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Patty Hearst turned her back on her life
of privilege.
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We had to prove that.
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The gun's loaded.
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I'm a soldier in the People's Army.
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She must have been forced to do it. She
could have escaped if she'd wanted to.
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He saved my life. I think she was
spectacular.
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We don't know where she is.
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LAPD, they were closing in. You know,
make our day.
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I did what I had to do.
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If she was in there.
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God willed it.
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The granddaughter of William Randolph
Hearst was abducted by two men and a
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in a bizarre kidnapping.
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No ransom note, no phone calls, no word,
nothing.
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The SLA is the people's army and we
fight in their interest.
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The FBI said the girl in the wig with
the automatic rifle was Patricia Hearst.
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Rich college girl turned armed terrorist
in a matter of weeks.
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Southern California's largest manhunt
continues.
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For someone my age, I've been through an
awful lot.
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We don't know where she is.
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Mom, Dad, I'm okay.
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Coming off now.
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The chopper is overhead observing. The
fire is raging. Now, we've got a better
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vantage point.
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And you can hear the officer. I don't
know if you can hear the officer yelling
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at us, but he just yelled that we are in
the line of fire. The police now are
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broadcasting to the people in the house
to cease fire. I can hear their
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megaphone.
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As soon as we turn on the TV, we see
cops scurrying around and we hear
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The area is still definitely sealed.
That automatic weapons fire is from...
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What we can gather here coming from a
police officer's weapon.
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There are more police now. This place is
getting, filling up with police.
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I remember her saying it one time.
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She thought she heard Willie's gun.
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She thought she identified Willie firing
back at them.
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She was in this, still in this badass
mode.
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We're trying to bring you these live
pictures as they occur.
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We're using the car here as the cover.
We thought all the other stations were
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competing with us for picture. We didn't
know we had the only exclusive picture
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from the scene and that we were starting
to share it with all the stations in
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the area and then across the country. So
we didn't know it.
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But we were ushering in a new age. We
were basically saying goodbye to the age
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of television news on film and hello to
the age of television news on
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videotape and live.
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There is still fire coming from inside
the Target house, which is across the
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street, as I said before, from us right
now. The house is burning and they're
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still shooting.
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But there was smoke everywhere, and we
couldn't see the house. And somebody
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said, hey, they're shooting out of the
crawl spaces.
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And so they had kicked out the floor
furnace and gone under the house.
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Two females exit the back of the house.
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Nancy Perry got out, and she had a gas
mask on. She had a gun in either hand,
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pistols. She was shot and killed.
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Camilla Hall was...
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just inside, and I know she was shot in
the head because I saw it. Then somebody
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drug her back inside, underneath.
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So we began to put rounds in the crawl
spaces, and they were all killed in the
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crawl spaces.
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And, of course, the obvious conclusion
is that the Los Angeles police have
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indeed found the nesting place of the
Symbionese Liberation Army, and there's
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not much left of it now.
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It was like 62 minutes from first to
last, you know, where we were giving the
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announcements and it didn't take long
once the house started on fire. That
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it. We just stood there and we were
just, you know, pretty
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shocked by how this whole thing ended.
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It was found that there was a can of gas
and it was bullet -ridden.
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Those tear gas grenades hit that puddle
of gas that was created by the gas can
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leaking, and that really caused a fire.
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Never seen anybody not try to escape a
fire.
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I think they were that committed, I
mean, or that crazy.
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We're watching this for a couple hours,
and really there's very little dialogues
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going on between us.
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There was really nothing to say.
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We all knew, and we didn't have to talk
about it, that what was happening before
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our eyes on the television was our
responsibility.
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That we got into this shit at Mel's
Sporting Goods Store and all of our
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subsequent escapades trying to stay a
little bit ahead of the police had
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them to end up being encircled.
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We realized it's our fault.
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I mean, it's really kind of on me. I'm
the one that got stopped coming out of
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the store.
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We will continue to monitor the scene
here and bring back reports to you as
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occur. It's getting too dark to get a
picture. This is Bill Diaz in South Los
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Angeles. For the history of Los Angeles
police, it is the longest, most intense
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shootout in the city's history.
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LAPD fired over 5 ,300 rounds.
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SLA fired.
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An estimated 3 ,000 or 4 ,000 rounds,
some of them were cookouts.
