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Now the world don't move to the beat of
just one drum. What might be right for
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you may not be right for some.
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Comedy shows always progress with the
times.
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What was allowed when I did the Brady
Bunch didn't work in later years because
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the social atmosphere was different. The
social climate was different.
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What's the matter with you?
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She fainted because we're black.
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Oh, she did?
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Well, it's nice to be noticed.
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It was a happier time.
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And watching family TV was
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part of the ordinary daily experience
for the whole country.
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What are we drinking to?
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To our little family.
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What a wonderful pain in the behind they
can be.
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I had just been a few years out of
college, and my college years were the
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hippie years, the summer of love, and it
was kind of tailing off at that point.
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And I think the advent of disco is a
good demarcation because all that hippie
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stuff was disappearing, and something
much more...
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I don't want to say obnoxious, but
something much more platform shoes.
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We could sum it up with just saying
platform shoes. What's all this stuff
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Is it Kunta Kinte's birthday?
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And somebody says, would you like to
come work for Norman Lear's company at
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time in history? Right in the same
building. We had One Day at a Time. We
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The Jefferson.
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A few buildings over, we had Archie
Bunker. And these were not only landmark
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shows, but in terms of the...
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edginess and the punchiness of the humor
and in terms of the politics they were
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there they were out there so when
somebody said come work on this norman
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show we said wow you know this oh great
we're going to be part of this you know
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grouping and uh and different strokes
and again i don't think that there's any
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flaw in this because it became what it
was and it was quite quite successful
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much softer if you boys had left i was
thinking about leaving with you
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It was much less edgier, so I think in
that way it was a new
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product for that stable of shows. It
was, I think, a much more different
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Lear product.
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I don't know if it was like this in all
his other shows. With Different Strokes,
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once he had it set, the premise, what it
was, how it was going to be written,
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who was producing, writing, etc.
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then he seldom came near the show.
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He would get all the scripts, of course,
for approval, and he'd make notes here
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and there.
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But he seldom came down to the show to
say, I don't like this, or you're doing
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this wrong, or anything critical. He
pretty much trusted us to do the show.
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I was told then that Norman had an
interest in this young fellow that had
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brought from Illinois named Gary Coleman
and that he'd done some commercials and
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that Norman brought him out to make a
remake of The Little Rascals and they
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some of it and it didn't work and so on.
And when Norman asked me if I wanted to
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be on the show and then I said, who's
doing it?
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And he said, we've got a new young
fellow named Gary Coleman.
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I said, well, I'd sure like to meet him
before I commit.
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So he took me in to meet Gary Coleman.
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When Gary walked through the door in his
little suit, dressed immaculately, I
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said, Norm, this show is going to last
six episodes or six years at least. I'm
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in. I'll do it.
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He was just as sweet a kid as you'd ever
want to.
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be involved with. Certainly at that
point, he was just, you know, a joy, I
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thought. I remember meeting Gary for the
first time before even there was even a
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reading. He was walking down the hall
and and he and I introduced myself.
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I leaned down. I said, Gary, hi, I'm I'm
one of the new writers on the show. And
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he shook my hand and said, oh, yeah, I
hear we've got some fine writers on this
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show. You know, it sounded like
something his parents had told him to
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regardless, it was a sweet thing for him
to say.
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Welcome, gentlemen.
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You're talking to us?
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Of course.
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How about that, Willis?
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Downtown two minutes and all ready with
Jim.
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The story, the original concept of the
story came from two writers named Kukoff
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and Harris.
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And I don't know the whole story about
how they submitted that to Norman Lear,
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our producer, but I know it appealed to
him. The concept appealed to him.
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And he was able to green light it, as
they say, to go ahead.
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And then there came a time when there
were various discussions about the
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and the story and the story characters.
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And some of us were able to make a
contribution to those discussions, I
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them. And it was about the time when Mr.
Silverman took over as head of NBC.
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And I was told that he had decided to
cancel his whole fall season because he
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hadn't liked, I guess, what other people
had selected.
