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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:18,518 --> 00:00:20,598 [female on police radio] 3991 on the suspect. 2 00:00:20,687 --> 00:00:22,397 [indistinct talk on police radio] 3 00:00:22,814 --> 00:00:24,024 [male on police radio] Morning. 4 00:00:24,941 --> 00:00:27,861 This is a complete description of the residence desired to be searched 5 00:00:27,944 --> 00:00:30,034 including the curtilage attached thereof. 6 00:00:30,363 --> 00:00:33,623 Being the premises occupied or under the control of Jeffrey Epstein, 7 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:35,910 white male, date of birth 1/20/53. 8 00:00:39,039 --> 00:00:39,959 This is your copy. 9 00:00:40,832 --> 00:00:42,132 When we are concluded, 10 00:00:42,208 --> 00:00:45,298 I will leave a list of what items we're taking. 11 00:00:46,129 --> 00:00:48,129 [dramatic music] 12 00:00:51,718 --> 00:00:55,388 Seven months into the case, detectives executed the search warrant 13 00:00:55,472 --> 00:00:57,142 at Mr. Epstein's residence. 14 00:01:00,643 --> 00:01:02,733 [Tim Malloy] They opened the doors and went up the winding staircase 15 00:01:02,812 --> 00:01:04,612 into his ornate and bizarre world. 16 00:01:05,482 --> 00:01:07,612 Pictures of young kids half-naked. 17 00:01:09,819 --> 00:01:10,899 Nudes everywhere. 18 00:01:14,991 --> 00:01:19,001 One of the police officers who saw it said that it was just really weird. 19 00:01:23,750 --> 00:01:25,630 Detectives also discovered 20 00:01:26,044 --> 00:01:29,844 a very bizarre steam room and massage room setup. 21 00:01:33,968 --> 00:01:37,098 They actually found some computers and equipment that remain in the house, 22 00:01:37,180 --> 00:01:40,020 but police suspected most of Epstein's computer hard drives, 23 00:01:40,100 --> 00:01:43,730 and surveillance cameras, and videos had already been taken out of the house. 24 00:01:45,146 --> 00:01:47,896 [Michael Reiter] There was space on a desk where wires were hanging, 25 00:01:47,982 --> 00:01:49,282 but there was no computer. 26 00:01:50,777 --> 00:01:53,107 At that point, it was fairly clear to us 27 00:01:53,196 --> 00:01:56,236 that Mr. Epstein knew that he was under investigation. 28 00:01:57,700 --> 00:01:59,240 Epstein had been tipped off. 29 00:02:46,833 --> 00:02:50,503 [sinister music] 30 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,680 [Reiter] After the search warrant, 31 00:02:59,762 --> 00:03:04,142 it was disappointing to realize that Epstein's house had been cleaned up. 32 00:03:04,893 --> 00:03:07,443 There were a lot of things that had been removed. 33 00:03:10,315 --> 00:03:12,935 But there was still plenty of evidence that was left. 34 00:03:13,776 --> 00:03:16,776 I think the most useful thing that we learned 35 00:03:17,238 --> 00:03:19,448 was that the victims' accounts, 36 00:03:19,908 --> 00:03:23,288 detailed descriptions  of Mr. Epstein's home, 37 00:03:23,369 --> 00:03:26,919 where rooms were located, the configuration of the home, 38 00:03:26,998 --> 00:03:29,078 validated what they had told us. 39 00:03:30,627 --> 00:03:34,007 There were memo pads of phone calls that we seized 40 00:03:34,088 --> 00:03:35,798 that included contact information 41 00:03:35,882 --> 00:03:41,222 for some of the victims and for some of the adult females 42 00:03:41,304 --> 00:03:44,894 that had been used to identify and recruit the victims, 43 00:03:44,974 --> 00:03:47,944 so that was productive for us as well. 44 00:03:53,399 --> 00:03:55,359 [woman] The message pads that were taken 45 00:03:55,443 --> 00:03:58,403 from the investigation that  the Palm Beach Police Department did, 46 00:03:58,488 --> 00:03:59,488 they're very revealing. 47 00:04:01,032 --> 00:04:05,252 Individuals who were being called or calling back in 48 00:04:05,328 --> 00:04:08,288 to come over for these sexual massages. 49 00:04:08,706 --> 00:04:11,376 For example, one has a redaction on it, 50 00:04:11,459 --> 00:04:14,209 meaning it was a minor who was calling in, and it says, 51 00:04:14,295 --> 00:04:18,545 "She is wondering if 2:30 is okay. She needs to stay in school." 52 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:24,564 I think I took this case much more seriously than other matters 53 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:27,229 that I've handled, in the sense that it was very personal. 54 00:04:27,308 --> 00:04:31,688 I do have a daughter. I have children. I met with these victims. 55 00:04:31,771 --> 00:04:34,071 It was very personal, the abuse that they suffered. 56 00:04:34,482 --> 00:04:35,362 I won't stop 57 00:04:35,441 --> 00:04:38,991 until the people who victimized these individuals are held accountable. 58 00:04:41,572 --> 00:04:45,332 The age of consent in Florida is 18. It does vary state to state, 59 00:04:45,410 --> 00:04:48,160 and in New York, for example, it's 17, 60 00:04:48,246 --> 00:04:50,746 but this really isn't a case about consent. 61 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:55,590 The point of these cases is that there was no consent here. 62 00:05:02,385 --> 00:05:04,505 [Reiter] Seven months into the investigation, 63 00:05:05,013 --> 00:05:10,183 we were all extremely frustrated at the difficulty of this case. 64 00:05:12,103 --> 00:05:15,823 We applied whatever resources were necessary to do the best job, 65 00:05:16,232 --> 00:05:20,452 to quickly be able to reach the point that we could apply for arrest warrants. 66 00:05:21,446 --> 00:05:25,776 [man] Detectives that I talked to said that they were tiptoeing, 67 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:29,657 they were acting a little cautiously because they knew there would be blowback. 68 00:05:29,746 --> 00:05:33,916 But also they were running into resistance even among their own, among colleagues. 69 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,340 Uh, they knew that there were people who would protect 70 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:39,920 any number of the residents on the island. 71 00:05:40,006 --> 00:05:44,216 And so, to go into a case like this, you had to walk gingerly, 72 00:05:44,302 --> 00:05:48,852 you had to make sure  that you held your information closely, 73 00:05:48,931 --> 00:05:51,771 and you had to be absolutely sure that you were right. 74 00:05:52,852 --> 00:05:56,402 [Reiter] We found that the victims ran the entire gamut 75 00:05:56,481 --> 00:06:00,111 from those that were thankful that we contacted them, 76 00:06:00,193 --> 00:06:03,953 others who said that they were in love with Jeffrey Epstein, 77 00:06:04,030 --> 00:06:06,280 and they were going to get married to Jeffrey Epstein. 78 00:06:07,116 --> 00:06:10,866 Some victims that we contacted had gone on to college 79 00:06:10,953 --> 00:06:14,003 who slammed the door in the face of detectives. 80 00:06:14,665 --> 00:06:16,875 We were very surprised to learn 81 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:22,010 these criminal activities had gone on for a fairly long period of time, 82 00:06:22,090 --> 00:06:25,010 many years prior to the investigation. 83 00:06:39,107 --> 00:06:40,687 My name is Virginia Giuffre. 84 00:06:41,734 --> 00:06:46,164 When I was 16, I got a summer job at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago 85 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:47,529 in Palm Beach. 86 00:06:48,032 --> 00:06:49,202 Uh, I was working there 87 00:06:49,283 --> 00:06:52,083 as a locker room attendant in the spa area. 88 00:06:53,329 --> 00:06:56,789 At the time, I really wanted to become a massage therapist. 89 00:06:57,375 --> 00:06:59,955 And not very long into working at Mar-a-Lago, 90 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:02,674 did an English lady come up to me. 91 00:07:03,381 --> 00:07:05,681 She introduced herself as Ghislaine Maxwell. 92 00:07:06,801 --> 00:07:10,641 She was beautiful. She looked educated. She was nice. 93 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:12,680 She said, "Oh, that's interesting. 94 00:07:12,765 --> 00:07:14,845 You're reading a book  about massage therapy." 95 00:07:14,934 --> 00:07:16,604 And she said, "You know, 96 00:07:16,686 --> 00:07:20,146 I actually know this guy who's looking for a traveling masseuse. 97 00:07:20,606 --> 00:07:23,936 You know, if you want, you can come by this afternoon after work, 98 00:07:24,026 --> 00:07:25,236 and you can come meet him." 99 00:07:27,905 --> 00:07:30,115 I'd finished work around 5:00, 100 00:07:30,199 --> 00:07:33,619 and I pull up at this huge house, this big mansion... 101 00:07:35,705 --> 00:07:37,575 and Ghislaine answers the door. 102 00:07:40,334 --> 00:07:42,964 I walk through the door, and she's leading me up the staircase, 103 00:07:43,045 --> 00:07:44,375 and I'm looking around, you know. 104 00:07:44,464 --> 00:07:46,844 There's photographs everywhere of important people. 105 00:07:46,924 --> 00:07:51,184 I could tell that, you know, like, this guy has some friends in high places. 