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83 tear gas canisters were fired by
LAPD. There were 18 weapons recovered
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the fire.
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Two pipe bombs were found unexploded in
the location
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after the fire.
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23 homes were damaged in the shootout.
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No police officers were shot and no
innocent bystanders were injured at all.
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The coroner arrived at the scene, and
they were looking at the bodies and
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to determine.
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Everybody wanted to know if Patty Hearst
was there.
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I actually had gone down to L .A. a few
days before to get away from it all.
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We heard a bulletin saying they had the
SLA cornered somewhere in Compton. I got
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in the car and drove up.
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We got there. The place was a smoking
ruins.
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You know, for a while it was
devastating. We had no idea who was
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Five bodies were found initially.
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The sixth body was not found until the
following day.
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When they recovered that body, everybody
thought that was Patty Hearst.
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And that's when everybody took a kind of
a breath like, my God, is it Patty? Was
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she really there?
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There were six SLA members inside the
house.
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Nancy Ling Perry.
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Camilla Hall, Patricia Soulstick, Willie
Wolf, Donald David
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DeVries, Angela Abbott.
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The news story became,
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where's Patty Hearst? What's happened to
her?
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Considering everything I've been through
up to that time in my life, throw
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Vietnam in.
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May 17, 1974 was the worst day of my
life.
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I don't remember truly what anybody
really did or what any of us said, other
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than the fact I remember that Patricia
wanted to retaliate immediately.
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She was devastated and angry.
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She loved somebody that had just been
murdered by the government.
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It was necessary to keep going, you
know, to stay alive.
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But I realized that, you know, we just
had to get the fuck out of L .A. We had
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to live to fight another day.
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FBI agents and California police hunted
for Patricia Hearst today as an armed
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and extremely dangerous fugitive.
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With few resources, little money, we had
to figure out what we were going to do
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next. We realized that our only option
was to go back to where we just escaped
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from.
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But we had to wait a while. We waited
about two weeks.
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We picked up Memorial Day.
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It's going to be a lot of people on the
road. It's going to be more difficult
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for them to isolate us in that traffic.
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We had just bought a car.
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Kind of an old car that Patricia laid
down on the back seat because they're
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looking for three people.
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We request that citizens assessing any
information relating to the
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whereabouts of these badly wanted,
armed, and extremely dangerous
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Patricia Hearst, William Harris, and
Emily Harris, immediately contact the
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You know, we had hundreds of agents
covering leads. They were looking at
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lots, stolen vehicle reports, anything
unusual.
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At the end of the day, after the
shootout in Los Angeles, it's as though
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disappeared.
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As always with the SLA, they are drawn
ultimately to Berkeley because they feel
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that's the only place that they can find
any sort of support.
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And we get down into the hay and the
panhandle, and the car just dies.
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We happen to be right in front of the
house of some people that we know.
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We knock on the door, and they come to
the door, and they go, oh, shit, we
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believe it.
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The FBI just left here, man.
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Next morning, they fed us, and they gave
us a bunch of cash that they had from
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their savings.
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Emily found us a place in East Oakland,
and we got to get to the East Bay.
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We don't have a car. We have to ride
Muni now together, public transport.
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are buses and trolleys.
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Emily left her shotgun with me and her,
so between us, we had one of those big
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shopping bags, and it was long enough to
keep all the weapons in.
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It looked better for this woman to be
carrying the big shopping bag, so hers
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carrying a heavy thing.
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I mean, I remember thinking about it. It
was funny. We're riding, here we are,
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riding the San Francisco Muni, bag full
of guns.
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in the vicinity of where we had the
Golden Gate safe house.
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It's insane, this crazy shit. We had a
unique capacity for survival.
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We had to try to, you know, get some
people to help us out, and we needed to
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some money without having to rob banks
to do it. We didn't need any more drama
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that we couldn't deal with because we
were down to three people.
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Thank you, Willie, Camilla, Miss Moon,
and Bahisa.
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were viciously attacked and murdered by
500 pigs in L .A. while the whole nation
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watched. There was one political rally,
and it was at Berkeley, and it was
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organized and hosted by a woman named
Kathy Solia. Kathy Solia
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was an actress, and she was Angela
Atwood's best friend.
