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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,820 --> 00:00:16,560 So we're just sitting here on the Turkish coast, it's about, its about four a.m. 2 00:00:18,020 --> 00:00:19,140 and.... 3 00:00:19,140 --> 00:00:24,860 the traffickers have been notified that we're with the migrants, and they're NOT happy. 4 00:00:25,710 --> 00:00:31,099 There's a group of angry men pointing at us right now, that are with the migrants. We've been 5 00:00:31,650 --> 00:00:38,839 informed that there's a couple of traffickers hidden amongst the group, to kind of advise them, and talk to the boat, and 6 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:41,779 they want to get rid of us quick. 7 00:00:42,629 --> 00:00:46,249 So.... our security are telling us we gotta get out of here. 8 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:52,940 But up the road the Gendarme, the Turkish police, have been patrolling back and forth 9 00:00:52,940 --> 00:00:55,309 we've had helicopters been going above and.... 10 00:00:56,309 --> 00:01:01,219 we're scared that if we head back that way we might be intercepted by the police instead. 11 00:01:03,299 --> 00:01:12,200 So we're....we're dealing with human traffickers, or Turkish police....it seems like it's gonna be a long night. 12 00:02:04,009 --> 00:02:11,199 Europe is a continent in crisis. In fact Europe is a continent in the midst of several crises. 13 00:02:12,140 --> 00:02:18,279 From questions about its conscience, its political ideas, its humanitarian 14 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:26,649 responsibilities to the rest of the world. How, or if at all, it is going to enforce its borders, and the massive 15 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:29,499 demographic changes that it is facing. 16 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,890 These are some of the most dramatic changes Europe has ever faced. 17 00:02:35,930 --> 00:02:43,090 But this change has been a long time coming. The Tunisian revolt of 2010 put an end to 18 00:02:43,489 --> 00:02:49,149 President Ben Ali's 23 years in power, and led to a thorough 19 00:02:49,579 --> 00:02:54,549 democratization of the country. The uprising sparked the so-called Arab Spring, 20 00:02:54,950 --> 00:02:59,769 which worked its way across North Africa and the Middle East over the next five years. 21 00:03:00,799 --> 00:03:03,400 Dictators like Gaddafi in Libya, 22 00:03:03,590 --> 00:03:09,310 or Egypt's Mubarak, were violently thrown out of office, and a slew of other 23 00:03:09,709 --> 00:03:12,129 uprisings made their way to places like Syria, 24 00:03:12,980 --> 00:03:17,600 erupting in bloody civil war. The chaos in places just 25 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:23,100 kilometers away from Europe's borders would soon reach its shores. 26 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:27,000 By 2015, over a quarter of Syria's population 27 00:03:27,019 --> 00:03:34,599 had found themselves displaced, with refugees making their way to nearby countries like Lebanon, Turkey, and Jordan. 28 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:42,190 Continuing instability soon made Libya a crossing point for refugees looking to make their way 29 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:44,380 illegally into the European Union. 30 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,720 So far 31 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:54,060 the mainstream conversation has been dominated by talk of refugees drowning in the Mediterranean, 32 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,880 and questions of what is our 33 00:03:57,260 --> 00:04:01,269 humanitarian responsibility to people fleeing war and persecution. 34 00:04:02,180 --> 00:04:07,539 But alongside this there has been a second conversation. One asking questions 35 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:09,880 about the women who are 36 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:16,239 raped en masse in Cologne, or of cultural compatibility, and religious compatibility. 37 00:04:16,700 --> 00:04:19,689 Just how many people can Europe handle? 38 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:24,999 There are so many opinions on this issue from all different political perspectives, 39 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:30,130 but we really wanted to take a look at this without the lens of politics. 40 00:04:31,070 --> 00:04:35,589 Just how many people are coming into Europe? Where are they coming from? 41 00:04:36,110 --> 00:04:39,879 Who are they, and what has been Europe's response? 42 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:48,549 How many of these people are economic migrants, and what actually happens to them once they arrive on the shores? 43 00:04:50,210 --> 00:04:54,430 Turkey saw more than 60% of all Syrian refugee arrivals 44 00:04:54,920 --> 00:05:01,390 to their country. More than 3.5 million people. And at the height of the crisis in 45 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:09,219 2015, the pathway between Turkey and Greece saw more crossings than any other route into Europe. 46 00:05:09,830 --> 00:05:13,929 So we'll need to draw a line back from Europe, all the way 47 00:05:14,660 --> 00:05:18,000 to Turkey, and begin our journey there. 48 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:38,529 So right now we are in Ayvalik turkey, and the reason we're in Turkey is because this is where 49 00:05:38,660 --> 00:05:45,160 the migrants coming from all over the Middle East take their first step into Europe. Whether it be the 50 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:48,340 islands off the coast of Greece, or Bulgaria, 51 00:05:48,590 --> 00:05:53,799 this is where it is all happening, where the traffickers are collecting the money and sending them off on the boats, 52 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:59,079 sneaking them into trucks and across the border. Where all of this begins. 53 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:04,600 At about 3, 4, 5 a.m. 54 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:10,500 boats leave from these shores in Ayvalik to Lesvos, and we're gonna see if we can track down 55 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:16,280 where they're leaving from, see if we can find the migrants, film the boats, and maybe even 56 00:06:16,970 --> 00:06:18,970 film the traffickers themselves. 57 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,639 That's our goal here in Turkey, to catch 58 00:06:22,280 --> 00:06:28,869 what is going on, who are the people going across, and who is facilitating these illegal crossings? 59 00:06:42,580 --> 00:06:48,870 So we've just arrived, we've been doing a little bit of investigating....talking to locals, trying to find out 60 00:06:49,330 --> 00:06:54,690 where the traffickers are going, where they're taking off from, which routes the migrants take, and.... 61 00:06:55,210 --> 00:07:03,060 all of our investigation has led us to this spot here. It's a beach right across the water from Lesbos Greece, and we've been told 62 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:11,279 ....around....up to hundreds of migrants come through this route every week at some points, 63 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:16,700 and....we thought maybe if we stay here, at the times they come through, around four or five a.m. 64 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:21,449 we'd run across some, and we could film them, and even talk to them. 65 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:27,329 Yeah, this must be one of the spots that they start. 66 00:07:30,610 --> 00:07:32,610 We've got life jackets here. 67 00:07:35,500 --> 00:07:39,000 Some gloves. Got a tube. 68 00:07:46,510 --> 00:07:50,920 All sorts of equipment on this side of the fence. They must hide back here until late, 69 00:07:52,340 --> 00:07:55,479 bring the boat over, get people on, and then send them out. 70 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,080 That's crazy. 71 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,200 See if there's anything else. 72 00:08:01,804 --> 00:08:05,800 I'm a little nervous going in there. You want to come with? 73 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,369 Blankets, sweaters.... 74 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Yeah, here's someone's sweater. 75 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:21,780 Cigarettes....everything. Backpacks. 76 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,440 We're gonna have to turn off these lights pretty quick here, and be super quiet, because we dont want 77 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:38,400 to get discovered by the traffickers, or the migrants, and scare them off, because we want to see 78 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:42,119 what it's like on the ground for these people coming into Europe. 79 00:08:46,950 --> 00:08:50,700 So it's coming on 6 a.m. here. We stayed up all night 80 00:08:50,850 --> 00:08:56,899 scouting things out, and... I mean, the beach is littered with evidence of these migrants, but... 81 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,440 we didn't come across any people, and that's what we're looking for. 82 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:07,759 So, we're probably gonna wrap things up before it gets light out, and we all need some sleep, because tomorrow night it's gonna be another 83 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,730 all-nighter looking for these traffickers and migrants. 84 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:21,620 It's 2 a.m. 85 00:09:21,620 --> 00:09:27,500 I'm in a small little village in Turkey called Kudu Oba, right across the water from 86 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,089 Greece, and I'm here to speak to an olive farmer. 87 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:37,200 Apparently his land has become a direct passage for the 88 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:42,199 influx of people to Europe, and....I want to find out more, ask him some questions 89 00:09:42,510 --> 00:09:48,230 about what is going on here, in this tiny little Turkish coastal town. 90 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,940 It's very nice to meet you. Thank you so much for having me here. 91 00:10:03,030 --> 00:10:07,490 My great grandfather farmed here, along with the four generations after him. 92 00:10:08,190 --> 00:10:09,990 We grew crops. 93 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:14,750 Mainly olives. We tend animals. Its farming, it's what we do. 94 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:18,800 The villagers here are busy every day. 95 00:10:19,620 --> 00:10:23,599 Everybody works. This is what the village life has always been like here. 96 00:10:24,390 --> 00:10:29,180 Before the crisis, the villagers would go to their fields alone, to tend their crops. 97 00:10:30,540 --> 00:10:32,280 But not anymore. 98 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,690 Women especially. 99 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:39,000 They can't go out anywhere alone now. They have to be escorted, 100 00:10:39,570 --> 00:10:41,570 even on their own farms. 101 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,079 It all started in 2013, 102 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,700 started slowly, with a few migrants passing here and there, but now.... 103 00:10:50,850 --> 00:10:52,850 thousands pass every day. 104 00:10:53,310 --> 00:10:57,560 This village is on the coast, where they launch the boats at the dead of the night, 105 00:10:58,260 --> 00:11:00,260 so.... it's where they wait.... 106 00:11:01,110 --> 00:11:07,610 Then the crime started, and it got worse and worse. The traffickers starting killing people they had arguments with, 107 00:11:08,550 --> 00:11:10,320 including the migrants. 108 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:18,000 No one in the village could go to their own fields to pick olives. The traffickers had taken over the land, and it got worse. 109 00:11:18,149 --> 00:11:25,100 They turned up at my farm, pulled a gun on me, and told me they wanted the deed. 110 00:11:25,260 --> 00:11:27,700 They were acting like the Mafia. 111 00:11:27,899 --> 00:11:30,200 These people are dangerous. 112 00:11:30,390 --> 00:11:36,769 If you are filming here, you need to be careful. The traffickers disguise themselves as migrants. 113 00:11:38,370 --> 00:11:40,339 We are all frightened here now. 114 00:11:40,339 --> 00:11:46,999 I'm 55 years old, and now I have to carry a gun just to tend my field and animals. 115 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:53,750 There are 20 more villages just like ours along this stretch of the coast. 116 00:11:54,630 --> 00:11:56,339 I would say.... 117 00:11:56,339 --> 00:12:00,259 one million people have passed through just along this coastline. 118 00:12:04,189 --> 00:12:10,359 So I have just finished speaking with the local olive farmer, here on the coast of Turkey, and 119 00:12:11,749 --> 00:12:13,220 honestly.... I'm 120 00:12:13,220 --> 00:12:14,949 completely shocked by what he had to say. 121 00:12:14,949 --> 00:12:17,558 I don't think we consider often, that.... 122 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:24,279 there is a Turkish perspective to this migrant crisis, and it's not quite what people think it is. 123 00:12:24,829 --> 00:12:32,169 They also feel that their homeland is being affected by this, and not in a good way. And they're also confused by this 124 00:12:32,329 --> 00:12:33,800 open border policy, 125 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:38,409 going on in Europe and their own country. That's something that I've never heard of. 126 00:12:38,569 --> 00:12:45,759 We kind of just get told that it's this racist European opinion, that people can't come in, and they can't assimilate. 