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Thank you for being here. Thank you for joining us. I'm Egypt Sherrod, and this

is part two of the Haves and the Have Nots final cast reunion. We're here at

Tyler Perry Studios.

Isn't this place amazing?

I mean, we're in the APL with the hardest working cast in television,

by the way. Tika Sumter, Crystal Fox, Tyler Lepley, Angela Robinson,

Renee Lawless, Peter Parrish.

Aaron O 'Connell and Davin Houston.

Sadly, John Snyder could not be here, but he will indeed be missed. But

is our final farewell. This is it, guys.

Sayonara. Oh, my goodness. Who's crying?

Pass the tissues.

So how about one more round of applause from the best fans in the world? Yeah.

Yes.

Now, her character.

Hannah Young was the last woman standing.

Did you? Oh, my goodness, that finale.

Ms. Crystal Fox.

I mean,

Crystal, what's it like to be here together today, everyone? I think it's a

moment we've been waiting for because we've had a phenomenal eight years,

seasons, but we have never fully gotten to say how appreciative we are to the

fans.

You recently tweeted this about the final half season.

Quote, let's ride this thing till the wheels fall off.

What are you going to miss the most?

My family. But my family is this family and it's this family.

I'm not very much into social media. But when we had to tweet, it was so fun

because I felt even more connected to you.

And so I feel like this is just an extended family. And I'm going to miss

that every week.

So much to talk about, but let's first take a look at Hannah's extraordinary

side and why.

You really love God.

I do.

You really hope to see him one day.

Yes.

And come back around here or around me ever again. And I promise you,

I'm going to put you on that trip to see him.

Sooner than you think.

Who else but you, Sister Crystal Fox, could have played that role?

God told me to stop praying for you. He told me. So he did this?

Leave me alone.

God took him. You took him with your lying self.

You took him. You did.

We all just love seeing Hannah go from being the crier's maid.

So does that mean I'm hired?

Yes. You can start right now.

Thank you very much.

Don't thank me yet.

You haven't met my family.

They're running their entire estate.

We love us some of that.

Hang on. Are you telling me that you have been made the executor of

estate? Every bit of it.

Now, what were you saying to me, Jim, about what I have or have not?

But the one moment I don't think any of us will ever forget is you singing,

there's a leak in this old building. Oh, my goodness. When you did that, you

were singing to Catherine Cryer when she was in the hospital.

I called up Tyler. I said, who knew Crystal could sing?

He said, told you. Well, this old building keeps on leaning and my soul

to move.

They're going to put me out of this house.

Crystal, you don't sing. You sang.

You got the voice of our ancestors down there in your throat.

That's where I went with that.

That was just, I mean, so much to just wow, right?

I think we all want to know what it felt like to take Jim Cryer out.

What did that feel like?

I don't want to say that it felt good. It felt necessary.

That's the best thing I can say because that kind of evil, it just kept going

and kept going. And he killed my child just without any kind of remorse. And he

had always been a threat to our lives. And so in that moment, he had to go.

It was necessary. How many takes did you request?

I don't request.

Any particular take? Let me tell you what. Tyler, if he likes it, he just

captures it. And he'll ask you, are you good with that? If you need another one,

he'll let you do it. What was funny to me was it was very few. So I thought, I

guess I ran over him well.

We do have a fan question for you. Roll it.

Hello. My name is Dakota from Baltimore, Maryland. My question is for the

legendary Miss Crystal Fox.

What has been your favorite moment of faith for Hannah?

And your favorite prayer that she prayed for.

Thank you.

I don't know if it was a prayer as much as it was a song choice.

When Benny was in the hospital, first of all, when you take on a role like this,

you realize you have the responsibility of what you bring into people's homes.

So my intention was always to bring you all and your stories into your home and

have a voice.

And my grandmother was a minister until she was 89 and she died at 99.

always went to a place of prayer, the darker the moment got.

