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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,310 --> 00:00:07,519 the most famous human being in all of 2 00:00:07,519 --> 00:00:07,529 the most famous human being in all of 3 00:00:07,529 --> 00:00:09,799 the most famous human being in all of history was a first century Jewish 4 00:00:09,799 --> 00:00:09,809 history was a first century Jewish 5 00:00:09,809 --> 00:00:16,420 history was a first century Jewish revolutionary his name was Jesus 6 00:00:16,420 --> 00:00:16,430 7 00:00:16,430 --> 00:00:18,930 Christians believe Jesus was crucified 8 00:00:18,930 --> 00:00:18,940 Christians believe Jesus was crucified 9 00:00:18,940 --> 00:00:22,510 Christians believe Jesus was crucified died and on the third day rose from the 10 00:00:22,510 --> 00:00:22,520 died and on the third day rose from the 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,410 died and on the third day rose from the dead and ascended into heaven 12 00:00:25,410 --> 00:00:25,420 dead and ascended into heaven 13 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:27,599 dead and ascended into heaven but for two thousand years there have 14 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:27,609 but for two thousand years there have 15 00:00:27,609 --> 00:00:29,700 but for two thousand years there have been those who've challenged the truth 16 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:29,710 been those who've challenged the truth 17 00:00:29,710 --> 00:00:33,180 been those who've challenged the truth of this biblical story and some have 18 00:00:33,180 --> 00:00:33,190 of this biblical story and some have 19 00:00:33,190 --> 00:00:38,310 of this biblical story and some have died for expressing those doubts from 20 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:38,320 died for expressing those doubts from 21 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,240 died for expressing those doubts from Jerusalem to the villages of southern 22 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:42,250 Jerusalem to the villages of southern 23 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:45,450 Jerusalem to the villages of southern France from the wildness of distant 24 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:45,460 France from the wildness of distant 25 00:00:45,460 --> 00:00:50,819 France from the wildness of distant Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we 26 00:00:50,819 --> 00:00:50,829 Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we 27 00:00:50,829 --> 00:00:53,130 Kashmir to the exotic Philippines we shall try to solve this 2,000 year old 28 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:53,140 shall try to solve this 2,000 year old 29 00:00:53,140 --> 00:00:56,130 shall try to solve this 2,000 year old mystery we'll take a journey that asks 30 00:00:56,130 --> 00:00:56,140 mystery we'll take a journey that asks 31 00:00:56,140 --> 00:01:12,749 mystery we'll take a journey that asks did Jesus really died on the cross 32 00:01:12,749 --> 00:01:12,759 33 00:01:12,759 --> 00:01:15,760 the story of Christianity features not 34 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:15,770 the story of Christianity features not 35 00:01:15,770 --> 00:01:18,520 the story of Christianity features not only the most famous name in history but 36 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:18,530 only the most famous name in history but 37 00:01:18,530 --> 00:01:21,069 only the most famous name in history but also the most famous event in history 38 00:01:21,069 --> 00:01:21,079 also the most famous event in history 39 00:01:21,079 --> 00:01:25,120 also the most famous event in history the crucifixion for some or even many 40 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:25,130 the crucifixion for some or even many 41 00:01:25,130 --> 00:01:27,459 the crucifixion for some or even many true believers the fact that Jesus was 42 00:01:27,459 --> 00:01:27,469 true believers the fact that Jesus was 43 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:30,039 true believers the fact that Jesus was crucified died rose again and ascended 44 00:01:30,039 --> 00:01:30,049 crucified died rose again and ascended 45 00:01:30,049 --> 00:01:33,550 crucified died rose again and ascended into heaven can be literal truth but 46 00:01:33,550 --> 00:01:33,560 into heaven can be literal truth but 47 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,199 into heaven can be literal truth but throughout history there have always 48 00:01:35,199 --> 00:01:35,209 throughout history there have always 49 00:01:35,209 --> 00:01:37,359 throughout history there have always been those sometimes Christians who've 50 00:01:37,359 --> 00:01:37,369 been those sometimes Christians who've 51 00:01:37,369 --> 00:01:41,229 been those sometimes Christians who've asked awkward questions would a man die 52 00:01:41,229 --> 00:01:41,239 asked awkward questions would a man die 53 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:45,130 asked awkward questions would a man die after only six hours on the cross was he 54 00:01:45,130 --> 00:01:45,140 after only six hours on the cross was he 55 00:01:45,140 --> 00:01:47,229 after only six hours on the cross was he drugged what really happened in the 56 00:01:47,229 --> 00:01:47,239 drugged what really happened in the 57 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:49,719 drugged what really happened in the Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend 58 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:49,729 Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend 59 00:01:49,729 --> 00:01:55,149 Sepulcher and if Jesus didn't descend into heaven then where did he go 60 00:01:55,149 --> 00:01:55,159 61 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:57,700 for many Christians these questions risk 62 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:57,710 for many Christians these questions risk 63 00:01:57,710 --> 00:01:59,380 for many Christians these questions risk undermining the whole basis of 64 00:01:59,380 --> 00:01:59,390 undermining the whole basis of 65 00:01:59,390 --> 00:02:01,179 undermining the whole basis of Christianity and are extremely 66 00:02:01,179 --> 00:02:01,189 Christianity and are extremely 67 00:02:01,189 --> 00:02:05,230 Christianity and are extremely controversial the most crucial part of 68 00:02:05,230 --> 00:02:05,240 controversial the most crucial part of 69 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,060 controversial the most crucial part of the story which all Christians are 70 00:02:07,060 --> 00:02:07,070 the story which all Christians are 71 00:02:07,070 --> 00:02:09,669 the story which all Christians are expected to believe is the idea that 72 00:02:09,669 --> 00:02:09,679 expected to believe is the idea that 73 00:02:09,679 --> 00:02:11,670 expected to believe is the idea that Jesus rose from the dead 74 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:11,680 Jesus rose from the dead 75 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:16,610 Jesus rose from the dead the resurrection 76 00:02:16,610 --> 00:02:16,620 77 00:02:16,620 --> 00:02:21,090 the resurrection is actually the primary 78 00:02:21,090 --> 00:02:21,100 the resurrection is actually the primary 79 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:22,320 the resurrection is actually the primary story at the heart of Christianity 80 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:22,330 story at the heart of Christianity 81 00:02:22,330 --> 00:02:23,700 story at the heart of Christianity without which you wouldn't have a 82 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:23,710 without which you wouldn't have a 83 00:02:23,710 --> 00:02:25,710 without which you wouldn't have a movement you could have Christianity 84 00:02:25,710 --> 00:02:25,720 movement you could have Christianity 85 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,140 movement you could have Christianity without the virgin birth however none of 86 00:02:28,140 --> 00:02:28,150 without the virgin birth however none of 87 00:02:28,150 --> 00:02:30,090 without the virgin birth however none of them tells it without a resurrection 88 00:02:30,090 --> 00:02:30,100 them tells it without a resurrection 89 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:34,200 them tells it without a resurrection story despite the best efforts of the 90 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:34,210 story despite the best efforts of the 91 00:02:34,210 --> 00:02:36,780 story despite the best efforts of the church the resurrection of Jesus and his 92 00:02:36,780 --> 00:02:36,790 church the resurrection of Jesus and his 93 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:38,940 church the resurrection of Jesus and his later ascension into heaven have for 94 00:02:38,940 --> 00:02:38,950 later ascension into heaven have for 95 00:02:38,950 --> 00:02:41,100 later ascension into heaven have for 2,000 years been fertile ground for 96 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:41,110 2,000 years been fertile ground for 97 00:02:41,110 --> 00:02:44,100 2,000 years been fertile ground for heresy some people suggest that Jesus 98 00:02:44,100 --> 00:02:44,110 heresy some people suggest that Jesus 99 00:02:44,110 --> 00:02:45,720 heresy some people suggest that Jesus was rescued from the crucifixion and 100 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:45,730 was rescued from the crucifixion and 101 00:02:45,730 --> 00:02:47,699 was rescued from the crucifixion and escaped to live a secret life in 102 00:02:47,699 --> 00:02:47,709 escaped to live a secret life in 103 00:02:47,709 --> 00:02:51,690 escaped to live a secret life in southern France some have been convinced 104 00:02:51,690 --> 00:02:51,700 southern France some have been convinced 105 00:02:51,700 --> 00:02:53,970 southern France some have been convinced that Jesus survived and travelled to the 106 00:02:53,970 --> 00:02:53,980 that Jesus survived and travelled to the 107 00:02:53,980 --> 00:02:55,920 that Jesus survived and travelled to the mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he 108 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:55,930 mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he 109 00:02:55,930 --> 00:02:59,490 mountain kingdoms of Kashmir where he lived to the age of 80 with the help of 110 00:02:59,490 --> 00:02:59,500 lived to the age of 80 with the help of 111 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:01,979 lived to the age of 80 with the help of leading historians and theologians we 112 00:03:01,979 --> 00:03:01,989 leading historians and theologians we 113 00:03:01,989 --> 00:03:03,780 leading historians and theologians we will examine these most controversial 114 00:03:03,780 --> 00:03:03,790 will examine these most controversial 115 00:03:03,790 --> 00:03:12,240 will examine these most controversial theories to understand what happened to 116 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:12,250 theories to understand what happened to 117 00:03:12,250 --> 00:03:14,610 theories to understand what happened to Jesus after the crucifixion we need 118 00:03:14,610 --> 00:03:14,620 Jesus after the crucifixion we need 119 00:03:14,620 --> 00:03:16,790 Jesus after the crucifixion we need first to look at the facts of his life 120 00:03:16,790 --> 00:03:16,800 first to look at the facts of his life 121 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,030 first to look at the facts of his life but what is historical fact what is the 122 00:03:21,030 --> 00:03:21,040 but what is historical fact what is the 123 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,720 but what is historical fact what is the evidence 124 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:23,730 125 00:03:23,730 --> 00:03:26,150 almost all we currently think we know 126 00:03:26,150 --> 00:03:26,160 almost all we currently think we know 127 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,640 almost all we currently think we know about Jesus comes from the four Gospels 128 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:28,650 about Jesus comes from the four Gospels 129 00:03:28,650 --> 00:03:32,880 about Jesus comes from the four Gospels Matthew Mark Luke and John 130 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:32,890 131 00:03:32,890 --> 00:03:35,280 but Matthew and John are the only gospel 132 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:35,290 but Matthew and John are the only gospel 133 00:03:35,290 --> 00:03:37,170 but Matthew and John are the only gospel writers who were members of the 12 134 00:03:37,170 --> 00:03:37,180 writers who were members of the 12 135 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:39,510 writers who were members of the 12 disciples the only ones who could have 136 00:03:39,510 --> 00:03:39,520 disciples the only ones who could have 137 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,160 disciples the only ones who could have been present at the events they 138 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,170 been present at the events they 139 00:03:41,170 --> 00:03:43,150 been present at the events they described 140 00:03:43,150 --> 00:03:43,160 described 141 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,460 described the four Gospels were all apparently 142 00:03:45,460 --> 00:03:45,470 the four Gospels were all apparently 143 00:03:45,470 --> 00:03:47,650 the four Gospels were all apparently written between forty and hundred years 144 00:03:47,650 --> 00:03:47,660 written between forty and hundred years 145 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:49,810 written between forty and hundred years after the crucifixion which Roman 146 00:03:49,810 --> 00:03:49,820 after the crucifixion which Roman 147 00:03:49,820 --> 00:03:53,670 after the crucifixion which Roman history tells us happened around 30 AD 148 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:53,680 history tells us happened around 30 AD 149 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,290 history tells us happened around 30 AD but despite the fact that we know them 150 00:03:56,290 --> 00:03:56,300 but despite the fact that we know them 151 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:58,630 but despite the fact that we know them by those four names modern biblical 152 00:03:58,630 --> 00:03:58,640 by those four names modern biblical 153 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,820 by those four names modern biblical scholars cannot be absolutely sure who 154 00:04:00,820 --> 00:04:00,830 scholars cannot be absolutely sure who 155 00:04:00,830 --> 00:04:03,940 scholars cannot be absolutely sure who really wrote them originally all these 156 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:03,950 really wrote them originally all these 157 00:04:03,950 --> 00:04:06,850 really wrote them originally all these Gospels circulated anonymously there 158 00:04:06,850 --> 00:04:06,860 Gospels circulated anonymously there 159 00:04:06,860 --> 00:04:08,850 Gospels circulated anonymously there were no names attached to them until 160 00:04:08,850 --> 00:04:08,860 were no names attached to them until 161 00:04:08,860 --> 00:04:13,810 were no names attached to them until almost 200 and the Christian theologian 162 00:04:13,810 --> 00:04:13,820 almost 200 and the Christian theologian 163 00:04:13,820 --> 00:04:15,460 almost 200 and the Christian theologian who came up with the idea of having a 164 00:04:15,460 --> 00:04:15,470 who came up with the idea of having a 165 00:04:15,470 --> 00:04:17,770 who came up with the idea of having a new Testament was roundly condemned as a 166 00:04:17,770 --> 00:04:17,780 new Testament was roundly condemned as a 167 00:04:17,780 --> 00:04:21,180 new Testament was roundly condemned as a heretic 168 00:04:21,180 --> 00:04:21,190 169 00:04:21,190 --> 00:04:23,800 whoever did really write the four 170 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:23,810 whoever did really write the four 171 00:04:23,810 --> 00:04:26,380 whoever did really write the four Gospels the description of Jesus death 172 00:04:26,380 --> 00:04:26,390 Gospels the description of Jesus death 173 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:36,249 Gospels the description of Jesus death in all of them is brutal 174 00:04:36,249 --> 00:04:36,259 175 00:04:36,259 --> 00:04:39,230 every year at Easter Christians in the 176 00:04:39,230 --> 00:04:39,240 every year at Easter Christians in the 177 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,749 every year at Easter Christians in the Philippines reenact the crucifixion of 178 00:04:41,749 --> 00:04:41,759 Philippines reenact the crucifixion of 179 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:44,990 Philippines reenact the crucifixion of Jesus they actually volunteer to be 180 00:04:44,990 --> 00:04:45,000 Jesus they actually volunteer to be 181 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,990 Jesus they actually volunteer to be crucified they do it because they 182 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:48,000 crucified they do it because they 183 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,790 crucified they do it because they believe it will help them to purge their 184 00:04:49,790 --> 00:04:49,800 believe it will help them to purge their 185 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:54,110 believe it will help them to purge their sins 186 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:54,120 187 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,230 for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder 188 00:04:57,230 --> 00:04:57,240 for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder 189 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,540 for the onlookers it's a bloody reminder of what happened to Jesus two thousand 190 00:04:59,540 --> 00:04:59,550 of what happened to Jesus two thousand 191 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:05,090 of what happened to Jesus two thousand years ago crucifixion was the most cruel 192 00:05:05,090 --> 00:05:05,100 years ago crucifixion was the most cruel 193 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:07,460 years ago crucifixion was the most cruel and atrocious punishment that the Romans 194 00:05:07,460 --> 00:05:07,470 and atrocious punishment that the Romans 195 00:05:07,470 --> 00:05:10,100 and atrocious punishment that the Romans could inflict and it was inflicted only 196 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:10,110 could inflict and it was inflicted only 197 00:05:10,110 --> 00:05:14,150 could inflict and it was inflicted only for treason and only on slaves if you 198 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:14,160 for treason and only on slaves if you 199 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,790 for treason and only on slaves if you were a nobleman and you were a traitor 200 00:05:16,790 --> 00:05:16,800 were a nobleman and you were a traitor 201 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,680 were a nobleman and you were a traitor then normally you were strangled 202 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:18,690 then normally you were strangled 203 00:05:18,690 --> 00:05:20,570 then normally you were strangled something much simpler and much easier 204 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:20,580 something much simpler and much easier 205 00:05:20,580 --> 00:05:28,580 something much simpler and much easier and much less painful 206 00:05:28,580 --> 00:05:28,590 207 00:05:28,590 --> 00:05:32,270 after condemnation the being the cross 208 00:05:32,270 --> 00:05:32,280 after condemnation the being the cross 209 00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:35,150 after condemnation the being the cross being was strapped to the shoulders of 210 00:05:35,150 --> 00:05:35,160 being was strapped to the shoulders of 211 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,030 being was strapped to the shoulders of criminal and he paraded through the 212 00:05:38,030 --> 00:05:38,040 criminal and he paraded through the 213 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:43,909 criminal and he paraded through the streets with his arms stretched out at 214 00:05:43,909 --> 00:05:43,919 streets with his arms stretched out at 215 00:05:43,919 --> 00:05:47,300 streets with his arms stretched out at the place of execution them nails were 216 00:05:47,300 --> 00:05:47,310 the place of execution them nails were 217 00:05:47,310 --> 00:05:50,870 the place of execution them nails were hammered into the hands and the feast in 218 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:50,880 hammered into the hands and the feast in 219 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,390 hammered into the hands and the feast in the Philippines they do use real nails 220 00:05:55,390 --> 00:05:55,400 the Philippines they do use real nails 221 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,790 the Philippines they do use real nails they do experience the real pain that 222 00:05:58,790 --> 00:05:58,800 they do experience the real pain that 223 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:11,960 they do experience the real pain that Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross 224 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:11,970 Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross 225 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:15,440 Jesus Valley but a man nailed to a cross does not die from his wounds he dies 226 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:15,450 does not die from his wounds he dies 227 00:06:15,450 --> 00:06:20,090 does not die from his wounds he dies surprisingly from suffocation hanging by 228 00:06:20,090 --> 00:06:20,100 surprisingly from suffocation hanging by 229 00:06:20,100 --> 00:06:23,150 surprisingly from suffocation hanging by your arms the chest is compressed it's 230 00:06:23,150 --> 00:06:23,160 your arms the chest is compressed it's 231 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,159 your arms the chest is compressed it's hard to breathe without supporting your 232 00:06:25,159 --> 00:06:25,169 hard to breathe without supporting your 233 00:06:25,169 --> 00:06:29,750 hard to breathe without supporting your weight with your legs over time the 234 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:29,760 weight with your legs over time the 235 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,270 weight with your legs over time the strain and the pain make that impossible 236 00:06:32,270 --> 00:06:32,280 strain and the pain make that impossible 237 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:35,390 strain and the pain make that impossible and you're unable to breathe in the 238 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:35,400 and you're unable to breathe in the 239 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,219 and you're unable to breathe in the Philippines the volunteers are brought 240 00:06:37,219 --> 00:06:37,229 Philippines the volunteers are brought 241 00:06:37,229 --> 00:06:39,140 Philippines the volunteers are brought down from their crosses within an hour 242 00:06:39,140 --> 00:06:39,150 down from their crosses within an hour 243 00:06:39,150 --> 00:06:42,080 down from their crosses within an hour death from crucifixion takes much longer 244 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:42,090 death from crucifixion takes much longer 245 00:06:42,090 --> 00:06:45,290 death from crucifixion takes much longer often several days the only way to 246 00:06:45,290 --> 00:06:45,300 often several days the only way to 247 00:06:45,300 --> 00:06:47,719 often several days the only way to hasten death on the cross was to break 248 00:06:47,719 --> 00:06:47,729 hasten death on the cross was to break 249 00:06:47,729 --> 00:06:49,760 hasten death on the cross was to break the legs making it immediately 250 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:49,770 the legs making it immediately 251 00:06:49,770 --> 00:06:51,620 the legs making it immediately impossible to support your weight and 252 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:51,630 impossible to support your weight and 253 00:06:51,630 --> 00:06:54,890 impossible to support your weight and therefore to breathe but the Gospels are 254 00:06:54,890 --> 00:06:54,900 therefore to breathe but the Gospels are 255 00:06:54,900 --> 00:06:57,230 therefore to breathe but the Gospels are all agreed that Jesus died after only 256 00:06:57,230 --> 00:06:57,240 all agreed that Jesus died after only 257 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,400 all agreed that Jesus died after only three to six hours the crucifixion began 258 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:01,410 three to six hours the crucifixion began 259 00:07:01,410 --> 00:07:03,500 three to six hours the crucifixion began at the third hour 260 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:03,510 at the third hour 261 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:06,140 at the third hour and it was the third hour and they 262 00:07:06,140 --> 00:07:06,150 and it was the third hour and they 263 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:07,600 and it was the third hour and they crucified him 264 