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(soldiers running)
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(explosion)
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- Serge, I'd like to just take
you back to the beginning,
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to the beginning of the-
- Ah!
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You should
remember one thing.
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I want you to
speak slowly, clearly
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in order to allow my
brain to get the real sense
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of what you are
intending to get from me.
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- Okay.
- Got it?
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- Got it.
- Okay, good.
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- Serge, when you
remember your childhood.
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- Yeah, I told you, you
have to speak loudly
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because I don't hear
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but I want you to speak
slowly and loudly on purpose.
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I am pushing you, I'm
squeezing you, I'm cornering you
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you know why?
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Because by cornering you, I
can abuse your brain my way.
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Okay? Okay.
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- What do you think shaped you
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in your formative years?
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- You know,
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your character is
shaped every day
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by any thing which
happens to you.
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When I was seven,
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I asked my parents, "Why
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did you give me birth
without my permission?
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You did not ask me to come."
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They answered, "Serge, we
did not know it would be you."
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So this is how I discovered
that I was forced to live
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against my will and this has
been going on for 75 years.
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(dramatic music)
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Wine does not care
about war or no war,
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because yeast makes the wine
even if people are fighting.
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What is older, the
wine or humanity?
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Because the fruit was there,
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the juice was there.
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If the juice should
leak on the ground,
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it will ferment and
it will become wine.
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So wine made
itself before humans.
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When humanity started
understanding wine
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instead of being nomads, where
they would take their sheep
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and they would
have their wheat
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and they would
move to another place,
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wine forced them to settle.
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This is why we
started civilization.
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(stirring string music)
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- For us, today, this
is a major discovery
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because this is the
first built wine press
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and the first built treading
floor that we know of.
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- It's a winery, it's a winery.
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I'm impressed not by
that they were making wine
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but by the quality of the vat.
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- Exactly, exactly.
- Unbelievable, unbelievable.
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- What is also
interesting is that
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in the two shipwrecks
that they found
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off the shore of Ashkelon.
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- Yes, yes, yes.
- Some years ago.
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They found them, they
were filled with amphorae
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of the 7th century BC.
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They contained wine
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and the amphorae were
Phoenician amphorae
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and they presumed that
they were taking wine
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from here to Egypt
and they were shipwrecked.
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- This just means
that they have reached
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a certain technique
and a certain...
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a sophisticated wine
making technique.
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- Here we have
for the first time
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a huge platform.
- A big vat.
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This is work.
- This is work.
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This is industry.
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- Yeah, so this is quite...
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- Impressive.
- Yeah.
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- This is a
magnificent piece of art
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and this is clear evidence
that they had the know how.
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The product that is
made from this vat
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is extremely important for us.
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What they had as resources
and what we have now
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they still had many
things in advance.
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(sound of waves)
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- We still need to uncover,
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to investigate archeological
sites in Lebanon
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because there has
been hardly any regular
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scientific archeological
work since
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the beginning of the
Lebanese War in 1975.
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Now during the war
because of its location,
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in front of the sea this
was a very nice area.
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When we came we
saw that there have been
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several trenches,
man made trenches
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by militias, by people who
were trying to loot the site
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and all they hit were
earth and pebbles.
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So they abandoned
the site and this is how
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the site was preserved
for us to come
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and start regular excavations.
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- Ever since I started, my first
excavation was in Lebanon...
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we have been under
the gun, as it were.
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(pensive music)
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Our site was located
south of Sidon
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where there was a
major Palestinian camp,
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so we were about
five kilometers away.
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You might think,
"Oh, well, you know
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this is going to
be beautiful", right?
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The sun's coming up, it was
a beautiful Mediterranean day
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every day, though, we would
have an attack by F-15 jets,
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from the Israeli Air Force
base, called Ramat David.
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Well, the place we had lived
in, in Israel was Ramat David.
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That was-It's right next
to the main air force base
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and every night when we
lived there the previous year,
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we would hear the jets
taking off to hit Lebanon,
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and the Palestinian
camp and then now
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here I was on the
other side of the border
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watching dogfights
up in the sky
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and planes even
coming down and
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you could see the bombs dropping
down on the Palestinian camp
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and just huge explosions
and then they would shoot out
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over the Mediterranean
and be gone.
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And then you hear
the ambulances.
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Well, what was so sad, really
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was that the ambulances
would get into the camp
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maybe 20 minutes, 25
minutes after the attack
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and they were pulling out
the bodies, which you'd see
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in the front page of the
Beirut paper the next day.
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This was never reported
in the West, by the way
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and then as the ambulances
were pulling the injured out,
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the F-15s would
make a second strike.
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(airplane flying overhead)
(missiles firing, exploding)
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So they were coming out
just when the ambulances
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were taking the injured
away, and that always
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really affected
me, but the most...
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awful experience I suppose
I had was my wife was up
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in Turkey the whole time,
living in a Turkish village
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and she came down on
the day of the largest attack
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that I'd ever seen.
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Well, she didn't know
what to do, so she ran out
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onto the ancient pier
that runs out to the castle
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there in Sidon, and she
was alongside Palestinians
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with machine guns as the
planes came shooting over
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at about 20 feet
above her head,
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so she could look eye to
eye into the eyes of an Israeli
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pilot as they came in,
and then the Palestinian
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had his machine gun out,
trying to knock down this plane
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that's going pretty fast.
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Despite these attacks I
described in the south,
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it's an absolutely
amazing site.
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So it was a sad thing
when the civil war came.
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There's a lot left to
learn about Lebanon
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as I have already mentioned
because of the civil war
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and the problems associated
with working in Lebanon
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as an archeologist,
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relatively few excavations
have been carried out
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in the last 20 or 30 years.
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I had great affection
for Lebanon because
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they're entrepreneurial,
certainly,
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competitive, but also...
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a wonderful place
to be because
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the people are
extremely friendly
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and, they have such good food.
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All the surrounding
countries, we have
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multiple excavations
going on, but nothing quite
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as extraordinary, I don't
think as the Lebanese coast.
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There has always
been war, right
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in the Middle East,
especially in Lebanon
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which is at the
crossroads of so much.
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This is just a continuation of
what's been going on forever
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and they've been
producing wine there forever.
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When humans first
came out of Africa
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about a million years ago
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the first place they
would have seen
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the grape is Lebanon.
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They would have been fascinated
by vines growing all the way up
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the tall cedar of Lebanon trees.
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They would see the grapes
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climbing their
way right to the sky
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you know, almost to heaven
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and they must've been
absolutely amazed at this fruit
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but this grape happens
to be ideal for making wine
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because once you squash
the grape and get the juice out
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you've got the perfect
medium for the yeast
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that are living on the
outside of this high sugar fruit
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to get active and make wine.
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So it wouldn't have been
hard for the early humans,
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our ancestors
coming out of Africa
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to figure out how to make wine.
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(flute and guitar music)
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And I think this was
a very large motivator
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to humans having
year round settlements
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and once you've got
year round settlements,
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then you're gonna
get increasingly more
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complex societies developing.
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So I see that this fermented
beverage is really contributing
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greatly to the rise of
permanent cultures
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in settlements
that then lead on
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into more advanced
civilization.
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(stirring string and
accordion music)
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Around 3000 BC,
when we get our first
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literary records
of the Canaanites,
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and when we really
see that the Canaanites,
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who are based in
the Levant in Lebanon,
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are very active
in wine making.
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The Canaanite merchants
could be real entrepreneurs.
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I mean, they could
come in and show off
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their wares and
entice the local rulers
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with this new beverage
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and they're the
first wine merchants.
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By the time we get
down to the Egyptians
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of around 3100 BC, we have
wine being imported into Egypt
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from the Canaanite territories.
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And the Canaanites were
experts in wine making already,
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so it was quite logical
to import the wine at first
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and so the king, one
of the first kings of Egypt
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Scorpion I, he brought in
700 very large amphorae
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or jars of wine and in
fact, the amphora itself
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was invented by the Canaanites
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and it's often called
the Canaanite jar.
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Wine is a poetic
product, you could say
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it has all the different
flavors and aromas
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that you associate
with memories
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and it opens up your
mind to other possibilities
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it's a mind-altering
substance, so...
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A lot of what we are as humans
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is trying to take our minds
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and wrap it around
all the mysteries
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that exist in the universe.
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The Canaanite wine
was "drunk day and night"
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the "fine wine of
the Canaanites",
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and especially the gods
were very involved in this,
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so they often overindulged a bit
and so we have textual evidence
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that sometimes they went
home, rather sick, you could say
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and we have very vivid
accounts of their drunkenness.
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Drunkenness is a
way to make contact
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with the gods and
with the ancestors.
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(upbeat Middle Eastern music)
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Coming back to a place
that has gone through war
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was a real experience.
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Every weekend we
would go to Beirut,
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have parties on the rooftops
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and the people
were very friendly.
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So I think of the Lebanese
today as very much
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like the Lebanese of antiquity.
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It carries on, I think, a lot
of the traditions
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that have been there
for many millennia.
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(dramatic music)
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If Lebanon wasn't in
a constant state of war
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we might be able to get
a lot more information
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about these early periods.
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The site of Baalbek was
set up by Antoninus Pius,
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who came from Carthage.
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Even though he's a Roman
emperor, he had his roots
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in the Phoenician
colony of Carthage
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so he probably would have
worshipped Bacchus too.
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The temple to Bacchus is
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probably one of
the best preserved
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classical buildings
anywhere and it has beautiful
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grapevine motifs
and some poppy
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or opium type motifs.
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- Bacchus was the god of wine.
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During the survey, in the
western part of Baalbek
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we find a lot of wine
presses but we didn't find
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a lot of material
for exportation
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which means wine
was used by locals.
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Because we didn't find the
amphora jars for exportation.
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But in fact, we know that
according to some mythology,
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according to some legends
that it was very special,
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this party in Baalbek.
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Wine is part of the ceremony.
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- The first commercial
wine came from Lebanon.
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This is where the
Romans put their god,
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where they get
the best results
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and that's what would happen
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they put Bacchus in the Bekaa,
it's not me who is saying it
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it's the great Roman
Empire, who did make wine all
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over the world, the Old World,
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and they chose to put Bacchus
in the temple of Baalbek.
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The great civilizations
that say, this is the region
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where you can plant grapes,
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this is the Bordeaux
of the Old World.
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- The Romans liked to take their
gods into the furthest corner
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of their empire and
the Bekaa Valley
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was an agricultural area
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in which the cult of Bacchus
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that revolved around
the seasonal cycle
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of planting and
harvesting and resurrection
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was very powerful.
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- People in this period,
the Pagan Period,
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they believed more about
the power of wine and gods.
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(pensive music)
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(music continues)
(muffled, echoing hammer blows)
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When we heard the first
time about Daesh and ISIS
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and the problem
and what they did,
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the aggressivity behind
something like Palmyra.
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(eerie music)
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(explosion)
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I'm afraid because they
can do the same here.
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I think we are lucky.
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(eerie music)
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(light music)
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- The first thing you will
understand in the Bacchus temple
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that it was a temple
for weed, wine and sex
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and that was happening
2,000 years ago.
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The beautiful terroir of Baalbek
is at 1,000 meters altitude,
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where we decided to plant
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Grenache Noir
and Grenache Blanc
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just in front of cannabis.
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I think it's still too far for
Lebanon to take that decision
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in legalizing the weed because
I was called by this region
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to advise them in
order to plant grapes
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instead of cannabis.
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People decided to try some
crops other than the cannabis
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because cannabis was always
a risky crop in that area.
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If I wasn't from
the Bekaa Valley
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and if I wasn't
with these genes,
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if I call them
genes of the war,
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I would never accept to do
such a project in that area
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in Baalbek, which is known
for its dangerous reputation.
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And with a bit of luck,
because we are lucky people
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although we are in the
middle of a war zone,
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we are lucky people to
have this beautiful nature
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that gives us so much
potential in growing vines,
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producing wines
and telling the story.
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(light music)
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- Lebanon has been
a country of refuge
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than a country of population.
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Lebanon's population has
been constituted by refugees
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since the inception
of Lebanon.
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We are a combination of
population from the whole world,
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from the whole religions
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I usually tell, okay, in the
States you are a melting pot
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but you are the
last melting pot.
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In Lebanon, we are the
first melting pot of humanity,
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and this is why in Lebanon,
even with the situation we have
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we are accepting the millions
of Syrians coming to Lebanon.
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So this is why to say,
Lebanon is not a country
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it's the country of
the whole world.
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(birds squawking)
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- Dad would say,
"Look at the ruby color
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isn't that beautiful?"
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The situation in Lebanon
today is very hard,
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with a...
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next war situation,
or call it whatever,
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but I don't look
at it that way.
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My only conviction
is to my family.
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My father was a general
in the Lebanese Army
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and I looked up at him
like my hero, my hero.
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At the age of 11, he
put a gun in my hands
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and he said, "It's gonna...
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send you back a little but you
try to stay as firm as you can
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and you shoot in the middle.
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It's like if you are
shooting somebody
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between the eyes, you got it?"
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I said, "Yes, Dad,
I'm gonna do my best."
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I enjoyed it actually.
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It's a terrible thing to
tell a child of 11 to do that
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but he meant it.
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To have
his daughters be strong
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and up to any situation
life would bring you along.
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He prepared us, actually
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it has always been part
of my life, wine and war.
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We are four sisters and I
was the one who liked best
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to be next to him and
to enjoy making wine.
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And that was a dream
of his which came true.