And when he was in the hospital and there was the idea that he might die, I

asked Tyler if I could sing a song, and it was her favorite song, and that was,

this is my story, this is my song. And when he let me do it, the focus was so

clear that it's making my face tingle now, that it was a directed, specific,

purposeful song and prayer of...

Hope that I could endure whatever happened, but I wanted my child to get

Oh,

I

just want to be like Abraham I want to I want to but you got to help me I

Want you to heal

If you don't, I'll serve you anyway, God.

I'll serve you anyway.

That's one of my favorite ones.

I know we have someone in the audience who has a question specifically for you,

Crystal, as well. Sam?

It's great to be here today. Great to meet all of you, but Crystal Fox.

You have to understand, I've been married for 42 years.

Okay, don't get me in trouble.

This is your wife, right, Angela? This is my wife right here.

So I can ask this question with her blessing.

Okay.

Angela, can you stand up as well?

42 years right there.

That's beautiful.

What's the key to 42 years before we go any further?

42 years. He stays in the computer room a lot, and I'm in another room.

Yeah. But let me just say, 42 years of marriage, but on Tuesday nights,

it was Hannah.

It was Hannah.

He left me for Hannah every Tuesday.

Which leads me to my question for you.

Yes, sir.

I want to know, How much input do you have on your love interest for your next

project? And I would love to read for that role.

Mr.

Sam, Mr. Sam, you're a brave man. You must have a death wish with your wife

sitting right next to you.

Go ahead.

That's a good one.

Well, I'm nervous, Ms. Angela.

Okay.

Thank you for that. You did not get me in trouble with Ms. Angela.

But I will say this. Tyler actually did let me eventually read with the

characters that became my love interest on the show to feel the chemistry out.

So if Ms.

Angela says it's okay, next time that happens, we're going to reach out to

There's hope.

There's hope.

Listen, Tika, your actual mom, is here today, is that correct? Where is she?

She's right there in the back. Where are you, Mom? Oh, I should have known as

sharp as a knife.

What is Tika like in real life in comparison to Candace?

She's very caring.

She loves her family.

She's very caring of her four siblings.

She makes sure things are done. She is a boss.

But she's a good boss.

And she always makes sure that I'm taken care of no matter what.

I'll pay you later.

I'll be there to tooth collect it.

So, Ms. Janice, do you have a favorite scene of the whole show?

My favorite scene is her asking her mother, Crystal, for forgiveness.

Because as a child, as a mother.

You should always forgive your child, no matter what they do.

Please forgive me.

I can.

I can.

Every day I wake up and wonder if

you ever will.

Thank you, Ms. Janice.

Listen, we're going to take a break, but don't move. We'll be right back. We

have more to come when we come back.

And I have to say, you guys are incredible.

Like, these are tears of joy and love. Thank you for your support.

That was Miss Veronica the Ice Queen, torching the house where her be inside

not even blinking.

Welcome back to the Haves and the Have Nots final cast reunion on Own. I'm

Shirad. Angela.

Angela.

Yes, Egypt.

Well, I guess it's safe to say maybe we all have a little Veronica in us.

Yes, we do.

And you say that often.

Yes. You care to elaborate?

Yes, I think everyone has a little Veronica in them, and the only thing

separates them from one type of Veronica and another is good home training in

Jesus. So if you missed out on good home training in Jesus, you might be the one

with the lighter yourself one day.

Well, I'll say you were hands down like the best villainess ever, ever.

You said the thing that some of us may have wanted to say.

You did some of the things we would have never thought to do but got great ideas

from watching you.

But, I mean, just the spice that you added to the screen.

Now that Veronica is gone, which I thought... Veronica's gone? I didn't

No, but when we saw them shoot your character, I was like, no, she's coming

again. But now that she is gone...

What do you have to say about her?

Well, I don't know.

I don't know. We don't know.

But, you know, first of all, I just I want to say thank you. I want to say

you to you guys.