127 00:12:46,249 --> 00:12:52,599 But the Turkish people also recognize that they have a different culture to different Middle Eastern countries as well, 128 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:59,259 and there's a clash going on, and a crisis going on here, right at the beginning 129 00:13:00,079 --> 00:13:05,769 right before these people come into Europe. So that was just fascinating. And this farmer told me that tonight 130 00:13:06,230 --> 00:13:08,439 there will be migrants almost certainly 131 00:13:09,110 --> 00:13:11,379 trying to cross the water over to Greece. 132 00:13:15,949 --> 00:13:20,378 So right now we're trying to be really quiet, we are hiding 133 00:13:21,319 --> 00:13:27,819 down a little road. It's one of the paths that the migrants and traffickers usually take 134 00:13:28,730 --> 00:13:35,029 to get to the water at about 4 or 5 a.m., and then take their little boats to Greece. 135 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:41,900 So....yeah....gunna lay low and....hope that we 136 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,200 run into some migrants, so we can ask them about their journey. 137 00:14:00,210 --> 00:14:03,050 So it's night number three of pulling an all-nighter, 138 00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:10,069 searching for these migrants, and I'm actually a lot more hopeful that we're going to run into some people tonight, because we've changed 139 00:14:10,069 --> 00:14:17,809 locations and we're in a far more high-traffic area, but after getting that information from locals, we also found out that 140 00:14:18,420 --> 00:14:20,420 these aren't just 141 00:14:20,420 --> 00:14:25,020 traffickers, like these people are armed, like they've come up to people's doors with 142 00:14:25,020 --> 00:14:30,300 Ak-47's so....as much as I'm excited to potentially run into these people, 143 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,160 I don't know what's going to happen if we actually find them. 144 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:48,250 Are the doors locked? He has a weapon. Oh my god.... 145 00:14:52,000 --> 00:15:03,000 [Car beeping sound] Holy shit. Are they refugees? Look over there. Get away from the door. [van door sliding sound] 146 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,589 The guy in charge is not with them. 147 00:15:25,589 --> 00:15:33,000 He just gave them a pathway, told them " keep walking, and I'll show up with the boat", and they're unsure.... if he'll be there or not 148 00:15:35,620 --> 00:15:39,900 How much you pay? 1000 dollars. Oh, 1000, they pay 1000 dollars. 149 00:15:40,060 --> 00:15:42,060 Each person? Each person. 150 00:15:43,510 --> 00:15:47,900 And then they'll take you to ah....Lesvos? Yes Lesvos. 151 00:15:50,100 --> 00:15:51,959 And why? Why do you want to go to Lesvos? 152 00:15:51,959 --> 00:15:55,000 Because in Afganistan we have all the time war. 153 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,440 We dont have economy.... 154 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,900 and we dont have any money. 155 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,000 We dont have any money in Afganistan. 156 00:16:04,149 --> 00:16:06,149 Why not stay in Turkey? 157 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:10,000 Because we dont have anything. Family.... 158 00:16:10,330 --> 00:16:12,500 No ID, nothing here. 159 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,200 I dont have my family in Turkey. I dont have anyone in Turkey. 160 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,900 Oh, is your family in Europe? 161 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:19,700 Yeah. 162 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,900 What have you heard about Sweden? 163 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Its the best country. I want to go. 164 00:16:31,260 --> 00:16:36,000 So right now I'm standing on a beach with a bunch of migrants or refugees, 165 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:43,900 and they're all trying to cross to Moria, but....there have been Gendarme all across the roads, 166 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 arresting people, stopping them from going over, so.... 167 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:52,310 we're not even sure if the boat is going to show up. They've come down here to the shores, and have no idea 168 00:16:52,310 --> 00:16:59,800 where the boat is. They've all paid thousands of Euro to make this journey, and it's uncertain 169 00:16:59,900 --> 00:17:06,700 whether there really will be a ship arriving at this point, and they keep....in fact, the've mistaken us for their guides. 170 00:17:07,050 --> 00:17:10,000 We're just waiting here. We're not sure how long we should stay, 171 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,678 because there's a ......, a boat, going back and forth here, 172 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:17,839 and we don't want to get arrested with everyone if that happens, because, all our footage will be taken away. 173 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,200 So we're gonna lay low, be quiet and see if a boat arrives, 174 00:17:23,209 --> 00:17:25,200 But we gotta get out of here soon. 175 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,760 So we're just leaving the ah.... 176 00:17:43,860 --> 00:17:47,820 the pickup spot, because we don't think there's a boat coming today. 177 00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:54,000 There's a bunch of people waiting down there. They kind of split up. They were all confused as to whether 178 00:17:54,260 --> 00:17:56,020 the traffickers were coming or not, 179 00:17:56,030 --> 00:17:59,359 and there were a lot of Gendarme, Turkish police around tonight, 180 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:04,250 and, we think the traffickers may have even had a scout out that saw our car and thought 181 00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:09,950 our car may have been one of the police, so the boat decided not to show up. 182 00:18:09,950 --> 00:18:15,400 It could still be showing up right now, we're uncertain, but, we decided to get out of there before.... 183 00:18:15,510 --> 00:18:22,760 the lights came up, because, we're either stuck between police, and a bunch of angry migrants that didn't get a boat. 184 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,129 So we're gonna try to get out of here, 185 00:18:25,770 --> 00:18:28,550 get safe in the car, drive away, and then 186 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:34,849 assess the situation, and see what happened. Just....we do not want to get arrested today, and we don't want 187 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,910 migrants angry because their traffickers didn't show up. 188 00:18:50,570 --> 00:18:53,890 After talking to the group, some of whom were refugees, 189 00:18:54,409 --> 00:18:59,889 some of whom were not, I was surprised to find out that many of them had not 190 00:19:00,230 --> 00:19:07,750 been actively looking for passage to Greece, and that many of the mostly Afghan migrants had in fact been approached 191 00:19:08,149 --> 00:19:10,149 beforehand by the smugglers. 192 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,549 Hey, I haven't heard from you in like a week, 193 00:19:21,549 --> 00:19:25,359 we were getting a little worried there, you guys okay in Morocco? What's going on? 194 00:19:25,360 --> 00:19:31,000 We've managed to get ourselves an interview, a front line interview, with one of the guys who actually 195 00:19:31,159 --> 00:19:35,829 traffic's people, so places them in a boat, puts them on a boat to Spain, and pretty hard to get the interview, 196 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:39,640 but he's agreed to do a video interview for us. There's a couple of issues here in Morocco, though, 197 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:45,900 I'm sure you're....you're aware, but, um, filming is really restrictive legally here. It's pretty crazy. There's checkpoints everywhere. 198 00:19:46,010 --> 00:19:50,919 So bring the bare essentials that you can to get this done, um, break the cameras down. 199 00:19:52,309 --> 00:19:56,000 There are some real ramifications if we do get caught....um.... 200 00:19:56,149 --> 00:20:01,000 There has been journalist's jailed here, and I need to jump on this quickly....in the next couple of days 201 00:20:11,530 --> 00:20:14,309 Ok, so we're here in the mountains of Nador, a little 202 00:20:14,740 --> 00:20:21,030 town on the coast of Morocco, right across from Spain, where tons of migrants from Sub-Saharan Africa are 203 00:20:21,580 --> 00:20:27,809 just sitting here waiting for their chance to get on a little dinghy raft to go over to Spain, and....it's been hours, 204 00:20:27,809 --> 00:20:30,500 we've been waiting all day....and, 205 00:20:30,790 --> 00:20:37,109 our guy hasn't shown up. He's nowhere to be found. He's sending us really brief messages, 206 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:42,000 yes/no, back and forth. He's super nervous about talking to us, but.... 207 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:43,270 I'm just gonna kind of 208 00:20:43,270 --> 00:20:49,600 hold out here and see, because if we could talk to him and really figure out what's going on here, that would be huge. 209 00:20:49,700 --> 00:20:52,000 So it's getting dark soon. We're probably going to have to interview him 210 00:20:52,100 --> 00:20:54,300 in the dark if he does show up. 211 00:21:36,090 --> 00:21:40,600 My name is ******. I am Senegalese. I'm 20 years old. 212 00:21:40,769 --> 00:21:43,600 I spent eight months here. 213 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,139 How do people get to Spain? 214 00:21:46,139 --> 00:21:51,570 People have to get...have to spend a lot of money here. 215 00:21:51,570 --> 00:21:53,900 They have to spend 2000 Euro. 216 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,000 Wow. From Tangier? Yeah Yeah 217 00:21:55,109 --> 00:22:02,800 What is not guaranteed, when you enter in Spain, you are lucky, when you don't enter, you are lost the money, you try again 218 00:22:02,909 --> 00:22:05,000 to have another money to go. 219 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600 So you can pay more for a guarantee? 220 00:22:07,710 --> 00:22:14,449 Yeah, where the guarantee have one but. Everybody, everybody, 2500 Euro, 2500 you have, 221 00:22:15,059 --> 00:22:19,000 when, when the boat enter, the boss have a lot of money. 222 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:26,900 How many people are sent over to Spain from here in a week or a month? 223 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:32,000 One day....one, one day you can have 500....500 person 224 00:22:32,489 --> 00:22:39,000 or one day you can have 5....500 person, but the most we can have 2000. 225 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:43,049 Why dont people legally apply? 226 00:22:43,899 --> 00:22:45,000 Why don't people? 227 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:48,000 Try to go in legally? 228 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:55,000 Because of.... you know, in our country is so difficult to have a visa. 229 00:22:55,659 --> 00:22:57,659 So difficult to have a visa. 230 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:03,000 When....when you have money to give the government.... 231 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,000 Is it OK? 232 00:23:13,700 --> 00:23:17,000 It's just that car....just watch that.... 233 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:20,500 It's stopping.... 234 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:25,500 It's coming here.... 235 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,960 So..... 236 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:40,400 So our guy ****** has just, just run off, 237 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:46,770 we just had a local farmer pull up, and the car coming out into this field with the light on.... 238 00:23:46,770 --> 00:23:52,980 thought it was a sting operation I guess. They're so worried that we're working with the cops, or trying to set them up, 239 00:23:52,980 --> 00:23:55,379 we're trying to get them arrested and he just 240 00:23:56,050 --> 00:23:59,039 sprinted into the woods, and he's got our Lav mic, he's 241 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:05,279 gone. There's a good chance he's not gonna come back. He's gonna think that this is all a setup. 242 00:24:05,650 --> 00:24:10,000 We're gonna lose and burn all of our contacts in this area. 243 00:24:10,690 --> 00:24:18,509 So he actually came back, which is awesome, and he brought the Lav, so it looks like we haven't totally burned our contacts there. 244 00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:25,799 It's all business. The....I mean, we're not talking about refugees here, refugees can't afford to pay these 2000, 3000, 245 00:24:26,380 --> 00:24:30,150 4000 Euros, to get over to Spain. People who are dirt poor, 246 00:24:30,340 --> 00:24:33,899 trying to escape their country, these kids who are living on the street just.... 247 00:24:34,870 --> 00:24:39,200 starving to death in Sub-Saharan Africa, they're not the ones getting on these boats. They cant afford that. 248 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:43,080 We're not talking about the poorest of the poor. The people who actually 249 00:24:44,050 --> 00:24:46,050 desperately need to come to Europe, 250 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,500 they're never gonna get to set foot there. They're never gonna get to come over. They can't afford these prices. 