rico.
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He eventually moved up to Chappaqua.
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It's a very affluent community in
Westchester County.
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There's just one problem.
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Many clients claim he's a crook.
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Belzabel Fernandez is a second
-generation American living and working
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Island.
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In the mid-'90s, she hears some bad news
about her younger brother, Omar
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Sanabia. He was just, you know, a young
kid hanging out with the wrong crowd.
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And the way that it is, you know, it
ended up in the wrong direction.
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Omar has been arrested for assault.
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As he sits in jail, Belcibel and her
mother scramble to find an attorney when
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they find Carlos Perez Olivo.
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Frightened, overwhelmed, and new to
hiring lawyers, the Sanabria family
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for reassurance.
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And Perez Olivo immediately provides it.
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He told us, and my parents, listen, I
understand, you know, what you're going
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through, and, you know, I'm a father as
well.
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Desperate to protect Omar as best they
can, Delcibel's parents sell their home
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in the Dominican Republic to pay his
legal bills, including $15 ,000 in bail
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money.
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Omar eventually pleads guilty to assault
and is sentenced to six years maximum
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in prison.
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Perez Olivo makes the Sanabias an offer.
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He tells them he can get their $15 ,000
of bail money returned to them more
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quickly because of his connections.
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Since they still owe him $5 ,000, he
signs a note saying he'll take that
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out of the $15 ,000 of bail money.
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and return $10 ,000 to them.
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I signed over the paperwork for him to
take his balance, and he said, I'll
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contact you within the week.
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But at the end of the week, and the next
week, and the next, there's still no
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word.
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After months go by without being able to
contact Perez or Lee Boom, the Sanabria
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family think their money is lost.
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I'm like, we got stiffed.
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We got robbed.
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They aren't the only ones to think so.
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Andrew Bratton is the retired Deputy
Chief Counsel for the New York Supreme
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Court Disciplinary Committee, where
angry clients can go to get grievances
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their lawyers resolved.
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Bratton says that he hears more than a
dozen similar complaints from clients
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about Perez Olivo.
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I think what happened here is that Mr.
Perez Olivo had a large...
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mill type of practice.
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And his mill keeps churning out clients.
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In a place like New York City, which
processes more than a thousand criminal
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arraignments per day,
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Perez Olivo apparently believes in
quantity over quality.
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What he did, they stopped caring.
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He had so many clients. It was such a
business. Life was good. And these
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just became a cash register for him.
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When American greed returns,
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Carlos Perez Olivo continues mining
clients for money.
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But can he keep taking it without
consequence?
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These people you don't walk over. This
was Mr.
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Perez Olivo's downfall because he
assumed he can just walk over everybody.
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By 1996, some of criminal defense
attorney Carlos Perez Olivo's clients
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accusing him of not doing the work he's
been hired to perform.
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But when they try to get their money
back, they can't find him.
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I kept calling and kept calling and kept
calling. Nobody would ever return their
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call to me.
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So I went over there and he wasn't
there.
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Nobody was there. He's gone.
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Perez Olivo has uprooted his family from
the plush New York suburbs and taken
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them to his hometown of San Juan, Puerto
Rico.
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Beau Vasquiteus is a longtime friend of
Perez Olivo dating back to the 70s, when
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Vasquiteus was a court reporter in the
Puerto Rico federal court, and Perez
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Olivo was a young attorney just starting
out.
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He had a gift, his voice, his diction.
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It got to the point, whenever Carlos was
in trial, people couldn't fit into the
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courtroom. They wanted to see him in
action, because he would put on a show.
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was an actor.
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And as his legend grew, so did his
clientele.
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Whenever he would go to visit his
clients in prison, they told him that
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other inmates that wanted to use him as
an attorney, and they wanted to dispense
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with the services of their prior
attorney.
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It's a level of success he'll need to
repeat upon his return to the island 15
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years later.
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Vazcatea says that Perez Olivo's wife
Peggy has become accustomed to a certain
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lifestyle.
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She had to have a certain type of a car,
and she needed to have a cleaning
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woman, and she had to have a house of
certain dimensions.
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Both my wife and I kind of believed that
you never knew when life was going to
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end. So we lived as well as we could.
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It means the pressure is on Perez Olivo.
