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Thank you.
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We are in the grips
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of a massive global crisis,
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and you are leaving it to children
to clean up your mess!
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Schoolchildren have
today ditched the classroom
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to take to the streets
over climate change.
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They’re calling
for the prime minister to be sacked
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and for an immediate departure
from fossil fuels.
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Ho, ho!
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ScoMo has got to go!
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Hey, hey, ho, ho!
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More than 11,000 scientists
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from around the world
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have issued a warning today
declaring a climate emergency.
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Australia’s seen
both the warmest
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and the driest year on record.
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There are also
warnings out this morning
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for the impending bushfire season,
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which authorities fear
could be the worst on record.
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Extreme conditions
are on the way,
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and it’s all down to climate change.
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Australia is a distillation
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of the world’s dilemma
when it comes to climate change.
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But the story doesn’t make any sense
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unless you understand
what Australia is actually like.
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From its very inception,
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it’s a country that’s been reliant
on fossil fuels.
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We are now the world’s
largest exporter of coal,
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the world’s largest exporter of gas,
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and you hear the same thing over and over:
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If we haven’t got fossil fuels,
we’ve got nothing.
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We are also a very flat, dry continent
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that’s exquisitely vulnerable
to climate change.
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We knew that we would start feeling
the impacts before anyone else.
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And we’ve ignored that bigger picture
to our great cost.
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Now to the catastrophic
wildfires in Australia.
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More than 200 fires rage
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in two of Australia’s
most populated states.
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Climate scientists are saying
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the Bushfires in Australia are a warning
of what may be to come around the world.
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This could be the new normal.
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The greatest tragedy of this terrible
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Black Summer bushfire season
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was that we saw it coming.
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My first big fire was in 1971.
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I was only 12 years old.
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Some friends rang up
and said the fire’s coming
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up the hill towards us,
and off we went with axes
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and rakes and hessian sacks.
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There was no ifs or buts.
That was just what you did.
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In Australia, fires are a constant.
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Small fires in the Blue Mountains Area,
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fanned by hot north winds,
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struck towns and villages
with bewildering speed.
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Every year, there are Bushfires.
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Some years are very, very bad.
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Other years, not so much.
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But every year, there’s fires.
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It was very rudimentary in the early days.
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Grab branches off trees,
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beating out the flames.
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Wet sacks, rakes.
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That was my first big fire,
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and that’s when I knew
that’s what I wanted to do as a career.
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I was hooked.
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And I didn’t purposely
set out to be the chief,
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but in hindsight,
it was a thirst for knowledge.
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The government decided I was
the best person for the job at the time,
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and it was an incredible privilege
and honor.
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I was accustomed to a long buildup
to a bad fire season.
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My father would say,
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"Look, that wattle tree
is flowering a month early.
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"That means it’s really dry.
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"Look at the color of the leaves
on that banksia tree.
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"That means it’s having to go deeper
for water.
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"It’s dropping its leaves.
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"Watch the ants.
What sort of beetles came out
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at what time of year?"
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And in 1994, it just suddenly got hot
and windy and dry.
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The rain forest in Queensland is drying up
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and animals starving
after the driest three months
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for more than 80 years.
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I realized something’s haywire.
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New South Wales was hit
by massive simultaneous fires.
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Oh, my goodness.
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Oh, boy.
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Fire.
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It’s fire!
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This is the one that bushfire fighters
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have had nightmares about for years.
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Every hectare of this bush has tons
of tinder dry fuel ready to explode.
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There are grave fears about how far
its devastation will reach.
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Residents battle to protect their homes,
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but for some,
the struggle became too much.
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It is the most terrifying experience
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you can imagine.
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In 1994, I lost my home
to a bushfire that took everything.
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I walked away in the shorts I was wearing,
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uh, just, you know,
trying to fight that fire.
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Thankfully, my family all survived,
but we lost neighbors.
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We lost four people in that fire.
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I’ve watched the climate science develop
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over the last 30 years.
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He is known around the world
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as one of the leading scientists
studying climate change.
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His name: Tim Flannery.
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We are approaching a threshold
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to dangerous climate change,
and the time to act is very limited.
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The scientists have been very, very clear
about what’s happening.
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Look at the picture of the Earth at night,
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and look at all the lights
that are on, right?
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Imagine the fossil fuels
that are being burned to support that.
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Those greenhouse gases trap heat energy
close to the surface of the planet.
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They act a bit like a blanket on a bed.
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And so the temperature
just keeps going up and up and up.
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A new study of climatic changes
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in eastern Australia has produced
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the strongest evidence yet
that the greenhouse effect is underway.
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The increase reflects the rise
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in carbon dioxide levels
in the atmosphere over that time.
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Something is really happening.
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I started to read and study
and ask questions
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and discovered some early papers
on climate change and thought,
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"They might have something here."
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And in the years to follow, I realized,
yes, they certainly did.
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You’d assume that about once a decade
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there would be a very damaging fire
in New South Wales.
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But after 1994,
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we were having more and more
of these bad fires.
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We were losing homes in 1997,
three years later.
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Christmas Day, 2001, massive fires.
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2002, more fires.
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2003, the city of Canberra,
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firefighters narrowly escaped
with their lives.
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Go!
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2009, Victoria.
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We were regularly getting
off-the-scale fire danger,
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and it was all down to climate change.
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The fires were getting worse and worse,
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and I knew that this is exactly
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what climate scientists
had predicted for Australia...
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longer fire seasons,
more intense fire seasons...
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and that, sadly, was what I was seeing.
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The community is somewhat concerned
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that, uh, global warming could lead
to droughts of greater duration.
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Now, whether that...
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whether that is a legitimate concern is...
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is a matter that’s, frankly,
very much debated.
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I’ve watched the climate wars in Australia
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for the last 14 years.
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The plans to expand the coal industry
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are on a staggering scale.
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There has been a concerted effort
to undermine
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the science of climate change.
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Carbon dioxide does not drive temperature.
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A complete reversal
of what these people are spreading:
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their lies and their deception.
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Then you said climate change was crap.
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Well, I think what I actually said
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was the idea of the settled science
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of climate change is, uh, a bit aromatic.
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I was Australia’s first...
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and to date, only... climate commissioner.
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And served for three years
under the government,
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getting the word out about climate change,
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taking complex science
and making it comprehensible to people.
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Extreme weather events are going
to get more common and more severe,
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according to the latest report
from the Climate Commission.
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But the media just went totally crazy.
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Critics have labeled
the Climate Commission alarmist nonsense.
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These people are desperate.
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Climate change, the whole thing is a hoax.
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Out, out, out! Lies, lies, lies!
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Then the conservative government
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was elected, and their very first act
was to sack us.
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It wasn’t to do anything
important economically.
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It was to get rid of
the Climate Commission, which they did.
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He has to be exposed.
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It was really comic book stuff.
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People tried to act earlier,
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but there’s a lot of vested interests
involved.
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I mean, Scott Morrison...
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of course, now he’s our prime minister...
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stood up in the parliament
and held aloft a lump of coal.
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Mr. Speaker, this is coal.
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Don’t be afraid. Don’t be scared.
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- The treasurer...
- It won’t hurt you.
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The treasurer knows the rule on props.
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It’s coal.
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Of course, this lump of coal
wasn’t a dirty lump of coal
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with dust all over it.
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This lump of coal had come
from the Minerals Council,
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so it was very nicely cleaned up
for what was
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essentially a marketing presentation.
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Mr. Speaker,
those opposite have an ideological,
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pathological fear of coal.
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There’s no word for coal-ophobia,
officially, Mr. Speaker,
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but that’s the malady
that afflicts those opposite.
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Switching off jobs
and switching off lights
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and switching off air conditioners
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and forcing Australian families
to boil in the dark
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as a result of their Dark Ages policies,
Mr. Speaker.
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Jobs will be lost.
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Babies will die in hospitals
when the power goes out.
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This is the constant refrain.
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We cannot have kids
coming home from school
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and not having so much
as a toaster in the house
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because they don’t have power.
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They don’t have a fridge, mate.
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But I think one of the real low points
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was the debate over electric cars.
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The response to it
from Scott Morrison was this
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barrage of talking points that said,
amongst other things...
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It’s not gonna...
it’s not gonna tow your trailer.
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It’s not gonna tow your boat.
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It’s not gonna get you out to your
favorite camping spot with your family.
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To have that kind of infantile debate
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in a political campaign,
it just said to me,
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in 2019, we had not moved on.
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Thousands of school students
across the country
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want our politicians to know
they’ve had enough.
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They’re demanding something
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be done about climate change,
and tomorrow,
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they’ll be walking out of school.
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So, I was 16 when I first started.
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I think, like, ’cause people hear that,
and they go, "That’s, like, really young."
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You know, and a lot of adults
still would, you know, be like,
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"Oh, you’re so young. You’ve done so much.
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I’m so proud of you."
You know, that’s, um...
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"You give me hope," which...
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Don’t get me started on that.
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I found out that Sydney was gonna have
a climate strike protest,
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and I thought,
"I have to be involved with this.
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I have to get my friends involved."
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Like, "We have to take as many people
as possible from school."
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And I remember,
as we walked up towards the square
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where it was gonna be held,
we turn the corner...
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...and it was... I mean,
it was just a sea of, like, sweaty,
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you know, teenage kids.
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Sydney has been brought to a standstill
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by people fired up over climate change,
joining millions of people
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all around the world
in the biggest protest yet
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over the state of our planet.
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We are on the outskirts
of the biggest catastrophe
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humanity has ever faced,
and our government is doing nothing!
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It’s almost like
you’re conducting an orchestra.
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We want a safe future! Who’s with me?
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That crowd becomes the music
and becomes the energy
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in that drive, that wave of hope.
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That wave just kept
crashing over the crowd.
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Like, people were really excited.
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Like, the rally hadn’t even started.
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Our job was done.
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A lot of the publicity was driven
by our prime minister reacting to it.
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We don’t support the idea
of kids not going to school
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to participate in things
that can be dealt with outside of school.
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And so, what we want
is more learning in schools
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and less activism in schools.
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Which, you know, we sort of thought,
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you know, "Piss off."
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And to these adults, we say, laugh at us,
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attack us, do what you want to us,
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because you are on
the wrong side of history!
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We had over 300,000 people
take to the streets,
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which, if you are an Australian,
you will understand...
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Australians don’t do protests.
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Best day of my life. Best day.
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I’m not, like... Nothing can beat this.
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I remember coming home
and just thinking, "Shit."
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We want climate action,
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and we want it now.
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Hey, ho! It’s hot in here!
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There’s too much carbon in the atmosphere!
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Then there was just radio silence
from parliament.
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But the Murdoch media
suddenly were not quiet.
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The so-called activists...
more like anarchists...
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protesting in our streets these days.
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Lies, disinformation.
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Children completely brainwashed,
just saying what is
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the exact opposite of the truth.
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It was the first time
that I really experienced
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any, like, climate anxiety,
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because the people who’ve been in power
for the last 30 years
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have known about this crisis
and have deliberately decided
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to not only not do anything about it
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but to fight against people
who want to do something about it.
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You know, I want children growing up
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in Australia to feel positive
about their future.
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But I don’t want our children, um,
having anxieties about these issues.
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Whatever challenges come our way,
we’ll deal with them like we always have.
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I feel as if we have been
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just sleepwalking into a catastrophe.
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All of the warning signs have been there.
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Greg Mullins, our most experienced
fire commissioner,
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came to us in April and said,
"We are facing an unprecedented disaster."
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Two years in a row,
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the driest year on record
for much of... of eastern Australia.
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And this year’s looking like
the hottest year on record.
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How are we going to manage
the fire situation?
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So we were trying to help Greg
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to get an audience
with our prime minister,
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because this is a matter
of a national catastrophe.
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We wrote to the prime minister
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in April 2019 and said, "Prime Minister,
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"we fear that a bushfire catastrophe
is coming our way.
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"We’d love to meet with you.
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"’Cause this is going to be a shocker.
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This year, we’re gonna need everything
we can get."
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"We need better use of the military
to support the fire services,
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"more funding for firefighting aircraft.
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But you need to know about this,
Prime Minister."
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He just wasn’t interested.
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2019...
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it’s a snowball rolling down the hill.
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It’s getting bigger and bigger.
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There was just no moisture left.
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And we just watched the forests dying.
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It was like, yeah,
you just had a terrible feeling
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it was all really catching up with us.
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But I have to say,
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I did not predict how brutal
the fires were going to be
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as the summer went on.
