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Stephen Wilson, her winner. You either
work for your money or your money works
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for you.
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Investors even mortgage their homes to
join his fund.
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He would encourage them to, as he said,
unlock the dead equity in their homes.
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But investing with Wilson comes at a
very high price.
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It absolutely killed my grandmother.
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She was crying about this when her heart
burst and she died.
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But first.
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Larry Salander is one of the biggest
names in New York's art world.
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He was a big deal. People would look at
him and say, that's a really successful
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dealer. But collectors see red when he
swipes more than $100 million from their
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pockets. It's the biggest art world scam
that I've ever encountered.
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Families lose a fortune in priceless
art.
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I think that only a despicable person
with evil in their heart could do
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something like that.
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110, 120, 130 ,000. The world of fine
art is a multi -billion dollar industry
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where a single painting can fetch more
than 100 million dollars.
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New York is the capital of the art
world.
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And here, in a luxurious townhouse on
East 71st Street, Larry Salander runs
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of the most prestigious galleries in
town.
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This gallery was huge.
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It was palatial.
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Very large rooms, lots of marble, very
impressive, very expensive.
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You see him in the auction rooms
bidding.
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He seemed to have money. He was a first
-class art dealer.
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Salander's clients range from hedge fund
billionaires to entertainment industry
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A -listers, including Robert De Niro,
Bruce Springsteen, and John McEnroe.
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But in October 2007, amidst a flurry of
lawsuits, the gallery doors are locked.
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Several investors and clients claim
Salander is selling their paintings
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their knowledge and pocketing tens of
millions of dollars.
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To put it very simply, I think he was a
liar, a cheat, and a crook.
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The son of an antiques dealer, Larry
Salander grows up in a middle -class
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community on Long Island.
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Yeah, Larry came from humble beginnings
where he took care of his mom and
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sisters. His father died pretty young.
He didn't finish college, and this was
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the show of Larry's work. Salander is an
artist in his own right.
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As Ron Gersten, a family friend and
former employee, explains.
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He was a painter, and that's what he
cared about.
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This self -portrait was one he gave me
that I've had for probably 20 years.
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After working in his family's antique
business and other small galleries, he
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-found the Salander O 'Reilly Gallery on
the Upper East Side in 1976.
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The business plan is simple.
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Discover the next Picasso while he's
still unknown, promote his work, and
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them both rich.
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He didn't sleep at night. He ate, drank,
and breathed art.
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When he wasn't in the gallery selling
art, he was in his office reading about
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art and writing about art.
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He talked at the speed of a machine gun,
and it was very entertaining to be
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around him in that sense.
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A lot of collectors are men and
successful men. A lot of them are, you
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know, like stories, guy stories, and I
think Salander was very good at that.
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He specializes in the American
modernists, painters like Stuart Davis
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Ralston Crawford.
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Robert De Niro Sr., the father of the
famous actor, is another favorite.
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His passion for their work is obvious.
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He would argue and explode and get loud
and make his points strong about the art
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he believed in.
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Salander's instinct is usually right.
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By 1989, the successful gallery expands
to a mansion on East 79th Street.
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But even though he's a big -time art
dealer, Salander plays the role of a
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regular guy from Long Island.
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He was very gruff -speaking and contrary
to almost any profile you might
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think of in terms of what an art dealer
would look like, sound like, dress like,
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and act like.
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When he was in the nice digs, the Wall
Street people were able to look past his
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eccentricity and trust this guy's
success while I listened to him.
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The other people didn't mind the
eccentricities. He was an artist like
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were.
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Over the years, he developed close bonds
with numerous art collectors, including
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Dr. Alexander Perlman, a New York
physician.
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I remember one time we walked in, he
said, Hey, Doc, how are you? Larry would
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call him Doc. Hi, Doc.
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And it was very familiar, you know, with
Larry.
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would treat him like a dad, and my
father treated him like a son.
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Dr. Ellen Shander is Pearlman's
daughter.
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As a child, her father instills a deep
love of art in her and her sisters.
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When we were little, the artwork in our
house were our best friends.
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My dad would talk about them. He would
introduce the colors to the artists.
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Dr. Pearlman boasts an impressive
collection, including pieces by Monet,
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Cezanne, Picasso.
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His house in Queens is like a museum.
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He was very concerned that he had a
substantial collection in our house, and
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was a middle -class neighborhood, and he
was worried. So when anybody came in
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and they asked about the paintings, we
would always say, my dad paints.
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So the word in the neighborhood was,
your dad's a good painter.
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As Dr. Perlman approaches his 90th
birthday, Dr.
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Shander and her siblings talk to him
about his collection.
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which is worth about $2 million.
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And I think I pressed my dad with, you
know, you have a sizable collection.
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What would you like to do with it? And
it was at that point that he said he
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wanted Larry to take physical possession
of it so that we could have it safe.
