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[lawyer 1] We're back
on the video record at 12:02 p.m.
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[Brad Edwards] Let's talk about
Jane Doe 102, Virginia Roberts.
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Do you know Virginia Roberts?
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-So she's... Say again, who?
-[Edwards] Virginia Roberts.
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Can you spell it?
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[Edwards] Common spelling,
Virginia, like the state.
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-Can you spell it for me, please?
-[Edwards] Roberts.
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How is it... What's the last name?
How is it spelled?
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[Edwards] R-O-B-E-R-T-S, I believe.
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Isn't it true that you
and Ghislaine Maxwell
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celebrated her 16th birthday with her
and had sex with her on that day?
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[lawyer 2] Form, compound,
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confusing, argumentative and harassing.
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I'd like to answer that question.
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But today I'm gonna have to assert
my Sixth Amendment rights,
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my Fifth Amendment rights.
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[Edwards] Is it true
that you forced Virginia Roberts
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to have
sex with numerous friends of yours?
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Are you kidding?
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[Giuffre] The first time
I decided to go public,
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it was because I gave birth
to this beautiful baby girl.
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It kind of made me realize
what I had been through
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was still happening to other people
out there.
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It wasn't just me.
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And I looked at my husband,
and I said, "Robbie,
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we can't just sit by
and be silent anymore.
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We've got to do something about it."
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I was sexually abused by Prince Andrew.
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Someone had to put their hand up and say,
like, "He can't just get away with this."
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[suspenseful music]
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[Giuffre] I first met Prince Andrew
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March 10th, 2001,
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in London at Ghislaine's townhouse.
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He knocked on the door,
he came inside Ghislaine's townhouse,
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and we're sitting there having tea.
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Ghislaine has this favorite guessing game
that she does.
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She goes to Prince Andrew,
"How old do you think Virginia is?"
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And he said, "Seventeen."
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And she's like, "Oh, you're right!"
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And, you know,
they, like, made a little joke about it.
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He's like, "My daughters
aren't far from your age.
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My daughters are a bit younger than you.
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We went out for the night.
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Club Tramp in London.
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[electronic music playing]
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And he dances, and he's profusely sweating
over me, and it was disgusting.
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We get back to the townhouse,
and we go upstairs.
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I have this little yellow Kodak camera,
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and, um... I ask Jeffrey to take a photo
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of me and Prince Andrew together.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[Giuffre] And Ghislaine's literally
just, like, right behind me.
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Ghislaine tells me...
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"You're going to have to do for him
what you do for Jeffrey."
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[voice breaking] And it hit me.
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And right after that photo was taken,
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I was sexually abused by Prince Andrew
for the first time.
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[reporter] A former prostitute claims
she was just 17
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when she allegedly had sexual relations
with Prince Andrew.
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[Giuffre] I've been called
a serial prostitute,
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a bad mom, a serial liar,
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a drug addict, every name under the sun.
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The whole Prince Andrew thing,
it was just...
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kaboom.
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And it went from being a harrowing story
about trafficking and abuse
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to completely Prince Andrew.
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I wasn't Prince Andrew's prostitute,
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because I was trafficked to him,
and I was a kid.
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[Sigrid McCawley]
My client Virginia Giuffre
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was trafficked by Epstein almost 30 times
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when she was under the age of 18,
both nationally and internationally.
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Virginia came forward publicly in a filing
in the Crime Victims' Rights Act case.
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In that filing, she made public
some of the individuals who had abused her
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when she was being trafficked
by Jeffrey Epstein.
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One of those individuals
was Alan Dershowitz.
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[Alan Dershowitz] I assure you,
I never had sex with Virginia Roberts.
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Let me state categorically.
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I never had sex with an underage person
in my life.
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Even when I was an underage boy,
I never had sex with an underage girl.
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I never had sex with anyone
related to Jeffrey Epstein.
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I challenge Virginia Roberts
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to come on your show,
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look in the camera,
and say the following words:
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"I accuse Alan Dershowitz
of having had sex with me
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on six or seven occasions."
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She has never been willing
to accuse me in public.
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So please accuse me on this show,
I challenge you.
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[Giuffre] I was with Alan Dershowitz
multiple times.
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At least six that I can remember.
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Well, I was trafficked to Alan Dershowitz
from Epstein. Epstein...
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made me, essentially,
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forced me to.... to have sex with him.
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Every time I was trafficked
was at Epstein or Ghislaine's behest.
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He's denied being with me.
Is one of us telling the truth? Yes.
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Is that person me? Yes.
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[Sarah Ransome] I came forward in 2016
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when the US election started to happen.
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This was completely unplanned.
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-[crowd cheering]
-Thank you, everybody.
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[Ransome] Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton
are both up for election,
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and both candidates for US president
had affiliations with Jeffrey Epstein.
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So I went to almost
every single news channel,
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British media, American media.
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I tried to tell them... I told them
who Jeffrey Epstein was, what he did.
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I told them who Ghislaine was.
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No one would listen.
No one would hear my voice in 2016.
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[message chimes]
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[female reporter 1] This is
a moment in time unlike any other.
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With the Me Too movement,
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women are feeling the ability
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to tell what happened to them,
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some of the worst moments they've lived,
and tell it publicly,
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and that is powerful,
and it is affecting everything,
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and people are looking for justice.
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[Courtney Wild] I remember watching
the TV about the Me Too movement,
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and thinking, "Okay, like, we're next."
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We don't need to feel ashamed
for having survived these things.
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Actually talking about them,
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you know, bringing them into the light
and finding support from each other
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is a huge way towards healing.
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[Chauntae Davies] There's definitely
strength in numbers,
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and I feel like
women feel more comfortable
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to come forward
when they know they're not alone.
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I think we have an unspoken bond
that many people won't ever understand.
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Times have changed in a year,
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such that these accusations
will be listened to in a different way.
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It's an explosive investigative series
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by the Miami Herald reporter
Julie K. Brown, connecting the dots
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between President Trump's labor secretary,
Alexander Acosta,
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and what the Miami Herald calls
"the deal of a lifetime"
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that was given to accused pedophile
Jeffrey Epstein.
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Senate committee on health, education,
labor and pensions
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will please come to order.
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This morning, we're holding
a confirmation hearing
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on the nomination of Alexander Acosta
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to serve as
United States Secretary of Labor.
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[man] I did not hear anything
about Epstein
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until President Trump nominated Acosta
to be Labor Secretary.
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And so, as I was digging
into Acosta's background,
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I came upon information
about the Epstein case.
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I was shocked.
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I'd like to ask you about this.
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"Federal prosecutors detail their findings
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in an 82-page prosecution memo
and a 53-page indictment,
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but Epstein was never indicted."
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And then there's a quote.
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Quote, "This agreement,"
the agreement you described,
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"will not be made part
of any public record,"
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the deal between Epstein and Acosta says.
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At the end of the day,
based on the evidence...
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um... professionals within
a prosecutor's office decide
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that a plea
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that guarantees that someone goes to jail
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and that guarantees other outcomes
is a good thing, and so--
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[Tim Kaine] Was that a consensus decision
in your office?
