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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,340 --> 00:00:11,420 Patty Hearst turned her back on her life of privilege. 2 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:13,120 We had to prove that. 3 00:00:13,340 --> 00:00:14,340 The gun's loaded. 4 00:00:14,660 --> 00:00:16,820 I'm a soldier in the People's Army. 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,940 She must have been forced to do it. She could have escaped if she'd wanted to. 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:25,120 He saved my life. I think she was spectacular. 7 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,120 We don't know where she is. 8 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:30,840 LAPD, they were closing in. You know, make our day. 9 00:00:32,460 --> 00:00:34,500 I did what I had to do. 10 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:35,800 If she was in there. 11 00:00:36,380 --> 00:00:37,380 God willed it. 12 00:00:39,620 --> 00:00:44,580 The granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst was abducted by two men and a 13 00:00:44,580 --> 00:00:46,040 in a bizarre kidnapping. 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,200 No ransom note, no phone calls, no word, nothing. 15 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,960 The SLA is the people's army and we fight in their interest. 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,800 The FBI said the girl in the wig with the automatic rifle was Patricia Hearst. 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,260 Rich college girl turned armed terrorist in a matter of weeks. 18 00:01:08,980 --> 00:01:11,600 Southern California's largest manhunt continues. 19 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,700 For someone my age, I've been through an awful lot. 20 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,340 We don't know where she is. 21 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:22,120 Mom, Dad, I'm okay. 22 00:01:30,700 --> 00:01:32,100 Coming off now. 23 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:36,880 The chopper is overhead observing. The fire is raging. Now, we've got a better 24 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,759 vantage point. 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,460 And you can hear the officer. I don't know if you can hear the officer yelling 26 00:01:40,460 --> 00:01:44,900 at us, but he just yelled that we are in the line of fire. The police now are 27 00:01:44,900 --> 00:01:48,180 broadcasting to the people in the house to cease fire. I can hear their 28 00:01:48,180 --> 00:01:49,180 megaphone. 29 00:01:50,020 --> 00:01:54,240 As soon as we turn on the TV, we see cops scurrying around and we hear 30 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:58,940 The area is still definitely sealed. That automatic weapons fire is from... 31 00:01:59,370 --> 00:02:02,910 What we can gather here coming from a police officer's weapon. 32 00:02:03,150 --> 00:02:07,050 There are more police now. This place is getting, filling up with police. 33 00:02:07,350 --> 00:02:09,389 I remember her saying it one time. 34 00:02:11,610 --> 00:02:13,530 She thought she heard Willie's gun. 35 00:02:13,830 --> 00:02:16,650 She thought she identified Willie firing back at them. 36 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:19,690 She was in this, still in this badass mode. 37 00:02:22,190 --> 00:02:26,470 We're trying to bring you these live pictures as they occur. 38 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:32,190 We're using the car here as the cover. We thought all the other stations were 39 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:36,770 competing with us for picture. We didn't know we had the only exclusive picture 40 00:02:36,770 --> 00:02:41,630 from the scene and that we were starting to share it with all the stations in 41 00:02:41,630 --> 00:02:45,530 the area and then across the country. So we didn't know it. 42 00:02:46,010 --> 00:02:50,770 But we were ushering in a new age. We were basically saying goodbye to the age 43 00:02:50,770 --> 00:02:57,210 of television news on film and hello to the age of television news on 44 00:02:57,210 --> 00:02:59,110 videotape and live. 45 00:02:59,510 --> 00:03:05,950 There is still fire coming from inside the Target house, which is across the 46 00:03:05,950 --> 00:03:09,450 street, as I said before, from us right now. The house is burning and they're 47 00:03:09,450 --> 00:03:10,379 still shooting. 48 00:03:10,380 --> 00:03:13,840 But there was smoke everywhere, and we couldn't see the house. And somebody 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,000 said, hey, they're shooting out of the crawl spaces. 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,400 And so they had kicked out the floor furnace and gone under the house. 51 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,680 Two females exit the back of the house. 52 00:03:27,980 --> 00:03:33,360 Nancy Perry got out, and she had a gas mask on. She had a gun in either hand, 53 00:03:33,380 --> 00:03:35,920 pistols. She was shot and killed. 54 00:03:36,300 --> 00:03:37,820 Camilla Hall was... 55 00:03:38,420 --> 00:03:43,340 just inside, and I know she was shot in the head because I saw it. Then somebody 56 00:03:43,340 --> 00:03:45,060 drug her back inside, underneath. 57 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:52,040 So we began to put rounds in the crawl spaces, and they were all killed in the 58 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,040 crawl spaces. 59 00:03:53,220 --> 00:03:57,580 And, of course, the obvious conclusion is that the Los Angeles police have 60 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:01,860 indeed found the nesting place of the Symbionese Liberation Army, and there's 61 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:02,860 not much left of it now. 62 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:08,100 It was like 62 minutes from first to last, you know, where we were giving the 63 00:04:08,100 --> 00:04:12,800 announcements and it didn't take long once the house started on fire. That 64 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,440 it. We just stood there and we were just, you know, pretty 65 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:22,640 shocked by how this whole thing ended. 66 00:04:23,220 --> 00:04:27,540 It was found that there was a can of gas and it was bullet -ridden. 67 00:04:28,140 --> 00:04:32,900 Those tear gas grenades hit that puddle of gas that was created by the gas can 68 00:04:32,900 --> 00:04:35,160 leaking, and that really caused a fire. 69 00:04:35,580 --> 00:04:38,580 Never seen anybody not try to escape a fire. 70 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:42,020 I think they were that committed, I mean, or that crazy. 71 00:04:46,380 --> 00:04:52,360 We're watching this for a couple hours, and really there's very little dialogues 72 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:53,380 going on between us. 73 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:56,860 There was really nothing to say. 74 00:04:57,770 --> 00:05:04,710 We all knew, and we didn't have to talk about it, that what was happening before 75 00:05:04,710 --> 00:05:07,510 our eyes on the television was our responsibility. 76 00:05:09,330 --> 00:05:15,270 That we got into this shit at Mel's Sporting Goods Store and all of our 77 00:05:15,270 --> 00:05:20,730 subsequent escapades trying to stay a little bit ahead of the police had 78 00:05:20,730 --> 00:05:22,370 them to end up being encircled. 