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We saw Kathleen Sawyer's picture in the
newspaper while she was giving a
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memorial for Angela and the rest of the
comrades that died.
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Kathy, I had met through Angela, and I
knew her a little tiny bit.
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Normally, she would have not been a
person that I would look up because
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was too much of a connection in the
recent past with Angela.
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But we were desperate.
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We ended up having this meeting with
her.
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Kathy brought Jim, her boyfriend, and I
think her sister, Josephine, was with
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her.
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She wanted to help us. She wasn't afraid
that we were going to get her in
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trouble. They gave us enough money to
keep us going for a minute.
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Bill, Emily, and Patricia are like
hunted animals.
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They are running from the law, running
from what they regard as certain death.
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But they have one thing they want to do.
They want to memorialize the six of
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their comrades who died.
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At approximately 6 .30 this morning, the
radio station received an anonymous
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call stating in effect that the SLA had
a communique for us.
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The SLA ceased to exist after everybody
got killed.
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The people that helped us stay alive
were not in the SLA.
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The SLA was murdered.
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We had to kind of send a last
communique, and we had to eulogize our
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And Patricia, she wanted to do the
eulogies.
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Greetings to the people.
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This is Tanya.
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I want to talk about the way I knew our
six murdered comrades, because the
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fascist pig media has, of course, been
painting a typically distorted picture
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these beautiful sisters and brothers.
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Cujo was the gentlest, most beautiful
man I've ever known.
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We loved each other so much.
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Neither Cujo or I had ever loved an
individual the way we loved each other.
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Probably because our relationship wasn't
based on bourgeois fucked -up values,
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attitudes, and goals.
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It's because of this that I still feel
strong and determined to fight.
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I was ripped off by the pigs when they
murdered Cujo.
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The pigs probably have the little old
-neck monkey that Cujo wore around his
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neck.
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She exactly described him as he was, as
she encountered him.
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Now she talks about Sinque.
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Sinque loved the people with tenderness
and respect.
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He helped me see that it's not how long
we live that's important. It's how we
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live. What we decide to do with our
lives.
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I died in that fire on 54th Street.
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But out of the ashes I was reborn.
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I know what I have to do.
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While I have no death wish, I have never
been afraid of death.
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For this reason, the brainwashed arrest
theory of the pig hearths has always
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amused me.
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And I would never choose to live the
rest of my life surrounded by pigs like
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hearths.
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Death to the fascist insect that preys
upon the life of the people.
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We got nothing.
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We had no other option.
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Kathy said to us that there was a
possibility she could hook us up with a
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of hers named Jack Scott, and I realized
exactly who she was talking about.
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But I had never met him. I only knew
that he was the sports editor for
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magazine.
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The first time I heard about the
Symbionese Liberation Army, Jack and I
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moved to New York.
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It was in the media.
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It was very fascinating, especially
since we had lived in Berkeley for so
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And then the massacre in L .A. happened.
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Jack's first response was, I want to
write a piece. I want to write a story
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about who these people are.
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These are America's children.
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Jim Kilgore and Kathy Salaya were a
couple at the time. And they came to him
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said, we think we have some people that
you might be interested in meeting.
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So Jack comes out to Berkeley, and they
blindfolded him and drove him around for
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a while.
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And then they ended up in this apartment
up in North Berkeley.
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They took the blindfold off, and he was
sitting there with three very wanted
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people, lots of ammunition, and not much
else.
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And he, you know, he breaks into a huge
grin.
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His first response was, I really would
like to tell your story.
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And they said, that's not going to do us
any good. We have to get out of here.
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Jack sold us on his ability to get us
out of the state. He didn't give us the
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details at the time, but he said he had
the resources to do it. That's all we
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wanted to hear.
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Jack insisted that if we were going to
be transported across the country, we
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couldn't bring any firearms.
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I'm not going to put my family at risk.
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there will be no guns. And that was a
huge argument.
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And we struggled over that with him a
little bit. We didn't have any real
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standing. We were pretty much at his
mercy. He was taking care of us, right?
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The original plan was just to get us to
the East Coast.
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Jack's idea was that he would contact
his parents who were in the area, and he
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and Patty could ride with his mom and
dad.
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as a couple sitting in the back seat.
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Jack Scott's father, John, is driving.