106 00:07:53,097 --> 00:07:55,347 And then we go into the massage room, 107 00:07:55,933 --> 00:07:57,773 and there's this massage bed 108 00:07:58,561 --> 00:08:00,441 with a naked man laying on top of it, 109 00:08:00,855 --> 00:08:01,765 face down. 110 00:08:02,315 --> 00:08:04,145 To me this is, I guess, 111 00:08:04,233 --> 00:08:07,033 walking into a world I didn't understand, but I guess I'm gonna learn. 112 00:08:09,530 --> 00:08:12,660 Ghislaine shows me like, "Put your lotion here on your hands." 113 00:08:13,326 --> 00:08:14,786 And then we did his feet, 114 00:08:15,661 --> 00:08:16,621 his calves... 115 00:08:17,663 --> 00:08:18,543 his back. 116 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:21,294 While the massage was going on, 117 00:08:21,375 --> 00:08:23,875 they asked me questions about my life. "So, who are you?" 118 00:08:23,961 --> 00:08:27,511 "What school do you go to?" Um... "Tell me about yourself." 119 00:08:27,590 --> 00:08:30,760 You know, and that's when I felt like I should open up and tell them, like, 120 00:08:30,843 --> 00:08:32,853 how much this opportunity means to me. 121 00:08:35,723 --> 00:08:39,693 My home life started out very hard from a very young age. 122 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:43,860 I'd been a runaway and lived on the streets. 123 00:08:44,815 --> 00:08:46,105 I've been abused. 124 00:08:47,735 --> 00:08:50,735 I felt like it was okay to tell them about my past. 125 00:08:52,365 --> 00:08:53,695 And then he turned over. 126 00:08:54,242 --> 00:08:58,082 [sinister music] 127 00:08:58,162 --> 00:09:01,792 [Virginia Giuffre] They asked me... to please take off my clothes. 128 00:09:03,042 --> 00:09:05,132 Ghislaine started taking off her clothes. 129 00:09:06,587 --> 00:09:08,257 I didn't know what to do. 130 00:09:08,339 --> 00:09:11,879 I didn't know what was gonna happen if I said no, if I screamed. 131 00:09:12,677 --> 00:09:14,507 I just... I did what they said. 132 00:09:17,390 --> 00:09:19,390 Ghislaine was behind and touching me. 133 00:09:20,476 --> 00:09:23,726 It went from oral sex to get on top. 134 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:30,032 Still to this day, I don't know how it went from something real 135 00:09:30,111 --> 00:09:32,991 to something perverted like that so quickly. 136 00:09:35,825 --> 00:09:36,695 Afterwards, 137 00:09:37,118 --> 00:09:40,748 they said, "The interview went great. You're going to come back tomorrow." 138 00:09:43,791 --> 00:09:44,711 And I did. 139 00:09:46,627 --> 00:09:52,047 I was abused plenty of times before Epstein had done what he did to me. 140 00:09:53,009 --> 00:09:59,179 I had no self-esteem. I was scared that my life was going to be worthless. 141 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,140 I was the perfect victim for them. 142 00:10:06,272 --> 00:10:08,022 One thing that Epstein loved me for 143 00:10:08,107 --> 00:10:10,477 was that I never really asked too many questions. 144 00:10:11,694 --> 00:10:15,034 I escalated up the ladder very quickly with Epstein. 145 00:10:15,781 --> 00:10:17,161 I did whatever he needed, 146 00:10:18,075 --> 00:10:21,365 you know, put his socks on  for him before bed, uh... 147 00:10:21,787 --> 00:10:24,667 make sure what he needed sexually happened. 148 00:10:25,082 --> 00:10:27,042 I had to serve him all the time. 149 00:10:29,337 --> 00:10:30,167 They told me, 150 00:10:30,254 --> 00:10:32,804 "You're going to do so well. You're going to travel the world. 151 00:10:33,215 --> 00:10:35,465 You're gonna meet people that you'd never think you'd meet. 152 00:10:35,551 --> 00:10:39,101 We're gonna put you in circles that you would never even understand." 153 00:10:40,473 --> 00:10:43,353 Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell had a great way 154 00:10:43,434 --> 00:10:46,024 of normalizing the abuse that was going on. 155 00:10:46,854 --> 00:10:52,654 They kind of made it feel like we were in this really deranged family. 156 00:10:52,735 --> 00:10:55,525 You know, we would sit back, and we would watch movies together. 157 00:10:55,613 --> 00:10:59,123 We would go diving together. We would go hiking together. 158 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,790 We would go on 4Runners together. 159 00:11:00,868 --> 00:11:03,908 We would do so many cool activities like that together. 160 00:11:04,955 --> 00:11:07,285 They kept saying, "We will get you educated. 161 00:11:07,375 --> 00:11:09,995 You will become a real massage therapist one day." 162 00:11:10,086 --> 00:11:15,506 But under the premise that afterwards you're back to the abuse. 163 00:11:16,884 --> 00:11:18,684 And, unfortunately... 164 00:11:19,595 --> 00:11:22,005 I didn't see my life getting any better. 165 00:11:22,682 --> 00:11:23,562 So I stayed. 166 00:11:28,187 --> 00:11:31,817 It was like I am now a slave to these people. 167 00:11:33,442 --> 00:11:34,902 And then I was trafficked. 168 00:11:37,071 --> 00:11:39,411 I was lent out to all of their friends. 169 00:11:39,490 --> 00:11:42,120 They were politicians. They were businessmen. 170 00:11:42,201 --> 00:11:43,701 They were powerful people. 171 00:11:44,954 --> 00:11:47,964 It made me think that if I had run and caused a ruckus, 172 00:11:48,374 --> 00:11:51,464 the police wouldn't have believed me, they wouldn't have done anything about it, 173 00:11:51,544 --> 00:11:54,594 and Jeffrey and Ghislaine could have hurt me really bad then. 174 00:11:55,214 --> 00:11:57,174 He did say like, "People owe me favors. 175 00:11:57,550 --> 00:11:59,510 I can get away with this. I will never get caught. 176 00:11:59,593 --> 00:12:02,263 I own the Palm Beach Police Department." 177 00:12:11,105 --> 00:12:13,605 [James Patterson] Jeffrey Epstein fits into that pattern 178 00:12:13,691 --> 00:12:15,401 of thinking that he's above the law, 179 00:12:15,484 --> 00:12:17,494 that he can do what he feels like doing. 180 00:12:18,654 --> 00:12:22,624 But the life of privilege and power that Epstein lead 181 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:25,580 is a far, far cry from the way he was brought up. 182 00:12:26,537 --> 00:12:28,707 [children shouting, screaming] 183 00:12:28,789 --> 00:12:31,629 -[waves crashing] -[seagulls squawking] 184 00:12:33,377 --> 00:12:36,917 [Patterson] Epstein was born and raised in Coney Island, New York, 185 00:12:37,006 --> 00:12:39,836 which is very middle class, lower middle class. 186 00:12:40,342 --> 00:12:43,682 Epstein was a very good student in high school. He was a bright guy. 187 00:12:43,763 --> 00:12:47,223 He skipped a couple of grades in high school, graduated in 1969. 188 00:12:48,434 --> 00:12:50,234 [lawyer] What college did you attend? 189 00:12:50,311 --> 00:12:51,191 Cooper Union. 190 00:12:52,688 --> 00:12:54,608 [lawyer] Did you get a degree from Cooper Union? 191 00:12:54,690 --> 00:12:55,520 No, sir. 192 00:12:56,150 --> 00:12:58,030 [lawyer] How many years were you in college? 193 00:12:58,110 --> 00:12:59,990 [tuts] I believe two. 194 00:13:00,237 --> 00:13:01,567 [lawyer] What'd you study? 195 00:13:01,655 --> 00:13:02,525 Physics. 196 00:13:03,824 --> 00:13:06,204 [lawyer] But isn't it true that you were a teacher 197 00:13:06,952 --> 00:13:09,502 at the Dalton School in New York 198 00:13:10,498 --> 00:13:11,458 after college? 199 00:13:13,250 --> 00:13:14,840 [Patterson] The first mystery is 200 00:13:14,919 --> 00:13:20,799 how could Epstein get a job teaching at Dalton without a college degree? 201 00:13:22,051 --> 00:13:25,471 This was probably the start of Epstein's lifelong pattern 202 00:13:25,554 --> 00:13:28,854 of getting away with things that most people can't. 203 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:37,187 [man] In 1976, Ace Greenberg was running Bear Stearns. 204 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:41,070 One day, I was sitting in my office, 205 00:13:41,487 --> 00:13:46,447 and Ace Greenberg called me to say that a trustee of the Dalton School 206 00:13:46,534 --> 00:13:48,204 had a young professor, 207 00:13:48,285 --> 00:13:51,365 Jeff Epstein, who wanted to come to Wall Street, 208 00:13:51,455 --> 00:13:54,035 and Ace asked if I would interview him. 209 00:13:54,875 --> 00:13:59,125 Epstein was well-known as a good teacher and somewhat of a ladies man, 210 00:13:59,213 --> 00:14:01,343 which didn't resonate at the time. 211 00:14:03,050 --> 00:14:05,090 After grilling Jeffrey a few times, 212 00:14:05,177 --> 00:14:09,767 I hired him to develop and market our quantitative analyses for options. 213 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,139 He was terrific at it. 214 00:14:12,059 --> 00:14:13,889 Epstein was very quick-witted. 215 00:14:14,812 --> 00:14:18,862 When, uh, something arose that he might not have been able to predict, 216 00:14:19,275 --> 00:14:21,685 he dealt with it in an impressive fashion. 217 00:14:22,152 --> 00:14:24,532 That's a trait of an effective salesperson. 218 00:14:25,573 --> 00:14:28,413 I was favorably impressed that he could do the work. 219 00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:31,042 But this, I think, was one of my... 220 00:14:31,829 --> 00:14:33,709 important mistakes in my career. 