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I loved the idea of
him starting a winery
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and he didn't need
to be encouraged
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he was so passionate
about everything he did
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well, sad enough, he left us...
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and since then I took it upon
myself to continue his heritage.
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I'm very proud of
having a dad like this
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and for me to
carry on his legacy
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wasn't an easy thing.
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I don't know whether to say
that a woman in a man's world
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is an easy task, but
it was worth trying.
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- Today, if you
were to name one
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winery in the region
or in the near region
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that is really having to fight
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to get its wines made
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it has got to be Domaine
de Bargylus in Syria.
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The owners had
a wonderful vision
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about making a Syrian wine
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and even getting praise from
the likes of Jancis Robinson
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who says Domaine
de Bargylus is arguably
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the best red wine in the
Eastern Mediterranean today
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and this wine is being
made in a civil war!
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How does that work?
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(tanks rumbling)
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- We've inherited a
region of instability.
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Back in 2003, when we
decided to plant the first vines
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in Syria and almost at
the same time in Lebanon.
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We loved the idea that
being from Syria and Lebanon
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we could actually do
wine in both countries
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because let's not
forget that doing wine
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and planting a vineyard
is also a statement
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of implanting yourself
on a very long term.
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When you plant a vine,
I think you're saying
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I'm here to stay.
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00:25:28,018 --> 00:25:30,768
(dramatic music)
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When the war started in
Syria, there was a moment
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of questioning whether
we could be able to continue
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producing there, and
what we did later on is adapt...
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(explosion)
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because the most important
thing for us was to continue
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producing high quality
wine and also keeping
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the people who worked
for us in the winery
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because around
them everybody left.
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One day we get a call
from our engineer in Syria
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and he tells us that
people are fighting
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just 500 meters
away from the winery.
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That moment was really
putting in question everything.
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We didn't know if we've
lost the whole installations
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the winery, the vineyard
and also the people
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who worked for us, we
had about three or four hours
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where we didn't
have any contact.
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00:26:30,038 --> 00:26:32,118
Everything could
have happened.
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It's been at least five years
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that we haven't been
going to Syria, to our winery.
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00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:53,584
We are producing
wine without going there
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and it's critical to
taste the grapes
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before we determine
the dates of the harvest
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and what we do is we
ship by taxi the little grapes
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00:27:03,579 --> 00:27:06,079
and we taste them here
in this conference room.
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And this involves a lot of
time and a lot of challenges
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and we're doing wine
when all odds are against us.
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00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:18,479
So all is managed over the
phone and through contacts
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00:27:18,503 --> 00:27:21,166
and communications and
this is even more difficult.
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00:27:22,048 --> 00:27:23,311
It's almost impossible.
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When we turn off
the lights, hoping
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00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:32,846
that the next day wouldn't
be worse than this one
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it's relatively a good thing.
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00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:40,710
- It's not normal, that
we suffer in Lebanon
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of whatever
happens in the area.
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00:27:43,065 --> 00:27:44,795
Why is it Lebanon?
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Because we are small,
because we are more open,
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00:27:48,115 --> 00:27:51,355
because we have the sympathy
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of all countries to interfere
in our internal affairs
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00:27:55,857 --> 00:27:58,519
I don't know, the
mosaic of communities
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00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,978
certainly is a factor.
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00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:03,330
We have a lot of
Christian communities.
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00:28:03,381 --> 00:28:05,692
Shia, Sunni, Druze
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00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:06,937
Alawites, et cetera.
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00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:12,358
Our strength is this
multitude of communities
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00:28:12,641 --> 00:28:15,679
because when it
works, it works so well.
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00:28:16,144 --> 00:28:19,948
Sometimes it doesn't work and
you know how the medias are
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they always emphasize
on trouble, on problems
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00:28:23,817 --> 00:28:26,858
and they don't talk of
the beautiful aspect of life.
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I would assure you that I
don't know one foreigner
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regardless of his nationality,
who didn't come to Lebanon
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00:28:35,027 --> 00:28:37,626
and who didn't fall in
love with our country.
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A country with such
a high civilization,
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with a lot of culture,
with a lot of history,
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00:28:43,951 --> 00:28:48,556
with a wonderful climate and
our duty as wine producers,
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00:28:48,581 --> 00:28:52,431
as business people, as
people who believe in Lebanon
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is to change this idea
people have about Lebanon.
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00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:59,634
We are sure one
day peace will prevail
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00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:02,726
and Lebanon will
regain its importance
461
00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:05,952
in the Middle East, not
to say in the whole world.
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00:29:07,044 --> 00:29:09,461
(soft music)
463
00:29:11,658 --> 00:29:15,148
- We are an area that
has been invaded over
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2,500 years by all
types of invaders
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00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:20,890
and that changed the culture.
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00:29:21,418 --> 00:29:24,355
When today we
talk about our wine,
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00:29:24,379 --> 00:29:27,896
people's first impression
is they're surprised.
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00:29:27,921 --> 00:29:29,012
"Don't you have war?"
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00:29:29,968 --> 00:29:32,000
We say, "Yeah, we had war."
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00:29:32,350 --> 00:29:34,989
But one has to be
realistic, you know?
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00:29:36,739 --> 00:29:38,829
You'd better be
careful of what you do
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00:29:38,854 --> 00:29:41,387
or where you go
or follow news...
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00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:47,166
But anything can happen,
we are living on a volcano.
474
00:29:54,367 --> 00:29:58,017
- We live in a part of the
world that has been invaded
475
00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:03,163
and conquered and
fought over continuously
476
00:30:03,376 --> 00:30:05,640
from the Crusaders
to the Mamluks
477
00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:08,481
to the Ottoman
Empire, to the French,
478
00:30:08,505 --> 00:30:11,680
to the Lebanese civil
war, to Israeli conflicts,
479
00:30:11,705 --> 00:30:13,989
post civil war and now
we've even got ISIS
480
00:30:14,014 --> 00:30:15,364
knocking on our front door.
481
00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:19,108
We live in a bad neighborhood,
we live in a neighborhood
482
00:30:19,142 --> 00:30:22,672
with Israel to the south,
we've now got a war-torn Syria
483
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,588
to our east and even
within our own society
484
00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:28,346
there's a lot of conflict,
there's a lot of tension,
485
00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:29,713
there's a lot of friction.
486
00:30:30,052 --> 00:30:32,232
And staying with this, I think
487
00:30:32,257 --> 00:30:34,383
one of the most
remarkable stories
488
00:30:34,407 --> 00:30:36,057
in the history of the
Lebanese wine industry
489
00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:38,885
has got to be the
story of Serge Hochar
490
00:30:38,912 --> 00:30:42,042
who is arguably one of
the famous winemakers
491
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,268
of his generation.
492
00:30:43,526 --> 00:30:47,539
Not only did he put Lebanon's
flag on the world wine map,
493
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,433
he made a remarkable wine.
494
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:54,503
One of the most remarkable
wines you're ever likely
495
00:30:54,528 --> 00:30:56,589
to taste, be it the
red or the white.
496
00:30:57,625 --> 00:31:01,255
And he had an intrinsic
understanding between wine
497
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,266
and humanity and in that
respect, he was a guru
498
00:31:04,604 --> 00:31:06,914
I mean, Serge was a
war hero in the respect that
499
00:31:06,939 --> 00:31:11,839
he was picking his grapes
under the guns of every militia
500
00:31:11,864 --> 00:31:14,454
in the world: there were the
Syrians, there were the Israelis
501
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,592
there were the Palestinians,
There was the Baader Meinhof
502
00:31:16,616 --> 00:31:18,248
there was the
Japanese Red Army.
503
00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:20,834
When people opened a
bottle in London or in New York
504
00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:23,979
or in Tokyo, they
were uncorking conflict
505
00:31:24,004 --> 00:31:28,334
there was a whiff of war
in every bottle of wine
506
00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:31,879
that they opened, Serge was
a magician on so many fronts,
507
00:31:32,802 --> 00:31:35,935
and Lebanon had a giant.
508
00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:42,376
- If you are a "fear person"
509
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,883
if you have fear, you
are a dead person.
510
00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:50,668
My father had no
clue about wine
511
00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:53,009
and he started the winery.
512
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,803
My father wanted me to be
in the winery, I did not want.
513
00:31:58,001 --> 00:32:00,173
I wanted to be a
monk in the mountains.
514
00:32:00,825 --> 00:32:01,861
Yeah.
515
00:32:03,163 --> 00:32:04,651
I wanted to be on my own.
516
00:32:06,124 --> 00:32:07,184
Do nothing.
517
00:32:08,251 --> 00:32:11,352
My father forced me and
because I was the eldest
518
00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:14,122
in the family, I had to
accept the responsibility.
519
00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:16,173
And when I came to the winery,
520
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,696
for the harvest, the
first day the truck arrived
521
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,934
I tasted the juice, it
was good, I did taste it.
522
00:32:25,305 --> 00:32:28,572
Two days later, it
started to be sparkling,
523
00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,816
it started to have
bubbles into it,
524
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,827
so I was wondering what it was.
525
00:32:32,941 --> 00:32:35,710
I understood that this
was the miracle of the wine,
526
00:32:35,737 --> 00:32:37,147
the miracle of life.
527
00:32:37,402 --> 00:32:39,545
This is why I became
a believer in life.
528
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:41,632
Okay?
529
00:32:43,192 --> 00:32:46,192
Being a believer, doesn't
mean you are religious.
530
00:32:46,308 --> 00:32:48,975
(bells ringing)
531
00:32:52,337 --> 00:32:57,178
- When I came back from making
wine in Palestine and Israel,
532
00:32:57,735 --> 00:33:02,141
I was convinced that
wine was a good substance.
533
00:33:04,381 --> 00:33:10,379
We should learn about
it, love it and drink it.
534
00:33:14,151 --> 00:33:19,401
If it is abused in
order to get drunk,
535
00:33:20,532 --> 00:33:22,514
then it can be used for war.
536
00:33:22,657 --> 00:33:28,540
But if wine is used as an
essence of nature to be happy,
537
00:33:28,581 --> 00:33:32,834
it becomes a product
for peace and not war.
538
00:33:35,564 --> 00:33:39,691
Since the 1960's, the
Lebanese church wanted
539
00:33:39,716 --> 00:33:44,988
the Trappist monks to
become established in Lebanon.
540
00:33:46,008 --> 00:33:47,851
We never responded
to their request
541
00:33:47,876 --> 00:33:50,499
until the civil war started.
542
00:33:51,436 --> 00:33:52,925
When I came to Lebanon,
543
00:33:52,949 --> 00:33:55,692
I introduced
myself to the Patriarch Khreich
544
00:33:55,721 --> 00:33:58,358
who asked me a question...
545
00:33:59,556 --> 00:34:01,655
"We have been asking
you to come for a long time
546
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,022
why have you just come
now in the midst of war?
547
00:34:06,267 --> 00:34:12,531
You won't get
out of here alive.
548
00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:17,437
Why couldn't you have
come when there was peace?"
549
00:34:18,799 --> 00:34:22,483
There was something
more than shells
550
00:34:22,508 --> 00:34:25,847
and destruction
that brought me here.
551
00:34:26,742 --> 00:34:30,729
God asked me to
sow peace in Lebanon.
552
00:34:31,142 --> 00:34:34,060
So I took action, and that's
553
00:34:34,105 --> 00:34:40,111
when I decided to be a
symbol of unity in the country.
554
00:34:44,783 --> 00:34:46,882
- Day by day,
Israeli war planes
555
00:34:46,910 --> 00:34:49,648
have bombed the
Palestinian quarter of Beirut.
556
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,874
Visions of fear and
destruction from the heavens
557
00:34:53,899 --> 00:34:56,262
a justice that seems
less than divine.
558
00:35:00,382 --> 00:35:03,422
- In the beginning, none of us
559
00:35:03,447 --> 00:35:06,179
thought that it
would last so long.
560
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:10,349
Of course, we were
optimistic, saying that fine
561
00:35:10,392 --> 00:35:13,892
it's part of the
conflicts that are part
562
00:35:13,917 --> 00:35:18,333
of the political
life of this country
563
00:35:18,358 --> 00:35:21,918
but no one thought that
it would come to a point
564
00:35:21,943 --> 00:35:24,916
where we would be
unable to reach even
565
00:35:24,941 --> 00:35:27,484
where the winery
and fields were.
566
00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:31,010
The communities
amongst themselves
567
00:35:31,035 --> 00:35:36,318
did not used to hate each other,
this happened out of the blue.
568
00:35:36,418 --> 00:35:41,418
When the tribes that
live in the Bekaa Valley
569
00:35:41,443 --> 00:35:45,353
started taking active
part in the conflict
570
00:35:45,378 --> 00:35:49,088
it became, unfortunately,
a kind of ethnic
571
00:35:49,113 --> 00:35:53,413
religious war and very soon
572
00:35:53,438 --> 00:35:56,548
there was no more anything
573
00:35:56,573 --> 00:35:59,926
which could be
called a country.
574
00:36:04,193 --> 00:36:07,393
It was in the
mountains of Sofar
575
00:36:07,418 --> 00:36:11,738
and those militias
surrounded my car.
576
00:36:11,763 --> 00:36:14,476
"What are you doing here", I
said, "It's the end of the month
577
00:36:14,501 --> 00:36:17,914
and I have to pay the
wages of the people."
578
00:36:18,124 --> 00:36:21,323
They said, "Are you going
to think that we will believe
579
00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:25,053
that you can expose
yourself to such danger
580
00:36:25,077 --> 00:36:28,474
and go to pay the
people and their wages?
