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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:15,037 --> 00:00:17,620 (upbeat music) 4 00:00:32,081 --> 00:00:33,361 (rockets firing) 5 00:00:34,870 --> 00:00:35,870 (explosion) 6 00:00:51,864 --> 00:00:52,904 (guns firing) 7 00:00:53,043 --> 00:00:54,483 (soldiers running) 8 00:00:54,753 --> 00:00:55,777 (tank firing) 9 00:00:55,825 --> 00:00:56,825 (explosion) 10 00:01:22,034 --> 00:01:24,600 - Serge, I'd like to just take you back to the beginning, 11 00:01:24,624 --> 00:01:26,249 to the beginning of the- - Ah! 12 00:01:26,827 --> 00:01:28,835 You should remember one thing. 13 00:01:28,860 --> 00:01:32,500 I want you to speak slowly, clearly 14 00:01:32,525 --> 00:01:35,965 in order to allow my brain to get the real sense 15 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:38,317 of what you are intending to get from me. 16 00:01:38,342 --> 00:01:39,398 - Okay. - Got it? 17 00:01:39,422 --> 00:01:40,457 - Got it. - Okay, good. 18 00:01:41,570 --> 00:01:44,362 - Serge, when you remember your childhood. 19 00:01:44,386 --> 00:01:46,867 - Yeah, I told you, you have to speak loudly 20 00:01:46,892 --> 00:01:48,268 because I don't hear 21 00:01:48,300 --> 00:01:52,103 but I want you to speak slowly and loudly on purpose. 22 00:01:52,128 --> 00:01:55,718 I am pushing you, I'm squeezing you, I'm cornering you 23 00:01:55,743 --> 00:01:56,933 you know why? 24 00:01:56,970 --> 00:02:00,984 Because by cornering you, I can abuse your brain my way. 25 00:02:01,523 --> 00:02:02,913 Okay? Okay. 26 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,467 - What do you think shaped you 27 00:02:06,491 --> 00:02:08,296 in your formative years? 28 00:02:08,321 --> 00:02:09,374 - You know, 29 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:13,646 your character is shaped every day 30 00:02:13,671 --> 00:02:16,326 by any thing which happens to you. 31 00:02:17,082 --> 00:02:18,435 When I was seven, 32 00:02:19,541 --> 00:02:22,261 I asked my parents, "Why 33 00:02:22,286 --> 00:02:25,699 did you give me birth without my permission? 34 00:02:26,842 --> 00:02:28,378 You did not ask me to come." 35 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,793 They answered, "Serge, we did not know it would be you." 36 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,651 So this is how I discovered that I was forced to live 37 00:02:36,676 --> 00:02:42,000 against my will and this has been going on for 75 years. 38 00:02:42,398 --> 00:02:45,148 (dramatic music) 39 00:02:53,304 --> 00:02:56,554 Wine does not care about war or no war, 40 00:02:58,487 --> 00:03:02,258 because yeast makes the wine even if people are fighting. 41 00:03:12,307 --> 00:03:18,020 What is older, the wine or humanity? 42 00:03:22,901 --> 00:03:24,689 Because the fruit was there, 43 00:03:25,110 --> 00:03:26,297 the juice was there. 44 00:03:27,594 --> 00:03:29,481 If the juice should leak on the ground, 45 00:03:31,243 --> 00:03:34,243 it will ferment and it will become wine. 46 00:03:37,861 --> 00:03:39,958 So wine made itself before humans. 47 00:03:48,426 --> 00:03:51,566 When humanity started understanding wine 48 00:03:51,596 --> 00:03:56,596 instead of being nomads, where they would take their sheep 49 00:03:56,810 --> 00:03:58,332 and they would have their wheat 50 00:03:59,271 --> 00:04:01,171 and they would move to another place, 51 00:04:02,204 --> 00:04:03,554 wine forced them to settle. 52 00:04:05,167 --> 00:04:07,150 This is why we started civilization. 53 00:04:09,927 --> 00:04:11,607 (stirring string music) 54 00:04:23,461 --> 00:04:26,548 - For us, today, this is a major discovery 55 00:04:26,580 --> 00:04:29,139 because this is the first built wine press 56 00:04:29,176 --> 00:04:32,780 and the first built treading floor that we know of. 57 00:04:32,962 --> 00:04:35,545 - It's a winery, it's a winery. 58 00:04:35,570 --> 00:04:37,670 I'm impressed not by that they were making wine 59 00:04:37,695 --> 00:04:38,893 but by the quality of the vat. 60 00:04:38,935 --> 00:04:41,620 - Exactly, exactly. - Unbelievable, unbelievable. 61 00:04:43,940 --> 00:04:46,515 - What is also interesting is that 62 00:04:46,540 --> 00:04:49,126 in the two shipwrecks that they found 63 00:04:49,150 --> 00:04:51,236 off the shore of Ashkelon. 64 00:04:51,260 --> 00:04:52,826 - Yes, yes, yes. - Some years ago. 65 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:55,386 They found them, they were filled with amphorae 66 00:04:55,410 --> 00:04:57,244 of the 7th century BC. 67 00:04:58,642 --> 00:05:00,612 They contained wine 68 00:05:00,637 --> 00:05:04,195 and the amphorae were Phoenician amphorae 69 00:05:04,220 --> 00:05:06,616 and they presumed that they were taking wine 70 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,136 from here to Egypt and they were shipwrecked. 71 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,926 - This just means that they have reached 72 00:05:10,950 --> 00:05:13,651 a certain technique and a certain... 73 00:05:14,030 --> 00:05:16,093 a sophisticated wine making technique. 74 00:05:16,723 --> 00:05:18,458 - Here we have for the first time 75 00:05:18,483 --> 00:05:20,609 a huge platform. - A big vat. 76 00:05:20,634 --> 00:05:21,656 This is work. - This is work. 77 00:05:21,686 --> 00:05:22,778 This is industry. 78 00:05:23,605 --> 00:05:26,383 - Yeah, so this is quite... 79 00:05:26,441 --> 00:05:28,097 - Impressive. - Yeah. 80 00:05:28,485 --> 00:05:30,469 - This is a magnificent piece of art 81 00:05:30,510 --> 00:05:33,413 and this is clear evidence that they had the know how. 82 00:05:34,610 --> 00:05:36,672 The product that is made from this vat 83 00:05:36,701 --> 00:05:38,434 is extremely important for us. 84 00:05:39,330 --> 00:05:41,849 What they had as resources and what we have now 85 00:05:41,873 --> 00:05:44,298 they still had many things in advance. 86 00:05:45,543 --> 00:05:46,543 (music) 87 00:05:48,557 --> 00:05:49,837 (sound of waves) 88 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,065 - We still need to uncover, 89 00:05:53,090 --> 00:05:57,112 to investigate archeological sites in Lebanon 90 00:05:57,137 --> 00:06:00,952 because there has been hardly any regular 91 00:06:00,976 --> 00:06:04,396 scientific archeological work since 92 00:06:04,421 --> 00:06:07,144 the beginning of the Lebanese War in 1975. 93 00:06:08,404 --> 00:06:11,864 Now during the war because of its location, 94 00:06:12,779 --> 00:06:16,447 in front of the sea this was a very nice area. 95 00:06:16,472 --> 00:06:19,632 When we came we saw that there have been 96 00:06:19,661 --> 00:06:23,891 several trenches, man made trenches 97 00:06:24,749 --> 00:06:29,480 by militias, by people who were trying to loot the site 98 00:06:29,504 --> 00:06:34,025 and all they hit were earth and pebbles. 99 00:06:34,050 --> 00:06:36,666 So they abandoned the site and this is how 100 00:06:36,690 --> 00:06:38,876 the site was preserved for us to come 101 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:41,073 and start regular excavations. 102 00:06:47,605 --> 00:06:50,022 (soft music) 103 00:06:51,155 --> 00:06:55,456 - Ever since I started, my first excavation was in Lebanon... 104 00:06:58,950 --> 00:07:04,292 we have been under the gun, as it were. 105 00:07:06,916 --> 00:07:08,116 (pensive music) 106 00:07:10,497 --> 00:07:14,177 Our site was located south of Sidon 107 00:07:14,202 --> 00:07:16,402 where there was a major Palestinian camp, 108 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,668 so we were about five kilometers away. 109 00:07:19,221 --> 00:07:20,621 You might think, "Oh, well, you know 110 00:07:20,646 --> 00:07:22,074 this is going to be beautiful", right? 111 00:07:22,098 --> 00:07:25,718 The sun's coming up, it was a beautiful Mediterranean day 112 00:07:25,743 --> 00:07:30,453 every day, though, we would have an attack by F-15 jets, 113 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:35,720 from the Israeli Air Force base, called Ramat David. 114 00:07:36,154 --> 00:07:40,494 Well, the place we had lived in, in Israel was Ramat David. 115 00:07:40,742 --> 00:07:44,437 That was-It's right next to the main air force base 116 00:07:44,462 --> 00:07:47,093 and every night when we lived there the previous year, 117 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,390 we would hear the jets taking off to hit Lebanon, 118 00:07:52,462 --> 00:07:55,545 and the Palestinian camp and then now 119 00:07:55,570 --> 00:07:57,817 here I was on the other side of the border 120 00:07:58,528 --> 00:08:01,366 watching dogfights up in the sky 121 00:08:01,390 --> 00:08:04,692 and planes even coming down and 122 00:08:04,717 --> 00:08:07,834 you could see the bombs dropping down on the Palestinian camp 123 00:08:07,894 --> 00:08:11,408 and just huge explosions and then they would shoot out 124 00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:14,104 over the Mediterranean and be gone. 125 00:08:15,068 --> 00:08:16,623 And then you hear the ambulances. 126 00:08:16,647 --> 00:08:18,713 Well, what was so sad, really 127 00:08:18,738 --> 00:08:22,255 was that the ambulances would get into the camp 128 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:27,023 maybe 20 minutes, 25 minutes after the attack 129 00:08:27,070 --> 00:08:29,016 and they were pulling out the bodies, which you'd see 130 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,710 in the front page of the Beirut paper the next day. 131 00:08:31,950 --> 00:08:34,300 This was never reported in the West, by the way 132 00:08:35,133 --> 00:08:39,006 and then as the ambulances were pulling the injured out, 133 00:08:40,008 --> 00:08:42,009 the F-15s would make a second strike. 134 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,813 (airplane flying overhead) (missiles firing, exploding) 135 00:08:45,798 --> 00:08:48,306 So they were coming out just when the ambulances 136 00:08:48,331 --> 00:08:51,071 were taking the injured away, and that always 137 00:08:51,104 --> 00:08:52,754 really affected me, but the most... 138 00:08:55,050 --> 00:08:58,875 awful experience I suppose I had was my wife was up 139 00:08:58,903 --> 00:09:01,907 in Turkey the whole time, living in a Turkish village 140 00:09:01,940 --> 00:09:05,136 and she came down on the day of the largest attack 141 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,263 that I'd ever seen. 142 00:09:07,704 --> 00:09:10,074 Well, she didn't know what to do, so she ran out 143 00:09:10,099 --> 00:09:13,239 onto the ancient pier that runs out to the castle 144 00:09:13,264 --> 00:09:16,981 there in Sidon, and she was alongside Palestinians 145 00:09:17,005 --> 00:09:19,995 with machine guns as the planes came shooting over 146 00:09:20,030 --> 00:09:22,526 at about 20 feet above her head, 147 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:26,776 so she could look eye to eye into the eyes of an Israeli 148 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,416 pilot as they came in, and then the Palestinian 149 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,954 had his machine gun out, trying to knock down this plane 150 00:09:32,979 --> 00:09:34,439 that's going pretty fast. 151 00:09:37,770 --> 00:09:41,422 Despite these attacks I described in the south, 152 00:09:41,446 --> 00:09:43,789 it's an absolutely amazing site. 153 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:50,393 So it was a sad thing when the civil war came. 154 00:09:53,925 --> 00:09:56,562 There's a lot left to learn about Lebanon 155 00:09:56,586 --> 00:10:00,966 as I have already mentioned because of the civil war 156 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,796 and the problems associated with working in Lebanon 157 00:10:03,820 --> 00:10:05,746 as an archeologist, 158 00:10:05,770 --> 00:10:08,516 relatively few excavations have been carried out 159 00:10:08,540 --> 00:10:11,083 in the last 20 or 30 years. 160 00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:18,320 I had great affection for Lebanon because 161 00:10:18,358 --> 00:10:21,798 they're entrepreneurial, certainly, 162 00:10:21,823 --> 00:10:24,876 competitive, but also... 163 00:10:25,808 --> 00:10:28,206 a wonderful place to be because 164 00:10:28,230 --> 00:10:31,117 the people are extremely friendly 165 00:10:31,163 --> 00:10:33,336 and, they have such good food. 166 00:10:34,875 --> 00:10:36,643 All the surrounding countries, we have 167 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:40,148 multiple excavations going on, but nothing quite 168 00:10:40,172 --> 00:10:43,045 as extraordinary, I don't think as the Lebanese coast. 169 00:10:46,418 --> 00:10:50,158 There has always been war, right 170 00:10:50,190 --> 00:10:53,244 in the Middle East, especially in Lebanon 171 00:10:53,268 --> 00:10:55,491 which is at the crossroads of so much. 172 00:10:56,103 --> 00:11:00,076 This is just a continuation of what's been going on forever 173 00:11:00,100 --> 00:11:02,400 and they've been producing wine there forever. 174 00:11:03,612 --> 00:11:06,155 When humans first came out of Africa 175 00:11:07,259 --> 00:11:09,909 about a million years ago 176 00:11:09,951 --> 00:11:12,218 the first place they would have seen 177 00:11:12,243 --> 00:11:14,166 the grape is Lebanon. 178 00:11:16,082 --> 00:11:19,316 They would have been fascinated by vines growing all the way up 179 00:11:19,341 --> 00:11:21,750 the tall cedar of Lebanon trees. 180 00:11:25,223 --> 00:11:26,455 They would see the grapes 181 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:29,065 climbing their way right to the sky 182 00:11:29,090 --> 00:11:30,636 you know, almost to heaven 183 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:34,488 and they must've been absolutely amazed at this fruit 184 00:11:34,513 --> 00:11:39,073 but this grape happens to be ideal for making wine 185 00:11:39,105 --> 00:11:42,233 because once you squash the grape and get the juice out 186 00:11:42,258 --> 00:11:45,004 you've got the perfect medium for the yeast 187 00:11:45,028 --> 00:11:47,756 that are living on the outside of this high sugar fruit 188 00:11:47,780 --> 00:11:49,186 to get active and make wine. 189 00:11:49,850 --> 00:11:52,988 So it wouldn't have been hard for the early humans, 190 00:11:53,013 --> 00:11:54,853 our ancestors coming out of Africa 191 00:11:54,878 --> 00:11:56,581 to figure out how to make wine. 192 00:11:56,998 --> 00:11:58,996 (flute and guitar music) 193 00:11:59,709 --> 00:12:02,265 And I think this was a very large motivator 194 00:12:02,290 --> 00:12:05,681 to humans having year round settlements 195 00:12:05,715 --> 00:12:07,978 and once you've got year round settlements, 196 00:12:08,003 --> 00:12:10,293 then you're gonna get increasingly more 197 00:12:10,318 --> 00:12:13,031 complex societies developing. 