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What do you got, Will?
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9 -1 -1. Female, maybe four years old.
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Severe respiratory distress.
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Asthmatic? Oh, no. She's got a hell of a
fever. 105 .6. Well, let's get her on
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exam one. Anyone with her? Her mother
should be right behind us. Hey, get an
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ambu bag and start the O2.
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One, two, three.
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Where's she? Where's Wendy? Where'd they
take her? Are you her mother?
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What are you doing with her?
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Where's Wendy? Listen, my name is Dr.
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Travis, and your daughter is right in
there. She's receiving emergency
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care, okay?
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I want to be with her. I know, I know.
Who's your attending physician?
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What? Your regular doctor.
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I don't know. They changed it.
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I think it was Grossman. Grossman?
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No, it was something like that. Did you
call him before you came in?
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No, I just called 911.
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There's not going to be any trouble, is
there?
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I mean, I have my insurance.
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See, here's the card.
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Triax MultiCare Incorporated.
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It's through my job. I know I'm covered.
Okay.
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Dr. Travis? Be right with you. Could I
have a word with you now?
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Ms. Pearson, you can bother me about
administrative paperwork later. Right
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I have a patient in respiratory
distress. You can't just go on.
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What? It's a 911 call. No attending
physician on record.
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What does that have to do with anything?
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She signed with an HMO.
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We need pre -authorization from them
before we can treat the child. We can't
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even go beyond emergency breathing care
without their approval.
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I'm the physician in charge of the ER,
right? I know, I know, but you have to
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make the call.
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I have to call them?
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Stop wasting time and make the call now.
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I tell you what, you get them on the
phone and I'll talk. Right now, a little
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girl needs my help.
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So your gunshot victim hasn't told you
anything yet?
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The doctors in ICU say you'll probably
never regain consciousness, but I've got
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to stick around just in case. In that
case, I'll buy you a cup of coffee. So I
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paged you. It has been more than two
hours since I called. Now, I've got a
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patient here. I'm sorry, sir. I've
already left a message on the voicemail.
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if you'll just be patient.
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No, no. I'm not going to wait. Now, you
put on one of your damn managed doctors
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now, or I will be calling every ten
minutes until I speak to one.
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What's wrong, Debbie?
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I've got a patient in there.
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A four -year -old girl. But Betty here
says that I cannot... Central
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administrative problem. It's been two
hours. The procedure is very clear. The
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patient is no longer in a life or death
situation.
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Let me be the judge of that.
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I'll have to owe you that coffee. Put it
in my ledger. What do you got? When she
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arrived, she was febrile and cyanotic.
We put her on O2 and bronchodilators.
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She was brought in at 11 .10? Yeah.
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What the hell with it?
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Bring her in, admit her from ER, and
start her on definitive treatment right
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away. Blood cultures, antibiotics, chest
x -ray. Dr. Sloan, I'm sorry. We can't
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do that. The patient is signed with
Triax Multi -Health, Inc. We have to
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permission to treat.
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Let's have a look at her.
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Well, her temperature's still over 103.
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Maybe she has a secondary infection.
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Could be another septic focus is going
into bronchospasm.
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Excuse me.
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She's my little girl.
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I'm her mother.
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Please, doctor, do something.
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Do something.
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I've got Dr. Holbein, the M .D. from
Triax Multihelf Inc.
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Let's see if we can clear this up.
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Yes, Dr. Holbein, this is Mark Sloan,
the community general.
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Dr. Sloan, M .D.? Yes.
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Why didn't the subscriber call her
primary care physician first?
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I don't know. Probably because her
little girl was turning blue and she was
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scared to do anything but dial 911.
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Well, in any case, the patient should be
at the Triax Multi -Health Contracted
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Facility. That would be Greenlawn
Hospital.
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Well, Doctor, she's not at Greenlawn.
She's in my ER.
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And we're going to admit her into
pediatrics and start a course of
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I'm afraid not.
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Hello?
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Ah, Mr. Turner.
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I'm afraid this little confusion is your
mistake.
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You know, you should have called your
primary care physician, Dr. Grossman.
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And he would have arranged for the
patient's admission to the proper
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But I didn't know.
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I was scared. I called 911.
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What I think you should do now is
correct your mistake.
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I don't understand.
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Do you have your car there at Community
General?
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Yes. Then I suggest you simply bring the
patient over to Greenlawn now.
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That way, everything will be back in the
proper order with the least trouble to
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everyone. What did you say?
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I beg your pardon? It's 20 miles across
town to Greenlawn. Now, the child was
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suffering acute respiratory distress two
hours ago.
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You want us to throw her in the backseat
of a car before we even know why?
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Frankly, I'm reluctant to authorize the
expense of an ambulance when the error
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is obviously that of the subscribers.
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Are you out of your mind? The
regulations are clear.
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A patient must be treated in the HMO
contracted facility unless there are
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legally binding, obvious, immediately
life -threatening circumstances.
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Doctor, I just told you. Simple
breathing difficulties that respond to
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treatment do not qualify.
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over from Greenlawn. It should take,
ooh, perhaps an hour.