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It was a broadly held decision.
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[Kaine] It was a secret deal,
as we now know.
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I thought the outrageous nature
of the allegations
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might lead to a vote against him.
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I, Alexander Acosta, do solemnly swear...
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I want to thank President Trump,
Vice President Pence,
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and the members of the Senate
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for the privilege of serving
as Secretary of Labor.
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[crowd cheering, applauding]
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Karen and Chris, you've got to come
take a look at this order.
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[Karen] What happened?
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Judge Marra has issued
his summary judgment ruling.
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What Judge Marra has ruled is
that the federal government
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entered into a conspiracy
with Jeffrey Epstein
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to violate the Crime Victims' Rights Act.
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-This is just fantastic.
-[Karen] Wow.
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-That is great.
-[laughing]
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-Congratulations. Well deserved.
-All right.
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-All right.
-It's a good day.
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[Jack Scarola] There is now in place
a federal order
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that the federal government,
under Alexander Acosta's direction,
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not only failed to inform victims,
but actively misled them.
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That means that there may be
a new hearing in front of a federal judge
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where these victims have a right
to express their opposition to this deal.
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And a judge could decide it was a contract
that was illegal from the outset.
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Epstein has no immunity.
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The federal government has
the right to prosecute you
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and the right to prosecute
your co-conspirators.
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[Edwards] There was this elation
on behalf of the victims that,
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"Hey, look, we won.
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We went up against the government
and Jeffrey Epstein, and we won.
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We proved that you conspired against us,
the victims."
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[Wild] When I heard Judge Marra did rule
in our favor,
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I just felt very accomplished.
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Uh... We'd been fighting for this
for a long time.
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Just to have it in words,
"Your rights were violated, period."
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It was like, "Okay.
Now something's happening."
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[Edwards] It became clear
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that many of the crimes
Jeffrey Epstein had committed in Florida
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originated in New York, and that he likely
had committed these crimes in New York.
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At this stage, the New York investigation
was underway.
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[reporter 1] A federal investigation
shining some new light
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on a controversial plea deal
for a wealthy investor
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accused of molesting
dozens of underage girls.
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[reporter 2] This decision to investigate
reflects the Me Too movement potentially
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touching on the Trump administration
and many other powerful people,
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and most important, of course,
it impacts the women
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who took the risk to come forward.
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[Edwards] Now New York's finally
showing an interest,
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my clients were all on board
and had been all on board for ten years.
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[Michael Reiter] I had heard
that there was an investigation
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by the FBI in New York
and the US Attorney in New York.
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Even though it felt as though
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the victims were completely abandoned
by the entire criminal justice system,
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I never gave up over the years,
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hoping that some measure of justice
would eventually come to the victims.
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[Mike Fisten] I had a pretty good inkling
that something was going to happen
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because the FBI,
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along with the detectives from NYPD,
were down here in Palm Beach,
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interviewing numerous people
over the last three months.
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[Shawna Rivera]
I was contacted by the FBI.
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They told me that they had
this investigation going on in New York,
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and they wanted to get, you know,
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as much information as they could.
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I told them that they needed
to look out for their victims.
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I told them that
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if they were going to do this thing,
they needed to really do it.
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[Davies] I was so angry that
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I just wanted to...
you know, make him pay.
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So at that point, I reached out,
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which led to a five-hour meeting
with the FBI,
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and they flew out to LA to meet with me,
and that was...
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super intense,
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but it finally felt like
we were getting somewhere.
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[Maria Farmer] I had interviewed
with some authorities.
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So we knew they were closing in.
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We were really excited.
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I never, ever thought
that he would be held accountable.
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[police sirens wailing]
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[reporter 1] Big breaking news overnight.
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Jeffrey Epstein arrested
at a New York area airport.
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[reporter 2] Jeffrey Epstein was arrested
at New Jersey's Teterboro Airport
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after returning on a flight from France.
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[reporter 3] The 66-year-old
hedge fund manager was arrested
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on federal charges
related to sex trafficking.
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He has a bond hearing
scheduled for Monday in New York.
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[dramatic music crescendoes]
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[Michelle Licata] When I found out
that he was arrested, I was like,
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"Oh, my God! Like, finally...
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he's going to pay
for everything that he has done.
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I'm going to New York.
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Even though I didn't want to see him,
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I'm going to see him
now that he is in shackles.
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You know, he is
in, like, an orange jumpsuit.
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He is being treated like
every criminal would be treated.
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This has got to be it.
This is when it's going to happen.
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They're gonna start digging into his life
and start pulling out this spider web
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of people that were related to it.
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Oh, he's going to jail.
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This is it."
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[mysterious music]
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[reporter 4] Federal prosecutors
allege that between 2002 and 2005,
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Epstein paid underage girls as young as 14
to have sex with him at his townhouse.
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[speaking Spanish]
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He's a villain, that's it,
and we're here to get rid of him.
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[reporters chattering loudly]
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[man] Shh.
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[camera shutters clicking]
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Good morning.
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I'm Geoff Berman, United States Attorney
for the Southern District of New York.
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Today we announce the unsealing
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of sex trafficking charges
against Jeffrey Epstein.
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[Giuffre] I remember my lawyer calling me
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and saying, "You won't believe this.
Do you have anywhere to sit down?"
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And while the charge conduct
is from a number of years ago,
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it is still profoundly important
to the many alleged victims,
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now young women.
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They deserve their day in court.
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I looked at my phone...
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and then I looked at my phone again.
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And then I looked at my phone,
and then I was like...
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"No."
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I mean, there was a flood of emotions.
I was confused. I was happy.
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Tears of joy were streaming down my face.
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[Geoff Berman] Epstein is charged
in a two-count indictment.
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First, conspiracy
to commit sex trafficking,
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and second, the substantive crime
of sex trafficking of underage girls.
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It somewhat restored my faith
in the criminal justice system
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that was lost by the way the prosecutors
in Florida treated the victims
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and treated the case
back in 2006 and 2007.
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The charges are very serious,
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and they carry with them
a maximum sentence of 45 years in jail,
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which to someone of Epstein's age
is basically a life sentence.
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[Davies] I just could not believe it.
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This all kind of just exploded
all of a sudden,
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but at the same time,
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I also still knew and believed
his power and...
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uh... ability to get himself
out of things.
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I was still kind of...
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wondering how it was going to go,
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and whether or not
they were going to really be able
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to build a case and to prosecute him.
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[police sirens wailing]
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[woman] What's the sitch?
You know what's up?
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-[man] This is Jeffrey Epstein's--
-[woman] Oh, shut up!
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[man] Somebody must have tipped them off
to something else.
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[reporter] New raid video showing
federal agents as they bust open the door
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of his seven-story, 77-million-dollar home
on Manhattan's Upper East Side.
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Inside, investigators found hundreds,
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if not thousands,
of female nude photographs.
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[Haley Robson] I think that he would have
been a little bit more careful,
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and I don't think that there's
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just one set of photos.
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It makes me wonder
if there's photos of myself.