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Right before the four of them get on the
highway, he pulls over to the side of
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the road and he says, Patty, listen to
me.
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I'll take you anywhere you want to go.
You don't have to do this. You can just
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go home.
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And Patty Hearst looks at John Scott and
says, get the fuck on the road and
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start driving.
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So he got back on the freeway and headed
east.
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A few days later, Jack and Patty show up
in New York, and there they were.
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I think I probably was a little
starstruck. My recollection is that she
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serious. She was on a mission.
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And she would have me go out and get her
coffee in the New York Times every
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morning because, of course, she couldn't
leave the apartment. And she would be
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by herself for that, however long it
take me, half an hour.
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I'd go out and come back and she would
sit in the living room with her pen and
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she would circle names in the New York
Times.
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And when I asked her what she was doing,
she was adding names to their hit list
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or to the SLA hit list.
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And she didn't appear to be afraid. She
was pretty intent on getting back, you
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know, on continuing on with the
revolution.
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Jack went back out and got Bill.
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And another friend of ours had gone out
to get Emily.
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I had found a lovely little farmhouse
not very far from where Jack was born
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grew up.
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They had rented the farmhouse in
Pennsylvania.
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We're not going to be expected to be in
the area of grad and PA.
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None of us have a connection to it.
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It's a good choice.
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It was big enough to not have neighbors
around.
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We cooked together. We ate together.
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We had conversations.
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We recovered from the stress of being on
the run like we were.
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We had a lot of space to roam around in.
Here we could go off and be by
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ourselves.
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They were traumatized, I think. I mean,
they had watched their friends and
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comrades be murdered live on television.
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From my perspective, to take a risk to
save lives is a risk worth
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taking. I can't imagine how I would feel
if I didn't do it.
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Jack had helped Wendy Yoshimura leave
the Bay Area when she was wanted. He
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her to come live with us for a while.
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She hit it off with Patty from the
beginning.
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In 1974, I was working in San Francisco
PD cases where somebody had fled across
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the state line.
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Wendy Yoshimura, her boyfriend, had a
guy by the name of Willie Brandt who had
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been arrested and convicted of a bombing
in Alameda County.
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She was being charged as an accomplice.
And so she took off.
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When I was assigned the Wendy Yoshimura
case, we had no information that
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she was associated with the Hearst
investigation until we got a teletype
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lead in from New Jersey where Wendy
might be located.
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At some point in there, Jack's talking
about a book and making it clear that,
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you know, the money that's supporting us
is going to soon run out and maybe this
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will be a way to get some resources at
some point.
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Jack, he was like a bulldog, you know,
when he had an idea of how something
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would be, should be.
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He could be like, he wouldn't let go of
it. It was really not about making
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money. It was about getting the story
out, trying to get people to understand.
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why they were doing what they were
doing. He knew that this was probably an
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interesting book. Why would middle
-class, educated white people pick up
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and wage revolution against the
government in ways that would probably
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killed? What would motivate them to do
such a crazy thing?
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We had a friend. He came to the
farmhouse. He was doing tapes towards
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this book. We took turns transcribing
the tapes.
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Patty Hearst writing.
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her revolutionary statement. She did a
lengthy document where she talked about
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her life and how she felt about her
parents and Willy Wolf.
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She is, as in her own words, a radical,
a revolutionary feminist, someone who
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believes in world revolution.
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I started to feel that this was never
going to be beneficial to us. And in the
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end, I didn't like what we created.
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It just sounded hokey.
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And we wouldn't give him the manuscript.
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We destroyed the tapes.
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And that really pissed Jack off.
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I think there was a lot of conflict
around that.
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Jack Scott, who's a real journalist,
starts to recognize that there's no book
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coming out of this. And he's stuck now.
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with these fugitives in his farmhouse.
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I know there was a single moment when
Jack said, I'm done, and left, and
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wouldn't go back to the farmhouse.
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I think Jack was a little bit afraid of
us anyway.
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The fact of the matter is we had a
falling out and we had to leave.
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And I was like, okay, and that was it.
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The group has to figure out where to go.
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And they reached back out to Kathy
Solia.
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And we were like, going back to
California is just crazy.
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But they were adamant that that's where
their army was and that's where they had
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to go.
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He had agreed to take Patty as far as
Las Vegas, but he said, I'm not taking
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into California.