79 00:05:23,290 --> 00:05:25,570 We realized it's our fault. 80 00:05:28,110 --> 00:05:31,270 I mean, it's really kind of on me. I'm the one that got stopped coming out of 81 00:05:31,270 --> 00:05:32,270 the store. 82 00:05:32,570 --> 00:05:36,630 We will continue to monitor the scene here and bring back reports to you as 83 00:05:36,630 --> 00:05:40,250 occur. It's getting too dark to get a picture. This is Bill Diaz in South Los 84 00:05:40,250 --> 00:05:45,950 Angeles. For the history of Los Angeles police, it is the longest, most intense 85 00:05:45,950 --> 00:05:48,150 shootout in the city's history. 86 00:05:49,030 --> 00:05:51,930 LAPD fired over 5 ,300 rounds. 87 00:05:52,750 --> 00:05:53,750 SLA fired. 88 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,500 An estimated 3 ,000 or 4 ,000 rounds, some of them were cookouts. 89 00:05:58,180 --> 00:06:03,880 83 tear gas canisters were fired by LAPD. There were 18 weapons recovered 90 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:04,880 the fire. 91 00:06:05,140 --> 00:06:11,880 Two pipe bombs were found unexploded in the location 92 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,580 after the fire. 93 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:17,200 23 homes were damaged in the shootout. 94 00:06:17,540 --> 00:06:21,860 No police officers were shot and no innocent bystanders were injured at all. 95 00:06:24,919 --> 00:06:29,520 The coroner arrived at the scene, and they were looking at the bodies and 96 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:30,520 to determine. 97 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,560 Everybody wanted to know if Patty Hearst was there. 98 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:37,940 I actually had gone down to L .A. a few days before to get away from it all. 99 00:06:38,380 --> 00:06:43,720 We heard a bulletin saying they had the SLA cornered somewhere in Compton. I got 100 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,040 in the car and drove up. 101 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:48,700 We got there. The place was a smoking ruins. 102 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,760 You know, for a while it was devastating. We had no idea who was 103 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Five bodies were found initially. 104 00:07:02,940 --> 00:07:05,940 The sixth body was not found until the following day. 105 00:07:06,300 --> 00:07:09,840 When they recovered that body, everybody thought that was Patty Hearst. 106 00:07:10,060 --> 00:07:14,760 And that's when everybody took a kind of a breath like, my God, is it Patty? Was 107 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,120 she really there? 108 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,880 There were six SLA members inside the house. 109 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:20,480 Nancy Ling Perry. 110 00:07:21,290 --> 00:07:27,910 Camilla Hall, Patricia Soulstick, Willie Wolf, Donald David 111 00:07:27,910 --> 00:07:31,310 DeVries, Angela Abbott. 112 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:38,650 The news story became, 113 00:07:38,870 --> 00:07:41,310 where's Patty Hearst? What's happened to her? 114 00:07:43,870 --> 00:07:48,290 Considering everything I've been through up to that time in my life, throw 115 00:07:48,290 --> 00:07:49,290 Vietnam in. 116 00:07:50,380 --> 00:07:53,660 May 17, 1974 was the worst day of my life. 117 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:06,200 I don't remember truly what anybody really did or what any of us said, other 118 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,260 than the fact I remember that Patricia wanted to retaliate immediately. 119 00:08:11,140 --> 00:08:13,180 She was devastated and angry. 120 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,840 She loved somebody that had just been murdered by the government. 121 00:08:18,990 --> 00:08:23,310 It was necessary to keep going, you know, to stay alive. 122 00:08:23,850 --> 00:08:28,490 But I realized that, you know, we just had to get the fuck out of L .A. We had 123 00:08:28,490 --> 00:08:29,750 to live to fight another day. 124 00:08:34,090 --> 00:08:39,049 FBI agents and California police hunted for Patricia Hearst today as an armed 125 00:08:39,049 --> 00:08:40,970 and extremely dangerous fugitive. 126 00:08:44,570 --> 00:08:48,090 With few resources, little money, we had to figure out what we were going to do 127 00:08:48,090 --> 00:08:53,130 next. We realized that our only option was to go back to where we just escaped 128 00:08:53,130 --> 00:08:54,130 from. 129 00:08:56,070 --> 00:08:59,090 But we had to wait a while. We waited about two weeks. 130 00:08:59,770 --> 00:09:01,270 We picked up Memorial Day. 131 00:09:01,530 --> 00:09:04,310 It's going to be a lot of people on the road. It's going to be more difficult 132 00:09:04,310 --> 00:09:07,210 for them to isolate us in that traffic. 133 00:09:07,630 --> 00:09:08,890 We had just bought a car. 134 00:09:09,710 --> 00:09:13,430 Kind of an old car that Patricia laid down on the back seat because they're 135 00:09:13,430 --> 00:09:14,430 looking for three people. 136 00:09:15,350 --> 00:09:21,830 We request that citizens assessing any information relating to the 137 00:09:21,830 --> 00:09:27,450 whereabouts of these badly wanted, armed, and extremely dangerous 138 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:33,950 Patricia Hearst, William Harris, and Emily Harris, immediately contact the 139 00:09:34,990 --> 00:09:38,490 You know, we had hundreds of agents covering leads. They were looking at 140 00:09:38,490 --> 00:09:42,050 lots, stolen vehicle reports, anything unusual. 141 00:09:42,270 --> 00:09:47,430 At the end of the day, after the shootout in Los Angeles, it's as though 142 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:48,430 disappeared. 143 00:09:50,370 --> 00:09:56,850 As always with the SLA, they are drawn ultimately to Berkeley because they feel 144 00:09:56,850 --> 00:10:01,250 that's the only place that they can find any sort of support. 145 00:10:03,780 --> 00:10:09,980 And we get down into the hay and the panhandle, and the car just dies. 146 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:15,380 We happen to be right in front of the house of some people that we know. 147 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,980 We knock on the door, and they come to the door, and they go, oh, shit, we 148 00:10:18,980 --> 00:10:19,659 believe it. 149 00:10:19,660 --> 00:10:21,520 The FBI just left here, man. 150 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:26,500 Next morning, they fed us, and they gave us a bunch of cash that they had from 151 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:27,500 their savings. 152 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:32,220 Emily found us a place in East Oakland, and we got to get to the East Bay. 153 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,040 We don't have a car. We have to ride Muni now together, public transport. 154 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,800 are buses and trolleys. 155 00:10:38,620 --> 00:10:43,060 Emily left her shotgun with me and her, so between us, we had one of those big 156 00:10:43,060 --> 00:10:46,100 shopping bags, and it was long enough to keep all the weapons in. 157 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:51,100 It looked better for this woman to be carrying the big shopping bag, so hers 158 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:52,500 carrying a heavy thing. 