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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:03,960 LOWLES: So, who is he? 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:05,960 COLLINS: Calls himself Lucas Harrison. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:08,960 That name's never cropped up before. Could be a newbie. 4 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:09,960 Yeah, could be. 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:12,960 Or it could be someone in the group using a fake identity. 6 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,480 Hope Not Hate just put this on their website right now. 7 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:19,960 "My sources tell me that the boys in black are very much in training, 8 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,480 "hitting the crash mats for what they think 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:23,960 "will be their big moment." Where's he getting that from? 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,320 It's obvious, innit? We've got a grass. 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:27,960 Everyone knows that'd be signing your own death warrant. 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,640 I've decided the time's come to do something. 13 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,960 I'm going to commit a murder to begin the race war. 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,160 Another MP... Rosie Cooper. 15 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,320 Why her, though? She's my local MP. 16 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,960 When do you plan to do it, mate? 17 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,960 Ready to go now. 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:42,960 PHONE VIBRATES 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:46,480 COLLINS: Rosie Cooper... What about her? 20 00:00:46,480 --> 00:00:48,960 Look, you realise this changes everything, don't you? 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,960 I mean, I can't sit on this information, mate. 22 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,160 'Now, what's your real name? 23 00:00:52,160 --> 00:00:54,960 'Cos I know it's not Lucas Harrison.' 24 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,320 It's... Robbie. 25 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:00,480 Robbie Mullen. 26 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:19,960 Are you coming back, Dad? 27 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:22,960 I don't think so, son, no. 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,640 But you'll have a lovely time, won't you? 29 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:27,960 And I'll see you when you get home. 30 00:01:27,960 --> 00:01:29,960 Be good for your mum, yeah? 31 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:30,960 ALISON: Yeah. 32 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:35,960 Come on, let's go to the pool. Come on. 33 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:37,000 Bye, Dad. Ta-ra, son. 34 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,960 See you. Ta-ra. Come here. 35 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:42,960 Danny, come on. 36 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:47,800 I'm not sure I want you there when we get back. 37 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,960 All right, lad. Take that. 38 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:30,960 Robbie? 39 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,960 I had to leave my wife and kids on holiday because of you, lad. 40 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:35,960 She's not happy. 41 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:39,960 Any news on when it's gonna happen? 42 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,800 Soon. 43 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,640 Think he's gonna do it? 44 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:44,960 Yeah. 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:47,480 That's why I came to you. 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:49,960 Look, lad, is this some kind of trick, or something? 47 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,960 What do you mean? Some kind of plan for you to get inside Hope Not Hate. 48 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:54,960 You know, get close to me. 49 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,960 There's plenty of people who wanna do me in. 50 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,960 They all hate you. 51 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,640 Everybody who I've ever spoke to about you 52 00:03:01,640 --> 00:03:02,960 absolutely hates your guts. 53 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,960 Well, what's going on, eh, Robbie? 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,960 You know, you join up with National Action, 55 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,800 you move up through the ranks... I mean, what are you now? 56 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,960 What, deputy organiser, or something? 57 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,960 Why'd you reach out? 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,960 Why are you sat here with me today? 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:23,960 HE SIGHS 60 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,960 Fucking... Fuck off! 61 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:30,960 Let's cut the fucking caveman bullshit, shall we, eh? 62 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,960 People's lives are at risk here. 63 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,960 I wanna know what's happened to make you come and sit here 64 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:37,480 wanting my help. I've told you. 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Look, I found out what Renshaw was gonna do and I got in touch. 66 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,960 No, you got in touch with me BEFORE you knew what Renshaw was gonna do. 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,960 So, why? 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,960 I just didn't like the way it was going, all right? 69 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Are you still the same person that joined National Action? Yeah or no? 70 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,960 What about the Muslims, eh? What about the grooming gangs? 71 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:55,960 What about them? 72 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Well, what's happened to make you change your mind? 73 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,960 Have you changed your mind about that? 74 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:00,960 Not necessarily, no. 75 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,960 Not necessarily, no? 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Oh, all right. Well, what about the Jews? 77 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,960 I never have a problem with the Jews. 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:08,960 That was Jack's thing, wasn't it? 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:14,640 They've never done anything to offend me, other than... 80 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:15,960 holding things back for money. 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Holding things back, like what? 82 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:19,960 Cure for cancer, things like that. 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:21,960 What, is that what they told you? 84 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:23,960 Yeah. 85 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:24,960 My dad had cancer. 86 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,960 Look, lad, the gobshites that told you that, 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,000 they also believe that the Holocaust didn't happen. 88 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,960 I told you, I never went in on that Jew stuff anyway. 89 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,320 They've never bothered me. 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,160 All right, so what DOES bother you? 91 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:40,960 It wasn't just the MP. 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,960 They were always going on about... 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,640 killing or shooting, or... exterminating people. 94 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:48,960 OK, and that's not you? 95 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Don't wanna kill people, no. 96 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,000 That's very gracious of you. 97 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,960 You don't wanna kill them, 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,960 but you don't mind shouting at them in the street 99 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,960 and telling them to fuck off back to their own country? 