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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,010 --> 00:00:12,210 The name Hearst was really synonymous with over -the -top wealth. And who we 2 00:00:12,210 --> 00:00:14,630 targeted as being enemies of the people. 3 00:00:14,990 --> 00:00:18,190 The Seminese Liberation Army committed a horrendous crime. 4 00:00:18,590 --> 00:00:20,110 Marcus Foster was killed. 5 00:00:20,570 --> 00:00:23,890 The bullets that were used were cyanide -tipped. 6 00:00:24,130 --> 00:00:27,810 Two men, Joseph Romero and Russell Little, were arrested for Foster's 7 00:00:28,050 --> 00:00:31,690 The decision to kidnap Patricia Hearst was the direct result of John Russell's 8 00:00:31,690 --> 00:00:36,300 arrest. I was... Just a college student at Berkeley, living with my boyfriend. 9 00:00:36,780 --> 00:00:39,360 There was a knock on the door. People just burst into the apartment. 10 00:00:39,780 --> 00:00:41,320 Started kicking me, hitting me. 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,040 It's like they're going to kill us. 12 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,080 Hearst is tied up and gagged and blindfolded, thrown in the trunk, and we 13 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:48,080 away. 14 00:00:51,140 --> 00:00:56,020 The granddaughter of William Randolph Hearst was abducted by two men and a 15 00:00:56,020 --> 00:00:57,480 in a bizarre kidnapping. 16 00:00:59,210 --> 00:01:02,630 No ransom note, no phone calls, no word, nothing. 17 00:01:03,430 --> 00:01:07,390 The SLA is the people's army and we fight in their interest. 18 00:01:09,610 --> 00:01:14,230 The FBI said the girl in the wig with the automatic rifle was Patricia Hearst. 19 00:01:16,030 --> 00:01:19,690 Which college girl turned armed terrorist in a matter of weeks? 20 00:01:20,470 --> 00:01:23,030 Southern California's largest manhunt continues. 21 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:26,090 For someone my age, I've been through an awful lot. 22 00:01:27,310 --> 00:01:28,790 We don't know where she is. 23 00:01:30,670 --> 00:01:33,570 Mom, Dad, I'm okay. 24 00:01:39,130 --> 00:01:46,070 I think what you saw in the SLA was something that started from idealistic 25 00:01:46,070 --> 00:01:48,390 and became poisoned. 26 00:01:48,670 --> 00:01:55,070 They had a hope that the country was tender and they would be the spark, that 27 00:01:55,070 --> 00:01:56,730 the revolution is waiting for you. 28 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,500 You just have to be the right person at the right time. 29 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,220 By this time, my eyes were full of blood. I couldn't really see. I kind of 30 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:14,760 sense of the cars speeding off because we were almost on a corner. 31 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:21,520 I staggered back around the front. It was probably 30 seconds, 60 seconds. 32 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Came back and said, where's Patty? Where's Patty? 33 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,520 And they said they took her. 34 00:02:26,940 --> 00:02:28,020 I just didn't register. 35 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:29,600 I didn't register. 36 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:36,920 There's been a big kidnapping on the West Coast. The victim is Patricia 37 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,720 the daughter of newspaper executive Randolph Hurst and a granddaughter of 38 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,460 legendary William Randolph Hurst. 39 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:48,580 February 4th, 1974. 40 00:02:49,260 --> 00:02:54,120 I was a young reporter at the San Francisco Examiner that night. 41 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:57,270 I got a call, Patty Hearst had been kidnapped. 42 00:02:57,570 --> 00:02:59,670 It just didn't make sense. What did they mean? 43 00:02:59,910 --> 00:03:04,610 Today, police were digging bullets out of parked cars and windows and walls all 44 00:03:04,610 --> 00:03:05,630 up and down the street. 45 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:08,510 They later found the empty getaway car. 46 00:03:08,830 --> 00:03:10,610 It had been stolen and abandoned. 47 00:03:10,970 --> 00:03:15,390 Police don't have an awful lot of leads, but they know this kidnapping was too 48 00:03:15,390 --> 00:03:17,610 well organized to be spur of the moment. 49 00:03:18,570 --> 00:03:23,290 Shortly after the kidnapping, obviously, this was a big event, and it happened 50 00:03:23,290 --> 00:03:27,010 in Berkeley. Berkeley has a small police department, and they immediately made a 51 00:03:27,010 --> 00:03:31,550 notification to the Bureau, and then the Bureau staffed up with everything that 52 00:03:31,550 --> 00:03:33,630 they had in order to try and solve this case. 53 00:03:35,790 --> 00:03:40,250 I was in the hospital just under a week. First time I saw Randy and Catherine 54 00:03:40,250 --> 00:03:44,430 after I got out of the hospital was they greeted me at their home. 55 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,840 At the front door, I made a short statement. 56 00:03:48,100 --> 00:03:51,720 They said absolutely nothing. They were very militaristic. 57 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,360 They had it so well planned that they needed to say almost nothing to each 58 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:57,360 other. 59 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,580 The house almost seemed under siege. 60 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:06,000 The front yard and the side yards were full of the media. 61 00:04:06,540 --> 00:04:08,980 Once Patty was kidnapped, the hearse... 62 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,580 home in hillsborough became a place that reporters went to every day in 63 00:04:14,580 --> 00:04:18,959 kidnappings you normally don't go to the media okay but in this case it became a 64 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:24,340 media frenzy right off the bat here at the hearst mansion in hillsborough the 65 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:27,960 phones in this home have been ringing almost constantly telegrams are also 66 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,240 coming in heavily but again not from the people whom the police and the hearst 67 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:36,080 desperately want to hear from there really isn't anything new 68 00:04:37,650 --> 00:04:38,870 You've all been wonderful. 69 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:44,370 We sit by the phones and we answer them and we just hope that whoever has our 70 00:04:44,370 --> 00:04:45,870 daughter will turn her loose. 71 00:04:46,090 --> 00:04:51,810 We don't know who they are. We don't know when we'll hear from them. 72 00:04:54,250 --> 00:04:56,570 They were controlled when they were on camera. 73 00:04:57,530 --> 00:05:00,470 And for the most part, they said the right things. 74 00:05:01,050 --> 00:05:05,530 Inside the house, it was a... 75 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:12,170 It was pretty dark and gloomy, a little bit of a roller coaster. 