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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:10,160 In this episode of American Greed, Mark Dreyer, high -powered lawyer. 2 00:00:10,460 --> 00:00:13,180 You can smell the money, and that's why the clients come here. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,680 Bon vivant. 4 00:00:15,780 --> 00:00:18,340 When Mark stepped into a party, Mark was there to party. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Con man. 6 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:22,680 You have a guy who's actually pretending to be other people. 7 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:27,020 He steals more than $700 million from hedge funds. 8 00:00:27,700 --> 00:00:29,600 They were vast pots. 9 00:00:30,350 --> 00:00:34,450 Of money with billions and millions, you know, overflowing the side. 10 00:00:34,950 --> 00:00:37,090 Because that's where the money is. 11 00:00:37,770 --> 00:00:42,830 This was a man who had always felt deeply empowered that this type of 12 00:00:42,830 --> 00:00:45,230 was his birthright because he was so smart. 13 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,220 New York, New York, December 2008. 14 00:01:03,660 --> 00:01:08,300 Though the financial markets are in freefall, super lawyer Mark Dreyer 15 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:10,100 to be floating above it all. 16 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:16,040 He's the sole owner of Dreyer LLP, a 500 -person law firm with offices on Park 17 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:17,040 Avenue. 18 00:01:17,340 --> 00:01:22,900 He has yachts, priceless art, beach homes. 19 00:01:23,820 --> 00:01:29,400 This lavish lifestyle that he embraced was part of his way of trying to 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,980 new clientele to his law firm, but evidently that wasn't enough. 21 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,200 On December 2nd, the news ripples through the highest levels of New York's 22 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,200 community. 23 00:01:41,380 --> 00:01:47,500 Mark Dreyer has been arrested in Toronto for impersonating a client and later 24 00:01:47,500 --> 00:01:52,560 charged with selling $700 million worth of phony notes. 25 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,300 He is a thief. 26 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,520 He's a high -class thief, well -educated, one that put forward a very 27 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,880 front. But it all turns out he wasn't. 28 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:15,500 Mark Dreyer's story begins just 20 miles from midtown Manhattan in the Long 29 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,860 Island community known as Five Towns. 30 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,620 It was not the glitziest place in the world, but the kids were all very well 31 00:02:23,620 --> 00:02:27,900 educated. It was sort of a new frontier, Kennedy generation, we're going to grow 32 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:30,460 up and change the world kind of existence for him. 33 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,660 Kenneth Gross goes to high school with Mark Dreyer. 34 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,420 Mark was the big man on campus. He was the president of the student council, 35 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:46,240 voted most likely to succeed. He was handsome. He dated the prettiest girl 36 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,000 was smart and had... 37 00:02:48,250 --> 00:02:49,930 really the world on its platter. 38 00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:57,470 From Lawrence High School, Dreyer goes off to Yale University and then Harvard 39 00:02:57,470 --> 00:02:58,470 Law. 40 00:02:58,590 --> 00:03:04,510 After graduation, Dreyer joins Rosenman and Collin, where he's known as a tough 41 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:05,830 and aggressive litigator. 42 00:03:07,660 --> 00:03:13,180 He had a brilliant career, educated at Harvard, educated at Yale, and was 43 00:03:13,180 --> 00:03:18,940 very highly regarded. I remember one appellate division judge telling me that 44 00:03:18,940 --> 00:03:22,420 was perhaps the finest appellate lawyer that ever appeared in front of him. 45 00:03:23,140 --> 00:03:27,720 After several years of the big law firm grind, it's apparent that Dreyer is 46 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:28,720 unsatisfied. 47 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,620 There are a couple things you can do when you're a young lawyer in New York. 48 00:03:32,620 --> 00:03:37,000 can either try and make partner or you can try and branch off and start your 49 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:42,160 business. And it became clear after a while that Mark Jarre was going to be 50 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,120 of those lawyers who was going to go off to lead his own operation one day. In 51 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,040 fact, he wanted it so badly that one friend I talked to told me that he was 52 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,940 always well -liked but not necessarily trusted, that he liked being admired 53 00:03:53,940 --> 00:03:56,000 than he actually liked being liked. 54 00:03:57,150 --> 00:03:58,310 Around 1996, 55 00:03:59,030 --> 00:04:02,890 Dreyer goes out on his own and quickly gains a very important client. 56 00:04:04,370 --> 00:04:07,110 Billionaire real estate developer Sheldon Solo. 57 00:04:08,510 --> 00:04:14,050 The son of a Brooklyn bricklayer, Solo works his way up as a midtown developer. 58 00:04:15,570 --> 00:04:19,529 In 1972, he builds his magnum opus. 59 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,420 His big signature building where he has an office is the sloped building at 9 60 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:29,880 West 57th Street, which has the big orange number 9 outside with huge 61 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,280 Park views from his offices. 62 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,520 Solo, in addition to being a billionaire, has a reputation for being 63 00:04:37,860 --> 00:04:41,080 In Dreyer's eyes, he's the perfect client. 64 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,180 He and Mark Dreyer were sort of kindred spirits. They both were aggressive. 65 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,280 Sheldon Solo loved frivolous lawsuits almost as much as Mark Dreyer did. 66 00:04:50,750 --> 00:04:54,510 And once they got together, the lawsuits practically never stopped flying. 67 00:04:54,890 --> 00:05:00,130 In one notorious case, Sheldon Solo wants to buy a beach house that's for 68 00:05:00,130 --> 00:05:02,050 in the Hamptons. There's one problem. 69 00:05:02,390 --> 00:05:07,050 Another man has first dibs on the sale. That doesn't stop Dreyer from filing 70 00:05:07,050 --> 00:05:10,130 suit, saying the house should really go to his client. 71 00:05:10,850 --> 00:05:17,590 He was one of the great spinners of BS in midtown Manhattan. He could 72 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:19,830 sit there and tell you, no. 73 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,360 John F. Kennedy was killed by aliens from Pluto. 