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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,730 --> 00:00:08,550 In this episode of American Greed, Stephan Wilson says his investment fund 2 00:00:08,550 --> 00:00:09,590 surefire winner. 3 00:00:09,890 --> 00:00:11,990 You either work for your money or your money works for you. 4 00:00:12,310 --> 00:00:15,790 Investors even mortgage their homes to join his fund. 5 00:00:16,110 --> 00:00:21,810 He would encourage them to, as he said, unlock the dead equity in their homes. 6 00:00:22,110 --> 00:00:25,350 But investing with Wilson comes at a very high price. 7 00:00:25,810 --> 00:00:27,270 It absolutely killed my grandmother. 8 00:00:27,510 --> 00:00:31,050 She was crying about this when her heart burst and she died. 9 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:37,320 But first, Larry Salander is one of the biggest names in New York's art world. 10 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,700 He was a big deal. People would look at him and say, that's a really successful 11 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:47,160 dealer. But collectors see red when he swipes more than $100 million from their 12 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:52,240 pockets. It's the biggest art world scam that I've ever encountered. 13 00:00:53,260 --> 00:00:56,120 Families lose a fortune in priceless art. 14 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,900 I think that only a despicable person with evil in their heart could do 15 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:01,900 something like that. 16 00:01:13,620 --> 00:01:20,060 At 110, 120, 130 ,000. The world of fine art is a multi -billion dollar industry 17 00:01:20,060 --> 00:01:24,340 where a single painting can fetch more than a hundred million dollars. 18 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,980 New York is the capital of the art world. 19 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:35,340 And here, in a luxurious townhouse on East 71st Street, Larry Salander runs 20 00:01:35,340 --> 00:01:37,640 of the most prestigious galleries in town. 21 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:40,000 His gallery was huge. 22 00:01:40,220 --> 00:01:41,800 It was palatial. 23 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,720 Very large rooms, lots of marble. 24 00:01:45,060 --> 00:01:47,280 Very impressive. Very expensive. 25 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,080 You'd see him in the auction rooms bidding. 26 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:55,080 He seemed to have money. He was a first -class art dealer. 27 00:01:55,790 --> 00:02:00,270 Salander's clients range from hedge fund billionaires to entertainment industry 28 00:02:00,270 --> 00:02:05,990 A -listers, including Robert De Niro, Bruce Springsteen, and John McEnroe. 29 00:02:06,490 --> 00:02:12,790 But in October 2007, amidst a flurry of lawsuits, the gallery doors are locked. 30 00:02:14,310 --> 00:02:18,270 Several investors and clients claim Salander is selling their paintings 31 00:02:18,270 --> 00:02:22,010 their knowledge and pocketing tens of millions of dollars. 32 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,320 To put it very simply, I think he was a liar, a cheat, and a crook. 33 00:02:32,020 --> 00:02:36,580 The son of an antiques dealer, Larry Salander grows up in a middle -class 34 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:38,000 community on Long Island. 35 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,920 Yeah, Larry came from humble beginnings where he took care of his mom and 36 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:46,720 sisters. His father died pretty young. He didn't finish college. 37 00:02:46,980 --> 00:02:51,220 This was the show of Larry's work. Salander is an artist in his own right. 38 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,360 As Ron Gersten, a family friend and former employee, explains. 39 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,080 He was a painter, and that's what he cared about. 40 00:02:58,500 --> 00:03:02,220 This self -portrait was one he gave me that I've had for probably 20 years. 41 00:03:02,620 --> 00:03:07,260 After working in his family's antique business and other small galleries, he 42 00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:12,040 -found the Salander O 'Reilly Gallery on the Upper East Side in 1976. 43 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,420 The business plan is simple. 44 00:03:15,780 --> 00:03:18,660 Discover the next Picasso while he's still unknown. 45 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:20,220 Promote his work. 46 00:03:20,810 --> 00:03:21,990 and make them both rich. 47 00:03:22,590 --> 00:03:26,150 He didn't sleep at night. He ate, drank, and breathed art. 48 00:03:26,470 --> 00:03:31,590 When he wasn't in the gallery selling art, he was in his office reading about 49 00:03:31,590 --> 00:03:32,910 art and writing about art. 50 00:03:33,510 --> 00:03:39,590 He talked at the speed of a machine gun, and it was very entertaining to be 51 00:03:39,590 --> 00:03:41,390 around him in that sense. 52 00:03:42,050 --> 00:03:47,510 A lot of collectors are men and successful men. A lot of them are... 53 00:03:49,870 --> 00:03:54,710 You know, like stories, guy stories, and I think Salander was very good at that. 54 00:03:55,370 --> 00:04:00,330 He specializes in the American modernists, painters like Stuart Davis 55 00:04:00,330 --> 00:04:01,430 Ralston Crawford. 56 00:04:02,450 --> 00:04:07,090 Robert De Niro Sr., the father of the famous actor, is another favorite. 57 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:10,150 His passion for their work is obvious. 58 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:17,690 He would argue and explode and get loud and make his points strong about the art 59 00:04:17,690 --> 00:04:18,690 he believed in. 60 00:04:18,890 --> 00:04:21,450 Salander's instinct is usually right. 61 00:04:21,690 --> 00:04:27,730 By 1989, the successful gallery expands to a mansion on East 79th Street. 62 00:04:28,210 --> 00:04:32,470 But even though he's a big -time art dealer, Salander plays the role of a 63 00:04:32,470 --> 00:04:34,250 regular guy from Long Island. 64 00:04:34,570 --> 00:04:41,490 He was very gruff -speaking and contrary to almost any profile you might 65 00:04:41,490 --> 00:04:45,290 think of in terms of what an art dealer would look like, sound like. 66 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:48,620 dress like, and act like. 67 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,740 When he was in the nice digs, the Wall Street people were able to look past his 68 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:55,640 eccentricity and trust this guy's success. Well, I'll listen to him. 69 00:04:56,180 --> 00:04:59,440 The other people didn't mind the eccentricities. He was an artist like 70 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:00,440 were. 71 00:05:01,020 --> 00:05:06,100 Over the years, he developed close bonds with numerous art collectors, including 72 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:08,920 Dr. Alexander Perlman, a New York physician. 73 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,140 I remember one time we walked in, he said, Hey, Doc, how are you? I would 74 00:05:13,140 --> 00:05:14,140 him Doc. Hi, Doc. 75 00:05:14,390 --> 00:05:19,410 And it was very familial. Larry would treat him like a dad, and my father 76 00:05:19,410 --> 00:05:20,410 treated him like a son. 77 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:23,810 Dr. Ellen Shander is Pearlman's daughter. 78 00:05:24,110 --> 00:05:28,830 As a child, her father instills a deep love of art in her and her sisters. 79 00:05:29,390 --> 00:05:33,310 When we were little, the artwork in our house were our best friends. 