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WILLIAM SHATNER:
A trailblazing biologist determined to design
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a half-man, half-beast hybrid.
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A gifted neuroscientist
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whose machine can
manipulate the human mind.
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And an eccentric aristocrat
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who inspired the world's
greatest mad scientist.
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For thousands of years,
mankind's great thinkers
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have made enormous contributions
to scientific progress.
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Yet, throughout the centuries,
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there have been more than
a few men of science who-
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while brilliant
in their own right-
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pushed the boundaries
of experimentation
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to the edge of madness.
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They were renegades,
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known for bizarre experiments
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involving human-animal hybrids,
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mind control devices,
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and even...
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unspeakable torture.
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What were these mad scientists
really trying to achieve?
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And what led them
down a strange, dark path
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in their pursuit of knowledge?
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Well, that is what
we'll try and find out.
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? ?
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A Chinese district court
finds biophysicist He Jiankui
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guilty of illegal
medical practices.
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His crime involves
a highly controversial procedure
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where the DNA of three female
embryos is genetically edited
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for the purpose of creating
HIV-immune babies.
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The academic
and medical communities
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call the radical experiment
unsafe and unethical...
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and He Jiankui is added
to a long list of geniuses
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whose dangerous acts
have deemed them
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"mad scientists."
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NINA FARAHANY:
I think there are so many questions
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about what motivated him.
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Scientists are driven by
the same kinds of motivations
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that other humans are driven by.
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In the same way that people want
to gain fame or notoriety,
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scientists may want
to gain fame or notoriety, too.
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Sometimes, that ambition
drives them to cut corners
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or to do unethical experiments
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because it could lead
to a major breakthrough
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that would advance their career.
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And that desire to become
famous, to get a Nobel Prize,
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to be internationally
recognized,
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can really, in many ways,
poison the work
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rather than improve it.
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ALEX BOESE:
There's one particular
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psychological bias that
scientists are more prone to
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than your regular person.
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And that's the idea that
they can get seduced
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by the idea of
their own brilliance.
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They can get attached
to an idea,
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and they will go
to extraordinary lengths
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to be proven right.
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The mad scientist
represents this idea.
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(thunder crashes)
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SHATNER:
When we think of a mad scientist,
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we often imagine
an obsessed madman
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performing extreme
and disturbing experiments
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in a dark laboratory...
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...but where does
that image come from?
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The term "the mad scientist"
really enters the mainstream
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in 1818 with
Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
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Victor Frankenstein was
the doctor,
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and she described him
as a mad scientist,
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and that's really
the character that we think of
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when we think
of a mad scientist.
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Victor Frankenstein created
a humanoid figure.
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A monstrous humanoid figure.
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He was playing God,
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and therefore, he was
the ultimate mad scientist.
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Mad scientists were
fanatically driven to experiment
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well away from
the eyes of the population,
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and often these experiments,
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they're unethical,
they're immoral.
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They could be grotesque
and horrifying,
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as with Dr. Frankenstein.
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WALTER GRUDEN:
The stereotype of the mad scientist
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comes from
the early 19th century.
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We know that, at that time,
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many scientists worked
in isolation,
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and so, this idea of
a mad scientist,
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working by themselves
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in some dungeon
or laboratory somewhere,
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who perpetrated some great crime
against humanity,
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this comes from
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this Victorian-era way
of conducting science.
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SHATNER:
While stories of evil geniuses
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have frightened and intrigued us
for hundreds of years...
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...in reality, history can point
to many gifted scientists
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whose work could be
called progress...
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or perversion.
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And perhaps the most
surprising example of this
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is a brilliant mind
from the 17th century
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who laid the foundation
for modern science...
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Sir Isaac Newton.
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Isaac Newton was
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an extraordinary,
extraordinary genius.
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He invented
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a way of expressing
how the world works
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in his mammoth book
Principia Mathematica,
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which was a bestseller
in the day.
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Basically, he was showing people
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how to make sense of the world
through mathematical formula.
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ROBERT ILIFFE:
Newton articulated the three laws of motion.
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He devised the principle
of universal gravitation.
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So, I think it is fair to say
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that even his contemporaries
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thought that the Principia
Mathematica was extraordinary,
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and it almost put an end
to science.
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That is to say,
there was very little
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left to do after Newton's work.
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SHATNER:
Yet despite Newton's groundbreaking achievements,
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to some,
the "Father of Physics" was also
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the most famous mad scientist
of his time.
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JOHN HORGAN: If you're talking
about the trope of the mad scientist,
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Isaac Newton is a classic
example in the sense that,
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on the one hand,
he is an emblem
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of human rationality,
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of using human reason
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to figure out how nature works.
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But Newton was also a crackpot,
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we'd have to say,
in modern terms.
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He was a practitioner
in alchemy,
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which is this kind of occult
precursor of modern chemistry.
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He actually did experiments,
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hoping he could find
the philosopher's stone,
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which would be a way
to turn lead into gold.
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SHATNER:
In addition to his interest in alchemy,
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Newton's most notable
achievements include
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the invention of calculus,
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the creation of
the reflecting telescope,
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and groundbreaking work
in optics.
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But his determination
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to understand the composition
of light and color-
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and how we see them-
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would lead him to conduct
gruesome experiments...
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on his own eyes.
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Newton's experiments
with his eyeballs
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are extraordinary.
There's nothing like it.
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What he's trying to find out is,
how do we see things?
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We have two separate notebooks
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where he describes in detail
what he did,
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what the effects were, because
they damaged his eyesight.
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We know that his eyesight was
damaged by looking at the Sun.