76 00:05:14,670 --> 00:05:17,690 The house was more like a command post. 77 00:05:17,910 --> 00:05:20,930 Before I got there, the FBI had already set up. 78 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:27,490 It's a measure of the influence of the Hearst family, that they don't go to the 79 00:05:27,490 --> 00:05:29,690 FBI, the FBI goes to them. 80 00:05:30,250 --> 00:05:34,830 It was frustrating. I didn't feel like the FBI were getting that far. 81 00:05:35,530 --> 00:05:39,390 Other than to say, yeah, we're working on it, we'll get her, we'll do this. 82 00:05:39,730 --> 00:05:44,450 We've got 67 agents on it, 104 agents, whatever it was. 83 00:05:49,290 --> 00:05:56,070 A few days after they kidnapped Patty Hearst, they issued a statement, 84 00:05:56,370 --> 00:05:58,430 communique, they called it. 85 00:05:58,730 --> 00:06:02,690 A letter from the Symbionese Liberation Army came in in the morning mail. 86 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,980 And basically the communique confirms that they are holding Patricia Hearst. 87 00:06:07,980 --> 00:06:13,660 United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army, armed with 88 00:06:13,660 --> 00:06:18,180 -loaded weapons, served an arrest warrant upon Patricia Campbell Hearst. 89 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:25,160 idea that Randy Hearst or anyone had to read the words of the SLA was 90 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,340 horrifying. But Randy was willing to do it. He was willing to do anything 91 00:06:29,340 --> 00:06:31,940 because he wanted to save his daughter's life. 92 00:06:32,810 --> 00:06:37,190 All communications from this court must be published in full in all newspapers 93 00:06:37,190 --> 00:06:39,090 and all other forms of the media. 94 00:06:39,870 --> 00:06:42,730 Failure to do so will endanger the safety of the prisoner. 95 00:06:43,050 --> 00:06:46,930 Our demands that they print all of our communiques and read them on the news. 96 00:06:47,150 --> 00:06:52,810 I mean, nobody's ever seen anything like this. The talking heads on the 6 o 97 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:57,890 'clock news are sitting there reading word for word these crazy -ass 98 00:06:57,890 --> 00:06:58,890 communiques. 99 00:06:59,100 --> 00:07:04,580 The hostage was not just Patricia Hearst, the whole media was the hostage. 100 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:09,340 Should any attempt be made by authorities to rescue the prisoner or to 101 00:07:09,340 --> 00:07:12,400 harm any SLA elements, the prisoner is to be executed. 102 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:20,140 And in capital letters under that is death to the fascist insect that preys 103 00:07:20,140 --> 00:07:21,200 the life of the people. 104 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. 105 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:29,520 I'm sure I'm not the only person who remembers that line. 106 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:36,720 It was crazy talk, but they took themselves seriously and they had Patty 107 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:51,180 I realized who they were because when they said that they were the SLA, they 108 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:53,520 already murdered Marcus Foster in Oakland. 109 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,440 And so everybody. 110 00:07:56,190 --> 00:07:59,710 knew what had happened, and everybody was really horrified by it. 111 00:08:00,410 --> 00:08:06,530 One of the most bizarre aspects of the Hearst kidnapping is that the kidnappers 112 00:08:06,530 --> 00:08:08,770 never really thought through their demands. 113 00:08:09,410 --> 00:08:15,470 You know, in some vague way, they wanted Joe Romero and Russ Little freed. 114 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:18,370 Well, the best case would be that they make an exchange. 115 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,020 It was hard to imagine with Nixon as president and Reagan as governor that 116 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:26,700 would ever happen. And as a matter of fact, they were very staunch in their 117 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,320 resolve not to cooperate with terrorists. 118 00:08:29,580 --> 00:08:32,340 What about the release of the two prisoners? Do you think that if it came 119 00:08:32,340 --> 00:08:34,760 that, that they should be released and exchanged for petty prison? 120 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,559 No, because I think if you ever start doing anything of that kind, you might 121 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:39,559 well open the prison doors. 122 00:08:39,659 --> 00:08:45,880 Where would it stop? You just would have signed a warrant, if you did that, that 123 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,900 would make kidnapping become a common occupation. 124 00:08:50,090 --> 00:08:56,850 I was put in a closet and blindfolded and being 125 00:08:56,850 --> 00:09:02,790 interrogated, insulted, just 126 00:09:02,790 --> 00:09:07,670 that over and over again. 127 00:09:09,350 --> 00:09:13,150 I mean, what would you do? You're in your apartment one minute, and the next 128 00:09:13,150 --> 00:09:16,770 minute you're in a closet, blindfolded for days on end. 129 00:09:18,349 --> 00:09:21,950 radical revolutionaries, the fear must have been overwhelming, absolutely 130 00:09:21,950 --> 00:09:22,950 overwhelming. 131 00:09:23,650 --> 00:09:24,650 Good evening. 132 00:09:24,910 --> 00:09:28,910 Patricia Hearst has sent her parents a message, and her captors have sent them 133 00:09:28,910 --> 00:09:30,830 unique and high -priced ransom note. 134 00:09:31,150 --> 00:09:35,530 There was a crowd outside Berkeley radio station KPFA as the morning mail was 135 00:09:35,530 --> 00:09:39,870 opened. There was a letter. Newsmen rushed in to hear it read on the air. 136 00:09:39,950 --> 00:09:44,330 while Mr. and Mrs. Hearst listened in their Hillsboro home, a tape recording 137 00:09:44,330 --> 00:09:45,330 played. 138 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:48,820 Mom, Dad, I'm okay. 139 00:09:51,220 --> 00:09:57,960 I had a few scrapes and 140 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,460 stuff, but they've washed them up and they're getting okay. 141 00:10:02,940 --> 00:10:06,460 I'm not being starved or beaten. 142 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:13,080 She was alive, obviously terrified, stressed out. 143 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:19,840 She was talking, but she was clearly, clearly terrorized and uncertain of her 144 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,840 situation. 145 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:23,300 She's sitting in the closet. 146 00:10:23,780 --> 00:10:26,740 DeVries was talking to her at this particular time. 147 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:33,120 We got the tape recorder, and she had to reveal that we were attending to her 148 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:37,600 needs. She wasn't being harmed, and she wanted them to cooperate with us. 149 00:10:39,619 --> 00:10:43,120 I'm not gagged or anything, and I'm comfortable. 150 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,820 And I think you can tell that I'm not really terrified or anything. 