198 00:12:14,900 --> 00:12:18,056 So I see that this fermented beverage is really contributing 199 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,124 greatly to the rise of permanent cultures 200 00:12:22,149 --> 00:12:24,359 in settlements that then lead on 201 00:12:24,401 --> 00:12:26,233 into more advanced civilization. 202 00:12:26,319 --> 00:12:28,319 (stirring string and accordion music) 203 00:12:28,572 --> 00:12:31,175 Around 3000 BC, when we get our first 204 00:12:31,199 --> 00:12:34,329 literary records of the Canaanites, 205 00:12:36,008 --> 00:12:38,508 and when we really see that the Canaanites, 206 00:12:38,533 --> 00:12:42,063 who are based in the Levant in Lebanon, 207 00:12:42,088 --> 00:12:44,091 are very active in wine making. 208 00:12:45,922 --> 00:12:49,535 The Canaanite merchants could be real entrepreneurs. 209 00:12:49,560 --> 00:12:51,080 I mean, they could come in and show off 210 00:12:51,105 --> 00:12:54,955 their wares and entice the local rulers 211 00:12:54,980 --> 00:12:56,570 with this new beverage 212 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,057 and they're the first wine merchants. 213 00:13:00,437 --> 00:13:03,785 By the time we get down to the Egyptians 214 00:13:03,810 --> 00:13:09,637 of around 3100 BC, we have wine being imported into Egypt 215 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,481 from the Canaanite territories. 216 00:13:13,032 --> 00:13:15,655 And the Canaanites were experts in wine making already, 217 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:20,216 so it was quite logical to import the wine at first 218 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,060 and so the king, one of the first kings of Egypt 219 00:13:23,084 --> 00:13:28,248 Scorpion I, he brought in 700 very large amphorae 220 00:13:28,273 --> 00:13:31,527 or jars of wine and in fact, the amphora itself 221 00:13:31,551 --> 00:13:33,869 was invented by the Canaanites 222 00:13:33,894 --> 00:13:35,894 and it's often called the Canaanite jar. 223 00:13:38,546 --> 00:13:43,546 Wine is a poetic product, you could say 224 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:47,945 it has all the different flavors and aromas 225 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:50,333 that you associate with memories 226 00:13:50,358 --> 00:13:53,698 and it opens up your mind to other possibilities 227 00:13:53,740 --> 00:13:56,935 it's a mind-altering substance, so... 228 00:13:57,785 --> 00:14:00,205 A lot of what we are as humans 229 00:14:00,230 --> 00:14:04,836 is trying to take our minds 230 00:14:04,860 --> 00:14:07,606 and wrap it around all the mysteries 231 00:14:07,630 --> 00:14:09,133 that exist in the universe. 232 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:15,896 The Canaanite wine was "drunk day and night" 233 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,669 the "fine wine of the Canaanites", 234 00:14:18,693 --> 00:14:22,006 and especially the gods were very involved in this, 235 00:14:22,030 --> 00:14:26,836 so they often overindulged a bit and so we have textual evidence 236 00:14:26,860 --> 00:14:30,920 that sometimes they went home, rather sick, you could say 237 00:14:30,944 --> 00:14:35,547 and we have very vivid accounts of their drunkenness. 238 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:41,636 Drunkenness is a way to make contact 239 00:14:41,660 --> 00:14:43,683 with the gods and with the ancestors. 240 00:14:44,084 --> 00:14:46,302 (upbeat Middle Eastern music) 241 00:14:52,290 --> 00:14:54,690 Coming back to a place that has gone through war 242 00:14:55,233 --> 00:14:57,587 was a real experience. 243 00:14:57,762 --> 00:14:59,902 Every weekend we would go to Beirut, 244 00:15:00,220 --> 00:15:01,909 have parties on the rooftops 245 00:15:01,933 --> 00:15:04,053 and the people were very friendly. 246 00:15:04,078 --> 00:15:07,018 So I think of the Lebanese today as very much 247 00:15:07,060 --> 00:15:09,013 like the Lebanese of antiquity. 248 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,493 It carries on, I think, a lot of the traditions 249 00:15:12,527 --> 00:15:15,070 that have been there for many millennia. 250 00:15:16,713 --> 00:15:19,114 (dramatic music) 251 00:15:20,786 --> 00:15:24,008 If Lebanon wasn't in a constant state of war 252 00:15:24,247 --> 00:15:26,517 we might be able to get a lot more information 253 00:15:26,542 --> 00:15:28,345 about these early periods. 254 00:15:34,532 --> 00:15:39,238 The site of Baalbek was set up by Antoninus Pius, 255 00:15:39,262 --> 00:15:40,685 who came from Carthage. 256 00:15:42,682 --> 00:15:45,732 Even though he's a Roman emperor, he had his roots 257 00:15:45,769 --> 00:15:47,995 in the Phoenician colony of Carthage 258 00:15:48,020 --> 00:15:52,773 so he probably would have worshipped Bacchus too. 259 00:15:57,405 --> 00:15:58,769 The temple to Bacchus is 260 00:15:58,793 --> 00:16:00,676 probably one of the best preserved 261 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:04,705 classical buildings anywhere and it has beautiful 262 00:16:04,730 --> 00:16:08,276 grapevine motifs and some poppy 263 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:10,803 or opium type motifs. 264 00:16:12,212 --> 00:16:14,505 - Bacchus was the god of wine. 265 00:16:17,008 --> 00:16:20,269 During the survey, in the western part of Baalbek 266 00:16:20,294 --> 00:16:24,450 we find a lot of wine presses but we didn't find 267 00:16:24,474 --> 00:16:26,907 a lot of material for exportation 268 00:16:28,270 --> 00:16:31,163 which means wine was used by locals. 269 00:16:33,030 --> 00:16:37,060 Because we didn't find the amphora jars for exportation. 270 00:16:38,822 --> 00:16:42,852 But in fact, we know that according to some mythology, 271 00:16:42,877 --> 00:16:46,139 according to some legends that it was very special, 272 00:16:46,163 --> 00:16:47,896 this party in Baalbek. 273 00:16:49,749 --> 00:16:51,622 Wine is part of the ceremony. 274 00:16:52,586 --> 00:16:54,917 - The first commercial wine came from Lebanon. 275 00:16:55,378 --> 00:16:57,189 This is where the Romans put their god, 276 00:16:57,214 --> 00:16:58,894 where they get the best results 277 00:16:58,924 --> 00:17:00,145 and that's what would happen 278 00:17:00,170 --> 00:17:03,337 they put Bacchus in the Bekaa, it's not me who is saying it 279 00:17:03,362 --> 00:17:06,641 it's the great Roman Empire, who did make wine all 280 00:17:06,683 --> 00:17:09,009 over the world, the Old World, 281 00:17:09,034 --> 00:17:12,761 and they chose to put Bacchus in the temple of Baalbek. 282 00:17:13,707 --> 00:17:16,877 The great civilizations that say, this is the region 283 00:17:16,902 --> 00:17:18,682 where you can plant grapes, 284 00:17:18,707 --> 00:17:20,607 this is the Bordeaux of the Old World. 285 00:17:24,095 --> 00:17:28,930 - The Romans liked to take their gods into the furthest corner 286 00:17:28,954 --> 00:17:30,916 of their empire and the Bekaa Valley 287 00:17:30,957 --> 00:17:32,887 was an agricultural area 288 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,280 in which the cult of Bacchus 289 00:17:36,338 --> 00:17:41,511 that revolved around the seasonal cycle 290 00:17:41,551 --> 00:17:45,111 of planting and harvesting and resurrection 291 00:17:45,136 --> 00:17:46,359 was very powerful. 292 00:17:50,444 --> 00:17:52,907 - People in this period, the Pagan Period, 293 00:17:52,938 --> 00:17:56,540 they believed more about the power of wine and gods. 294 00:17:59,902 --> 00:18:02,314 (pensive music) 295 00:18:03,697 --> 00:18:06,769 (music continues) (muffled, echoing hammer blows) 296 00:18:12,011 --> 00:18:15,175 When we heard the first time about Daesh and ISIS 297 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,103 and the problem and what they did, 298 00:18:18,138 --> 00:18:21,550 the aggressivity behind something like Palmyra. 299 00:18:21,864 --> 00:18:23,871 (eerie music) 300 00:18:26,333 --> 00:18:28,184 (explosion) 301 00:18:30,183 --> 00:18:34,033 I'm afraid because they can do the same here. 302 00:18:34,058 --> 00:18:36,191 I think we are lucky. 303 00:18:40,893 --> 00:18:43,393 (eerie music) 304 00:18:44,738 --> 00:18:45,778 (light music) 305 00:18:47,999 --> 00:18:51,689 - The first thing you will understand in the Bacchus temple 306 00:18:51,714 --> 00:18:55,589 that it was a temple for weed, wine and sex 307 00:18:55,625 --> 00:18:57,822 and that was happening 2,000 years ago. 308 00:19:00,075 --> 00:19:03,465 The beautiful terroir of Baalbek is at 1,000 meters altitude, 309 00:19:03,490 --> 00:19:05,206 where we decided to plant 310 00:19:05,231 --> 00:19:06,855 Grenache Noir and Grenache Blanc 311 00:19:08,010 --> 00:19:09,433 just in front of cannabis. 312 00:19:10,402 --> 00:19:14,582 I think it's still too far for Lebanon to take that decision 313 00:19:14,607 --> 00:19:18,747 in legalizing the weed because I was called by this region 314 00:19:18,772 --> 00:19:21,740 to advise them in order to plant grapes 315 00:19:21,776 --> 00:19:23,209 instead of cannabis. 316 00:19:23,737 --> 00:19:28,092 People decided to try some crops other than the cannabis 317 00:19:28,116 --> 00:19:31,216 because cannabis was always a risky crop in that area. 318 00:19:31,241 --> 00:19:33,292 If I wasn't from the Bekaa Valley 319 00:19:33,317 --> 00:19:36,417 and if I wasn't with these genes, 320 00:19:36,442 --> 00:19:38,839 if I call them genes of the war, 321 00:19:38,877 --> 00:19:41,596 I would never accept to do such a project in that area 322 00:19:41,620 --> 00:19:45,260 in Baalbek, which is known for its dangerous reputation. 323 00:19:47,427 --> 00:19:50,823 And with a bit of luck, because we are lucky people 324 00:19:50,847 --> 00:19:54,336 although we are in the middle of a war zone, 325 00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:58,111 we are lucky people to have this beautiful nature 326 00:19:58,146 --> 00:20:02,536 that gives us so much potential in growing vines, 327 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,013 producing wines and telling the story. 328 00:20:06,641 --> 00:20:09,141 (light music) 329 00:20:35,140 --> 00:20:39,866 - Lebanon has been a country of refuge 330 00:20:39,891 --> 00:20:42,464 than a country of population. 331 00:20:43,845 --> 00:20:48,714 Lebanon's population has been constituted by refugees 332 00:20:48,738 --> 00:20:51,468 since the inception of Lebanon. 333 00:20:52,576 --> 00:20:55,889 We are a combination of population from the whole world, 334 00:20:56,371 --> 00:20:57,791 from the whole religions 335 00:20:58,335 --> 00:21:01,975 I usually tell, okay, in the States you are a melting pot 336 00:21:02,625 --> 00:21:04,663 but you are the last melting pot. 337 00:21:04,688 --> 00:21:07,842 In Lebanon, we are the first melting pot of humanity, 338 00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:12,333 and this is why in Lebanon, even with the situation we have 339 00:21:12,358 --> 00:21:15,836 we are accepting the millions of Syrians coming to Lebanon. 340 00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:19,661 So this is why to say, Lebanon is not a country 341 00:21:19,685 --> 00:21:21,146 it's the country of the whole world. 342 00:21:21,854 --> 00:21:23,214 (birds squawking) 343 00:21:26,078 --> 00:21:29,547 - Dad would say, "Look at the ruby color 344 00:21:29,571 --> 00:21:30,904 isn't that beautiful?" 345 00:21:32,262 --> 00:21:36,327 The situation in Lebanon today is very hard, 346 00:21:36,398 --> 00:21:37,398 with a... 347 00:21:40,499 --> 00:21:43,552 next war situation, or call it whatever, 348 00:21:44,628 --> 00:21:46,228 but I don't look at it that way. 349 00:21:47,035 --> 00:21:52,035 My only conviction is to my family. 350 00:21:52,597 --> 00:21:56,908 My father was a general in the Lebanese Army 351 00:21:56,932 --> 00:22:00,625 and I looked up at him like my hero, my hero. 352 00:22:01,448 --> 00:22:04,698 At the age of 11, he put a gun in my hands 353 00:22:04,723 --> 00:22:08,163 and he said, "It's gonna... 354 00:22:09,787 --> 00:22:15,545 send you back a little but you try to stay as firm as you can 355 00:22:15,574 --> 00:22:17,966 and you shoot in the middle. 356 00:22:17,991 --> 00:22:19,863 It's like if you are shooting somebody 357 00:22:19,887 --> 00:22:21,952 between the eyes, you got it?" 358 00:22:22,165 --> 00:22:24,741 I said, "Yes, Dad, I'm gonna do my best." 359 00:22:25,544 --> 00:22:26,967 I enjoyed it actually. 360 00:22:28,130 --> 00:22:31,847 It's a terrible thing to tell a child of 11 to do that 361 00:22:32,134 --> 00:22:33,538 but he meant it. 362 00:22:34,482 --> 00:22:37,970 To have his daughters be strong 363 00:22:38,740 --> 00:22:43,306 and up to any situation life would bring you along. 364 00:22:43,331 --> 00:22:45,214 He prepared us, actually 365 00:22:46,283 --> 00:22:50,241 it has always been part of my life, wine and war. 366 00:22:52,028 --> 00:22:57,028 We are four sisters and I was the one who liked best 367 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,928 to be next to him and to enjoy making wine. 368 00:23:01,371 --> 00:23:04,734 And that was a dream of his which came true. 369 00:23:05,570 --> 00:23:10,030 I loved the idea of him starting a winery 370 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,175 and he didn't need to be encouraged 371 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,483 he was so passionate about everything he did 372 00:23:18,430 --> 00:23:22,020 well, sad enough, he left us... 373 00:23:23,226 --> 00:23:29,444 and since then I took it upon myself to continue his heritage. 374 00:23:30,402 --> 00:23:34,522 I'm very proud of having a dad like this 375 00:23:34,932 --> 00:23:39,932 and for me to carry on his legacy 376 00:23:40,112 --> 00:23:41,995 wasn't an easy thing. 377 00:23:45,779 --> 00:23:49,509 I don't know whether to say that a woman in a man's world 378 00:23:49,544 --> 00:23:55,687 is an easy task, but it was worth trying. 379 00:24:06,561 --> 00:24:08,111 - Today, if you were to name one 380 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,706 winery in the region or in the near region 381 00:24:11,731 --> 00:24:16,151 that is really having to fight 382 00:24:17,891 --> 00:24:20,501 to get its wines made 383 00:24:20,526 --> 00:24:23,989 it has got to be Domaine de Bargylus in Syria. 384 00:24:25,290 --> 00:24:29,230 The owners had a wonderful vision 385 00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:33,782 about making a Syrian wine 386 00:24:33,807 --> 00:24:37,576 and even getting praise from the likes of Jancis Robinson 387 00:24:37,601 --> 00:24:40,508 who says Domaine de Bargylus is arguably 388 00:24:40,533 --> 00:24:44,313 the best red wine in the Eastern Mediterranean today 389 00:24:44,338 --> 00:24:47,181 and this wine is being made in a civil war! 390 00:24:48,060 --> 00:24:49,063 How does that work? 391 00:24:49,217 --> 00:24:50,497 (tanks rumbling) 392 00:24:51,263 --> 00:24:53,953 - We've inherited a region of instability. 