159 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:58,520 I mean, I remember thinking about it. It was funny. We're riding, here we are, 160 00:10:58,540 --> 00:11:02,060 riding the San Francisco Muni, bag full of guns. 161 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,960 in the vicinity of where we had the Golden Gate safe house. 162 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:11,140 It's insane, this crazy shit. We had a unique capacity for survival. 163 00:11:13,460 --> 00:11:17,120 We had to try to, you know, get some people to help us out, and we needed to 164 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,600 some money without having to rob banks to do it. We didn't need any more drama 165 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,040 that we couldn't deal with because we were down to three people. 166 00:11:24,980 --> 00:11:30,100 Thank you, Willie, Camilla, Miss Moon, and Bahisa. 167 00:11:30,910 --> 00:11:35,590 were viciously attacked and murdered by 500 pigs in L .A. while the whole nation 168 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:42,290 watched. There was one political rally, and it was at Berkeley, and it was 169 00:11:42,290 --> 00:11:48,950 organized and hosted by a woman named Kathy Solia. Kathy Solia 170 00:11:48,950 --> 00:11:54,610 was an actress, and she was Angela Atwood's best friend. 171 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:59,540 We saw Kathleen Sawyer's picture in the newspaper while she was giving a 172 00:11:59,540 --> 00:12:02,920 memorial for Angela and the rest of the comrades that died. 173 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:07,220 Kathy, I had met through Angela, and I knew her a little tiny bit. 174 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:12,540 Normally, she would have not been a person that I would look up because 175 00:12:12,540 --> 00:12:16,180 was too much of a connection in the recent past with Angela. 176 00:12:16,380 --> 00:12:17,620 But we were desperate. 177 00:12:30,239 --> 00:12:32,900 We ended up having this meeting with her. 178 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,760 Kathy brought Jim, her boyfriend, and I think her sister, Josephine, was with 179 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:38,760 her. 180 00:12:39,460 --> 00:12:44,300 She wanted to help us. She wasn't afraid that we were going to get her in 181 00:12:44,300 --> 00:12:47,760 trouble. They gave us enough money to keep us going for a minute. 182 00:12:48,350 --> 00:12:51,010 Bill, Emily, and Patricia are like hunted animals. 183 00:12:51,270 --> 00:12:56,970 They are running from the law, running from what they regard as certain death. 184 00:12:57,270 --> 00:13:03,030 But they have one thing they want to do. They want to memorialize the six of 185 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:04,150 their comrades who died. 186 00:13:04,590 --> 00:13:09,390 At approximately 6 .30 this morning, the radio station received an anonymous 187 00:13:09,390 --> 00:13:14,710 call stating in effect that the SLA had a communique for us. 188 00:13:15,210 --> 00:13:18,350 The SLA ceased to exist after everybody got killed. 189 00:13:19,010 --> 00:13:22,350 The people that helped us stay alive were not in the SLA. 190 00:13:23,630 --> 00:13:24,910 The SLA was murdered. 191 00:13:26,610 --> 00:13:30,270 We had to kind of send a last communique, and we had to eulogize our 192 00:13:30,330 --> 00:13:33,730 And Patricia, she wanted to do the eulogies. 193 00:13:37,730 --> 00:13:38,970 Greetings to the people. 194 00:13:39,650 --> 00:13:40,770 This is Tanya. 195 00:13:42,250 --> 00:13:46,970 I want to talk about the way I knew our six murdered comrades, because the 196 00:13:46,970 --> 00:13:52,110 fascist pig media has, of course, been painting a typically distorted picture 197 00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:53,730 these beautiful sisters and brothers. 198 00:13:55,530 --> 00:13:59,510 Cujo was the gentlest, most beautiful man I've ever known. 199 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,830 We loved each other so much. 200 00:14:03,850 --> 00:14:08,370 Neither Cujo or I had ever loved an individual the way we loved each other. 201 00:14:08,990 --> 00:14:13,770 Probably because our relationship wasn't based on bourgeois fucked -up values, 202 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:15,310 attitudes, and goals. 203 00:14:17,810 --> 00:14:21,770 It's because of this that I still feel strong and determined to fight. 204 00:14:22,850 --> 00:14:26,030 I was ripped off by the pigs when they murdered Cujo. 205 00:14:26,430 --> 00:14:30,850 The pigs probably have the little old -neck monkey that Cujo wore around his 206 00:14:30,850 --> 00:14:31,850 neck. 207 00:14:33,070 --> 00:14:37,370 She exactly described him as he was, as she encountered him. 208 00:14:37,930 --> 00:14:40,290 Now she talks about Sinque. 209 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:45,690 Sinque loved the people with tenderness and respect. 210 00:14:46,810 --> 00:14:51,150 He helped me see that it's not how long we live that's important. It's how we 211 00:14:51,150 --> 00:14:53,930 live. What we decide to do with our lives. 212 00:14:55,510 --> 00:14:58,430 I died in that fire on 54th Street. 213 00:14:58,830 --> 00:15:00,890 But out of the ashes I was reborn. 214 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:03,290 I know what I have to do. 215 00:15:04,930 --> 00:15:08,870 While I have no death wish, I have never been afraid of death. 216 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:13,990 For this reason, the brainwashed arrest theory of the pig hearths has always 217 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:14,990 amused me. 218 00:15:16,450 --> 00:15:21,410 And I would never choose to live the rest of my life surrounded by pigs like 219 00:15:21,410 --> 00:15:22,410 hearths. 220 00:15:24,390 --> 00:15:29,470 Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. 221 00:15:34,330 --> 00:15:35,430 We got nothing. 222 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:37,740 We had no other option. 223 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,580 Kathy said to us that there was a possibility she could hook us up with a 224 00:15:43,580 --> 00:15:47,540 of hers named Jack Scott, and I realized exactly who she was talking about. 225 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,360 But I had never met him. I only knew that he was the sports editor for 226 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:53,360 magazine. 227 00:15:53,780 --> 00:15:58,020 The first time I heard about the Symbionese Liberation Army, Jack and I 228 00:15:58,020 --> 00:15:59,220 moved to New York. 229 00:15:59,820 --> 00:16:01,720 It was in the media. 230 00:16:03,260 --> 00:16:06,880 It was very fascinating, especially since we had lived in Berkeley for so 231 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,120 And then the massacre in L .A. happened. 232 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:15,940 Jack's first response was, I want to write a piece. I want to write a story 233 00:16:15,940 --> 00:16:17,340 about who these people are. 234 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,380 These are America's children. 235 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,020 Jim Kilgore and Kathy Salaya were a couple at the time. And they came to him 236 00:16:28,020 --> 00:16:31,900 said, we think we have some people that you might be interested in meeting. 