221 00:14:38,168 --> 00:14:41,588 Epstein had been working for me perhaps two months. 222 00:14:41,672 --> 00:14:45,472 The head of personnel called me. He said, "Are you sitting down? 223 00:14:46,719 --> 00:14:50,599 Jeffrey Epstein lied on his résumé about his education. 224 00:14:51,599 --> 00:14:53,809 None of his colleges have ever heard of him." 225 00:14:54,435 --> 00:14:55,765 I was stunned. 226 00:14:57,187 --> 00:14:58,477 I hired a liar. 227 00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:01,234 Even worse, he was dating Ace's daughter. 228 00:15:02,026 --> 00:15:03,526 I went to Ace Greenberg. 229 00:15:03,611 --> 00:15:05,951 I wasn't sure how he would want me to proceed, 230 00:15:06,488 --> 00:15:09,158 and Ace said, "Treat him like anybody else." 231 00:15:10,451 --> 00:15:12,331 I was prepared to fire him. 232 00:15:13,287 --> 00:15:17,367 And this is where his sales skills really resonated. 233 00:15:17,458 --> 00:15:19,208 When I told him he'd lied, 234 00:15:19,543 --> 00:15:21,003 he admitted it immediately. 235 00:15:21,503 --> 00:15:22,633 He just said, 236 00:15:22,713 --> 00:15:27,093 "I knew I couldn't get a job teaching at a high-quality school 237 00:15:27,176 --> 00:15:30,296 if I didn't have good educational credentials, 238 00:15:30,387 --> 00:15:31,927 so I wanted to get a chance." 239 00:15:32,014 --> 00:15:34,434 I said, "Why didn't you tell us the truth?" 240 00:15:34,516 --> 00:15:37,016 He said, "Well, I was afraid the Dalton School would hear about it 241 00:15:37,102 --> 00:15:38,692 and there would be problems." 242 00:15:38,771 --> 00:15:40,111 He said, "I wanted to." 243 00:15:40,648 --> 00:15:43,568 And he did it in a way that was very convincing. 244 00:15:44,985 --> 00:15:46,105 He disarmed me. 245 00:15:47,029 --> 00:15:50,319 And I thought, "Do I want to play God and throw him in the street, 246 00:15:50,407 --> 00:15:52,327 maybe destroy his potential?" 247 00:15:54,370 --> 00:15:55,870 Today, I wish I had. 248 00:15:58,540 --> 00:16:01,960 He had done well enough that they made him a limited partner. 249 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:05,340 But then a few years after that, I heard he'd been fired 250 00:16:05,422 --> 00:16:06,972 for breaking some rules. 251 00:16:08,008 --> 00:16:11,008 I deeply regret giving Epstein a second chance. 252 00:16:11,679 --> 00:16:13,509 That was my tragedy. 253 00:16:29,822 --> 00:16:34,242 Most of the victims did not want to prosecute when we first contacted them. 254 00:16:34,660 --> 00:16:39,160 So once we had four or five victims who were cooperative, 255 00:16:39,248 --> 00:16:42,038 we presented applications for arrest warrants 256 00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:43,706 to the state attorney's office. 257 00:16:47,548 --> 00:16:50,008 From the time I first became police chief, 258 00:16:50,092 --> 00:16:53,552 I had an excellent relationship with the state attorney, 259 00:16:53,637 --> 00:16:54,677 Barry Krischer. 260 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:59,227 The first time that I talked about the case against Epstein with him, 261 00:16:59,309 --> 00:17:03,229 I explained that we had about 40-some victims who were in their teens, 262 00:17:03,313 --> 00:17:05,403 early teens in some cases, 263 00:17:05,733 --> 00:17:08,993 who had sex with an adult male in his 50s. 264 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:11,779 He said he didn't know Jeffrey Epstein and he remarked, 265 00:17:12,281 --> 00:17:14,831 "We'll put him away for the rest of his life. It's an easy case." 266 00:17:18,871 --> 00:17:21,211 [sinister music] 267 00:17:22,124 --> 00:17:25,294 [Marc Fisher] Jeffrey Epstein, both through his money and his connections, 268 00:17:25,377 --> 00:17:26,377 was able to assemble 269 00:17:26,462 --> 00:17:29,972 an extraordinary dream team of at least eight defense lawyers 270 00:17:30,049 --> 00:17:33,429 who were known throughout the country and throughout their industry 271 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,010 as the absolute best. 272 00:17:35,846 --> 00:17:38,176 From Clinton impeachment lawyer, Kenneth Starr, 273 00:17:38,265 --> 00:17:41,595 the top defense lawyers of South Florida, people like Roy Black, 274 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:44,769 New Yorkers like Jay Lefkowitz and Gerald Lefcourt 275 00:17:44,855 --> 00:17:47,895 to Harvard Law School Professor Alan Dershowitz. 276 00:17:52,237 --> 00:17:55,067 [Alan Dershowitz] I was born to be a criminal defense lawyer. 277 00:17:57,284 --> 00:17:58,874 If you want to be a defense attorney, 278 00:17:58,952 --> 00:18:01,002 you can't be concerned about what people think of you. 279 00:18:03,248 --> 00:18:06,628 So, I did represent Claus von Bülow, 280 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:11,720 O.J. Simpson, and Mike Tyson, and Leona Helmsley, and Patricia Hearst, 281 00:18:12,132 --> 00:18:14,012 and so many other people. 282 00:18:16,845 --> 00:18:19,595 My relationship with Jeffrey Epstein was academic 283 00:18:20,057 --> 00:18:21,137 and lawyer-client... 284 00:18:22,017 --> 00:18:25,727 but it was a close academic friendship. For example, when I would write books, 285 00:18:25,813 --> 00:18:27,903 I would only send them  to a handful of people. 286 00:18:27,981 --> 00:18:28,821 He was one of them 287 00:18:28,899 --> 00:18:33,239 because he would seriously read every word I wrote, 288 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,660 and he would have comments and criticisms. 289 00:18:36,573 --> 00:18:40,493 Jeffrey Epstein called me, I think, the day he got the first indications, 290 00:18:40,577 --> 00:18:42,537 and the first indications were merely 291 00:18:42,621 --> 00:18:46,961 that one or two of the women may have been 17, 292 00:18:47,042 --> 00:18:51,172 and may have lied about their age, had given him false documentation. 293 00:18:51,255 --> 00:18:56,545 He asked me if I would help represent him. I said I couldn't represent him myself, 294 00:18:56,635 --> 00:18:59,465 I'm not a member of the Florida bar, 295 00:19:00,222 --> 00:19:04,022 but that I would help him put together a legal team, and I did. 296 00:19:11,441 --> 00:19:12,821 [Fisher] Detectives quickly learned 297 00:19:13,318 --> 00:19:17,818 that Epstein was on to them and that he was organizing a defense. 298 00:19:17,906 --> 00:19:20,576 And, in fact, he was organizing an offense. 299 00:19:21,326 --> 00:19:25,246 Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys were looking into what the detectives were doing, 300 00:19:25,330 --> 00:19:27,170 who they were, what their pasts were, 301 00:19:27,249 --> 00:19:31,749 whether there were any peccadilloes that would make them vulnerable to attack. 302 00:19:33,964 --> 00:19:36,474 [Reiter] There was surveillance of me for months, 303 00:19:36,550 --> 00:19:39,090 round-the-clock surveillance of Detective Recarey, 304 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:43,468 around-the clock picking up of his trash at his home and my trash. 305 00:19:43,557 --> 00:19:46,307 And the reason that it happened to the degree that it did 306 00:19:46,393 --> 00:19:49,773 is because Mr. Epstein had the resources to do that. 307 00:19:50,272 --> 00:19:53,482 In fact, we found private investigators going through the trash 308 00:19:53,567 --> 00:19:55,067 at the police station. 309 00:19:55,152 --> 00:19:57,992 So we stopped putting the reports in the computer 310 00:19:58,071 --> 00:20:01,241 and actually had them kept separately. 311 00:20:03,869 --> 00:20:06,749 [Malloy] A few months after Chief Michael Reiter hands over 312 00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:09,710 the evidence to his close friend Barry Krischer, 313 00:20:09,791 --> 00:20:14,051 Reiter notes an alarming difference in Krischer's attitude towards Epstein. 314 00:20:15,130 --> 00:20:18,470 Krischer had all but said to his friend Chief Michael Reiter, 315 00:20:18,550 --> 00:20:20,800 "We're gonna string him up. You had a really solid case." 316 00:20:20,886 --> 00:20:21,716 And then suddenly, 317 00:20:21,803 --> 00:20:23,683 the teeth seems to go out of the investigation, 318 00:20:23,764 --> 00:20:28,024 at least on the side of the state attorney who was supposed to be prosecuting this. 319 00:20:29,770 --> 00:20:33,730 [Reiter] I had been speaking with Mr. Krischer along the way, 320 00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:36,645 and the state attorney's office  started saying, 321 00:20:36,735 --> 00:20:39,695 "Look, these victims will not make good witnesses. 322 00:20:40,739 --> 00:20:44,079 Yes, these victims, most of them, 323 00:20:44,159 --> 00:20:50,039 received financial compensation for, uh, the sexual contact with Mr. Epstein, 324 00:20:50,707 --> 00:20:53,877 but no child can consent to have sex with an adult." 325 00:20:55,629 --> 00:20:59,219 But we were never able to really convince the prosecutors 326 00:20:59,299 --> 00:21:00,509 that that didn't matter. 