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:07,610 crucified him 265 00:07:07,610 --> 00:07:09,700 crucified him some claim that the Gospel according to 266 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:09,710 some claim that the Gospel according to 267 00:07:09,710 --> 00:07:13,300 some claim that the Gospel according to Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was 268 00:07:13,300 --> 00:07:13,310 Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was 269 00:07:13,310 --> 00:07:15,610 Luke has the shortest crucifixion it was about the sixth hour and when Jesus had 270 00:07:15,610 --> 00:07:15,620 about the sixth hour and when Jesus had 271 00:07:15,620 --> 00:07:17,800 about the sixth hour and when Jesus had cried with a loud voice he gave up the 272 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:17,810 cried with a loud voice he gave up the 273 00:07:17,810 --> 00:07:21,670 cried with a loud voice he gave up the ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus 274 00:07:21,670 --> 00:07:21,680 ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus 275 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:24,580 ghost Matthew and Mark have Jesus surviving a little longer and about the 276 00:07:24,580 --> 00:07:24,590 surviving a little longer and about the 277 00:07:24,590 --> 00:07:27,770 surviving a little longer and about the ninth hour Jesus cried out 278 00:07:27,770 --> 00:07:27,780 ninth hour Jesus cried out 279 00:07:27,780 --> 00:07:30,380 ninth hour Jesus cried out the disciples wanted to take Jesus body 280 00:07:30,380 --> 00:07:30,390 the disciples wanted to take Jesus body 281 00:07:30,390 --> 00:07:33,020 the disciples wanted to take Jesus body down from the cross immediately but the 282 00:07:33,020 --> 00:07:33,030 down from the cross immediately but the 283 00:07:33,030 --> 00:07:35,150 down from the cross immediately but the Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't 284 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:35,160 Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't 285 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,090 Roman governor Pontius Pilate wasn't convinced that he was dead and Pilate 286 00:07:38,090 --> 00:07:38,100 convinced that he was dead and Pilate 287 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:42,080 convinced that he was dead and Pilate marvelled if he were already dead Pilate 288 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:42,090 marvelled if he were already dead Pilate 289 00:07:42,090 --> 00:07:45,050 marvelled if he were already dead Pilate was reassured by the Centurion but this 290 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:45,060 was reassured by the Centurion but this 291 00:07:45,060 --> 00:07:47,420 was reassured by the Centurion but this was the same Centurion who had earlier 292 00:07:47,420 --> 00:07:47,430 was the same Centurion who had earlier 293 00:07:47,430 --> 00:07:52,219 was the same Centurion who had earlier said truly this man was the son of God 294 00:07:52,219 --> 00:07:52,229 said truly this man was the son of God 295 00:07:52,229 --> 00:07:54,670 said truly this man was the son of God Jesus body was then laid in a tomb 296 00:07:54,670 --> 00:07:54,680 Jesus body was then laid in a tomb 297 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,200 Jesus body was then laid in a tomb donated by a rich man joseph of 298 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,210 donated by a rich man joseph of 299 00:07:57,210 --> 00:08:00,350 donated by a rich man joseph of arimathea this Joseph and a man called 300 00:08:00,350 --> 00:08:00,360 arimathea this Joseph and a man called 301 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,189 arimathea this Joseph and a man called Nicodemus came to minister to the body 302 00:08:03,189 --> 00:08:03,199 Nicodemus came to minister to the body 303 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:06,409 Nicodemus came to minister to the body they came to Jesus by night and brought 304 00:08:06,409 --> 00:08:06,419 they came to Jesus by night and brought 305 00:08:06,419 --> 00:08:09,050 they came to Jesus by night and brought a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an 306 00:08:09,050 --> 00:08:09,060 a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an 307 00:08:09,060 --> 00:08:12,870 a mixture of myrrh and aloes about an hundred pounds weight 308 00:08:12,870 --> 00:08:12,880 309 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,880 these accounts when viewed as an 310 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:14,890 these accounts when viewed as an 311 00:08:14,890 --> 00:08:16,800 these accounts when viewed as an historical rather than a sacred record 312 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:16,810 historical rather than a sacred record 313 00:08:16,810 --> 00:08:20,310 historical rather than a sacred record may raise questions why did Jesus die so 314 00:08:20,310 --> 00:08:20,320 may raise questions why did Jesus die so 315 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:20,790 may raise questions why did Jesus die so quickly 316 00:08:20,790 --> 00:08:20,800 quickly 317 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,220 quickly why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so 318 00:08:23,220 --> 00:08:23,230 why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so 319 00:08:23,230 --> 00:08:26,850 why did Joseph and Nicodemus take so many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps 320 00:08:26,850 --> 00:08:26,860 many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps 321 00:08:26,860 --> 00:08:29,130 many herbs into the tomb so it's perhaps not surprising that some people have 322 00:08:29,130 --> 00:08:29,140 not surprising that some people have 323 00:08:29,140 --> 00:08:31,290 not surprising that some people have even dared to ask whether Pilate was 324 00:08:31,290 --> 00:08:31,300 even dared to ask whether Pilate was 325 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:33,839 even dared to ask whether Pilate was right to have his doubts whether Jesus 326 00:08:33,839 --> 00:08:33,849 right to have his doubts whether Jesus 327 00:08:33,849 --> 00:08:43,820 right to have his doubts whether Jesus really did die on the cross 328 00:08:43,820 --> 00:08:43,830 329 00:08:43,830 --> 00:08:46,650 that Jesus might not have died on the 330 00:08:46,650 --> 00:08:46,660 that Jesus might not have died on the 331 00:08:46,660 --> 00:08:49,290 that Jesus might not have died on the cross is an explosive idea particularly 332 00:08:49,290 --> 00:08:49,300 cross is an explosive idea particularly 333 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,470 cross is an explosive idea particularly for Christians in our journey to 334 00:08:52,470 --> 00:08:52,480 for Christians in our journey to 335 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,390 for Christians in our journey to understand the truth about Jesus life 336 00:08:54,390 --> 00:08:54,400 understand the truth about Jesus life 337 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,000 understand the truth about Jesus life and death we need to look further at the 338 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:57,010 and death we need to look further at the 339 00:08:57,010 --> 00:09:02,700 and death we need to look further at the biblical accounts of the resurrection it 340 00:09:02,700 --> 00:09:02,710 biblical accounts of the resurrection it 341 00:09:02,710 --> 00:09:05,160 biblical accounts of the resurrection it was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was 342 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:05,170 was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was 343 00:09:05,170 --> 00:09:07,050 was here in Jerusalem that Jesus was crucified and according to the 344 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:07,060 crucified and according to the 345 00:09:07,060 --> 00:09:10,590 crucified and according to the scriptures rose again from the dead 346 00:09:10,590 --> 00:09:10,600 scriptures rose again from the dead 347 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,900 scriptures rose again from the dead but in Jerusalem one is forced to 348 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:12,910 but in Jerusalem one is forced to 349 00:09:12,910 --> 00:09:15,000 but in Jerusalem one is forced to remember that we do not live on a 350 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:15,010 remember that we do not live on a 351 00:09:15,010 --> 00:09:20,520 remember that we do not live on a Christian planet hundreds of millions of 352 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:20,530 Christian planet hundreds of millions of 353 00:09:20,530 --> 00:09:23,460 Christian planet hundreds of millions of Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus 354 00:09:23,460 --> 00:09:23,470 Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus 355 00:09:23,470 --> 00:09:25,680 Jews and Muslims may accept that Jesus lived and died in first century 356 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:25,690 lived and died in first century 357 00:09:25,690 --> 00:09:28,350 lived and died in first century Palestine but only Christians believed 358 00:09:28,350 --> 00:09:28,360 Palestine but only Christians believed 359 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:36,060 Palestine but only Christians believed he rose from the dead this is the Church 360 00:09:36,060 --> 00:09:36,070 he rose from the dead this is the Church 361 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:38,790 he rose from the dead this is the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built 362 00:09:38,790 --> 00:09:38,800 of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built 363 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,130 of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem built upon what was supposed to be the tomb in 364 00:09:41,130 --> 00:09:41,140 upon what was supposed to be the tomb in 365 00:09:41,140 --> 00:09:43,020 upon what was supposed to be the tomb in which Jesus was laid after the 366 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:43,030 which Jesus was laid after the 367 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:50,100 which Jesus was laid after the crucifixion this according to devout 368 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:50,110 crucifixion this according to devout 369 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:53,370 crucifixion this according to devout Christians is the exact site of the 370 00:09:53,370 --> 00:09:53,380 Christians is the exact site of the 371 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:55,770 Christians is the exact site of the resurrection and if anything can be 372 00:09:55,770 --> 00:09:55,780 resurrection and if anything can be 373 00:09:55,780 --> 00:09:57,660 resurrection and if anything can be described as the cornerstone of the 374 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:57,670 described as the cornerstone of the 375 00:09:57,670 --> 00:10:03,710 described as the cornerstone of the Christian faith it is the resurrection 376 00:10:03,710 --> 00:10:03,720 377 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,810 the resurrection of Jesus as far as all 378 00:10:06,810 --> 00:10:06,820 the resurrection of Jesus as far as all 379 00:10:06,820 --> 00:10:08,960 the resurrection of Jesus as far as all the Christian churches are concerned is 380 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:08,970 the Christian churches are concerned is 381 00:10:08,970 --> 00:10:11,570 the Christian churches are concerned is absolutely fundamental to the faith 382 00:10:11,570 --> 00:10:11,580 absolutely fundamental to the faith 383 00:10:11,580 --> 00:10:15,330 absolutely fundamental to the faith there's no question in my mind that it's 384 00:10:15,330 --> 00:10:15,340 there's no question in my mind that it's 385 00:10:15,340 --> 00:10:18,870 there's no question in my mind that it's ever going to be changed the 386 00:10:18,870 --> 00:10:18,880 ever going to be changed the 387 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:20,850 ever going to be changed the resurrection may be fundamental to the 388 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:20,860 resurrection may be fundamental to the 389 00:10:20,860 --> 00:10:23,100 resurrection may be fundamental to the faith but in our examination of what 390 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:23,110 faith but in our examination of what 391 00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:25,590 faith but in our examination of what really happened it's hard to find solid 392 00:10:25,590 --> 00:10:25,600 really happened it's hard to find solid 393 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:29,850 really happened it's hard to find solid historical evidence 394 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:29,860 395 00:10:29,860 --> 00:10:33,010 the four Gospels all tell different 396 00:10:33,010 --> 00:10:33,020 the four Gospels all tell different 397 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:36,730 the four Gospels all tell different stories when we read the resurrection 398 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:36,740 stories when we read the resurrection 399 00:10:36,740 --> 00:10:39,490 stories when we read the resurrection narratives it's like reading four 400 00:10:39,490 --> 00:10:39,500 narratives it's like reading four 401 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,590 narratives it's like reading four different reports of the same football 402 00:10:41,590 --> 00:10:41,600 different reports of the same football 403 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,930 different reports of the same football game in four rather different newspapers 404 00:10:43,930 --> 00:10:43,940 game in four rather different newspapers 405 00:10:43,940 --> 00:10:46,840 game in four rather different newspapers and the fact that actually there may be 406 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:46,850 and the fact that actually there may be 407 00:10:46,850 --> 00:10:48,820 and the fact that actually there may be some disagreement about whether it was a 408 00:10:48,820 --> 00:10:48,830 some disagreement about whether it was a 409 00:10:48,830 --> 00:10:50,650 some disagreement about whether it was a foul or not doesn't mean that there 410 00:10:50,650 --> 00:10:50,660 foul or not doesn't mean that there 411 00:10:50,660 --> 00:10:52,090 foul or not doesn't mean that there wasn't a game and that somebody didn't 412 00:10:52,090 --> 00:10:52,100 wasn't a game and that somebody didn't 413 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:54,100 wasn't a game and that somebody didn't win it and so on if one of them says 414 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:54,110 win it and so on if one of them says 415 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:55,360 win it and so on if one of them says there were two angels and another one 416 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:55,370 there were two angels and another one 417 00:10:55,370 --> 00:10:56,680 there were two angels and another one says there was one angel if one of them 418 00:10:56,680 --> 00:10:56,690 says there was one angel if one of them 419 00:10:56,690 --> 00:10:58,510 says there was one angel if one of them says Mary Magdalene was there all by 420 00:10:58,510 --> 00:10:58,520 says Mary Magdalene was there all by 421 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,860 says Mary Magdalene was there all by herself and somebody else says Mary 422 00:10:59,860 --> 00:10:59,870 herself and somebody else says Mary 423 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:01,180 herself and somebody else says Mary Magdalene was there with one or two 424 00:11:01,180 --> 00:11:01,190 Magdalene was there with one or two 425 00:11:01,190 --> 00:11:04,120 Magdalene was there with one or two other women then these are the sorts of 426 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:04,130 other women then these are the sorts of 427 00:11:04,130 --> 00:11:06,160 other women then these are the sorts of variations that you expect to get like 428 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:06,170 variations that you expect to get like 429 00:11:06,170 --> 00:11:07,540 variations that you expect to get like the different newspaper reports the 430 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:07,550 the different newspaper reports the 431 00:11:07,550 --> 00:11:10,000 the different newspaper reports the football match and then not something 432 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:10,010 football match and then not something 433 00:11:10,010 --> 00:11:11,680 football match and then not something that should worry you to the point of 434 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:11,690 that should worry you to the point of 435 00:11:11,690 --> 00:11:13,360 that should worry you to the point of saying therefore nothing happened that 436 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:13,370 saying therefore nothing happened that 437 00:11:13,370 --> 00:11:17,680 saying therefore nothing happened that would be quite a false conclusion but in 438 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:17,690 would be quite a false conclusion but in 439 00:11:17,690 --> 00:11:19,630 would be quite a false conclusion but in the earliest versions of the earliest 440 00:11:19,630 --> 00:11:19,640 the earliest versions of the earliest 441 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,360 the earliest versions of the earliest gospel mark there are no resurrection 442 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:22,370 gospel mark there are no resurrection 443 00:11:22,370 --> 00:11:25,220 gospel mark there are no resurrection appearances at all 444 00:11:25,220 --> 00:11:25,230 appearances at all 445 00:11:25,230 --> 00:11:27,500 appearances at all the gospel simply ends with the 446 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:27,510 the gospel simply ends with the 447 00:11:27,510 --> 00:11:30,470 the gospel simply ends with the discovery of an empty tomb the last 448 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:30,480 discovery of an empty tomb the last 449 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,690 discovery of an empty tomb the last verses of Mark which do contain 450 00:11:32,690 --> 00:11:32,700 verses of Mark which do contain 451 00:11:32,700 --> 00:11:35,870 verses of Mark which do contain resurrection stories were added 200 452 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:35,880 resurrection stories were added 200 453 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:42,020 resurrection stories were added 200 years later none of the gospel stories 454 00:11:42,020 --> 00:11:42,030 years later none of the gospel stories 455 00:11:42,030 --> 00:11:49,280 years later none of the gospel stories is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the 456 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:49,290 is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the 457 00:11:49,290 --> 00:11:50,600 is CNN in Jerusalem in the year 30 the Gospels are written in the form of 458 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:50,610 Gospels are written in the form of 459 00:11:50,610 --> 00:11:52,340 Gospels are written in the form of historical biographies so many people 460 00:11:52,340 --> 00:11:52,350 historical biographies so many people 461 00:11:52,350 --> 00:11:54,830 historical biographies so many people have assumed that they are exactly that 462 00:11:54,830 --> 00:11:54,840 have assumed that they are exactly that 463 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:58,250 have assumed that they are exactly that but there that's not actually what they 464 00:11:58,250 --> 00:11:58,260 but there that's not actually what they 465 00:11:58,260 --> 00:12:00,020 but there that's not actually what they are they're written to demonstrate to 466 00:12:00,020 --> 00:12:00,030 are they're written to demonstrate to 467 00:12:00,030 --> 00:12:02,480 are they're written to demonstrate to people the importance and the meaning of 468 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:02,490 people the importance and the meaning of 469 00:12:02,490 --> 00:12:04,490 people the importance and the meaning of Jesus and his teaching that was what 470 00:12:04,490 --> 00:12:04,500 Jesus and his teaching that was what 471 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:05,840 Jesus and his teaching that was what they're for and they do that very well 472 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:05,850 they're for and they do that very well 473 00:12:05,850 --> 00:12:08,240 they're for and they do that very well but they're not primarily interested in 474 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:08,250 but they're not primarily interested in 475 00:12:08,250 --> 00:12:10,420 but they're not primarily interested in what actually happened back there 476 00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:10,430 what actually happened back there 477 00:12:10,430 --> 00:12:13,070 what actually happened back there Matthew and Luke do have resurrection 478 00:12:13,070 --> 00:12:13,080 Matthew and Luke do have resurrection 479 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:14,930 Matthew and Luke do have resurrection appearances but they don't agree about 480 00:12:14,930 --> 00:12:14,940 appearances but they don't agree about 481 00:12:14,940 --> 00:12:18,110 appearances but they don't agree about the details in Matthew Jesus meets the 482 00:12:18,110 --> 00:12:18,120 the details in Matthew Jesus meets the 483 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,300 the details in Matthew Jesus meets the women near the tomb and then meets his 484 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:20,310 women near the tomb and then meets his 485 00:12:20,310 --> 00:12:22,430 women near the tomb and then meets his disciples just one time and that is on a 486 00:12:22,430 --> 00:12:22,440 disciples just one time and that is on a 487 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,730 disciples just one time and that is on a mountain in Galilee 488 00:12:24,730 --> 00:12:24,740 mountain in Galilee 489 00:12:24,740 --> 00:12:27,370 mountain in Galilee in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed 490 00:12:27,370 --> 00:12:27,380 in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed 491 00:12:27,380 --> 00:12:29,079 in Luke Jesus meets two unnamed disciples who do not recognize him and 492 00:12:29,079 --> 00:12:29,089 disciples who do not recognize him and 493 00:12:29,089 --> 00:12:31,180 disciples who do not recognize him and then with the eleven remaining disciples 494 00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:31,190 then with the eleven remaining disciples 495 00:12:31,190 --> 00:12:32,740 then with the eleven remaining disciples before leaving them in a village outside 496 00:12:32,740 --> 00:12:32,750 before leaving them in a village outside 497 00:12:32,750 --> 00:12:36,850 before leaving them in a village outside Jerusalem the last gospel John has many 498 00:12:36,850 --> 00:12:36,860 Jerusalem the last gospel John has many 499 00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:40,240 Jerusalem the last gospel John has many different resurrection stories for many 500 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:40,250 different resurrection stories for many 501 00:12:40,250 --> 00:12:42,910 different resurrection stories for many modern scholars these variations suggest 502 00:12:42,910 --> 00:12:42,920 modern scholars these variations suggest 503 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,769 modern scholars these variations suggest that the stories were not written to 504 00:12:44,769 --> 00:12:44,779 that the stories were not written to 505 00:12:44,779 --> 00:12:46,990 that the stories were not written to tell of a miraculous event but with an 506 00:12:46,990 --> 00:12:47,000 tell of a miraculous event but with an 507 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,500 tell of a miraculous event but with an entirely different and political motive 508 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:49,510 entirely different and political motive 509 00:12:49,510 --> 00:12:52,300 entirely different and political motive for it was the supposed witnesses of the 510 00:12:52,300 --> 00:12:52,310 for it was the supposed witnesses of the 511 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:54,310 for it was the supposed witnesses of the Resurrection who became the leaders of 512 00:12:54,310 --> 00:12:54,320 Resurrection who became the leaders of 513 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,790 Resurrection who became the leaders of the early church even to this day the 514 00:12:57,790 --> 00:12:57,800 the early church even to this day the 515 00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,220 the early church even to this day the Pope claims his authority in a direct 516 00:13:00,220 --> 00:13:00,230 Pope claims his authority in a direct 517 00:13:00,230 --> 00:13:02,740 Pope claims his authority in a direct unbroken line of ordination from Peter 518 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:02,750 unbroken line of ordination from Peter 519 