100 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,960 Not really, no. 101 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Do you wanna kill ME? 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:06,960 There's no need. 103 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,000 Plenty of people in the queue in front of me. 104 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,960 So, what now? 105 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,960 We've told the police about the MP. 106 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,480 You know, they'll take steps to protect her 107 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,960 and try and get to Renshaw before he gets to her. 108 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,960 You know, then the police will wanna speak to you. 109 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Right, and... 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,000 then what? It's all over? 111 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 What are you gonna do about the others? 112 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,640 What about the others? 113 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,960 Chris, Matt, the others. 114 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,000 They've done nothing wrong. 115 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,640 This... This is all Jack, cos he's a weirdo. 116 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,000 The others, they're my mates. 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:54,960 I'm not a grass. 118 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,480 Look, lad... 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,960 Do you know exactly what you've got yourself into here? 120 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,960 I told you before you came barging in, he's not here. 121 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:12,800 Where is he, Mrs Renshaw? We need to know, right now. 122 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,960 I really can't help you. 123 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,640 When he goes out, I don't know where he's going 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,160 or what time he'll be back. 125 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,960 Listen, I just wanna make it clear, right, 126 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,960 neither me or his father agree with Jack's politics. 127 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,960 This is because Jacko made those speeches? 128 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,960 Mr Renshaw, we need to locate your son as a matter of urgency, 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:36,960 for his safety and the safety of others. 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,960 You don't live with his mother, 131 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,960 and he obviously wasn't at her house. 132 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,960 He's skipped bail, Mr Renshaw, and is currently a wanted man. 133 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,800 Sorry, I... 134 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,960 I don't know where he might be. 135 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:54,960 Yeah, I gotta go. 136 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,960 I'll come straight to the point. We need you to hand over your mole. 137 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,960 We want him, we want all your intelligence 138 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,960 on Renshaw and National Action, and we want it right now - 139 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:15,000 we're not fucking about. 140 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,960 All right, can we just take a minute, all right? 141 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,960 I think you'll find that he and Hope Not Hate 142 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,960 were trying to prevent a rather high-profile terrorist outrage. 143 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:25,960 Having someone inside National Action - 144 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,480 a group you thought were finished - seems useful, no? 145 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,960 I'm aware you must be looking on all of this 146 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:31,960 as some sort of big PR coup for 147 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,320 your organisation... That's bollocks. You know it! 148 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,960 ..but this is a matter of national security. 149 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,960 Really? Yeah. And it's your duty - 150 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,960 indeed, it's your legal obligation - to assist us in our investigation. 151 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,960 No, we're not just gonna hand him over. 152 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,960 At least not until he's got some kind of immunity. 153 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Look, he's only just reached out - 154 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,160 he's in a really vulnerable position. 155 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,480 He is a member of a proscribed organisation, 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,960 but the only reason for that is so he can continue to provide us 157 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,960 with information about the organisation's activity. 158 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:58,960 If you push him too hard too soon, we'll lose him. 159 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,960 We need his name. 160 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:01,960 No, we can't do that, and you know we can't. 161 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Look, he's trying to help us. He's trying to help all of us. 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,000 We can't just throw him under a fucking bus! 163 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,960 You're out of your depth. If you don't give us his name, 164 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,960 I'll arrest you and shut down your organisation. 165 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,960 HE SCOFFS You're communicating with a person 166 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,960 belonging to a proscribed organisation. 167 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:19,000 And you have knowledge of that same organisation having meetings 168 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,960 and carrying out terrorist activities. 169 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:22,960 You're breaking the law. 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,000 No, I'll just stop you there. 171 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,320 I'm a member of the National Union of Journalists, 172 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,960 and I am bound by their code of practice not to reveal my source. 173 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,960 Do your homework. 174 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,960 2016 amendment to the Terrorism Act. The journalism defence doesn't apply 175 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,320 when we're trying to prevent a crime from being committed. 176 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:40,960 Now, I need that name. 177 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,320 Or I'll be seeking a warrant for your arrest. 178 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,160 KNOCKING 179 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:16,000 I skipped bail. 180 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,480 I need a place to stay for a few nights. 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,960 Don't worry - no-one knows I've come here. 182 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,320 Come in. 183 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:37,960 Take the back bedroom, 184 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,960 top of the stairs, along the landing. 185 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:41,960 Right. Thanks, Kev. 186 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,960 I've just got a feeling 187 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,160 that the police could be really shitty about this. 188 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960 I mean, it could well end up with us both going to prison. 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,960 Well, we have to protect him. 190 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 You know, if we don't, it goes against everything we stand for. 191 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,000 He's only just starting to talk - 192 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,160 we can't just hand him over. Yeah. 193 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,960 Well, if we hand him over, 194 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,960 then no-one else'll ever come across again. 