And, you know, I don't get to get very emotional on the show, but I'm pretty

much a crybaby in life. So I just really appreciate.

um your love and running into you and those of you who couldn't tell the

difference between veronica and angela i love you and i love those of you who

could and so i you know i want to say thank you i want to say thank you to

everybody on this stage i

have to say your craft and what you

bring is amazing

working with her and just what something so separate from her from who she is as

a person and i remember when your character was first changing you would

some of these lines go i don't even understand this but you played it like

exactly what was going on so just just

i have so much respect for you and have so loved working with you

And now, Angela, I understand you had the ultimate pleasure of working with

Oprah when she produced The Color Purple on Broadway.

Yes. Wow.

one of the main producers on the show. And we didn't find out until we had

started rehearsing and everything. And they had us all gather in rehearsal. And

they said, we want to introduce you to our latest producer.

And we all got together like we ready to go home, y 'all.

And here in walks Oprah. And it was a huge moment for us. It truly changed my

life because I had done three Broadway shows prior.

And they don't run sometimes.

So when Oprah watched it, I was like, ooh, this thing might run.

Well, here's what Oprah says about the ice queen.

There's a hurricane coming, and her name is Veronica.

And when this bitch hits, it destroys everything you've ever known.

Now, Veronica Harrington. Whoa.

So evil.

So cold.

She got her very own nickname, the Ice Queen, and no one could have played her

as well with as much of the devil in her as you have done, Angela.

You're wicked.

Yeah, I am.

Did you think I was going to get the maid to clean it up?

Enjoy cleaning.

We cannot count how many outrageous things Veronica did and said over the

Who is this? I don't know who the hell that is. From the looks of things, it

looks like somebody who needs a facial, a bath, and some antibiotics.

Ah, Veronica, why does everything have to be such a damn effort with you?

Because I'm a queen, and I require maintenance.

I certainly hope you've had fun playing her, because, wow, have you taken us on

a ride. Like the time when she told Jeffrey, who gave you the right to be a

homosexual? Well, who gave you that right? Who?

Veronica, this is ridiculous.

No, it isn't.

Jeffrey, you're being selfish.

Selfish? Yeah, this is all about you.

Mom, I'm just trying to tell you this. Shut up!

It was so hardened. It was so mean. It was, I don't know where you pull that up

from, but, oh, God, I still get chills thinking about that scene.

Because of Angela, Veronica will now go down as one of the most iconic villains

on TV.

Veronica?

That's my name.

I wear it well, don't I?

So, Angela, I hear you used to take issue with people calling Veronica

but not anymore?

Well, I still do a little bit, but I think for the first... Peter's looking

me.

I think for the first, I would say, six seasons, I would go to interviews and

people would say, oh, she's crazy, Veronica's crazy, and I would defend it,

would defend it, because I really feel that...

You know, men get to play villains all the time and they get called ruthless

they get called powerful and they get called evil, but rarely do they get

crazy. And so I thought when a woman steps up and she's just as evil and just

ruthless and just as powerful, you want to call her crazy? No, she know

everything she's doing.

So I didn't, I took issue with it. But then Tyler went some places.

After about season seven, I was doing an interview, and they said, she crazy. I

was like, yeah.

I was like, yeah, she might be a little, you know.

We're going to be right back with a whole lot more. We're getting it out.

getting the answers to all of your questions. A whole lot more of the haves

the have nots.

Saying goodbye to this moment is very difficult for me.

Welcome back to the Haves and the Have Nots final cast reunion. I'm Egypt

Sherrod. Wow.

Well, you kind of got me when I said, well, she died. And you were like, but

she? Maybe she had a body double come out in that black outfit.

And did Peter die in the explosion? I mean, there's so many questions.

Tyler's in the back right now writing a new show called Veronica.

Let's take another audience question, though. Where's Karen?

Oh, my Karen. Karen Greer.

Yes. Karen Greer.

Hello.

Huge fan, huge fan. My gosh, you have turned that role into something

and I agree. I don't think you're dead.