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An hour? My God, man.
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I'm terribly sorry. I have another call.
If you wouldn't mind waiting, I'll get
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right back to you.
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Wait a minute. Thank you for calling
Triax Multi -Health Incorporated. Your
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is very important to us.
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Please stay on the line.
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Admit her.
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Dr. Snow. I'm not holding off treatment
any longer. I'll get back to Relia for
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pediatrics. The hospital directives are
very clear.
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With HMO patients, we must get
permission before undertaking any
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treatment. What do you want to do,
Betty? Wait an hour for their ambulance?
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She's having a seizure.
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Get into ICU.
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I'll get Vaccarelli.
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Let's roll her on her side. Take her
airway. Get that oxygen mask back on.
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an IV valium. Now. Vaccarelli, please
call ER immediately. Dr. Sloan, line
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Dr. Sloan, line two. Sloan.
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This is Dr.
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Arthur Holbein here again.
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I'm afraid the ambulance will be
slightly delayed.
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There is a backup at Greenlaw. Don't
worry. It'll arrive. The patient will be
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appropriately cared for at the proper
facility.
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Dr. Baccarelli. Dr. Baccarelli, call ER
immediately.
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Dr. Baccarelli.
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I don't know.
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I find that hard to believe. What
exactly don't you know?
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Those phone calls.
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Betty, when I was a young intern, if you
were sick, you were taken care of. If
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you had money, you paid. And if you
didn't, you were a charity case.
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I remember I served three, four years in
a free clinic for the poor.
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Now with the docs, it was a very poor
neighborhood.
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Mostly condos now.
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Do you remember how long someone had to
wait to be seen in a clinic like that?
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I do.
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I grew up in a very poor family.
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My father was a pants presser when he
could get to work.
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Health insurance.
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He couldn't afford an aspirin.
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I think, Dr. Sloan, your memories of
those days are a bit skewed.
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In those days, if you were poor, you
might not be treated at all.
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I remember my Aunt Sophie dying of
pneumonia all alone in her room.
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There's something to be said for today.
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Medicare, Medicaid, HMOs, managed care.
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They are a lot better than nothing.
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About 25 minutes after we got the little
girl into the ICU, she went into
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cardiac arrest.
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Stan Vagarelli did all he could, but,
uh... She died within 15 minutes.
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Anybody tell the mother?
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I did.
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Four hours since she came in here and
the ambulance from Greenlawn just
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Mark, there's no way of knowing if we
had admitted the child any sooner, if we
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could have saved her.
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We did the right thing. We had no
choice. We had to follow the protocol.
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Yeah.
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And our call was obviously very
important to them.
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We did everything we were authorized to
do.
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You won't have any real answers until
they do the post -mortem.
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I know we'll be vindicated.
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I think it was murder.
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Dr. Sloan?
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Here. Melvin Pinter, attorney at law.
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I got your name from Mrs. Andrea Turner.
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What are you doing in my house?
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I'm representing Mrs. Turner in a suit
for damage involving the death of her
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daughter, Wendy.
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I haven't heard about anything like
that.
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Nobody has.
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What I mean to say is the case hasn't
actually been filed yet, which is why I
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wanted to talk with you.
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I understand that you were present when
the child was brought into Community
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General Emergency Room. Not what you
brought in later.
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Close enough. The point is you took part
in telephone negotiations with Tri -X
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Multi -Health, the HMO.
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I spoke to someone over there, yes. An
Arthur Holbein, M .D.? That sounds
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Good. Well, what I'd like to do
informally is go over with you exactly
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happened before actually deposing you in
the case. Just exactly who are you
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suing? Oh, everybody.
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But not you, personally.
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Who?
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Tri -X Multi -Health Incorporated, of
course.
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The Turner's primary care physician
under the HMO, Dr.
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Arthur Holbein, and Community General
Hospital. I'm particularly interested in
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those in charge of the ER. Goodbye, Mr.
Fender.
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Dr. Sloan.
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A four -year -old child is dead.
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You know she died because of negligence,
malpractice, and greed.
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Which side are you on?
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Was he killed with an 8 -inch Phillips
screwdriver or not?
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You know, he could have been killed by a
long -range X -ray beam from a flying
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saucer, but I won't know until I can
complete my autopsy, which I can't do
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you hovering and pestering me. Come on,
Amanda, it was sticking out of his
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chest. I've got a witness and I've got
the weapon. What's the mystery?
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Amanda?
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I'm sorry, were you in the middle of
something?
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No, this gentleman was just looking for
a spot for his screwdriver.
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Don't ask.
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Oh.
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Listen, do you remember doing an autopsy
on a four -year -old girl about three
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weeks ago?
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Yeah, that was Wendy Turner.
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Right. Do you remember the post -mortem
findings?
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I believe that she died from
cardiopulmonary arrest due to
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and that was complicated by bacterial
pneumonia.
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I was thinking more of the time
question.
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Do you think further treatment, say,
two, three hours earlier would have
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her? What I mean is, was delay the cause
of death.
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In a general way, earlier treatment is
always best. I'd need to pull the file.