195 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,640 We'll never be trusted. 196 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:43,960 I get it. No police. 197 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,960 Not until they promise Robbie immunity from prosecution. 198 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,960 'Hi, this is Ally. Please leave a message and I'll get back to you.' 199 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,480 Ally, it's me... 200 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,960 I'm back now. Please answer your phone. 201 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,960 Look... 202 00:10:59,960 --> 00:11:02,800 I don't like this any more than you do. 203 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,480 Just... 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,960 give us a ring back, would you? Please. 205 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:21,960 Keep your guard up. Good. 206 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:23,320 Hit him harder! 207 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:24,960 Keep your guard up, lad. 208 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,800 Good. Anyone heard from owt from Jack? 209 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,960 No, he's gone quiet. 210 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,960 He's not answering his phone or messages. 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:34,960 He's bottled out. He ain't gonna do it. 212 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,960 When we want your opinion, Garron, we'll ask for it. 213 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:39,960 Anyway, shut up - no-one's supposed to know. 214 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:49,960 Right, see you in a bit. See you later. 215 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,960 PHONE LINE RINGS OUT 216 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:02,960 Hello? Matt? 217 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:03,960 Have they arrested him yet? 218 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,960 No, they can't find him. We were hoping you'd tell us where he was. 219 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,640 'No, I-I don't know where he is!' 220 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,960 Fuck's sake! He... He's got to be stopped! 221 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:12,960 Well, we're doing everything we can, Robbie. 222 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,960 We've given the police every address we know. 223 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,960 'Look, keep asking questions, lad. Someone must know something.' 224 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,960 HE SIGHS 225 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,960 You shouldn't spend so much time on that thing. 226 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,960 The Jews have got a device in it 227 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,960 that watches what we're doing the whole time. 228 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:42,960 And the fluoride they're putting in the water. 229 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:46,000 Slowly killing us. 230 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,960 I never drink tap water any more. 231 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,960 What did you skip bail for anyway, Jack? 232 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,320 It was for hate speech. 233 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Good lad. 234 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,960 Come on. Keep up, Robbie! 235 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:15,960 ROBBIE GROANS SOFTLY 236 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,960 If you keep your breathing through your nose 237 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,960 and out through your mouth, yeah? 238 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,160 You're doing well, mate. Keep on breathing - 239 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,960 in through your nose, out through your mouth, remember. 240 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Chris has just forwarded me a message from Jack. 241 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,960 Jack? Why? Where is he? 242 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,800 No-one knows. Chris reckons that he's staying 243 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,960 at some fucking mad friend of his in Skelmersdale. 244 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:44,320 Look at that. 245 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:53,640 Robbie? 246 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,960 Hurry up, mate. 247 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Come on, run! 248 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,960 DRAMATIC MUSIC PLAYS 249 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Armed police! Don't move! 250 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,960 Let's go, let's go! 251 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:13,960 POLICE CLAMOUR 252 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,960 Armed police... 253 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,960 Get on the ground! Do not move! OK. All right. 254 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,960 Upstairs! 255 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,640 Armed police! 256 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Armed police. Show me your hands. All right, all right! 257 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Show me your hands. Get out slowly. Slowly. 258 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Stay on the floor. 259 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:42,960 They've arrested Renshaw. 260 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Oh, thank fuck for that. 261 00:15:44,960 --> 00:15:47,160 'They found that big machete you told us about.' 262 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:50,960 They also found a load of stuff on his computer about Rosie Cooper. 263 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,640 'And we found out something else about him.' 264 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,800 He's been grooming young boys for sex. 265 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,960 'They arrested him a few days ago. He was about to be charged, 266 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,960 'but he knew it was gonna come out.' 267 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,960 I think he decided to go out in a blaze of glory. 268 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,960 Jack's a paedo? 269 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,480 And he's into boys? He... 270 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,960 He was always the first one to have a go about queers. 271 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,960 So, the situation's changing rapidly. 272 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,960 Now that they've rearrested him, 273 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,000 the police want you to make a statement. 274 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,960 Me?! 275 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,960 What do they want from me? They... They've got him, 276 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,640 they've got the fucking machete. What do they need me for? 277 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 'Look, I told you the police would want to speak to you, Robbie. 278 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:28,960 'They want to make the charges stick.' 279 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:30,960 You were at the meeting when he announced what he was gonna do. 280 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,000 All right. Yeah, OK. 281 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,960 'I'll talk about Renshaw, but...' 282 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,960 I'm not dobbing the others in. 283 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:44,800 'Our advice is you don't say anything to anyone at the minute.' 284 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,960 Not until they can guarantee you immunity from prosecution. 285 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:51,960 I... 286 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,960 What, I can get done too? 287 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,960 Mm. Yeah, technically, yeah. 288 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,960 For still being a member of National Action. 289 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,960 'Look, they're a banned terrorist organisation, mate. 290 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,960 'And you knew about a plan to kill an MP.' 291 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,960 What do I do? 