I think that's that maid that likes to dress like you that got killed. But

anyway, my question is, I've heard you do interviews, and you've said that you

had to actually audition a couple of times for this role.

You didn't get it the first time, and you thought perhaps you needed to...

Push it up a notch. Talk about that. Oh, thank you, Karen.

So I was in Atlanta doing a musical called Into the Woods, playing the

And the casting director and one of the producers from the studio had come to

see it.

And they invited me to come and audition for Meet the Browns and to have one

scene on Meet the Browns. And I thought I had hit the lottery. I was like, oh,

I'm going to do this scene. And I did not get that part. But a year and a half

later. was when I got the call to audition for Veronica.

And so the moral for anybody in here who has a dream or who's trying to do

something and who's been rejected a lot, just understand that that no is just

maybe not now.

It means next opportunity. I love that. So the half and a half nods turned out

to be...

So much better. And Veronica turned out to be a dream come true for me. Yeah,

God had something bigger planned for you. Look at that. Did you get backlash

all from people who just could not understand? That was my character.

This is me.

When people come up to me and say, I just love you, I get a little, like,

about her do you love?

Because I want to always be sure it's not her homophobia.

The gay community has been one of my most supportive.

In the very beginning, it was hard for me to consider being so hated, but what

tried to do was represent the stories of my friends.

And I knew so many people who had come out and who had so much resistance and

much rejection.

And so I felt like if I represented those people well and truthfully, that

would see themselves and they would say, that's not me. Like, I don't want to be

that. and maybe they will approach it differently if their children came out

them. So it was difficult being so hard, but at the same time I found it

necessary. And every season I came back wanting her to be nice, and one of our

hairstylists said to me, I don't know if this helps, but it took my mom 25 years

to accept me.

And so I know you want to be you want you guys to hug it out today.

But what's what you guys are doing is what happened in my life.

And so you're representing real life. And that's why we're so connected. And

was important.

It was important to play that out in this show. I think it's one of the

storylines.

that changed lives in the biggest way, really. I think it gave people courage.

It gave others compassion.

Sometimes also for people who may have felt the way Veronica felt, to see it

play out on TV made them realize, wow, I'm really not being a good...

person here you know so thank you thank you thank you for all that ugliness

before the show we pulled the audience to find out who they thought had the

shocking death during the season finale was it veronica getting double crossed

and gunned down or did she jim drowning candace in the bathtub my david and

jeffrey getting blown up by officer justin's brother tanner

Catherine getting strangled in prison. I didn't like that. I have feelings about

that one.

Wyatt overdosing.

And then Hannah running over Jim with her car.

Oh, wait a minute, but can we not forget?

My Benny, my baby, getting shot by the Malone.

Well, the result, when we come back, I know who I'm voting for.

Actors have a shelf life.

Black actors very rarely get an opportunity like this.

Do you understand what it's like to lose a child?

Remember?

I told you I had nothing to do with that.

Inadvertently, you did.

So are you telling me that you inadvertently had my son killed?

I don't forget anything, bitch.

We all know it takes a certain kind of actor to play a character that we also,

we love and we hate at the same time. And John did that.

I have a plan, but it requires me in a hotel room with another woman.

It always requires you to be in a room with a woman. Your wife is a cold

-blooded bitch.

Jill.

What the hell do you think I'm going to do?

I told you.

Even at his worst, we still wanted to see what Jim would do next, all the way

the very, very end.

Get out of my car!

Get out of here!

I hate all you crazy bitches!

Get out! Son of a bitch!

Snyder as the evil to the core.

Wasn't he just evil? Just mean?

Jim Crider.

Okay, now it is time to reveal the series finale's most shocking death

Who do you think it is, truly?

Yeah?

Well, according to the audience, roll the tape.

Now I know why they put me in here with you.

So I can kill your ass.

I had enjoyed every single solitary second of filming that thing.

I've always wanted to have a big dramatic death scene.

Like, you know, shoot him.

