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The name Hearst was really synonymous
with over -the -top wealth. And who we
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targeted as being enemies of the people.
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The Seminese Liberation Army committed a
horrendous crime.
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Marcus Foster was killed.
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The bullets that were used were cyanide
-tipped.
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Two men, Joseph Romero and Russell
Little, were arrested for Foster's
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The decision to kidnap Patricia Hearst
was the direct result of John Russell's
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arrest. I was... Just a college student
at Berkeley, living with my boyfriend.
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There was a knock on the door. People
just burst into the apartment.
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Started kicking me, hitting me.
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It's like they're going to kill us.
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Hearst is tied up and gagged and
blindfolded, thrown in the trunk, and we
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away.
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The granddaughter of William Randolph
Hearst was abducted by two men and a
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in a bizarre kidnapping.
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No ransom note, no phone calls, no word,
nothing.
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The SLA is the people's army and we
fight in their interest.
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The FBI said the girl in the wig with
the automatic rifle was Patricia Hearst.
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Which college girl turned armed
terrorist in a matter of weeks?
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Southern California's largest manhunt
continues.
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For someone my age, I've been through an
awful lot.
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We don't know where she is.
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Mom, Dad, I'm okay.
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I think what you saw in the SLA was
something that started from idealistic
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and became poisoned.
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They had a hope that the country was
tender and they would be the spark, that
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the revolution is waiting for you.
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You just have to be the right person at
the right time.
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By this time, my eyes were full of
blood. I couldn't really see. I kind of
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sense of the cars speeding off because
we were almost on a corner.
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I staggered back around the front. It
was probably 30 seconds, 60 seconds.
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Came back and said, where's Patty?
Where's Patty?
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And they said they took her.
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I just didn't register.
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I didn't register.
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There's been a big kidnapping on the
West Coast. The victim is Patricia
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the daughter of newspaper executive
Randolph Hurst and a granddaughter of
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legendary William Randolph Hurst.
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February 4th, 1974.
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I was a young reporter at the San
Francisco Examiner that night.
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I got a call, Patty Hearst had been
kidnapped.
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It just didn't make sense. What did they
mean?
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Today, police were digging bullets out
of parked cars and windows and walls all
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up and down the street.
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They later found the empty getaway car.
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It had been stolen and abandoned.
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Police don't have an awful lot of leads,
but they know this kidnapping was too
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well organized to be spur of the moment.
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Shortly after the kidnapping, obviously,
this was a big event, and it happened
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in Berkeley. Berkeley has a small police
department, and they immediately made a
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notification to the Bureau, and then the
Bureau staffed up with everything that
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they had in order to try and solve this
case.
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I was in the hospital just under a week.
First time I saw Randy and Catherine
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after I got out of the hospital was they
greeted me at their home.
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At the front door, I made a short
statement.
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They said absolutely nothing. They were
very militaristic.
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They had it so well planned that they
needed to say almost nothing to each
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other.
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The house almost seemed under siege.
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The front yard and the side yards were
full of the media.
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Once Patty was kidnapped, the hearse...
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home in hillsborough became a place that
reporters went to every day in
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kidnappings you normally don't go to the
media okay but in this case it became a
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media frenzy right off the bat here at
the hearst mansion in hillsborough the
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phones in this home have been ringing
almost constantly telegrams are also
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coming in heavily but again not from the
people whom the police and the hearst
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desperately want to hear from there
really isn't anything new
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You've all been wonderful.
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We sit by the phones and we answer them
and we just hope that whoever has our
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daughter will turn her loose.
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We don't know who they are. We don't
know when we'll hear from them.
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They were controlled when they were on
camera.
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And for the most part, they said the
right things.
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Inside the house, it was a...
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It was pretty dark and gloomy, a little
bit of a roller coaster.
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The house was more like a command post.
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Before I got there, the FBI had already
set up.
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It's a measure of the influence of the
Hearst family, that they don't go to the
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FBI, the FBI goes to them.
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It was frustrating. I didn't feel like
the FBI were getting that far.