80 00:05:33,850 --> 00:05:37,770 My dad would talk about them. He would introduce us to the colors and to the 81 00:05:37,770 --> 00:05:43,330 artists. Dr. Pearlman boasts an impressive collection, including pieces 82 00:05:43,330 --> 00:05:44,330 Monet. 83 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:46,040 Cezanne, Picasso. 84 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:49,480 His house in Queens is like a museum. 85 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:54,480 He was very concerned that he had a substantial collection in our house, and 86 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,680 was a middle -class neighborhood, and he was worried. So when anybody came in 87 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,980 and they asked about the paintings, we would always say, my dad paints. 88 00:06:02,340 --> 00:06:05,100 So the word in the neighborhood was, your dad's a good painter. 89 00:06:06,740 --> 00:06:10,220 As Dr. Perlman approaches his 90th birthday... 90 00:06:10,540 --> 00:06:15,020 Dr. Shander and her siblings talk to him about his collection, which is worth 91 00:06:15,020 --> 00:06:16,020 about $2 million. 92 00:06:17,020 --> 00:06:21,240 And I think I pressed my dad with, you know, you have a sizable collection. 93 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:25,400 would you like to do with it? And it was at that point that he said he wanted 94 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,320 Larry to take physical possession of it so that we could have it safe. 95 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:34,400 Dr. Perlman writes Larry Salander into his will. 96 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:39,180 which states that upon Dr. Perlman's death, Salander will hold the art 97 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:42,600 collection until the family can decide what to sell. 98 00:06:43,340 --> 00:06:45,080 This was a man he could trust. 99 00:06:45,340 --> 00:06:50,060 He said nothing bad could happen, that the art was going to be in safekeeping, 100 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:52,260 and that we shouldn't worry at all. 101 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:57,100 In 2004, Dr. 102 00:06:57,340 --> 00:07:00,640 Perlman dies from pancreatic cancer at the age of 91. 103 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,740 Larry Salander is by the family's side at the funeral. 104 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:10,100 He cried. He said, you know, your dad was like a father to me, and I'm really 105 00:07:10,100 --> 00:07:14,040 sad, and I'll do everything I can to help out Doc's kids. 106 00:07:14,740 --> 00:07:19,760 Larry meets the family at Dr. Perlman's apartment and immediately gets to work. 107 00:07:20,100 --> 00:07:26,760 He proceeded to catalog every painting. He created them that day. He gave us a 108 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,760 certificate. 109 00:07:27,850 --> 00:07:34,710 of insurance and he left with every painting and every artwork that day next 110 00:07:34,710 --> 00:07:41,110 american greed is larry salander really a family friend or a conniving con man i 111 00:07:41,110 --> 00:07:44,970 started to get my voice louder and insisting that i did want to see my 112 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:49,050 where were they and they got a security guard a very big guy and i'm a little 113 00:07:49,050 --> 00:07:50,770 person and they basically threw me out 114 00:08:08,810 --> 00:08:12,250 Larry Salander is thriving in the New York art world. 115 00:08:12,910 --> 00:08:18,270 After arriving on the scene in 1976, he establishes one of the premier galleries 116 00:08:18,270 --> 00:08:19,490 on the Upper East Side. 117 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:24,790 He's passionate about art, and he exudes warmth with his clients. 118 00:08:25,330 --> 00:08:30,990 He was always outgoing, happy to see us, very affable. 119 00:08:31,430 --> 00:08:33,610 Before he dies in 2004, 120 00:08:34,330 --> 00:08:39,809 Dr. Ellen Shander's father, Dr. Alexander Perlman, entrusts his $2 121 00:08:39,809 --> 00:08:44,070 collection to Larry Salander for safekeeping for his heirs. 122 00:08:44,830 --> 00:08:50,250 When I came to visit the artwork at his gallery right after my dad died, he was 123 00:08:50,250 --> 00:08:55,990 very nice, very considerate, very calm, very interactive. 124 00:08:56,470 --> 00:08:58,190 You know, I care about you. 125 00:08:58,870 --> 00:09:03,550 Around this time, Larry Salander begins a big expansion of his business. 126 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,020 So far, Salander is focused on scouting lesser -known artists. 127 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:12,800 Now, he wants to step into the arena of the old masters. 128 00:09:13,340 --> 00:09:20,260 Old masters, kind of like a kitchen sink category for things that could be over, 129 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:21,680 say, 200 years old. 130 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,300 French, German, Spanish, Italian. 131 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,340 Salander's new business model requires new space. 132 00:09:30,250 --> 00:09:34,850 He moves into an opulent neoclassical mansion on East 71st Street. 133 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:41,850 One of these beautiful 19th century buildings with a big staircase, 134 00:09:42,150 --> 00:09:45,950 beautiful rooms, beautifully appointed. 135 00:09:46,230 --> 00:09:50,230 You walked in and you thought, oh my God, this place is a palace. 136 00:09:50,730 --> 00:09:55,610 The rent, an astonishing $150 ,000 a month. 137 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:59,470 You've got to sell a lot of art to make that kind of rent roll. 138 00:10:00,310 --> 00:10:03,830 Salander spares no expense in his personal life either. 139 00:10:04,330 --> 00:10:10,030 In 2004, he buys a six -story Manhattan townhouse for just under $5 million. 140 00:10:11,270 --> 00:10:16,390 He has another 66 -acre home in upstate New York, complete with its own tennis 141 00:10:16,390 --> 00:10:18,690 court and baseball field for the kids. 142 00:10:19,470 --> 00:10:26,190 He took a private jet to go to his son's baseball game one day, which was about 143 00:10:26,190 --> 00:10:27,910 a 20 -minute away affair. 144 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:34,560 But moving toward old masters is a highly questionable business decision. 145 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:39,740 requires an enormous bankroll, frequent flights to Europe, and it's extremely 146 00:10:39,740 --> 00:10:42,680 hard to find overlooked or undervalued property. 147 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:49,200 You can't pull rabbits out of hats. You can't discover, you know, an unrecorded 148 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,200 Caravaggio painting. 149 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:55,460 Most people thought he had really lost a screw in his head. 150 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:01,240 This dubious business decision, combined with his massive overhead, means 151 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,520 Salander is burning through cash. 152 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:08,660 And people started buzzing about how could Larry afford it, what was really 153 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:13,940 going on. But he had the ability to put a show on that was impressive and 154 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:16,540 convincing. Larry was very convincing. 155 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:23,060 Salander makes much of his money selling other collectors' art on consignment. 