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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,294 --> 00:00:06,589 [overlapping chatter] 2 00:00:06,673 --> 00:00:07,966 โ€ That way he's standing, 3 00:00:08,049 --> 00:00:09,689 I mean, it looks like it's higher, right? 4 00:00:09,718 --> 00:00:12,721 Because you do that from the second rope. 5 00:00:12,846 --> 00:00:14,014 Boom! 6 00:00:14,139 --> 00:00:19,269 This job to me is the greatest life that I could ever live. 7 00:00:19,352 --> 00:00:22,814 For years people told me I was too small, 8 00:00:22,897 --> 00:00:24,774 that I couldn't do this and I couldn't do that 9 00:00:24,858 --> 00:00:26,651 and I wasn't going to make it. 10 00:00:26,776 --> 00:00:28,987 And I've shoved it in everybody's face. 11 00:00:29,112 --> 00:00:30,321 No timeโ€outs in this, man. 12 00:00:30,405 --> 00:00:35,076 I realize I can't be popular with everybody all the time. 13 00:00:35,201 --> 00:00:38,663 So in the meantime, I'm going to be popular with me, 14 00:00:38,788 --> 00:00:40,206 and I'm going to be the best. 15 00:00:40,331 --> 00:00:43,960 โ€ There are definitely two lives of Shawn Michaels. 16 00:00:44,044 --> 00:00:46,671 You know, there's who he was before... 17 00:00:46,796 --> 00:00:49,215 โ€ You will not ever in your lives 18 00:00:49,340 --> 00:00:51,885 see a man more charismatic, 19 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:55,013 more flamboyant, or more talented 20 00:00:55,138 --> 00:00:57,724 than the Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels. 21 00:00:57,807 --> 00:01:03,897 โ€ The greatest inโ€ring performer of all time. 22 00:01:03,980 --> 00:01:06,316 Being a prick comes natural to Shawn. 23 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:08,068 It did. He was a dick. 24 00:01:08,193 --> 00:01:11,821 โ€ The showstopper, the headliner, the main event. 25 00:01:11,946 --> 00:01:13,823 โ€ There was so much bad blood between us, 26 00:01:13,907 --> 00:01:17,869 and I was always like, "If I see him, I'll kill him." 27 00:01:17,994 --> 00:01:20,663 I had so much anger about it. 28 00:01:20,705 --> 00:01:24,918 โ€ Nobody steals my spotlight. I want it all. 29 00:01:25,001 --> 00:01:26,878 โ€ Shawn Michaels could do absolutely anything, 30 00:01:26,961 --> 00:01:29,631 any style to perfection with anyone. 31 00:01:29,756 --> 00:01:32,634 When the bell rings, no one is as good as Shawn. 32 00:01:32,675 --> 00:01:34,594 โ€ I will give you a show 33 00:01:34,677 --> 00:01:37,347 like you have never ever seen before. 34 00:01:37,472 --> 00:01:40,642 Why? Because I can. 35 00:01:40,767 --> 00:01:44,020 โ€ The only man to win every major title. 36 00:01:44,145 --> 00:01:47,398 โ€ You can't say anybody was better, but also tormented. 37 00:01:47,524 --> 00:01:49,025 He was, like, on selfโ€destruct mode. 38 00:01:49,109 --> 00:01:51,653 โ€ I just knew that he didn't love himself. 39 00:01:51,694 --> 00:01:53,446 There was something in him that he despised. 40 00:01:53,530 --> 00:01:56,491 โ€ If you're taking pain pills at 12 in the afternoon, 41 00:01:56,574 --> 00:01:58,785 belligerent, falling down, staggering, 42 00:01:58,868 --> 00:02:01,788 everything that you have in your life is this. 43 00:02:01,871 --> 00:02:04,374 And it's all going away. 44 00:02:04,457 --> 00:02:06,751 โ€ On more than one occasion, 45 00:02:06,835 --> 00:02:08,635 I really wanted to beat the hell out of Shawn, 46 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:10,797 but I knew there was a good man 47 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,841 behind all this other crap. 48 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,884 โ€ The biggest thing that he ever did 49 00:02:14,968 --> 00:02:16,219 is turning his life around 50 00:02:16,344 --> 00:02:18,680 to where he is now. 51 00:02:18,805 --> 00:02:21,766 โ€ And so, yep, there are two lives there. 52 00:02:21,850 --> 00:02:24,185 But there's one Shawn Michaels. 53 00:02:24,310 --> 00:02:29,315 โ€ The very best sports entertainer in the world. 54 00:02:29,399 --> 00:02:32,026 [rock music plays] 55 00:02:33,194 --> 00:02:36,072 [tense music] 56 00:02:36,197 --> 00:02:37,907 โ€ I love it. I say this. I say weโ€โ€againโ€โ€ 57 00:02:38,032 --> 00:02:40,451 Vince used to always tell me "You go all the way out there, 58 00:02:40,535 --> 00:02:41,683 I'll reel you back in if I want to," 59 00:02:41,703 --> 00:02:43,288 you know what I mean? 60 00:02:43,371 --> 00:02:46,916 โ€ NXT started out as a developmental brand 61 00:02:47,041 --> 00:02:48,960 that grooms WWE superstars. 62 00:02:49,043 --> 00:02:52,255 โ€ Any kind of count up, DQ, or whatever ends the match. 63 00:02:52,338 --> 00:02:56,593 โ€ There's Shawn's fingerprints in almost every talent in NXT. 64 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:57,802 Shawn is very hands on. 65 00:02:57,886 --> 00:03:00,305 โ€ Then he sits up behind him and then whack! 66 00:03:00,388 --> 00:03:03,057 โ€ He sold out arenas all around the world 67 00:03:03,183 --> 00:03:04,934 when he was the Heartbreak Kid. 68 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:06,332 He's in a different place in his life now. 69 00:03:06,352 --> 00:03:09,272 He's humble, he wants to be behind the scenes. 70 00:03:09,355 --> 00:03:10,815 It isn't about him. 71 00:03:10,899 --> 00:03:13,151 He wants to help others achieve their dreams. 72 00:03:13,193 --> 00:03:15,653 You've got to say it with passion and anger. 73 00:03:15,737 --> 00:03:18,865 โ€ Here we go, guys, three, two, one. 74 00:03:18,990 --> 00:03:20,241 โ€ Seeing Shawn today, 75 00:03:20,366 --> 00:03:24,329 it's sometimes hard for people to believe 76 00:03:24,454 --> 00:03:26,331 that's Shawn Michaels. 77 00:03:26,414 --> 00:03:27,874 Certain levels of talent 78 00:03:27,999 --> 00:03:29,459 command certain levels of respect. 79 00:03:29,542 --> 00:03:32,170 โ€ Just attack of Johnny Gargano. 80 00:03:32,295 --> 00:03:33,630 โ€ Oh, jeez. 81 00:03:33,713 --> 00:03:35,131 โ€ I added the plexiglass. 82 00:03:35,173 --> 00:03:38,843 โ€ His knowledge and his wisdom of the business 83 00:03:38,968 --> 00:03:41,804 and all that stuff, it's so valuable. 84 00:03:41,888 --> 00:03:43,556 So excellent job. Yeah, go, you got this. 85 00:03:43,681 --> 00:03:46,142 โ€ Shawn Michaels' life is a story 86 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:48,186 that a lot of people could relate to. 87 00:03:48,311 --> 00:03:50,480 He always wanted more. 88 00:03:50,563 --> 00:03:52,774 It was a life of never enough. 89 00:03:52,857 --> 00:03:56,069 And then, his life totally changes. 90 00:03:56,194 --> 00:03:58,988 A lot of us have that, if we're lucky. 91 00:03:59,113 --> 00:04:01,658 I think the Shawn Michaels story is one that's really cool 92 00:04:01,783 --> 00:04:04,827 and one that all of us can stand to learn from. 93 00:04:04,911 --> 00:04:08,748 [twangy guitar] 94 00:04:08,873 --> 00:04:11,626 โ€ I was born into a military family. 95 00:04:11,751 --> 00:04:14,587 My father was in the Air Force. 96 00:04:14,671 --> 00:04:15,985 It was Michael Shawn Hickenbottom, 97 00:04:16,005 --> 00:04:19,008 but everybody in my family called me Shawn. 98 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:23,846 My father was a pilot, so early on we moved a lot. 99 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:25,765 He was going to Vietnam. 100 00:04:25,848 --> 00:04:27,976 We went to England, then Maryland 101 00:04:28,059 --> 00:04:30,353 and then we moved to Texas. 102 00:04:30,478 --> 00:04:32,146 I was about eightโ€ish. 103 00:04:32,272 --> 00:04:36,442 From that point on, I was in the state of Texas. 104 00:04:36,526 --> 00:04:40,363 You don't have longโ€lasting friendships in the Air Force. 105 00:04:40,446 --> 00:04:42,740 The hardest part for making friends 106 00:04:42,865 --> 00:04:44,033 was having the last name. 107 00:04:44,158 --> 00:04:47,036 The roll call, Hickenbottom, Michael Hickenbottom. 108 00:04:47,161 --> 00:04:48,768 You could hear the snickers all over the room. 109 00:04:48,788 --> 00:04:51,040 Hickenbottom. And, of course... 110 00:04:51,165 --> 00:04:52,188 It's like, "Son of a biscuit, 111 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:54,294 I wish I had a different last name." 112 00:04:54,377 --> 00:04:57,130 โ€ Shawn was wellโ€loved. 113 00:04:57,213 --> 00:05:01,968 He was always very quiet and very shy growing up. 114 00:05:02,010 --> 00:05:03,928 He wasn't an extrovert. 115 00:05:04,012 --> 00:05:09,559 T a good, friendly, nice little boy. 116 00:05:09,684 --> 00:05:11,102 And people liked him. 117 00:05:11,185 --> 00:05:13,813 He was involved in sports all of his life. 118 00:05:13,896 --> 00:05:17,942 He just enjoyed doing everything. 119 00:05:18,026 --> 00:05:20,695 โ€ I was a big fan of playing football, 120 00:05:20,820 --> 00:05:22,196 because of the contact. 121 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:27,118 You know, contact and athletics were appealing to me. 122 00:05:27,201 --> 00:05:29,245 And then I'm 12 years old, 123 00:05:29,329 --> 00:05:32,665 getting to stay up late on a Saturday night, 124 00:05:32,749 --> 00:05:35,209 and this wrestling show starts. 125 00:05:35,335 --> 00:05:37,670 Southwest Championship Wrestling. 126 00:05:37,795 --> 00:05:39,255 The beginning montage, 127 00:05:39,339 --> 00:05:42,508 the guy is slow motion jumping off the top rope. 128 00:05:42,592 --> 00:05:44,352 I was enthralled in it. It was justโ€โ€[laughs] 129 00:05:44,469 --> 00:05:46,471 I don't know, the neatest thing I ever saw. 130 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:48,556 โ€ The best in professional wrestling and I'mโ€โ€ 131 00:05:48,681 --> 00:05:49,891 โ€ After the show, I walked out 132 00:05:49,974 --> 00:05:51,225 and my mom was in the kitchen. 133 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,478 I said, "I know what I'm going to do when I grow up." 134 00:05:53,603 --> 00:05:54,979 And she said, "What's that?" 135 00:05:55,104 --> 00:05:56,502 I said, "I'm going to be a professional wrestler." 136 00:05:56,522 --> 00:05:58,691 She was like, "Oh, that's nice, honey." 137 00:05:58,775 --> 00:06:02,987 โ€ He began to talk about that's what he wanted to do, 138 00:06:03,071 --> 00:06:06,949 and I was sure that ultimately he would grow out of that, 139 00:06:07,033 --> 00:06:08,868 but he never did. 140 00:06:08,993 --> 00:06:10,828 โ€ Down at the Freeman Coliseum, 141 00:06:10,912 --> 00:06:12,914 Shawn would periodically get to go, 142 00:06:13,039 --> 00:06:15,500 and, oh, he saw Tully Blanchard. 143 00:06:15,583 --> 00:06:19,295 โ€ Wahoo McDaniel, Eddie Mansfield, Scott Casey. 144 00:06:19,420 --> 00:06:23,925 โ€ Of course, then later, Ric Flair was a wrestling god, 145 00:06:24,008 --> 00:06:26,094 and he would buy wrestling magazines, 146 00:06:26,177 --> 00:06:28,054 and he would look at Ric Flair, 147 00:06:28,179 --> 00:06:29,327 and then he would stand in the mirror, 148 00:06:29,347 --> 00:06:32,809 and try to talk like him and look like him. 149 00:06:32,850 --> 00:06:34,268 โ€ Being a wrestling fan, 150 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:37,688 it was really a black sheep source of mockery. 151 00:06:37,814 --> 00:06:41,776 It's not something you say with a great deal of pride. 152 00:06:41,859 --> 00:06:43,277 It was just a relationship 153 00:06:43,361 --> 00:06:45,863 between me and wrestling for a while 154 00:06:45,988 --> 00:06:47,657 and my dad was an amateur wrestler 155 00:06:47,782 --> 00:06:51,661 at the University of Iowa, so he was a real wrestler. 156 00:06:51,744 --> 00:06:54,956 And, of course, he just gave some gruff like, "That's fake." 157 00:06:55,039 --> 00:06:57,500 The kindest thing I could say about it was 158 00:06:57,625 --> 00:07:01,921 I considered it to be an athletic soap opera, 159 00:07:02,004 --> 00:07:04,090 which has always been my description 160 00:07:04,173 --> 00:07:05,883 of professional wrestling. 161 00:07:06,008 --> 00:07:07,802 โ€ Then a new kid gets transferred. 162 00:07:07,885 --> 00:07:09,804 His name is Kenny Kent. 163 00:07:09,846 --> 00:07:13,099 I met Shawn the summer of 1980. 164 00:07:13,182 --> 00:07:15,184 We were sophomores in high school. Both 15. 165 00:07:15,268 --> 00:07:18,020 He would want to wrestle and throw around his friends, 166 00:07:18,146 --> 00:07:19,355 and they didn't like it. 167 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,859 And so I instantly became his little tag team partner 168 00:07:22,984 --> 00:07:24,694 and we would just bash each other 169 00:07:24,777 --> 00:07:26,237 and throw each other around, 170 00:07:26,362 --> 00:07:28,281 and that's really what developed our friendship. 171 00:07:28,364 --> 00:07:31,826 โ€ They'd practice out in the pool. Frightening. 172 00:07:31,951 --> 00:07:32,951 [laughs] 173 00:07:33,035 --> 00:07:35,830 Shawn would lift him straight him, Kenny, 174 00:07:35,955 --> 00:07:37,957 and then they'd fall into the pool. 175 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,209 His way of practicing. 176 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:42,044 โ€ Shawn dreamed of wrestling. 177 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:44,297 He would call me and tell me these matches 178 00:07:44,380 --> 00:07:46,549 that he would lay out and prepare. 179 00:07:46,674 --> 00:07:48,342 He was really obsessed with it. 180 00:07:48,468 --> 00:07:49,635 [crowd cheering] 181 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,138 โ€ In that time, you struggled back and forth 182 00:07:52,221 --> 00:07:53,901 with people who are telling you it's fake, 183 00:07:54,015 --> 00:07:55,683 but I am there watching the guyโ€โ€whap! 184 00:07:55,808 --> 00:07:59,562 I mean, hitting the guy and sweat's flying off. 185 00:07:59,687 --> 00:08:01,898 There's something to it. 186 00:08:02,023 --> 00:08:04,275 They've got me hook, line, and sinker. 187 00:08:04,358 --> 00:08:05,985 โ€ We were a very small school. 188 00:08:06,068 --> 00:08:07,383 We did not have a wrestling team. 189 00:08:07,403 --> 00:08:10,156 But our senior year, we had a talent show 190 00:08:10,239 --> 00:08:11,532 and it was Shawn's idea 191 00:08:11,657 --> 00:08:14,118 that me and him were gonna do a wrestling match. 192 00:08:14,202 --> 00:08:15,495 Everything was going quite well 193 00:08:15,578 --> 00:08:19,040 until I threw Shawn off the stage into the crowd, 194 00:08:19,165 --> 00:08:22,210 and beat his head on the table a couple of times. 195 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:25,129 There was just blood gushing all over his head. 196 00:08:25,213 --> 00:08:26,964 And people are going nuts. 197 00:08:27,048 --> 00:08:29,509 โ€ I think we came in second. We didn't win. 198 00:08:29,634 --> 00:08:32,428 โ€ We got beat by a group of cheerleaders 199 00:08:32,512 --> 00:08:35,973 so, you know, two guys in little tightie whities 200 00:08:36,057 --> 00:08:40,102 versus cheerleaders, they're gonna win every time. 201 00:08:40,186 --> 00:08:41,437 โ€ We graduate, 202 00:08:41,521 --> 00:08:43,189 and then it's "What are you gonna do?" 203 00:08:43,314 --> 00:08:44,834 Well, have you decided what you want?" 204 00:08:44,899 --> 00:08:46,609 "I still want to be a wrestler." 205 00:08:46,692 --> 00:08:49,654 I recognized that I said it when I was 12, 206 00:08:49,737 --> 00:08:54,367 but it's just been a big, big part of my life. 207 00:08:54,492 --> 00:08:56,744 Okay, that's awesome. That's not a possibility. 208 00:08:56,869 --> 00:08:59,330 โ€ But, you know, at 17, you look at him and you think 209 00:08:59,413 --> 00:09:01,332 you don't know what you're talking about. 210 00:09:01,457 --> 00:09:02,813 We said, "You're going to college." 211 00:09:02,833 --> 00:09:05,586 โ€ There wasn't a lot of open understanding 212 00:09:05,670 --> 00:09:06,796 in what I was doing. 213 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:10,091 โ€ We went off to Southwest Texas State University. 214 00:09:10,174 --> 00:09:11,534 When we lived together at college, 215 00:09:11,592 --> 00:09:13,636 there were many nights I would hear him 216 00:09:13,719 --> 00:09:15,596 and he's standing there with his shirt off 217 00:09:15,680 --> 00:09:18,015 and he'd be talking and screaming at the mirror, 218 00:09:18,140 --> 00:09:19,767 practicing. 219 00:09:19,850 --> 00:09:21,769 At the end of his second semester, 220 00:09:21,852 --> 00:09:25,815 I think his GPA was 0.4. 221 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:27,316 School just wasn't for him, 222 00:09:27,441 --> 00:09:29,819 and he was ready to make his move into the wrestling world. 223 00:09:29,902 --> 00:09:31,362 โ€ Essentially, he said, 224 00:09:31,445 --> 00:09:35,366 "I don't want to waste anymore of my time or your money. 225 00:09:35,491 --> 00:09:38,869 I am going to be a professional wrestler." 226 00:09:38,995 --> 00:09:40,496 โ€ My dad played golf with this guy, 227 00:09:40,580 --> 00:09:43,833 and apparently he's the guy that's a local promoter 228 00:09:43,874 --> 00:09:46,460 here in San Antonio. 229 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:49,589 We go down there, and Jose Lothario was there. 230 00:09:49,672 --> 00:09:54,093 โ€ From San Antonio, Texas, superstar Jose Lothario. 231 00:09:54,176 --> 00:09:55,776 โ€ I understood he was a legitimate name. 232 00:09:55,845 --> 00:09:58,264 The gentleman stated "Well, he has to be trained. 