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It rocked Australia to the core
what happened in the Black Summer.
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You know when you watch a movie
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and there’s that sort of,
like, low drone noise?
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It just increases in volume.
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And you just know that something’s coming
and it’s going wrong.
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It was like that...
it was a very slow burn.
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And then all of a sudden,
it just was massive.
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The lead-up to it was frightening.
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The whole of Victoria and New South Wales
got very, very dry.
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And it was just, like, a...
a brooding presence.
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I went into the bush
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because I wanted to record
what I could see.
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I was really concerned
because the trees grow so close together.
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300 to 500 trees per the acre.
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It’s a very volatile forest.
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And any fire there,
it just goes off like a bomb.
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Just 13 days out of winter,
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and there are at least 40 Bushfires
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burning across the state.
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Today the message
from authorities was clear:
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Get ready.
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I was working
at the newspapers up the coast.
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We’d already started reporting on fires,
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I think, uh, as early as September.
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Everyone was off photographing fires.
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They were just going off everywhere.
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Like, the-the phone just keep going,
"Beep-beep-beep."
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And then, uh, look, there’s another fire.
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There’s another fire.
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And so there was a sense in the air
that something could happen.
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And around here,
it was really, really dry.
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Some of the walks that I do every day,
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I’d noticed that the plants
had started dying and wilting.
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By the time it was November,
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the ground was, um,
like concrete, seriously.
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Everyone’s lawn was dead.
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Mallacoota’s very remote.
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And quite a number of longtime locals
were very, very concerned
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that this was going to be the year.
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But the biggest red flag went up
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when the rain forest was burning.
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Those forests have never burnt.
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We’re bearing direct witness
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to so many processes of change
playing out around us.
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We’re essentially right in the middle
of this stretch
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of some of the oldest forests
on the planet.
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Unchanged through
tens of millions of years.
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Through continents splitting apart,
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asteroids hitting the world.
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Those trees have been like an arc
through time and space.
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But as a consequence
of these climatic shifts,
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they’ve been drying out.
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It’s a process of unwinding deep time,
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of ripping the rug out
from under these species
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that have always had the conditions
that they need,
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going back to the time of the dinosaurs.
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The fires of Black Summer
burnt into these ancient refuges.
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There are currently 51 active fire zones
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across the state, 23 of them uncontained.
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The ongoing bushfire threat is coinciding
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with a dangerous heat wave,
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forcing the Rural Fire Service to declare
an unprecedented emergency situation.
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I’ve been with the Rural Fire Service...
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...for 60... 65 years.
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-60-odd years.
-Mm-hmm. 65.
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Fought fires all over New South Wales
and Victoria,
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and I’d never seen anything like it.
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That fire started, and it never let up.
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They attacked it with bombers.
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Large air tankers.
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It didn’t matter what they did.
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It worked its way down the coast.
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Major blazes are going to combine
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to form one massive fire,
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and everyone is on very high alert.
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We knew sooner or later
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it was going to be our turn.
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I can remember saying to people,
"This is serious.
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This fire is going to impact on Cobargo."
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I had no idea that it was going to be
within hours.
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At about 4:00 in the morning...
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-3:00. It was 3:00.
-Or, um...
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-It was 3:00 in the morning...
-Mm-hmm.
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woke up, went out, and-and I...
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it just felt unreal.
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All of the western skyline
just had this eerie red glow.
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Red.
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00:24:04,752 --> 00:24:06,792
I came in, and I woke Mary, and I said,
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"Listen, get up, love.
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00:24:08,672 --> 00:24:10,232
"Have breakfast.
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00:24:10,312 --> 00:24:11,992
This fire is going to hit."
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00:24:14,872 --> 00:24:17,552
- Oh, it’s way darker!
- Mum!
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00:24:17,632 --> 00:24:20,552
-Mum. Mum.
-It’s way darker.
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30th of December,
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the CFA called
an emergency community meeting.
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00:24:27,711 --> 00:24:32,151
We still had probably around
7,000 tourists in the town.
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There was an announcement
for people to leave.
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A lot of people didn’t leave.
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00:24:42,071 --> 00:24:43,910
I went around the caravan park
and asked people
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how they were feeling
about this looming sky.
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And I really think
that there was a sense of, like,
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"Oh, well, I’ve come here on my holiday,
and I’ll be all right."
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I think, at that stage,
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everyone was still thinking
it’s not going to happen.
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00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:09,270
You know, you don’t think
it’s going to happen really.
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00:25:09,350 --> 00:25:11,630
At one point, I was wetting down my car,
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00:25:11,710 --> 00:25:13,630
and this stupid woman
came up to me and said,
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00:25:13,710 --> 00:25:15,350
"What are you doing wasting water?
431
00:25:15,429 --> 00:25:16,910
"You don’t need to have your car...
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00:25:16,990 --> 00:25:19,149
What are you doing washing your car?"
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00:25:19,230 --> 00:25:22,309
I said, "I’m wetting it down
so the embers can’t catch."
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00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:24,470
I said, "Do you live here?"
She said, "No, I’m visiting."
435
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:26,189
I said, "Well, go home."
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00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:29,829
Holidaying while home burns.
437
00:25:29,909 --> 00:25:31,909
Scott Morrison relaxing in Hawaii
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as the nation confronts
an unprecedented bushfire catastrophe.
439
00:25:37,629 --> 00:25:39,589
When I saw Scott Morrison
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going off on a holiday to Hawaii
in the middle of this emerging disaster
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00:25:43,229 --> 00:25:45,068
that we could have done a huge amount
442
00:25:45,149 --> 00:25:48,189
to actually make it
much less severe than it was,
443
00:25:48,269 --> 00:25:50,548
um, I almost cried.
444
00:25:50,629 --> 00:25:52,908
He’s cutting short his family vacation,
445
00:25:52,989 --> 00:25:57,668
which his office has refused to confirm
or deny for days.
446
00:25:57,748 --> 00:26:00,868
I think it was really clear
from the outset,
447
00:26:00,949 --> 00:26:04,148
uh, when the fires started to get serious
448
00:26:04,228 --> 00:26:07,148
that Scott Morrison did not understand
449
00:26:07,228 --> 00:26:09,068
the gravity of the situation.
450
00:26:09,148 --> 00:26:12,148
I get it that people would have been upset
451
00:26:12,227 --> 00:26:14,868
to know that I was holidaying
with my family,
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00:26:14,947 --> 00:26:17,388
uh, while their families
were under great stress.
453
00:26:17,467 --> 00:26:20,268
They know that I’m not gonna stand there
and hold a hose.
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00:26:20,347 --> 00:26:22,028
I’m not a trained firefighter.
455
00:26:25,908 --> 00:26:30,028
He saw it through
a purely political lens, I think.
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00:26:32,067 --> 00:26:34,267
He did not want the fires to be an issue,
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00:26:34,347 --> 00:26:35,747
a big national issue,
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00:26:35,827 --> 00:26:37,427
because he was worried it would open up
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00:26:37,507 --> 00:26:39,587
the climate change issue.
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00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:42,547
Australia has been battling
ferocious fires
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00:26:42,627 --> 00:26:45,347
for as long as, uh,
Australia has been a nation
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00:26:45,426 --> 00:26:46,906
and-and well before.
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00:26:46,987 --> 00:26:49,106
He was overly influenced
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00:26:49,187 --> 00:26:51,107
by the power of the Murdoch media.
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00:26:51,186 --> 00:26:54,027
Fire is part and parcel of our landscape.
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00:26:54,106 --> 00:26:55,546
It always has been.
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00:26:55,626 --> 00:26:57,746
People in politics
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00:26:57,826 --> 00:26:59,946
took these guys, they took these women
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00:27:00,026 --> 00:27:01,746
really seriously.
470
00:27:01,826 --> 00:27:06,106
Does climate change cause these fires? No.
471
00:27:06,186 --> 00:27:07,626
The lies.
472
00:27:07,706 --> 00:27:10,266
We know what causes bushfire.
Someone has to light it.
473
00:27:10,346 --> 00:27:11,706
You know, arson.
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00:27:11,786 --> 00:27:13,586
They said, "These fires have
been started by arsonists."
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00:27:13,665 --> 00:27:17,266
You can’t blame
the fires on climate change, especially
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00:27:17,345 --> 00:27:19,185
when so many are...
deliberately lit.
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00:27:19,265 --> 00:27:20,945
The fact of the matter is
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00:27:21,026 --> 00:27:24,425
Australia has an arson problem
you can’t pin on global warming,
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00:27:24,505 --> 00:27:26,825
climate change
or whatever title you’re giving
480
00:27:26,905 --> 00:27:28,665
your environmental bogeyman these days.
481
00:27:37,105 --> 00:27:38,825
What a load of crap.
482
00:27:38,905 --> 00:27:40,345
They couldn’t accept
483
00:27:40,425 --> 00:27:42,584
that we’re having
the worst fires in history
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00:27:42,665 --> 00:27:45,184
because it was clearly driven
by climate change.
485
00:27:45,265 --> 00:27:49,385
Right through, I think, to
the tragedy of New Year’s Eve,
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00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:52,344
the government didn’t really get it.
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00:28:02,304 --> 00:28:04,024
People, communities are getting cut off.
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00:28:04,104 --> 00:28:05,624
They’re getting trapped.
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00:28:06,624 --> 00:28:09,824
The fire’d approached
from every angle here.
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00:28:09,904 --> 00:28:12,104
You’d go to sleep seeing the fire,
491
00:28:12,184 --> 00:28:14,624
and you’d wake up,
and it would still be there,
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00:28:14,703 --> 00:28:16,063
closer to you than it was,
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00:28:16,144 --> 00:28:18,383
and it just wore you down.
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00:28:23,984 --> 00:28:26,024
And so you’ve got to have good luck,
495
00:28:26,103 --> 00:28:28,703
and Mallacoota had terrible luck.
496
00:28:36,622 --> 00:28:37,903
Where’s my keys?
497
00:28:37,982 --> 00:28:39,423
Has anyone seen my keys?
498
00:28:39,502 --> 00:28:41,743
Don’t worry about the keys.
We’ll put you in this car here.
499
00:28:41,822 --> 00:28:43,742
-That’s my car, mate.
-Don’t worry about the keys.
500
00:28:43,823 --> 00:28:45,503
-I can’t open it without them.
-Doesn’t matter.
501
00:28:45,583 --> 00:28:46,622
Go, now, now!
502
00:28:46,703 --> 00:28:48,702
A siren went off.
503
00:28:48,783 --> 00:28:50,382
And our phones went off.
504
00:28:51,062 --> 00:28:52,343
And it was,
505
00:28:52,422 --> 00:28:54,143
you know, "Evacuate now."
506
00:28:57,662 --> 00:29:00,462
And I turned around,
and there it was coming at me.
507
00:29:02,422 --> 00:29:03,822
Go! Go!
508
00:29:03,901 --> 00:29:05,102
This red glow.
509
00:29:05,182 --> 00:29:06,302
Move!
510
00:29:07,302 --> 00:29:10,382
It was orange and smoky.
511
00:29:10,462 --> 00:29:12,502
There was lightning up in the sky.
512
00:29:19,581 --> 00:29:21,541
Cars were going on to Bastion Point beach.
513
00:29:21,621 --> 00:29:24,141
Other people were getting ready
down at the wharf,
514
00:29:24,221 --> 00:29:27,622
and then other people
were going to the hall.
515
00:29:27,701 --> 00:29:29,381
There’s a photograph of a local woman,
516
00:29:29,461 --> 00:29:31,781
and she’s holding her little dog.
517
00:29:31,861 --> 00:29:35,901
She wanted to leave,
but she also wanted to stay.
518
00:29:35,981 --> 00:29:37,421
"I want to stay because
519
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:38,981
this is where I live.
This is where I belong."
520
00:29:39,061 --> 00:29:40,701
And here we were.
521
00:29:40,781 --> 00:29:43,381
Now we had to decide whether
we go or whether we stay,
522
00:29:43,461 --> 00:29:45,301
like there’s a monster coming down on us.
523
00:29:51,461 --> 00:29:53,541
And the wind. I can’t stand wind anymore.
524
00:29:53,620 --> 00:29:56,100
I can’t be out in it
because it just reminds me
525
00:29:56,180 --> 00:29:59,060
of this howling going past my ears.
526
00:30:02,860 --> 00:30:05,860
- You could hear it.
- It was a... like a...
527
00:30:05,940 --> 00:30:07,500
It was like a dragon,
you know, like a...