151 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:52,680 You know, I'm okay. 152 00:10:55,340 --> 00:10:57,540 We didn't anticipate having her for very long. 153 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,260 If she was in our company and we weren't wearing ski masks, then she was 154 00:11:02,260 --> 00:11:05,380 blindfolded. We didn't want her to see our faces because we were going to 155 00:11:05,380 --> 00:11:06,380 release her. 156 00:11:09,390 --> 00:11:15,230 I want to get out of here, but the only way I'm going to is if we do it their 157 00:11:15,230 --> 00:11:16,230 way. 158 00:11:17,070 --> 00:11:23,890 And I just hope that you'll do what they say, Dad, and just do it 159 00:11:23,890 --> 00:11:24,890 quickly. 160 00:11:29,210 --> 00:11:35,830 When the SLA finally did make a demand, it was very much the product 161 00:11:35,830 --> 00:11:42,080 of... the Indiana recruits, the theater people, because it was a theatrical 162 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,320 gesture that they were demanding. 163 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,160 I didn't want to hurt anybody. 164 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,640 We knew we could do those kind of Robin Hood -type actions, and that's what I 165 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,640 wanted to do. 166 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:57,020 My name is Sin Q, and to my comrades, I am known as Sin. 167 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:03,140 I hold the rank of General Field Marshal in the United Federated Forces of the 168 00:12:03,140 --> 00:12:04,680 Symbionese Liberation Army. 169 00:12:05,070 --> 00:12:09,670 As we became more organized, it was not unusual to adopt code names. 170 00:12:10,150 --> 00:12:11,990 DeVries called himself Thin Q. 171 00:12:12,470 --> 00:12:17,350 Before any form of negotiation for the release of the subject prisoner be 172 00:12:17,350 --> 00:12:22,570 initiated, let an action of good faith be shown on the part of the Hurst 173 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:28,550 This gesture is to be in the form of food to the needy and the unemployed, 174 00:12:28,550 --> 00:12:32,570 to which the following instructions are directed to be followed to the letter. 175 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:40,440 As a show of good faith, distribute $70 of food to basically everybody in 176 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:41,740 California that wants it. 177 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,500 To us, it signaled that she was in the hands of not a political group, but more 178 00:12:48,500 --> 00:12:49,920 like a Manson type of group. 179 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:53,760 Just flat out barking mad. 180 00:12:55,140 --> 00:12:58,660 I mean, look, some of the communiques sound relatively unsophisticated, but we 181 00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:01,760 didn't give a shit. We didn't give a shit about what rich people in the 182 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:02,729 government thought. 183 00:13:02,730 --> 00:13:08,350 We want to see how far we can motivate them to do what we want. We had the ace. 184 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:09,690 Morning. Morning. 185 00:13:10,710 --> 00:13:11,710 Morning. 186 00:13:15,170 --> 00:13:21,010 I think if I do what I can to distribute some food to poor people, I think this, 187 00:13:21,030 --> 00:13:25,610 I hope at least, they'll believe that I'm honest with them. 188 00:13:26,030 --> 00:13:27,470 That's as far as we can go. 189 00:13:29,070 --> 00:13:31,210 I had this terrible feeling that 190 00:13:32,069 --> 00:13:35,430 That's all I had asked for. What they probably didn't even realize was a $400 191 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:36,470 million demand. 192 00:13:37,370 --> 00:13:38,890 Randy was offering $2 million. 193 00:13:40,070 --> 00:13:46,770 Arrangements have been made for $2 million to be delivered to a tax -exempt 194 00:13:46,770 --> 00:13:52,470 charitable organization capable of making a distribution for the benefit of 195 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:53,470 poor in need. 196 00:13:53,690 --> 00:13:57,070 But I thought at least a few words should be said, because, you know, this 197 00:13:57,070 --> 00:13:59,570 not seem like what you asked for, but... 198 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,760 But this was a lot of money for us. He didn't have $10 million sitting around. 199 00:14:05,020 --> 00:14:07,900 He really didn't. That was a lot of money in those days. 200 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,880 He didn't want to be undressed by the SLA publicly. 201 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,080 Randy would have done anything to save her, but that was the one little piece 202 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,880 pride that he wanted to retain in all this. 203 00:14:22,260 --> 00:14:24,460 We disagreed. We disagreed about that. 204 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,700 And over a few drinks, sometimes it would turn into an argument, but we both 205 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,100 realized how difficult the situation is. 206 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:40,320 So the Hearths do a couple of things. They raise money, and they reach out to 207 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:45,380 Ludlow Kramer and Peggy Mays, who are already involved in the state of 208 00:14:45,380 --> 00:14:47,080 Washington in food distribution programs. 209 00:14:47,780 --> 00:14:52,200 Ludlow Kramer was our Secretary of State. He and I, prior to this, had 210 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:53,760 even though he was a Republican. 211 00:14:54,959 --> 00:14:57,740 Ludd and I flew down to meet with the Hurst family. 212 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,720 Within 24 hours, we were getting it started. 213 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:05,540 I wanted to get it done fast so that the SLA would know that we were acting in 214 00:15:05,540 --> 00:15:06,499 good faith. 215 00:15:06,500 --> 00:15:11,540 Hurst was truly afraid that his daughter was going to get killed if he did not 216 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:12,540 comply. 217 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,860 The SLA had been telling me over and over again that... 218 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:29,990 My parents didn't care about me, that the police didn't care about me, 219 00:15:30,110 --> 00:15:36,510 that the FBI didn't care about me. I believed that I had nowhere to go. 220 00:15:37,470 --> 00:15:44,210 If we think about Patty in this situation, she's being bombarded by this 221 00:15:44,210 --> 00:15:50,630 of individuals who are hardcore, dedicated Marxist revolutionaries, and 222 00:15:50,630 --> 00:15:52,190 going to be so... 223 00:15:52,770 --> 00:15:56,850 vulnerable to whatever is being fed to her, that it's really going to be hard 224 00:15:56,850 --> 00:15:59,550 for her to process that in any kind of rational way. 225 00:16:00,690 --> 00:16:06,850 He relatively quickly began to interact with the three comrades that were 226 00:16:06,850 --> 00:16:10,270 assigned to her, and that was Willie, Nancy, and Angela. 227 00:16:11,250 --> 00:16:13,010 She was a cooperative prisoner. 228 00:16:13,590 --> 00:16:20,410 She handled her situation admirably, and it caused us to have more respect for 229 00:16:20,410 --> 00:16:21,830 her than we thought that we would. 