00:13:02,750 --> 00:13:05,500 unbroken line of ordination from Peter the first disciple said to have seen the 520 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:05,510 the first disciple said to have seen the 521 00:13:05,510 --> 00:13:08,519 the first disciple said to have seen the risen Christ 522 00:13:08,519 --> 00:13:08,529 523 00:13:08,529 --> 00:13:10,829 some scholars go so far as to suggest 524 00:13:10,829 --> 00:13:10,839 some scholars go so far as to suggest 525 00:13:10,839 --> 00:13:13,349 some scholars go so far as to suggest that the story of the resurrection was 526 00:13:13,349 --> 00:13:13,359 that the story of the resurrection was 527 00:13:13,359 --> 00:13:15,229 that the story of the resurrection was also created as an extraordinary 528 00:13:15,229 --> 00:13:15,239 also created as an extraordinary 529 00:13:15,239 --> 00:13:17,849 also created as an extraordinary psychological tool to bring in new 530 00:13:17,849 --> 00:13:17,859 psychological tool to bring in new 531 00:13:17,859 --> 00:13:20,270 psychological tool to bring in new converts 532 00:13:20,270 --> 00:13:20,280 converts 533 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,360 converts it hadn't been for the resurrection of 534 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:23,370 it hadn't been for the resurrection of 535 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:26,800 it hadn't been for the resurrection of Jesus and his rising from the dead 536 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:26,810 Jesus and his rising from the dead 537 00:13:26,810 --> 00:13:30,290 Jesus and his rising from the dead victorious from the dead we wouldn't be 538 00:13:30,290 --> 00:13:30,300 victorious from the dead we wouldn't be 539 00:13:30,300 --> 00:13:32,990 victorious from the dead we wouldn't be celebrating Christmas it's a bit like 540 00:13:32,990 --> 00:13:33,000 celebrating Christmas it's a bit like 541 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:34,940 celebrating Christmas it's a bit like when you go into the army the first 542 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:34,950 when you go into the army the first 543 00:13:34,950 --> 00:13:36,740 when you go into the army the first thing we want is to take over your body 544 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:36,750 thing we want is to take over your body 545 00:13:36,750 --> 00:13:38,780 thing we want is to take over your body so symbolically is still going to shave 546 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:38,790 so symbolically is still going to shave 547 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:41,120 so symbolically is still going to shave all your hair as long as you give in on 548 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:41,130 all your hair as long as you give in on 549 00:13:41,130 --> 00:13:43,520 all your hair as long as you give in on this we got you we got your body we just 550 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:43,530 this we got you we got your body we just 551 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:46,940 this we got you we got your body we just hope you are in one sense sometimes the 552 00:13:46,940 --> 00:13:46,950 hope you are in one sense sometimes the 553 00:13:46,950 --> 00:13:48,920 hope you are in one sense sometimes the churches some churches at least do the 554 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:48,930 churches some churches at least do the 555 00:13:48,930 --> 00:13:51,070 churches some churches at least do the same we're going to tell you something 556 00:13:51,070 --> 00:13:51,080 same we're going to tell you something 557 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,450 same we're going to tell you something unbelievable that you gotta believe when 558 00:13:53,450 --> 00:13:53,460 unbelievable that you gotta believe when 559 00:13:53,460 --> 00:13:54,770 unbelievable that you gotta believe when they you just relax 560 00:13:54,770 --> 00:13:54,780 they you just relax 561 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:56,630 they you just relax if you believe it then you will believe 562 00:13:56,630 --> 00:13:56,640 if you believe it then you will believe 563 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 if you believe it then you will believe that they alone control heaven that 564 00:13:59,120 --> 00:13:59,130 that they alone control heaven that 565 00:13:59,130 --> 00:14:00,740 that they alone control heaven that without them you cannot get into heaven 566 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:00,750 without them you cannot get into heaven 567 00:14:00,750 --> 00:14:03,320 without them you cannot get into heaven and then they've got you you've left 568 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:03,330 and then they've got you you've left 569 00:14:03,330 --> 00:14:06,950 and then they've got you you've left your brains in the parking lot that's a 570 00:14:06,950 --> 00:14:06,960 your brains in the parking lot that's a 571 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,050 your brains in the parking lot that's a statement that may be offensive to many 572 00:14:09,050 --> 00:14:09,060 statement that may be offensive to many 573 00:14:09,060 --> 00:14:11,930 statement that may be offensive to many Christians it would certainly be 574 00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:11,940 Christians it would certainly be 575 00:14:11,940 --> 00:14:14,000 Christians it would certainly be offensive to the worshippers at the 576 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:14,010 offensive to the worshippers at the 577 00:14:14,010 --> 00:14:16,790 offensive to the worshippers at the Toronto Airport Church who take their 578 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:16,800 Toronto Airport Church who take their 579 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:18,500 Toronto Airport Church who take their belief in the literal truth of the 580 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:18,510 belief in the literal truth of the 581 00:14:18,510 --> 00:14:20,750 belief in the literal truth of the resurrection of Jesus very seriously 582 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:20,760 resurrection of Jesus very seriously 583 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,750 resurrection of Jesus very seriously indeed 584 00:14:24,750 --> 00:14:24,760 585 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:30,330 sweetie 586 00:14:30,330 --> 00:14:30,340 587 00:14:30,340 --> 00:14:33,150 for these Christians the risen Christ is 588 00:14:33,150 --> 00:14:33,160 for these Christians the risen Christ is 589 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,640 for these Christians the risen Christ is an active part of the church and they 590 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:35,650 an active part of the church and they 591 00:14:35,650 --> 00:14:38,910 an active part of the church and they believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their 592 00:14:38,910 --> 00:14:38,920 believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their 593 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,530 believe that in 1994 Jesus blessed their church with a miraculous healing mission 594 00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:42,540 church with a miraculous healing mission 595 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:47,130 church with a miraculous healing mission bond brothers spark a day in the spirit 596 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:47,140 bond brothers spark a day in the spirit 597 00:14:47,140 --> 00:14:50,100 bond brothers spark a day in the spirit four minutes since then thousands of 598 00:14:50,100 --> 00:14:50,110 four minutes since then thousands of 599 00:14:50,110 --> 00:14:51,900 four minutes since then thousands of churches around the world have claimed 600 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:51,910 churches around the world have claimed 601 00:14:51,910 --> 00:14:53,430 churches around the world have claimed to be touched by what became known as 602 00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:53,440 to be touched by what became known as 603 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,810 to be touched by what became known as the Toronto blessing glorious coming 604 00:14:57,810 --> 00:14:57,820 the Toronto blessing glorious coming 605 00:14:57,820 --> 00:15:02,910 the Toronto blessing glorious coming into the room and in Toronto in a 606 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:02,920 into the room and in Toronto in a 607 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,590 into the room and in Toronto in a splendid new church built by 608 00:15:04,590 --> 00:15:04,600 splendid new church built by 609 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,810 splendid new church built by contributions from the faithful the 610 00:15:06,810 --> 00:15:06,820 contributions from the faithful the 611 00:15:06,820 --> 00:15:08,820 contributions from the faithful the congregation continued to celebrate 612 00:15:08,820 --> 00:15:08,830 congregation continued to celebrate 613 00:15:08,830 --> 00:15:10,650 congregation continued to celebrate their belief in the resurrected Christ 614 00:15:10,650 --> 00:15:10,660 their belief in the resurrected Christ 615 00:15:10,660 --> 00:15:14,519 their belief in the resurrected Christ are they less here on an almost weekly 616 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:14,529 are they less here on an almost weekly 617 00:15:14,529 --> 00:15:16,650 are they less here on an almost weekly basis they claim that their faith has 618 00:15:16,650 --> 00:15:16,660 basis they claim that their faith has 619 00:15:16,660 --> 00:15:21,000 basis they claim that their faith has the power to miraculously heal so God's 620 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:21,010 the power to miraculously heal so God's 621 00:15:21,010 --> 00:15:23,820 the power to miraculously heal so God's gonna heal you right now there it goes 622 00:15:23,820 --> 00:15:23,830 gonna heal you right now there it goes 623 00:15:23,830 --> 00:15:25,970 gonna heal you right now there it goes and the neck is healed in Jesus name 624 00:15:25,970 --> 00:15:25,980 and the neck is healed in Jesus name 625 00:15:25,980 --> 00:15:29,370 and the neck is healed in Jesus name don't you like it I like it 626 00:15:29,370 --> 00:15:29,380 don't you like it I like it 627 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:33,570 don't you like it I like it bless you brother today it seems to me 628 00:15:33,570 --> 00:15:33,580 bless you brother today it seems to me 629 00:15:33,580 --> 00:15:35,329 bless you brother today it seems to me that there are many people who will 630 00:15:35,329 --> 00:15:35,339 that there are many people who will 631 00:15:35,339 --> 00:15:38,640 that there are many people who will strongly defend the literal truth of the 632 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:38,650 strongly defend the literal truth of the 633 00:15:38,650 --> 00:15:41,190 strongly defend the literal truth of the Resurrection many others who are 634 00:15:41,190 --> 00:15:41,200 Resurrection many others who are 635 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,710 Resurrection many others who are Christians are not Christians believe 636 00:15:43,710 --> 00:15:43,720 Christians are not Christians believe 637 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,850 Christians are not Christians believe that perhaps you know those who died may 638 00:15:47,850 --> 00:15:47,860 that perhaps you know those who died may 639 00:15:47,860 --> 00:15:49,980 that perhaps you know those who died may be alive in some way that Jesus who died 640 00:15:49,980 --> 00:15:49,990 be alive in some way that Jesus who died 641 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:52,170 be alive in some way that Jesus who died might be in some sense alive whatever 642 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:52,180 might be in some sense alive whatever 643 00:15:52,180 --> 00:15:54,090 might be in some sense alive whatever one means by that and there are many 644 00:15:54,090 --> 00:15:54,100 one means by that and there are many 645 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:56,850 one means by that and there are many others who take it as a as an image of 646 00:15:56,850 --> 00:15:56,860 others who take it as a as an image of 647 00:15:56,860 --> 00:15:59,310 others who take it as a as an image of hope because after all the talking about 648 00:15:59,310 --> 00:15:59,320 hope because after all the talking about 649 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,990 hope because after all the talking about the resurrection of Jesus has a great 650 00:16:00,990 --> 00:16:01,000 the resurrection of Jesus has a great 651 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,240 the resurrection of Jesus has a great deal to do with what we think about life 652 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:03,250 deal to do with what we think about life 653 00:16:03,250 --> 00:16:05,130 deal to do with what we think about life after death or for that matter our own 654 00:16:05,130 --> 00:16:05,140 after death or for that matter our own 655 00:16:05,140 --> 00:16:07,490 after death or for that matter our own prospects 656 00:16:07,490 --> 00:16:07,500 prospects 657 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,040 prospects the problem for the church in the 21st 658 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:10,050 the problem for the church in the 21st 659 00:16:10,050 --> 00:16:12,410 the problem for the church in the 21st century in a technological and secular 660 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:12,420 century in a technological and secular 661 00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:15,140 century in a technological and secular age is that some people find it hard to 662 00:16:15,140 --> 00:16:15,150 age is that some people find it hard to 663 00:16:15,150 --> 00:16:17,120 age is that some people find it hard to believe in the literal truth of the 664 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:17,130 believe in the literal truth of the 665 00:16:17,130 --> 00:16:19,760 believe in the literal truth of the miracles let alone the miracle of the 666 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:19,770 miracles let alone the miracle of the 667 00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:21,980 miracles let alone the miracle of the resurrection since the 18th century 668 00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:21,990 resurrection since the 18th century 669 00:16:21,990 --> 00:16:24,230 resurrection since the 18th century we've lived in a climate where people 670 00:16:24,230 --> 00:16:24,240 we've lived in a climate where people 671 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,580 we've lived in a climate where people have distinguished between faith and 672 00:16:25,580 --> 00:16:25,590 have distinguished between faith and 673 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:27,980 have distinguished between faith and belief so the whole effect of science on 674 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:27,990 belief so the whole effect of science on 675 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:29,390 belief so the whole effect of science on religion really has been to throw 676 00:16:29,390 --> 00:16:29,400 religion really has been to throw 677 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,300 religion really has been to throw religion back to prove what we can 678 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:32,310 religion back to prove what we can 679 00:16:32,310 --> 00:16:35,560 religion back to prove what we can believe in but week in and week out 680 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:35,570 believe in but week in and week out 681 00:16:35,570 --> 00:16:37,580 believe in but week in and week out congregations gather in Christian 682 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:37,590 congregations gather in Christian 683 00:16:37,590 --> 00:16:40,040 congregations gather in Christian churches and recite together an ancient 684 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:40,050 churches and recite together an ancient 685 00:16:40,050 --> 00:16:43,010 churches and recite together an ancient Creed from the latin word credo meaning 686 00:16:43,010 --> 00:16:43,020 Creed from the latin word credo meaning 687 00:16:43,020 --> 00:16:47,660 Creed from the latin word credo meaning i believe we believe in one God the 688 00:16:47,660 --> 00:16:47,670 i believe we believe in one God the 689 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:51,230 i believe we believe in one God the Father the Almighty we believe in one 690 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:51,240 Father the Almighty we believe in one 691 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,040 Father the Almighty we believe in one God the Father the Almighty for our sake 692 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:55,050 God the Father the Almighty for our sake 693 00:16:55,050 --> 00:16:57,560 God the Father the Almighty for our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at 694 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:57,570 he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at 695 00:16:57,570 --> 00:17:00,200 he was crucified under Pontius Pilate at the climax of the Creed all Christians 696 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:00,210 the climax of the Creed all Christians 697 00:17:00,210 --> 00:17:02,030 the climax of the Creed all Christians affirm their belief in the resurrection 698 00:17:02,030 --> 00:17:02,040 affirm their belief in the resurrection 699 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,660 affirm their belief in the resurrection on the third day he rose again in 700 00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:05,670 on the third day he rose again in 701 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:08,000 on the third day he rose again in accordance for the Scriptures he 702 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:08,010 accordance for the Scriptures he 703 00:17:08,010 --> 00:17:10,670 accordance for the Scriptures he ascended into heaven and is seated at 704 00:17:10,670 --> 00:17:10,680 ascended into heaven and is seated at 705 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,130 ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father 706 00:17:12,130 --> 00:17:12,140 the right hand of the Father 707 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:14,870 the right hand of the Father people come again in glory to judge the 708 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:14,880 people come again in glory to judge the 709 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,810 people come again in glory to judge the living and the dead and but whatever is 710 00:17:17,810 --> 00:17:17,820 living and the dead and but whatever is 711 00:17:17,820 --> 00:17:19,640 living and the dead and but whatever is said in church many Christian 712 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:19,650 said in church many Christian 713 00:17:19,650 --> 00:17:21,680 said in church many Christian theologians no longer consider the 714 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:21,690 theologians no longer consider the 715 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:23,990 theologians no longer consider the resurrection to be an historical fact 716 00:17:23,990 --> 00:17:24,000 resurrection to be an historical fact 717 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,510 resurrection to be an historical fact and this is not just being a problem of 718 00:17:26,510 --> 00:17:26,520 and this is not just being a problem of 719 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,480 and this is not just being a problem of the 21st century a thousand years ago a 720 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:29,490 the 21st century a thousand years ago a 721 00:17:29,490 --> 00:17:31,760 the 21st century a thousand years ago a group of devout Christians in southern 722 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:31,770 group of devout Christians in southern 723 00:17:31,770 --> 00:17:34,280 group of devout Christians in southern France also held unorthodox heretical 724 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:34,290 France also held unorthodox heretical 725 00:17:34,290 --> 00:17:36,740 France also held unorthodox heretical views 726 00:17:36,740 --> 00:17:36,750 727 00:17:36,750 --> 00:17:38,390 in the eleventh and twelfth centuries 728 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:38,400 in the eleventh and twelfth centuries 729 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,240 in the eleventh and twelfth centuries the Cathars a deeply religious group 730 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:41,250 the Cathars a deeply religious group 731 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:43,820 the Cathars a deeply religious group believed that all material things were 732 00:17:43,820 --> 00:17:43,830 believed that all material things were 733 00:17:43,830 --> 00:17:46,850 believed that all material things were the work of the devil they saw Jesus as 734 00:17:46,850 --> 00:17:46,860 the work of the devil they saw Jesus as 735 00:17:46,860 --> 00:17:49,159 the work of the devil they saw Jesus as an angel who certainly could not have 736 00:17:49,159 --> 00:17:49,169 an angel who certainly could not have 737 00:17:49,169 --> 00:17:51,289 an angel who certainly could not have been physically crucified and certainly 738 00:17:51,289 --> 00:17:51,299 been physically crucified and certainly 739 00:17:51,299 --> 00:17:52,940 been physically crucified and certainly would not have been resurrected as a 740 00:17:52,940 --> 00:17:52,950 would not have been resurrected as a 741 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:57,320 would not have been resurrected as a physical body it was actually in 742 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:57,330 physical body it was actually in 743 00:17:57,330 --> 00:17:59,630 physical body it was actually in response to the Cathar heresy that the 744 00:17:59,630 --> 00:17:59,640 response to the Cathar heresy that the 745 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,500 response to the Cathar heresy that the church created the Inquisition in 1244 746 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:03,510 church created the Inquisition in 1244 747 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:06,500 church created the Inquisition in 1244 the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded 748 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:06,510 the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded 749 00:18:06,510 --> 00:18:11,610 the last 200 of the Cathars were rounded up and burned at the stake as heretics 750 00:18:11,610 --> 00:18:11,620 751 00:18:11,620 --> 00:18:13,799 the church has always reacted strongly 752 00:18:13,799 --> 00:18:13,809 the church has always reacted strongly 753 00:18:13,809 --> 00:18:15,779 the church has always reacted strongly against anyone who doubted the truth of 754 00:18:15,779 --> 00:18:15,789 against anyone who doubted the truth of 755 00:18:15,789 --> 00:18:17,640 against anyone who doubted the truth of the Resurrection because that doubt 756 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:17,650 the Resurrection because that doubt 757 00:18:17,650 --> 00:18:19,680 the Resurrection because that doubt insinuates that the very literal and 758 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:19,690 insinuates that the very literal and 759 00:18:19,690 --> 00:18:21,600 insinuates that the very literal and physical gospel descriptions of the 760 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:21,610 physical gospel descriptions of the 761 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:23,180 physical gospel descriptions of the death and resurrection of Jesus are 762 00:18:23,180 --> 00:18:23,190 death and resurrection of Jesus are 763 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:26,230 death and resurrection of Jesus are fabrications 764 00:18:26,230 --> 00:18:26,240 765 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,690 but there is one story also set in 766 00:18:28,690 --> 00:18:28,700 but there is one story also set in 767 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,580 but there is one story also set in France at about the same time as the 768 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:30,590 France at about the same time as the 769 00:18:30,590 --> 00:18:32,890 France at about the same time as the Cathars which suggests that another 770 00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:32,900 Cathars which suggests that another 771 00:18:32,900 --> 00:18:34,930 Cathars which suggests that another Christian group made a discovery which 772 00:18:34,930 --> 00:18:34,940 Christian group made a discovery which 773 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:36,880 Christian group made a discovery which really might reveal that the 774 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:36,890 