I'm coming, Elizabeth. Whatever, you know. I've always wanted to have this

scene. But that was actually a little too real for comfort. It's one thing

you get shot and you're like, you know. But to have the actual rope around your

neck was a whole different.

experience. But what do they say as actors, right? If you gotta die, die

I love the relationship between your character and Crystal's character. That

friendship. That was so endearing. I'm telling you.

I had an instant connection with her. And day one is many gloriously,

fantastically wonderful scenes that I've had the honor to play with the

beautiful Angela Robinson and everyone sitting in here.

To this date, my all -time favorite scene is the closet scene with Crystal

she comes about her breast cancer. And when they have that moment, and on the

first time on national television, this beautiful woman prayed over somebody.

Praise Jesus.

No one knows.

Not even your husband?

No.

Father God, I come before you right now on behalf of my sister, Catherine.

Lord Jesus, we ask you to look down right now, Lord God, and through your

we ask you to take the poison that is supposed to be healing and give it the

power that is your blood that is the true healing.

That was the connection that I think carried over with our characters for the

eight seasons. And I love her to the moon and back and all the stars around.

That's a good one.

We'll be right back.

More with the haves and have nots.

I just want to say thank you to all of you.

I love all of you.

Welcome back.

Okay, so there are fans and then there are stans. Those are the super fans.

Really, make some noise if you're a stan of the show.

I'm going to turn my feet in the air because I am a true stan of the show. So

just want to take a moment to thank you. This has been just such an incredible

opportunity and honor for me to be here with you guys, to laugh until I cried.

I'm a huge fan of the show, obviously, as I said, of Tyler Perry, of Oprah

Winfrey, and the work that you guys are all putting in.

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you. So before we go.

I'm going to go around one by one.

I want to know what is the hardest part for you of saying goodbye?

I think the hardest part is not knowing that we are going to be able to see each

other every single year that we've had in the relationships that we've, you

know, I've grown so much as a person because of you guys.

You are like family to me.

The fans that have stood by us since.

2013.

My TV mom.

So, thank you for hanging with us.

And thank all of you for welcoming me, myself, into the Haves and Have Nots

family.

Can I order last?

Everything he said, this is one of the finest company's studio

crew, behind the scenes people I have ever worked with in my life.

I'm going to forever wonder if my next project will ever be as fulfilling.

will ever be as joyful, will ever have such fan dedication, will ever have such

a camaraderie.

I keep praying that whatever the Lord has in plan for the rest of my life,

this will always be a part of it.

And I want to desperately work with each and every one of these people again.

And so saying goodbye to this moment is very difficult for me.

It's been the greatest journey.

the greatest experience, the greatest opportunity of my whole life.

Tough act to follow.

You know, when I first started out, I wasn't too sure of myself.

I had come from...

And just being in a really dark place, you know, back in Philly, I kind of

packed up, moved to L .A. And this was the first family that really accepted me

and what I was trying to do in life.

So you guys have supported us. You supported me.

I found I found my purpose through y 'all.

And it just it goes without saying that, you know, I wouldn't be here as a as a

man, as a as an actor, as an artist without.

your support and without your love that you show up every single Tuesday.

All my love goes out to Tyler Perry for taking a chance on me. My love to Oprah

Winfrey. And I just wanted to say from the bottom of my heart, man, I love each

and every one of y 'all. Y 'all gonna be the hardest thing to say goodbye to.

I love y 'all.

Love you.

Kuka?

You know, I think one of the things I'm gonna really miss is...

Coming into work and laying whatever burden I have down at the feet of

my friend.

And them picking me back up even when they don't know that something is really

wrong.

Or just

knowing that we really are in this up.

many ups the downs i'm just super grateful that god has brought every

person in on this stage into my life and um tyler perry obviously who

believed in all of us and has pushed us to dream bigger and dream more and

oprah winfrey for giving her the first drama on own a shot and um

And I have to say, I think you fans don't understand how it could be one

you say during the day that you don't know what's going on in our own lives.

Just the other day, somebody said something and I needed it. The

and the love.