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Other than to say, yeah, we're working
on it, we'll get her, we'll do this.
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We've got 67 agents on it, 104 agents,
whatever it was.
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A few days after they kidnapped Patty
Hearst, they issued a statement,
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communique, they called it.
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A letter from the Symbionese Liberation
Army came in in the morning mail.
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And basically the communique confirms
that they are holding Patricia Hearst.
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United Federated Forces of the
Symbionese Liberation Army, armed with
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-loaded weapons, served an arrest
warrant upon Patricia Campbell Hearst.
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idea that Randy Hearst or anyone had to
read the words of the SLA was
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horrifying. But Randy was willing to do
it. He was willing to do anything
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because he wanted to save his daughter's
life.
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All communications from this court must
be published in full in all newspapers
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and all other forms of the media.
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Failure to do so will endanger the
safety of the prisoner.
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Our demands that they print all of our
communiques and read them on the news.
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I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like
this. The talking heads on the 6 o
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'clock news are sitting there reading
word for word these crazy -ass
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communiques.
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The hostage was not just Patricia
Hearst, the whole media was the hostage.
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Should any attempt be made by
authorities to rescue the prisoner or to
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harm any SLA elements, the prisoner is
to be executed.
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And in capital letters under that is
death to the fascist insect that preys
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the life of the people.
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Death to the fascist insect that preys
upon the life of the people.
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I'm sure I'm not the only person who
remembers that line.
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It was crazy talk, but they took
themselves seriously and they had Patty
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I realized who they were because when
they said that they were the SLA, they
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already murdered Marcus Foster in
Oakland.
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And so everybody.
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knew what had happened, and everybody
was really horrified by it.
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One of the most bizarre aspects of the
Hearst kidnapping is that the kidnappers
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never really thought through their
demands.
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You know, in some vague way, they wanted
Joe Romero and Russ Little freed.
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Well, the best case would be that they
make an exchange.
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It was hard to imagine with Nixon as
president and Reagan as governor that
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would ever happen. And as a matter of
fact, they were very staunch in their
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resolve not to cooperate with
terrorists.
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What about the release of the two
prisoners? Do you think that if it came
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that, that they should be released and
exchanged for petty prison?
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No, because I think if you ever start
doing anything of that kind, you might
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well open the prison doors.
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Where would it stop? You just would have
signed a warrant, if you did that, that
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would make kidnapping become a common
occupation.
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I was put in a closet and blindfolded
and being
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interrogated, insulted, just
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that over and over again.
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I mean, what would you do? You're in
your apartment one minute, and the next
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minute you're in a closet, blindfolded
for days on end.
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radical revolutionaries, the fear must
have been overwhelming, absolutely
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overwhelming.
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Good evening.
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Patricia Hearst has sent her parents a
message, and her captors have sent them
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unique and high -priced ransom note.
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There was a crowd outside Berkeley radio
station KPFA as the morning mail was
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opened. There was a letter. Newsmen
rushed in to hear it read on the air.
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while Mr. and Mrs. Hearst listened in
their Hillsboro home, a tape recording
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played.
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Mom, Dad, I'm okay.
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I had a few scrapes and
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stuff, but they've washed them up and
they're getting okay.
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I'm not being starved or beaten.
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She was alive, obviously terrified,
stressed out.
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She was talking, but she was clearly,
clearly terrorized and uncertain of her
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situation.
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She's sitting in the closet.
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DeVries was talking to her at this
particular time.
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We got the tape recorder, and she had to
reveal that we were attending to her
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needs. She wasn't being harmed, and she
wanted them to cooperate with us.
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I'm not gagged or anything, and I'm
comfortable.
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And I think you can tell that I'm not
really terrified or anything.
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You know, I'm okay.
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We didn't anticipate having her for very
long.
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If she was in our company and we weren't
wearing ski masks, then she was
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blindfolded. We didn't want her to see
our faces because we were going to
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release her.
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I want to get out of here, but the only
way I'm going to is if we do it their
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way.
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And I just hope that you'll do what they
say, Dad, and just do it
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quickly.