156 00:11:23,870 --> 00:11:26,010 There would be an agreement for how long. 157 00:11:26,230 --> 00:11:29,290 You have one month, two months, six months. 158 00:11:29,630 --> 00:11:30,870 This is the price. 159 00:11:31,170 --> 00:11:36,130 And, you know, at the end of this period, if this is not sold, you simply 160 00:11:36,130 --> 00:11:37,270 the work back to me. 161 00:11:37,810 --> 00:11:43,450 The piece over the fireplace is Milton Avery. Art collector Maurice Katz has 162 00:11:43,450 --> 00:11:45,550 known Salander for 25 years. 163 00:11:46,250 --> 00:11:50,170 The art world is based upon faith and your faith in what the dealer tells you 164 00:11:50,170 --> 00:11:50,789 the truth. 165 00:11:50,790 --> 00:11:54,610 And sometimes, as it turns out in this case, what the dealer says wasn't the 166 00:11:54,610 --> 00:11:55,610 truth. 167 00:11:55,770 --> 00:12:01,870 In May of 2006, Katz sends a painting by Alfred Maurer to the Salander O 'Reilly 168 00:12:01,870 --> 00:12:05,890 Gallery. He wants $125 ,000 for the painting. 169 00:12:06,830 --> 00:12:09,630 Anything over that amount goes to Salander. 170 00:12:10,010 --> 00:12:13,630 But Katz hears nothing about the painting for nearly a year. 171 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,180 Turns out the painting had already been sold. 172 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:20,020 I found it out from another dealer in New York. I said, I know where your 173 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:24,580 painting is. It's sitting in the living room of X in New York, who acquired it 174 00:12:24,580 --> 00:12:25,580 from Salander. 175 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:28,060 Katz is shocked. 176 00:12:28,780 --> 00:12:33,120 Salander hasn't said anything about a sale. He certainly hasn't seen a check. 177 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:39,690 I immediately called him. I emailed him. I sent him a certified letter saying, I 178 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:45,970 understand you've sold the painting, and I want to check for $125 ,000 by, I 179 00:12:45,970 --> 00:12:46,970 gave him like five days. 180 00:12:47,530 --> 00:12:51,830 But Salander is elusive. A week later, he finally responds. 181 00:12:52,430 --> 00:12:57,970 Oh, I did sell the painting, and yes, I've sold it on an installment basis, 182 00:12:57,970 --> 00:13:01,990 the first payment is due within 30 days. It was like $12 ,000. I said, that's 183 00:13:01,990 --> 00:13:02,990 totally unacceptable. 184 00:13:03,390 --> 00:13:07,250 After Katz threatens to sue the gallery and report him to the authorities, 185 00:13:07,630 --> 00:13:14,030 Salander agrees to pay him the $125 ,000 in two installments of $62 ,500. 186 00:13:14,950 --> 00:13:21,130 The check finally arrived maybe a week later, so I took it over to the bank 187 00:13:21,130 --> 00:13:24,330 immediately, and of course it was NSF, non -sufficient funds. 188 00:13:25,210 --> 00:13:31,010 Fed up and frustrated, he contacts the Maine Antique Digest, an art industry 189 00:13:31,010 --> 00:13:33,350 publication, to share his story. 190 00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:38,270 A reporter tells him he isn't the only one having problems with Salander, as 191 00:13:38,270 --> 00:13:42,250 dozens of other collectors are suing the dealer for missing artwork and money. 192 00:13:42,870 --> 00:13:47,350 Stories appear in several publications as the lawsuits multiply. 193 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:52,840 He was cheating a lot of other people. I mean, I had no idea of the extent of 194 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,140 the fraud that he was engaged in. 195 00:13:55,640 --> 00:14:00,000 Salander is furious, thinking the bad press could wreck his business. 196 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,380 He fires off a threatening email to Katz. 197 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,880 And I was taking food out of his mouth and his poor little children's mouths, 198 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,920 and he was going to sue me for libel and slander for millions of dollars because 199 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,200 I had called him a crook. 200 00:14:14,950 --> 00:14:19,790 Dr. Ellen Shander hears the stories as well and worries about her father's 201 00:14:19,790 --> 00:14:20,790 collection. 202 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:24,490 So I called him on the phone. I said, Larry, what's going on here? This is 203 00:14:24,490 --> 00:14:27,670 disturbing. He said, oh, no, it's just a misunderstanding. 204 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:31,870 And I said, you know, I want to come in and I want to see my artwork. 205 00:14:32,890 --> 00:14:34,250 He said, no problem. 206 00:14:35,790 --> 00:14:40,150 She heads down to the gallery but is given a rude welcome at the front desk. 207 00:14:40,570 --> 00:14:43,290 They said he was upstairs and he wouldn't come down. 208 00:14:44,030 --> 00:14:48,770 He was on a very important phone call, and I knew that there was really big 209 00:14:48,770 --> 00:14:49,649 trouble here. 210 00:14:49,650 --> 00:14:54,910 But my idea in my head was that my paintings were somewhere in the gallery, 211 00:14:54,910 --> 00:14:58,390 that I would find them. I never, ever thought that they were gone. 212 00:14:58,990 --> 00:15:04,510 Up next on American Greed, his empire is crumbling, but the Salanders aren't 213 00:15:04,510 --> 00:15:05,970 going down without a fight. 214 00:15:06,250 --> 00:15:11,430 His son tried to punch out one of the cameramen. It was pretty strange. 215 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:32,370 In the summer of 2007, Larry Salander appears to be a successful Manhattan art 216 00:15:32,370 --> 00:15:33,370 dealer. 217 00:15:33,930 --> 00:15:38,230 Salander travels around the world by private jet, owns multimillion -dollar 218 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:43,230 homes, and runs a spectacular gallery chock -full of priceless art. 219 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:47,750 I don't think anyone ever questioned, like, you don't say, gee, I wonder if 220 00:15:47,750 --> 00:15:49,570 guy pays his bills on time. 221 00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:54,650 You don't think about that when you're standing in a $40 million mansion on the 222 00:15:54,650 --> 00:15:55,650 Upper East Side. 223 00:15:56,750 --> 00:16:01,590 But by fall, longtime clients are starting to see through the masterful 224 00:16:01,590 --> 00:16:07,110 Salander has created. When lawsuits claiming he owes money hit the press. 225 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:13,150 I started hearing everybody talking in New York about, yeah, yeah, we know 226 00:16:13,150 --> 00:16:14,150 Larry Salander. 227 00:16:14,550 --> 00:16:16,670 Salander is running two schemes. 228 00:16:16,950 --> 00:16:22,430 In some cases, he's selling paintings and conveniently forgetting to send the 229 00:16:22,430 --> 00:16:25,650 proceeds to the consignors, artists, and their estates. 230 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Victims include Robert De Niro, who believes 12 of his father's paintings 231 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:32,759 been stolen. 232 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:38,400 He was simply stealing paintings from estates or people that weren't keeping 233 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,840 track of what was really in the gallery. 