251 00:24:53,650 --> 00:24:59,189 That's what's so freakin sad about it. It doesn't seem like any of this....until you get.... 252 00:24:59,410 --> 00:25:03,480 I Guess....until you get to the last leg of the journey where you've got these NGO boats, 253 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,280 none of this is for humanitarian aid, 254 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,540 and....I mean you've got tons of Canadians, tons of Americans, tons of Europeans, donating 255 00:25:09,820 --> 00:25:16,289 millions of dollars for these NGOs to go into the water and save these people because they think they're Syrian refugees, 256 00:25:16,290 --> 00:25:21,000 they think they're poor people escaping corrupt governments that are oppressing them, 257 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:27,449 and all it is is they're just the last leg in a giant human trafficking operation, making these people in Morocco 258 00:25:27,850 --> 00:25:32,159 millions and millions and millions of dollars, and the people they're helping are not 259 00:25:32,980 --> 00:25:34,980 who they think they are. 260 00:25:36,010 --> 00:25:39,449 It's really sad, it's really really freaking sad. 261 00:25:40,630 --> 00:25:44,939 It's easy to underestimate the scale of the operation in Morocco, 262 00:25:44,940 --> 00:25:46,940 but when you add up the figures 263 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:54,270 it becomes clear that these numbers add up to more than a hundred thousand Euros per boat, and 264 00:25:54,850 --> 00:25:57,059 millions of euros every week. 265 00:26:00,070 --> 00:26:07,649 One route that is particularly interesting are these two Spanish enclaves nestled on the coast of Morocco. 266 00:26:07,929 --> 00:26:09,929 Ceuta and Melilla. 267 00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:17,130 Every day thousands of legal workers make their way back and forth across what is becoming known as 268 00:26:17,409 --> 00:26:19,619 Europe's most fortified borders. 269 00:26:19,690 --> 00:26:25,900 It is increasingly becoming one of the largest crossing points in 2018, 270 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,900 with thousands making their way to the enclaves, and then into the EU Schengen zone. 271 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:59,680 So right now I'm standing in a small little Spanish enclave on the tip of Morocco called 272 00:27:00,020 --> 00:27:02,889 Melilla, and right across this border is 273 00:27:03,620 --> 00:27:09,849 Morocco, and in recent months this has become a new hub for illegal migration, with people 274 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:12,130 desperately trying to get over this fence 275 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,600 into Spain, so they can make their way 276 00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:21,760 through Europe. And we're about to head to the other side of this fence to go and investigate just how they do it. 277 00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:30,670 Just kilometres away from the fence we trekked into the mountains to 278 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:37,150 investigate some of the locations migrants were setting up camps in preparation to make the crossing. 279 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,700 I was here since 2017. 280 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:49,600 I decided to leave Gambia to go to foreign, so I can 281 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:55,000 have a more professional career, be more professional in football. That's why I leave Gambia. 282 00:27:55,610 --> 00:27:59,650 Do you have any guess of how many people in total are here today? 283 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:06,000 Well in all of these I can see 200 people. You can find 200 people in one camp. 284 00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:07,000 In one camp? 285 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,510 Yes. 286 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,900 And there's camps scattered everywhere? 287 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,000 Yeah, yeah. 288 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,440 And have you tried to go before? 289 00:28:15,380 --> 00:28:22,000 For sure I have tried, I have tried a lot of times. I have tried, but still now.... 290 00:28:22,300 --> 00:28:26,170 When you cross you never come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 291 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,900 Any boat that cross to Spain never come back, yeah. 292 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:37,300 If they see us with this passport they will, they will deport them. 293 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,000 Oh, they destroy them? So rip out the pages? 294 00:28:42,039 --> 00:28:45,748 And you're saying you want to go to London yes? 295 00:28:45,748 --> 00:28:47,748 Sure. That's my favorite country. 296 00:28:48,669 --> 00:28:52,439 While in the camp, we met the leader of the group whose job 297 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,190 it was to take the money, 298 00:28:54,190 --> 00:29:01,980 find food for the migrants, and was the link between those hoping to storm the border, and the head of the smuggling syndicate in 299 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,200 Morocco. 300 00:29:05,230 --> 00:29:10,469 This is a place people wait before they cross the fence to get to Ceuta which is European soil. 301 00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:14,819 It's where everyone wants to go. Once you land, you never come back. 302 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,720 Our men here leave their wives at home and wait here to cross. One day they hope to bring their wives. 303 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:29,639 I'm doing this because I know the system here better than anyone, and I want to help these people cross. So they're right, 304 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:31,919 their lives here are not good. 305 00:29:33,490 --> 00:29:38,279 We are all created equal people. Borders should not be in place like this. 306 00:29:39,369 --> 00:29:44,579 There are two ways you can come. One is by boat, and the other is on the fence. 307 00:29:46,929 --> 00:29:48,879 Here we jump the fence. 308 00:29:48,879 --> 00:29:55,859 Once every month. We all pick a date, then we all get together, and any weapons we can, and storm the fence. 309 00:29:57,850 --> 00:30:03,509 This takes a long time to plan, and not all of us make it. In fact most don't make it. 310 00:30:04,119 --> 00:30:09,149 I hear a lot of people say once they make it they regret the trip, and Europe doesn't turn out how they want it to. 311 00:30:09,850 --> 00:30:11,850 Our next jump is coming up soon. 312 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:19,469 Trouble has broken out of the border of a Spanish enclave in Morocco, where hundreds of African migrants 313 00:30:19,659 --> 00:30:24,388 attempted to storm the coastal city of Ceuta in their efforts to reach Europe. 314 00:30:24,460 --> 00:30:28,409 The resulting clashes saw police officers attacked with acid. 315 00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:46,940 So we need to talk about Moria. 316 00:30:47,100 --> 00:30:54,409 It's one of the single issues in this crisis to receive almost more attention than anything. 317 00:30:54,409 --> 00:30:58,699 It's this small little refugee camp about a 15 minute drive 318 00:30:58,919 --> 00:31:05,329 inland on the Greek island of Lesvos, and this small camp has processed and received 319 00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:11,209 hundreds of thousands of Europe's refugee asylum applications. 320 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,259 It's a processing facility that's designed for about two and a half 321 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,759 thousand people but realistically holds around 322 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:25,250 10,000 in small tents surrounding the actual facility and 323 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:29,700 the news reports that are coming out of this place are 324 00:31:29,850 --> 00:31:31,850 horrifying. We've heard 325 00:31:32,309 --> 00:31:34,309 reports about starvation, 326 00:31:34,620 --> 00:31:35,700 murder, 327 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:41,389 theft, the rape of women and children in these tents at night, and even that this 328 00:31:41,610 --> 00:31:44,600 facility is being used to filter 329 00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:52,069 ISIS into Europe. So there's no doubt that this is a place we are going to need to visit, 330 00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:54,830 while on our trip. 331 00:32:30,029 --> 00:32:32,100 The camp is completely full. 332 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,358 Oh inside is completely full? How many people? 333 00:32:36,299 --> 00:32:41,268 Here on the Moria, just ah, I think, ah, nearly 11,000 people. 334 00:32:41,909 --> 00:32:43,350 11,000? Wow. 335 00:32:43,350 --> 00:32:45,000 How many people come per day? 336 00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:53,300 He says it depends, some days come 300 people. Some days 100. Some 150. No security from here, from there. 337 00:32:53,489 --> 00:32:55,100 No security from there to there? 338 00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:55,800 Nothing. 339 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,000 Is it quite dangerous? 340 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,400 It's quite dangerous. No security. Sometimes you're.... 341 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 they become fighting between the....refugees. 342 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:04,500 Mmmm 343 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:06,000 Because theres no security. 344 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:11,000 Moria no good....no good Moria, no good. 345 00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:13,600 Greece no good? 346 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,340 Cannot compare between Moria and Yemen, you know. 347 00:33:16,470 --> 00:33:23,200 There is war and there is....also had....eh.... problems and not safe here. This place is not safe. 348 00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:28,909 We escaped from....ahh....our country because there is not safe, and we came here, not safe also. 349 00:33:28,909 --> 00:33:30,000 Mmmm 350 00:33:30,100 --> 00:33:32,300 So no difference. No difference. 351 00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:34,850 Is it dangerous here? 352 00:33:34,850 --> 00:33:36,810 Yes. Its dangerous. 353 00:33:36,810 --> 00:33:39,889 Why? What is....what's dangerous about it? 354 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,300 Fights. Fights every day. 355 00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:44,300 Lots of fighting? Yeah. 356 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,000 Do you regret leaving Afghanistan? 357 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,500 Yeah. 358 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:50,000 Yeah? 359 00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:54,500 Yeah, yeah. You wish you stayed in Iraq? No, should've stayed in Iraq. 360 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,000 Do you wish you stayed home? 361 00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:57,500 Yeah, why not? 362 00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:01,700 Did it cost you a lot to come here? 363 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:06,900 Yeah. 1200 Euro. 364 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,000 1200 Euro to come here from Turkey? 365 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:09,900 Yeah. 366 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:14,200 For me 500. Some people maybe 1000. 367 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:15,400 1000 euro? 368 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:18,100 It's a business. I think it's a business. 369 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,800 It's....the camp is a business? 370 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,800 Yeah. 371 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,000 When you're paying for a smuggler, you are crossing the borders, 372 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:30,500 almost you are 2000, 3000 dollars, you are paying for each person. 373 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,000 And where do you want to go to? 374 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:32,900 After here? 375 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,700 Yeah. 376 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,000 Maybe Belgium or Iceland 377 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:37,000 Belgium or Iceland? 378 00:34:37,380 --> 00:34:44,760 These makes problems, you know, and eh at the night, maybe then....maybe some people come kill you while you are sleeping. 379 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,000 Has that happened before? 380 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:54,500 Yes it happened. Many people killed and eh hitted while they are sleeping. 381 00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:58,159 Food. Food. Food line. 382 00:34:58,159 --> 00:34:59,400 And are there fights? 