393 00:24:53,978 --> 00:24:59,279 Back in 2003, when we decided to plant the first vines 394 00:24:59,304 --> 00:25:02,920 in Syria and almost at the same time in Lebanon. 395 00:25:03,289 --> 00:25:07,974 We loved the idea that being from Syria and Lebanon 396 00:25:07,998 --> 00:25:11,683 we could actually do wine in both countries 397 00:25:11,708 --> 00:25:14,638 because let's not forget that doing wine 398 00:25:14,663 --> 00:25:18,123 and planting a vineyard is also a statement 399 00:25:18,148 --> 00:25:23,634 of implanting yourself on a very long term. 400 00:25:23,845 --> 00:25:26,675 When you plant a vine, I think you're saying 401 00:25:26,700 --> 00:25:27,985 I'm here to stay. 402 00:25:28,018 --> 00:25:30,768 (dramatic music) 403 00:25:34,394 --> 00:25:37,701 When the war started in Syria, there was a moment 404 00:25:37,726 --> 00:25:42,088 of questioning whether we could be able to continue 405 00:25:42,113 --> 00:25:45,686 producing there, and what we did later on is adapt... 406 00:25:45,792 --> 00:25:46,792 (explosion) 407 00:25:48,210 --> 00:25:50,830 because the most important thing for us was to continue 408 00:25:50,855 --> 00:25:55,061 producing high quality wine and also keeping 409 00:25:55,085 --> 00:25:57,867 the people who worked for us in the winery 410 00:25:57,892 --> 00:26:00,065 because around them everybody left. 411 00:26:02,069 --> 00:26:06,197 One day we get a call from our engineer in Syria 412 00:26:06,221 --> 00:26:09,849 and he tells us that people are fighting 413 00:26:09,874 --> 00:26:12,745 just 500 meters away from the winery. 414 00:26:12,770 --> 00:26:17,396 That moment was really putting in question everything. 415 00:26:17,859 --> 00:26:22,619 We didn't know if we've lost the whole installations 416 00:26:22,644 --> 00:26:25,484 the winery, the vineyard and also the people 417 00:26:25,509 --> 00:26:28,589 who worked for us, we had about three or four hours 418 00:26:28,614 --> 00:26:30,014 where we didn't have any contact. 419 00:26:30,038 --> 00:26:32,118 Everything could have happened. 420 00:26:45,303 --> 00:26:47,115 It's been at least five years 421 00:26:47,139 --> 00:26:50,537 that we haven't been going to Syria, to our winery. 422 00:26:50,976 --> 00:26:53,584 We are producing wine without going there 423 00:26:53,609 --> 00:26:56,138 and it's critical to taste the grapes 424 00:26:56,163 --> 00:26:59,519 before we determine the dates of the harvest 425 00:26:59,544 --> 00:27:03,554 and what we do is we ship by taxi the little grapes 426 00:27:03,579 --> 00:27:06,079 and we taste them here in this conference room. 427 00:27:07,220 --> 00:27:11,051 And this involves a lot of time and a lot of challenges 428 00:27:11,455 --> 00:27:14,880 and we're doing wine when all odds are against us. 429 00:27:15,125 --> 00:27:18,479 So all is managed over the phone and through contacts 430 00:27:18,503 --> 00:27:21,166 and communications and this is even more difficult. 431 00:27:22,048 --> 00:27:23,311 It's almost impossible. 432 00:27:24,393 --> 00:27:27,443 When we turn off the lights, hoping 433 00:27:28,346 --> 00:27:32,846 that the next day wouldn't be worse than this one 434 00:27:32,871 --> 00:27:35,104 it's relatively a good thing. 435 00:27:38,065 --> 00:27:40,710 - It's not normal, that we suffer in Lebanon 436 00:27:40,734 --> 00:27:42,944 of whatever happens in the area. 437 00:27:43,065 --> 00:27:44,795 Why is it Lebanon? 438 00:27:44,863 --> 00:27:48,090 Because we are small, because we are more open, 439 00:27:48,115 --> 00:27:51,355 because we have the sympathy 440 00:27:52,037 --> 00:27:55,817 of all countries to interfere in our internal affairs 441 00:27:55,857 --> 00:27:58,519 I don't know, the mosaic of communities 442 00:27:58,543 --> 00:27:59,978 certainly is a factor. 443 00:28:00,170 --> 00:28:03,330 We have a lot of Christian communities. 444 00:28:03,381 --> 00:28:05,692 Shia, Sunni, Druze 445 00:28:05,717 --> 00:28:06,937 Alawites, et cetera. 446 00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:12,358 Our strength is this multitude of communities 447 00:28:12,641 --> 00:28:15,679 because when it works, it works so well. 448 00:28:16,144 --> 00:28:19,948 Sometimes it doesn't work and you know how the medias are 449 00:28:19,973 --> 00:28:23,792 they always emphasize on trouble, on problems 450 00:28:23,817 --> 00:28:26,858 and they don't talk of the beautiful aspect of life. 451 00:28:27,271 --> 00:28:30,796 I would assure you that I don't know one foreigner 452 00:28:31,157 --> 00:28:34,965 regardless of his nationality, who didn't come to Lebanon 453 00:28:35,027 --> 00:28:37,626 and who didn't fall in love with our country. 454 00:28:37,845 --> 00:28:40,675 A country with such a high civilization, 455 00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:43,926 with a lot of culture, with a lot of history, 456 00:28:43,951 --> 00:28:48,556 with a wonderful climate and our duty as wine producers, 457 00:28:48,581 --> 00:28:52,431 as business people, as people who believe in Lebanon 458 00:28:52,456 --> 00:28:56,088 is to change this idea people have about Lebanon. 459 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:59,634 We are sure one day peace will prevail 460 00:28:59,875 --> 00:29:02,726 and Lebanon will regain its importance 461 00:29:02,941 --> 00:29:05,952 in the Middle East, not to say in the whole world. 462 00:29:07,044 --> 00:29:09,461 (soft music) 463 00:29:11,658 --> 00:29:15,148 - We are an area that has been invaded over 464 00:29:15,173 --> 00:29:18,850 2,500 years by all types of invaders 465 00:29:18,874 --> 00:29:20,890 and that changed the culture. 466 00:29:21,418 --> 00:29:24,355 When today we talk about our wine, 467 00:29:24,379 --> 00:29:27,896 people's first impression is they're surprised. 468 00:29:27,921 --> 00:29:29,012 "Don't you have war?" 469 00:29:29,968 --> 00:29:32,000 We say, "Yeah, we had war." 470 00:29:32,350 --> 00:29:34,989 But one has to be realistic, you know? 471 00:29:36,739 --> 00:29:38,829 You'd better be careful of what you do 472 00:29:38,854 --> 00:29:41,387 or where you go or follow news... 473 00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:47,166 But anything can happen, we are living on a volcano. 474 00:29:54,367 --> 00:29:58,017 - We live in a part of the world that has been invaded 475 00:29:58,163 --> 00:30:03,163 and conquered and fought over continuously 476 00:30:03,376 --> 00:30:05,640 from the Crusaders to the Mamluks 477 00:30:05,670 --> 00:30:08,481 to the Ottoman Empire, to the French, 478 00:30:08,505 --> 00:30:11,680 to the Lebanese civil war, to Israeli conflicts, 479 00:30:11,705 --> 00:30:13,989 post civil war and now we've even got ISIS 480 00:30:14,014 --> 00:30:15,364 knocking on our front door. 481 00:30:16,348 --> 00:30:19,108 We live in a bad neighborhood, we live in a neighborhood 482 00:30:19,142 --> 00:30:22,672 with Israel to the south, we've now got a war-torn Syria 483 00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:26,588 to our east and even within our own society 484 00:30:26,613 --> 00:30:28,346 there's a lot of conflict, there's a lot of tension, 485 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:29,713 there's a lot of friction. 486 00:30:30,052 --> 00:30:32,232 And staying with this, I think 487 00:30:32,257 --> 00:30:34,383 one of the most remarkable stories 488 00:30:34,407 --> 00:30:36,057 in the history of the Lebanese wine industry 489 00:30:36,090 --> 00:30:38,885 has got to be the story of Serge Hochar 490 00:30:38,912 --> 00:30:42,042 who is arguably one of the famous winemakers 491 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,268 of his generation. 492 00:30:43,526 --> 00:30:47,539 Not only did he put Lebanon's flag on the world wine map, 493 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,433 he made a remarkable wine. 494 00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:54,503 One of the most remarkable wines you're ever likely 495 00:30:54,528 --> 00:30:56,589 to taste, be it the red or the white. 496 00:30:57,625 --> 00:31:01,255 And he had an intrinsic understanding between wine 497 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,266 and humanity and in that respect, he was a guru 498 00:31:04,604 --> 00:31:06,914 I mean, Serge was a war hero in the respect that 499 00:31:06,939 --> 00:31:11,839 he was picking his grapes under the guns of every militia 500 00:31:11,864 --> 00:31:14,454 in the world: there were the Syrians, there were the Israelis 501 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,592 there were the Palestinians, There was the Baader Meinhof 502 00:31:16,616 --> 00:31:18,248 there was the Japanese Red Army. 503 00:31:18,367 --> 00:31:20,834 When people opened a bottle in London or in New York 504 00:31:20,859 --> 00:31:23,979 or in Tokyo, they were uncorking conflict 505 00:31:24,004 --> 00:31:28,334 there was a whiff of war in every bottle of wine 506 00:31:28,359 --> 00:31:31,879 that they opened, Serge was a magician on so many fronts, 507 00:31:32,802 --> 00:31:35,935 and Lebanon had a giant. 508 00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:42,376 - If you are a "fear person" 509 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,883 if you have fear, you are a dead person. 510 00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:50,668 My father had no clue about wine 511 00:31:51,190 --> 00:31:53,009 and he started the winery. 512 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:56,803 My father wanted me to be in the winery, I did not want. 513 00:31:58,001 --> 00:32:00,173 I wanted to be a monk in the mountains. 514 00:32:00,825 --> 00:32:01,861 Yeah. 515 00:32:03,163 --> 00:32:04,651 I wanted to be on my own. 516 00:32:06,124 --> 00:32:07,184 Do nothing. 517 00:32:08,251 --> 00:32:11,352 My father forced me and because I was the eldest 518 00:32:11,377 --> 00:32:14,122 in the family, I had to accept the responsibility. 519 00:32:14,683 --> 00:32:16,173 And when I came to the winery, 520 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,696 for the harvest, the first day the truck arrived 521 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,934 I tasted the juice, it was good, I did taste it. 522 00:32:25,305 --> 00:32:28,572 Two days later, it started to be sparkling, 523 00:32:28,597 --> 00:32:30,816 it started to have bubbles into it, 524 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,827 so I was wondering what it was. 525 00:32:32,941 --> 00:32:35,710 I understood that this was the miracle of the wine, 526 00:32:35,737 --> 00:32:37,147 the miracle of life. 527 00:32:37,402 --> 00:32:39,545 This is why I became a believer in life. 528 00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:41,632 Okay? 529 00:32:43,192 --> 00:32:46,192 Being a believer, doesn't mean you are religious. 530 00:32:46,308 --> 00:32:48,975 (bells ringing) 531 00:32:52,337 --> 00:32:57,178 - When I came back from making wine in Palestine and Israel, 532 00:32:57,735 --> 00:33:02,141 I was convinced that wine was a good substance. 533 00:33:04,381 --> 00:33:10,379 We should learn about it, love it and drink it. 534 00:33:14,151 --> 00:33:19,401 If it is abused in order to get drunk, 535 00:33:20,532 --> 00:33:22,514 then it can be used for war. 536 00:33:22,657 --> 00:33:28,540 But if wine is used as an essence of nature to be happy, 537 00:33:28,581 --> 00:33:32,834 it becomes a product for peace and not war. 538 00:33:35,564 --> 00:33:39,691 Since the 1960's, the Lebanese church wanted 539 00:33:39,716 --> 00:33:44,988 the Trappist monks to become established in Lebanon. 540 00:33:46,008 --> 00:33:47,851 We never responded to their request 541 00:33:47,876 --> 00:33:50,499 until the civil war started. 542 00:33:51,436 --> 00:33:52,925 When I came to Lebanon, 543 00:33:52,949 --> 00:33:55,692 I introduced myself to the Patriarch Khreich 544 00:33:55,721 --> 00:33:58,358 who asked me a question... 545 00:33:59,556 --> 00:34:01,655 "We have been asking you to come for a long time 546 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,022 why have you just come now in the midst of war? 547 00:34:06,267 --> 00:34:12,531 You won't get out of here alive. 548 00:34:13,762 --> 00:34:17,437 Why couldn't you have come when there was peace?" 549 00:34:18,799 --> 00:34:22,483 There was something more than shells 550 00:34:22,508 --> 00:34:25,847 and destruction that brought me here. 551 00:34:26,742 --> 00:34:30,729 God asked me to sow peace in Lebanon. 552 00:34:31,142 --> 00:34:34,060 So I took action, and that's 553 00:34:34,105 --> 00:34:40,111 when I decided to be a symbol of unity in the country. 554 00:34:44,783 --> 00:34:46,882 - Day by day, Israeli war planes 555 00:34:46,910 --> 00:34:49,648 have bombed the Palestinian quarter of Beirut. 556 00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:53,874 Visions of fear and destruction from the heavens 557 00:34:53,899 --> 00:34:56,262 a justice that seems less than divine. 558 00:35:00,382 --> 00:35:03,422 - In the beginning, none of us 559 00:35:03,447 --> 00:35:06,179 thought that it would last so long. 560 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:10,349 Of course, we were optimistic, saying that fine 561 00:35:10,392 --> 00:35:13,892 it's part of the conflicts that are part 562 00:35:13,917 --> 00:35:18,333 of the political life of this country 563 00:35:18,358 --> 00:35:21,918 but no one thought that it would come to a point 564 00:35:21,943 --> 00:35:24,916 where we would be unable to reach even 565 00:35:24,941 --> 00:35:27,484 where the winery and fields were. 566 00:35:28,459 --> 00:35:31,010 The communities amongst themselves 567 00:35:31,035 --> 00:35:36,318 did not used to hate each other, this happened out of the blue. 568 00:35:36,418 --> 00:35:41,418 When the tribes that live in the Bekaa Valley 569 00:35:41,443 --> 00:35:45,353 started taking active part in the conflict 570 00:35:45,378 --> 00:35:49,088 it became, unfortunately, a kind of ethnic 571 00:35:49,113 --> 00:35:53,413 religious war and very soon 572 00:35:53,438 --> 00:35:56,548 there was no more anything 573 00:35:56,573 --> 00:35:59,926 which could be called a country. 574 00:36:04,193 --> 00:36:07,393 It was in the mountains of Sofar 575 00:36:07,418 --> 00:36:11,738 and those militias surrounded my car. 576 00:36:11,763 --> 00:36:14,476 "What are you doing here", I said, "It's the end of the month 577 00:36:14,501 --> 00:36:17,914 and I have to pay the wages of the people." 578 00:36:18,124 --> 00:36:21,323 They said, "Are you going to think that we will believe 579 00:36:21,347 --> 00:36:25,053 that you can expose yourself to such danger 580 00:36:25,077 --> 00:36:28,474 and go to pay the people and their wages? 581 00:36:28,997 --> 00:36:30,989 Then, obviously you are a spy." 582 00:36:31,215 --> 00:36:33,968 Of course, the sentence was death. 