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Dr. Perlman writes Larry Salander into
his will, which states that upon Dr.
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Perlman's death, Salander will hold the
art collection until the family can
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decide what to sell.
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This was a man he could trust. He said
nothing bad could happen, that the art
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was going to be in safekeeping, and that
we shouldn't worry at all.
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In 2004, Dr. Perlman dies from
pancreatic cancer at the age of 91.
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Larry Salander is by the family's side
at the funeral.
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He cried. He said, you know, your dad
was like a father to me, and I'm really
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sad, and I'll do everything I can to
help out Doc's kids.
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Larry meets the family at Dr. Perlman's
apartment and immediately gets to work.
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He proceeded to catalog every painting.
He created them that day.
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He gave us a certificate of insurance,
and he left with every painting and
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artwork that day.
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Next on American Greed, is Larry
Salander really a family friend or a
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con man?
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I started to get my voice louder and
insisting that I did want to see my
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paintings. Where were they? And they got
a security guard, a very big guy, and
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I'm a little person, and they basically
threw me out.
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Larry Salander is thriving in the New
York art world.
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After arriving on the scene in 1976, he
establishes one of the premier galleries
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on the Upper East Side.
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He's passionate about art, and he exudes
warmth with his clients.
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He was always outgoing, happy to see us,
very affable.
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Before he dies in 2004,
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Dr. Ellen Shander's father, Dr.
Alexander Perlman, entrusts his $2
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collection to Larry Salander for
safekeeping for his heirs.
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When I came to visit the artwork at his
gallery right after my dad died, he was
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very nice, very considerate, very calm,
very interactive.
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You know, I care about you.
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Around this time, Larry Salander begins
a big expansion of his business.
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So far, Salander has focused on scouting
lesser -known artists.
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Now, he wants to step into the arena of
the old masters.
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Old masters, kind of like a kitchen sink
category for things that could be over
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200 years old.
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French, German, Spanish, Italian.
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Salander's new business model requires
new space.
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He moves into an opulent neoclassical
mansion on East 71st Street.
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One of these beautiful 19th century
buildings with a big staircase,
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beautiful room, beautifully appointed.
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You walked in and you thought, oh my
God, this place is a palace.
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The rent, an astonishing $150 ,000 a
month.
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You've got to sell a lot of art to make
that kind of rent roll.
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Salander spares no expense in his
personal life either.
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In 2004, he buys a six -story Manhattan
townhouse for just under $5 million.
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He has another 66 -acre home in upstate
New York, complete with its own tennis
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court and baseball field for the kids.
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He took a private jet to go to his son's
baseball game one day, which was about
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a 20 -minute away affair.
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But moving toward old masters is a
highly questionable business decision.
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It requires an enormous bankroll,
frequent flights to Europe, and it's
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hard to find overlooked or undervalued
property.
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You can't pull rabbits out of half. You
can't discover, you know, an unrecorded
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Caravaggio painting.
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Most people thought he had really lost
the screw in his head.
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This dubious business decision, combined
with his massive overhead, means
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Salander is burning through cash.
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And people started buzzing about how
could Larry afford it, what was really
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going on. But he had the ability to put
a show on that was impressive and
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convincing. Larry was very convincing.
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Salander makes much of his money selling
other collectors' art on consignment.
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There would be an agreement for how
long.
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You have one month, two months, six
months.
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This is the price.
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And, you know, at the end of this
period, if this is not sold, you simply
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the work back to me.
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The piece over the fireplace is Milton
Avery. Art collector Maurice Katz has
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known Salander for 25 years.
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The art world is based upon faith and
your faith in what the dealer tells you
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the truth. And sometimes, as it turns
out in this case, what the dealer says
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wasn't the truth.
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In May of 2006, Katz sends a painting by
Alfred Maurer to the Salander O 'Reilly
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Gallery. He wants $125 ,000 for the
painting.
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Anything over that amount goes to
Salander.
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But Katz hears nothing about the
painting for nearly a year.
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Turns out, the painting had already been
sold.
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I found it out from another dealer in
New York. I said, I know where your
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painting is. It's sitting in the living
room of X in New York, who acquired it
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from Salander.
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Katz is shocked.
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Salander hasn't said anything about a
sale, and he certainly hasn't seen a
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check.
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I immediately called him. I emailed him.
I sent him a certified letter saying, I
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understand you've sold the painting, and
I want to check for $125 ,000 by, I
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gave him like five days.
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But Salander is elusive.
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A week later, he finally responds.
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Oh, I did sell the painting, and yes,
I've sold it on an installment basis,
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the first payment is due within 30 days.
It was like $12 ,000. I said, that's
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totally unacceptable.
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After Katz threatens to sue the gallery
and report him to the authorities,
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Salander agrees to pay him the $125 ,000
in two installments of $62 ,500.