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So much so that,
in the last months of his life,
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he recalled that he could still
see the Sun if he shut his eyes.
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That he'd clearly
damaged his eyes
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so much that this lasted
for 60 years.
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RICHARD SPENCE: Newton was really
interested in understanding sight.
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So, in the pursuit of this,
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he took what he called
a bodkin, a large needle,
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and he decided to see
what would happen
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if he stuck it into his eye
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and pushed it back
as far as it would go.
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And he saw all these
little lights going off,
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because if the eye is injured,
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it will send little screaming
light signals to your brain.
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Now, you know, most people
probably wouldn't do that.
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Isaac Newton was kind of crazy.
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IWAN MORUS:
On the one hand,
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it's perfectly possible
to understand
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the rationale of
what he was doing.
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It's a perfectly
sensible question:
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what does happen
to your sight when the eyeball
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is distorted in various ways?
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But the thought that a good way
of answering that question
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would be to kind of
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push a needle around
the back of your eye...
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It's just this horrible,
horrible thought.
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No sane person would do
something like that.
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But Newton clearly thought
that this was
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a perfectly sane thing to do.
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You know,
there lies the mad scientist.
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SHATNER:
A scruffy-looking dog is found injured
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and brought
to an animal hospital.
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But upon examination,
doctors soon realize
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this is not a typical canine.
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In fact,
this four-legged creature
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is an entirely new
hybrid animal-
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a unique combination of
domesticated dog
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and Pampas fox.
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Now identified as a dogxim,
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its origins are unknown.
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Was it created in nature,
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like the coyote-wolf hybrid
called coywolves,
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or was the dogxim man-made,
like the liger,
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which is half lion, half tiger?
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Our fascination
with hybrid creatures
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can be traced back
for thousands of years,
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and many times,
these freaks of nature
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include strange,
unthinkable combinations
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that are part animal
and part human.
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If you go back and look
at Paleolithic art,
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40,000 years old,
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they were painting on cave walls
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hybrids of men and birds,
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women and bison.
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Another famous example
is the Sphinx in Egypt.
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The body of a lion
and the head of a person.
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And one of the driving forces
behind this was
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the idea that it might
have been possible,
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using magic,
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to actually acquire
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some of the powers
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(growling)
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SHATNER:
While tales of half-man, half-animal creatures
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have been part of folklore and
mythology since ancient times,
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has modern science
now reached a point
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where human hybrids
could become a reality?
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This mad notion was the focus
of a Russian scientist
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with a disturbing vision.
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Dictator Joseph Stalin launches
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the first Five-Year Plan
for the Soviet Union.
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Heavy industries like steel,
coal and machinery
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are the focus of
rapid industrialization.
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Farmers are pressured
to increase their harvests
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to support
the growing workforce.
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And scientists are tasked
with figuring out
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how to breed stronger livestock.
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Leading this effort is
a Soviet biologist named...
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Ilya Ivanov.
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Ilya Ivanov started his career
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as a biologist
under the czarist regime,
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and one of the things
that he was very interested in
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was the idea
of the artificial insemination
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of horses and cattle.
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So this was a way to take
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particular desirable
biological traits-
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find the stallion
who had the traits you wanted,
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and if you milked the sperm
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and artificially inseminated it,
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that one horse can fertilize
five thousand mares.
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BOESE:
Before the 20th century,
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artificial insemination was
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looked at as something
that just would not work.
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Ivanov helped to prove
that this was not the case.
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And he began
using these techniques
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to create strange new creatures.
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He created
a zebra-donkey hybrid
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called a zedonk
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and a bison-cow hybrid
called a zubron.
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And it was amazingly successful.
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He became the foremost expert
in the world
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on artificial insemination.
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But then,
he had an even bigger idea.
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He thought, could we breed
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a human with a chimpanzee?
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SHATNER:
To most of us, the idea of
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a half-human,
half-chimpanzee hybrid
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sounds, well, insane.
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But Ilya Ivanov was convinced
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such a combination was possible,
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and he became obsessed
with the idea
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of creating an entirely
new species called...
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humanzee.
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FARAHANY:
Ilya Ivanov wanted to create a crossover
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between apes and humans.
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He called these
the "humanzee" experiments.
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It was government-funded
research.
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Part of what people believe
he was trying to show
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is that humans really did
evolve from apes.
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And by showing this kind of
interspecies impregnation,
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it would, in theory, prove
that kind of evolutionary link.
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As far as we know, Ilya Ivanov
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tried this
in a lot of different ways.
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He tried to get human women
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to be willing to be inseminated
artificially by ape sperm.
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He tried to transplant tissue
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from the uterus of a human woman
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into an ape.
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He was willing to do it
in any way that was possible.
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BOESE:
For one of his experiments,
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in the summer of 1927,
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Ivanov managed to bring back
to the Soviet Union
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a male orangutan.
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He named him Tarzan.
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And he actually managed to find
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five female volunteers
in the Soviet Union.
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One of the women
memorably commented that
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"I'm willing
to volunteer for this
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because I feel that my life
has no more sense anymore."
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So, I think he was somehow
tapping into the suicidal women
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in the Soviet Union who were
just gonna abandon all hope
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to participate
in this gruesome experiment.
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But Ivanov had failed
in his attempt,
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because the orangutan
promptly died.
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Soon after that,
one of his colleagues
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reported him for
counterrevolutionary activities
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and he got arrested
in one of Stalin's purges.
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They exiled him to Kazakhstan.
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Two years later,
he died of a stroke.
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That was the end of
his research project.