'Well, for now, you lay low, lad. 292 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:06,960 'Keep your head down.' 293 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,960 The first sign of any trouble, you call me. 294 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,800 'Until we get your immunity, carry on as normal, 295 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:13,960 'or they'll know you talked.' 296 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,960 BANGING OUTSIDE CELL 297 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:22,480 BELL RINGS 298 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,960 CLANKING 299 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:29,960 DISTANT SHOUTING 300 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,480 BUZZING 301 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:52,960 All right? 302 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:54,480 What's going on, Jack? 303 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:57,960 I had to do something, Dad. 304 00:17:58,960 --> 00:17:59,960 HE SIGHS SOFTLY 305 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,960 I'm sorry for the pain this is causing you. 306 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,960 I believed it was the right thing to do. 307 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,800 The only thing to do. 308 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,960 Who else did you tell about your plans? 309 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,960 That's what I've been thinking about. 310 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,960 The only people I told was National Action. 311 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:23,960 There's no way the police could've known what I was going to do. 312 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,960 It must be one of them that told them. 313 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,960 COLLINS: All right, Nick. 314 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,320 'The police won't play ball. 315 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,960 'They say we're gonna have to hand over our source' 316 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,960 before they start talking about immunity for him. 317 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,960 'You're joking! Oh, cos the police have' 318 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,320 such a good track record of keeping their promises, don't they (?) 319 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,960 Look, I've been thinking about things, 320 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:45,960 and I've got an idea. 321 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:48,960 Well, go on. 322 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 We publish a story saying that, in spite of the ban, 323 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,960 National Action are still going strong. 324 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,160 'We publish photos of that gym they've set themselves up in, 325 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,960 'and we reveal that they're still recruiting.' 326 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,000 We also publish a photo of Lythgoe. 327 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,960 We show everyone just how little the police actually know 328 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,960 about an organisation that's supposedly been disbanded. 329 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,480 'If we don't do this fast, it's only a matter of time 330 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,960 'until they work out Robbie talked, and then he's a dead man. 331 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,000 'He needs that deal.' 332 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,960 So, we basically humiliate the Counter Terrorism Unit? 333 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,960 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we use it as leverage. 334 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,960 'We say to them, "Give our source immunity 335 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,960 ' "and we'll stop writing about how crap you are." ' 336 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Well, it's a plan. 'See, told you. Knew you'd like it.' 337 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,160 Look, I'd best get off - they should be home soon. 338 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,960 All right, speak to you later. Ta-ra. 339 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Go, go, go! Mind your head, mind your head! 340 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,960 Dad! Hey! Hello, lads! 341 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,960 All right, son? OK? 342 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,960 You all right, mate? 343 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,960 Are you good? Billy got a watch. 344 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:44,960 Did you? Yeah, it's a real Rolex, Dad! 345 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,960 I got one too! Wow, posh! 346 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,960 It was 20 euros from a fella selling them out of a suitcase. 347 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,960 Well, they look real to me, lads. Great. Go on, in you go. 348 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,160 Here y'are, mate. Cheers. Thanks very much, mate. 349 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:02,960 Missed you. 350 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,960 Is everything OK? 351 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:07,960 Or have you still got to save the world? 352 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,960 Oh, it's all right. 353 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,960 Let's talk about it when the kids are asleep. 354 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,160 PHONE RINGS 355 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Hello? 'Is that Mr Renshaw?' 356 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,800 Jack's dad? 357 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,960 Who's this? 358 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,960 A friend. 359 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,960 He might have mentioned me - it's Chris from the gym. 360 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,960 Yeah, he did mention someone by that name. 361 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,960 W-What do you want? 362 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,000 Just that we'd heard he'd been arrested, 363 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,960 wanted to make sure he was all right. 364 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,960 Yeah, your information's correct. 365 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Was it for the speeches that he made? 366 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:52,960 No. 367 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,960 For the other thing, the bigger thing. 368 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:57,320 'He said you'd know what.' 369 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,960 But listen to me. 370 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,000 He asked me to tell you if you called... 371 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,160 'other than the people at the meeting, 372 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,960 'he told no-one outside of National Action.' 373 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,960 'Do you understand?' 374 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:11,960 'I understand.' 375 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Please don't call me again. 376 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,960 And you promise you'll tell him that I helped make it? 377 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,960 Yes. NAT CHUCKLES SOFTLY 378 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,960 AND the mashed potatoes? Yes. 379 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,960 RATTLING 380 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,480 All right, stranger? Why's the chain on? 381 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:36,960 We've brought you some shepherd's pie. 382 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,960 Can we come in? 383 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Er, yeah, sorry, yeah. 384 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Hello! 385 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,960 Where've you been? I haven't seen you in ages. 386 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,800 Er, sorry, I know. Just been busy. 387 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:51,960 Milly! 388 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,960 Bloody hell, Robbie, I thought you said you were trying to eat healthy! 389 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,320 So, are you hungry? Just stick it in the fridge, eh, Nat? 390 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,960 I helped make it, Uncle Robbie. 391 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,960 I-I'll have it tomorrow, don't worry. 