583 00:36:36,535 --> 00:36:39,938 They entrusted me to the care of one of them. 584 00:36:40,816 --> 00:36:45,816 I had to go with him because he had his gun in my back. 585 00:36:48,016 --> 00:36:51,216 By that time we arrived at the place where 586 00:36:51,241 --> 00:36:53,244 he decided to shoot me. 587 00:36:54,537 --> 00:36:56,797 I was very calm, I don't know why. 588 00:36:57,028 --> 00:36:59,633 But I was expecting the 589 00:36:59,668 --> 00:37:01,289 (makes gun firing sound) (laughs) 590 00:37:01,378 --> 00:37:02,391 to shoot me, 591 00:37:03,505 --> 00:37:07,438 and it seems, well, my time had not yet come. 592 00:37:09,261 --> 00:37:14,261 Someone came out of the tent, which they had there 593 00:37:14,474 --> 00:37:17,954 and it happened to be the man from whom 594 00:37:17,979 --> 00:37:22,407 we had rented our house in Sofar 595 00:37:23,245 --> 00:37:27,478 and he knew that I was a friend of a certain 596 00:37:27,503 --> 00:37:29,003 Kamal Jumblatt, 597 00:37:29,406 --> 00:37:33,803 who was a very important man of their community 598 00:37:34,161 --> 00:37:35,728 and he said, "What are you doing? 599 00:37:35,807 --> 00:37:39,202 This man is very important, he's the very close friend of 600 00:37:39,227 --> 00:37:40,651 Kamal Jumblatt, 601 00:37:40,676 --> 00:37:41,905 and you will have to pay for it." 602 00:37:43,044 --> 00:37:45,565 He said, "Okay, okay, let him go." 603 00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:48,607 They kept the car but they let me go. 604 00:37:52,305 --> 00:37:54,198 - Once a war starts, you must understand 605 00:37:54,222 --> 00:37:56,224 that it can last for 20 years 606 00:37:56,249 --> 00:37:59,089 so you have to plan, today 607 00:37:59,114 --> 00:38:01,284 all the future of the winery 608 00:38:01,309 --> 00:38:03,712 keeping in mind that it will take 20 years. 609 00:38:07,394 --> 00:38:10,590 This is how I understood that Lebanon is a country 610 00:38:10,614 --> 00:38:11,914 which is always 611 00:38:13,110 --> 00:38:17,840 in a situation of unrest, peace, unrest, peace 612 00:38:17,910 --> 00:38:20,258 but once you have unrest, it can last for long. 613 00:38:20,415 --> 00:38:24,435 My philosophy was to look for markets outside Lebanon 614 00:38:24,517 --> 00:38:29,517 because in 1975, our sales in Lebanon dropped by 90%. 615 00:38:30,971 --> 00:38:33,810 The characteristic in the genes of Lebanese people 616 00:38:33,835 --> 00:38:36,685 has been to fight for survival 617 00:38:36,723 --> 00:38:38,342 elsewhere from their country. 618 00:38:38,934 --> 00:38:42,209 And I started tasting the world 619 00:38:42,234 --> 00:38:44,037 and this is when I came back to Lebanon 620 00:38:44,061 --> 00:38:46,445 and I understood that Lebanon was a little bit different 621 00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:47,561 from the rest of the world. 622 00:38:47,818 --> 00:38:50,698 So I decided to continue myself making wine 623 00:38:50,723 --> 00:38:54,467 until the day war will finish and I will see what I'll do. 624 00:38:55,367 --> 00:38:58,631 - The horizon was very cloudy in Lebanon. 625 00:38:59,246 --> 00:39:02,733 It wasn't easy, it was very costly. 626 00:39:02,758 --> 00:39:05,158 We sat, we discussed it together and said, "Look... 627 00:39:07,295 --> 00:39:08,755 What are the options?" 628 00:39:09,595 --> 00:39:11,675 No risk-taking 629 00:39:12,512 --> 00:39:15,856 or why not play the game? As both ourselves were of the 630 00:39:15,881 --> 00:39:18,903 same character, "Why not, let's do it." We took the risk 631 00:39:18,932 --> 00:39:21,315 to do it and that's why the story started. 632 00:39:22,379 --> 00:39:25,813 - In 1975, Serge and his brother went for broke 633 00:39:26,172 --> 00:39:29,896 and like the Lebanese have done for thousands of years 634 00:39:29,921 --> 00:39:33,630 they packed their bags and they took their wares abroad, 635 00:39:34,906 --> 00:39:36,056 and they went to London, 636 00:39:36,939 --> 00:39:39,612 and were carrying their wines around in suitcases 637 00:39:39,637 --> 00:39:42,014 going from door to door, trying to sell these 638 00:39:42,038 --> 00:39:44,934 crazy wines from a crazy country that no one 639 00:39:44,958 --> 00:39:47,881 really knew about and that was the gamble. 640 00:39:49,003 --> 00:39:50,303 - It was an appalling war 641 00:39:50,805 --> 00:39:54,859 and Serge continued making wine 642 00:39:55,434 --> 00:39:58,039 as if nothing had happened and I wrote about it. 643 00:39:58,457 --> 00:40:03,212 I was actually credited with discovering the wine. 644 00:40:03,292 --> 00:40:04,617 A chap came to our stand and said 645 00:40:04,642 --> 00:40:07,143 "You really must come right away 646 00:40:07,167 --> 00:40:09,902 there are some wines which I think you must, must taste." 647 00:40:10,025 --> 00:40:12,837 And I'd never tasted any wine like it before 648 00:40:12,861 --> 00:40:14,825 it was so distinctive, 649 00:40:14,850 --> 00:40:16,796 and it was not Bordeaux, it was not Burgundy 650 00:40:16,821 --> 00:40:18,169 it was not trying to be anything. 651 00:40:18,735 --> 00:40:21,929 - The paradoxical aspect is the contrast between 652 00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:25,540 a wine of this quality, the man and his philosophy 653 00:40:25,565 --> 00:40:27,645 coming from the country which was, unfortunately 654 00:40:27,670 --> 00:40:29,672 described, as a third world country. 655 00:40:30,459 --> 00:40:31,500 Unknown. 656 00:40:31,696 --> 00:40:33,838 The press coverage wasn't so favorable 657 00:40:33,870 --> 00:40:36,136 and so on, you know, "What are you doing here 658 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,638 coming from Lebanon?" 659 00:40:37,663 --> 00:40:39,976 Refugees, between quotes. 660 00:40:40,972 --> 00:40:43,055 Refugees? We are not refugees. 661 00:40:44,351 --> 00:40:45,482 We're adventurers! 662 00:40:45,507 --> 00:40:46,708 (chuckling) 663 00:40:46,868 --> 00:40:47,931 We're not refugees. 664 00:40:50,450 --> 00:40:53,526 - In the 70's, 80's, Lebanon was being talked about 665 00:40:53,550 --> 00:40:56,112 because of war, not anything else. 666 00:40:56,137 --> 00:40:59,387 And at the time my father traveling the world 667 00:40:59,412 --> 00:41:02,112 would be an ambassador because he would talk about 668 00:41:02,140 --> 00:41:03,776 the history of the country, about the culture 669 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,891 of the country, about the wines of the country 670 00:41:05,916 --> 00:41:09,310 and so it was showing an image of Lebanon 671 00:41:09,334 --> 00:41:11,594 which was something completely different than 672 00:41:11,619 --> 00:41:14,492 what people were used to seeing on the news and on TV. 673 00:41:15,549 --> 00:41:18,549 Phoenicians were traders, they were not conquerors 674 00:41:18,574 --> 00:41:20,694 they were conquering by trade and not conquering 675 00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,037 by weapons and arms. 676 00:41:22,139 --> 00:41:25,179 We are, today, showing our products 677 00:41:25,204 --> 00:41:27,224 by touring the world, proposing them 678 00:41:27,269 --> 00:41:29,799 like Phoenicians used to showcase them 679 00:41:29,824 --> 00:41:32,037 around the Mediterranean 5,000 years ago. 680 00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:38,019 - One day, I was in Beirut and the Syrians were shelling 681 00:41:38,044 --> 00:41:39,379 heavily Achrafieh 682 00:41:39,403 --> 00:41:42,367 so in my building, the people went to the shelter 683 00:41:42,412 --> 00:41:44,512 they called me and I said, "No, I will not go to the shelter. 684 00:41:44,537 --> 00:41:45,697 I'll stay in my room." 685 00:41:47,808 --> 00:41:52,228 I went to my cellar, I discovered the bottle of 1972. 686 00:41:52,253 --> 00:41:55,283 I had a very big glass of Baccarat, which takes 687 00:41:55,308 --> 00:41:58,768 one liter and a half, so I took my bottle of '72 688 00:41:58,793 --> 00:42:01,537 decanted all of it in this glass. 689 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:02,762 The glass was half full 690 00:42:03,889 --> 00:42:07,577 and I took it to my room, sat on my bed 691 00:42:07,601 --> 00:42:10,201 and each time there was a shell, I would take a sip. 692 00:42:11,730 --> 00:42:13,063 I did not want to go out. 693 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,523 So this is how I discovered that once you taste 694 00:42:20,530 --> 00:42:22,313 you use one thing 695 00:42:23,033 --> 00:42:24,616 you use your brain. 696 00:42:25,885 --> 00:42:27,611 The ability of your brain to taste 697 00:42:27,636 --> 00:42:29,786 depends on the conditions in which you are. 698 00:42:31,238 --> 00:42:33,338 If you have shells coming on your head 699 00:42:33,376 --> 00:42:35,426 you taste but you are affected by shells. 700 00:42:38,370 --> 00:42:41,710 So this, in one way, made that the wine was different 701 00:42:42,506 --> 00:42:44,132 in the situation in which I was. 702 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:46,976 (sound of shells exploding) 703 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,707 So I understood that your interpretation of the wine 704 00:42:50,732 --> 00:42:54,845 depends on your identity, on your soul, on your body. 705 00:42:56,634 --> 00:43:00,187 This is how you learn to taste life slowly. 706 00:43:04,245 --> 00:43:06,263 The last drop made me have a tear. 707 00:43:07,941 --> 00:43:10,608 (phone ringing) 708 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,402 At night time, my friend called me, 709 00:43:20,427 --> 00:43:23,463 "Serge, we need a partner for our bridge play. 710 00:43:23,487 --> 00:43:25,233 So, okay, could you come down?" 711 00:43:25,258 --> 00:43:26,978 I told them, "Okay, I'll come down." 712 00:43:27,003 --> 00:43:29,973 So I went out of my room and I look 713 00:43:29,998 --> 00:43:32,954 all the windows of the house were shattered. 714 00:43:32,978 --> 00:43:36,198 All the windows, the only room which was not touched 715 00:43:36,223 --> 00:43:38,819 was the room where I was spending my day. 716 00:43:39,521 --> 00:43:42,475 And a neighbor of ours, a friend of mine, 717 00:43:43,147 --> 00:43:46,457 was in her room, there was a bomb on their house. 718 00:43:46,482 --> 00:43:48,592 One shrapnel went through 719 00:43:49,691 --> 00:43:53,571 the ceiling and came down directly into her heart. 720 00:43:53,596 --> 00:43:57,296 One shrapnel had come into her heart and she passed away. 721 00:43:57,321 --> 00:44:02,119 So basically, so this is how I spent this day 722 00:44:02,144 --> 00:44:06,150 and the wine I was tasting this day was a 1972. 723 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,700 Just to tell you something, for me, war or no war 724 00:44:10,740 --> 00:44:14,992 I don't care because grape, yeast 725 00:44:15,017 --> 00:44:16,813 does not care about war. 726 00:44:21,649 --> 00:44:23,236 - The thing that I always think of about Serge 727 00:44:23,278 --> 00:44:26,958 is that line of his, about how a human being encountering 728 00:44:26,990 --> 00:44:30,082 a wine that is living, which is what he always spoke about. 729 00:44:30,107 --> 00:44:31,522 As you know, that... 730 00:44:32,579 --> 00:44:34,249 that in order for something to be great, 731 00:44:34,274 --> 00:44:36,584 it had to have life in it, it didn't have to necessarily 732 00:44:36,609 --> 00:44:39,937 taste good or taste bad, it was beyond that, it was about 733 00:44:39,961 --> 00:44:42,681 was this made with love, was this made with life? 734 00:44:42,706 --> 00:44:45,659 Does it still contain life, does it inspire you to life? 735 00:44:46,676 --> 00:44:49,806 All of this was about this sense of living-ness 736 00:44:49,831 --> 00:44:54,094 as opposed to being shut down and checked out. 737 00:44:55,149 --> 00:44:57,579 When you come into the presence of somebody who has rejected 738 00:44:57,604 --> 00:45:00,614 that formula and said, "You're not the sum of your 739 00:45:00,646 --> 00:45:03,062 obligations, you're the sum of your senses, 740 00:45:03,087 --> 00:45:05,798 you're the sum of your experiences, 741 00:45:05,836 --> 00:45:07,241 you're the sum of your feelings, 742 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,510 you're the sum of your interactions with other people. 743 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:10,554 Let me show you how. 744 00:45:11,780 --> 00:45:15,690 Through taste and through the art of the senses." 745 00:45:17,499 --> 00:45:20,249 (dramatic music) 746 00:45:39,271 --> 00:45:43,322 - Everybody told me it's not time to start a winery. 747 00:45:43,347 --> 00:45:46,611 It's not the time to plant vineyards. 748 00:45:46,653 --> 00:45:50,533 And they used to accompany it with a sign 749 00:45:50,558 --> 00:45:53,921 on their head doing... 750 00:45:55,132 --> 00:45:56,468 (chuckling) 751 00:45:56,493 --> 00:45:58,242 (upbeat music) 752 00:45:58,267 --> 00:46:01,243 And I never looked after what they said. 753 00:46:02,154 --> 00:46:07,226 During the war in '82, I asked for an oenologist 754 00:46:07,333 --> 00:46:09,483 and he was a French one. 755 00:46:09,508 --> 00:46:12,051 He came without thinking about it. 756 00:46:12,803 --> 00:46:14,265 He was an adventurer. 757 00:46:15,443 --> 00:46:17,176 (upbeat alternative music) 758 00:46:29,321 --> 00:46:31,646 - In 1982, I arrived in Lebanon. 759 00:46:32,115 --> 00:46:33,806 When I arrived he told me to cut my hair 760 00:46:33,831 --> 00:46:36,399 and I said, "No way... 761 00:46:36,609 --> 00:46:39,287 if you don't like it I can leave." 762 00:46:40,290 --> 00:46:45,686 But, as soon as I saw the vines I couldn't leave. 763 00:46:47,010 --> 00:46:49,791 I thought it was impossible that grapes 764 00:46:49,815 --> 00:46:52,449 like these were growing in Lebanon. 765 00:46:53,202 --> 00:46:55,577 It reminded me of the Bible 766 00:46:56,428 --> 00:46:59,309 where Lebanese wine is mentioned 767 00:46:59,309 --> 00:47:04,582 and when I saw the vines I saw the direct connection. 768 00:47:05,242 --> 00:47:07,702 The grapes were beautiful! 769 00:47:07,727 --> 00:47:15,344 I used to blast Bob Marley to the max while fermenting. 770 00:47:17,536 --> 00:47:20,850 To this day, people still call me "Bob". 771 00:47:23,347 --> 00:47:25,702 - "I will be as the dew to Israel. 772 00:47:26,657 --> 00:47:32,264 I shall grow as the lily and throw out my roots to Lebanon. 773 00:47:33,718 --> 00:47:38,066 Those who dwell under my shadow shall revive 774 00:47:38,663 --> 00:47:40,663 and grow as the vine. 775 00:47:41,009 --> 00:47:44,176 The scent shall be as the wine of Lebanon." 776 00:47:46,603 --> 00:47:51,023 In the Old Testament, Hosea wanted to convey 777 00:47:51,048 --> 00:47:53,306 Lebanon's greatness through wine. 778 00:47:53,905 --> 00:47:55,960 The country was considered to be one of 779 00:47:55,984 --> 00:47:58,038 the first wine producers in the world. 