234 00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:47,480 Salander's also selling shares of paintings, but the numbers don't add up. 235 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:53,780 one notorious case, he sells shares equivalent to 350 % of the painting's 236 00:16:54,670 --> 00:16:59,610 This scam is exactly what happens to former tennis pro John McEnroe, a 237 00:16:59,610 --> 00:17:03,130 owner himself, and longtime friend of Salinger. 238 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:08,910 There's something kind of evil about it in terms of, you know, you have someone 239 00:17:08,910 --> 00:17:11,109 in your confidence and then you fleece them. 240 00:17:12,290 --> 00:17:16,990 And it's not just one. You know, it's not like Robin Hood or something. 241 00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:19,490 He was really ripping everybody off. 242 00:17:20,410 --> 00:17:22,390 By October of 2007, 243 00:17:23,230 --> 00:17:28,130 Salander is facing nearly 50 suits, claiming he owes $100 million. 244 00:17:29,270 --> 00:17:34,330 Lawsuits were just literally like coming into the courts, being filed every day. 245 00:17:34,870 --> 00:17:40,550 Amid all this turmoil, Salander plans his largest exhibit yet, featuring 246 00:17:40,550 --> 00:17:45,210 Caravaggio's Apollo the Lute Player that he claims is worth $100 million. 247 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:50,620 He was finally putting together the show that would culminate his entire great 248 00:17:50,620 --> 00:17:55,040 career. It would be the greatest show ever done by a commercial gallery, and 249 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,960 that he would be able to retire and pay everybody he ever owed a dime to back. 250 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,480 Art journalist Jud Tully interviews Salander before the big exhibit. 251 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,020 It was one of the most bizarre interviews I've ever done. 252 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:13,360 The dealer appears to be under tremendous pressure as the art world 253 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:14,440 his financial troubles. 254 00:18:15,230 --> 00:18:20,490 One of the employees had brought a fancy silver tray with this bottle of scotch 255 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:24,750 and glasses and put it down on the table in front of us. And I'm going, no, this 256 00:18:24,750 --> 00:18:26,350 is not cocktail hour. 257 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:32,170 And Larry is like taking a big slug. 258 00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:33,990 It's a conspiracy. 259 00:18:34,930 --> 00:18:36,030 I'm being attacked. 260 00:18:36,690 --> 00:18:42,030 This is chump change compared to the millions of dollars I've made for every 261 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:43,250 of these ungrateful people. 262 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:49,610 After this strange interview, Salander prepares for his big comeback exhibit, 263 00:18:49,890 --> 00:18:51,310 but it's not meant to be. 264 00:18:51,850 --> 00:18:56,630 On the day of the opening, a judge orders the gallery closed and the doors 265 00:18:56,630 --> 00:18:59,970 padlocked to prevent any more paintings from being sold. 266 00:19:00,610 --> 00:19:03,650 Larry Salander is locked out of his own gallery. 267 00:19:05,450 --> 00:19:10,690 The event sends shockwaves through the art world, and his story is making 268 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:11,690 headlines. 269 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,420 His son tried to punch out one of the cameramen that were showing the marshals 270 00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:20,820 coming and closing the doors, and his son just completely flipped out. 271 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,020 A few weeks later, Salander declares bankruptcy. 272 00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:30,400 Salander's friend and former employee, Ron Gersten, blames the clients for not 273 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,300 giving Salander enough time to pay them back. 274 00:19:33,660 --> 00:19:38,600 He had over 25 -year relationships with many of these people that made the 275 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,140 claims against him, which made me wonder, 276 00:19:42,380 --> 00:19:43,580 Who's greedy here? 277 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:48,920 The day he was in a tight bind and needed them to give him a little leeway, 278 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,800 of a sudden they ran and jumped on this bandwagon against him. 279 00:19:52,380 --> 00:19:55,620 Clients are anxious to see what's left in the gallery. 280 00:19:55,860 --> 00:19:57,280 They fear the worst. 281 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:02,420 Forensic people started going into the gallery, looking at all his records, and 282 00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:07,680 each person who had given him artwork on commission was allowed to come in and 283 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,680 look through the records. 284 00:20:09,210 --> 00:20:13,810 Dr. Ellen Shander discovers that at least 30 of her father's paintings have 285 00:20:13,810 --> 00:20:16,910 sold off, including the major Impressionist works. 286 00:20:17,430 --> 00:20:21,090 The entire collection is estimated at over $2 million. 287 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:25,390 We had no idea that he had sold them years before. 288 00:20:26,050 --> 00:20:28,430 We had no idea the paintings weren't even there. 289 00:20:29,130 --> 00:20:33,530 In Dr. Shander's case, some of her father's stolen paintings have simply 290 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:34,530 vanished. 291 00:20:34,810 --> 00:20:38,570 Apparently, Salander sold many paintings with just a handshake. 292 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,340 No one knows who owns them now. 293 00:20:41,740 --> 00:20:45,620 You can't even find where they went. They just literally disappeared from the 294 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:48,840 gallery. Other stolen paintings have a paper trail. 295 00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:53,800 But even if they can be located, it can be difficult to get the new owner to 296 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:54,980 relinquish the painting. 297 00:20:55,420 --> 00:21:01,620 If it was stolen, then you found out that some CEO in, you know, Walnut 298 00:21:01,780 --> 00:21:05,860 California owns your painting. I mean, good luck getting it back because he's 299 00:21:05,860 --> 00:21:06,960 just going to call his lawyer. 300 00:21:08,620 --> 00:21:14,000 The Manhattan District Attorney indicts Salander on 100 counts, including grand 301 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,840 larceny and fraud, and he's arrested in March 2009. 302 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:25,700 Prosecutors say Salander swindles 30 victims out of $120 million, primarily 303 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:30,360 finance his pursuit of the old masters and to maintain his extravagant 304 00:21:30,360 --> 00:21:31,360 lifestyle. 305 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:36,240 It's the biggest art world scam that I've ever encountered. 306 00:21:37,110 --> 00:21:41,890 Though Salander is known as a rough -and -tumble businessman, he apparently 307 00:21:41,890 --> 00:21:44,590 doesn't have the stomach for a prolonged court battle. 308 00:21:45,290 --> 00:21:51,350 In March 2010, Larry Salander pleads guilty to 29 counts of grand larceny and 309 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:53,910 one count of scheming to defraud. 310 00:21:54,530 --> 00:21:59,050 Larry wanted to fight all the charges against him. He didn't have any money 311 00:21:59,050 --> 00:22:03,650 lawyers. He didn't want to drag his family through an ongoing process. 