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It's tough to say what brought on the
cardiac arrest. There are always
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variables. Okay.
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All right, thanks.
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Dr. Cohn, report to administration.
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Dr. Cohn, please report to
administration.
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What was that all about?
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He keeps thinking about that kid's
death.
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I'd take him out to dinner Tuesday
night.
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You took him out to dinner? That was a
special occasion.
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Yeah, but he didn't eat a thing.
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Just kept asking himself if he could
have done more to save her.
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I wasn't much help.
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Neither was I.
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Look, I can pull that file and take
another look, but that's about it.
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So, what can I do for you, Harold?
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Hal. Just Hal.
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Uh, I think you said for me, Hal.
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Yes. Well, as a matter of fact, I was
just wondering.
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There's a bit of a rumor, you know, just
a wispy sort of thing.
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Somebody was looking for you, a certain
Melvin Pinter.
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Is Pinter suing Community General, I
mean, directly?
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You didn't actually say anything to
Pinter, did you?
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Not yet.
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Because, as a matter of fact, legal says
there's very little chance he can sue.
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And as a matter of fact, it wouldn't
even be a suit per se. Well, you know, a
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lot of these HMOs have a contractual bar
in their contract against court action.
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So most of the time, an arbitration is
the first and sometimes the only
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recourse. But Pinter couldn't actually
win. I mean, there's so many, you know.
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intangibles, variables, and I can't...
After all, we didn't do anything,
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right? Oh, that's right. We didn't do
anything. We just let that child lie
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in the ark.
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Mark, you provided emergency care and
you stabilized her. After that, any
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delay is the HMO's fault.
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Nearly. Four hours went by before
anything happened beyond initial
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therapy. Well, that's inexcusable. It's
inexcusable.
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If anybody asks me about this in court
or anyplace else, I've got to tell the
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truth. Of course.
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Just be careful.
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That's all.
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You know, we have certain interests of
our own in this, right?
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I don't understand.
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The HMO doesn't own us. Why do we have
to do what they say?
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The HMO may not own us, Mark.
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But HMO -approved doctors send us
patients.
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They send us money that we badly need.
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I mean, look, if they continue to like
us and send us cases, we can pay
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for what? Research projects? We can pay
for experimental services, teaching, my
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salary, your salary. It can't be so bad
that we let them tell us what to do.
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The old days of Norman Rockwell -type
family doctors with charity
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clinics and even federal payments like
Medicare and Medicaid. It just wasn't
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working. Something had to happen to
control costs.
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What about the patient, Al?
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Mark, Mark.
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been looking into this Pinter. I don't
like the way he does things.
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Please, don't... don't talk to him
anymore.
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Okay?
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Dr.
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Sloan. Hi, auntie. Something wrong?
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I need a minute.
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In private.
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She's in her 40s, Lena Rizzoli, in room
114.
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She was admitted this morning for a
routine removal of lipoma on her back.
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She was admitted for a fatty tumor
removal?
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I thought that was all outpatient these
days.
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Well, it would be, but this one's too
deep for drive -through surgery, and it
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interferes with her arm movement, a lot
of pain. She was admitted for two days.
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I wish you'd speak to her.
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Why? Well, the routine admissions blood
test came up from the lab. Now, it could
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be severe anemia, but when I was getting
her settled, she was feeling very
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faint. It was abdominal pain.
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The admitting doctor came in. Well,
naturally, I asked him about it. He told
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to forget it.
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You know him? No. His name is Gould.
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Leonard Gould.
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He really snapped at me. He told me that
the patient was fine and everything was
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under control.
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Implied that I should know my place.
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I see.
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Mark, you know, I put in a lot of time
and the...
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Outpatient cancer service.
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I had that lumpectomy myself five years
ago.
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I remember.
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Is Gould still here?
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No.
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You didn't tell him you were going to
talk to me or anyone else, did you? No,
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no. You know you could get fired.
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It doesn't matter.
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The woman needs our help.
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You know, I wouldn't ask anybody else.
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I wouldn't say yes to anybody else
either.
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Well, let's see.
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It must have been almost a year ago.
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I just felt, I don't know, completely
blah.
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Did you call a doctor then? My insurance
company signed up with LifeSuits
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Incorporated five years ago.
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That's the HMO.
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And you were complaining of?
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I'd feel weak.
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Then I'd feel faint.
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I actually passed out a few times.
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I lost a lot of weight and...
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I had this pain in my stomach.
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Did you report that to the doctor?
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I couldn't get an appointment with Dr.
Gold for almost six weeks.
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The people at the LifeSys Inc. walking
clinic gave me pills.
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They said I had psychosomatic arthritis
brought on by tension and depression
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over my recent divorce.
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They prescribed an antidepressant and
iron supplements.
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Standard procedure.
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And Dr. Gould agreed.
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He said my anemia was improved.
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But I just didn't feel well.
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So I called people at the HMO about a
specialist.
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But they kept sending me back to my
primary care physician.
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The gatekeeper.
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Yes.
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That's how they called Dr. Gould. The
gatekeeper.