528
00:30:12,460 --> 00:30:15,819
And then everything went pitch-black.
529
00:30:21,220 --> 00:30:24,899
This is Mallacoota at 9:13 in the morning.
530
00:30:24,979 --> 00:30:28,539
Absolutely unbelievable. Pitch black.
531
00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:30,859
There’s embers falling from the sky.
532
00:30:31,859 --> 00:30:35,299
A girlfriend of mine texted me
and said, "Are you okay?"
533
00:30:36,499 --> 00:30:40,139
And I started taking some shots
just to send to her.
534
00:30:43,618 --> 00:30:46,618
She said to me,
"Was this taken last night?"
535
00:30:46,699 --> 00:30:49,179
And I said, "No, it’s right now."
536
00:30:50,218 --> 00:30:51,939
It’s now really scary.
537
00:30:52,018 --> 00:30:54,538
You couldn’t see your hand
in front of your face.
538
00:30:54,618 --> 00:30:56,458
The wind’s picked up,
539
00:30:56,538 --> 00:30:58,938
which is pushing the fire
straight towards us.
540
00:30:59,018 --> 00:31:01,578
The reason that the sky goes
absolutely pitch-black
541
00:31:01,658 --> 00:31:04,018
is because all of the soot
542
00:31:04,098 --> 00:31:07,498
that is created by the fire
actually goes ahead
543
00:31:07,578 --> 00:31:08,697
of the fire front.
544
00:31:08,778 --> 00:31:10,418
So that’s what hits you first.
545
00:31:12,577 --> 00:31:15,177
And then, as the fire front gets closer,
546
00:31:15,258 --> 00:31:19,898
the soot clears, and you just get
this intensely red sky.
547
00:31:35,657 --> 00:31:37,537
I was sitting outside the hall.
548
00:31:38,537 --> 00:31:40,177
I wanted to see as much as I could.
549
00:31:45,937 --> 00:31:47,696
But then a CFA volunteer
550
00:31:47,777 --> 00:31:50,217
came and tapped me on the shoulder
and said, "You have to move in."
551
00:31:56,376 --> 00:31:59,216
In the hall, it was really claustrophobic,
552
00:31:59,296 --> 00:32:00,976
and they blacked out the windows,
553
00:32:01,056 --> 00:32:03,176
so you couldn’t look out,
and all you could see
554
00:32:03,256 --> 00:32:05,096
was the fire through the skylights.
555
00:32:05,176 --> 00:32:06,855
You know, so you could see the red...
556
00:32:06,936 --> 00:32:08,775
the red glow and the flickering
through the skylights.
557
00:32:08,856 --> 00:32:10,896
And, you know, like,
we were sort of just laying down.
558
00:32:10,975 --> 00:32:15,176
I-I can remember just sort of laying down,
559
00:32:15,255 --> 00:32:18,176
and I just thought,
"How are we gonna get out of this?
560
00:32:18,255 --> 00:32:20,095
How are we going to actually
get out of this?"
561
00:32:20,175 --> 00:32:24,415
And then I also felt, you know,
I put my child in this situation, so...
562
00:32:24,495 --> 00:32:27,695
maybe my imagination is big,
but it was really...
563
00:32:28,695 --> 00:32:30,175
...a real thing that you didn’t know
564
00:32:30,255 --> 00:32:33,095
whether you were actually really gonna
come out of there alive or not,
565
00:32:33,174 --> 00:32:35,575
because it-it could have gone up.
566
00:32:35,654 --> 00:32:36,815
Yeah.
567
00:32:40,135 --> 00:32:42,735
It was like being on a plane
when it’s going down.
568
00:32:42,814 --> 00:32:44,574
And that’s how it felt.
569
00:32:49,654 --> 00:32:53,094
The side of our house was very, very hot,
570
00:32:53,175 --> 00:32:55,494
and the embers just hit me...
little red embers.
571
00:32:55,574 --> 00:32:59,174
And the heat was enormous, so I...
572
00:32:59,254 --> 00:33:01,013
hosed myself down.
573
00:33:02,814 --> 00:33:05,534
I was shocked at the ferocity of it.
574
00:33:06,494 --> 00:33:09,054
It was only a matter of half an hour,
575
00:33:09,133 --> 00:33:11,294
and we lost water.
576
00:33:11,374 --> 00:33:13,174
Need to evacuate!
577
00:33:13,253 --> 00:33:15,453
Please evacuate!
578
00:33:15,534 --> 00:33:18,974
So we’ve lost water, we’ve got no power,
579
00:33:19,053 --> 00:33:20,853
-and we’ve got no fire trucks.
-Right.
580
00:33:20,933 --> 00:33:23,133
All communications are gone.
581
00:33:23,214 --> 00:33:25,293
Our radios are knocked out.
582
00:33:25,373 --> 00:33:27,293
The town was at-at the mercy.
583
00:33:30,893 --> 00:33:33,532
Said to Mary, "There goes the house."
584
00:33:35,852 --> 00:33:37,333
"There goes the shop."
585
00:33:39,093 --> 00:33:41,372
It was almost surreal.
586
00:33:50,412 --> 00:33:52,412
Jesus.
587
00:33:52,492 --> 00:33:55,892
The roar and the noise of it
was horrendous.
588
00:33:55,972 --> 00:33:58,852
I just called it a vicious monster.
589
00:33:59,812 --> 00:34:01,532
Wow.
590
00:34:05,052 --> 00:34:08,612
For an individual person
facing a bushfire,
591
00:34:08,692 --> 00:34:11,892
the fire almost behaves like a, an animal,
592
00:34:11,971 --> 00:34:13,971
a predator that’ll play with you.
593
00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:17,411
You can see it just gently
creeping along harmlessly.
594
00:34:17,491 --> 00:34:19,452
Whoa! Kangaroo!
595
00:34:19,531 --> 00:34:21,411
Okay, coming this way.
596
00:34:21,492 --> 00:34:22,931
But within an hour, it’ll change,
597
00:34:23,012 --> 00:34:25,131
and it might burn a neighbor’s house
and leave yours.
598
00:34:25,212 --> 00:34:27,291
Oh!
599
00:34:28,411 --> 00:34:32,011
Or it’ll burn your house
and leave everything else around it.
600
00:34:34,771 --> 00:34:38,171
So it’s psychologically very damaging
to have to deal with that stress.
601
00:34:40,251 --> 00:34:43,451
And then when the fire comes,
of course, it’s a catastrophe.
602
00:34:47,370 --> 00:34:49,450
Normally, the flashbacks happen
603
00:34:49,530 --> 00:34:52,530
more on hazy sort of days
when it’s not quite as clear
604
00:34:52,610 --> 00:34:54,890
and you’ll just glance up at a ridge.
605
00:34:55,890 --> 00:34:57,330
I don’t know, it just triggers something,
606
00:34:57,410 --> 00:34:58,370
and I just see flame.
607
00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:09,009
The roar of the fire was...
608
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:11,370
Yeah, there’s no words, really,
to describe it.
609
00:35:11,449 --> 00:35:13,330
It was just screaming.
610
00:35:13,409 --> 00:35:15,289
Like, we couldn’t talk to each other.
611
00:35:15,370 --> 00:35:18,369
It was more hand signals
and yelling in each other’s ears.
612
00:35:24,649 --> 00:35:26,729
The trees are about
two to three stories tall,
613
00:35:26,809 --> 00:35:29,449
and the flames are about
two to three stories above them,
614
00:35:29,529 --> 00:35:33,049
just ripping the whole way around,
just tornadoing above us.
615
00:35:33,128 --> 00:35:35,529
It was just picking everything up
and just taking it.
616
00:35:35,608 --> 00:35:38,009
Branches landing next to us
as thick as your arm.
617
00:35:46,608 --> 00:35:48,368
I was trying to breathe,
618
00:35:49,409 --> 00:35:51,968
and so I tried to rip my mask off,
trying to breathe, and I couldn’t.
619
00:35:52,048 --> 00:35:53,888
There was nothing I could do.
620
00:35:53,968 --> 00:35:56,008
I was in full panic mode at that point.
621
00:35:58,128 --> 00:36:00,328
I was seeing birds falling out of the sky.
622
00:36:01,728 --> 00:36:03,687
Yeah, the cockatiels on fire,
623
00:36:03,768 --> 00:36:05,607
burning and dropping out of the sky.
624
00:36:10,808 --> 00:36:12,487
It was something you could not fight.
625
00:36:12,568 --> 00:36:14,407
It was just... survive.
626
00:36:15,927 --> 00:36:17,648
I knew there was gonna be mass loss.
627
00:36:19,967 --> 00:36:21,368
To the south, there were Bushfires.
628
00:36:21,447 --> 00:36:22,767
To the west,
there were Bushfires.
629
00:36:22,847 --> 00:36:24,847
To the north, there were Bushfires.
630
00:36:24,927 --> 00:36:26,887
And in every direction,
roads were cut off.
631
00:36:26,967 --> 00:36:29,007
Families are trapped on the beach
632
00:36:29,087 --> 00:36:31,526
as the fires surround them on all sides.
633
00:36:38,087 --> 00:36:41,527
The entire coast
is choked with this thick smoke,
634
00:36:41,606 --> 00:36:43,526
making it difficult to breathe.
635
00:36:48,486 --> 00:36:51,046
The fires really came home to me
636
00:36:51,127 --> 00:36:53,526
when the smoke came into Sydney.
637
00:36:57,246 --> 00:36:59,446
You know, you’d be going
for your morning walk,
638
00:36:59,526 --> 00:37:01,406
you’d be seeing your friends,
639
00:37:01,486 --> 00:37:04,165
and just this heaviness in your breathing.
640
00:37:05,246 --> 00:37:08,565
And it was really discombobulating for me.
641
00:37:08,646 --> 00:37:11,325
I was writing about climate change,
642
00:37:11,406 --> 00:37:16,606
and there I was
in my everyday life experiencing it.
643
00:37:21,965 --> 00:37:24,285
The plume of smoke
generated by the inferno
644
00:37:24,365 --> 00:37:27,845
covers five and a half million
square kilometers.
645
00:37:27,925 --> 00:37:29,684
That’s the size of Europe.
646
00:37:30,685 --> 00:37:33,644
The psychological impact was stifling.
647
00:37:33,725 --> 00:37:35,564
They say seal up your windows,
648
00:37:35,645 --> 00:37:36,804
seal up your doors.
649
00:37:36,885 --> 00:37:38,324
That doesn’t stop the smoke.
650
00:37:39,884 --> 00:37:41,884
It was just insidious.
651
00:37:48,284 --> 00:37:50,284
You know,
and maybe in a bushfire season
652
00:37:50,365 --> 00:37:52,404
in the past, you might have
a week of smoke
653
00:37:52,484 --> 00:37:53,844
and that was a really bad fire.
654
00:37:54,804 --> 00:37:56,444
And this was just three months
655
00:37:56,524 --> 00:37:58,084
of, like, the thickest smoke
656
00:37:58,164 --> 00:37:59,644
that you could imagine.
657
00:38:05,724 --> 00:38:07,364
You know, it was just everywhere.
658
00:38:07,443 --> 00:38:09,124
You couldn’t get out of it.
659
00:38:10,683 --> 00:38:12,043
And I was so tired...
660
00:38:12,123 --> 00:38:14,323
really unusually tired.
661
00:38:14,403 --> 00:38:16,404
You know, like,
people just keep saying to me,
662
00:38:16,483 --> 00:38:19,123
"Well, you’re pregnant, um,
and you have a toddler,
663
00:38:19,203 --> 00:38:21,003
so you’re gonna be tired."
664
00:38:21,083 --> 00:38:22,723
But you get tired from the heat
665
00:38:22,803 --> 00:38:25,523
and you get tired from
having to breathe harder.
666
00:38:28,883 --> 00:38:30,442
When a woman is pregnant,
667
00:38:30,523 --> 00:38:32,603
the whole system is on overdrive.
668
00:38:32,683 --> 00:38:35,242
So she breathes faster
669
00:38:35,323 --> 00:38:37,683
and she takes deeper breaths.
670
00:38:37,763 --> 00:38:40,722
She’s inhaling this toxic smoke.
671
00:38:40,803 --> 00:38:43,843
The tiny little smoke particles
travel through her body
672
00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:46,922
and get lodged in the placenta.
673
00:38:47,003 --> 00:38:49,562
The filter system,
the thing that we all grew from.
674
00:38:54,122 --> 00:38:56,642
My friend who worked in obstetrics,
675
00:38:56,722 --> 00:38:58,802
she said, "It just doesn’t sound right."