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And he asked Norman if he had anything,
and he mentioned this, and he said, yes,
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I'm interested.
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Oh, there was a big conference meeting
at NBC.
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Fred Philbin was running it. Al Burton
was there. Burton represented Tandem.
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And we were discussing the pilot.
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And in a few moments, Fred Philbin said,
I don't want to do a pilot. I'll
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paraphrase that. Forget the pilot. Let's
just do the show.
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So then he wanted to move fast because
the times are fleeting and many of the
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fall shows were already well underway.
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So he said, all right, Gary and Conrad,
but you cast the other boy.
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And I won't be able to be there. This is
Mr.
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Silverman talking. But go over to
Burbank next Friday morning, pick out a
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scene, rehearse the three of the minute,
and show it to the rest of the
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executives. Everybody will be there with
me.
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Well, that was when we had to do the
show for, I guess, the very beginning
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before we got picked up. We did a 15
-minute or 20 -minute scene for the exec
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over there.
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You know, we were, I wasn't, you know, I
was so used to being on a show and
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doing it that I didn't have any problem
with it. And Gary didn't have any
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problem with it.
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The camera was very well seasoned, as we
know. So, you know, we just went over
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there and did the show. Since I didn't
have a script, I had two or three pages
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that involved the two boys.
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And we worked it out.
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I used a studio, an office, one of the
exec's offices.
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And there wasn't enough room, so I had
all the furniture put into the hallway.
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And what I did was I used a few chairs
to indicate spaces on the set.
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This chair is a staircase.
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This right over here, there's a mirror
on the wall here.
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And, of course, none of that existed.
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When it came time for the people to come
in, the executives from NBC, they all
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wondered where they would sit.
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And I said, there are no chairs.
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You have to sit on the floor, which at
first they were horrified.
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And then they got into the spirit of it.
I said, just pretend you're back at
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camp and you're 14 years old.
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They all managed to sit down, some with
great difficulty.
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And we went on with the scene.
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They saw the chemistry.
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They saw Willis. They saw Arnold.
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They saw Mr. Drummond.
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And he saw this. I remember we did it.
It was on the balcony.
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I've got a surprise for you.
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Look, you can see the whole city from
here.
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We're on the 30th floor.
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Ain't that something?
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Imagine, living up so high you can't
even smell the garbage.
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But I do remember that after we were
done, they just loved it.
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And within an hour and a half or two
hours, Norman called me to tell me
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bought the whole season.
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So we never did make a pilot.
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And back then when you got picked up,
you got picked up for 27 shows.
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I mean, 26 shows, you didn't get picked
up for like half a season. Like, you
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know, now you get like, okay, we're
going to try for seven shows.
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Arnold, after Papa died, who was it that
looked after you while Mama worked?
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You did, Willie.
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Well, now I'm your Mama and your Papa.
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For me, I was excited at the whole fact
that I was able to be an older brother.
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for a kid, because I had always been,
you know, the baby of the family, so to
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have a kid who could be, you know, an
older brother to me, that's great.
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This is Arnold, and this is Willis,
Kimberly.
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Hi there.
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Hi. Hi, metal mouth.
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Oh, Daddy, isn't this delicious?
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We've just met, and already he's
insulting me like a real brother.
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By the way, guys, stay out of my room,
or I'll punch you out.
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Well, she was so pretty and fresh,
and...
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and her whole being was attractive and
bright.
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She was very bright and with it and fun
to work with. When you hired me
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yesterday, you said you had one 13 -year
-old daughter.
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You didn't say anything about two boys
coming to live here. I don't do windows
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and I don't do boys.
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I got involved with different strokes
because of Norman Lear.
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When I was in New York originally, I did
a lot of things, and one of the things
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I did was the Colgate Comedy Hour, and
he was one of the producers and writers
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of it.
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So when I came out to California after
many years in New York with my family,
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they were very, very wonderful because I
would do little guest shots,
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you know, guest appearances on all of
his sitcoms.