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He felt that he had to get a lot of
cases, he had to get a lot of clients,
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had to charge him higher fees, and he
had to deliver.
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From what Vasquez remembers of the Perez
Olivo of the 70s, he thinks delivering
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will be no problem for the mesmerizing
courtroom performer.
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But Vasquez soon discovers that the
Carlos Perez Olivo who left the island
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than 15 years ago
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is not the same man who has returned.
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Some time goes by and I was approached
by many of these attorneys and told me
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how disappointed they were in Carl and
how ineffective he was and things that
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was doing.
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He was falling asleep in court.
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And his clients are outraged.
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He was taking the money and not doing
the work that he was supposed to have
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doing.
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One client claims to have given Perez
Olivo $30 ,000 to work on an appeal,
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Perez Olivo never files.
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He simply takes the money and breaks off
all contact.
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And that client isn't alone.
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Three more clients issue complaints, and
the Puerto Rico federal court decides
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to step in.
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There was a hearing held before a
magistrate.
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And they cited several cases, and they
recommended to the judge that he be
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disbarred.
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Instead of answering the charges,
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Pérez Olivo agrees to surrender his
license in Puerto Rico and returns his
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practice to New York.
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But a change of scene doesn't mean a
change of method.
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Some clients in New York say he's just
back to his old tricks.
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What do I think?
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He is a lowlife.
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Angie Stone is a widow living in
Westchester County in New York.
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In 2001, her housekeeper, Tranquilina
Leguizamon Diaz, an illegal immigrant
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Paraguay, is arrested in a sting
operation for trying to buy a visa
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from an undercover agent.
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Diaz is eventually convicted of bribing
a public official.
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Before she is sentenced...
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She decides to change lawyers.
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She heard of somebody called Carlos
Perez Olivo.
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I wasn't altogether comfortable with
that, but I called Mr. Olivo.
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Diaz and her husband gather their entire
life savings, $13 ,000, to retain Perez
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Olivo. But it's not enough.
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Stone agrees to put in another $7 ,500
herself.
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Eileen Shapiro is the attorney who will
later take over Diaz's case.
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He didn't do anything.
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He didn't say anything. He didn't do
anything. He didn't put in a sentencing
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memorandum. It was like he wasn't even
present.
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He does bother to file a notice of
appeal after sentencing, but then lets
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deadline to file the appeal itself pass,
and the court dismisses it.
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It was repellent to me that somebody
would do something like this to somebody
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that was essentially a helpless person.
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For Shapiro, there's only one
explanation.
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He didn't want to write a brief.
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It's not an easy thing to do. He took
his money, he spent his money, and now
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it's time to write his brief.
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And he doesn't want to do it.
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The most common complaint against him
was he neglected my case or he didn't do
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enough.
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Andrew Bratton begins gathering
complaints about Perez Olivo in the
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As part of his role as Deputy Chief
Counsel for the New York Supreme Court
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Disciplinary Committee, he says all the
complainants have one thing in common.
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Every criminal defendant is faced with
deprivation of civil liberty. So by
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definition, every criminal defendant is
scared.
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And in these cases, not only is the
criminal defendant scared and
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but the families of the criminal
defendants are scared and vulnerable.
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While Tranquilina Leguizamondias is
sitting frightened in jail, waiting for
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kind of news or progress, worrying about
the welfare of her two young children,
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Carlos Perez Olivo does nothing.
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Well, not nothing.
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We traveled a lot.
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I had a lot of cars.
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I like cars.
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We'd shop. We'd eat at good restaurants.
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We believed that you couldn't take it
with you, so you might as well enjoy.
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when you could.
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And as it turns out, I think it was not
such a bad philosophy.
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Not if you can get away with it.
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To Perez Olivo, $10 ,000 or $20 ,000
means a family vacation in Europe.
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But to some of his clients, it's their
entire life savings.
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And one of those clients catches up to
him.
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The Sanabria family had given up on ever
recovering the $10 ,000 that Perez
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Olivo had walked away with five years
earlier.
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But suddenly, fate intervenes. My older
brother was at the courthouse and kind
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of remembered his face.
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And he had never met my older brother.
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So he went up to him and said, oh, you
know, are you a lawyer? And he said,
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yeah. So he gave him the business card.