really might reveal that the 775 00:18:36,890 --> 00:18:41,400 really might reveal that the resurrection story was not true 776 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:41,410 777 00:18:41,410 --> 00:18:45,070 in the 13th century this whole area was 778 00:18:45,070 --> 00:18:45,080 in the 13th century this whole area was 779 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,020 in the 13th century this whole area was a stronghold of the Knights Templar a 780 00:18:47,020 --> 00:18:47,030 a stronghold of the Knights Templar a 781 00:18:47,030 --> 00:18:49,690 a stronghold of the Knights Templar a strict religious and military order of 782 00:18:49,690 --> 00:18:49,700 strict religious and military order of 783 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:54,940 strict religious and military order of warrior monks local historian Thierry 784 00:18:54,940 --> 00:18:54,950 warrior monks local historian Thierry 785 00:18:54,950 --> 00:18:57,180 warrior monks local historian Thierry Lacan has spent the last 12 years 786 00:18:57,180 --> 00:18:57,190 Lacan has spent the last 12 years 787 00:18:57,190 --> 00:18:59,440 Lacan has spent the last 12 years uncovering the history of the Knights 788 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:59,450 uncovering the history of the Knights 789 00:18:59,450 --> 00:19:03,310 uncovering the history of the Knights Templar in this region but it um Pierre 790 00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:03,320 Templar in this region but it um Pierre 791 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,280 Templar in this region but it um Pierre boy he said the Templars came to this 792 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:06,290 boy he said the Templars came to this 793 00:19:06,290 --> 00:19:09,760 boy he said the Templars came to this region tomorrow Campania there are 794 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:09,770 region tomorrow Campania there are 795 00:19:09,770 --> 00:19:11,760 region tomorrow Campania there are traces of them all over the countryside 796 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:11,770 traces of them all over the countryside 797 00:19:11,770 --> 00:19:14,169 traces of them all over the countryside serenaded classic down there at the 798 00:19:14,169 --> 00:19:14,179 serenaded classic down there at the 799 00:19:14,179 --> 00:19:16,630 serenaded classic down there at the bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we 800 00:19:16,630 --> 00:19:16,640 bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we 801 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,730 bottom near shattered LeBlanc strong we know there are ruins of an old temple a 802 00:19:18,730 --> 00:19:18,740 know there are ruins of an old temple a 803 00:19:18,740 --> 00:19:24,960 know there are ruins of an old temple a command post on pl 804 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:24,970 805 00:19:24,970 --> 00:19:27,120 the Knights Templar were committed to 806 00:19:27,120 --> 00:19:27,130 the Knights Templar were committed to 807 00:19:27,130 --> 00:19:29,730 the Knights Templar were committed to poverty chastity and the protection of 808 00:19:29,730 --> 00:19:29,740 poverty chastity and the protection of 809 00:19:29,740 --> 00:19:32,190 poverty chastity and the protection of pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land 810 00:19:32,190 --> 00:19:32,200 pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land 811 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,200 pilgrims enroute to the Holy Land but their main purpose was to keep 812 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,210 but their main purpose was to keep 813 00:19:34,210 --> 00:19:35,849 but their main purpose was to keep Jerusalem and the holy sites of 814 00:19:35,849 --> 00:19:35,859 Jerusalem and the holy sites of 815 00:19:35,859 --> 00:19:38,039 Jerusalem and the holy sites of Christianity free from the forces of 816 00:19:38,039 --> 00:19:38,049 Christianity free from the forces of 817 00:19:38,049 --> 00:19:43,260 Christianity free from the forces of Islam 818 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:43,270 819 00:19:43,270 --> 00:19:45,150 during the years they were in the Holy 820 00:19:45,150 --> 00:19:45,160 during the years they were in the Holy 821 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,919 during the years they were in the Holy Land the Templars built their own 822 00:19:46,919 --> 00:19:46,929 Land the Templars built their own 823 00:19:46,929 --> 00:19:50,900 Land the Templars built their own castles but they buried their dead in 824 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:50,910 castles but they buried their dead in 825 00:19:50,910 --> 00:19:53,460 castles but they buried their dead in graveyards they excavated near to the 826 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:53,470 graveyards they excavated near to the 827 00:19:53,470 --> 00:19:56,250 graveyards they excavated near to the original temple of Solomon and certainly 828 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:56,260 original temple of Solomon and certainly 829 00:19:56,260 --> 00:19:58,530 original temple of Solomon and certainly during this time they were thought to 830 00:19:58,530 --> 00:19:58,540 during this time they were thought to 831 00:19:58,540 --> 00:20:02,640 during this time they were thought to have discovered great treasures 832 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:02,650 833 00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:04,950 eventually the Templars were forced to 834 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:04,960 eventually the Templars were forced to 835 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,820 eventually the Templars were forced to leave the Holy Land in 1186 they 836 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:08,830 leave the Holy Land in 1186 they 837 00:20:08,830 --> 00:20:13,409 leave the Holy Land in 1186 they returned to France 838 00:20:13,409 --> 00:20:13,419 839 00:20:13,419 --> 00:20:15,899 suddenly the Templars remained powerful 840 00:20:15,899 --> 00:20:15,909 suddenly the Templars remained powerful 841 00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:18,869 suddenly the Templars remained powerful rich and incredibly secretive so it's 842 00:20:18,869 --> 00:20:18,879 rich and incredibly secretive so it's 843 00:20:18,879 --> 00:20:20,609 rich and incredibly secretive so it's not surprising that people speculated 844 00:20:20,609 --> 00:20:20,619 not surprising that people speculated 845 00:20:20,619 --> 00:20:23,339 not surprising that people speculated about them and the grew a legend that 846 00:20:23,339 --> 00:20:23,349 about them and the grew a legend that 847 00:20:23,349 --> 00:20:25,589 about them and the grew a legend that the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus 848 00:20:25,589 --> 00:20:25,599 the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus 849 00:20:25,599 --> 00:20:28,259 the Knights Templar had discovered Jesus bones in Jerusalem that they had brought 850 00:20:28,259 --> 00:20:28,269 bones in Jerusalem that they had brought 851 00:20:28,269 --> 00:20:30,539 bones in Jerusalem that they had brought them back to France and they had buried 852 00:20:30,539 --> 00:20:30,549 them back to France and they had buried 853 00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:45,470 them back to France and they had buried them somewhere near here 854 00:20:45,470 --> 00:20:45,480 855 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,810 the legend that a thousand years ago the 856 00:20:48,810 --> 00:20:48,820 the legend that a thousand years ago the 857 00:20:48,820 --> 00:20:51,060 the legend that a thousand years ago the Templars might have found an asura box 858 00:20:51,060 --> 00:20:51,070 Templars might have found an asura box 859 00:20:51,070 --> 00:20:53,760 Templars might have found an asura box containing Jesus bones has led modern 860 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:53,770 containing Jesus bones has led modern 861 00:20:53,770 --> 00:20:55,950 containing Jesus bones has led modern scholars to a small church in the 862 00:20:55,950 --> 00:20:55,960 scholars to a small church in the 863 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:02,220 scholars to a small church in the village of rennes-le-chateau writer 864 00:21:02,220 --> 00:21:02,230 village of rennes-le-chateau writer 865 00:21:02,230 --> 00:21:04,590 village of rennes-le-chateau writer Richard Andrews is convinced that there 866 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:04,600 Richard Andrews is convinced that there 867 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,480 Richard Andrews is convinced that there are clues here that might reveal what 868 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:06,490 are clues here that might reveal what 869 00:21:06,490 --> 00:21:08,820 are clues here that might reveal what exactly the Templars did find during 870 00:21:08,820 --> 00:21:08,830 exactly the Templars did find during 871 00:21:08,830 --> 00:21:14,789 exactly the Templars did find during their excavations in Jerusalem one can 872 00:21:14,789 --> 00:21:14,799 their excavations in Jerusalem one can 873 00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:18,060 their excavations in Jerusalem one can ask the question did the Templars find 874 00:21:18,060 --> 00:21:18,070 ask the question did the Templars find 875 00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:21,899 ask the question did the Templars find relics a Nasri full of bones that they 876 00:21:21,899 --> 00:21:21,909 relics a Nasri full of bones that they 877 00:21:21,909 --> 00:21:24,770 relics a Nasri full of bones that they thought were possibly the bones of Jesus 878 00:21:24,770 --> 00:21:24,780 thought were possibly the bones of Jesus 879 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:26,970 thought were possibly the bones of Jesus now if they had found these it would 880 00:21:26,970 --> 00:21:26,980 now if they had found these it would 881 00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:28,950 now if they had found these it would have been a shock to the system because 882 00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:28,960 have been a shock to the system because 883 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,140 have been a shock to the system because the Templars were good Christians this 884 00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:31,150 the Templars were good Christians this 885 00:21:31,150 --> 00:21:35,010 the Templars were good Christians this would challenge the whole doctrine of 886 00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:35,020 would challenge the whole doctrine of 887 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:37,740 would challenge the whole doctrine of resurrection because here are mortal 888 00:21:37,740 --> 00:21:37,750 resurrection because here are mortal 889 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:39,990 resurrection because here are mortal remains so he asked a second question 890 00:21:39,990 --> 00:21:40,000 remains so he asked a second question 891 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,100 remains so he asked a second question why should the Templars risk being 892 00:21:44,100 --> 00:21:44,110 why should the Templars risk being 893 00:21:44,110 --> 00:21:46,490 why should the Templars risk being accused of heresy and bringing the bones 894 00:21:46,490 --> 00:21:46,500 accused of heresy and bringing the bones 895 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,840 accused of heresy and bringing the bones that they thought were Jesus's back to 896 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:48,850 that they thought were Jesus's back to 897 00:21:48,850 --> 00:21:52,440 that they thought were Jesus's back to this area the answer is simple if they 898 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:52,450 this area the answer is simple if they 899 00:21:52,450 --> 00:21:54,870 this area the answer is simple if they had found something which they believed 900 00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:54,880 had found something which they believed 901 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,510 had found something which they believed with the bones of Christ they needed a 902 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:57,520 with the bones of Christ they needed a 903 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,450 with the bones of Christ they needed a safe location you could hide a church in 904 00:22:00,450 --> 00:22:00,460 safe location you could hide a church in 905 00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:01,919 safe location you could hide a church in these mountains let alone a small 906 00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:01,929 these mountains let alone a small 907 00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:03,899 these mountains let alone a small nursery you can get lost in these 908 00:22:03,899 --> 00:22:03,909 nursery you can get lost in these 909 00:22:03,909 --> 00:22:06,270 nursery you can get lost in these mountains today imagine what it was like 910 00:22:06,270 --> 00:22:06,280 mountains today imagine what it was like 911 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,220 mountains today imagine what it was like a thousand years ago 912 00:22:10,220 --> 00:22:10,230 913 00:22:10,230 --> 00:22:13,290 in the late 19th century the local 914 00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:13,300 in the late 19th century the local 915 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:15,390 in the late 19th century the local priest here called Behringer Sonier 916 00:22:15,390 --> 00:22:15,400 priest here called Behringer Sonier 917 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:18,030 priest here called Behringer Sonier claimed to have found ancient documents 918 00:22:18,030 --> 00:22:18,040 claimed to have found ancient documents 919 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,880 claimed to have found ancient documents and whatever they were he certainly 920 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:20,890 and whatever they were he certainly 921 00:22:20,890 --> 00:22:25,830 and whatever they were he certainly became very rich afterwards Richard 922 00:22:25,830 --> 00:22:25,840 became very rich afterwards Richard 923 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,750 became very rich afterwards Richard Andrews has found clues among these 924 00:22:27,750 --> 00:22:27,760 Andrews has found clues among these 925 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,240 Andrews has found clues among these parchments using elaborate geometry and 926 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,250 parchments using elaborate geometry and 927 00:22:30,250 --> 00:22:32,160 parchments using elaborate geometry and transferring symbols from ancient 928 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,170 transferring symbols from ancient 929 00:22:32,170 --> 00:22:34,830 transferring symbols from ancient paintings onto equally ancient maps all 930 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:34,840 paintings onto equally ancient maps all 931 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,870 paintings onto equally ancient maps all in the hope of finding a Templar 932 00:22:36,870 --> 00:22:36,880 in the hope of finding a Templar 933 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,270 in the hope of finding a Templar treasure trove the clues that we found 934 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:41,280 treasure trove the clues that we found 935 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,540 treasure trove the clues that we found point to a map in the form of a hexagram 936 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:45,550 point to a map in the form of a hexagram 937 00:22:45,550 --> 00:22:47,580 point to a map in the form of a hexagram which is also known as the city of 938 00:22:47,580 --> 00:22:47,590 which is also known as the city of 939 00:22:47,590 --> 00:22:50,030 which is also known as the city of Solomon but it is the Star of David 940 00:22:50,030 --> 00:22:50,040 Solomon but it is the Star of David 941 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:55,020 Solomon but it is the Star of David this map points to a specific site now 942 00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:55,030 this map points to a specific site now 943 00:22:55,030 --> 00:22:58,020 this map points to a specific site now we know that the priest Vera jessenia 944 00:22:58,020 --> 00:22:58,030 we know that the priest Vera jessenia 945 00:22:58,030 --> 00:23:00,660 we know that the priest Vera jessenia became fabulously wealthy but we are 946 00:23:00,660 --> 00:23:00,670 became fabulously wealthy but we are 947 00:23:00,670 --> 00:23:03,060 became fabulously wealthy but we are sure that he didn't actually find what 948 00:23:03,060 --> 00:23:03,070 sure that he didn't actually find what 949 00:23:03,070 --> 00:23:06,330 sure that he didn't actually find what he was looking for we can deduce perhaps 950 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:06,340 he was looking for we can deduce perhaps 951 00:23:06,340 --> 00:23:08,970 he was looking for we can deduce perhaps that Sarnia received money from patrons 952 00:23:08,970 --> 00:23:08,980 that Sarnia received money from patrons 953 00:23:08,980 --> 00:23:14,700 that Sarnia received money from patrons to look for a location in the area that 954 00:23:14,700 --> 00:23:14,710 to look for a location in the area that 955 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:18,200 to look for a location in the area that might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ 956 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:18,210 might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ 957 00:23:18,210 --> 00:23:20,989 might reveal perhaps the bones of Christ whatever it is we do know one thing for 958 00:23:20,989 --> 00:23:20,999 whatever it is we do know one thing for 959 00:23:20,999 --> 00:23:21,710 whatever it is we do know one thing for sure 960 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:21,720 sure 961 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,249 sure the secret that Sony a was giving clues 962 00:23:25,249 --> 00:23:25,259 the secret that Sony a was giving clues 963 00:23:25,259 --> 00:23:30,590 the secret that Sony a was giving clues to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and 964 00:23:30,590 --> 00:23:30,600 to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and 965 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,109 to was heretical Sony a died in 1917 and took his secret with him to the grave 966 00:23:32,109 --> 00:23:32,119 took his secret with him to the grave 967 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,850 took his secret with him to the grave that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like 968 00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:34,860 that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like 969 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:37,129 that hasn't stopped enthusiasts like Thierry Lacan from continuing to search 970 00:23:37,129 --> 00:23:37,139 Thierry Lacan from continuing to search 971 00:23:37,139 --> 00:23:39,289 Thierry Lacan from continuing to search on the basis of Richards work and trying 972 00:23:39,289 --> 00:23:39,299 on the basis of Richards work and trying 973 00:23:39,299 --> 00:23:41,270 on the basis of Richards work and trying to solve the mystery 974 00:23:41,270 --> 00:23:41,280 to solve the mystery 975 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,910 to solve the mystery using local maps on which the geometric 976 00:23:43,910 --> 00:23:43,920 using local maps on which the geometric 977 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,070 using local maps on which the geometric lines from Sonia's original parchments 978 00:23:46,070 --> 00:23:46,080 lines from Sonia's original parchments 979 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,530 lines from Sonia's original parchments have been transposed Thierry has found 980 00:23:48,530 --> 00:23:48,540 have been transposed Thierry has found 981 00:23:48,540 --> 00:23:49,970 have been transposed Thierry has found further evidence of the Templars 982 00:23:49,970 --> 00:23:49,980 further evidence of the Templars 983 00:23:49,980 --> 00:23:52,220 further evidence of the Templars presence here and he believes he's 984 00:23:52,220 --> 00:23:52,230 presence here and he believes he's 985 00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:53,930 presence here and he believes he's closing in on the location where the 986 00:23:53,930 --> 00:23:53,940 closing in on the location where the 987 00:23:53,940 --> 00:23:56,030 closing in on the location where the Templars could have buried the bones of 988 00:23:56,030 --> 00:23:56,040 Templars could have buried the bones of 989 00:23:56,040 --> 00:24:00,030 Templars could have buried the bones of Jesus 990 00:24:00,030 --> 00:24:00,040 991 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,160 lambs are you to submit there you have 992 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,170 lambs are you to submit there you have 993 00:24:02,170 --> 00:24:04,110 lambs are you to submit there you have the summit of Mount Carter and there are 994 00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:04,120 the summit of Mount Carter and there are 995 00:24:04,120 --> 00:24:06,210 the summit of Mount Carter and there are two Cedars there about ten meters 996 00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:06,220 two Cedars there about ten meters 997 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:08,850 two Cedars there about ten meters distance between them each one that you 998 00:24:08,850 --> 00:24:08,860 distance between them each one that you 999 00:24:08,860 --> 00:24:11,550 distance between them each one that you know they form an alignment traversing 1000 00:24:11,550 --> 00:24:11,560 know they form an alignment traversing 1001 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,770 know they form an alignment traversing the valley of raillery 1002 00:24:12,770 --> 00:24:12,780 the valley of raillery 1003 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:14,840 the valley of raillery arriving at the plateau Dipple year 1004 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:14,850 arriving at the plateau Dipple year 1005 00:24:14,850 --> 00:24:16,980 arriving at the plateau Dipple year where there's a rock with a cross one 1006 00:24:16,980 --> 00:24:16,990 where there's a rock with a cross one 1007 00:24:16,990 --> 00:24:18,600 where there's a rock with a cross one peeler not anymore 1008 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:18,610 peeler not anymore 1009 00:24:18,610 --> 00:24:21,510 peeler not anymore you know said I lined up the compass I 1010 00:24:21,510 --> 00:24:21,520 you know said I lined up the compass I 1011 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,950 you know said I lined up the compass I took a long time and I made a lot of 1012 00:24:22,950 --> 00:24:22,960 took a long time and I made a lot of 1013 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,690 took a long time and I made a lot of mistakes is she coming out of your good 1014 00:24:24,690 --> 00:24:24,700 mistakes is she coming out of your good 1015 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,630 mistakes is she coming out of your good initiative but I was convinced I'd find 1016 00:24:27,630 --> 00:24:27,640 initiative but I was convinced I'd find 1017 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,740 initiative but I was convinced I'd find something a cedar or another cross and 1018 00:24:30,740 --> 00:24:30,750 something a cedar or another cross and 1019 00:24:30,750 --> 00:24:43,850 something a cedar or another cross and then I found a cross 1020 00:24:43,850 --> 00:24:43,860 1021 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:45,930 well that's it from me there's the 1022 00:24:45,930 --> 00:24:45,940 well that's it from me there's the 1023 00:24:45,940 --> 00:24:48,360 well that's it from me there's the famous cross as you see pass the along 1024 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:48,370 famous cross as you see pass the along 1025 00:24:48,370 --> 00:24:50,130 famous cross as you see pass the along top I spent a long time very near it 1026 00:24:50,130 --> 00:24:50,140 top I spent a long time very near it 1027 00:24:50,140 --> 00:24:52,590 top I spent a long time very near it without finding the place Jayantilal 1028 00:24:52,590 --> 00:24:52,600 without finding the place Jayantilal 1029 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,540 without finding the place Jayantilal it was a little setback from the plateau 1030 00:24:54,540 --> 00:24:54,550 it was a little setback from the plateau 1031 00:24:54,550 --> 00:24:58,110 it was a little setback from the plateau yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me 1032 00:24:58,110 --> 00:24:58,120 yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me 1033 00:24:58,120 --> 00:25:04,500 yeah Jamia prepare do sample it took me 12 years to find