383 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,700 Yeah, yeah. 384 00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:02,700 Oh my god. 385 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,800 Everything. Everything. 386 00:35:06,150 --> 00:35:11,839 We spoke to a senior doctor working with patients in the camp to understand its problems. 387 00:35:12,750 --> 00:35:16,250 I've been here in in Mytilene for four months. 388 00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:24,000 I'm mainly based with the clinic here, but I have been doing in....some session, you know....going over to Morea and.... 389 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:29,700 and....ehh.... working in the camp there a little bit. You know Moria camp has 9000, 390 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,500 more than 9,000 now. We're having a hundred people arrive each day. 391 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:42,000 There was....on the 16th of September there were 324 arrivals to the island. 392 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,849 So there are small movements off the island, but actually that's only, you know.... 393 00:35:48,210 --> 00:35:56,000 It's not decongesting. That there are so many people in a camp that was originally designed for 3100. 394 00:35:56,130 --> 00:36:01,400 So we need to get people, people who already....you know.... have been identified as being vulnerable 395 00:36:01,890 --> 00:36:07,609 They need to be moved off the island to the mainland and that....so they can be looked after....you know there. 396 00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,800 Thank you so much. That was fantastic. 397 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,100 It's a crazy situation. 398 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:20,700 It's tough. We spoke to a few of them who....oh I wish I could go home now, I regret coming. 399 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,000 It's difficult. 400 00:36:22,670 --> 00:36:27,100 I mean at the clinic here, we see largely single men....and.... 401 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:30,500 A lot of the people that we have spoken to have shown us stab wounds and stuff like that, and its just.... 402 00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:31,980 Yeah, yeah. 403 00:36:31,980 --> 00:36:36,400 I think you put eight thousand people into a place and....and then.... 404 00:36:36,690 --> 00:36:40,000 You know, you are putting some ethnic groups together, but it's....its just the context. 405 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:44,500 So you put eight thousand people together and they don't know how long they're going to be there. They don't have any hope. 406 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,000 They....eh....they....you know....you're going to get violence, of course you're going to get violence. It's....it's....it's.... 407 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,500 Yeah....eh....I'm sorry, but it's it's just a recipe for disaster. 408 00:36:55,019 --> 00:36:59,929 While Doctors Without Borders were working to help many of the migrants suffering in the camp, 409 00:37:00,390 --> 00:37:07,000 several residents made some alarming allegations about Greek government doctors working inside Moria. 410 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:11,000 How did they get you to Athens with a bribe? 411 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000 How does it work? 412 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:29,500 There's is someone....a guide. You talk to him and he told us, if you want to take ID card, I can take you to the place OK. 413 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:34,000 He guide him to the Doctor, and make a paper for him, 414 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,500 and wait. In two weeks, one month, to get these papers of passage. 415 00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:40,900 So after that he can pass. 416 00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:42,900 So the Doctor's make the papers? 417 00:37:42,900 --> 00:37:44,900 Yeah, yeah. He takes the bribery. 418 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:48,000 At the reception there is many people, 419 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000 eh....told us to come to the Doctor. 420 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,500 You can sell this ID card....you can....sorry, buy ID card 421 00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:57,400 Or you can....we can take you to the Doctor 422 00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:01,700 he can do something good for you, to take official paper 423 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,700 to go....pass from here. 424 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:07,000 So is the official paper like a medical form? 425 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000 Yeah, a medical form, yeah. 426 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,000 So he'll say you have.... 427 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:18,000 You have a problem....you have cancer, you have something bad....you have a....a dangerous illness. 428 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:24,000 Like a cancer or something else. You have a problem in kidney, you have a problem in heart. 429 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,700 And then you have to move to Athens? 430 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,500 Yeah. You must be moved to Athens. 431 00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:37,900 As troubling as a potential bribes-for-passage scandal is, what we heard next was deeply concerning. 432 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,500 When he get a fight, he get stabbed in his back. Five, five times. Wants kill me. ISIS. 433 00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,000 Oh my gosh! 434 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:06,600 Fight, fight everywhere. You see this? Camera problem, we must put a camera. ISIS. 435 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000 Afraid. If you want to protect people, put a camera at least. 436 00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:16,000 I want to speak just to you, just me and you. 437 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,800 OK. How do you know its ISIS? 438 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,200 You can come to me and my tent. If you want. 439 00:39:20,380 --> 00:39:22,380 Have you how do you know is ISIS? 440 00:39:23,260 --> 00:39:27,400 Maybe 1000, 2000. Allah. 1000 ISIS. 441 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,279 We will come to your tent. You can tell us. 442 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,330 You said you know ISIS is operating in this camp? 443 00:39:39,609 --> 00:39:43,000 Yes, they are here disguised as refugees. 444 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:44,900 They are here asking for refugee. 445 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,400 Why? 446 00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:52,000 They fled Iraq and Syria. Because they are defeated in their countries. 447 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,359 So they are looking for refugees? 448 00:39:54,600 --> 00:40:00,500 They are looking for a safe place. They are here. They can rape, they can kill, they can steal. 449 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:02,400 And they have....tell her that they are armed. 450 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:06,400 They have ......They have knives 451 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,700 And they're causing violence in the camp? 452 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:15,900 something about a weapon, not weapon....letter knife, something like a....razors 453 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:21,000 We have tried several times to make contact with the police, but they do not respond. 454 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:27,000 Before our time he got....he got hit in his head 455 00:40:28,319 --> 00:40:31,069 Police tell him 'go Malacca, go, go bitch'. 456 00:40:31,109 --> 00:40:33,271 They do not care about our life okay. 457 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,569 And they don't care that there are radicals in this camp? 458 00:40:36,569 --> 00:40:37,069 Radicals yeah. 459 00:40:37,069 --> 00:40:43,248 We told them to put a camera. We told them many times, to put a camera at least, to protect ourselves. 460 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:50,299 Okay, we are....we thank them. Okay, but we need a protection, a protection at least, protection. 461 00:40:50,299 --> 00:40:55,459 We appreciate that....what they do, what they do. Food okay, they are providing food, but 462 00:40:55,500 --> 00:40:59,500 we need the prot....The very important thing is the protection. Protection. 463 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,300 We did not come here only for food. 464 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:06,889 And drugs everywhere, and drugs everywhere. This a dangerous....this a virus, must be defeated. 465 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:14,000 There are you say something like eleven thousand people here. How many would you say are ISIS or criminals? 466 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,500 One thousand. Many of them. 467 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:16,500 One thousand? 468 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,230 His life is not safe here. 469 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,200 It's like the Greek government is helping the terrorists to eliminate us. 470 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:26,800 How do you stay safe? 471 00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,641 Ha, we are....God protect us. 472 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:32,000 You just hope, you cross your fingers? 473 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,000 Yeah. God protect us. 474 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:43,100 If the government....if the government put a camera everywhere, they will discover everything, they will find out everything. 475 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,000 Just a camera. 476 00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:49,400 The press can help us. They take videos and photos, but its not enough. 477 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:55,400 He said....Many....many....many of you came here. They didn't send the message completely. 478 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:02,000 My life has been in danger since the day I arrived here. I havent had one good nights sleep. 479 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:07,700 He is Atheist. He doesnt believe in any religion. His life in the danger. 480 00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:09,000 Because you are Atheist? 481 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,500 Yes. 482 00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:12,400 As he says.... 483 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,835 Is the majority of the camp religious? 484 00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:19,900 Yeah. Majority is the Islamic, but he is scared the from the ISIS. 485 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:22,800 He is scared from the radical Islam, Islamic? 486 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:23,900 The ISIS. 487 00:42:24,500 --> 00:42:30,000 When they see me outside, or here in my tent, they find and attack me. 488 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,000 Many people attack him, and are using a knife against him. 489 00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,250 Because he is Atheist? 490 00:42:38,170 --> 00:42:40,800 Yeah. Because he is Atheist, as he says. 491 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:46,900 And if you are....alright....do other Atheists or Christians get attacked in the camp? 492 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Not only Atheists. Christians as well. 493 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,400 Also Christian? Yeah. Also Christian. Jew? 494 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:57,900 They also attack other minorities like Yazidis and Kurds. 495 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:03,400 Yazidi and Kurd?....and Kurd. They killed four Kurds recently in another camp. 496 00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:05,900 There was a video of it going around. 497 00:43:06,500 --> 00:43:09,000 There were four people from the....eh....Kurdish 498 00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:11,000 have been killed. 499 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:12,600 The Kurdish people? 500 00:43:12,825 --> 00:43:14,350 The Kurdish. As he said. 501 00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:25,950 One thing I think 502 00:43:25,950 --> 00:43:31,300 that is really important to understand, is exactly how these asylum applications work. 503 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:36,200 So in Greece, for example, they have the UNHCR E.A.S.O. 504 00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:44,210 or European Asylum Support Office. And they are there in the camps doing interviews with these migrants asking them questions to determine 505 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:53,100 who they are. Are they economic migrants? Are they potential criminals? Or are they actual refugees fleeing war and persecution? 