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That's insane. And Bill and Emily,
you're on your own figuring out how to
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back.
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Jack and Patty were in the van and Jack
got pulled over and she was disguised as
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a pregnant woman.
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At one point in their travels, Jack
Scott and Patty Hearst were stopped for
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speeding by an Iowa State trooper.
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She could say, oh, by the way, officer,
I'm Patty Hearst. Take me in. I want to
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surrender. And Patty Hearst says
nothing.
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Scott quickly jumped out of his van and
started gabbing with the trooper about
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Iowa's upset football victory that day
over UCLA.
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The report says the trooper smiled, put
away his ticket book, and drove off
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without ever seeing Miss Hearst in the
van.
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Jack Scott drives Patty Hearst to Las
Vegas.
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And he leaves her in a motel there. And
for two days, she is on her own.
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She could surrender. She could leave.
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But instead, she waits for one of the
team.
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In this case, Jim Kilgore takes her from
Las Vegas to Sacramento.
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Emily and I took a train all the way
across to go to Sacramento.
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The comrades who were going to help us
get set up, they decided Sacramento was
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reasonable location that they probably
wouldn't look for us there. In
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Sacramento, there's a new cast of
characters.
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Wendy Yoshimura, Kathy Solia, Steve
Solia, Josephine Solia, Jim Kilgore, and
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Mike Borden, a very excitable member of
the group, joins them in Sacramento.
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Mike Borden is a little bit of a wild
man.
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First time I met Mike.
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He talked about wanting to do an
operation while on LSD.
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I had nothing to do with Patty Hearst
being kidnapped, although it may be one
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the few things I wouldn't mind taking
credit for.
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I didn't meet Patty Hearst until the
three of them came back from
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hiding out in the country.
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She had a pretty vivacious personality.
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She used to call Bill Little Hitler.
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That tells you a lot right there.
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Mike and I butted heads.
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You know, we never got in... I think we
had a good shoving match one time.
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Now that I think about it. We were just
hiding them out.
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We didn't agree with their philosophy,
but they were being hunted like animals.
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Kathy, she got Jim Kilgore and...
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Steve involved.
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Steve Sully is Kathy Sully's younger
brother.
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He even wasn't radical per se. He was a
progressive -minded person. He was a
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pretty low -key, easy -going guy.
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Patty Hearst and Steve Sully develop a
relationship.
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And they wind up living together for
quite some time.
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They fall in love.
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And it's just an illustration of how she
has become part of the group.
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We took this lawyer up to meet them
because hopefully we're going to try to
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him to Cuba.
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So right in the middle of it, Patty
says, I'll see you guys later. I'm going
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go get some stuff at the store.
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And he's like, he's like in shock. Like,
I thought she was brainwashed. I
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thought she was kidnapped. You know,
like, what the fuck?
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She was superhero.
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You know, I mean, you can't help it. I
mean.
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This little tiny girl with the big
machine gun and giving up all that
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I mean, what can you say? How many
people have been in that situation, you
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How can you not love someone like that?
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There was this one day in the park.
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She's sitting up there, clearly a
mixture of different emotions. That's
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makes it so interesting.
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She says, well, you know, sometimes I
wish someone would just...
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snatch me again, take me to New York or
something, get out of this shit.
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Since I cannot mail you a letter, Patty,
I'm reading this over the air and
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hoping and praying that it will reach
you.
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My darling Patty, Christmas is almost
upon us again, and I'm sure you must
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realize... our agony as we face the
possibility of a Christmas without you.
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Dad and I find it too painful to
continue living here with so many
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you and are moving to an apartment in
the city in a few months.
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I spend many hours a day praying that
God will inspire you to come back to us,
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hopefully at Christmas, with all our
love, Mother.
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The FBI was doing anything they could to
attempt to locate these people, and
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they were not being successful.
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They were living under assumed names.
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They were renting multiple apartments
under assumed names.
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They were making it almost impossible
for us to find them. These people really
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knew what they were doing.
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What had happened was we had developed
information that Wendy Yoshimura's
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fingerprints had been found in
Honesdale, Pennsylvania, in a farmhouse.
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And we'd received the information from a
gentleman by the name of Walter Scott.
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Jack's brother was a very troubled man.
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And he was drunk and went into the FBI
office and said, hey.