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SHATNER: Was Ilya Ivanov's dedication
to his delusional hybrid project
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simply to prove that human
beings had evolved from apes...
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...or was there
a more diabolical plan
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driving the 10-year odyssey
to create a humanzee?
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Why would a Soviet scientist
want to create a humanzee?
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Well, we don't really know,
but we can take some guesses.
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One of those would be
that he was trying to
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create a super soldier.
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When you talk
about a chimpanzee,
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you're talking about
more stamina, more strength.
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If you can pull some of
those traits into a soldier,
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you would have, essentially,
a real-life Captain America,
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and if you ask me, it's probably
what Ivanov was trying to do.
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SHATNER:
While it's widely believed
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that Ivanov's controversial
experiments failed...
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his work still raises
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some very important
ethical questions.
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Even if Ivanov could create
an ape-man in a laboratory,
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should he have
ever been allowed
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to try in the first place?
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The humanzee experiments raise
so many ethical concerns.
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Ilya Ivanov really regarded,
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you know,
whether it was humans or apes,
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not as, you know,
beings that required
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and demanded our respect,
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but really as instruments
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for his different
scientific experiments.
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So, imagine for a moment
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that the humanzee experiments
had actually succeeded.
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We have no idea
what the consequences
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for the woman would have been.
Would it have
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destroyed her health?
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And how would
we regard that species?
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Would we think that was a human
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that had all of the same rights
as a human?
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It's almost impossible
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to grapple with
the full set of implications
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of an experiment like that.
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Why, for thousands of years,
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have humans been so obsessed
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with creating hybrid creatures?
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One thing that many
mad scientists have in common
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is that they rarely consider
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the consequences
of their experiments.
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Which was the case
with the Harvard professor
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whose research into mind control
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may have turned
one of his students
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into a dangerous madman.
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SHATNER: Since
its founding in 1636,
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some of the brightest minds
in science
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have taught at
this esteemed institution...
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...including James Watson,
a pioneer in the science of DNA,
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Nobel-Prize-winning physicist
Sheldon Glashow,
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and the highly controversial
psychologist
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named Dr. Henry Murray.
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GENTILE:
Henry Murray was a psychologist
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who, during World War II,
worked for the OSS.
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The OSS is the precursor
to the CIA.
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So this is
military intelligence.
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And what he was trying
to find out was,
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how far can you push
a man before he breaks?
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He was testing
the limits of soldiers
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put under interrogation
and pressure.
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After the war,
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Murray went to work at Harvard
as a psychologist.
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COBB:
During his time at Harvard,
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Henry Murray was very interested
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in how people respond
under extreme stress,
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how personality is shaped
and changes.
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He was committed
to do so at any cost.
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And if that meant
subjecting students
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to extreme stress to do it,
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then Henry Murray was,
was okay with that.
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SHATNER:
At Harvard,
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Murray began
a new research project
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titled "Multiform Assessments
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of Personality Development
Among Gifted College Men."
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He would experiment
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with intelligent
Harvard undergraduates
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to observe
how they responded to extreme
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psychological stress.
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GENTILE:
He wasn't looking for
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students that had
a sense of self-confidence.
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He wanted students that were
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feeling isolated, out of place,
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having trouble
acclimating to college.
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He wanted weak people
to be part of this experiment
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not strong ones,
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because the weak mind
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is just much easier to break.
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So, he conducted
very in-depth interviews
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with these students that were
potentially for the study.
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He wanted to know
what their values were,
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what their fears were,
what they believed,
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what made them proud,
what made them nervous,
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what made them ashamed.
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And, from there,
selected 22 students
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to be part of the program.
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SHATNER:
From 1941 to 1962,
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Dr. Murray engaged
five groups of 22 men.
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Each group committed to
200 hours of intensive testing
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from their sophomore
to senior years.
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After collecting information
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about each subject's life,
beliefs and values,
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they were confronted with
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"vehement, sweeping and
personally abusive attacks,"
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all intended to trigger
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crippling levels of stress
and mental collapse.
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TONY McMAHON:
He was using tactics
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that he'd learnt working
in the intelligence services
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during the Second World War.
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Murray's methodology was to,
first of all,
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have a brightly lit room
in which he'd create
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what were termed
"confrontational scenarios."
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So, his subjects would
be covered in electrodes
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and then basically shouted at,
yelled at,
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and this was hugely distressing.
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COBB:
In essence, Murray would spend many sessions
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just berating students,
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and they would use those things
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that were dear to those students
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to deflate their self-esteem.
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To make them feel
like they were worthless.
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To give them a sense that,
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the things that they believe,
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the things that define them,
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were horrible things.
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Even Murray,
by his own admission, said
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that these were
vehement assaults on the ego
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with the intention
of breaking individuals down.
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There was some controversy
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and some dissentment
among his colleagues
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that he was
a fringe psychologist.
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And when one considers
lonely undergrads
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and the developmental period
in which they're in,
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that kind of treatment,
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that kind of torture,
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it stays with the person.
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The students of Murray's
experiments, 25 years later,
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noted serious
negative side effects
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of both physical health,
mental health, social health
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that remained with them.
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(yelling)
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SHATNER:
What motivated Dr. Murray
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to conduct such disturbing
and cruel experiments
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on vulnerable young minds?
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Was it a radical act
in the name of science,
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or was there a bigger force
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influencing
the psychologist's mad project?
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While it's a matter of debate,
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some believe
Henry Murray may have been
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working for
the U.S. government's
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Central Intelligence Agency.
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There are rumors
that he was, in fact,
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still working for the CIA,
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trying to develop techniques
of mind control.