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So these problems continued, huh? I
asked him if I shouldn't have some other
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test. I don't know what they called
them.
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MRIs, CAT scans.
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But he said they were unnecessary.
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So for six months, I was on iron
supplements and Prozac.
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And now this thing.
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This thing on my back, the lipoma, grew.
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And really hurt.
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And that's what I'm here for.
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I see.
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Mr. Zoli, have you ever had a mammogram?
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As a matter of fact, I asked about that
as well.
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But Dr. Gould said it was HMO policy
that it was unnecessary for a woman
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the age of 45.
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With all those presenting symptoms, it's
hard to understand how a doctor could
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treat someone for that long and not
order any further tests.
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Capitation.
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You're talking about Rizzoli, Nancy's
patient?
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It's okay. I told her.
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What does capitation have to do with
Lena Rizzoli?
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LifeSys, Inc. is like other HMOs.
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They pay doctors so much per month, per
patient, $15, $20 per head.
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Capitation.
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If the doctor orders tests, medication,
anything over the $20 that comes out of
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his own pocket.
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To stop doctors from doing unnecessary
procedures.
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That's the theory.
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It sounds like rationing a medical care
to me.
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Point is, anyone who stays well is a
profit.
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Anyone who requires treatment is a loss.
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And further tests on Lena Rizzoli would
definitely be a loss.
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How could a doctor deny care simply
because of a few dollars profit or loss?
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I love you, Dr. Sloan. You are a sweet
breath of innocence in a bottom -line
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world.
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Some HMOs offer big bonuses to doctors
who have a reputation of keeping the
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down.
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You've heard of the gag rules.
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A doctor is prohibited from even
mentioning to a patient any treatment
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HMOs won't authorize.
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I thought the state and federal
regulations pretty well took care of
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Technically. Is there any chance that
Gould can still order those tests? I
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she is his patient.
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I don't think so. When I suggested it,
he blew up. He pointed out that an RN is
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not in a position to lecture an MD.
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Threatened me with strong disciplinary
action.
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But she needs those tests.
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The protocol is clear.
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Permission for any procedure has to come
from the primary care physician.
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And that means LifeSys, Inc.
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What are we going to do?
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We'll do exactly what we did in the case
of Wendy Turner.
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And if Lena Rizzoli dies, that'll be
murder, too.
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Not this time.
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I want to know who's responsible for
this.
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I am.
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Do you realize what you've done?
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There is no excuse for this kind of
unauthorized activity.
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You're going to get community general in
deep, deep trouble. We've already heard
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from the legal department of LifeSys,
Inc. You have opened us to all kinds of
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charges of financial irresponsibility.
Why did you do this?
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Because I'm a doctor, Hal.
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I swear by Apollo and Aesculapius, first
do no harm to Hippocratic Oath. You
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remember that?
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Don't patronize me, Mark.
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If you were anybody else, I would have
you fired.
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I demand you get Sloan in here right
now. Already done, Doctor.
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You may be Chief of Internal Medicine,
Sloan, but you've overstepped your
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authority.
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Ordering tests on my patient? Tests you
should have ordered yourself.
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I don't have to admit my patients here,
you know. I can always take them to...
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To another HMO facility.
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Well, you are the gatekeeper after all.
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Oh, so that's what this is all about,
huh? You think this is about HMO
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procedure, do you? Well, you're wrong.
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This is bottom line doctor -to -doctor
medical ethics.
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Mrs. Rizzoli is admitted for routine
minor surgery, a lipoma excision, and
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you and Community General Hospital move
in with the obvious motivation of
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running up enormous bills by a lot of
unnecessary procedures.
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is the grossest kind of ethical lapse,
Dr. Gould. I am sure that we can settle
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this without any kind of... What, you're
going to let him get away with this?
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Because I'm not.
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We'll just see what the county medical
society and the state licensing board
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will do.
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Got anything to say, Sloan?
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You tell me, what excuse can you make?
What possible justification can you
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Microcytic anemia.
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Positive occult blood in the stool.
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Mark, TEA elevation 65 .8.
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Excuse me, what the hell is going on
here?
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The results of the test on Lena are so
late. The endoscopic report shows her
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without question advanced colon cancer.
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The pathology report in the biopsy makes
it very clear that cancer has been
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developing for at least eight months,
widespread beyond the colon.
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Had the symptoms, the continuous anemia,
the weakness, the unexplained weight
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loss, pain in the abdomen, been
interpreted to call for tests, when she
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it, the early stages could have been
spotted, and the prognosis would have
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a lot different at this point. As it is,
Cascan shows widespread metastases to
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the liver.
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We'll have to call in an oncologist.
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You know Malcolm McAuliffe?
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Good man.
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Probably call for cryotherapy or a
possible removal of the lesions.
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Neither one is very successful very
often. Of course, chemotherapy.
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I, um... Excuse me, please. I think I
should go downstairs and see my...
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Mrs. Rizzoli.
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You think this started eight months
back?
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Well, the natural history of colon
cancer suggests it's been at least that
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Eight months.
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How long has she got?
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Well, I have no specialist help. Six
months a year.