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I think Patty Harris was in this
farmhouse.
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We wiped down the entire house.
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Every surface got cleaned with bleach
and cleaners.
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They ended up finding inside of a
mattress a piece of newspaper that had
432
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,600
fingerprint on it.
433
00:30:25,940 --> 00:30:31,340
And what really had happened was, one
night when we were still there, she woke
434
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:33,300
up in the middle of the night and...
435
00:30:33,550 --> 00:30:38,790
There's a big spider on her bed and she
freaked out and she tore up the bedroom
436
00:30:38,790 --> 00:30:42,050
looking for the damn spider again. Got
us all in there looking. We're all
437
00:30:42,050 --> 00:30:43,930
looking for a spider. Nobody can find a
spider.
438
00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:48,390
She picks up the mattress and underneath
the mattress she sees there's a little
439
00:30:48,390 --> 00:30:50,690
quarter -sized hole in the bottom of the
mattress.
440
00:30:50,930 --> 00:30:55,510
She figures that the only possible place
the spider could have disappeared to is
441
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:57,450
inside that hole underneath the
mattress.
442
00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:01,210
And so she wadded up a piece of
newspaper and pushed it up inside.
443
00:31:03,310 --> 00:31:06,430
So that was pretty thorough. I thought
that was pretty good. I gave him a point
444
00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:07,430
for that one.
445
00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:12,130
That tied the Hearst case to Wendy.
446
00:31:13,170 --> 00:31:15,750
And that's when the case was assigned to
me.
447
00:31:16,590 --> 00:31:22,190
This case is wound down from being the
number one priority case in the FBI.
448
00:31:22,450 --> 00:31:25,990
So it's gone from hundreds of agents and
we're down now to four.
449
00:31:27,770 --> 00:31:34,430
They know Wendy Yoshimura is the ex -
girlfriend of a bomber who is in
450
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:39,750
prison named Willie Brandt. And they see
that she has visited Willie Brandt in
451
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:46,590
prison. They also see that some of the
soleus have visited Willie Brandt in
452
00:31:46,590 --> 00:31:47,590
prison.
453
00:31:47,810 --> 00:31:54,290
And it's through this that the FBI
begins to identify the cell, the group
454
00:31:54,290 --> 00:31:57,350
is now sheltering Patty Hearst in
Sacramento.
455
00:31:58,820 --> 00:32:02,520
Jack and Mickey Scott had been
underground. They stayed underground,
456
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,520
they decided to become public.
457
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:10,780
They said they would not cooperate with
the FBI trying to find the SLA.
458
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:15,700
So the FBI couldn't get any information
because nobody would talk to the FBI.
459
00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:21,680
For me, it was relatively easy to find
these people and talk to them, and they
460
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,680
would all talk to me.
461
00:32:24,010 --> 00:32:26,190
All I'd have to say is I'm writing for
Rolling Stone.
462
00:32:26,410 --> 00:32:28,350
It really wasn't very difficult to get
sources.
463
00:32:29,450 --> 00:32:32,090
Everyone wanted to be in Rolling Stone
one way or the other.
464
00:32:32,570 --> 00:32:35,510
And I think we had 33 sources by the
time we published.
465
00:32:35,770 --> 00:32:37,550
No, we know that most of that came from
Jack.
466
00:32:37,910 --> 00:32:43,150
He'd like given information that made it
available to the FBI about intimate
467
00:32:43,150 --> 00:32:46,750
details of his harboring us without
claiming that it was him.
468
00:32:46,950 --> 00:32:48,570
Jack Scott was the primary source.
469
00:32:49,050 --> 00:32:52,430
Jack sat down with Howard and me and
started telling us everything he knew.
470
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,340
And it seemed like it was his way of
getting back at us for us not letting
471
00:32:57,340 --> 00:32:58,640
have the materials, right?
472
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:05,220
The FBI called us up and said, give me
part two before you publish or we're
473
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:06,440
going to cut you off at the knee.
474
00:33:07,260 --> 00:33:12,280
After we hid out, our lawyer got in
touch with Randolph Hurst and set up
475
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,300
dinner at his house.
476
00:33:14,580 --> 00:33:18,360
He was totally accepting of her having
joined the group.
477
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,100
He said she's been a rebel her whole
life.