233 00:09:58,347 --> 00:10:01,100 "Jose could do the training if you wanted. 234 00:10:01,183 --> 00:10:03,811 It's gonna cost $3,000." 235 00:10:03,936 --> 00:10:06,147 โ€ I thought about facing him 236 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:09,483 when he was 35 or 40 years old, 237 00:10:09,567 --> 00:10:10,985 and having him say 238 00:10:11,110 --> 00:10:14,989 "Dad, if you'd have just given me the chance, 239 00:10:15,072 --> 00:10:17,992 I could have been a professional wrestler." 240 00:10:18,075 --> 00:10:20,077 And I couldn't face that thought. 241 00:10:20,202 --> 00:10:28,002 And so I said, "What the hell." 242 00:10:28,127 --> 00:10:32,465 [soft music] 243 00:10:32,548 --> 00:10:34,300 โ€ You know, I wake up every day 244 00:10:34,383 --> 00:10:38,304 never forgetting what I did for a living. 245 00:10:38,429 --> 00:10:41,182 I sort of developed a habit getting up in the morning, 246 00:10:41,265 --> 00:10:43,225 stretching and then the heat pad. 247 00:10:43,351 --> 00:10:45,561 Over the years, you just come up with a system 248 00:10:45,686 --> 00:10:49,357 that your body responds well to. 249 00:10:49,482 --> 00:10:52,652 I do some form of training every day, you know, 250 00:10:52,735 --> 00:10:55,863 to be comfortable for the rest of the day. 251 00:10:55,988 --> 00:10:58,991 I plan on getting, you know, new knees, knee replacements 252 00:10:59,116 --> 00:11:00,701 and shoulder replacements. 253 00:11:00,785 --> 00:11:04,372 Those things are gonna add to my quality of life. 254 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:06,145 It's not like I got into this stuff thinking 255 00:11:06,165 --> 00:11:10,795 I want to be independently wealthy and be 100% healthy. 256 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,004 That doesn't happen. 257 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:13,673 So I don't know, I don't mind it. 258 00:11:13,798 --> 00:11:17,635 I don't think that's some big, crazy sacrifice. 259 00:11:17,718 --> 00:11:20,763 โ™ช 260 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:25,643 [upbeat music playing] 261 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:31,315 โ€ I first came across Shawn Michaels in 1983. 262 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:32,858 Shawn was training with a gentleman 263 00:11:32,983 --> 00:11:34,568 by the name of Jose Lothario. 264 00:11:34,694 --> 00:11:38,364 Jose was a big star in Houston, Texas, 265 00:11:38,447 --> 00:11:40,408 Dallas, San Antonio. 266 00:11:40,533 --> 00:11:44,203 โ€ He was Hispanic, so there was a Luchador style. 267 00:11:44,328 --> 00:11:47,248 It was the aerial side of things. 268 00:11:47,331 --> 00:11:49,542 Thankfully, in all of that process, 269 00:11:49,667 --> 00:11:53,963 he saw that, "Oh, my goodness, he's actually pretty good." 270 00:11:54,046 --> 00:11:56,465 It was worth the $3,000, period, 271 00:11:56,549 --> 00:11:59,093 for him to get me my first job in Louisiana, 272 00:11:59,176 --> 00:12:00,456 and that could not have happened 273 00:12:00,511 --> 00:12:01,762 without Jose Lothario. 274 00:12:01,846 --> 00:12:06,225 โ€ The pride of Vero Beach, Florida, Terry Taylor. 275 00:12:06,350 --> 00:12:08,144 โ€ The first time I met Shawn Michaels 276 00:12:08,227 --> 00:12:10,062 working for Midโ€South, 277 00:12:10,187 --> 00:12:12,648 there was this young, innocent, cheerful, 278 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:14,316 vibrant sort of 279 00:12:14,442 --> 00:12:16,444 lost young man. 280 00:12:16,527 --> 00:12:18,487 โ€ I was scared of everything. 281 00:12:18,571 --> 00:12:21,323 It was a lot of confusion, a lot of unknown. 282 00:12:21,449 --> 00:12:24,326 How in God's name is this supposed to go on? 283 00:12:24,410 --> 00:12:25,453 [upbeat music] 284 00:12:25,536 --> 00:12:26,829 I came walking through the back, 285 00:12:26,912 --> 00:12:28,956 and Terry Taylor was standing there at the curtain. 286 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:30,646 โ€ I said, "How long have you been in the business?" 287 00:12:30,666 --> 00:12:32,226 And he goes, "That was my first match." 288 00:12:32,334 --> 00:12:35,129 And I couldn't believe it, because this isn't easy. 289 00:12:35,212 --> 00:12:36,505 โ€ Shawn Michaels. 290 00:12:36,589 --> 00:12:39,467 A very young man, and very inexperienced, 291 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:42,011 but he has a great deal of natural athletic ability. 292 00:12:42,136 --> 00:12:44,597 โ€ We drove 3,000 miles a week. 293 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:46,140 That means there's a lot of time 294 00:12:46,182 --> 00:12:47,455 that you're in the car doing this, 295 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:48,684 and he would ask questions. 296 00:12:48,809 --> 00:12:51,145 โ€ A young man who is quite handsome. 297 00:12:51,228 --> 00:12:53,314 โ€ I was very well mannered, I was quiet, 298 00:12:53,439 --> 00:12:54,879 and I wanted to do nothing but learn. 299 00:12:54,899 --> 00:12:57,443 โ€ Some young people come in, "I know everything." 300 00:12:57,526 --> 00:12:59,403 Nothing like that with Shawn. 301 00:12:59,528 --> 00:13:02,656 Humble, passionate, driven, hungry. 302 00:13:02,740 --> 00:13:04,325 [crowd cheers] 303 00:13:04,366 --> 00:13:07,203 โ€ At about six months, the owner, Bill Watts, 304 00:13:07,328 --> 00:13:11,248 came to me and he got me set up in Kansas City. 305 00:13:11,373 --> 00:13:13,584 I was going to have the opportunity to begin 306 00:13:13,667 --> 00:13:17,963 to grow as a wrestler, as a performer. 307 00:13:18,088 --> 00:13:19,590 โ€ We're hearing all this, like, 308 00:13:19,673 --> 00:13:21,489 this guy Shawn Michaels, Shawn Michaels is coming in. 309 00:13:21,509 --> 00:13:23,385 We're like, "Damn, nobody has gotten 310 00:13:23,511 --> 00:13:25,346 "any attention like this. 311 00:13:25,471 --> 00:13:26,931 What's wrong with us?" 312 00:13:27,014 --> 00:13:28,432 We walked in the dressing room 313 00:13:28,516 --> 00:13:30,559 and this guy had real short hair, 314 00:13:30,684 --> 00:13:33,896 green tights pulled up to under his chest. 315 00:13:33,979 --> 00:13:35,481 Let me ask this nerd, like, 316 00:13:35,564 --> 00:13:37,483 "Hey, do you know who Shawn Michaels is?" 317 00:13:37,566 --> 00:13:40,152 And he leaned back he goes, "I'm Shawn Michaels." 318 00:13:40,236 --> 00:13:41,946 [laughs] 319 00:13:42,029 --> 00:13:44,490 I was like, "Oh, damn, we got some work to do." 320 00:13:44,573 --> 00:13:45,679 They threw us together because 321 00:13:45,699 --> 00:13:46,939 they needed a match real quick. 322 00:13:46,992 --> 00:13:51,288 We didn't have time to prepare for it, but it clicked. 323 00:13:51,372 --> 00:13:52,832 โ€ Marty Jannetty. 324 00:13:52,873 --> 00:13:55,459 โ€ Marty just carried himself with such confidence. 325 00:13:55,543 --> 00:13:58,462 He was enjoying himself. He was outgoing. 326 00:13:58,546 --> 00:14:01,966 I was so sort of shy, conservative. 327 00:14:02,049 --> 00:14:03,217 โ€ Shawn Michaels. 328 00:14:03,342 --> 00:14:05,052 โ€ Shawn came from a military family. 329 00:14:05,135 --> 00:14:09,515 Shawn was protected from a lot of the evils 330 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,767 that lurk in the real world 331 00:14:11,851 --> 00:14:13,936 and having some notoriety, being on television, 332 00:14:14,019 --> 00:14:16,939 you've got women, you've got alcohol, you've got drugs. 333 00:14:17,022 --> 00:14:20,067 And it's all readily available to you. 334 00:14:20,150 --> 00:14:21,652 โ€ Yeah, he liked it right away. 335 00:14:21,735 --> 00:14:24,405 At first, he wasn't old enough, 336 00:14:24,488 --> 00:14:25,845 so he had to wait in the parking lot. 337 00:14:25,865 --> 00:14:29,076 We'd bring girls down to him and beer down to him. 338 00:14:29,201 --> 00:14:30,661 โ€ Marty Jannetty one day said, 339 00:14:30,744 --> 00:14:34,707 "I see something in you that's just dying to get out." 340 00:14:34,832 --> 00:14:36,208 He said, "You just need somebody 341 00:14:36,333 --> 00:14:37,626 "to bring it out of you, 342 00:14:37,710 --> 00:14:39,211 and I'm gonna bring it out." 343 00:14:39,336 --> 00:14:41,922 โ€ From the Showboat Hotel and Casino 344 00:14:42,006 --> 00:14:43,632 in Las Vegas, Nevada, 345 00:14:43,716 --> 00:14:47,428 this is AWA Championship Wrestling on ESPN. 346 00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:49,305 โ€ So, I was 20 years old. 347 00:14:49,388 --> 00:14:51,849 TV tapings are in Las Vegas. 348 00:14:51,974 --> 00:14:53,642 At that time, Marty and I, you know, 349 00:14:53,726 --> 00:14:54,643 I knew he was out there, 350 00:14:54,727 --> 00:14:57,771 so we just started looking around. 351 00:14:57,855 --> 00:14:58,981 [upbeat music] 352 00:14:59,023 --> 00:15:02,151 All of a sudden there he is, he's down there playing. 353 00:15:02,234 --> 00:15:03,569 And go down there, 354 00:15:03,694 --> 00:15:06,196 and I went and just doโ€doโ€do, pulled it down. 355 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,440 โ€ I'm sitting there with him, 356 00:15:07,531 --> 00:15:08,762 and all of the sudden we hear this, 357 00:15:08,782 --> 00:15:10,262 "Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding." 358 00:15:10,326 --> 00:15:14,788 Red lights go flashing around, and Shawn hit triple 7s. 359 00:15:14,872 --> 00:15:17,708 Won 750 bucks the first time. 360 00:15:17,833 --> 00:15:22,296 The irony of it now, like, oh, this place wasโ€โ€ 361 00:15:22,379 --> 00:15:23,569 Vegas and the nightlife of Vegas 362 00:15:23,589 --> 00:15:25,174 and everything else would be my downโ€โ€ 363 00:15:25,257 --> 00:15:26,467 [laughs] Would be my downfall. 364 00:15:26,508 --> 00:15:28,302 It started later that night. 365 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:31,180 It's the first line of yayo, you know. 366 00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:33,724 [laughs] The first line of blow. 367 00:15:33,849 --> 00:15:37,937 And it's, "Oh, my gosh, this is the greatest thing ever." 368 00:15:38,020 --> 00:15:41,148 And it's just this whole world opens up. 369 00:15:41,231 --> 00:15:43,692 I'd have never been able to get that guy out of me, 370 00:15:43,817 --> 00:15:46,820 and Marty is the guy that helped tap into that. 371 00:15:46,904 --> 00:15:49,073 I don't even know how much I knew was there. 372 00:15:49,198 --> 00:15:50,324 โ™ช 373 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:53,369 โ€ Me and Shawn partied Monday night, Tuesday night, 374 00:15:53,494 --> 00:15:55,162 Wednesday night, Thursday night. 375 00:15:55,245 --> 00:15:56,664 Come Friday, we were burned out. 376 00:15:56,705 --> 00:15:59,625 Big Van Vader, he comes to hang out with us. 377 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:01,961 He looked at Curt Hennig and he goes, 378 00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,505 "I thought you said these guys partied." 379 00:16:04,630 --> 00:16:07,216 And Curt said, "They don't start until midnight." 380 00:16:07,341 --> 00:16:08,634 โ€ The Midnight Rockers. 381 00:16:08,759 --> 00:16:10,844 What a sensational pair they are. 382 00:16:10,970 --> 00:16:14,473 โ€ It was like magic. The Judas Priest song come on. 383 00:16:14,556 --> 00:16:17,643 โ€ They love to party. 384 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:19,353 โ€ They've taken the AWA by storm. 385 00:16:19,436 --> 00:16:20,516 โ€ The move happening faster 386 00:16:20,604 --> 00:16:21,897 than we can even talk about it. 387 00:16:22,022 --> 00:16:23,462 โ€ They've got to put a bigger roof on the arenas 388 00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:24,650 to hold these two kids in it. 389 00:16:24,775 --> 00:16:27,361 โ€ These two are indeed sensational, 390 00:16:27,486 --> 00:16:28,654 to say the least. 391 00:16:28,737 --> 00:16:32,116 โ€ โ™ช Living after midnight 392 00:16:32,199 --> 00:16:34,493 โ™ช Rocking 'til the dawn 393 00:16:34,576 --> 00:16:36,203 [crowd cheering] 394 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:39,707 โ€ Midnight Rockers had a hell of a run in the AWA. 395 00:16:39,832 --> 00:16:41,834 They'd had TV on ESPN. 396 00:16:41,875 --> 00:16:43,377 โ€ The World Tag Team Championship 397 00:16:43,502 --> 00:16:45,462 is Marty Jannetty and Shawn Michaels' goal. 398 00:16:45,587 --> 00:16:46,672 โ€ They were smaller guys, 399 00:16:46,797 --> 00:16:49,216 but they could work with the giants 400 00:16:49,341 --> 00:16:51,051 and have a great match. 401 00:16:51,176 --> 00:16:52,636 [crowd cheering] 402 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,284 โ€ The Tag Team Championship of the World 403 00:16:54,304 --> 00:16:57,391 is what they are fighting for here tonight. 404 00:16:57,516 --> 00:16:59,518 โ€ I think he cracked his head on the cement 405 00:16:59,643 --> 00:17:01,437 when he went out there. 406 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,105 โ€ The blood match, if you will, 407 00:17:03,188 --> 00:17:06,650 was the first time that a national audience got exposed 408 00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:09,403 to the talent of the Midnight Rockers. 409 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:11,822 โ€ This is absolute mayhem. 410 00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:15,117 โ€ The match itself was very bloody, very gory. 411 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,536 โ€ One of the toughest, roughest matches 412 00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:19,747 that we have ever seen. 413 00:17:19,872 --> 00:17:20,998 โ€ That was kind of like 414 00:17:21,081 --> 00:17:22,833 a defining moment in their career, 415 00:17:22,916 --> 00:17:25,919 that they were made at that level. 416 00:17:26,712 --> 00:17:28,589 โ€ If we was on the road 300 days a year, 417 00:17:28,672 --> 00:17:30,424 we partied 290 of them. 418 00:17:30,507 --> 00:17:31,717 [laughs] 419 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,427 We used to do a lot of drugs. 420 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:35,137 There was a lot of powder around. 421 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,681 โ€ You look at rock stars and you look at rock bands. 422 00:17:37,765 --> 00:17:41,894 There was a tendency to want to go wild and destroy things. 423 00:17:42,019 --> 00:17:43,729 It's fun when you're young, 424 00:17:43,812 --> 00:17:45,606 because you feel like a rebel. 425 00:17:45,689 --> 00:17:47,691 We've made it, man. Look at this. 426 00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:49,860 And throw a beer bottle up against the wall, 427 00:17:49,943 --> 00:17:52,029 and it was, like, oh, we'll pay for it later. 428 00:17:52,154 --> 00:17:53,739 โ€ We always did the job, 429 00:17:53,822 --> 00:17:55,012 but it was just partying all night. 430 00:17:55,032 --> 00:17:57,242 Destroy your room at the Showboat 431 00:17:57,367 --> 00:18:00,496 and we got the entire, uh, AWA, 432 00:18:00,537 --> 00:18:03,499 the entire company got kicked out of there. 433 00:18:03,624 --> 00:18:07,711 It wasn't very long that we had a reputation. 434 00:18:07,836 --> 00:18:12,674 And once you get it, everybody else knows you got it. 435 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,636 WWE was starting to really separate itself. 436 00:18:15,719 --> 00:18:16,637 If that's where you wanted to go, 437 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,639 that's where you set your goals. 438 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:23,310 Finally, Marty got the call to go into New York. 439 00:18:23,393 --> 00:18:29,191 โ€ In 1987, the Rockers started in Buffalo, New York. 440 00:18:29,316 --> 00:18:33,237 Marty and Shawn looked at this as their big break. 441 00:18:33,362 --> 00:18:35,531 That night in the bar, 442 00:18:35,656 --> 00:18:37,950 the other talent looked at Shawn and Marty 443 00:18:38,033 --> 00:18:42,663 as these two young punks with a chip on their shoulder. 444 00:18:42,746 --> 00:18:44,081 They're gonna have to earn 445 00:18:44,164 --> 00:18:47,126 the respect of the WWE locker room. 446 00:18:47,209 --> 00:18:49,670 โ€ We were scared, man. We were scared. 447 00:18:49,795 --> 00:18:53,757 So that night, that's why we kind of kept to ourselves, 448 00:18:53,841 --> 00:18:55,551 and Terry Garvin come up and he said, 449 00:18:55,676 --> 00:18:56,676 "No, don't do that. 450 00:18:56,718 --> 00:18:59,179 Don't do that. Y'all have to mingle." 451 00:18:59,304 --> 00:19:03,058 โ€ And then all of a sudden Jimmy Jack Funk, he came over. 452 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:06,353 He's hammering down these drinks and he's like, "Hey! 453 00:19:06,436 --> 00:19:07,813 You guys are big partiers!" 454 00:19:07,896 --> 00:19:12,943 He starts eating his glass. "Come on let's do it." 455 00:19:13,026 --> 00:19:14,486 I at least gotta be a little tough. 456 00:19:14,611 --> 00:19:18,157 So then I break a wine glass over my head. 457 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,286 And that was it, I turn around, I leave. 458 00:19:22,369 --> 00:19:23,996 I would never say we didn't earn 459 00:19:24,037 --> 00:19:25,247 our reputations, any of that, 460 00:19:25,372 --> 00:19:26,415 but the wrestling business 461 00:19:26,498 --> 00:19:27,771 is one giant fish story, all right? 462 00:19:27,791 --> 00:19:29,871 So something happened once in the wrestling business, 463 00:19:29,918 --> 00:19:32,296 that gets magnified to ten times. 