230 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:23,320 you know, have. 231 00:16:23,380 --> 00:16:27,120 Initially, Patty was afraid to eat in the first couple of days. 232 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:33,800 Sensing that Patty was afraid to eat, Angela said, let me eat first and then 233 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,380 take some food so that she would know that they weren't trying to poison her. 234 00:16:37,580 --> 00:16:39,640 Comrades explained to her why we were doing this. 235 00:16:40,060 --> 00:16:44,420 I'm sure she wondered if we were crazy in the beginning, but she knew we 236 00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:48,320 crazy after talking to people. She just understood that we were determined and 237 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,320 we weren't fooling around. 238 00:16:49,949 --> 00:16:54,050 and that we understood that our lives were in the balance, but that our 239 00:16:54,050 --> 00:16:56,290 were going to have an impact on other people's lives. 240 00:16:58,130 --> 00:17:03,310 They would give me a flashlight and literature, which I had to memorize and 241 00:17:03,310 --> 00:17:04,430 recite to them. 242 00:17:05,329 --> 00:17:10,810 I had to memorize what each one of the heads of the seven -headed cobra meant, 243 00:17:10,930 --> 00:17:15,390 because they were now interested in re -educating me, because that was the 244 00:17:15,390 --> 00:17:16,770 comradely thing to do. 245 00:17:19,210 --> 00:17:24,050 We needed her to be able to give some kind of perspective on us as a captive. 246 00:17:24,329 --> 00:17:27,349 You know, she wasn't going back without any knowledge about us. 247 00:17:28,069 --> 00:17:34,830 One of the many oddities of the SLA was that there were five women and 248 00:17:34,830 --> 00:17:37,990 three men in that little house. It was mostly women. 249 00:17:38,210 --> 00:17:42,510 And they were all self -professed feminists. 250 00:17:42,750 --> 00:17:48,450 And that dynamic of empowering women was something they talked about a lot. 251 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:53,840 And part of that for that group was also getting rid of monogamy. 252 00:17:54,060 --> 00:17:58,160 We had this relatively libertine perspective on sexuality. 253 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,320 I believe DeFries had had intimate relations with both Nancy and Ms. Moon. 254 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:08,400 Emily and I didn't perceive our marriage as a typical exclusive relationship. 255 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,160 Ms. Moon and Camilla had been lovers at one time. 256 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,780 Angela had been with Joe and Russ at the same time, but they weren't there. 257 00:18:18,990 --> 00:18:23,110 We didn't have rules, other than the fact that it was expected that comrades 258 00:18:23,110 --> 00:18:28,650 would be comradely. We all cared about each other. We had a lot in common now 259 00:18:28,650 --> 00:18:29,830 because we were wanted together. 260 00:18:30,130 --> 00:18:32,450 We were all crime partners in the same kidnapping. 261 00:18:34,270 --> 00:18:39,570 Patty is first being introduced to these ideas, the idea of revolution, the idea 262 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:41,390 of the selfishness. 263 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:42,740 of the upper class. 264 00:18:42,820 --> 00:18:48,520 And here were people telling her that women weren't second -class citizens, 265 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,260 they could be free human beings and make their own decisions. 266 00:18:51,980 --> 00:18:56,760 I can imagine that this would have been very attractive to her and got her to 267 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,440 think, oh, maybe their cause really is just. 268 00:18:59,820 --> 00:19:02,780 This is something I could do. This would give meaning to my life. 269 00:19:03,020 --> 00:19:06,440 She's going to get a political education because she's going back. 270 00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:09,080 That was what I expected to happen. 271 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:17,800 Dad, Mom, I'm making this tape to let you know that I'm still okay and 272 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,680 to explain a few things, I hope. 273 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:27,560 The darkest parts of the story that I remember were receiving the communiques. 274 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,760 The family gathered around, you know, there'd be complete silence. 275 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,060 First about the good faith gesture, just do it as fast as you can. 276 00:19:40,460 --> 00:19:42,380 And everything will be fine. 277 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,300 She does sound all right. 278 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:48,520 Doesn't mean she's out of danger, but at least we know she's all right for the 279 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:53,940 moment. She's still being told what to say. 280 00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:55,220 That's clear. 281 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:59,320 But it's a little more of her in it. 282 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,860 These were all her words. 283 00:20:01,300 --> 00:20:05,460 It was us giving her an idea of what we needed to communicate through her. 284 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,100 Okay, look, here's what you got to do. You got to let your family know that 285 00:20:09,100 --> 00:20:09,979 you're okay. 286 00:20:09,980 --> 00:20:14,380 I want them all to know that I'm okay and to understand that I'll be okay as 287 00:20:14,380 --> 00:20:16,760 long as the SLA demands are met. 288 00:20:17,020 --> 00:20:20,740 Let them know that you're not being harmed. You can tell them that you're 289 00:20:20,740 --> 00:20:25,640 held under the Geneva Convention and that this applies to our two comrades in 290 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,640 San Quentin. 291 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:33,340 I am being held as a prisoner of war and not as anything 292 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:36,920 else. I mean, and I'm being treated in accordance with international codes of 293 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:37,920 war. 294 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:43,180 I mean, Dad, you shouldn't listen or believe what anybody else says about the 295 00:20:43,180 --> 00:20:45,760 way I'm being treated. This is the way that I am being treated. 296 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:47,760 That sounds totally like her own words. 297 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:49,880 You know, I mean, that's not our words. 298 00:20:50,140 --> 00:20:54,160 That's not how we would say anything. It wasn't anything that she would be 299 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:55,340 adverse to saying anyway. 300 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,440 It's merely saying what's real. 301 00:20:58,220 --> 00:21:02,040 It's really important that everybody understand that, you know, I am an 302 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,040 and a warning. 303 00:21:04,140 --> 00:21:07,660 And because of this, it's very important to the SLA that I return safely. 