327 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:14,482 [Malloy] In a release, 328 00:21:14,564 --> 00:21:17,234 a high-powered local attorney Jack Goldberger, Epstein's attorney, 329 00:21:17,317 --> 00:21:20,647 emphasized the grand jury in this questioned the credibility of the girls 330 00:21:20,737 --> 00:21:24,657 and therefore limited their charges simply to solicitation of prostitution. 331 00:21:24,741 --> 00:21:27,121 Epstein is out on bond, and he is not talking. 332 00:21:33,709 --> 00:21:36,919 [woman] I've been a reporter at The Palm Beach Post for about 16 years. 333 00:21:38,338 --> 00:21:41,298 I think nobody knew anything until 2006, and then it just... 334 00:21:41,383 --> 00:21:43,223 [makes explosion sound] It exploded. 335 00:21:44,845 --> 00:21:48,465 Epstein's attorneys went after the victims viciously. 336 00:21:48,557 --> 00:21:51,687 I mean, their depositions that I've read were just, I mean, hideous. 337 00:21:51,768 --> 00:21:54,518 I remember one where he asked one of the young girls, 338 00:21:54,604 --> 00:21:56,444 "Is it true you've had three abortions?" 339 00:21:56,523 --> 00:21:59,443 And then they asked the girl, "Well, what's worse, 340 00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:02,736 having three abortions or giving sexual massages to Jeffrey Epstein?" 341 00:22:03,947 --> 00:22:06,487 It was just brutal what they did to these women. 342 00:22:09,369 --> 00:22:11,659 [Dershowitz] You must bring out all the negatives. 343 00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:14,207 You have to present the full picture. 344 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:21,170 Their credibility may be subject to question because of their backgrounds, 345 00:22:21,256 --> 00:22:24,086 but it has nothing to do with blaming them. 346 00:22:25,427 --> 00:22:26,927 It's the role of the defense attorney 347 00:22:27,012 --> 00:22:30,392 to raise questions about the credibility of any witnesses. 348 00:22:30,849 --> 00:22:34,059 We don't look at what's good for victims. We don't look at anything 349 00:22:34,144 --> 00:22:38,404 except what's good for our client, ethically and legally. 350 00:22:41,526 --> 00:22:44,106 [woman] I've been with the TV station in Palm Beach County 351 00:22:44,196 --> 00:22:46,446 for almost 23 years now. 352 00:22:47,074 --> 00:22:49,454 The Jeffrey Epstein story is as big as it gets. 353 00:22:50,243 --> 00:22:52,003 So when the story broke, 354 00:22:52,079 --> 00:22:56,329 we started realizing the gravity of a Palm Beach billionaire 355 00:22:56,416 --> 00:22:59,036 and the accusations that we were starting to hear, 356 00:22:59,127 --> 00:23:01,837 we were quickly on the air with this story, 357 00:23:02,756 --> 00:23:05,466 but Epstein's team wanted this to go away. 358 00:23:06,426 --> 00:23:08,596 There were weekly phone calls to reporters 359 00:23:09,137 --> 00:23:12,557 with threats to make the story go away. 360 00:23:12,641 --> 00:23:15,481 "You don't want to do this. You shouldn't be looking into this." 361 00:23:16,770 --> 00:23:19,980 And it was mystifying to the Palm Beach Police Department 362 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:22,565 because they had all this evidence. 363 00:23:23,985 --> 00:23:26,905 [reporter] Palm Beach Police think prostitution charges brought against 364 00:23:26,988 --> 00:23:30,578 billionaire socialite Jeffrey Epstein don't go far enough. 365 00:23:30,951 --> 00:23:33,791 Investigators think prosecutors should have gone after Epstein 366 00:23:33,870 --> 00:23:36,500 on charges of unlawful sex with a minor. 367 00:23:36,873 --> 00:23:38,503 So why didn't they? 368 00:23:40,627 --> 00:23:42,957 [Reiter] We were all extremely frustrated. 369 00:23:44,714 --> 00:23:45,804 Once we knew 370 00:23:45,882 --> 00:23:50,142 that the one charge was going to be the extent of the state's prosecution, 371 00:23:51,054 --> 00:23:54,934 I wrote the parents of all the victims and told them that 372 00:23:55,016 --> 00:23:57,726 I did not feel  that justice was sufficiently served, 373 00:23:58,395 --> 00:24:00,645 and that I was referring the case to the FBI. 374 00:24:04,192 --> 00:24:06,072 [Jane Musgrave] It's highly unusual for a police chief 375 00:24:06,153 --> 00:24:07,743 to sidestep the state attorney's office, 376 00:24:07,821 --> 00:24:10,781 and go directly to the feds, and demand an investigation. 377 00:24:10,866 --> 00:24:12,526 I don't know that I have ever heard of that, 378 00:24:12,617 --> 00:24:16,537 and I think that's one of the many, many odd things about this case. 379 00:24:22,711 --> 00:24:24,501 [Shannon Cake] Any investigator or investigation, 380 00:24:24,588 --> 00:24:27,298 the first thing you're going to do is look back in time and see: 381 00:24:27,382 --> 00:24:28,382 Has this happened before? 382 00:24:28,467 --> 00:24:30,467 Are there other claims? Are there other victims? 383 00:24:33,305 --> 00:24:35,135 The FBI actually found two women 384 00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:38,733 who had accused Epstein a decade earlier, in 1996. 385 00:24:39,186 --> 00:24:40,686 Maria Farmer, an artist, 386 00:24:41,354 --> 00:24:42,814 and her younger sister, Annie. 387 00:24:49,196 --> 00:24:51,946 [Maria Farmer] In 1996, following the assault 388 00:24:52,032 --> 00:24:53,532 by Jeffrey and Ghislaine, 389 00:24:53,617 --> 00:24:55,697 I came back to New York... 390 00:24:57,704 --> 00:25:01,634 and then I found out that they knew that I'd reported them to the FBI. 391 00:25:03,418 --> 00:25:06,708 Ghislaine called and said she was going to burn all my art, 392 00:25:07,172 --> 00:25:09,552 and burn my career and destroy it, 393 00:25:09,633 --> 00:25:13,353 she was entirely socially connected, and that I was screwed. 394 00:25:13,887 --> 00:25:16,137 She told me I needed to watch my back, 395 00:25:16,223 --> 00:25:18,893 that, "I know you like to go running on the West Side Highway, 396 00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,765 and that's not going to be a safe place for you anymore, 397 00:25:21,853 --> 00:25:24,523 because there are a lot of ways to die on the West Side Highway." 398 00:25:25,982 --> 00:25:31,202 From that point on, over many years, I would move, I would relocate, 399 00:25:31,613 --> 00:25:35,243 and a couple of months would go by, and I would be moving in, 400 00:25:35,825 --> 00:25:39,035 and Ghislaine... Ghislaine would call me. 401 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:41,120 She would say she knew where I lived. 402 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:46,090 She would say that same kinds of veiled threats like... 403 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,670 "You're not safe where you are. 404 00:25:48,755 --> 00:25:50,625 You might want to check over your shoulder." 405 00:25:55,929 --> 00:26:01,019 Finally, in 2006, I was living in the mountains of North Carolina. 406 00:26:01,851 --> 00:26:02,981 I was hiding. 407 00:26:03,603 --> 00:26:06,233 I had changed my name. I had an alias... 408 00:26:07,732 --> 00:26:11,782 and I get a knock on the door, and it's this man and this woman, 409 00:26:12,237 --> 00:26:15,117 and they show me their badge, they're FBI, 410 00:26:15,198 --> 00:26:17,278 and this woman said, 411 00:26:17,701 --> 00:26:20,751 "This is about your 1996 FBI report, 412 00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,749 and we're following up because we're going to get him. 413 00:26:23,832 --> 00:26:25,172 We're going to get them." 414 00:26:27,127 --> 00:26:28,377 [Annie Farmer] The FBI came, 415 00:26:28,461 --> 00:26:31,511 and they interviewed me, and they interviewed my sister, 416 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:33,010 and we told them our stories. 417 00:26:33,091 --> 00:26:36,511 And so we just thought, "Oh, my gosh! They're really... 418 00:26:36,595 --> 00:26:40,715 You know, they're doing a thorough job. They're looking at people in other places. 419 00:26:40,807 --> 00:26:43,887 They're recognizing that this is a more systemic issue, 420 00:26:43,977 --> 00:26:47,607 and they are... You know, he's gonna be held accountable." 421 00:26:52,944 --> 00:26:55,204 [Shawna Rivera] I talked to the FBI, and they're like, 422 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,740 "We're here to save you." 423 00:26:56,823 --> 00:26:58,203 And they assured me 424 00:26:58,283 --> 00:27:00,203 that they were going to protect me, 425 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:03,365 and that they needed me to tell them everything that happened. 426 00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:07,289 And they would help as many victims as they can. 427 00:27:08,585 --> 00:27:10,125 [Sigrid McCawley] I think a lot of the families, 428 00:27:10,211 --> 00:27:12,711 when they came to learn what had happened to their daughters, 429 00:27:12,797 --> 00:27:16,177 reached out to attorneys to try to help them navigate this circumstance, 430 00:27:16,259 --> 00:27:18,549 because obviously there was a criminal aspect to it, 431 00:27:18,637 --> 00:27:20,347 there was a civil aspect to it, 432 00:27:20,430 --> 00:27:23,480 and they were also facing somebody who is incredibly powerful, 433 00:27:23,558 --> 00:27:26,268 incredibly wealthy, incredibly intimidating, 434 00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:29,193 so they needed lawyers to help them through that process. 