464 00:19:32,379 --> 00:19:33,797 โ€ Some people say 465 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:36,133 that Shawn or Marty threw a beer bottle, 466 00:19:36,216 --> 00:19:41,722 which started a chain of events that couldn't be stopped. 467 00:19:41,847 --> 00:19:43,390 โ€ "And then these two guys, 468 00:19:43,473 --> 00:19:45,233 "I mean, they're in there just getting crazy, 469 00:19:45,267 --> 00:19:48,812 tearing up the bar, throwing stuff all over the place." 470 00:19:48,937 --> 00:19:52,774 And that's not at all what happened. 471 00:19:52,858 --> 00:19:56,570 โ€ The next day, Shawn and Marty were fired, 472 00:19:56,695 --> 00:19:59,406 and it was over for them after one day, 473 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:04,328 from just the story and the hearsay and innuendo. 474 00:20:04,411 --> 00:20:06,872 โ€ I normally give reasons as to, you know, 475 00:20:06,997 --> 00:20:09,541 why I'm gonna do something and I'm sure I did with them, 476 00:20:09,666 --> 00:20:12,961 but that was one and done, out. 477 00:20:13,045 --> 00:20:15,380 โ€ He said, "The guys don't like it." 478 00:20:15,464 --> 00:20:17,758 He said, "They won't let you make it here." 479 00:20:17,841 --> 00:20:23,305 In my mind, I'm 23 and it's over. 480 00:20:23,388 --> 00:20:26,642 That was my one big shot. 481 00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:29,811 It happened now and it's gone. 482 00:20:34,483 --> 00:20:37,486 โ€ Take a look at Takeover. 483 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:39,321 We'll watch it, and I'll Skull you. 484 00:20:39,404 --> 00:20:40,322 โ€ Okay. 485 00:20:40,405 --> 00:20:41,657 [laughs] 486 00:20:41,782 --> 00:20:44,034 โ€ Shawn Michaels put his heart and soul 487 00:20:44,117 --> 00:20:45,619 into being the best pro wrestler 488 00:20:45,702 --> 00:20:46,912 that he could possibly be, 489 00:20:47,037 --> 00:20:49,998 and he does the exact same thing 490 00:20:50,123 --> 00:20:52,084 as a coach and as producer. 491 00:20:52,209 --> 00:20:53,961 โ€ Stop there and look at each other. 492 00:20:54,044 --> 00:20:55,921 Can that stuff take a little longer? 493 00:20:56,004 --> 00:20:58,090 โ€ He will find ways to pick apart 494 00:20:58,173 --> 00:21:00,217 every little thing to make it better. 495 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:02,636 โ€ Aim for the head. 496 00:21:02,719 --> 00:21:04,137 You can't hold back on that, 497 00:21:04,221 --> 00:21:06,161 because that's gonna cause you not to get all the way around. 498 00:21:06,181 --> 00:21:07,808 โ€ Shawn has this amazing ability 499 00:21:07,933 --> 00:21:10,644 to instill a confidence in you. 500 00:21:10,727 --> 00:21:12,396 This was a tremendous bout. 501 00:21:12,521 --> 00:21:14,314 โ€ I mean, someone like Shawn Michaels 502 00:21:14,398 --> 00:21:16,984 gives that to you, that's all the motivation that you need. 503 00:21:17,109 --> 00:21:21,280 [laughter] 504 00:21:22,864 --> 00:21:25,659 [crowd cheering] 505 00:21:25,742 --> 00:21:27,995 โ€ The unfortunate by-product 506 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:34,042 of Shawn and Marty being fired after their first day in WWE 507 00:21:34,126 --> 00:21:37,671 is Marty and Shawn had burned their bridge in the AWA. 508 00:21:37,796 --> 00:21:38,922 Where do you go? 509 00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:40,340 And welcome once again 510 00:21:40,465 --> 00:21:41,989 to Continental Championship Wrestling and we haveโ€โ€ 511 00:21:42,009 --> 00:21:45,262 โ€ We ended up in Birmingham, Alabama. 512 00:21:45,345 --> 00:21:47,055 Continental Wrestling. 513 00:21:47,180 --> 00:21:49,266 I was wrestling in front of 25 people 514 00:21:49,349 --> 00:21:50,851 at 300 bucks a week. 515 00:21:50,934 --> 00:21:53,312 If you wanted to get $50 in cash, 516 00:21:53,395 --> 00:21:55,939 you get your other $50 in blow, you could do that. 517 00:21:56,023 --> 00:22:00,694 Which is probably what I did nine times out of ten. 518 00:22:00,819 --> 00:22:04,114 โ€ I heard him talk about how depressed he was. 519 00:22:04,197 --> 00:22:06,992 At that time, we was doing a lot of cocaine. 520 00:22:07,034 --> 00:22:08,368 And we would talk about wrestling 521 00:22:08,452 --> 00:22:11,663 and we would watch wrestling videos and we would study. 522 00:22:11,747 --> 00:22:13,165 I had to go home to my girlfriend 523 00:22:13,290 --> 00:22:15,083 like at two or three or four in the morning. 524 00:22:15,208 --> 00:22:17,711 Sometimes the next morning sun was out. 525 00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:20,172 And evidently, the way he says it, 526 00:22:20,297 --> 00:22:22,758 I let him down 'cause I didn't stay with him more 527 00:22:22,841 --> 00:22:24,301 and he was by himself. 528 00:22:24,384 --> 00:22:26,325 When you're doing cocaine, you don't want to be alone. 529 00:22:26,345 --> 00:22:29,139 [laughs] 530 00:22:29,181 --> 00:22:31,350 โ€ When you're up at 4:00 in the morning 531 00:22:31,475 --> 00:22:36,938 coming down from the yayo, that's like, it's very dreary. 532 00:22:37,022 --> 00:22:40,150 Because the low is just so really low. 533 00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:42,027 I was like, "Man, if I had a gun, 534 00:22:42,152 --> 00:22:43,320 "this is one of those times 535 00:22:43,403 --> 00:22:46,323 that I was reckless enough to have the balls to do it." 536 00:22:46,406 --> 00:22:48,575 At that time, it would have wrecked my parents. 537 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:53,997 You know, their suffering is what pulled me back from that. 538 00:22:54,081 --> 00:22:56,583 But the thing is I never told them the truth. 539 00:22:56,708 --> 00:22:58,815 So I'm not telling like, "Jeez, Mama, I'm just partying, 540 00:22:58,835 --> 00:23:01,463 getting hammered and doing blow." 541 00:23:01,505 --> 00:23:05,425 โ€ Shawn and Marty, they wanted to come back. 542 00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:08,512 I remember Pat Patterson giving them the advice 543 00:23:08,637 --> 00:23:10,055 to continue to work 544 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:15,519 and continue to reverse the reputation that you have, 545 00:23:15,644 --> 00:23:17,813 and prove to us that you belong. 546 00:23:17,938 --> 00:23:19,981 And that's what Marty and Shawn did. 547 00:23:20,065 --> 00:23:21,691 โ€ Pat was instrumental in saying, 548 00:23:21,817 --> 00:23:23,485 "Vince, he's a great talent." 549 00:23:23,527 --> 00:23:25,779 and it is difficult for me to make that decision, 550 00:23:25,862 --> 00:23:27,197 because he was a jerk. 551 00:23:27,322 --> 00:23:28,824 I mean, doing some stupid things. 552 00:23:28,907 --> 00:23:30,826 But Pat was right. 553 00:23:30,909 --> 00:23:33,495 โ€ I was there in '88 when they came back. 554 00:23:33,578 --> 00:23:34,746 It had been a year 555 00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:38,083 since the Rockers had kinda screwed up on their first day. 556 00:23:38,166 --> 00:23:40,794 โ€ We're gonna bring you back, but you're on probation. 557 00:23:40,877 --> 00:23:42,504 You know, keep your [bleep] together. 558 00:23:42,587 --> 00:23:45,507 Yes, sir. 559 00:23:45,632 --> 00:23:46,967 โ€ Two newcomers, the Rockers. 560 00:23:47,092 --> 00:23:48,927 These guys are excitement personified. 561 00:23:49,010 --> 00:23:51,054 They'll be high flying. 562 00:23:51,179 --> 00:23:53,306 โ€ I met Shawn in 1990. 563 00:23:53,390 --> 00:23:56,268 They were pretty much, you know, fun loving guys. 564 00:23:56,351 --> 00:23:57,874 They even tested me a little bit with their, 565 00:23:57,894 --> 00:23:59,729 you know, their antics. 566 00:23:59,855 --> 00:24:02,983 Actually, you know, they were both pretty much peckerheads. 567 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,402 I mean, I've got to call a spade a spade. 568 00:24:05,527 --> 00:24:07,092 โ€ The Rockers have got a bag full of tricks 569 00:24:07,112 --> 00:24:08,352 and you ain't seen nothing yet, 570 00:24:08,447 --> 00:24:10,115 so get ready, because here we come. 571 00:24:10,198 --> 00:24:11,700 Wow! 572 00:24:11,825 --> 00:24:14,244 โ€ They were definitely innovators 573 00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:16,746 doing tandem moves together. 574 00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:19,499 You know, such a cohesive unit. 575 00:24:19,583 --> 00:24:23,044 The fans went nuts for them, especially the women. 576 00:24:23,170 --> 00:24:26,715 You know, the long hair and all that. 577 00:24:26,798 --> 00:24:27,716 โ€ There was a transitional moment 578 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:29,968 happening in the business 579 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,512 where the athleticism was picking up. 580 00:24:32,637 --> 00:24:36,850 The ability to do things that Shawn and Marty could do. 581 00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:38,560 โ€ Oh, what a backdrop! 582 00:24:38,685 --> 00:24:40,645 โ€ Tag team wrestling now 583 00:24:40,729 --> 00:24:43,773 has been impacted a great deal by what Marty and I did. 584 00:24:43,857 --> 00:24:45,317 [camera shutter clicking] 585 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,195 โ€ The first time you ever make a magazine is huge, 586 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,739 and we would always go to the stores, 587 00:24:50,864 --> 00:24:52,304 stop and look at the magazine racks. 588 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:55,327 I remember one time I heard Shawn "Oh, my God!" 589 00:24:55,368 --> 00:24:56,558 And there was a picture of us. 590 00:24:56,578 --> 00:25:00,040 It said "From Imitators To Innovators" 591 00:25:00,123 --> 00:25:02,042 and he's holding it up and he was so proud 592 00:25:02,167 --> 00:25:05,629 and I was, like, "Oh, man! Yeah, we did it! 593 00:25:05,670 --> 00:25:06,713 โ€ Shawn Michaels, 594 00:25:06,796 --> 00:25:09,758 Marty Jannetty, the Rockers. 595 00:25:09,841 --> 00:25:11,718 โ€ That's a real notch in the belt, 596 00:25:11,843 --> 00:25:13,970 to be on Saturday night's main event. 597 00:25:14,095 --> 00:25:15,255 โ€ Saturday night's main event 598 00:25:15,347 --> 00:25:17,432 was finally going to be the Rockers 599 00:25:17,516 --> 00:25:19,976 winning the Tag Team Championship 600 00:25:20,101 --> 00:25:23,188 against Bret Hart and Jim the Anvil Neidhart. 601 00:25:23,313 --> 00:25:25,482 โ€ It was gonna be five stars. 602 00:25:25,524 --> 00:25:27,734 It was gonna be as good a match as we ever had. 603 00:25:27,859 --> 00:25:29,486 [crowd cheering] 604 00:25:29,528 --> 00:25:32,322 โ€ We're in the process of having that match, 605 00:25:32,405 --> 00:25:36,117 and all of a sudden, the rope breaks. 606 00:25:36,201 --> 00:25:37,994 Bret, the consummate pro, 607 00:25:38,078 --> 00:25:40,539 he understands it's not live, it's taped. 608 00:25:40,622 --> 00:25:42,040 We can fix all this. 609 00:25:42,123 --> 00:25:43,483 โ€ It's taped. All you've got to do 610 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,502 is grab a hold and then they'll fix it 611 00:25:45,627 --> 00:25:47,170 and then you're still in that hold, 612 00:25:47,254 --> 00:25:48,547 then the match can carry on. 613 00:25:48,672 --> 00:25:51,341 And I told them, I said, "Just fix the rope." 614 00:25:51,424 --> 00:25:53,490 "Fix the rope, fix the rope. We'll take care of this." 615 00:25:53,510 --> 00:25:57,264 And then we get word, just to continue without it, 616 00:25:57,347 --> 00:25:59,641 so that's what we do. 617 00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:04,229 โ€ It was a disaster, and I was so sick about it. 618 00:26:04,312 --> 00:26:05,939 โ€ We get our championship victory. 619 00:26:06,022 --> 00:26:08,692 We are doing our best to look excited 620 00:26:08,817 --> 00:26:15,156 in what is this huge steaming pile of crap in the ring. 621 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,741 โ€ It just looked horrible. 622 00:26:16,866 --> 00:26:18,785 So the match never aired. 623 00:26:18,868 --> 00:26:20,328 โ€ Vince calls me and said, 624 00:26:20,412 --> 00:26:23,039 "We're not going to acknowledge that you've won. 625 00:26:23,164 --> 00:26:24,833 You're going to give the belts back. 626 00:26:24,916 --> 00:26:26,042 [scoffs] 627 00:26:26,167 --> 00:26:27,460 โ€ Like, okay. 628 00:26:27,544 --> 00:26:29,254 Are we gonna have another opportunity? 629 00:26:29,337 --> 00:26:33,842 No, probably just gonna go in other directions. 630 00:26:33,925 --> 00:26:35,260 Unbelievably disappointed, 631 00:26:35,343 --> 00:26:38,638 because that's not what you imagine that moment being. 632 00:26:38,722 --> 00:26:40,599 Done, it's over. 633 00:26:44,853 --> 00:26:47,897 [crowd cheering] 634 00:26:48,023 --> 00:26:53,278 โ€ We were on the road 300 days a year for years. 635 00:26:53,361 --> 00:26:56,323 The same hotels, same rental car, 636 00:26:56,406 --> 00:26:59,117 some of the same girls. 637 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,328 [crowd cheering] 638 00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:03,163 โ€ He kicked his own partner 639 00:27:03,246 --> 00:27:04,998 right in the face. 640 00:27:05,081 --> 00:27:07,334 โ€ I remember we were in Denver. 641 00:27:07,417 --> 00:27:11,129 Roddy Piper came in our room and we had a few girls there, 642 00:27:11,254 --> 00:27:14,215 and Roddy kept bragging on Shawn. 643 00:27:14,341 --> 00:27:17,427 โ€ He was stirring up the pot as far as saying, 644 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:19,159 you know, I could be a singles and, you know, 645 00:27:19,179 --> 00:27:21,806 have great success and things like that. 646 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:24,142 And he'd look at me and go "We've got to work on you. 647 00:27:24,267 --> 00:27:26,394 You're still rough around the edges." 648 00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,355 I was like, "Roddy, shouldn't we talk 649 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,273 about that some other time?" 650 00:27:30,357 --> 00:27:33,276 And Shawn shoved me at that point. 651 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,320 [overlapping chatter] 652 00:27:35,403 --> 00:27:36,988 โ€ Everybody got in a fight 653 00:27:37,072 --> 00:27:40,825 because everybody was not in their best frame of mind, 654 00:27:40,909 --> 00:27:42,202 like all the time. 655 00:27:42,285 --> 00:27:43,703 โ€ And he attacked me in the hallway 656 00:27:43,828 --> 00:27:46,414 and then I didn't want to hit him once, let alone, 657 00:27:46,539 --> 00:27:48,333 you know, over and over. Had blood. 658 00:27:48,416 --> 00:27:50,585 Like, it looked like you'd, you know, gutted a deer 659 00:27:50,669 --> 00:27:51,795 or something. 660 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,672 โ€ There was speculation that Marty Jannetty 661 00:27:53,797 --> 00:27:55,590 and Shawn Michaels are not getting along. 662 00:27:55,674 --> 00:27:57,467 There was speculation that Shawn Michaels 663 00:27:57,509 --> 00:28:00,053 is kinda wanting to go on his own. 664 00:28:00,136 --> 00:28:01,680 โ€ All of my success at that point 665 00:28:01,805 --> 00:28:05,517 was Tag Team, but there was never a time in my career 666 00:28:05,642 --> 00:28:07,519 where someone didn't say to me, 667 00:28:07,644 --> 00:28:10,021 like, "I think you've got some talent." 668 00:28:10,146 --> 00:28:13,358 It was eventually gonna come down to me. 669 00:28:13,441 --> 00:28:15,652 I remember the first time he told me, 670 00:28:15,735 --> 00:28:17,529 "I want to be the World Champion one day. 671 00:28:17,654 --> 00:28:20,323 I don't want to tag the rest of our career." 672 00:28:20,448 --> 00:28:23,034 "I just need you to let me know when you're ready for that. 673 00:28:23,159 --> 00:28:24,494 Don't spring it on me." 674 00:28:24,577 --> 00:28:27,747 And then he sprung it on me anyway. 675 00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:31,668 Welcome to the Barbershop, ladies and gentlemen. 676 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:36,798 Let's welcome them right now. They're the Rockers. 677 00:28:36,923 --> 00:28:38,133 [audience cheering] 678 00:28:38,174 --> 00:28:40,802 Recently there's been a lot of controversy, 679 00:28:40,927 --> 00:28:42,303 a lot of rumors flying guys. 680 00:28:42,429 --> 00:28:44,305 Maybe you guys are gonna break up. 681 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:46,307 You've been having some problems. 682 00:28:46,391 --> 00:28:48,101 โ€ I didn't become familiar with Shawn 683 00:28:48,184 --> 00:28:53,440 until he showed up in WWE with Marty Jannetty as the Rockers. 684 00:28:53,523 --> 00:28:56,151 That's my first introduction to Shawn Michaels. 685 00:28:56,192 --> 00:28:59,571 โ€ See, one without the other isn't any good. 686 00:28:59,654 --> 00:29:01,656 Oh! Oh, I knew he was gonna do that. 687 00:29:01,781 --> 00:29:04,117 I just knew he was gonna do that. 688 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,578 [overlapping chatter] 689 00:29:06,703 --> 00:29:09,122 Oh, my God! 690 00:29:09,205 --> 00:29:11,332 โ€ I would argue the Barbershop window 691 00:29:11,416 --> 00:29:13,918 was the greatest tag team breakup of all time. 692 00:29:14,002 --> 00:29:18,089 It is the standard bearer for turning on a friend. 