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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:07,630 --> 00:00:09,210 and said, where's Patty, where's Patty? 2 00:00:09,430 --> 00:00:10,430 They said they took her. 3 00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:13,190 Mom, Dad, I'm okay. 4 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:17,270 We want to see how far we can motivate them to do what we want. 5 00:00:17,550 --> 00:00:19,650 Do what they say, Dad, and just do it quickly. 6 00:00:19,890 --> 00:00:22,630 In this case, it became a media frenzy. 7 00:00:23,150 --> 00:00:27,430 Hearst was truly afraid that his daughter was going to get killed. They 8 00:00:27,430 --> 00:00:29,090 interested in re -educating me. 9 00:00:29,370 --> 00:00:33,070 She desperately did not want to go home. You want to do this, you're probably 10 00:00:33,070 --> 00:00:34,070 going to die. 11 00:00:34,550 --> 00:00:36,410 I've chosen to stay and fight. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,440 It completely changed everything. 13 00:00:41,980 --> 00:00:46,980 The granddaughter of William Randolph Peirce was abducted by two men and a 14 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:48,460 in a bizarre kidnapping. 15 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:53,600 No ransom note, no phone calls, no word, nothing. 16 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:58,360 The SLA is the people's army and we fight in their interest. 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:05,200 The FBI said the girl on the wave with the automatic rifle was Patricia Hurst. 18 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,660 Rich college girl turned armed terrorist in a matter of weeks. 19 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:14,000 Southern California's largest manhunt continues. 20 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:17,100 For someone my age, I've been through an awful lot. 21 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:19,740 We don't know where she is. 22 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,540 Mom, Dad, I'm okay. 23 00:01:32,650 --> 00:01:36,750 Regardless of whether Patricia Hearst meant what she said or was forced to say 24 00:01:36,750 --> 00:01:40,870 it, there does seem to have been a profound change in her since the 25 00:01:41,230 --> 00:01:45,530 Watching talking heads report on this, they were stunned. 26 00:01:46,010 --> 00:01:50,390 Was she forced to say it? Or as Patricia Hearst has hinted in previous messages, 27 00:01:50,610 --> 00:01:54,670 has she begun to be converted by the revolutionary education her kidnappers 28 00:01:54,670 --> 00:01:56,150 been giving her all these weeks? 29 00:01:56,490 --> 00:01:57,630 Propaganda effect was... 30 00:01:59,150 --> 00:02:02,350 It was almost hilarious, you know what I mean? It was amazing. 31 00:02:02,690 --> 00:02:03,690 No one expected that. 32 00:02:03,990 --> 00:02:09,030 We've had her 20 years. They've had her 60 days. 33 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:14,370 And I don't believe that she's going to change her philosophy that quickly. 34 00:02:14,830 --> 00:02:18,910 It was a novel that was being told every day. 35 00:02:19,110 --> 00:02:25,630 Part of it was a ragtag group of radicals and someone from American 36 00:02:25,630 --> 00:02:27,250 nobility. It was... 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,480 poverty, which they were showing, and great wealth. 38 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:36,580 It was also about young people fighting against the establishment. It was an 39 00:02:36,580 --> 00:02:40,080 ongoing drama, and it was unresolved. 40 00:02:40,820 --> 00:02:46,920 The story of the SLA, especially the beginning, is tactical victories, 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:53,660 strategic incoherence. Because they successfully kidnapped Patty Hearst. 42 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:54,800 They successfully 43 00:02:55,790 --> 00:03:01,750 organize the food delivery they successfully recruit her to be one of 44 00:03:01,750 --> 00:03:05,850 those are all real victories but to what end 45 00:03:05,850 --> 00:03:12,730 we've already stunned everybody by her claiming that you know 46 00:03:12,730 --> 00:03:17,910 now she's on our side we had to prove that thinking about it now we were broke 47 00:03:17,910 --> 00:03:23,170 we didn't have any money we were down to the nubs Now we had another mouth to 48 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:27,490 feed forever. We had to plan some type of an expropriation. We decided we'd 49 00:03:27,490 --> 00:03:31,410 it all into one, and we would find a bank with video cameras recording 50 00:03:31,410 --> 00:03:32,410 everything. 51 00:03:32,670 --> 00:03:39,190 Back then, video security systems were new, so we found a bank that had video 52 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:40,190 cameras. 53 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:41,410 Hibernia Bank. 54 00:03:41,590 --> 00:03:42,690 It was nerve -wracking. 55 00:03:44,070 --> 00:03:48,150 I wish we didn't have to rob banks. I would rather not rob banks. It was not 56 00:03:48,150 --> 00:03:49,150 that much fun. 57 00:03:50,670 --> 00:03:51,750 But it was necessary. 58 00:03:53,290 --> 00:03:58,490 And Patricia wanted this too. She insisted on being in the assault team. 59 00:03:58,490 --> 00:04:01,410 means that's the crew that's going in the bank doing the actual robbery. 60 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:10,490 She was carrying an M1 carbine that was not adapted for fully automatic fire. 61 00:04:11,030 --> 00:04:14,430 She was trained enough in it to be able to use it effectively. 62 00:04:21,450 --> 00:04:25,530 Me, Emily, and Willie, we were situated across the street in case anything went 63 00:04:25,530 --> 00:04:27,370 down that we had to respond to. 64 00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:29,290 Most of the comrades were in the bank. 65 00:04:29,830 --> 00:04:32,150 St. Q disarmed the security guard. 66 00:04:32,770 --> 00:04:37,010 Ms. Moon hit the tills. Everybody else was just making sure everybody kept 67 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:37,889 heads down. 68 00:04:37,890 --> 00:04:40,010 Hattie was front and center. 69 00:04:42,170 --> 00:04:45,550 It looked like she was ready to shoot. She was ready to shoot anything that got 70 00:04:45,550 --> 00:04:46,550 in the way or moved. 71 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:49,330 She just said that anybody that put their head up, they would... 72 00:04:49,610 --> 00:04:53,230 If they had blown off... She said that herself? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did you get the 73 00:04:53,230 --> 00:04:55,750 impression that she would have used that gun? Absolutely. 74 00:04:57,490 --> 00:05:00,590 Who would have thought that Patricia Hearst, a few months after she was 75 00:05:00,590 --> 00:05:04,930 kidnapped, would be robbing a bank as a revolutionary act? 76 00:05:06,890 --> 00:05:11,490 That bank robbery surveillance photograph was pretty indicative of what 77 00:05:11,490 --> 00:05:15,350 happened, and that was that Patty Hearst had participated in an armed bank 78 00:05:15,350 --> 00:05:17,290 robbery of the Hibernia Bank. 79 00:05:17,770 --> 00:05:24,570 At that moment, this one -line story about an heiress who'd been 80 00:05:24,570 --> 00:05:30,390 kidnapped by crazy revolutionaries from the 60s changed in the blink of an eye 81 00:05:30,390 --> 00:05:35,830 with that photo of Patty with a gun in that bank. 82 00:05:37,190 --> 00:05:41,210 There was initially, in those first couple of days, some debate. She must 83 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:42,210 been forced to do it. 84 00:05:42,590 --> 00:05:46,710 Seeing Patty in the bank with a gun, if it cemented anything, it was just... 85 00:05:46,840 --> 00:05:53,800 She's being disgraced and manipulated and coerced in a theatrical, cruel way. 86 00:05:55,200 --> 00:06:01,400 Patricia's performance in that bank robbery only solidified what we already 87 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,860 suspected about her. 88 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:07,340 Somewhat of a revolutionary savant. We kidnapped a freak. 