392 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960 Do you want a brew? 393 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,960 Er, I-I don't think I've got any milk. 394 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,960 What's going on, Robbie? 395 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,960 What do you mean? Why are you acting weird? 396 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:20,960 I'm not acting weird. Well, yeah, you are. 397 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,960 What was all that by the front door? Why haven't you been to see us? 398 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,960 Or Mum? I've been busy! 399 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 What's that on your cheek? Nothing! 400 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,000 You been fighting? What's going on, Robbie? 401 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,320 Nothing is going on! 402 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,960 ALISON: It's not fair on them. 403 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320 I knew what I was getting myself into when we got together. 404 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,960 You were always honest with me. 405 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,960 And it's not about me - really, it's not. 406 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:49,960 But I can't stand it when we disappoint the boys. 407 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:50,960 No, me neither. 408 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,640 Is this all we have to look forward to? 409 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,960 Cos if it is, best you let me know now, 410 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,320 because I'm gonna take the boys and I'm gonna go. 411 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,960 If I haven't got you and the boys, then what's the point? 412 00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:01,960 Then you're gonna have to find a way to take yourself 413 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,960 off the firing line, Matthew. 414 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:05,960 Because it's always you that they hate, 415 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,960 and it's always you that they come after. 416 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,960 Just can't stand the fact I used to be one of them, that's all. 417 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,960 Twenty fucking years ago! 418 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,960 I get it. I understand. You did some terrible things. 419 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,160 Are you gonna spend the rest of your life saying sorry? 420 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,800 You're right, Ally. You always are. 421 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,000 They've arrested Renshaw now, haven't they? 422 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 I mean, that'll be the end of it, won't it? Hopefully. 423 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,800 OK. 424 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,480 Stop feeling sorry for yourself. 425 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,960 And we're going out tomorrow. 426 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:47,960 All of us. Family day. 427 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,960 We can go go-karting, play crazy golf. 428 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,960 Pretend we're normal. 429 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,960 PHONE VIBRATES 430 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,960 Robbie? 431 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,800 'I'm fucked, Matt.' 432 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,960 What's going on? 'I think they're onto me.' 433 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,960 Eh? 434 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,960 'They told me to be at the gym this afternoon, no excuses.' 435 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:28,960 What, face to face? 'Yeah.' 436 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,960 'Look, y-you can't go. Stay there. 'I'm jumping on a train. 437 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,960 'I'm leaving now. Keep your phone on.' 438 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,960 Ally? 439 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:41,960 Ally, love... 440 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000 You OK? What's going on? I've got to get off. 441 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,960 Are you messing? 442 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:46,960 No, it's Robbie. 443 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,960 Fuck off! 444 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,480 I'm sorry. 445 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Go on, then. 446 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,160 Robbie, you can't meet them. 447 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,960 If I don't go, then... 448 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960 well, they'll definitely know it's me, won't they? 449 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Robbie, lad, you know what they're capable of. You can't go. 450 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,960 What about the police? Have they... 451 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:18,960 Have they mentioned anything else about the immunity, or...? 452 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,640 Yeah, I'm working on it. Yeah. 453 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,480 I'll call them this afternoon. 454 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,960 Wh-What do you mean, you're working on it? 455 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,960 You come all this way just to tell me you're working on it? 456 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,960 No, I've come all this way to keep you safe, Robbie. 457 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,960 Look, trust me, son. 458 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,960 I'll sort it, I promise you. 459 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,960 I wish I'd never got involved in any of this now. 460 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,960 What, and let two women get murdered? 461 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,960 PHONE VIBRATES Look, I've... I've got to go. 462 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,960 That's them now. 463 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,640 Robbie, you can't go, lad. Got to go, Matt. 464 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,960 What - are you stupid, lad? You can't go! I've got to go. 465 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,960 Robbie, wait! Robbie, listen, you can't go. 466 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:54,960 I've got to. 467 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,960 Look, you're making a mistake. 468 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Well, apart from knocking him out and tying him up, 469 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,960 there was nothing else I could do. LOWLES: 'This is going badly wrong.' 470 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960 We'll have to push the immunity with the police, you know. 471 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,960 'If they think he's the grass, they'll chop him up.' 472 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960 Trust me, I know what these fucking neo-Nazis are like. 473 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,960 So, we put it up on the website immediately? 474 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,960 'We have to get the police's attention. 475 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,160 'Robbie needs immunity.' Let's do it. 476 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:21,960 Nice one. 477 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,960 OK. Ta-ra. 478 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,960 All right, mate? Wait a minute. 479 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:51,480 We're waiting for Chris. 480 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,960 Come on. 481 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,160 Wh-Where are we going? 482 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:08,960 For a walk. 483 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,640 We can't talk in there. 484 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,960 Why... Why can't we talk in the gym? 485 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,960 Because we can't. 486 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,000 'I've just uploaded it to the website. 487 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,960 'Let's see what happens.' 488 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:13,960 Sit down. 489 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,960 So, what's going on? 490 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,960 We're now certain that we've got a rat. 491 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,480 H-How do you know that? 492 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960 Jack's dad told me that he'd been arrested not for hate speech 493 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,960 or for being a member of National Action... 