this cross even if the 1034 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:04,510 12 years to find this cross even if the 1035 00:25:04,510 --> 00:25:06,900 12 years to find this cross even if the Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in 1036 00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:06,910 Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in 1037 00:25:06,910 --> 00:25:08,970 Knights Templar did bring Jesus bones in an asura box back here from the Holy 1038 00:25:08,970 --> 00:25:08,980 an asura box back here from the Holy 1039 00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:11,700 an asura box back here from the Holy Land it seems unlikely the Thierry 1040 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:11,710 Land it seems unlikely the Thierry 1041 00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:13,830 Land it seems unlikely the Thierry Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever 1042 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:13,840 Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever 1043 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,619 Lacombe or Richard Andrews would ever find them in these mountains 1044 00:25:16,619 --> 00:25:16,629 find them in these mountains 1045 00:25:16,629 --> 00:25:19,239 find them in these mountains however there have been those who've 1046 00:25:19,239 --> 00:25:19,249 however there have been those who've 1047 00:25:19,249 --> 00:25:21,369 however there have been those who've gone back to the original gospel stories 1048 00:25:21,369 --> 00:25:21,379 gone back to the original gospel stories 1049 00:25:21,379 --> 00:25:23,739 gone back to the original gospel stories of Jesus death and resurrection and come 1050 00:25:23,739 --> 00:25:23,749 of Jesus death and resurrection and come 1051 00:25:23,749 --> 00:25:25,599 of Jesus death and resurrection and come up with more credible but no less 1052 00:25:25,599 --> 00:25:25,609 up with more credible but no less 1053 00:25:25,609 --> 00:25:28,060 up with more credible but no less startling conclusions about what exactly 1054 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:28,070 startling conclusions about what exactly 1055 00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:31,869 startling conclusions about what exactly happened 2,000 years ago he read the 1056 00:25:31,869 --> 00:25:31,879 happened 2,000 years ago he read the 1057 00:25:31,879 --> 00:25:35,769 happened 2,000 years ago he read the story of the empty tomb and on Friday 1058 00:25:35,769 --> 00:25:35,779 story of the empty tomb and on Friday 1059 00:25:35,779 --> 00:25:37,779 story of the empty tomb and on Friday someone is killed and on Sunday they're 1060 00:25:37,779 --> 00:25:37,789 someone is killed and on Sunday they're 1061 00:25:37,789 --> 00:25:40,209 someone is killed and on Sunday they're gone from the tomb and you asked the 1062 00:25:40,209 --> 00:25:40,219 gone from the tomb and you asked the 1063 00:25:40,219 --> 00:25:42,820 gone from the tomb and you asked the question what might have happened either 1064 00:25:42,820 --> 00:25:42,830 question what might have happened either 1065 00:25:42,830 --> 00:25:45,310 question what might have happened either God raised him from the dead which is 1066 00:25:45,310 --> 00:25:45,320 God raised him from the dead which is 1067 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,379 God raised him from the dead which is the traditional Christian affirmation or 1068 00:25:47,379 --> 00:25:47,389 the traditional Christian affirmation or 1069 00:25:47,389 --> 00:25:49,299 the traditional Christian affirmation or the body was carried away by someone 1070 00:25:49,299 --> 00:25:49,309 the body was carried away by someone 1071 00:25:49,309 --> 00:25:52,629 the body was carried away by someone body stolen but there is another 1072 00:25:52,629 --> 00:25:52,639 body stolen but there is another 1073 00:25:52,639 --> 00:25:56,049 body stolen but there is another possibility the Gospels describe how 1074 00:25:56,049 --> 00:25:56,059 possibility the Gospels describe how 1075 00:25:56,059 --> 00:25:59,319 possibility the Gospels describe how after his resurrection Jesus ate drank 1076 00:25:59,319 --> 00:25:59,329 after his resurrection Jesus ate drank 1077 00:25:59,329 --> 00:26:02,830 after his resurrection Jesus ate drank and Thomas could touch his wounds 1078 00:26:02,830 --> 00:26:02,840 and Thomas could touch his wounds 1079 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,869 and Thomas could touch his wounds it's therefore perhaps not surprising 1080 00:26:04,869 --> 00:26:04,879 it's therefore perhaps not surprising 1081 00:26:04,879 --> 00:26:06,759 it's therefore perhaps not surprising that some people who've looked for 1082 00:26:06,759 --> 00:26:06,769 that some people who've looked for 1083 00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:08,950 that some people who've looked for natural explanations of miracles have 1084 00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:08,960 natural explanations of miracles have 1085 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080 natural explanations of miracles have suggested that Jesus was alive 1086 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:11,090 suggested that Jesus was alive 1087 00:26:11,090 --> 00:26:14,320 suggested that Jesus was alive because he didn't die on the cross there 1088 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:14,330 because he didn't die on the cross there 1089 00:26:14,330 --> 00:26:16,899 because he didn't die on the cross there are many versions of that story one came 1090 00:26:16,899 --> 00:26:16,909 are many versions of that story one came 1091 00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:18,369 are many versions of that story one came up in a book years ago called the 1092 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:18,379 up in a book years ago called the 1093 00:26:18,379 --> 00:26:20,529 up in a book years ago called the Passover plot which suggested that he 1094 00:26:20,529 --> 00:26:20,539 Passover plot which suggested that he 1095 00:26:20,539 --> 00:26:22,419 Passover plot which suggested that he had been sedated on the cross that he 1096 00:26:22,419 --> 00:26:22,429 had been sedated on the cross that he 1097 00:26:22,429 --> 00:26:24,700 had been sedated on the cross that he was removed quite early and therefore 1098 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:24,710 was removed quite early and therefore 1099 00:26:24,710 --> 00:26:25,840 was removed quite early and therefore could well have survived that's 1100 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:25,850 could well have survived that's 1101 00:26:25,850 --> 00:26:29,470 could well have survived that's certainly a possibility the disciples 1102 00:26:29,470 --> 00:26:29,480 certainly a possibility the disciples 1103 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,810 certainly a possibility the disciples did manage to give Jesus some kind of 1104 00:26:31,810 --> 00:26:31,820 did manage to give Jesus some kind of 1105 00:26:31,820 --> 00:26:35,440 did manage to give Jesus some kind of substance on a sponge they filled a 1106 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:35,450 substance on a sponge they filled a 1107 00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:37,539 substance on a sponge they filled a sponge with vinegar and put it upon 1108 00:26:37,539 --> 00:26:37,549 sponge with vinegar and put it upon 1109 00:26:37,549 --> 00:26:41,259 sponge with vinegar and put it upon hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus 1110 00:26:41,259 --> 00:26:41,269 hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus 1111 00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:43,600 hyssop and put it to his mouth and Jesus immediately died after taking this 1112 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:43,610 immediately died after taking this 1113 00:26:43,610 --> 00:26:46,359 immediately died after taking this substance when Jesus had received the 1114 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,369 substance when Jesus had received the 1115 00:26:46,369 --> 00:26:52,720 substance when Jesus had received the vinegar he said it is finished but oddly 1116 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:52,730 vinegar he said it is finished but oddly 1117 00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:54,759 vinegar he said it is finished but oddly enough it isn't necessary to suggest 1118 00:26:54,759 --> 00:26:54,769 enough it isn't necessary to suggest 1119 00:26:54,769 --> 00:26:57,310 enough it isn't necessary to suggest that Jesus was sedated or drugged by 1120 00:26:57,310 --> 00:26:57,320 that Jesus was sedated or drugged by 1121 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,230 that Jesus was sedated or drugged by whatever was on the sponge in order to 1122 00:26:59,230 --> 00:26:59,240 whatever was on the sponge in order to 1123 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,210 whatever was on the sponge in order to believe that he could have survived the 1124 00:27:01,210 --> 00:27:01,220 believe that he could have survived the 1125 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,700 believe that he could have survived the are stories of people who did survive 1126 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:03,710 are stories of people who did survive 1127 00:27:03,710 --> 00:27:06,580 are stories of people who did survive crucifixion the Jewish historian 1128 00:27:06,580 --> 00:27:06,590 crucifixion the Jewish historian 1129 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:09,220 crucifixion the Jewish historian Josephus wrote of one of his own friends 1130 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:09,230 Josephus wrote of one of his own friends 1131 00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:11,529 Josephus wrote of one of his own friends surviving crucifixion in Palestine in 1132 00:27:11,529 --> 00:27:11,539 surviving crucifixion in Palestine in 1133 00:27:11,539 --> 00:27:15,220 surviving crucifixion in Palestine in the first century he's travelling out to 1134 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:15,230 the first century he's travelling out to 1135 00:27:15,230 --> 00:27:18,159 the first century he's travelling out to a village named Toccoa to scout land for 1136 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:18,169 a village named Toccoa to scout land for 1137 00:27:18,169 --> 00:27:21,249 a village named Toccoa to scout land for a Roman camp and he notices that three 1138 00:27:21,249 --> 00:27:21,259 a Roman camp and he notices that three 1139 00:27:21,259 --> 00:27:24,460 a Roman camp and he notices that three of his friends are hanging on crosses so 1140 00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:24,470 of his friends are hanging on crosses so 1141 00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:27,850 of his friends are hanging on crosses so he requests that they be allowed to they 1142 00:27:27,850 --> 00:27:27,860 he requests that they be allowed to they 1143 00:27:27,860 --> 00:27:30,519 he requests that they be allowed to they be brought down and Titus the Roman 1144 00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:30,529 be brought down and Titus the Roman 1145 00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:32,980 be brought down and Titus the Roman general gives him permission the three 1146 00:27:32,980 --> 00:27:32,990 general gives him permission the three 1147 00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:34,720 general gives him permission the three are brought down immediately and given 1148 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:34,730 are brought down immediately and given 1149 00:27:34,730 --> 00:27:37,480 are brought down immediately and given medical care and two of them died but 1150 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:37,490 medical care and two of them died but 1151 00:27:37,490 --> 00:27:40,390 medical care and two of them died but the third survived 1152 00:27:40,390 --> 00:27:40,400 the third survived 1153 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,080 the third survived so is it possible that Jesus survived 1154 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:43,090 so is it possible that Jesus survived 1155 00:27:43,090 --> 00:27:45,610 so is it possible that Jesus survived certainly his crucifixion was speedily 1156 00:27:45,610 --> 00:27:45,620 certainly his crucifixion was speedily 1157 00:27:45,620 --> 00:27:49,420 certainly his crucifixion was speedily executed perhaps too speedily when you 1158 00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:49,430 executed perhaps too speedily when you 1159 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:52,660 executed perhaps too speedily when you look at the story of Jesus and how I was 1160 00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:52,670 look at the story of Jesus and how I was 1161 00:27:52,670 --> 00:27:54,670 look at the story of Jesus and how I was executed by the Romans he's on the cross 1162 00:27:54,670 --> 00:27:54,680 executed by the Romans he's on the cross 1163 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,950 executed by the Romans he's on the cross for six hours the assumption is that 1164 00:27:56,950 --> 00:27:56,960 for six hours the assumption is that 1165 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,920 for six hours the assumption is that he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the 1166 00:27:59,920 --> 00:27:59,930 he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the 1167 00:27:59,930 --> 00:28:02,980 he's dead the Roman soldiers checked the body there were two others crucified 1168 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:02,990 body there were two others crucified 1169 00:28:02,990 --> 00:28:05,520 body there were two others crucified according to the Gospel accounts and 1170 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:05,530 according to the Gospel accounts and 1171 00:28:05,530 --> 00:28:08,320 according to the Gospel accounts and they broke the legs of those to hasten 1172 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:08,330 they broke the legs of those to hasten 1173 00:28:08,330 --> 00:28:10,510 they broke the legs of those to hasten their death because the Sabbath day was 1174 00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:10,520 their death because the Sabbath day was 1175 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,210 their death because the Sabbath day was coming when they came to Jesus they said 1176 00:28:13,210 --> 00:28:13,220 coming when they came to Jesus they said 1177 00:28:13,220 --> 00:28:14,620 coming when they came to Jesus they said he he's already dead 1178 00:28:14,620 --> 00:28:14,630 he he's already dead 1179 00:28:14,630 --> 00:28:18,370 he he's already dead presumably his body's motionless he's 1180 00:28:18,370 --> 00:28:18,380 presumably his body's motionless he's 1181 00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:23,169 presumably his body's motionless he's quit breathing they then prepare the 1182 00:28:23,169 --> 00:28:23,179 quit breathing they then prepare the 1183 00:28:23,179 --> 00:28:24,780 quit breathing they then prepare the body and put him in a tomb and 1184 00:28:24,780 --> 00:28:24,790 body and put him in a tomb and 1185 00:28:24,790 --> 00:28:28,810 body and put him in a tomb and presumably it's sealed up and he's dead 1186 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:28,820 presumably it's sealed up and he's dead 1187 00:28:28,820 --> 00:28:32,710 presumably it's sealed up and he's dead for all practical purposes the question 1188 00:28:32,710 --> 00:28:32,720 for all practical purposes the question 1189 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,040 for all practical purposes the question though is is he clinically dead the 1190 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:36,050 though is is he clinically dead the 1191 00:28:36,050 --> 00:28:38,049 though is is he clinically dead the question of clinical death is certainly 1192 00:28:38,049 --> 00:28:38,059 question of clinical death is certainly 1193 00:28:38,059 --> 00:28:40,180 question of clinical death is certainly raised by the fact that the herbs which 1194 00:28:40,180 --> 00:28:40,190 raised by the fact that the herbs which 1195 00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:42,280 raised by the fact that the herbs which joseph of arimathea took into the tomb 1196 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:42,290 joseph of arimathea took into the tomb 1197 00:28:42,290 --> 00:28:45,220 joseph of arimathea took into the tomb with the body of Jesus were aloes these 1198 00:28:45,220 --> 00:28:45,230 with the body of Jesus were aloes these 1199 00:28:45,230 --> 00:28:48,310 with the body of Jesus were aloes these are healing not embalming hubs we do 1200 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:48,320 are healing not embalming hubs we do 1201 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,530 are healing not embalming hubs we do have stories both from the modern world 1202 00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:50,540 have stories both from the modern world 1203 00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:52,150 have stories both from the modern world and from the ancient world or people 1204 00:28:52,150 --> 00:28:52,160 and from the ancient world or people 1205 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,790 and from the ancient world or people appear to be dead and for all practical 1206 00:28:54,790 --> 00:28:54,800 appear to be dead and for all practical 1207 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,950 appear to be dead and for all practical purposes they are dead that is they're 1208 00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:56,960 purposes they are dead that is they're 1209 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,070 purposes they are dead that is they're not responding to the outside world but 1210 00:29:00,070 --> 00:29:00,080 not responding to the outside world but 1211 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,370 not responding to the outside world but then they do in fact revive or come back 1212 00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:03,380 then they do in fact revive or come back 1213 00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:07,900 then they do in fact revive or come back we call it resuscitation but if you want 1214 00:29:07,900 --> 00:29:07,910 we call it resuscitation but if you want 1215 00:29:07,910 --> 00:29:09,490 we call it resuscitation but if you want to press the language that would be 1216 00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:09,500 to press the language that would be 1217 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:17,669 to press the language that would be resurrection 1218 00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:17,679 1219 00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:20,889 the idea that Jesus might have survived 1220 00:29:20,889 --> 00:29:20,899 the idea that Jesus might have survived 1221 00:29:20,899 --> 00:29:23,230 the idea that Jesus might have survived the crucifixion rather than risen from 1222 00:29:23,230 --> 00:29:23,240 the crucifixion rather than risen from 1223 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,799 the crucifixion rather than risen from the dead 1224 00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:23,809 the dead 1225 00:29:23,809 --> 00:29:28,149 the dead seems provocative but all the Gospels 1226 00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:28,159 seems provocative but all the Gospels 1227 00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,159 seems provocative but all the Gospels are quite clear that the disciples saw 1228 00:29:30,159 --> 00:29:30,169 are quite clear that the disciples saw 1229 00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:33,999 are quite clear that the disciples saw Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did 1230 00:29:33,999 --> 00:29:34,009 Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did 1231 00:29:34,009 --> 00:29:36,159 Jesus as if he were alive if Jesus did survive it does not necessarily mean 1232 00:29:36,159 --> 00:29:36,169 survive it does not necessarily mean 1233 00:29:36,169 --> 00:29:38,169 survive it does not necessarily mean that the resurrection story was a hoax 1234 00:29:38,169 --> 00:29:38,179 that the resurrection story was a hoax 1235 00:29:38,179 --> 00:29:43,029 that the resurrection story was a hoax or a deliberate falsehood at the end of 1236 00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:43,039 or a deliberate falsehood at the end of 1237 00:29:43,039 --> 00:29:44,980 or a deliberate falsehood at the end of the 19th century the English writer 1238 00:29:44,980 --> 00:29:44,990 the 19th century the English writer 1239 00:29:44,990 --> 00:29:46,989 the 19th century the English writer Samuel Butler in his book on the 1240 00:29:46,989 --> 00:29:46,999 Samuel Butler in his book on the 1241 00:29:46,999 --> 00:29:48,700 Samuel Butler in his book on the resurrection came up with the theory 1242 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:48,710 resurrection came up with the theory 1243 00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:51,489 resurrection came up with the theory that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock 1244 00:29:51,489 --> 00:29:51,499 that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock 1245 00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:53,680 that if Jesus had collapsed into a shock induced coma on the cross and then 1246 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:53,690 induced coma on the cross and then 1247 00:29:53,690 --> 00:29:56,289 induced coma on the cross and then recovered in the tomb he and his 1248 00:29:56,289 --> 00:29:56,299 recovered in the tomb he and his 1249 00:29:56,299 --> 00:29:58,090 recovered in the tomb he and his disciples would actually have thought 1250 00:29:58,090 --> 00:29:58,100 disciples would actually have thought 1251 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,009 disciples would actually have thought his recovery was a miraculous 1252 00:30:00,009 --> 00:30:00,019 his recovery was a miraculous 1253 00:30:00,019 --> 00:30:04,180 his recovery was a miraculous resurrection but still has great 1254 00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:04,190 resurrection but still has great 1255 00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:06,100 resurrection but still has great credibility if you see it in the light 1256 00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:06,110 credibility if you see it in the light 1257 00:30:06,110 --> 00:30:07,450 credibility if you see it in the light for instance of more contemporary 1258 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:07,460 for instance of more contemporary 1259 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:09,129 for instance of more contemporary developments look at the near-death 1260 00:30:09,129 --> 00:30:09,139 developments look at the near-death 1261 00:30:09,139 --> 00:30:10,450 developments look at the near-death experience in the United States 1262 00:30:10,450 --> 00:30:10,460 experience in the United States 1263 00:30:10,460 --> 00:30:12,340 experience in the United States something like 13 million people in the 1264 00:30:12,340 --> 00:30:12,350 something like 13 million people in the 1265 00:30:12,350 --> 00:30:13,960 something like 13 million people in the United States say they've had near-death 1266 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:13,970 United States say they've had near-death 1267 00:30:13,970 --> 00:30:16,060 United States say they've had near-death experiences they've seen this white 1268 00:30:16,060 --> 00:30:16,070 experiences they've seen this white 1269 00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:18,070 experiences they've seen this white light they believe it should be some 1270 00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:18,080 light they believe it should be some 1271 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,289 light they believe it should be some form of miracle so the idea that in the 1272 00:30:20,289 --> 00:30:20,299 form of miracle so the idea that in the 1273 00:30:20,299 --> 00:30:21,519 form of miracle so the idea that in the first century when they have none of 1274 00:30:21,519 --> 00:30:21,529 first century when they have none of 1275 00:30:21,529 --> 00:30:22,869 first century when they have none of this scientific insight and they had 1276 00:30:22,869 --> 00:30:22,879 this scientific insight and they had 1277 00:30:22,879 --> 00:30:24,460 this scientific insight and they had none of these hospitals or whatever to 1278 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:24,470 none of these hospitals or whatever to 1279 00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:26,200 none of these hospitals or whatever to save them that people thought it 1280 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:26,210 save them that people thought it 1281 00:30:26,210 --> 00:30:28,359 save them that people thought it actually makes a lot of sense doesn't 1282 00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:28,369 