89 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:11,240 People freeze in certain situations. 90 00:06:12,140 --> 00:06:15,360 Patricia Harris is not the kind of person that freezes ever. 91 00:06:15,740 --> 00:06:16,780 I think she was spectacular. 92 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,620 And I think it was obvious. It was obvious to DeVries. 93 00:06:20,860 --> 00:06:27,580 Everybody had a sidearm, and her performing admirably in a bank robbery 94 00:06:27,580 --> 00:06:32,040 the gun that was originally the sidearm of the security guard at the Ibernia 95 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,420 Bank. Now she has a sidearm as well. 96 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,260 Patricia was a 100 % equal member in this cell. She had the same 97 00:06:40,260 --> 00:06:43,560 responsibilities we did. We weren't making her do anything against her will. 98 00:06:45,070 --> 00:06:47,710 At that point, it was against her will to go home. 99 00:06:49,590 --> 00:06:54,050 She is still a kidnapped victim. She was taken away against her will. 100 00:06:54,650 --> 00:07:00,490 And psychologically, she's a victim of thought control by terrorists. 101 00:07:01,270 --> 00:07:06,430 And all I can do is hope and pray that God will bring her home again. 102 00:07:07,870 --> 00:07:14,460 After observing her mother, Catherine, suggest that she had been a subject or 103 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:15,480 victim of mind control. 104 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:21,100 She was offended by it because it was another conflict between her and her 105 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,840 and she wanted to prove her wrong. 106 00:07:26,420 --> 00:07:27,760 Greetings to the people. 107 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:29,280 This is Tanya. 108 00:07:30,220 --> 00:07:36,840 On April 15th, my comrades and I expropriated $10 ,660 109 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:41,020 .02 from the Sunset Branch of the Hibernia Bank. 110 00:07:41,820 --> 00:07:46,160 I was positioned so that I could hold customers and bank personnel who were on 111 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,099 the floor. 112 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:52,140 My gun was loaded, and at no time did any of my comrades intentionally point 113 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:53,240 their guns at me. 114 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:58,960 As for being brainwashed, the idea is ridiculous to the point of being beyond 115 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,960 belief. 116 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:05,700 For those people who still believe that I am brainwashed or dead, I see no 117 00:08:05,700 --> 00:08:07,660 reason to further defend my position. 118 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,000 I am a soldier in the people's army. 119 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:13,420 The 120 00:08:13,420 --> 00:08:24,220 Patty 121 00:08:24,220 --> 00:08:29,220 Hearst story was a huge national story from the day of the kidnapping. 122 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:36,400 But what made it even bigger was that Patty Hearst turned her back on 123 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,200 her life of privilege. 124 00:08:38,500 --> 00:08:42,640 And she became a metaphor for young people in America everywhere. 125 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:50,000 People given opportunities, given the promise of America, and deciding instead 126 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,480 to turn against it and even overthrow it. 127 00:08:53,940 --> 00:08:59,220 There were posters. People supported her, not just in Berkeley, but 128 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:03,640 So there was sort of a romance about it. 129 00:09:05,070 --> 00:09:06,630 took on a life of its own. 130 00:09:07,830 --> 00:09:14,650 As embarrassing as the situation was to the FBI after the kidnapping, it was 131 00:09:14,650 --> 00:09:18,010 much worse after the robbery of the Hibernia Bank. 132 00:09:18,370 --> 00:09:23,370 Because here you had a half dozen people showing off for the cameras in broad 133 00:09:23,370 --> 00:09:24,370 daylight. 134 00:09:25,270 --> 00:09:29,150 We've just almost turned that area upside down. 135 00:09:31,170 --> 00:09:33,270 I'm going to make an admission, which hurts. 136 00:09:34,830 --> 00:09:36,330 We don't know where she is. 137 00:09:38,970 --> 00:09:40,290 The robbery was successful. 138 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:44,890 We're happy that we got some money, but it was a subdued scene in many ways. 139 00:09:45,390 --> 00:09:48,810 With few resources, we had to figure out what we were going to do next. We 140 00:09:48,810 --> 00:09:52,890 couldn't just sustain this for very long if we had to rob banks all the time to 141 00:09:52,890 --> 00:09:53,890 live. 142 00:09:54,170 --> 00:10:00,070 We had the police in every jurisdiction in the Bay Area wanting to be the ones 143 00:10:00,070 --> 00:10:01,350 that caught us or killed us. 144 00:10:02,190 --> 00:10:05,890 Police were mobilized not only to deal with us, but they were dealing with 145 00:10:05,890 --> 00:10:11,470 zebra killers, you know. The zebra killings were some of the most notorious 146 00:10:11,470 --> 00:10:13,330 crimes in American history. 147 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:20,030 You had a group of black Muslims, and they grabbed people off the street 148 00:10:20,030 --> 00:10:26,210 and not only murdered them, but tortured some of them solely because they were 149 00:10:26,210 --> 00:10:30,970 white. All of this was going on while the kidnapping was happening. 150 00:10:31,550 --> 00:10:35,970 putting San Francisco in something close to complete panic. 151 00:10:36,390 --> 00:10:40,890 The shootings began last night around 7 .30 in the Haight -Ashbury district. By 152 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:44,110 10 p .m., four persons lay dead, all white. 153 00:10:44,690 --> 00:10:50,270 Cops were doing stop and frisk, and so black males walking down the street, and 154 00:10:50,270 --> 00:10:54,010 if a cop rolled by, they'd stop them and put them on the wall and frisk them to 155 00:10:54,010 --> 00:10:55,370 make sure they didn't have weapons or whatever. 156 00:10:56,050 --> 00:10:59,290 The freaks couldn't go outside at all with this kind of a situation. 157 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,140 The pigs and the fascist media, had by their slick trickery, attempted to link 158 00:11:06,140 --> 00:11:08,880 the SLA with the so -called zebra killings. 159 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:14,160 The next lie that we expect to hear is that Sin Q is the zebra killer, and this 160 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,740 will be to give even greater pig justification to continue the harassment 161 00:11:18,740 --> 00:11:19,880 disarming of the people. 