74 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Here's how they did it. And at the end, you know it's BS, but he 75 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,980 has almost made you believe it. And that was his genius, if he had one, in the 76 00:05:34,980 --> 00:05:41,240 courtroom, that he could take these ostensibly frivolous cases and almost 77 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,260 them, but he rarely did in the end. 78 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:49,100 In the Hamptons Beach House case, Solo and Dreyer keep losing and appealing. 79 00:05:49,690 --> 00:05:50,810 Losing and appealing. 80 00:05:51,730 --> 00:05:55,350 They lose a dozen lawsuits over the next ten years. 81 00:05:56,950 --> 00:06:01,650 The federal judge, who ultimately dismisses the case with prejudice, says 82 00:06:01,650 --> 00:06:07,270 Solo's company has had so many bites at the apple, it has swallowed the core. 83 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:15,670 But the point here was to keep the money flowing from Solo and to sustain his 84 00:06:15,670 --> 00:06:16,599 law firm. 85 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:20,180 and to continue to have a high profile in the legal world, which is what he 86 00:06:20,180 --> 00:06:21,180 wanted. 87 00:06:21,540 --> 00:06:27,340 Being king of the frivolous lawsuit has made Mark Dreyer at least $6 million. 88 00:06:28,540 --> 00:06:33,800 But there's still annoying dissatisfaction at the heart of Dreyer, 89 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,800 tells writer Brian Burrow in a Vanity Fair profile. 90 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,520 He tells this amazing story of an epiphany he had. 91 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,020 On the beach at West Hampton out on Eastern Long Island where all the 92 00:06:47,020 --> 00:06:48,020 people live. 93 00:06:49,900 --> 00:06:53,420 He had a house out there, but it was inland and he'd always wanted a beach 94 00:06:53,420 --> 00:06:59,240 house. And he was on a long walk on the beach and he walked up to this mansion 95 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:04,020 and felt in his heart that he wanted one too. Wanted one on the water. 96 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:11,740 And for a certain level of New Yorker, the Hamptons home is one of the ways. 97 00:07:12,350 --> 00:07:14,610 a certain type of New Yorker measures themselves. 98 00:07:15,490 --> 00:07:19,390 And Dreyer says right then and there he made two decisions. 99 00:07:20,630 --> 00:07:24,210 He was going to have a house on the beach, and he was going to do it by 100 00:07:24,210 --> 00:07:26,250 dramatically expanding his law firm. 101 00:07:28,590 --> 00:07:31,810 The problem, of course, is he didn't have the money to do it either. 102 00:07:32,990 --> 00:07:37,250 After this aha moment, Dreyer comes up with a new model for a law firm. 103 00:07:37,790 --> 00:07:39,750 Dreyer LLP, he'll call it. 104 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:42,020 And it will be like no other firm. 105 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:47,520 Well, most law firms are going to be sort of a trickle -down philosophy. So 106 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,300 the top are the partners, and the partners make the money, and that 107 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:53,080 down to the associates who help those partners make the money. 108 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,060 But Dreyer was different. 109 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:56,860 Dreyer was willing to reward anybody. 110 00:07:57,180 --> 00:08:00,080 If you brought in business, you were going to get a piece of the action. 111 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:03,980 Mark Dreyer will be the sole owner of Dreyer LLP. 112 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:08,280 The other lawyers he calls partners won't actually have any equity. 113 00:08:08,780 --> 00:08:13,180 What he offers instead is a generous salary, commissions on new business, and 114 00:08:13,180 --> 00:08:15,240 freedom from the headaches of running a law firm. 115 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:17,160 But there's a catch. 116 00:08:18,140 --> 00:08:23,780 The only person who had control of the finances was Mark Dreyer himself. 117 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:28,760 He had control of the finances, he had control of the books, and he had insight 118 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:33,559 into every deal that was going on. So in some sense, it was a monarchy. 119 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,059 It's good to be king. 120 00:08:36,809 --> 00:08:40,490 But Dreyer's law firm expansion will cost upwards of $10 million. 121 00:08:42,190 --> 00:08:44,530 This was a guy who didn't have a fraction of that. 122 00:08:44,750 --> 00:08:49,690 And so he thought and thought and thought, how do I do this? 123 00:08:50,290 --> 00:08:55,250 And the answer he ultimately came up with was, I'll steal the money. And 124 00:08:55,250 --> 00:08:56,250 what he did. 125 00:08:57,710 --> 00:09:02,650 If you looked around in 2004, the obvious place to get money was hedge 126 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:10,320 They were enormous. They were vast pots of money with billions and millions, you 127 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,600 know, overflowing the side. 128 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,980 Somehow he had to get some of the hedge fund money. The only thing he could do 129 00:09:15,980 --> 00:09:17,340 is sell them something. 130 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:18,980 But sell them what? 131 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:24,160 Dreyer comes up with a plan to sell notes, IOUs, to hedge funds. 132 00:09:24,420 --> 00:09:26,440 But who will be the issuer of these notes? 133 00:09:27,180 --> 00:09:32,120 He decides Sheldon Solo, one of his best clients and a billionaire developer, 134 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,520 will create the perfect cover story. 135 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,980 He actually had worked for Solo Realty for a number of years. He was able to 136 00:09:39,980 --> 00:09:44,380 pull on the experience that he had had with Solo to present himself as a 137 00:09:44,380 --> 00:09:49,160 representative of that firm in offering these fake promissory notes. 138 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,680 In 2002, Dreyer puts his plan into action. 139 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:59,120 He fakes a note issued by Solo Realty for $20 million. 140 00:10:00,260 --> 00:10:05,100 When it's finished, Dreyer is confident he can sell the note to a hedge fund. 141 00:10:05,860 --> 00:10:10,660 It was easy, he said. He found a big hedge fund in Connecticut, explained to 142 00:10:10,660 --> 00:10:14,520 them that Mr. Solo was trying to raise money for an expansion. 143 00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:16,740 Not a lot of questions were asked. 144 00:10:17,020 --> 00:10:21,820 You know, papers were signed. And like that, he walks away with $20 million. 145 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,300 Solo, of course, knows nothing of the note. 146 00:10:27,540 --> 00:10:32,400 The $20 million goes straight into Dreyer LLP for office space and the 147 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,399 top lawyers. 