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What do you do with those photos?
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Do you show your friends?
Do you use them to get off?
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All those thoughts crossed my mind.
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Knowing that he had, in fact, kept
tokens like this from women that he had...
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um... you know, abused over the years,
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that really got to me.
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[Edwards] Jeffrey Epstein had no clue
that this case was coming down,
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that there was any investigation
whatsoever into him in New York,
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or he never would've come back
in the country.
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[Shannon Cake] It was interesting.
Not long after he's arrested,
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everyone who had a relationship
with Jeffrey Epstein, suddenly...
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no one really knew him.
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Suddenly,
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"Oh, well, we really weren't friends.
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I knew him in an ancillary way."
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[male reporter] Presidents Trump
and Clinton have quickly moved
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to put some distance
between themselves and Epstein.
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I had a falling out with him
a long time ago.
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I don't think I've spoken to him
for 15 years. I wasn't a fan.
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[female reporter 1] "He's not spoken
to Epstein in well over a decade
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and has never been
to Little St. James Island,
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Epstein's ranch in New Mexico,
or his residence in Florida."
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[female reporter 2]
Flight logs obtained indicate
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that former President Bill Clinton was
on Epstein's private jet at least 26 times
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between 2001 and 2003.
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[Steve Scully] Bill Clinton
has been on that island.
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I saw Bill Clinton sitting with Jeffrey
on the living room porch.
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[Giuffre] I remember having a dinner
with Clinton.
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He was there, and I never saw him
do anything improper.
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I wish, you know, he would just come clean
about, like, "Yeah, I was there. So what?
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Who cares?
I didn't see anything going on."
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[Cake] For years, there had been
a known affiliation and a friendship
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between Jeffrey Epstein and Prince Andrew.
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[camera shutter clicking]
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[Cake] And then, of course, there were
the allegations from Virginia Giuffre.
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And these stories had dogged him
for years.
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So he decides,
"I'll confront them head-on."
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So he sits down with the BBC.
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Because I can tell you, categorically...
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I don't remember meeting her... at all.
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I do not remember
a photograph being taken,
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and I've said consistently
and, um... and frequently...
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that we never had
any sort of sexual contact whatever.
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So I'm sitting outside,
and I'm having my cup of coffee,
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and I'm watching it on my tablet.
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I mean, I wanted to throw my tablet
in the pool.
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[stammering] I've no recollection
of ever meeting her.
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[Giuffre] As a victim,
I think one thing that we ask for is
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some acknowledgment and some remorse.
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This guy didn't have any remorse at all.
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His arrogance about it, I mean...
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The whole "I don't sweat" thing...
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[stammering] I have a peculiar medical
condition, which is that I don't sweat...
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Um... Or I didn't sweat at the time.
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This guy was, like,
profusely sweating all over me, and...
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"I don't remember her.
I've never been upstairs
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at Ghislaine's townhouse."
How did you know that's upstairs?
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She provided a photo
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-of the two of you together.
-Yes.
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[Emily Maitlis]
Your arm was around her waist.
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-[Prince Andrew] Yes.
-You've seen the photo?
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-I've seen the photograph.
-[Maitlis] How do you explain that?
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I can't.
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'Cause I don't... I have no...
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Again, I have absolutely no memory
of that photograph ever being taken.
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[Giuffre] I didn't expect him
to put his hand up and say, "I'm guilty."
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I didn't.
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But some form of remorse
or acknowledgment would have been...
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Would have been better.
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I think it's been universally agreed.
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It was one of the worst mea culpas
ever known to man.
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I mean, if people didn't think
he was guilty before,
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after his interview, I think people
thought that something had happened.
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So I think that kind of backfired on him.
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[Scully]
After Jeffrey Epstein was arrested,
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all of a sudden, the FBI now,
and this task force, they interviewed me.
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They had me look at, uh...
a large series...
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It must have been
60 or 70 photos of people.
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Then they showed me
one of Virginia Roberts,
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but it was a current photo,
and I couldn't identify her.
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But... I was told to check
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a photo that had emerged
out of all of this investigative work,
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and that photo is a photo of Prince Andrew
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with a young blonde girl.
And as soon as I saw her...
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That was the girl that he was kind of,
like, grinding against at the pool.
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She was, at that time,
wearing a bikini bottom.
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That's it.
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But I absolutely can tell you
that the photo of her, in the picture,
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which is her when she is, I think, 17...
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that was Virginia Roberts.
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Epstein should have been
behind bars years ago.
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But, unfortunately,
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Secretary of Labor Alex Acosta
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cut Epstein a sweetheart deal,
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while Acosta was a US attorney
in Florida in 2008.
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I am calling on Secretary Acosta
to resign.
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[camera shutters clicking furiously]
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[Alexander Acosta]
Let me start by reiterating
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that I'm pleased that
the New York prosecution is going forward.
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They've brought these charges based on
new evidence against Jeffrey Epstein,
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who is now a registered sex offender.
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And this is a very, very good thing.
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It's quite unbelievable that Mr. Acosta
could get up there with a straight face
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and talk about how uh... he's happy
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that new charges are brought
by the Southern District of New York,
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which means, essentially, Mr. Acosta
is admitting that it's wonderful
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that another district office was doing
a better investigation than his office did
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and found more victims than he did.
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[Acosta] I called the President
this morning.
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I told him that I thought
the right thing was to step aside.
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I do not think it is right and fair
for this administration's Labor Department
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to have Epstein as a focus.
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Th... This is just totally
a bunch of bullshit.
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It would be selfish for me
to stay in this position.
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[Fisten] He knows that we know now that
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this case was never an ultimatum
to Jeffrey Epstein.
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That this was an indictment
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that the federal government
had against him
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that they decided not to go forward with.
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Now, I know why he resigned today.
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Because he knew, within 24 hours,
the real people that knew the truth
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were going to come forward and say
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that, "Mr. Acosta, you're full of shit.
That's not what happened."
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Excuse my French.
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[menacing music]
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[reporter] A Manhattan judge
is expected to decide
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whether Jeffrey Epstein should be released
on bail ahead of his federal trial.
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Epstein pleaded not guilty.
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His attorneys say he's ready to post
up to 100 million dollars bail.
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And you have victims who say
that they are frightened
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if he is out.
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[chattering]
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[Wild] I was able to fly to New York
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to be present at the court hearings.
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I definitely thought
he would get out on bond,
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just because of how much money he has.
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And it was just like, that's exactly
what happened the first time.
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[Annie Farmer] I didn't even know
if I could get into the court
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because I wasn't sure how it worked, um...
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But I just wanted there
to be somebody there
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to represent the survivors.
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What do you think is the safest route?
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David, I think we should take it that way.
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That way. Yeah, more quiet.
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-Ready?
-Let's go.
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-[Edwards] We're gonna try to get in.
-[McCawley] Let's go. It'll be more quiet.
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They're very courageous and they want
to encourage others to come forward.
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That's why they're here.
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[Wild] That day was crazy.
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Media attention, and it was something
that I never dealt with before.
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[man] Brad, this way.