506 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Now one thing we know is that 507 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,920 from 2015 to 2016 508 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:03,300 80% of all Syrian National's asylum applications into Europe were accepted, 509 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:09,900 with 40% of all other countries being accepted into Europe. Only about 3% 510 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:17,360 were rejected during this time frame, with the rest being delayed until next year. We know that in 2017 511 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,800 Germany accepted the most out of any other country in Europe. That being 512 00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:28,040 261,000 asylum applications, not including those who illegally entered. 513 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,609 Now many of these people came through Lesbos. 514 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:38,000 So we want to know just how many of these people are still coming in. Who are they? 515 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:44,900 And in 2018, is this process still working the way it was initially supposed to. 516 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,000 Ariel Ricker welcomes an asylum seeker to a legal consultation. 517 00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,899 The Hawaiian born lawyer abandoned her practice a year ago, to set up 518 00:44:54,090 --> 00:44:58,309 Advocates Abroad, a group that offers legal aid to those seeking international 519 00:44:58,590 --> 00:45:06,409 protection. Ricker herself took on Lesvos, ground zero in this great experiment, out of concern for American human rights standards. 520 00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,440 America is a land of migrants, 521 00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:14,000 and there's an anger I think, about how, how this election turned out. 522 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,400 We sent a producer to meet Ariel in Scala, a tiny fishing village in the north of the island 523 00:45:20,580 --> 00:45:25,819 That was home to several NGOs, and hundreds of aid workers and volunteers. 524 00:45:26,130 --> 00:45:31,250 In the Goji cafe, a hub for volunteers, he recorded this meeting. 525 00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:35,900 I tell them that this is um acting, all of this is acting. 526 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,000 They are all acting as if this is theatre. So for them to get through they must act their part in the theatre, 527 00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:44,100 and that is a refugee in trauma. Because these [immigration] officers are so fucking stupid, that.... 528 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:48,000 all they know is what is written on the paper....EASO says this is a refugee in trauma. 529 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,000 They have these characteristics, so we coach people how to have these characteristics. 530 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:57,500 So with the first role playing activity, it's like us....um....being....um....them, and they're the officer. 531 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,000 Then we poke around after they've had some practice to see how should I walk into the office? 532 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,400 How should I introduce myself? How should I give them the folder? 533 00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:06,000 And then how do I sit down? And then when do I stand up? 534 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,000 When do I show them how to pray. 535 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:11,000 Why would you need to show them how to pray? 536 00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:16,000 Well....'cause it's a good....it's a good way to show....um....honesty. It's done in other places too. 537 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,000 Like not good places. To see if you are truly what you say you are. 538 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,000 If you cant show how you pray.... 539 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000 If you are actually a Christian? 540 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,000 Mmmm. 541 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,500 Oh, as if you're saying it like saying, you're fleeing persecution.... 542 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:30,400 Then you should probably know how to....you know....pray that way. 543 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:32,880 They also ask like..what's your favorite holiday? 544 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,000 Some people just say like....Christmas, ahh but like....we explain you can't just say this.... 545 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,000 because it's not a sufficient answer. 546 00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:41,000 You have to say.....um....and you have to say it in a certain way like 547 00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:45,000 December twenty fifth, Christmas is the birthday of our Lord and Saviour. 548 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:49,490 There is a formula, which is ironic because I suck at formula's. 549 00:46:49,490 --> 00:46:51,490 But it's like significant event, date and location. 550 00:46:51,490 --> 00:46:54,500 So the way you answer all their questions is the same way. 551 00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:58,000 Um....in December 2017.... 552 00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:04,588 in Izmir Turkey I was threatened for being a Christian because my boss and his friends jumped me when I was leaving my church 553 00:47:04,589 --> 00:47:09,000 This is my Bible they tried to tear up. This is the crucifix I was wearing that they tried to tear.... 554 00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:12,000 and it made me feel unsafe as a Christian Turkey. Ba boom! 555 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,500 Did you have it....have all the elements there? 556 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:21,000 Like our narrative timeline format....like has a little fill in the blank section at this point, and then.... 557 00:47:34,869 --> 00:47:42,300 Now a video has been released allegedly showing the executive director of a major NGO which provides help to migrants 558 00:47:42,459 --> 00:47:46,400 discussing how she teaches refugees to lie to border guards. 559 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,400 This video that's been doing the rounds online um.... 560 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,839 is part of a larger investigation project. The clip allegedly shows 561 00:47:55,209 --> 00:47:59,668 Ariel Ricker, who's the executive director of the legal aid NGO 562 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,400 Advocates Abroad. In this video clip she seems to be 563 00:48:03,549 --> 00:48:08,900 telling the undercover crew who were filming her against her knowledge, that she coaches 564 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,300 refugees and migrants on how they should.... 565 00:48:12,609 --> 00:48:15,869 how they should speak to border police. They've also since 566 00:48:16,419 --> 00:48:19,619 deleted their online social media presence, 567 00:48:19,619 --> 00:48:25,200 their Twitter account has gone, and their Facebook account has gone as well. 568 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,498 These recordings highlight the worrying attitudes of NGO's 569 00:48:28,809 --> 00:48:33,508 towards the very idea of borders. In the car on the way to another part of the island 570 00:48:34,089 --> 00:48:38,200 Ariel confirmed not just the existence of smugglers inside Europe, 571 00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:43,300 but revealed the level of support for their actions among volunteers and aid workers. 572 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,800 Smugglers....actually there's various classes of smugglers in my mind....um 573 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:52,000 there's angels, they are very rare but there are two hero angels that I love. 574 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,259 There the jet ski heros. 575 00:48:54,259 --> 00:48:57,600 And like this....I don't know what to actually call it, I dont know actually who they are 576 00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:02,400 But they both have been arrested....like on and off 577 00:49:02,479 --> 00:49:06,000 Like the jet ski hero of Izmir was just arrested actually here in Lesvos the other day 578 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:11,100 so his deal is basically, he doesn't charge except for what the petrol costs to get off Turkey to here. 579 00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:16,929 With a....on a jet ski. Then he takes them on his own jet ski personally, he drives them from Izmir to here 580 00:49:16,929 --> 00:49:20,400 and drops them off. And then he skirts off into the night on his little jet ski. 581 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:22,000 Oh I love him so much. 582 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,000 and he's done it like thousands of times 583 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,400 so he's taken thousands and thousands of people. 584 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:33,800 George, you there? 585 00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:36,010 Hey, yeah I've a.... 586 00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:38,090 interesting rumour....ah.... 587 00:49:38,090 --> 00:49:45,579 apparently there's going to be a passenger ship docking in Lesvos this morning with the leader of E.R.C.I. on it, 588 00:49:45,770 --> 00:49:47,770 this Panos Moraitis guy. 589 00:49:47,770 --> 00:49:53,600 Yeah, he's the one....that's uh....like hiding from police for the last little bit 590 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:59,000 Apparently, he's gonna be on this boat....um....so I think if we, if we can find a way on the boat 591 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,000 we can get an interview with him. He's been in the news 592 00:50:02,100 --> 00:50:04,500 because of these allegations of people trafficking, 593 00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:06,300 and....you know.... 594 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:11,000 from what I'm hearing, he's been making a fuck-ton of money 595 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,000 when his organisation is supposed to be rescuing refugees 596 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000 in the sea around Lesvos. 597 00:50:18,110 --> 00:50:23,400 I'd be shocked, you know this....we know there's a big business going on to the other side now.... 598 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:25,450 but if it extends all the way to Europe that's.... 599 00:50:26,210 --> 00:50:32,000 Exactly. Exactly what we've been talking about. These European NGOs making big bucks off this crisis. So.... 600 00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:32,600 Yeah. 601 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,500 Lets do it. 602 00:50:52,090 --> 00:50:54,090 Could you just briefly tell me what the charges are? 603 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,640 Ahhh. Quite grave actually. Ahhh, 604 00:50:58,490 --> 00:50:59,930 espionage, ahhh, 605 00:50:59,930 --> 00:51:01,930 getting access to state secrets, 606 00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:05,000 facilitating smuggling and human trafficking. 607 00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,000 Money laundering. 608 00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:13,000 Forgery, and breach of the telecommunications code. 609 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:17,300 And how many....how many people have you helped, in the crisis? 610 00:51:17,490 --> 00:51:21,000 At sea. More than 55,000 people. 611 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,400 A lot of media are saying that you are a human trafficker. 612 00:51:25,570 --> 00:51:27,570 I just wanted a very direct response to.... 613 00:51:28,510 --> 00:51:34,439 We have never facilitated human trafficking. We have never assisted any smuggler. We're quite against it 614 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,500 We're here to save lives and nothing more. 615 00:51:49,349 --> 00:51:54,800 They said that....err....we were actually money....money laundering 616 00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:57,980 unknown sums of money 617 00:51:59,730 --> 00:52:05,000 and the press in Greece said like five hundred million 618 00:52:05,500 --> 00:52:11,600 and in reality it was 500,000 Euro 619 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:18,000 which if you engage with NGOs, you know, it's a small amount of money actually 620 00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:19,170 for three years. 621 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:24,000 uh....we were....we were laundering it. 622 00:52:25,329 --> 00:52:29,309 So I've just gone back to watch some of the footage 623 00:52:30,099 --> 00:52:32,099 of the interview we did with 624 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:38,700 Panos the head of E.R.C.I., and I'm listening to the undercover recording we have now. 625 00:52:39,460 --> 00:52:46,619 Panos denied all of these allegations to the police and publicly. He said they were partaking in 626 00:52:47,410 --> 00:52:53,900 no money laundering at all, and I'm pretty sure I just heard his lawyers say to us on tape 627 00:52:54,130 --> 00:52:56,339 they laundered half a million dollars. 