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Well, talk to McAuliffe.
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See what you can do for her.
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Six months to a year of chemotherapy.
You think Life Cis Inc. is going to pay
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for that one?
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It's all right.
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You'll be okay now.
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It's the chemo. There's always some
nausea.
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Three days.
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She's under pretty heavy sedation.
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Dr. Slott. Yes.
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How are you feeling? Any better?
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I thought it was Dr. Gould.
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He came to see me.
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I actually sort of laughed.
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I was thinking, where were you eight
months ago?
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It might have done some good.
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Dr. McCullough did everything that
should be done.
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I know.
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Dr. Gould said he was sorry.
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He apologized.
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I didn't have the strength to feel
anything particular.
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I told him I... I forgave him.
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Isn't that silly?
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Forgave him?
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What difference does it make?
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Hi. We've got some company.
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Dr. Leonard Gould.
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I didn't see a car out there. He came up
from the beach about an hour ago.
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I think he's a little bombed.
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He said he wouldn't leave until you got
here, so I left him in the house with
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his bottle.
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Well,
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you better make some coffee.
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High octane. All right.
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You're back from the hospital.
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Mm -hmm.
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How's the patient doing?
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Oh, you know, standard reaction to
chemo, nausea, that kind of thing.
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I haven't been there for ten days. I
transferred the case over to Malcolm
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McAuliffe. Yes, I know.
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00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:22,620
Did you know that a suit has been filed
by Melvin Pinter, counselor -at -law
480
00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:28,080
against Life, CIS, Inc., HMO, and
Leonard David Gould, M .D.?
481
00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:32,340
For five million dollars damages.
482
00:29:34,540 --> 00:29:37,480
I will drink to life, sis. Ink.
483
00:29:39,260 --> 00:29:42,360
Of course they won't get five mil.
484
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,720
Judges tend to throw out huge jury
awards.
485
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,840
Have to settle for maybe 700 thou.
486
00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:55,900
On the other hand, my own malpractice
insurance has been cancelled.
487
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,740
What I can do next in...
488
00:29:59,219 --> 00:30:00,740
Medicine is an interesting question.
489
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:08,260
Doctor, I'm not sure you should be
talking to me. Oh, I think I should talk
490
00:30:08,260 --> 00:30:09,260
you. I think I have to.
491
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:17,940
There's nothing I can do. I mean, the
malpractice action is out of my control.
492
00:30:18,060 --> 00:30:20,920
It's out of my control, for God's sake.
493
00:30:22,060 --> 00:30:23,480
But you can at least listen.
494
00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:25,160
All right, all right.
495
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:33,360
The implication, The accusation is to
pile up nickels and dimes out of my per
496
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,400
capita HMO payment. You know about that.
I know about capitation.
497
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:42,300
All right. To make an extra buck here
and there, they say I purposely withheld
498
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:43,840
treatment to the sick.
499
00:30:44,060 --> 00:30:45,060
That isn't true.
500
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:55,740
I think... I mean, take...
501
00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:57,900
Take managed care.
502
00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,360
And I did.
503
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,780
You have to look at the social gains,
the economic necessity.
504
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,160
See, the point is, without it, there's
waste, terrible waste.
505
00:31:10,820 --> 00:31:15,020
Now, in the old days, unnecessary
treatment was the way a lot of doctors
506
00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:15,959
their money, right?
507
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,260
Right. Well, probably.
508
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,320
In some cases, a few of those. Oh,
you're romantic, Dr. Sloan. You know
509
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,000
true. We have to control costs, make
sure...
510
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:30,660
Nobody is misusing our resources.
Otherwise, the world's best health care
511
00:31:30,660 --> 00:31:31,660
will destroy itself.
512
00:31:32,180 --> 00:31:36,240
Doctor, past abuses are no justification
for inexcusable actions in the present.
513
00:31:37,380 --> 00:31:41,000
Don't you think this is enough for now?
No, no, no. You've got to understand.
514
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:46,380
I cannot. I will not believe that a
payment system geared to keeping
515
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:48,580
down would have influenced my medical
judgment.
516
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,000
I refuse to believe that I would let
myself be used to increase some...
517
00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:55,570
Corporate profit margin.
518
00:31:56,050 --> 00:31:59,770
Doctor, I don't pretend to understand
your motivations, financially or
519
00:31:59,770 --> 00:32:03,770
psychologically or any other way. All I
know is the treatment was denied.
520
00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:06,350
Lena Rizzoli has six months to a year.
521
00:32:06,650 --> 00:32:13,390
I must not admit that even unconsciously
my concern for my income would make me
522
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:17,290
responsible for Lena Rizzoli's death.
You see that, don't you?
523
00:32:17,570 --> 00:32:21,850
I see advanced colon cancer. I see
metastases to the liver.
524
00:32:22,090 --> 00:32:23,830
You're not listening. You do understand.
525
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,140
I mean, you've got to believe me. You've
got to believe me.
526
00:32:26,380 --> 00:32:29,380
I'm not guilty of that. I'll take them
all. Come on.
527
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,780
You've got to believe me.
528
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,580
Oh, please, please.