581
00:36:28,997 --> 00:36:30,989
Then, obviously
you are a spy."
582
00:36:31,215 --> 00:36:33,968
Of course, the
sentence was death.
583
00:36:36,535 --> 00:36:39,938
They entrusted me to
the care of one of them.
584
00:36:40,816 --> 00:36:45,816
I had to go with him because
he had his gun in my back.
585
00:36:48,016 --> 00:36:51,216
By that time we arrived
at the place where
586
00:36:51,241 --> 00:36:53,244
he decided to shoot me.
587
00:36:54,537 --> 00:36:56,797
I was very calm,
I don't know why.
588
00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,633
But I was expecting the
589
00:36:59,668 --> 00:37:01,289
(makes gun firing sound)
(laughs)
590
00:37:01,378 --> 00:37:02,391
to shoot me,
591
00:37:03,505 --> 00:37:07,438
and it seems, well, my
time had not yet come.
592
00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:14,261
Someone came out of the
tent, which they had there
593
00:37:14,474 --> 00:37:17,954
and it happened to
be the man from whom
594
00:37:17,979 --> 00:37:22,407
we had rented
our house in Sofar
595
00:37:23,245 --> 00:37:27,478
and he knew that I
was a friend of a certain
596
00:37:27,503 --> 00:37:29,003
Kamal Jumblatt,
597
00:37:29,406 --> 00:37:33,803
who was a very important
man of their community
598
00:37:34,161 --> 00:37:35,728
and he said, "What
are you doing?
599
00:37:35,807 --> 00:37:39,202
This man is very important,
he's the very close friend of
600
00:37:39,227 --> 00:37:40,651
Kamal Jumblatt,
601
00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:41,905
and you will
have to pay for it."
602
00:37:43,044 --> 00:37:45,565
He said, "Okay,
okay, let him go."
603
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:48,607
They kept the car
but they let me go.
604
00:37:52,305 --> 00:37:54,198
- Once a war starts,
you must understand
605
00:37:54,222 --> 00:37:56,224
that it can last for 20 years
606
00:37:56,249 --> 00:37:59,089
so you have to plan, today
607
00:37:59,114 --> 00:38:01,284
all the future of the winery
608
00:38:01,309 --> 00:38:03,712
keeping in mind that
it will take 20 years.
609
00:38:07,394 --> 00:38:10,590
This is how I understood
that Lebanon is a country
610
00:38:10,614 --> 00:38:11,914
which is always
611
00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:17,840
in a situation of unrest,
peace, unrest, peace
612
00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:20,258
but once you have
unrest, it can last for long.
613
00:38:20,415 --> 00:38:24,435
My philosophy was to look
for markets outside Lebanon
614
00:38:24,517 --> 00:38:29,517
because in 1975, our sales
in Lebanon dropped by 90%.
615
00:38:30,971 --> 00:38:33,810
The characteristic in the
genes of Lebanese people
616
00:38:33,835 --> 00:38:36,685
has been to fight for survival
617
00:38:36,723 --> 00:38:38,342
elsewhere from their country.
618
00:38:38,934 --> 00:38:42,209
And I started
tasting the world
619
00:38:42,234 --> 00:38:44,037
and this is when I
came back to Lebanon
620
00:38:44,061 --> 00:38:46,445
and I understood that Lebanon
was a little bit different
621
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:47,561
from the rest of the world.
622
00:38:47,818 --> 00:38:50,698
So I decided to continue
myself making wine
623
00:38:50,723 --> 00:38:54,467
until the day war will finish
and I will see what I'll do.
624
00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:58,631
- The horizon was
very cloudy in Lebanon.
625
00:38:59,246 --> 00:39:02,733
It wasn't easy,
it was very costly.
626
00:39:02,758 --> 00:39:05,158
We sat, we discussed it
together and said, "Look...
627
00:39:07,295 --> 00:39:08,755
What are the
options?"
628
00:39:09,595 --> 00:39:11,675
No risk-taking
629
00:39:12,512 --> 00:39:15,856
or why not play the game?
As both ourselves were of the
630
00:39:15,881 --> 00:39:18,903
same character, "Why not,
let's do it." We took the risk
631
00:39:18,932 --> 00:39:21,315
to do it and that's
why the story started.
632
00:39:22,379 --> 00:39:25,813
- In 1975, Serge and
his brother went for broke
633
00:39:26,172 --> 00:39:29,896
and like the Lebanese have
done for thousands of years
634
00:39:29,921 --> 00:39:33,630
they packed their bags and
they took their wares abroad,
635
00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:36,056
and they went to London,
636
00:39:36,939 --> 00:39:39,612
and were carrying their
wines around in suitcases
637
00:39:39,637 --> 00:39:42,014
going from door to
door, trying to sell these
638
00:39:42,038 --> 00:39:44,934
crazy wines from a
crazy country that no one
639
00:39:44,958 --> 00:39:47,881
really knew about and
that was the gamble.
640
00:39:49,003 --> 00:39:50,303
- It was an appalling war
641
00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:54,859
and Serge continued
making wine
642
00:39:55,434 --> 00:39:58,039
as if nothing had happened
and I wrote about it.
643
00:39:58,457 --> 00:40:03,212
I was actually credited
with discovering the wine.
644
00:40:03,292 --> 00:40:04,617
A chap came
to our stand and said
645
00:40:04,642 --> 00:40:07,143
"You really must
come right away
646
00:40:07,167 --> 00:40:09,902
there are some wines which
I think you must, must taste."
647
00:40:10,025 --> 00:40:12,837
And I'd never tasted
any wine like it before
648
00:40:12,861 --> 00:40:14,825
it was so distinctive,
649
00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:16,796
and it was not Bordeaux,
it was not Burgundy
650
00:40:16,821 --> 00:40:18,169
it was not trying
to be anything.
651
00:40:18,735 --> 00:40:21,929
- The paradoxical aspect
is the contrast between
652
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:25,540
a wine of this quality, the
man and his philosophy
653
00:40:25,565 --> 00:40:27,645
coming from the country
which was, unfortunately
654
00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:29,672
described, as a
third world country.
655
00:40:30,459 --> 00:40:31,500
Unknown.
656
00:40:31,696 --> 00:40:33,838
The press coverage
wasn't so favorable
657
00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,136
and so on, you know,
"What are you doing here
658
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,638
coming from Lebanon?"
659
00:40:37,663 --> 00:40:39,976
Refugees, between quotes.
660
00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:43,055
Refugees? We are not refugees.
661
00:40:44,351 --> 00:40:45,482
We're adventurers!
662
00:40:45,507 --> 00:40:46,708
(chuckling)
663
00:40:46,868 --> 00:40:47,931
We're not refugees.
664
00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:53,526
- In the 70's, 80's, Lebanon
was being talked about
665
00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,112
because of war,
not anything else.
666
00:40:56,137 --> 00:40:59,387
And at the time my
father traveling the world
667
00:40:59,412 --> 00:41:02,112
would be an ambassador
because he would talk about
668
00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:03,776
the history of the
country, about the culture
669
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,891
of the country, about
the wines of the country
670
00:41:05,916 --> 00:41:09,310
and so it was showing
an image of Lebanon
671
00:41:09,334 --> 00:41:11,594
which was something
completely different than
672
00:41:11,619 --> 00:41:14,492
what people were used to
seeing on the news and on TV.
673
00:41:15,549 --> 00:41:18,549
Phoenicians were traders,
they were not conquerors
674
00:41:18,574 --> 00:41:20,694
they were conquering by
trade and not conquering
675
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,037
by weapons and arms.
676
00:41:22,139 --> 00:41:25,179
We are, today,
showing our products
677
00:41:25,204 --> 00:41:27,224
by touring the world,
proposing them
678
00:41:27,269 --> 00:41:29,799
like Phoenicians
used to showcase them
679
00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:32,037
around the Mediterranean
5,000 years ago.
680
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:38,019
- One day, I was in Beirut
and the Syrians were shelling
681
00:41:38,044 --> 00:41:39,379
heavily Achrafieh
682
00:41:39,403 --> 00:41:42,367
so in my building, the
people went to the shelter
683
00:41:42,412 --> 00:41:44,512
they called me and I said, "No,
I will not go to the shelter.
684
00:41:44,537 --> 00:41:45,697
I'll stay in my room."
685
00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:52,228
I went to my cellar, I
discovered the bottle of 1972.
686
00:41:52,253 --> 00:41:55,283
I had a very big glass
of Baccarat, which takes
687
00:41:55,308 --> 00:41:58,768
one liter and a half,
so I took my bottle of '72
688
00:41:58,793 --> 00:42:01,537
decanted all of
it in this glass.
689
00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,762
The glass was half full
690
00:42:03,889 --> 00:42:07,577
and I took it to my
room, sat on my bed
691
00:42:07,601 --> 00:42:10,201
and each time there was
a shell, I would take a sip.
692
00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:13,063
I did not want to go out.
693
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,523
So this is how I discovered
that once you taste
694
00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:22,313
you use one thing
695
00:42:23,033 --> 00:42:24,616
you use your brain.
696
00:42:25,885 --> 00:42:27,611
The ability of
your brain to taste
697
00:42:27,636 --> 00:42:29,786
depends on the
conditions in which you are.
698
00:42:31,238 --> 00:42:33,338
If you have shells
coming on your head
699
00:42:33,376 --> 00:42:35,426
you taste but you
are affected by shells.
700
00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:41,710
So this, in one way, made
that the wine was different
701
00:42:42,506 --> 00:42:44,132
in the situation
in which I was.
702
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:46,976
(sound of shells exploding)
703
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,707
So I understood that your
interpretation of the wine
704
00:42:50,732 --> 00:42:54,845
depends on your identity,
on your soul, on your body.
705
00:42:56,634 --> 00:43:00,187
This is how you learn
to taste life slowly.
706
00:43:04,245 --> 00:43:06,263
The last drop made
me have a tear.
707
00:43:07,941 --> 00:43:10,608
(phone ringing)
708
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,402
At night time, my
friend called me,
709
00:43:20,427 --> 00:43:23,463
"Serge, we need a
partner for our bridge play.
710
00:43:23,487 --> 00:43:25,233
So, okay, could
you come down?"
711
00:43:25,258 --> 00:43:26,978
I told them, "Okay,
I'll come down."
712
00:43:27,003 --> 00:43:29,973
So I went out of
my room and I look
713
00:43:29,998 --> 00:43:32,954
all the windows of the
house were shattered.
714
00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:36,198
All the windows, the only
room which was not touched
715
00:43:36,223 --> 00:43:38,819
was the room where I
was spending my day.
716
00:43:39,521 --> 00:43:42,475
And a neighbor of
ours, a friend of mine,
717
00:43:43,147 --> 00:43:46,457
was in her room, there
was a bomb on their house.
718
00:43:46,482 --> 00:43:48,592
One shrapnel went through
719
00:43:49,691 --> 00:43:53,571
the ceiling and came
down directly into her heart.
720
00:43:53,596 --> 00:43:57,296
One shrapnel had come into
her heart and she passed away.
721
00:43:57,321 --> 00:44:02,119
So basically, so this
is how I spent this day
722
00:44:02,144 --> 00:44:06,150
and the wine I was
tasting this day was a 1972.
723
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,700
Just to tell you something,
for me, war or no war
724
00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:14,992
I don't care
because grape, yeast
725
00:44:15,017 --> 00:44:16,813
does not care about war.
726
00:44:21,649 --> 00:44:23,236
- The thing that I always
think of about Serge
727
00:44:23,278 --> 00:44:26,958
is that line of his, about how
a human being encountering
728
00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:30,082
a wine that is living, which is
what he always spoke about.
729
00:44:30,107 --> 00:44:31,522
As you know, that...
730
00:44:32,579 --> 00:44:34,249
that in order for
something to be great,
731
00:44:34,274 --> 00:44:36,584
it had to have life in it, it
didn't have to necessarily
732
00:44:36,609 --> 00:44:39,937
taste good or taste bad, it
was beyond that, it was about
733
00:44:39,961 --> 00:44:42,681
was this made with love,
was this made with life?
734
00:44:42,706 --> 00:44:45,659
Does it still contain life,
does it inspire you to life?
735
00:44:46,676 --> 00:44:49,806
All of this was about
this sense of living-ness
736
00:44:49,831 --> 00:44:54,094
as opposed to being shut
down and checked out.
737
00:44:55,149 --> 00:44:57,579
When you come into the presence
of somebody who has rejected
738
00:44:57,604 --> 00:45:00,614
that formula and said,
"You're not the sum of your
739
00:45:00,646 --> 00:45:03,062
obligations, you're
the sum of your senses,
740
00:45:03,087 --> 00:45:05,798
you're the sum of
your experiences,
741
00:45:05,836 --> 00:45:07,241
you're the sum
of your feelings,
742
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,510
you're the sum of your
interactions with other people.
743
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:10,554
Let me show you how.
744
00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:15,690
Through taste and through
the art of the senses."
745
00:45:17,499 --> 00:45:20,249
(dramatic music)
746
00:45:39,271 --> 00:45:43,322
- Everybody told me it's
not time to start a winery.
747
00:45:43,347 --> 00:45:46,611
It's not the time
to plant vineyards.
748
00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:50,533
And they used to
accompany it with a sign
749
00:45:50,558 --> 00:45:53,921
on their head doing...