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When the SLA finally did make a demand,
it was very much the product
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of... the Indiana recruits, the theater
people, because it was a theatrical
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gesture that they were demanding.
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I didn't want to hurt anybody.
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We knew we could do those kind of Robin
Hood -type actions, and that's what I
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wanted to do.
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My name is Sin Q, and to my comrades, I
am known as Sin.
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I hold the rank of General Field Marshal
in the United Federated Forces of the
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Symbionese Liberation Army.
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As we became more organized, it was not
unusual to adopt code names.
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DeVries called himself Thin Q.
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Before any form of negotiation for the
release of the subject prisoner be
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initiated, let an action of good faith
be shown on the part of the Hurst
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This gesture is to be in the form of
food to the needy and the unemployed,
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to which the following instructions are
directed to be followed to the letter.
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As a show of good faith, distribute $70
of food to basically everybody in
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California that wants it.
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To us, it signaled that she was in the
hands of not a political group, but more
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like a Manson type of group.
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Just flat out barking mad.
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I mean, look, some of the communiques
sound relatively unsophisticated, but we
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didn't give a shit. We didn't give a
shit about what rich people in the
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government thought.
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We want to see how far we can motivate
them to do what we want. We had the ace.
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Morning. Morning.
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Morning.
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I think if I do what I can to distribute
some food to poor people, I think this,
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I hope at least, they'll believe that
I'm honest with them.
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That's as far as we can go.
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I had this terrible feeling that
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That's all I had asked for. What they
probably didn't even realize was a $400
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million demand.
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Randy was offering $2 million.
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Arrangements have been made for $2
million to be delivered to a tax -exempt
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charitable organization capable of
making a distribution for the benefit of
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poor in need.
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But I thought at least a few words
should be said, because, you know, this
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not seem like what you asked for, but...
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But this was a lot of money for us. He
didn't have $10 million sitting around.
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He really didn't. That was a lot of
money in those days.
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He didn't want to be undressed by the
SLA publicly.
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Randy would have done anything to save
her, but that was the one little piece
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pride that he wanted to retain in all
this.
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We disagreed. We disagreed about that.
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And over a few drinks, sometimes it
would turn into an argument, but we both
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realized how difficult the situation is.
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So the Hearths do a couple of things.
They raise money, and they reach out to
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Ludlow Kramer and Peggy Mays, who are
already involved in the state of
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Washington in food distribution
programs.
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Ludlow Kramer was our Secretary of
State. He and I, prior to this, had
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even though he was a Republican.
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Ludd and I flew down to meet with the
Hurst family.
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Within 24 hours, we were getting it
started.
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I wanted to get it done fast so that the
SLA would know that we were acting in
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good faith.
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Hurst was truly afraid that his daughter
was going to get killed if he did not
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comply.
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The SLA had been telling me over and
over again that...
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My parents didn't care about me, that
the police didn't care about me,
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that the FBI didn't care about me. I
believed that I had nowhere to go.
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If we think about Patty in this
situation, she's being bombarded by this
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of individuals who are hardcore,
dedicated Marxist revolutionaries, and
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going to be so...
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vulnerable to whatever is being fed to
her, that it's really going to be hard
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for her to process that in any kind of
rational way.
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He relatively quickly began to interact
with the three comrades that were
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assigned to her, and that was Willie,
Nancy, and Angela.
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She was a cooperative prisoner.
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She handled her situation admirably, and
it caused us to have more respect for
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her than we thought that we would.
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you know, have.
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Initially, Patty was afraid to eat in
the first couple of days.
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Sensing that Patty was afraid to eat,
Angela said, let me eat first and then
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take some food so that she would know
that they weren't trying to poison her.
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Comrades explained to her why we were
doing this.
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I'm sure she wondered if we were crazy
in the beginning, but she knew we
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crazy after talking to people. She just
understood that we were determined and
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we weren't fooling around.
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and that we understood that our lives
were in the balance, but that our
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were going to have an impact on other
people's lives.
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They would give me a flashlight and
literature, which I had to memorize and
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recite to them.