237 00:16:33,930 --> 00:16:39,570 So Jack comes out to Berkeley, and they blindfolded him and drove him around for 238 00:16:39,570 --> 00:16:40,570 a while. 239 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:45,710 And then they ended up in this apartment up in North Berkeley. 240 00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:52,270 They took the blindfold off, and he was sitting there with three very wanted 241 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:56,490 people, lots of ammunition, and not much else. 242 00:16:57,650 --> 00:17:00,510 And he, you know, he breaks into a huge grin. 243 00:17:01,340 --> 00:17:05,599 His first response was, I really would like to tell your story. 244 00:17:05,819 --> 00:17:08,900 And they said, that's not going to do us any good. We have to get out of here. 245 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:13,359 Jack sold us on his ability to get us out of the state. He didn't give us the 246 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:17,380 details at the time, but he said he had the resources to do it. That's all we 247 00:17:17,380 --> 00:17:18,380 wanted to hear. 248 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,640 Jack insisted that if we were going to be transported across the country, we 249 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,180 couldn't bring any firearms. 250 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:27,280 I'm not going to put my family at risk. 251 00:17:28,030 --> 00:17:30,830 there will be no guns. And that was a huge argument. 252 00:17:31,530 --> 00:17:36,270 And we struggled over that with him a little bit. We didn't have any real 253 00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:39,470 standing. We were pretty much at his mercy. He was taking care of us, right? 254 00:17:42,990 --> 00:17:45,670 The original plan was just to get us to the East Coast. 255 00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:53,490 Jack's idea was that he would contact his parents who were in the area, and he 256 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:56,290 and Patty could ride with his mom and dad. 257 00:17:56,810 --> 00:17:59,030 as a couple sitting in the back seat. 258 00:18:00,290 --> 00:18:02,330 Jack Scott's father, John, is driving. 259 00:18:02,550 --> 00:18:08,550 Right before the four of them get on the highway, he pulls over to the side of 260 00:18:08,550 --> 00:18:13,110 the road and he says, Patty, listen to me. 261 00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:17,770 I'll take you anywhere you want to go. You don't have to do this. You can just 262 00:18:17,770 --> 00:18:18,770 go home. 263 00:18:18,930 --> 00:18:25,150 And Patty Hearst looks at John Scott and says, get the fuck on the road and 264 00:18:25,150 --> 00:18:26,150 start driving. 265 00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:31,950 So he got back on the freeway and headed east. 266 00:18:35,950 --> 00:18:41,110 A few days later, Jack and Patty show up in New York, and there they were. 267 00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:47,770 I think I probably was a little starstruck. My recollection is that she 268 00:18:47,770 --> 00:18:50,110 serious. She was on a mission. 269 00:18:50,990 --> 00:18:54,850 And she would have me go out and get her coffee in the New York Times every 270 00:18:54,850 --> 00:18:57,950 morning because, of course, she couldn't leave the apartment. And she would be 271 00:18:57,950 --> 00:19:02,510 by herself for that, however long it take me, half an hour. 272 00:19:03,370 --> 00:19:09,910 I'd go out and come back and she would sit in the living room with her pen and 273 00:19:09,910 --> 00:19:12,250 she would circle names in the New York Times. 274 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:17,470 And when I asked her what she was doing, she was adding names to their hit list 275 00:19:17,470 --> 00:19:18,930 or to the SLA hit list. 276 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:25,760 And she didn't appear to be afraid. She was pretty intent on getting back, you 277 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,020 know, on continuing on with the revolution. 278 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:33,680 Jack went back out and got Bill. 279 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:37,600 And another friend of ours had gone out to get Emily. 280 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:45,860 I had found a lovely little farmhouse not very far from where Jack was born 281 00:19:45,860 --> 00:19:46,860 grew up. 282 00:19:46,980 --> 00:19:49,200 They had rented the farmhouse in Pennsylvania. 283 00:19:50,050 --> 00:19:53,250 We're not going to be expected to be in the area of grad and PA. 284 00:19:54,270 --> 00:19:57,090 None of us have a connection to it. 285 00:19:57,310 --> 00:19:58,330 It's a good choice. 286 00:19:58,570 --> 00:20:00,570 It was big enough to not have neighbors around. 287 00:20:02,650 --> 00:20:04,770 We cooked together. We ate together. 288 00:20:05,010 --> 00:20:06,090 We had conversations. 289 00:20:07,570 --> 00:20:11,910 We recovered from the stress of being on the run like we were. 290 00:20:13,010 --> 00:20:18,270 We had a lot of space to roam around in. Here we could go off and be by 291 00:20:18,270 --> 00:20:19,270 ourselves. 292 00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:25,950 They were traumatized, I think. I mean, they had watched their friends and 293 00:20:25,950 --> 00:20:29,110 comrades be murdered live on television. 294 00:20:30,810 --> 00:20:37,710 From my perspective, to take a risk to save lives is a risk worth 295 00:20:37,710 --> 00:20:41,850 taking. I can't imagine how I would feel if I didn't do it. 296 00:20:43,730 --> 00:20:49,310 Jack had helped Wendy Yoshimura leave the Bay Area when she was wanted. He 297 00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:50,890 her to come live with us for a while. 298 00:20:51,490 --> 00:20:54,150 She hit it off with Patty from the beginning. 299 00:20:55,610 --> 00:21:01,410 In 1974, I was working in San Francisco PD cases where somebody had fled across 300 00:21:01,410 --> 00:21:02,410 the state line. 301 00:21:02,730 --> 00:21:07,470 Wendy Yoshimura, her boyfriend, had a guy by the name of Willie Brandt who had 302 00:21:07,470 --> 00:21:11,610 been arrested and convicted of a bombing in Alameda County. 303 00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:16,720 She was being charged as an accomplice. And so she took off. 304 00:21:17,100 --> 00:21:23,420 When I was assigned the Wendy Yoshimura case, we had no information that 305 00:21:23,420 --> 00:21:30,340 she was associated with the Hearst investigation until we got a teletype 306 00:21:30,340 --> 00:21:33,680 lead in from New Jersey where Wendy might be located. 307 00:21:38,410 --> 00:21:41,890 At some point in there, Jack's talking about a book and making it clear that, 308 00:21:41,890 --> 00:21:46,330 you know, the money that's supporting us is going to soon run out and maybe this 309 00:21:46,330 --> 00:21:49,390 will be a way to get some resources at some point. 310 00:21:50,110 --> 00:21:53,710 Jack, he was like a bulldog, you know, when he had an idea of how something 311 00:21:53,710 --> 00:21:54,710 would be, should be. 312 00:21:55,410 --> 00:22:00,210 He could be like, he wouldn't let go of it. It was really not about making 313 00:22:00,210 --> 00:22:06,250 money. It was about getting the story out, trying to get people to understand. 