628 00:52:56,890 --> 00:52:57,970 I'm.... 629 00:52:57,970 --> 00:53:00,419 I'm just also really alarmed here that 630 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:08,849 his lawyers telling us that laundering half a million dollars is nothing compared to what other NGOs do. I.... 631 00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,579 I don't...I dont even believe what I'm 632 00:53:12,250 --> 00:53:14,250 listening to right now....um.... 633 00:53:15,390 --> 00:53:18,900 I don't know....is this....is this a one-off thing? 634 00:53:19,420 --> 00:53:23,460 We....we have a lot more investigating to do on this island. That's for sure. 635 00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:39,849 Given the huge numbers of people 636 00:53:40,069 --> 00:53:45,489 entering Europe, and the authorities apparent inability to handle the scope of this crisis, 637 00:53:45,490 --> 00:53:50,979 it is no wonder that we are seeing an increase in migration related crime, 638 00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:58,659 with a wave of major terror attacks across Europe following the influx of millions of newcomers in 639 00:53:59,030 --> 00:54:04,659 2015 and 2016, to an increase in rape, knife crime, and murder. 640 00:54:05,180 --> 00:54:12,000 Trust in the European Union's ability to handle this crisis is at an all-time low. 641 00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:22,200 At the European Parliament in Brussels, a small but growing number of MEP's are working to highlight not just the cultural cost, 642 00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:26,300 but also the economic cost of the crisis at Europe's borders. 643 00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:31,700 So what is migration costing Europe right now? 644 00:54:31,819 --> 00:54:37,000 Our research is going to show it's somewhere in the region to a hundred and fifty billion euros, 645 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,400 to two hundred billion Euros a year, 646 00:54:40,579 --> 00:54:48,399 for all the 27 European countries, and the European Union funding, together. This is not sustainable. 647 00:54:48,919 --> 00:54:50,029 Merkel.... 648 00:54:50,029 --> 00:54:56,198 let in two million people. That has had a profound effect on the societies, and especially.... 649 00:54:56,479 --> 00:54:59,918 particularly the Nordic region's as well. In Denmark, Sweden, 650 00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:08,000 Norway, that's not actually in the EU, but is part of the Schengen area as well. They've had a profound....that's had a profound effect. 651 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:16,329 For example Emmanuel Macron wants to continue the model of immigration 652 00:55:16,329 --> 00:55:19,400 mostly from Maghreb and Sub-Saharan Africa. 653 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:23,000 This type of immigration has dramatic consequences, 654 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,000 very hefty social and economic consequences 655 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:31,500 France has six million unemployed people looking for work, 656 00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,200 more than 9 million people below the poverty line, 657 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:37,400 and these are the consequences of immigration. 658 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:45,000 The migration Advisory Committee said that large-scale migration hasn't brought the huge economic benefits that that....that 659 00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:51,879 the left of argued. Actually in some cases, and particularly now, it's provable, if you're poor across Europe 660 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:56,709 you've actually suffered, your wages have declined. You've become more cramped, more dense in the housing. 661 00:55:56,709 --> 00:56:01,441 It's been more difficult to try and get into social services. Those have been accepted facts now. 662 00:56:01,441 --> 00:56:04,200 And then there's billions spent on communications, 663 00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:10,600 a migrant compact....um....it's just billions and billions and billions wasted, 664 00:56:10,729 --> 00:56:14,499 where actually we could just be centering on the answers, 665 00:56:14,499 --> 00:56:21,668 which is our answers, which....that the voters want, is that we stop the migration coming, and the fast tracking 666 00:56:21,979 --> 00:56:28,269 of the migrants that are already here, and then to stop more coming. And it is by bilateral 667 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:34,000 negotiation, and not by....the E.U. .... the E.U. doesn't have the solution. 668 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,000 They are the problem. Of course the NGOs are aiding and abetting, 669 00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:40,719 because the NGOs are ideologically opposed to us as well. 670 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:46,058 And ideologically, they are wedded to the fact that there should be a borderless Europe, and there should be a borderless world. 671 00:56:46,059 --> 00:56:48,500 And so therefore they are aiding them. 672 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,548 You're seeing segregation in Swedish cities. 673 00:56:51,549 --> 00:56:54,729 You're already beginning to see segregation in German cities. 674 00:56:54,799 --> 00:57:02,469 It's well recognized that if you have large-scale migration rather than drip-feed migration that fits into the economic needs, that we have 675 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:09,100 You'll get segregation, separation, and also people starting to look at each other in a very negative way. 676 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,600 This is not the future for countries in Europe. 677 00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,719 In some of Europe's often overlooked outlying countries 678 00:57:17,029 --> 00:57:23,500 Militia groups have taken it upon themselves to bolster Europe's professional Border Security 679 00:57:23,509 --> 00:57:27,900 Often patrolling the deep forests at the continents far flung borders. 680 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,500 You will be taking your assignments from two commanders. 681 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,500 Split into two teams. 682 00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,500 Nine on the other side, and nine here. 683 00:57:48,500 --> 00:57:51,500 Team one, scan the valley in two fours 684 00:57:52,099 --> 00:57:55,000 Each of you scan the area around here. 685 00:58:12,990 --> 00:58:19,010 Today we're covering a larger area, but must remain in sight of each other at all times. 686 00:58:19,010 --> 00:58:25,120 Do you copy? If I go this way, you follow my lead. 687 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:49,000 Drop down into the valley and check if they have arrived. 688 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:53,800 They might come through this route, 689 00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:57,000 Or the other side on the road to Primorsko. 690 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,500 They are here somewhere. 691 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,400 Did you hear something? 692 00:59:19,500 --> 00:59:22,000 I'm not sure. 693 00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:25,500 They are here alright. 694 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,200 Down in the valley. 695 00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,000 It's dangerous. That's why it's better for her to stay here. 696 00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:36,500 Sergeant do you copy? 697 00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:41,600 Connection lost. 698 00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,000 Connection lost with both teams. 699 01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:10,400 These militias are well organized and intimidating. With mixed support from local and national authorities. 700 01:00:10,470 --> 01:00:13,900 Many of the men carry only Airsoft weapons. 701 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:19,220 But to migrants detained in foreign territory, the effect is just as powerful. 702 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:23,500 I myself am a professional military man. 703 01:00:24,330 --> 01:00:29,500 I graduated from military school, 704 01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:32,000 but left many years ago. 705 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:36,000 Now I am a veteran. 706 01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:41,500 I work in security and intelligence. Complex security services and global investigations. 707 01:00:42,870 --> 01:00:44,870 My private work....business. 708 01:00:46,380 --> 01:00:52,360 Some of the other men were in the military. Some weren't. 709 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:58,400 Many are Teachers, Historians, Professors or Doctors. Ordinary citizens. 710 01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,000 They come to us and we train them 711 01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:05,500 and they become part of the defence of the European border. 712 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,000 In the last year we have turned back 713 01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:14,000 more than 90,000 people 714 01:01:16,340 --> 01:01:22,500 but we do not return people who apply at the checkpoints. 715 01:01:22,950 --> 01:01:28,400 We return only those who are 716 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:34,800 crossing through the forest without papers. 717 01:01:34,940 --> 01:01:36,500 Because I think 718 01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:39,000 if they are trying to sneak through the forest 719 01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,000 its something only 720 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,780 either criminals or terrorists 721 01:01:42,780 --> 01:01:45,000 or ISIS fighters would do. 722 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:53,000 The height of this movement of people was back in 2015 and 2016 723 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:59,000 So Europe has had over two years to watch the dust begin to settle 724 01:01:59,730 --> 01:02:01,730 Where are these people now? 725 01:02:02,250 --> 01:02:07,699 What are they doing? Did they get the lives that they dreamed of, that they were promised? 726 01:02:08,220 --> 01:02:11,200 Are they just glad to be safe? 727 01:02:11,340 --> 01:02:13,340 What about those who came for work? 728 01:02:13,910 --> 01:02:16,600 Did they ever find what they were looking for? 729 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:22,260 I want to know whether all of this chaos and confusion 730 01:02:22,260 --> 01:02:24,700 was ever worth it. 731 01:02:31,970 --> 01:02:37,700 So we're just here in Paris, where tens of thousands of people are arriving 732 01:02:37,850 --> 01:02:45,370 from across the Mediterranean. Many people think they are coming to a paradise when they arrive in a big European city like Paris 733 01:02:45,370 --> 01:02:49,809 but in the other camps we found across Europe a common sentiment is that 734 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,810 it was not the paradise 735 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:54,810 they were expecting, and in many cases 736 01:02:55,010 --> 01:02:59,919 their life was better back home. And we want to interview and talk to some of these migrants and see 737 01:03:00,260 --> 01:03:03,000 how they feel living here in Paris now 738 01:03:03,050 --> 01:03:10,600 especially where they're staying underneath bridges, where they're sleeping in tents on the streets, where they don't have a job 739 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:13,959 they aren't really integrating into society. 740 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:20,409 We want to try to understand what life is like for a migrant here in Paris in 2018 741 01:03:37,770 --> 01:03:39,000 Okay 742 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,800 It's been six month since I arrived in Italy. 743 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:44,800 and now I'm in France. 744 01:03:45,060 --> 01:03:46,500 I've got no work, I've got nothing. 745 01:03:46,500 --> 01:03:48,000 That's my journey. 746 01:03:48,180 --> 01:03:49,400 Even though I speak French 747 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,800 when we arrived in France 748 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,500 we couldn't find any work 749 01:03:53,500 --> 01:03:54,500 we couldn't find anything 750 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:56,000 Mali? 751 01:03:56,100 --> 01:04:00,000 I miss Mali very much. 752 01:04:00,300 --> 01:04:02,360 from the first day I left 753 01:04:02,970 --> 01:04:10,400 I took a huge risk crossing the sea from Libya 754 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,000 When I was in Mali 755 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,000 I never imagined Europe to be like this 756 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,000 especially France 757 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,500 I thought I would come here 758 01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:22,160 find a job, find a house 759 01:04:22,170 --> 01:04:25,400 send money back to my family 760 01:04:25,500 --> 01:04:28,000 I had hope 761 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:33,000 I thought it would be hard, but not this hard. 762 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:37,000 It was a mistake, a big mistake. 