478
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,320
And it didn't surprise him.
479
00:33:24,500 --> 00:33:29,920
And I said, you know, she was upset
about her mother accepting the
480
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,820
to the Board of Regents when she was a
kidnap victim. And he said, yeah, I
481
00:33:34,820 --> 00:33:36,540
didn't know she was going to do that.
482
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,480
He said, that really made me angry. He
said, I'm going to get rid of the
483
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,480
when this is over.
484
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,780
He came across as a father who was
really distressed about his daughter.
485
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,100
Do you think anything can be done to
help her to surface?
486
00:33:55,060 --> 00:33:59,400
No, I think if she services, she'll
surface because she wants to come back.
487
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,400
I hope she does. I hope she comes back
that way.
488
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:09,780
It seemed with all the fanfare and all
the support for Patty Hearst that there
489
00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:13,679
would be money flowing in, but it didn't
happen, not in the slightest.
490
00:34:14,020 --> 00:34:18,020
The only cash we had was what I got from
painting.
491
00:34:18,570 --> 00:34:21,949
houses down there while they were
plotting.
492
00:34:22,350 --> 00:34:23,770
It was a tough existence.
493
00:34:24,409 --> 00:34:30,949
So we started having discussions about
expropriation again.
494
00:34:32,449 --> 00:34:36,130
Really, no one wanted to be involved in
crime.
495
00:34:36,389 --> 00:34:38,889
They wanted to be involved in political
activities.
496
00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:43,929
And all of a sudden, everything being
done is criminal shit.
497
00:34:44,870 --> 00:34:46,550
We needed a bank without...
498
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:48,460
Electronic security systems.
499
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:53,760
The Crocker National Bank in Carmichael,
California, was selected.
500
00:34:55,159 --> 00:35:01,000
People let bravado take over and didn't
501
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:07,820
ask themselves enough, are we ready for
something like this?
502
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,680
Do we have the calmness under pressure
to do something like this?
503
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,140
And the answer was no.
504
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,860
Yeah, April 21st, 1975.
505
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,540
It was a Monday morning.
506
00:35:22,860 --> 00:35:24,880
I had just turned 15.
507
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:28,520
I woke up about 4 o 'clock that morning
to get my homework done.
508
00:35:29,540 --> 00:35:33,620
And I couldn't find a pen in the house
that worked anywhere.
509
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,740
And I was angry with my mom for not
having a good supply of pens in the
510
00:35:38,740 --> 00:35:39,740
for me to use.
511
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,520
I remember her promising, I'll be sure
to pick up more pens.
512
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,180
She was a church clerk.
513
00:35:47,259 --> 00:35:53,100
and one of a group of women that would
count the weekend offerings and take
514
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:54,760
into the bank every Monday morning.
515
00:35:56,940 --> 00:36:00,180
Crocker National Bank, it had a perfect
setup.
516
00:36:00,500 --> 00:36:01,500
So it was ideal.
517
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,580
And we struggled, if anything, we
struggled on who was going to go in.
518
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,700
Everybody wants to go in, maybe, you
know what I mean? Everybody wants to be
519
00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,000
one doing this. So then we had a big
discussion.
520
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:15,720
Well, naturally, I should be leader
because I was cool as a cucumber,
521
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,460
No, we have to have the woman doing it.
We have to make a statement and all
522
00:36:20,460 --> 00:36:21,480
that. Fuck that.
523
00:36:21,780 --> 00:36:23,520
Emily's never been in a bank before.
524
00:36:23,780 --> 00:36:26,320
In the end, we decided two men and two
women would go in.
525
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:29,280
Jim, Mike, Emily, and Kathleen.
526
00:36:30,700 --> 00:36:33,220
Steve and I would be in a backup car.
527
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,740
Patty was in a third car with Wendy.
528
00:36:40,130 --> 00:36:44,990
My day started on April 21st, 1975, just
like any other day. When the bank
529
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:48,910
opened at 10 o 'clock, we opened up the
doors. I went back to my counter.
530
00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:54,050
In fact, I believe one of the SLA
members held the door open for my mom
531
00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:58,130
other two women to go in ahead of them.
And so there's three of them, and she
532
00:36:58,130 --> 00:37:02,870
was carrying this big, heavy, old -style
calculator.