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[Wild] It was just a lot to take in
all in one day.
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I was terrified. I had never experienced
something like that. I was...
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I was actually, like, holding
Courtney's hand because I was like...
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"Uh... I need to feel some kind of, like,
comfort right now."
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[Wild] Me and Michelle definitely...
It was like soul sisters.
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"We were victims of Jeffrey Epstein,
and here we are.
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There's no more hiding.
You know, it's no more Jane Doe.
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Like, I'm Courtney Wild, and I was
sexually abused by Jeffrey Epstein."
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Michelle said the same thing,
and it was just overwhelming.
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But there's power in more than one person.
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[Licata] I want him to... to look at me,
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and I wanted to be like,
"Do you remember me?
473
00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:54,352
Do you remember my face?
Do you remember anything about me?
474
00:30:54,602 --> 00:30:58,862
Of course you don't remember me,
because there was hundreds like me.
475
00:30:59,315 --> 00:31:04,525
You don't remember me, but, uh!
I'll remember you for the rest of my life.
476
00:31:04,904 --> 00:31:07,624
That's something that I have to remember.
477
00:31:07,699 --> 00:31:11,039
So I want you to take a good look
at my face right now,
478
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,749
and I want you to remember
479
00:31:12,829 --> 00:31:17,789
the people that are going to put you
in prison for the rest of your life."
480
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:22,713
[suspenseful music]
481
00:31:23,715 --> 00:31:27,045
[reporters clamoring]
482
00:31:31,222 --> 00:31:32,602
[man] Brad, we've gotta go soon.
483
00:31:34,642 --> 00:31:36,602
[Licata] You know,
my heart's starting to race,
484
00:31:36,686 --> 00:31:39,146
like, "Oh, my God, this is... This is...
485
00:31:39,772 --> 00:31:44,282
the moment, like, I have kind of dreaded
486
00:31:44,694 --> 00:31:46,494
ten years, 15 years?"
487
00:31:47,906 --> 00:31:50,486
I'm going to see him, and...
488
00:31:51,075 --> 00:31:53,485
I haven't seen him since he was
489
00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:55,913
laying out on a table,
490
00:31:56,664 --> 00:31:59,884
masturbating and going to town on himself.
491
00:31:59,959 --> 00:32:01,339
And, you know,
492
00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:05,759
like, that's the last time
I've actually seen him in person.
493
00:32:07,550 --> 00:32:10,260
[reporters clamoring]
494
00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,635
Stay back, stay back, stay back!
495
00:32:12,722 --> 00:32:15,312
Go back. No. Stay up on the steps.
496
00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,610
[Licata] I was sitting
in the courtroom, and...
497
00:32:21,689 --> 00:32:24,319
I was just... I was so upset.
498
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240
I was... I was crying.
499
00:32:26,361 --> 00:32:28,781
It was super overwhelming, um...
500
00:32:29,614 --> 00:32:33,084
He had, like, a bald spot
on the back of his head.
501
00:32:34,702 --> 00:32:38,542
He was in, like, the jumpsuit.
I was like...
502
00:32:39,582 --> 00:32:42,712
"This is just... This is unbelievable."
503
00:32:50,802 --> 00:32:54,472
[Wild] I got to look at him in the face
in the courtroom and say,
504
00:32:54,555 --> 00:32:58,935
I was sexually abused by him,
by Jeffrey when I was 14,
505
00:32:59,018 --> 00:33:01,348
and to please not give him bond
and stuff like that.
506
00:33:01,437 --> 00:33:04,357
And even though it was
such a short period of time,
507
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,480
it was just a short statement
I got to say,
508
00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:09,897
you know, he still had to look at me
and hear me say that.
509
00:33:12,782 --> 00:33:16,292
[Edwards] His attorneys were offering
hundreds of millions of dollars
510
00:33:16,369 --> 00:33:20,499
for bond money, which should ensure
that he's going to return.
511
00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,875
[McCawley]
It started at 500 million.
512
00:33:23,418 --> 00:33:25,588
They were making offers to the court
513
00:33:25,670 --> 00:33:28,460
in order to try to convince the judge
to let him out.
514
00:33:28,548 --> 00:33:31,588
He'll give all of his wealth,
whatever it takes to get him out.
515
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:36,717
[Edwards] But then the prosecutors
presented additional evidence.
516
00:33:37,432 --> 00:33:38,642
When they broke into the home,
517
00:33:38,725 --> 00:33:41,185
and they found child pornography
in his safe,
518
00:33:41,644 --> 00:33:46,404
they also found a number of other things,
diamonds, passports that were false.
519
00:33:47,734 --> 00:33:49,864
[Edwards] The diamonds, passport...
520
00:33:49,944 --> 00:33:51,534
It looks like an escape plan.
521
00:33:52,071 --> 00:33:53,871
He's had an escape plan forever.
522
00:33:58,161 --> 00:33:59,501
[woman] Ha!
523
00:33:59,579 --> 00:34:01,619
-Good shit.
-[cameraman] What happened?
524
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:02,786
He's not getting out,
525
00:34:02,874 --> 00:34:07,214
and this means he'll probably spend
the rest of his life in jail.
526
00:34:07,754 --> 00:34:10,924
[McCawley] We're thrilled today
with the ruling by Judge Berman.
527
00:34:11,007 --> 00:34:14,507
Only by taking away the freedom
of Jeffrey Epstein
528
00:34:14,594 --> 00:34:17,564
can we restore the freedom
of these victims.
529
00:34:17,638 --> 00:34:20,638
No bail for Jeffrey Epstein,
the judge agreeing with the government
530
00:34:20,725 --> 00:34:22,845
that Epstein presents
a danger to the community
531
00:34:22,935 --> 00:34:24,685
and also an extreme risk of flight.
532
00:34:24,771 --> 00:34:27,361
[Musgrave] He also talked a lot
about the community can't be safe.
533
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,820
He was a danger to the community.
534
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:32,780
And he was very, uh... moved
by the statements by the two victims.
535
00:34:34,405 --> 00:34:36,865
[Tim Malloy] This is a guy
who manipulated, threatened,
536
00:34:36,949 --> 00:34:39,199
uh... bought his way
in and out of trouble.
537
00:34:39,827 --> 00:34:44,287
And now, for the first time in a jail cell
in Lower Manhattan,
538
00:34:44,373 --> 00:34:47,093
it looks like there was no way
to buy his way out.
539
00:34:58,096 --> 00:35:02,016
[Robson] With everything coming out again
and having to go through and relive it,
540
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:02,930
I'm scared.
541
00:35:03,017 --> 00:35:04,847
Scared to be dragged
through the media again.
542
00:35:05,895 --> 00:35:07,515
It's just been a roller coaster.
543
00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:10,977
I've been up and down every day.
544
00:35:11,776 --> 00:35:15,446
I have been sick to my stomach.
Um... I've cried a lot.
545
00:35:16,030 --> 00:35:18,160
I mean, I think we can all assume
with his...
546
00:35:18,866 --> 00:35:20,866
reach, and his planes, and his wealth,
547
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:25,292
he could very well walk out the front door
and we could never see him again.