676
00:38:59,762 --> 00:39:02,121
So I went to the hospital.
677
00:39:04,321 --> 00:39:06,482
"This baby needs
to come in the next 24 hours
678
00:39:06,562 --> 00:39:09,401
because this is really
real risk of stillbirth."
679
00:39:09,482 --> 00:39:11,761
That’s-that’s pretty real,
confronting news.
680
00:39:13,882 --> 00:39:16,202
The same time that Saga was being born
681
00:39:16,281 --> 00:39:19,922
is when the village of Cobargo was burning
just 200 kilometers away.
682
00:39:20,001 --> 00:39:22,081
And the air was full of smoke,
683
00:39:22,161 --> 00:39:23,601
and people are having
New Year’s celebrations
684
00:39:23,681 --> 00:39:25,560
we could hear from outside the hospital.
685
00:39:25,641 --> 00:39:27,401
It was a really bizarre time.
686
00:39:30,001 --> 00:39:32,921
And coming in
at just under two kilograms,
687
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,601
Saga Snow made an early entrance
at 36 weeks,
688
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,120
not wanting to miss
any of the festivities.
689
00:39:40,201 --> 00:39:43,520
The baby was small,
and the baby was early,
690
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,360
and the baby had respiratory issues.
691
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,760
Nice little temperature-controlled box.
692
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,600
The midwife,
693
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,560
her immediate question straightaway was,
"Are you a smoker?"
694
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,640
"Are you a smoker? Have you ever smoked?"
695
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:58,479
And she said, "No, I’ve never smoked.
696
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,560
You know, why do you keep asking me that?"
697
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,200
And the placenta attached to this baby,
698
00:40:03,279 --> 00:40:07,559
it was a gray, crumbly,
disgusting-looking placenta.
699
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,920
We’ve all seen those pictures
of what smokers’ lungs look like.
700
00:40:10,999 --> 00:40:12,959
They’re on Australian cigarette packets.
701
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:14,999
That’s what this placenta looked like.
702
00:40:20,199 --> 00:40:23,679
She was in ICU for 17 days.
703
00:40:24,679 --> 00:40:26,038
You’re not holding your baby.
704
00:40:26,119 --> 00:40:27,278
You’re... you know,
705
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:30,239
you put your hand in through the incubator
and hold her little hand.
706
00:40:30,318 --> 00:40:33,758
And I can still now, um, get her to sleep
by holding her hand
707
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:37,119
because that’s what she learned
in those first few weeks.
708
00:40:42,558 --> 00:40:46,518
She was well under first percentile
in birth weight,
709
00:40:46,598 --> 00:40:49,118
and she’s taking a long time to catch up.
710
00:40:51,758 --> 00:40:54,358
By the time she’s 18 months,
if she’s still behind,
711
00:40:54,438 --> 00:40:56,398
they’ll consider giving growth hormones.
712
00:40:57,478 --> 00:40:59,198
The young women who are coming in
713
00:40:59,278 --> 00:41:03,158
with their babies tell me
that it’s-it’s not just them
714
00:41:03,237 --> 00:41:04,958
but in their mothers groups,
715
00:41:05,037 --> 00:41:07,917
their babies have been affected
by the smoke
716
00:41:07,997 --> 00:41:09,557
and their babies were born early.
717
00:41:09,637 --> 00:41:12,078
Where the women have to go back
after the birth
718
00:41:12,157 --> 00:41:17,077
and have these crumbly, horrible,
smoke-affected placentas scraped out.
719
00:41:18,277 --> 00:41:19,917
You can see how little she is there.
720
00:41:19,997 --> 00:41:22,917
The origin of life is actually now
721
00:41:22,997 --> 00:41:24,717
this canary in the coal mine,
722
00:41:24,797 --> 00:41:26,916
and these babies are being exposed
723
00:41:26,997 --> 00:41:29,517
to the effect
of the heating of the planet,
724
00:41:29,597 --> 00:41:31,596
the climate change.
725
00:41:31,677 --> 00:41:33,717
Night night, Saga.
726
00:41:46,916 --> 00:41:50,116
Look, in-in Australia,
bad fire weather days
727
00:41:50,196 --> 00:41:52,036
have always been difficult,
728
00:41:52,116 --> 00:41:55,436
but what was different this summer
was multiple fires
729
00:41:55,516 --> 00:41:58,316
formed their own weather systems.
730
00:42:01,956 --> 00:42:05,075
With massive fires, the heat going up
731
00:42:05,156 --> 00:42:09,396
drives the smoke column ten, 12, 13
kilometers up into the stratosphere.
732
00:42:11,476 --> 00:42:14,955
And the water vapor in the smoke
forms a cloud.
733
00:42:15,915 --> 00:42:18,195
The fires create their own thunderstorms.
734
00:42:20,595 --> 00:42:23,915
They’re a very dangerous,
scary thing to be under.
735
00:42:27,154 --> 00:42:29,474
Incredible winds from every direction.
736
00:42:29,555 --> 00:42:31,715
Ah, burn and piss off, will you?
737
00:42:33,915 --> 00:42:36,034
The sparks carried
in the convection column
738
00:42:36,115 --> 00:42:38,475
going eight to 12 kilometers.
739
00:42:39,435 --> 00:42:42,114
And they spark fires up to 30 kilometers
away from the lightning,
740
00:42:42,195 --> 00:42:44,074
but there’s no rain.
741
00:42:45,075 --> 00:42:47,274
-See the wind swirling?
-Yeah, it is, isn’t it?
742
00:42:49,394 --> 00:42:50,874
I remember my dad saying,
743
00:42:50,954 --> 00:42:54,234
"I think I saw one in the 1939 heat wave."
744
00:42:55,513 --> 00:42:58,034
And I thought I saw one in 1975.
745
00:43:00,554 --> 00:43:02,194
But that was sort of a legend
with firefighters.
746
00:43:02,273 --> 00:43:03,954
Not many people have seen ’em.
747
00:43:04,993 --> 00:43:07,353
I saw about ten last summer.
748
00:43:11,873 --> 00:43:14,713
It’s true that big fires
can generate their own weather,
749
00:43:14,793 --> 00:43:17,353
because this looks like
a massive thunderhead.
750
00:43:17,433 --> 00:43:20,553
It looks like a nuclear bomb’s gone off.
751
00:43:20,633 --> 00:43:23,072
It’s, um... it’s huge.
752
00:43:23,153 --> 00:43:24,992
Pyro-convective storms...
753
00:43:25,073 --> 00:43:26,912
"Rare." Well, not anymore.
754
00:43:29,313 --> 00:43:31,072
I was fighting fires as a volunteer,
755
00:43:31,153 --> 00:43:33,033
and I was all over the state.
756
00:43:33,112 --> 00:43:35,233
Um, I don’t like this.
757
00:43:35,312 --> 00:43:37,072
No. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
758
00:43:37,153 --> 00:43:41,792
You know, I’d never really felt
in the past almost powerless
759
00:43:41,872 --> 00:43:44,552
as I did this last spring and summer.
760
00:43:46,752 --> 00:43:48,232
Hurry up!
761
00:43:48,312 --> 00:43:50,231
Everyone out!
762
00:43:53,712 --> 00:43:55,672
I was in Batemans Bay.
763
00:43:55,752 --> 00:43:58,512
We were waiting for instructions
and catching our breath.
764
00:44:00,831 --> 00:44:03,151
You couldn’t see very far
because of the orange smoke.
765
00:44:03,232 --> 00:44:04,752
Everything was dark.
766
00:44:04,831 --> 00:44:07,311
It was probably 2:00 in the afternoon,
but it was like night.
767
00:44:10,951 --> 00:44:14,311
Then I saw something moving
on the side of the road.
768
00:44:14,391 --> 00:44:16,031
And I walked closer.
769
00:44:16,111 --> 00:44:18,271
It was a mob of kangaroos.
770
00:44:22,111 --> 00:44:24,510
The speed of that fire
with its Pyro-convective storm
771
00:44:24,591 --> 00:44:27,791
driving it in every direction,
they had no way... way to go,
772
00:44:27,871 --> 00:44:30,150
and they came out of the forest on fire
773
00:44:30,231 --> 00:44:32,831
and dropped dead on the road,
and I’ve never seen that. I...
774
00:44:32,910 --> 00:44:34,550
Kangaroos know what to do in a fire.
775
00:44:34,631 --> 00:44:35,991
They’re fast animals.
776
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:37,950
I just, uh...
777
00:44:40,830 --> 00:44:43,270
What do you... I don’t know.
778
00:44:43,350 --> 00:44:45,230
Yeah, the world’s changed.
779
00:45:21,789 --> 00:45:25,148
Every year
for the last 25 or 26 years now,
780
00:45:25,229 --> 00:45:28,428
there has been
a conference of the parties.
781
00:45:28,509 --> 00:45:30,549
It’s where decisions
like the Kyoto Protocol
782
00:45:30,628 --> 00:45:32,389
and the Paris Climate Agreement
were reached.
783
00:45:32,468 --> 00:45:35,708
And in 2019, it was the COP 25.
784
00:45:36,708 --> 00:45:38,388
Well, the COP 25 climate conference
785
00:45:38,468 --> 00:45:40,628
is underway in Madrid
with a new report showing
786
00:45:40,708 --> 00:45:44,908
the past decade is almost certain
to be the hottest on record.
787
00:45:44,988 --> 00:45:49,628
UN Secretary-General António Guterres
is calling for urgent action.
788
00:45:49,708 --> 00:45:52,268
I was invited by Greenpeace
789
00:45:52,348 --> 00:45:54,907
to join them at this conference.
790
00:45:54,988 --> 00:45:56,908
And I realized I didn’t have any jeans,
791
00:45:56,987 --> 00:45:58,668
and I was heading into European winter,
792
00:45:58,747 --> 00:46:00,507
and I thought,
"Hmm, better get some jeans."
793
00:46:00,588 --> 00:46:03,788
And, um, I remember being in the city
with my mum,
794
00:46:03,867 --> 00:46:09,067
and there was ash falling
and the sky was, like, orange.
795
00:46:09,147 --> 00:46:11,347
And we just thought,
796
00:46:11,427 --> 00:46:13,267
"Well, something has to come out of this.
797
00:46:13,347 --> 00:46:15,107
We have to create this change."
798
00:46:17,387 --> 00:46:20,107
I hopped on the plane,
and when I got to Madrid,
799
00:46:20,187 --> 00:46:22,267
I was staying in this hostel with a bunch
800
00:46:22,347 --> 00:46:24,027
of other kids from around the world.
801
00:46:24,106 --> 00:46:25,947
- What do we want?
- Climate justice!
802
00:46:26,026 --> 00:46:27,546
-When do we want it?
-Now!
803
00:46:27,627 --> 00:46:29,107
We were there at the conference
804
00:46:29,186 --> 00:46:31,146
from about 8:00 in the morning
to 8:00 at night.
805
00:46:31,226 --> 00:46:33,746
Fossil fuel companies
were funding the conference,
806
00:46:33,827 --> 00:46:35,506
and their names were plastered everywhere.
807
00:46:38,666 --> 00:46:40,386
Each country had its own pavilion
808
00:46:40,466 --> 00:46:44,426
sort of, like, trying to represent
what they were doing in terms of climate.
809
00:46:44,506 --> 00:46:46,746
What did Australia have as its pavilion?
810
00:46:46,826 --> 00:46:49,226
Australia didn’t have a pavilion,
I remember.
811
00:46:49,306 --> 00:46:54,305
And our Minister for Energy Angus Taylor
812
00:46:54,386 --> 00:46:57,946
got up in front of the entire world
813
00:46:58,025 --> 00:47:01,386
while his own country was on fire
814
00:47:01,465 --> 00:47:03,665
and said that Australia
was doing its part.
815
00:47:03,745 --> 00:47:06,905
We are already on track
to meet and beat
816
00:47:06,985 --> 00:47:09,425
the targets we have set for 2030,
817
00:47:09,505 --> 00:47:12,505
just as we are meeting
and beating our Kyoto targets.
818
00:47:12,585 --> 00:47:14,585
That was embarrassing. It was...
819
00:47:14,665 --> 00:47:17,025
It was just... like, it was humiliating.
820
00:47:19,705 --> 00:47:23,784
This government is not taking action
to address climate even though
821
00:47:23,865 --> 00:47:26,104
our country is burning
because of their inaction.