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The check finally arrived maybe a week
later, so I took it over to the bank
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immediately, and of course it was NSF,
non -sufficient funds.
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Fed up and frustrated, he contacts the
Maine Antique Digest, an art industry
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publication, to share his story.
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A reporter tells him he isn't the only
one having problems with Salander, as
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dozens of other collectors are suing the
dealer for missing artwork and money.
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Stories appear in several publications
as the lawsuits multiply.
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He was cheating a lot of other people. I
mean, I had no idea of the extent of
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the fraud that he was engaged in.
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Salander is furious, thinking the bad
press could wreck his business.
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He fires off a threatening email to
Katz.
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And I was taking food out of his mouth
and his poor little children's mouths,
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and he was going to sue me for libel and
slander for millions of dollars because
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I had called him a crook.
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Dr. Ellen Shander hears the stories as
well and worries about her father's
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collection.
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So I called him on the phone. I said,
Larry, what's going on here? This is
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disturbing. He said, oh, no, it's just a
misunderstanding.
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And I said, you know, I want to come in
and I want to see my artwork.
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He said, no problem.
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She heads down to the gallery but is
given a rude welcome at the front desk.
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They said he was upstairs and he
wouldn't come down.
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He was on a very important phone call,
and I knew that there was really big
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trouble here. But my idea in my head was
that my paintings were somewhere in the
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gallery, and that I would find them. I
never, ever thought that they were gone.
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Up next on American Greed, his empire is
crumbling, but the Salanders aren't
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going down without a fight.
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His son tried to punch out one of the
cameramen. It was pretty strange.
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In the summer of 2007, Larry Salander
appears to be a successful Manhattan art
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dealer.
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Salander travels around the world by
private jet, owns multimillion -dollar
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homes, and runs a spectacular gallery
chock -full of priceless art.
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I don't think anyone ever questioned,
like, you know, gee, I wonder if that
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pays his bills on time. You don't think
about that when you're standing in a $40
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million mansion on the Upper East Side.
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But by fall, longtime clients are
starting to see through the masterful
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Salander has created. When lawsuits
claiming he owes money hit the press.
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I started hearing everybody talking in
New York about, yeah, yeah, we know
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Larry Salander.
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Salander is running two schemes.
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In some cases, he's selling paintings
and conveniently forgetting to send the
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proceeds to the consignors, artists, and
their estates.
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Victims include Robert De Niro, who
believes 12 of his father's paintings
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been stolen.
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He was simply stealing paintings from
estates or people that weren't keeping
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track of what was really in the gallery.
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Salander's also selling shares of
paintings, but the numbers don't add up.
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one notorious case, he sells shares
equivalent to 350 % of the painting's
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This scam is exactly what happens to
former tennis pro John McEnroe, a
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owner himself, and longtime friend of
Salinger.
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There's something kind of evil about it
in terms of, you know, you have someone
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in your confidence and then you fleece
them.
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And it's not just one. You know, it's
not like Robin Hood or something.
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He was really ripping everybody off.
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By October of 2007, Salander is facing
nearly 50 suits, claiming he owes $100
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million.
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Lawsuits were just literally like coming
into the courts, being filed every day.
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Amid all this turmoil, Salander plans
his largest exhibit yet, featuring
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Caravaggio's Apollo the Lute Player that
he claims is worth $100 million.
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He was finally putting together the show
that would culminate his entire great
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career. It would be the greatest show
ever done by a commercial gallery, and
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that he would be able to retire and pay
everybody he ever owed a dime to back.
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Art journalist Jud Tully interviews
Salander before the big exhibit.
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It was one of the most bizarre
interviews I've ever done.
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The dealer appears to be under
tremendous pressure as the art world
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his financial troubles.
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One of the employees had brought a fancy
silver tray with this bottle of scotch
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and glasses and put it down on the table
in front of us. And I'm going, now this
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is not cocktail hour.
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You know, and Larry is like taking a big
slug.
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It's a conspiracy.
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I'm being attacked.
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You know, this is chump change compared
to the millions of dollars I've made for
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every one of these ungrateful people.
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After this strange interview, Salander
prepares for his big comeback exhibit,
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but it's not meant to be.
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On the day of the opening, a judge
orders the gallery closed and the doors
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padlocked to prevent any more paintings
from being sold.
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Larry Salander is locked out of his own
gallery.
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The event sends shockwaves through the
art world, and his story is making
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headlines. His son tried to punch out
one of the cameramen that were showing
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marshals coming and closing the doors,
and his son just completely flipped out.
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A few weeks later, Salander declares
bankruptcy.
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Salander's friend and former employee,
Ron Gersten, blames the clients for not
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giving Salander enough time to pay them
back.
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He had over 25 -year relationships with
many of these people that made the
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claims against him, which made me
wonder, who's greedy here?