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After nearly five years of searching,
Belcibel Fernandez has found the man who
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took her parents' $10 ,000 and files a
complaint with the New York Supreme
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Disciplinary Committee.
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When American Greed returns,
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living office clients' backs is about to
catch up to Carlos Perez Olivo.
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Will he be able to get by without them?
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His credit card debt was mounting. He
had no apparent source of income.
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Or will it lead him down a path where
there's no turning back?
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Are you driving a car right now?
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By 2003, the New York State Supreme
Court Disciplinary Committee is getting
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and more complaints about criminal
defense attorney Carlos Perez Olivo.
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Some clients say he's just a con man,
taking their money but not doing any of
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the work.
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We had received during that period in
the early 2000s roughly at least 15 if
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20 complaints.
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That stands out. When you get to the
level of 10, 15, 20 complaints.
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you would be considered what we used to
call in our office one of our regulars.
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The disciplinary committee alerts Perez
Olivo to the complaints.
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But he doesn't seem too concerned.
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You're supposed to answer the complaints
right away. Well, I didn't answer them.
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Sometimes I'd wait, and there was three
or four of them. Three or four months, I
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got four or five letters.
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So they weren't very happy with me.
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And the complaints keep piling up.
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In June 2003, Nilsa DiGiacomo gives
Perez Olivo $10 ,000 to represent
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her nephew, Miguel Delgado, who has been
incarcerated for conspiracy to
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distribute narcotics.
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I was scared to death. I was thinking
about his kids, about him going to jail,
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all the horrible things that I heard
happened in jail.
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But less than five weeks later, a
federal judge kicks Perez Olivo off the
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He could represent me for real. He said
that he could.
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Unbeknownst to Delgado, Perez Olivo is
already representing a co -conspirator
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his, Juan Cruz, a clear conflict of
interest.
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Perez Olivo claimed that Delgado knew
there was a possibility of a conflict.
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in fact... Part of the $10 ,000 fee was
to research whether or not Perez Olivo
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would be able to take his case.
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I mean, it makes no sense.
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There's so many lawyers out there. Why
would you pay one lawyer $10 ,000 to
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out if he could be a lawyer?
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It makes no sense.
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When Perez Olivo refuses to return the
money, DiGiacomo and Delgado join the
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group of complainants with the
disciplinary committee.
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The vast majority of attorneys out there
gingerly treat these people because
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they understand that these people are
over a barrel. There are a small segment
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of attorneys who will use this as an
opportunity to enrich themselves, and
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is what Mr. Perez Oliva did.
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Andrew Bratton begins disbarment
proceedings in the summer of 2005.
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For many of Perez Oliva's clients, it's
their first chance to confront him.
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I wanted to jump over the desk and just
punch him in the face.
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These people you don't walk over.
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In these particular cases, this was Mr.
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Perez Oliva's downfall because he
assumed he can just walk over everybody.
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It's also the first time they get to
hear Perez Oliva's response to their
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charges. I earned the money.
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I have no doubt I did.
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Abraham Lincoln, the president we all
quote a lot.
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Basically said an attorney's stock and
trade is time. Because I don't sell
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potatoes, okay? I sell my time.
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His clients see it quite differently.
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I don't know where he gets that from.
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He must be dreaming.
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Keep him to anything.
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Perez Olivo's closing argument, however,
reveals a man that apparently believes
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he's untouchable.
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During the final summation, their
argument was pretty much, well, who are
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going to believe?
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Are you going to believe this
practitioner who's been practicing for
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or are you going to believe criminal
defendants and their families?
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Who are you going to believe?
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In this case, the court makes perfectly
clear who it believes, the clients, and
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Perez Olivo is disbarred.
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I feel that justice was done.
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That he earned.
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But surprisingly, the decision delights
him as well.
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I was dancing almost because I felt like
a big weight had been taken off my
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shoulders. I didn't want to do this
anymore.
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He claims he's as happy as ever.
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I had a lot of fun.
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I met a person who, there is such a
thing as a soulmate. She was.
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I had my children. I had everything I
wanted, yeah.
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Perez Olivo says his disbarment has cost
him nothing.
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He has plenty of opportunities outside
of law to make money, which is good,
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because he's going to need it.