148 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,520 Dreyer tells himself that that is a one -time deal. 149 00:10:36,940 --> 00:10:41,920 But of course, if you've ever read any story about any embezzler or any 150 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,660 ostensibly lawful person who engages in fraud, once is never enough. 151 00:10:47,610 --> 00:10:52,430 Over the next two years, Dreyer issues $200 million worth of notes, selling 152 00:10:52,430 --> 00:10:54,490 to hedge funds in Manhattan and Connecticut. 153 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:59,650 What he would do is he would set up fake email addresses. He would send notes on 154 00:10:59,650 --> 00:11:04,430 fake letterhead, letterhead that was allegedly from the auditor of Solo 155 00:11:04,450 --> 00:11:09,410 So he set up basically a whole scam. Everything was fake, the email 156 00:11:09,650 --> 00:11:12,550 the stationery, and even Dreyer himself. 157 00:11:13,650 --> 00:11:19,730 Indeed. Dreyer's law firm is a Potemkin village designed to fool the whole world 158 00:11:19,730 --> 00:11:21,430 into thinking he's a big shot. 159 00:11:22,370 --> 00:11:27,530 He opens offices in New York at 499 Park Avenue, one of the premier addresses 160 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:32,150 right on the corner of 59th Street and Park Avenue. He fills the office with 161 00:11:32,150 --> 00:11:34,390 kinds of artwork from, you know, Andy Warhol. 162 00:11:35,470 --> 00:11:40,270 Former associate Michael Patrick remembers a conversation he has with one 163 00:11:40,270 --> 00:11:41,270 Dreyer's partners. 164 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,800 We're in this conference room and he looks around and he goes, yeah, look at 165 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,720 this. Gorgeous furniture. 166 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Look at the flat screen TVs on the wall. Look at that lobby. There's no other 167 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,579 firm like it. 168 00:11:52,580 --> 00:11:54,880 Gorgeous. You can smell the money. 169 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,620 And that's why the clients come here. 170 00:11:57,580 --> 00:12:02,520 The flowers that he had, he had flowers that cost $9 ,000 a month. I'm not 171 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,640 exaggerating. I said, Mark, unless these flowers are made of pure gold, you're 172 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:07,640 getting ripped off. 173 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:12,820 And as for the buyers of Dreyer's notes, the hedge funds, They're not asking too 174 00:12:12,820 --> 00:12:13,820 many questions. 175 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:18,700 One thing Mark Dreyer could always do, it's been a story, a believable story. 176 00:12:18,860 --> 00:12:21,460 And that's what he did for these hedge funds. And the fact was, these people, 177 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:25,580 they had more money than God. They had more money, literally, than they knew 178 00:12:25,580 --> 00:12:29,480 what to do with. They were looking for anything to invest in. I mean, a little 179 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,740 debt from a big New York realtor, well, that seemed just normal. 180 00:12:34,180 --> 00:12:37,060 SLP, it's what everyone was doing in 2004. 181 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,640 The market is doing fine, for now. 182 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:44,520 And thanks to these phony notes, Dreyer has the life of his dreams. 183 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:50,740 Not one, but two beach houses in the Hamptons, an Aston Martin, and an $18 184 00:12:50,740 --> 00:12:51,760 million yacht. 185 00:12:52,580 --> 00:12:56,540 One wonders how he thought he would get away with it. The only way he would ever 186 00:12:56,540 --> 00:13:02,100 get away with it all is if the law firm ultimately was profitable enough to 187 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:04,100 start paying off these loans. 188 00:13:04,540 --> 00:13:06,600 Next, Dreyer's life implodes. 189 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:11,900 It's almost like, you know, the caricature of the bandit with the money 190 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:13,420 bag sort of scurrying out the door. 191 00:13:18,580 --> 00:13:23,000 By 2008, Mark Dreyer has built the law firm of his dreams. 192 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,840 From their offices on Park Avenue, the 270 lawyers of Dreyer LLP work on 193 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,220 everything from patents to entertainment law. 194 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,920 Celebrity clients include Jay Leno. 195 00:13:36,430 --> 00:13:40,610 Former New York giant Michael Strahan and the rock band Wilco. 196 00:13:40,870 --> 00:13:45,090 But all in all, a great firm. You walk in and it's like you smell the success. 197 00:13:45,230 --> 00:13:47,090 You can see the money is spent. 198 00:13:47,350 --> 00:13:51,350 And you think, well, if they can afford this, then they must be really good. 199 00:13:51,970 --> 00:13:55,970 At Dreyer, the motto is work hard, play harder. 200 00:13:56,650 --> 00:14:01,290 The lavish parties on Dreyer's 123 -foot yacht are the stuff of legend. 201 00:14:03,530 --> 00:14:07,950 He was out there dancing almost all night. Very energetic, very fun. No 202 00:14:07,950 --> 00:14:12,150 what song came on, he was, you know, any genre, he was out there dancing it up. 203 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:17,450 Because when Mark stepped into a party, Mark was at a party. Mark was there to 204 00:14:17,450 --> 00:14:18,450 enjoy himself. 205 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:21,790 You could tell. He kind of liked it. I'm a rock star. I walk in, this is my 206 00:14:21,790 --> 00:14:23,090 firm, I'm going to have a great time. 207 00:14:23,650 --> 00:14:28,770 So I think every party was very different from a normal law firm party. 208 00:14:29,470 --> 00:14:32,810 But there's a mystery at the heart of Mark Dreyer's law firm. 209 00:14:33,589 --> 00:14:36,530 Where exactly is all the money coming from? 210 00:14:37,510 --> 00:14:41,330 We sat down one day, a bunch of us, and just kind of thought, well, let's think, 211 00:14:41,410 --> 00:14:42,950 how much money are all these people earning? 212 00:14:43,170 --> 00:14:47,970 How much are they bringing in? And we just couldn't make it work for us. But 213 00:14:47,970 --> 00:14:52,050 where the money was coming from became a source of gossip for everyone. 214 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:55,610 I think he's doing this, I think he's doing that. But there was no definite 215 00:14:55,610 --> 00:14:57,770 answer to our questions. 216 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:00,550 As Warren Buffett says... 217 00:15:00,890 --> 00:15:04,350 It's only when the tide goes out that you learn who's swimming naked. 218 00:15:04,630 --> 00:15:09,790 And like a low tide, the financial meltdown of 2008 will leave Mark Dreyer 219 00:15:09,790 --> 00:15:10,870 running for cover. 