314 00:22:06,810 --> 00:22:10,190 why they were doing what they were doing. He knew that this was probably an 315 00:22:10,190 --> 00:22:15,990 interesting book. Why would middle -class, educated white people pick up 316 00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:20,970 and wage revolution against the government in ways that would probably 317 00:22:20,970 --> 00:22:23,650 killed? What would motivate them to do such a crazy thing? 318 00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:29,390 We had a friend. He came to the farmhouse. He was doing tapes towards 319 00:22:29,390 --> 00:22:33,230 this book. We took turns transcribing the tapes. 320 00:22:35,050 --> 00:22:36,090 Patty Hearst writing. 321 00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:43,370 her revolutionary statement. She did a lengthy document where she talked about 322 00:22:43,370 --> 00:22:48,130 her life and how she felt about her parents and Willy Wolf. 323 00:22:48,890 --> 00:22:55,530 She is, as in her own words, a radical, a revolutionary feminist, someone who 324 00:22:55,530 --> 00:22:57,710 believes in world revolution. 325 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,640 I started to feel that this was never going to be beneficial to us. And in the 326 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,200 end, I didn't like what we created. 327 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,960 It just sounded hokey. 328 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,040 And we wouldn't give him the manuscript. 329 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,840 We destroyed the tapes. 330 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,360 And that really pissed Jack off. 331 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880 I think there was a lot of conflict around that. 332 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:26,540 Jack Scott, who's a real journalist, starts to recognize that there's no book 333 00:23:26,540 --> 00:23:28,880 coming out of this. And he's stuck now. 334 00:23:29,370 --> 00:23:32,350 with these fugitives in his farmhouse. 335 00:23:34,510 --> 00:23:38,730 I know there was a single moment when Jack said, I'm done, and left, and 336 00:23:38,730 --> 00:23:40,010 wouldn't go back to the farmhouse. 337 00:23:40,270 --> 00:23:42,990 I think Jack was a little bit afraid of us anyway. 338 00:23:43,230 --> 00:23:45,670 The fact of the matter is we had a falling out and we had to leave. 339 00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:51,810 And I was like, okay, and that was it. 340 00:23:52,290 --> 00:23:54,430 The group has to figure out where to go. 341 00:23:55,270 --> 00:23:57,950 And they reached back out to Kathy Solia. 342 00:23:58,419 --> 00:24:01,320 And we were like, going back to California is just crazy. 343 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,840 But they were adamant that that's where their army was and that's where they had 344 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,840 to go. 345 00:24:06,140 --> 00:24:10,840 He had agreed to take Patty as far as Las Vegas, but he said, I'm not taking 346 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:11,539 into California. 347 00:24:11,540 --> 00:24:15,220 That's insane. And Bill and Emily, you're on your own figuring out how to 348 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:16,220 back. 349 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Jack and Patty were in the van and Jack got pulled over and she was disguised as 350 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,960 a pregnant woman. 351 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,900 At one point in their travels, Jack Scott and Patty Hearst were stopped for 352 00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:31,820 speeding by an Iowa State trooper. 353 00:24:32,740 --> 00:24:36,800 She could say, oh, by the way, officer, I'm Patty Hearst. Take me in. I want to 354 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840 surrender. And Patty Hearst says nothing. 355 00:24:39,500 --> 00:24:43,400 Scott quickly jumped out of his van and started gabbing with the trooper about 356 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,320 Iowa's upset football victory that day over UCLA. 357 00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:51,180 The report says the trooper smiled, put away his ticket book, and drove off 358 00:24:51,180 --> 00:24:53,160 without ever seeing Miss Hearst in the van. 359 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,900 Jack Scott drives Patty Hearst to Las Vegas. 360 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,480 And he leaves her in a motel there. And for two days, she is on her own. 361 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,280 She could surrender. She could leave. 362 00:25:10,540 --> 00:25:13,560 But instead, she waits for one of the team. 363 00:25:14,740 --> 00:25:21,100 In this case, Jim Kilgore takes her from Las Vegas to Sacramento. 364 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:25,820 Emily and I took a train all the way across to go to Sacramento. 365 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,520 The comrades who were going to help us get set up, they decided Sacramento was 366 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,140 reasonable location that they probably wouldn't look for us there. In 367 00:25:34,140 --> 00:25:36,800 Sacramento, there's a new cast of characters. 368 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:43,500 Wendy Yoshimura, Kathy Solia, Steve Solia, Josephine Solia, Jim Kilgore, and 369 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:49,380 Mike Borden, a very excitable member of the group, joins them in Sacramento. 370 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,100 Mike Borden is a little bit of a wild man. 371 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,060 First time I met Mike. 372 00:25:55,500 --> 00:25:59,240 He talked about wanting to do an operation while on LSD. 373 00:26:01,140 --> 00:26:05,600 I had nothing to do with Patty Hearst being kidnapped, although it may be one 374 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,940 the few things I wouldn't mind taking credit for. 375 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,380 I didn't meet Patty Hearst until the three of them came back from 376 00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:17,220 hiding out in the country. 377 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,520 She had a pretty vivacious personality. 378 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,920 She used to call Bill Little Hitler. 379 00:26:25,380 --> 00:26:27,940 That tells you a lot right there. 380 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,700 Mike and I butted heads. 381 00:26:29,980 --> 00:26:34,120 You know, we never got in... I think we had a good shoving match one time. 382 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,860 Now that I think about it. We were just hiding them out. 383 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:44,100 We didn't agree with their philosophy, but they were being hunted like animals. 384 00:26:45,580 --> 00:26:50,140 Kathy, she got Jim Kilgore and... 385 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,000 Steve involved. 386 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,540 Steve Sully is Kathy Sully's younger brother. 