And I have to say, you guys are incredible.

Like, these are tears of joy and love. Thank you for your support.

I'm a crybaby, and I'm really sensitive. So thank you, thank you, thank you. I

love you guys.

I think we need some tissues.

Can we get some?

Crystals.

Tissues.

Take your time.

Actors have a shelf life.

People don't quite get that.

Black actors very rarely get an opportunity like this.

Some people's careers go on. People nurture other artists, and they take

through an entire lifetime of a career. We don't get that. We don't get the

opportunities to act and grow and go on to better things.

You hope that you have an opportunity for that to happen.

But we know people who have an entire career, and it never happens.

So to be able to come in your homes as a maid and be the matriarch of a family,

I had such hope that what I would bring to you would mean and resonate with you.

And you all are the reason.

That any of us are famous or celebrities or whatever. And I never lose sight of

that. If it doesn't reach you, I have not served my purpose.

And you are the reason that I'm confident now. And I

have to say, Tyler gave me that as well. He believed in me. He made me

know he allowed me to trust myself.

So if I never do another thing, you've given me the greatest gift of anyone as

an actor. Thank you.

I will miss being in the presence of Tyler Perry every year.

There's something about coming out of that that left me totally drained and

totally motivated.

at the same time.

And I'll miss that.

I will miss you guys.

But mainly, I think, although I will be friends with everyone up here forever,

there's nothing like that personal encounter that you get in person

that you know you're going to get once a year.

So the thought of not having that

I think is what leaves me a bit emotional.

My mother passed away last month.

And this girl, she called me and she said, you doing all right? And I don't

remember what I said. The next day we were doing a viewing in New Jersey. She

lives in Atlanta.

And she called me and she said, I'm here.

I couldn't sleep if I stayed home, so I'm here.

Beautiful people that Tyler put together, and that's his gift.

He just knows how to do that.

He blessed us with his presence.

He blessed us with connecting us.

And I guess the best gift that we can give to him is to never lose that

and to always be.

Together, not just us, but you two.

To always be connected.

When I was offered the part, I was like, it's Tyler

Perry and Oprah Winfrey.

I said, if nothing else, this is going to be historic television.

And I want to be part of it.

And I didn't know I would get this.

Been blessed to be a working actor for 40 years.

And I've never had this on Miss Crystal's house.

House parties.

So much fun.

Tyler walked out barefoot, forgetting he left his shoes in the house.

I'm not a very social person.

It's weird.

I know, right?

Didn't think we were going to do this.

You kind of fall back on, I'll catch you next season.

That's it.

Love you all.

Love you all.

Wow, wow, wow.

What can be said that hasn't already been said?

I first want to just acknowledge

the people on the stage and just say thank you.

I don't know that I could have done this with a better set of genuine, just

real, caring people. When I got this role, I was just like, I don't know if I

can do this. I don't know how I can do this because it's something I've never

done before. I didn't know if I was enough. I didn't know if I could honor

And there were some days that I went to work scared.

unsure of myself.

And then I would see these people and I'd be like, I'm going to be just fine.

I'm safe.

So thank you.

I also have to thank Tyler, Tyler Perry, for taking a chance on me, for pulling

me off camera, stopping everything and saying, you got this. I know you got

this. I have to thank Oprah Winfrey for this opportunity.

I just want to say thank you to all of you.

And I love all of you.

Love you.

Thank you.

Love you.

Not a dry eye in sight.

Truth, not a dry eye.

And I can tell, you can tell, they're truly grateful, right?

Truly grateful for the ride, as we are.

So thank you to you. Thank you to Tyler Perry.

Thank you to Oprah. Thank you to the fan.

And as we say, our final goodbye audience, how about one last round of

for Tika Sumpter,

Crystal Fox, Tyler Nutley, Angela Robinson, Renee Lawless, Peter Paris,

Aaron O 'Connell, and Gavin Houston.

That's our show.

I'm Ita Chabad.

Goodbye.