312 00:22:05,130 --> 00:22:10,130 Later that summer, victims have a chance to address Salander at his sentencing 313 00:22:10,130 --> 00:22:14,410 hearing. When I gave my speech at the sentencing, I looked at him and I said, 314 00:22:14,430 --> 00:22:15,870 what kind of a human being are you? 315 00:22:16,830 --> 00:22:18,170 How could you do this? 316 00:22:18,490 --> 00:22:20,950 And he never batted an eyelash. 317 00:22:22,130 --> 00:22:26,630 Larry Salander is sentenced to six to 18 years in state prison. 318 00:22:27,490 --> 00:22:32,350 As for the artwork left in the gallery, much of it remains tied up in bankruptcy 319 00:22:32,350 --> 00:22:33,350 proceedings. 320 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,600 Many victims believe they'll never see it again. 321 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:43,340 There was a credit committee that was created to pay off Salander's debts, 322 00:22:43,340 --> 00:22:44,340 are substantial. 323 00:22:44,380 --> 00:22:46,940 And they've confiscated our art. 324 00:22:47,140 --> 00:22:50,520 And they've said that should be used to pay off his debts. 325 00:22:51,020 --> 00:22:55,480 I understand there's a possibility I could buy it from Salander's gallery, 326 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:56,480 is really disgusting. 327 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:02,300 For many, the betrayal by a supposed friend hurts more than the loss of 328 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,060 John McEnroe is the godfather of one of Salander's children. 329 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,520 He's never spoken about the case. 330 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,580 Dr. Ellen Shander's father was a friend of Salander for 25 years. 331 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,200 I feel so badly for my dad. 332 00:23:18,780 --> 00:23:20,060 I really do. 333 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:26,320 That I can cry about. My dad's relationship with him, his trust, his 334 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,320 him. 335 00:23:27,850 --> 00:23:33,510 I guess I'm angry in the sense that I felt I've been personally violated 336 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:37,450 he took advantage of, you know, trust that we had put in him. 337 00:23:38,210 --> 00:23:42,970 I think that only a despicable person with evil in their heart could do 338 00:23:42,970 --> 00:23:43,970 something like that. 339 00:23:44,210 --> 00:23:47,470 He's a con man of the umpteenth degree. 340 00:23:50,490 --> 00:23:55,850 Up next on American Greed, Stephan Wilson is a youth pastor that makes a 341 00:23:55,850 --> 00:23:56,850 career change. 342 00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:59,500 complete with a new name and a Lamborghini. 343 00:24:00,140 --> 00:24:05,020 Stephen Wilson, to me, had kind of a dual personality in the early part of 344 00:24:05,020 --> 00:24:10,480 career. He seemed to be doing good works, and then it seems he turned to 345 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:11,480 dark side. 346 00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:32,250 Folsom, California, a small northern California town best known for its 347 00:24:32,390 --> 00:24:36,550 made famous in the song Folsom Prison Blues by Johnny Cash. 348 00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:44,270 Folsom is the hometown of another man in black, Stephan Wilson, a self -made 349 00:24:44,270 --> 00:24:45,270 investment guru. 350 00:24:45,670 --> 00:24:49,550 And so that's what a hedge fund vehicle allows you to do. It makes your money 351 00:24:49,550 --> 00:24:53,730 work for you. Wilson is a late arriver to the world of high finance. 352 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:59,620 taking up a career in investing in his 40s. But Wilson seems to have a knack 353 00:24:59,620 --> 00:25:00,620 his new trade. 354 00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:07,700 He lived in a lavish home, drove luxury vehicles, seemed to be very successful. 355 00:25:08,260 --> 00:25:09,980 But looks are deceiving. 356 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:15,500 The huge investment returns Wilson promises are nothing more than smoke and 357 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:19,720 mirrors. He never really made any money. It was more or less, was he down a lot 358 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,620 or was he down really a lot? 359 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:29,640 The story of Stephan Wilson begins in the mid -1980s, back when he is known by 360 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,520 his given name of Stephen Wilson. 361 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,920 He originally finds his calling in the Christian Evangelical Church. 362 00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:41,540 He had been a youth minister at one point. He had traveled to several 363 00:25:41,540 --> 00:25:45,560 and claimed to be doing some type of charity work. 364 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:51,760 In 1986, he found Shake the Nations, an international youth mission group. 365 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,160 Shake the Nations was a nonprofit ministry that he was president of. They 366 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,440 do summer revivals. 367 00:25:58,900 --> 00:26:03,720 But Wilson is more interested in stealing identities than in saving 368 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,820 He had a small staff of people working for him, and he had gotten their Social 369 00:26:08,820 --> 00:26:11,880 Security numbers and their other biographical data. 370 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,700 And he took employees' information and actually opened credit cards in their 371 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:19,260 name where he was making payments and doing things for personal use. 372 00:26:20,010 --> 00:26:26,130 In December 2002, Shake the Nations is shut down, and Wilson pleads no contest 373 00:26:26,130 --> 00:26:29,730 to forgery and theft of access card information. 374 00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:36,130 Following a 90 -day jail sentence, Wilson is back on the streets, but deep 375 00:26:36,130 --> 00:26:37,130 credit card debt. 376 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:42,870 There was probably about $600 ,000 of debt associated to Shake the Nations. 377 00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:48,930 After struggling financially for a few years, he declares bankruptcy in 2005. 378 00:26:50,490 --> 00:26:55,590 Wilson decides to make a fresh start. He even legally changes his name from 379 00:26:55,590 --> 00:27:01,690 Stephen K. Wilson to Stefan A. Wilson, allegedly to get back to his German 380 00:27:01,690 --> 00:27:08,190 heritage. That's odd to me because he changed his name from Stephen Karl Heinz 381 00:27:08,190 --> 00:27:13,330 Wilson, which sounds pretty German to me, to Stefan Andre. 382 00:27:13,980 --> 00:27:16,500 Wilson, which sounds a little more French to me. 383 00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:20,840 The U .S. Attorney's Office says Wilson has an ulterior motive. 384 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:26,580 I think the real reason he changed his name was so that people would have 385 00:27:26,580 --> 00:27:31,580 difficulty pulling up his criminal record and his prior bankruptcy, because 386 00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:32,580 that's not good for business. 