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I mean, when asked,
Murray was quite cagey
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about, you know,
just what he was trying to do.
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Though I do sometimes wonder,
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was Murray really capable of
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controlling the way
other people thought
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as a result of his experiments?
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SHATNER: Is it possible that Murray's
diabolical Harvard experiment
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was secretly a mind control
program for the CIA?
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We can only speculate.
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But what we do know
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is that one of
Murray's test subjects
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died in a supermax prison
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for a crime spree that caused
death and destruction
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across the United States.
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His name was Ted Kaczynski,
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also known as The Unabomber.
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Ted Kaczynski was only 16 years
old when he was at Harvard.
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This is a very,
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very impressionable
developmental period
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and one can't help but think,
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what exactly was the role
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of Murray's experiments
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on Ted Kaczynski's
future behavior?
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The Unabomber carried out
a series of bombings
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in which
three people were killed
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and 23 injured.
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And, of course,
people have wondered
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was it as a result of
Murray's experiments
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that Kaczynski went on
to become
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this sociopathic serial killer?
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We know that for a fact
from his manifesto,
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where Kaczynski
specifically went after
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the American
scientific community
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and he attacked psychology
as a field.
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Now, we can't make a direct,
exact correlation that,
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did this experiment
in mind control
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cause Ted Kaczynski
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to become, essentially,
a domestic terrorist?
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We can't do that.
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But certainly these experiments
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built Kaczynski's worldview.
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The psychological
mind control experiments
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conducted by Dr. Murray
are distressing,
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to say the least.
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But there's another
mad scientist
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whose fascination
with electric medicine
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led to the creation of
manipulative-
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and shocking-
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experiments.
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SHATNER:
Cardiologist Dr. Claude S. Beck
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is performing
open heart surgery...
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...when his patient suddenly
goes into cardiac arrest.
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In that moment,
Beck decides to use
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an untested invention
of his own design
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and saves his patient's life
by shocking him
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with 1500 volts of electricity.
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Dr. Beck's invention,
called a defibrillator...
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...and other devices,
like the pacemaker
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and the cochlear implant,
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has transformed lives
through electric medicine.
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But while it's easy
to see the benefits
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00:25:43,750 --> 00:25:46,667
electricity has offered
medical advancement,
514
00:25:46,875 --> 00:25:49,625
it is not without controversy.
515
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:54,667
Such is the case
surrounding a troubling tool
516
00:25:54,875 --> 00:25:57,000
invented by
a brilliant brain scientist
517
00:25:57,208 --> 00:25:59,542
named Jos� Delgado.
518
00:26:01,083 --> 00:26:02,833
Jos� Delgado, I'd say,
519
00:26:03,042 --> 00:26:06,833
is the most flamboyant,
outrageous,
520
00:26:06,958 --> 00:26:11,208
fascinating scientist I've ever
interviewed personally.
521
00:26:12,417 --> 00:26:15,083
He moved to Yale in 1950.
522
00:26:15,208 --> 00:26:16,500
And while he was there,
523
00:26:16,501 --> 00:26:18,332
over the next
two and a half decades,
524
00:26:18,333 --> 00:26:21,583
he did all these experiments
involving brain implants.
525
00:26:22,792 --> 00:26:24,625
And he spelled this out
in a book
526
00:26:24,750 --> 00:26:27,958
that was published in 1969
527
00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:31,333
called Physical Control
of the Mind.
528
00:26:31,334 --> 00:26:34,166
For example,
he developed something
529
00:26:34,167 --> 00:26:35,625
called the stimoceiver,
530
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:39,875
which is a device
about the size of a half dollar
531
00:26:40,042 --> 00:26:42,167
that could be inserted
inside the skull,
532
00:26:42,292 --> 00:26:44,667
and had electrodes
inserted into the brain
533
00:26:44,833 --> 00:26:46,917
that could both detect signals
534
00:26:46,918 --> 00:26:49,541
being passed from one part
of the brain to another
535
00:26:49,542 --> 00:26:51,167
and also stimulate the brain
536
00:26:51,292 --> 00:26:53,167
to get various effects.
537
00:26:54,167 --> 00:26:58,292
Through this period, Delgado did
a lot of experiments on monkeys.
538
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:01,042
He had all these monkeys
in a chamber,
539
00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:05,292
and there was
one big alpha male bully and...
540
00:27:05,458 --> 00:27:07,208
and a bunch of females.
541
00:27:07,375 --> 00:27:09,333
Delgado put a stimoceiver
542
00:27:09,458 --> 00:27:11,500
in the brain of the male monkey,
543
00:27:11,583 --> 00:27:13,417
and when he pushed the lever,
544
00:27:13,542 --> 00:27:15,375
it would pacify the male
545
00:27:15,376 --> 00:27:17,207
and the male would
suddenly become
546
00:27:17,208 --> 00:27:19,078
meek and mild
and cower in the corner.
547
00:27:19,083 --> 00:27:21,667
There was a little bit of this
548
00:27:21,875 --> 00:27:25,708
kind of mad scientist
aspect of him.
549
00:27:25,875 --> 00:27:27,583
Through this period also,
550
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:29,458
Delgado had been experimenting
551
00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:33,167
not only on animals
but also on humans.
552
00:27:35,292 --> 00:27:37,750
So, in the 1950s, he was going
553
00:27:37,875 --> 00:27:39,792
into mental hospitals
554
00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:44,167
and inserting brain implants
into mental patients,
555
00:27:44,333 --> 00:27:47,167
most of whom had epilepsy
or schizophrenia.