693 00:29:18,173 --> 00:29:20,133 โ€ The super kick? Oh, he laid it in. 694 00:29:20,216 --> 00:29:23,553 [laughs] Oh, he got me back for Denver. 695 00:29:23,678 --> 00:29:25,013 [laughs] 696 00:29:25,138 --> 00:29:28,349 Is there a problem with the Rockers? 697 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:30,769 โ€ It was so effective 698 00:29:30,852 --> 00:29:36,316 that it makes Shawn one of the most hated men in wrestling. 699 00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:39,903 Shawn Michaels changed forever that day. 700 00:29:44,365 --> 00:29:48,244 โ€ I had this strange thing with Marty, 701 00:29:48,369 --> 00:29:51,164 because without him, 702 00:29:51,247 --> 00:29:55,668 so much of the good doesn't happen for me. 703 00:29:55,794 --> 00:29:58,588 But there's a ceiling on being a tag team, period, 704 00:29:58,671 --> 00:30:03,134 when it's called a leading man as opposed to a leading duo. 705 00:30:03,218 --> 00:30:05,178 It's just a natural evolution. 706 00:30:05,261 --> 00:30:07,096 Now everybody is gonna find out 707 00:30:07,180 --> 00:30:10,141 what Shawn Michaels has known all along, 708 00:30:10,266 --> 00:30:11,601 that he is, without a doubt, 709 00:30:11,684 --> 00:30:13,978 the hottest thing in the WWE 710 00:30:14,062 --> 00:30:16,481 has ever, ever laid eyes on. 711 00:30:16,564 --> 00:30:19,692 [rock music playing] 712 00:30:19,776 --> 00:30:22,487 โ™ช 713 00:30:22,570 --> 00:30:25,365 โ€ The Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels, was something 714 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:28,159 that Shawn just pretty much came up with. 715 00:30:28,284 --> 00:30:31,496 I don't think that anybody really mapped out 716 00:30:31,579 --> 00:30:33,623 The Heartbreak Kid. 717 00:30:33,706 --> 00:30:38,461 โ€ It's sort of an Elvis meets Freddie Mercury. 718 00:30:38,545 --> 00:30:42,632 โ€ Shawn Michaels is leavin' the building! 719 00:30:42,715 --> 00:30:48,137 โ€ It was allowing me a vehicle to let this other person out. 720 00:30:48,263 --> 00:30:50,036 To get out there in front of a bunch of people 721 00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:54,143 and you canโ€โ€wow, you can just be somebody you've never been. 722 00:30:54,269 --> 00:30:55,812 โ€ Has this guy got it all or what? 723 00:30:55,937 --> 00:30:58,064 No, I don't know where all that came from, 724 00:30:58,189 --> 00:30:59,566 I really don't. 725 00:30:59,691 --> 00:31:01,943 He figured Shawn Michaels could do whatever he wanted to. 726 00:31:02,026 --> 00:31:04,362 What, an alter ego maybe. 727 00:31:04,487 --> 00:31:07,156 The Kentucky waterfall mullet alone, 728 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,077 probably one of the greatest mullets of all time. 729 00:31:11,202 --> 00:31:14,998 The dangling earrings, the Village People outfit. 730 00:31:15,081 --> 00:31:16,332 Your girlfriend wants him, 731 00:31:16,457 --> 00:31:18,001 you're gonna go over and kick his ass, 732 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:21,337 but maybe he's gonna kick yours and take her anyway. 733 00:31:21,462 --> 00:31:23,923 And that's where his heat was. 734 00:31:24,007 --> 00:31:25,174 โ€ I was a pretty kid. 735 00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,927 I was a pretty man, I don't mind telling you, at one time. 736 00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:30,513 I could play the part of Mr. Confident 737 00:31:30,638 --> 00:31:31,764 and everything else, 738 00:31:31,848 --> 00:31:33,121 and could do everything under the sun. 739 00:31:33,141 --> 00:31:34,309 Couldn't do a lick. 740 00:31:34,392 --> 00:31:37,020 Elvis and Freddie Mercury were onstage, 741 00:31:37,145 --> 00:31:40,273 they were so frickin' positive, 742 00:31:40,356 --> 00:31:42,859 but in their lives they struggled. 743 00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:45,486 There was something there between me 744 00:31:45,570 --> 00:31:48,156 and those individuals that I could relate to. 745 00:31:48,239 --> 00:31:49,721 You are not comfortable with who you are, 746 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:51,367 you're not comfortable with yourself. 747 00:31:51,492 --> 00:31:53,912 Not knowing who I was as a human being, 748 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:56,623 out there you're playing this role, 749 00:31:56,706 --> 00:32:01,294 but you can do it with just unbridled confidence 750 00:32:01,419 --> 00:32:03,546 and you absolutely cannot do it 751 00:32:03,671 --> 00:32:06,215 by yourself in your own hotel room. 752 00:32:06,341 --> 00:32:07,425 I am a highโ€performance, 753 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:09,135 stateโ€ofโ€theโ€art wrestling machine. 754 00:32:09,177 --> 00:32:12,805 โ€ I think any great character will be confused 755 00:32:12,889 --> 00:32:15,016 between the human being and the character, 756 00:32:15,141 --> 00:32:19,562 and Shawn Hickenbottom kinda morphed into the Heartbreak Kid 757 00:32:19,687 --> 00:32:20,897 at all times. 758 00:32:20,980 --> 00:32:23,483 Shawn was becoming a little bit more difficult. 759 00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:24,766 And the Intercontinental title 760 00:32:24,859 --> 00:32:27,737 is coming to the sexiest man, hey. 761 00:32:27,862 --> 00:32:30,490 โ€ The WWE was still the land of the giants, 762 00:32:30,573 --> 00:32:32,492 and there were still a lot of big guys, 763 00:32:32,617 --> 00:32:34,494 and Shawn wanted to break through 764 00:32:34,619 --> 00:32:36,579 what he considered a glass ceiling of, 765 00:32:36,704 --> 00:32:40,500 "I'm not sixโ€footโ€eight, I'm not 300 pounds. 766 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:45,463 I wanna be what I am, and I wanna be the guy." 767 00:32:45,546 --> 00:32:47,465 โ€ When you are that talented 768 00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:50,510 and that hellโ€bent on succeeding, 769 00:32:50,635 --> 00:32:53,012 but you have the chip on your shoulder 770 00:32:53,137 --> 00:32:54,222 of being the little guy 771 00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:55,264 to get to where he needed to be, 772 00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:56,428 he had to stand his ground, 773 00:32:56,474 --> 00:32:57,892 he had to fight for what he wanted. 774 00:32:58,017 --> 00:32:59,936 โ€ I was at the very least as good 775 00:33:00,019 --> 00:33:02,397 or better than, you know, anybody else 776 00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:04,357 that I was sharing a locker room with. 777 00:33:04,482 --> 00:33:05,650 I was getting an opportunity 778 00:33:05,733 --> 00:33:07,694 that not many guys like me were gonna get. 779 00:33:07,819 --> 00:33:10,488 โ€ We got a new Intercontinental Champion! 780 00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:12,699 โ€ Shawn may have been sixโ€one, 781 00:33:12,824 --> 00:33:15,118 but his ego and the chip on his shoulder 782 00:33:15,201 --> 00:33:16,577 made him nineโ€footโ€five. 783 00:33:16,661 --> 00:33:17,954 โ€ Shawn Michaels, 784 00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:20,039 he's our Intercontinental Champion! 785 00:33:20,123 --> 00:33:21,791 โ€ '92โ€'93, 786 00:33:21,874 --> 00:33:24,210 Intercontinental Champion at the time, 787 00:33:24,335 --> 00:33:26,212 looking for Shawn to really step up 788 00:33:26,337 --> 00:33:28,589 and become a huge star for us. 789 00:33:28,673 --> 00:33:29,757 โ€ One thing I did have 790 00:33:29,841 --> 00:33:31,968 is I wasn't scared of anything. 791 00:33:32,051 --> 00:33:34,387 I was the most dangerous person in the world 792 00:33:34,512 --> 00:33:36,014 'cause I had nothing to lose. 793 00:33:36,139 --> 00:33:39,642 And when you are like that in a creative line of work, 794 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:43,688 you are frickin' unbeatable. 795 00:33:43,813 --> 00:33:47,525 โ€ Welcome to WrestleMania 10! 796 00:33:47,650 --> 00:33:49,694 [cheers and applause] 797 00:33:49,819 --> 00:33:52,905 โ€ In the process of studying Shawn Michael's matches, 798 00:33:53,031 --> 00:33:55,408 the one that many people go back to 799 00:33:55,533 --> 00:33:56,909 is the infamous ladder match. 800 00:33:57,035 --> 00:34:00,413 The match that Shawn Michaels and Razor Ramone made famous 801 00:34:00,538 --> 00:34:01,873 at WrestleMania 10. 802 00:34:01,998 --> 00:34:03,624 โ€ We are making history here. 803 00:34:03,708 --> 00:34:06,502 โ€ So right before WrestleMania 10, leading up, 804 00:34:06,627 --> 00:34:08,087 there was a suspension with Shawn, 805 00:34:08,171 --> 00:34:10,715 where Shawn had been out of the company for a while. 806 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,843 Shawn left as the Intercontinental Champion. 807 00:34:13,968 --> 00:34:16,679 โ€ Yeah, he failed a drug test for 'roids. 808 00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,473 At that time, brother, 809 00:34:18,556 --> 00:34:20,433 pills were bein' passed around in bars. 810 00:34:20,516 --> 00:34:21,434 Like, guys go, "Here, man. 811 00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:23,311 Canadian Valium, here take this." 812 00:34:23,352 --> 00:34:25,229 โ€ Shawn did not feel 813 00:34:25,354 --> 00:34:28,649 that he should have been suspended, was pissed off. 814 00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:30,735 Vince didn't wanna put up with him, 815 00:34:30,860 --> 00:34:33,154 thought he was an out of control egomaniac. 816 00:34:33,279 --> 00:34:35,656 โ€ And they'd tell Shawn to send the belt back 817 00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,618 and he says, "No, I'm not sending it back." 818 00:34:38,701 --> 00:34:41,037 โ€ Shawn decides he wants to come back. 819 00:34:41,162 --> 00:34:43,039 Well, Razor's the Intercontinental Champion. 820 00:34:43,122 --> 00:34:45,374 โ€ So take both championship belts, 821 00:34:45,458 --> 00:34:46,584 hang 'em above the ring, 822 00:34:46,667 --> 00:34:48,753 you fight to climb the ladder, 823 00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:50,838 whoever gets the championships above the ring, 824 00:34:50,963 --> 00:34:52,590 that's your true champion. 825 00:34:52,673 --> 00:34:54,233 โ€ The two Intercontinental Championship 826 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:56,719 belts hanging from above. 827 00:34:56,844 --> 00:34:59,180 โ€ For the following contest, 828 00:34:59,305 --> 00:35:01,891 there are no rules! 829 00:35:02,016 --> 00:35:04,143 โ€ With the ladder up. Oh! 830 00:35:04,268 --> 00:35:06,813 [cheers and applause] 831 00:35:06,896 --> 00:35:08,481 โ€ From high above! 832 00:35:08,606 --> 00:35:09,649 Oh! โ€ Oh! 833 00:35:09,774 --> 00:35:12,777 It's the most barbaric, insane, 834 00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:15,488 car crash excitement you've ever seen. 835 00:35:15,571 --> 00:35:17,490 โ€ It's starting to shake! Oh, no! 836 00:35:17,573 --> 00:35:18,866 โ€ Oh! 837 00:35:18,991 --> 00:35:21,494 โ€ I was able to have a presence 838 00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:24,247 that I don't think they knew that I had. 839 00:35:24,372 --> 00:35:27,125 It isn't about size, it is about presence. 840 00:35:27,208 --> 00:35:29,377 [cheers and applause] 841 00:35:29,502 --> 00:35:30,962 โ€ Oh! Oh! 842 00:35:31,087 --> 00:35:33,548 โ€ Shawn actually lost the match, 843 00:35:33,631 --> 00:35:36,134 but it put Shawn at a different level 844 00:35:36,217 --> 00:35:38,511 that people believed 845 00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:40,763 this little bastard could do anything. 846 00:35:40,847 --> 00:35:44,100 [cheers and applause] 847 00:35:44,183 --> 00:35:49,522 If you didn't before, or you didn't want to believe, 848 00:35:49,647 --> 00:35:57,196 Shawn made you believe. 849 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,574 [thuds] 850 00:35:59,699 --> 00:36:01,305 โ€ Should close it and just drop it to the side. 851 00:36:01,325 --> 00:36:03,661 Boom and then you say, "Okay, mister, here we go." 852 00:36:03,744 --> 00:36:04,912 You know, whatever. 853 00:36:05,037 --> 00:36:06,677 I don't know, just throwing it out there. 854 00:36:06,789 --> 00:36:09,834 This weekend, we have one of our bigger events. 855 00:36:09,959 --> 00:36:11,335 Fiveโ€man ladder match. 856 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:12,545 Is that gonna... 857 00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:14,026 Someone will be holding that right there. 858 00:36:14,046 --> 00:36:17,300 Many, many years ago, it was just two of us 859 00:36:17,383 --> 00:36:18,801 and one ladder. 860 00:36:18,926 --> 00:36:20,283 And now, these young men and women 861 00:36:20,303 --> 00:36:22,138 have taken it to a whole nother level. 862 00:36:22,221 --> 00:36:23,848 Got a lot of moving parts around here. 863 00:36:23,931 --> 00:36:26,893 โ€ I always dreamed of being in a ladder match 864 00:36:26,976 --> 00:36:28,644 obviously because of Shawn and Razor. 865 00:36:28,686 --> 00:36:30,646 [thuds] 866 00:36:30,688 --> 00:36:35,401 Ladder matches are about crazy stunts, big falls, 867 00:36:35,526 --> 00:36:36,674 it's a car crash come to life. 868 00:36:36,694 --> 00:36:38,654 He is the face of the ladder match 869 00:36:38,696 --> 00:36:40,136 and to have him kind of help us out, 870 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:42,658 have him kinda watch over us, you can't dream it up. 871 00:36:42,742 --> 00:36:44,327 It's perfect. 872 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:47,079 There you go. 873 00:36:49,332 --> 00:36:51,876 [cheers and applause] 874 00:36:52,001 --> 00:36:55,213 โ€I met him in the locker room, 1993, 875 00:36:55,338 --> 00:36:56,631 and wanted to know 876 00:36:56,756 --> 00:36:59,634 if I'd be interested in becoming his bodyguard. 877 00:36:59,717 --> 00:37:02,178 And the first thing out of Shawn's mouth is, 878 00:37:02,261 --> 00:37:05,932 "Just so you know, everybody hates us." 879 00:37:06,015 --> 00:37:08,768 The bodyguard position was 24/7. 880 00:37:08,851 --> 00:37:11,938 It wasn't just on television persona, 881 00:37:12,021 --> 00:37:14,148 a lot of people didn't like him. 882 00:37:14,232 --> 00:37:16,984 โ€ Shawn Michaels was misunderstood 883 00:37:17,026 --> 00:37:18,486 all throughout his career. 884 00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,071 There was a certain perception 885 00:37:20,154 --> 00:37:21,948 that he was an ass[bleep], frankly. 886 00:37:22,031 --> 00:37:23,741 Shawn was selfish. 887 00:37:23,866 --> 00:37:25,952 Shawn did have an out of control ego, 888 00:37:26,035 --> 00:37:27,495 and Shawn did feel that he 889 00:37:27,578 --> 00:37:28,913 was better than everybody else. 890 00:37:29,038 --> 00:37:33,251 To be successful and to take it to the next level, 891 00:37:33,334 --> 00:37:35,753 you have to start looking out for yourself. 892 00:37:35,836 --> 00:37:37,964 It's not a team sport. 893 00:37:38,047 --> 00:37:40,049 โ€ The one thing that was the saving grace for Shawn 894 00:37:40,174 --> 00:37:44,637 was he was so good in the ring. 895 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,240 As a performer, if you work with a guy 896 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:48,099 that makes you look that good, 897 00:37:48,182 --> 00:37:49,642 I don't care what you think of him, 898 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:51,352 you want to work with him. 899 00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:54,981 โ€ Shawn Michaels, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, 900 00:37:55,064 --> 00:37:58,150 1โ€2โ€3 Kid, and then Paul LeVesque, Triple H. 901 00:37:58,234 --> 00:38:00,653 these were guys that loved hanging out together 902 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:06,367 and hence the Kliq began to form. 903 00:38:06,492 --> 00:38:08,911 โ€ We all just hit it off, and then it wasโ€โ€you know, weโ€โ€ 904 00:38:09,036 --> 00:38:10,851 All we did was talk nonโ€stop about the business and, 905 00:38:10,871 --> 00:38:14,250 you know, we were all just so passionate about it. 906 00:38:14,375 --> 00:38:15,606 โ€ The perception was that the Kliq 907 00:38:15,626 --> 00:38:17,586 was allโ€knowing and allโ€powerful, 908 00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:19,839 and that if you crossed the Kliq, 909 00:38:19,922 --> 00:38:21,487 they'll just go Vince and you'll be blackballed. 910 00:38:21,507 --> 00:38:23,384 โ€ They couldn't call any of the shots, 911 00:38:23,509 --> 00:38:26,929 but I listened, and they had some really good ideas. 912 00:38:27,013 --> 00:38:28,848 Really smart, individually. 913 00:38:28,973 --> 00:38:31,809 And Shawn's very smart when he's sober. 914 00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:34,854 Shawn had an attitude, 915 00:38:34,937 --> 00:38:37,898 when he drank even more so on top of pills 916 00:38:38,024 --> 00:38:39,275 and Shawn would say, 917 00:38:39,358 --> 00:38:42,320 you know, the wrong thing at the wrong time. 918 00:38:42,361 --> 00:38:45,156 And he was protected in a WB environment. 919 00:38:45,281 --> 00:38:49,869 You know, but outside that environmentโ€โ€ 920 00:38:49,994 --> 00:38:51,495 โ€ Shawn Michaels, British Bulldog, 921 00:38:51,620 --> 00:38:53,331 1โ€2โ€3 Kid walk into a bar. 922 00:38:53,414 --> 00:38:56,542 Me, Scott, and Kev were in Europe. 923 00:38:56,625 --> 00:38:58,919 It was where we find out that this all happened. 