750
00:45:55,132 --> 00:45:56,468
(chuckling)
751
00:45:56,493 --> 00:45:58,242
(upbeat music)
752
00:45:58,267 --> 00:46:01,243
And I never looked
after what they said.
753
00:46:02,154 --> 00:46:07,226
During the war in '82, I
asked for an oenologist
754
00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,483
and he was a French one.
755
00:46:09,508 --> 00:46:12,051
He came without
thinking about it.
756
00:46:12,803 --> 00:46:14,265
He was an adventurer.
757
00:46:15,443 --> 00:46:17,176
(upbeat alternative music)
758
00:46:29,321 --> 00:46:31,646
- In 1982, I
arrived in Lebanon.
759
00:46:32,115 --> 00:46:33,806
When I arrived he
told me to cut my hair
760
00:46:33,831 --> 00:46:36,399
and I said, "No way...
761
00:46:36,609 --> 00:46:39,287
if you don't like
it I can leave."
762
00:46:40,290 --> 00:46:45,686
But, as soon as I saw
the vines I couldn't leave.
763
00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:49,791
I thought it was
impossible that grapes
764
00:46:49,815 --> 00:46:52,449
like these were
growing in Lebanon.
765
00:46:53,202 --> 00:46:55,577
It reminded me of the Bible
766
00:46:56,428 --> 00:46:59,309
where Lebanese
wine is mentioned
767
00:46:59,309 --> 00:47:04,582
and when I saw the vines
I saw the direct connection.
768
00:47:05,242 --> 00:47:07,702
The grapes were beautiful!
769
00:47:07,727 --> 00:47:15,344
I used to blast Bob Marley
to the max while fermenting.
770
00:47:17,536 --> 00:47:20,850
To this day, people
still call me "Bob".
771
00:47:23,347 --> 00:47:25,702
- "I will be as
the dew to Israel.
772
00:47:26,657 --> 00:47:32,264
I shall grow as the lily and
throw out my roots to Lebanon.
773
00:47:33,718 --> 00:47:38,066
Those who dwell under
my shadow shall revive
774
00:47:38,663 --> 00:47:40,663
and grow as the vine.
775
00:47:41,009 --> 00:47:44,176
The scent shall be as
the wine of Lebanon."
776
00:47:46,603 --> 00:47:51,023
In the Old Testament,
Hosea wanted to convey
777
00:47:51,048 --> 00:47:53,306
Lebanon's greatness
through wine.
778
00:47:53,905 --> 00:47:55,960
The country was
considered to be one of
779
00:47:55,984 --> 00:47:58,038
the first wine
producers in the world.
780
00:47:58,444 --> 00:48:02,124
So Lebanon's
message is to propagate
781
00:48:02,149 --> 00:48:06,754
wine throughout the world.
782
00:48:07,335 --> 00:48:11,950
A little bit of wine
makes the heart happy.
783
00:48:15,302 --> 00:48:17,668
- Pour me some more.
- No, you've had too much.
784
00:48:17,693 --> 00:48:18,918
- Don't start with me.
785
00:48:22,919 --> 00:48:27,143
I told the workers
at the winery to leave
786
00:48:27,168 --> 00:48:33,010
but I didn't leave until the
first shells started falling.
787
00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:34,359
(tanks firing)
788
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,974
I said, "Jesus, this
place is filled with spirits.
789
00:48:41,050 --> 00:48:44,695
if one shell should hit, the
whole place will explode."
790
00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:48,781
So I ran outside to hide.
791
00:48:50,288 --> 00:48:53,610
- There was a sky
battle with the Syrians.
792
00:48:54,308 --> 00:48:58,425
And one or two
planes fell in Kefraya.
793
00:48:59,009 --> 00:49:00,417
In the vineyards.
794
00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:05,132
He was running and then the
passport got out of his pocket
795
00:49:05,157 --> 00:49:06,720
and he was without any papers.
796
00:49:07,938 --> 00:49:12,196
- So I was hiding in a pipe
797
00:49:13,979 --> 00:49:16,383
I was there the whole day.
798
00:49:17,016 --> 00:49:21,601
When the shelling stopped,
the soldiers came to the winery.
799
00:49:21,989 --> 00:49:24,703
- They arrived
with their tanks.
800
00:49:24,728 --> 00:49:26,858
They went into the house.
801
00:49:26,961 --> 00:49:29,001
They deteriorated
what they could,
802
00:49:29,054 --> 00:49:33,263
then they installed their
camp here just where we are.
803
00:49:33,587 --> 00:49:36,263
They knew that he was there.
804
00:49:36,596 --> 00:49:39,052
They asked for him
and everybody said
805
00:49:39,077 --> 00:49:40,777
"We don't know where he is."
806
00:49:40,802 --> 00:49:45,308
So they thought, of course,
that he would not be far.
807
00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:48,855
- One of the tanks was
going back and forth.
808
00:49:49,876 --> 00:49:51,196
A soldier got out
and put his flashlight
809
00:49:51,221 --> 00:49:52,553
into the hole
where I was hiding,
810
00:49:53,483 --> 00:49:56,876
and I said to myself, "This
is the end, I'm going to die."
811
00:49:56,901 --> 00:49:59,922
I put my hands up
and surrendered.
812
00:50:00,042 --> 00:50:02,157
- They thought
he was a terrorist
813
00:50:02,451 --> 00:50:04,292
because he had a beard.
814
00:50:05,745 --> 00:50:07,925
And they took him to Tel Aviv.
815
00:50:08,707 --> 00:50:12,606
- I was transferred
to 6 or 7 jails.
816
00:50:12,631 --> 00:50:17,949
They tied my hands and
feet and put me in a truck
817
00:50:18,258 --> 00:50:22,018
and next to me
was a Syrian pilot
818
00:50:22,676 --> 00:50:25,283
and part of his face was gone.
819
00:50:26,346 --> 00:50:30,565
When they saw his condition
they gave him morphine
820
00:50:30,604 --> 00:50:33,182
and he couldn't feel
the pain anymore.
821
00:50:34,649 --> 00:50:39,312
I was smoking a cigarette
with my hands tied up
822
00:50:40,194 --> 00:50:44,726
and the pilot was asking me
with his eyes for a cigarette.
823
00:50:46,201 --> 00:50:48,351
I pretended that
I didn't see him.
824
00:50:50,874 --> 00:50:52,882
I couldn't give him a smoke.
What would he do with it?
825
00:50:53,752 --> 00:50:56,960
Finally, an officer asked
me for a phone number,
826
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,687
to contact someone in
France to say I was in jail.
827
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,265
So they tell my mom.
828
00:51:07,512 --> 00:51:09,848
They told her, "Your
son is in prison in Israel."
829
00:51:09,873 --> 00:51:11,623
Then they hung up.
830
00:51:12,356 --> 00:51:13,516
They hung up on her.
831
00:51:16,686 --> 00:51:20,959
When she heard I was
in prison she thought
832
00:51:20,984 --> 00:51:26,618
that I had become a
thug and a troublemaker.
833
00:51:26,743 --> 00:51:30,380
So she didn't tell
anyone about it.
834
00:51:32,124 --> 00:51:34,474
There were 70 of us in prison.
835
00:51:34,659 --> 00:51:37,294
I tried speaking with another
Frenchman and the others
836
00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:40,733
would always shut me up because
someone was always praying.
837
00:51:41,633 --> 00:51:44,591
They would all pray
constantly, one after another.
838
00:51:44,636 --> 00:51:46,700
I said, "Why are you praying?
839
00:51:46,718 --> 00:51:50,239
Are you afraid
of being killed?
840
00:51:50,472 --> 00:51:52,950
When you had guns
none of you were praying
841
00:51:52,975 --> 00:51:55,979
but now you are afraid
for your lives, right?"
842
00:51:56,523 --> 00:51:58,757
I started shouting at them
843
00:51:58,781 --> 00:52:01,354
because no one
would let me talk.
844
00:52:01,987 --> 00:52:05,081
We were two against seventy.
845
00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:10,963
I told them, "Everyone
prays together, and that's it."
846
00:52:10,988 --> 00:52:15,354
After that we could speak
whenever we wanted.
847
00:52:15,439 --> 00:52:18,539
The one who jailed
us told me to "eat shit"
848
00:52:18,545 --> 00:52:21,893
and now you want
me to shut up?
849
00:52:22,048 --> 00:52:24,596
No way! I'm not
going to take it!
850
00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:27,962
So I became the
leader of the cell.
851
00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:33,281
- Then the French
consulate intervened
852
00:52:33,688 --> 00:52:37,087
and they got him
out, back to France
853
00:52:37,189 --> 00:52:39,979
and he stayed
there for just a week
854
00:52:40,025 --> 00:52:41,657
and then he came back here.
855
00:52:41,943 --> 00:52:46,190
I told him not to do it but
he wanted to come back.
856
00:52:46,781 --> 00:52:53,831
The army stayed three
years and we used to look after
857
00:52:53,856 --> 00:52:55,597
what they did every day.
858
00:52:55,624 --> 00:52:58,152
If it was not pipes
which were broken
859
00:52:58,177 --> 00:53:01,363
it was the vines
which were erased.
860
00:53:02,464 --> 00:53:05,706
(light music)
861
00:53:06,551 --> 00:53:11,168
- If you stay until tomorrow
I can tell you stories.
862
00:53:15,015 --> 00:53:16,695
(bottle opener rattling)
863
00:53:17,229 --> 00:53:18,793
What's happening?
864
00:53:19,731 --> 00:53:21,543
(bottle slamming on surface)
(cork popping)
865
00:53:21,613 --> 00:53:22,613
Ha!
866
00:53:23,276 --> 00:53:25,472
Did you say something?
867
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,015
Pass me the 2011.
868
00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:38,711
(playful music)
869
00:53:39,376 --> 00:53:40,976
(indistinct chatter)
870
00:53:46,508 --> 00:53:50,153
After that jail experience,
I took down my walls.
871
00:53:50,271 --> 00:53:51,391
(wine pouring)
872
00:53:52,169 --> 00:53:53,241
(playful music)
873
00:53:53,265 --> 00:53:54,333
- Which wine
you want to taste?
874
00:53:54,358 --> 00:53:55,426
- All of them
875
00:53:55,538 --> 00:53:56,621
(cork popping)
876
00:53:57,137 --> 00:53:58,137
(sipping)
877
00:53:59,601 --> 00:54:01,281
(playful music continues)
878
00:54:07,025 --> 00:54:08,025
(spitting)
879
00:54:09,353 --> 00:54:10,553
(smacking lips)
880
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,020
(cork popping)
881
00:54:13,045 --> 00:54:16,126
- When I came back to Lebanon,
there was a snowball effect
882
00:54:16,151 --> 00:54:18,470
and I found myself getting
more and more sucked into
883
00:54:18,495 --> 00:54:20,823
this funny little
world that was called
884
00:54:20,848 --> 00:54:22,433
the Lebanese wine industry.
885
00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:29,765
(spitting)
886
00:54:31,031 --> 00:54:32,031
(spitting)
887
00:54:37,747 --> 00:54:40,104
- I want to shock you.
- Okay, you should.
888
00:54:40,201 --> 00:54:41,399
- I love to shock you.
889
00:54:41,532 --> 00:54:42,833
You know how old I am?
890
00:54:45,411 --> 00:54:46,579
- 73
891
00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:48,041
- 27
892
00:54:49,507 --> 00:54:51,267
27!
- Okay
893
00:54:51,292 --> 00:54:52,822
- I'm getting younger
894
00:54:52,847 --> 00:54:54,597
this is why I'm
becoming dangerous.
895
00:54:57,829 --> 00:55:00,302
Good, okay, what
you want to taste now?
896
00:55:00,332 --> 00:55:02,332
- Let's go for the cuvée.
897
00:55:02,843 --> 00:55:03,908
(cork popping)
898
00:55:05,003 --> 00:55:06,896
- Let me give you an advice.
899
00:55:07,727 --> 00:55:11,986
You take your glass and you
put one drop on your tongue
900
00:55:13,095 --> 00:55:16,296
and you leave it on
your tongue, one drop.
901
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:26,239
And it goes into all your mouth
902
00:55:26,399 --> 00:55:28,239
and nothing comes
to your stomach.
903
00:55:28,276 --> 00:55:30,746
So you have the
pleasure without the effect
904
00:55:31,711 --> 00:55:32,731
of drinking.
905
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,544
- Serge, you're
too kind, thank you.
906
00:55:37,569 --> 00:55:38,588
- Oh.
907
00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:41,600
Because this
would smell different.
908
00:55:42,162 --> 00:55:43,333
- It already has
smelled different.
909
00:55:43,371 --> 00:55:44,471
- Yeah.
910
00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:49,811
You see, when you
swirl in the glass, you look
911
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,533
to the tears, look how
much time it takes to go down.
912
00:55:55,371 --> 00:55:57,634
It stays, it stays,
it's impressive.
913
00:55:58,498 --> 00:56:01,903
You know, Michael, I
have reached an age
914
00:56:02,821 --> 00:56:07,025
where love is a
question of experience.
915
00:56:07,611 --> 00:56:10,764
You can start loving
and then it dies.
916
00:56:11,597 --> 00:56:13,337
The most important, if love
917
00:56:13,362 --> 00:56:16,468
you can increase it and
make it better, higher
918
00:56:16,493 --> 00:56:19,147
more approachable,
more attractive,
919
00:56:19,172 --> 00:56:21,250
so this is how I behave
920
00:56:21,275 --> 00:56:22,418
even with my wine.