162 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:23,840 We realized that we just had to get the hell out of there. That was not a cool 163 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:24,799 place to be. 164 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Patricia was encouraged. 165 00:11:27,130 --> 00:11:31,310 to reconsider going home. Now, she'd already robbed a bank and burned a 166 00:11:31,310 --> 00:11:35,750 of bridges with that. It wasn't impossible for her to wiggle out of that 167 00:11:35,930 --> 00:11:37,190 You might survive it. 168 00:11:38,030 --> 00:11:40,850 It might be better for us to not have you with us. 169 00:11:41,550 --> 00:11:42,930 She hated that idea. 170 00:11:43,510 --> 00:11:46,790 We couldn't go on living as nine people in a cell. 171 00:11:47,010 --> 00:11:50,150 The only way to really do it was to do it in groups of threes. 172 00:11:50,490 --> 00:11:54,470 I'd hoped it would be me, Emily, and Angela that could do this together, but 173 00:11:54,470 --> 00:11:55,470 didn't work out. 174 00:11:55,980 --> 00:11:58,360 In the end, Emily and I got stuck with Patricia. 175 00:11:59,300 --> 00:12:05,660 And so I think it was DeFreeze, Angela, and Camilla, and Nancy, 176 00:12:05,860 --> 00:12:07,640 Willie, and Ms. Moon. 177 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:10,240 So we went to L .A. 178 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:13,900 DeFreeze was familiar with it. He lived there. None of the rest of us had ever 179 00:12:13,900 --> 00:12:14,900 lived there. 180 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:22,320 Acting on a tip, the FBI raided an apartment in San Francisco and once 181 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,320 found itself a few steps behind the SLA. 182 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:29,890 Inside, authorities found the keys to one of the getaway cars used in a recent 183 00:12:29,890 --> 00:12:33,670 bank robbery and the clothes supposedly worn in the same holdup. 184 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:37,090 According to the apartment manager, the group moved out a week ago. 185 00:12:43,010 --> 00:12:47,070 When we went to L .A., we only had time to get in one place so that we could 186 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:50,930 regroup and then move out to our other parts of the country. 187 00:12:51,150 --> 00:12:53,370 Ms. Moon and Nancy were able to snag a house. 188 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,640 on 84th Street in the ghetto, which is really ridiculous. 189 00:12:57,020 --> 00:13:01,700 It was like six women and one black guy and two white guys, and it just looked 190 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:02,700 like peculiar. 191 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,460 We decided that we would send one of the teams, and it was decided it would be 192 00:13:07,460 --> 00:13:11,540 me, Emily, and Hurst, and get some gear that we needed before we all split up. 193 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:16,120 And it just so happened that one of the vans got an illegal parking ticket. 194 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,340 We took the ticket with us to pay. 195 00:13:20,089 --> 00:13:24,730 Patricia and Emily and I had all of our weapons, all of our ammo. 196 00:13:25,610 --> 00:13:29,530 In case something happened while we were gone, we had everything that we needed. 197 00:13:32,830 --> 00:13:37,950 One of the places that we went to get some supplies was a male sporting goods 198 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:38,950 store in Englewood. 199 00:13:38,970 --> 00:13:43,390 And the plan was that Patricia, she would remain in the van. The keys to the 200 00:13:43,390 --> 00:13:44,390 were in the ignition. 201 00:13:45,470 --> 00:13:48,690 She was under no special controls, and we trusted her. 202 00:13:52,620 --> 00:13:56,120 Emily and I go in the store. We grab a bunch of stuff that we're going to 203 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,120 purchase. 204 00:13:59,220 --> 00:14:02,640 If she had wanted to leave, she could have managed that easily. 205 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:06,540 She could have escaped if she'd wanted to. 206 00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:08,680 So what happened was this. 207 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:13,600 At one point, I saw a shotgun bandolier. 208 00:14:14,100 --> 00:14:18,820 And Emily's weapon of choice is a 12 -gauge shotgun, and the shotgun would 209 00:14:18,860 --> 00:14:20,240 like, five or six rounds. 210 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:26,310 So I thought it would be a good idea to get her this shotgun bandolier where she 211 00:14:26,310 --> 00:14:27,710 could hold about 25 rounds. 212 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:30,790 And then all of a sudden, I got paranoid. 213 00:14:31,230 --> 00:14:35,490 I was nervous about buying the bandoliers, you know, the combat 214 00:14:35,490 --> 00:14:38,570 so I was nervous about buying it. And I set it back down. 215 00:14:38,970 --> 00:14:42,570 Everything's smooth, and we're getting ready to leave. We pay $30, $40. 216 00:14:43,330 --> 00:14:48,070 And as I'm walking out the door, this young black guy comes up behind me. He 217 00:14:48,070 --> 00:14:49,070 yells, hey, Bill. 218 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,580 And I believe to my very fibers he's referring to me. 219 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,780 And, you know, my heart starts racing. I turn around. 220 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,520 He says, sir, I need you to come back inside. 221 00:15:00,940 --> 00:15:02,280 I need to search you. 222 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:07,680 Turns out his boss is a guy named Bill Hewitt, I think. And so he's calling his 223 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,500 boss to back him up. He saw me with the bandolier, and he didn't see me put the 224 00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:16,080 bandolier back on the shelf. I ain't going back in the store. No fucking way. 225 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:23,540 This guy Bill Hewitt and the black kid, they jump on me and we're rolling in the 226 00:15:23,540 --> 00:15:24,540 gutter. 227 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,560 And before I know it, I have one handcuff on my left wrist. 228 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:30,860 Patricia looks up. 229 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,720 I figured, you know, she's going to lay low. There's nothing she can do. 230 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:37,880 We're busted. 231 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:43,460 We're on a pile on the street. 232 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:46,160 In the few seconds that I'm resisting. 233 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,060 Patricia looks up. 234 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,240 You know, was she going to run over and rescue us? 235 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:58,020 She's got the keys in the van. I just assumed she'd lay low and then fade and 236 00:15:58,020 --> 00:15:59,020 back to the safe house. 237 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,580 She was decisive. 238 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:09,700 The first rounds hit right next to my head. 239 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,800 I thought I was going to get shot. 240 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,080 He was aiming really close to us. 241 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,020 She didn't hold the barrel steady. 