822
00:47:28,704 --> 00:47:30,305
Fossil fuel lobbyists were able to just
823
00:47:30,384 --> 00:47:32,424
sort of weave in and out
of government cubicles,
824
00:47:32,505 --> 00:47:35,824
whereas indigenous activists
and young people were locked out.
825
00:47:35,904 --> 00:47:38,704
Shame on you! Shame on you!
826
00:47:38,784 --> 00:47:40,304
Shame on you!
827
00:47:40,384 --> 00:47:43,184
And we saw these negotiations break down.
828
00:47:44,424 --> 00:47:47,664
We’re disappointed that we once again
failed to find agreement.
829
00:47:47,744 --> 00:47:51,424
This is really becoming very worrisome
830
00:47:51,504 --> 00:47:53,624
for a lot of countries.
831
00:47:54,623 --> 00:47:56,143
Coming back to Australia,
832
00:47:56,224 --> 00:47:58,063
we were really left
with not much hope at all.
833
00:48:00,143 --> 00:48:01,864
The fires were everywhere.
834
00:48:04,103 --> 00:48:07,023
It was just horrific,
and I was really burnt out.
835
00:48:07,103 --> 00:48:08,903
Like, you know, your heart can sink.
836
00:48:08,983 --> 00:48:11,503
I think my heart had just hit the floor
and just kept going.
837
00:48:12,583 --> 00:48:14,503
I cried for three days straight.
838
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:23,702
I was totally shocked by the scale.
839
00:48:23,783 --> 00:48:26,143
If you’d have asked me before the fires
840
00:48:26,223 --> 00:48:29,143
how big a percentage of the forest area
would have burned,
841
00:48:29,222 --> 00:48:31,422
I might have said maximum five percent.
842
00:48:32,902 --> 00:48:34,742
But to see 21% burned,
843
00:48:34,822 --> 00:48:37,103
it’s-it’s like we’ve...
we’ve crossed a threshold.
844
00:48:38,623 --> 00:48:40,422
We’ve entered a new era.
845
00:48:45,862 --> 00:48:50,142
Those fires burnt ten times more
than had ever burnt before.
846
00:48:51,381 --> 00:48:53,901
And the impact was beyond comprehension.
847
00:48:59,182 --> 00:49:01,021
You-you drive for hundreds of kilometers
848
00:49:01,102 --> 00:49:02,421
in New South Wales,
849
00:49:02,501 --> 00:49:04,741
and all you see is blackened earth.
850
00:49:12,541 --> 00:49:15,101
Three billion animals were killed.
851
00:49:17,701 --> 00:49:19,421
You pick him up, and I’ll...
852
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:24,261
All right.
853
00:49:24,340 --> 00:49:25,980
We’ll get going in a second.
854
00:49:26,061 --> 00:49:27,860
- Yeah.
- Okay.
855
00:49:51,899 --> 00:49:55,420
We saw places burning
that have never burned before.
856
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:59,299
Forests millions of years old
that dinosaurs used to walk through
857
00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:02,339
that had always been
too wet and cold to burn...
858
00:50:02,419 --> 00:50:04,019
burn.
859
00:50:10,459 --> 00:50:13,779
Usually in a fire,
you get blackness and grayness.
860
00:50:16,418 --> 00:50:20,418
But the trees burned so hot
that when that fire had passed
861
00:50:20,499 --> 00:50:22,858
it looked like snow had fallen,
862
00:50:22,939 --> 00:50:24,739
because the ash was snow white.
863
00:50:28,739 --> 00:50:30,338
And that’s what it was like.
864
00:50:34,458 --> 00:50:37,098
It was kind of almost like walking out
865
00:50:37,178 --> 00:50:38,258
into the apocalypse or something.
866
00:50:38,338 --> 00:50:39,858
Like, everyone just was a bit dazed.
867
00:50:43,658 --> 00:50:48,937
The first thing that we saw was just
all the houses around town, just gone.
868
00:50:53,177 --> 00:50:55,018
So I just started photographing.
869
00:51:06,897 --> 00:51:08,497
You know, by January,
870
00:51:08,577 --> 00:51:11,417
there were people going about
their holidays having to be rescued
871
00:51:11,497 --> 00:51:13,417
by the Australian Army, the Navy.
872
00:51:20,616 --> 00:51:23,216
Unbelievable scenes
for a country like this.
873
00:51:32,777 --> 00:51:34,816
You know,
I’ve seen people who’ve lost houses.
874
00:51:34,896 --> 00:51:38,736
We’ve all seen them on television
being interviewed and stuff like that.
875
00:51:38,816 --> 00:51:40,896
But until it happens,
I don’t think you’ve got any idea
876
00:51:40,976 --> 00:51:42,696
what it’s actually like.
877
00:51:42,776 --> 00:51:46,776
And it’s... and it’s layer
upon layer upon layer of...
878
00:51:46,856 --> 00:51:48,336
of dealing with it.
879
00:51:48,416 --> 00:51:51,296
It’s-it’s not, you know,
there’s the initial shock
880
00:51:51,376 --> 00:51:55,895
and-and, you know, um, despair
that you’ve lost everything you own.
881
00:51:55,975 --> 00:51:57,535
I mean, I have no photos.
882
00:51:57,615 --> 00:52:01,335
I have nothing of my mother’s,
my father’s, my grandparents’, nothing.
883
00:52:01,415 --> 00:52:05,095
It’s just... it’s like a whole part of
my life has just been wiped away.
884
00:52:14,975 --> 00:52:18,774
Former New South Wales
Fire and Rescue Commissioner Greg Mullins
885
00:52:18,855 --> 00:52:22,854
is demanding action
to prevent future catastrophes.
886
00:52:22,935 --> 00:52:24,974
We have to talk about climate change
887
00:52:25,054 --> 00:52:29,815
because our bushfire situation
in Australia has changed forever.
888
00:52:32,614 --> 00:52:37,214
What the ex-fire chief
is saying is patently absurd.
889
00:52:41,694 --> 00:52:45,254
They said that I shouldn’t
have been talking about climate change
890
00:52:45,334 --> 00:52:47,293
when people were suffering in the fires.
891
00:52:47,374 --> 00:52:49,174
This is what it’s come to.
892
00:52:49,254 --> 00:52:53,293
Hysteria and, uh,
completely fact-free ranting
893
00:52:53,374 --> 00:52:56,694
can see you elevated
to some heroic status.
894
00:52:58,214 --> 00:52:59,574
I don’t care.
895
00:53:01,493 --> 00:53:03,133
I’m actually in this business,
896
00:53:03,213 --> 00:53:05,213
and I know that when people suffer loss
897
00:53:05,293 --> 00:53:07,853
they want to know why immediately.
898
00:53:11,532 --> 00:53:13,732
They want to know what the hell happened.
899
00:53:25,812 --> 00:53:28,212
I don’t want to look at it right now.
900
00:53:37,212 --> 00:53:39,132
...they’re all from
the original businesses in Cobargo.
901
00:53:39,212 --> 00:53:41,092
Brian Ayliffe from just over the road,
902
00:53:41,172 --> 00:53:42,251
lived there for 48 years.
903
00:53:42,332 --> 00:53:44,892
That was a family business. They’re gone.
904
00:53:44,972 --> 00:53:47,132
We heard a rumor that there was
905
00:53:47,211 --> 00:53:50,211
multiple cars getting around town.
906
00:53:51,812 --> 00:53:53,811
Why is there four, like,
907
00:53:53,892 --> 00:53:56,212
SUVs all blacked out getting around town?
908
00:53:56,291 --> 00:53:59,731
It’s gonna be someone of some degree
that needs security.
909
00:54:01,572 --> 00:54:04,531
So we all went,
"Oh, you know, the prime minister’s here."
910
00:54:07,771 --> 00:54:09,171
It wasn’t a leader saying,
911
00:54:09,251 --> 00:54:12,051
"This has been an emergency.
What do we need to do?"
912
00:54:12,131 --> 00:54:15,170
He got out,
and he started taking selfies with people.
913
00:54:15,251 --> 00:54:17,770
Got a smile.
914
00:54:17,851 --> 00:54:19,211
Looking in this direction.
915
00:54:19,290 --> 00:54:20,731
Good on ya. Thank you very much.
916
00:54:20,810 --> 00:54:22,291
- Thank you.
- Good on ya.
917
00:54:22,371 --> 00:54:23,891
He just went, "How are you?
918
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:25,250
"All right, you’re not good. Next person.
919
00:54:25,330 --> 00:54:27,850
"Oh, how are you? Oh, you’re not good.
Next person."
920
00:54:30,290 --> 00:54:32,090
That boiled my blood.
I’m not going to lie.
921
00:54:32,170 --> 00:54:34,690
I... My house was in rubble,
922
00:54:34,770 --> 00:54:37,210
and here he is taking selfies
with people, smiling.
923
00:54:37,290 --> 00:54:39,210
I thought that was
extremely inconsiderate.
924
00:54:40,530 --> 00:54:44,290
And he come up to me
and asked, "How are you?"
925
00:54:44,370 --> 00:54:46,210
And I-I just saw red.
926
00:54:46,290 --> 00:54:47,890
Hello. How are you?
927
00:54:47,969 --> 00:54:51,249
I’m only shaking your hand
if you give more funding to RFS.
928
00:54:51,330 --> 00:54:53,329
So many people here have lost their homes.
929
00:54:53,410 --> 00:54:54,849
Yeah, I understand, all right?
I understand.
930
00:54:54,930 --> 00:54:57,250
We need some beds.
We don’t have enough beds here.
931
00:54:57,329 --> 00:54:58,770
-We need more help.
-Shh, shh, we understand that.
932
00:54:58,849 --> 00:55:00,809
It’s okay. It’s okay.
933
00:55:00,889 --> 00:55:03,329
How come we only had four trucks
934
00:55:03,409 --> 00:55:06,009
to defend our town, Mr. Prime Minister?
935
00:55:06,089 --> 00:55:09,009
Fuck, you’re an idiot, mate.
You really are.
936
00:55:09,089 --> 00:55:10,929
You won’t be getting
any votes down here, buddy.
937
00:55:11,009 --> 00:55:12,249
- You control the funding.
- You’re an idiot.
938
00:55:12,329 --> 00:55:13,689
What about the people around here?
939
00:55:13,769 --> 00:55:15,449
- No, I’m pissed off!
- What about the people
940
00:55:15,528 --> 00:55:17,769
who are dead now, Mr. Prime Minister?
941
00:55:17,848 --> 00:55:19,969
You’re not welcome, you fuckwit!
942
00:55:21,168 --> 00:55:23,169
Are you from the media?
943
00:55:23,248 --> 00:55:26,088
Tell the prime minister to go
and get from Nelligen.
944
00:55:26,169 --> 00:55:29,328
We really enjoy doing this ,
head!
945
00:55:29,408 --> 00:55:31,129
Thank you very much.
946
00:55:33,768 --> 00:55:36,768
The bushfire crisis
ignites on the streets.
947
00:55:36,848 --> 00:55:38,288
Our country is on fire!
948
00:55:38,368 --> 00:55:40,008
We’ve been telling the politicians
949
00:55:40,088 --> 00:55:41,768
the same message for over ten years,
950
00:55:41,847 --> 00:55:43,608
and they are not listening.
951
00:55:43,688 --> 00:55:46,008
We have a prime minister
in denial about climate change.
952
00:55:46,087 --> 00:55:47,487
This is real.
953
00:55:47,568 --> 00:55:49,687
We will rise! We will rise!
954
00:55:49,768 --> 00:55:52,447
Australians started
coming out on the street
955
00:55:52,528 --> 00:55:55,567
at such short notice
to really demand change.
956
00:55:55,648 --> 00:55:58,087
People were angry,
and people were scared for their lives.
957
00:55:58,167 --> 00:56:02,447
And I think it shows how bloody angry
everyone is here in Australia.
958
00:56:02,527 --> 00:56:06,847
An estimated 20,000
demand action on climate policy.
959
00:56:06,927 --> 00:56:08,726
It was people taking a stand.
960
00:56:08,807 --> 00:56:11,367
People who hadn’t really listed climate
among their priorities.
961
00:56:11,447 --> 00:56:15,046
I’ll set Australia’s policies
consistent with what I believe
962
00:56:15,127 --> 00:56:16,607
and my government believes
is in Australia’s national interests.
963
00:56:16,686 --> 00:56:18,206
But hasn’t... Sorry to interrupt,
964
00:56:18,287 --> 00:56:20,047
but hasn’t that changed a bit?