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He has a lot of expenses to keep up
with.
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Most noteworthy, the $5 ,500 a month
rent he has to pay for his new house in
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Chappaqua, the one three doors down from
the most famous power couple in the
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world.
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Bill and Hillary Clinton.
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For Perez Olivo to keep his head above
water, he's going to have to get
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creative.
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Dangerously so.
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When American Greed returns,
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Carlos Perez Olivo finds himself
fighting for his life in more ways than
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The woman and her husband, a disgraced
lawyer, were attacked Saturday night.
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Oh, I knew I wasn't going to be a
suspect. I'm telling you, I was a
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attorney for 30 years. Of course they're
going to look at me. They'd be stupid
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not to look at me.
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On November 18, 2006,
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recently disbarred attorney Carlos Perez
Olivo and his wife Peggy...
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are enjoying a date night in Manhattan.
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By around 10 p .m., they are on their
way home.
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As Peggy sleeps,
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Perez Olivo decides to fill the car with
gas.
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That decision will take them up Route
100, a twisting highway through
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dark woods. There are no lights and
little traffic.
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On the way to the station, tragedy
strikes.
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To get to the gas station, there's a
stretch of road that's basically
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Car came up, cut in front of me.
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He says he comes to a complete stop,
barely avoiding a collision with the car
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front of him.
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Next thing I knew, the guy opened the
back door.
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He got out.
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He had a gun.
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I mean, I remember coming to the side.
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He opened the door and got in the back
seat.
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According to Perez Olivo, the man
doesn't say a word, but holds the gun up
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Perez Olivo believes he can grab it.
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What I did was I grabbed the gun. I was
trying to twist it to take it away from
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him. And we were struggling.
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Gunshots.
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Gun fired.
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I believe it was three shots.
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One of the shots hits Perez Olivo in the
side, allowing his assailant to escape.
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Perez Olivo turns his attention to his
wife in the front seat.
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I remember seeing that Peggy had her
head by the window.
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Peggy, Peggy. And there was no answer,
so I figured something was wrong.
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What happened to you?
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He ran me off the road.
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He ran you off the road?
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Yeah. He ran me back. He ran me back to
you.
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Are you driving a car right now?
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Yes, I'm driving. I'm driving to my
hospital.
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I'm driving to my hospital.
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I think he's with me.
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I think he's with me.
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Okay. Where did he get shot?
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Okay, okay. Okay, take it easy. She got
shot in there?
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Within 15 minutes, they are at Northern
Westchester Hospital.
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Perez Olivo is shot through the side,
but the injury is not life -threatening.
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Peggy, however, is much worse.
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She has been shot in the back of the
head and is completely non -responsive.
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I was telling him, forget about me.
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Go take care of my wife. Forget about
me.
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They sedated me a bit and took my
clothes off.
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Clean me up and... I never saw my wife
again.
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Before dawn, Peggy succumbs.
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The assault has become a homicide.
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And the story makes headlines all across
New York.
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Rebecca Baker covers courts and crime
for the Westchester newspaper, The
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News.
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It was a huge story right from the
beginning.
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The big news typically in that section
of the county is when a BMW gets dinged.
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And public comments by the police just
add fuel to the fire.
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The story was unusual, and that's the
way we looked at it.
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He had said, have you ruled him out as a
suspect?
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And they said, we haven't ruled anybody
out.
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And that was really the first clue that
he was being looked at as having some
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kind of involvement in Peggy's death.
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In the meantime, Perez Olivo continues
to cooperate with police.
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And he has his own possible theory about
what happened that night.
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The first thing out of the police mouth
was, have you ever been threatened? Do
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you have any problems? Yeah, I've had
death threats.
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One of the names that I initially gave
him was Elio Cruz.
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Perez Olivo represented Elio Cruz in a
murder trial in 2005.
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Like many of Perez Olivo's clients, Cruz
is left with a bitter taste in his
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mouth.
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He basically botched the defense.
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He was in the middle of his closing
arguments, and he said he had forgotten
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rest of his statement.
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Perez Olivo claims this is a distortion
of the truth.
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In the closing argument, I said to the
jury, as I always would say a lot of
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times, look, I think he's not guilty
because of this, this, this, this.
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There may be things that I didn't catch
or that I'm forgetting now.