548
00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:30,628
And I'm hoping that after this time,
549
00:35:31,212 --> 00:35:35,932
um, that it's the final time,
and that he actually does not get out.
550
00:35:40,513 --> 00:35:42,523
[suspenseful music grows]
551
00:35:50,314 --> 00:35:53,534
[Annie Farmer] I was laying on the sofa
and kind of drifting in an out of sleep,
552
00:35:53,609 --> 00:35:57,569
and, um... my husband came
and sat next to me,
553
00:35:57,655 --> 00:36:01,655
and he woke me up, like, you know,
in a way that I knew something was wrong.
554
00:36:01,742 --> 00:36:03,242
And he said, "I have some hard news."
555
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,170
[male reporter 1] The disgraced financier
Jeffrey Epstein is dead.
556
00:36:11,252 --> 00:36:14,632
Epstein took his own life
while behind bars here in New York City,
557
00:36:14,714 --> 00:36:16,724
while facing charges of sex trafficking.
558
00:36:17,592 --> 00:36:19,182
"Committed suicide? What?
559
00:36:20,011 --> 00:36:21,431
How is that possible?"
560
00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:25,807
[male reporter 1] What we know is
at some point this morning,
561
00:36:25,892 --> 00:36:29,312
the Bureau of Prisons and prison officials
found Jeffrey Epstein in his cell.
562
00:36:29,395 --> 00:36:31,935
Apparently, he had hanged himself.
563
00:36:33,316 --> 00:36:34,896
[Maria Farmer] I was kind of in shock.
564
00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,323
It didn't hit me for maybe a couple hours,
565
00:36:38,404 --> 00:36:40,744
and then I got really, really angry
566
00:36:40,823 --> 00:36:45,083
that I couldn't face him and tell him
what he'd done to me and my life.
567
00:36:47,997 --> 00:36:50,037
[male reporter 2] His body
in that van you see there
568
00:36:50,124 --> 00:36:52,134
seen heading
for the Medical Examiner's office.
569
00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:56,760
It is a stunning turn of events for a man
who lived a life of exceptional wealth
570
00:36:56,839 --> 00:36:59,219
with extremely powerful people
in his orbit.
571
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,300
[camera shutter clicks]
572
00:37:01,594 --> 00:37:03,724
[Malloy] It is inconceivable
that in a prison,
573
00:37:03,804 --> 00:37:07,314
a federal prison
that housed terrorists and El Chapo,
574
00:37:07,391 --> 00:37:09,941
that had cameras,
that had guards everywhere,
575
00:37:10,019 --> 00:37:11,479
that something could go wrong
576
00:37:11,562 --> 00:37:14,232
and harm could come to Jeffrey Epstein.
Inconceivable.
577
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:25,330
Reports indicated
that he tied his bed sheet
578
00:37:25,785 --> 00:37:28,575
around his neck, and strangled himself.
579
00:37:33,751 --> 00:37:36,171
It's a federal prison,
notoriously underfunded,
580
00:37:36,712 --> 00:37:38,262
something of a hellhole,
581
00:37:38,339 --> 00:37:40,509
and it's revealed
that the guards were sleeping.
582
00:37:40,591 --> 00:37:42,051
The cameras weren't working.
583
00:37:42,885 --> 00:37:45,465
Everything that could go wrong went wrong.
584
00:37:49,725 --> 00:37:53,015
[Annie Farmer] Honestly,
I felt so devastated that...
585
00:37:54,689 --> 00:37:56,439
once again, he had...
586
00:37:57,650 --> 00:38:01,490
you know, managed to escape
any kind of accountability.
587
00:38:03,990 --> 00:38:06,740
That's how it felt.
Like people just didn't care enough
588
00:38:06,826 --> 00:38:10,956
to make sure that he was alive
to go to trial.
589
00:38:12,832 --> 00:38:14,422
[raining]
590
00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:16,380
[Rivera] There's no justice in this.
591
00:38:16,752 --> 00:38:18,342
[thunder rumbles]
592
00:38:18,713 --> 00:38:21,553
There was just so much more to be said...
593
00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:23,679
that's never going to be said.
594
00:38:24,593 --> 00:38:25,683
And that's sad.
595
00:38:27,138 --> 00:38:29,138
-[rain pouring]
-[thunder rumbling]
596
00:38:30,016 --> 00:38:32,136
[Rivera] I didn't know how to react to it.
597
00:38:32,226 --> 00:38:34,976
I felt sad immediately and I...
598
00:38:35,479 --> 00:38:38,439
Not to say that, like,
he didn't do bad things,
599
00:38:38,524 --> 00:38:42,364
not to say that he didn't deserve
something terrible to happen to him...
600
00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:48,447
I just don't think that was the ending
that anybody wanted.
601
00:38:50,328 --> 00:38:52,328
[rain falling]
602
00:38:53,706 --> 00:38:57,416
Before I begin,
I'd like to briefly address news
603
00:38:57,501 --> 00:39:01,671
from the Manhattan Correctional Center
over the weekend
604
00:39:01,756 --> 00:39:03,666
regarding Jeffrey Epstein.
605
00:39:04,675 --> 00:39:08,505
We are now learning of serious
irregularities at this facility
606
00:39:08,596 --> 00:39:10,506
that are deeply concerning
607
00:39:10,890 --> 00:39:14,190
and demand a thorough investigation.
608
00:39:16,103 --> 00:39:19,733
[Charles Gasparino] If you wanna know how
he could slip through the cracks on this,
609
00:39:19,815 --> 00:39:22,815
the New York's Metropolitan Correction
Center used to be called "the Tombs."
610
00:39:23,527 --> 00:39:26,987
It's a notoriously, you know, harsh place.
611
00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:30,986
It's understaffed, and largely staffed
by not the smartest people.
612
00:39:31,535 --> 00:39:33,995
He knew his life was done.
613
00:39:35,122 --> 00:39:36,832
He wanted to kill himself,
614
00:39:36,916 --> 00:39:39,036
and he killed himself
the first chance he got.
615
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:46,839
[Musgrave] I think it's just typical
of the whole Jeffrey Epstein story.
616
00:39:46,926 --> 00:39:49,676
Even in death,
he kept the controversy alive.
617
00:39:50,596 --> 00:39:53,596
[female reporter] Wild rumors and theories
about how Jeffrey Epstein died
618
00:39:53,682 --> 00:39:56,772
on the federal government's watch
is breeding online.
619
00:39:57,019 --> 00:39:58,849
[Musgrave] I think
it's the never-ending story.
620
00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:02,358
Did he kill himself?
Was he killed? Was there a hit out?
621
00:40:02,441 --> 00:40:06,401
Did one of these powerful men
pay a prison guard to kill him?
622
00:40:06,779 --> 00:40:07,609
I don't know.
623
00:40:07,988 --> 00:40:09,908
[suspenseful music]
624
00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:13,907
This case is ripe for conspiracy theories.
625
00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:18,750
That's part of the story.
There's so many weird sort of connections.