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I had to memorize what each one of the
heads of the seven -headed cobra meant,
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because they were now interested in re
-educating me, because that was the
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comradely thing to do.
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We needed her to be able to give some
kind of perspective on us as a captive.
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You know, she wasn't going back without
any knowledge about us.
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One of the many oddities of the SLA was
that there were five women and
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three men in that little house. It was
mostly women.
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And they were all self -professed
feminists.
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And that dynamic of empowering women was
something they talked about a lot.
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And part of that for that group was also
getting rid of monogamy.
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We had this relatively libertine
perspective on sexuality.
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I believe DeFries had had intimate
relations with both Nancy and Ms. Moon.
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Emily and I didn't perceive our marriage
as a typical exclusive relationship.
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Ms. Moon and Camilla had been lovers at
one time.
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Angela had been with Joe and Russ at the
same time, but they weren't there.
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We didn't have rules, other than the
fact that it was expected that comrades
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would be comradely. We all cared about
each other. We had a lot in common now
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because we were wanted together.
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We were all crime partners in the same
kidnapping.
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Patty is first being introduced to these
ideas, the idea of revolution, the idea
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of the selfishness.
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of the upper class.
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And here were people telling her that
women weren't second -class citizens,
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they could be free human beings and make
their own decisions.
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I can imagine that this would have been
very attractive to her and got her to
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think, oh, maybe their cause really is
just.
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This is something I could do. This would
give meaning to my life.
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She's going to get a political education
because she's going back.
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That was what I expected to happen.
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Dad, Mom, I'm making this tape to let
you know that I'm still okay and
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to explain a few things, I hope.
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The darkest parts of the story that I
remember were receiving the communiques.
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The family gathered around, you know,
there'd be complete silence.
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First about the good faith gesture, just
do it as fast as you can.
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And everything will be fine.
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She does sound all right.
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Doesn't mean she's out of danger, but at
least we know she's all right for the
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moment. She's still being told what to
say.
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That's clear.
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But it's a little more of her in it.
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These were all her words.
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It was us giving her an idea of what we
needed to communicate through her.
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Okay, look, here's what you got to do.
You got to let your family know that
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you're okay.
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I want them all to know that I'm okay
and to understand that I'll be okay as
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long as the SLA demands are met.
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Let them know that you're not being
harmed. You can tell them that you're
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held under the Geneva Convention and
that this applies to our two comrades in
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San Quentin.
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I am being held as a prisoner of war and
not as anything
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else. I mean, and I'm being treated in
accordance with international codes of
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war.
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I mean, Dad, you shouldn't listen or
believe what anybody else says about the
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way I'm being treated. This is the way
that I am being treated.
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That sounds totally like her own words.
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You know, I mean, that's not our words.
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That's not how we would say anything. It
wasn't anything that she would be
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adverse to saying anyway.
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It's merely saying what's real.
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It's really important that everybody
understand that, you know, I am an
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and a warning.
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And because of this, it's very important
to the SLA that I return safely.
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So people should stop acting like I'm
dead.
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Mom should get out of her black dress.
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That doesn't help at all.
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It was shocking to hear Patty's soft,
whispery voice telling her mother, get
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of the black dress, and then I'm not
dead.
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You shouldn't be in mourning.
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And there would be groans.
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Catherine would burst into tears, and
she'd say, we're never going to see her
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again. We're never going to save her.
She's dead.
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And Randy would say, Catherine, that's
not the point. That's not the point.
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Try not to worry so much and just do
what you can. And, I mean, I know you're
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doing everything.
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Just
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take
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care of Steve and, you know, just hurry.
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Bye. Every communique that would come
out, I just had this obsessive need to
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sort of tell myself what are the chances
this is going to come out okay. And I
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remember there were times when I would
say, there isn't a 20 % chance she's
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going to get out of this.
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It just seemed like it was hopeless.
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We didn't really want her life to be in
jeopardy. That didn't advance our
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political goals.