921
00:56:24,866 --> 00:56:27,826
- In 1984, after
the Israeli invasion
922
00:56:27,851 --> 00:56:30,461
the road from Beirut to
Damascus was closed.
923
00:56:30,486 --> 00:56:32,076
The vineyards were
in the buffer zone.
924
00:56:32,101 --> 00:56:33,239
You know, it was...
925
00:56:34,422 --> 00:56:37,804
You have the Israeli
armies in the south
926
00:56:37,835 --> 00:56:39,645
and the Syrian
army in the north
927
00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:42,063
and I think the vineyards
were in between.
928
00:56:43,740 --> 00:56:46,746
- In 1984, there was
such a war situation
929
00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:49,506
not because the grapes
could not make wine
930
00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:51,780
because I could not
bring them to the winery.
931
00:56:53,087 --> 00:56:55,887
- While I was in
Beirut, our bailiff
932
00:56:55,912 --> 00:56:57,852
got in touch with
me at my office
933
00:56:57,890 --> 00:57:00,120
five in the evening,
the streets were empty.
934
00:57:00,145 --> 00:57:03,698
Empty because the offices were
not far from the Green Line.
935
00:57:04,703 --> 00:57:06,502
He said, "Look, I'm ready.
936
00:57:06,527 --> 00:57:09,663
I can send you two or three
trucks." "Are you joking?"
937
00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:11,179
He said, "No."
938
00:57:11,499 --> 00:57:13,547
I called Serge in
Paris on holiday
939
00:57:13,572 --> 00:57:15,563
and said, "Serge, look,
I don't want you to come
940
00:57:16,067 --> 00:57:18,717
but we can start in two
days." He said, "What?"
941
00:57:18,742 --> 00:57:20,693
I said, "Yes, but don't come."
942
00:57:20,718 --> 00:57:22,283
He called me back, said "Okay,
943
00:57:22,307 --> 00:57:24,786
I'll be there in a couple
of days." "For God's sake!"
944
00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,570
He flew from Paris to
Cyprus, took a speed boat
945
00:57:28,595 --> 00:57:31,165
and he arrived two days
later at six in the morning.
946
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:35,013
- Instead of harvesting in
early September, as usual
947
00:57:35,237 --> 00:57:37,560
we did harvest on
the 20th of October,
948
00:57:37,906 --> 00:57:40,214
which made it an impossible
949
00:57:40,238 --> 00:57:43,011
product and to bring the
grapes from the vineyards,
950
00:57:43,036 --> 00:57:45,305
which are in Bekaa
Valley to Ghazir,
951
00:57:45,330 --> 00:57:47,339
which is north of Beirut...
952
00:57:48,117 --> 00:57:50,250
it took us five days.
953
00:57:51,155 --> 00:57:53,985
From the vineyard we
had to go south Bekaa,
954
00:57:54,032 --> 00:57:56,813
up to the north to Baalbek
and there we took the road
955
00:57:56,838 --> 00:57:59,487
to the Cedars and from
the Cedars to Tripoli
956
00:57:59,511 --> 00:58:02,337
and from Tripoli to Jounieh
and there to the winery.
957
00:58:02,385 --> 00:58:04,065
(truck engine rumbling)
958
00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:12,086
- Life in 1984 wasn't easy.
959
00:58:12,337 --> 00:58:15,351
All the roads were
closed and bombed,
960
00:58:16,066 --> 00:58:19,492
Whenever we would find
an open road we would take it.
961
00:58:20,041 --> 00:58:23,062
On the way back from the
Cedars road, I hit a checkpoint.
962
00:58:23,087 --> 00:58:25,261
I bribed them
with cigarettes to
963
00:58:25,286 --> 00:58:27,605
make the crossing
happen as usual.
964
00:58:28,161 --> 00:58:30,867
But this time the
soldier was annoying
965
00:58:30,891 --> 00:58:33,523
me so I threw the
cigarettes at him
966
00:58:34,051 --> 00:58:35,460
and then he attacked me!
967
00:58:36,144 --> 00:58:38,136
So I tackled him
and took his weapon.
968
00:58:39,129 --> 00:58:43,354
His commander
saw us and ran over
969
00:58:43,379 --> 00:58:48,450
I gave him his weapon and
he asked, "What happened?"
970
00:58:48,475 --> 00:58:50,542
I exaggerated a
little bit and told
971
00:58:50,566 --> 00:58:52,510
him the soldier
had offended me,
972
00:58:53,431 --> 00:58:55,426
so the commander
started beating him.
973
00:58:55,637 --> 00:58:58,565
I can't believe I
wasn't beaten too.
974
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,088
The commander was a good guy.
975
00:59:02,365 --> 00:59:03,995
He invited me for a tea!
976
00:59:04,117 --> 00:59:06,867
After that he said,
"I got your back,
977
00:59:08,330 --> 00:59:10,325
God be with you."
978
00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:15,026
- So we found another route,
we sent the grapes from Bekaa
979
00:59:15,051 --> 00:59:17,454
to the south of
Lebanon, go to Sidon.
980
00:59:18,006 --> 00:59:21,002
In Sidon, we took a ferry boat
981
00:59:21,676 --> 00:59:24,989
and which brought
the truck to Jounieh
982
00:59:25,013 --> 00:59:27,516
and from there, from Jounieh,
it went up to the winery.
983
00:59:27,593 --> 00:59:30,826
But there was a storm,
so to be able to sail
984
00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:32,747
it took three
days more to sail
985
00:59:32,771 --> 00:59:34,782
so this is what made
that the grape arrived
986
00:59:34,807 --> 00:59:36,836
to the winery five days after.
987
00:59:37,772 --> 00:59:42,107
So... the grapes arrived to the
winery already fermenting.
988
00:59:44,279 --> 00:59:46,369
- All of a sudden,
Serge told me
989
00:59:46,394 --> 00:59:48,984
"You got the truck from
the south, but what?"
990
00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:50,216
I said, "Yes."
991
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,513
It wasn't planned.
992
00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:55,489
Purely coincidence,
nature, God, war.
993
00:59:56,128 --> 00:59:57,169
War.
994
00:59:57,194 --> 00:59:59,551
This is why I
say making wine
995
00:59:59,576 --> 01:00:02,908
is the biggest gamble you
could think of, okay, good?
996
01:00:03,093 --> 01:00:05,588
So when I'm asked, "Serge,
what do you do in life?"
997
01:00:05,613 --> 01:00:07,041
I do two things.
998
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:09,643
I'm a cook and I'm a gambler.
999
01:00:10,217 --> 01:00:11,857
I cook for tomorrow
not for today
1000
01:00:11,882 --> 01:00:14,349
but by making the
wine for the future
1001
01:00:14,374 --> 01:00:16,187
and bottling it, I'm a gambler.
1002
01:00:17,065 --> 01:00:20,622
So I'm a cook, gambler cook.
1003
01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,114
Any decision you
make on the wine,
1004
01:00:23,595 --> 01:00:24,724
affects the wine.
1005
01:00:25,111 --> 01:00:27,757
Now, although the
wine makes itself
1006
01:00:27,781 --> 01:00:31,371
by raising it up,
by giving it affection
1007
01:00:31,410 --> 01:00:34,260
by talking with it, it can
evolve, we can make it evolve.
1008
01:00:35,093 --> 01:00:36,863
And this is what I say:
1009
01:00:36,888 --> 01:00:38,659
Wine is a permanent miracle,
1010
01:00:39,919 --> 01:00:41,238
and you have to believe.
1011
01:00:42,189 --> 01:00:43,869
(wine bottle opening)
1012
01:00:48,938 --> 01:00:52,132
- When I came
back to Lebanon,
1013
01:00:52,722 --> 01:00:54,561
I was shocked by a
social phenomenon
1014
01:00:54,612 --> 01:00:58,350
that emerged during the war.
1015
01:01:00,275 --> 01:01:04,167
The war was about ethnicity.
1016
01:01:04,192 --> 01:01:09,493
Your identity
could get you killed.
1017
01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:21,666
I told my sister that I wanted
to go to our village in Kobayet.
1018
01:01:23,032 --> 01:01:25,911
"No way!" she said
1019
01:01:25,936 --> 01:01:27,954
"You have to pass by Muslim
checkpoints.
1020
01:01:27,978 --> 01:01:29,630
They will kill you!"
1021
01:01:29,638 --> 01:01:33,161
But that didn't change my mind.
1022
01:01:34,254 --> 01:01:40,481
Every time there
was a checkpoint
1023
01:01:40,506 --> 01:01:43,289
I would get out of
the car on purpose
1024
01:01:43,314 --> 01:01:46,745
so they would
see I was a monk.
1025
01:01:48,653 --> 01:01:52,636
I arrived at the
village of Hermel
1026
01:01:52,661 --> 01:01:54,815
and still no one had killed me.
1027
01:01:57,539 --> 01:02:00,370
No one had laid
their hands on me.
1028
01:02:01,348 --> 01:02:03,697
Not even an insult.
1029
01:02:05,255 --> 01:02:07,088
I saw kids playing
1030
01:02:07,872 --> 01:02:15,016
and I asked if they could take
me to the Sheikh.
1031
01:02:17,557 --> 01:02:21,381
"Follow us!" they said.
1032
01:02:21,811 --> 01:02:24,467
All the children were
walking in front of me
1033
01:02:24,484 --> 01:02:29,233
and along the way
people joined the crowd.
1034
01:02:29,635 --> 01:02:32,209
We walked in
the narrow streets
1035
01:02:32,717 --> 01:02:34,910
until we arrived to
the Sheikh's house.
1036
01:02:35,584 --> 01:02:38,209
The Skeikh was surprised
to see all the villagers
1037
01:02:38,248 --> 01:02:42,255
in front of his door
with me in the middle.
1038
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:47,423
He asked, "How can
I help you, Father?"
1039
01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:50,775
I told him, "I am
here to defy you.
1040
01:02:51,578 --> 01:02:55,680
I came all the way from Beirut
and still no one has killed me."
1041
01:02:55,705 --> 01:02:57,880
"So I thought why not meet you,
1042
01:02:57,905 --> 01:03:01,155
the big Sheikh,
and test my fate."
1043
01:03:01,726 --> 01:03:03,918
"Why would I kill you?
1044
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,782
On the contrary, you
are most welcome!"
1045
01:03:07,411 --> 01:03:11,829
I stood up and
went towards him.
1046
01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:15,740
I kissed him...
1047
01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:20,141
on both cheeks
1048
01:03:20,173 --> 01:03:21,975
and hugged him
1049
01:03:23,001 --> 01:03:28,722
and I said, "Love
will prevail."
1050
01:03:30,383 --> 01:03:34,605
A toast to love and humanity.
1051
01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:57,637
- One of the most remarkable
stories in postwar Lebanon
1052
01:03:57,661 --> 01:04:02,433
is Chateau Bellevue
in Bhamdoun.
1053
01:04:02,457 --> 01:04:06,846
Here we have a story of a
man who grew up in Bhamdoun,
1054
01:04:06,878 --> 01:04:08,500
who loved the village,
1055
01:04:09,311 --> 01:04:14,021
who had an intense,
emotional tie with his community
1056
01:04:14,046 --> 01:04:17,446
who left, he took the
traditional Lebanese route,
1057
01:04:17,472 --> 01:04:21,192
he left to study abroad
like thousands of Lebanese
1058
01:04:21,220 --> 01:04:23,846
do every year and
when he was studying
1059
01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:26,520
in the middle of the civil
war, there was a massacre
1060
01:04:27,315 --> 01:04:31,218
in his village, 500
people were murdered.
1061
01:04:32,287 --> 01:04:34,187
I mean, that would
be trauma anywhere
1062
01:04:36,609 --> 01:04:38,005
and what did he do?
1063
01:04:38,247 --> 01:04:42,707
He said, "I'm gonna heal the
wounds of war through wine,"
1064
01:04:42,747 --> 01:04:47,747
and he planted his first
vineyard in his father's hotel
1065
01:04:47,912 --> 01:04:50,552
that was destroyed during
the war and now he's bought
1066
01:04:50,577 --> 01:04:55,400
vineyards all over the town
as a symbol of resurrection.
1067
01:04:56,375 --> 01:04:58,267
(soft music)
1068
01:04:58,305 --> 01:04:59,735
- When you plant vines,
1069
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,826
you plant it for
your grandchild.
1070
01:05:01,850 --> 01:05:05,872
If you really want to uproot
people, cut their vines
1071
01:05:05,896 --> 01:05:08,053
and that's exactly
what's happening
1072
01:05:08,078 --> 01:05:09,578
around this part of the world.
1073
01:05:11,704 --> 01:05:15,560
500 people
perished in this place,
1074
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,841
In this place and in many
other places, so it happened
1075
01:05:20,865 --> 01:05:22,938
in Christian villages, it
happened in
1076
01:05:22,962 --> 01:05:24,672
Muslim, Druze villages,
1077
01:05:24,706 --> 01:05:26,434
it happened everywhere.
1078
01:05:26,458 --> 01:05:29,011
To me, this was it, I never
wanted to come back...
1079
01:05:29,753 --> 01:05:30,924
at the time, you know.
1080
01:05:31,834 --> 01:05:34,062
Despite the fact that
because we felt useless
1081
01:05:34,086 --> 01:05:35,906
we felt powerless,
we felt like
1082
01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:37,586
it's so much bigger than you
1083
01:05:37,611 --> 01:05:38,944
how can you make a change?
1084
01:05:40,806 --> 01:05:43,086
When I returned the first
person I wanted to help
1085
01:05:43,111 --> 01:05:45,734
was myself, I
had hatred in me.