actually makes a lot of sense doesn't 1283 00:30:28,369 --> 00:30:30,340 actually makes a lot of sense doesn't make them fraudsters or shysters it 1284 00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:30,350 make them fraudsters or shysters it 1285 00:30:30,350 --> 00:30:32,200 make them fraudsters or shysters it actually makes them genuine people who 1286 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:32,210 actually makes them genuine people who 1287 00:30:32,210 --> 00:30:34,590 actually makes them genuine people who thought they'd witnessed a miracle 1288 00:30:34,590 --> 00:30:34,600 thought they'd witnessed a miracle 1289 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:37,629 thought they'd witnessed a miracle whatever the circumstances if Jesus was 1290 00:30:37,629 --> 00:30:37,639 whatever the circumstances if Jesus was 1291 00:30:37,639 --> 00:30:40,480 whatever the circumstances if Jesus was alive then he and his disciples faced a 1292 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:40,490 alive then he and his disciples faced a 1293 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:44,499 alive then he and his disciples faced a serious problem if Jesus was placed in 1294 00:30:44,499 --> 00:30:44,509 serious problem if Jesus was placed in 1295 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:48,580 serious problem if Jesus was placed in the tomb and somehow was revived he 1296 00:30:48,580 --> 00:30:48,590 the tomb and somehow was revived he 1297 00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:50,379 the tomb and somehow was revived he himself would certainly think that was 1298 00:30:50,379 --> 00:30:50,389 himself would certainly think that was 1299 00:30:50,389 --> 00:30:52,989 himself would certainly think that was an act of the grace of God I came right 1300 00:30:52,989 --> 00:30:52,999 an act of the grace of God I came right 1301 00:30:52,999 --> 00:30:54,369 an act of the grace of God I came right to the bars of death and was brought 1302 00:30:54,369 --> 00:30:54,379 to the bars of death and was brought 1303 00:30:54,379 --> 00:30:56,879 to the bars of death and was brought back but now there's a practical problem 1304 00:30:56,879 --> 00:30:56,889 back but now there's a practical problem 1305 00:30:56,889 --> 00:30:59,580 back but now there's a practical problem it's a political problem actually 1306 00:30:59,580 --> 00:30:59,590 it's a political problem actually 1307 00:30:59,590 --> 00:31:03,129 it's a political problem actually Romans basically do one thing two 1308 00:31:03,129 --> 00:31:03,139 Romans basically do one thing two 1309 00:31:03,139 --> 00:31:08,500 Romans basically do one thing two messiahs they crucify them 1310 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:08,510 1311 00:31:08,510 --> 00:31:12,230 if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion 1312 00:31:12,230 --> 00:31:12,240 if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion 1313 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,630 if Jesus did indeed survive crucifixion either through resurrection as the Bible 1314 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:14,640 either through resurrection as the Bible 1315 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,970 either through resurrection as the Bible tells us or more controversially through 1316 00:31:16,970 --> 00:31:16,980 tells us or more controversially through 1317 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:19,670 tells us or more controversially through resuscitation then he is once more a 1318 00:31:19,670 --> 00:31:19,680 resuscitation then he is once more a 1319 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:24,230 resuscitation then he is once more a condemned man the Bible is said to solve 1320 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:24,240 condemned man the Bible is said to solve 1321 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,510 condemned man the Bible is said to solve this problem with a miracle called the 1322 00:31:26,510 --> 00:31:26,520 this problem with a miracle called the 1323 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,840 this problem with a miracle called the Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into 1324 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:29,850 Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into 1325 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:33,400 Ascension Jesus is taken bodily into heaven 1326 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:33,410 1327 00:31:33,410 --> 00:31:35,650 but the interesting fact is that the 1328 00:31:35,650 --> 00:31:35,660 but the interesting fact is that the 1329 00:31:35,660 --> 00:31:37,840 but the interesting fact is that the Ascension does not actually appear in 1330 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:37,850 Ascension does not actually appear in 1331 00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:41,910 Ascension does not actually appear in the original form of the Gospels the 1332 00:31:41,910 --> 00:31:41,920 the original form of the Gospels the 1333 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,620 the original form of the Gospels the Ascension references in mark are among 1334 00:31:44,620 --> 00:31:44,630 Ascension references in mark are among 1335 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:46,450 Ascension references in mark are among the verses which as we've seen were 1336 00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:46,460 the verses which as we've seen were 1337 00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:49,690 the verses which as we've seen were added two hundred years later there is 1338 00:31:49,690 --> 00:31:49,700 added two hundred years later there is 1339 00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:52,210 added two hundred years later there is one line in Luke which reads and was 1340 00:31:52,210 --> 00:31:52,220 one line in Luke which reads and was 1341 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:54,820 one line in Luke which reads and was carried up into heaven but again this 1342 00:31:54,820 --> 00:31:54,830 carried up into heaven but again this 1343 00:31:54,830 --> 00:31:57,430 carried up into heaven but again this does not appear in all Bibles it was in 1344 00:31:57,430 --> 00:31:57,440 does not appear in all Bibles it was in 1345 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,620 does not appear in all Bibles it was in fact inserted simply because the 1346 00:31:59,620 --> 00:31:59,630 fact inserted simply because the 1347 00:31:59,630 --> 00:32:01,480 fact inserted simply because the Ascension is referred to in a later book 1348 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:01,490 Ascension is referred to in a later book 1349 00:32:01,490 --> 00:32:02,980 Ascension is referred to in a later book of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles 1350 00:32:02,980 --> 00:32:02,990 of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles 1351 00:32:02,990 --> 00:32:05,590 of the Bible the Acts of the Apostles and has always been assumed that Luke 1352 00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:05,600 and has always been assumed that Luke 1353 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,240 and has always been assumed that Luke was the author of the Acts 1354 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:07,250 was the author of the Acts 1355 00:32:07,250 --> 00:32:09,430 was the author of the Acts there's no Ascension in Matthew and 1356 00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:09,440 there's no Ascension in Matthew and 1357 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,350 there's no Ascension in Matthew and John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic 1358 00:32:11,350 --> 00:32:11,360 John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic 1359 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,690 John's Gospel ends with the enigmatic words and there are also many other 1360 00:32:13,690 --> 00:32:13,700 words and there are also many other 1361 00:32:13,700 --> 00:32:16,330 words and there are also many other things which Jesus did the which if they 1362 00:32:16,330 --> 00:32:16,340 things which Jesus did the which if they 1363 00:32:16,340 --> 00:32:18,310 things which Jesus did the which if they should be written every one I suppose 1364 00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:18,320 should be written every one I suppose 1365 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,050 should be written every one I suppose that even the world itself could not 1366 00:32:20,050 --> 00:32:20,060 that even the world itself could not 1367 00:32:20,060 --> 00:32:22,770 that even the world itself could not contain the books that would be written 1368 00:32:22,770 --> 00:32:22,780 contain the books that would be written 1369 00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:28,060 contain the books that would be written so what was it that Jesus did one of the 1370 00:32:28,060 --> 00:32:28,070 so what was it that Jesus did one of the 1371 00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:30,010 so what was it that Jesus did one of the stories that emerges from this question 1372 00:32:30,010 --> 00:32:30,020 stories that emerges from this question 1373 00:32:30,020 --> 00:32:31,900 stories that emerges from this question depends upon the idea that Jesus 1374 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:31,910 depends upon the idea that Jesus 1375 00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:34,060 depends upon the idea that Jesus relationship with Mary Magdalene was a 1376 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:34,070 relationship with Mary Magdalene was a 1377 00:32:34,070 --> 00:32:37,550 relationship with Mary Magdalene was a very special one 1378 00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:37,560 1379 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560 if you read John's Gospel the first 1380 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:39,570 if you read John's Gospel the first 1381 00:32:39,570 --> 00:32:41,780 if you read John's Gospel the first person who saw the risen Christ ie the 1382 00:32:41,780 --> 00:32:41,790 person who saw the risen Christ ie the 1383 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:45,170 person who saw the risen Christ ie the first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I 1384 00:32:45,170 --> 00:32:45,180 first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I 1385 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,940 first Christian was Mary Magdalene so I think when the church tries to sideline 1386 00:32:46,940 --> 00:32:46,950 think when the church tries to sideline 1387 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:48,680 think when the church tries to sideline the idea that Jesus had relationships 1388 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:48,690 the idea that Jesus had relationships 1389 00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:49,700 the idea that Jesus had relationships with women that he had close 1390 00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:49,710 with women that he had close 1391 00:32:49,710 --> 00:32:51,200 with women that he had close relationships women it's laughable 1392 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:51,210 relationships women it's laughable 1393 00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:52,640 relationships women it's laughable really I mean it's part of this problem 1394 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:52,650 really I mean it's part of this problem 1395 00:32:52,650 --> 00:32:54,860 really I mean it's part of this problem that they always say that that the thing 1396 00:32:54,860 --> 00:32:54,870 that they always say that that the thing 1397 00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:56,270 that they always say that that the thing that non-believers find hardest about 1398 00:32:56,270 --> 00:32:56,280 that non-believers find hardest about 1399 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,190 that non-believers find hardest about Jesus was his divinity and the thing 1400 00:32:58,190 --> 00:32:58,200 Jesus was his divinity and the thing 1401 00:32:58,200 --> 00:32:59,600 Jesus was his divinity and the thing that Christians always find hardest 1402 00:32:59,600 --> 00:32:59,610 that Christians always find hardest 1403 00:32:59,610 --> 00:33:01,370 that Christians always find hardest about Jesus was his humanity I mean he 1404 00:33:01,370 --> 00:33:01,380 about Jesus was his humanity I mean he 1405 00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:03,740 about Jesus was his humanity I mean he was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy 1406 00:33:03,740 --> 00:33:03,750 was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy 1407 00:33:03,750 --> 00:33:05,420 was it he was a man I'm perfectly happy with the concept that Jesus had a 1408 00:33:05,420 --> 00:33:05,430 with the concept that Jesus had a 1409 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:06,980 with the concept that Jesus had a relationship with Mary Magdalene and 1410 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:06,990 relationship with Mary Magdalene and 1411 00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:09,830 relationship with Mary Magdalene and that it was long and important and you 1412 00:33:09,830 --> 00:33:09,840 that it was long and important and you 1413 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,360 that it was long and important and you know was one of the dominant things in 1414 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:11,370 know was one of the dominant things in 1415 00:33:11,370 --> 00:33:15,470 know was one of the dominant things in his life he was human the idea of course 1416 00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:15,480 his life he was human the idea of course 1417 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,510 his life he was human the idea of course that Jesus may have had a very special 1418 00:33:17,510 --> 00:33:17,520 that Jesus may have had a very special 1419 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,730 that Jesus may have had a very special relationship with Mary may be offensive 1420 00:33:19,730 --> 00:33:19,740 relationship with Mary may be offensive 1421 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:21,830 relationship with Mary may be offensive to many Christians but some historians 1422 00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:21,840 to many Christians but some historians 1423 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,440 to many Christians but some historians have gone even further they've suggested 1424 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:24,450 have gone even further they've suggested 1425 00:33:24,450 --> 00:33:26,540 have gone even further they've suggested that Jesus and Mary might have married 1426 00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:26,550 that Jesus and Mary might have married 1427 00:33:26,550 --> 00:33:29,050 that Jesus and Mary might have married that they might even have had children 1428 00:33:29,050 --> 00:33:29,060 that they might even have had children 1429 00:33:29,060 --> 00:33:31,490 that they might even have had children so if we're trying to find out where in 1430 00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:31,500 so if we're trying to find out where in 1431 00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,260 so if we're trying to find out where in his flight from the Romans Jesus could 1432 00:33:33,260 --> 00:33:33,270 his flight from the Romans Jesus could 1433 00:33:33,270 --> 00:33:35,270 his flight from the Romans Jesus could have gone perhaps we should start by 1434 00:33:35,270 --> 00:33:35,280 have gone perhaps we should start by 1435 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:43,430 have gone perhaps we should start by finding out where Mary went 1436 00:33:43,430 --> 00:33:43,440 1437 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,500 there is a tradition that some years 1438 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:45,510 there is a tradition that some years 1439 00:33:45,510 --> 00:33:47,780 there is a tradition that some years after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene 1440 00:33:47,780 --> 00:33:47,790 after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene 1441 00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:50,060 after the crucifixion Mary Magdalene came to the Camargue region of the South 1442 00:33:50,060 --> 00:33:50,070 came to the Camargue region of the South 1443 00:33:50,070 --> 00:33:50,780 came to the Camargue region of the South of France 1444 00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:50,790 of France 1445 00:33:50,790 --> 00:33:54,380 of France here she lived and died and the Basilica 1446 00:33:54,380 --> 00:33:54,390 here she lived and died and the Basilica 1447 00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:56,720 here she lived and died and the Basilica Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her 1448 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:56,730 Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her 1449 00:33:56,730 --> 00:34:00,410 Santa Mary Madeline is a shrine to her memory this was the center of what 1450 00:34:00,410 --> 00:34:00,420 memory this was the center of what 1451 00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:02,150 memory this was the center of what became known as the cult of the 1452 00:34:02,150 --> 00:34:02,160 became known as the cult of the 1453 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,380 became known as the cult of the Magdalene 1454 00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:04,390 Magdalene 1455 00:34:04,390 --> 00:34:06,390 Magdalene we counted the mag Doon was very 1456 00:34:06,390 --> 00:34:06,400 we counted the mag Doon was very 1457 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,340 we counted the mag Doon was very powerful in France up until the Middle 1458 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:08,350 powerful in France up until the Middle 1459 00:34:08,350 --> 00:34:12,570 powerful in France up until the Middle Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a 1460 00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:12,580 Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a 1461 00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:15,390 Ages the faithful wanted to believe in a mother figure and the church were very 1462 00:34:15,390 --> 00:34:15,400 mother figure and the church were very 1463 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,840 mother figure and the church were very anxious that they should not believe in 1464 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:18,850 anxious that they should not believe in 1465 00:34:18,850 --> 00:34:20,940 anxious that they should not believe in Mary Magdalene as having been a mother 1466 00:34:20,940 --> 00:34:20,950 Mary Magdalene as having been a mother 1467 00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:23,130 Mary Magdalene as having been a mother figure for obvious reasons which were 1468 00:34:23,130 --> 00:34:23,140 figure for obvious reasons which were 1469 00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:25,350 figure for obvious reasons which were that she might have been the spouse of 1470 00:34:25,350 --> 00:34:25,360 that she might have been the spouse of 1471 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,600 that she might have been the spouse of Christ that she might have had his child 1472 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:27,610 Christ that she might have had his child 1473 00:34:27,610 --> 00:34:30,780 Christ that she might have had his child that she might have produced her 1474 00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:30,790 that she might have produced her 1475 00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:37,020 that she might have produced her bloodline the local legend describes how 1476 00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:37,030 bloodline the local legend describes how 1477 00:34:37,030 --> 00:34:38,820 bloodline the local legend describes how Mary Magdalene came here with her 1478 00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:38,830 Mary Magdalene came here with her 1479 00:34:38,830 --> 00:34:40,800 Mary Magdalene came here with her brother Lazarus and her sister Martha 1480 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:40,810 brother Lazarus and her sister Martha 1481 00:34:40,810 --> 00:34:45,450 brother Lazarus and her sister Martha and a few companions 1482 00:34:45,450 --> 00:34:45,460 1483 00:34:45,460 --> 00:34:48,040 if the relationship between Jesus and 1484 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:48,050 if the relationship between Jesus and 1485 00:34:48,050 --> 00:34:50,080 if the relationship between Jesus and Mary was as close as some sources 1486 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,090 Mary was as close as some sources 1487 00:34:50,090 --> 00:34:52,500 Mary was as close as some sources suggest perhaps one of those companions 1488 00:34:52,500 --> 00:34:52,510 suggest perhaps one of those companions 1489 00:34:52,510 --> 00:34:55,180 suggest perhaps one of those companions traveling incognito for fear of arrest 1490 00:34:55,180 --> 00:34:55,190 traveling incognito for fear of arrest 1491 00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:59,320 traveling incognito for fear of arrest by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus 1492 00:34:59,320 --> 00:34:59,330 by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus 1493 00:34:59,330 --> 00:35:02,740 by the Romans was Jesus himself Jesus could have taken ship at Caesarea or one 1494 00:35:02,740 --> 00:35:02,750 could have taken ship at Caesarea or one 1495 00:35:02,750 --> 00:35:04,540 could have taken ship at Caesarea or one of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast 1496 00:35:04,540 --> 00:35:04,550 of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast 1497 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:08,580 of the smaller ports at the Syrian coast and he could have left for another life 1498 00:35:08,580 --> 00:35:08,590 and he could have left for another life 1499 00:35:08,590 --> 00:35:11,770 and he could have left for another life and he could well have arrived as a lot 1500 00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:11,780 and he could well have arrived as a lot 1501 00:35:11,780 --> 00:35:14,220 and he could well have arrived as a lot of people believed in this part of 1502 00:35:14,220 --> 00:35:14,230 of people believed in this part of 1503 00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:17,320 of people believed in this part of France and began a new life he could 1504 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:17,330 France and began a new life he could 1505 00:35:17,330 --> 00:35:19,599 France and began a new life he could even have bought his family with them so 1506 00:35:19,599 --> 00:35:19,609 even have bought his family with them so 1507 00:35:19,609 --> 00:35:22,030 even have bought his family with them so these stories could have a historical 1508 00:35:22,030 --> 00:35:22,040 these stories could have a historical 1509 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,970 these stories could have a historical foundation 1510 00:35:24,970 --> 00:35:24,980 1511 00:35:24,980 --> 00:35:27,520 after her death Mary Magdalene's relics 1512 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:27,530 after her death Mary Magdalene's relics 1513 00:35:27,530 --> 00:35:29,290 after her death Mary Magdalene's relics were placed in a sarcophagus and then 1514 00:35:29,290 --> 00:35:29,300 were placed in a sarcophagus and then 1515 00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:32,260 were placed in a sarcophagus and then hidden it was not until 12 79 that they 1516 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:32,270 hidden it was not until 12 79 that they 1517 00:35:32,270 --> 00:35:34,660 hidden it was not until 12 79 that they were rediscovered and this basilica was 1518 00:35:34,660 --> 00:35:34,670 were rediscovered and this basilica was 1519 00:35:34,670 --> 00:35:37,359 were rediscovered and this basilica was built for their safekeeping sealed 1520 00:35:37,359 --> 00:35:37,369 built for their safekeeping sealed 1521 00:35:37,369 --> 00:35:39,339 built for their safekeeping sealed within the crypt in the center of the 1522 00:35:39,339 --> 00:35:39,349 within the crypt in the center of the 1523 00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:41,430 within the crypt in the center of the church is what is claimed to be the 1524 00:35:41,430 --> 00:35:41,440 church is what is claimed to be the 1525 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:48,890 church is what is claimed to be the skull of Mary Magdalene 1526 00:35:48,890 --> 00:35:48,900 1527 00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,710 the idea that Jesus went to the south of 1528 00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:51,720 the idea that Jesus went to the south of 1529 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,489 