626
00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:23,835
Conspiracy theorists have claimed
that Epstein's death wasn't a suicide,
627
00:40:23,921 --> 00:40:25,261
or it was faked.
628
00:40:25,339 --> 00:40:27,799
Other Epstein theories floating online,
629
00:40:27,883 --> 00:40:30,853
"How convenient now
for the princes, and politicians,
630
00:40:30,928 --> 00:40:33,258
and other powerful people
Epstein mingled with
631
00:40:33,764 --> 00:40:34,644
that he's dead."
632
00:40:36,100 --> 00:40:38,390
[Davies] I'm sure
many people wanted him dead.
633
00:40:38,477 --> 00:40:41,147
He had a lot of information
on a lot of people, a lot of blackmail.
634
00:40:41,230 --> 00:40:42,650
Videos and pictures.
635
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:47,280
[Maria Farmer] If you look here,
the limestone,
636
00:40:47,361 --> 00:40:50,661
inside the house,
behind, like, a space like that,
637
00:40:50,739 --> 00:40:53,159
they have cameras,
and they have them everywhere.
638
00:40:54,410 --> 00:40:58,500
Jeffrey took me into a room which is
a bit back further than this window,
639
00:40:58,581 --> 00:41:00,001
and it's leaded.
640
00:41:00,624 --> 00:41:03,214
And it had all the computers
641
00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:07,884
and all these monitors, like,
the old-fashioned TV monitors, stacked.
642
00:41:09,091 --> 00:41:11,841
[Giuffre] I'm looking at the monitors,
and I'm like, "That's my room.
643
00:41:11,927 --> 00:41:13,217
That's the massage room.
644
00:41:13,304 --> 00:41:15,394
That's my shower. That's my toilet.
645
00:41:15,890 --> 00:41:17,730
That's everyone else's toilet
in the house.
646
00:41:17,808 --> 00:41:19,768
That's everyone else's shower
in the house."
647
00:41:19,852 --> 00:41:23,022
That's... Every single corner
of that house was monitored.
648
00:41:23,606 --> 00:41:26,276
He was watching everybody all the time.
649
00:41:26,609 --> 00:41:28,359
This was a blackmail scheme.
650
00:41:28,694 --> 00:41:32,074
All those powerful people
abusing underage girls.
651
00:41:32,156 --> 00:41:33,066
When he told me,
652
00:41:33,157 --> 00:41:36,407
"People owe me favors,
and I will never get caught.
653
00:41:36,494 --> 00:41:38,084
I can get away with things,"
654
00:41:38,787 --> 00:41:39,827
he meant it.
655
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:44,999
[Ransome] I think that he would take
a lot of people down.
656
00:41:45,085 --> 00:41:47,205
This wasn't just a ring
for Jeffrey Epstein.
657
00:41:47,296 --> 00:41:49,876
This was an international
sex trafficking ring.
658
00:41:50,716 --> 00:41:52,676
This has reached all over the world.
659
00:41:54,094 --> 00:41:57,314
He is a very small piece
in a huge network.
660
00:42:00,309 --> 00:42:04,189
[Malloy] Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother,
is not buying the suicide.
661
00:42:04,271 --> 00:42:05,441
He doesn't believe it.
662
00:42:05,523 --> 00:42:10,993
So he hires a renowned forensic expert
to take another look at the autopsy.
663
00:42:16,867 --> 00:42:20,117
[Dr. Cyril Wecht]
A call came in from Dr. Michael Baden,
664
00:42:20,204 --> 00:42:23,544
who is representing the family,
specifically the brother,
665
00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:25,174
Mr. Mark Epstein.
666
00:42:25,751 --> 00:42:28,751
I then received a copy
of the autopsy report
667
00:42:28,837 --> 00:42:32,007
and discussed things with Dr. Baden
at great length.
668
00:42:33,259 --> 00:42:35,719
There was no evidence at all to indicate
669
00:42:35,803 --> 00:42:38,893
that he had jumped or leaped
from the bunk.
670
00:42:40,224 --> 00:42:44,654
I came to learn that there were
fractures of the hyoid bone,
671
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:47,398
which is a delicate, U-shaped bone
672
00:42:47,481 --> 00:42:51,031
located high in the neck directly
beneath the mandible, the lower jaw.
673
00:42:51,986 --> 00:42:56,406
I have here, uh...
from a totally unrelated case, of course,
674
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:57,410
a hyoid bone.
675
00:42:57,825 --> 00:43:00,735
Now, there is some soft tissue
still attached.
676
00:43:00,828 --> 00:43:02,448
On, uh, Jeffrey Epstein,
677
00:43:02,538 --> 00:43:04,248
three fractures were found:
678
00:43:04,331 --> 00:43:08,171
the horn of the hyoid bone
on the left side,
679
00:43:09,003 --> 00:43:11,383
and then directly beneath
on Jeffrey Epstein
680
00:43:11,463 --> 00:43:13,673
there were fractures
of the thyroid cartilage
681
00:43:13,757 --> 00:43:17,297
and then on the right side
of the thyroid cartilage.
682
00:43:19,638 --> 00:43:22,058
You do not get those three fractures
683
00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:25,891
with a suicidal hanging
of someone leaning forward.
684
00:43:25,978 --> 00:43:29,188
So where, again, is the force
685
00:43:29,273 --> 00:43:34,193
that would have been required to produce
those fractures from kneeling forward?
686
00:43:35,654 --> 00:43:39,454
I can say I've never seen it myself
in all of my autopsies.
687
00:43:39,533 --> 00:43:44,503
I would say, to have these three fractures
in that kind of a suicidal hanging
688
00:43:44,580 --> 00:43:48,380
would be extremely rare. Extremely rare.
689
00:43:54,298 --> 00:43:57,638
[Gasparino] What really took this tragedy
to another level, in my view,
690
00:43:57,718 --> 00:44:01,638
was when he moved his money over
to the Virgin Islands in his will.
691
00:44:08,395 --> 00:44:12,395
[Edwards] Jeffrey Epstein signed a will
two days before he committed suicide.
692
00:44:12,483 --> 00:44:15,403
At that time,
he knew he was committing suicide,
693
00:44:15,486 --> 00:44:18,696
but I would presume
his lawyers didn't know that.
694
00:44:21,033 --> 00:44:24,373
[Gasparino] It made it much more difficult
for the victims to get restitution,
695
00:44:24,453 --> 00:44:29,543
and in my view, it sort of underscored
his evilness, you know, his venality.
696
00:44:29,625 --> 00:44:33,585
It basically showed that he had
no remorse whatsoever.
697
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:35,171
He didn't think he did anything wrong.
698
00:44:35,255 --> 00:44:38,255
That just says it all
about Jeffrey Epstein, you know.
699
00:44:38,342 --> 00:44:40,592
It was a "Fuck you" to the victims.
700
00:44:41,261 --> 00:44:45,061
Like, he had no, sort of, remorse
about victims.
701
00:44:45,808 --> 00:44:48,638
[Edwards] The victims... Certain things
have been taken from them forever.
702
00:44:48,727 --> 00:44:51,857
They'll never get the satisfaction
of seeing him in jail for life.