494 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,960 but for plotting to kill the MP. 495 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,640 Who do you think it is, mate? 496 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:44,960 Dunno. 497 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,960 Oh, come on, lad, you must have some idea. Think. 498 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,960 I've not got any... any ideas. 499 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Wh-Who do you think it is? 500 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,960 We know who it is. 501 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,960 Who? 502 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,960 Garron Helm. 503 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:20,960 Garron? 504 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,960 Well, it can't be anyone else. 505 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,320 But wh-why him? 506 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,960 The time he posted those tweets about the Jewish MP. 507 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Luciana Berger. Remember? 508 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,960 He gets arrested, gets questioned by the police, 509 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:36,960 and the next thing is, he's apologising. 510 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320 That's probably when he got turned. That's what we're thinking. 511 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,960 What, and you think he's... he's been doing this ever since? 512 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,960 We're pretty sure of it, mate. 513 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,960 OK. So... 514 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,960 wh-what do we do now? 515 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,640 Are you with us, Robbie? 516 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,960 Yeah. 517 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,320 Yeah, I mean, if... 518 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:05,960 if you're sure it's him, yeah. 519 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,800 Good. 520 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,960 Because we need to know who our friends are... 521 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480 and who our enemies are. 522 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:15,960 And if there's any other traitors. 523 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:46,960 Ha. 524 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,800 So you do still live around here, then. 525 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,480 Lenny! 526 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:52,960 I can't believe it, mate. 527 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,960 When did you get out? 528 00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:02,960 Released on bail three days ago. 529 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:04,960 That's... That's great news. Ah. 530 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:08,960 How... How's Sylvia? 531 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,000 She must be over the moon. 532 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,960 Aye, she's very happy. 533 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,000 Do you know, I'm disappointed in you, Matthew. 534 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800 Oh, yeah? 535 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Why's that? 536 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,640 18 months I did, and you never come to see me once. 537 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,800 I-I kept meaning to, but I-I've... 538 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:29,960 I've been tied up with things. 539 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,480 I'm sorry, Lenny. 540 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,960 Tied up, aye? Yeah. Work and that. 541 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,960 Out of sight, out of mind, is it? 542 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,960 SOFT CLUNKING 543 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,480 Yeah, how's about tonight? 544 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,960 Tonight? 545 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,960 Er, yeah, sure. 546 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,000 Let's meet, have a drink, 547 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,960 talk about... 548 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,960 everything. 549 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,960 Usual place, eight o'clock, OK? 550 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:09,960 Great. 551 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,960 I'll see you later, Lenny. 552 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:15,960 See you tonight. 553 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,960 'I didn't know Lenny was out.' 554 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Why didn't anybody tell me? 555 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Yeah, well, that's Special Branch for you. 556 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,960 He knows it was me that grassed him up - I could hear it in his voice. 557 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,960 Lenny's a dangerous man. 558 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,960 He's a violent racist with links to Loyalist terrorists. 559 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,960 He was known at Searchlight long before you came to talk to us. 560 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Getting him off the street's not grassing - 561 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,800 it's called doing the right thing. 562 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:43,960 Yeah, that's easy for you to say. 563 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,800 What's this? 564 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,320 It's a ticket to Melbourne, Australia. 565 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,960 You'll be safe there. 566 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,960 I know people who can help you. They're gonna give you a job. 567 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,960 Look, you can... You can still be you, but you'll be... 568 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,960 You'll be far enough away to make a fresh start. 569 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,960 It's the only way, Matthew. 570 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,960 PHONE VIBRATES 571 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,000 Hello? ROBBIE: 'They think it's Garron.' 572 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,960 Thank fuck for that. 573 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,800 What do you think they're gonna do to him? 574 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:28,960 I honestly don't know what they'll do. 575 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960 Well, did they say when they were gonna try and get a grip at Garron? 576 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:33,960 No. 577 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:34,960 And you put one fire out, 578 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,960 and another one pops up straight away. 579 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,960 I'm starving. Are you hungry, lad? 580 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,160 We had some good news today. 581 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,320 The police have finally agreed to offer you immunity from prosecution. 582 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960 That's against being a member of a banned organisation 583 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,800 and having knowledge of what... Renshaw was planning on doing. 584 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,960 But if you've done anything else, then you're on your own - that's it. 585 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,640 There's nothing else. Good. 586 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,960 Listen, Rob, in exchange for the immunity, they, er... 587 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960 The police want you to give them everyone, not just Renshaw. 588 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,000 No. I'm only talking about Renshaw. That was the deal. 589 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,960 What you gonna do? Are you gonna stay in National Action 590 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:21,960 and help them cut up Garron Helm 591 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,320 and fucking pour battery acid all over him? 592 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,960 G-Garron can be warned off. 593 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,000 The rest of us, we can keep our heads down. 594 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,480 No, don't be stupid. 