780 00:47:58,444 --> 00:48:02,124 So Lebanon's message is to propagate 781 00:48:02,149 --> 00:48:06,754 wine throughout the world. 782 00:48:07,335 --> 00:48:11,950 A little bit of wine makes the heart happy. 783 00:48:15,302 --> 00:48:17,668 - Pour me some more. - No, you've had too much. 784 00:48:17,693 --> 00:48:18,918 - Don't start with me. 785 00:48:22,919 --> 00:48:27,143 I told the workers at the winery to leave 786 00:48:27,168 --> 00:48:33,010 but I didn't leave until the first shells started falling. 787 00:48:33,159 --> 00:48:34,359 (tanks firing) 788 00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,974 I said, "Jesus, this place is filled with spirits. 789 00:48:41,050 --> 00:48:44,695 if one shell should hit, the whole place will explode." 790 00:48:45,373 --> 00:48:48,781 So I ran outside to hide. 791 00:48:50,288 --> 00:48:53,610 - There was a sky battle with the Syrians. 792 00:48:54,308 --> 00:48:58,425 And one or two planes fell in Kefraya. 793 00:48:59,009 --> 00:49:00,417 In the vineyards. 794 00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:05,132 He was running and then the passport got out of his pocket 795 00:49:05,157 --> 00:49:06,720 and he was without any papers. 796 00:49:07,938 --> 00:49:12,196 - So I was hiding in a pipe 797 00:49:13,979 --> 00:49:16,383 I was there the whole day. 798 00:49:17,016 --> 00:49:21,601 When the shelling stopped, the soldiers came to the winery. 799 00:49:21,989 --> 00:49:24,703 - They arrived with their tanks. 800 00:49:24,728 --> 00:49:26,858 They went into the house. 801 00:49:26,961 --> 00:49:29,001 They deteriorated what they could, 802 00:49:29,054 --> 00:49:33,263 then they installed their camp here just where we are. 803 00:49:33,587 --> 00:49:36,263 They knew that he was there. 804 00:49:36,596 --> 00:49:39,052 They asked for him and everybody said 805 00:49:39,077 --> 00:49:40,777 "We don't know where he is." 806 00:49:40,802 --> 00:49:45,308 So they thought, of course, that he would not be far. 807 00:49:45,333 --> 00:49:48,855 - One of the tanks was going back and forth. 808 00:49:49,876 --> 00:49:51,196 A soldier got out and put his flashlight 809 00:49:51,221 --> 00:49:52,553 into the hole where I was hiding, 810 00:49:53,483 --> 00:49:56,876 and I said to myself, "This is the end, I'm going to die." 811 00:49:56,901 --> 00:49:59,922 I put my hands up and surrendered. 812 00:50:00,042 --> 00:50:02,157 - They thought he was a terrorist 813 00:50:02,451 --> 00:50:04,292 because he had a beard. 814 00:50:05,745 --> 00:50:07,925 And they took him to Tel Aviv. 815 00:50:08,707 --> 00:50:12,606 - I was transferred to 6 or 7 jails. 816 00:50:12,631 --> 00:50:17,949 They tied my hands and feet and put me in a truck 817 00:50:18,258 --> 00:50:22,018 and next to me was a Syrian pilot 818 00:50:22,676 --> 00:50:25,283 and part of his face was gone. 819 00:50:26,346 --> 00:50:30,565 When they saw his condition they gave him morphine 820 00:50:30,604 --> 00:50:33,182 and he couldn't feel the pain anymore. 821 00:50:34,649 --> 00:50:39,312 I was smoking a cigarette with my hands tied up 822 00:50:40,194 --> 00:50:44,726 and the pilot was asking me with his eyes for a cigarette. 823 00:50:46,201 --> 00:50:48,351 I pretended that I didn't see him. 824 00:50:50,874 --> 00:50:52,882 I couldn't give him a smoke. What would he do with it? 825 00:50:53,752 --> 00:50:56,960 Finally, an officer asked me for a phone number, 826 00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:00,687 to contact someone in France to say I was in jail. 827 00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,265 So they tell my mom. 828 00:51:07,512 --> 00:51:09,848 They told her, "Your son is in prison in Israel." 829 00:51:09,873 --> 00:51:11,623 Then they hung up. 830 00:51:12,356 --> 00:51:13,516 They hung up on her. 831 00:51:16,686 --> 00:51:20,959 When she heard I was in prison she thought 832 00:51:20,984 --> 00:51:26,618 that I had become a thug and a troublemaker. 833 00:51:26,743 --> 00:51:30,380 So she didn't tell anyone about it. 834 00:51:32,124 --> 00:51:34,474 There were 70 of us in prison. 835 00:51:34,659 --> 00:51:37,294 I tried speaking with another Frenchman and the others 836 00:51:37,319 --> 00:51:40,733 would always shut me up because someone was always praying. 837 00:51:41,633 --> 00:51:44,591 They would all pray constantly, one after another. 838 00:51:44,636 --> 00:51:46,700 I said, "Why are you praying? 839 00:51:46,718 --> 00:51:50,239 Are you afraid of being killed? 840 00:51:50,472 --> 00:51:52,950 When you had guns none of you were praying 841 00:51:52,975 --> 00:51:55,979 but now you are afraid for your lives, right?" 842 00:51:56,523 --> 00:51:58,757 I started shouting at them 843 00:51:58,781 --> 00:52:01,354 because no one would let me talk. 844 00:52:01,987 --> 00:52:05,081 We were two against seventy. 845 00:52:05,923 --> 00:52:10,963 I told them, "Everyone prays together, and that's it." 846 00:52:10,988 --> 00:52:15,354 After that we could speak whenever we wanted. 847 00:52:15,439 --> 00:52:18,539 The one who jailed us told me to "eat shit" 848 00:52:18,545 --> 00:52:21,893 and now you want me to shut up? 849 00:52:22,048 --> 00:52:24,596 No way! I'm not going to take it! 850 00:52:24,829 --> 00:52:27,962 So I became the leader of the cell. 851 00:52:29,938 --> 00:52:33,281 - Then the French consulate intervened 852 00:52:33,688 --> 00:52:37,087 and they got him out, back to France 853 00:52:37,189 --> 00:52:39,979 and he stayed there for just a week 854 00:52:40,025 --> 00:52:41,657 and then he came back here. 855 00:52:41,943 --> 00:52:46,190 I told him not to do it but he wanted to come back. 856 00:52:46,781 --> 00:52:53,831 The army stayed three years and we used to look after 857 00:52:53,856 --> 00:52:55,597 what they did every day. 858 00:52:55,624 --> 00:52:58,152 If it was not pipes which were broken 859 00:52:58,177 --> 00:53:01,363 it was the vines which were erased. 860 00:53:02,464 --> 00:53:05,706 (light music) 861 00:53:06,551 --> 00:53:11,168 - If you stay until tomorrow I can tell you stories. 862 00:53:15,015 --> 00:53:16,695 (bottle opener rattling) 863 00:53:17,229 --> 00:53:18,793 What's happening? 864 00:53:19,731 --> 00:53:21,543 (bottle slamming on surface) (cork popping) 865 00:53:21,613 --> 00:53:22,613 Ha! 866 00:53:23,276 --> 00:53:25,472 Did you say something? 867 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,015 Pass me the 2011. 868 00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:38,711 (playful music) 869 00:53:39,376 --> 00:53:40,976 (indistinct chatter) 870 00:53:46,508 --> 00:53:50,153 After that jail experience, I took down my walls. 871 00:53:50,271 --> 00:53:51,391 (wine pouring) 872 00:53:52,169 --> 00:53:53,241 (playful music) 873 00:53:53,265 --> 00:53:54,333 - Which wine you want to taste? 874 00:53:54,358 --> 00:53:55,426 - All of them 875 00:53:55,538 --> 00:53:56,621 (cork popping) 876 00:53:57,137 --> 00:53:58,137 (sipping) 877 00:53:59,601 --> 00:54:01,281 (playful music continues) 878 00:54:07,025 --> 00:54:08,025 (spitting) 879 00:54:09,353 --> 00:54:10,553 (smacking lips) 880 00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:13,020 (cork popping) 881 00:54:13,045 --> 00:54:16,126 - When I came back to Lebanon, there was a snowball effect 882 00:54:16,151 --> 00:54:18,470 and I found myself getting more and more sucked into 883 00:54:18,495 --> 00:54:20,823 this funny little world that was called 884 00:54:20,848 --> 00:54:22,433 the Lebanese wine industry. 885 00:54:28,765 --> 00:54:29,765 (spitting) 886 00:54:31,031 --> 00:54:32,031 (spitting) 887 00:54:37,747 --> 00:54:40,104 - I want to shock you. - Okay, you should. 888 00:54:40,201 --> 00:54:41,399 - I love to shock you. 889 00:54:41,532 --> 00:54:42,833 You know how old I am? 890 00:54:45,411 --> 00:54:46,579 - 73 891 00:54:47,010 --> 00:54:48,041 - 27 892 00:54:49,507 --> 00:54:51,267 27! - Okay 893 00:54:51,292 --> 00:54:52,822 - I'm getting younger 894 00:54:52,847 --> 00:54:54,597 this is why I'm becoming dangerous. 895 00:54:57,829 --> 00:55:00,302 Good, okay, what you want to taste now? 896 00:55:00,332 --> 00:55:02,332 - Let's go for the cuvée. 897 00:55:02,843 --> 00:55:03,908 (cork popping) 898 00:55:05,003 --> 00:55:06,896 - Let me give you an advice. 899 00:55:07,727 --> 00:55:11,986 You take your glass and you put one drop on your tongue 900 00:55:13,095 --> 00:55:16,296 and you leave it on your tongue, one drop. 901 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:26,239 And it goes into all your mouth 902 00:55:26,399 --> 00:55:28,239 and nothing comes to your stomach. 903 00:55:28,276 --> 00:55:30,746 So you have the pleasure without the effect 904 00:55:31,711 --> 00:55:32,731 of drinking. 905 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,544 - Serge, you're too kind, thank you. 906 00:55:37,569 --> 00:55:38,588 - Oh. 907 00:55:39,850 --> 00:55:41,600 Because this would smell different. 908 00:55:42,162 --> 00:55:43,333 - It already has smelled different. 909 00:55:43,371 --> 00:55:44,471 - Yeah. 910 00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:49,811 You see, when you swirl in the glass, you look 911 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,533 to the tears, look how much time it takes to go down. 912 00:55:55,371 --> 00:55:57,634 It stays, it stays, it's impressive. 913 00:55:58,498 --> 00:56:01,903 You know, Michael, I have reached an age 914 00:56:02,821 --> 00:56:07,025 where love is a question of experience. 915 00:56:07,611 --> 00:56:10,764 You can start loving and then it dies. 916 00:56:11,597 --> 00:56:13,337 The most important, if love 917 00:56:13,362 --> 00:56:16,468 you can increase it and make it better, higher 918 00:56:16,493 --> 00:56:19,147 more approachable, more attractive, 919 00:56:19,172 --> 00:56:21,250 so this is how I behave 920 00:56:21,275 --> 00:56:22,418 even with my wine. 921 00:56:24,866 --> 00:56:27,826 - In 1984, after the Israeli invasion 922 00:56:27,851 --> 00:56:30,461 the road from Beirut to Damascus was closed. 923 00:56:30,486 --> 00:56:32,076 The vineyards were in the buffer zone. 924 00:56:32,101 --> 00:56:33,239 You know, it was... 925 00:56:34,422 --> 00:56:37,804 You have the Israeli armies in the south 926 00:56:37,835 --> 00:56:39,645 and the Syrian army in the north 927 00:56:39,670 --> 00:56:42,063 and I think the vineyards were in between. 928 00:56:43,740 --> 00:56:46,746 - In 1984, there was such a war situation 929 00:56:46,770 --> 00:56:49,506 not because the grapes could not make wine 930 00:56:49,530 --> 00:56:51,780 because I could not bring them to the winery. 931 00:56:53,087 --> 00:56:55,887 - While I was in Beirut, our bailiff 932 00:56:55,912 --> 00:56:57,852 got in touch with me at my office 933 00:56:57,890 --> 00:57:00,120 five in the evening, the streets were empty. 934 00:57:00,145 --> 00:57:03,698 Empty because the offices were not far from the Green Line. 935 00:57:04,703 --> 00:57:06,502 He said, "Look, I'm ready. 936 00:57:06,527 --> 00:57:09,663 I can send you two or three trucks." "Are you joking?" 937 00:57:10,170 --> 00:57:11,179 He said, "No." 938 00:57:11,499 --> 00:57:13,547 I called Serge in Paris on holiday 939 00:57:13,572 --> 00:57:15,563 and said, "Serge, look, I don't want you to come 940 00:57:16,067 --> 00:57:18,717 but we can start in two days." He said, "What?" 941 00:57:18,742 --> 00:57:20,693 I said, "Yes, but don't come." 942 00:57:20,718 --> 00:57:22,283 He called me back, said "Okay, 943 00:57:22,307 --> 00:57:24,786 I'll be there in a couple of days." "For God's sake!" 944 00:57:24,810 --> 00:57:28,570 He flew from Paris to Cyprus, took a speed boat 945 00:57:28,595 --> 00:57:31,165 and he arrived two days later at six in the morning. 946 00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:35,013 - Instead of harvesting in early September, as usual 947 00:57:35,237 --> 00:57:37,560 we did harvest on the 20th of October, 948 00:57:37,906 --> 00:57:40,214 which made it an impossible 949 00:57:40,238 --> 00:57:43,011 product and to bring the grapes from the vineyards, 950 00:57:43,036 --> 00:57:45,305 which are in Bekaa Valley to Ghazir, 951 00:57:45,330 --> 00:57:47,339 which is north of Beirut... 952 00:57:48,117 --> 00:57:50,250 it took us five days. 953 00:57:51,155 --> 00:57:53,985 From the vineyard we had to go south Bekaa, 954 00:57:54,032 --> 00:57:56,813 up to the north to Baalbek and there we took the road 955 00:57:56,838 --> 00:57:59,487 to the Cedars and from the Cedars to Tripoli 956 00:57:59,511 --> 00:58:02,337 and from Tripoli to Jounieh and there to the winery. 957 00:58:02,385 --> 00:58:04,065 (truck engine rumbling) 958 00:58:08,270 --> 00:58:12,086 - Life in 1984 wasn't easy. 959 00:58:12,337 --> 00:58:15,351 All the roads were closed and bombed, 960 00:58:16,066 --> 00:58:19,492 Whenever we would find an open road we would take it. 961 00:58:20,041 --> 00:58:23,062 On the way back from the Cedars road, I hit a checkpoint. 962 00:58:23,087 --> 00:58:25,261 I bribed them with cigarettes to 963 00:58:25,286 --> 00:58:27,605 make the crossing happen as usual. 964 00:58:28,161 --> 00:58:30,867 But this time the soldier was annoying 965 00:58:30,891 --> 00:58:33,523 me so I threw the cigarettes at him 966 00:58:34,051 --> 00:58:35,460 and then he attacked me! 967 00:58:36,144 --> 00:58:38,136 So I tackled him and took his weapon. 968 00:58:39,129 --> 00:58:43,354 His commander saw us and ran over 969 00:58:43,379 --> 00:58:48,450 I gave him his weapon and he asked, "What happened?" 970 00:58:48,475 --> 00:58:50,542 I exaggerated a little bit and told 971 00:58:50,566 --> 00:58:52,510 him the soldier had offended me, 972 00:58:53,431 --> 00:58:55,426 so the commander started beating him. 973 00:58:55,637 --> 00:58:58,565 I can't believe I wasn't beaten too. 974 00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,088 The commander was a good guy. 975 00:59:02,365 --> 00:59:03,995 He invited me for a tea! 976 00:59:04,117 --> 00:59:06,867 After that he said, "I got your back, 977 00:59:08,330 --> 00:59:10,325 God be with you." 978 00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:15,026 - So we found another route, we sent the grapes from Bekaa 979 00:59:15,051 --> 00:59:17,454 to the south of Lebanon, go to Sidon. 980 00:59:18,006 --> 00:59:21,002 In Sidon, we took a ferry boat 981 00:59:21,676 --> 00:59:24,989 and which brought the truck to Jounieh 982 00:59:25,013 --> 00:59:27,516 and from there, from Jounieh, it went up to the winery. 983 00:59:27,593 --> 00:59:30,826 But there was a storm, so to be able to sail 984 00:59:30,850 --> 00:59:32,747 it took three days more to sail 985 00:59:32,771 --> 00:59:34,782 so this is what made that the grape arrived 986 00:59:34,807 --> 00:59:36,836 to the winery five days after. 987 00:59:37,772 --> 00:59:42,107 So... the grapes arrived to the winery already fermenting. 