435 00:27:43,953 --> 00:27:46,253 [man] The first time I heard Jeffrey Epstein's name 436 00:27:46,331 --> 00:27:47,921 was when I had my own law firm 437 00:27:48,416 --> 00:27:52,376 dedicated to representing crime victims in civil cases. 438 00:27:53,588 --> 00:27:55,968 A friend of mine from Jacksonville, who was also a lawyer, 439 00:27:56,049 --> 00:28:02,059 he called me and said that he had received a call from a girl. 440 00:28:03,264 --> 00:28:04,854 And that was Courtney Wild. 441 00:28:05,892 --> 00:28:07,272 Courtney came to my office. 442 00:28:07,602 --> 00:28:10,192 Then she told me how she went into his house 443 00:28:10,271 --> 00:28:11,561 and told me what happened there. 444 00:28:17,946 --> 00:28:22,736 [woman] I was 14 when I was introduced to Jeffrey Epstein. 445 00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:26,789 It was eighth grade summer, going from eighth grade to high school. 446 00:28:29,290 --> 00:28:32,790 From sixth, seventh and eighth grade, I was a straight-A student. 447 00:28:32,877 --> 00:28:34,457 I never even got a B. 448 00:28:34,546 --> 00:28:38,126 I played the trumpet. I was captain of the cheerleading squad... 449 00:28:39,551 --> 00:28:45,391 but then from eighth grade to ninth grade, things fell apart for me and my family. 450 00:28:46,182 --> 00:28:50,352 Just from, um... my mom's addiction. 451 00:28:50,437 --> 00:28:54,067 She was sick, battling her own demons, wasn't really able to care for me, 452 00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:56,529 and I was basically homeless 453 00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:59,319 and living at friends' houses and stuff like that. 454 00:29:02,699 --> 00:29:04,489 When I first went to Jeffrey's, 455 00:29:04,576 --> 00:29:07,536 I really was expecting I was going to make easy money 456 00:29:07,620 --> 00:29:09,210 giving this guy a massage. 457 00:29:09,706 --> 00:29:12,916 And that situation escalated to him molesting me. 458 00:29:14,461 --> 00:29:18,171 It happened so quick where it's like, "What just happened?" 459 00:29:19,507 --> 00:29:22,927 But being vulnerable at 14 years old, 460 00:29:23,011 --> 00:29:29,021 and trying to handle life on my own, it was just overwhelming, so... 461 00:29:29,434 --> 00:29:31,904 um, I did continue to go back to Jeffrey's. 462 00:29:32,395 --> 00:29:34,145 He made me feel like, 463 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:38,650 you know, basically, I was lucky to be in his presence. 464 00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:44,815 It was just a glorified manipulation thing he had going on and that worked. 465 00:29:48,244 --> 00:29:51,794 It was maybe the second time I went to him or the third. 466 00:29:52,165 --> 00:29:54,285 He asked me, do I have any friends, 467 00:29:54,375 --> 00:29:55,915 can I bring anybody? 468 00:29:56,002 --> 00:29:59,842 And he would give me $200 and the person $200. 469 00:30:01,549 --> 00:30:04,679 In my time frame of going for three to four years, 470 00:30:04,761 --> 00:30:07,181 I at least brought him about 40 to 60 girls. 471 00:30:08,556 --> 00:30:11,596 I know that this is wrong, this is crazy, 472 00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:15,694 but I just became okay with that because of what he offered me. 473 00:30:15,772 --> 00:30:19,442 He offered me cash. He offered me a way 474 00:30:19,943 --> 00:30:21,653 so I could eat and pay my bills, 475 00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:24,526 and he offered me something that nobody else did. 476 00:30:26,199 --> 00:30:27,869 I felt like he was my lifeline. 477 00:30:37,544 --> 00:30:39,714 [Courtney Wild] So, in the beginning of the investigation 478 00:30:39,796 --> 00:30:42,166 when the police were reaching out to me, 479 00:30:42,257 --> 00:30:43,337 I was confused. 480 00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:47,804 I felt like I had this painting of Jeffrey that he was this awesome man, 481 00:30:48,137 --> 00:30:50,597 that he actually saved my life in a sense, 482 00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:53,522 that I was very lucky to ever be introduced to him. 483 00:30:55,019 --> 00:30:58,899 But then I see the police reports of girls that I had brought to Jeffrey's, 484 00:30:59,482 --> 00:31:00,532 close friends, 485 00:31:01,234 --> 00:31:03,614 and that made me have the change of heart. 486 00:31:04,779 --> 00:31:06,319 The emotions come over 487 00:31:06,906 --> 00:31:09,736 of, like, guilt, and shame, and disgust. 488 00:31:10,285 --> 00:31:11,445 It was traumatic. 489 00:31:12,662 --> 00:31:13,912 That's when I started saying, 490 00:31:13,997 --> 00:31:16,747 "Okay, this isn't right. Something needs to happen about this." 491 00:31:18,585 --> 00:31:22,415 So I find Brad Edwards, my attorney. 492 00:31:23,506 --> 00:31:26,296 [Brad Edwards] I told her, "You don't really have much to worry about. 493 00:31:26,926 --> 00:31:31,136 This is somebody who is not ever going to be free again." 494 00:31:31,598 --> 00:31:34,348 She said, "But I don't think you understand the level of power he has." 495 00:31:35,768 --> 00:31:37,058 It's just unheard of. 496 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,055 It's just an unbelievable scheme to have kept going 497 00:31:40,148 --> 00:31:42,278 for that long of a period of time. 498 00:31:42,817 --> 00:31:44,567 I've never heard anything like this 499 00:31:44,652 --> 00:31:47,912 where somebody was able to set up basically a pyramid scheme, 500 00:31:47,989 --> 00:31:50,069 a molestation pyramid scheme. 501 00:31:54,203 --> 00:31:55,583 Hey, do you have the victim chart? 502 00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:57,253 -The chart that we created? -Yeah. 503 00:31:59,042 --> 00:32:01,172 Well, this is when we were first... 504 00:32:02,337 --> 00:32:04,757 trying to map out the case. 505 00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:06,553 We had to prove 506 00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:11,681 that this pyramid of underage girls in Palm Beach... 507 00:32:12,639 --> 00:32:13,679 was true. 508 00:32:14,307 --> 00:32:18,647 It didn't start from just a random underage girl walking into the house. 509 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:21,810 Ghislaine Maxwell was one of the recruiters 510 00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:24,858 of the underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein. 511 00:32:24,943 --> 00:32:27,033 The other recruiters that were identified 512 00:32:27,111 --> 00:32:28,571 were Sarah Kellen, 513 00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,365 Nadia Marcinkova, 514 00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:31,908 Adriana Mucinska, 515 00:32:31,991 --> 00:32:34,291 and we just started tracking 516 00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:39,039 if this person, which name is not identified right now, 517 00:32:39,123 --> 00:32:41,253 was an underage girl. 518 00:32:41,626 --> 00:32:42,706 "Who did you bring?" 519 00:32:43,294 --> 00:32:45,514 And then from that person we would bridge down, 520 00:32:45,588 --> 00:32:46,668 "How many did you bring?" 521 00:32:46,756 --> 00:32:49,546 And she would name the other five or six people. 522 00:32:49,634 --> 00:32:53,104 This was something that we assembled in about 30 days 523 00:32:53,179 --> 00:32:57,349 and realized that this chart could go off like a spider web 524 00:32:57,433 --> 00:33:01,063 for, you know, five times as big as this chart. 525 00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:06,480 [McCawley] So at the top of the pyramid scheme was Ghislaine Maxwell, 526 00:33:06,567 --> 00:33:08,527 who was really Epstein's right-hand person 527 00:33:08,611 --> 00:33:11,741 with helping to recruit these individuals for sexual abuse. 528 00:33:13,866 --> 00:33:16,616 [Vicky Ward] Jeffrey and Ghislaine met in New York. 529 00:33:17,662 --> 00:33:21,172 Jeffrey Epstein's really an introvert. 530 00:33:21,541 --> 00:33:27,881 Ghislaine is a much more charming person than Jeffrey is. 531 00:33:27,964 --> 00:33:29,094 She's an extrovert. 532 00:33:29,924 --> 00:33:33,514 I think he revels in being this man of mystery, 533 00:33:33,970 --> 00:33:37,520 who almost can't be bothered to dress properly. 534 00:33:37,598 --> 00:33:39,808 He can't be bothered to go to restaurants, 535 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,270 and he likes the sort of intrigue that that creates about him. 536 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:46,690 Ghislaine is a very engaging person. 537 00:33:46,774 --> 00:33:49,864 She's extremely charismatic and bubbly. 