the idea that Jesus went to the south of France may seem far-fetched after all if 1530 00:35:55,489 --> 00:35:55,499 France may seem far-fetched after all if 1531 00:35:55,499 --> 00:35:57,890 France may seem far-fetched after all if any of the stories were true it's hard 1532 00:35:57,890 --> 00:35:57,900 any of the stories were true it's hard 1533 00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,749 any of the stories were true it's hard to believe that the original writers of 1534 00:35:59,749 --> 00:35:59,759 to believe that the original writers of 1535 00:35:59,759 --> 00:36:01,309 to believe that the original writers of the Gospels could have completely 1536 00:36:01,309 --> 00:36:01,319 the Gospels could have completely 1537 00:36:01,319 --> 00:36:06,559 the Gospels could have completely eradicated all of the evidence if the 1538 00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:06,569 eradicated all of the evidence if the 1539 00:36:06,569 --> 00:36:08,480 eradicated all of the evidence if the faithful knew that Jesus was in fact 1540 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:08,490 faithful knew that Jesus was in fact 1541 00:36:08,490 --> 00:36:10,880 faithful knew that Jesus was in fact still alive surely they would have 1542 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:10,890 still alive surely they would have 1543 00:36:10,890 --> 00:36:13,519 still alive surely they would have shared that knowledge and surely they 1544 00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:13,529 shared that knowledge and surely they 1545 00:36:13,529 --> 00:36:15,559 shared that knowledge and surely they must have hoped that at some time in the 1546 00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:15,569 must have hoped that at some time in the 1547 00:36:15,569 --> 00:36:17,660 must have hoped that at some time in the future it would have been safe for Jesus 1548 00:36:17,660 --> 00:36:17,670 future it would have been safe for Jesus 1549 00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:20,120 future it would have been safe for Jesus to return and evidence for that hoped 1550 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,130 to return and evidence for that hoped 1551 00:36:20,130 --> 00:36:26,030 to return and evidence for that hoped should be somewhere in the original text 1552 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:26,040 1553 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,460 the disciples were expecting Jesus to 1554 00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:28,470 the disciples were expecting Jesus to 1555 00:36:28,470 --> 00:36:30,440 the disciples were expecting Jesus to return they were expecting what has 1556 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,450 return they were expecting what has 1557 00:36:30,450 --> 00:36:32,690 return they were expecting what has become known as the second coming and 1558 00:36:32,690 --> 00:36:32,700 become known as the second coming and 1559 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,180 become known as the second coming and this was not necessarily going to be a 1560 00:36:35,180 --> 00:36:35,190 this was not necessarily going to be a 1561 00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:39,109 this was not necessarily going to be a miraculous return Jesus definitely went 1562 00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:39,119 miraculous return Jesus definitely went 1563 00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:41,480 miraculous return Jesus definitely went away whatever view of resurrection you 1564 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:41,490 away whatever view of resurrection you 1565 00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:45,050 away whatever view of resurrection you take resuscitation or divine miracle in 1566 00:36:45,050 --> 00:36:45,060 take resuscitation or divine miracle in 1567 00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:46,609 take resuscitation or divine miracle in a traditional sense of belief in 1568 00:36:46,609 --> 00:36:46,619 a traditional sense of belief in 1569 00:36:46,619 --> 00:36:48,859 a traditional sense of belief in resurrection he goes away he says I'm 1570 00:36:48,859 --> 00:36:48,869 resurrection he goes away he says I'm 1571 00:36:48,869 --> 00:36:52,400 resurrection he goes away he says I'm going away the disciples say can we come 1572 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:52,410 going away the disciples say can we come 1573 00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:54,920 going away the disciples say can we come he says no he says I'm going to come 1574 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:54,930 he says no he says I'm going to come 1575 00:36:54,930 --> 00:36:57,500 he says no he says I'm going to come again now what's interesting about that 1576 00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:57,510 again now what's interesting about that 1577 00:36:57,510 --> 00:37:00,230 again now what's interesting about that is normally if someone says they're 1578 00:37:00,230 --> 00:37:00,240 is normally if someone says they're 1579 00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,859 is normally if someone says they're going away they're going to come back 1580 00:37:02,859 --> 00:37:02,869 going away they're going to come back 1581 00:37:02,869 --> 00:37:06,080 going away they're going to come back any sort of looking at your watch or 1582 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,090 any sort of looking at your watch or 1583 00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:07,970 any sort of looking at your watch or your calendar wondering okay say they 1584 00:37:07,970 --> 00:37:07,980 your calendar wondering okay say they 1585 00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:10,010 your calendar wondering okay say they went away is going to come back you'd 1586 00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:10,020 went away is going to come back you'd 1587 00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:15,470 went away is going to come back you'd take it in that everyday sense the 1588 00:37:15,470 --> 00:37:15,480 take it in that everyday sense the 1589 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,510 take it in that everyday sense the concept of the heavenly second coming of 1590 00:37:17,510 --> 00:37:17,520 concept of the heavenly second coming of 1591 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:19,760 concept of the heavenly second coming of Jesus returning on the day of judgment 1592 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:19,770 Jesus returning on the day of judgment 1593 00:37:19,770 --> 00:37:21,980 Jesus returning on the day of judgment was only created after it was clear that 1594 00:37:21,980 --> 00:37:21,990 was only created after it was clear that 1595 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:24,560 was only created after it was clear that Jesus had not returned in that everyday 1596 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,570 Jesus had not returned in that everyday 1597 00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:26,270 Jesus had not returned in that everyday sense 1598 00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:26,280 sense 1599 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,550 sense but if Jesus did decide to leave 1600 00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:28,560 but if Jesus did decide to leave 1601 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,310 but if Jesus did decide to leave Palestine France still doesn't seem like 1602 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:31,320 Palestine France still doesn't seem like 1603 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,310 Palestine France still doesn't seem like a likely destination it was after all a 1604 00:37:34,310 --> 00:37:34,320 a likely destination it was after all a 1605 00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,430 a likely destination it was after all a Roman colony some claim that if Jesus 1606 00:37:37,430 --> 00:37:37,440 Roman colony some claim that if Jesus 1607 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,530 Roman colony some claim that if Jesus did survive the crucifixion his first 1608 00:37:39,530 --> 00:37:39,540 did survive the crucifixion his first 1609 00:37:39,540 --> 00:37:41,780 did survive the crucifixion his first priority would be to escape from the 1610 00:37:41,780 --> 00:37:41,790 priority would be to escape from the 1611 00:37:41,790 --> 00:37:44,330 priority would be to escape from the clutches of the Romans Jesus I think 1612 00:37:44,330 --> 00:37:44,340 clutches of the Romans Jesus I think 1613 00:37:44,340 --> 00:37:47,690 clutches of the Romans Jesus I think would have to leave the territory and we 1614 00:37:47,690 --> 00:37:47,700 would have to leave the territory and we 1615 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,400 would have to leave the territory and we have to ask the question where would he 1616 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:49,410 have to ask the question where would he 1617 00:37:49,410 --> 00:37:49,820 have to ask the question where would he go 1618 00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:49,830 go 1619 00:37:49,830 --> 00:37:54,950 go and just look at a map Palestine is on 1620 00:37:54,950 --> 00:37:54,960 and just look at a map Palestine is on 1621 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,890 and just look at a map Palestine is on the far eastern border of the Roman 1622 00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:57,900 the far eastern border of the Roman 1623 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,600 the far eastern border of the Roman Empire Figo West you're going right into 1624 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:02,610 Empire Figo West you're going right into 1625 00:38:02,610 --> 00:38:05,240 Empire Figo West you're going right into the heart of Roman territory where we 1626 00:38:05,240 --> 00:38:05,250 the heart of Roman territory where we 1627 00:38:05,250 --> 00:38:07,400 the heart of Roman territory where we have our 15 legions stationed around the 1628 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,410 have our 15 legions stationed around the 1629 00:38:07,410 --> 00:38:10,400 have our 15 legions stationed around the world if you go east you're crossing 1630 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:10,410 world if you go east you're crossing 1631 00:38:10,410 --> 00:38:13,310 world if you go east you're crossing over into parkia and you're going 1632 00:38:13,310 --> 00:38:13,320 over into parkia and you're going 1633 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,520 over into parkia and you're going towards Persia eventually in India and 1634 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:16,530 towards Persia eventually in India and 1635 00:38:16,530 --> 00:38:22,480 towards Persia eventually in India and Afghanistan that direction 1636 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:22,490 1637 00:38:22,490 --> 00:38:25,940 but apart from escaping Rio rest why 1638 00:38:25,940 --> 00:38:25,950 but apart from escaping Rio rest why 1639 00:38:25,950 --> 00:38:28,880 but apart from escaping Rio rest why would Jesus travel east and how would he 1640 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:28,890 would Jesus travel east and how would he 1641 00:38:28,890 --> 00:38:38,840 would Jesus travel east and how would he get there if Jesus did want to travel 1642 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:38,850 get there if Jesus did want to travel 1643 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:41,300 get there if Jesus did want to travel east away from the Roman Empire the 1644 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:41,310 east away from the Roman Empire the 1645 00:38:41,310 --> 00:38:43,250 east away from the Roman Empire the journey from Israel was surprisingly 1646 00:38:43,250 --> 00:38:43,260 journey from Israel was surprisingly 1647 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:46,190 journey from Israel was surprisingly easy by land or by sea on the silk route 1648 00:38:46,190 --> 00:38:46,200 easy by land or by sea on the silk route 1649 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,860 easy by land or by sea on the silk route or the spice route it's an accepted fact 1650 00:38:51,860 --> 00:38:51,870 or the spice route it's an accepted fact 1651 00:38:51,870 --> 00:38:53,780 or the spice route it's an accepted fact for instance that the disciple Thomas 1652 00:38:53,780 --> 00:38:53,790 for instance that the disciple Thomas 1653 00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:56,000 for instance that the disciple Thomas traveled to India and founded a 1654 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,010 traveled to India and founded a 1655 00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:59,840 traveled to India and founded a Christian Church there 1656 00:38:59,840 --> 00:38:59,850 1657 00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:03,510 the great tradition of the Indian church 1658 00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:03,520 the great tradition of the Indian church 1659 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,640 the great tradition of the Indian church is that it was founded by Thomas the 1660 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:05,650 is that it was founded by Thomas the 1661 00:39:05,650 --> 00:39:09,990 is that it was founded by Thomas the Apostle to travel to India would be no 1662 00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:10,000 Apostle to travel to India would be no 1663 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,850 Apostle to travel to India would be no problem he just had to go down to Gaza a 1664 00:39:11,850 --> 00:39:11,860 problem he just had to go down to Gaza a 1665 00:39:11,860 --> 00:39:13,980 problem he just had to go down to Gaza a link up with one of the Spice trains 1666 00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:13,990 link up with one of the Spice trains 1667 00:39:13,990 --> 00:39:17,040 link up with one of the Spice trains returning and then from Yemen get a boat 1668 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,050 returning and then from Yemen get a boat 1669 00:39:17,050 --> 00:39:18,840 returning and then from Yemen get a boat to India it would have been a very 1670 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:18,850 to India it would have been a very 1671 00:39:18,850 --> 00:39:21,360 to India it would have been a very simple easy procedure that was done 1672 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:21,370 simple easy procedure that was done 1673 00:39:21,370 --> 00:39:25,620 simple easy procedure that was done regularly and there's another reason why 1674 00:39:25,620 --> 00:39:25,630 regularly and there's another reason why 1675 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:29,240 regularly and there's another reason why Jesus might have been tempted to go east 1676 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:29,250 Jesus might have been tempted to go east 1677 00:39:29,250 --> 00:39:31,890 Jesus might have been tempted to go east but to understand that we have to go 1678 00:39:31,890 --> 00:39:31,900 but to understand that we have to go 1679 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:35,680 but to understand that we have to go back to the year of his birth 1680 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:35,690 1681 00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:38,170 we all recognize the story in Matthew's 1682 00:39:38,170 --> 00:39:38,180 we all recognize the story in Matthew's 1683 00:39:38,180 --> 00:39:40,240 we all recognize the story in Matthew's Gospel of the three wise men from the 1684 00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:40,250 Gospel of the three wise men from the 1685 00:39:40,250 --> 00:39:42,730 Gospel of the three wise men from the east who followed a star and presented 1686 00:39:42,730 --> 00:39:42,740 east who followed a star and presented 1687 00:39:42,740 --> 00:39:44,559 east who followed a star and presented themselves and their gifts to the baby 1688 00:39:44,559 --> 00:39:44,569 themselves and their gifts to the baby 1689 00:39:44,569 --> 00:39:47,559 themselves and their gifts to the baby Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize 1690 00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:47,569 Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize 1691 00:39:47,569 --> 00:39:49,510 Jesus what we perhaps don't recognize immediately is the similarity between 1692 00:39:49,510 --> 00:39:49,520 immediately is the similarity between 1693 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,640 immediately is the similarity between this story and the traditions of a 1694 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:51,650 this story and the traditions of a 1695 00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:53,470 this story and the traditions of a religion that is five hundred years 1696 00:39:53,470 --> 00:39:53,480 religion that is five hundred years 1697 00:39:53,480 --> 00:40:03,910 religion that is five hundred years older than Christianity Buddhism 1698 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:03,920 1699 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,819 when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama 1700 00:40:06,819 --> 00:40:06,829 when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama 1701 00:40:06,829 --> 00:40:10,059 when a great Buddhist holy man or Lama dies wise men consult the Stars and 1702 00:40:10,059 --> 00:40:10,069 dies wise men consult the Stars and 1703 00:40:10,069 --> 00:40:12,640 dies wise men consult the Stars and other omens and set off often on 1704 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:12,650 other omens and set off often on 1705 00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:14,950 other omens and set off often on extraordinarily long journeys to find 1706 00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:14,960 extraordinarily long journeys to find 1707 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,319 extraordinarily long journeys to find the infant who is the reincarnation of 1708 00:40:17,319 --> 00:40:17,329 the infant who is the reincarnation of 1709 00:40:17,329 --> 00:40:18,390 the infant who is the reincarnation of the llama 1710 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:18,400 the llama 1711 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,220 the llama when the child is old enough he's taken 1712 00:40:21,220 --> 00:40:21,230 when the child is old enough he's taken 1713 00:40:21,230 --> 00:40:23,349 when the child is old enough he's taken away from his parents and educated in 1714 00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:23,359 away from his parents and educated in 1715 00:40:23,359 --> 00:40:26,829 away from his parents and educated in the Buddhist faith could this be the 1716 00:40:26,829 --> 00:40:26,839 the Buddhist faith could this be the 1717 00:40:26,839 --> 00:40:28,990 the Buddhist faith could this be the origin of the story of the three wise 1718 00:40:28,990 --> 00:40:29,000 origin of the story of the three wise 1719 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,170 origin of the story of the three wise men could Jesus have been taken to India 1720 00:40:32,170 --> 00:40:32,180 men could Jesus have been taken to India 1721 00:40:32,180 --> 00:40:38,349 men could Jesus have been taken to India as a child and taught as a Buddhist the 1722 00:40:38,349 --> 00:40:38,359 as a child and taught as a Buddhist the 1723 00:40:38,359 --> 00:40:39,160 as a child and taught as a Buddhist the Russian writer 1724 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:39,170 Russian writer 1725 00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:41,380 Russian writer Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in 1726 00:40:41,380 --> 00:40:41,390 Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in 1727 00:40:41,390 --> 00:40:43,599 Nicola note ovitch traveling in India in the 19th century discovered an ancient 1728 00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:43,609 the 19th century discovered an ancient 1729 00:40:43,609 --> 00:40:45,970 the 19th century discovered an ancient manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in 1730 00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:45,980 manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in 1731 00:40:45,980 --> 00:40:50,349 manuscript in a Buddhist monastery in Tibet in his book the unknown life of 1732 00:40:50,349 --> 00:40:50,359 Tibet in his book the unknown life of 1733 00:40:50,359 --> 00:40:52,990 Tibet in his book the unknown life of Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this 1734 00:40:52,990 --> 00:40:53,000 Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this 1735 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,450 Jesus Christ not ovitch translated this manuscript and it tells of a divine 1736 00:40:55,450 --> 00:40:55,460 manuscript and it tells of a divine 1737 00:40:55,460 --> 00:40:58,120 manuscript and it tells of a divine child called ISA born in the first 1738 00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,130 child called ISA born in the first 1739 00:40:58,130 --> 00:41:02,349 child called ISA born in the first century to a poor family in Israel ISA 1740 00:41:02,349 --> 00:41:02,359 century to a poor family in Israel ISA 1741 00:41:02,359 --> 00:41:04,539 century to a poor family in Israel ISA came to India at the age of fourteen 1742 00:41:04,539 --> 00:41:04,549 came to India at the age of fourteen 1743 00:41:04,549 --> 00:41:06,789 came to India at the age of fourteen where he learned the laws of Buddhism 1744 00:41:06,789 --> 00:41:06,799 where he learned the laws of Buddhism 1745 00:41:06,799 --> 00:41:09,190 where he learned the laws of Buddhism before returning to Israel at the age of 1746 00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:09,200 before returning to Israel at the age of 1747 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,000 before returning to Israel at the age of 29 this idea would certainly explain the 1748 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:13,010 29 this idea would certainly explain the 1749 00:41:13,010 --> 00:41:15,010 29 this idea would certainly explain the otherwise odd fact that from the age of 1750 00:41:15,010 --> 00:41:15,020 otherwise odd fact that from the age of 1751 00:41:15,020 --> 00:41:17,920 otherwise odd fact that from the age of 14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of 1752 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:17,930 14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of 1753 00:41:17,930 --> 00:41:21,700 14 to 29 there's absolutely no record of Jesus existence in Palestine certainly 1754 00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:21,710 Jesus existence in Palestine certainly 1755 00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:23,559 Jesus existence in Palestine certainly Jesus later teaching and miracles have 1756 00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:23,569 Jesus later teaching and miracles have 1757 00:41:23,569 --> 00:41:25,599 Jesus later teaching and miracles have uncanny parallels with the teaching and 1758 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:25,609 uncanny parallels with the teaching and 1759 00:41:25,609 --> 00:41:27,760 uncanny parallels with the teaching and miracles of the Buddha loving your 1760 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:27,770 miracles of the Buddha loving your 1761 00:41:27,770 --> 00:41:29,680 miracles of the Buddha loving your enemies and the idea that the meek will 1762 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:29,690 enemies and the idea that the meek will 1763 00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:31,720 enemies and the idea that the meek will inherit the earth have absolutely no 1764 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:31,730 inherit the earth have absolutely no 1765 00:41:31,730 --> 00:41:33,609 inherit the earth have absolutely no tradition in the Jewish religion but are 1766 00:41:33,609 --> 00:41:33,619 tradition in the Jewish religion but are 1767 00:41:33,619 --> 00:41:36,240 tradition in the Jewish religion but are entirely consistent with Buddhism and 1768 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:36,250 entirely consistent with Buddhism and 1769 00:41:36,250 --> 00:41:38,770 entirely consistent with Buddhism and for the Buddha was known to walk on 1770 00:41:38,770 --> 00:41:38,780 for the Buddha was known to walk on 1771 00:41:38,780 --> 00:41:41,260 for the Buddha was known to walk on water and miraculously to feed many 1772 00:41:41,260 --> 00:41:41,270 water and miraculously to feed many 1773 00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:42,880 water and miraculously to feed many hundreds of his disciples with only a 1774 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:42,890 hundreds of his disciples with only a 1775 00:41:42,890 --> 00:41:57,599 hundreds of his disciples with only a few scraps of food 1776 