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If forgetfulness is his strategy, it
doesn't work.
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When the verdict comes back guilty, Elio
Cruz is outraged.
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And according to Perez Olivo, Cruz let
him know it.
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Basically, I believe the threats were
that his life was ruined and he was
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to ruin my life.
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Could that include murder?
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On American Greed Return, has Perez
Olivo's cavalier lawyering led to his
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death?
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Or did the police have another idea?
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Their narrative of this whole ordeal was
that this was a murder for money.
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For more information on Carlos Perez
Olivo, visit AmericanGreed .CNBC .com.
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We'll be right back.
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In Westchester County, New York,
investigators from the Newcastle Police
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Department continue questioning
disbarred attorney Carlos Perez Olivo.
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about the 2006 shooting death of his
wife, Peggy.
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Perez Olivo continues to present the
possibility that an ex -client
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the roadside ambush that killed his
wife, but police apparently don't think
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was a hit gone bad.
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In November of 2007, reporter Rebecca
Baker is alerted to two civil court
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filings that suggest what the police
might be thinking.
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Two life insurance companies stopped
payment on Peggy Perez Olivo's death
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because Carla still hadn't been ruled
out as a suspect.
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On December 20, 2007, Perez Olivo is
indicted for the murder of his wife.
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Once the papers were handed up with the
indictment, it really ripped open the
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whole case and showed what the police
had been working on all these months.
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The prosecution will show that Peggy had
nearly $900 ,000 of life insurance at
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the time of her death, an amount that
had increased by more than 50 % in the
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previous 18 months, with Perez Olivo
named as the primary beneficiary.
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And it appears that Perez Olivo could
use it.
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Prosecution documents cite that he has
less than $200 in his three bank
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at the time of her death.
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And furthermore, Perez Olivo had been
carrying on a 10 -year affair with a
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he had met in Puerto Rico.
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In fact, he sent her flowers just two
days before the murder.
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The whole alternate story that had
nothing to do with the hitman, that had
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nothing to do with an ambush, all of a
sudden came out. The whole game had
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changed. Yeah, I'm sure we had it.
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Perez Olivo hires attorney Christopher
McClure to defend him.
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00:30:52,620 --> 00:30:56,620
To McClure, the affair is simply a cheap
distraction.
442
00:30:58,020 --> 00:31:01,660
They had no direct evidence linking him
to the murder of his wife.
443
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:07,080
So what they had to do is they had to
show or try and show a jury that he
444
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:07,779
a nice guy.
445
00:31:07,780 --> 00:31:08,880
You shouldn't believe him.
446
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:10,620
He's a disbarred attorney.
447
00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:14,700
He cheats on his wife. Based upon those
things, he killed his wife.
448
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:19,750
The mere fact that I did send a flower
more or less on that day shows that the
449
00:31:19,750 --> 00:31:22,190
last thing from my mind was to do
anything wrong.
450
00:31:22,590 --> 00:31:26,050
Because, I mean, I think you can tell
I'm a fairly intelligent person.
451
00:31:26,950 --> 00:31:27,950
I'm not an idiot.
452
00:31:28,070 --> 00:31:31,730
And only an idiot would do something
like that. All right?
453
00:31:33,850 --> 00:31:39,170
For prosecutors, the affair simply shows
Perez Olivo's ability to put his own
454
00:31:39,170 --> 00:31:41,490
concerns ahead of those of his family.
455
00:31:43,020 --> 00:31:45,860
The mistress was a side attraction.
456
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:52,480
Their narrative of this whole ordeal was
that this was a murder for money.
457
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:58,940
When the trial begins on September 12,
2008, the Westchester County District
458
00:31:58,940 --> 00:32:03,320
Attorney's Office, led by Janet DiFiori,
lays out its case.
459
00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:09,240
Carlos Perez Olivo, prosecutors say.
460
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,840
takes the long way home not because he
needs to get gas, but because it's a
461
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,860
and desolate road, the perfect place to
commit a murder.
462
00:32:19,460 --> 00:32:21,220
We believe that Mrs.
463
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,740
Perez Olivo was asleep in the front
passenger seat of the car when her
464
00:32:26,740 --> 00:32:31,900
slipped in the back seat behind her and
placed the muzzle of the gun under the
465
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:36,660
headrest and fired one shot, the one
shot, the fatal shot that killed her.