595 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,480 I'm sorry, mate, but that's not gonna work. 596 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,800 Why not? 597 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,960 Because this afternoon, I put out a big spread on our website 598 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,960 showing pictures of the gym and Lythgoe, 599 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,960 explaining that the organisation was still up and running. 600 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,960 For fuck's sake, why would you... Er, do you want to go to jail? 601 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,320 I had no choice, Robbie. 602 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,960 I had to force the police into giving you immunity. 603 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,960 Just means it's gonna be all over the papers now. 604 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,960 Look, I... 605 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,960 I thought I could trust you. 606 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:02,960 But all you care about is... 607 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,960 yourself and your fucking organisation. 608 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,960 Well, that's not why I published. Oh, it's not, no? Is it not, no? 609 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,800 So it's got nothing to do with making a splash in the tabloids, 610 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,160 printing Hope Not fucking Hate everywhere, 611 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,480 making you look like Billy Big Bollocks, no?! 612 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:19,960 Robbie! 613 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:20,960 Come here! 614 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,960 Robbie, don't walk away from me. 615 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Come here, lad. What?! 616 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,960 Look, it's over. 617 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,960 It was the first time you picked up your phone and sent me that text. 618 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,960 You knew that. I'm not grassing anybody up. 619 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,960 Who are you trying to protect, eh? 620 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,160 Look, they were all happy that Jo Cox got murdered. 621 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,960 They were all happy to sit there 622 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,960 and watch two innocent women get killed. 623 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,800 They're my mates. 624 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,960 No, they're not. They're not! 625 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,320 What do you know about it? 626 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960 A lot more than you think. 627 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,000 Look, do you honestly think 628 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,960 if Lythgoe and all the others had any proof 629 00:35:59,960 --> 00:36:01,320 that it was you and not Garron Helm, 630 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,960 they wouldn't hesitate to chop you into little pieces? 631 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,960 I've never had... I've never had mates before. 632 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:06,960 I've never had friends. 633 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,960 Mate, you don't need friends like that. 634 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,960 Hey, I'll be your fucking friend. 635 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960 But you've got to do the right thing here, Rob. 636 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,960 You know that, lad. 637 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960 You've got to tell the police everything. 638 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:27,960 Come here. 639 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,960 OK, if we could all confirm for the tape who's present today. 640 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,480 I'm Detective Sergeant Donkor and with me is my colleague, 641 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,960 Detective Constable Buckley. 642 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,960 Erm... 643 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,320 Robbie Mullen. 644 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,800 And I am Mr Mullen's solicitor, Darren Clarke. 645 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,160 OK. So, Robbie, 646 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,960 I'd like to begin by asking you if you are a terrorist. 647 00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,960 What? 648 00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:02,960 I don't think this kind of approach is going to be helpful. 649 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,960 Can you confirm for us whether or not you are a terrorist? 650 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,960 Why are you even asking me questions like that? 651 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,960 Well, if we're gonna provide you with immunity from prosecution 652 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,960 for certain offences, you must begin by making 653 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,000 a full and frank confession with regard to those offences. 654 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,000 I thought I was here to help you STOP people from being terrorists. 655 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:22,960 What he's referring to, Robbie, 656 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,960 is your membership of National Action 657 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,960 after its proscription as a terrorist organisation. 658 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,960 That would, in theory, I suppose, make you a terrorist. 659 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,960 So... are you a terrorist? 660 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,960 If you say so. No. That's not good enough. 661 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,960 I think my client has made his position clear. I need you to say... 662 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,800 "Yes, I am a terrorist", or the deal is off, Robbie. 663 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,960 Yes... 664 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,800 I am a terrorist. 665 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,960 Good. 666 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,960 How do you feel about Jo Cox? 667 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:08,960 I feel sorry for her. 668 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,480 Nobody deserves to be murdered like she was. 669 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,960 We've found some comments made by National Action 670 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,960 on social media after her death. 671 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,320 In one of them, they called her a traitor. 672 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,800 Is that what you thought she was, Robbie? Well... 673 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,960 ..I thought that before she was murdered. 674 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,960 So, in your eyes, the policies she pursued 675 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,640 made her a traitor to this country. Is that right? 676 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960 Because she welcomed immigration? 677 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,960 We've got too many people in this country. 678 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,640 We can't cope, so... So she's a traitor? 679 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:44,960 Yeah. 680 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:50,960 Do you dislike immigrants, Robbie? 681 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,960 I couldn't care less about them. I just... 682 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,160 ..don't think we need any more. 683 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,160 Should Jews be exterminated? 