556
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:50,708
He's trying to show
the power of these technologies
557
00:27:50,875 --> 00:27:53,583
for treating
severe mental illness,
558
00:27:53,750 --> 00:27:57,750
In his book
Physical Control of the Mind,
559
00:27:57,958 --> 00:28:01,250
he was showing that he could
control people's emotions.
560
00:28:01,417 --> 00:28:02,792
He could make them laugh,
561
00:28:02,917 --> 00:28:05,292
he could make them feel rage,
562
00:28:05,417 --> 00:28:08,500
just by pressing a button
563
00:28:08,708 --> 00:28:12,292
which was controlling
the, uh, the stimoceivers
564
00:28:12,458 --> 00:28:14,542
implanted in their brains.
565
00:28:14,543 --> 00:28:16,457
He wanted to take
the technology as-
566
00:28:16,458 --> 00:28:19,125
as far as it could possibly go.
567
00:28:19,126 --> 00:28:23,666
SHATNER: Delgado claimed that his
radical experiments with the stimoceiver
568
00:28:23,667 --> 00:28:26,875
showed evidence that human
behavior could be manipulated
569
00:28:27,042 --> 00:28:30,250
by applying electricity
to the brain.
570
00:28:32,167 --> 00:28:35,458
And to prove it, Delgado created
a public demonstration
571
00:28:35,625 --> 00:28:37,833
of his mind control machine
572
00:28:38,042 --> 00:28:40,125
after embedding his device
573
00:28:40,292 --> 00:28:42,792
in the brain of a bull.
574
00:28:42,917 --> 00:28:48,167
Delgado famously went
into a ring with a bull.
575
00:28:48,333 --> 00:28:50,792
And the only thing
he was holding in his hand
576
00:28:50,958 --> 00:28:53,500
was a radio receiver.
577
00:28:53,708 --> 00:28:56,500
And as the bull charged
toward him,
578
00:28:56,667 --> 00:28:57,917
he pressed a button
579
00:28:58,083 --> 00:29:00,000
and the bull suddenly stopped.
580
00:29:00,125 --> 00:29:02,500
And what he was trying to show
581
00:29:02,708 --> 00:29:05,542
was that it was possible
to control behavior
582
00:29:05,708 --> 00:29:07,833
of other species
through electrodes.
583
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,625
But what it also did
was show people
584
00:29:10,708 --> 00:29:14,000
how powerfully
the brain can be manipulated
585
00:29:14,167 --> 00:29:17,000
and induce fear in the public
586
00:29:17,167 --> 00:29:19,708
about the possibility
of brain control
587
00:29:19,917 --> 00:29:21,297
and external brain control
588
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:24,875
by what could be seen
as a mad scientist.
589
00:29:25,042 --> 00:29:27,333
The problem
with his technology is
590
00:29:27,458 --> 00:29:30,542
it isn't designed
to suddenly change somebody
591
00:29:30,750 --> 00:29:33,000
from charging at you
to stop charging at you.
592
00:29:33,125 --> 00:29:35,355
It's designed
to suddenly change behavior
593
00:29:35,458 --> 00:29:39,167
and to make people
or species into puppets.
594
00:29:40,625 --> 00:29:42,292
HORGAN:
Delgado had a vision
595
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,833
for humanity being reshaped
596
00:29:45,917 --> 00:29:48,458
by these technologies
that he was developing.
597
00:29:49,708 --> 00:29:52,500
In his book
Physical Control of the Mind,
598
00:29:52,625 --> 00:29:56,333
he said that technologies
like the one he was developing
599
00:29:56,417 --> 00:30:00,792
had the capacity to transform
human society for the better,
600
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,333
to create this kind of utopia,
601
00:30:03,417 --> 00:30:07,083
but he's describing his patients
as though they are puppets.
602
00:30:08,083 --> 00:30:10,333
He can make their limbs
move up and down.
603
00:30:10,458 --> 00:30:14,542
He can make them wave their arms
and clench their fists.
604
00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:17,667
He can make them
laugh on command.
605
00:30:17,833 --> 00:30:20,625
And what-what's creepy is that
606
00:30:20,792 --> 00:30:22,833
often these people thought
they were
607
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,500
doing these things
of their own free will.
608
00:30:25,501 --> 00:30:28,457
SPENCE:
Where does it cross the line
609
00:30:28,458 --> 00:30:31,667
between understanding
how the brain works
610
00:30:31,792 --> 00:30:36,292
and then making it work
in a particular way?
611
00:30:36,458 --> 00:30:39,583
So, if we could just
have a remote control,
612
00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:44,000
and press a button and make
them behave in certain ways,
613
00:30:44,167 --> 00:30:46,792
the next question becomes,
why not?
614
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,708
BOESE:
If we think of what Delgado was doing
615
00:30:51,875 --> 00:30:56,667
to control human movement
and behavior,
616
00:30:56,875 --> 00:31:00,000
then that raises the question of
617
00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:03,458
who gets to play God,
in that sense?
618
00:31:03,625 --> 00:31:07,667
Who-who, then,
gets to control that behavior?
619
00:31:07,833 --> 00:31:10,083
If we are like puppets,
620
00:31:10,292 --> 00:31:12,542
then who is pulling the strings?
621
00:31:15,875 --> 00:31:18,417
The idea of creating
an army of human puppets
622
00:31:18,542 --> 00:31:20,500
is certainly unnerving.