703
00:44:52,439 --> 00:44:55,399
But there will come a point in time
where they're able to prove
704
00:44:55,484 --> 00:44:58,494
that they were victimized,
they were harmed by the victimization,
705
00:44:58,570 --> 00:45:01,120
and... and that they should be
compensated for it.
706
00:45:01,615 --> 00:45:03,325
But they're never going to be made whole,
707
00:45:03,409 --> 00:45:06,079
because you just can't ever take back
what happened to them.
708
00:45:17,131 --> 00:45:19,801
[Malloy] Epstein's lawyers
wanted to dismiss the case.
709
00:45:20,592 --> 00:45:22,262
You can't, uh... try a dead guy.
710
00:45:23,303 --> 00:45:25,223
But the judge wasn't going
to let that happen.
711
00:45:25,305 --> 00:45:28,885
The judge was going to let some
of the victims have their day in court.
712
00:45:29,643 --> 00:45:31,943
-[man] Good morning, Your Honor.
-Nice to see you.
713
00:45:32,020 --> 00:45:33,230
[man] Nice to see you.
714
00:45:33,731 --> 00:45:37,191
[reporter 1] Up to 30 women are expected
to accept a New York judge's invitation
715
00:45:37,276 --> 00:45:38,396
to address the hearing
716
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:42,865
before he moves to dismiss the criminal
sex trafficking case against Epstein.
717
00:45:44,950 --> 00:45:48,000
[Davies] The invite to the hearing
was all very last-minute.
718
00:45:48,328 --> 00:45:51,038
As emotional as this has all been for me,
719
00:45:51,123 --> 00:45:55,093
it's also ignited, sort of, this dragon,
if you will, in me
720
00:45:55,169 --> 00:45:56,959
that I feel the need to...
721
00:45:57,588 --> 00:46:00,968
speak my truth
and to have my voice heard.
722
00:46:02,634 --> 00:46:04,644
[reporter 2]
More than a dozen alleged victims
723
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:09,020
of convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein
finally had their day in court.
724
00:46:09,433 --> 00:46:11,143
[Wild] We deserved our day in court.
725
00:46:11,226 --> 00:46:14,726
I think it was a very cowardly thing
for him to do.
726
00:46:14,813 --> 00:46:16,323
He escaped justice.
727
00:46:16,398 --> 00:46:18,278
[reporters clamoring]
728
00:46:18,817 --> 00:46:20,567
[Annie Farmer] I was so touched
729
00:46:20,652 --> 00:46:24,202
by the strength of the women
that were there
730
00:46:24,281 --> 00:46:27,741
getting up and sharing their experiences,
so many for the first time.
731
00:46:28,118 --> 00:46:31,288
It was a very cathartic experience
to be there.
732
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:35,380
[Ransome] Judge Berman,
he changed my life.
733
00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:37,003
For the first time,
734
00:46:37,085 --> 00:46:39,335
I actually saw someone
in a position of power
735
00:46:39,421 --> 00:46:42,301
that actually had any form of respect
for us,
736
00:46:42,716 --> 00:46:43,716
and he listened,
737
00:46:44,176 --> 00:46:45,796
and that's all I ever wanted,
738
00:46:46,386 --> 00:46:49,056
was for someone to listen
and for someone to hear me.
739
00:46:51,141 --> 00:46:53,231
[Giuffre] Judge Berman
gave me back something
740
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:55,190
that I never thought was possible.
741
00:46:56,688 --> 00:46:58,938
He gave me back a piece of myself that...
742
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,150
was missing for so long.
743
00:47:02,611 --> 00:47:04,281
Hugging those girls in court...
744
00:47:08,617 --> 00:47:10,157
[sighs]
745
00:47:10,244 --> 00:47:11,754
It was beautiful.
746
00:47:12,621 --> 00:47:14,081
[sighs]
747
00:47:15,707 --> 00:47:18,037
We cried, we laughed, we hugged...
748
00:47:19,294 --> 00:47:22,674
and we all had each other's backs
that day in court.
749
00:47:23,882 --> 00:47:25,882
[reporters clamoring]
750
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,389
[Edwards] The way that Judge Berman
treated these victims
751
00:47:30,472 --> 00:47:35,192
is going to be the model
for how victims should be treated.
752
00:47:35,769 --> 00:47:39,819
I think that it's going to go down
in history as the most important case
753
00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:43,148
on behalf of crime victims
in US history to date.
754
00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:46,530
[Davies] It makes me sick to my stomach
that there's perpetrators out there that
755
00:47:47,281 --> 00:47:49,991
obviously helped him in many ways
for a very long time,
756
00:47:50,075 --> 00:47:51,155
and they're still out there.
757
00:47:51,243 --> 00:47:56,083
It gives nobody justice, and it leaves
a lot of unanswered questions.
758
00:47:56,832 --> 00:48:00,712
It's also pretty upsetting to see
how many lives he's devastated,
759
00:48:00,794 --> 00:48:01,634
and to see...
760
00:48:02,754 --> 00:48:06,094
how long this went on for,
and nobody did anything about it.
761
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:13,520
[McCawley] It's incredibly scary
to come forward
762
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:15,729
against someone like Jeffrey Epstein,
763
00:48:15,809 --> 00:48:20,109
who's a billionaire,
who has friends in very high places,
764
00:48:20,188 --> 00:48:23,528
who has intimidated them,
who has abused them,
765
00:48:23,609 --> 00:48:26,739
and to stand up many years later
and to say, "This was wrong,
766
00:48:26,820 --> 00:48:28,160
it shouldn't have happened to me,
767
00:48:28,238 --> 00:48:30,738
and I don't want it to happen
to anybody else,"
768
00:48:30,824 --> 00:48:32,954
is just an incredible thing to witness.
769
00:48:42,377 --> 00:48:43,877
[Maria Farmer] Okay, let's see.
770
00:48:45,797 --> 00:48:47,467
I felt completely defeated.
771
00:48:49,176 --> 00:48:50,796
My life was threatened.
772
00:48:51,219 --> 00:48:56,059
My work was threatened.
My career was... jeopardized completely.
773
00:48:58,226 --> 00:49:02,016
I've pretty much been on a journey
for 20 years of not doing my art,
774
00:49:02,105 --> 00:49:03,065
of not painting,
775
00:49:03,732 --> 00:49:05,982
and I was just trying to survive.
776
00:49:06,568 --> 00:49:11,488
And then I began again painting
because I was tired of being afraid.
777
00:49:12,366 --> 00:49:15,116
I felt like I wanted
to expose the monsters,
778
00:49:15,202 --> 00:49:17,252
and I just needed to get that out.
779
00:49:17,704 --> 00:49:20,584
And so this is an illustration.
780
00:49:20,666 --> 00:49:22,956
Basically, it's my diagram for the FBI,
781
00:49:23,043 --> 00:49:26,343
because I want them to see
what I told them all those years ago.