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So what we did to demonstrate that she
was not our enemy was we trained her
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on how to use a little shotgun. If we
got in circles, she would have a shotgun
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and she would have been able to defend
herself if cops came in and actually
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tried to kill her too.
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She's not a stereotypical Hollywood
victim.
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I'm sure she's trying to calculate her
next move.
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Hundreds of phone calls and dozens of
volunteers were coming in, offering
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time, and money to put into effect the
food distribution plan the kidnappers
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demanded.
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The SLA had required that the food be
distributed to people who need it.
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why it was called People in Need as a
program.
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And so the food is flowing into the
China Basin, this enormous warehouse,
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millions of dollars worth of food they
have to distribute.
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Over the period of time, there were
hundreds of volunteers.
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I'm assigned to the warehouse, and so
basically I'm a kind of glorified
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guard. I'm helping Ludlow and Peggy get
some handle on all of this.
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People in need was and remains
unprecedented in American history. A
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crime leads to the creation of a social
service agency almost overnight. And
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they really did start to give away food.
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The things that I wanted to do were the
things that would inspire people to
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understand that we get it why they're so
broke and can't feed their kids.
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That it has nothing to do with them and
their particular limitations.
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It has to do with an economy that
doesn't give a rat's ass about them.
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Ronald Reagan was governor of California
at the time.
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And the press came to me and they said,
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We'd like you to respond to something
that the governor has just said to the
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press. One of them read and he said,
well, Governor Reagan said today that he
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hoped that anybody that took food from
your program got botulism.
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And so I used a pejorative that started
with M or F -er.
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What's your feeling about what Governor
Reagan said?
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Well, obviously if I agreed with him, I
wouldn't be here today sending out the
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13 locations.
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The day that the People in Need program
started, I was assigned to follow A.
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Ludlow Kramer. He was staying at a
downtown hotel in San Francisco, and I
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assumed I would meet him there, and we
would immediately go to one of the
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outlets. But we met, and he said he knew
it was all going to go so smoothly, so
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he and I would have breakfast.
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And I remember he had eggs benedict, and
meanwhile, there were riots.
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that were occurring at the People in
Need program.
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What was on TV was bedlam.
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The trucks, they're throwing food at the
people standing in line, fish and eggs
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and bread, and they were actually
throwing it.
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That's just the most disgusting thing
I've ever seen, and it was...
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broadcast everywhere.
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The Hearst empire has attempted to
mislead the people and to deceive them
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claiming to put forth a good faith
gesture of two million dollars.
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This amount is not at all a good faith
gesture but rather is an act of throwing
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a few crumbs to the people forcing them
to fight over it amongst themselves.
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We agree with the need for Mr. Hearst to
meet those those terms but just think
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of the difference if If our people had
said no to the kidnappers, we will not
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accept help on those terms. We will not
accept help at the price of it being
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the life of a young girl.
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At some point, we provided Patricia with
a small television and a radio so she
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could follow what was going on. So we
didn't keep her in the dark about
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everything that was on the news about
her kidnapping.
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The SLA was obsessed with their own
press coverage.
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They watched it incessantly. They read
the newspapers incessantly.
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The SLA sees that the food giveaway has
proceeded with problems, but it has
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proceeded. So they say, let's do it
again.
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Randy had spent $2 million. They make
another demand for an additional $4
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million.
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The plan proposed by Mr. Hearst.
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is not at all acceptable as a gesture of
good faith in its present form.
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It shall be acceptable only that an
additional $4 million be added to the $2
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million already allotted, making a total
of $6 million to be used for the
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purchase of food.
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Death to the fascist insect that preys
upon the life of the people.
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I'd like to make a statement.
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The size of the latest demand of the SLA
is far beyond my financial capability.
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Therefore, the matter is now out of my
hands.
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Randy's dilemma is especially acute not
only because his daughter is in
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mortal danger, but because the SLA
thinks he has more money than he does.
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William Randolph Hearst set up his
company so that professional managers
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always call the shots because he just
didn't trust any of his sons to live up
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his example.
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In the 1970s, Randy Hearst's title was
publisher of the San Francisco Examiner,
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which was really the flagship paper of
the Hearst chain.