533
00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:07,950
Next thing you know, they're screaming
at the back door.
534
00:37:09,390 --> 00:37:13,650
My mom had this big adding machine in
her hands and wanted to set it down on
535
00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:19,790
counter. Emily, she had taken the safety
off of her shotgun and it discharged.
536
00:37:21,390 --> 00:37:27,130
That split second of an instant, Mrs.
Opsowell shot with a 12 -gauge shotgun
537
00:37:27,130 --> 00:37:29,850
from about six or seven feet from me.
538
00:37:30,570 --> 00:37:32,290
And Emily was so nervous.
539
00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:35,210
That's why she did it. She was so
fucking nervous.
540
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:42,390
People were screaming, yelling, cussing
at us, pistol -whipping people, jumping
541
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:43,390
over counters,
542
00:37:43,990 --> 00:37:46,010
cocking shotguns at the back of our
head.
543
00:37:46,830 --> 00:37:50,390
You motherfuckers better put your heads
in the dirt or we're going to blow your
544
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:51,510
motherfucking heads off.
545
00:37:51,890 --> 00:37:56,610
There was a young woman there that was
pregnant that they beat her up and she
546
00:37:56,610 --> 00:37:57,610
lost her baby.
547
00:37:59,930 --> 00:38:05,770
And I remember putting my hand over my
mouth so I wouldn't...
548
00:38:06,460 --> 00:38:10,020
subconsciously or otherwise, wouldn't
allow any sound to come out.
549
00:38:12,980 --> 00:38:14,660
And then it was over.
550
00:38:17,060 --> 00:38:22,980
I remember going to the kitchen and
getting towels to try to pack Mrs.
551
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:23,980
wounds.
552
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,420
We put the towels on her body.
553
00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:41,120
It just went through her.
554
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,100
And so we knew there was nothing that
could be done. We just sat with her
555
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:49,100
they came.
556
00:39:00,820 --> 00:39:05,500
And after they took her away, we cleaned
up the blood that was left on the
557
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:06,500
floor.
558
00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:08,920
We couldn't just leave the mess.
559
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:13,880
And there was nobody there to take care
of it but us.
560
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,560
The mother of four was killed.
561
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:21,520
We killed her.
562
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:26,260
Fuck.
563
00:39:27,580 --> 00:39:28,880
Fuck, fuck, fuck.
564
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,560
My dad actually was a surgeon.
565
00:39:37,310 --> 00:39:41,810
I found out later that he had been one
of the doctors that tried to resuscitate
566
00:39:41,810 --> 00:39:46,370
her when they brought her in and was the
last to step away. And I think one of
567
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:53,050
them kind of had to insist that he stop
because he
568
00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:54,050
wouldn't on his own.
569
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:56,370
Couldn't imagine having to do that.
570
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,760
For the first few days after my mom was
murdered and up until the funeral,
571
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,380
things were really in a fog. It was just
in a state of shock.
572
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,480
Patty was driving the getaway car.
573
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:31,080
And according to the felony murder roll,
anybody who is a participant in a
574
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,060
felony and there is a murder, they're
also...
575
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,780
responsible for that murder.
576
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,820
From April 21st, 1975, we've all lived
with the death of Myrna Hobson.
577
00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:46,520
It being an accident doesn't change
anything.
578
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,340
It didn't change anything about what I
was doing. It didn't alter my path.
579
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,240
It didn't do that for any of us.
580
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:10,820
It made us all amazingly introspective,
but we came to the same conclusion. We
581
00:41:10,820 --> 00:41:11,820
had to carry on.
582
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:27,760
Like many 19 -year -olds, she's open to
the sense of adventure.
583
00:41:28,020 --> 00:41:29,460
Not skiing in Switzerland.
584
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:30,980
This is not skiing in Switzerland.
585
00:41:31,420 --> 00:41:36,360
56 days in the closet turned her into an
urban gorilla.
586
00:41:36,660 --> 00:41:42,700
Patty Hearst places a bomb under a
police car. We were clearly outgunned.
587
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:43,940
knew we were in for a fight.
588
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Said, I'm going to kill her if you don't
come back. Did the daughter of an
589
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,420
American millionaire turn revolutionary?
590
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,140
And if so, why?
591
00:41:51,500 --> 00:41:54,200
It may be called the trial of the
century.
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