387 00:27:33,260 --> 00:27:38,620 With a new name and a clean slate, Wilson is free to pursue another money 388 00:27:38,620 --> 00:27:39,620 -making venture. 389 00:27:40,090 --> 00:27:44,850 In 2005 and then into 2006, he started recruiting investors and pulling other 390 00:27:44,850 --> 00:27:46,270 people's money to invest. 391 00:27:46,730 --> 00:27:52,750 Wilson forms an investment fund, which he names the Christians in Crisis, or 392 00:27:52,750 --> 00:27:54,150 Investment Fund. 393 00:27:54,550 --> 00:27:59,550 He produced some glossy brochures that talked about his so -called hedge fund, 394 00:27:59,650 --> 00:28:02,810 made it appear that he had a long history of investing. 395 00:28:03,270 --> 00:28:07,010 There are many problems with the fund, starting with the name. 396 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,280 Christians in Christ is actually a legitimate nonprofit organization. 397 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:16,540 He essentially, in our opinion, hijacked the name to use for his investment 398 00:28:16,540 --> 00:28:22,500 fund. Potential investors in the CIC fund are unaware of Wilson's past. 399 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:26,760 We were calling him Steve. He said his real name was Stephan, but he goes by 400 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:27,760 Steve as a nickname. 401 00:28:27,980 --> 00:28:33,120 Real estate broker Tim Manke first hears about Wilson through a family friend. 402 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:39,770 During a visit to his office, Wilson pledges him annual returns of 17 to 22 403 00:28:39,770 --> 00:28:40,770 percent. 404 00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:46,530 As a seasoned investor, Menke finds the promise suspicious, but still somehow 405 00:28:46,530 --> 00:28:50,530 attractive. He asks Wilson for proof of his success. 406 00:28:51,610 --> 00:28:55,510 Being a little cynical, I said, OK, well, you know, how much money do you 407 00:28:55,510 --> 00:28:56,710 in this funds? And I want to see it. 408 00:28:57,090 --> 00:29:01,210 So he logged into one of his stock accounts and in that account, I think it 409 00:29:01,210 --> 00:29:02,610 five point three million at the time. 410 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:07,760 Mankey takes the plunge and invests $100 ,000 with Wilson. 411 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:13,000 People have the choice of getting your monthly payment every month or letting 412 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,320 sit away and compound and grow. 413 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,620 Mankey chooses to let it grow, or so he thinks. 414 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,500 Darlene Rickaby doesn't have that luxury. 415 00:29:23,580 --> 00:29:26,640 Retired and living alone, she needs some extra income. 416 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:32,140 Well, I had had a stroke and I was worried about my money not being enough, 417 00:29:32,220 --> 00:29:33,620 lasting me the rest of my life. 418 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,880 Wilson eases her concern, telling her he can provide her with a monthly revenue 419 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:39,880 stream. 420 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,840 The pitch sounds appealing. 421 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:46,660 And then Wilson seals the deal by stressing his religious background. 422 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:51,320 He told me that he had been a preacher at one time, Christian in Christ. It all 423 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:55,340 just fell into what I believed in and it made me feel good, made me feel like I 424 00:29:55,340 --> 00:29:56,340 could trust this man. 425 00:29:57,050 --> 00:30:03,730 After Wilson promises her returns of 24 % a year, she withdraws $100 ,000 426 00:30:03,730 --> 00:30:06,310 from her savings and invests in the fund. 427 00:30:06,990 --> 00:30:11,910 Later I got some paperwork and it said 18%. And so I called and asked about 428 00:30:11,910 --> 00:30:14,390 and he said, oh, if I told you 24, we'll stay with that. 429 00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:19,870 It seems like Wilson just snaps his fingers and changes the rate of return. 430 00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:25,830 Though it's a red flag, it's outweighed by the monthly checks she requests that 431 00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:26,970 always arrive on time. 432 00:30:27,570 --> 00:30:31,110 Every month I would take out between $2 ,000 and $4 ,000 and he would send me a 433 00:30:31,110 --> 00:30:32,109 check for it. 434 00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:35,010 In the Sacramento area, word is spreading. 435 00:30:35,430 --> 00:30:39,850 Stephen Wilson can make you rich, but it comes at a cost. 436 00:30:40,770 --> 00:30:42,310 Next on American Greed. 437 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:44,570 It absolutely killed my grandmother. 438 00:30:44,850 --> 00:30:49,390 There's no doubt in my mind. She was crying about this when her heart burst 439 00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:50,390 she died. 440 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,400 Folsom, California. 441 00:31:01,940 --> 00:31:06,780 Stephan Wilson is a former youth minister who decides investing is a more 442 00:31:06,780 --> 00:31:08,180 lucrative career choice. 443 00:31:09,180 --> 00:31:15,000 Wilson's investors in the Christians in Crisis, or CIC Fund, are supposedly 444 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,580 earning huge returns. 445 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,060 But he also appeals to their sense of altruism. 446 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:27,320 He indicated to some of the victim investors that a portion of their funds 447 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:28,440 go to charities. 448 00:31:31,139 --> 00:31:32,900 Appearances play a role as well. 449 00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:38,320 Wilson now lives in a new million -dollar home and counts a Lamborghini 450 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,140 Hummer among his many possessions. 451 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,060 People would see that he's doing really well. He has these nice things, so he 452 00:31:44,060 --> 00:31:47,540 must be making way more than 24 % because I'm getting my cut and I see how 453 00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:52,860 living. Until now, the CIC fund has used word of mouth to get new investors. 454 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,900 Now, Wilson's ready to take it to the next level. 455 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:03,780 He and his associates would rent a meeting room, send out invitations via 456 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,320 and would do presentations at these seminars. 457 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,060 He also takes to the airwaves. 458 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,880 That's the first thing. Secondly, you either work for your money or your money 459 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:14,779 works for you. 460 00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:18,140 And he gave this pitch, same pitch that he probably gave at the presentation. 461 00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:22,260 Any investment is a risk, and you have to consider what your risk tolerance is, 462 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,700 and then you have to look at what you're investing in. And if you feel confident 463 00:32:25,700 --> 00:32:27,060 in the people managing your money. 