924 00:38:59,003 --> 00:39:00,963 Bunch of Marines in a tough bar. 925 00:39:01,047 --> 00:39:04,508 Every eye in that place turns to the three wrestlers 926 00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:05,885 that just walked in the door, 927 00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:08,262 of which Shawn is the megastar. 928 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,973 Every girl in that place starts to look at Shawn, 929 00:39:11,098 --> 00:39:13,017 Shawn is very enamored with that, 930 00:39:13,142 --> 00:39:14,665 and Shawn is at this point in his life, 931 00:39:14,685 --> 00:39:18,773 like, "[bleep] you lookin' at? Is there a problem, jarhead?" 932 00:39:18,856 --> 00:39:20,775 They go to walk out, six Marines walk out, 933 00:39:20,858 --> 00:39:22,026 beat the [bleep] out of Shawn 934 00:39:22,151 --> 00:39:25,154 and leave him in the side of the car. 935 00:39:25,237 --> 00:39:26,989 โ€ And the last thing I can remember is, 936 00:39:27,114 --> 00:39:28,741 you know, there being the coat check. 937 00:39:28,866 --> 00:39:32,078 The next thing is waking up in the hospital. 938 00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:36,540 And everything else is a complete blank. 939 00:39:36,665 --> 00:39:38,209 That was four days 940 00:39:38,334 --> 00:39:41,837 out of a seven day week, situations like that. 941 00:39:41,962 --> 00:39:44,215 Getting beat up by nine guys in Syracuse, 942 00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:45,738 to me, there's not a whole lot of shame in. 943 00:39:45,758 --> 00:39:48,928 You know, that kind of stuff just sort of happens to me. 944 00:39:49,011 --> 00:39:50,221 I've got two choicesโ€โ€ 945 00:39:50,304 --> 00:39:52,932 sit home and cry, or to come out and be a pain. 946 00:39:53,015 --> 00:39:56,143 And I got news for you, folks, I'm all cried out. 947 00:39:56,268 --> 00:39:57,353 โ€ This moment of existence 948 00:39:57,478 --> 00:39:59,772 was the 20 minutes in the ring every night. 949 00:39:59,855 --> 00:40:01,524 He wouldn't be messed up. 950 00:40:01,607 --> 00:40:03,255 He'd go in there and he'd kill it every night, 951 00:40:03,275 --> 00:40:05,569 and then the second he was doneโ€โ€ 952 00:40:05,694 --> 00:40:07,363 [clicks tongue] 953 00:40:07,446 --> 00:40:09,990 "I'm in pain, and I took some stuff, 954 00:40:10,074 --> 00:40:11,951 "so I wouldn't be in pain this morning, 955 00:40:12,034 --> 00:40:13,244 but I'm messed up." 956 00:40:13,327 --> 00:40:15,162 Why would you hang out with this misery 24/7? 957 00:40:15,204 --> 00:40:17,248 No, it's not. It's again like your brother. 958 00:40:17,373 --> 00:40:19,250 It's like a family member. 959 00:40:19,375 --> 00:40:21,293 Shawn owes his life to Triple H, 960 00:40:21,377 --> 00:40:24,547 Paul Leveque, owes his life to him. 961 00:40:24,672 --> 00:40:25,965 โ€ Shawn Michaels knows 962 00:40:26,090 --> 00:40:28,926 that the greatest match of his life 963 00:40:29,009 --> 00:40:31,804 must come this Sunday night. 964 00:40:31,929 --> 00:40:34,306 By the time you get to the midโ€90s, 965 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:36,684 Bret Hart has become a crowd favorite. 966 00:40:36,809 --> 00:40:41,313 Bret is a very softโ€spoken, quiet, Canadian gentleman. 967 00:40:41,439 --> 00:40:45,276 Shawn is an outspoken, loud, brash American. 968 00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:49,447 Only one person can be the absolute alpha dog. 969 00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:53,117 The Iron Man match, the boyhood dream realized, 970 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:57,872 it added another layer to the Shawn Michaels character. 971 00:40:57,997 --> 00:40:58,998 โ€ The Iron Man match, 972 00:40:59,123 --> 00:41:00,833 it's the opportunity where I get to, 973 00:41:00,958 --> 00:41:03,419 you know, get my first world championship. 974 00:41:03,502 --> 00:41:06,297 โ€ There's only one Heartbreak Kid! 975 00:41:06,338 --> 00:41:10,718 Unbelievable, what a ride! 976 00:41:10,843 --> 00:41:12,511 โ€ An hourโ€long match, 977 00:41:12,595 --> 00:41:15,306 it's gonna be a long night at the office, in wrestling terms. 978 00:41:15,431 --> 00:41:19,894 โ€ For the WWE Championship! 979 00:41:20,019 --> 00:41:21,979 โ€ We start to have our issues. 980 00:41:22,104 --> 00:41:25,149 You know, I was never big on the Kliq idea. 981 00:41:25,232 --> 00:41:27,610 It was a testy match in a lot of ways. 982 00:41:27,693 --> 00:41:29,778 โ€ Hart's in big trouble. 983 00:41:29,862 --> 00:41:31,906 [cheers and applause] 984 00:41:32,031 --> 00:41:33,699 โ€ There was a famous part 985 00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:35,159 where I jump off the second rope. 986 00:41:35,284 --> 00:41:36,785 [groans] 987 00:41:36,869 --> 00:41:39,163 He comes up and kicks me in the face 988 00:41:39,205 --> 00:41:40,372 as hard as he could. 989 00:41:40,498 --> 00:41:41,770 I mean, he almost knocked me out. 990 00:41:41,790 --> 00:41:43,000 โ€ Oh, my goodness! 991 00:41:43,083 --> 00:41:44,899 We stiff each other a lot of times in that match. 992 00:41:44,919 --> 00:41:47,713 [cheering and chatter] 993 00:41:47,838 --> 00:41:50,799 โ€ One, two, out! 994 00:41:50,925 --> 00:41:53,469 [bell dings] 995 00:41:53,594 --> 00:41:57,932 โ€ The boyhood dream has come true! 996 00:41:58,015 --> 00:41:59,558 โ€ The boyhood dream has come true, 997 00:41:59,683 --> 00:42:03,145 because that was Shawn's boyhood dream, it was. 998 00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:05,356 And that's exactly what happened. 999 00:42:05,439 --> 00:42:08,108 โ€ It was a very big moment for my career. 1000 00:42:08,192 --> 00:42:10,236 It's like, oh, it's the first World Championship 1001 00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:12,488 and you go like, "Hmm, I pictured it being different." 1002 00:42:12,571 --> 00:42:15,324 I wasn't at a good place and all that kinda stuff. 1003 00:42:15,449 --> 00:42:18,577 Just a lot of responsibility that goes with that. 1004 00:42:18,702 --> 00:42:20,746 Now every guy in that locker room, their wellโ€being, 1005 00:42:20,871 --> 00:42:24,833 their life, you know, their livelihood and all that 1006 00:42:24,917 --> 00:42:27,002 depends on the job that you do. 1007 00:42:27,127 --> 00:42:30,172 You know, it all falls on your shoulders. 1008 00:42:30,256 --> 00:42:31,799 The whole thing was uncomfortable. 1009 00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:38,389 โ€ As we got into 1996, Ted Turner, who owned WCW, 1010 00:42:38,472 --> 00:42:42,142 our competitors, was being very aggressive 1011 00:42:42,184 --> 00:42:45,980 in his quest for new talent. 1012 00:42:46,105 --> 00:42:48,232 Scott Hall and Kevin Nash, 1013 00:42:48,357 --> 00:42:53,112 they were going to leave and go to Ted Turner's WCW. 1014 00:42:53,195 --> 00:42:55,322 The last matches being 1015 00:42:55,447 --> 00:42:59,118 in New York in Madison Square Garden. 1016 00:42:59,201 --> 00:43:01,870 โ€ On my 19th, 1996, 1017 00:43:01,954 --> 00:43:04,623 one of the greatest days of wrestling, 1018 00:43:04,707 --> 00:43:06,333 and my life as well. 1019 00:43:06,458 --> 00:43:09,044 Me and my friend went to a house show 1020 00:43:09,169 --> 00:43:10,462 which was not televised, 1021 00:43:10,588 --> 00:43:12,381 we would sneak in a camera past security 1022 00:43:12,464 --> 00:43:15,009 and we would film the shows. 1023 00:43:15,092 --> 00:43:18,887 Shawn was my hero and was my idol growing up. 1024 00:43:18,971 --> 00:43:20,431 [audience cheering] 1025 00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:22,057 The ending shows Shawn Michaels 1026 00:43:22,182 --> 00:43:23,767 giving Diesel a super kick. 1027 00:43:23,851 --> 00:43:26,145 Match is over. 1028 00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:28,731 And then all of a sudden Razor Ramon comes out. 1029 00:43:28,856 --> 00:43:30,316 I'm like, "Oh, cool." 1030 00:43:30,399 --> 00:43:32,985 They start hugging and I'm screaming like a little girl. 1031 00:43:33,068 --> 00:43:34,570 Oh, my God! 1032 00:43:34,695 --> 00:43:35,863 Who's this? 1033 00:43:35,946 --> 00:43:37,636 And it turns out to be Hunter Hurst Helmsley. 1034 00:43:37,656 --> 00:43:40,743 They all start hugging and, you know, obviously saying goodbye. 1035 00:43:40,868 --> 00:43:43,829 It was insane. That night was magical. 1036 00:43:43,871 --> 00:43:46,165 Yeah! 1037 00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:47,666 The business was well protected 1038 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:51,170 up until then, and our cameras still kept going. 1039 00:43:51,253 --> 00:43:53,172 The only camera that was there. 1040 00:43:53,255 --> 00:43:56,133 If we were not involved in taping the curtain call, 1041 00:43:56,216 --> 00:43:59,887 it would not be talked about as much today. 1042 00:44:00,012 --> 00:44:01,639 โ€ Place is going insane. 1043 00:44:01,722 --> 00:44:04,058 Everybody knows everything on the inside of the business. 1044 00:44:04,183 --> 00:44:05,517 There's no secrets. 1045 00:44:05,643 --> 00:44:07,207 โ€ People in the business didn't like it. 1046 00:44:07,227 --> 00:44:09,730 They thought it was the worst thing that happened. 1047 00:44:09,855 --> 00:44:12,066 Here's this bad guy, who we have no idea 1048 00:44:12,191 --> 00:44:14,485 is friends with all these other guys. 1049 00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:16,862 โ€ It's breaking the fourth wall 1050 00:44:16,987 --> 00:44:18,364 and just telling people, 1051 00:44:18,447 --> 00:44:19,887 "Everything we just did is bull [bleep]." 1052 00:44:19,907 --> 00:44:23,327 Shawn Michaels is now hugging and kissing the guy 1053 00:44:23,410 --> 00:44:26,497 that he's just spent 20 minutes beating the hell out of. 1054 00:44:26,538 --> 00:44:28,103 We entertained you, but now it's all over, 1055 00:44:28,123 --> 00:44:31,710 we're really good buddies. Taboo in the wrestling business. 1056 00:44:31,835 --> 00:44:35,214 โ€ The tape was leaked out to a writer. 1057 00:44:35,339 --> 00:44:37,424 The tape blows up on its own. 1058 00:44:37,508 --> 00:44:39,343 โ€ I had no idea that was gonna happen. 1059 00:44:39,426 --> 00:44:42,346 It was something that's never been done before. 1060 00:44:42,429 --> 00:44:47,101 I'm watching this and going, "What the hell is going on?" 1061 00:44:47,184 --> 00:44:49,603 The Kliq was an insult to our business. 1062 00:44:49,687 --> 00:44:51,772 If they had done that in the '70s, early '80s, 1063 00:44:51,855 --> 00:44:54,108 they'd all four of them get the [bleep] beat out of 'em. 1064 00:44:54,191 --> 00:44:58,362 They wrestle each other and they all kiss and say goodbye. 1065 00:44:58,445 --> 00:45:00,280 โ€ Somebody's gotta go down for it. 1066 00:45:00,364 --> 00:45:03,492 Kev's gone, Scott's gone, Shawn's the champ. 1067 00:45:03,575 --> 00:45:08,997 Stuff rolls downhill and, yeah, it all rolled on me. 1068 00:45:09,081 --> 00:45:10,666 โ€ Triple H is the one 1069 00:45:10,749 --> 00:45:13,836 that probably paid the heaviest price 1070 00:45:13,961 --> 00:45:15,796 as far as his career 1071 00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:18,924 kind of hitting a roadblock at that point. 1072 00:45:19,007 --> 00:45:20,634 Shawn didn't really pay a price. 1073 00:45:20,718 --> 00:45:23,137 โ€ I was inherently selfish regardless, 1074 00:45:23,262 --> 00:45:27,975 so I'm sure I didn't feel the compassion for him, 1075 00:45:28,058 --> 00:45:32,688 as maybe I should have. 1076 00:45:32,813 --> 00:45:35,190 โ€ There was a bit of a shutdown on Shawn. 1077 00:45:35,315 --> 00:45:38,152 Business isโ€โ€it's okay, but it's not great. 1078 00:45:38,235 --> 00:45:39,508 You know, there's a lot of banter 1079 00:45:39,528 --> 00:45:41,947 about Shawn's not working as champion. 1080 00:45:42,030 --> 00:45:43,824 He's not drawing. 1081 00:45:43,907 --> 00:45:46,034 He's collapsing under the pressure. 1082 00:45:46,118 --> 00:45:47,995 I can see him falling apart. 1083 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,665 Kevin and Scott are gone, and I'm all he's got now. 1084 00:45:51,749 --> 00:45:52,916 He's a mess. 1085 00:45:53,041 --> 00:45:56,253 โ€ I felt a lot of pressure and I didn't handle it well. 1086 00:45:56,336 --> 00:45:58,172 For me, it was all about 1087 00:45:58,255 --> 00:46:00,090 running and escaping, and honestly, 1088 00:46:00,174 --> 00:46:01,592 you know, there was running 1089 00:46:01,675 --> 00:46:03,635 and escaping from the dude I'd become. 1090 00:46:03,761 --> 00:46:05,554 Better than having to face that, 1091 00:46:05,637 --> 00:46:08,849 I might just take a few of these and knock myself out. 1092 00:46:08,932 --> 00:46:11,310 Won't have to pay attention to it till tomorrow. 1093 00:46:11,393 --> 00:46:13,020 โ€ He'd be pilled up, passed out, 1094 00:46:13,145 --> 00:46:16,732 put Shawn on a luggage cart and roll him up to his room, 1095 00:46:16,815 --> 00:46:19,359 and get him undressed, take the dip out of his mouth, 1096 00:46:19,485 --> 00:46:20,966 and put him on his side, put a pillow behind him 1097 00:46:20,986 --> 00:46:23,010 so he wouldn't roll over and choke to death in his sleep. 1098 00:46:23,030 --> 00:46:25,824 And set an alarm and get up every two, three hours 1099 00:46:25,908 --> 00:46:27,075 to go check on him. 1100 00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:28,702 And that was every night. 1101 00:46:28,786 --> 00:46:32,706 Well, you know, every night? Sad existence. 1102 00:46:37,127 --> 00:46:39,171 [cheers and applause] 1103 00:46:39,296 --> 00:46:41,465 โ€ What everybody has to understand 1104 00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,801 about Shawn Michaels is thisโ€โ€ 1105 00:46:43,842 --> 00:46:45,135 If I wanna come out here 1106 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:49,139 and look like a blithering idiot on live TV, 1107 00:46:49,181 --> 00:46:51,350 believe me, I'm gonna do it. 1108 00:46:51,433 --> 00:46:54,728 Why? Because I can. 1109 00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:57,272 โ€ He had a drug problem for a while, 1110 00:46:57,356 --> 00:46:58,816 a serious one, 1111 00:46:58,857 --> 00:47:03,111 and he kind of fell in the hole even deeper. 1112 00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:06,657 But it wasn't until he became champion 1113 00:47:06,740 --> 00:47:09,159 that I felt that Shawn, uh, 1114 00:47:09,284 --> 00:47:13,247 started to question himself. 1115 00:47:13,372 --> 00:47:15,499 โ€ I called his dad, the colonel, 1116 00:47:15,582 --> 00:47:17,417 and said, "I'd like to visit." 1117 00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:19,294 So I flew down to meet him 1118 00:47:19,419 --> 00:47:21,797 and I'm saying, "You're probably not aware of this, 1119 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:25,092 Shawn really has a drug problem." 1120 00:47:25,175 --> 00:47:26,552 The colonel got angry. 1121 00:47:26,677 --> 00:47:29,972 He just didn't want to hear it. 1122 00:47:30,097 --> 00:47:32,432 โ€ I don't know that anybody knew how to address it. 1123 00:47:32,516 --> 00:47:34,601 Even things like rehab, my parents, 1124 00:47:34,685 --> 00:47:35,811 you know, God love 'em, 1125 00:47:35,894 --> 00:47:38,397 I don't that they knew what it was that you did, 1126 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,731 except just to be worried. 1127 00:47:39,857 --> 00:47:42,943 Not long after that I tweaked my knee. 1128 00:47:43,026 --> 00:47:45,153 [cheers and applause] 1129 00:47:45,279 --> 00:47:46,822 I went to this dude in San Antonio 1130 00:47:46,905 --> 00:47:49,324 who doesn't know anything about wrestling, 1131 00:47:49,366 --> 00:47:50,826 and obviously sees I've torn my ACL 1132 00:47:50,868 --> 00:47:52,744 and he's like, "Dude, you're done." 1133 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:56,999 You know, he said, "You're not wrestling with a torn ACL." 1134 00:47:57,082 --> 00:48:00,544 I know that over the last several months, 1135 00:48:00,669 --> 00:48:02,462 I've lost a lot of things, 1136 00:48:02,546 --> 00:48:03,964 and one of them has been my smile. 1137 00:48:04,047 --> 00:48:07,134 โ€ He went in the ring to announce he was retiring 1138 00:48:07,217 --> 00:48:08,969 'cause he had a bad knee. 1139 00:48:09,052 --> 00:48:11,179 I didn't believe his knee was the issue. 1140 00:48:11,305 --> 00:48:13,098 I always thought the issue was 1141 00:48:13,181 --> 00:48:16,351 he didn't want to wrestle me at WrestleMania 13 1142 00:48:16,476 --> 00:48:17,936 and drop the belt to me. 1143 00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:22,024 I doubted Shawn's integrity as far as his injury went. 1144 00:48:22,149 --> 00:48:23,150 You phony little faker, 1145 00:48:23,275 --> 00:48:24,882 why don't you take your little pussyfoot injuryโ€โ€ 1146 00:48:24,902 --> 00:48:26,091 โ€ All right, all right, knock it off. 1147 00:48:26,111 --> 00:48:28,572 No, no, no. โ€ It's all right. 1148 00:48:28,697 --> 00:48:29,823 I'm not going anywhere. 1149 00:48:29,907 --> 00:48:31,491 โ€ And go back and find your smile. 1150 00:48:31,533 --> 00:48:32,910 โ€ I got accused of faking it. 1151 00:48:33,035 --> 00:48:34,475 Bret told everybody I was faking it. 1152 00:48:34,536 --> 00:48:38,332 My excuse is drug addicts lie all the time. 1153 00:48:38,373 --> 00:48:39,666 Well, there's no doubt 1154 00:48:39,708 --> 00:48:41,588 that you found your smile again as you stated... 