387 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,180 He even wasn't radical per se. He was a progressive -minded person. He was a 388 00:27:02,180 --> 00:27:03,400 pretty low -key, easy -going guy. 389 00:27:04,580 --> 00:27:08,400 Patty Hearst and Steve Sully develop a relationship. 390 00:27:08,740 --> 00:27:11,440 And they wind up living together for quite some time. 391 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:12,800 They fall in love. 392 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:18,920 And it's just an illustration of how she has become part of the group. 393 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:28,780 We took this lawyer up to meet them because hopefully we're going to try to 394 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:29,780 him to Cuba. 395 00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:35,460 So right in the middle of it, Patty says, I'll see you guys later. I'm going 396 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:37,480 go get some stuff at the store. 397 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:43,080 And he's like, he's like in shock. Like, I thought she was brainwashed. I 398 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,580 thought she was kidnapped. You know, like, what the fuck? 399 00:27:46,420 --> 00:27:48,720 She was superhero. 400 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,280 You know, I mean, you can't help it. I mean. 401 00:27:52,090 --> 00:27:57,570 This little tiny girl with the big machine gun and giving up all that 402 00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:02,270 I mean, what can you say? How many people have been in that situation, you 403 00:28:02,330 --> 00:28:04,390 How can you not love someone like that? 404 00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:08,090 There was this one day in the park. 405 00:28:08,510 --> 00:28:14,750 She's sitting up there, clearly a mixture of different emotions. That's 406 00:28:14,750 --> 00:28:15,890 makes it so interesting. 407 00:28:16,150 --> 00:28:20,070 She says, well, you know, sometimes I wish someone would just... 408 00:28:20,950 --> 00:28:24,990 snatch me again, take me to New York or something, get out of this shit. 409 00:28:31,030 --> 00:28:35,930 Since I cannot mail you a letter, Patty, I'm reading this over the air and 410 00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:38,110 hoping and praying that it will reach you. 411 00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:45,710 My darling Patty, Christmas is almost upon us again, and I'm sure you must 412 00:28:45,710 --> 00:28:51,600 realize... our agony as we face the possibility of a Christmas without you. 413 00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:57,960 Dad and I find it too painful to continue living here with so many 414 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,080 you and are moving to an apartment in the city in a few months. 415 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:08,140 I spend many hours a day praying that God will inspire you to come back to us, 416 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:13,160 hopefully at Christmas, with all our love, Mother. 417 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,480 The FBI was doing anything they could to attempt to locate these people, and 418 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,800 they were not being successful. 419 00:29:23,740 --> 00:29:25,760 They were living under assumed names. 420 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,200 They were renting multiple apartments under assumed names. 421 00:29:29,460 --> 00:29:34,020 They were making it almost impossible for us to find them. These people really 422 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:35,040 knew what they were doing. 423 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:43,240 What had happened was we had developed information that Wendy Yoshimura's 424 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:49,320 fingerprints had been found in Honesdale, Pennsylvania, in a farmhouse. 425 00:29:49,860 --> 00:29:55,200 And we'd received the information from a gentleman by the name of Walter Scott. 426 00:29:56,020 --> 00:29:58,680 Jack's brother was a very troubled man. 427 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:05,020 And he was drunk and went into the FBI office and said, hey. 428 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,720 I think Patty Harris was in this farmhouse. 429 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,300 We wiped down the entire house. 430 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:19,160 Every surface got cleaned with bleach and cleaners. 431 00:30:19,540 --> 00:30:24,360 They ended up finding inside of a mattress a piece of newspaper that had 432 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,600 fingerprint on it. 433 00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:31,340 And what really had happened was, one night when we were still there, she woke 434 00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:33,300 up in the middle of the night and... 435 00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:38,790 There's a big spider on her bed and she freaked out and she tore up the bedroom 436 00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:42,050 looking for the damn spider again. Got us all in there looking. We're all 437 00:30:42,050 --> 00:30:43,930 looking for a spider. Nobody can find a spider. 438 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:48,390 She picks up the mattress and underneath the mattress she sees there's a little 439 00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:50,690 quarter -sized hole in the bottom of the mattress. 440 00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:55,510 She figures that the only possible place the spider could have disappeared to is 441 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:57,450 inside that hole underneath the mattress. 442 00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:01,210 And so she wadded up a piece of newspaper and pushed it up inside. 443 00:31:03,310 --> 00:31:06,430 So that was pretty thorough. I thought that was pretty good. I gave him a point 444 00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:07,430 for that one. 445 00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:12,130 That tied the Hearst case to Wendy. 446 00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:15,750 And that's when the case was assigned to me. 447 00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:22,190 This case is wound down from being the number one priority case in the FBI. 448 00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:25,990 So it's gone from hundreds of agents and we're down now to four. 449 00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:34,430 They know Wendy Yoshimura is the ex - girlfriend of a bomber who is in 450 00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:39,750 prison named Willie Brandt. And they see that she has visited Willie Brandt in 451 00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:46,590 prison. They also see that some of the soleus have visited Willie Brandt in 452 00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:47,590 prison. 453 00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:54,290 And it's through this that the FBI begins to identify the cell, the group 454 00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:57,350 is now sheltering Patty Hearst in Sacramento. 