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In fact, he was only sort of the
publisher. He was a figurehead, and he
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had to go to his keepers.
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in the Hearst world to get access to the
kind of cash that the SLA is talking
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about. There were eight or ten board
members.
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They weren't about to empty the coffers
to maybe get Patty back.
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What's that going to tell all the other
cousins and nephews?
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Everybody's going to be a kidnapping
frenzy.
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When they blowballed, she went apeshit.
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She thought he totally understated.
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His ability.
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That crushed her. That she thought that
she had been abandoned by her father.
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That she thought would always be there
for her.
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And what occurred to her was that this
was evidence that he was playing games
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with her life.
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She just figured her father could do
anything.
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The next communique, Patty's pretty
angry.
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Patty had...
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Dramatically changed. Something,
something snapped.
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Mom, Dad, I've received the message you
broadcast last Sunday.
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It was good to hear from you after so
much silence.
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Your silence has definitely jeopardized
my safety because it allows the FBI to
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continue to attempt to find me.
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and Governor Reagan to make antagonistic
statements with no response from you.
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I don't know who influenced you to not
comply with a good faith gesture.
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I know you could have done it the way
the SLA asked.
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I mean, I know that we have enough
money.
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I don't believe that you are doing
everything you can, everything in your
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I don't believe that you're doing
anything at all.
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You said that it was out of your hands.
What you should have said was that you'd
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wash your hands of it.
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Randy, and this was about the only time
I saw him slip where he said, Dad, it's
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out of my hands. It's just an
unfortunate turn of phrase, and of
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pretty angry.
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Yeah, it was a slip -up, but we all had
slip -ups.
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Mom, I can't believe that you agree with
the out -of -my -hand stance that Dad
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has taken.
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I just wish that you could be stronger
and pull yourself together from all
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emotional outbursts.
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and see if you can persuade that to
listen to you and the rest of the
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She didn't sound as though she was
someone who was the victim anymore.
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Over time, Patty, she developed a
rapport and a relationship with the
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comrades that were dealing with her that
was unusual for those circumstances.
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Willie spent a lot of time with her.
Willie had the closest connection to her
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anybody based on class background.
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And he spent a ton of time with her,
introducing her to some of the writers
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had influenced him.
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And Willie starts to explain to Patty
why he's joined the SLA.
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And he starts giving her books to read.
And he starts listening to her and
451
00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:52,100
talking to her in a way that's more like
a peer than as a kidnapper.
452
00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:56,800
I realized that she developed an
infatuation with Willie.
453
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,600
And finally, I think Angela asked her,
is there anybody in the cell that she
454
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,640
wants to have sex with? And she said
she'd like to have sex with Willie.
455
00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:12,680
And when Angela came back and revealed
this to us, it caused a big uproar.
456
00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,480
It was a huge fight from that point.
457
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,200
I didn't want Willie and Patricia, even
if this was something that Patricia
458
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760
wanted to do, to have sex. It wasn't
Willie's idea.
459
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,260
I wasn't able to really wrap my mind
around.
460
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,980
why this was ever going to turn out to
be a good thing. What happens after
461
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,000
She's got to go home. We're going to
release her to go home.
462
00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:40,060
In the end, more comrades than Emily and
I agreed that they could have a sexual
463
00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:41,860
encounter if they both wanted to have
one.
464
00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:47,080
And then they were given some privacy
together, and that was it.
465
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,040
I think she found out what he looked
like that night when they had that
466
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,260
encounter. I'm sure he had her take her
blindfold off. So they abandoned the
467
00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:59,740
facade. Out in the world, is she going
to say she wants to sleep with a guy
468
00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:01,280
she's only seen with a ski mask on?
469
00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,120
Look, you know what I want to explain?
There's one of those quirky things of
470
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,960
living in that kind of a circumstance.
471
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,200
It was unusual.
472
00:33:10,660 --> 00:33:12,280
It's exactly how it went down.
473
00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:17,800
Don't ask me to explain why it doesn't
fit to your sense of what makes sense.