1155 00:48:41,668 --> 00:48:43,295 โ€ A year off of the wrestling business 1156 00:48:43,378 --> 00:48:44,463 was a year of no pay. 1157 00:48:44,588 --> 00:48:47,633 That's just notโ€โ€ That isn't feasible. 1158 00:48:47,674 --> 00:48:49,843 And they said, "Well, look, you can put a brace on it 1159 00:48:49,968 --> 00:48:51,511 and wrap it up." 1160 00:48:51,637 --> 00:48:53,368 They went and they got me a brace and everything else. 1161 00:48:53,388 --> 00:48:55,515 I was like, "Okay, I can do this." 1162 00:48:55,599 --> 00:48:58,644 And it is time for the Heartbreak Kid, 1163 00:48:58,685 --> 00:49:01,480 Shawn Michaels to return to action! 1164 00:49:01,521 --> 00:49:02,898 [suspenseful music] 1165 00:49:03,023 --> 00:49:06,360 โ€This was a moment where things needed to change. 1166 00:49:06,443 --> 00:49:08,320 Business was bad. 1167 00:49:08,403 --> 00:49:09,821 WCW was starting to kill us. 1168 00:49:09,905 --> 00:49:11,615 Put Shawn and I together on TV. 1169 00:49:11,698 --> 00:49:15,243 We will multiply each other's personalities on screen. 1170 00:49:15,327 --> 00:49:17,996 Put us together. DX is born. 1171 00:49:18,121 --> 00:49:19,623 [hard rock music] 1172 00:49:19,706 --> 00:49:21,875 โ€ โ™ช Degenerate into something fool โ™ช 1173 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,795 โ™ช We just got tired of doing what you told us to do โ™ช 1174 00:49:24,878 --> 00:49:27,506 โ€ Degeneration X consisted of Shawn, 1175 00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:28,966 Triple H, and Chyna. 1176 00:49:29,091 --> 00:49:33,261 Two goofs in Shawn and Hunter that were immature, 1177 00:49:33,345 --> 00:49:36,640 and did everything that you weren't supposed to do. 1178 00:49:36,723 --> 00:49:38,767 โ€ Shawn Michaels, 1179 00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:41,395 you're a disgrace to professional wrestling. 1180 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,940 I saw it as inmates had taken over the asylum. 1181 00:49:45,023 --> 00:49:46,566 I'm gonna start with the degenerate 1182 00:49:46,692 --> 00:49:48,402 right beside you in the green shirt. 1183 00:49:48,485 --> 00:49:50,529 โ€ โ™ช Degeneration X 1184 00:49:50,612 --> 00:49:53,490 โ€ Suck it! [laughs] 1185 00:49:53,573 --> 00:49:55,492 โ€ Yeah, I can't say I liked it. 1186 00:49:55,575 --> 00:49:57,828 That smut and the crotch shots. 1187 00:49:57,911 --> 00:49:59,997 It did get pretty raunchy. 1188 00:50:00,038 --> 00:50:01,957 โ€ I don't think it was over the line. 1189 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:05,210 You know, we were getting our tails kicked in the ratings. 1190 00:50:05,293 --> 00:50:09,297 DX took it to the very, very tipping point 1191 00:50:09,423 --> 00:50:11,258 of going too far. 1192 00:50:11,341 --> 00:50:12,968 But that's what we needed. 1193 00:50:13,093 --> 00:50:16,930 It was kind of a whole facelift for the company. 1194 00:50:17,014 --> 00:50:18,014 They loved it. 1195 00:50:18,056 --> 00:50:19,705 Ratings are going up, your segments are hot. 1196 00:50:19,725 --> 00:50:20,809 We are the Degeneration X, 1197 00:50:20,892 --> 00:50:25,188 you make the rules, and we will break 'em! 1198 00:50:25,272 --> 00:50:26,523 โ€ They were the antiโ€authority. 1199 00:50:26,648 --> 00:50:28,150 They could do anything they wanted. 1200 00:50:28,275 --> 00:50:30,152 โ€ We were just trying to make each other laugh, 1201 00:50:30,235 --> 00:50:31,995 say something so stupid that people would go, 1202 00:50:32,029 --> 00:50:33,989 "Oh, my God, I can't believe he said that." 1203 00:50:34,072 --> 00:50:37,826 Your old lady is not too thrilled with your privates. 1204 00:50:37,909 --> 00:50:39,891 โ€ You would think, like, okay, so now everything's great 1205 00:50:39,911 --> 00:50:41,329 backstage with Shawn. No. 1206 00:50:41,455 --> 00:50:43,145 We're still approaching this from a place of anger. 1207 00:50:43,165 --> 00:50:44,791 We know we're pissing people off 1208 00:50:44,875 --> 00:50:46,960 and we're trying to be dicks. 1209 00:50:47,085 --> 00:50:49,171 โ€ I got in trouble for a lot of stuff 1210 00:50:49,254 --> 00:50:50,964 that we all thought was funny, 1211 00:50:51,048 --> 00:50:53,300 and clearly we might have been the only ones. 1212 00:50:53,383 --> 00:50:57,429 I'm goin' out in a blaze of glory! 1213 00:50:57,512 --> 00:50:59,097 [cheers and applause] 1214 00:50:59,181 --> 00:51:02,726 โ€ At that point, Shawn's DX personality 1215 00:51:02,851 --> 00:51:05,562 and his real personality have kind of morphed, 1216 00:51:05,687 --> 00:51:08,482 so Shawn really never turned it off. 1217 00:51:08,565 --> 00:51:10,817 โ€ This is what it's come down to, 1218 00:51:10,859 --> 00:51:11,985 they're looking at somebody 1219 00:51:12,110 --> 00:51:14,488 that's got no respect for anything. 1220 00:51:14,571 --> 00:51:17,407 โ€ There was a true animosity 1221 00:51:17,532 --> 00:51:18,909 between Bret and Shawn, 1222 00:51:19,034 --> 00:51:21,244 just spiraled completely out of control. 1223 00:51:21,369 --> 00:51:25,373 โ€ In the beginning, Shawn and Bret were friends 1224 00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:29,628 and the antagonistic relationship 1225 00:51:29,711 --> 00:51:34,091 that they had on camera, that was all orchestrated. 1226 00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:35,717 But it became personal. 1227 00:51:35,842 --> 00:51:38,261 It became personal between Bret and Shawn, 1228 00:51:38,345 --> 00:51:40,055 because one guy would go too far. 1229 00:51:40,138 --> 00:51:44,309 โ€ I never knew enough to avoid the confrontation. 1230 00:51:44,434 --> 00:51:46,686 If something bothered Bret, I made sure that I did it. 1231 00:51:46,812 --> 00:51:49,648 He stabbed the WWE in the back. 1232 00:51:49,731 --> 00:51:52,984 Why? For his financial gain. 1233 00:51:53,068 --> 00:51:55,028 โ€ Instead of facing me like a man, 1234 00:51:55,153 --> 00:51:58,698 but you were too busy posing for girlie magazines. 1235 00:51:58,824 --> 00:52:00,430 You know, you don't like me talking about you 1236 00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:03,662 posing for "Playgirl," but you did pose for "Playgirl." 1237 00:52:03,745 --> 00:52:07,833 And we finally had a fisticuff in the dressing room. 1238 00:52:07,916 --> 00:52:09,815 โ€ Oh, my God, Bret and Shawn just got into a fight 1239 00:52:09,835 --> 00:52:12,045 and pulled each other hair in the locker room. What? 1240 00:52:12,170 --> 00:52:13,630 I run over there and find Shawn, 1241 00:52:13,713 --> 00:52:15,173 he's got a big chunk of hair missing 1242 00:52:15,298 --> 00:52:16,613 out of the side of his head. "What are you doing?" 1243 00:52:16,633 --> 00:52:18,218 โ€ I realize that I hate your guts. 1244 00:52:18,301 --> 00:52:21,138 โ€ We had a lot of these resets and talks, 1245 00:52:21,179 --> 00:52:23,932 and we would always end up offending each other quickly 1246 00:52:24,015 --> 00:52:25,892 right after that. [laughs] 1247 00:52:29,062 --> 00:52:30,230 โ€ We are live 1248 00:52:30,313 --> 00:52:34,234 in the soldโ€out Molson Centre in Montrรฉal, Quebec, 1249 00:52:34,359 --> 00:52:38,613 where tonight, it will finally be settled. 1250 00:52:38,697 --> 00:52:41,366 Who is the man? 1251 00:52:41,491 --> 00:52:43,034 โ€ Bret is the champion, 1252 00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,787 but Bret's on his way to WCW, 1253 00:52:45,871 --> 00:52:49,958 and he doesn't wanna drop the title to Shawn. 1254 00:52:50,041 --> 00:52:53,128 But they couldn't let Bret leave with the title, 1255 00:52:53,253 --> 00:52:56,631 and then show up on WCW TV the next night. 1256 00:52:56,673 --> 00:52:59,426 โ€ Who's gonna win? 1257 00:52:59,509 --> 00:53:01,011 โ€ I don't know. 1258 00:53:01,094 --> 00:53:03,305 โ€ Bret thought the match was going to go one way, 1259 00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:07,684 Shawn and Vince McMahon come up with a different plan. 1260 00:53:07,809 --> 00:53:10,020 Bret doesn't know about the plan. 1261 00:53:10,145 --> 00:53:12,606 โ€ We're being told by Vince, 1262 00:53:12,689 --> 00:53:14,816 like, this goes to your grave. 1263 00:53:14,941 --> 00:53:18,403 This is highโ€level espionage, man. 1264 00:53:18,528 --> 00:53:20,322 Nobody ever knows this. 1265 00:53:20,363 --> 00:53:23,033 โ€ It's kind of what's best for business. 1266 00:53:23,158 --> 00:53:24,326 โ€ Look out! 1267 00:53:24,367 --> 00:53:26,203 Shawn Michaels is not gonna waste any time. 1268 00:53:26,286 --> 00:53:28,788 โ€ The whole thing was uncomfortable. 1269 00:53:28,872 --> 00:53:32,292 I was out there, you know, being Judas. 1270 00:53:32,375 --> 00:53:35,587 [dramatic music] 1271 00:53:35,670 --> 00:53:37,631 [groans] 1272 00:53:37,756 --> 00:53:39,007 โ€ They had created a spot 1273 00:53:39,132 --> 00:53:42,469 where Shawn was gonna put Bret's move, 1274 00:53:42,594 --> 00:53:46,598 which is a submission hold, the Sharpshooter, on Bret. 1275 00:53:46,681 --> 00:53:48,308 โ€ Look at this! 1276 00:53:48,391 --> 00:53:50,143 โ€ Oh, you're kidding me. 1277 00:53:50,227 --> 00:53:53,146 โ€ It's definitely one of the most fabled stories 1278 00:53:53,188 --> 00:53:54,481 in our industry. 1279 00:53:54,564 --> 00:53:56,107 The Montreal Screw Job. 1280 00:53:56,191 --> 00:53:58,985 โ€ It's just minutes into that match, 1281 00:53:59,069 --> 00:54:01,780 not one person on Planet Earth 1282 00:54:01,863 --> 00:54:04,783 thinks the match is going to end. 1283 00:54:04,866 --> 00:54:07,160 โ€ Are you kidding me? 1284 00:54:07,285 --> 00:54:09,996 [bell rings] 1285 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,833 [rock music playing] 1286 00:54:13,917 --> 00:54:16,169 โ€ So when, all of a sudden, the bell rings, 1287 00:54:16,294 --> 00:54:20,382 there's complete confusion as to why the match has ended. 1288 00:54:20,507 --> 00:54:21,800 โ€ What happened? 1289 00:54:21,883 --> 00:54:23,718 Bret Hart gave up in a Sharpshooter. 1290 00:54:23,843 --> 00:54:26,805 โ€ He said, "Bret submitted," which didn't happen. 1291 00:54:26,846 --> 00:54:29,933 โ€ Wow, you talk about controversy. 1292 00:54:30,016 --> 00:54:31,351 โ€ It was basically a hit 1293 00:54:31,434 --> 00:54:33,979 to make sure that they got the title off of Bret. 1294 00:54:34,062 --> 00:54:37,315 โ€ Ring the bell! Ring the bell! 1295 00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:39,776 โ€ I could see Vince yell at him to ring the bell. 1296 00:54:39,859 --> 00:54:42,070 โ€ Ring the bell! [bell rings] 1297 00:54:42,195 --> 00:54:43,835 โ€ Like, "They're trying to screw me now." 1298 00:54:43,905 --> 00:54:45,407 โ€ Michaels with a Sharpshooter 1299 00:54:45,490 --> 00:54:48,243 has become the WWE Champion! 1300 00:54:48,326 --> 00:54:52,831 And Bret Hart is standing in disbelief. 1301 00:54:52,914 --> 00:54:54,434 โ€ He didn't know Vince was coming out. 1302 00:54:54,499 --> 00:54:56,876 I think he just felt like maybe if he was out there, 1303 00:54:57,002 --> 00:54:58,295 he might get some heat off me, 1304 00:54:58,420 --> 00:55:02,048 you know, thus making my denial plausible. 1305 00:55:10,432 --> 00:55:13,226 Vince says, "I wanna take the heat for this. 1306 00:55:13,351 --> 00:55:14,144 "I don't want anyone to think 1307 00:55:14,227 --> 00:55:15,500 you had anything to do with it." 1308 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:16,730 โ€ Maybe you could go? 1309 00:55:16,813 --> 00:55:18,189 โ€ Okay, let's get outta here. 1310 00:55:18,315 --> 00:55:19,774 โ€ I took the heat, and should have. 1311 00:55:19,858 --> 00:55:23,153 I didn't want anyone to know Shawn was involved. 1312 00:55:23,236 --> 00:55:27,240 And Bret comes over and knocks the [bleep] outta me. 1313 00:55:27,324 --> 00:55:30,994 One punch, and knocked him out cold. 1314 00:55:31,077 --> 00:55:33,079 He went straight down on his back. 1315 00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:34,205 Out cold. 1316 00:55:34,331 --> 00:55:38,543 And after I knocked Vince out, 1317 00:55:38,668 --> 00:55:40,211 Shawn was crying. 1318 00:55:40,337 --> 00:55:42,964 Shawn was sat on the bench and was crying. 1319 00:55:43,089 --> 00:55:44,329 โ€ And even though I didn't feel 1320 00:55:44,382 --> 00:55:46,134 like I did anything wrong that night, 1321 00:55:46,217 --> 00:55:50,388 you're still carrying a burden by not coming clean with that. 1322 00:55:50,513 --> 00:55:52,682 To say, "Yes, I knew." 1323 00:55:52,807 --> 00:55:54,934 โ€ Vince asked Shawn to do something 1324 00:55:55,018 --> 00:55:56,853 for everyone in this company. 1325 00:55:56,978 --> 00:55:58,897 Who else would have had the balls, 1326 00:55:59,022 --> 00:56:02,150 the guts, right or wrong, 1327 00:56:02,233 --> 00:56:04,527 how many other people would have done it? 1328 00:56:09,366 --> 00:56:12,243 โ€ I remember going to his house in San Antonio, 1329 00:56:12,369 --> 00:56:13,808 and I'm driving my minivan down there. 1330 00:56:13,828 --> 00:56:14,851 I've got my wife and three kids at home, 1331 00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:17,832 and I pull into his gorgeous home. 1332 00:56:17,916 --> 00:56:19,793 I don't have 20 bucks in my pocket. 1333 00:56:19,918 --> 00:56:21,127 And I'll never forget, 1334 00:56:21,252 --> 00:56:24,089 he put his arms out like this, and he just looked up 1335 00:56:24,172 --> 00:56:27,467 and he goes, "You could have had all this." 1336 00:56:27,592 --> 00:56:30,178 But I realize, you know, somewhere along the way, 1337 00:56:30,261 --> 00:56:32,389 that I saw him lose so much. 1338 00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:33,681 He got into drugs 1339 00:56:33,807 --> 00:56:36,393 and there were some really bad side effects to his fame. 1340 00:56:36,518 --> 00:56:38,937 โ€ I looked at Kenny a lot of times, 1341 00:56:39,020 --> 00:56:40,980 and having a wife and a family, 1342 00:56:41,064 --> 00:56:44,067 and just being as happy as can be. 1343 00:56:44,192 --> 00:56:45,860 And I've always looked at and admired, 1344 00:56:45,985 --> 00:56:50,115 and thought it was pretty enviable to have. 1345 00:56:50,198 --> 00:56:52,951 But in my line of work, it was always wondering 1346 00:56:53,034 --> 00:56:57,497 can you have both, or is that not possible? 1347 00:56:57,622 --> 00:56:59,791 They don't mix. 1348 00:56:59,874 --> 00:57:03,211 [cheers and applause] 1349 00:57:03,294 --> 00:57:07,507 โ€ The following contest is a casket match 1350 00:57:07,632 --> 00:57:12,053 for the WWE Championship! 1351 00:57:12,178 --> 00:57:14,139 [cheers and applause] 1352 00:57:14,264 --> 00:57:15,682 โ€ This casket match 1353 00:57:15,807 --> 00:57:19,727 is the Undertaker's specialty. 1354 00:57:19,811 --> 00:57:21,563 โ€ The object of a casket match 1355 00:57:21,646 --> 00:57:23,398 is to beat your opponent down far enough 1356 00:57:23,481 --> 00:57:26,401 that you can throw them into the casket or coffin 1357 00:57:26,526 --> 00:57:27,360 and shut the lid. 1358 00:57:27,485 --> 00:57:31,156 And if you do that, you win the match. 1359 00:57:31,281 --> 00:57:34,159 Somewhere through the course of that match, 1360 00:57:34,242 --> 00:57:38,496 I threw him over this giant coffin... 1361 00:57:38,621 --> 00:57:40,623 [grunts] 1362 00:57:40,707 --> 00:57:42,000 โ€ Michaels' back dropped 1363 00:57:42,083 --> 00:57:43,960 on that big old wooden casket. 1364 00:57:44,043 --> 00:57:46,880 I wanted to clear it and go to the floor, 1365 00:57:47,005 --> 00:57:49,299 and I just didn't quite get far enough, 1366 00:57:49,424 --> 00:57:51,050 and bam, I just hit the corner. 1367 00:57:51,176 --> 00:57:53,136 But I didn't really think much about it. 1368 00:57:53,219 --> 00:57:54,534 You know, you still finish the match. 1369 00:57:54,554 --> 00:57:56,764 โ€ Look at the look on his face! 1370 00:57:56,848 --> 00:57:58,475 The Undertaker dragging Michaels 1371 00:57:58,558 --> 00:58:01,102 right down into the depths of Hell! 1372 00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:03,563 The next day, I just remember getting up like, 1373 00:58:03,688 --> 00:58:08,318 ah, you know, waking up and not being able to move. 1374 00:58:08,401 --> 00:58:11,154 First time I recall being in that much pain. 1375 00:58:11,196 --> 00:58:13,656 We do all the Xโ€rays. 1376 00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:14,782 Apparently, I blew a disc, 1377 00:58:14,866 --> 00:58:18,369 and that's the kind of stuff that needs to be fused. 1378 00:58:18,495 --> 00:58:21,331 Doctor says, "Oh, you can't wrestle after that." 1379 00:58:21,456 --> 00:58:24,334 [explosion] [cheers and applause] 1380 00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:27,545 He said I'm never gonna wrestle again, yadda, yadda, yadda. 1381 00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:29,270 And I said, "Nobody tells me what to do, 1382 00:58:29,339 --> 00:58:32,217 so we're going to WrestleMania with Steve." 1383 00:58:32,342 --> 00:58:35,261 You have never, ever had one of these! 1384 00:58:35,345 --> 00:58:36,930 So you give me enough drugs, all right, 1385 00:58:37,013 --> 00:58:41,643 so let's do whatever we can to get me to WrestleMania. 1386 00:58:41,684 --> 00:58:45,939 โ€ Getting Shawn to WrestleMania was a battle. 1387 00:58:46,022 --> 00:58:50,860 He had a bad back, he was heavily medicated. 