623
00:31:20,708 --> 00:31:25,833
But when it comes to conducting
diabolical human experiments,
624
00:31:26,042 --> 00:31:27,782
the medical atrocities committed
625
00:31:27,958 --> 00:31:31,500
during World War II stand alone,
626
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:35,333
and earned one mad scientist
627
00:31:35,542 --> 00:31:37,292
the terrifying nickname...
628
00:31:37,458 --> 00:31:40,000
"the Angel of Death."
629
00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:48,000
SHATNER: The Auschwitz-Birkenau
state museum, Poland.
630
00:31:50,250 --> 00:31:52,083
During World War II,
it was the site
631
00:31:52,292 --> 00:31:55,292
of some of the worst atrocities
in all of human history.
632
00:31:55,293 --> 00:31:58,332
Over one million
innocent victims
633
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:00,417
were murdered here by the Nazis.
634
00:32:01,333 --> 00:32:03,083
And later, survivors would speak
635
00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:05,833
of a sadistic doctor
stationed here,
636
00:32:06,042 --> 00:32:09,625
responsible for
truly horrific experiments
637
00:32:09,833 --> 00:32:11,708
on the prisoners,
638
00:32:11,875 --> 00:32:14,208
named Dr. Josef Mengele.
639
00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:17,917
MORUS:
There's no more notorious example
640
00:32:18,083 --> 00:32:21,167
of the extremes
of scientific experimentation
641
00:32:21,375 --> 00:32:24,958
than Josef Mengele at Auschwitz
642
00:32:25,042 --> 00:32:27,152
during the course of
the Second World War.
643
00:32:28,208 --> 00:32:32,000
His victims called Mengele
"The Angel of Death."
644
00:32:32,167 --> 00:32:34,817
When he came around,
they knew they were going to die
645
00:32:34,958 --> 00:32:38,583
in horrible, vicious ways.
646
00:32:40,083 --> 00:32:42,375
SPENCE:
Mengele joins the Nazi party in '37.
647
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,083
Early on,
he's actually a combat doctor.
648
00:32:46,208 --> 00:32:48,292
He's wounded
on the Russian front,
649
00:32:48,417 --> 00:32:50,500
sent back to Germany to recover,
650
00:32:50,708 --> 00:32:54,000
and then reassigned
as the chief medical officer
651
00:32:54,167 --> 00:32:58,000
of this prison industrial
extermination complex
652
00:32:58,167 --> 00:33:02,542
with an almost unlimited
supply of test subjects,
653
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:04,417
and given relatively free reign
654
00:33:04,583 --> 00:33:07,173
to conduct whatever research
it was that he wanted.
655
00:33:07,292 --> 00:33:09,875
That consisted of things like
656
00:33:09,876 --> 00:33:11,707
removing a kidney
from a prisoner
657
00:33:11,708 --> 00:33:14,082
and then putting them
back in their work detail
658
00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:16,673
to see whether or not
they could continue to do that.
659
00:33:16,792 --> 00:33:21,458
He deliberately infected
prisoners with various diseases.
660
00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:24,458
But he was very interested
in genetics.
661
00:33:24,625 --> 00:33:26,542
One of his favorite things
662
00:33:26,708 --> 00:33:28,958
was to work with children,
663
00:33:29,125 --> 00:33:31,083
particularly sets of twins.
664
00:33:31,208 --> 00:33:33,000
And he would take the twins
665
00:33:33,208 --> 00:33:35,625
and use one as the experiment
666
00:33:35,792 --> 00:33:38,042
and the other as a control.
667
00:33:38,208 --> 00:33:41,250
What is so inexplicable
about Mengele
668
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,875
is he could be so kind
and warm and gentle
669
00:33:45,042 --> 00:33:46,708
to these children one day,
670
00:33:46,709 --> 00:33:48,874
giving them chocolates,
giving them candy,
671
00:33:48,875 --> 00:33:52,792
and the next day, turn around
and torture and murder them.
672
00:33:52,958 --> 00:33:55,250
What kind of monster
does it take
673
00:33:55,417 --> 00:33:57,042
to do something like that?
674
00:33:57,208 --> 00:34:00,292
SHATNER:
What madness causes a man of science
675
00:34:00,417 --> 00:34:02,583
to become a sadistic monster?
676
00:34:02,584 --> 00:34:05,541
Some believe the answer
may be found
677
00:34:05,542 --> 00:34:09,042
by examining a secret Japanese
program during World War II.
678
00:34:13,708 --> 00:34:16,250
Tucked away in this city
of ten million people,
679
00:34:16,375 --> 00:34:19,458
a group of brick buildings
stand as a grim memorial.
680
00:34:20,708 --> 00:34:23,250
It is the home of
a research and development unit
681
00:34:23,417 --> 00:34:26,708
created by the Japanese
during their occupation of China
682
00:34:26,875 --> 00:34:29,208
in the 1930s and 1940s.
683
00:34:29,375 --> 00:34:32,458
And it is the place
where thousands of prisoners
684
00:34:32,625 --> 00:34:35,000
were the victims
of heinous experiments
685
00:34:35,167 --> 00:34:36,833
conducted under the direction
686
00:34:36,917 --> 00:34:40,292
of Senior Army Surgeon
Shiro Ishii.
687
00:34:40,458 --> 00:34:42,958
Shiro Ishii was born in 1892
688
00:34:43,083 --> 00:34:45,373
into a wealthy family,
a land-owning family.
689
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,333
His father grew rice
and made sake.
690
00:34:48,334 --> 00:34:51,374
Ishii, though, didn't want
to follow in Daddy's footsteps.
691
00:34:51,375 --> 00:34:53,625
Instead,
he wanted to go into medicine.