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The day he was in a tight bind and
needed them to give him a little leeway,
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of a sudden they ran and jumped on this
bandwagon against him.
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Clients are anxious to see what's left
in the gallery. They fear the worst.
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Forensic people started going into the
gallery, looking at all his records, and
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each person who had given him artwork on
commission was allowed to come in and
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look through the record.
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Dr. Ellen Shander discovers that at
least 30 of her father's paintings have
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sold off, including the major
Impressionist works.
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The entire collection is estimated at
over $2 million.
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We had no idea that he had sold them
years before.
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We had no idea the paintings weren't
even there.
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In Dr.
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Shander's case, some of her father's
stolen paintings have simply vanished.
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Apparently, Salander sold many paintings
with just a handshake.
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No one knows who owns them now.
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You can't even find where they went.
They just literally disappeared from the
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gallery. Other stolen paintings have a
paper trail.
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But even if they can be located, it can
be difficult to get the new owner to
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relinquish the painting.
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If it was stolen, then you found out
that some CEO in, you know, Walnut
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California owns your painting. I mean,
good luck getting it back because he's
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just going to call his lawyer.
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The Manhattan district attorney indicts
Salander on 100 counts, including grand
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larceny and fraud.
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And he's arrested in March 2009.
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Prosecutors say Salander swindles 30
victims out of $120 million.
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Primarily to finance his pursuit of the
old masters and to maintain his
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extravagant lifestyle.
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It's the biggest art world scam that
I've ever encountered.
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Though Salander is known as a rough and
tumble businessman, he apparently
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doesn't have the stomach for a prolonged
court battle.
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In March 2010, Larry Salander pleads
guilty to 29 counts of grand larceny and
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one count of scheming to defraud.
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Larry wanted to fight all the charges
against him. He didn't have any money
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lawyers.
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He didn't want to drag his family
through an ongoing process.
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Later that summer, victims have a chance
to address Salander at his sentencing
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hearing.
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When I gave my speech at the sentencing,
I looked at him and I said, what kind
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of a human being are you?
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How could you do that?
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And he never batted an eyelash.
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Larry Salander is sentenced to 6 to 18
years in state prison.
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As for the artwork left in the gallery,
much of it remains tied up in bankruptcy
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proceedings. Many victims believe
they'll never see it again.
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There was a credit committee that was
created to pay off Salander's debt,
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was substantial.
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And they confiscated our art, and they
said that should be used to pay off his
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debt.
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I understand that possibly I could buy
it from Salander's gallery, which is
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really disgusting.
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For many, the betrayal by a supposed
friend hurts more than the loss of
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John McEnroe is the godfather of one of
Salander's children.
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He's never spoken about the case.
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Dr. Ellen Shander's father was a friend
of Salander for 25 years.
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I feel so badly for my dad.
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I really do.
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That I can cry about.
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My dad's relationship with him, his
trust, his belief in him.
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I guess I'm angry in the sense that I
felt I've been personally violated
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he took advantage of, you know, trust
that we had put in him.
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I think that only a despicable person
with evil in their heart could do
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something like that.
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He's a con man of the umpteenth degree.
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Up next on American Greed, Stephan
Wilson is a youth pastor that makes a
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career change, complete with a new name
and a Lamborghini.
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Stephan Wilson, to me, had kind of a
dual personality in the early part of
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career. He seemed to be doing good work,
and then it seemed he turned to the
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dark side.
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Folsom, California, a small northern
California town best known for its
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made famous in the song Folsom Prison
Blues by Johnny Cash.
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Folsom is the hometown of another man in
black, Stephan Wilson, a self -made
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investment guru.
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And so that's what a hedge fund vehicle
allows you to do. It makes your money
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work for you. Wilson is a late arriver
to the world of high finance.
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taking up a career in investing in his
40s. But Wilson seems to have a knack
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his new trade.
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He lived in a lavish home, drove luxury
vehicles, seemed to be very successful.
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But looks are deceiving.
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The huge investment returns Wilson
promises are nothing more than smoke and
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mirrors. He never really made any money.
It was more or less, was he down a lot
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or was he down really a lot?
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The story of Stephen Wilson begins in
the mid -1980s, back when he is known by
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his given name of Stephen Wilson.
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He originally finds his calling in the
Christian Evangelical Church.
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He had been a youth minister at one
point. He had traveled to several
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and claimed to be doing some type of
charity work.
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In 1986, he found Shake the Nations, an
international youth mission group.
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Shake the Nations was a non -profit
ministry that he was president of. They
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would do summer revivals.
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But Wilson is more interested in
stealing identities than in saving
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He had a small staff of people working
for him, and he had gotten their Social
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Security numbers and their other
biographical data.
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And he took employees' information and
actually opened credit cards in their
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name, where he was making payments and
doing things for personal use.
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In December 2002, Shake the Nations is
shut down, and Wilson pleads no contest
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to forgery and theft of access card
information.