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:57,609 1777 00:41:57,609 --> 00:42:00,970 but if Jesus traveled or returned to the 1778 00:42:00,970 --> 00:42:00,980 but if Jesus traveled or returned to the 1779 00:42:00,980 --> 00:42:03,310 but if Jesus traveled or returned to the east surely there would be legend like 1780 00:42:03,310 --> 00:42:03,320 east surely there would be legend like 1781 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,349 east surely there would be legend like those in the South of France to support 1782 00:42:05,349 --> 00:42:05,359 those in the South of France to support 1783 00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:07,840 those in the South of France to support the idea and of course there are such 1784 00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:07,850 the idea and of course there are such 1785 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:14,260 the idea and of course there are such traditions the people here in Kashmir 1786 00:42:14,260 --> 00:42:14,270 traditions the people here in Kashmir 1787 00:42:14,270 --> 00:42:16,930 traditions the people here in Kashmir called their tribe Ben G Israel and 1788 00:42:16,930 --> 00:42:16,940 called their tribe Ben G Israel and 1789 00:42:16,940 --> 00:42:19,240 called their tribe Ben G Israel and claim to be descendants of the Lost 1790 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:19,250 claim to be descendants of the Lost 1791 00:42:19,250 --> 00:42:22,880 claim to be descendants of the Lost Tribes 1792 00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:22,890 1793 00:42:22,890 --> 00:42:25,400 and here there are stories that the 1794 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:25,410 and here there are stories that the 1795 00:42:25,410 --> 00:42:27,559 and here there are stories that the first century preacher Issa known 1796 00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:27,569 first century preacher Issa known 1797 00:42:27,569 --> 00:42:29,870 first century preacher Issa known locally as Yosef meaning leader of the 1798 00:42:29,870 --> 00:42:29,880 locally as Yosef meaning leader of the 1799 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:37,849 locally as Yosef meaning leader of the healed returned to Kashmir in his 30s 1800 00:42:37,849 --> 00:42:37,859 1801 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:40,910 use a saps ministry here can easily be 1802 00:42:40,910 --> 00:42:40,920 use a saps ministry here can easily be 1803 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,219 use a saps ministry here can easily be seen as a continuation of the Jesus 1804 00:42:43,219 --> 00:42:43,229 seen as a continuation of the Jesus 1805 00:42:43,229 --> 00:42:49,370 seen as a continuation of the Jesus ministry 1806 00:42:49,370 --> 00:42:49,380 1807 00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:51,799 and in a local temple called the Temple 1808 00:42:51,799 --> 00:42:51,809 and in a local temple called the Temple 1809 00:42:51,809 --> 00:42:52,400 and in a local temple called the Temple of Solomon 1810 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:52,410 of Solomon 1811 00:42:52,410 --> 00:42:54,049 of Solomon there used to be an inscription which 1812 00:42:54,049 --> 00:42:54,059 there used to be an inscription which 1813 00:42:54,059 --> 00:42:55,880 there used to be an inscription which told of us our serfs claim around the 1814 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:55,890 told of us our serfs claim around the 1815 00:42:55,890 --> 00:42:59,059 told of us our serfs claim around the earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from 1816 00:42:59,059 --> 00:42:59,069 earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from 1817 00:42:59,069 --> 00:43:06,960 earth 50 ad to be Jesus the Prophet from Israel 1818 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:06,970 1819 00:43:06,970 --> 00:43:08,980 tamam - creepy 1820 00:43:08,980 --> 00:43:08,990 tamam - creepy 1821 00:43:08,990 --> 00:43:11,320 tamam - creepy kashmira history books tell us that your 1822 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:11,330 kashmira history books tell us that your 1823 00:43:11,330 --> 00:43:12,820 kashmira history books tell us that your sauce off came from abroad 1824 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:12,830 sauce off came from abroad 1825 00:43:12,830 --> 00:43:17,410 sauce off came from abroad yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and 1826 00:43:17,410 --> 00:43:17,420 yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and 1827 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:20,770 yeah yeah profit ah he was a prophet and a messenger he came from Israel if alien 1828 00:43:20,770 --> 00:43:20,780 a messenger he came from Israel if alien 1829 00:43:20,780 --> 00:43:22,930 a messenger he came from Israel if alien CI a-- listening he came to spread his 1830 00:43:22,930 --> 00:43:22,940 CI a-- listening he came to spread his 1831 00:43:22,940 --> 00:43:26,200 CI a-- listening he came to spread his teachings voided my eye he lived and 1832 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:26,210 teachings voided my eye he lived and 1833 00:43:26,210 --> 00:43:26,920 teachings voided my eye he lived and died here 1834 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:26,930 died here 1835 00:43:26,930 --> 00:43:32,140 died here yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus 1836 00:43:32,140 --> 00:43:32,150 yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus 1837 00:43:32,150 --> 00:43:37,600 yeah he w that matter hi well he jesus my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo 1838 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:37,610 my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo 1839 00:43:37,610 --> 00:43:40,330 my mushy be he is jesus he is he's on yo the meaning of you saw sup he came at 1840 00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:40,340 the meaning of you saw sup he came at 1841 00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:43,210 the meaning of you saw sup he came at the healer who there's another meaning 1842 00:43:43,210 --> 00:43:43,220 the healer who there's another meaning 1843 00:43:43,220 --> 00:43:45,580 the healer who there's another meaning is the shepherd one who teaches others 1844 00:43:45,580 --> 00:43:45,590 is the shepherd one who teaches others 1845 00:43:45,590 --> 00:43:48,730 is the shepherd one who teaches others chef IL VA was quote and our history 1846 00:43:48,730 --> 00:43:48,740 chef IL VA was quote and our history 1847 00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:51,280 chef IL VA was quote and our history books confirmed that ISA was known as 1848 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:51,290 books confirmed that ISA was known as 1849 00:43:51,290 --> 00:43:55,000 books confirmed that ISA was known as USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a 1850 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:55,010 USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a 1851 00:43:55,010 --> 00:43:57,150 USSR here in Kashmir Munir Jamaica a wallet 1852 00:43:57,150 --> 00:43:57,160 wallet 1853 00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,130 wallet Yossef continued to teach and preach in 1854 00:44:00,130 --> 00:44:00,140 Yossef continued to teach and preach in 1855 00:44:00,140 --> 00:44:02,620 Yossef continued to teach and preach in Kashmir until he died around the Year 80 1856 00:44:02,620 --> 00:44:02,630 Kashmir until he died around the Year 80 1857 00:44:02,630 --> 00:44:11,720 Kashmir until he died around the Year 80 AD he was buried in Srinagar 1858 00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:11,730 1859 00:44:11,730 --> 00:44:17,640 and this they say is yourselves tuned 1860 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:17,650 1861 00:44:17,650 --> 00:44:19,829 the first building erected around this 1862 00:44:19,829 --> 00:44:19,839 the first building erected around this 1863 00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:24,390 the first building erected around this site was built in 112 ad in fact it's 1864 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:24,400 site was built in 112 ad in fact it's 1865 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,819 site was built in 112 ad in fact it's now a shared grave site in the 15th 1866 00:44:26,819 --> 00:44:26,829 now a shared grave site in the 15th 1867 00:44:26,829 --> 00:44:29,519 now a shared grave site in the 15th century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir 1868 00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:29,529 century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir 1869 00:44:29,529 --> 00:44:34,880 century the Islamic holy man Siad Nazir Ogden was also buried here 1870 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:34,890 1871 00:44:34,890 --> 00:44:37,070 although both gravestones under the 1872 00:44:37,070 --> 00:44:37,080 although both gravestones under the 1873 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,620 although both gravestones under the cloth point north-south in the Islamic 1874 00:44:39,620 --> 00:44:39,630 cloth point north-south in the Islamic 1875 00:44:39,630 --> 00:44:42,950 cloth point north-south in the Islamic tradition the body of Yosef is buried 1876 00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:42,960 tradition the body of Yosef is buried 1877 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,640 tradition the body of Yosef is buried beneath in a grave dug east-west in the 1878 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:46,650 beneath in a grave dug east-west in the 1879 00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:56,470 beneath in a grave dug east-west in the Jewish tradition 1880 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:56,480 1881 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,540 next to the sarcophagus a - carved 1882 00:44:59,540 --> 00:44:59,550 next to the sarcophagus a - carved 1883 00:44:59,550 --> 00:45:02,030 next to the sarcophagus a - carved footprints 1884 00:45:02,030 --> 00:45:02,040 footprints 1885 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,400 footprints the marks on these are said to be the 1886 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:04,410 the marks on these are said to be the 1887 00:45:04,410 --> 00:45:06,830 the marks on these are said to be the symbolic representations of the scars of 1888 00:45:06,830 --> 00:45:06,840 symbolic representations of the scars of 1889 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,230 symbolic representations of the scars of crucifixion 1890 00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:08,240 crucifixion 1891 00:45:08,240 --> 00:45:11,780 crucifixion atchoo Madame a year for pariah 1892 00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:11,790 atchoo Madame a year for pariah 1893 00:45:11,790 --> 00:45:15,440 atchoo Madame a year for pariah the footprints were carved as a sign fun 1894 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:15,450 the footprints were carved as a sign fun 1895 00:45:15,450 --> 00:45:18,650 the footprints were carved as a sign fun the scars are clearly visible received 1896 00:45:18,650 --> 00:45:18,660 the scars are clearly visible received 1897 00:45:18,660 --> 00:45:20,660 the scars are clearly visible received when he was nailed to the cross directly 1898 00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:20,670 when he was nailed to the cross directly 1899 00:45:20,670 --> 00:45:23,420 when he was nailed to the cross directly at okay I'm sure they show that this is 1900 00:45:23,420 --> 00:45:23,430 at okay I'm sure they show that this is 1901 00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:25,730 at okay I'm sure they show that this is the same person who came from Israel and 1902 00:45:25,730 --> 00:45:25,740 the same person who came from Israel and 1903 00:45:25,740 --> 00:45:27,890 the same person who came from Israel and that he lived and died here know that 1904 00:45:27,890 --> 00:45:27,900 that he lived and died here know that 1905 00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:30,650 that he lived and died here know that yeah you won't find any footprints like 1906 00:45:30,650 --> 00:45:30,660 yeah you won't find any footprints like 1907 00:45:30,660 --> 00:45:33,050 yeah you won't find any footprints like these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't 1908 00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:33,060 these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't 1909 00:45:33,060 --> 00:45:36,950 these anywhere else in Kashmir we don't have that traditionally the position of 1910 00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:36,960 have that traditionally the position of 1911 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,440 have that traditionally the position of the scars just behind the toes do not 1912 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:39,450 the scars just behind the toes do not 1913 00:45:39,450 --> 00:45:42,140 the scars just behind the toes do not match each other but they would align if 1914 00:45:42,140 --> 00:45:42,150 match each other but they would align if 1915 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:44,390 match each other but they would align if a single nail was driven through both 1916 00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:44,400 a single nail was driven through both 1917 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,880 a single nail was driven through both feet with the left foot placed over the 1918 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:46,890 feet with the left foot placed over the 1919 00:45:46,890 --> 00:45:59,870 feet with the left foot placed over the right 1920 00:45:59,870 --> 00:45:59,880 1921 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,960 there are many who believe this tomb to 1922 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:02,970 there are many who believe this tomb to 1923 00:46:02,970 --> 00:46:09,090 there are many who believe this tomb to be the tomb of Jesus 1924 00:46:09,090 --> 00:46:09,100 1925 00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,030 if this is the tomb of Jesus then he 1926 00:46:12,030 --> 00:46:12,040 if this is the tomb of Jesus then he 1927 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,490 if this is the tomb of Jesus then he spent most of his life in the Mountain 1928 00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:14,500 spent most of his life in the Mountain 1929 00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:21,359 spent most of his life in the Mountain Kingdom of Kashmir 1930 00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:21,369 1931 00:46:21,369 --> 00:46:24,930 he did not die on the cross there was no 1932 00:46:24,930 --> 00:46:24,940 he did not die on the cross there was no 1933 00:46:24,940 --> 00:46:27,930 he did not die on the cross there was no resurrection he did not ascend into 1934 00:46:27,930 --> 00:46:27,940 resurrection he did not ascend into 1935 00:46:27,940 --> 00:46:31,049 resurrection he did not ascend into heaven and he does not sit at the right 1936 00:46:31,049 --> 00:46:31,059 heaven and he does not sit at the right 1937 00:46:31,059 --> 00:46:32,830 heaven and he does not sit at the right hand of God 1938 00:46:32,830 --> 00:46:32,840 hand of God 1939 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,840 hand of God for many Christians this would be the 1940 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:34,850 for many Christians this would be the 1941 00:46:34,850 --> 00:46:39,000 for many Christians this would be the end of Christianity as we know it 1942 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:39,010 1943 00:46:39,010 --> 00:46:41,280 but for some the original story would 1944 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:41,290 but for some the original story would 1945 00:46:41,290 --> 00:46:44,400 but for some the original story would still have a poetic power 1946 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:44,410 still have a poetic power 1947 00:46:44,410 --> 00:46:46,490 still have a poetic power for me the resurrection is about death 1948 00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:46,500 for me the resurrection is about death 1949 00:46:46,500 --> 00:46:48,839 for me the resurrection is about death the two things that will happen to us 1950 00:46:48,839 --> 00:46:48,849 the two things that will happen to us 1951 00:46:48,849 --> 00:46:50,370 the two things that will happen to us all in our life is that would be born 1952 00:46:50,370 --> 00:46:50,380 all in our life is that would be born 1953 00:46:50,380 --> 00:46:52,440 all in our life is that would be born and that will die there the two things 1954 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:52,450 and that will die there the two things 1955 00:46:52,450 --> 00:46:54,029 and that will die there the two things we know nothing about and we have this 1956 00:46:54,029 --> 00:46:54,039 we know nothing about and we have this 1957 00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:55,859 we know nothing about and we have this great void before we have this great 1958 00:46:55,859 --> 00:46:55,869 great void before we have this great 1959 00:46:55,869 --> 00:46:59,009 great void before we have this great void afterwards so any system of belief 1960 00:46:59,009 --> 00:46:59,019 void afterwards so any system of belief 1961 00:46:59,019 --> 00:47:01,259 void afterwards so any system of belief any religion any church that set itself 1962 00:47:01,259 --> 00:47:01,269 any religion any church that set itself 1963 00:47:01,269 --> 00:47:03,569 any religion any church that set itself up has always had to have some concept 1964 00:47:03,569 --> 00:47:03,579 up has always had to have some concept 1965 00:47:03,579 --> 00:47:08,830 up has always had to have some concept some way of dealing with death 1966 00:47:08,830 --> 00:47:08,840 1967 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,560 so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of 1968 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:11,570 so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of 1969 00:47:11,570 --> 00:47:14,590 so in Jesus's resurrection at the end of the the Easter story is the symbolism of 1970 00:47:14,590 --> 00:47:14,600 the the Easter story is the symbolism of 1971 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,780 the the Easter story is the symbolism of our own resurrection of our own new life 1972 00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:18,790 1973 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:21,340 that in many ways is the great strength 1974 00:47:21,340 --> 00:47:21,350 that in many ways is the great strength 1975 00:47:21,350 --> 00:47:23,530 that in many ways is the great strength of Christianity and I think to kind of 1976 00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:23,540 of Christianity and I think to kind of 1977 00:47:23,540 --> 00:47:25,060 of Christianity and I think to kind of get away from it to get away from that 1978 00:47:25,060 --> 00:47:25,070 get away from it to get away from that 1979 00:47:25,070 --> 00:47:27,790 get away from it to get away from that incredibly powerful symbolism of the 1980 00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:27,800 incredibly powerful symbolism of the 1981 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,860 incredibly powerful symbolism of the Resurrection that touches each and every 1982 00:47:29,860 --> 00:47:29,870 Resurrection that touches each and every 1983 00:47:29,870 --> 00:47:31,480 Resurrection that touches each and every one of us because of the reality of what 1984 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:31,490 one of us because of the reality of what 1985 00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:33,250 one of us because of the reality of what will happen to us and start debating 1986 00:47:33,250 --> 00:47:33,260 will happen to us and start debating 1987 00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:35,560 will happen to us and start debating whether you know bones in a to matter or 1988 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:35,570 whether you know bones in a to matter or 1989 00:47:35,570 --> 00:47:37,240 whether you know bones in a to matter or whether it actually happened completely 1990 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:37,250 whether it actually happened completely 1991 00:47:37,250 --> 00:47:40,440 whether it actually happened completely misses the point of Christianity and 1992 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:40,450 misses the point of Christianity and 1993 00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:43,390 misses the point of Christianity and there will always be those for whom none 1994 00:47:43,390 --> 00:47:43,400 there will always be those for whom none 1995 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,550 there will always be those for whom none of the inconsistencies and anomalies in 1996 00:47:45,550 --> 00:47:45,560 of the inconsistencies and anomalies in 1997 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,820 of the inconsistencies and anomalies in the Gospels mean anything for them the 1998 00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:48,830 the Gospels mean anything for them the 1999 00:47:48,830 --> 00:47:51,370 the Gospels mean anything for them the story still has the hallmarks of truth 2000 00:47:51,370 --> 00:47:51,380 story still has the hallmarks of truth 2001 00:47:51,380 --> 00:47:55,810 story still has the hallmarks of truth of gospel truth I understand that people 2002 00:47:55,810 --> 00:47:55,820 of gospel truth I understand that people 2003 00:47:55,820 --> 00:47:57,640 of gospel truth I understand that people find it difficult to believe because we 2004 00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:57,650 find it difficult to believe because we 2005 00:47:57,650 --> 00:47:59,680 find it difficult to believe because we know these things don't happen if you 2006 00:47:59,680 --> 00:47:59,690 know these things don't happen if you 2007 00:47:59,690 --> 00:48:01,270 know these things don't happen if you think that you've just seen somebody who 2008 00:48:01,270 --> 00:48:01,280 think that you've just seen somebody who 2009 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,160 think that you've just seen somebody who is dead now alive again you say well 2010 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:03,170 is dead now alive again you say well 2011 00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:04,930 is dead now alive again you say well take two aspirins and lie down it'll go 2012 00:48:04,930 --> 00:48:04,940 take two aspirins and lie down it'll go 2013 00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:07,360 take two aspirins and lie down it'll go away and and the thing was you didn't go 2014 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:07,370 away and and the thing was you didn't go 2015 00:48:07,370 --> 00:48:09,370 away and and the thing was you didn't go away and what we have in the Gospels is 2016 00:48:09,370 --> 00:48:09,380 away and what we have in the Gospels is 2017 00:48:09,380 --> 00:48:10,840 away and what we have in the Gospels is not stories of people saying well of 2018 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:10,850 not stories of people saying well of 2019 00:48:10,850 --> 00:48:13,000 not stories of people saying well of course here he is he's live again have 2020 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:13,010 course here he is he's live again have 2021 00:48:13,010 --> 00:48:14,680 course here he is he's live again have stories people say what do you mean 2022 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:14,690 stories people say what do you mean 2023 00:48:14,690 --> 00:48:16,930 stories people say what do you mean don't be silly that can't happen they 2024 00:48:16,930 --> 00:48:16,940 don't be silly that can't happen they 2025 00:48:16,940 --> 00:48:19,990 don't be silly that can't happen they knew as well as we do and yet right in 2026 00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:20,000 knew as well as we do and yet right in 2027 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,330 knew as well as we do and yet right in the heart of it all they come back and 2028 00:48:22,330 --> 00:48:22,340 the heart of it all they come back and 2029 00:48:22,340 --> 00:48:24,460 the heart of it all they come back and say it really has happened it's 2030 00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:24,470 say it really has happened it's 2031 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:27,190 say it really has happened it's completely blown us away it changed our 2032 00:48:27,190 --> 00:48:27,200 completely blown us away it changed our 2033 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,230 completely blown us away it changed our worldview and it's gone on changing 2034 00:48:29,230 --> 00:48:29,240 worldview and it's gone on changing 2035 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:32,470 worldview and it's gone on changing people's worldviews ever since180815

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