529
00:32:34,340 --> 00:32:36,940
My God, you're a doctor, too.
530
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,060
Okay, continue the four tasks.
531
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,280
One gram.
532
00:32:59,260 --> 00:33:00,260
Q8H. Mark.
533
00:33:00,660 --> 00:33:02,560
I didn't know you were working today.
534
00:33:03,020 --> 00:33:04,640
Actually, I came by to say goodbye.
535
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,280
I've been fired.
536
00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:12,040
Nancy, you knew you were risking your
job when you questioned Gould's
537
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,720
and came to me. That's only part of it.
538
00:33:13,940 --> 00:33:16,720
I think they also found out I'm the one
that tipped off Melvin Pinter.
539
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,020
It's a good thing they can only fire me
once.
540
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,160
Let me talk to Mr. Lomax. No, please.
There's no point.
541
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,960
In fact, they're offering me a reference
and six months' severance pay.
542
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,500
They're buying you off. Oh, I'll let
them.
543
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,180
I don't regret what I did, but they
might.
544
00:33:32,620 --> 00:33:34,560
I got an offer to teach in a nursing
school.
545
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:39,200
I like the idea of unleashing a few
Nancy Rushes on the Lomaxes of this
546
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,480
Oh, we're going to miss you.
547
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:45,840
I'll miss you.
548
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,720
I'm sorry, Mr. Lomax. I tried to stop
him.
549
00:34:07,580 --> 00:34:09,300
Why are you firing Nancy Rush?
550
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:11,960
She broke protocol.
551
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:13,699
Come on, Hal.
552
00:34:13,940 --> 00:34:18,940
On top of which, Lex's Inc. became aware
that she was instrumental in Melvin
553
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:21,719
Pinter's malpractice suit against them.
554
00:34:22,179 --> 00:34:25,500
They made it clear she had to go. Why?
Because they wouldn't like us anymore?
555
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,320
You know, you are not sitting in this
chair, Mark. There are some very large
556
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,580
issues involved here.
557
00:34:31,340 --> 00:34:32,480
For one thing...
558
00:34:33,230 --> 00:34:38,290
Payment on six months to one year of
chemotherapy and other treatments in the
559
00:34:38,290 --> 00:34:39,208
Rizzoli case?
560
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:43,489
Probably in the neighborhood of $250
,000 or more.
561
00:34:43,889 --> 00:34:46,230
And I'm not even sure that Lycis will
pay.
562
00:34:46,489 --> 00:34:48,090
Well, they won't like it even if they
do.
563
00:34:48,530 --> 00:34:51,330
You know what the HMOs say, a quick
death is a cheap death.
564
00:34:51,830 --> 00:34:55,050
There are legitimate financial issues
here, Mark.
565
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:01,820
20 % of our patients are admitted here
and paid for by LifeSys, Inc. and other
566
00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:02,900
HMOs like them.
567
00:35:03,220 --> 00:35:07,800
This is a fair executive decision
because, on balance, Community General
568
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,980
their... their goodwill.
569
00:35:13,340 --> 00:35:20,160
Against that, one RN... One RN who has
the integrity to put the patients first.
570
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,040
It seems to me the Community General
needs her, too.
571
00:35:23,900 --> 00:35:25,120
Lorraine, would you do me a favor?
572
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,520
Call... Melvin, Pinter, please.
573
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,760
Yes, tell him I'd like to discuss with
him a malpractice suit he has.
574
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:35,800
Wendy Turner.
575
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,700
You know, they sent out to the farmer's
market for the locks.
576
00:35:52,940 --> 00:35:53,759
No, thanks.
577
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,760
Very fancy offer.
578
00:35:55,490 --> 00:35:56,490
What, this isn't yours?
579
00:35:57,490 --> 00:35:59,310
They won't even let me into the men's
room here.
580
00:35:59,510 --> 00:36:01,610
Even the janitor has a degree from
Harvard Law.
581
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:04,850
Now, they just lend out their boardrooms
for fancy arbitrations.
582
00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:06,290
Like today.
583
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:09,030
That's right. For stage and non -binding
arbitration.
584
00:36:09,350 --> 00:36:10,350
You mean there's no judge?
585
00:36:10,570 --> 00:36:11,570
An arbitrator.
586
00:36:12,570 --> 00:36:16,290
Well, actually, he's a retired judge.
Teaches legal ethics at UCLA Law.
587
00:36:16,650 --> 00:36:18,770
Don't think I'll find too friendly an
ear there.
588
00:36:19,110 --> 00:36:20,110
Why not?
589
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,770
This case he sat on, he threw out five
out of six charges.
590
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,920
Then cut the amount of damages down from
one million to a piddling 100 ,000.
591
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:32,060
Point is, for a major insurance company
or HMO to get out from under for a lousy
592
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:35,260
100 ,000, it's like finding a bargain at
a yard sale.
593
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:36,920
How much are you asking?
594
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,480
An excess of three and a half million
dollars.
595
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,140
Stay away from the onions.
596
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:54,339
Morning, Harold.
597
00:36:54,340 --> 00:36:55,340
It's Harold.