242 00:16:19,620 --> 00:16:23,460 She fired off the rest of the rounds in that magazine, and then she picked up 243 00:16:23,460 --> 00:16:27,980 her weapon and started firing rounds from a 30 -round clip that she had in 244 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:28,980 weapon. 245 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:36,260 The kid is hiding behind me and holding on to me, and I told him, I said, hey, 246 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,160 dude, you better get out of here. He says, right. 247 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:44,140 As soon as he leaves me, Emily and I get up and haul ass and run across Imperial 248 00:16:44,140 --> 00:16:45,280 Highway and get in the van. 249 00:16:45,630 --> 00:16:49,810 The black kid, he pulls out a .32. He starts shooting at us, and this guy's 250 00:16:49,810 --> 00:16:50,810 insane. 251 00:16:51,390 --> 00:16:57,290 Last thing I ever expected when I'm about to be arrested is that she is 252 00:16:57,290 --> 00:16:58,290 rescue me. 253 00:16:58,490 --> 00:17:03,190 Patricia Hearst had more balls than anybody I've ever known. 254 00:17:03,790 --> 00:17:07,530 She saved my fucking life, and she didn't have to. 255 00:17:08,849 --> 00:17:12,790 We get in the van, and we try to haul ass in a VW bus. 256 00:17:13,580 --> 00:17:15,020 And it's taken forever. 257 00:17:16,940 --> 00:17:20,760 We come upon, almost immediately, like a Pontiac. 258 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:22,160 Looked like a nice car. 259 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,859 The guy in the driver's seat, he was a large man. 260 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:29,740 And I say, look, brother, I really hate to do this, but I got to take your car. 261 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,840 And he looks up at me. 262 00:17:32,700 --> 00:17:34,360 He says, you ain't taking my fucking car. 263 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:40,600 And I'm going, oh, God, what am I going to do here? I can't beat this guy up 264 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,600 because he's too big. 265 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,800 Emily, she racks around in her shotgun and she says, get out of the fucking 266 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:49,000 please. 267 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:55,080 We immediately tried to get everything out of the VW van and put it into the 268 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:56,860 Pontiac and we took off. 269 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:03,460 We hadn't gone but a block and a half and the car just absolutely stops. 270 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Holy shit. 271 00:18:05,780 --> 00:18:09,760 And right here in front of me, two black men standing in a driveway. 272 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,840 And I say to them, look, I'm really sorry, gentlemen, but I need to take 273 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:18,080 car. We're with the SLA and the cops are chasing us. We assumed if we revealed 274 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,840 ourselves to be the SLA after the food program and everything, that people 275 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,680 feel calm, that they would realize that, you know, us approaching them was not 276 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:26,680 an aggressive act. 277 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:31,380 He looks at me and he goes, oh, sure. And he reaches in and gives me the keys 278 00:18:31,380 --> 00:18:32,460 his car in his pocket, right? 279 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:38,740 So we get our stuff from the Pontiac and we move that into this car. We left. 280 00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:41,990 We made it out of there, we beat the cops out of there, and we're gone. 281 00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:50,890 The shootout at Mel's is, for me, the single most important piece of 282 00:18:50,890 --> 00:18:54,070 evidence that Patty Hearst had joined the SLA. 283 00:18:54,330 --> 00:19:00,150 Patty Hearst is no longer a captive, but she is a participant in the terrorism 284 00:19:00,150 --> 00:19:01,150 of the SLA. 285 00:19:03,150 --> 00:19:05,930 I know a lot of people made a big thing of... 286 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,900 The fact that she sprayed Mel's sporting goods with bullets when she could have 287 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:12,520 jumped in the car and gotten away. 288 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,560 I don't think that's as definitive as other people do. 289 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:18,040 It's not that simple. 290 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,180 But she had changed. 291 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:25,040 On some level, she thought she was Tanya. 292 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,500 By this time, this is three, four hours since the altercation at Mel's. 293 00:19:31,900 --> 00:19:33,780 And we knew we couldn't go back to the safe house. 294 00:19:34,740 --> 00:19:38,140 We're driving a stolen car. We couldn't keep driving it around, so we had to 295 00:19:38,140 --> 00:19:39,140 figure out another way. 296 00:19:40,180 --> 00:19:45,940 In 1974, I was 18 years old. I was a senior in high school. I had a Ford 297 00:19:45,940 --> 00:19:47,220 Econoline van for sale. 298 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,480 About 7 o 'clock Thursday night, and the door knocked on my front door, and it 299 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,740 was a woman wanting to test drive my van. 300 00:19:55,380 --> 00:19:59,540 So I said, sure. I just tossed her the keys. I got in the passenger seat. 301 00:19:59,740 --> 00:20:03,620 We just drove one block and turned right, and then she stopped. 302 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:07,120 and she said, can my friends come along? 303 00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:13,680 All I noticed was William Harris getting out of the car, because as he got out, 304 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:18,040 there was something bulging out of his jacket, and opened up his coat, and sure 305 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,240 enough he had a machine gun, said they were with the SLA and they needed to 306 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:22,179 borrow my van. 307 00:20:22,180 --> 00:20:24,900 But as soon as he said SLA, I knew who they were. 308 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,880 Patty got in the van behind William Harris, and he pointed to her and he 309 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:30,799 you know who this is? 310 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:31,800 I shook my head no. 311 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,800 I didn't recognize her. She had a black curly wig on. 312 00:20:35,220 --> 00:20:37,700 But he said, this is Tanya. And he kind of smiled. 313 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,600 And as soon as he learned she was Patricia Hearst, he couldn't believe 314 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,660 had happened to him. I said, wow, my friends aren't going to believe this 315 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,560 I never really felt that fearful for my life. 316 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,460 We even started talking sports. 