220 00:15:11,230 --> 00:15:15,430 Good evening. Not since the Great Depression has the federal government 221 00:15:15,430 --> 00:15:19,810 in to help a failing financial institution in this country the way they 222 00:15:19,810 --> 00:15:25,950 this past weekend, brokering a deal for JPMorgan Chase to step in and take over 223 00:15:25,950 --> 00:15:27,110 Bear Stearns. 224 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:36,920 something like panic on Wall Street. At that point, no one wanted to pay or 225 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,340 invest in anything. 226 00:15:38,580 --> 00:15:43,620 All anyone, every bank, every hedge fund, every you and me and mom and dad, 227 00:15:43,780 --> 00:15:47,620 essentially wanted to put money in a savings account, hold your breath, and 228 00:15:47,620 --> 00:15:48,900 wait for it to be over. 229 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:52,260 Nervous investors are looking for the exit. 230 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,940 I think Trier would probably say that he was desperate. 231 00:15:56,460 --> 00:15:59,460 and that at this point the whole operation was coming apart at the seams 232 00:15:59,460 --> 00:16:01,180 that he really needed more paper signed. 233 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:05,700 Like in any Ponzi scheme, he needed to issue more debt to pay off some of the 234 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:07,840 older notes and keep the whole thing going. 235 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:12,780 As summer turns to fall, the pressure almost becomes unbearable. 236 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:18,620 There was mere panic last week as investors drove down stock prices. 237 00:16:19,100 --> 00:16:25,520 In October, Dreyer is late in repaying $115 million worth of notes to a hedge 238 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,520 fund. 239 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,500 The head of the fund wants to meet Solo's CEO, look him in the eye, and 240 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:34,500 a repayment plan. 241 00:16:35,180 --> 00:16:38,600 Well, Mark Dreyer can't do that because he's defrauding Solo. Solo doesn't know 242 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,400 anything about it. So how on earth do you come up with a face -to -face 243 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,580 with the CEO of Solo Realty? 244 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,480 He came up with a brilliant idea. 245 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:49,640 You create your own CEO. 246 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,320 Dreyer turns to a man named Kostakovich. 247 00:16:55,790 --> 00:17:01,330 Kovachev is a law firm client who was sued by the SEC in an unrelated Ponzi 248 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:02,330 scheme. 249 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:07,790 It appears that he was the Dreyer client with the most malleable morals, the one 250 00:17:07,790 --> 00:17:11,829 that Dreyer could go to and say, you know, I need an Igor to my Dr. 251 00:17:12,069 --> 00:17:13,069 Frankenstein. 252 00:17:14,089 --> 00:17:20,270 On October 15, 2008, the two men approached Solow's office on 9 West 57th 253 00:17:20,270 --> 00:17:23,329 Street, one of the highest -rent buildings in all of Manhattan. 254 00:17:24,910 --> 00:17:29,350 And this is one of the most amazing moments in the history of white -collar 255 00:17:29,350 --> 00:17:34,550 fraud. But he staged a meeting in the offices of Sheldon Solo without Sheldon 256 00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:37,710 Solo or anyone there knowing that the meeting was going to happen. 257 00:17:38,090 --> 00:17:40,930 Two foxes are going inside the henhouse. 258 00:17:42,410 --> 00:17:43,790 Dreyer will play himself. 259 00:17:44,250 --> 00:17:46,590 Kovachev will play Solo's CEO. 260 00:17:47,810 --> 00:17:51,470 On the 45th floor, they commandeer a conference room. 261 00:17:53,399 --> 00:18:00,000 install Kovachev at the end of a table, and play host to a hedge fund. 262 00:18:01,820 --> 00:18:07,320 And Costa Kovachev sat there and impersonated the CEO of Solar Realty. 263 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,900 think we can pay back this debt in the next six months. I said, see, no 264 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,740 You know, it was this type of... And the hedge fund bought it. 265 00:18:14,500 --> 00:18:18,740 The fund agrees to give Dreyer some time to come up with the money. 266 00:18:19,360 --> 00:18:20,600 It's a huge coup. 267 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:26,930 It's almost like a caricature of the bandit with the money over his bag sort 268 00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:30,570 scurrying out the door. It was almost that vivid. 269 00:18:31,170 --> 00:18:34,910 But Dreyer knows just how close he is to getting caught. 270 00:18:35,910 --> 00:18:41,830 The amazing thing was we later learned the actual CEO of Solo Realty walked by 271 00:18:41,830 --> 00:18:45,650 the conference room that day, saw them in there, and kind of wondered, well, I 272 00:18:45,650 --> 00:18:48,270 wonder what Mark's doing today, but he had a meeting and he kept walking. 273 00:18:49,390 --> 00:18:53,890 If he had gone in, he would have seen that Kostakovich was pretending to be 274 00:18:53,890 --> 00:18:54,789 in this meeting. 275 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:55,790 But he didn't. 276 00:18:56,010 --> 00:19:00,330 Next on American Greed. With the financial crisis deepening, everyone on 277 00:19:00,330 --> 00:19:03,850 Street is more skeptical. Will Mark Dreyer survive the scrutiny? 278 00:19:09,410 --> 00:19:10,590 November 2008. 279 00:19:12,030 --> 00:19:15,310 Publicly, Mark Dreyer is one of New York City's top attorneys. 280 00:19:16,570 --> 00:19:20,330 Privately. He is juggling a multi -million dollar Ponzi scheme. 281 00:19:21,010 --> 00:19:25,510 He impersonates well -known clients of his law firm to sell fake securities to 282 00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:26,550 wealthy hedge funds. 283 00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:31,790 For six years, Dreyer has been enjoying the fruits of his success. 284 00:19:32,770 --> 00:19:38,470 But in the fall of 2008, with near panic on Wall Street, the bills come due. 285 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,680 You know, it's debatable. 286 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:47,600 Dreyer might actually have gotten away with this at some point, except that one 287 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,940 of the hedge funds involved that had bought one of these notes decided that 288 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:56,500 wanted to reduce its risk, and it wanted to sell half the note to another hedge 289 00:19:56,500 --> 00:19:57,500 fund. 290 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:02,720 Solo Realty, Dreyer's former client, is supposedly backing the note. 291 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,000 And to assure the first hedge fund that this is a safe investment, Dreyer gives 292 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,900 them an auditor's report claiming that Solo is a financially sound company. 293 00:20:11,540 --> 00:20:15,100 But when the second fund looks at the paperwork, they become suspicious. 294 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:20,240 A fund representative makes a call to Solo's auditing firm, Burden LLP. 295 00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:25,540 One of the partners of the auditing firm believes his signature has been forged. 