598
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:01,960
And I really don't understand your
aiding and abetting this hijacking
599
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Pinter, right?
600
00:37:03,180 --> 00:37:07,180
So far, I haven't noticed he's been
responsible for anybody's death. Now,
601
00:37:07,340 --> 00:37:10,580
actually, in a way, it's not too late.
602
00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:11,780
For what?
603
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:18,880
Well, I know you will want to consider
your ongoing relationship with
604
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,920
Community General. That is, when you
testify.
605
00:37:23,270 --> 00:37:29,170
A little discretion, one way or the
other, would make a big difference to
606
00:37:29,170 --> 00:37:32,810
Community General and to you.
607
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:40,310
Now, Dr. Travis, I just want to get this
clear.
608
00:37:40,910 --> 00:37:45,490
During the time you had the patient in
the emergency room, Wendy Turner, she
609
00:37:45,490 --> 00:37:48,910
receiving only standard inhalation
therapy, which means this was not
610
00:37:48,910 --> 00:37:50,450
a life -threatening emergency situation?
611
00:37:51,850 --> 00:37:54,570
Well, yes, but then she started
seizures.
612
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:59,270
But that was after the telephone
conversation with Triax MultiHealth HMO?
613
00:37:59,630 --> 00:38:01,010
Yeah, I guess so, yes.
614
00:38:01,350 --> 00:38:02,350
I see.
615
00:38:03,090 --> 00:38:04,090
That's all the questions.
616
00:38:05,690 --> 00:38:08,110
Any further cross -examination for this
witness?
617
00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:10,050
Nay, Your Honor.
618
00:38:12,090 --> 00:38:14,710
Mr. Pinter, you're next, if you please.
619
00:38:14,950 --> 00:38:16,470
Thank you, Your Honor. Dr.
620
00:38:16,770 --> 00:38:17,770
Mark Sloan.
621
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:19,530
Dr. Mark Sloan.
622
00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:30,020
Your call is very important to us.
Please stay on the line for the next
623
00:38:30,020 --> 00:38:31,020
available operator.
624
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,180
Dr. Sloan, do you recall Dr. Holbein's
suggestion on behalf of Triax Multi
625
00:38:36,180 --> 00:38:40,880
-Health Incorporated that Mrs. Andrea
Turner should take her child in her car
626
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,000
miles across town to the Greenlawn
Hospital?
627
00:38:43,240 --> 00:38:46,800
The only place that child should have
been taken was our pediatrics unit.
628
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:51,940
But as soon as the seizures were noted,
Dr. Sloan, full emergency care was
629
00:38:51,940 --> 00:38:52,980
immediately instituted.
630
00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:57,310
Yes, but that might not have been
necessary if we hadn't been kept waiting
631
00:38:57,310 --> 00:39:02,230
hours for the HMO to give us permission
to treat her. But isn't it a fact that
632
00:39:02,230 --> 00:39:06,590
the post -mortem shows no definitive
indication that delay was involved in
633
00:39:06,590 --> 00:39:07,590
cause of death?
634
00:39:08,370 --> 00:39:12,370
Common medical practice in the handling
of emergency situations calls for the
635
00:39:12,370 --> 00:39:13,770
quickest possible treatment.
636
00:39:14,290 --> 00:39:15,850
Not pointless delays.
637
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:21,090
Any further cross -examination for Dr.
Sloan?
638
00:39:21,310 --> 00:39:22,490
No, Your Honor. No.
639
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,800
Dr. Sloan, you're excused.
640
00:39:25,220 --> 00:39:27,560
Your Honor, I wonder if I might say just
a few words.
641
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:29,980
I object, Your Honor. Your Honor, Your
Honor, please.
642
00:39:30,660 --> 00:39:33,800
Please, Your Honor, this is not a forum
for personal opinion.
643
00:39:34,180 --> 00:39:35,098
No, it's not.
644
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:36,120
It's an arbitration.
645
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:37,700
My arbitration.
646
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,520
And I'll decide who talks and who
doesn't.
647
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,720
Now, Dr. Sloan, you've been sitting in
that chair for the past hour, and it
648
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,640
seems like you've been a little bit
uneasy.
649
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,420
And I, for one, would like to know why.
650
00:39:53,610 --> 00:39:54,610
Thank you.
651
00:39:57,370 --> 00:40:03,930
I'm aware that the post -mortem is
indeterminate as to the precise
652
00:40:03,930 --> 00:40:05,770
time in this child's death.
653
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:12,590
Speaking from the point of view of the
doctor, I only remember one thing.
654
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:15,510
The clock on the ER wall.
655
00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:22,570
It jumped convulsively every second.
656
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:27,030
Jump. Jump.
657
00:40:28,090 --> 00:40:29,090
Jump.
658
00:40:30,870 --> 00:40:35,590
I can remember the weight of the
wristwatch every time I looked at it.
659
00:40:38,010 --> 00:40:41,750
It was four hours before that ambulance
would arrive from Greenlawn.
660
00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:47,570
For that, my profession has no excuse.
661
00:40:50,810 --> 00:40:52,230
The key to...