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Following a 90 -day jail sentence,
Wilson is back on the streets, but deep
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credit card debt.
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There was probably about $600 ,000 of
debt associated to Shake the Nations.
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After struggling financially for a few
years, he declares bankruptcy in 2005.
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Wilson decides to make a fresh start. He
even legally changes his name from
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Stephen K. Wilson to Stefan A. Wilson,
allegedly to get back to his German
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heritage. That's odd to me because he
changed his name from Stephen Karl Heinz
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Wilson, which sounds pretty German to
me, to Stefan Andre Wilson.
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which sounds a little more French to me.
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The U .S. Attorney's Office says Wilson
has an ulterior motive.
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I think the real reason he changed his
name was so that people would have
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difficulty pulling up his criminal
record and his prior bankruptcy, because
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that's not good for business.
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With a new name and a clean slate,
Wilson is free to pursue another money
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-making venture.
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In 2005 and then into 2006, he started
recruiting investors and pulling other
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people's money to invest.
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Wilson forms an investment fund, which
he names the Christians in Crisis, or
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Investment Fund.
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He produced some glossy brochures that
talked about his so -called hedge fund,
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made it appear that he had a long
history of investing.
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There are many problems with the fund,
starting with the name.
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Christians in Christ is actually a
legitimate nonprofit organization.
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He essentially, in our opinion, hijacked
the name to use for his investment
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fund. Potential investors in the CIC
fund are unaware of Wilson's past.
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We were calling him Steve. He said his
real name was Stephan, but he goes by
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Steve as a nickname.
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Real estate broker Tim Manke first hears
about Wilson through a family friend.
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During a visit to his office, Wilson
pledges him annual returns of 17 to 22
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percent.
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As a seasoned investor,
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Menke finds the promise suspicious, but
still somehow attractive.
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He asks Wilson for proof of his success.
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Being a little cynical, I said, OK,
well, you know, how much money do you
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in the funds? I want to see it.
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So he logged into one of his stock
accounts, and in that account, I think
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$5 .3 million at the time.
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Mankey takes the plunge and invests $100
,000 with Wilson.
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People have the choice of getting your
monthly payment every month or letting
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sit away and compound and grow.
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Mankey chooses to let it grow, or so he
thinks.
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Darlene Rickaby doesn't have that
luxury.
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Retired and living alone, she needs some
extra income.
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Well, I had had a stroke, and I was
worried about my money not being enough,
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lasting me the rest of my life.
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Wilson eases her concern, telling her he
can provide her with a monthly revenue
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stream.
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The pitch sounds appealing, and then
Wilson seals the deal by stressing his
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religious background.
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He told me that he had been a preacher
at one time, a Christian in Christ, that
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all just fell into what I believed in,
and it made me feel good, made me feel
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like I could trust this man.
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After Wilson promises her returns of 24
% a year, she withdraws $100 ,000
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from her savings and invests in the
fund.
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Later I got some paperwork and it said
18%. And so I called and asked about
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and he said, oh, if I told you 24, we'll
stay with that.
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It seems like Wilson just snaps his
fingers and changes the rate of return.
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Though it's a red flag, it's outweighed
by the monthly checks she requests that
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always arrive on time.
426
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:16,180
Every month I would take out between $2
,000 and $4 ,000 and he would send me a
427
00:30:16,180 --> 00:30:17,179
check for it.
428
00:30:17,180 --> 00:30:20,060
In the Sacramento area, word is
spreading.
429
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,660
Stephen Wilson can make you rich.
430
00:30:23,340 --> 00:30:24,900
But it comes at a cost.
431
00:30:25,820 --> 00:30:27,360
Next on American Greed.
432
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,640
It absolutely killed my grandmother.
433
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,460
There's no doubt in my mind. She was
crying about this when her heart burst
434
00:30:34,460 --> 00:30:35,460
she died.
435
00:30:41,990 --> 00:30:43,090
Wilson, California.
436
00:30:43,870 --> 00:30:48,690
Stefan Wilson is a former youth minister
who decides investing is a more
437
00:30:48,690 --> 00:30:50,110
lucrative career choice.
438
00:30:51,130 --> 00:30:56,890
Wilson's investors in the Christians in
Crisis, or CIC Fund, are supposedly
439
00:30:56,890 --> 00:30:58,490
earning huge returns.
440
00:30:58,890 --> 00:31:01,970
But he also appeals to their sense of
altruism.
441
00:31:02,980 --> 00:31:09,220
He indicated to some of the victim
investors that a portion of their funds
442
00:31:09,220 --> 00:31:10,360
go to charities.
443
00:31:12,980 --> 00:31:14,820
Appearances play a role as well.
444
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:20,240
Wilson now lives in a new million
-dollar home and counts a Lamborghini
445
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,060
Hummer among his many possessions.