304 00:21:08,650 --> 00:21:11,550 So people should stop acting like I'm dead. 305 00:21:12,950 --> 00:21:15,150 Mom should get out of her black dress. 306 00:21:15,690 --> 00:21:17,170 That doesn't help at all. 307 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:24,930 It was shocking to hear Patty's soft, whispery voice telling her mother, get 308 00:21:24,930 --> 00:21:26,790 of the black dress, and then I'm not dead. 309 00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:29,250 You shouldn't be in mourning. 310 00:21:29,710 --> 00:21:30,810 And there would be groans. 311 00:21:31,030 --> 00:21:36,210 Catherine would burst into tears, and she'd say, we're never going to see her 312 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:38,120 again. We're never going to save her. She's dead. 313 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,340 And Randy would say, Catherine, that's not the point. That's not the point. 314 00:21:43,580 --> 00:21:50,320 Try not to worry so much and just do what you can. And, I mean, I know you're 315 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,320 doing everything. 316 00:21:52,940 --> 00:21:53,360 Just 317 00:21:53,360 --> 00:22:00,860 take 318 00:22:00,860 --> 00:22:04,980 care of Steve and, you know, just hurry. 319 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,120 Bye. Every communique that would come out, I just had this obsessive need to 320 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:18,080 sort of tell myself what are the chances this is going to come out okay. And I 321 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:23,380 remember there were times when I would say, there isn't a 20 % chance she's 322 00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:24,380 going to get out of this. 323 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:26,420 It just seemed like it was hopeless. 324 00:22:28,340 --> 00:22:32,300 We didn't really want her life to be in jeopardy. That didn't advance our 325 00:22:32,300 --> 00:22:33,300 political goals. 326 00:22:34,350 --> 00:22:40,950 So what we did to demonstrate that she was not our enemy was we trained her 327 00:22:40,950 --> 00:22:44,870 on how to use a little shotgun. If we got in circles, she would have a shotgun 328 00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:50,450 and she would have been able to defend herself if cops came in and actually 329 00:22:50,450 --> 00:22:51,450 tried to kill her too. 330 00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:57,050 She's not a stereotypical Hollywood victim. 331 00:22:57,870 --> 00:23:00,290 I'm sure she's trying to calculate her next move. 332 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:09,040 Hundreds of phone calls and dozens of volunteers were coming in, offering 333 00:23:09,260 --> 00:23:13,520 time, and money to put into effect the food distribution plan the kidnappers 334 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:14,520 demanded. 335 00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:19,460 The SLA had required that the food be distributed to people who need it. 336 00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:21,300 why it was called People in Need as a program. 337 00:23:21,780 --> 00:23:26,740 And so the food is flowing into the China Basin, this enormous warehouse, 338 00:23:26,740 --> 00:23:28,840 millions of dollars worth of food they have to distribute. 339 00:23:29,220 --> 00:23:31,260 Over the period of time, there were hundreds of volunteers. 340 00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:36,060 I'm assigned to the warehouse, and so basically I'm a kind of glorified 341 00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:41,500 guard. I'm helping Ludlow and Peggy get some handle on all of this. 342 00:23:42,460 --> 00:23:49,080 People in need was and remains unprecedented in American history. A 343 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:55,740 crime leads to the creation of a social service agency almost overnight. And 344 00:23:55,740 --> 00:23:58,240 they really did start to give away food. 345 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,100 The things that I wanted to do were the things that would inspire people to 346 00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:08,420 understand that we get it why they're so broke and can't feed their kids. 347 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,760 That it has nothing to do with them and their particular limitations. 348 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,420 It has to do with an economy that doesn't give a rat's ass about them. 349 00:24:21,340 --> 00:24:24,340 Ronald Reagan was governor of California at the time. 350 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,120 And the press came to me and they said, 351 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:32,960 We'd like you to respond to something that the governor has just said to the 352 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,940 press. One of them read and he said, well, Governor Reagan said today that he 353 00:24:36,940 --> 00:24:39,540 hoped that anybody that took food from your program got botulism. 354 00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:46,220 And so I used a pejorative that started with M or F -er. 355 00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,460 What's your feeling about what Governor Reagan said? 356 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,860 Well, obviously if I agreed with him, I wouldn't be here today sending out the 357 00:24:54,860 --> 00:24:55,860 13 locations. 358 00:24:56,300 --> 00:25:01,800 The day that the People in Need program started, I was assigned to follow A. 359 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,420 Ludlow Kramer. He was staying at a downtown hotel in San Francisco, and I 360 00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:10,760 assumed I would meet him there, and we would immediately go to one of the 361 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:17,180 outlets. But we met, and he said he knew it was all going to go so smoothly, so 362 00:25:17,180 --> 00:25:18,460 he and I would have breakfast. 363 00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:24,580 And I remember he had eggs benedict, and meanwhile, there were riots. 364 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,300 that were occurring at the People in Need program. 365 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:39,180 What was on TV was bedlam. 366 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:44,920 The trucks, they're throwing food at the people standing in line, fish and eggs 367 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,460 and bread, and they were actually throwing it. 368 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,460 That's just the most disgusting thing I've ever seen, and it was... 369 00:25:53,660 --> 00:25:54,660 broadcast everywhere. 370 00:25:56,340 --> 00:26:01,700 The Hearst empire has attempted to mislead the people and to deceive them 371 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,740 claiming to put forth a good faith gesture of two million dollars. 372 00:26:05,820 --> 00:26:10,660 This amount is not at all a good faith gesture but rather is an act of throwing 373 00:26:10,660 --> 00:26:15,220 a few crumbs to the people forcing them to fight over it amongst themselves. 