662
00:40:53,130 --> 00:40:58,650
The proper delivery of medical services
has only to do with the patient's needs.
663
00:40:59,310 --> 00:41:00,630
The patient's needs.
664
00:41:02,070 --> 00:41:09,070
The profits of a corporation, the rise
and fall of its stock in the market, all
665
00:41:09,070 --> 00:41:13,630
of the vast economic problems which have
erupted out of the mountain of demands
666
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:20,570
and expectations, they're all secondary
to the actions of the doctor,
667
00:41:20,670 --> 00:41:22,350
the nurse.
668
00:41:22,810 --> 00:41:23,810
The clinic.
669
00:41:24,070 --> 00:41:25,110
The hospital.
670
00:41:25,970 --> 00:41:29,150
And most important to those in danger.
671
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:30,670
In pain.
672
00:41:31,470 --> 00:41:32,570
At risk.
673
00:41:33,710 --> 00:41:37,430
No hospital is the equivalent of a
factory.
674
00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:39,770
Or a bank.
675
00:41:41,170 --> 00:41:42,390
Or a supermarket.
676
00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:50,810
I'm no expert on who's legally
responsible here. You're lawyers. It's
677
00:41:50,810 --> 00:41:51,810
ballgame.
678
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,720
The minutes that Dr.
679
00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:01,080
Travis and I spent on the telephone
arguing with a computer playing elevator
680
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:07,040
music, arguing business regulations as
to who had claimed that the patient's
681
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,680
billing and control.
682
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:14,240
All that was a violation of my oath.
683
00:42:15,820 --> 00:42:18,180
Those minutes belonged to that little
girl.
684
00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:21,260
Then tell me, Dr. Sloan.
685
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Who is responsible for Wendy Turner's
death?
686
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,320
The HMO.
687
00:42:30,220 --> 00:42:31,980
Triax Multi -Health, Inc.
688
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,300
The doctor in their office.
689
00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:40,800
The administrative regulations enforced
at Community General Hospital.
690
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,360
And me.
691
00:43:00,330 --> 00:43:01,330
Well, I have some news.
692
00:43:02,650 --> 00:43:04,170
The ruling came down this morning.
693
00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:05,850
How'd it go?
694
00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:09,830
Told you I was afraid of Judge Kesey.
695
00:43:10,510 --> 00:43:13,750
First off, the claims against the
hospital have been thrown out. That
696
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:15,310
make you happy, Dr. Sloan. Not very.
697
00:43:15,870 --> 00:43:17,630
Second, the judge is proposing a
settlement.
698
00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:18,948
What kind?
699
00:43:18,950 --> 00:43:23,270
The companies, the insurance, and the
HMOs have agreed to pay, but they don't
700
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:25,050
have to accept any blame for any
wrongdoing.
701
00:43:26,010 --> 00:43:27,010
They're guilty of nothing.
702
00:43:28,540 --> 00:43:30,440
Exactly how much is this settlement?
703
00:43:32,020 --> 00:43:33,020
$200 ,000.
704
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,220
How does Mrs. Turner feel about it?
705
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:36,740
She's not very happy.
706
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,840
Not because of the money. I mean, that
doesn't really matter to her.
707
00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:43,560
But Triax Multi -Health Incorporated
gets off without acknowledging their
708
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:44,560
in Wendy's death.
709
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:46,160
So you think they won? Is that it?
710
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,680
In a way.
711
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,820
Remember what I told you. To a billion
-dollar corporation, a few hundred grand
712
00:43:51,820 --> 00:43:55,200
is a cheap insurance premium to let them
go on just the way they did before.
713
00:43:58,350 --> 00:44:01,490
How about you, Dr. Sloan? Have you got
any backlash from the hospital because
714
00:44:01,490 --> 00:44:02,209
your testimony?
715
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:03,210
Oh, no, not yet.
716
00:44:03,630 --> 00:44:06,550
It's much easier to get rid of a
registered nurse who doesn't have a term
717
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:07,550
contract.
718
00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:11,490
Although Lomax has stopped asking me to
call him Hal.
719
00:44:13,210 --> 00:44:14,210
You all right, Dad?
720
00:44:14,650 --> 00:44:15,650
Yeah, I'm fine.
721
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:16,690
At least it's over.
722
00:44:17,090 --> 00:44:18,090
This case.
723
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But there'll be others.
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Lena Rizzoli.
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Now, that one should be easy.
726
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Of course, I'll...
727
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Probably have to subpoena you, Dr.
Sloan.
728
00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,540
But at least the hospital's in the
clear.
729
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,260
That's great for the lawyers and the
hospitals, but what about the people who
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practice medicine?
731
00:44:36,380 --> 00:44:39,880
I mean, what's the point of becoming a
doctor if I can't be a doctor? Some
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corporation is going to tell me who I
can treat and how to treat them.
733
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:49,320
Jesse, there's only one rule that
applies to what we do, and it hasn't
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in the last 2 ,000 years, no matter how
much the practice of medicine has.
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First, do no harm.
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Even though they're not making it easy
for us.
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