782
00:49:27,339 --> 00:49:31,219
And it's a version of Bosch's
Garden of Earthly Delights,
783
00:49:31,301 --> 00:49:33,891
which is basically
just like Dante's Inferno,
784
00:49:34,721 --> 00:49:37,521
portraying Heaven, Hell, and Earth.
785
00:49:38,642 --> 00:49:40,812
This is our lovely Ghislaine Maxwell.
786
00:49:40,894 --> 00:49:43,154
She's a pill, a hard pill to swallow,
787
00:49:43,230 --> 00:49:45,570
and she's the property of the FBI
in this drawing.
788
00:49:46,942 --> 00:49:50,702
I put Epstein here with his little UFO
on a NASA tower
789
00:49:50,779 --> 00:49:53,369
because Epstein was, um...
790
00:49:54,324 --> 00:49:56,164
given a free ride by our government.
791
00:49:56,743 --> 00:49:59,873
And, um... Yeah. That's... [chuckles]
792
00:50:01,581 --> 00:50:02,671
That makes me angry.
793
00:50:05,627 --> 00:50:08,337
So I'm actually working
on something new right now.
794
00:50:08,422 --> 00:50:11,262
I'm drawing the other Epstein survivors
795
00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:14,511
because it empowers me
to provide them with strength.
796
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:18,135
And basically it's just about
strength in numbers at this stage.
797
00:50:18,223 --> 00:50:21,523
We really... I mean, we need each other
to get through this.
798
00:50:22,769 --> 00:50:24,399
This is Annie, my sister,
799
00:50:24,938 --> 00:50:26,688
and she's holding a paper doll.
800
00:50:26,773 --> 00:50:28,073
What's gonna bind them together
801
00:50:28,150 --> 00:50:29,990
is they're gonna be holding
these paper dolls,
802
00:50:30,068 --> 00:50:33,738
and the paper dolls represent
the children who have not come forward,
803
00:50:33,822 --> 00:50:35,952
and we don't know what happened to them.
804
00:50:37,492 --> 00:50:39,792
[Annie Farmer] I think this was just
one chapter in my life.
805
00:50:40,954 --> 00:50:46,134
For a long time, I didn't want
to think about myself as a victim.
806
00:50:46,543 --> 00:50:50,673
And it's interesting because
I've gone on to work as a therapist.
807
00:50:51,256 --> 00:50:54,796
I do think the fact that
I had this experience has helped me
808
00:50:54,885 --> 00:50:57,715
to understand how people respond
to certain situations,
809
00:50:57,804 --> 00:51:01,104
and, you know, to be
the kind of therapist that I am.
810
00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:04,765
[Maria Farmer] This is Courtney.
811
00:51:04,853 --> 00:51:08,733
Courtney is very strong,
and she's definitely been through a lot.
812
00:51:09,524 --> 00:51:11,324
And I admire her so much.
813
00:51:15,614 --> 00:51:18,244
[Wild]
My life is definitely still a struggle
814
00:51:18,325 --> 00:51:20,945
for everything that I went through
with Jeffrey.
815
00:51:21,453 --> 00:51:24,413
However, it has kind of come to an end.
816
00:51:24,498 --> 00:51:27,828
It's a good thing, it's a bittersweet
thing, because it's over,
817
00:51:27,918 --> 00:51:30,878
and I can kind of work through
the healing process now.
818
00:51:33,131 --> 00:51:34,381
And this is Michelle.
819
00:51:35,342 --> 00:51:38,352
Michelle has, like,
a really fun spirit, I feel.
820
00:51:38,428 --> 00:51:41,308
She has a great sense of humor,
and, also, she's beautiful,
821
00:51:41,389 --> 00:51:42,519
and I wanted to...
822
00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:45,943
depict her as I see her, so...
823
00:51:50,107 --> 00:51:51,437
[Licata] This isn't over.
824
00:51:51,525 --> 00:51:56,065
I really hope that the police,
the FBI, the government...
825
00:51:56,613 --> 00:51:57,663
Just do your job.
826
00:51:57,739 --> 00:52:03,789
I go to work. I do my job every single day
for the rest of my life.
827
00:52:04,037 --> 00:52:07,497
Uh... You're given
that position and that power
828
00:52:07,582 --> 00:52:09,962
to make things right,
to do the right thing.
829
00:52:10,043 --> 00:52:14,763
So do the right thing. That's it.
It's plain and simple, you know?
830
00:52:15,715 --> 00:52:18,085
Take them down. Take everybody down.
831
00:52:21,721 --> 00:52:23,891
[Maria Farmer]
That's Sarah. She's my favorite.
832
00:52:28,228 --> 00:52:29,308
I love this girl.
833
00:52:29,813 --> 00:52:30,863
She's precious.
834
00:52:31,857 --> 00:52:34,647
I feel a very special bond with her.
I love her like a sister.
835
00:52:38,155 --> 00:52:40,065
[Ransome]
I'll never get to see Jeffrey again,
836
00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:43,580
and I wanted him to see
the woman I have become,
837
00:52:44,327 --> 00:52:46,077
and that he didn't break me.
838
00:52:46,663 --> 00:52:49,543
And I will fight
till my last breath on Earth.
839
00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:53,205
I'm here today to tell you
that it stops here,
840
00:52:53,295 --> 00:52:55,045
and it stops now, and I am here.
841
00:52:55,130 --> 00:52:57,970
My fight for the rest of my life will be
to make sure
842
00:52:58,049 --> 00:53:01,509
that no woman will ever feel ashamed
to come forward.
843
00:53:05,473 --> 00:53:06,603
This is Virginia.
844
00:53:08,351 --> 00:53:11,481
And I didn't know that
Virginia used a butterfly as a symbol,
845
00:53:11,855 --> 00:53:16,145
which obviously makes sense,
a symbol of freedom, leaving the cocoon.
846
00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:19,364
But I didn't know that when I drew this.
I found that kind of interesting.
847
00:53:23,533 --> 00:53:27,293
[Giuffre] Epstein did not act alone.
So my next step is...
848
00:53:27,829 --> 00:53:30,329
holding other people accountable.
849
00:53:30,707 --> 00:53:34,877
The people that were involved,
the people that actually participated,
850
00:53:34,961 --> 00:53:37,171
there are so many of them out there.
851
00:53:38,924 --> 00:53:41,724
None of them have been held accountable.
852
00:53:42,844 --> 00:53:46,144
We were kids being trafficked
under their eyes, under their nose.
853
00:53:46,223 --> 00:53:47,773
They knew exactly what was going on,
854
00:53:48,183 --> 00:53:50,193
and they didn't say anything about it.
855
00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,442
So stop worrying
about saving your own hide
856
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,440
and help us. That's all we're asking for.
857
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:56,520
-Let's go!
-[dog moaning happily]
858
00:53:56,608 --> 00:53:59,358
What are you doing in there?
What are you doing?
859
00:53:59,444 --> 00:54:01,574
[Giuffre]
The monsters are still out there,
860
00:54:01,655 --> 00:54:03,655
and they're still abusing other people.
861
00:54:04,532 --> 00:54:08,202
Why they have not been named
and shamed yet... is beyond me.
70848
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