1086
01:05:46,135 --> 01:05:50,018
I had hatred against
human beings.
1087
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:55,596
There were no trees, my
vineyard, my own vineyard
1088
01:05:55,620 --> 01:05:58,336
that I had planted
with my grandfather
1089
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,793
was uprooted, the
olive groves were cut.
1090
01:06:01,746 --> 01:06:04,276
I don't have to seek
justice by myself.
1091
01:06:04,346 --> 01:06:07,889
Justice, we seek by planting
and beautifying things.
1092
01:06:08,946 --> 01:06:10,347
We continue doing that.
1093
01:06:12,229 --> 01:06:14,642
- It's good will
that's guiding us.
1094
01:06:16,070 --> 01:06:19,266
The idea was, how can
we encourage people
1095
01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:21,503
to reattach themselves
to their own land?
1096
01:06:22,035 --> 01:06:23,530
The vineyards was the vehicle.
1097
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,343
It was a vehicle that people
could relate to at some level.
1098
01:06:31,391 --> 01:06:33,580
One of the issues that
we had encouraging people
1099
01:06:33,604 --> 01:06:35,693
to come back and
live in Bhamdoun,
1100
01:06:35,731 --> 01:06:38,475
because everyone had
obviously made lives elsewhere -
1101
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:41,346
schools, apartments,
jobs, et cetera, in Beirut
1102
01:06:41,370 --> 01:06:43,796
most frequently, but to
get them to come back
1103
01:06:43,820 --> 01:06:46,686
and really invest themselves
here, we had to somehow
1104
01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:49,308
encourage their
children to be interested.
1105
01:06:49,871 --> 01:06:51,891
It couldn't be
internet, it couldn't be
1106
01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,456
things that they're
used to doing, going out
1107
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,282
and having places
to go with their friends.
1108
01:06:56,631 --> 01:07:01,805
So a few years ago, Naji
created a group of harvesters,
1109
01:07:02,137 --> 01:07:05,446
who were young people in
high school and in college
1110
01:07:05,475 --> 01:07:07,155
they didn't necessarily
know each other because
1111
01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:09,108
they were all from
different parts of Beirut
1112
01:07:09,133 --> 01:07:10,967
but their parents had
known each other.
1113
01:07:11,521 --> 01:07:13,021
They earned a
little bit of money
1114
01:07:13,046 --> 01:07:15,966
they found a commonality,
1115
01:07:15,991 --> 01:07:17,871
they started to care
about what happened
1116
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:19,115
to their grandfathers' land.
1117
01:07:19,529 --> 01:07:22,816
So that's the generation
that needed to be excited.
1118
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,662
- And now they know
every corner of the valley
1119
01:07:25,698 --> 01:07:28,322
and they ask us,
when are we picking?
1120
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:30,683
That's what we want
to create here,
1121
01:07:30,707 --> 01:07:32,541
is people who
believe in the future.
1122
01:07:34,959 --> 01:07:40,359
A future based on
total quality environment,
1123
01:07:42,317 --> 01:07:44,350
where we are in
communion with nature.
1124
01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:46,903
- All the elements are here.
1125
01:07:48,058 --> 01:07:50,258
People have to open
their eyes and see them.
1126
01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:51,317
Breaking News
1127
01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:54,231
- Dani Chamoun, his
wife and two young sons
1128
01:07:54,254 --> 01:07:56,005
were killed today
in their apartment
1129
01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:58,264
by a commando team
of five armed men.
1130
01:07:58,276 --> 01:08:01,034
An act that has
sparked outrage
1131
01:08:06,910 --> 01:08:09,493
(bell ringing)
1132
01:08:22,509 --> 01:08:24,569
- I left Lebanon to
discover the world
1133
01:08:25,637 --> 01:08:28,030
but Lebanon
never really left me.
1134
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,730
On the TV, I saw the picture
of Dani, Ingrid and the boys
1135
01:08:33,755 --> 01:08:35,568
I grew up very
close to the family.
1136
01:08:36,711 --> 01:08:39,403
I knew that something
terrible had happened.
1137
01:08:41,194 --> 01:08:43,396
Dani fought for this land.
1138
01:08:44,330 --> 01:08:46,426
The same day I called
up my mom and I said,
1139
01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:48,287
"I'm coming back to...
1140
01:08:55,083 --> 01:08:56,202
home."
1141
01:08:56,615 --> 01:08:59,032
(soft music)
1142
01:09:01,841 --> 01:09:03,245
When I returned
1143
01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:08,333
the first matter I had to
negotiate was the land we had.
1144
01:09:13,373 --> 01:09:15,576
I stayed on the
rooftop of our house.
1145
01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:19,621
Occupiers were in it
living with their cattle.
1146
01:09:21,210 --> 01:09:22,803
They were nomads, Bedouins
1147
01:09:24,818 --> 01:09:28,071
and they realized at some
point that I meant business.
1148
01:09:29,725 --> 01:09:33,975
I had an AK-47 that
didn't leave me all the time
1149
01:09:34,045 --> 01:09:36,018
but luckily I didn't
have to use it.
1150
01:09:37,101 --> 01:09:40,055
I wasn't aggressive at
all but I had determination
1151
01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:43,444
so eventually they
decided to pack and leave
1152
01:09:43,469 --> 01:09:45,072
because one of
us had to leave.
1153
01:09:46,624 --> 01:09:50,554
Once the squatters left, I
had all this land on hand
1154
01:09:50,579 --> 01:09:52,912
and I said, I need to
make a life out of it.
1155
01:09:57,103 --> 01:10:00,967
There is no stronger wine than
a wine made in a region where
1156
01:10:00,992 --> 01:10:05,319
there is war, because it's
the essence of rebirth and life.
1157
01:10:06,334 --> 01:10:09,141
Wine is not just
a mere packaging
1158
01:10:09,165 --> 01:10:11,334
of a bottle and a price,
1159
01:10:11,368 --> 01:10:12,777
it's a soul.
1160
01:10:13,245 --> 01:10:16,015
And the soul of life
from a region of war
1161
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,800
is nowhere stronger
than when you are able
1162
01:10:18,834 --> 01:10:20,357
to make wine from this region.
1163
01:10:21,456 --> 01:10:26,456
It means, by essence,
this is life I'm offering you
1164
01:10:26,789 --> 01:10:28,016
although there is war.
1165
01:10:31,857 --> 01:10:35,690
(singing in foreign language)
1166
01:10:54,352 --> 01:10:58,215
- Sami and Ramzi Ghosn
were children of the civil war.
1167
01:10:59,374 --> 01:11:01,551
They were at the forefront
of what I would call the...
1168
01:11:02,373 --> 01:11:05,406
the second generation of
Lebanese wine producers,
1169
01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:09,188
those producers that
established their wineries
1170
01:11:09,597 --> 01:11:11,220
after the civil war ended.
1171
01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:17,522
Ramzi's moment came in 2006.
1172
01:11:18,095 --> 01:11:22,085
When there was a brutal, a very
short but brutal war between
1173
01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:27,052
the Shia Lebanese political
party, Hezbollah and Israel.
1174
01:11:27,076 --> 01:11:29,797
And Ramzi who
had already been uprooted
1175
01:11:29,821 --> 01:11:31,954
from his winery once,
1176
01:11:33,241 --> 01:11:36,411
as a child, said,
"No, I'm not moving."
1177
01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:39,806
And he stayed for a
month with his vines.
1178
01:11:39,831 --> 01:11:44,551
Under the bombs, the shrapnel
was fizzing in the vineyard.
1179
01:11:44,576 --> 01:11:48,696
If ever there was a moment in
which the Lebanese winemaker,
1180
01:11:48,721 --> 01:11:52,091
the Lebanese
entrepreneur was defined
1181
01:11:53,011 --> 01:11:54,830
by resilience,
1182
01:11:54,854 --> 01:11:56,198
by stubbornness,
1183
01:11:56,222 --> 01:11:57,641
by bravery,
1184
01:11:57,682 --> 01:12:02,420
it was the fact that Ramzi
Ghosn lived with his vines
1185
01:12:02,445 --> 01:12:06,595
amid the bombing
for one month in 2006
1186
01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:08,370
he said, "I'm not
fucking leaving."
1187
01:12:09,653 --> 01:12:13,223
- People who look at the
grim aspect of war only
1188
01:12:14,324 --> 01:12:16,760
will never get out of it.
1189
01:12:17,712 --> 01:12:21,572
People should look at
the positive aspect of war
1190
01:12:23,637 --> 01:12:29,611
and this is entrenched
deeply in the Lebanese culture.
1191
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,873
We have to make the
best of every single day,
1192
01:12:36,455 --> 01:12:39,538
we have to be thankful
1193
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,430
and to make every
day an opportunity
1194
01:12:47,443 --> 01:12:48,593
to learn something
1195
01:12:50,318 --> 01:12:51,598
and to advance
1196
01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:54,702
and to become stronger.
1197
01:13:05,116 --> 01:13:08,891
My wine-making practices
1198
01:13:08,915 --> 01:13:12,419
definitely changed
because of war.
1199
01:13:15,135 --> 01:13:20,729
There is no doubt that
my wine became for people
1200
01:13:20,754 --> 01:13:25,565
who want to enjoy every
single day of their lives.
1201
01:13:25,984 --> 01:13:29,787
I want to enjoy my
wine now, not in 10 years.
1202
01:13:30,567 --> 01:13:31,567
And...
1203
01:13:32,395 --> 01:13:34,812
2006 reaffirmed
1204
01:13:36,669 --> 01:13:40,169
that the Lebanese
and our culture is about
1205
01:13:44,564 --> 01:13:46,347
daily "dolce vita".
1206
01:13:49,041 --> 01:13:51,761
Summer 2006,
1207
01:13:51,786 --> 01:13:52,936
everything was perfect.
1208
01:13:54,007 --> 01:13:57,729
Ripening of the grapes
was going very well
1209
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,909
and then a few skirmishes
happened in the south
1210
01:14:02,934 --> 01:14:05,824
and one day, my brother
and I were seated here
1211
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,196
watching the news,
just to try to understand
1212
01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:11,953
what was going on and
all the sudden a bridge
1213
01:14:11,978 --> 01:14:15,588
not far from here was
hit by the Israeli Air Force.
1214
01:14:17,835 --> 01:14:19,498
And then it was like a movie.
1215
01:14:22,163 --> 01:14:25,343
As if you're not
watching a movie
1216
01:14:26,947 --> 01:14:29,154
but you are a
subject in the movie.
1217
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,062
From this moment, we
started to take measures
1218
01:14:36,086 --> 01:14:41,721
to cope with a
longer war in a way.
1219
01:14:42,903 --> 01:14:45,318
I didn't imagine ourselves
1220
01:14:46,518 --> 01:14:49,589
being here, passive, watching.
1221
01:14:51,576 --> 01:14:56,901
The worst experience was the
bombing of the candy factory,
1222
01:14:56,945 --> 01:15:02,630
not far from here because
we lost the daughter of one
1223
01:15:02,655 --> 01:15:05,454
of our helpers at
the restaurant here.
1224
01:15:18,745 --> 01:15:21,058
- Everything was destroyed.
Everything with trucks
1225
01:15:21,094 --> 01:15:24,084
was destroyed, drones
were destroying everything,
1226
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,491
that seems like a truck.
1227
01:15:25,515 --> 01:15:27,771
They destroyed all the bridges,
1228
01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:31,260
so they think now the
trucks are taking the old roads
1229
01:15:31,284 --> 01:15:32,373
and they should be destroyed.
1230
01:15:32,397 --> 01:15:34,245
There was no pilot, there
was no human in the plane.
1231
01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:35,930
It was drone bombarding,
1232
01:15:35,955 --> 01:15:38,296
so nobody had the courage
to go and make the harvest
1233
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:39,620
because it was very risky.
1234
01:15:40,578 --> 01:15:42,948
We went to Serge's
office and he told me,
1235
01:15:42,973 --> 01:15:43,985
"What are you going to do?"
1236
01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:45,435
I told him, "We
are going to pick."
1237
01:15:45,460 --> 01:15:46,766
He told me, "How can you do it?"
1238
01:15:46,824 --> 01:15:48,836
I told him, "You have your
war, let me have my war."
1239
01:15:49,312 --> 01:15:52,883
He said "Okay" and he
was on telephone, on air
1240
01:15:52,908 --> 01:15:55,021
with Radio Grape
in California.
1241
01:15:59,728 --> 01:16:02,311
(upbeat music)
1242
01:16:04,054 --> 01:16:05,747
- Welcome to Grape
Radio, where an enthusiasm
1243
01:16:05,771 --> 01:16:06,989
for wine gets personal.
1244
01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:11,660
And today joining us long
distance, we have Serge Hochar
1245
01:16:11,685 --> 01:16:13,361
thanks for joining us, Serge.
1246
01:16:13,396 --> 01:16:15,799
- Thank you, Lebanon,
you should add Lebanon.
1247
01:16:16,233 --> 01:16:18,243
- Lebanon is well
known right now because
1248
01:16:18,290 --> 01:16:20,041
it's been in all the
headlines, how close are you
1249
01:16:20,065 --> 01:16:21,315
to where all the action was?
1250
01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:24,018
- So there was a
convoy coming to Bekaa
1251
01:16:24,043 --> 01:16:26,502
and when it arrived to
a village called Kefraya.
1252
01:16:27,176 --> 01:16:31,174
I don't know what happened,
they were hit by a plane.