538 00:33:51,362 --> 00:33:56,832 Her father, Robert Maxwell, had been an incredibly big figure in England. 539 00:33:57,201 --> 00:34:00,251 He was a big newspaper publisher. 540 00:34:00,663 --> 00:34:04,293 In fact, he'd been something of a con man and a fraudster, 541 00:34:04,375 --> 00:34:06,125 but he'd lived a huge life. 542 00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:11,381 When Ghislaine came to New York, 543 00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:14,176 her whole world had fallen apart. 544 00:34:14,761 --> 00:34:19,641 Her father, who she was incredibly attached to... 545 00:34:20,349 --> 00:34:23,389 had died in very murky circumstances, 546 00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:27,228 and also his entire reputation had been shattered. 547 00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:35,110 Jeffrey, in a way, felt like a safe haven for her. Here was... 548 00:34:35,990 --> 00:34:40,830 another very rich man to sort of replace her father. 549 00:34:45,041 --> 00:34:49,841 [sinister music] 550 00:34:55,176 --> 00:34:58,386 [man] I've been covering Wall Street since at least 1991. 551 00:34:59,388 --> 00:35:03,268 You know, Jeffrey Epstein was always someone whose name popped up, 552 00:35:03,768 --> 00:35:05,728 but I couldn't really nail it down. 553 00:35:05,937 --> 00:35:07,147 He was a cipher. 554 00:35:08,648 --> 00:35:11,108 People I know on Wall Street leave trails. 555 00:35:11,567 --> 00:35:13,397 His trail was elusive. 556 00:35:14,278 --> 00:35:16,738 So it was just sort of odd that here was this guy 557 00:35:16,823 --> 00:35:19,033 that people talked about a lot, 558 00:35:19,325 --> 00:35:21,655 that didn't have much of a footprint in the investment world. 559 00:35:22,787 --> 00:35:26,867 That's the mystery of Jeffrey Epstein. You know, how did he make money? 560 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,300 [man] I deeply regret 561 00:35:35,675 --> 00:35:37,295 that I met Jeffrey Epstein, 562 00:35:37,593 --> 00:35:42,273 who is somebody that has haunted me for over 30 years. 563 00:35:43,766 --> 00:35:47,306 Without me, he wouldn't be  the billionaire he is today, 564 00:35:47,395 --> 00:35:49,805 and these poor girls would not be raped. 565 00:35:49,897 --> 00:35:54,817 And I'm here for redemption and to tell the story to the public. 566 00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:56,948 [car horn beeping] 567 00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:02,159 [Steven Hoffenberg] I met Jeff Epstein in the '80s 568 00:36:02,952 --> 00:36:06,252 after he was thrown out of Bear Stearns. 569 00:36:06,914 --> 00:36:10,334 I was the CEO of Towers Financial Corporation. 570 00:36:12,962 --> 00:36:18,342 [Ward] Steve Hoffenberg and Jeffrey were both self-made guys. 571 00:36:18,759 --> 00:36:23,009 But when Jeffrey met him, Hoffenberg was the sort of... the mogul. 572 00:36:23,097 --> 00:36:27,187 He was the one flying around in private planes. 573 00:36:27,268 --> 00:36:30,348 He was the one with the wealth. 574 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,610 [Hoffenberg] The CEO of a very large company 575 00:36:35,693 --> 00:36:38,453 who had employed Jeffrey Epstein in Europe 576 00:36:38,821 --> 00:36:41,701 called me and said, "This is a brilliant man 577 00:36:41,782 --> 00:36:44,992 that we'd like you to interview for North America 578 00:36:45,411 --> 00:36:50,251 because he has credentials on Wall Street, and he's loaded with energy, 579 00:36:50,541 --> 00:36:53,041 but his moral compass is upside down." 580 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,380 Jeffrey Epstein had cheated and stolen money on his expense account. 581 00:37:00,259 --> 00:37:02,889 He definitely appealed to us, 582 00:37:02,970 --> 00:37:05,970 because we were running a Ponzi scheme. [chuckles] 583 00:37:06,807 --> 00:37:08,177 And he understood Wall Street, 584 00:37:08,267 --> 00:37:14,607 and he could deliver substantial results in this criminal enterprise. 585 00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:21,531 So I interviewed Jeffrey Epstein, and he took control of the interview. 586 00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:25,534 He's got a gift that's extraordinary, 587 00:37:25,618 --> 00:37:28,788 where he controls the people he meets 588 00:37:28,871 --> 00:37:32,421 and manipulates them totally with his charisma. 589 00:37:45,471 --> 00:37:49,601 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein became my partner in crime, 590 00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:52,854 backing me up, leading the advance, 591 00:37:52,937 --> 00:37:57,147 doing the crimes alongside me daily. 592 00:37:57,650 --> 00:38:01,320 He took over the securities side, 593 00:38:01,821 --> 00:38:03,821 the fake assets side. 594 00:38:04,115 --> 00:38:06,025 He was manipulating stock price 595 00:38:06,575 --> 00:38:08,735 and trading stock illegally. 596 00:38:11,414 --> 00:38:16,044 [Ward] People involved certainly remembered Jeffrey 597 00:38:16,127 --> 00:38:19,837 as being incredibly important in coming up 598 00:38:20,214 --> 00:38:22,434 with how the scheme would work. 599 00:38:24,343 --> 00:38:27,933 Then the law caught up to this massive scam. 600 00:38:30,474 --> 00:38:34,734 [Hoffenberg] I stood up, plead guilty, and accepted the responsibility. 601 00:38:35,146 --> 00:38:38,436 My sentence was for 20 years in federal prison... 602 00:38:39,775 --> 00:38:43,395 and I didn't turn evidence against him 603 00:38:43,487 --> 00:38:48,367 because Jeffrey Epstein told me he was a cooperating witness 604 00:38:48,451 --> 00:38:51,581 for the United States Department of Justice in the past 605 00:38:51,996 --> 00:38:54,076 and he had traction with them. 606 00:38:54,540 --> 00:38:59,880 I believe that Jeffrey Epstein would have been able to discredit me 607 00:38:59,962 --> 00:39:03,802 and say he was the White Knight and he was immaculate, 608 00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,800 and I knew that was his plan. 609 00:39:08,637 --> 00:39:13,887 You can't grasp the magnitude of this man's controlling effect. 610 00:39:13,976 --> 00:39:18,976 Jeffrey Epstein was able to control and manipulate people 611 00:39:19,523 --> 00:39:21,613 in an extreme method. 612 00:39:22,818 --> 00:39:24,568 That was typical Jeffrey Epstein. 613 00:39:25,571 --> 00:39:28,701 It's very clear that that is Jeffrey's MO, 614 00:39:28,783 --> 00:39:33,953 is to hold things over people, hold their secrets over people, I suspect. 615 00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:36,333 Um, you know, there's a pattern here. 616 00:39:38,125 --> 00:39:43,165 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein's methods started with Leslie Wexner 617 00:39:43,506 --> 00:39:47,716 when Jeffrey Epstein sold his soul to Leslie Wexner 618 00:39:47,802 --> 00:39:50,142 for several billion dollars of investment. 619 00:39:58,938 --> 00:40:04,398 [man] Jeff Epstein met Les Wexner somewhere around 1986. 620 00:40:08,823 --> 00:40:11,533 This is Mr. Wexner's gate house, 621 00:40:11,992 --> 00:40:15,202 and beyond that gate house is a massive compound 622 00:40:15,287 --> 00:40:19,207 and the most expensive house in central Ohio. 623 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:25,967 Les Wexner started out in 1963 624 00:40:26,382 --> 00:40:30,512 opening the women's fashion apparel shop, The Limited. 625 00:40:31,220 --> 00:40:34,140 Les bought various other brands, 626 00:40:34,765 --> 00:40:38,015 Abercrombie & Fitch and Victoria's Secret. 627 00:40:38,853 --> 00:40:42,313 Through all of that, became a multi-billionaire. 628 00:40:43,315 --> 00:40:47,815 At some point,  Les Wexner provided a power of attorney 629 00:40:47,903 --> 00:40:51,743 to Jeffrey Epstein over his financial affairs. 630 00:40:53,075 --> 00:40:57,955 I was astonished because Les Wexner is not the kind of guy 631 00:40:58,038 --> 00:41:01,498 who gives up control over anything. 632 00:41:02,042 --> 00:41:04,962 Epstein was this Svengali figure 633 00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:09,175 that seems to have some unexplainable grip, 634 00:41:09,258 --> 00:41:11,588 uh, over this titan of industry. 635 00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:16,639 There are people in the late '80s, early '90s 636 00:41:16,724 --> 00:41:20,194 that referred to Epstein  as "the boyfriend." 637 00:41:22,229 --> 00:41:27,029 [Hoffenberg] Jeffrey Epstein was working with both of us at the same time. 638 00:41:28,152 --> 00:41:31,992 He was going to Ohio regularly on a jet 639 00:41:32,072 --> 00:41:35,532 that was provided to Jeffrey by Leslie Wexner. 640 00:41:37,203 --> 00:41:41,253 Epstein explained to me personally 641 00:41:41,332 --> 00:41:47,672 that he could control the emotions of Leslie Wexner easily 642 00:41:48,047 --> 00:41:51,257 because Leslie Wexner was fascinated 643 00:41:51,342 --> 00:41:54,852 and Wexner totally adored Epstein. 644 00:41:55,846 --> 00:41:58,016 [Edwards] Do you consider yourself to be bisexual? 