446
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:25,980
People would see that he's doing really
well. He has these nice things, so he
447
00:31:25,980 --> 00:31:29,420
must be making way more than 24 %
because I'm getting my cut and I see how
448
00:31:29,420 --> 00:31:34,770
living. Until now, the CIC fund has used
word of mouth to get new investors.
449
00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:38,810
Now, Wilson's ready to take it to the
next level.
450
00:31:39,730 --> 00:31:45,690
He and his associates would rent a
meeting room, send out invitations via
451
00:31:45,910 --> 00:31:49,170
and would do presentations at these
seminars.
452
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:54,870
He also takes to the airwaves. That's
the first thing. Secondly, you either
453
00:31:54,870 --> 00:31:56,350
for your money or your money works for
you.
454
00:31:56,730 --> 00:32:00,050
and he gave this pitch, same pitch that
he probably gave at the presentations.
455
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:04,150
Any investment is a risk, and you have
to consider what your risk tolerance is,
456
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:07,590
and then you have to look at what you're
investing in. And if you feel confident
457
00:32:07,590 --> 00:32:10,530
in the people managing your money, then
you do pretty well.
458
00:32:12,230 --> 00:32:17,630
Sharon Manke's son, Tim Manke, is a
Wilson investor who has seen returns of
459
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:20,470
than 18 % a year, at least on paper.
460
00:32:21,610 --> 00:32:26,210
February 2007, she attends a Wilson
investment seminar.
461
00:32:26,810 --> 00:32:33,330
He came across as being low -key, and so
my first impression was, well, he's
462
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:38,070
like the numbers guy because he's kind
of that quiet accountant -type person.
463
00:32:38,370 --> 00:32:42,610
The fund's entry fee is steep, $100 ,000
minimum.
464
00:32:43,130 --> 00:32:47,940
In the boom real estate years... Wilson
has an idea to help cash -strapped
465
00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:51,320
investors get their hands on that 100
grand.
466
00:32:51,740 --> 00:32:58,380
He had a mortgage broker come and
specifically discuss how the investors
467
00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:03,980
take home equity loans on their
property. He would encourage them to, as
468
00:33:03,980 --> 00:33:07,600
said, unlock the dead equity in their
homes.
469
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Recently retired, Sharon has only $86
,000 in her savings account.
470
00:33:14,730 --> 00:33:18,590
But there's a place where she can unlock
some dead equity.
471
00:33:19,050 --> 00:33:23,110
Her elderly parents live on a 20 -acre
ranch worth nearly $3 million.
472
00:33:24,130 --> 00:33:27,030
She tells her parents about the CIC
fund.
473
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:33,030
My dad had retired 25 years earlier, and
so what he retired on really wasn't
474
00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:37,050
sufficient. And then they were also
hoping that I could retire and not work
475
00:33:37,050 --> 00:33:38,050
anymore, stay retired.
476
00:33:38,670 --> 00:33:43,770
Sharon and her parents meet Wilson at
his home to discuss investing in the CIC
477
00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:48,510
fund. Wilson tells them his fund is
immune to market fluctuations.
478
00:33:49,450 --> 00:33:50,990
He said, it's a hedge fund.
479
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:56,070
And my question was, what's a hedge
fund? Well, there's a bill to hedge
480
00:33:56,070 --> 00:34:00,670
it, so it doesn't matter whether stock
goes up or stock goes down, that you
481
00:34:00,670 --> 00:34:01,670
still make money.
482
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:07,720
Sharon's father, an 85 -year -old
retiree, is skeptical of all this talk
483
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,720
hedge funds.
484
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,380
I remember my father saying to him,
well, you know, I don't have $100 ,000
485
00:34:13,380 --> 00:34:17,460
the bank. And he did tell my father,
well, but you could go get a mortgage on
486
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:19,300
your property, which I believe is paid
for.
487
00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:25,179
Wilson convinces Sharon's parents to
take out a $500 ,000 loan against the
488
00:34:25,179 --> 00:34:26,179
ranch.
489
00:34:26,380 --> 00:34:30,820
The property has been in the family for
58 years and has been paid off for
490
00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:31,820
decades.
491
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:35,420
It was worth at that time about $2 .6,
$2 .8 million.
492
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,219
Wilson promises them a 22 % annual
return.
493
00:34:40,699 --> 00:34:44,440
Sharon and her parents receive nearly $9
,000 a month.
494
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,000
They were able to pay the mortgage that
they took out on the property and, you
495
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,620
know, have a nice amount left over to
help supplement their income. It made a
496
00:34:52,620 --> 00:34:53,620
difference for them.
497
00:34:54,940 --> 00:35:00,860
Darlene Rickaby, who first invested $100
,000, is pleased with Wilson's returns.