466
00:32:37,870 --> 00:32:43,630
As a sort of alibi, prosecutors say,
Perez Olivo shoots himself in the side,
467
00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:48,190
then calls 911 in a frantic tone that
only mimics despair.
468
00:32:49,350 --> 00:32:53,690
I believe that it's very likely he went
over this again and again in his head,
469
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:59,070
and he rehearsed every step of this
plan, including what he would report to
470
00:32:59,070 --> 00:33:00,550
police in the 911 call.
471
00:33:01,910 --> 00:33:05,250
And they say he did it all for the
money.
472
00:33:05,950 --> 00:33:09,870
Mr. Perez Olivo was having financial
difficulties.
473
00:33:10,390 --> 00:33:15,650
His bank accounts, the balances were
dwindling. His credit card debt was
474
00:33:15,650 --> 00:33:16,650
mounting.
475
00:33:17,930 --> 00:33:21,470
The defense then offers their response
in their opening remarks.
476
00:33:22,250 --> 00:33:24,790
Perez Olivo doesn't take an odd route
home.
477
00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:29,230
The gas station he was driving to was
one he uses all the time. They have the
478
00:33:29,230 --> 00:33:30,890
credit card statements to prove it.
479
00:33:32,110 --> 00:33:36,110
There is no such thing, they say, as a
superficial gunshot wound to the
480
00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:40,490
There are much safer places to shoot
oneself if the desire is an alibi.
481
00:33:42,650 --> 00:33:44,750
And he is not, in fact, broke.
482
00:33:44,950 --> 00:33:49,770
He has cash stashed outside the country
and continual access to more.
483
00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:53,030
And, of course, there's the 911 call.
484
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:56,930
Okay, take it easy. She got shot, you
said?
485
00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:59,590
I tried to punch the guy, and I was
stupid.
486
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,640
12 and a half minutes.
487
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,700
That's what they're saying. He faked it
for 12 and a half minutes.
488
00:34:05,660 --> 00:34:09,860
Given the ending now, or whatever the
award would have been, to sustain that
489
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:15,620
level for a full 12 and a half minutes
while on the phone, I think it would
490
00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:16,620
been hard to fake.
491
00:34:17,340 --> 00:34:22,360
Lastly, they offer their most compelling
evidence that Perez Olivo could not be
492
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:23,360
guilty of this crime.
493
00:34:24,020 --> 00:34:29,000
To a person, including siblings, which
to a Peggy sibling, testified.
494
00:34:29,449 --> 00:34:33,590
And the children testified that Carlos
was in love with Peggy.
495
00:34:34,909 --> 00:34:36,989
They all said that they were the perfect
couple.
496
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:42,090
No one who knew them believed that
Carlos could ever murder her.
497
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:48,909
When American Greed returns, Carlos
Perez Olivo tries to overcome the sins
498
00:34:48,909 --> 00:34:49,848
his past.
499
00:34:49,850 --> 00:34:52,469
Will it be enough to convince a jury?
500
00:34:52,889 --> 00:34:56,590
I don't know where you guys are from or
anybody else, but affairs is common
501
00:34:56,590 --> 00:34:57,590
everywhere.
502
00:34:57,850 --> 00:35:01,350
If people were to kill their wives
because they're having an affair,
503
00:35:01,350 --> 00:35:02,690
few wives around in the world today.
504
00:35:16,610 --> 00:35:22,350
In September 2008, Carlos Perez Olivo
stands trial for the murder of his wife
505
00:35:22,350 --> 00:35:28,220
Peggy. A murder the prosecution says
Perez Olivo committed for the nearly
506
00:35:28,220 --> 00:35:31,420
,000 of life insurance he stands to
gain.
507
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,740
Perez Olivo says that his wife was
killed by a stray bullet when he fought
508
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:39,740
an attacker in the backseat of his car.
509
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:45,080
But at trial, the prosecution presents a
vast array of circumstantial evidence
510
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:46,960
that disputes his story.
511
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:53,360
Evidence, for example, that Peggy was
shot from extremely close range,
512
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,400
style, and that she was facing forward
in her seat, meaning that she would have
513
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,480
had to stay asleep during the struggle
Perez Olivo claims happened in the back.