374 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:21,720 We agree with the need for Mr. Hearst to meet those those terms but just think 375 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,890 of the difference if If our people had said no to the kidnappers, we will not 376 00:26:26,890 --> 00:26:33,430 accept help on those terms. We will not accept help at the price of it being 377 00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:35,150 the life of a young girl. 378 00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:43,890 At some point, we provided Patricia with a small television and a radio so she 379 00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:48,910 could follow what was going on. So we didn't keep her in the dark about 380 00:26:48,910 --> 00:26:51,710 everything that was on the news about her kidnapping. 381 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,460 The SLA was obsessed with their own press coverage. 382 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:00,460 They watched it incessantly. They read the newspapers incessantly. 383 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:07,280 The SLA sees that the food giveaway has proceeded with problems, but it has 384 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,720 proceeded. So they say, let's do it again. 385 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,900 Randy had spent $2 million. They make another demand for an additional $4 386 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:15,900 million. 387 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,540 The plan proposed by Mr. Hearst. 388 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,040 is not at all acceptable as a gesture of good faith in its present form. 389 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:28,880 It shall be acceptable only that an additional $4 million be added to the $2 390 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,740 million already allotted, making a total of $6 million to be used for the 391 00:27:33,740 --> 00:27:34,740 purchase of food. 392 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,820 Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people. 393 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,720 I'd like to make a statement. 394 00:27:45,130 --> 00:27:49,850 The size of the latest demand of the SLA is far beyond my financial capability. 395 00:27:52,430 --> 00:27:55,350 Therefore, the matter is now out of my hands. 396 00:27:59,710 --> 00:28:06,650 Randy's dilemma is especially acute not only because his daughter is in 397 00:28:06,650 --> 00:28:11,130 mortal danger, but because the SLA thinks he has more money than he does. 398 00:28:11,950 --> 00:28:16,150 William Randolph Hearst set up his company so that professional managers 399 00:28:16,150 --> 00:28:21,130 always call the shots because he just didn't trust any of his sons to live up 400 00:28:21,130 --> 00:28:22,130 his example. 401 00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:27,990 In the 1970s, Randy Hearst's title was publisher of the San Francisco Examiner, 402 00:28:28,030 --> 00:28:31,650 which was really the flagship paper of the Hearst chain. 403 00:28:32,130 --> 00:28:38,310 In fact, he was only sort of the publisher. He was a figurehead, and he 404 00:28:38,310 --> 00:28:41,150 had to go to his keepers. 405 00:28:41,530 --> 00:28:46,650 in the Hearst world to get access to the kind of cash that the SLA is talking 406 00:28:46,650 --> 00:28:48,890 about. There were eight or ten board members. 407 00:28:49,190 --> 00:28:53,890 They weren't about to empty the coffers to maybe get Patty back. 408 00:28:54,450 --> 00:28:58,530 What's that going to tell all the other cousins and nephews? 409 00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:01,530 Everybody's going to be a kidnapping frenzy. 410 00:29:04,450 --> 00:29:06,730 When they blowballed, she went apeshit. 411 00:29:07,030 --> 00:29:09,790 She thought he totally understated. 412 00:29:10,380 --> 00:29:11,380 His ability. 413 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,560 That crushed her. That she thought that she had been abandoned by her father. 414 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,240 That she thought would always be there for her. 415 00:29:18,620 --> 00:29:23,280 And what occurred to her was that this was evidence that he was playing games 416 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,280 with her life. 417 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640 She just figured her father could do anything. 418 00:29:28,980 --> 00:29:35,640 The next communique, Patty's pretty angry. 419 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,040 Patty had... 420 00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:40,190 Dramatically changed. Something, something snapped. 421 00:29:50,210 --> 00:29:55,170 Mom, Dad, I've received the message you broadcast last Sunday. 422 00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:58,370 It was good to hear from you after so much silence. 423 00:29:58,670 --> 00:30:03,850 Your silence has definitely jeopardized my safety because it allows the FBI to 424 00:30:03,850 --> 00:30:05,530 continue to attempt to find me. 425 00:30:06,010 --> 00:30:10,370 and Governor Reagan to make antagonistic statements with no response from you. 426 00:30:11,090 --> 00:30:15,050 I don't know who influenced you to not comply with a good faith gesture. 427 00:30:15,610 --> 00:30:18,510 I know you could have done it the way the SLA asked. 428 00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:20,890 I mean, I know that we have enough money. 429 00:30:21,810 --> 00:30:25,930 I don't believe that you are doing everything you can, everything in your 430 00:30:26,170 --> 00:30:28,510 I don't believe that you're doing anything at all. 431 00:30:29,070 --> 00:30:32,950 You said that it was out of your hands. What you should have said was that you'd 432 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:34,070 wash your hands of it. 433 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,820 Randy, and this was about the only time I saw him slip where he said, Dad, it's 434 00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:44,100 out of my hands. It's just an unfortunate turn of phrase, and of 435 00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:45,200 pretty angry. 436 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Yeah, it was a slip -up, but we all had slip -ups. 437 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,080 Mom, I can't believe that you agree with the out -of -my -hand stance that Dad 438 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:57,859 has taken. 439 00:30:57,860 --> 00:31:01,740 I just wish that you could be stronger and pull yourself together from all 440 00:31:01,740 --> 00:31:02,980 emotional outbursts. 441 00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,690 and see if you can persuade that to listen to you and the rest of the 442 00:31:07,210 --> 00:31:12,430 She didn't sound as though she was someone who was the victim anymore. 443 00:31:13,790 --> 00:31:18,330 Over time, Patty, she developed a rapport and a relationship with the 444 00:31:18,330 --> 00:31:21,870 comrades that were dealing with her that was unusual for those circumstances. 445 00:31:24,290 --> 00:31:28,750 Willie spent a lot of time with her. Willie had the closest connection to her 446 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:30,570 anybody based on class background. 