988 00:59:44,279 --> 00:59:46,369 - All of a sudden, Serge told me 989 00:59:46,394 --> 00:59:48,984 "You got the truck from the south, but what?" 990 00:59:49,030 --> 00:59:50,216 I said, "Yes." 991 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:51,513 It wasn't planned. 992 00:59:52,470 --> 00:59:55,489 Purely coincidence, nature, God, war. 993 00:59:56,128 --> 00:59:57,169 War. 994 00:59:57,194 --> 00:59:59,551 This is why I say making wine 995 00:59:59,576 --> 01:00:02,908 is the biggest gamble you could think of, okay, good? 996 01:00:03,093 --> 01:00:05,588 So when I'm asked, "Serge, what do you do in life?" 997 01:00:05,613 --> 01:00:07,041 I do two things. 998 01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:09,643 I'm a cook and I'm a gambler. 999 01:00:10,217 --> 01:00:11,857 I cook for tomorrow not for today 1000 01:00:11,882 --> 01:00:14,349 but by making the wine for the future 1001 01:00:14,374 --> 01:00:16,187 and bottling it, I'm a gambler. 1002 01:00:17,065 --> 01:00:20,622 So I'm a cook, gambler cook. 1003 01:00:21,114 --> 01:00:23,114 Any decision you make on the wine, 1004 01:00:23,595 --> 01:00:24,724 affects the wine. 1005 01:00:25,111 --> 01:00:27,757 Now, although the wine makes itself 1006 01:00:27,781 --> 01:00:31,371 by raising it up, by giving it affection 1007 01:00:31,410 --> 01:00:34,260 by talking with it, it can evolve, we can make it evolve. 1008 01:00:35,093 --> 01:00:36,863 And this is what I say: 1009 01:00:36,888 --> 01:00:38,659 Wine is a permanent miracle, 1010 01:00:39,919 --> 01:00:41,238 and you have to believe. 1011 01:00:42,189 --> 01:00:43,869 (wine bottle opening) 1012 01:00:48,938 --> 01:00:52,132 - When I came back to Lebanon, 1013 01:00:52,722 --> 01:00:54,561 I was shocked by a social phenomenon 1014 01:00:54,612 --> 01:00:58,350 that emerged during the war. 1015 01:01:00,275 --> 01:01:04,167 The war was about ethnicity. 1016 01:01:04,192 --> 01:01:09,493 Your identity could get you killed. 1017 01:01:13,830 --> 01:01:21,666 I told my sister that I wanted to go to our village in Kobayet. 1018 01:01:23,032 --> 01:01:25,911 "No way!" she said 1019 01:01:25,936 --> 01:01:27,954 "You have to pass by Muslim checkpoints. 1020 01:01:27,978 --> 01:01:29,630 They will kill you!" 1021 01:01:29,638 --> 01:01:33,161 But that didn't change my mind. 1022 01:01:34,254 --> 01:01:40,481 Every time there was a checkpoint 1023 01:01:40,506 --> 01:01:43,289 I would get out of the car on purpose 1024 01:01:43,314 --> 01:01:46,745 so they would see I was a monk. 1025 01:01:48,653 --> 01:01:52,636 I arrived at the village of Hermel 1026 01:01:52,661 --> 01:01:54,815 and still no one had killed me. 1027 01:01:57,539 --> 01:02:00,370 No one had laid their hands on me. 1028 01:02:01,348 --> 01:02:03,697 Not even an insult. 1029 01:02:05,255 --> 01:02:07,088 I saw kids playing 1030 01:02:07,872 --> 01:02:15,016 and I asked if they could take me to the Sheikh. 1031 01:02:17,557 --> 01:02:21,381 "Follow us!" they said. 1032 01:02:21,811 --> 01:02:24,467 All the children were walking in front of me 1033 01:02:24,484 --> 01:02:29,233 and along the way people joined the crowd. 1034 01:02:29,635 --> 01:02:32,209 We walked in the narrow streets 1035 01:02:32,717 --> 01:02:34,910 until we arrived to the Sheikh's house. 1036 01:02:35,584 --> 01:02:38,209 The Skeikh was surprised to see all the villagers 1037 01:02:38,248 --> 01:02:42,255 in front of his door with me in the middle. 1038 01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:47,423 He asked, "How can I help you, Father?" 1039 01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:50,775 I told him, "I am here to defy you. 1040 01:02:51,578 --> 01:02:55,680 I came all the way from Beirut and still no one has killed me." 1041 01:02:55,705 --> 01:02:57,880 "So I thought why not meet you, 1042 01:02:57,905 --> 01:03:01,155 the big Sheikh, and test my fate." 1043 01:03:01,726 --> 01:03:03,918 "Why would I kill you? 1044 01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:06,782 On the contrary, you are most welcome!" 1045 01:03:07,411 --> 01:03:11,829 I stood up and went towards him. 1046 01:03:13,860 --> 01:03:15,740 I kissed him... 1047 01:03:18,260 --> 01:03:20,141 on both cheeks 1048 01:03:20,173 --> 01:03:21,975 and hugged him 1049 01:03:23,001 --> 01:03:28,722 and I said, "Love will prevail." 1050 01:03:30,383 --> 01:03:34,605 A toast to love and humanity. 1051 01:03:52,860 --> 01:03:57,637 - One of the most remarkable stories in postwar Lebanon 1052 01:03:57,661 --> 01:04:02,433 is Chateau Bellevue in Bhamdoun. 1053 01:04:02,457 --> 01:04:06,846 Here we have a story of a man who grew up in Bhamdoun, 1054 01:04:06,878 --> 01:04:08,500 who loved the village, 1055 01:04:09,311 --> 01:04:14,021 who had an intense, emotional tie with his community 1056 01:04:14,046 --> 01:04:17,446 who left, he took the traditional Lebanese route, 1057 01:04:17,472 --> 01:04:21,192 he left to study abroad like thousands of Lebanese 1058 01:04:21,220 --> 01:04:23,846 do every year and when he was studying 1059 01:04:23,870 --> 01:04:26,520 in the middle of the civil war, there was a massacre 1060 01:04:27,315 --> 01:04:31,218 in his village, 500 people were murdered. 1061 01:04:32,287 --> 01:04:34,187 I mean, that would be trauma anywhere 1062 01:04:36,609 --> 01:04:38,005 and what did he do? 1063 01:04:38,247 --> 01:04:42,707 He said, "I'm gonna heal the wounds of war through wine," 1064 01:04:42,747 --> 01:04:47,747 and he planted his first vineyard in his father's hotel 1065 01:04:47,912 --> 01:04:50,552 that was destroyed during the war and now he's bought 1066 01:04:50,577 --> 01:04:55,400 vineyards all over the town as a symbol of resurrection. 1067 01:04:56,375 --> 01:04:58,267 (soft music) 1068 01:04:58,305 --> 01:04:59,735 - When you plant vines, 1069 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:01,826 you plant it for your grandchild. 1070 01:05:01,850 --> 01:05:05,872 If you really want to uproot people, cut their vines 1071 01:05:05,896 --> 01:05:08,053 and that's exactly what's happening 1072 01:05:08,078 --> 01:05:09,578 around this part of the world. 1073 01:05:11,704 --> 01:05:15,560 500 people perished in this place, 1074 01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:20,841 In this place and in many other places, so it happened 1075 01:05:20,865 --> 01:05:22,938 in Christian villages, it happened in 1076 01:05:22,962 --> 01:05:24,672 Muslim, Druze villages, 1077 01:05:24,706 --> 01:05:26,434 it happened everywhere. 1078 01:05:26,458 --> 01:05:29,011 To me, this was it, I never wanted to come back... 1079 01:05:29,753 --> 01:05:30,924 at the time, you know. 1080 01:05:31,834 --> 01:05:34,062 Despite the fact that because we felt useless 1081 01:05:34,086 --> 01:05:35,906 we felt powerless, we felt like 1082 01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:37,586 it's so much bigger than you 1083 01:05:37,611 --> 01:05:38,944 how can you make a change? 1084 01:05:40,806 --> 01:05:43,086 When I returned the first person I wanted to help 1085 01:05:43,111 --> 01:05:45,734 was myself, I had hatred in me. 1086 01:05:46,135 --> 01:05:50,018 I had hatred against human beings. 1087 01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:55,596 There were no trees, my vineyard, my own vineyard 1088 01:05:55,620 --> 01:05:58,336 that I had planted with my grandfather 1089 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,793 was uprooted, the olive groves were cut. 1090 01:06:01,746 --> 01:06:04,276 I don't have to seek justice by myself. 1091 01:06:04,346 --> 01:06:07,889 Justice, we seek by planting and beautifying things. 1092 01:06:08,946 --> 01:06:10,347 We continue doing that. 1093 01:06:12,229 --> 01:06:14,642 - It's good will that's guiding us. 1094 01:06:16,070 --> 01:06:19,266 The idea was, how can we encourage people 1095 01:06:19,290 --> 01:06:21,503 to reattach themselves to their own land? 1096 01:06:22,035 --> 01:06:23,530 The vineyards was the vehicle. 1097 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:28,343 It was a vehicle that people could relate to at some level. 1098 01:06:31,391 --> 01:06:33,580 One of the issues that we had encouraging people 1099 01:06:33,604 --> 01:06:35,693 to come back and live in Bhamdoun, 1100 01:06:35,731 --> 01:06:38,475 because everyone had obviously made lives elsewhere - 1101 01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:41,346 schools, apartments, jobs, et cetera, in Beirut 1102 01:06:41,370 --> 01:06:43,796 most frequently, but to get them to come back 1103 01:06:43,820 --> 01:06:46,686 and really invest themselves here, we had to somehow 1104 01:06:46,710 --> 01:06:49,308 encourage their children to be interested. 1105 01:06:49,871 --> 01:06:51,891 It couldn't be internet, it couldn't be 1106 01:06:51,915 --> 01:06:54,456 things that they're used to doing, going out 1107 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,282 and having places to go with their friends. 1108 01:06:56,631 --> 01:07:01,805 So a few years ago, Naji created a group of harvesters, 1109 01:07:02,137 --> 01:07:05,446 who were young people in high school and in college 1110 01:07:05,475 --> 01:07:07,155 they didn't necessarily know each other because 1111 01:07:07,180 --> 01:07:09,108 they were all from different parts of Beirut 1112 01:07:09,133 --> 01:07:10,967 but their parents had known each other. 1113 01:07:11,521 --> 01:07:13,021 They earned a little bit of money 1114 01:07:13,046 --> 01:07:15,966 they found a commonality, 1115 01:07:15,991 --> 01:07:17,871 they started to care about what happened 1116 01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:19,115 to their grandfathers' land. 1117 01:07:19,529 --> 01:07:22,816 So that's the generation that needed to be excited. 1118 01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,662 - And now they know every corner of the valley 1119 01:07:25,698 --> 01:07:28,322 and they ask us, when are we picking? 1120 01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:30,683 That's what we want to create here, 1121 01:07:30,707 --> 01:07:32,541 is people who believe in the future. 1122 01:07:34,959 --> 01:07:40,359 A future based on total quality environment, 1123 01:07:42,317 --> 01:07:44,350 where we are in communion with nature. 1124 01:07:45,603 --> 01:07:46,903 - All the elements are here. 1125 01:07:48,058 --> 01:07:50,258 People have to open their eyes and see them. 1126 01:07:50,310 --> 01:07:51,317 Breaking News 1127 01:07:51,349 --> 01:07:54,231 - Dani Chamoun, his wife and two young sons 1128 01:07:54,254 --> 01:07:56,005 were killed today in their apartment 1129 01:07:56,030 --> 01:07:58,264 by a commando team of five armed men. 1130 01:07:58,276 --> 01:08:01,034 An act that has sparked outrage 1131 01:08:06,910 --> 01:08:09,493 (bell ringing) 1132 01:08:22,509 --> 01:08:24,569 - I left Lebanon to discover the world 1133 01:08:25,637 --> 01:08:28,030 but Lebanon never really left me. 1134 01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:33,730 On the TV, I saw the picture of Dani, Ingrid and the boys 1135 01:08:33,755 --> 01:08:35,568 I grew up very close to the family. 1136 01:08:36,711 --> 01:08:39,403 I knew that something terrible had happened. 1137 01:08:41,194 --> 01:08:43,396 Dani fought for this land. 1138 01:08:44,330 --> 01:08:46,426 The same day I called up my mom and I said, 1139 01:08:46,450 --> 01:08:48,287 "I'm coming back to... 1140 01:08:55,083 --> 01:08:56,202 home." 1141 01:08:56,615 --> 01:08:59,032 (soft music) 1142 01:09:01,841 --> 01:09:03,245 When I returned 1143 01:09:04,350 --> 01:09:08,333 the first matter I had to negotiate was the land we had. 1144 01:09:13,373 --> 01:09:15,576 I stayed on the rooftop of our house. 1145 01:09:16,709 --> 01:09:19,621 Occupiers were in it living with their cattle. 1146 01:09:21,210 --> 01:09:22,803 They were nomads, Bedouins 1147 01:09:24,818 --> 01:09:28,071 and they realized at some point that I meant business. 1148 01:09:29,725 --> 01:09:33,975 I had an AK-47 that didn't leave me all the time 1149 01:09:34,045 --> 01:09:36,018 but luckily I didn't have to use it. 1150 01:09:37,101 --> 01:09:40,055 I wasn't aggressive at all but I had determination 1151 01:09:40,082 --> 01:09:43,444 so eventually they decided to pack and leave 1152 01:09:43,469 --> 01:09:45,072 because one of us had to leave. 1153 01:09:46,624 --> 01:09:50,554 Once the squatters left, I had all this land on hand 1154 01:09:50,579 --> 01:09:52,912 and I said, I need to make a life out of it. 1155 01:09:57,103 --> 01:10:00,967 There is no stronger wine than a wine made in a region where 1156 01:10:00,992 --> 01:10:05,319 there is war, because it's the essence of rebirth and life. 1157 01:10:06,334 --> 01:10:09,141 Wine is not just a mere packaging 1158 01:10:09,165 --> 01:10:11,334 of a bottle and a price, 1159 01:10:11,368 --> 01:10:12,777 it's a soul. 1160 01:10:13,245 --> 01:10:16,015 And the soul of life from a region of war 1161 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:18,800 is nowhere stronger than when you are able 1162 01:10:18,834 --> 01:10:20,357 to make wine from this region. 1163 01:10:21,456 --> 01:10:26,456 It means, by essence, this is life I'm offering you 1164 01:10:26,789 --> 01:10:28,016 although there is war. 1165 01:10:31,857 --> 01:10:35,690 (singing in foreign language) 1166 01:10:54,352 --> 01:10:58,215 - Sami and Ramzi Ghosn were children of the civil war. 1167 01:10:59,374 --> 01:11:01,551 They were at the forefront of what I would call the... 1168 01:11:02,373 --> 01:11:05,406 the second generation of Lebanese wine producers, 1169 01:11:05,430 --> 01:11:09,188 those producers that established their wineries 1170 01:11:09,597 --> 01:11:11,220 after the civil war ended. 1171 01:11:14,890 --> 01:11:17,522 Ramzi's moment came in 2006. 1172 01:11:18,095 --> 01:11:22,085 When there was a brutal, a very short but brutal war between 1173 01:11:22,110 --> 01:11:27,052 the Shia Lebanese political party, Hezbollah and Israel. 1174 01:11:27,076 --> 01:11:29,797 And Ramzi who had already been uprooted 1175 01:11:29,821 --> 01:11:31,954 from his winery once, 1176 01:11:33,241 --> 01:11:36,411 as a child, said, "No, I'm not moving." 1177 01:11:36,450 --> 01:11:39,806 And he stayed for a month with his vines. 1178 01:11:39,831 --> 01:11:44,551 Under the bombs, the shrapnel was fizzing in the vineyard. 1179 01:11:44,576 --> 01:11:48,696 If ever there was a moment in which the Lebanese winemaker, 1180 01:11:48,721 --> 01:11:52,091 the Lebanese entrepreneur was defined 1181 01:11:53,011 --> 01:11:54,830 by resilience, 1182 01:11:54,854 --> 01:11:56,198 by stubbornness, 1183 01:11:56,222 --> 01:11:57,641 by bravery, 1184 01:11:57,682 --> 01:12:02,420 it was the fact that Ramzi Ghosn lived with his vines 1185 01:12:02,445 --> 01:12:06,595 amid the bombing for one month in 2006 1186 01:12:06,620 --> 01:12:08,370 he said, "I'm not fucking leaving." 