296 00:20:25,940 --> 00:20:29,380 He calls the firm's lawyer, Thomas Manicero. 297 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:35,600 It was evident to me in virtually a nanosecond that what we were looking at 298 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:36,700 fabricated reports. 299 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:42,780 There's a logo here that makes reference to Burden being a member of Horwath 300 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:44,160 International Association. 301 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:50,360 I knew that Burden had not been a member of that association for at least four 302 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,220 years prior to the date of this letter. 303 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,240 That was easily a flag to me. 304 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,620 also significant, which jumped right off the page to Stewart. As soon as he saw 305 00:21:00,620 --> 00:21:03,940 this, this is not my signature. This is not the way I signed. 306 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,920 Manicero confirms the hedge fund's suspicions. 307 00:21:08,580 --> 00:21:12,280 I told them, look, what you're looking at are clearly forged documents. 308 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,980 Their response was, well, thank you very much. You just saved us $25 million. 309 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:23,000 But Manicero wonders where the fake reports came from. He looks for clues in 310 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,000 report. 311 00:21:24,030 --> 00:21:28,550 We were going through the materials. We saw a confidentiality agreement. It was 312 00:21:28,550 --> 00:21:32,790 addressed to Kira of Mark Dreyer as the representative of the solo entity. 313 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:36,910 He calls Dreyer to ask him about the forged documents. 314 00:21:37,570 --> 00:21:44,450 I said, listen, we're looking at some clearly fabricated, forged audit 315 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:48,250 reports, and this is a major concern for us because the accountant's audit 316 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:50,770 report is, in a sense, some kind of a currency. 317 00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:54,930 Dreyer dodges the question and talks in circles. 318 00:21:55,530 --> 00:21:59,450 His response to our questions, from my perspective, was not coherent. 319 00:21:59,830 --> 00:22:01,230 It was sort of rambling. 320 00:22:01,850 --> 00:22:06,970 A lot of what I would term double -dutch didn't make a lot of sense to me. 321 00:22:07,450 --> 00:22:12,430 After the call, Manicero doesn't know who's behind the forgery, but he knows 322 00:22:12,430 --> 00:22:13,710 needs to report it to the Fed. 323 00:22:15,090 --> 00:22:18,670 He meets with the U .S. Attorney's Office in the Southern District of New 324 00:22:20,110 --> 00:22:22,070 The next day, he gets a call. 325 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:26,250 Hi, Tom, this is Mark Dreyer. Can we talk? 326 00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:29,790 It really took me by surprise. 327 00:22:30,050 --> 00:22:32,690 The last person in the world I thought would be calling me. 328 00:22:33,670 --> 00:22:36,370 Manicero says he needs to call Dreyer right back. 329 00:22:36,830 --> 00:22:39,210 He quickly dials the U .S. Attorney's Office. 330 00:22:40,270 --> 00:22:43,690 Said, this fellow's just called me. How do you want me to handle this? 331 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:48,450 Within 15 minutes, the feds have arranged to tap Manicero's phone. 332 00:22:49,620 --> 00:22:52,060 Only then does he call Mark Dreyer. 333 00:22:52,860 --> 00:22:57,020 He said, who's talking here? And I said, well, you and I are talking. In fact, 334 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:59,520 you're going to do a lot of talking because I got a lot of questions. 335 00:22:59,940 --> 00:23:03,620 And then he asked me, quite surprisingly, he said, is this 336 00:23:03,620 --> 00:23:08,760 recorded? I took a quick gulp and said, not by me, being very honest. 337 00:23:09,709 --> 00:23:14,150 And that was good enough for him. And then he proceeded to say, well, look, 338 00:23:14,150 --> 00:23:17,710 know, I've done something very bad here. I don't want you going to law 339 00:23:17,710 --> 00:23:21,410 enforcement because my family's going to get hurt. My firm is going to get hurt. 340 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:23,890 There's a lot of innocent people that would get hurt over this. 341 00:23:24,810 --> 00:23:29,210 Dreyer proceeds to explain his scheme, but swears he has only done it this one 342 00:23:29,210 --> 00:23:32,250 time. The conversation leaves Manicero chilled. 343 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:36,030 I was numb. I hung up from them. The phone rang about. 344 00:23:36,510 --> 00:23:40,550 15, 20 seconds later was the investigator from the U .S. Attorney's 345 00:23:40,550 --> 00:23:45,610 basically saying, wow, you know, do you believe that? We can't believe what we 346 00:23:45,610 --> 00:23:46,449 just heard here. 347 00:23:46,450 --> 00:23:48,570 You know, great job. Thank you very much. 348 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:53,810 So I decided to just pack up my bags and go home for the day because I wasn't 349 00:23:53,810 --> 00:23:56,330 going to be able to focus on getting anything else done that day. 350 00:23:57,990 --> 00:24:02,450 At the U .S. Attorney's Office, Jonathan Streeter heads an investigation into 351 00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:03,450 Dreyer's fraud. 352 00:24:03,870 --> 00:24:07,930 Over the next few weeks, he asks Manicero to keep the conversation going 353 00:24:07,930 --> 00:24:13,550 Dreyer. And so we had recorded conversations of him trying to convince 354 00:24:13,550 --> 00:24:15,270 accounting firm not to go to the authorities. 355 00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:21,930 Meanwhile, at the Park Avenue offices of Dreyer LLP, Dreyer is getting tense. 356 00:24:23,530 --> 00:24:27,050 He started screaming at the top of his lungs, what the stock market doing? 357 00:24:27,330 --> 00:24:31,010 And it was so loud that my office two doors down. 358 00:24:31,450 --> 00:24:33,190 But it really, I mean, it was. 359 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:35,040 abrasively loud. 360 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:40,300 He knows Manicero is on to him, and as the economy nosedives, hedge funds are 361 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:41,320 calling in their investments. 362 00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:44,000 He's running out of time and money. 363 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:49,580 All he could do was delay, deny, and obfuscate, and just say, I'll tell you 364 00:24:49,580 --> 00:24:53,020 more, I'll tell you more, but I've got to go off to, you know, the Caribbean. 365 00:24:53,060 --> 00:24:55,340 I've got to go off to the Gulf. 366 00:24:56,360 --> 00:25:00,220 It was at that point that Dreier realized his time could probably be 367 00:25:00,220 --> 00:25:01,460 days rather than months. 