455 00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:02,520 Jack and Mickey Scott had been underground. They stayed underground, 456 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520 they decided to become public. 457 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,780 They said they would not cooperate with the FBI trying to find the SLA. 458 00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:15,700 So the FBI couldn't get any information because nobody would talk to the FBI. 459 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:21,680 For me, it was relatively easy to find these people and talk to them, and they 460 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,680 would all talk to me. 461 00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:26,190 All I'd have to say is I'm writing for Rolling Stone. 462 00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:28,350 It really wasn't very difficult to get sources. 463 00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:32,090 Everyone wanted to be in Rolling Stone one way or the other. 464 00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:35,510 And I think we had 33 sources by the time we published. 465 00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:37,550 No, we know that most of that came from Jack. 466 00:32:37,910 --> 00:32:43,150 He'd like given information that made it available to the FBI about intimate 467 00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:46,750 details of his harboring us without claiming that it was him. 468 00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:48,570 Jack Scott was the primary source. 469 00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:52,430 Jack sat down with Howard and me and started telling us everything he knew. 470 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,340 And it seemed like it was his way of getting back at us for us not letting 471 00:32:57,340 --> 00:32:58,640 have the materials, right? 472 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,220 The FBI called us up and said, give me part two before you publish or we're 473 00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:06,440 going to cut you off at the knee. 474 00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:12,280 After we hid out, our lawyer got in touch with Randolph Hurst and set up 475 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,300 dinner at his house. 476 00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:18,360 He was totally accepting of her having joined the group. 477 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,100 He said she's been a rebel her whole life. 478 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,320 And it didn't surprise him. 479 00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:29,920 And I said, you know, she was upset about her mother accepting the 480 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,820 to the Board of Regents when she was a kidnap victim. And he said, yeah, I 481 00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:36,540 didn't know she was going to do that. 482 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,480 He said, that really made me angry. He said, I'm going to get rid of the 483 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,480 when this is over. 484 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,780 He came across as a father who was really distressed about his daughter. 485 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,100 Do you think anything can be done to help her to surface? 486 00:33:55,060 --> 00:33:59,400 No, I think if she services, she'll surface because she wants to come back. 487 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400 I hope she does. I hope she comes back that way. 488 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,780 It seemed with all the fanfare and all the support for Patty Hearst that there 489 00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:13,679 would be money flowing in, but it didn't happen, not in the slightest. 490 00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:18,020 The only cash we had was what I got from painting. 491 00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:21,949 houses down there while they were plotting. 492 00:34:22,350 --> 00:34:23,770 It was a tough existence. 493 00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:30,949 So we started having discussions about expropriation again. 494 00:34:32,449 --> 00:34:36,130 Really, no one wanted to be involved in crime. 495 00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:38,889 They wanted to be involved in political activities. 496 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:43,929 And all of a sudden, everything being done is criminal shit. 497 00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:46,550 We needed a bank without... 498 00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:48,460 Electronic security systems. 499 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,760 The Crocker National Bank in Carmichael, California, was selected. 500 00:34:55,159 --> 00:35:01,000 People let bravado take over and didn't 501 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:07,820 ask themselves enough, are we ready for something like this? 502 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Do we have the calmness under pressure to do something like this? 503 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,140 And the answer was no. 504 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,860 Yeah, April 21st, 1975. 505 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,540 It was a Monday morning. 506 00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:24,880 I had just turned 15. 507 00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:28,520 I woke up about 4 o 'clock that morning to get my homework done. 508 00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:33,620 And I couldn't find a pen in the house that worked anywhere. 509 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,740 And I was angry with my mom for not having a good supply of pens in the 510 00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:39,740 for me to use. 511 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520 I remember her promising, I'll be sure to pick up more pens. 512 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,180 She was a church clerk. 513 00:35:47,259 --> 00:35:53,100 and one of a group of women that would count the weekend offerings and take 514 00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,760 into the bank every Monday morning. 515 00:35:56,940 --> 00:36:00,180 Crocker National Bank, it had a perfect setup. 516 00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,500 So it was ideal. 517 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,580 And we struggled, if anything, we struggled on who was going to go in. 518 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,700 Everybody wants to go in, maybe, you know what I mean? Everybody wants to be 519 00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,000 one doing this. So then we had a big discussion. 520 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:15,720 Well, naturally, I should be leader because I was cool as a cucumber, 521 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,460 No, we have to have the woman doing it. We have to make a statement and all 522 00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:21,480 that. Fuck that. 523 00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,520 Emily's never been in a bank before. 