1187 01:12:09,653 --> 01:12:13,223 - People who look at the grim aspect of war only 1188 01:12:14,324 --> 01:12:16,760 will never get out of it. 1189 01:12:17,712 --> 01:12:21,572 People should look at the positive aspect of war 1190 01:12:23,637 --> 01:12:29,611 and this is entrenched deeply in the Lebanese culture. 1191 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,873 We have to make the best of every single day, 1192 01:12:36,455 --> 01:12:39,538 we have to be thankful 1193 01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:46,430 and to make every day an opportunity 1194 01:12:47,443 --> 01:12:48,593 to learn something 1195 01:12:50,318 --> 01:12:51,598 and to advance 1196 01:12:53,199 --> 01:12:54,702 and to become stronger. 1197 01:13:05,116 --> 01:13:08,891 My wine-making practices 1198 01:13:08,915 --> 01:13:12,419 definitely changed because of war. 1199 01:13:15,135 --> 01:13:20,729 There is no doubt that my wine became for people 1200 01:13:20,754 --> 01:13:25,565 who want to enjoy every single day of their lives. 1201 01:13:25,984 --> 01:13:29,787 I want to enjoy my wine now, not in 10 years. 1202 01:13:30,567 --> 01:13:31,567 And... 1203 01:13:32,395 --> 01:13:34,812 2006 reaffirmed 1204 01:13:36,669 --> 01:13:40,169 that the Lebanese and our culture is about 1205 01:13:44,564 --> 01:13:46,347 daily "dolce vita". 1206 01:13:49,041 --> 01:13:51,761 Summer 2006, 1207 01:13:51,786 --> 01:13:52,936 everything was perfect. 1208 01:13:54,007 --> 01:13:57,729 Ripening of the grapes was going very well 1209 01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:02,909 and then a few skirmishes happened in the south 1210 01:14:02,934 --> 01:14:05,824 and one day, my brother and I were seated here 1211 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,196 watching the news, just to try to understand 1212 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:11,953 what was going on and all the sudden a bridge 1213 01:14:11,978 --> 01:14:15,588 not far from here was hit by the Israeli Air Force. 1214 01:14:17,835 --> 01:14:19,498 And then it was like a movie. 1215 01:14:22,163 --> 01:14:25,343 As if you're not watching a movie 1216 01:14:26,947 --> 01:14:29,154 but you are a subject in the movie. 1217 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,062 From this moment, we started to take measures 1218 01:14:36,086 --> 01:14:41,721 to cope with a longer war in a way. 1219 01:14:42,903 --> 01:14:45,318 I didn't imagine ourselves 1220 01:14:46,518 --> 01:14:49,589 being here, passive, watching. 1221 01:14:51,576 --> 01:14:56,901 The worst experience was the bombing of the candy factory, 1222 01:14:56,945 --> 01:15:02,630 not far from here because we lost the daughter of one 1223 01:15:02,655 --> 01:15:05,454 of our helpers at the restaurant here. 1224 01:15:18,745 --> 01:15:21,058 - Everything was destroyed. Everything with trucks 1225 01:15:21,094 --> 01:15:24,084 was destroyed, drones were destroying everything, 1226 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:25,491 that seems like a truck. 1227 01:15:25,515 --> 01:15:27,771 They destroyed all the bridges, 1228 01:15:28,013 --> 01:15:31,260 so they think now the trucks are taking the old roads 1229 01:15:31,284 --> 01:15:32,373 and they should be destroyed. 1230 01:15:32,397 --> 01:15:34,245 There was no pilot, there was no human in the plane. 1231 01:15:34,270 --> 01:15:35,930 It was drone bombarding, 1232 01:15:35,955 --> 01:15:38,296 so nobody had the courage to go and make the harvest 1233 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:39,620 because it was very risky. 1234 01:15:40,578 --> 01:15:42,948 We went to Serge's office and he told me, 1235 01:15:42,973 --> 01:15:43,985 "What are you going to do?" 1236 01:15:44,010 --> 01:15:45,435 I told him, "We are going to pick." 1237 01:15:45,460 --> 01:15:46,766 He told me, "How can you do it?" 1238 01:15:46,824 --> 01:15:48,836 I told him, "You have your war, let me have my war." 1239 01:15:49,312 --> 01:15:52,883 He said "Okay" and he was on telephone, on air 1240 01:15:52,908 --> 01:15:55,021 with Radio Grape in California. 1241 01:15:59,728 --> 01:16:02,311 (upbeat music) 1242 01:16:04,054 --> 01:16:05,747 - Welcome to Grape Radio, where an enthusiasm 1243 01:16:05,771 --> 01:16:06,989 for wine gets personal. 1244 01:16:07,750 --> 01:16:11,660 And today joining us long distance, we have Serge Hochar 1245 01:16:11,685 --> 01:16:13,361 thanks for joining us, Serge. 1246 01:16:13,396 --> 01:16:15,799 - Thank you, Lebanon, you should add Lebanon. 1247 01:16:16,233 --> 01:16:18,243 - Lebanon is well known right now because 1248 01:16:18,290 --> 01:16:20,041 it's been in all the headlines, how close are you 1249 01:16:20,065 --> 01:16:21,315 to where all the action was? 1250 01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:24,018 - So there was a convoy coming to Bekaa 1251 01:16:24,043 --> 01:16:26,502 and when it arrived to a village called Kefraya. 1252 01:16:27,176 --> 01:16:31,174 I don't know what happened, they were hit by a plane. 1253 01:16:31,999 --> 01:16:36,140 I don't know why. There was a convoy of 1,500 cars 1254 01:16:36,591 --> 01:16:39,689 and it had been prepared with the United Nations 1255 01:16:39,714 --> 01:16:41,749 and it was supposed to be a safe convoy 1256 01:16:41,967 --> 01:16:45,057 and finally, the hit happened in Kefraya 1257 01:16:45,082 --> 01:16:48,325 which is one of the villages where we have our vineyards. 1258 01:16:49,925 --> 01:16:51,566 - Tarek called to tell me that 1259 01:16:52,144 --> 01:16:53,989 we have to pick up the grapes. 1260 01:16:54,216 --> 01:17:01,044 I was worried about the bombs but the grapes were on the line. 1261 01:17:01,695 --> 01:17:04,362 We have to fight and pick up the grapes. 1262 01:17:05,377 --> 01:17:07,877 - We went to the Bekaa Valley, we have no pickers. 1263 01:17:10,585 --> 01:17:13,144 This was a war zone and everything was destroyed 1264 01:17:13,169 --> 01:17:16,282 bridges, roads, trucks, so nobody was here. 1265 01:17:21,921 --> 01:17:24,971 Nobody thought there will be any agricultural movement 1266 01:17:25,018 --> 01:17:26,633 or harvest of any kind. 1267 01:17:27,015 --> 01:17:28,608 Nobody thought that would happen. 1268 01:17:30,905 --> 01:17:34,729 We arrived to the village looking for help. 1269 01:17:34,754 --> 01:17:37,579 It was an emergency so I rang the bell. 1270 01:17:37,814 --> 01:17:40,397 (bell ringing) 1271 01:17:50,911 --> 01:17:58,717 When villagers started gathering around we asked for their help. 1272 01:18:01,338 --> 01:18:03,127 - "Yes, yes, we will do it, we will do it." 1273 01:18:03,152 --> 01:18:05,354 People were astonished because there was no work to do, 1274 01:18:05,379 --> 01:18:07,531 there was nothing to do and people come. 1275 01:18:07,556 --> 01:18:11,532 40, 50 person, ladies, men, it was astonishing. 1276 01:18:13,051 --> 01:18:15,054 There is unknown soldier behind it. 1277 01:18:15,185 --> 01:18:18,545 When the trucks were loaded, we had a big flag. 1278 01:18:18,570 --> 01:18:21,570 We put the big flag on the cases, so the drone can see it. 1279 01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:23,650 And we said, "Let's go." 1280 01:18:23,675 --> 01:18:25,755 Everything was set up, I was alone in my car 1281 01:18:25,779 --> 01:18:27,421 he was alone in his truck and we drove. 1282 01:18:29,032 --> 01:18:31,832 So he was in front, I was backing him behind. 1283 01:18:31,868 --> 01:18:33,718 So if anything happened, I would help 1284 01:18:33,743 --> 01:18:35,554 I would interfere, I would do anything. 1285 01:18:40,937 --> 01:18:45,985 - We could see the drones above our heads. 1286 01:18:46,003 --> 01:18:52,678 We didn't know if we were going to die or not. 1287 01:18:55,392 --> 01:18:57,962 - We can see the trucks on fire 1288 01:18:57,987 --> 01:18:59,937 because they are being hit by missiles, 1289 01:19:02,524 --> 01:19:03,527 and suddenly, boom! 1290 01:19:04,568 --> 01:19:06,720 I saw the smoke coming from the truck. 1291 01:19:06,745 --> 01:19:09,644 I said we were hit by a drone, so I saw the driver 1292 01:19:09,885 --> 01:19:11,636 opening the door and throw himself into the ditch. 1293 01:19:11,661 --> 01:19:13,111 I did like him, I opened the door 1294 01:19:13,136 --> 01:19:14,536 and threw myself into the ditch. 1295 01:19:15,468 --> 01:19:17,135 But when we just look, we saw water 1296 01:19:17,159 --> 01:19:18,433 water coming from the car 1297 01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:20,268 we knew it was the radiator 1298 01:19:20,292 --> 01:19:21,422 because it was smoking, 1299 01:19:22,961 --> 01:19:25,860 and the water was running down and the vapor was going up 1300 01:19:25,885 --> 01:19:27,688 we knew it was the radiator. 1301 01:19:27,716 --> 01:19:28,853 (chuckling) 1302 01:19:28,925 --> 01:19:31,115 As if all your body was waiting 1303 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:34,280 for something and this feeling explode on the radiator. 1304 01:19:34,305 --> 01:19:36,715 Understand, you were tense, we were tense. 1305 01:19:36,818 --> 01:19:38,468 Thank God, it was the radiator! 1306 01:19:39,853 --> 01:19:42,253 We were not wine makers, we were wine crusaders. 1307 01:19:43,398 --> 01:19:45,938 - Sometimes I look at events in Lebanon 1308 01:19:45,963 --> 01:19:49,403 that would just throw Western society. 1309 01:19:49,450 --> 01:19:53,106 The fact we don't have electricity 24 hours a day 1310 01:19:53,130 --> 01:19:54,867 would send people running into the streets 1311 01:19:54,892 --> 01:19:57,572 like zombies in most Western capitals 1312 01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,536 but here we just get on with it. 1313 01:19:59,818 --> 01:20:02,095 We take a cable from here, we put it there 1314 01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:04,771 we plug into a different generator and we make it work. 1315 01:20:04,796 --> 01:20:07,736 Sure, at the beginning it must've been a pain 1316 01:20:08,830 --> 01:20:10,230 but after a while you adapt. 1317 01:20:12,344 --> 01:20:16,324 George Sara is another young man who immediately 1318 01:20:16,349 --> 01:20:20,249 understands conflict and will not be thrown 1319 01:20:20,274 --> 01:20:22,264 or be fazed by conflict. 1320 01:20:22,290 --> 01:20:25,906 He understands that if his wine maker has to land in Syria 1321 01:20:25,930 --> 01:20:28,266 because the airport in Beirut is shut 1322 01:20:28,407 --> 01:20:31,736 and he has to go to the Syrian border to pick his winemaker up 1323 01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,266 to bring him back to start the wine making process 1324 01:20:34,290 --> 01:20:36,793 and the harvest as they had to do in 2006. 1325 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:40,160 That... to a Lebanese 1326 01:20:41,364 --> 01:20:42,997 is just what you have to do. 1327 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:52,316 - James, at the time, was in Paris 1328 01:20:52,342 --> 01:20:54,523 or was in Bordeaux, I think, I don't know, 1329 01:20:54,548 --> 01:20:57,639 he was in France on vacation and I receive a call. 1330 01:20:58,539 --> 01:21:00,309 And I was in Syria at the time because 1331 01:21:00,334 --> 01:21:01,930 at one point I had to leave. 1332 01:21:02,484 --> 01:21:03,756 At the time Syria was safe 1333 01:21:03,780 --> 01:21:05,130 and Lebanon was not. 1334 01:21:05,154 --> 01:21:06,453 So we were there and he's like 1335 01:21:06,477 --> 01:21:08,751 "I have to get back because I have to harvest," 1336 01:21:08,775 --> 01:21:10,232 and I'm like, "James, but it's not possible 1337 01:21:10,277 --> 01:21:11,626 because there are no roads." 1338 01:21:11,650 --> 01:21:15,483 He's like, "I need you to book me a ticket to Damascus 1339 01:21:15,507 --> 01:21:16,776 I need to take a car." 1340 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,428 I'm like, "But James, the roads are destroyed." 1341 01:21:19,744 --> 01:21:21,471 He's like, "I don't care, I have to go back 1342 01:21:21,496 --> 01:21:24,066 I have to harvest, otherwise, we'll miss the year." 1343 01:21:24,249 --> 01:21:27,231 The war is on and we don't know what may happen. 1344 01:21:27,256 --> 01:21:30,481 We were waiting, day by day we kept informed of the events 1345 01:21:30,500 --> 01:21:32,065 and all I was seeing was the date 1346 01:21:32,090 --> 01:21:33,839 of the harvest was getting closer. 1347 01:21:34,634 --> 01:21:36,609 Usually I go and check the grapes 1348 01:21:36,634 --> 01:21:38,927 to see how they are doing 1349 01:21:38,975 --> 01:21:40,320 and I couldn't do that! 1350 01:21:40,902 --> 01:21:43,384 So I reserve a ticket for James 1351 01:21:43,830 --> 01:21:46,746 he comes to Damascus 1352 01:21:46,770 --> 01:21:49,983 we get in the car, we drive up to the borders. 1353 01:21:51,067 --> 01:21:54,440 This is actually a very lucky story 1354 01:21:54,465 --> 01:21:58,009 a stroke of luck because the day he arrived 1355 01:21:58,033 --> 01:21:59,994 was the day they stopped the war. 1356 01:22:00,144 --> 01:22:05,144 - As soon as I heard that the war was over 1357 01:22:05,169 --> 01:22:09,343 the next morning, which was August 15th. 1358 01:22:09,795 --> 01:22:11,241 I tried but couldn't get a flight 1359 01:22:11,249 --> 01:22:13,241 because everything was closed. 1360 01:22:13,266 --> 01:22:16,818 So on the 16th, I got a flight to Damascus 1361 01:22:16,843 --> 01:22:19,575 in Damascus, the road was destroyed. 1362 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,676 He picked me up at the airport 1363 01:22:21,701 --> 01:22:25,120 and dropped me off at the border in the "free zone," 1364 01:22:25,145 --> 01:22:27,016 which was destroyed between the two countries. 1365 01:22:27,083 --> 01:22:28,755 He left me there I walked through 1366 01:22:28,779 --> 01:22:31,953 the "free zone" with my baggage in hand 1367 01:22:31,978 --> 01:22:34,344 and picked up a taxi on the other side, 1368 01:22:34,369 --> 01:22:35,428 it took me to the winery, 1369 01:22:35,452 --> 01:22:36,619 arriving the evening of the 16th. 1370 01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:38,986 Two days later, we began harvesting 1371 01:22:39,568 --> 01:22:41,408 I was very relieved! 1372 01:22:41,433 --> 01:22:43,096 - I remember it very well, there's a huge crater 1373 01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,680 in the middle of the road and he's there with his Samsonite 1374 01:22:45,705 --> 01:22:48,262 black bag carrying it in his hand 1375 01:22:48,287 --> 01:22:49,567 and I stop at the crater, I'm like, 1376 01:22:49,591 --> 01:22:51,862 "I'm sorry I can't go further." 1377 01:22:51,933 --> 01:22:55,128 Had the war lasted longer 1378 01:22:55,153 --> 01:22:57,086 we would have lost a great deal 1379 01:22:57,092 --> 01:22:59,284 of our Chardonnay and Sauvignon 1380 01:22:59,309 --> 01:23:01,518 mostly the whites and some Merlot 1381 01:23:01,543 --> 01:23:04,838 so there, it was a miracle! 