368 00:25:02,260 --> 00:25:06,080 Dreyer later confesses that he considers making a run for it. 369 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:12,300 As one of his Hail Mary passes, he took a trip to Abu Dhabi to try to raise 370 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,840 money from some Arab investors. 371 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:20,340 And one night he describes standing outside in the desert air saying, I'm a 372 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,840 white man with $100 million in cash. 373 00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:24,600 What if I just run? 374 00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:31,510 But Dreyer has kids back in the States and can't fathom a life on the run. 375 00:25:32,890 --> 00:25:34,610 He returns to New York. 376 00:25:35,270 --> 00:25:40,250 On the day after Thanksgiving, he schedules one last call with Manicero. 377 00:25:40,890 --> 00:25:45,650 And during the course of that conversation, it was evident that he was 378 00:25:45,650 --> 00:25:46,449 to unravel. 379 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:50,910 And he was telling me, you know, come on, we have to be able to settle this. 380 00:25:50,910 --> 00:25:52,410 can settle this matter. 381 00:25:53,450 --> 00:25:56,490 You know, I'm saying, well, what are we settling? I don't understand. 382 00:25:56,750 --> 00:26:00,150 Explain to me. Well, I'll pay you and your clients some money and, you know, 383 00:26:00,150 --> 00:26:03,490 can money. Money is what you use to settle things. I was sitting there and 384 00:26:03,490 --> 00:26:07,630 just saying to myself, you know, there's this is a bribe. 385 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:10,290 The U .S. attorney's office has heard enough. 386 00:26:10,510 --> 00:26:14,430 Their investigation has revealed just how far Dreyer's scheme reaches. 387 00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:19,670 What we uncovered over time as the case unfolded was that. 388 00:26:20,270 --> 00:26:23,910 He had sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth of these notes, about $700 389 00:26:23,910 --> 00:26:26,050 million worth of notes, all told. 390 00:26:28,010 --> 00:26:32,490 Streeter asks Manicero to schedule one last face -to -face meeting with Dreyer 391 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:34,810 the following week to confirm his identity. 392 00:26:35,470 --> 00:26:38,770 The stage is set to bring Dreyer in once and for all. 393 00:26:39,730 --> 00:26:41,270 But they won't get their chance. 394 00:26:43,050 --> 00:26:48,330 Up next on American Greed, Dreyer skips town in a last -ditch effort to save his 395 00:26:48,330 --> 00:26:49,330 crumbling scheme. 396 00:26:49,660 --> 00:26:55,660 The events that finally led to Dreyer's fall were classic Keystone Cops farce. 397 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,320 December 1st, 2008. 398 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:06,340 Mark Dreyer's world is closing fast around him. Dreyer has been selling fake 399 00:27:06,340 --> 00:27:11,260 securities to hedge funds to support his lavish lifestyle and prestigious law 400 00:27:11,260 --> 00:27:16,360 firm. But the collapse of Bear Stearns and other major institutions has sent 401 00:27:16,360 --> 00:27:18,640 hedge funds scrambling to get their money back. 402 00:27:19,070 --> 00:27:20,450 And Dreyer can't pay. 403 00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:25,430 It's just like what Warren Buffett says, when the tide goes out, suddenly you 404 00:27:25,430 --> 00:27:28,430 get to see who's really in trouble, and Mark Dreyer needed to pay the bills. 405 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:33,390 To make matters worse, a bankruptcy attorney at Dreyer's firm puts in a 406 00:27:33,390 --> 00:27:38,570 request for $38 million being held in one of the firm's secure escrow 407 00:27:38,930 --> 00:27:42,630 But the money, which is never supposed to be touched, is missing. 408 00:27:43,490 --> 00:27:46,850 The attorney calls Dreyer and says, hey, do you know anything about this missing 409 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:47,850 escrow money? 410 00:27:48,190 --> 00:27:54,210 Dreyer did because he stole it. And he had to come up over a weekend with a sum 411 00:27:54,210 --> 00:27:56,290 of money to repay this lost money. 412 00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:59,390 Dreyer needs to make a sale fast. 413 00:28:00,210 --> 00:28:03,890 The next day, he boards a private jet headed for Toronto, Canada. 414 00:28:04,550 --> 00:28:10,150 His plan is to impersonate a representative of the Ontario Teachers' 415 00:28:10,150 --> 00:28:12,690 Fund, a former client of his law firm. 416 00:28:13,550 --> 00:28:18,110 and sell one last bogus security to a hedge fund executive. 417 00:28:19,330 --> 00:28:25,870 He was attempting at the time to sell about a $44 million note to 418 00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:28,210 a hedge fund located in New York. 419 00:28:28,410 --> 00:28:33,310 And that hedge fund had insisted on having a face -to -face meeting with a 420 00:28:33,310 --> 00:28:38,310 representative of this pension plan located in Canada that was supposedly, 421 00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:40,390 according to Mark Dreyer, guaranteeing the note. 422 00:28:41,290 --> 00:28:42,810 It's a brazen plan. 423 00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:47,460 But it's similar to something he's already attempted in the offices of 424 00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:48,460 Solo. 425 00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:55,080 Justice Kovachev has done for him in the past. He's going to do it himself this 426 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,080 time. 427 00:28:57,540 --> 00:28:59,760 Everything goes smoothly at first. 428 00:29:01,060 --> 00:29:06,060 Dreyer meets with attorneys at the pension fund, including a man named 429 00:29:06,060 --> 00:29:07,060 Patfield. 430 00:29:08,940 --> 00:29:13,700 Before leaving, he asks for Padfield's business card and returns to the lobby. 431 00:29:14,780 --> 00:29:20,060 He then asks if he can use a conference room while he waits for his private jet. 432 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:27,280 In reality, he's waiting for Howard Steinberg, an executive with Fortress 433 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,720 Fund, to arrive for his appointment. 434 00:29:32,620 --> 00:29:35,720 So for the better part of an hour, Dreyer is pacing the lobby. 435 00:29:36,460 --> 00:29:40,280 In Toronto, waiting for this Steinberg to come in. 436 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,120 And when he does, when he comes off the elevator, Dreyer immediately grabs and 437 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,320 says, Oh, Mr. Steinberg, so glad I can see you. We're just going to do it right 438 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,000 here in this conference room where he'd been sitting. 439 00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:56,520 Offering his new business card, Dreyer claims to be Michael Padfield. 440 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,820 He hurriedly signs the papers needed to sell his fake note. 441 00:30:03,020 --> 00:30:06,340 and offers to escort Steinberg back to the elevators. 442 00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:08,940 But Steinberg is suspicious. 