514
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:09,040
They also present the hospital's
surveillance video showing Perez Olivo's
515
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,040
arrival.
516
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:15,020
You could see that here is a man who was
perfectly turned out.
517
00:36:15,630 --> 00:36:21,510
He had a dress shirt that was neatly
tucked into his pants. He did not have
518
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:24,490
look of a man who was just in a life and
death struggle.
519
00:36:25,470 --> 00:36:29,270
But the prosecution's case eventually
comes back to the money.
520
00:36:29,850 --> 00:36:34,670
Perez Olivo apparently has no problem
taking $10 ,000 or $20 ,000 from poor,
521
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:35,970
desperate clients.
522
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:42,330
Why wouldn't he, prosecutors ask, take
nearly $900 ,000 when the opportunity
523
00:36:42,330 --> 00:36:43,330
arises?
524
00:36:43,870 --> 00:36:47,150
He was out of work. He couldn't practice
law anymore.
525
00:36:47,570 --> 00:36:49,610
He had no way to make an income.
526
00:36:49,870 --> 00:36:56,690
And the only way that he saw out of it
was these life insurance policies that
527
00:36:56,690 --> 00:36:57,850
belonged to his wife.
528
00:36:59,570 --> 00:37:05,430
And not only had the life insurance on
Peggy increased by more than $300 ,000
529
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:11,190
the year and a half before she died,
just three months before her death,
530
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:16,430
that's a $500 ,000 policy on himself,
laps for non -payment.
531
00:37:16,930 --> 00:37:22,990
It's very unusual for the person who
earns the more moderate income to be so
532
00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:29,110
highly insured. And the person who is
ostensibly the major breadwinner in the
533
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:33,010
family is so, by all accounts,
underinsured.
534
00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:38,050
Paris Olivo claims that he never knew
how much insurance his wife had.
535
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:42,680
And as for allowing his to lapse, it's
just a simple case of mismanagement.
536
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,740
We were careless, both of us, with
paperwork.
537
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,980
If they looked at the records, which I'm
sure they did, it wasn't the first time
538
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:52,380
I had let it lapse.
539
00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:01,400
What's more, Perez Olivo claims there's
ample evidence of his financial solvency
540
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,440
in the year between his wife's murder
and his arrest.
541
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:10,680
A time during which he never got a dime
from the life insurance policies.
542
00:38:11,940 --> 00:38:16,000
That house was rented. That was $5 ,500
a month.
543
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:18,700
It got paid.
544
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,240
I had bought a new car for my daughter
the year before when she started
545
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,780
The insurance got paid. The heating
bills got paid.
546
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,120
I mean, you know, if you're supposed to
have economic problems, you're supposed
547
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,980
to be going crazy, you're going to kill
your wife of 30 years.
548
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:39,800
You'd think there'd be something to back
that up, but there isn't.
549
00:38:41,220 --> 00:38:46,120
The source of all this money, according
to Perez Olivo, is some clients of his
550
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,640
from South America, who don't always
operate on the right side of the law.
551
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,780
I got them all on criminal charges.
552
00:38:53,060 --> 00:38:56,320
And they're concerned about coming to
the United States or leaving their
553
00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,000
countries because they're concerned that
there's a sealed indictment somewhere.
554
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,200
I had never wanted to work with them
because I knew that part of the proceeds
555
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,960
the things that they may be getting were
from other things.
556
00:39:08,260 --> 00:39:12,300
And I didn't want to be connected to
that. But once I had to find a way to
557
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:13,300
a living.
558
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Perez Olivo says he doesn't do anything
illegal.
559
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:23,860
But at trial, while claiming that he has
a source of income, the defense never
560
00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:25,920
offers evidence as to what it is.
561
00:39:27,220 --> 00:39:29,280
Keep in mind, it's not our burden to
prove anything.
562
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,560
It's the prosecution's burden to prove
that that was the motive. It's not our
563
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:41,340
job to disprove it. In reality, the
reason the details aren't shared may be
564
00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:46,820
it would require Perez Olivo to take the
stand, and the defense is afraid of
565
00:39:46,820 --> 00:39:48,040
what might be revealed.