763 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:43,000 All the Africans who cross the sea like I did 764 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,600 They're risking their lives. 765 01:04:47,700 --> 01:04:51,000 If you've got no papers 766 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:55,000 if you've got no job. 767 01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:57,620 It was a big mistake. 768 01:04:57,660 --> 01:05:00,950 Unable to claim asylum, unable to go home 769 01:05:01,710 --> 01:05:07,800 migrants and refugees alike have found themselves stuck between a rock and a hard place. 770 01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:13,900 The truth is nobody wins in this situation. But what about other countries? 771 01:05:14,100 --> 01:05:20,400 What happens when a refugee is granted asylum, or a migrant is accepted by the state? 772 01:05:24,980 --> 01:05:32,290 Direct provision began in 2000 as a means of providing basic accommodation to asylum seekers while their applications were being processed 773 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,589 It's....I suppose in the news a lot more because there is a huge increase in the amount asylum seekers that are going to Ireland 774 01:05:38,690 --> 01:05:45,579 As well as that one centre, 500 asylum seekers are also living in hotels and BnB's around the country, and many....and thousands more are living 775 01:05:45,579 --> 01:05:47,000 in other integration centres around the country. 776 01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:54,089 And this is the Grand Hotel in Wicklow, and what do people in some of the towns involved really think? 777 01:05:54,089 --> 01:05:55,510 I think it's a disgrace. 778 01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:58,509 I really do....like to me....you know, no hotel in the town. 779 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:02,079 They need a home too, but we have to look after our own first. 780 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:10,299 I'm Afraid. I am afraid. I'm on me own with two kids down here, and I'm having people that I don't know. 781 01:06:10,299 --> 01:06:14,500 Adrian Shanna is the hotel owner and made the decision to close the hotel and 782 01:06:14,600 --> 01:06:16,200 reopen it as a direct provision centre. 783 01:06:16,300 --> 01:06:19,089 Quite simply, this was a decision taken for commercial reasons 784 01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:24,639 where we took a view that we could stop those losses, or indeed..um..try and turn a profit. 785 01:06:26,359 --> 01:06:32,379 In Ireland, small towns have found themselves at the center of a heated debate about migration 786 01:06:32,690 --> 01:06:38,000 and what European nations owe to those seeking a better life. 787 01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,700 We're kind of a forgotton town at the minute 788 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:55,500 for a county town there's probably.... 789 01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,000 other than a bit of craic, and a few pints 790 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000 there's nothing much in the place. 791 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,000 It was misrepresented to the people of the town, 792 01:07:03,710 --> 01:07:10,000 and that a lot of the migrants who are living in it, are not econ....they're economic migrants rather than 793 01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:15,000 genuine..eh....people who are oppressed, or something of that nature. 794 01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:20,500 I don't know whether that's really true or not, but that is a common....commonly held ..um....belief. 795 01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:23,000 It wasn't a great thing to happen to the town. 796 01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,660 Purely because we have no hotel 797 01:07:26,330 --> 01:07:28,840 but....it's not the right place for these people, 798 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:34,600 they should be in lovely housing apartments where they can do their own cooking, cater for themselves 799 01:07:34,850 --> 01:07:39,000 and just mind themselves. That's all they want to do. 800 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,400 Well I suppose its just....it's your home town. 801 01:07:41,500 --> 01:07:46,509 You don't really want to....you just want to see people having fun, having craic, and a bit 802 01:07:46,510 --> 01:07:51,189 of a laugh....but like we don't have choice in this it's up to the Councilors and all that 803 01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:53,000 they're our voice, but 804 01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:55,400 it just seem to go unnoticed....and like 805 01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:58,000 for a hotel to go in the town 806 01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,500 I just....I don't understand it. 807 01:08:00,860 --> 01:08:03,000 Initially, I mean everybody got a fright 808 01:08:03,710 --> 01:08:05,710 there's no doubt about it. We got a fright. 809 01:08:05,710 --> 01:08:12,400 There was absolutely no notice, and all of a sudden the hotels gone, and we have 100 single men moving in. 810 01:08:12,500 --> 01:08:18,400 No doubt about it, that there's a generally held belief in the town that we're not being looked after properly. 811 01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:20,569 We weren't told.... 812 01:08:20,569 --> 01:08:24,939 and....and it was, it was absolutely disgraceful, but the County Council here, dont start me on it 813 01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:31,700 They are, they're a law unto themselves, and I have to be very careful what I say, because they could sue me. 814 01:08:31,819 --> 01:08:35,000 It just seems to have gone from bad to worse. 815 01:08:37,780 --> 01:08:40,800 The amount of people that are becoming homeless at the moment is unbelievable. 816 01:08:40,900 --> 01:08:45,500 It's heartbreaking to see people coming to you who've been....who are lovely people 817 01:08:45,500 --> 01:08:48,150 and have nowhere to live, and they don't know what to do 818 01:08:48,150 --> 01:08:54,900 and you....and you....you can't, you can't say listen I can get you a house. The rental market's gone sky-high. 819 01:08:55,000 --> 01:09:00,000 The rents are sky-high around Wicklow. So it's....it's not reachable for people. 820 01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,000 I think there's 4000 people on the housing list of Wicklow. 821 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:07,000 Obviously there's been a provisions centre thats opened up in Wicklow, and 822 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,000 a few of the people that we've spoken to have kind of expressed concerns over funding.... 823 01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:15,000 No. Not answering that. No. You dont want to? Not answering that. Not answering that. 824 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,210 OK. Is that just because.... 825 01:09:16,210 --> 01:09:23,000 No, I'm not answering....ehhhhhhhh....I'm not answering it. Can we just stop there for a minute. 826 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:24,000 Of course, of course. 827 01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:32,000 I'm an investigative journalist based in Dublin and 828 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,200 most of my work has been 829 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:41,800 around investigating corruption within the institutions of the State in Ireland. In the past I would have written quite a lot on 830 01:09:41,940 --> 01:09:45,890 the fate of refugees, and I'm talking about genuine refugees 831 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,400 and....to the point that I actually won a national campaigning award 832 01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,400 for my work on the rights of asylum seekers. 833 01:09:54,500 --> 01:09:59,000 So I have been very much, I suppose....um.... 834 01:09:59,130 --> 01:10:01,520 onside with with the plight, of course, 835 01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:06,700 what journalist wouldn't be, of real refugees leaving war zones? 836 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,700 Because we now have a serious housing crisis in Ireland, and we've had it 837 01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:18,700 effectively since the crash in 2008. We never had homelessness per se, 838 01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:20,900 at least as far as I can remember. 839 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:28,129 I grew up in the 70s and 80s when we had a brutal recession, but I never remember people sleeping on our streets. 840 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:35,700 In the last few years, we've got this now in Ireland, and it's shocking and devastating to see 841 01:10:35,730 --> 01:10:42,379 people in a first world, very wealthy country, being reduced to living in tents, etc. 842 01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:48,019 So then when you start to study the statistics, you see that one in three 843 01:10:48,690 --> 01:10:55,730 social housing units is going to a non-national. And then you start to look more closely and you see 844 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:06,000 that a lot of our resources in terms of healthcare, and education, are also being used by people 845 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:12,000 who are coming here, at a time when we are not able to look after our own people properly, 846 01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:19,700 and to me, when I looked at the figures, I have a background in, I studied economics in University, and 847 01:11:19,860 --> 01:11:24,200 when I looked at the figures I said, hang on a minute. What are we doing 848 01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:30,000 inviting the world and its mother into Ireland, when we cannot look after our own people. 849 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:41,000 My name is Mankazana Tshuma. I came from Zimbabwe to Ireland to seek asylum. 850 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:47,160 I left Zimbabwe because of the political situation. 851 01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,770 and because my life was in danger 852 01:11:50,950 --> 01:11:54,000 with the police, so I had to leave the country. 853 01:11:54,500 --> 01:11:57,500 We were protesting with other members 854 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,800 against our former president Gabriel Mugabe 855 01:12:02,030 --> 01:12:06,000 and they thought it was unlawful that we do that. 856 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,649 My life was in danger, as well as 857 01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:13,000 my son's life was in danger, and 858 01:12:13,340 --> 01:12:17,200 it got to an extent, whereby my son even got 859 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:21,800 sexually abused, when he was two and half years old 860 01:12:21,890 --> 01:12:23,330 so.... 861 01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:26,379 that's when I decided I had to do something. 862 01:12:28,010 --> 01:12:31,800 At first I didn't know where I was going I just.... 863 01:12:31,970 --> 01:12:34,500 what I knew was I had to leave the country 864 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:41,300 and I paid a Nigerian guy. I can't remember the exact figure, but it was a lot of money. 865 01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:48,800 I had to pay him to do my passport, which was a fake one, it was not mine. 866 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:55,500 And he bought my ticket as well, and he gave me the ticket and gave me instructions 867 01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:57,600 as to what to do exactly. 868 01:12:58,650 --> 01:13:07,000 I went to South Africa, and when I got to South Africa, I got an agent and 869 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:13,000 that agent helped me to come here and 870 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,110 he only said I was going to, we were to going to 871 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:20,669 Europe, but he didn't say where in Europe. 872 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:28,050 He also gave me instructions that I must tear the documents, 'cause they are not my documents originally 873 01:13:28,050 --> 01:13:36,000 and he also told me that if I arrived here with those documents I could be arrested because this is against the law. 874 01:13:36,250 --> 01:13:42,200 so I tore the documents, and I flushed them in the toilet. 875 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,000 And why was your life in danger? 