443 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,780 Dreyer seems nervous and in a hurry to get rid of him. 444 00:30:15,780 --> 00:30:21,120 Steinberg thinks twice and says he wants to wait in the lobby, claiming he's 445 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,220 having lunch with a friend. 446 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,820 A jittery Dreyer abruptly leaves. 447 00:30:27,820 --> 00:30:32,510 His mark remained in there and actually asked the person at the front desk, if 448 00:30:32,510 --> 00:30:36,730 that person he was just meeting with was Michael Padfield and the person working 449 00:30:36,730 --> 00:30:38,230 the front desk said, no, it wasn't. 450 00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:46,990 Back on his private jet, Dreyer gets a phone call from the hedge fund. 451 00:30:48,290 --> 00:30:52,630 Gets a call from one of the top guys at Fortress saying, we have a problem. 452 00:30:53,130 --> 00:30:57,530 Someone is impersonating one of the Canadians at the hedge fund. 453 00:30:57,730 --> 00:31:00,330 Can you help us? Do you know anything about it? And Dreyer's like... 454 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520 That's a surprise. I'll look into it. 455 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:06,380 Dreyer is at a crossroads. 456 00:31:07,220 --> 00:31:13,040 He can either fly back to New York and deny the whole incident or return to the 457 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:17,080 pension fund offices and attempt to explain himself. 458 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,860 And he later told me when he sat down, he was 90 % sure if he went back to the 459 00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:27,880 offices of the pension fund that he probably would never get out, that 460 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,920 bad would happen. 461 00:31:30,190 --> 00:31:33,810 And that's actually what happened. By the time he got back, the police had 462 00:31:33,810 --> 00:31:34,810 already been called. 463 00:31:35,290 --> 00:31:36,930 And they put him in handcuffs and took him away. 464 00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:44,950 News of Dreyer's arrest for impersonation reaches the offices of 465 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:45,950 next day. 466 00:31:46,230 --> 00:31:47,630 You could tell something was up. 467 00:31:47,910 --> 00:31:49,990 Secretaries were huddling. There were whispers. 468 00:31:50,270 --> 00:31:52,650 And I just walked out. I said, what is going on? 469 00:31:53,210 --> 00:31:54,890 And they said, Mark Dreyer's been arrested. 470 00:31:55,510 --> 00:31:58,830 I'm at my computer trying to do my job. People are coming up crying. 471 00:31:59,580 --> 00:32:02,120 attorneys are crying, pacing. 472 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:05,400 This is disgusting. This is disgraceful. What do we do? 473 00:32:06,340 --> 00:32:09,940 I said, I don't know. He's the one who's the equity partner. 474 00:32:10,140 --> 00:32:12,040 He's the one who pulls the strings. 475 00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:15,060 He's the one who knows all the books and all the 50 accounts. 476 00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:20,680 And at that moment, Dreyer is helping himself to the firm's escrow accounts 477 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,680 last time. 478 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:27,860 From a jail cell in Canada, Dreyer transfers $10 million from a client's 479 00:32:27,860 --> 00:32:30,720 account. to one of his personal bank accounts. 480 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:37,880 If you talk to people in the legal community, he committed a cardinal sin 481 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,680 of this. He was stealing money from clients' escrow accounts. 482 00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:43,720 And you just don't do that as a lawyer. 483 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680 The next day, Dreyer is released on bail. 484 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,540 On the evening of December 7th, he arrives at LaGuardia Airport, where the 485 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:55,289 are waiting. 486 00:32:55,290 --> 00:32:59,730 He is arrested and charged with securities and wire fraud, officially 487 00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:02,710 Dreyer LLP a ship with no captain. 488 00:33:03,130 --> 00:33:06,850 And, you know, immediately, in a matter of minutes, it throws the whole firm's 489 00:33:06,850 --> 00:33:08,310 existence into question. 490 00:33:09,130 --> 00:33:14,850 He is accused of impersonating executives to sell fake IOUs to 13 491 00:33:14,850 --> 00:33:15,850 hedge funds. 492 00:33:16,010 --> 00:33:21,470 Raking in almost $740 million, Dreyer has been one of the biggest names in 493 00:33:21,470 --> 00:33:22,470 -collar crime. 494 00:33:23,050 --> 00:33:24,050 Until now. 495 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:32,220 Uptown, Bernie Madoff is arrested for masterminding the largest Ponzi scheme 496 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:33,220 history. 497 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,160 Some lawyers who know Dreyer suspect that he's jealous. 498 00:33:37,660 --> 00:33:41,200 That's got to hurt. Because if you think about it, if Madoff hadn't been there, 499 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:46,400 if Madoff hadn't occurred, Mark Dreyer would be the Ponzi. You know, he is the 500 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,740 guy in financial fraud. 501 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,800 Look what he did. And by the way, he did it by impersonating people. 502 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:54,680 Forging documents. I mean, this was a really great scheme. 503 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,120 A guy like Bernie Madoff comes along. 504 00:33:58,980 --> 00:34:04,080 Meanwhile, a skeleton staff meets to decide what will become of Dreyer LLP, 505 00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:08,659 Dreyer's prized law firm, now in the hands of a bankruptcy trustee. 506 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,000 They have no choice but to dissolve the firm. 507 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,199 December 08 was bad enough financially out there in the market. 508 00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:20,780 To lose your job at that moment is... 509 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,400 bad enough. But then it's, you know, it's the holidays, and your family's 510 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,500 to support you, and you're trying to be still upbeat. 511 00:34:28,820 --> 00:34:31,659 But yet, it's hard to fake that. 512 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,659 Eleven days later, Kostya Kovachev, the man Dreyer is hired to carry out his 513 00:34:36,659 --> 00:34:38,820 impersonations, is also arrested. 514 00:34:39,580 --> 00:34:44,840 And Dreyer meets with defense attorney Gerald Shargell to plan his next move. 515 00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:51,580 He never intended to contest the charges. He recognized that it was over 516 00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:55,960 willing to accept responsibility, and it was just a matter of getting through 517 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,120 this and getting as reasonable a sentence as possible. 