474
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,200
This is what fucking happened.
475
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,060
Most people that I know of, you
included, never lived in that kind of a
476
00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:24,060
circumstance.
477
00:33:37,550 --> 00:33:39,210
The Bureau pulled out all the stops.
478
00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:42,590
These guys were doing everything that
they could to find her.
479
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:49,050
Every law enforcement technique that
could possibly be used, I think, was
480
00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:51,850
or attempted to be tried to one degree
or another.
481
00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:54,130
They consulted a psychic.
482
00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:56,970
They consulted three more psychics.
483
00:33:57,230 --> 00:34:02,370
They listened to a prisoner who said, if
you let me out, I'll find you Patricia
484
00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:05,810
Hearst. They let him out. He didn't find
Patricia Hearst.
485
00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:10,530
Nobody really knew what to do. It's like
even seeing the psychics.
486
00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:14,590
Everybody knew that wasn't going to work
anywhere, but it was like, got to do
487
00:34:14,590 --> 00:34:15,590
something.
488
00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:22,810
Patricia, she's sitting there watching
the spectacle from outside her home with
489
00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:27,190
all the knucklehead news people talking
about shit, and also she doesn't really
490
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:32,010
get the sense that her family has her
well -being foremost in their minds, and
491
00:34:32,010 --> 00:34:33,909
her mother was just grossing her out.
492
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:40,040
One of the reasons we had targeted the
family was Catherine's tenure as a
493
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,460
of the University of California.
494
00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:47,699
The regents, who was no friend of the
students, thought they should behave,
495
00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:53,500
been an ongoing subject of discord and
unhappiness ever since the free speech
496
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,239
movement. Catherine Hearst was tough.
497
00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,800
She was a powerful figure in her own
right who could help Ronald Reagan in
498
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,180
mission. to crack down on the student
protesters and restore Berkeley to the
499
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:16,020
orderly place it had been in the 1950s.
After Perditch's kidnapping, she agreed
500
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:20,320
to a reappointment by Governor Reagan,
which is her way of flipping us off.
501
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:27,240
I think Catherine's acceptance of
reappointment, because it was so
502
00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:32,280
slap at the SLA, really did have an
impact on...
503
00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:37,730
Patty's relationship with the SLA and
her growing alienation from her own
504
00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:38,730
family.
505
00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:41,250
Patricia about had a cow.
506
00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:44,470
That was the last straw.
507
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,020
Years ago, William Randolph Hearst
defined his idea of a news story.
508
00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:03,620
said, are interested in the
fundamentals, love, romance, adventure,
509
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,300
mystery. The story of his granddaughter
is all of that, especially mystery.
510
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,860
The mystery of where she is now.
511
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000
She desperately did not want to go home.
512
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,560
I didn't want her to be with us.
513
00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:27,900
First of all, it wasn't safe for her to
remain with us. You know, by this time,
514
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:29,880
we're known. All of us are identified.
515
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,440
We're on the run right now.
516
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,380
If she could go home, she would be
repatriated in one way or another.
517
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:42,260
When we transported her to Golden Gate,
the tide was turning to her staying.
518
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:48,320
I don't remember why we left the house
on Northridge other than we couldn't
519
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,320
afford it anymore.
520
00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:55,210
I mean, we went from a three -bedroom
house in a suburb near the ocean to nine
521
00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:57,230
of us living in a studio apartment in
the ghetto.
522
00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:03,730
One thing that appealed to the SLA about
this apartment was that it was on
523
00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:07,610
exactly the same street as the FBI
office was.
524
00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:10,270
There's a very common principle, hide in
plain sight.
525
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:13,830
That seems to work more effectively than
most people imagine.
526
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:21,340
By the time we moved to Golden Gate, She
goes from being a prisoner to already
527
00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:25,760
suggesting to the comrades that are
dealing with her that she doesn't think
528
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,760
wants to go home.
529
00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:31,240
She had to convince us that this wasn't
some bullshit, that she was going to
530
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:32,300
change her mind any second.
531
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,820
She was lobbying me when I finally
talked to her. I'm one of the last
532
00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:37,820
that did it.