645 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:00,773 -No. -[Edwards] Okay. 646 00:42:01,852 --> 00:42:05,312 In any even, you did develop a sexual relationship 647 00:42:05,397 --> 00:42:08,147 with Leslie Wexner at some point in time, is that true? 648 00:42:08,234 --> 00:42:09,074 No. 649 00:42:11,070 --> 00:42:16,160 [Hoffenberg] Epstein told me how he planned to manipulate and control 650 00:42:16,242 --> 00:42:20,082 Leslie Wexner's fortune of billions of dollars 651 00:42:20,412 --> 00:42:25,172 so that Jeffrey Epstein could invest 652 00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:28,709 and make substantial income. 653 00:42:41,433 --> 00:42:43,893 In 2019, Les Wexner revealed 654 00:42:43,978 --> 00:42:46,978 that he had cut ties with Epstein back in 2007. 655 00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:52,315 He said he discovered Epstein had stolen more than 46 million dollars from him. 656 00:42:52,403 --> 00:42:54,363 He didn't explain why he didn't press charges. 657 00:42:56,365 --> 00:42:58,075 [Les Wexner] Being taken advantage of 658 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:02,286 by someone who was, uh, so sick, 659 00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:05,081 so cunning, uh, so depraved... 660 00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:06,421 uhm... 661 00:43:06,875 --> 00:43:10,665 is something that I'm embarrassed that I was even close to. 662 00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:23,519 [sinister music] 663 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,570 [woman] I was, uh, a model and actress. 664 00:43:30,649 --> 00:43:32,189 [man] Alicia! What's up? 665 00:43:32,735 --> 00:43:34,355 [Alicia Arden] When my friend said, 666 00:43:34,445 --> 00:43:37,735 "This guy can get you in the Victoria's Secret catalog," 667 00:43:37,823 --> 00:43:38,953 I jumped. 668 00:43:40,409 --> 00:43:45,619 Jeffrey Epstein was staying at Shutters hotel in Santa Monica, California. 669 00:43:45,706 --> 00:43:47,876 So I met him at his hotel room. 670 00:43:48,250 --> 00:43:51,420 He said he knows  the owner of Victoria's Secret. 671 00:43:51,837 --> 00:43:55,377 So he started opening my portfolio of pictures... 672 00:43:56,342 --> 00:43:57,642 and then he said, 673 00:43:57,718 --> 00:43:59,848 "Let me see you in your bra and underwear." 674 00:43:59,928 --> 00:44:05,308 Then he started putting his hands on me and my hips and my butt. 675 00:44:06,685 --> 00:44:11,105 I really felt at the time that I was going to be raped or attacked. 676 00:44:11,523 --> 00:44:13,483 I ran out of the room crying. 677 00:44:14,985 --> 00:44:18,815 I drove to the Santa Monica Police Department to file a police report. 678 00:44:21,075 --> 00:44:23,365 I don't remember him ever being investigated. 679 00:44:23,452 --> 00:44:24,662 No one called me. 680 00:44:26,205 --> 00:44:28,075 He didn't get in trouble over it. 681 00:44:28,540 --> 00:44:32,040 It was like nothing really ever happened. 682 00:44:48,227 --> 00:44:51,397 [man] I've been a private investigator now for about ten years, 683 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,650 but I'd say 80% of my job is... 684 00:44:55,567 --> 00:44:57,527 on the street finding information. 685 00:44:58,612 --> 00:45:01,532 When I started working on this case for Brad Edwards, 686 00:45:02,282 --> 00:45:07,002 he told me that the FBI is doing a parallel case, 687 00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:08,959 but they really don't have much. 688 00:45:09,206 --> 00:45:11,916 It was just really going along slow. 689 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,300 I'm a fan of the FBI. I work very closely with them. 690 00:45:16,922 --> 00:45:19,512 So I said, "Well, okay. Maybe I can speed it up for them." 691 00:45:20,092 --> 00:45:22,762 I had one daughter at the time when I started working the case 692 00:45:22,845 --> 00:45:24,005 who was 21, 693 00:45:24,596 --> 00:45:27,016 and one daughter was 15. 694 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:31,770 It didn't only make me think about my own daughters, 695 00:45:31,854 --> 00:45:34,824 it made me think about all the years I spent in law enforcement 696 00:45:34,898 --> 00:45:40,398 that I had to interview abused girls or girls that were victims of a pedophile 697 00:45:40,738 --> 00:45:43,278 and how broken these girls became. 698 00:45:46,910 --> 00:45:51,750 These are the girls that I have been able to identify myself that were victims, 699 00:45:52,124 --> 00:45:54,334 thirteen, and 14, and 15 years old. 700 00:45:54,793 --> 00:45:56,883 As you can see, there's a volume of them. 701 00:45:58,338 --> 00:46:01,758 I started going to the depressed areas of West Palm Beach, 702 00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,552 to these neighborhoods, 703 00:46:03,635 --> 00:46:05,595 and I would meet someone, 704 00:46:06,096 --> 00:46:09,476 or one of the girls that Brad was representing would know someone, 705 00:46:09,558 --> 00:46:10,888 give me a lead, 706 00:46:10,976 --> 00:46:15,266 and that's how I started finding girl after girl after girl. 707 00:46:16,565 --> 00:46:20,485 I think I must have found  like 46 other girls that were assaulted. 708 00:46:21,028 --> 00:46:23,738 Some of the victims were very reluctant to talk to me, 709 00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:26,122 but I was at least able to get their names, 710 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,750 who they were and where they lived, which I later gave to the FBI. 711 00:46:29,828 --> 00:46:33,208 [sinister music] 712 00:46:37,461 --> 00:46:38,501 Everybody feared him, 713 00:46:38,587 --> 00:46:42,587 and fear was his greatest asset. 714 00:46:42,674 --> 00:46:45,054 I mean, that's what gave him his power. 715 00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:49,520 So I took it upon myself as civil prosecutor, 716 00:46:49,598 --> 00:46:53,268 and I served Jeffrey Epstein for a deposition 717 00:46:53,519 --> 00:46:56,229 and tried to achieve justice  for the victims. 718 00:46:58,106 --> 00:47:00,936 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein, how long have you been  719 00:47:01,026 --> 00:47:04,276 sexually attracted to underage minor females? 720 00:47:04,988 --> 00:47:07,238 [lawyer] Objection. Harassing, argumentative. 721 00:47:07,324 --> 00:47:08,414 Are you kidding? 722 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,999 [Edwards] No, I mean, I don't feel like I'm divulging any secrets here, right? 723 00:47:16,834 --> 00:47:17,924 [lawyer] Move to strike. 724 00:47:19,711 --> 00:47:23,631 I was starting to really get on Jeffrey Epstein's nerves for sure. 725 00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:25,875 There's no doubt. Was I trying to? 726 00:47:26,385 --> 00:47:27,215 I guess so. 727 00:47:29,054 --> 00:47:30,014 [Edwards] Mr. Epstein? 728 00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:30,927 Yeah. 729 00:47:31,515 --> 00:47:33,805 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 730 00:47:35,936 --> 00:47:36,976 Wait, say that again? 731 00:47:37,354 --> 00:47:39,654 [Edwards] Were you sexually abused as a minor? 732 00:47:39,898 --> 00:47:43,278 [sighs] You know, I'd like to... Again, I'd like to respond to all your... 733 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,570 If any questions seem to be relevant, 734 00:47:45,654 --> 00:47:48,914 but I would like to respond to any relevant question at this time. 735 00:47:48,991 --> 00:47:52,291 However, my attorneys have counseled me that I cannot provide answers 736 00:47:52,369 --> 00:47:54,749 to the questions relevant to this lawsuit today. 737 00:47:55,205 --> 00:47:58,205 I must accept their advice or risk losing my Sixth Amendment right 738 00:47:58,292 --> 00:47:59,882 to effective representation. 739 00:48:00,544 --> 00:48:04,554 Accordingly then, I assert my Fifth, Sixth, and Fourteenth Amendment rights 740 00:48:04,631 --> 00:48:06,381 in the United States Constitution. 741 00:48:14,182 --> 00:48:15,232 [Mike Fisten] Pretty soon, 742 00:48:15,309 --> 00:48:18,649 Epstein's investigators started conducting surveillance on Brad. 743 00:48:19,187 --> 00:48:21,897 They were trying to find out 744 00:48:21,982 --> 00:48:26,112 if they can catch Brad doing anything wrong after hours, 745 00:48:26,194 --> 00:48:28,954 during hours, then try to blackmail him. 746 00:48:31,033 --> 00:48:32,123 But then, 747 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:36,000 it became intimidation because they started surveilling Brad's house, 748 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:38,165 where his wife and kids live. 749 00:48:39,082 --> 00:48:42,382 [Edwards] When my wife noticed that somebody was following her, I thought, 750 00:48:42,461 --> 00:48:45,921 "Okay, it's just getting out of hand. Now that's my family." 751 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,510 He tried to intimidate me into just abandoning my clients, 752 00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:53,562 which I was never going to do. That was never going to happen. 