447 00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:36,340 And he spent a ton of time with her, introducing her to some of the writers 448 00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:37,340 had influenced him. 449 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:42,040 And Willie starts to explain to Patty why he's joined the SLA. 450 00:31:42,340 --> 00:31:46,580 And he starts giving her books to read. And he starts listening to her and 451 00:31:46,580 --> 00:31:52,100 talking to her in a way that's more like a peer than as a kidnapper. 452 00:31:52,700 --> 00:31:56,800 I realized that she developed an infatuation with Willie. 453 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,600 And finally, I think Angela asked her, is there anybody in the cell that she 454 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,640 wants to have sex with? And she said she'd like to have sex with Willie. 455 00:32:08,060 --> 00:32:12,680 And when Angela came back and revealed this to us, it caused a big uproar. 456 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:15,480 It was a huge fight from that point. 457 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:21,200 I didn't want Willie and Patricia, even if this was something that Patricia 458 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,760 wanted to do, to have sex. It wasn't Willie's idea. 459 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,260 I wasn't able to really wrap my mind around. 460 00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:30,980 why this was ever going to turn out to be a good thing. What happens after 461 00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,000 She's got to go home. We're going to release her to go home. 462 00:32:34,540 --> 00:32:40,060 In the end, more comrades than Emily and I agreed that they could have a sexual 463 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:41,860 encounter if they both wanted to have one. 464 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:47,080 And then they were given some privacy together, and that was it. 465 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,040 I think she found out what he looked like that night when they had that 466 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,260 encounter. I'm sure he had her take her blindfold off. So they abandoned the 467 00:32:56,260 --> 00:32:59,740 facade. Out in the world, is she going to say she wants to sleep with a guy 468 00:32:59,740 --> 00:33:01,280 she's only seen with a ski mask on? 469 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:06,120 Look, you know what I want to explain? There's one of those quirky things of 470 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,960 living in that kind of a circumstance. 471 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,200 It was unusual. 472 00:33:10,660 --> 00:33:12,280 It's exactly how it went down. 473 00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:17,800 Don't ask me to explain why it doesn't fit to your sense of what makes sense. 474 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,200 This is what fucking happened. 475 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:23,060 Most people that I know of, you included, never lived in that kind of a 476 00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:24,060 circumstance. 477 00:33:37,550 --> 00:33:39,210 The Bureau pulled out all the stops. 478 00:33:39,410 --> 00:33:42,590 These guys were doing everything that they could to find her. 479 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:49,050 Every law enforcement technique that could possibly be used, I think, was 480 00:33:49,050 --> 00:33:51,850 or attempted to be tried to one degree or another. 481 00:33:52,590 --> 00:33:54,130 They consulted a psychic. 482 00:33:54,390 --> 00:33:56,970 They consulted three more psychics. 483 00:33:57,230 --> 00:34:02,370 They listened to a prisoner who said, if you let me out, I'll find you Patricia 484 00:34:02,370 --> 00:34:05,810 Hearst. They let him out. He didn't find Patricia Hearst. 485 00:34:06,330 --> 00:34:10,530 Nobody really knew what to do. It's like even seeing the psychics. 486 00:34:11,070 --> 00:34:14,590 Everybody knew that wasn't going to work anywhere, but it was like, got to do 487 00:34:14,590 --> 00:34:15,590 something. 488 00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:22,810 Patricia, she's sitting there watching the spectacle from outside her home with 489 00:34:22,810 --> 00:34:27,190 all the knucklehead news people talking about shit, and also she doesn't really 490 00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:32,010 get the sense that her family has her well -being foremost in their minds, and 491 00:34:32,010 --> 00:34:33,909 her mother was just grossing her out. 492 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:40,040 One of the reasons we had targeted the family was Catherine's tenure as a 493 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,460 of the University of California. 494 00:34:41,780 --> 00:34:47,699 The regents, who was no friend of the students, thought they should behave, 495 00:34:47,699 --> 00:34:53,500 been an ongoing subject of discord and unhappiness ever since the free speech 496 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:56,239 movement. Catherine Hearst was tough. 497 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:02,800 She was a powerful figure in her own right who could help Ronald Reagan in 498 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:09,180 mission. to crack down on the student protesters and restore Berkeley to the 499 00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:16,020 orderly place it had been in the 1950s. After Perditch's kidnapping, she agreed 500 00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:20,320 to a reappointment by Governor Reagan, which is her way of flipping us off. 501 00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:27,240 I think Catherine's acceptance of reappointment, because it was so 502 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:32,280 slap at the SLA, really did have an impact on... 503 00:35:32,510 --> 00:35:37,730 Patty's relationship with the SLA and her growing alienation from her own 504 00:35:37,730 --> 00:35:38,730 family. 505 00:35:39,330 --> 00:35:41,250 Patricia about had a cow. 506 00:35:43,130 --> 00:35:44,470 That was the last straw. 507 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:59,020 Years ago, William Randolph Hearst defined his idea of a news story. 508 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:03,620 said, are interested in the fundamentals, love, romance, adventure, 509 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,300 mystery. The story of his granddaughter is all of that, especially mystery. 510 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,860 The mystery of where she is now. 511 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,000 She desperately did not want to go home. 512 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,560 I didn't want her to be with us. 513 00:36:24,540 --> 00:36:27,900 First of all, it wasn't safe for her to remain with us. You know, by this time, 514 00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:29,880 we're known. All of us are identified. 515 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,440 We're on the run right now. 516 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,380 If she could go home, she would be repatriated in one way or another. 517 00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:42,260 When we transported her to Golden Gate, the tide was turning to her staying. 