1253
01:16:31,999 --> 01:16:36,140
I don't know why. There
was a convoy of 1,500 cars
1254
01:16:36,591 --> 01:16:39,689
and it had been prepared
with the United Nations
1255
01:16:39,714 --> 01:16:41,749
and it was supposed
to be a safe convoy
1256
01:16:41,967 --> 01:16:45,057
and finally, the hit
happened in Kefraya
1257
01:16:45,082 --> 01:16:48,325
which is one of the villages
where we have our vineyards.
1258
01:16:49,925 --> 01:16:51,566
- Tarek called to tell me that
1259
01:16:52,144 --> 01:16:53,989
we have to pick up the grapes.
1260
01:16:54,216 --> 01:17:01,044
I was worried about the bombs
but the grapes were on the line.
1261
01:17:01,695 --> 01:17:04,362
We have to fight and
pick up the grapes.
1262
01:17:05,377 --> 01:17:07,877
- We went to the Bekaa
Valley, we have no pickers.
1263
01:17:10,585 --> 01:17:13,144
This was a war zone and
everything was destroyed
1264
01:17:13,169 --> 01:17:16,282
bridges, roads, trucks,
so nobody was here.
1265
01:17:21,921 --> 01:17:24,971
Nobody thought there will
be any agricultural movement
1266
01:17:25,018 --> 01:17:26,633
or harvest of any kind.
1267
01:17:27,015 --> 01:17:28,608
Nobody thought
that would happen.
1268
01:17:30,905 --> 01:17:34,729
We arrived to the
village looking for help.
1269
01:17:34,754 --> 01:17:37,579
It was an emergency
so I rang the bell.
1270
01:17:37,814 --> 01:17:40,397
(bell ringing)
1271
01:17:50,911 --> 01:17:58,717
When villagers started gathering
around we asked for their help.
1272
01:18:01,338 --> 01:18:03,127
- "Yes, yes, we will
do it, we will do it."
1273
01:18:03,152 --> 01:18:05,354
People were astonished
because there was no work to do,
1274
01:18:05,379 --> 01:18:07,531
there was nothing to
do and people come.
1275
01:18:07,556 --> 01:18:11,532
40, 50 person, ladies,
men, it was astonishing.
1276
01:18:13,051 --> 01:18:15,054
There is unknown
soldier behind it.
1277
01:18:15,185 --> 01:18:18,545
When the trucks were
loaded, we had a big flag.
1278
01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:21,570
We put the big flag on the
cases, so the drone can see it.
1279
01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:23,650
And we said, "Let's go."
1280
01:18:23,675 --> 01:18:25,755
Everything was set
up, I was alone in my car
1281
01:18:25,779 --> 01:18:27,421
he was alone in his
truck and we drove.
1282
01:18:29,032 --> 01:18:31,832
So he was in front, I
was backing him behind.
1283
01:18:31,868 --> 01:18:33,718
So if anything
happened, I would help
1284
01:18:33,743 --> 01:18:35,554
I would interfere, I
would do anything.
1285
01:18:40,937 --> 01:18:45,985
- We could see the
drones above our heads.
1286
01:18:46,003 --> 01:18:52,678
We didn't know if we
were going to die or not.
1287
01:18:55,392 --> 01:18:57,962
- We can see
the trucks on fire
1288
01:18:57,987 --> 01:18:59,937
because they are
being hit by missiles,
1289
01:19:02,524 --> 01:19:03,527
and suddenly, boom!
1290
01:19:04,568 --> 01:19:06,720
I saw the smoke
coming from the truck.
1291
01:19:06,745 --> 01:19:09,644
I said we were hit by a
drone, so I saw the driver
1292
01:19:09,885 --> 01:19:11,636
opening the door and
throw himself into the ditch.
1293
01:19:11,661 --> 01:19:13,111
I did like him, I
opened the door
1294
01:19:13,136 --> 01:19:14,536
and threw myself
into the ditch.
1295
01:19:15,468 --> 01:19:17,135
But when we just
look, we saw water
1296
01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:18,433
water coming from the car
1297
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:20,268
we knew it was the radiator
1298
01:19:20,292 --> 01:19:21,422
because it was smoking,
1299
01:19:22,961 --> 01:19:25,860
and the water was running
down and the vapor was going up
1300
01:19:25,885 --> 01:19:27,688
we knew it was the radiator.
1301
01:19:27,716 --> 01:19:28,853
(chuckling)
1302
01:19:28,925 --> 01:19:31,115
As if all your
body was waiting
1303
01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,280
for something and this
feeling explode on the radiator.
1304
01:19:34,305 --> 01:19:36,715
Understand, you were
tense, we were tense.
1305
01:19:36,818 --> 01:19:38,468
Thank God, it
was the radiator!
1306
01:19:39,853 --> 01:19:42,253
We were not wine makers,
we were wine crusaders.
1307
01:19:43,398 --> 01:19:45,938
- Sometimes I look
at events in Lebanon
1308
01:19:45,963 --> 01:19:49,403
that would just
throw Western society.
1309
01:19:49,450 --> 01:19:53,106
The fact we don't have
electricity 24 hours a day
1310
01:19:53,130 --> 01:19:54,867
would send people
running into the streets
1311
01:19:54,892 --> 01:19:57,572
like zombies in
most Western capitals
1312
01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,536
but here we
just get on with it.
1313
01:19:59,818 --> 01:20:02,095
We take a cable from
here, we put it there
1314
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,771
we plug into a different
generator and we make it work.
1315
01:20:04,796 --> 01:20:07,736
Sure, at the beginning
it must've been a pain
1316
01:20:08,830 --> 01:20:10,230
but after a while you adapt.
1317
01:20:12,344 --> 01:20:16,324
George Sara is another
young man who immediately
1318
01:20:16,349 --> 01:20:20,249
understands conflict
and will not be thrown
1319
01:20:20,274 --> 01:20:22,264
or be fazed by conflict.
1320
01:20:22,290 --> 01:20:25,906
He understands that if his
wine maker has to land in Syria
1321
01:20:25,930 --> 01:20:28,266
because the airport
in Beirut is shut
1322
01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:31,736
and he has to go to the Syrian
border to pick his winemaker up
1323
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,266
to bring him back to start
the wine making process
1324
01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:36,793
and the harvest as
they had to do in 2006.
1325
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,160
That... to a Lebanese
1326
01:20:41,364 --> 01:20:42,997
is just what you have to do.
1327
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,316
- James, at the
time, was in Paris
1328
01:20:52,342 --> 01:20:54,523
or was in Bordeaux,
I think, I don't know,
1329
01:20:54,548 --> 01:20:57,639
he was in France on
vacation and I receive a call.
1330
01:20:58,539 --> 01:21:00,309
And I was in Syria
at the time because
1331
01:21:00,334 --> 01:21:01,930
at one point I had to leave.
1332
01:21:02,484 --> 01:21:03,756
At the
time Syria was safe
1333
01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:05,130
and Lebanon was not.
1334
01:21:05,154 --> 01:21:06,453
So we were there and he's like
1335
01:21:06,477 --> 01:21:08,751
"I have to get back
because I have to harvest,"
1336
01:21:08,775 --> 01:21:10,232
and I'm like, "James,
but it's not possible
1337
01:21:10,277 --> 01:21:11,626
because there are no roads."
1338
01:21:11,650 --> 01:21:15,483
He's like, "I need you to
book me a ticket to Damascus
1339
01:21:15,507 --> 01:21:16,776
I need to take a car."
1340
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,428
I'm like, "But James,
the roads are destroyed."
1341
01:21:19,744 --> 01:21:21,471
He's like, "I don't
care, I have to go back
1342
01:21:21,496 --> 01:21:24,066
I have to harvest, otherwise,
we'll miss the year."
1343
01:21:24,249 --> 01:21:27,231
The war is on and we
don't know what may happen.
1344
01:21:27,256 --> 01:21:30,481
We were waiting, day by day
we kept informed of the events
1345
01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:32,065
and all I was
seeing was the date
1346
01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:33,839
of the harvest
was getting closer.
1347
01:21:34,634 --> 01:21:36,609
Usually I go and
check the grapes
1348
01:21:36,634 --> 01:21:38,927
to see how they are doing
1349
01:21:38,975 --> 01:21:40,320
and I couldn't do that!
1350
01:21:40,902 --> 01:21:43,384
So I reserve a
ticket for James
1351
01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:46,746
he comes to Damascus
1352
01:21:46,770 --> 01:21:49,983
we get in the car, we
drive up to the borders.
1353
01:21:51,067 --> 01:21:54,440
This is actually
a very lucky story
1354
01:21:54,465 --> 01:21:58,009
a stroke of luck because
the day he arrived
1355
01:21:58,033 --> 01:21:59,994
was the day they
stopped the war.
1356
01:22:00,144 --> 01:22:05,144
- As soon as I heard
that the war was over
1357
01:22:05,169 --> 01:22:09,343
the next morning,
which was August 15th.
1358
01:22:09,795 --> 01:22:11,241
I tried but
couldn't get a flight
1359
01:22:11,249 --> 01:22:13,241
because everything was closed.
1360
01:22:13,266 --> 01:22:16,818
So on the 16th, I got
a flight to Damascus
1361
01:22:16,843 --> 01:22:19,575
in Damascus, the
road was destroyed.
1362
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,676
He picked me up at the airport
1363
01:22:21,701 --> 01:22:25,120
and dropped me off at
the border in the "free zone,"
1364
01:22:25,145 --> 01:22:27,016
which was destroyed
between the two countries.
1365
01:22:27,083 --> 01:22:28,755
He left me there
I walked through
1366
01:22:28,779 --> 01:22:31,953
the "free zone" with
my baggage in hand
1367
01:22:31,978 --> 01:22:34,344
and picked up a
taxi on the other side,
1368
01:22:34,369 --> 01:22:35,428
it took me to the winery,
1369
01:22:35,452 --> 01:22:36,619
arriving the
evening of the 16th.
1370
01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:38,986
Two days later, we
began harvesting
1371
01:22:39,568 --> 01:22:41,408
I was very relieved!
1372
01:22:41,433 --> 01:22:43,096
- I remember it very
well, there's a huge crater
1373
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,680
in the middle of the road and
he's there with his Samsonite
1374
01:22:45,705 --> 01:22:48,262
black bag carrying
it in his hand
1375
01:22:48,287 --> 01:22:49,567
and I stop at the
crater, I'm like,
1376
01:22:49,591 --> 01:22:51,862
"I'm sorry I can't go further."
1377
01:22:51,933 --> 01:22:55,128
Had the war lasted longer
1378
01:22:55,153 --> 01:22:57,086
we would have
lost a great deal
1379
01:22:57,092 --> 01:22:59,284
of our Chardonnay
and Sauvignon
1380
01:22:59,309 --> 01:23:01,518
mostly the whites
and some Merlot
1381
01:23:01,543 --> 01:23:04,838
so there, it was a miracle!
1382
01:23:06,309 --> 01:23:08,301
The war stopped at
the perfect moment.
1383
01:23:13,233 --> 01:23:16,630
- So this is why war
for me was a lucky thing.
1384
01:23:17,237 --> 01:23:19,443
War forced me to
get out of Lebanon.
1385
01:23:20,026 --> 01:23:23,857
War was the reason
why, instead of Lebanon
1386
01:23:23,882 --> 01:23:28,159
we became a global wine
all over the world, okay?
1387
01:23:28,772 --> 01:23:32,922
This is a good reason, so
please, thank you for war
1388
01:23:32,947 --> 01:23:36,060
because of war, we were
delayed in the harvesting
1389
01:23:36,084 --> 01:23:41,797
like in 1984, I had to harvest
due to political reasons
1390
01:23:41,822 --> 01:23:43,496
and not due to weather reasons.
1391
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,907
This is why today I became,
1392
01:23:44,931 --> 01:23:48,938
I became myself very
addicted to old wines because
1393
01:23:48,963 --> 01:23:54,115
the wine, sometimes, is not
ready, which happened to me
1394
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,829
two years ago, we had
the visit, of your friend here
1395
01:23:57,854 --> 01:23:59,615
whose name is Paul Grieco.
1396
01:24:00,030 --> 01:24:02,008
- I long for
something like that,
1397
01:24:02,032 --> 01:24:03,800
it was never part of
my personal experience.
1398
01:24:03,825 --> 01:24:07,097
How cool would
it be to go there?
1399
01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:10,336
And then it became one
of, I can't believe I'm actually
1400
01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,626
going to Lebanon, like, I must
be out of my goddamn mind
1401
01:24:12,650 --> 01:24:14,333
and when I flew
into the airport.
1402
01:24:16,015 --> 01:24:17,798
I wasn't tension filled
1403
01:24:18,632 --> 01:24:21,212
when I left the
airport, it was like
1404
01:24:21,237 --> 01:24:25,347
oh, so buildings bombed out
1405
01:24:25,372 --> 01:24:29,294
shrapnel marks everywhere,
tanks on the street.
1406
01:24:29,448 --> 01:24:34,248
It's not part of that
usual wine country trip
1407
01:24:34,273 --> 01:24:38,773
scenery that you get when
you go to Mosel river valley
1408
01:24:38,798 --> 01:24:41,318
or Bordeaux or Tuscany,
whatever and ultimately
1409
01:24:41,343 --> 01:24:42,752
when I look at
a bottle of wine,
1410
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,283
it's just grape juice with
alcohol, that is what it is,
1411
01:24:46,660 --> 01:24:50,030
and it is everything
surrounding the bottle of wine
1412
01:24:50,055 --> 01:24:53,184
religion, history, philosophy
1413
01:24:53,208 --> 01:24:55,278
culture, civilization,
movement of mankind
1414
01:24:55,303 --> 01:24:57,133
blah, blah, blah...