566
00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:54,160
All the jury knew at that point in time
was that he had been disbarred. They
567
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,440
didn't know any of the reasons why.
568
00:39:57,720 --> 00:39:59,080
And if...
569
00:39:59,390 --> 00:40:01,610
Carlos testified they'd know all the
reasons.
570
00:40:02,130 --> 00:40:07,510
So it would add that now he's disbarred,
he cheats on his wife, and he cheats
571
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:08,510
his clients.
572
00:40:09,430 --> 00:40:12,730
Perez Olivo's shady past has come back
to haunt him.
573
00:40:13,210 --> 00:40:18,490
The man who once dazzled juries with his
speech now sits silent in his own
574
00:40:18,490 --> 00:40:19,490
murder trial.
575
00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:25,030
The case goes to jury Friday, October 3,
2008.
576
00:40:25,450 --> 00:40:28,430
By midday Saturday, they return with a
verdict.
577
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,100
Carlos Perez Olivo is found guilty of
murder.
578
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,420
Sentencing is eight weeks later.
579
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:43,020
His children, utterly convinced of their
father's innocence, pass a letter on to
580
00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,420
Christopher McClure to read to the judge
on their behalf.
581
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,820
My family has been destroyed.
582
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,020
We have no mother. Now we have no
father.
583
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:57,660
It is impossible to describe the anguish
each of us deals with on a daily basis.
584
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:04,180
Look, as a professional, as a mother, of
course my heart breaks for those
585
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:10,260
children. I can't imagine what it's like
to have lost your mother and to have a
586
00:41:10,260 --> 00:41:14,040
jury tell you that you lost your mother
at the hands of your father.
587
00:41:14,780 --> 00:41:19,860
Nevertheless, District Attorney Janet
DiFiori believes that Perez Olivo should
588
00:41:19,860 --> 00:41:22,180
serve the maximum time allowed by law.
589
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:28,760
And Judge Barbara Zambelli agrees,
calling Perez Olivo a master of deceit.
590
00:41:29,020 --> 00:41:30,940
She hands down the maximum sentence.
591
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,740
25 years to life.
592
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,660
Perez Olivo is currently working on his
appeal.
593
00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:42,260
And he is confident that his conviction
will be overturned.
594
00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:47,660
But for now, he sits waiting in the
Attica Correctional Facility in New
595
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,060
Marking time.
596
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,400
Yeah.
597
00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:01,620
Nothing that can, nobody can do anything
to me now that can hurt me because it's
598
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:06,480
already been, nothing will compare. I
survived that. I almost didn't, but I
599
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,440
have. If I got sentenced to seven, eight
years, why can't you get sentenced?
600
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:14,500
To some former clients, he is exactly
where he belongs.
601
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:21,140
After all, Perez Olivo's path from
disbarment to prison began with them
602
00:42:21,140 --> 00:42:23,400
in jail, waiting for him.
603
00:42:24,130 --> 00:42:25,490
We were thinking about our families.
604
00:42:25,770 --> 00:42:26,930
He didn't feel sorry for me.
605
00:42:27,570 --> 00:42:29,010
He didn't feel sorry for none of us.
606
00:42:29,810 --> 00:42:31,770
Did you want me to feel sorry for him?
607
00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:33,310
No.
608
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:34,630
For his family?
609
00:42:34,970 --> 00:42:35,970
No.
610
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:37,470
Not at all.
611
00:42:38,350 --> 00:42:39,690
After we went through?
612
00:42:40,610 --> 00:42:41,610
No.
613
00:42:43,050 --> 00:42:44,650
Happened to him because he was greedy.
614
00:42:47,130 --> 00:42:48,690
The market's hitting new benchmarks!
615
00:42:49,290 --> 00:42:52,790
Is it a bubble? Stay tuned to find out.
Plus, set up with the price of the pop.
616
00:42:52,910 --> 00:42:53,609
Me too.
617
00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:56,130
I'm finding profits in the pipelines
that move the quick stuff around.
618
00:42:56,350 --> 00:42:58,930
It's the stock that helps you fight
back. Don't move. Mad money's coming up
619
00:42:58,930 --> 00:42:59,930
next.
620
00:43:02,030 --> 00:43:03,290
Business intelligence.
621
00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:06,190
CNBC.
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