753 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,600 [Reiter] They were investigating the victims as well. 754 00:48:58,685 --> 00:49:01,605 We had several victims report to us that 755 00:49:01,688 --> 00:49:07,148 people posing as law enforcement officers were contacting the victims and... 756 00:49:08,028 --> 00:49:10,198 in some cases, intimidating them. 757 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,700 [sinister music] 758 00:49:16,536 --> 00:49:17,866 [Rivera] I started noticing 759 00:49:17,955 --> 00:49:20,535 there were cars that would sit at the end of my street. 760 00:49:20,624 --> 00:49:23,464 I had these people constantly watching me. 761 00:49:24,336 --> 00:49:27,706 So I called my attorney, and I told him what was going on. 762 00:49:28,131 --> 00:49:29,171 Brad figured out 763 00:49:29,257 --> 00:49:32,547 that most of these vehicles were actually private investigators 764 00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:34,676 that were following and watching me. 765 00:49:35,973 --> 00:49:37,643 While she was sleeping in her bed, 766 00:49:37,724 --> 00:49:39,854 Jeffrey Epstein's investigators set their car up 767 00:49:39,935 --> 00:49:41,435 across the street from her house, 768 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,900 and just shined their bright lights through her window all night. 769 00:49:48,026 --> 00:49:50,356 [Rivera] So Brad sent Mike Fisten over. 770 00:49:50,779 --> 00:49:53,869 They had this private investigator war, 771 00:49:53,949 --> 00:49:57,079 cameras against one another, recording each other. 772 00:49:57,619 --> 00:49:59,789 [Fisten] When I showed up, he was still here. 773 00:49:59,871 --> 00:50:01,421 I took pictures of his car, 774 00:50:01,790 --> 00:50:03,920 and then I took pictures of him in his car. 775 00:50:04,126 --> 00:50:06,496 With me there looking at him, 776 00:50:07,045 --> 00:50:08,375 he's still videotaping. 777 00:50:09,715 --> 00:50:11,925 It was really... It was kind of scary. 778 00:50:12,467 --> 00:50:16,217 Mike puts me in his car and he says, "We're going to get out of here." 779 00:50:16,304 --> 00:50:17,604 [Fisten] Don't follow her. 780 00:50:20,559 --> 00:50:24,859 [Rivera] And he drove me like hours down south and like put me in a hotel, 781 00:50:25,355 --> 00:50:28,275 where I hid and was basically just told like, 782 00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:30,688 "Your family's going to be safer if you're not home 783 00:50:30,777 --> 00:50:33,697 because they're not gonna... harass you now." 784 00:50:35,032 --> 00:50:38,742 Why do I have to make my family... 785 00:50:39,661 --> 00:50:44,421 safe from somebody who should be sitting in jail? 786 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,000 [insects buzzing and chirping] 787 00:50:50,422 --> 00:50:52,472 [birds chirping] 788 00:51:00,265 --> 00:51:02,095 [Reiter] This was a cooperative investigation 789 00:51:02,184 --> 00:51:04,904 between the FBI and the US attorney's office. 790 00:51:05,395 --> 00:51:08,475 Although we were not an official partner to the investigation, 791 00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:09,975 they kept us informed. 792 00:51:10,067 --> 00:51:13,857 We cooperated, we introduced them to the victims that we knew of, 793 00:51:14,112 --> 00:51:17,202 we gave them all of the background information, 794 00:51:17,282 --> 00:51:20,872 and what's written between the lines that doesn't appear in a report. 795 00:51:21,828 --> 00:51:25,168 [Fisten] The agent on the case, Kuyrkendall, is a great agent. 796 00:51:25,916 --> 00:51:30,166 And she put together this case against this pedophile 797 00:51:30,670 --> 00:51:35,220 that was going to put him in prison the rest of his life 798 00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,510 if he just gets convicted of one count. 799 00:51:37,594 --> 00:51:40,724 The government had a plethora of information at their fingertips. 800 00:51:40,806 --> 00:51:44,266 They had 35 to 40 different victims that were willing to give testimony. 801 00:51:44,851 --> 00:51:48,561 They had information showing victims being transported across state lines, 802 00:51:48,647 --> 00:51:51,607 whether it be in private planes or on commercial flights. 803 00:51:51,691 --> 00:51:54,951 So, they had a 53-page indictment prepared 804 00:51:55,362 --> 00:51:57,862 because they had just an immense amount of information 805 00:51:57,948 --> 00:51:59,778 that they could charge Epstein with. 806 00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:04,499 [Reiter] I asked for an appointment with Alex Acosta. 807 00:52:04,579 --> 00:52:08,379 Alex Acosta at the time was the US attorney. 808 00:52:09,751 --> 00:52:14,171 I met with him and his team in Mr. Acosta's office. 809 00:52:14,256 --> 00:52:18,336 I told them that I would like to know from them 810 00:52:18,426 --> 00:52:21,386 that they were going to prosecute this case, 811 00:52:21,471 --> 00:52:26,391 and follow through with it, and, uh, get justice for the victims. 812 00:52:26,977 --> 00:52:29,897 I left my meeting with Alex Acosta thinking 813 00:52:29,980 --> 00:52:33,320 that Jeffrey Epstein would go to jail for the rest of his life. 814 00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:37,699 [sinister music] 815 00:52:41,241 --> 00:52:43,331 The case had been turned over to the federal government 816 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:44,370 for more than two years, 817 00:52:45,078 --> 00:52:46,958 but I hadn't heard anything. 818 00:52:47,289 --> 00:52:51,709 I just want to know what's going on, so I call and speak with Marie Villafaña 819 00:52:51,793 --> 00:52:53,463 of the US attorney's office, 820 00:52:53,545 --> 00:52:57,585 and she confirmed that this is a massive case. 821 00:52:57,674 --> 00:53:00,934 I started asking when she thought a trial was actually going to happen, 822 00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:04,218 and I remember her telling me that, 823 00:53:04,514 --> 00:53:06,314 "There's just a lot that I want to tell you, 824 00:53:06,391 --> 00:53:10,021 and I know that your heart's in the right place, and mine is too. 825 00:53:10,103 --> 00:53:13,483 There's a lot that I want to tell you, Brad, that I can't tell you." 826 00:53:13,940 --> 00:53:16,780 And that's when I started thinking something was going on. 827 00:53:17,986 --> 00:53:21,736 [Reiter] Suddenly, when we'd call the FBI agents, 828 00:53:21,823 --> 00:53:23,953 they would tell us they were forbidden to talk 829 00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:27,204 with any representative of Palm Beach Police Department about the case. 830 00:53:27,287 --> 00:53:29,867 It's the only time that ever happened in my 30 years 831 00:53:29,956 --> 00:53:31,496 as a law enforcement officer. 832 00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:37,209 [male reporter] Epstein's personal 727 aircraft 833 00:53:37,297 --> 00:53:40,337 arrived at PBIA from Newark at 5:00 p.m. 834 00:53:40,592 --> 00:53:42,932 The investor, traveling with a small entourage, 835 00:53:43,011 --> 00:53:46,811 was met at the private Galaxy Aviation by a black Escalade and a driver. 836 00:53:47,098 --> 00:53:49,228 Sources tell News Channel 5 that Kenneth Starr, 837 00:53:49,309 --> 00:53:53,189 now a top lawyer in Los Angeles, will arrive here tomorrow morning. 838 00:53:54,439 --> 00:53:58,859 [Fisten] The US attorney Acosta met with Jeffrey Epstein's lawyers. 839 00:53:59,819 --> 00:54:03,659 The next thing, not only was the indictment gone, 840 00:54:03,740 --> 00:54:06,120 the FBI case was stopped. 841 00:54:06,201 --> 00:54:08,451 So the FBI agents were shook up... 842 00:54:09,204 --> 00:54:14,084 very upset, and started voicing their opposition... 843 00:54:14,793 --> 00:54:16,213 to what had occurred. 844 00:54:17,420 --> 00:54:20,300 [Maria Farmer] The FBI agent, Nesbitt Kuyrkendall, 845 00:54:20,382 --> 00:54:22,012 I was so impressed by her. 846 00:54:22,092 --> 00:54:25,892 She was very dedicated to the women in Florida. 847 00:54:26,554 --> 00:54:29,984 She called me really upset one day, and she said, 848 00:54:30,058 --> 00:54:33,978 "Maria, I know you're hesitant about testifying because you're afraid, 849 00:54:34,312 --> 00:54:36,732 and I just want you to know I don't know if it'll even matter 850 00:54:36,815 --> 00:54:39,025 'cause things are really falling apart." 851 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:42,029 I contacted Kuyrkendall myself, and she was in tears. 852 00:54:42,112 --> 00:54:47,282 She was actually crying on the phone, in tears, that this happened. 853 00:54:47,617 --> 00:54:49,867 She felt so bad for these victims 854 00:54:49,953 --> 00:54:53,253 because she told these victims she's going to put this guy away. 855 00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:59,460 Nobody knows why US Attorney Acosta shut this case down. 856 00:55:00,964 --> 00:55:02,844 To me, that's bullshit. 70250

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