692
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:59,167
He joined the army
to become a military surgeon.
693
00:35:00,125 --> 00:35:03,083
Ishii was interested
in studying cholera,
694
00:35:03,208 --> 00:35:05,125
epidemic hemorrhagic fever,
695
00:35:05,126 --> 00:35:07,457
bubonic plague-
which was one of his favorites-
696
00:35:07,458 --> 00:35:09,542
but he also recognizes
697
00:35:09,708 --> 00:35:12,000
that you can weaponize
these diseases,
698
00:35:12,208 --> 00:35:16,333
so he proceeded
to examine biowarfare
699
00:35:16,458 --> 00:35:18,375
as an option for Japan.
700
00:35:21,250 --> 00:35:23,500
SHATNER:
To test bioweapons for Japan,
701
00:35:23,708 --> 00:35:26,667
Ishii formed
a military research group
702
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:29,333
known as Unit 731.
703
00:35:30,250 --> 00:35:33,875
And between 1937 and 1945,
704
00:35:34,083 --> 00:35:36,667
they performed
deranged experiments
705
00:35:36,875 --> 00:35:40,250
on thousands of
prisoners of war and civilians.
706
00:35:41,542 --> 00:35:44,958
General Ishii was focused
on the military research.
707
00:35:45,125 --> 00:35:48,167
But again,
the atrocities are unimaginable.
708
00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:51,000
These were usually
Chinese prisoners of war,
709
00:35:51,167 --> 00:35:54,833
but it was really
any non-Japanese.
710
00:35:54,958 --> 00:35:58,917
He infected patients with
tuberculosis, anthrax,
711
00:35:59,042 --> 00:36:00,833
all kinds of diseases,
712
00:36:00,958 --> 00:36:03,333
just to see what would happen
713
00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:06,833
and if he can find ways
to make his soldiers immune
714
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,292
or how to treat them.
715
00:36:09,417 --> 00:36:11,542
And this was his justification.
716
00:36:13,083 --> 00:36:16,875
SHATNER: It is estimated that
Shiro Ishii's bioweapons experiments
717
00:36:17,083 --> 00:36:19,833
killed over 10,000
test subjects.
718
00:36:23,333 --> 00:36:25,958
After World War II,
both Ishii and Mengele
719
00:36:26,125 --> 00:36:29,208
were never punished for
their crimes against humanity.
720
00:36:29,375 --> 00:36:32,083
But ever since their horrific
secret experiments
721
00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:34,000
were revealed to the world,
722
00:36:34,208 --> 00:36:36,000
we still don't understand
723
00:36:36,208 --> 00:36:38,000
why these deranged doctors
724
00:36:38,167 --> 00:36:40,875
would do such despicable things.
725
00:36:42,667 --> 00:36:46,125
One answer that Mengele
and Ishii both offered
726
00:36:46,333 --> 00:36:48,625
was that they were doing it
for nationalism.
727
00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:52,583
They were trying
to further, perhaps,
728
00:36:52,708 --> 00:36:55,208
important military aims
of their country.
729
00:36:55,375 --> 00:36:58,083
But I think, beyond that,
730
00:36:58,250 --> 00:36:59,833
part of the answer is that
731
00:37:00,042 --> 00:37:02,667
these two were
clearly psychopaths.
732
00:37:02,875 --> 00:37:05,292
They enjoyed doing this.
733
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:09,042
We really don't know
what would drive a person
734
00:37:09,208 --> 00:37:11,917
to dehumanize another person.
735
00:37:12,083 --> 00:37:14,042
What happens in their mind?
736
00:37:14,167 --> 00:37:16,167
Do they snap for some reason?
737
00:37:16,375 --> 00:37:19,025
Is there some trauma
inflicted upon them as a child?
738
00:37:19,208 --> 00:37:21,958
How could a scientist be drawn
739
00:37:22,125 --> 00:37:25,500
to this type of experimentation?
740
00:37:25,667 --> 00:37:29,625
I think this is
one of life's great mysteries.
741
00:37:35,488 --> 00:37:39,332
SHATNER: Sitting
on a lonely hilltop
742
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,500
is an imposing stone fortress
743
00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:44,125
that dates back
to the year 1252.
744
00:37:44,292 --> 00:37:47,458
Known as Castle Frankenstein,
745
00:37:47,625 --> 00:37:50,708
after the family who first
laid claim to this land,
746
00:37:50,875 --> 00:37:53,500
legend says it is the location
that inspired
747
00:37:53,708 --> 00:37:57,417
Mary Shelley's world-famous
gothic horror novel.
748
00:37:57,625 --> 00:38:00,167
But surprisingly,
Shelley's Frankenstein
749
00:38:00,292 --> 00:38:03,667
is not about the original
13th-century family.
750
00:38:03,833 --> 00:38:05,417
(thunder crashes)
751
00:38:05,583 --> 00:38:09,167
It is said inspiration
for her mad doctor
752
00:38:09,375 --> 00:38:12,333
would come from tales
of grotesque experiments
753
00:38:12,542 --> 00:38:15,167
conducted at the castle
centuries later
754
00:38:15,333 --> 00:38:17,833
by an eccentric scientist named
755
00:38:18,042 --> 00:38:19,750
Johann Dippel.
756
00:38:20,708 --> 00:38:23,583
GENTILE:
In 1673, in Castle Frankenstein,
757
00:38:23,792 --> 00:38:26,917
was born the perfect man
for that name.
758
00:38:27,083 --> 00:38:29,167
That was Johann Konrad Dippel.
759
00:38:29,333 --> 00:38:32,167
He was technically a theologian.