965
00:56:20,126 --> 00:56:22,046
Look, I’m-I’m someone who...
who was probably on board
966
00:56:22,127 --> 00:56:24,447
with what you took to the... to the polls
wh-when you went.
967
00:56:24,526 --> 00:56:28,366
I think now, though, that I’m part
of a growing groundswell of support who...
968
00:56:28,447 --> 00:56:31,446
people think that more needs to be done,
that now is the time for action.
969
00:56:31,526 --> 00:56:33,406
It’s not a time to sit around
and keep-keep chatting
970
00:56:33,486 --> 00:56:35,726
and saying that we’ll
discuss this down the track.
971
00:56:35,806 --> 00:56:38,526
When this big realization
972
00:56:38,606 --> 00:56:42,966
started to come through
that we couldn’t just put
973
00:56:43,046 --> 00:56:47,086
greenhouse gas emissions
into the atmosphere for nothing,
974
00:56:47,165 --> 00:56:48,925
this was a big shock.
975
00:56:49,006 --> 00:56:51,486
Key National Party
figures have hit out at a push
976
00:56:51,565 --> 00:56:55,525
for the Morrison government to promise
zero carbon emissions by 2050.
977
00:56:55,606 --> 00:56:57,445
Why not be aspirational?
978
00:56:57,526 --> 00:56:59,125
Why not have a bold target?
979
00:57:01,165 --> 00:57:03,645
But I think just as people thought
980
00:57:03,725 --> 00:57:06,805
that we might finally
have a serious debate
981
00:57:06,885 --> 00:57:10,885
about climate change policy
in this country, COVID hit.
982
00:57:25,684 --> 00:57:27,764
I watched in sore amazement
983
00:57:27,844 --> 00:57:30,604
as the Morrison government
dealt with the COVID crisis.
984
00:57:32,844 --> 00:57:35,684
There they were listening
to the chief health officer.
985
00:57:37,004 --> 00:57:39,764
In fact, Australia declared a pandemic
986
00:57:39,844 --> 00:57:42,003
12 days before
the World Health Organization did.
987
00:57:42,084 --> 00:57:45,843
Hotel quarantine
for all travelers entering Australia
988
00:57:45,924 --> 00:57:47,243
is now well underway,
989
00:57:47,323 --> 00:57:50,243
as the Army enforces
the strict mandatory isolation.
990
00:57:52,244 --> 00:57:54,203
We had this very severe lockdown
991
00:57:54,284 --> 00:57:56,283
that had enormous economic impact.
992
00:57:56,364 --> 00:57:58,763
The government became
a socialist government overnight,
993
00:57:58,843 --> 00:58:02,083
subsidizing people’s wages and so forth.
994
00:58:02,163 --> 00:58:05,643
The spending in response
to coronavirus has been historic.
995
00:58:05,723 --> 00:58:07,723
Now, they were hard yards
for any government to do,
996
00:58:07,803 --> 00:58:10,323
but to see a right-leaning government
do them amazed me.
997
00:58:14,963 --> 00:58:16,243
And I thought, "Oh, this is great.
998
00:58:16,323 --> 00:58:18,922
We might actually get some action
on climate change as well."
999
00:58:19,002 --> 00:58:21,002
Given the Bushfires,
which scarified everybody.
1000
00:58:21,082 --> 00:58:22,963
I mean, we’ve seen government act.
1001
00:58:23,042 --> 00:58:24,682
Now we know how it can be done.
1002
00:58:24,762 --> 00:58:26,642
We’re getting a snapshot of
1003
00:58:26,722 --> 00:58:28,242
our post-coronavirus economy.
1004
00:58:28,322 --> 00:58:30,882
And in startling news, the figures rival
1005
00:58:30,962 --> 00:58:32,442
the years after World War II.
1006
00:58:33,442 --> 00:58:37,122
Australia did a very
interesting thing when people were looking
1007
00:58:37,202 --> 00:58:39,122
at the economic recovery.
1008
00:58:39,202 --> 00:58:43,281
What is the world going to do
to come out of the COVID recession?
1009
00:58:45,481 --> 00:58:49,962
People started talking about
a green COVID recovery.
1010
00:58:51,121 --> 00:58:55,961
We can’t go from the COVID frying pan
into the climate fire.
1011
00:58:56,041 --> 00:58:58,961
We’re facing the biggest economic
fight-back of our generation,
1012
00:58:59,041 --> 00:59:00,521
and for many, the big question is:
1013
00:59:00,601 --> 00:59:02,281
Where do we get our energy from?
1014
00:59:02,361 --> 00:59:04,081
And where do we find our new jobs?
1015
00:59:04,161 --> 00:59:07,161
76,000 jobs in Australia
could have been created
1016
00:59:07,241 --> 00:59:08,361
with renewables.
1017
00:59:08,441 --> 00:59:10,361
There’s just so much could have been done.
1018
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:13,641
Instead, the prime minister got up
1019
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,320
and talked about a gas-led recovery.
1020
00:59:16,401 --> 00:59:17,840
Thanks very much.
1021
00:59:17,921 --> 00:59:19,841
There is no credible energy
transition plan
1022
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,880
for an economy like Australia’s
1023
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:24,640
that does not involve
the greater use of gas.
1024
00:59:25,641 --> 00:59:27,480
So, yeah, ladies and gentlemen,
1025
00:59:27,561 --> 00:59:29,360
moms and dads, boys and girls,
1026
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:31,840
let’s extract more methane.
1027
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,360
Got to get the gas.
1028
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,200
We must unlock new sources of supply.
1029
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,720
We must get additional gas to market
1030
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,640
as efficiently as possible.
1031
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,599
I sat there
watching the speech on television,
1032
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,440
and I waited for the prime minister
1033
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:49,640
to use the words "climate change."
1034
00:59:49,719 --> 00:59:52,039
I appreciate your patience this morning.
1035
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:54,479
I waited for him to explain
1036
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,719
how climate change fitted in
1037
00:59:57,799 --> 00:59:59,479
to this gas-led recovery.
1038
00:59:59,559 --> 01:00:04,639
His speech went on and on and on
right till the end.
1039
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:06,359
He does not use the words
1040
01:00:06,439 --> 01:00:07,719
"climate change."
1041
01:00:07,799 --> 01:00:10,479
He never mentions
the words "climate change."
1042
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:12,838
We’ve got to get the gas.
1043
01:00:12,919 --> 01:00:15,519
He was sending a message:
1044
01:00:15,598 --> 01:00:20,599
We are gonna double down
on our bet on fossil fuels.
1045
01:00:21,758 --> 01:00:23,158
Mike Cannon-Brookes, uh,
1046
01:00:23,239 --> 01:00:24,238
it’s not good enough, is it?
1047
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:26,799
Um, look, it’s-it’s the
standard set of talking points.
1048
01:00:26,878 --> 01:00:28,838
I find it... I find it
laughable when politicians...
1049
01:00:28,918 --> 01:00:30,758
sorry, Darren, no offense...
uh, say that they’re not
1050
01:00:30,838 --> 01:00:32,678
into long-term planning,
they don’t know how to do that.
1051
01:00:32,758 --> 01:00:33,798
That’s-that’s the job.
1052
01:00:33,878 --> 01:00:35,158
We’re trying to plan what the nation’s
1053
01:00:35,238 --> 01:00:37,078
gonna do in the next ten, 20 and 30 years.
1054
01:00:37,158 --> 01:00:39,638
I think we-we need to sort of
raise a conversation, right?
1055
01:00:39,717 --> 01:00:41,958
We need to have a broader vision
for Australia.
1056
01:00:42,037 --> 01:00:44,557
I think we could be
a renewable energy superpower.
1057
01:00:44,637 --> 01:00:46,518
It’s news that came in from the sidelines
1058
01:00:46,597 --> 01:00:48,598
of the UN Climate Summit in New York.
1059
01:00:48,677 --> 01:00:52,757
The Australian tech billionaire
Mike Cannon-Brookes confirming
1060
01:00:52,838 --> 01:00:55,997
he’ll be investing in
the world’s biggest solar farm.
1061
01:00:59,797 --> 01:01:02,997
Australia has a DNA of exporting energy.
1062
01:01:04,277 --> 01:01:06,117
That’s the way we should tell the story.
1063
01:01:07,997 --> 01:01:09,557
Why do we export energy?
1064
01:01:11,637 --> 01:01:13,756
We have a lot of resources.
1065
01:01:14,797 --> 01:01:16,876
So, instead of digging them
out of the ground,
1066
01:01:16,957 --> 01:01:18,917
what if we got them out of the sky?
1067
01:01:19,956 --> 01:01:23,356
We have a land mass
larger than the continental United States.
1068
01:01:23,437 --> 01:01:26,436
We’re the sunniest country
outside of sub-Saharan Africa.
1069
01:01:26,516 --> 01:01:30,116
You could power the entire planet
five times over just from Australia.
1070
01:01:31,196 --> 01:01:33,316
You’re pretty hooked into global markets.
1071
01:01:33,396 --> 01:01:35,196
- Yep.
- Um, where is coal going,
1072
01:01:35,276 --> 01:01:36,876
from your perspective?
1073
01:01:36,956 --> 01:01:39,156
Um, oh, it’s going away.
1074
01:01:40,755 --> 01:01:42,196
Quite simply, look, I mean...
1075
01:01:42,275 --> 01:01:44,396
I don’t care what you think
about the climate.
1076
01:01:44,475 --> 01:01:46,596
We will need to pivot
1077
01:01:46,675 --> 01:01:50,275
from exporting coal and gas
to exporting renewable energy,
1078
01:01:50,355 --> 01:01:53,476
because the rest of the planet
will start figuring this out.
1079
01:01:53,555 --> 01:01:56,115
And as it does,
we are left exporting things
1080
01:01:56,195 --> 01:01:57,995
that no one else needs.
1081
01:01:58,075 --> 01:01:59,275
We can see that coming,
1082
01:01:59,355 --> 01:02:02,475
but we haven’t gotten
that storytelling through
1083
01:02:02,555 --> 01:02:05,755
when it comes to the myth
that Australia needs fossil fuels.
1084
01:02:06,875 --> 01:02:09,475
That is challenging
to our national psyche.
1085
01:02:12,554 --> 01:02:15,154
In Australia, you cannot talk
1086
01:02:15,235 --> 01:02:17,595
about electricity generation
1087
01:02:17,674 --> 01:02:19,474
and ignore coal.
1088
01:02:19,554 --> 01:02:23,114
Coal will continue to play
an important role
1089
01:02:23,194 --> 01:02:25,794
in our economy for decades to come.
1090
01:02:25,874 --> 01:02:27,634
That means jobs.
1091
01:02:31,714 --> 01:02:33,634
We’re sort of seeing these communities
1092
01:02:33,714 --> 01:02:35,074
staring down the barrel of a gun.
1093
01:02:37,714 --> 01:02:41,353
Politicians on both sides of parliament
say that they’re standing up
1094
01:02:41,434 --> 01:02:43,394
for these communities,
but I would question that,
1095
01:02:43,474 --> 01:02:46,353
because I think that they’re lying
to these communities.
1096
01:02:48,194 --> 01:02:51,233
My grandfather was a coal mining engineer.
1097
01:02:53,113 --> 01:02:55,713
He came to Australia in the ’70s
with his then wife.
1098
01:02:55,793 --> 01:02:57,433
Dramatic divorce.
1099
01:03:00,473 --> 01:03:03,113
In the ’80s, he was made redundant,
1100
01:03:03,193 --> 01:03:05,632
and so, all of a sudden,
he was left without a job.
1101
01:03:05,713 --> 01:03:08,672
Something that his, you know,
family had been working in
1102
01:03:08,753 --> 01:03:10,273
for a couple of generations.
1103
01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:13,992
Something that had been
an integral part of his identity.
1104
01:03:16,192 --> 01:03:19,313
Like, we were really close,
and he used to tell these stories
1105
01:03:19,392 --> 01:03:21,192
about his time down in the mines
1106
01:03:21,272 --> 01:03:23,512
and about his friends,
about what it meant to him.
1107
01:03:30,352 --> 01:03:33,672
I’ve had the fortune to learn
about these experiences,
1108
01:03:33,751 --> 01:03:37,952
to learn about having this economic
dependence on this industry
1109
01:03:38,032 --> 01:03:40,871
and as a town having
that dependence on that industry.
1110
01:03:42,752 --> 01:03:43,992
I really want to see a pathway
1111
01:03:44,071 --> 01:03:46,791
for these communities out of fossil fuels.