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And then I was doing something called
the Eddie Capra Murder Mysteries,
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and I was at Universal in costume, and
they called and asked me
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to come and meet with the producers and
everything, and I was wearing an
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old schleppy thing that I wore for the
character for the Murder Mysteries.
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And I sat down, and I was expecting to
read.
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They didn't have me read. We just
talked.
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And they asked me about how I felt this
housekeeper should be with these two
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boys and with Mr.
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Drummond. And I told them the way I
felt.
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And the next thing I knew, I had the
part.
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When Mr. Drummond finds out, you're
going to be the spanky.
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Oh, no, he won't, Mrs. Garrett. Daddy's
fair.
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He'd never spank the boys if it was only
an accident.
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My head believes you, but my other end
says get out of town.
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Yeah, my ends with his end.
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We became a family very quick because
we...
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We're one of the first shows on the
particular lot, I think, that had kids
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it. And so we became really close, and
we did a lot of things together.
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And, you know, it was a lot of fun.
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Plus,
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in those days, working at KTTV, it was
like such a hub of activity.
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You know, you couldn't spit, but hit a
star.
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And even the guest stars that were
coming through there, it was a total
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environment. And different strokes just
fit right into it. Literally, there was
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the reception desk, and off here was the
Jeffersons, and off here was different
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strokes. And the place was humming.
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And the lot itself was humming, mostly
with various Norman Lear shows.
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We're going to fly.
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What are you talking about, Mr. D?
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I think doing a situation comedy or any
comedy in front of an audience, to
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me, is absolutely essential because I
don't think writers, actors, directors,
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anybody really knows what's funny. The
only people that know what's funny are
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audience, the people we do it for.
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And I can't imagine doing a situation
comedy without the advantage of an
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audience. I say no way, no how, no time
and no chance.
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Get the picture?
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A lot of our work came into play then.
Because, again, in those days,
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in the Norman Lear offices, you would do
a show in front of an audience, there'd
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be a dinner break, and then you'd do
another show in front of an audience.
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Not like today where you seldom do more
than one show in front of an audience.
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And, in fact, as a young writer, one of
the only chances I could really fight
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for my material was I'd say, Please let
this joke stay in the first taping. And
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if the audience doesn't laugh, I'll
write you five more at dinner.
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And the older guys would literally,
they'd say, I'll bet you $10 that joke
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going to work. I'd say, I'll bet you $10
it will.
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And if it did, it was a great.
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It's like looking at your dad and
saying, see, pal, I told you I could do
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And if you didn't, you'd flunk off
instead of eating dinner. You'd have to
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some new jokes that would fit in that
space.
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So particularly for my partner and I, a
lot of our work would come in at
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dinnertime in between the two shows. I'm
sure you've learned your lesson.
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Yeah, I learned another lesson, too.
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Good. What's that?
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The next time I do anything wrong, I'm
going to find a better hiding place than
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this apartment.
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They were like morality plays.
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But it was never done with the idea of
we're going to teach you a lesson if you
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watch the show.
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Never. So we wrote it on two levels.
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Number one, be funny.
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And say something.
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Let the audience take something positive
away.
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from every show, and we did it. We did
that week after week.
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We tried to have a little moral to every
story and make some
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kind of a social point without going
overboard and making it too heavy.
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After all, this wasn't a dramatic show,
although we did use some dramatic
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subjects.
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in a comedic way, but we treated the
subject seriously.
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We had one hell of a show where Drummond
bought little Gary Arnold a telescope.
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So he would look from the penthouse
patio at New York down below.
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And one day, through the telescope, he
sees a man
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steal something from another man and run
away.
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Arnold, what is it?
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I just saw a big hold -up. A hold -up?
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A hold -up? Drummond says, well, what
are you going to do about that, Gary? He
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says, I think we ought to tell the
police. And Drummond says, absolutely.
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That's a good citizen.
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That's him.
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That's the hold -up man.
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Are you sure, Arnold?