524 00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:26,320 In the end, we decided two men and two women would go in. 525 00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:29,280 Jim, Mike, Emily, and Kathleen. 526 00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:33,220 Steve and I would be in a backup car. 527 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,740 Patty was in a third car with Wendy. 528 00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:44,990 My day started on April 21st, 1975, just like any other day. When the bank 529 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:48,910 opened at 10 o 'clock, we opened up the doors. I went back to my counter. 530 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:54,050 In fact, I believe one of the SLA members held the door open for my mom 531 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:58,130 other two women to go in ahead of them. And so there's three of them, and she 532 00:36:58,130 --> 00:37:02,870 was carrying this big, heavy, old -style calculator. 533 00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:07,950 Next thing you know, they're screaming at the back door. 534 00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:13,650 My mom had this big adding machine in her hands and wanted to set it down on 535 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:19,790 counter. Emily, she had taken the safety off of her shotgun and it discharged. 536 00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:27,130 That split second of an instant, Mrs. Opsowell shot with a 12 -gauge shotgun 537 00:37:27,130 --> 00:37:29,850 from about six or seven feet from me. 538 00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:32,290 And Emily was so nervous. 539 00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:35,210 That's why she did it. She was so fucking nervous. 540 00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:42,390 People were screaming, yelling, cussing at us, pistol -whipping people, jumping 541 00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:43,390 over counters, 542 00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:46,010 cocking shotguns at the back of our head. 543 00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:50,390 You motherfuckers better put your heads in the dirt or we're going to blow your 544 00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:51,510 motherfucking heads off. 545 00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:56,610 There was a young woman there that was pregnant that they beat her up and she 546 00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:57,610 lost her baby. 547 00:37:59,930 --> 00:38:05,770 And I remember putting my hand over my mouth so I wouldn't... 548 00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:10,020 subconsciously or otherwise, wouldn't allow any sound to come out. 549 00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:14,660 And then it was over. 550 00:38:17,060 --> 00:38:22,980 I remember going to the kitchen and getting towels to try to pack Mrs. 551 00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:23,980 wounds. 552 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,420 We put the towels on her body. 553 00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:41,120 It just went through her. 554 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,100 And so we knew there was nothing that could be done. We just sat with her 555 00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,100 they came. 556 00:39:00,820 --> 00:39:05,500 And after they took her away, we cleaned up the blood that was left on the 557 00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:06,500 floor. 558 00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:08,920 We couldn't just leave the mess. 559 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,880 And there was nobody there to take care of it but us. 560 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560 The mother of four was killed. 561 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,520 We killed her. 562 00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:26,260 Fuck. 563 00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:28,880 Fuck, fuck, fuck. 564 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,560 My dad actually was a surgeon. 565 00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:41,810 I found out later that he had been one of the doctors that tried to resuscitate 566 00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:46,370 her when they brought her in and was the last to step away. And I think one of 567 00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:53,050 them kind of had to insist that he stop because he 568 00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:54,050 wouldn't on his own. 569 00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:56,370 Couldn't imagine having to do that. 570 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,760 For the first few days after my mom was murdered and up until the funeral, 571 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,380 things were really in a fog. It was just in a state of shock. 572 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480 Patty was driving the getaway car. 573 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:31,080 And according to the felony murder roll, anybody who is a participant in a 574 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,060 felony and there is a murder, they're also... 575 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,780 responsible for that murder. 576 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,820 From April 21st, 1975, we've all lived with the death of Myrna Hobson. 577 00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:46,520 It being an accident doesn't change anything. 578 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,340 It didn't change anything about what I was doing. It didn't alter my path. 579 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,240 It didn't do that for any of us. 580 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,820 It made us all amazingly introspective, but we came to the same conclusion. We 581 00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:11,820 had to carry on. 582 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,760 Like many 19 -year -olds, she's open to the sense of adventure. 583 00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,460 Not skiing in Switzerland. 584 00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:30,980 This is not skiing in Switzerland. 585 00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:36,360 56 days in the closet turned her into an urban gorilla. 586 00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:42,700 Patty Hearst places a bomb under a police car. We were clearly outgunned. 587 00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:43,940 knew we were in for a fight. 588 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120 Said, I'm going to kill her if you don't come back. Did the daughter of an 589 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,420 American millionaire turn revolutionary? 590 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,140 And if so, why? 591 00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:54,200 It may be called the trial of the century. 54625

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