1112
01:03:49,591 --> 01:03:51,711
Being proud
of that industry is not a problem.
1113
01:03:54,711 --> 01:03:56,471
Mining is not a bad thing.
1114
01:03:56,551 --> 01:03:59,071
We need mining in Australia.
1115
01:03:59,151 --> 01:04:03,391
If you want to build batteries and panels
and wind turbines, guess what you need:
1116
01:04:03,471 --> 01:04:06,031
steel, gold, copper, nickel,
1117
01:04:06,110 --> 01:04:09,430
rare earths, lithium, obviously silver.
1118
01:04:09,511 --> 01:04:11,190
We have a lot of all of those
in Australia.
1119
01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:16,830
So that’s why we try to tell the story
and say,
1120
01:04:16,911 --> 01:04:18,750
look, it’s about energy
that we’ve been exporting.
1121
01:04:18,831 --> 01:04:20,351
We can continue to do that.
1122
01:04:22,350 --> 01:04:25,950
But we need to prove
that we can export renewable energy
1123
01:04:26,030 --> 01:04:28,589
in a massive way in large quantities.
1124
01:04:28,670 --> 01:04:31,550
If you think about exporting sun and wind,
it’s a little difficult, right?
1125
01:04:31,630 --> 01:04:33,829
We’re not gonna put up a giant mirror
and send it somewhere else.
1126
01:04:33,910 --> 01:04:35,270
We’re not gonna, like, turn the wind
1127
01:04:35,350 --> 01:04:39,230
and blow it somehow other ways
that they catch it on the other side.
1128
01:04:39,309 --> 01:04:41,150
So we need to figure out how to do this.
1129
01:04:41,229 --> 01:04:43,829
This is a problem
that Australia needs to solve.
1130
01:04:43,910 --> 01:04:45,550
The best part about this project...
1131
01:04:45,629 --> 01:04:47,869
it’s about 22 billion
Australian dollars, roughly...
1132
01:04:47,949 --> 01:04:49,509
is it’s possible.
1133
01:04:50,989 --> 01:04:52,829
Australian tech billionaire
Mike Cannon-Brookes
1134
01:04:52,909 --> 01:04:56,029
has announced plans to create
the world’s biggest solar farm...
1135
01:04:56,109 --> 01:04:57,589
And it’s aiming to generate power
1136
01:04:57,669 --> 01:05:00,389
and transmit that over to Singapore.
1137
01:05:00,469 --> 01:05:03,229
We’re dealing with
a vast amount of power here
1138
01:05:03,308 --> 01:05:05,508
that needs to move over a vast distance...
1139
01:05:05,589 --> 01:05:07,349
3,500 kilometers...
1140
01:05:07,428 --> 01:05:09,429
through some pretty hairy waters.
1141
01:05:09,508 --> 01:05:14,708
So, in between the world’s largest
solar farm and the world’s longest
1142
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:17,588
undersea high-voltage DC cable,
1143
01:05:17,669 --> 01:05:21,188
we also need to build
the world’s largest battery.
1144
01:05:24,188 --> 01:05:27,108
If this works... which it will...
1145
01:05:27,188 --> 01:05:30,027
there will be 50 cables
from Australia to Asia
1146
01:05:30,108 --> 01:05:32,948
exporting massive amounts of energy.
1147
01:05:33,028 --> 01:05:37,628
We’ve got one of the best resources
to go to for the future of the planet
1148
01:05:37,707 --> 01:05:39,267
without changing our DNA.
1149
01:05:41,067 --> 01:05:43,267
It’s the entire planet
that is being challenged here.
1150
01:05:43,347 --> 01:05:45,867
It is the existential crisis
for the human race.
1151
01:05:45,947 --> 01:05:47,787
Climate change is affecting
the Australian economy.
1152
01:05:47,867 --> 01:05:49,267
It’s affecting businesses.
It’s affecting individuals.
1153
01:05:49,348 --> 01:05:52,627
I think it’s not an issue that business
should have its head in the sand on,
1154
01:05:52,707 --> 01:05:56,387
and that means they should be speaking out
in a government vacuum.
1155
01:05:56,467 --> 01:05:59,987
I think there is no doubt that
we are at a turning point in Australia
1156
01:06:00,066 --> 01:06:01,387
when it comes to climate change.
1157
01:06:01,467 --> 01:06:04,547
Some Australian companies
are powering forward
1158
01:06:04,626 --> 01:06:07,066
with a massive energy transition.
1159
01:06:07,147 --> 01:06:10,867
But what people don’t really understand
is the absolute urgency of this.
1160
01:06:13,867 --> 01:06:16,227
Today, average global temperatures
1161
01:06:16,306 --> 01:06:19,786
are about 1.1 degree above
what’s called the pre-industrial average.
1162
01:06:19,866 --> 01:06:22,506
So, where they were
200 years ago, basically.
1163
01:06:22,586 --> 01:06:24,066
Australia, however,
1164
01:06:24,146 --> 01:06:25,986
because it’s so sensitive
to climate change,
1165
01:06:26,066 --> 01:06:28,305
is already at almost
1.5 degrees of warming.
1166
01:06:31,106 --> 01:06:34,905
We knew that we would start feeling
the impacts before anyone else.
1167
01:06:37,385 --> 01:06:41,345
We are facing a new and terrifying future
in Australia, in terms of Bushfires.
1168
01:06:43,185 --> 01:06:48,825
We might expect Black Summer conditions
once every 400 years in the past.
1169
01:06:48,905 --> 01:06:51,705
From now on,
we can expect it once every eight years.
1170
01:06:54,665 --> 01:06:56,745
Our climate has changed forever.
1171
01:06:56,825 --> 01:07:00,025
I’ll never see it go back
to what it was when I was a kid.
1172
01:07:01,465 --> 01:07:03,665
We’re getting weather now
that no human being
1173
01:07:03,745 --> 01:07:05,744
has ever seen on this continent.
1174
01:07:07,424 --> 01:07:11,864
In 2019, there was one fire
near the Victorian border
1175
01:07:11,944 --> 01:07:15,944
where a Pyro-convective storm
picked up an eight-ton fire truck,
1176
01:07:16,025 --> 01:07:19,464
dropped it on its roof
and a young firefighter lost...
1177
01:07:22,904 --> 01:07:25,184
Yeah, he was killed, so...
1178
01:07:28,184 --> 01:07:32,064
Sorry, it’s-it’s tough for firefighters
to think of other firefighters, you know,
1179
01:07:32,144 --> 01:07:36,184
losing their lives in the line of duty,
and nine did in the last fires.
1180
01:07:39,984 --> 01:07:41,863
I’ve been around the world.
1181
01:07:41,944 --> 01:07:44,143
I’ve studied Bushfires
and how we deal with things.
1182
01:07:44,223 --> 01:07:47,023
We can’t deal with
the worst years anymore.
1183
01:07:48,343 --> 01:07:51,543
We’re having fires
in places like Greenland,
1184
01:07:51,623 --> 01:07:53,503
the Arctic Circle,
1185
01:07:53,583 --> 01:07:55,543
where they never used to happen before.
1186
01:07:59,223 --> 01:08:01,623
And I look at California.
1187
01:08:02,623 --> 01:08:06,463
Twice as much area burnt
as their worst ever fire season.
1188
01:08:11,143 --> 01:08:13,422
Oregon was on fire.
1189
01:08:13,502 --> 01:08:15,062
Washington state.
1190
01:08:16,062 --> 01:08:17,982
The whole West Coast.
1191
01:08:22,822 --> 01:08:24,662
There’s something wrong.
1192
01:08:24,741 --> 01:08:27,022
There’s something really wrong.
1193
01:08:30,742 --> 01:08:33,502
Climate change scares the shit out of me.
1194
01:08:35,581 --> 01:08:37,462
We can’t stop a lot of the global warming
1195
01:08:37,541 --> 01:08:38,982
that’s built into the system now.
1196
01:08:39,061 --> 01:08:40,902
There’s a certain amount of change
that’s inevitable,
1197
01:08:40,981 --> 01:08:43,701
and it-it’s extremely important
that people understand that
1198
01:08:43,782 --> 01:08:46,821
and understand what the impacts of that
really mean on their lives.
1199
01:08:46,901 --> 01:08:49,501
We are so close now
to some of the tipping points
1200
01:08:49,581 --> 01:08:51,581
that I wrote about
when I wrote The Weather Makers
1201
01:08:51,661 --> 01:08:54,341
all those years ago, committing the world
1202
01:08:54,421 --> 01:08:56,700
to 1.5 degrees of warming by about 2030.
1203
01:08:56,781 --> 01:08:59,980
What does 1.5 degrees Celsius look like?
1204
01:09:00,061 --> 01:09:02,101
1.5 degrees is a world where
1205
01:09:02,180 --> 01:09:04,140
we will have significant impacts
from heat waves,
1206
01:09:04,221 --> 01:09:06,101
megafires and all of the other things.
1207
01:09:07,221 --> 01:09:10,420
But where the Greenland ice cap
is melting relatively slowly
1208
01:09:10,501 --> 01:09:13,941
and we’re getting sea level rise happening
but at a... at a lower level.
1209
01:09:14,020 --> 01:09:15,340
So it’s not a great world.
1210
01:09:15,420 --> 01:09:18,220
The world we left behind
at one degree of warming
1211
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:20,100
or less than one degree was a lot better.
1212
01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:23,140
But two degrees, by comparison, is hell.
1213
01:09:23,220 --> 01:09:28,340
So, um, we-we need to make sure
we hit that 1.5 degree.
1214
01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:30,540
What does a two-degree world look like?
1215
01:09:30,620 --> 01:09:33,540
A two-degree world
is a world of catastrophe.
1216
01:09:35,699 --> 01:09:39,619
It’s a world where
the Greenland ice cap’s melting rapidly,
1217
01:09:39,699 --> 01:09:41,819
where the West Antarctic Ice Sheet
is decaying
1218
01:09:41,899 --> 01:09:43,939
and therefore sea level is rising rapidly.
1219
01:09:47,939 --> 01:09:49,979
It’s a world where
the Amazon rain forest is dying
1220
01:09:50,059 --> 01:09:52,819
and turning into a savanna or a woodland.
1221
01:09:54,099 --> 01:09:56,539
Where the permafrost
is melting away so rapidly
1222
01:09:56,618 --> 01:09:59,658
that massive amounts of methane
are being put into the atmosphere.
1223
01:09:59,739 --> 01:10:01,339
And then no matter what we do,
1224
01:10:01,418 --> 01:10:03,579
the temperature’s just
gonna keep on spiraling.
1225
01:10:09,658 --> 01:10:12,698
It’s a world of massive disruption.
1226
01:10:12,779 --> 01:10:16,658
Our economy, our food security,
our water security,
1227
01:10:16,738 --> 01:10:20,258
our peace will be threatened
by unprecedented change.
1228
01:10:24,578 --> 01:10:26,937
So, what should we do?
1229
01:10:27,018 --> 01:10:29,017
Sure, put some solar panels on your roof
1230
01:10:29,098 --> 01:10:31,258
and cut your emissions...
that is fantastic...
1231
01:10:31,337 --> 01:10:32,857
but never let the fossil fuel industry
1232
01:10:32,938 --> 01:10:34,698
or anyone else tell you
that that’s enough.
1233
01:10:34,777 --> 01:10:36,618
Right? It’s not my problem
as an individual.
1234
01:10:36,697 --> 01:10:39,297
It’s a collective problem we have,
and we need to act collectively
1235
01:10:39,378 --> 01:10:41,137
to find a solution.
1236
01:10:42,697 --> 01:10:44,457
And we’re not seeing that.
1237
01:10:44,537 --> 01:10:48,137
We’ve got states operating separately,
companies operating separately,
1238
01:10:48,217 --> 01:10:50,777
and we can’t guarantee
what the outcome will be.
1239
01:10:50,857 --> 01:10:53,457
This is a moment that needs leadership.
1240
01:10:53,536 --> 01:10:54,737
It really does.
1241
01:10:54,817 --> 01:10:57,497
We can all act and do our part,
but without government leadership,
1242
01:10:57,577 --> 01:10:59,777
it’s just not going to be done.
1243
01:10:59,856 --> 01:11:03,456
The prime minister
is feeling the heat on climate change
1244
01:11:03,537 --> 01:11:05,817
ahead of a UN summit of world leaders.
1245
01:11:05,896 --> 01:11:07,736
The pressure is growing on Scott Morrison
1246
01:11:07,816 --> 01:11:10,856
to commit to a target
of net-zero emissions by 2050.