317 00:20:53,140 --> 00:20:56,420 And that's when I told them that I had a baseball game the next day. 318 00:20:56,910 --> 00:21:01,570 We were concerned about him. We wanted him to be able to go on his way and play 319 00:21:01,570 --> 00:21:02,570 in his playoff game. 320 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:07,350 I wanted him to be calm, and so we were very charming and nice to him. 321 00:21:08,730 --> 00:21:10,470 Patricia kind of was flirting with him. 322 00:21:11,910 --> 00:21:13,170 Patricia and Tom are talking. 323 00:21:13,610 --> 00:21:17,890 Patricia takes out her gun and takes the bullets out of it, and she gives him a 324 00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:19,810 gun, and she explains to him why we were robbing banks. 325 00:21:20,590 --> 00:21:25,110 Patty opened up, and she told me that she was a willing participant in the 326 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:26,110 robbery. 327 00:21:26,350 --> 00:21:31,250 When Patty talked about Mel's Sporting Goods store, she was very proud of how 328 00:21:31,250 --> 00:21:32,850 she freed, she called them her comrades. 329 00:21:33,130 --> 00:21:35,350 She was truly one of them. 330 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:41,050 Bill had a handcuff on one wrist. They stopped, got a hacksaw, and so I 331 00:21:41,050 --> 00:21:42,050 cut through the pin. 332 00:21:43,330 --> 00:21:44,330 It worked. 333 00:21:44,630 --> 00:21:48,950 I cut the handcuff off of him. He was so relieved. He gave me a big hug, bear 334 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:51,450 hug, and then Patty actually gave me a kiss on the cheek. 335 00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:57,590 We had already had a system of rendezvous points that were set up just 336 00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:58,429 .A. area. 337 00:21:58,430 --> 00:22:03,130 They had it planned to meet their other comrades at the Century Drive -In. 338 00:22:03,370 --> 00:22:06,310 Their signal was a coffee cup on the top of the vehicle. 339 00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:12,130 We bought food, we fed Tom, and waited. 340 00:22:15,490 --> 00:22:18,970 The SLA suspects entered this sporting goods store and they were caught 341 00:22:18,970 --> 00:22:24,320 stealing. They ran, firing as many as 30 shots from a .30 caliber machine gun. 342 00:22:24,580 --> 00:22:28,780 One suspect dropped this revolver, later traced to Emily Harris, a member of the 343 00:22:28,780 --> 00:22:35,480 SLA. Seeing the news of the Mel's shootout, the six others realize the 344 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,240 LAPD knows they're in town. 345 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:42,500 So they figure they need to get out of where they had been with Bill, Emily, 346 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,320 Patty, and they start looking for somewhere else to go. 347 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:48,560 They're on 84th Street, and they drive through. 348 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:52,240 South Central, and looking for a new place to stay. 349 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:59,240 And they find a house in the middle of the night of May 16th on 54th Street, 350 00:22:59,340 --> 00:23:00,340 a few miles away. 351 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:05,800 We realized that they're not coming. 352 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,520 We drove to the hills. 353 00:23:08,660 --> 00:23:10,760 You know, we discussed our next move. 354 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,980 Emily or Patricia possibly tried to imagine what we left behind. 355 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:20,380 And we realized, we actually realized that we left the parking ticket behind. 356 00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:26,020 We knew that the parking ticket was going to connect it to the street that 357 00:23:26,020 --> 00:23:27,020 house was on. 358 00:23:27,360 --> 00:23:28,360 Big mistake. 359 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:29,440 Big, horrible mistake. 360 00:23:37,140 --> 00:23:40,980 In May of 1974, I was one of the reporters on the staff of KNXT. 361 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,280 In Los Angeles, we used to call ourselves CBS Channel 2 News. 362 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,760 The morning of May 17th, I just cruise in to the station, and I usually get in 363 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,540 between 7 .30 and 8, sometime like that. 364 00:23:54,740 --> 00:23:59,500 When Mel's Sporting Goods happened and the shootout happened with Patty Hearst, 365 00:23:59,620 --> 00:24:01,920 we figured the SLA is in L .A. 366 00:24:03,140 --> 00:24:04,560 I got on the story that morning. 367 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,520 We got the sense that the LAPD was going to get these guys. 368 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:16,520 They had a reputation for cracking heads, and unfortunately, not all, but 369 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,560 of the heads deserved cracking. 370 00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:25,580 They were using this new unit called SWAT, and they had, up to that point, 371 00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:29,560 able to pretty much use SWAT very effectively. 372 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:38,140 In May of 1974, I was a police officer working for the city of Los Angeles and 373 00:24:38,140 --> 00:24:39,320 assigned to the SWAT team. 374 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:44,420 Special Weapons and Tactics. It was an acronym developed by Darrell Gates, who 375 00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:49,020 was the deputy chief at the time. The first SWAT team was LAPD. 376 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:52,900 The LAPD started the SWAT team right after the 1965 riots. 377 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,700 And they wanted station defense teams. 378 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:02,840 And they would respond to their police station in the event of a riot and 379 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,840 that police station. 380 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:07,120 That was their primary purpose at the time. 381 00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:13,350 So they trained them to be high ground security for patrol cops who were 382 00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:18,870 ground level during violent uprisings, which were happening about every other 383 00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:19,870 day back then. 384 00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:23,290 There was one riot after another. 385 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:30,790 On May 17, 1974, I was sound asleep in bed. I get a call from Metropolitan 386 00:25:30,790 --> 00:25:36,190 Division, the desk there, and they asked me to respond to 84th and Vermont with 387 00:25:36,190 --> 00:25:37,149 my partner. 388 00:25:37,150 --> 00:25:42,190 We responded, met with the supervisor there, who was Ron McCarthy, and he told 389 00:25:42,190 --> 00:25:43,570 us what our job was going to be. 390 00:25:45,070 --> 00:25:51,770 The FBI, they believed the SLA would be in or around that location because their 391 00:25:51,770 --> 00:25:58,370 getaway vehicle had a parking ticket in it. They were going to try to locate the 392 00:25:58,370 --> 00:26:00,810 SLA, and they were going to go to that address first. 