498
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:07,520
She increases her investment to $250
,000 and recommends the fund to her
499
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,520
Once I started getting paid every month,
my daughter decided to go ahead and
500
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,000
invest some money in, and she put a fair
amount in.
501
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:20,300
Next on American Greed, Wilson's wife, a
former stripper, now in the lap of
502
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:23,240
luxury, asks, where's the money coming
from?
503
00:35:23,630 --> 00:35:24,650
and drops a dime.
504
00:35:25,130 --> 00:35:30,190
For a long time, she probably believed
that he was doing this magic, but I
505
00:35:30,190 --> 00:35:31,510
she started to have her doubts.
506
00:35:43,570 --> 00:35:49,350
In 20 years, Stephan Wilson has gone
from youth minister to hedge fund owner.
507
00:35:50,310 --> 00:35:55,240
Touting his supposedly religious
background, Wilson persuades 80 people
508
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,240
invest with him.
509
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,460
Many borrow hundreds of thousands of
dollars against their homes for the
510
00:36:00,460 --> 00:36:01,460
privilege.
511
00:36:02,020 --> 00:36:05,180
The people who were in the fund who were
getting paid out every month, they got
512
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:07,680
their checks by clockwork, boom, every
month they got their money.
513
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,140
The fund is great for Wilson, too.
514
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:15,560
He purchased a Lamborghini. He bought a
$90 ,000 yacht.
515
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,280
He purchased a diamond ring.
516
00:36:18,860 --> 00:36:21,080
He traveled. He traveled quite a bit.
517
00:36:21,630 --> 00:36:27,470
But just when it seems nothing will
break his amazing run of profits, in
518
00:36:27,750 --> 00:36:30,890
an unlikely figure brings it all
crashing down.
519
00:36:32,130 --> 00:36:37,230
Remarkably, it isn't a wary investor who
blows the whistle on what looks like a
520
00:36:37,230 --> 00:36:38,230
Ponzi scheme.
521
00:36:38,330 --> 00:36:42,510
His wife actually brought the case to
our attention.
522
00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:44,450
Wilson's wife.
523
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,300
who lives in the million -dollar home,
drives the fancy cars, and wears the
524
00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,680
diamond jewelry, isn't convinced of her
husband's money -making acumen.
525
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:59,740
I think for a long time she probably
believed that he was doing this magic,
526
00:36:59,740 --> 00:37:01,700
I think she started to have her doubts.
527
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,440
And when her marriage turns sour, those
doubts become stronger.
528
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:12,660
In July 2007, Wilson's wife brings CIC
documents to the FBI.
529
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:18,100
And it became obvious pretty quickly
that this was probably a Ponzi scheme.
530
00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:21,760
The documents tell a tale of brazen
fraud.
531
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:27,240
He kept purporting through the monthly
statements that everything was okay,
532
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:33,340
in fact it was glaringly not okay. He
continued the scheme by telling people,
533
00:37:33,340 --> 00:37:36,520
lying to them, of his success rate.
534
00:37:36,780 --> 00:37:41,740
Wilson's records also reveal staggering
investment incompetence.
535
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,640
He brought in about $14 million.
536
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:51,100
He invested about $6 million of that and
had breathtaking loss.
537
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,100
In a relatively short period of time, he
managed to lose about 98 % of that
538
00:37:57,100 --> 00:37:58,100
money.
539
00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:04,180
While $6 million is dissipated in the
stock market, another $6 million is
540
00:38:04,180 --> 00:38:06,020
on his luxurious lifestyle.
541
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,660
Yeah, I guess, you know, I paid for the
guy to have a Lamborghini, which, you
542
00:38:10,660 --> 00:38:14,120
know. I never had one, but evidently he
got one with my money, so.
543
00:38:15,180 --> 00:38:18,420
Wilson's fraud is exposed, and so is he.
544
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,660
Far from being the squeaky clean church
-going hedge fund manager, he's actually
545
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:27,160
a proven criminal with an ex -stripper
for a wife.
546
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,920
No, and I wouldn't have invested with
him if I'd known about his wife either.
547
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,720
But I didn't find out about her until it
was too late.
548
00:38:35,340 --> 00:38:38,560
But Wilson's wife is now the law's best
friend.
549
00:38:38,890 --> 00:38:43,930
As she tells the feds, he's been
stockpiling cash and crafting an exit
550
00:38:45,230 --> 00:38:50,110
He was exploring different ways to leave
the country, various countries to go
551
00:38:50,110 --> 00:38:51,110
to.
552
00:38:51,150 --> 00:38:54,950
Places he could go that didn't have
extradition, that's where we could go
553
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:58,310
him and get him. Places where he could
go and, you know, find work.
554
00:38:58,610 --> 00:38:59,930
Places where he could hide money.
555
00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:04,070
Armed with this information, the feds
haul him in.
556
00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:06,250
In February 2008,
557
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,820
Stephan Wilson is arrested for running a
fraudulent investment program.