1247
01:11:10,937 --> 01:11:14,856
Will you commit Australia to achieving
1248
01:11:14,936 --> 01:11:16,896
a net-zero emissions target by 2050?
1249
01:11:16,976 --> 01:11:19,056
Well, as you know,
our policy is to achieve that
1250
01:11:19,136 --> 01:11:21,496
in the second half of-of this century.
1251
01:11:21,576 --> 01:11:23,736
Well, as-as I outlined,
1252
01:11:23,816 --> 01:11:25,936
we’re seeking to get to net-zero.
1253
01:11:26,016 --> 01:11:28,736
Um, we’d preferably would like
to see that happen
1254
01:11:28,815 --> 01:11:30,256
by 2050, as I’ve said.
1255
01:11:30,335 --> 01:11:33,735
It could happen sooner
with significant technological change.
1256
01:11:33,816 --> 01:11:36,576
But I’ll tell you,
if there isn’t the technological change,
1257
01:11:36,655 --> 01:11:38,815
then it’s just a bit of paper.
1258
01:11:40,016 --> 01:11:42,455
It’s like this government
just doesn’t care.
1259
01:11:45,535 --> 01:11:47,935
I don’t get it,
because that’s what motivates me
1260
01:11:48,015 --> 01:11:49,775
is thinking of the future.
1261
01:11:53,614 --> 01:11:56,175
I worked in public service for many years.
1262
01:11:58,055 --> 01:12:00,575
You make a lot of sacrifices,
and you don’t get rich.
1263
01:12:00,655 --> 01:12:02,455
So it’s a bit of a calling,
1264
01:12:02,534 --> 01:12:04,975
and it’s about the greater good.
1265
01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:07,774
My career was fixing up
other people’s problems.
1266
01:12:07,855 --> 01:12:10,294
...could be seen from
about 50 kilometers away.
1267
01:12:10,374 --> 01:12:13,294
Uh, the-the flames were
15, 20 meters into the air.
1268
01:12:13,374 --> 01:12:15,254
When it all turns to shit,
1269
01:12:15,334 --> 01:12:16,934
they call the fire brigade,
1270
01:12:17,014 --> 01:12:19,334
and we turn up and we make things better.
1271
01:12:20,893 --> 01:12:24,574
I remember turning up
to a blazing warehouse one night
1272
01:12:24,654 --> 01:12:26,694
with an old, experienced station officer.
1273
01:12:26,774 --> 01:12:28,134
I was a pretty young firefighter.
1274
01:12:28,214 --> 01:12:29,934
I said, "What do we do?" And he said,
1275
01:12:30,014 --> 01:12:31,294
"How do you eat an elephant, son?
1276
01:12:31,373 --> 01:12:33,293
"You start with the first bite.
1277
01:12:35,093 --> 01:12:37,493
Just start. We’ll work it out as we go."
1278
01:12:39,654 --> 01:12:43,733
So that’s my mindset, and that’s what
we’ve got to do with climate change.
1279
01:12:44,733 --> 01:12:46,933
So we just don’t wait
for the climate denialists.
1280
01:12:47,013 --> 01:12:50,253
If they don’t get it, they don’t get it,
and they probably never will.
1281
01:12:50,333 --> 01:12:53,532
We’ve got a world to save,
and we’re going to do it.
1282
01:12:54,772 --> 01:12:57,013
We’ve got 20 to 30 years of warming,
1283
01:12:57,092 --> 01:12:59,133
and as long as we reduce emissions
1284
01:12:59,213 --> 01:13:01,853
to zero by 2050, the scientists are saying
1285
01:13:01,932 --> 01:13:06,373
the warming will stabilize
and then gradually start to come down.
1286
01:13:06,452 --> 01:13:10,653
I won’t see it, but my grandkids will,
and I want to keep them safe.
1287
01:13:12,853 --> 01:13:15,892
It is not okay!
1288
01:13:15,972 --> 01:13:18,412
These people and companies are literally
1289
01:13:18,491 --> 01:13:20,652
burning our futures.
1290
01:13:20,732 --> 01:13:24,411
The climate crisis impacts everyone.
1291
01:13:28,012 --> 01:13:30,451
The one comment
I got more than any other
1292
01:13:30,532 --> 01:13:32,972
"Oh, you give me hope."
1293
01:13:33,051 --> 01:13:35,052
Or: "Your generation is gonna save us."
1294
01:13:35,131 --> 01:13:36,731
I thought, "Great. Thanks."
1295
01:13:36,811 --> 01:13:38,772
We shouldn’t have to be doing this.
1296
01:13:38,851 --> 01:13:43,091
Like, as kids, we’re not equipped
to deal with these, you know, scenarios.
1297
01:13:43,171 --> 01:13:46,571
We should just be focusing
on freaking out about school,
1298
01:13:46,651 --> 01:13:48,651
our next assignment,
our next identity crisis,
1299
01:13:48,731 --> 01:13:51,531
and here we are trying to save the world.
1300
01:13:51,611 --> 01:13:53,971
Are you mad at us?
1301
01:13:54,051 --> 01:13:56,011
Um...
1302
01:13:56,090 --> 01:13:59,011
I’m not angry at the older generations.
1303
01:13:59,090 --> 01:14:03,250
I’m angry at people in power
who spread deliberate lies,
1304
01:14:03,330 --> 01:14:05,050
you know, deliberate misinformation
1305
01:14:05,130 --> 01:14:09,250
to deter people
from demanding what’s right.
1306
01:14:09,330 --> 01:14:12,730
I’m angry at people
who have incredible wealth
1307
01:14:12,810 --> 01:14:16,769
and decades of knowledge
about this brewing crisis
1308
01:14:16,850 --> 01:14:19,130
and decided not only to not do anything
1309
01:14:19,210 --> 01:14:22,570
but to exploit it
for their own self-interests and gain.
1310
01:14:25,409 --> 01:14:27,410
I foresee it being
1311
01:14:27,489 --> 01:14:31,329
the largest obstacle my generation faces,
1312
01:14:31,410 --> 01:14:33,330
in terms of having a safe future
1313
01:14:33,409 --> 01:14:35,489
and being able to have our own kids.
1314
01:14:38,169 --> 01:14:42,169
Like, that’s something I’m wary of,
is having my own kids, um,
1315
01:14:42,249 --> 01:14:44,809
because I don’t want
to bring them into a world
1316
01:14:44,889 --> 01:14:48,329
that’s going to be unsafe, um,
and that isn’t gonna provide them
1317
01:14:48,409 --> 01:14:49,809
with as good a quality of a future
1318
01:14:49,889 --> 01:14:53,609
as I have had the fortune to have.
1319
01:14:53,688 --> 01:14:55,409
-Three, two, one.
-Go.
1320
01:14:56,649 --> 01:14:58,729
’Cause people look at it
as an incredible thing...
1321
01:14:58,809 --> 01:15:01,408
of young people exercising their power,
1322
01:15:01,488 --> 01:15:03,369
exercising their voices.
1323
01:15:03,448 --> 01:15:05,528
- What do we want?
- Climate action!
1324
01:15:05,608 --> 01:15:06,688
-When do we want it?
-Now!
1325
01:15:06,768 --> 01:15:08,608
-What do we want?
-Climate action!
1326
01:15:08,688 --> 01:15:10,528
-When do we want it?
-Now!
1327
01:15:10,608 --> 01:15:12,208
-What do we want?
-Climate action!
1328
01:15:12,288 --> 01:15:13,888
-When do we want it?
-Now!
1329
01:15:15,248 --> 01:15:16,768
But I joined out of,
1330
01:15:16,848 --> 01:15:19,528
like, a feeling of necessity
rather than want.
1331
01:15:21,888 --> 01:15:26,167
And I think it is the most tragic thing
1332
01:15:26,248 --> 01:15:29,568
I’ve ever had the misfortune
to have to be a part of.
1333
01:15:38,887 --> 01:15:40,807
My mother taught me about Country.
1334
01:15:44,527 --> 01:15:47,727
We identify as Aboriginal
because of this, this and that.
1335
01:15:47,807 --> 01:15:49,206
This family, that family, that family.
1336
01:15:50,287 --> 01:15:52,847
It’s pretty obvious that the vast majority
1337
01:15:52,926 --> 01:15:55,087
of my genes are from Cornwall.
1338
01:15:55,167 --> 01:15:58,286
Um, but... and I’ve been to Cornwall,
1339
01:15:58,367 --> 01:16:00,687
but my heart didn’t flutter.
1340
01:16:03,287 --> 01:16:05,166
I came back to Australia, and...
1341
01:16:05,246 --> 01:16:09,086
this is what I know in my blood.
1342
01:16:10,246 --> 01:16:12,566
And all the time, I was writing.
1343
01:16:12,646 --> 01:16:15,286
I’ve written 33 books about the Country.
1344
01:16:18,366 --> 01:16:21,806
The Earth is the mother
of all Aboriginal people.
1345
01:16:22,766 --> 01:16:24,966
And we treat the Earth like our mother.
1346
01:16:25,045 --> 01:16:26,726
That’s our law.
1347
01:16:26,805 --> 01:16:29,926
And if we all respected the Earth
to that degree,
1348
01:16:30,005 --> 01:16:33,886
then we wouldn’t be damaging it
as greatly as we are at the moment.
1349
01:16:43,885 --> 01:16:47,565
I think we’ve been building toward this
for 250 years.
1350
01:16:50,445 --> 01:16:54,325
Europeans had so little respect
for Aboriginal people.
1351
01:16:55,405 --> 01:16:58,125
When the first Europeans came here,
1352
01:16:58,204 --> 01:17:00,684
they found a sweet and open land.
1353
01:17:02,164 --> 01:17:04,004
It was pleasant.
1354
01:17:04,084 --> 01:17:06,805
They said it looks
like a gentlemen’s park.
1355
01:17:06,884 --> 01:17:09,564
And it was a gentlemen’s park,
1356
01:17:09,644 --> 01:17:13,004
because the people here
were gentle men and women.
1357
01:17:15,164 --> 01:17:20,204
But Europeans then stopped the method
that had made it like that.
1358
01:17:23,003 --> 01:17:25,243
Indigenous Australians managed this land
1359
01:17:25,324 --> 01:17:27,244
for 40,000 years at least.
1360
01:17:30,003 --> 01:17:32,083
And it was carefully curated.
1361
01:17:35,083 --> 01:17:37,683
And then the Europeans came along.
1362
01:17:37,763 --> 01:17:40,923
We took the fire stick out of the hand
of Aboriginal people,
1363
01:17:41,003 --> 01:17:44,203
and we changed the landscape dramatically.
1364
01:17:51,483 --> 01:17:54,363
Now we are facing consequences
in terms of these huge Bushfires
1365
01:17:54,442 --> 01:17:55,922
that result from climate change,
1366
01:17:56,003 --> 01:17:59,642
and we have to recognize
that the land has really changed.
1367
01:18:01,282 --> 01:18:05,962
And that the old practices may not be
entirely effective in the new regime.
1368
01:18:08,482 --> 01:18:10,722
And we need to learn together again
1369
01:18:10,802 --> 01:18:14,882
really how to manage this land
at that very large scale.
1370
01:18:18,322 --> 01:18:20,682
This is the critical moment for humanity.
1371
01:18:20,761 --> 01:18:22,922
Right? I’m not going to let
my children’s future
1372
01:18:23,002 --> 01:18:25,362
be flushed down the toilet for inaction.
1373
01:18:25,441 --> 01:18:26,841
And whatever I feel internally,
1374
01:18:26,921 --> 01:18:31,361
it’s gonna stay there because,
well, I’m-I’m gonna fight to the last.
1375
01:18:31,441 --> 01:18:34,481
There’s-there’s no moment
where you can say you’ve done enough.
1376
01:18:38,521 --> 01:18:40,401
This is a long conversation.
1377
01:18:42,881 --> 01:18:45,201
We’re gonna hurt each other,
and we’re gonna bruise each other,
1378
01:18:45,281 --> 01:18:46,680
and we have to wear it.
1379
01:18:49,721 --> 01:18:51,001
There’s gonna be disappointment.
1380
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:52,440
There’s gonna be hope.
1381
01:18:52,521 --> 01:18:55,121
All of that’s gonna happen,
and we have to stay patient.
1382
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,601
This argument is such a big argument.
1383
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,920
But I’ve seen really important things done
1384
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,480
in circumstances
where nobody expected it to be done.
1385
01:19:10,480 --> 01:19:12,680
So of course we can do it.
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