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Positive. Hey, great. Frank, the kid
thing. You're to bring him in, will you?
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You're right, Sergeant.
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Arnold, you did great.
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Now, all you got to do is identify him
and align him.
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Drummond gets a phone call, the house,
saying... What do you mean? You want
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kid alive or whatever, you know? Yes.
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Yes, I understand. Now, as a father,
he's concerned about the kid.
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And he's saying, I don't want you to go
down there.
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Now, Arnold, you did the right thing by
calling the police.
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And you were very brave.
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But sometimes bravery can cause more
trouble than not being brave.
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And so not being brave can be a kind of
bravery in itself.
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Who's he talking about, Mr. D?
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And now the kid feels bad and he talks
about it over with Todd and with
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Kimberly. You gotta go to the police
station tomorrow.
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Why do I gotta?
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Because if you don't help people when
they're in trouble, they won't help you
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when you're in trouble. We gotta get
involved.
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We're really dealing with something
important here.
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And the kid decides, by God, he doesn't
want to disobey Drummond, but he's got
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to do it because that bad man shouldn't
get away with it.
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Look who's here, our star witness.
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Hey, Frank, get that bum in the lineup.
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And by God, he identifies the guy, and
they lock up the man, you know, and
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Drummond at the end says, you're right.
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Well, I forgive you this time.
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But don't do it again.
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You guys don't know what you've done.
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I mean, you could have got into a
terrible... I mean, even if what you did
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right, you might have... Good heavens, I
didn't even know you were gone. And
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you... Oh, what the heck.
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Hey, you guys, I'm proud of you.
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You know, it was interesting because we
all really enjoyed each other.
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There was a great...
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deal of laughter on the set.
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On new shows, there's a lot of pressure.
There's a lot of stress. There's a lot
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of unhappiness. I don't remember a lick
of it on the first or a different
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stroke. I mean, the kids were always in
a good mood. They were always running
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around. They were being kids.
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Gary and Todd went on strike for
something that my partner and I wanted.
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remember what it was, what the issue
was. Oh, I think we wanted to be extras.
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I think we were just demanding to be
extras in one of the episodes.
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And they wouldn't let us. And so Gary
and Todd came to the reading on strike.
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They had little picket signs.
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They wouldn't work unless we got to be
extras.
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You know, they were those kinds of kids.
They were real kids.
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And at least for the year or two I was
there, that didn't change much.
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It was the era of the 70s where, you
know, still kind of a lot of race things
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going on in different parts of the
world.
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But it was showing the world that people
can live together no matter what color
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they are as long as they love each
other.
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And I think that's what it showed. And
it made a lot of the world wake up and
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go, hey, you know, this can happen. This
can work.
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Olivia, are you thinking what I'm
thinking?
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Yeah, baby.
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It's obvious that these boys belong
here, black or white.
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It's love that comes.
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I just think that it's a show that
changed the times, and I think that's
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made it so successful.
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Ironically, when I lecture around the
country, and they read my resume when
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introduce me,
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People could care less about anything
I've done. And I've done some good
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I did Family Matters. I did A Night
Court. I did Mama's Family.
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I did a lot of good shows. When they
hear different strokes, that's what they
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want to talk about.
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Tell us about different strokes.
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I think all of us that still admit to
having worked on different strokes, it's
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going to follow us until our dying days.
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I took away a lot of good feelings.
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Very good feelings. And the main feeling
was I couldn't wait until the season
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began again so I could be with my
family.
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They were wonderful.
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Well, we tried to make it as real as
possible.
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And if people really felt that warmth
and humor.
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That's what it's all about. That's what
we wanted to do. I'm glad.
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I'm so glad to have been a part of a
really first -rate show with brilliant
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people.
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Well, I think that anybody that watches
this DVD, I hope they will have the same
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pleasure in watching it that we had in
making it.
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Different Strokes will always be the
number one show.
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No show will ever beat it!
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Different strokes to move the world, yes
it does indeed.
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Different strokes to move the world.
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