558
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:16,040
The FBI says he steals $13 million from
80 victims.
559
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,160
In one fell swoop, his investors go from
easy street to the poorhouse.
560
00:39:23,180 --> 00:39:25,680
Totally, totally shocked. I just thought
this can't be.
561
00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:30,140
My heart stopped. I just was in shock. I
literally fell down on the ground where
562
00:39:30,140 --> 00:39:32,580
I was and was just totally shocked.
563
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:38,260
Aside from the monthly dividend checks
some have already received, investor
564
00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:40,220
money is almost all gone.
565
00:39:41,020 --> 00:39:44,640
I kept thinking, surely they'll get into
it and they'll find out that there's
566
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,960
some mistake somewhere.
567
00:39:46,700 --> 00:39:49,760
That it'll all be cleared and we'll all
get our money back.
568
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:54,380
For the Mankey family, three generations
are devastated.
569
00:39:55,060 --> 00:40:00,000
We had to immediately make a lot of
changes in our life. We had to move.
570
00:40:00,220 --> 00:40:01,880
We had to sell off some of our cars.
571
00:40:02,570 --> 00:40:05,810
Tim's mom, Sharon, can no longer pay her
bills.
572
00:40:06,210 --> 00:40:11,190
My mom had nowhere to live, had no money
and no job, so she ended up moving into
573
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:13,390
a room in our house for us, you know.
574
00:40:14,130 --> 00:40:16,470
Tim's grandparents are hit the hardest.
575
00:40:16,690 --> 00:40:21,750
They lose the $2 .6 million ranch that
had been in the family for more than 58
576
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:22,750
years.
577
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:29,750
My mother just gasped, and my dad was,
you could tell he was very
578
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:31,830
upset about it.
579
00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:33,290
They were just devastated.
580
00:40:33,890 --> 00:40:38,050
They pulled all that equity out, sank it
into CIC, and lost it all.
581
00:40:38,590 --> 00:40:45,450
And as a result, you have three
generations who lost their homes,
582
00:40:45,450 --> 00:40:46,450
family farm.
583
00:40:46,970 --> 00:40:51,410
Remarkably, both Elliot and Laverne
Clausen, who had been healthy their
584
00:40:51,410 --> 00:40:55,490
lives, die suddenly within months of
learning about the fraud.
585
00:40:56,090 --> 00:41:00,610
In August 2008, Laverne Clausen dies of
an aneurysm.
586
00:41:01,740 --> 00:41:03,300
It absolutely killed my grandmother.
587
00:41:03,580 --> 00:41:08,160
There's no doubt in my mind she was
crying about this when her heart burst
588
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,160
she died.
589
00:41:09,380 --> 00:41:13,120
Eight months later, her husband, Elliot,
dies of a heart attack.
590
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,240
The family believes that this was stress
-related, too.
591
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:22,640
They had been married 64 years, and for
them to lose their home that they had
592
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,020
lived in for over 60 years was very
devastating to them.
593
00:41:27,370 --> 00:41:34,130
On March 17, 2009, Stephan Wilson pleads
guilty to wire fraud and filing
594
00:41:34,130 --> 00:41:35,730
false income tax returns.
595
00:41:36,450 --> 00:41:42,570
A judge orders him to pay $12 million in
restitution and sentences him to 19
596
00:41:42,570 --> 00:41:44,230
years in federal prison.
597
00:41:45,170 --> 00:41:49,470
I'm glad to see he didn't walk, but I
think it should have been a longer term.
598
00:41:49,470 --> 00:41:52,830
mean, he destroyed a lot of lives. I
think he should have been in jail for
599
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:53,830
rest of his.
600
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,640
Wilson's victims now must rebuild their
lives.
601
00:41:58,940 --> 00:42:02,740
Not an easy task in what's supposed to
be the golden years.
602
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:04,280
You know, it's survival.
603
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:07,940
What do I do that at 63 now I have no
retirement?
604
00:42:08,940 --> 00:42:12,920
I thought I would be retired and I could
stay home and relax and play with my
605
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:16,540
granddaughters. I had their money in
that. It was part of that money, too,
606
00:42:16,540 --> 00:42:18,180
college money. I've lost that, too.
607
00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:23,080
And I thought it would just be a nice
retirement, and it's not. Now I have to
608
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,240
worry about trying to find work.
609
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:30,200
Instead of having the fancy lifestyle we
always saved and put away and came back
610
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,120
to all that saving and put away, it was
worthless. It's all gone just like that.
611
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:40,560
Next Wednesday on American Greed, a two
-faced lawyer has pleasure on his mind.
612
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,000
Like that, he walks away with $20
million.
613
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,020
American Greed Wednesday starts 8
Eastern with an all -new episode at 10,
614
00:42:48,020 --> 00:42:49,100
on CNBC.
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