1382 01:23:06,309 --> 01:23:08,301 The war stopped at the perfect moment. 1383 01:23:13,233 --> 01:23:16,630 - So this is why war for me was a lucky thing. 1384 01:23:17,237 --> 01:23:19,443 War forced me to get out of Lebanon. 1385 01:23:20,026 --> 01:23:23,857 War was the reason why, instead of Lebanon 1386 01:23:23,882 --> 01:23:28,159 we became a global wine all over the world, okay? 1387 01:23:28,772 --> 01:23:32,922 This is a good reason, so please, thank you for war 1388 01:23:32,947 --> 01:23:36,060 because of war, we were delayed in the harvesting 1389 01:23:36,084 --> 01:23:41,797 like in 1984, I had to harvest due to political reasons 1390 01:23:41,822 --> 01:23:43,496 and not due to weather reasons. 1391 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:44,907 This is why today I became, 1392 01:23:44,931 --> 01:23:48,938 I became myself very addicted to old wines because 1393 01:23:48,963 --> 01:23:54,115 the wine, sometimes, is not ready, which happened to me 1394 01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,829 two years ago, we had the visit, of your friend here 1395 01:23:57,854 --> 01:23:59,615 whose name is Paul Grieco. 1396 01:24:00,030 --> 01:24:02,008 - I long for something like that, 1397 01:24:02,032 --> 01:24:03,800 it was never part of my personal experience. 1398 01:24:03,825 --> 01:24:07,097 How cool would it be to go there? 1399 01:24:07,780 --> 01:24:10,336 And then it became one of, I can't believe I'm actually 1400 01:24:10,360 --> 01:24:12,626 going to Lebanon, like, I must be out of my goddamn mind 1401 01:24:12,650 --> 01:24:14,333 and when I flew into the airport. 1402 01:24:16,015 --> 01:24:17,798 I wasn't tension filled 1403 01:24:18,632 --> 01:24:21,212 when I left the airport, it was like 1404 01:24:21,237 --> 01:24:25,347 oh, so buildings bombed out 1405 01:24:25,372 --> 01:24:29,294 shrapnel marks everywhere, tanks on the street. 1406 01:24:29,448 --> 01:24:34,248 It's not part of that usual wine country trip 1407 01:24:34,273 --> 01:24:38,773 scenery that you get when you go to Mosel river valley 1408 01:24:38,798 --> 01:24:41,318 or Bordeaux or Tuscany, whatever and ultimately 1409 01:24:41,343 --> 01:24:42,752 when I look at a bottle of wine, 1410 01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:46,283 it's just grape juice with alcohol, that is what it is, 1411 01:24:46,660 --> 01:24:50,030 and it is everything surrounding the bottle of wine 1412 01:24:50,055 --> 01:24:53,184 religion, history, philosophy 1413 01:24:53,208 --> 01:24:55,278 culture, civilization, movement of mankind 1414 01:24:55,303 --> 01:24:57,133 blah, blah, blah... 1415 01:24:57,160 --> 01:24:58,383 that pulls me into this. 1416 01:24:59,849 --> 01:25:01,366 - And Paul Grieco told me, "Serge, 1417 01:25:01,390 --> 01:25:02,914 I want to taste the '84." 1418 01:25:02,939 --> 01:25:06,062 I told him, "Paul, it's not wine. 1419 01:25:06,136 --> 01:25:07,193 I said "Look... 1420 01:25:07,217 --> 01:25:10,806 It's probably evolving, it's probably become a port 1421 01:25:10,830 --> 01:25:12,252 but it's not wine," 1422 01:25:12,276 --> 01:25:16,526 and then I opened the bottle, he tasted it and said, "Serge. 1423 01:25:17,858 --> 01:25:19,859 I will list this wine if you ship it to the US." 1424 01:25:19,896 --> 01:25:21,386 - It was like, holy shit, what roller coaster 1425 01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:22,456 ride is this thing on? 1426 01:25:22,610 --> 01:25:25,933 And it wasn't-most wine follows a beautiful arc. 1427 01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:28,250 At least that's what I've read and been taught 1428 01:25:28,285 --> 01:25:29,325 and all of those things. 1429 01:25:29,410 --> 01:25:31,860 Serge's wine never followed a goddamn arc 1430 01:25:31,885 --> 01:25:33,625 from beginning to middle to end. 1431 01:25:34,411 --> 01:25:37,796 It began, and then it went down, and then it came back up 1432 01:25:37,821 --> 01:25:39,901 and it went down, it was like all over the goddamn place 1433 01:25:39,926 --> 01:25:42,124 which made every interaction with it 1434 01:25:42,820 --> 01:25:46,714 a thrill ride, again tension, at times, you never knew which you 1435 01:25:46,739 --> 01:25:49,169 were going to get and then you hear 1436 01:25:49,194 --> 01:25:50,844 "Well, we're not bottling it, we never 1437 01:25:50,869 --> 01:25:52,083 wanted to, we never will." 1438 01:25:52,107 --> 01:25:54,712 It's like, excuse me? 1439 01:25:57,420 --> 01:26:00,866 - Serge was an ultimate character to me because 1440 01:26:00,890 --> 01:26:04,583 of the relentless stubborn passion 1441 01:26:04,607 --> 01:26:06,018 with which he lived his life. 1442 01:26:06,443 --> 01:26:10,215 You know, there are people who talk a lot of smack about living 1443 01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:12,674 a passionate life and showing up and being in the moment 1444 01:26:12,699 --> 01:26:16,079 and experiencing every instant and wasting nothing 1445 01:26:16,104 --> 01:26:19,374 and following their curiosity and then there are people 1446 01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:22,716 who do it and the difference between people who speak 1447 01:26:22,740 --> 01:26:24,900 about it and people who actually do it is vast 1448 01:26:24,925 --> 01:26:27,785 and when you find somebody who has actually devoted 1449 01:26:27,830 --> 01:26:32,586 their entire life to passionate, awake, conscious 1450 01:26:32,610 --> 01:26:36,983 delighted, sensory living, they're magnetic. 1451 01:26:37,691 --> 01:26:39,526 - I hope you do not like it. 1452 01:26:40,232 --> 01:26:41,839 I hope you do not like it. 1453 01:26:42,910 --> 01:26:45,284 - He was very, very engaging 1454 01:26:45,315 --> 01:26:47,729 he genuinely, I think, liked people 1455 01:26:47,999 --> 01:26:51,172 and wanted them to engage with him 1456 01:26:51,196 --> 01:26:55,180 and loved very, very distinctive conversations, 1457 01:26:55,205 --> 01:26:57,399 which could rapidly veer off. 1458 01:26:57,797 --> 01:27:00,344 He didn't really want to talk about the certain 1459 01:27:00,376 --> 01:27:02,636 sort of things that most wine makers want to talk about 1460 01:27:02,671 --> 01:27:05,231 fermentation temperatures, different oaks 1461 01:27:05,257 --> 01:27:08,177 that sort of thing, he was much more interested 1462 01:27:08,202 --> 01:27:11,522 in wine as social glue, if you like 1463 01:27:11,550 --> 01:27:13,943 what wine could do for humanity. 1464 01:27:15,934 --> 01:27:19,065 I've been to Lebanon twice, once in 1970 1465 01:27:19,099 --> 01:27:22,519 when it was absolutely the jewel of the Middle East 1466 01:27:22,543 --> 01:27:26,043 everyone was having a great time, very relaxed 1467 01:27:26,097 --> 01:27:32,106 and then again, in 1980, to visit Chateau Musar with Serge. 1468 01:27:32,325 --> 01:27:34,355 I was traveling with one other wine writer, 1469 01:27:34,390 --> 01:27:36,486 we had to go through, I think, three different 1470 01:27:36,510 --> 01:27:39,916 really quite difficult army checkpoints. 1471 01:27:39,958 --> 01:27:43,095 Serge couldn't come and meet us at the airport. 1472 01:27:43,420 --> 01:27:47,010 You were very, very aware of the fact that you were entering 1473 01:27:47,048 --> 01:27:49,538 not a current war zone but one that could 1474 01:27:50,302 --> 01:27:52,706 return to being a war zone at any moment. 1475 01:27:53,430 --> 01:27:56,510 - What made you take a trip to Lebanon in a civil war? 1476 01:27:56,928 --> 01:27:59,128 - That's a very, very good question. 1477 01:27:59,153 --> 01:28:04,743 I've always loved adventure and loved travel and been curious 1478 01:28:04,768 --> 01:28:07,338 and always been on the side of the underdog 1479 01:28:07,363 --> 01:28:10,233 as far as wine is concerned and Lebanese wine 1480 01:28:10,258 --> 01:28:12,321 was much, much less well known then 1481 01:28:12,346 --> 01:28:15,559 and I felt it needed a bit of attention. 1482 01:28:18,738 --> 01:28:22,418 - What I took away from my experience with Serge 1483 01:28:22,450 --> 01:28:26,584 was less about the wines in particular 1484 01:28:26,624 --> 01:28:28,464 and more about a way of being. 1485 01:28:29,090 --> 01:28:33,500 What remains in me is this one particular thing that he said 1486 01:28:33,527 --> 01:28:36,647 that was one of those sort of clues of life changing 1487 01:28:36,672 --> 01:28:39,108 information that somebody gives you at an important moment 1488 01:28:39,142 --> 01:28:42,163 and we were sitting on his balcony, we were drinking this 1489 01:28:42,187 --> 01:28:46,107 1972 wine that he had made right after he had taken over 1490 01:28:46,132 --> 01:28:49,539 the winery and he was instructing me on how to... 1491 01:28:49,564 --> 01:28:52,430 he said, "We're gonna sit here all afternoon and drink this. 1492 01:28:52,454 --> 01:28:54,295 We're gonna start at three o'clock and 1493 01:28:54,319 --> 01:28:55,728 we're not gonna be done until nine o'clock, 1494 01:28:55,752 --> 01:28:56,908 this one bottle of wine. 1495 01:28:56,959 --> 01:28:59,005 We're gonna let it sit and then we're gonna have a little more 1496 01:28:59,032 --> 01:29:00,426 and then we're gonna talk about it and then 1497 01:29:00,450 --> 01:29:01,954 we're gonna have a little more and we're gonna 1498 01:29:01,978 --> 01:29:03,651 talk about it, we're gonna watch the light change 1499 01:29:03,682 --> 01:29:05,002 we're gonna watch the wine change 1500 01:29:05,027 --> 01:29:06,805 and we're gonna have this experience together." 1501 01:29:06,956 --> 01:29:10,131 And while he was talking, I kept trying to kind of impress 1502 01:29:10,168 --> 01:29:12,365 him by telling him what the wine tasted like 1503 01:29:12,390 --> 01:29:14,639 and he kept saying, "It's too soon to judge it." 1504 01:29:14,664 --> 01:29:16,084 Now at this point, 1505 01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:18,806 we're three hours in to one bottle of wine 1506 01:29:18,830 --> 01:29:21,043 and he just kept holding me back and saying, 1507 01:29:21,067 --> 01:29:23,136 "I don't want your conclusions on this 1508 01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,436 let's just talk about what it's making you feel 1509 01:29:25,460 --> 01:29:26,883 what it's reminding you of." 1510 01:29:27,106 --> 01:29:29,865 and I kept trying to say, "Well, it tastes like this" 1511 01:29:29,890 --> 01:29:31,923 and he said, "You don't know yet what tastes like. 1512 01:29:31,947 --> 01:29:34,673 It hasn't grown yet, we need to let the wine 1513 01:29:34,697 --> 01:29:36,287 be the whole bottle." 1514 01:29:37,159 --> 01:29:39,716 and he had this wonderful line where he said 1515 01:29:39,747 --> 01:29:41,273 "Just like people 1516 01:29:42,457 --> 01:29:44,434 wine is something that you cannot judge 1517 01:29:44,458 --> 01:29:48,279 until you've seen it through every season of its being. 1518 01:29:49,499 --> 01:29:54,109 So don't rush to a judgment on anybody or anything until 1519 01:29:54,134 --> 01:29:57,224 you've seen it through every season of its incarnation." 1520 01:29:59,050 --> 01:30:01,263 And I have never forgotten that, I cannot tell you 1521 01:30:01,288 --> 01:30:04,258 how many times when I'm in conflict 1522 01:30:04,283 --> 01:30:06,316 with somebody in a relationship 1523 01:30:07,727 --> 01:30:10,227 whether it's a friend or a relative or a neighbor 1524 01:30:11,115 --> 01:30:13,921 I just think we're not done with this bottle of wine yet. 1525 01:30:13,945 --> 01:30:16,529 Before you start labeling this person 1526 01:30:16,554 --> 01:30:20,304 or sort of putting them in a box or deciding something 1527 01:30:20,329 --> 01:30:21,672 about them, just wait. 1528 01:30:22,884 --> 01:30:24,724 You haven't seen them through all their seasons yet 1529 01:30:24,749 --> 01:30:26,629 this is just a moment in this person's life 1530 01:30:26,654 --> 01:30:28,594 and you're at a moment in your own life and tomorrow 1531 01:30:28,630 --> 01:30:30,866 they're gonna be completely different and so are you 1532 01:30:30,890 --> 01:30:32,446 so just hold back. 1533 01:30:32,470 --> 01:30:33,596 That was always his thing. 1534 01:30:33,620 --> 01:30:35,436 wait, not so fast, right? 1535 01:30:35,460 --> 01:30:39,016 Not so fast and don't judge it, don't declare anything 1536 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,686 just watch the story unfold 1537 01:30:41,710 --> 01:30:45,133 and that to me is spiritual mastery. 1538 01:30:48,629 --> 01:30:53,162 - His wines appealed to people but it was he who really 1539 01:30:53,187 --> 01:30:56,947 gave the wine character and how he came to die 1540 01:30:56,972 --> 01:30:58,745 again, was very original. 1541 01:31:01,076 --> 01:31:02,510 Going for a walk on the beach 1542 01:31:04,222 --> 01:31:05,902 (melancholy piano music) 1543 01:31:07,499 --> 01:31:08,924 never to be seen again. 1544 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:12,360 (waves crashing) 1545 01:31:15,799 --> 01:31:16,877 Memorable. 1546 01:31:25,378 --> 01:31:28,204 - The '84 was an accident at infancy 1547 01:31:28,228 --> 01:31:30,940 born, conceived in accident. 1548 01:31:30,965 --> 01:31:31,995 (chuckling) 1549 01:31:32,239 --> 01:31:33,999 We didn't invent the '84. 1550 01:31:34,151 --> 01:31:37,297 It could have not come to the winery and there's no story. 1551 01:31:38,613 --> 01:31:40,668 - So you see wine is a miracle 1552 01:31:40,693 --> 01:31:41,989 this is why I believe in wine. 1553 01:31:42,461 --> 01:31:43,967 This is why I'm giving you all the 1554 01:31:43,991 --> 01:31:45,451 story to give you a philosophy. 1555 01:31:46,246 --> 01:31:47,289 What is wine? 1556 01:31:47,820 --> 01:31:49,982 Wine is beyond anything you could think of. 1557 01:31:50,709 --> 01:31:52,209 The biggest medicine on Earth, 1558 01:31:52,905 --> 01:31:53,935 the biggest miracle, 1559 01:31:55,166 --> 01:31:57,817 wine is the link 1560 01:31:57,841 --> 01:32:01,058 between God and humanity. 1561 01:32:01,344 --> 01:32:02,620 Wine is the link. 1562 01:32:03,218 --> 01:32:05,050 Should I continue or should I stop? 1563 01:32:05,432 --> 01:32:06,701 No, I'll stop. 1564 01:32:06,725 --> 01:32:07,753 Done. 1565 01:32:09,538 --> 01:32:13,940 We imagine that wine is another product. 1566 01:32:14,483 --> 01:32:17,363 Wine is not another product, it's another life. 1567 01:32:18,650 --> 01:32:21,566 And because we cannot master and control life 1568 01:32:21,769 --> 01:32:24,042 we cannot pretend that we can control wine. 1569 01:32:25,949 --> 01:32:28,115 It's such an unbelievable teacher 1570 01:32:28,991 --> 01:32:32,834 because wine makes people communicate 1571 01:32:33,246 --> 01:32:36,152 and when you communicate, you can make peace 1572 01:32:36,177 --> 01:32:37,339 you don't make war. 1573 01:32:38,044 --> 01:32:40,544 (light music) 1574 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,347 (upbeat, playful music) 117016

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