393 00:26:02,550 --> 00:26:05,650 We were called to join the FBI to help them. 394 00:26:06,940 --> 00:26:13,120 be present and if they needed us to be plugged in anywhere we would in 1974 395 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:20,040 lapd swat was probably the only swat team in the country that 396 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,540 could have handled something like this the fbi swat team was not totally formed 397 00:26:24,540 --> 00:26:31,180 there were wannabes the fbi swat team was 398 00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:36,400 trying to get their act together about how they wanted to do this because These 399 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,900 were dangerous suspects in there. The special agent in charge of the FBI 400 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,580 was there, who was a pain in the neck. 401 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:48,440 He was yelling at the FBI SWAT guys, just go up and kick the doors, hurry up, 402 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,119 hurry up. 403 00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:54,660 They hurried up, and they ran across the backyard and booted the back door and 404 00:26:54,660 --> 00:26:55,660 ran in. 405 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,120 The SLA, they were gone. 406 00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:09,250 Had there been an SLA member in there with one of those SLA weapons, there 407 00:27:09,250 --> 00:27:12,450 have been a lot of dead FBI agents. 408 00:27:14,310 --> 00:27:19,730 They had still left thousands of rounds of ammunition they couldn't take with 409 00:27:19,730 --> 00:27:23,290 them. Their propaganda, a lot of the stuff that they handed out. There was a 410 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:27,350 radio in there tuned to police calls in L .A. 411 00:27:27,830 --> 00:27:32,910 Also a watch list that showed that they always had somebody up and about. 412 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,440 24 -7, so that you weren't going to surprise them. 413 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,320 Deputy Chief Gates was there, and I went up to him and said, you know, if that 414 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:51,600 idiot, meaning the special agent in charge of the FBI, is anywhere, we don't 415 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:52,940 want anything to do with that idiot. 416 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,460 He said, don't worry, you won't have to. The FBI had been playing the heavy role 417 00:27:59,460 --> 00:28:05,510 in San Francisco, but by the time they got to L .A., It was LAPD's turf. The 418 00:28:05,510 --> 00:28:08,610 LAPD prevailed and basically took the lead in it. 419 00:28:10,170 --> 00:28:14,830 When I woke up Friday morning, it was about 7 o 'clock in the morning, and the 420 00:28:14,830 --> 00:28:18,890 two girls, they were standing up in the van, and they knew that their next step 421 00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:20,610 was they needed another mode of transportation. 422 00:28:20,990 --> 00:28:24,590 That's when I was kind of hoping this ordeal would be over, you know, soon. 423 00:28:25,850 --> 00:28:31,110 Emily and Patricia decide to set up as if they're hitchhiking somewhere. 424 00:28:31,630 --> 00:28:33,650 and they're going to take the first car that picks them up. 425 00:28:34,170 --> 00:28:38,310 And sure enough, here comes a Cadillac. When they get in the car and they take 426 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:39,310 them hostage. 427 00:28:39,570 --> 00:28:43,690 They tossed me my keys, told me to stay there for about 10 minutes, so that's 428 00:28:43,690 --> 00:28:44,489 what I did. 429 00:28:44,490 --> 00:28:46,190 Got in the Cadillac and we took off. 430 00:28:49,230 --> 00:28:52,350 LAPD, they were absolutely energized and engaged. 431 00:28:53,030 --> 00:28:57,290 I mean, they were mobilized. They were determined, and they were closing in, 432 00:28:57,290 --> 00:28:59,190 they were doing a good job of getting information. 433 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:05,580 People began to come up to us and say, hey, I saw this, I saw that. I saw this 434 00:29:05,580 --> 00:29:10,640 black person and this white person. Two white brothers went out to the blue van 435 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,700 and left in it and came back. And one was in the blue and one was in the red 436 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:20,320 white one. That's all I've seen. As the day progressed, we literally felt a 437 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,320 tightening noose. 438 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,120 The target got smaller and smaller and smaller and more defined, and they 439 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,180 finally had it narrowed down to a few houses. 440 00:29:30,380 --> 00:29:33,420 We looked at each other and we said, I wouldn't want the LAPD after me. 441 00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:44,260 Police and FBI agents used tear gas earlier today when they thought they had 442 00:29:44,260 --> 00:29:48,640 suspect surrounded in a South Los Angeles home. But when police entered, 443 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:49,960 found the structure deserted. 444 00:29:51,310 --> 00:29:56,850 With the incident that happened earlier in the morning, LAPD did not want the 445 00:29:56,850 --> 00:29:57,970 SLA to get away. 446 00:29:58,250 --> 00:30:03,970 We flooded the area with police cars, hoping to keep them wherever they were 447 00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:05,150 they were still in the area. 448 00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:09,270 That day, like any given day in the city of Los Angeles, there was probably 500 449 00:30:09,270 --> 00:30:13,530 police officers working the street. At least 150 of those officers were 450 00:30:13,530 --> 00:30:15,570 around the perimeter of that location. 451 00:30:16,590 --> 00:30:18,670 A patrol perimeter unit. 452 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,860 was approached by an elderly lady. 453 00:30:22,060 --> 00:30:25,800 The woman said, are you looking for those white folks with guns? 454 00:30:26,660 --> 00:30:30,820 And they said, yes, since they're in my daughter -in -law's house. And she said, 455 00:30:30,860 --> 00:30:32,280 it's five houses from the corner. 456 00:30:33,780 --> 00:30:39,540 I was approaching the fourth house, and as I got to the front door, I heard a 457 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,640 voice. And the voice was that, I believe, to be of St. Q. 458 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,540 I was right up against the house. 459 00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:51,180 I was right up against the house and he was ordering people to do things inside 460 00:30:51,180 --> 00:30:55,080 of the house, like to move the furniture, to barricade the front door. 461 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,940 immediately contacted the team at the rear and I said, the fourth house is the 462 00:30:59,940 --> 00:31:00,980 suspect's house. 463 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,340 That ironed it for us. 464 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,600 We knew we were at the right place. 465 00:31:08,010 --> 00:31:11,490 So we deployed right away. We would not have done it that way originally. 