464 00:32:27,740 --> 00:32:28,740 then you do pretty well. 465 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,740 Sharon Manke's son, Tim Manke, is a Wilson investor who has seen returns of 466 00:32:35,740 --> 00:32:38,580 than 18 % a year, at least on paper. 467 00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:44,240 February 2007, she attends a Wilson investment seminar. 468 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:51,420 He came across as being low -key, and so my first impression was, well, he's 469 00:32:51,420 --> 00:32:56,160 like the numbers guy because he's kind of that quiet accountant -type person. 470 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,700 The fund's entry fee is steep, $100 ,000 minimum. 471 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:06,020 In the boom real estate years, Wilson has an idea to help cash -strapped 472 00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:09,400 investors get their hands on that $100 ,000. 473 00:33:09,700 --> 00:33:16,480 He had a mortgage broker come and specifically discuss how the investors 474 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400 take home equity loans on their properties. 475 00:33:19,780 --> 00:33:24,340 He would encourage them to, as he said, unlock the dead equity. 476 00:33:24,910 --> 00:33:25,910 in their homes. 477 00:33:26,610 --> 00:33:31,830 Recently retired, Sharon has only $86 ,000 in her savings account. 478 00:33:32,590 --> 00:33:36,670 But there's a place where she can unlock some dead equity. 479 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:41,210 Her elderly parents live on a 20 -acre ranch worth nearly $3 million. 480 00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:45,130 She tells her parents about the CIC fund. 481 00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:51,130 My dad had retired 25 years earlier, and so what he retired on really wasn't 482 00:33:51,130 --> 00:33:55,160 sufficient. And then they were also hoping that I could retire and not work 483 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,220 anymore, stay retired. 484 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,880 Sharon and her parents meet Wilson at his home to discuss investing in the CIC 485 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:06,640 fund. Wilson tells them his fund is immune to market fluctuations. 486 00:34:07,540 --> 00:34:09,100 He said, it's a hedge fund. 487 00:34:09,340 --> 00:34:11,679 And my question was, what's a hedge fund? 488 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,840 Well, there's a bill to hedge around it, so it doesn't matter whether a stock 489 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,440 goes up or a stock goes down, that you still make money. 490 00:34:20,489 --> 00:34:25,810 Sharon's father, an 85 -year -old retiree, is skeptical of all this talk 491 00:34:25,810 --> 00:34:26,810 hedge funds. 492 00:34:27,210 --> 00:34:31,469 I remember my father saying to him, well, you know, I don't have $100 ,000 493 00:34:31,469 --> 00:34:35,550 the bank. And he did tell my father, well, but you could go get a mortgage on 494 00:34:35,550 --> 00:34:37,389 your property, which I believe is paid for. 495 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:43,270 Wilson convinces Sharon's parents to take out a $500 ,000 loan against the 496 00:34:43,270 --> 00:34:44,248 ranch. 497 00:34:44,250 --> 00:34:48,909 The property has been in the family for 58 years and has been paid off for 498 00:34:48,909 --> 00:34:49,909 decades. 499 00:34:50,350 --> 00:34:53,530 It was worth at that time about $2 .6, $2 .8 million. 500 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:58,290 Wilson promises them a 22 % annual return. 501 00:34:58,730 --> 00:35:02,550 Sharon and her parents receive nearly $9 ,000 a month. 502 00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:07,090 They were able to pay the mortgage that they took out on the property and, you 503 00:35:07,090 --> 00:35:10,710 know, have a nice amount left over to help supplement their income and made a 504 00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:11,710 difference for them. 505 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:19,010 Darlene Rickaby, who first invested $100 ,000, is pleased with Wilson's returns. 506 00:35:19,670 --> 00:35:25,610 She increases her investment to $250 ,000 and recommends the fund to her 507 00:35:26,030 --> 00:35:29,610 Once I started getting paid every month, my daughter decided to go ahead and 508 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:32,090 invest some money in, and she put a fair amount in. 509 00:35:32,450 --> 00:35:38,390 Next on American Greed, Wilson's wife, a former stripper, now in the lap of 510 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:42,670 luxury, asks, where's the money coming from, and drops a dime. 511 00:35:43,350 --> 00:35:46,910 For a long time, she probably believed that he was doing this magic. 512 00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:49,590 But I think she started to have her doubts. 513 00:36:04,550 --> 00:36:10,390 In 20 years, Stephan Wilson has gone from youth minister to hedge fund owner. 514 00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:13,890 Touting his supposedly religious background. 515 00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,060 Wilson persuades 80 people to invest with him. 516 00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:21,480 Many borrow hundreds of thousands of dollars against their homes for the 517 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,480 privilege. 518 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,180 The people who were in the fund who were getting paid out every month, they got 519 00:36:26,180 --> 00:36:29,720 their checks like clockwork, boom, every month they got their money. The fund is 520 00:36:29,720 --> 00:36:31,160 great for Wilson, too. 521 00:36:31,740 --> 00:36:36,580 He purchased a Lamborghini. He bought a $90 ,000 yacht. 522 00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:38,300 He purchased a diamond ring. 523 00:36:39,860 --> 00:36:42,100 He traveled. He traveled quite a bit. 524 00:36:42,890 --> 00:36:48,430 But just when it seems nothing will break his amazing run of profits, in 525 00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:51,890 an unlikely figure brings it all crashing down. 526 00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:58,250 Remarkably, it isn't a wary investor who blows the whistle on what looks like a 527 00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:59,250 Ponzi scheme. 528 00:36:59,350 --> 00:37:03,550 His wife actually brought the case to our attention. 529 00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:05,470 Wilson's wife. 530 00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:10,330 who lives in the million -dollar home, drives the fancy cars, and wears the 531 00:37:10,330 --> 00:37:14,690 diamond jewelry, isn't convinced of her husband's money -making acumen. 532 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:20,770 I think for a long time she probably believed that he was doing this magic, 533 00:37:20,770 --> 00:37:22,730 I think she started to have her doubts. 534 00:37:23,130 --> 00:37:27,450 And when her marriage turns sour, those doubts become stronger. 535 00:37:28,390 --> 00:37:33,690 In July 2007, Wilson's wife brings CIC documents to the FBI. 536 00:37:34,890 --> 00:37:39,110 And it became obvious pretty quickly that this was probably a Ponzi scheme. 537 00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:42,770 The documents tell a tale of brazen fraud. 