518 00:35:01,540 --> 00:35:07,240 It is during this time that Dreyer makes an unusual move, inviting Vanity Fair 519 00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,860 reporter Brian Burrow into his home for an interview. 520 00:35:10,490 --> 00:35:14,450 Having been released on house arrest, a disheveled dryer welcomes Burrow at his 521 00:35:14,450 --> 00:35:15,990 $10 million midtown apartment. 522 00:35:16,490 --> 00:35:17,990 It's a surreal scene. 523 00:35:19,630 --> 00:35:20,650 He looked terrible. 524 00:35:21,110 --> 00:35:24,630 He's red -faced, he's unshaven, he's uncombed. 525 00:35:24,990 --> 00:35:29,770 The apartment is this beautiful, large, $10 million, sun -drenched apartment. 526 00:35:29,990 --> 00:35:33,770 The most amazing thing was that there were these hooks, naked hooks on all the 527 00:35:33,770 --> 00:35:38,490 walls. And, of course, all his vaunted art collection had all been sold off or 528 00:35:38,490 --> 00:35:39,490 given away. 529 00:35:40,010 --> 00:35:44,670 Over the next two days, Dreyer delivers a surprisingly candid interview. 530 00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:51,650 This was a man who had always felt deeply empowered that this type of 531 00:35:51,650 --> 00:35:56,270 was his birthright because he was so smart. Because from boyhood, everyone 532 00:35:56,270 --> 00:36:01,870 said he was a golden boy. He felt like it was his, that it was natural. And I 533 00:36:01,870 --> 00:36:03,170 think the deepest motivation. 534 00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:07,370 was the fact that by his early 50s, he was not that success. 535 00:36:07,930 --> 00:36:11,430 And he deeply, desperately wanted to be a success. 536 00:36:12,110 --> 00:36:15,650 But others who know Dreyer have a hard time buying it. 537 00:36:16,410 --> 00:36:19,770 You went to a great law school. You had the world at your fingertips. You just 538 00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:22,350 got caught up in it. You didn't think, well, I should protect myself. 539 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:27,690 I'll get out of it. And, you know, I'm happy with just making a million and a 540 00:36:27,690 --> 00:36:29,630 half a year, two million off of a law firm. 541 00:36:30,310 --> 00:36:31,310 Ken Gross. 542 00:36:31,710 --> 00:36:35,350 who remembers Dreyer back when he was the big man on campus at Lawrence High 543 00:36:35,350 --> 00:36:38,790 School, doesn't accept his explanation either. 544 00:36:39,550 --> 00:36:46,530 To somehow get you into crime and to risk all that you've achieved is so 545 00:36:46,530 --> 00:36:51,830 inexplicable. And I just have to believe in his own mind when he thinks back on 546 00:36:51,830 --> 00:36:53,670 it that it's very hard to explain. 547 00:36:56,490 --> 00:37:02,070 On May 11, 2009, Dreyer pleads guilty to all eight counts against him, including 548 00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:06,230 conspiracy, securities fraud, wire fraud, and money laundering. 549 00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:11,890 On July 13, he returns to court to face sentencing, where he appears resigned to 550 00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:12,890 his fate. 551 00:37:13,630 --> 00:37:20,410 He was, first and foremost, a broken man. He was, you know, lump and quiet 552 00:37:20,410 --> 00:37:22,530 and noncombative. 553 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,940 The government recommends a term of 145 years in prison, just five years shy of 554 00:37:28,940 --> 00:37:29,940 Madoff's sentence. 555 00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:31,380 Dreyer is hoping for less. 556 00:37:32,540 --> 00:37:35,100 The judge settles on a 20 -year sentence. 557 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,740 20 years is a very long sentence, but compared to some of the other sentences 558 00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:43,360 that have been meted out and compared to what the government wanted the sentence 559 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:48,620 to be, we felt that we did the best that we could under the circumstances. 560 00:37:49,710 --> 00:37:55,730 The judge also orders Dreyer to pay $389 million in restitution to his victims. 561 00:37:56,730 --> 00:38:03,030 His homes, art collection, and even office furniture are all put up for 562 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:09,710 But with most of his gains sunk into maintaining the law firm, victims will 563 00:38:09,710 --> 00:38:12,590 likely see only a small portion of their money returned. 564 00:38:14,650 --> 00:38:19,430 Still, Some argue his victims could have done more to protect themselves. 565 00:38:20,410 --> 00:38:24,510 In the financial markets, people know what audit reports are. They have to 566 00:38:24,510 --> 00:38:27,850 what audit reports are. It took me a nanosecond to look at these things and 567 00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:28,910 no, this is wrong. 568 00:38:29,490 --> 00:38:31,410 You've got to do your work. You've got to ask the questions. 569 00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:38,690 In addition to the hedge funds, Dreyer's victims include the hundreds of 570 00:38:38,690 --> 00:38:40,890 attorneys and paralegals who worked for him. 571 00:38:41,730 --> 00:38:46,660 Hedge funds are victims, sure. But the real victims here, were the employees 572 00:38:46,660 --> 00:38:50,680 came in every day and they gave everything to that firm. 573 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,060 It was a great job. 574 00:38:53,660 --> 00:39:00,040 It's just so much effort put into building this place. I loved it. And I 575 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,360 very loyal. And you just feel good about yourself. I did it. Look at that. I cut 576 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:08,960 costs. I did this. And then you're left with nothing. But I try to remain strong 577 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,580 because I want my children to be proud of me. 578 00:39:14,510 --> 00:39:20,030 In March 2010, Kostakovichev is sentenced to four years in prison for 579 00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:21,030 in Dreyer's scheme. 580 00:39:21,570 --> 00:39:27,150 Dreyer serves his time at Sandstone Prison in northern Minnesota, far from 581 00:39:27,150 --> 00:39:29,870 family, and a world away from Park Avenue. 582 00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:37,410 His release date is October 2026, when he'll be 75 years old. 583 00:39:38,410 --> 00:39:41,570 Our lives go on, and we do different things. 584 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,420 And this will maybe be forgotten one day. That's true. 585 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:50,220 But you have to wonder how many people's lives were really affected down the 586 00:39:50,220 --> 00:39:54,440 line, unwillingly, because of one man's decisions for greed. 587 00:39:55,660 --> 00:39:57,200 And now what? 588 00:39:58,260 --> 00:40:00,800 We're all left just to forget about it, wish him well? 589 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:03,680 You know, because he says he's sorry? 590 00:40:06,220 --> 00:40:07,940 I don't. I don't wish him well. 53742

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