518 00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:48,320 I don't remember why we left the house on Northridge other than we couldn't 519 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,320 afford it anymore. 520 00:36:49,530 --> 00:36:55,210 I mean, we went from a three -bedroom house in a suburb near the ocean to nine 521 00:36:55,210 --> 00:36:57,230 of us living in a studio apartment in the ghetto. 522 00:36:58,310 --> 00:37:03,730 One thing that appealed to the SLA about this apartment was that it was on 523 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:07,610 exactly the same street as the FBI office was. 524 00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:10,270 There's a very common principle, hide in plain sight. 525 00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:13,830 That seems to work more effectively than most people imagine. 526 00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:21,340 By the time we moved to Golden Gate, She goes from being a prisoner to already 527 00:37:21,340 --> 00:37:25,760 suggesting to the comrades that are dealing with her that she doesn't think 528 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,760 wants to go home. 529 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:31,240 She had to convince us that this wasn't some bullshit, that she was going to 530 00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:32,300 change her mind any second. 531 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,820 She was lobbying me when I finally talked to her. I'm one of the last 532 00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:37,820 that did it. 533 00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:42,100 You know, I just figured I could, if anybody can persuade her, it's me. 534 00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:44,200 I'm going to persuade her this is a dumb idea. 535 00:37:45,610 --> 00:37:49,150 I didn't see it as political theater. I thought this was some serious shit. You 536 00:37:49,150 --> 00:37:50,710 want to do this, you're probably going to die. 537 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:58,830 The FBI came, and he said, there's a new communique that has just come in, and 538 00:37:58,830 --> 00:38:03,230 it was Patty's voice. And Randy kind of, you know, took this deep breath. 539 00:38:04,930 --> 00:38:09,470 I would like to begin this statement by informing the public that I wrote what 540 00:38:09,470 --> 00:38:10,470 I'm about to say. 541 00:38:11,210 --> 00:38:12,290 It's what I feel. 542 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,860 I've never been forced to say anything on any tape. 543 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:24,140 There was a moment of truth when we had a meeting and we were out in the 544 00:38:24,140 --> 00:38:28,660 main room, the main room at Golden Gate, and she's blindfolded. 545 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,380 And we're all sitting around, none of us have ski masks. 546 00:38:33,740 --> 00:38:39,960 And the question is posed to her, you are now no longer a prisoner. We're 547 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,820 to release you somewhere. 548 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:43,820 that you agree to go. 549 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,980 We understand that you don't want to leave and you don't want to go home. So 550 00:38:47,980 --> 00:38:50,440 it's your choice. You can make the choice here and then. 551 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,160 Mom, Dad, I would like to comment on your efforts to supposedly secure my 552 00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,160 safety. 553 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,260 My mother's acceptance of the appointment to a second term as a UC 554 00:39:05,260 --> 00:39:10,650 you well knew, would have caused my immediate execution had the SLA been 555 00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:12,790 than together about their political goals. 556 00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:20,670 No one amongst us ever concluded before he brought it up that 557 00:39:20,670 --> 00:39:22,430 this was even a remote possibility. 558 00:39:24,780 --> 00:39:30,200 I have been given the choice of one, being released in a safe area, or two, 559 00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:35,680 joining the forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army and fighting for my 560 00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,700 and the freedom of all oppressed people. 561 00:39:38,220 --> 00:39:40,460 I have chosen to stay and fight. 562 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:42,620 And that was it. 563 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:43,820 Done deal. 564 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:52,040 I have been given the name Tanya after a comrade who fought alongside Che in 565 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:53,940 Bolivia for the people of Bolivia. 566 00:39:54,650 --> 00:40:00,030 It is in the spirit of Tanya that I say, patria muerte, venceremos. 567 00:40:02,110 --> 00:40:04,890 She had joined the SLA. 568 00:40:05,550 --> 00:40:11,790 It was as dramatic as hearing that she had been kidnapped. It completely 569 00:40:11,790 --> 00:40:18,290 everything. That was a terrible tape to hear. We could hear some real anger in 570 00:40:18,290 --> 00:40:19,990 her voice, real anger. 571 00:40:20,310 --> 00:40:22,090 But the... 572 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,740 The statement she was making that she really wanted to stay and fight just 573 00:40:26,740 --> 00:40:27,940 seemed absurd. 574 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:36,660 After Patricia was accepted into the cell, Willie presented her with a gift, 575 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,980 a stone artifact that he got in a dig in Mexico. 576 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,480 She wore it around her neck all the time. You know, she didn't take it off. 577 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:51,620 As much as I hated the idea of her joining us, it was spectacular 578 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,980 Now the heiress wants to join the kidnappers. 579 00:40:55,720 --> 00:41:00,600 Just by saying that she had decided to join us was only part of the equation. 580 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,400 You know, we had to prove that. 581 00:41:19,370 --> 00:41:22,110 There does seem to have been a profound change in her. 582 00:41:22,350 --> 00:41:26,090 And I don't believe that she's going to change her philosophy that quickly. 583 00:41:26,370 --> 00:41:29,650 Who would have thought that Patricia Hearst would be robbing a bank as a 584 00:41:29,650 --> 00:41:30,650 revolutionary act? 585 00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:33,590 She was ready to shoot anything that got in her way. She must have been forced 586 00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:35,890 to do it. She's a victim of thought control. 587 00:41:36,890 --> 00:41:38,650 LAPD, they were determined. 588 00:41:38,970 --> 00:41:43,010 This heiress is about to be murdered on live television. 589 00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:46,570 For those people who still believe that I'm brainwashed or dead. 590 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,320 We kidnapped a freak. 55902

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