538 00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:48,250 He kept purporting through the monthly statements that everything was okay, 539 00:37:48,250 --> 00:37:54,370 in fact it was glaringly not okay. He continued the scheme by telling people, 540 00:37:54,370 --> 00:37:57,530 lying to them, of his success rate. 541 00:37:57,810 --> 00:38:02,390 Wilson's records also reveal staggering investment in confidence. 542 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:04,660 He brought in about $14 million. 543 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:12,180 He invested about $6 million of that and had breathtaking losses. 544 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:18,120 In a relatively short period of time, he managed to lose about 98 % of that 545 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:19,120 money. 546 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,220 While $6 million is dissipated in the stock market, another $6 million is 547 00:38:25,220 --> 00:38:27,040 on his luxurious lifestyle. 548 00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:31,680 Yeah, I guess, you know, I paid for the guy to have a Lamborghini, which, you 549 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,120 know. But I never had one, but evidently he got one with my money, so. 550 00:38:36,220 --> 00:38:39,400 Wilson's fraud is exposed, and so is he. 551 00:38:39,820 --> 00:38:44,680 Far from being the squeaky clean church -going hedge fund manager, he's actually 552 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:48,200 a proven criminal with an ex -stripper for a wife. 553 00:38:49,100 --> 00:38:52,940 No, and I wouldn't have invested with him if I'd known about his wife either. 554 00:38:53,300 --> 00:38:55,740 But I didn't find out about her until it was too late. 555 00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:59,580 But Wilson's wife is now the law's best friend. 556 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:04,940 As she tells the feds, he's been stockpiling cash and crafting an exit 557 00:39:06,220 --> 00:39:11,120 He was exploring different ways to leave the country, various countries to go 558 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,120 to. 559 00:39:12,180 --> 00:39:15,980 Places he could go that didn't have extradition, that's where we could go 560 00:39:15,980 --> 00:39:19,320 him and get him. Places where he could go and, you know, find work. 561 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,940 Places where he could hide money. 562 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,100 Armed with this information, the feds haul him in. 563 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,840 In February 2008... 564 00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:31,830 Stephan Wilson is arrested for running a fraudulent investment program. 565 00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:37,050 The FBI says he steals $13 million from 80 victims. 566 00:39:37,950 --> 00:39:43,170 In one fell swoop, his investors go from easy street to the poorhouse. 567 00:39:44,170 --> 00:39:46,710 Totally, totally shocked. I just thought this can't be. 568 00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:51,150 My heart stopped. I just was in shock. I literally fell down on the ground where 569 00:39:51,150 --> 00:39:52,150 I was. 570 00:39:52,430 --> 00:39:53,650 was just totally shocked. 571 00:39:53,950 --> 00:39:59,270 Aside from the monthly dividend checks some have already received, investor 572 00:39:59,270 --> 00:40:01,190 money is almost all gone. 573 00:40:01,830 --> 00:40:05,670 I kept thinking, surely they'll get into it and they'll find out that there's 574 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:07,010 some mistake somewhere. 575 00:40:07,690 --> 00:40:10,790 That it'll all be cleared and we'll all get our money back. 576 00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:15,390 For the Manke family, three generations are devastated. 577 00:40:16,010 --> 00:40:21,010 We had to immediately make a lot of changes in our life. We had to move. 578 00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:22,900 We had to sell off some of our cars. 579 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,840 Tim's mom, Sharon, can no longer pay her bills. 580 00:40:27,220 --> 00:40:32,160 My mom had nowhere to live, had no money and no job. So she ended up moving in 581 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,400 to a room in our house for us, you know. 582 00:40:35,180 --> 00:40:37,500 Tim's grandparents are hit the hardest. 583 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:42,780 They lose the $2 .6 million ranch that had been in the family for more than 58 584 00:40:42,780 --> 00:40:43,780 years. 585 00:40:44,180 --> 00:40:49,360 My mother just gasped, and my dad was... 586 00:40:49,690 --> 00:40:54,370 Uccelli was very upset about it. They were just devastated. 587 00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:59,070 They pulled all that equity out, sank it into CIC, and lost it all. 588 00:40:59,630 --> 00:41:06,470 And as a result, you have three generations who lost their homes, 589 00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:07,470 family farm. 590 00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:12,430 Remarkably, both Elliot and Laverne Clausen, who had been healthy their 591 00:41:12,430 --> 00:41:16,530 lives, die suddenly within months of learning about the fraud. 592 00:41:17,170 --> 00:41:21,640 In August 2008, Laverne Clausen dies of an aneurysm. 593 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:24,340 It absolutely killed my grandmother. 594 00:41:24,620 --> 00:41:29,180 There's no doubt in my mind. She was crying about this when her heart burst 595 00:41:29,180 --> 00:41:30,180 she died. 596 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:34,140 Eight months later, her husband, Elliot, dies of a heart attack. 597 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:38,240 The family believes that this was stress -related too. 598 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,660 They had been married 64 years, and for them to lose their home that they had 599 00:41:43,660 --> 00:41:47,060 lived in for over 60 years was very devastating to them. 600 00:41:48,430 --> 00:41:55,190 On March 17, 2009, Stephan Wilson pleads guilty to wire fraud and filing 601 00:41:55,190 --> 00:41:56,750 false income tax returns. 602 00:41:57,470 --> 00:42:03,610 A judge orders him to pay $12 million in restitution and sentences him to 19 603 00:42:03,610 --> 00:42:05,250 years in federal prison. 604 00:42:06,190 --> 00:42:10,490 I'm glad to see he didn't walk, but I think it should have been a longer term. 605 00:42:10,490 --> 00:42:13,850 mean, he destroyed a lot of lives. I think he should have been in jail for 606 00:42:13,850 --> 00:42:14,850 rest of his. 607 00:42:16,549 --> 00:42:19,690 Wilson's victims now must rebuild their lives. 608 00:42:20,010 --> 00:42:23,750 Not an easy task in what's supposed to be the golden years. 609 00:42:24,350 --> 00:42:25,350 You know, it's survival. 610 00:42:25,790 --> 00:42:28,990 What do I do that at 63 now I have no retirement? 611 00:42:30,010 --> 00:42:33,950 I thought I would be retired and I could stay home and relax and play with my 612 00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:37,570 granddaughters. I had their money in that. It was part of that money, too, 613 00:42:37,570 --> 00:42:39,190 college money. I've lost that, too. 614 00:42:40,310 --> 00:42:44,110 And I thought it would just be a nice retirement, and it's not. Now I have to 615 00:42:44,110 --> 00:42:45,290 worry about trying to find work. 616 00:42:45,940 --> 00:42:51,220 Instead of having the fancy lifestyle we always saved and put away and came back 617 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,360 to that all that saving and put away was worthless. 618 00:42:53,580 --> 00:42:55,140 It's all gone just like that. 56034

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