684 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960 You don't have to answer that. 685 00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:01,960 No, I... 686 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,960 That was Jack who made them comments, not me. 687 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,960 Do you think this country should be for whites only - 688 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,320 racially pure? 689 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,160 Look, I know... 690 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:16,960 I've made them comments in chatrooms and that in the past, and... 691 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,960 ..I can tell by your faces you've obviously got copies 692 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,960 of what I've said. So, what about now? 693 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 You still feel that way? 694 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960 I don't know how I feel any more. It's confusing. 695 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,960 Are you still a racist, Robbie? 696 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,960 I don't think so. 697 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,320 Don't know. 698 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,480 Why did you go to Hope Not Hate and not us, Robbie? 699 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:54,960 Look, I didn't know what to do, where to go, at the beginning. 700 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,960 I was just putting the feelers out. 701 00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,960 Well, if you knew of illegal activity, 702 00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,960 you should be going to the police, not to a bunch of amateurs. 703 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,960 Matthew knows the world that I'm in. 704 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,960 Matthew Collins... is a joke. 705 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,960 You know he was a member of the National Front and the BNP? 706 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:12,960 Yeah, of course I did. 707 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,960 That's why I went to him in the first place. 708 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,480 He grassed up a load of his mates back in the '90s, 709 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,960 and because he didn't work with the police, 710 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,480 he had to go on the run, hide out in Australia for a number of years. 711 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,960 He's only interested in self-glorification, Robbie. 712 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,960 If he thinks you can help him, he'll use you. 713 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,000 When he's finished with you, he'll... 714 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,960 dump you without a second thought, go looking for the next mug. 715 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,160 Hope Not Hate aren't your friends. 716 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,960 They just want to exploit you. 717 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,320 Immunity's one thing - 718 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,480 it means you can't be prosecuted for your links to National Action - 719 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,960 but it won't protect you from those who might seek to do you harm. 720 00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,960 Look, to do this properly, Robbie, 721 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,960 you need to sever all ties with Hope Not Hate, 722 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,960 come into the witness protection programme, 723 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:56,960 and be our witness. 724 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,960 Look, can I get a drink, please, something? 725 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,960 This is the way it works. 726 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,960 We rehouse you, we give you a new identity 727 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:11,960 and we help you find a job. 728 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,960 It's your chance for a clean break. 729 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,960 You can leave all this behind you and become someone else. 730 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,320 What if I don't want to become somebody else? 731 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,960 Means you won't have to look over your shoulder 732 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:24,960 for the rest of your life. What about my mam? 733 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,960 My sister? 734 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Like I say, you'd be wiping the slate clean. 735 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,960 Means you won't be able to see them any more, Robbie. 736 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,640 How long for? 737 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:34,960 Forever. 738 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,960 You have to understand... 739 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,960 it's for their safety as much as yours. 740 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,960 I got it all wrong. 741 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:13,960 I know who the rat is now. 742 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,960 Can you confirm your name for the tape? 743 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:25,480 Robbie Mullen. 744 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:31,960 Here you go. Ta. 745 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:39,960 Go on. 746 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,960 He's not gonna do the witness protection. 747 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,960 Well, that would have made our lives a lot easier. 748 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,960 Well, I couldn't say anything, could I? 749 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,960 I mean, I made the same... 750 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,960 decision myself 20-odd years ago, didn't I? 751 00:42:59,960 --> 00:43:00,960 I know how he feels. 752 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,960 The lad's shitting himself. 753 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,800 They'll just erase everything, like he never existed. 754 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960 And no matter what they tell you... 755 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,960 the police always end up putting you in some... 756 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,960 shitty tower block in Plymouth. 757 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:17,960 He's gonna be unprotected. 758 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,960 Won't take them long to figure out 759 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960 he's the only one who hasn't been arrested. 760 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:29,960 Well, he's our walk-in. 761 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,960 No more to say about it. 762 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:36,160 Thanks, mate. He's our responsibility. 763 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,960 Where you gonna put him? 764 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,960 I'll think of somewhere. 765 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,960 Get your head down, Rob. 766 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:22,800 Where's your dog? 767 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,640 Me mum's got her. ENGINE STARTS 768 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,960 Thing is, now, whenever my name's mentioned, 769 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,960 everyone'll say "the grass" after it. 770 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,960 It'll always be "Robbie Mullen the grass". 771 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,960 No, what you've done is not grassing. 772 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,640 It's called doing the right thing. 773 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,960 You never told me that you've been through what's happened to me now. 774 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:55,960 Well, you never asked. 775 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,960 Get some sleep, Robbie. We've got a while yet. 776 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960 Robbie? Robbie, come on, lad, wake up. 777 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960 Where are we? 778 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,960 Come on. 779 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:37,960 Be quiet. 780 00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,320 Ally, this is... Robbie. 781 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,000 He's gonna stay with us for a few days. 782 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,480 Robbie, this is my wife, Ally. 783 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,320 Hiya. 784 00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:55,960 Hiya. 785 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,960 Subtitles by accessibility@itv.com 59129

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