760
00:38:32,333 --> 00:38:34,667
He went to college to study God.
761
00:38:34,833 --> 00:38:37,875
Dippel was a man
fascinated with death,
762
00:38:37,876 --> 00:38:40,166
with other people's death,
with his own death,
763
00:38:40,167 --> 00:38:43,875
and wanted to prolong his own
as long as he could.
764
00:38:44,542 --> 00:38:49,208
He believed that the soul
was a physical liquid
765
00:38:49,375 --> 00:38:50,917
inside the human body.
766
00:38:52,333 --> 00:38:56,000
And he procured cadavers,
legally and illegally,
767
00:38:56,167 --> 00:39:01,333
to perform experiments
on bodies in all kinds of ways.
768
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,500
What it entailed was
sticking a tube-
769
00:39:04,501 --> 00:39:06,416
usually made of
animal intestine-
770
00:39:06,417 --> 00:39:07,708
into a cadaver,
771
00:39:07,875 --> 00:39:10,167
extracting the fluids
from the cadaver
772
00:39:10,292 --> 00:39:13,500
and then transfer it
into another cadaver.
773
00:39:13,708 --> 00:39:17,250
The goal being
to reanimate that cadaver
774
00:39:17,417 --> 00:39:19,333
with this other one's soul.
775
00:39:19,542 --> 00:39:21,708
MORUS:
It makes sense that,
776
00:39:21,875 --> 00:39:26,750
if the soul has a specific,
physical location in the body,
777
00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:30,667
then you can kind of
extract it, and-
778
00:39:30,875 --> 00:39:34,208
and put it-
put it in another body.
779
00:39:34,375 --> 00:39:36,485
So about half a century
or so previously,
780
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:39,000
the French philosopher
Ren� Descartes
781
00:39:39,208 --> 00:39:43,375
had developed a view of humans
782
00:39:43,542 --> 00:39:47,458
that the soul has a physical
location inside the body.
783
00:39:47,625 --> 00:39:50,833
In case you're interested,
your soul is there.
784
00:39:51,833 --> 00:39:53,523
That's where
the pineal gland is.
785
00:39:53,625 --> 00:39:56,792
And the pineal gland,
according to Descartes,
786
00:39:56,958 --> 00:39:58,750
is where the soul lives.
787
00:39:58,875 --> 00:40:00,000
But nevertheless,
788
00:40:00,208 --> 00:40:02,750
even by the standards of
the early 18th century,
789
00:40:02,875 --> 00:40:05,667
if Dippel did indeed carry out
790
00:40:05,833 --> 00:40:07,958
these experiments on the dead,
791
00:40:08,125 --> 00:40:11,125
trying to transfer the soul
792
00:40:11,333 --> 00:40:13,833
from one body to another...
793
00:40:14,042 --> 00:40:17,417
This sounds,
from our point of view, mad.
794
00:40:17,583 --> 00:40:19,833
BOESE:
Like the famous fiction,
795
00:40:20,042 --> 00:40:22,458
these stories of
horrendous experiments...
796
00:40:22,583 --> 00:40:25,583
they serve as cautionary tales
797
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:28,292
about the pursuit of knowledge.
798
00:40:28,458 --> 00:40:30,750
You really have to ask:
799
00:40:30,917 --> 00:40:33,333
is the way science
is being pursued,
800
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:36,042
is it being done with wisdom
801
00:40:36,208 --> 00:40:40,958
or do we risk creating
Frankenstein's monster?
802
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,333
The mad scientist, for me,
leaves me conflicted.
803
00:40:45,542 --> 00:40:47,542
We need to push science forward.
804
00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:50,625
We also have to maintain
our ethics and our dignity.
805
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,542
But there are experiments
that may require us
806
00:40:54,667 --> 00:40:56,250
to forego our ethics,
807
00:40:56,417 --> 00:40:58,208
even if just for a moment,
808
00:40:58,375 --> 00:40:59,917
for the greater good.
809
00:41:00,125 --> 00:41:03,333
And I think that's why
the "mad scientist" archetype
810
00:41:03,458 --> 00:41:05,000
will continue to persist.
811
00:41:05,001 --> 00:41:07,457
As long as we pursue
the boundaries of science,
812
00:41:07,458 --> 00:41:11,583
we'll always be questioning
our own boundaries as humans.
813
00:41:13,042 --> 00:41:16,750
Were Johann Dippel's attempts
to resurrect the dead
814
00:41:16,917 --> 00:41:20,167
driven by ambition, curiosity...
815
00:41:20,333 --> 00:41:22,667
or plain old madness?
816
00:41:22,833 --> 00:41:24,667
Maybe it was all of the above.
817
00:41:24,875 --> 00:41:28,167
And it stands to reason
that a unique combination
818
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,667
of genius and insanity
819
00:41:30,875 --> 00:41:34,500
may also apply to other great
thinkers throughout history.
820
00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:38,375
But no matter
how potentially groundbreaking
821
00:41:38,542 --> 00:41:41,833
their outrageous experiments
might be...
822
00:41:41,834 --> 00:41:43,707
they serve
as a chilling reminder
823
00:41:43,708 --> 00:41:46,458
that the price of progress
824
00:41:46,625 --> 00:41:48,208
is often paid in blood.
825
00:41:48,333 --> 00:41:52,875
Whether it's ego or a warped
notion of right and wrong,
826
00:41:53,042 --> 00:41:58,167
what ultimately motivates
these mad scientists remains...
827
00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:00,917
...unexplained.
828
00:42:00,918 --> 00:42:02,799
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