1388 00:58:50,985 --> 00:58:52,987 He is the WWE Champion 1389 00:58:53,112 --> 00:58:54,385 and the man who will defend his title 1390 00:58:54,405 --> 00:58:55,323 against Stone Cold, 1391 00:58:55,406 --> 00:58:57,450 with Mike Tyson as the Enforcer. 1392 00:58:57,534 --> 00:58:59,911 Here, ladies and gentlemen, Shawn Michaels. 1393 00:59:00,036 --> 00:59:01,704 โ€ I choose to make an ass 1394 00:59:01,829 --> 00:59:04,707 out of a toughest SOB. 1395 00:59:04,832 --> 00:59:06,584 I can do that anytime I want. 1396 00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:12,423 [overlapping chatter] 1397 00:59:12,507 --> 00:59:14,425 โ€ I was gonna have to dope myself up 1398 00:59:14,509 --> 00:59:16,261 and drop the belt to Steve, 1399 00:59:16,344 --> 00:59:19,264 and then I guess I'll let my career be over. 1400 00:59:19,347 --> 00:59:21,099 [dramatic music] 1401 00:59:21,182 --> 00:59:22,600 โ€ He was bitter. 1402 00:59:22,684 --> 00:59:24,936 It had nothing to do with him losing, 1403 00:59:25,019 --> 00:59:26,479 it had to do with being replaced. 1404 00:59:26,604 --> 00:59:29,607 He never had his moment. He never had his run. 1405 00:59:29,691 --> 00:59:31,251 I'm still the greatest. And then thisโ€โ€ 1406 00:59:31,276 --> 00:59:32,485 Now it's his run. 1407 00:59:32,610 --> 00:59:35,905 What do I do? Now I'm the backup guy? 1408 00:59:36,030 --> 00:59:37,136 One of the most messedโ€up things 1409 00:59:37,156 --> 00:59:38,555 I ever heard Shawn say in his life is, 1410 00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:39,909 "I should've taken so many pills, 1411 00:59:39,993 --> 00:59:41,369 "I died after WrestleMania 10. 1412 00:59:41,494 --> 00:59:43,214 "I'd have been the biggest star of all time. 1413 00:59:43,329 --> 00:59:46,165 I'd have been Elvis." 1414 00:59:46,291 --> 00:59:47,584 โ€ It's hopelessness, 1415 00:59:47,667 --> 00:59:49,544 and certainly, that's where I was. 1416 00:59:49,669 --> 00:59:53,298 I am not just, uh, you know, a drug addict. 1417 00:59:53,381 --> 00:59:54,381 I'm an angry one, 1418 00:59:54,424 --> 00:59:56,759 and I mean angrier than ever. 1419 00:59:56,843 --> 00:59:59,596 At that time in my life, that's all I had. 1420 00:59:59,679 --> 01:00:03,474 I identified who I was with what I was doing in that ring. 1421 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,228 And without it, I wouldn't have known what to do with my life. 1422 01:00:07,353 --> 01:00:09,063 [cheers and applause] 1423 01:00:09,188 --> 01:00:11,232 โ€ On the day of WrestleMania 14, 1424 01:00:11,316 --> 01:00:13,151 we barely talked. 1425 01:00:13,234 --> 01:00:15,445 He didn't feel like doing business with me. 1426 01:00:15,528 --> 01:00:19,324 Triple H was a conduit between most of it. 1427 01:00:19,407 --> 01:00:20,950 โ€ He was pissed. 1428 01:00:21,034 --> 01:00:22,974 He wasn't about to talk to Steve about this match. 1429 01:00:22,994 --> 01:00:25,830 I helped him put it together by going from room to room, 1430 01:00:25,872 --> 01:00:28,374 and it was justโ€โ€it was so difficult to do. 1431 01:00:28,499 --> 01:00:31,294 โ€ It was difficult. I remember that day. 1432 01:00:31,377 --> 01:00:35,298 I'm thinking, I don't know what Shawn's going to do. 1433 01:00:35,381 --> 01:00:36,633 โ€ He's retiring, 1434 01:00:36,716 --> 01:00:39,677 you know, this could be his final screw you. 1435 01:00:39,802 --> 01:00:43,139 โ€ Nobody has ever, ever outperformed 1436 01:00:43,222 --> 01:00:46,768 Shawn Michaels in a big match situation. 1437 01:00:46,851 --> 01:00:48,269 โ€ I'm not in great shape. 1438 01:00:48,353 --> 01:00:52,315 My back, pretty bad being in that much pain. 1439 01:00:52,357 --> 01:00:54,651 Get the cortisone shots and stuff like that. 1440 01:00:54,776 --> 01:00:56,819 โ€ Oh, my God! 1441 01:00:56,944 --> 01:01:00,114 I feel like I'm putting him over, that's good enough. 1442 01:01:00,198 --> 01:01:03,826 โ€ Awesome, he got it! The Stunner! 1443 01:01:03,951 --> 01:01:06,371 Mike Tyson in! 1444 01:01:06,496 --> 01:01:08,581 [cheers and applause] 1445 01:01:08,665 --> 01:01:10,145 โ€ Shawn's always been a troublemaker, 1446 01:01:10,166 --> 01:01:12,502 he always wants to get in your face, talk [bleep]. 1447 01:01:12,627 --> 01:01:14,462 Even when he's on your team, he was talking. 1448 01:01:14,545 --> 01:01:17,423 He's an irritant, that's what he is. 1449 01:01:17,507 --> 01:01:23,304 Shawn, um, has sour grapes. 1450 01:01:23,429 --> 01:01:24,972 [cheers and applause] 1451 01:01:25,098 --> 01:01:26,974 โ€ Tyson! Tyson! 1452 01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:28,393 โ€ It was kind of a close blow, 1453 01:01:28,518 --> 01:01:34,190 'cause Shawn was pretty much out for a little while. 1454 01:01:34,315 --> 01:01:36,192 โ€ Tyson takes the Austin 3:16 shirt 1455 01:01:36,275 --> 01:01:38,277 and lays it across Shawn's chest. 1456 01:01:38,361 --> 01:01:40,154 This was adding insult to injury, 1457 01:01:40,279 --> 01:01:42,323 and this was rubbing salt in the wound. 1458 01:01:42,407 --> 01:01:44,409 I would have been pissed too. 1459 01:01:44,534 --> 01:01:46,494 โ€ Not exactly the screw job, 1460 01:01:46,577 --> 01:01:49,247 but it was them getting the last laugh 1461 01:01:49,372 --> 01:01:52,166 as far as, you know, "Good, little prick, 1462 01:01:52,291 --> 01:01:53,710 "you put us through hell this week, 1463 01:01:53,835 --> 01:01:55,920 but we're at least gonna get you going out the door." 1464 01:01:56,003 --> 01:01:58,297 โ€ The new WWE Champion, 1465 01:01:58,339 --> 01:02:00,633 Stone Cold Steve Austin. 1466 01:02:00,758 --> 01:02:02,009 [applause] 1467 01:02:02,093 --> 01:02:04,303 He was going to that press conference 1468 01:02:04,429 --> 01:02:06,889 to just let everybody know I'm pissed off. 1469 01:02:07,014 --> 01:02:10,935 He walked in the door and he yelled some stuff. 1470 01:02:11,018 --> 01:02:12,311 โ€ Oh, yeah. It's [bleep] up. 1471 01:02:12,437 --> 01:02:14,355 It was justโ€โ€it's selfish and it's stupid, 1472 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,359 but, you know, that's where he was at that time. 1473 01:02:18,484 --> 01:02:21,320 โ€ Shawn is suffering from ruptured disc 1474 01:02:21,404 --> 01:02:24,073 as we speak, and will not participate 1475 01:02:24,198 --> 01:02:25,658 at this press conference. 1476 01:02:25,742 --> 01:02:29,036 Nonetheless, he participated, uh, in the arena 1477 01:02:29,162 --> 01:02:30,663 in an extraordinary way, 1478 01:02:30,747 --> 01:02:32,145 and there is no athlete in the world 1479 01:02:32,165 --> 01:02:35,918 that can say they can do what Shawn Michaels does. 1480 01:02:36,002 --> 01:02:37,002 [dramatic music] 1481 01:02:41,007 --> 01:02:43,801 [soft music] 1482 01:02:43,885 --> 01:02:46,137 โ€ I got on the plane the next morning 1483 01:02:46,262 --> 01:02:50,308 and went home and began to, I don't know, 1484 01:02:50,349 --> 01:02:52,518 let it all sort of sink in. 1485 01:02:52,643 --> 01:02:54,020 It takes some time 1486 01:02:54,145 --> 01:02:57,857 before it goes from being time off to the reality 1487 01:02:57,982 --> 01:03:01,444 of how exactly is the rest of your life gonna go 1488 01:03:01,527 --> 01:03:04,864 when you're done at 33? 1489 01:03:04,989 --> 01:03:07,950 Okay, see if I can get one done here. 1490 01:03:08,034 --> 01:03:09,702 All they knew at the time 1491 01:03:09,786 --> 01:03:12,830 was stuff like that, you don't recover from, 1492 01:03:12,955 --> 01:03:15,124 people don't get back in the ring and wrestle again. 1493 01:03:15,208 --> 01:03:16,459 The thing is, 1494 01:03:16,584 --> 01:03:20,296 I can't keep coming out here week after week after week 1495 01:03:20,379 --> 01:03:21,798 going back and forth with all this. 1496 01:03:21,881 --> 01:03:24,467 I get to get busy with my rehabโ€โ€ 1497 01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:26,135 My physical therapy. 1498 01:03:26,219 --> 01:03:29,013 My physical therapy for my back. 1499 01:03:29,096 --> 01:03:30,097 [sighs] 1500 01:03:30,181 --> 01:03:33,559 Now I've got a legitimate reason to have pain pills 1501 01:03:33,684 --> 01:03:38,231 and I've got a prescription and everything else. 1502 01:03:38,356 --> 01:03:39,690 I just wanna be a pro wrestler. 1503 01:03:39,816 --> 01:03:41,984 That's what I was trying to go back to. 1504 01:03:42,068 --> 01:03:46,030 So I began to start the Shawn Michaels Wrestling Academy. 1505 01:03:46,155 --> 01:03:48,324 We had a couple of rings, I had a little workout room. 1506 01:03:48,407 --> 01:03:51,452 There were a couple of guys that came through my school 1507 01:03:51,536 --> 01:03:54,330 that went on to have WWE success. 1508 01:03:54,413 --> 01:03:56,082 It was a great experience, it really was. 1509 01:03:56,207 --> 01:03:59,836 I did it for about two and a half, three years. 1510 01:03:59,961 --> 01:04:04,006 So I'm at home, and I'm watching TV, 1511 01:04:04,131 --> 01:04:05,299 and then all of a sudden 1512 01:04:05,383 --> 01:04:06,948 the introduction of this new Nitro Girl. 1513 01:04:06,968 --> 01:04:10,555 โ€ Tampa Bay girl herself, Whisper. 1514 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:15,518 And she's out there with this chair, 1515 01:04:15,643 --> 01:04:20,606 just doing this dance, and it's captivating. 1516 01:04:20,690 --> 01:04:24,026 And she's absolutely the most beautiful thing I've ever seen. 1517 01:04:24,151 --> 01:04:26,279 [soft music] 1518 01:04:26,362 --> 01:04:27,905 โ€ We were at a rehearsal 1519 01:04:27,989 --> 01:04:29,657 and one of the Nitro Girls, Spice, 1520 01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:31,868 had mentioned to me that a man named Shawn Michaels, 1521 01:04:31,951 --> 01:04:34,453 a former wrestler, wanted to meet me 1522 01:04:34,537 --> 01:04:36,394 and that was the first time I'd ever heard of him. 1523 01:04:36,414 --> 01:04:37,498 I called her up. 1524 01:04:37,582 --> 01:04:39,375 We probably talked for three hours 1525 01:04:39,458 --> 01:04:41,168 on the phone each night for two weeks. 1526 01:04:41,294 --> 01:04:43,170 โ€ Two weeks of talking and emailing, 1527 01:04:43,254 --> 01:04:47,216 and then I flew out to San Antonio to see him, 1528 01:04:47,341 --> 01:04:49,510 and we dated for about two weeks. 1529 01:04:49,594 --> 01:04:51,137 After that he told me he loved me, 1530 01:04:51,220 --> 01:04:52,388 and I told him I loved him. 1531 01:04:52,513 --> 01:04:54,473 Two weeks after that, we got married. 1532 01:04:54,557 --> 01:04:58,269 โ€ It was the Graceland Wedding Chapel, yeah. Yeah. 1533 01:04:58,352 --> 01:05:00,229 You know, an Elvis impersonator 1534 01:05:00,354 --> 01:05:01,272 walking down the aisle. 1535 01:05:01,355 --> 01:05:03,232 [humming] 1536 01:05:03,357 --> 01:05:04,734 It was fantastic. 1537 01:05:04,859 --> 01:05:08,654 It was just the greatestโ€โ€ the greatest thing ever. 1538 01:05:08,779 --> 01:05:12,992 There was one evening where my pills have kicked in, 1539 01:05:13,117 --> 01:05:15,828 and I'm out of it. 1540 01:05:15,912 --> 01:05:17,955 โ€ Shawn was in tremendous pain. 1541 01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:20,458 When he would take the muscle relaxers, 1542 01:05:20,541 --> 01:05:25,046 he would usually pass out over his food. 1543 01:05:25,129 --> 01:05:27,506 The very first time that Shawn ever did that 1544 01:05:27,632 --> 01:05:28,863 was when we were first married, 1545 01:05:28,883 --> 01:05:30,509 so it was a bit of a shock to me. 1546 01:05:30,593 --> 01:05:32,011 So I got him in the shower, 1547 01:05:32,136 --> 01:05:33,936 'cause he had spilled food all over his chest, 1548 01:05:34,013 --> 01:05:38,517 and I would say it probably happened a couple times a week. 1549 01:05:38,601 --> 01:05:41,437 โ€ The worst time, again, 1550 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,315 was when she was eight months pregnant 1551 01:05:44,398 --> 01:05:45,796 and she's doing everything she can, 1552 01:05:45,816 --> 01:05:47,416 at eight months pregnant with her belly, 1553 01:05:47,485 --> 01:05:50,279 trying to hold me up. 1554 01:05:50,363 --> 01:05:51,739 โ€ I took pity on him, 1555 01:05:51,864 --> 01:05:53,991 and I just prayed for him, is all I could do. 1556 01:05:54,116 --> 01:05:55,826 But it didn't make me think, you know, 1557 01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:57,703 "What in the world have I gotten into?" 1558 01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:00,706 If I was fearful, I was fearful for our unborn child. 1559 01:06:00,790 --> 01:06:04,335 And I hoped that it would end whenever the baby was born, 1560 01:06:04,460 --> 01:06:06,754 and it didn't. 1561 01:06:06,837 --> 01:06:11,926 โ€ Here in Cleveland, Ohio, we will make history. 1562 01:06:12,009 --> 01:06:14,303 โ€ I don't remember why Shawn was there. 1563 01:06:14,428 --> 01:06:17,556 He must have been some doing something in the show. 1564 01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:22,436 We all go, me, Taker, Rock, Vince is in the ring. 1565 01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,188 "Now I own WCW." 1566 01:06:24,313 --> 01:06:28,818 Shawn is messed up, pilled up. 1567 01:06:28,901 --> 01:06:32,154 So this is a celebratory moment. 1568 01:06:32,279 --> 01:06:36,867 He's belligerent, loud, falling down, staggering, 1569 01:06:36,993 --> 01:06:42,540 Vince calls him in, tells him, "Go home, I'm done with you." 1570 01:06:42,665 --> 01:06:45,001 Shawn goes ballistic. 1571 01:06:45,084 --> 01:06:48,462 Walks by me in the hallway, just goes off. 1572 01:06:48,546 --> 01:06:51,507 โ€ You know, I went 1573 01:06:51,632 --> 01:06:54,510 and browbeat Hunter unfairly, obviously. 1574 01:06:54,635 --> 01:06:57,013 โ€ And I just went off back, 1575 01:06:57,096 --> 01:07:00,349 you know, in his face, screaming match back and forth, 1576 01:07:00,433 --> 01:07:01,767 and he storms out. 1577 01:07:01,851 --> 01:07:03,165 โ€ Now that's another one that makes me cry. 1578 01:07:03,185 --> 01:07:05,146 I went and said some mean stuff to him 1579 01:07:05,271 --> 01:07:06,939 and walked out. 1580 01:07:07,023 --> 01:07:10,526 And, you know, 1581 01:07:10,651 --> 01:07:12,987 that sucks as well. 1582 01:07:14,488 --> 01:07:19,326 โ€ And I don't talk to him for a long time. 1583 01:07:19,410 --> 01:07:22,580 โ€ We didn't speak, I don't know, 1584 01:07:22,705 --> 01:07:25,666 I mean I would think at least a year, two years. 1585 01:07:25,750 --> 01:07:29,086 It was, what do they call it, the rock bottom. 1586 01:07:29,170 --> 01:07:32,381 [dramatic music] 1587 01:07:33,382 --> 01:07:36,802 [indistinct chatter] 1588 01:07:36,886 --> 01:07:39,555 โ€ Our son was at the age to where he was, 1589 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,141 you know, walking around, more aware of things, 1590 01:07:42,183 --> 01:07:43,684 and it was the night 1591 01:07:43,809 --> 01:07:45,529 when Shawn had fallen asleep on the couchโ€โ€ 1592 01:07:45,644 --> 01:07:46,645 a drugโ€induced sleepโ€โ€ 1593 01:07:46,729 --> 01:07:48,564 with our son climbing all over him 1594 01:07:48,689 --> 01:07:50,066 and saying, "Daddy's asleep." 1595 01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:51,984 โ€ To me, the biggest thing again 1596 01:07:52,068 --> 01:07:54,653 was Cameron saying, "Daddy's tired." 1597 01:07:54,737 --> 01:07:56,781 And it sort of dawning on me 1598 01:07:56,864 --> 01:07:59,575 that he was now being able to recognize 1599 01:07:59,700 --> 01:08:03,245 clearly my state of mind. 1600 01:08:03,329 --> 01:08:05,873 I went into the bathroom and closed the door. 1601 01:08:05,956 --> 01:08:07,666 Looking at yourself in the mirror 1602 01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:09,668 and, you know, 1603 01:08:09,752 --> 01:08:12,546 I sat there and cried like a baby and wept, 1604 01:08:12,671 --> 01:08:15,508 you know, realizing that you are failing, 1605 01:08:15,633 --> 01:08:17,760 you know, a twoโ€yearโ€old little boy. 1606 01:08:17,843 --> 01:08:19,720 And all of those things 1607 01:08:19,845 --> 01:08:23,015 sort of came crashing down that night, 1608 01:08:23,140 --> 01:08:26,560 and I justโ€โ€it's the first time I ever feel 1609 01:08:26,644 --> 01:08:28,979 like such a frickin' failure. 1610 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:30,669 And I think that that was the last straw for him, 1611 01:08:30,689 --> 01:08:33,317 and when he woke up the next morning, 1612 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,445 he told me he was never taking pills or drinking again, 1613 01:08:36,529 --> 01:08:38,489 and from that point, he didn't. 1614 01:08:38,572 --> 01:08:40,491 It was an instantaneous letting go 1615 01:08:40,574 --> 01:08:42,034 of the drugs and alcohol. 1616 01:08:42,159 --> 01:08:43,919 โ€ I just called him up out of the clear blue, 1617 01:08:43,994 --> 01:08:47,039 I just asked him when the last time he talked to Paul, 1618 01:08:47,164 --> 01:08:52,211 and, um, he just avoided that situation. 1619 01:08:52,336 --> 01:08:57,424 I just said, "Man, you're wrong, you got to call him." 1620 01:08:57,508 --> 01:08:59,093 I called Hunter and let him know, 1621 01:08:59,176 --> 01:09:03,180 you know, how sorry I was and how out of line I was. 1622 01:09:03,305 --> 01:09:05,307 And I said, "I hope you can forgive me." 1623 01:09:05,432 --> 01:09:07,643 I needed that from Hunter. 