533
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:42,100
You know, I just figured I could, if
anybody can persuade her, it's me.
534
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:44,200
I'm going to persuade her this is a dumb
idea.
535
00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:49,150
I didn't see it as political theater. I
thought this was some serious shit. You
536
00:37:49,150 --> 00:37:50,710
want to do this, you're probably going
to die.
537
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:58,830
The FBI came, and he said, there's a new
communique that has just come in, and
538
00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:03,230
it was Patty's voice. And Randy kind of,
you know, took this deep breath.
539
00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:09,470
I would like to begin this statement by
informing the public that I wrote what
540
00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:10,470
I'm about to say.
541
00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:12,290
It's what I feel.
542
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,860
I've never been forced to say anything
on any tape.
543
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:24,140
There was a moment of truth when we had
a meeting and we were out in the
544
00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:28,660
main room, the main room at Golden Gate,
and she's blindfolded.
545
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,380
And we're all sitting around, none of us
have ski masks.
546
00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:39,960
And the question is posed to her, you
are now no longer a prisoner. We're
547
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,820
to release you somewhere.
548
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,820
that you agree to go.
549
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,980
We understand that you don't want to
leave and you don't want to go home. So
550
00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:50,440
it's your choice. You can make the
choice here and then.
551
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,160
Mom, Dad, I would like to comment on
your efforts to supposedly secure my
552
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,160
safety.
553
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,260
My mother's acceptance of the
appointment to a second term as a UC
554
00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:10,650
you well knew, would have caused my
immediate execution had the SLA been
555
00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:12,790
than together about their political
goals.
556
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:20,670
No one amongst us ever concluded before
he brought it up that
557
00:39:20,670 --> 00:39:22,430
this was even a remote possibility.
558
00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:30,200
I have been given the choice of one,
being released in a safe area, or two,
559
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:35,680
joining the forces of the Symbionese
Liberation Army and fighting for my
560
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,700
and the freedom of all oppressed people.
561
00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:40,460
I have chosen to stay and fight.
562
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,620
And that was it.
563
00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:43,820
Done deal.
564
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,040
I have been given the name Tanya after a
comrade who fought alongside Che in
565
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,940
Bolivia for the people of Bolivia.
566
00:39:54,650 --> 00:40:00,030
It is in the spirit of Tanya that I say,
patria muerte, venceremos.
567
00:40:02,110 --> 00:40:04,890
She had joined the SLA.
568
00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:11,790
It was as dramatic as hearing that she
had been kidnapped. It completely
569
00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:18,290
everything. That was a terrible tape to
hear. We could hear some real anger in
570
00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:19,990
her voice, real anger.
571
00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:22,090
But the...
572
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,740
The statement she was making that she
really wanted to stay and fight just
573
00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:27,940
seemed absurd.
574
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:36,660
After Patricia was accepted into the
cell, Willie presented her with a gift,
575
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,980
a stone artifact that he got in a dig in
Mexico.
576
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,480
She wore it around her neck all the
time. You know, she didn't take it off.
577
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,620
As much as I hated the idea of her
joining us, it was spectacular
578
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,980
Now the heiress wants to join the
kidnappers.
579
00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:00,600
Just by saying that she had decided to
join us was only part of the equation.
580
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,400
You know, we had to prove that.
581
00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:22,110
There does seem to have been a profound
change in her.
582
00:41:22,350 --> 00:41:26,090
And I don't believe that she's going to
change her philosophy that quickly.
583
00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:29,650
Who would have thought that Patricia
Hearst would be robbing a bank as a
584
00:41:29,650 --> 00:41:30,650
revolutionary act?
585
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,590
She was ready to shoot anything that got
in her way. She must have been forced
586
00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:35,890
to do it. She's a victim of thought
control.
587
00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:38,650
LAPD, they were determined.
588
00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:43,010
This heiress is about to be murdered on
live television.
589
00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:46,570
For those people who still believe that
I'm brainwashed or dead.
590
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,320
We kidnapped a freak.
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