876 01:13:46,450 --> 01:13:56,000 Because I had a friend that was a lesbian, and she was my best friend, and....um.... 877 01:13:56,140 --> 01:14:01,000 We had like some pictures together, as a friend, 878 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:09,600 though she was known that she was a lesbian, so they assumed I was the partner, and.... 879 01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:16,000 so there were people that were looking for her and.... 880 01:14:16,150 --> 01:14:22,050 that's why they came to me asking about her, and I told them I wasn't her partner so 881 01:14:22,780 --> 01:14:25,600 that's where the whole thing started, 882 01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:30,400 and on the sexual abuse they said, 883 01:14:30,550 --> 01:14:35,500 their way, it was their way of correcting me, 884 01:14:37,540 --> 01:14:40,400 doing what they did to my son. 885 01:14:42,010 --> 01:14:47,400 Most of the people have been welcoming here in Wicklow, but.... 886 01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:51,300 there is some people that are still not yet 887 01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:58,000 opening their arms for us, but we hope at the end, things will be better with them. 888 01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,000 That they will understand us. 889 01:14:59,699 --> 01:15:01,500 I'm grateful because 890 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:08,000 my son got all the help that he needed. He got him....to see Doctors. 891 01:15:08,770 --> 01:15:10,770 Psychologists. 892 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:18,500 If you could give a message to the people of Wicklow, what would you say? 893 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:23,000 Well, I would say..um.. 894 01:15:23,890 --> 01:15:25,890 They have.... 895 01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:34,000 really nothing to worry about when it comes to us, because we are harmless, and we hope that 896 01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:35,920 maybe with time 897 01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:37,500 they will get to accept us. 898 01:15:37,500 --> 01:15:43,200 I feel very nervous yes, because the owners of the land, they're also, they're struggling with their with own 899 01:15:43,300 --> 01:15:49,000 housing, and one more of person, like me, a foreigner, that's coming into their place 900 01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,360 you know, and.... 901 01:15:51,370 --> 01:15:58,229 when I look here sometimes I feel like it's not fair that I've got accommodation and some of them they're living in the streets 902 01:15:58,500 --> 01:15:59,980 you know. 903 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:07,560 You know, not having like more foreigners in your country, or asylum seekers like us, I think, and 904 01:16:07,810 --> 01:16:11,000 then they'll be thinking maybe 905 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:14,000 we'll be getting their jobs in the future 906 01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,400 or with the housing thing 907 01:16:17,500 --> 01:16:20,610 going on now, the crisis, so it's going to be 908 01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:25,500 kind of difficult for them to accept foreigners coming over to....to their place. 909 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:31,280 There are some difficulties. There are some welcoming hands as well. So....because I don't blame them. It's.... 910 01:16:31,300 --> 01:16:37,700 That's exactly who can, whatever we can do, even me in my country, if I see someone who is a foreigner 911 01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:39,910 it's not gonna be easy for me to accept them 912 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:45,950 so I don't, I don't really blame people don't accept us, but 913 01:16:46,530 --> 01:16:48,649 I respect they are.... 914 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,320 I respect them for them for that. 915 01:16:53,949 --> 01:16:58,800 You can't have open borders when you can't look after your own people. 916 01:16:59,110 --> 01:17:05,309 I've spent a lot of time travelling around Ireland in the last few months, talking to communities 917 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:13,109 that....of rural, very rural communities, that feel very threatened. And of course, it's rural Ireland.... 918 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:19,000 Rural Ireland is the heart of Ireland, because our cities have become so 919 01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:25,949 multicultural, that they don't even feel Irish anymore. You go into a shop or a hotel and the chances are you will not 920 01:17:25,949 --> 01:17:27,849 be served by an Irish person 921 01:17:27,849 --> 01:17:32,879 so rural Ireland is where you get the real Ireland still. So people are very frightened, 922 01:17:32,949 --> 01:17:40,618 if you speak out in any way shape or form against migration in this country, you are immediately called a racist 923 01:17:41,530 --> 01:17:45,000 a fascist, a Neo-Nazi, it's disgusting 924 01:17:45,670 --> 01:17:49,700 but this is all being done because there's big money behind 925 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:53,610 mass immigration into Ireland, as there is across Europe. 926 01:17:53,610 --> 01:18:01,110 This is all about money, because these people don't care about the migrants who come here and end up homeless. 927 01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:03,200 So....um.... 928 01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:05,200 It's terrifying for rural, Ireland. 929 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:11,789 Terrifying. And they see their towns and villages changing utterly. They see Mosques going up 930 01:18:12,639 --> 01:18:13,690 they see.... 931 01:18:13,690 --> 01:18:18,539 you know....things, that to them are just completely alien, and they feel.... 932 01:18:19,030 --> 01:18:22,500 they feel under attack and they have every reason to. 933 01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:28,860 We have one tiny little island....Okay....to call home. That's all we have. 934 01:18:28,860 --> 01:18:31,110 We never went and colonized anywhere 935 01:18:31,260 --> 01:18:37,380 we just have that. We have 60 million in America who claim Irish heritage 936 01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:45,240 and even though many of them, or their parents, or grandparents, were forced to leave, because we have always had a history of emigration 937 01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:51,300 they would someday like to come back here, and their children, and their grandchildren, and their great-grandchildren 938 01:18:51,369 --> 01:18:55,288 and they have a right to come back and claim their Irish heritage. 939 01:18:55,809 --> 01:18:58,900 We have many millions more living in the UK, 940 01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:06,649 Australia, and New Zealand, and across the world, and they too have a right to call this island home. 941 01:19:06,649 --> 01:19:07,620 So....um.... 942 01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:11,700 I'm sorry, no disrespect, but Ireland 943 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:17,400 primarily should be for the Irish people, due to the nature of our very unique culture. 944 01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:23,150 The fact that we were colonized for nearly a millennium by the British. 945 01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:25,500 We fought hard for our independence. 946 01:19:25,650 --> 01:19:31,300 Now we have it - a hundred years, and what are we doing [with] it? Giving it away again. 947 01:19:31,300 --> 01:19:33,050 Makes no sense. 948 01:20:01,850 --> 01:20:05,500 It's a mistake....big mistake. It was a big mistake. 949 01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,200 Do you regret leaving Afghanistan? 950 01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,000 Yeah. 951 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:23,000 We weren't told. It was....it was absolutely disgraceful. 952 01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:26,000 One day you can have 500 person 953 01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,000 It's the best country. The best country 954 01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,500 I want to go 955 01:20:32,170 --> 01:20:34,620 When you cross you never come back 956 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,469 I just....I dont understand it 957 01:20:38,290 --> 01:20:41,220 It's a business. I think it's a business 958 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,500 It's heartbreaking 959 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,500 A big mistake....a big mistake. It was a big mistake. 960 01:21:05,889 --> 01:21:11,459 Going into this, I thought I had some understanding of the migration crisis 961 01:21:12,370 --> 01:21:15,600 coming from a political background, from a journalism background 962 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:20,730 having read the material, looked at the studies, spent a lot of time talking about it 963 01:21:20,730 --> 01:21:28,200 I really thought I had a better understanding of this issue than most people, and I think there is a cultural pressure 964 01:21:28,300 --> 01:21:31,500 for people in general to pretend 965 01:21:31,630 --> 01:21:35,000 they understand these giant crises we're dealing with 966 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:40,049 and to offer solutions to them, even when we don't have them, and I can tell you right now 967 01:21:40,050 --> 01:21:42,050 being on the ground for four months 968 01:21:42,130 --> 01:21:48,900 meeting these people, being in the middle of these shipments, these NGO operations, the camps.... 969 01:21:49,719 --> 01:21:51,719 all I have discovered.... 970 01:21:51,719 --> 01:21:52,929 is.... 971 01:21:52,929 --> 01:21:59,000 this is all so much more gray than I ever could have imagined. 972 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,500 Are these people invaders? 973 01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:03,750 Are they intent on destroying the Western world? 974 01:22:04,270 --> 01:22:11,370 No. A lot of them are like you and me, just born in very unfortunate countries with unfortunate situations 975 01:22:12,070 --> 01:22:14,580 that they have hopes and dreams of leaving. 976 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,800 Are they refugees? 977 01:22:18,699 --> 01:22:26,000 I Can't sit here and lie to you and pretend that they were. A lot of the people I met, I think the majority, 978 01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,000 [were] from countries that weren't in war. People that had enough money 979 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:36,120 to be able to buy a ticket to get on these boats, who had sold houses that they owned in their 980 01:22:36,190 --> 01:22:39,000 home country, who had businesses in their home country, 981 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,500 but....they certainly weren't coming 982 01:22:43,810 --> 01:22:46,300 for the sole purpose of just 983 01:22:47,050 --> 01:22:51,200 invading the West, pillaging its resources, or.... 984 01:22:51,670 --> 01:22:56,300 because they wanted to escape some sort of terror. And this is the....these are the narratives 985 01:22:56,300 --> 01:23:01,700 that are sold to us by the media - that they are either escaping terror or coming to pillage Europe. 986 01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:04,500 The truth is, they have been sold a lie. 987 01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:10,619 Human traffickers, the media, how they portray Europe to these people, is....it is a paradise 988 01:23:10,900 --> 01:23:14,000 These migrants truly believe they are coming to paradise. 989 01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,700 You know, you have all these people who are 990 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,400 constantly chanting open borders. 991 01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:22,400 Who want to help, who 992 01:23:22,540 --> 01:23:28,000 genuinely in their hearts believe they are doing good, and they show up at train stations holding signs that say 993 01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,410 refugees welcome. 994 01:23:29,410 --> 01:23:36,300 They knit them blankets. They bring them baskets of food, and they just think that bringing these people in is 995 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:44,700 the most humanitarian and beautiful thing that you can do, for both Europe, and these migrants 996 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:47,020 but............. 997 01:23:47,020 --> 01:23:52,500 Where are they when the cold French winter sets in? 998 01:23:52,660 --> 01:23:59,000 Where are they when these people are sleeping under bridges and living on the streets? 999 01:23:59,300 --> 01:24:02,300 And eventually when we figure it all out 1000 01:24:02,470 --> 01:24:11,000 you're gonna have a very broken and poor Europe, and a lot of hungry, homeless, lost and 1001 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:14,900 displaced people, who were sold a lie. 1002 01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:20,000 And a lot of very wealthy evil men. 1003 01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:27,200 And this....this is the story that I didn't expect to find going on the ground, 1004 01:24:27,300 --> 01:24:29,500 but....it's what we got. 1005 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,000 The story of a borderless Europe is one where nobody wins. 1006 01:24:51,000 --> 01:24:54,000 If you enjoyed this documentary.... 1007 01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,000 support Lauren's work. 1008 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:02,000 Assuming she hasn't been de-platformed.... 1009 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:06,000 from every payment processor.... 1010 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:10,000 by the time you see this. 95867

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