1415
01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,383
that pulls me into this.
1416
01:24:59,849 --> 01:25:01,366
- And Paul Grieco told me,
"Serge,
1417
01:25:01,390 --> 01:25:02,914
I want to taste the '84."
1418
01:25:02,939 --> 01:25:06,062
I told him, "Paul,
it's not wine.
1419
01:25:06,136 --> 01:25:07,193
I said "Look...
1420
01:25:07,217 --> 01:25:10,806
It's probably evolving,
it's probably become a port
1421
01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:12,252
but it's not wine,"
1422
01:25:12,276 --> 01:25:16,526
and then I opened the bottle,
he tasted it and said, "Serge.
1423
01:25:17,858 --> 01:25:19,859
I will list this wine if
you ship it to the US."
1424
01:25:19,896 --> 01:25:21,386
- It was like, holy shit, what
roller coaster
1425
01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:22,456
ride is this thing on?
1426
01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:25,933
And it wasn't-most wine
follows a beautiful arc.
1427
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:28,250
At least that's what I've
read and been taught
1428
01:25:28,285 --> 01:25:29,325
and all of those things.
1429
01:25:29,410 --> 01:25:31,860
Serge's wine never
followed a goddamn arc
1430
01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:33,625
from beginning
to middle to end.
1431
01:25:34,411 --> 01:25:37,796
It began, and then it went
down, and then it came back up
1432
01:25:37,821 --> 01:25:39,901
and it went down, it was like
all over the goddamn place
1433
01:25:39,926 --> 01:25:42,124
which made every
interaction with it
1434
01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:46,714
a thrill ride, again tension, at
times, you never knew which you
1435
01:25:46,739 --> 01:25:49,169
were going to get
and then you hear
1436
01:25:49,194 --> 01:25:50,844
"Well, we're not
bottling it, we never
1437
01:25:50,869 --> 01:25:52,083
wanted to, we never will."
1438
01:25:52,107 --> 01:25:54,712
It's like, excuse me?
1439
01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:00,866
- Serge was an ultimate
character to me because
1440
01:26:00,890 --> 01:26:04,583
of the relentless
stubborn passion
1441
01:26:04,607 --> 01:26:06,018
with which he lived his life.
1442
01:26:06,443 --> 01:26:10,215
You know, there are people who
talk a lot of smack about living
1443
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,674
a passionate life and showing
up and being in the moment
1444
01:26:12,699 --> 01:26:16,079
and experiencing every
instant and wasting nothing
1445
01:26:16,104 --> 01:26:19,374
and following their curiosity
and then there are people
1446
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,716
who do it and the difference
between people who speak
1447
01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:24,900
about it and people
who actually do it is vast
1448
01:26:24,925 --> 01:26:27,785
and when you find somebody
who has actually devoted
1449
01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:32,586
their entire life to
passionate, awake, conscious
1450
01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:36,983
delighted, sensory
living, they're magnetic.
1451
01:26:37,691 --> 01:26:39,526
- I hope you do not like it.
1452
01:26:40,232 --> 01:26:41,839
I hope you do not like it.
1453
01:26:42,910 --> 01:26:45,284
- He was very, very engaging
1454
01:26:45,315 --> 01:26:47,729
he genuinely, I
think, liked people
1455
01:26:47,999 --> 01:26:51,172
and wanted them
to engage with him
1456
01:26:51,196 --> 01:26:55,180
and loved very, very
distinctive conversations,
1457
01:26:55,205 --> 01:26:57,399
which could rapidly veer off.
1458
01:26:57,797 --> 01:27:00,344
He didn't really want
to talk about the certain
1459
01:27:00,376 --> 01:27:02,636
sort of things that most wine
makers want to talk about
1460
01:27:02,671 --> 01:27:05,231
fermentation
temperatures, different oaks
1461
01:27:05,257 --> 01:27:08,177
that sort of thing, he
was much more interested
1462
01:27:08,202 --> 01:27:11,522
in wine as social
glue, if you like
1463
01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:13,943
what wine could
do for humanity.
1464
01:27:15,934 --> 01:27:19,065
I've been to Lebanon
twice, once in 1970
1465
01:27:19,099 --> 01:27:22,519
when it was absolutely
the jewel of the Middle East
1466
01:27:22,543 --> 01:27:26,043
everyone was having a
great time, very relaxed
1467
01:27:26,097 --> 01:27:32,106
and then again, in 1980, to
visit Chateau Musar with Serge.
1468
01:27:32,325 --> 01:27:34,355
I was traveling with
one other wine writer,
1469
01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:36,486
we had to go through,
I think, three different
1470
01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:39,916
really quite difficult
army checkpoints.
1471
01:27:39,958 --> 01:27:43,095
Serge couldn't come
and meet us at the airport.
1472
01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:47,010
You were very, very aware of
the fact that you were entering
1473
01:27:47,048 --> 01:27:49,538
not a current war
zone but one that could
1474
01:27:50,302 --> 01:27:52,706
return to being a war
zone at any moment.
1475
01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:56,510
- What made you take a
trip to Lebanon in a civil war?
1476
01:27:56,928 --> 01:27:59,128
- That's a very,
very good question.
1477
01:27:59,153 --> 01:28:04,743
I've always loved adventure and
loved travel and been curious
1478
01:28:04,768 --> 01:28:07,338
and always been on
the side of the underdog
1479
01:28:07,363 --> 01:28:10,233
as far as wine is concerned
and Lebanese wine
1480
01:28:10,258 --> 01:28:12,321
was much, much
less well known then
1481
01:28:12,346 --> 01:28:15,559
and I felt it needed
a bit of attention.
1482
01:28:18,738 --> 01:28:22,418
- What I took away from
my experience with Serge
1483
01:28:22,450 --> 01:28:26,584
was less about the
wines in particular
1484
01:28:26,624 --> 01:28:28,464
and more about a way of being.
1485
01:28:29,090 --> 01:28:33,500
What remains in me is this one
particular thing that he said
1486
01:28:33,527 --> 01:28:36,647
that was one of those
sort of clues of life changing
1487
01:28:36,672 --> 01:28:39,108
information that somebody
gives you at an important moment
1488
01:28:39,142 --> 01:28:42,163
and we were sitting on his
balcony, we were drinking this
1489
01:28:42,187 --> 01:28:46,107
1972 wine that he had made
right after he had taken over
1490
01:28:46,132 --> 01:28:49,539
the winery and he was
instructing me on how to...
1491
01:28:49,564 --> 01:28:52,430
he said, "We're gonna sit here
all afternoon and drink this.
1492
01:28:52,454 --> 01:28:54,295
We're gonna
start at three o'clock and
1493
01:28:54,319 --> 01:28:55,728
we're not gonna be
done until nine o'clock,
1494
01:28:55,752 --> 01:28:56,908
this one bottle of wine.
1495
01:28:56,959 --> 01:28:59,005
We're gonna let it sit and then
we're gonna have a little more
1496
01:28:59,032 --> 01:29:00,426
and then we're gonna
talk about it and then
1497
01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:01,954
we're gonna have a little
more and we're gonna
1498
01:29:01,978 --> 01:29:03,651
talk about it, we're gonna
watch the light change
1499
01:29:03,682 --> 01:29:05,002
we're gonna watch
the wine change
1500
01:29:05,027 --> 01:29:06,805
and we're gonna have
this experience together."
1501
01:29:06,956 --> 01:29:10,131
And while he was talking, I
kept trying to kind of impress
1502
01:29:10,168 --> 01:29:12,365
him by telling him
what the wine tasted like
1503
01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:14,639
and he kept saying,
"It's too soon to judge it."
1504
01:29:14,664 --> 01:29:16,084
Now at this point,
1505
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,806
we're three hours in
to one bottle of wine
1506
01:29:18,830 --> 01:29:21,043
and he just kept holding
me back and saying,
1507
01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:23,136
"I don't want your
conclusions on this
1508
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,436
let's just talk about
what it's making you feel
1509
01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:26,883
what it's reminding you of."
1510
01:29:27,106 --> 01:29:29,865
and I kept trying to say,
"Well, it tastes like this"
1511
01:29:29,890 --> 01:29:31,923
and he said, "You don't
know yet what tastes like.
1512
01:29:31,947 --> 01:29:34,673
It hasn't grown yet,
we need to let the wine
1513
01:29:34,697 --> 01:29:36,287
be the whole bottle."
1514
01:29:37,159 --> 01:29:39,716
and he had this wonderful
line where he said
1515
01:29:39,747 --> 01:29:41,273
"Just like people
1516
01:29:42,457 --> 01:29:44,434
wine is something
that you cannot judge
1517
01:29:44,458 --> 01:29:48,279
until you've seen it through
every season of its being.
1518
01:29:49,499 --> 01:29:54,109
So don't rush to a judgment
on anybody or anything until
1519
01:29:54,134 --> 01:29:57,224
you've seen it through every
season of its incarnation."
1520
01:29:59,050 --> 01:30:01,263
And I have never forgotten
that, I cannot tell you
1521
01:30:01,288 --> 01:30:04,258
how many times
when I'm in conflict
1522
01:30:04,283 --> 01:30:06,316
with somebody
in a relationship
1523
01:30:07,727 --> 01:30:10,227
whether it's a friend or
a relative or a neighbor
1524
01:30:11,115 --> 01:30:13,921
I just think we're not done
with this bottle of wine yet.
1525
01:30:13,945 --> 01:30:16,529
Before you start
labeling this person
1526
01:30:16,554 --> 01:30:20,304
or sort of putting them in a
box or deciding something
1527
01:30:20,329 --> 01:30:21,672
about them, just wait.
1528
01:30:22,884 --> 01:30:24,724
You haven't seen them
through all their seasons yet
1529
01:30:24,749 --> 01:30:26,629
this is just a moment
in this person's life
1530
01:30:26,654 --> 01:30:28,594
and you're at a moment in
your own life and tomorrow
1531
01:30:28,630 --> 01:30:30,866
they're gonna be completely
different and so are you
1532
01:30:30,890 --> 01:30:32,446
so just hold back.
1533
01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:33,596
That was always his thing.
1534
01:30:33,620 --> 01:30:35,436
wait, not so fast, right?
1535
01:30:35,460 --> 01:30:39,016
Not so fast and don't judge
it, don't declare anything
1536
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,686
just watch the story unfold
1537
01:30:41,710 --> 01:30:45,133
and that to me is
spiritual mastery.
1538
01:30:48,629 --> 01:30:53,162
- His wines appealed to
people but it was he who really
1539
01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:56,947
gave the wine character
and how he came to die
1540
01:30:56,972 --> 01:30:58,745
again, was very original.
1541
01:31:01,076 --> 01:31:02,510
Going for a walk on the beach
1542
01:31:04,222 --> 01:31:05,902
(melancholy piano music)
1543
01:31:07,499 --> 01:31:08,924
never to be seen again.
1544
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,360
(waves crashing)
1545
01:31:15,799 --> 01:31:16,877
Memorable.
1546
01:31:25,378 --> 01:31:28,204
- The '84 was an
accident at infancy
1547
01:31:28,228 --> 01:31:30,940
born, conceived in accident.
1548
01:31:30,965 --> 01:31:31,995
(chuckling)
1549
01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:33,999
We didn't invent the '84.
1550
01:31:34,151 --> 01:31:37,297
It could have not come to
the winery and there's no story.
1551
01:31:38,613 --> 01:31:40,668
- So you see wine is a miracle
1552
01:31:40,693 --> 01:31:41,989
this is why I believe in wine.
1553
01:31:42,461 --> 01:31:43,967
This is why I'm
giving you all the
1554
01:31:43,991 --> 01:31:45,451
story to give
you a philosophy.
1555
01:31:46,246 --> 01:31:47,289
What is wine?
1556
01:31:47,820 --> 01:31:49,982
Wine is beyond
anything you could think of.
1557
01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:52,209
The biggest medicine on Earth,
1558
01:31:52,905 --> 01:31:53,935
the biggest miracle,
1559
01:31:55,166 --> 01:31:57,817
wine is the link
1560
01:31:57,841 --> 01:32:01,058
between God and humanity.
1561
01:32:01,344 --> 01:32:02,620
Wine is the link.
1562
01:32:03,218 --> 01:32:05,050
Should I continue
or should I stop?
1563
01:32:05,432 --> 01:32:06,701
No, I'll stop.
1564
01:32:06,725 --> 01:32:07,753
Done.
1565
01:32:09,538 --> 01:32:13,940
We imagine that wine
is another product.
1566
01:32:14,483 --> 01:32:17,363
Wine is not another
product, it's another life.
1567
01:32:18,650 --> 01:32:21,566
And because we cannot
master and control life
1568
01:32:21,769 --> 01:32:24,042
we cannot pretend
that we can control wine.
1569
01:32:25,949 --> 01:32:28,115
It's such an
unbelievable teacher
1570
01:32:28,991 --> 01:32:32,834
because wine makes
people communicate
1571
01:32:33,246 --> 01:32:36,152
and when you communicate,
you can make peace
1572
01:32:36,177 --> 01:32:37,339
you don't make war.
1573
01:32:38,044 --> 01:32:40,544
(light music)
1574
01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,347
(upbeat, playful music)
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