466 00:31:11,710 --> 00:31:16,490 But because they had eluded the FBI earlier in the morning, we decided to go 467 00:31:16,490 --> 00:31:19,410 ahead and go and evacuate houses as we approached them. 468 00:31:19,630 --> 00:31:24,030 We were scrambling to evacuate the people that hadn't evacuated yet. 469 00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:29,130 Five square blocks of the city that were contained and the homes were evacuated. 470 00:31:30,410 --> 00:31:33,470 My snipers were up in front. I had snipers at the rear. 471 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,540 We had 19 SWAT officers that were actually surrounding the house. 472 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:41,460 The media was every place. 473 00:31:41,980 --> 00:31:46,240 This is Bill Diaz of 55 and Compton. We're going to move down the street and 474 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:51,140 to get a better picture for you. Back in 1974, most TV stations in the United 475 00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:52,540 States were using film. 476 00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:57,080 And we'd go out with film canisters. 477 00:31:57,340 --> 00:32:01,860 And then the film would have to be run back to the station and processed and 478 00:32:01,860 --> 00:32:07,300 hope that it... I mean, you really couldn't cover breaking news with film. 479 00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:12,220 We were experimenting with a brand new form of camera. 480 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:17,480 We kind of dubbed it the minicam. It was a portable camera that allowed you to 481 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,820 do videotape and live coverage of news stories from the scene. Right where we 482 00:32:22,820 --> 00:32:23,709 are now. 483 00:32:23,710 --> 00:32:24,790 as well as the other location. 484 00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:28,950 I haven't been able to confirm that report as yet. So we were basically 485 00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:31,490 this whole new technique of covering news. 486 00:32:31,910 --> 00:32:35,350 Why is anyone in the vicinity of 55th and Compton to stay the heck away from 487 00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:39,070 here? Because it's not a place you want to be tonight. I'll tell you that, 488 00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:40,110 ladies and gentlemen. 489 00:32:43,970 --> 00:32:47,050 We're trying to figure out what our next move is. 490 00:32:47,250 --> 00:32:52,990 And on the radio, we learned that the last safe house that we had together had 491 00:32:52,990 --> 00:32:54,130 been hit by the police. 492 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:58,790 We didn't know where to go. We know the cops are, like, now closing in, and 493 00:32:58,790 --> 00:33:00,690 we've got to hole up somewhere. We can't be driving around. 494 00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:08,010 So we decide the place where we would be least conspicuous would be in a heavily 495 00:33:08,010 --> 00:33:09,010 touristed place. 496 00:33:09,770 --> 00:33:11,170 And so we choose Disneyland. 497 00:33:12,270 --> 00:33:15,870 And as soon as we get our stuff in the motel, we turn on the TV, they've 498 00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:18,610 surrounded the house on 54th Street. 499 00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:21,890 It's not a place you want to be tonight, I can tell you that, ladies and 500 00:33:21,890 --> 00:33:25,240 gentlemen. I was at the corner of the house, and I was kind of on my knees, 501 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,500 kneeling down up against the house. 502 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,220 And I notified my lieutenant of what I heard and the fact that they were 503 00:33:32,220 --> 00:33:33,220 barricading themselves. 504 00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:38,380 Jerry Brackley, he was the sergeant in front, and he gave an announcement 23 505 00:33:38,380 --> 00:33:39,400 separate times. 506 00:33:39,740 --> 00:33:45,760 To the people in the house at 1466 East 54th Street, you're surrounded. 507 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,220 We want you to surrender and walk out. 508 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,580 Basically, that was repeated over. 509 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:52,080 And over and over. 510 00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:58,260 And eventually, two people came out. A little boy, about eight, nine years old, 511 00:33:58,360 --> 00:33:59,800 and an elderly man. 512 00:34:00,180 --> 00:34:03,100 When he was asked, hey, who's in there? 513 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,520 He lied and said, there's only an old black lady in there. 514 00:34:08,020 --> 00:34:09,460 Then they interviewed the little boy. 515 00:34:10,179 --> 00:34:13,080 And they asked him, who's inside the house? He says, a bunch of white people 516 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,058 with guns. 517 00:34:14,060 --> 00:34:18,360 Several people in there, white people and black people, and they have bullets 518 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,980 across their chest like this. 519 00:34:22,659 --> 00:34:28,320 And a radio transmission comes off for the team to deploy tear gas. 520 00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:36,219 One round goes into the side of that house. 521 00:34:36,679 --> 00:34:38,100 LAPD did not fire first. 522 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,480 We fired the tear gas round. 523 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:42,739 That was to cause them to surrender. 524 00:34:42,940 --> 00:34:44,520 That the gunfire erupted. 525 00:34:53,929 --> 00:34:55,270 It was amazing. 526 00:34:55,570 --> 00:34:58,050 It basically scared the hell out of me. 527 00:34:58,370 --> 00:34:59,810 And I dropped to the ground. 528 00:35:00,230 --> 00:35:02,330 I mean, I tried to dig a hole in the cement. 529 00:35:02,950 --> 00:35:06,890 The guys that were out in front thought that I was hit. I get up on my knee and 530 00:35:06,890 --> 00:35:08,450 I put my thumb up saying, I'm okay. 531 00:35:12,090 --> 00:35:19,070 Swear to God on my grandchildren's life, none of them made any effort to 532 00:35:19,070 --> 00:35:20,730 surrender in any way. 533 00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:28,440 You know, make our day. If that's what you want, then confrontation is 534 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,460 the police will do. 535 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,300 It was all on. 536 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:44,960 The weapons that we're using were 537 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:50,520 M1 carbines. An M1 carbine is capable of firing 900 rounds a minute. 538 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,840 They had converted it to fire 1 ,300 rounds per minute. 539 00:35:58,020 --> 00:36:04,360 We were outgunned. They had better weaponry. It was so many rounds going 540 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:10,260 fast that it sounded, I described it as like hearing a bedsheet tear. It was 541 00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:11,260 buzz. 542 00:36:14,660 --> 00:36:18,900 We heard the first barrage of gunfire from the SLA house. 543 00:36:19,500 --> 00:36:20,700 and we're about a block away. 544 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,300 Well, there's an alleyway that runs parallel to Compton all the way down to 545 00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:32,680 54th. And I grab the microphone, and I grab my cameraman, and we start running 546 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:38,120 down the alleyway, unspooling the cable, you know, in this bulky minicam. 547 00:36:40,790 --> 00:36:43,270 Okay, we're right here in the corner of 54th and Compton now. 548 00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:48,030 We're about across the street and two houses away from where all the shooting 549 00:36:48,030 --> 00:36:51,550 has been going on. We go straight through to Compton, and I can see the 550 00:36:51,550 --> 00:36:52,550 the SLA house. 551 00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:56,130 Now, if you look close, you'll see fire going both in and out. See that rag 552 00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:58,030 bobbing up and down in the gunfire? 553 00:36:59,910 --> 00:37:04,350 Okay, there's an enormous amount of fire being concentrated on that yellow 554 00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:07,970 house. We were too energized yet to be scared. 555 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,960 At one point, there's a policeman standing by a telephone pole. Bob 556 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:14,880 of our other reporters, joined me at the scene. 557 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,420 He came up with the craziest stunt of the day. 558 00:37:17,660 --> 00:37:22,940 Can you indicate to us which side is the police target? Are they aiming to go 559 00:37:22,940 --> 00:37:24,740 this way or that direction? Which way is it? 560 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:26,120 They're going this way. 561 00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:28,940 Are we in that direction? 562 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,800 All right. And then all of a sudden, we hit. 563 00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:33,580 Close as I have. 564 00:37:34,620 --> 00:37:38,040 Look out there. Literally, I could feel the breeze from the bullet go right by 565 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,340 my ear, and it whacked into the building right behind us. 566 00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:44,340 Look out there. That's bad. That's bad. 567 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,120 We just got missed by a bullet. 568 00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:50,040 It went to the house right beside us here. 569 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,180 That's when we got scared. 570 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,680 We better get out of here, you guys. This is incredible. 571 00:37:55,860 --> 00:38:01,480 This shootout was incredibly dramatic, but what made it even... 572 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:07,880 crazier and even more of a national obsession was that everyone thought 573 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,460 Hearst was inside the house. 574 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:16,640 So this fight was being watched around the world with everyone thinking that 575 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,540 this era is about to be murdered on live television. 576 00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,100 We don't want to kill everybody in the house. 577 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,960 We don't shoot at a house because we want to kill the people there. We want 578 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,960 stop the gunfire. 579 00:38:30,190 --> 00:38:33,710 The gunfire that's going indiscriminately throughout the 580 00:38:33,710 --> 00:38:36,610 other people outside that are not involved, that are trying to get away 581 00:38:36,770 --> 00:38:38,850 This was urban guerrilla warfare. 582 00:38:39,190 --> 00:38:43,630 There was this sense of, like, we've got to suppress this. We've got to make 583 00:38:43,630 --> 00:38:50,350 this stop. That day, I knew that the whole focus of the police was to stop 584 00:38:50,350 --> 00:38:51,350 shooting. 585 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:57,390 These were people intent on killing as many people as they could, and they 586 00:38:57,390 --> 00:39:00,850 didn't care how many innocent people got killed. 587 00:39:01,070 --> 00:39:04,670 We hand through tear gas grenades. 588 00:39:04,950 --> 00:39:10,510 They had chemical agents' masks, and they withstood all of the chemical 589 00:39:10,510 --> 00:39:14,150 we put in there, and we put in a bunch. 590 00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:17,150 Then the house caught on fire. 591 00:39:17,810 --> 00:39:19,330 They just shooed the people away. 592 00:39:19,550 --> 00:39:20,910 We're trying to bring you... 593 00:39:21,210 --> 00:39:22,550 A shot of the burning building. 594 00:39:28,610 --> 00:39:30,290 There's still an exchange of fire. 595 00:39:30,530 --> 00:39:36,390 And Jerry made announcements again and said, hey, the house is on fire. 596 00:39:37,410 --> 00:39:39,110 You need to surrender. 597 00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:57,410 I saw the door open and I took my weapon and I aimed at the doorway. 598 00:39:57,690 --> 00:40:01,230 And then I saw Christine Johnson, I believe her name was. And she came out 599 00:40:01,230 --> 00:40:02,230 her hands up. 600 00:40:02,830 --> 00:40:04,350 And I ordered a ceasefire. 601 00:40:04,650 --> 00:40:05,650 And it stopped. 602 00:40:05,730 --> 00:40:07,330 And then she walked out to safety. 603 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:11,010 And she moved across and was taken into custody by the detectives there. 604 00:40:23,940 --> 00:40:28,500 I didn't know who she was. You don't shoot at a person that's surrendering. 605 00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:32,220 Everybody in that house had the same opportunity she did. 606 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:37,140 And then there was black smoke and it was obviously the place was on fire. 607 00:40:38,020 --> 00:40:43,940 And, you know, and it was basically time for them to stop and they wouldn't 608 00:40:43,940 --> 00:40:50,540 stop. There is still fire coming from inside the Target house, which is across 609 00:40:50,540 --> 00:40:51,760 the street, as I said before. 610 00:40:52,620 --> 00:40:55,320 Patty Hearst was not in my mind at all. 611 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,560 My safety and the safety of my officers was more important to me than whether 612 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,200 she was in there or not. If she's in there, that's her problem, not mine. 613 00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:05,800 I did what I had to do. 614 00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:08,820 If she was in there, God willed it. 615 00:41:23,240 --> 00:41:28,260 May 17, 1974 is the worst day of my life. The house is burning and they're 616 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:31,540 shooting. I think they were that committed or that crazy. 617 00:41:31,860 --> 00:41:35,740 When they recovered that body, everybody thought that was Patty Hearst. We had 618 00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:38,560 hundreds of agents covering leads. It's as though they'd disappear. 619 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,100 Greetings to the people. This is Tanya. I know what I have to do. 620 00:41:43,340 --> 00:41:44,360 She was on a mission. 621 00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:46,780 How can you not love someone like that? 622 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,780 Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. 57373

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