1624 01:09:07,726 --> 01:09:09,979 For me, it was easy, like, I didn'tโ€โ€ 1625 01:09:10,062 --> 01:09:12,481 as long as it wasn't drugs talking to me. 1626 01:09:12,565 --> 01:09:14,150 โ€ It's good to see you. 1627 01:09:14,191 --> 01:09:15,191 [patting] 1628 01:09:15,276 --> 01:09:16,152 โ€ Group hug. 1629 01:09:16,277 --> 01:09:18,779 โ€ Of course, I do regret the pain 1630 01:09:18,863 --> 01:09:20,781 that it caused people in my life, 1631 01:09:20,865 --> 01:09:23,576 but there is a part of that that I don't think 1632 01:09:23,701 --> 01:09:27,788 that Michael Shawn Hickenbottom can get 1633 01:09:27,872 --> 01:09:30,082 to where he got creatively 1634 01:09:30,207 --> 01:09:35,171 without a little bit of that reckless, risky mindset. 1635 01:09:35,296 --> 01:09:39,258 I wouldn't have had the guts to do it. 1636 01:09:39,341 --> 01:09:41,719 โ€ It was our first Christmas together, 1637 01:09:41,844 --> 01:09:43,929 and I gave Shawn a Bible and some other books, 1638 01:09:44,013 --> 01:09:45,848 and he began reading them. 1639 01:09:45,973 --> 01:09:49,476 โ€ I had never had anything that I could grasp 1640 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,812 that was bigger than the wrestling business. 1641 01:09:51,896 --> 01:09:56,066 That's just not enough to base, I don't know, a life on. 1642 01:09:57,151 --> 01:09:59,653 โ€ I worked at Cornerstone Church in San Antonio, Texas. 1643 01:09:59,737 --> 01:10:02,531 All of a sudden I heard a deep voice said, 1644 01:10:02,615 --> 01:10:04,950 "I want to come to a Bible study." 1645 01:10:05,034 --> 01:10:07,077 And then I got up from my desk 1646 01:10:07,203 --> 01:10:09,330 and stuck my head out the door, 1647 01:10:09,413 --> 01:10:11,248 and I said, "Well, you can come to mine." 1648 01:10:11,373 --> 01:10:13,417 When he left, everybody came out and said, 1649 01:10:13,459 --> 01:10:15,085 "Do you know who that was?" 1650 01:10:15,169 --> 01:10:16,817 I said, "No, I don't know who that was, who was it?" 1651 01:10:16,837 --> 01:10:18,130 And they said, "Shawn Michaels," 1652 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:20,174 and I said, "Well, who's Shawn Michaels?" 1653 01:10:22,593 --> 01:10:24,053 He said, "Well, first, Keith, 1654 01:10:24,178 --> 01:10:26,805 I want you to pray for my back." 1655 01:10:26,889 --> 01:10:28,557 He says, "I've been out of wrestling 1656 01:10:28,682 --> 01:10:29,808 and I want to go back." 1657 01:10:29,892 --> 01:10:31,560 I said, "Well, there's a simple prayer 1658 01:10:31,644 --> 01:10:32,978 that we can pray together." 1659 01:10:33,103 --> 01:10:35,481 And while he was saying that prayer, 1660 01:10:35,564 --> 01:10:38,859 tears just come out of his eyes. 1661 01:10:38,984 --> 01:10:40,986 โ€ I got nobody to blame but me, 1662 01:10:41,070 --> 01:10:43,989 and I don't have anything in common with the other dude, 1663 01:10:44,073 --> 01:10:45,908 and I don't know how I got that way. 1664 01:10:46,033 --> 01:10:48,744 It wasn't from family. It wasn't from upbringing. 1665 01:10:48,827 --> 01:10:50,579 โ€ He was so desperate 1666 01:10:50,663 --> 01:10:54,708 to get back in that close relationship with Rebecca 1667 01:10:54,833 --> 01:10:56,418 and his son. 1668 01:10:56,502 --> 01:10:58,295 โ€ I was now a dad, I was a husband, 1669 01:10:58,337 --> 01:11:03,634 and I was really devoted and thrilled about that. 1670 01:11:03,759 --> 01:11:04,969 โ€ You're like a child, 1671 01:11:05,094 --> 01:11:07,846 you just want to tell everybody, "I've been saved." 1672 01:11:14,812 --> 01:11:16,480 โ€ Once Shawn got his life together 1673 01:11:16,522 --> 01:11:18,732 and found Christ, it was night and day. 1674 01:11:18,816 --> 01:11:20,192 When he looks back at his life, 1675 01:11:20,276 --> 01:11:22,653 that's the biggest thing that he ever did. 1676 01:11:22,736 --> 01:11:24,134 โ€ You were dealing with the grownup 1677 01:11:24,154 --> 01:11:25,406 when Shawn came back, 1678 01:11:25,531 --> 01:11:28,325 someone who was there to do business. 1679 01:11:28,409 --> 01:11:31,662 Shawn was a lot calmer and much easier to deal with. 1680 01:11:31,745 --> 01:11:33,330 โ€ Shawn Michaels of old 1681 01:11:33,455 --> 01:11:35,135 is very different from Shawn Hickenbottom, 1682 01:11:35,207 --> 01:11:36,417 the man I married. 1683 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,460 The sexy boy and all that kinda stuff, 1684 01:11:38,502 --> 01:11:39,753 and his cocky attitude 1685 01:11:39,837 --> 01:11:41,630 and the cocky little smile that he does. 1686 01:11:41,714 --> 01:11:45,801 That's so far from who he really is. 1687 01:11:45,926 --> 01:11:47,511 โ€ I remember somebody asking me, 1688 01:11:47,636 --> 01:11:51,056 they said, you know, "Hey, I heard Shawn found religion." 1689 01:11:51,140 --> 01:11:52,558 Yeah. They laughed, 1690 01:11:52,641 --> 01:11:57,479 and I said, "I don't anybody that died OD'ing on religion." 1691 01:11:57,604 --> 01:11:59,148 โ€ He had called Triple H. 1692 01:11:59,231 --> 01:12:02,318 He thanked Hunter for the time on the road 1693 01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:05,195 because before his marriage to me, 1694 01:12:05,321 --> 01:12:08,949 the one who took care of him was Hunter. 1695 01:12:09,033 --> 01:12:11,493 That night, after Shawn had gone to bed, 1696 01:12:11,577 --> 01:12:15,247 he woke up in the morning and the pain was gone in his back. 1697 01:12:15,372 --> 01:12:17,249 It was definitely a miracle. 1698 01:12:17,333 --> 01:12:20,210 So, he was physically ready to go back in the ring, 1699 01:12:20,336 --> 01:12:24,548 and I knew that the Lord would take care of him. 1700 01:12:24,673 --> 01:12:26,216 โ€ We were kind of having conversations 1701 01:12:26,300 --> 01:12:28,218 at the time, and then he said, 1702 01:12:28,344 --> 01:12:29,825 "I want my son to see me do this one time," 1703 01:12:29,845 --> 01:12:31,368 he said, "But I don't know that I can do it, 1704 01:12:31,388 --> 01:12:33,223 I don't know physically if I can or not," 1705 01:12:33,307 --> 01:12:34,808 and he said, "If I'm going to, 1706 01:12:34,892 --> 01:12:37,936 I only trust one person, that's you. 1707 01:12:38,020 --> 01:12:40,981 If you consider it, I would love to do it. 1708 01:12:41,065 --> 01:12:44,902 What do you think?" 1709 01:12:45,027 --> 01:12:48,530 โ€ Moments away from the nonโ€sanctioned fight 1710 01:12:48,655 --> 01:12:52,159 between two men who were, at one time, best friends, 1711 01:12:52,201 --> 01:12:54,286 Shawn Michaels and Triple H. 1712 01:12:54,370 --> 01:12:59,875 Shawn Michaels last wrestled 1,609 days ago, 1713 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,544 if you can believe that. 1714 01:13:02,669 --> 01:13:03,837 โ€ His whole family was there. 1715 01:13:03,921 --> 01:13:06,548 You know, they were all scared to death. 1716 01:13:06,673 --> 01:13:08,342 Got in the ring, did a couple of things. 1717 01:13:08,467 --> 01:13:10,135 [bell rings] 1718 01:13:10,219 --> 01:13:13,222 Never missed a beat, not a moment, not an anything. 1719 01:13:13,347 --> 01:13:15,224 โ€ I was on my chair like a redneck, 1720 01:13:15,307 --> 01:13:17,017 just screaming and yelling for him. 1721 01:13:17,101 --> 01:13:18,394 Of course, I cried at the end. 1722 01:13:18,477 --> 01:13:19,978 โ€ Like, how is this possible, 1723 01:13:20,104 --> 01:13:25,025 that he is this good still, after all that time 1724 01:13:25,109 --> 01:13:29,321 and injury and everything else? Unbelievable. 1725 01:13:29,405 --> 01:13:33,283 โ€ It was just as easy as the day is long, 1726 01:13:33,367 --> 01:13:35,160 it was poetic, it was phenomenal, 1727 01:13:35,244 --> 01:13:38,705 it was everything that is right and good about the world 1728 01:13:38,789 --> 01:13:41,834 in this line of work, and, you know, my family there, 1729 01:13:41,917 --> 01:13:43,460 out there with my best friend. 1730 01:13:43,585 --> 01:13:50,634 โ€ The Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels! 1731 01:13:50,717 --> 01:13:52,302 โ€ After the Summerslam, 1732 01:13:52,386 --> 01:13:54,721 that's when there was a sense of peace and joy 1733 01:13:54,847 --> 01:13:57,307 in the midst of doing your job and your family, 1734 01:13:57,433 --> 01:14:01,770 combining these two worlds that I've never had together, 1735 01:14:01,854 --> 01:14:03,439 and I'm not even the same person. 1736 01:14:03,522 --> 01:14:07,025 And now, and it all feels so right. 1737 01:14:07,109 --> 01:14:08,298 That's as good as it gets, you know, 1738 01:14:08,318 --> 01:14:10,988 it's heaven on Earth here in this room. 1739 01:14:11,071 --> 01:14:13,490 โ€ Shawn Michaels changed completely 1740 01:14:13,615 --> 01:14:14,867 as a human being. 1741 01:14:14,992 --> 01:14:16,743 And somehow, as a character, 1742 01:14:16,869 --> 01:14:22,374 he managed to keep a lot of the aura that he always had. 1743 01:14:22,499 --> 01:14:27,087 I could argue that Shawn was at his best after he came back. 1744 01:14:27,171 --> 01:14:30,257 [cheers and applause] 1745 01:14:30,340 --> 01:14:32,134 โ€ To me, 1746 01:14:32,217 --> 01:14:36,722 the greatest inโ€ring performer 1747 01:14:36,847 --> 01:14:38,807 of all time. 1748 01:14:40,142 --> 01:14:42,060 [soft music] 1749 01:14:42,144 --> 01:14:44,229 โ€ It gets more difficult 1750 01:14:44,354 --> 01:14:46,523 to find a new mountain, a new challenge. 1751 01:14:46,648 --> 01:14:49,151 Sometimes that mountain or that new challenge 1752 01:14:49,193 --> 01:14:50,360 just isn't there. 1753 01:14:50,444 --> 01:14:52,009 And so later on in my career, I learned that 1754 01:14:52,029 --> 01:14:54,781 when I disconnect from it, something will usually happen, 1755 01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:56,658 and, you know, the one with Flair 1756 01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:59,828 is the one I honestly always speak of. 1757 01:14:59,953 --> 01:15:02,414 Remember the story of Old Yeller? 1758 01:15:02,498 --> 01:15:05,626 The Showstopper's gonna take you, Old Yeller, 1759 01:15:05,709 --> 01:15:10,839 behind the woodshed and put you out of your misery. 1760 01:15:10,964 --> 01:15:15,010 I lost myself in that drama. [laughs] 1761 01:15:15,135 --> 01:15:16,512 I get a call from my buddy, Kenny, 1762 01:15:16,637 --> 01:15:18,388 who's now been made aware of the match. 1763 01:15:18,514 --> 01:15:20,496 It's like, oh my goodness, he said, "Can you believe it?" 1764 01:15:20,516 --> 01:15:24,311 โ€ It was overwhelming to think that the guy that we idolized 1765 01:15:24,353 --> 01:15:28,106 that we would watch a little TV box in San Antonio, Texas, 1766 01:15:28,190 --> 01:15:30,776 somehow their lives were going to interconnect. 1767 01:15:30,859 --> 01:15:33,695 Ric was his guy. He absolutely loved Ric Flair. 1768 01:15:33,779 --> 01:15:36,865 โ€ Kenny took me back to that time. 1769 01:15:40,244 --> 01:15:43,747 โ€ This was why I went from New York to Orlando, 1770 01:15:43,872 --> 01:15:46,667 was to see this moment. 1771 01:15:46,708 --> 01:15:47,709 [bell rings] 1772 01:15:47,793 --> 01:15:49,253 โ€ Now in this match, 1773 01:15:49,336 --> 01:15:53,882 should Ric Flair lose, he must retire. 1774 01:15:53,966 --> 01:15:55,259 โ€ I remember feeling 1775 01:15:55,342 --> 01:15:57,302 like the way Ric Flair started this match, 1776 01:15:57,427 --> 01:16:00,305 that he had a chance. 1777 01:16:00,430 --> 01:16:02,724 [grunts] 1778 01:16:02,808 --> 01:16:05,477 โ€ There's no other way to put itโ€โ€he carried me. 1779 01:16:05,561 --> 01:16:09,064 He gave everything that anybody could ever give 1780 01:16:09,189 --> 01:16:10,732 to a match that night. 1781 01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:13,694 โ€ Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute, look out. 1782 01:16:13,819 --> 01:16:16,113 Good grief! 1783 01:16:16,196 --> 01:16:18,073 Oh, not again! 1784 01:16:18,156 --> 01:16:19,366 โ€ It becomes clear 1785 01:16:19,491 --> 01:16:22,744 that Ric Flair just doesn't have enough. 1786 01:16:22,828 --> 01:16:25,747 I love this part, I could tear up talking about it. 1787 01:16:25,872 --> 01:16:28,792 Flair, like an old dog, still fighting, 1788 01:16:28,875 --> 01:16:30,627 he thinks he still has it. 1789 01:16:30,711 --> 01:16:34,631 And that's when Shawn sort of has to have that moment 1790 01:16:34,756 --> 01:16:37,134 where he says, "I'm sorry, I love you." 1791 01:16:37,259 --> 01:16:39,261 โ€ Flair wants to fight. 1792 01:16:39,344 --> 01:16:41,471 โ€ And just turns the lights out. 1793 01:16:41,555 --> 01:16:46,977 It was as beautiful and perfect an ending to a wrestling match 1794 01:16:47,102 --> 01:16:48,979 as you will ever have. 1795 01:16:49,021 --> 01:16:51,398 โ€ He knew I didn't want to go, 1796 01:16:51,523 --> 01:16:54,234 and he said, "I love you." 1797 01:16:54,318 --> 01:16:55,465 It's a great moment in wrestling. 1798 01:16:55,485 --> 01:16:57,237 I don't care what anyone says, 1799 01:16:57,321 --> 01:17:00,282 you can't replace something like that. 1800 01:17:00,365 --> 01:17:01,658 โ€ Unashamed 1801 01:17:01,742 --> 01:17:04,119 that it was my love letter to, you know, 1802 01:17:04,202 --> 01:17:08,206 the wrestling business and to Ric Flair. 1803 01:17:12,836 --> 01:17:16,673 โ€ It is show day, and we're off to the shiโ€zow. 1804 01:17:16,757 --> 01:17:20,260 I've been doing this for 35 years, 1805 01:17:20,344 --> 01:17:21,470 and days like today, 1806 01:17:21,553 --> 01:17:23,473 it's a different kind of anxiety that I have now. 1807 01:17:23,513 --> 01:17:25,265 I have anxiety for the performers 1808 01:17:25,349 --> 01:17:27,392 for the entire show as a whole. 1809 01:17:27,517 --> 01:17:29,686 For me it's just all fantastic, 1810 01:17:29,811 --> 01:17:32,022 especially when it goes well for them, 1811 01:17:32,147 --> 01:17:33,587 and they come back and they're jacked. 1812 01:17:33,607 --> 01:17:35,400 It's ten times better thanโ€โ€ 1813 01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:37,152 than when I had that opportunity. 1814 01:17:37,277 --> 01:17:39,196 This is where I'm supposed to be. 1815 01:17:39,321 --> 01:17:42,240 I absolutely love it. 1816 01:17:43,867 --> 01:17:46,036 [soft music] 1817 01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:47,371 โ€ What moment would you say 1818 01:17:47,496 --> 01:17:49,581 you're most proud of, and then by the same token, 1819 01:17:49,665 --> 01:17:51,585 what moment would you say you are least proud of? 1820 01:17:51,667 --> 01:17:53,085 โ€ Most proud I guess would be 1821 01:17:53,168 --> 01:17:54,628 winning the world title. 1822 01:17:54,711 --> 01:17:58,215 And least proud would probably be the Montreal incident. 1823 01:17:58,340 --> 01:18:01,176 One is everything you aspire to do, 1824 01:18:01,301 --> 01:18:02,824 and the other is the complete opposite. 1825 01:18:02,844 --> 01:18:05,639 Something you really don't want to be a part of. 1826 01:18:05,764 --> 01:18:09,309 It's the longโ€term guilt, it's the shame, 1827 01:18:09,393 --> 01:18:12,187 it's the loathing that you know this person has for you. 1828 01:18:12,312 --> 01:18:14,022 โ€ There was so much bad blood between us, 1829 01:18:14,147 --> 01:18:18,610 and I was always like, if I see him, I'll kill him. 1830 01:18:18,694 --> 01:18:21,154 I've always believed that I had so much anger, 1831 01:18:21,279 --> 01:18:22,781 that I think it led to my stroke 1832 01:18:22,864 --> 01:18:24,491 and lot of things that I went through. 1833 01:18:24,616 --> 01:18:26,014 And I remember thinking about Shawn 1834 01:18:26,034 --> 01:18:28,203 and how we were good friends once upon a time, 1835 01:18:28,286 --> 01:18:30,497 and, you know, that it wasn't just Shawn. 1836 01:18:30,622 --> 01:18:31,873 I was guilty too. 1837 01:18:31,957 --> 01:18:34,459 And I remember thinking it'd be good to put it to bed. 1838 01:18:34,584 --> 01:18:37,003 โ€ And I've certainly talked about my regret 1839 01:18:37,129 --> 01:18:39,673 and the hope for reconciliation. 1840 01:18:39,798 --> 01:18:41,717 It took him some time to get there. 1841 01:18:41,842 --> 01:18:43,490 Vince had suggested there's gotta be a way 1842 01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:46,972 we can do this live, in front of the world. 1843 01:18:47,013 --> 01:18:48,598 โ€ I've got 12 years of things 1844 01:18:48,682 --> 01:18:49,996 that I've wanted to get off my chest. 1845 01:18:50,016 --> 01:18:51,268 I want to call back there 1846 01:18:51,351 --> 01:18:53,979 and ask Shawn Michaels to come out here. 1847 01:18:54,062 --> 01:18:55,647 I call for a truce, 1848 01:18:55,731 --> 01:18:57,733 and I call for you to shake my hand. 1849 01:18:57,858 --> 01:18:59,901 The fact that we did that in the ring 1850 01:18:59,985 --> 01:19:02,237 and we shook hands and all that was very honest 1851 01:19:02,362 --> 01:19:04,156 and very sincere. 1852 01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:05,907 โ€ You know that everybody's watching 1853 01:19:05,991 --> 01:19:07,347 when you are trying to have this very real moment 1854 01:19:07,367 --> 01:19:08,493 with one another. 1855 01:19:08,535 --> 01:19:10,245 Art does imitate life. 1856 01:19:10,370 --> 01:19:12,581 โ€ He's matured, and he's a different guy, 1857 01:19:12,706 --> 01:19:14,416 [cheers and applause] 1858 01:19:14,541 --> 01:19:15,772 And I thought he finally, you know, 1859 01:19:15,792 --> 01:19:17,419 he's got his priorities all in order. 1860 01:19:17,502 --> 01:19:19,713 [cheers and applause] 1861 01:19:19,796 --> 01:19:21,089 โ€ Welcome 1862 01:19:21,173 --> 01:19:23,967 to the 25th anniversary 1863 01:19:24,050 --> 01:19:28,305 of WrestleMania! 1864 01:19:28,388 --> 01:19:31,808 70,000 WWE fans. 1865 01:19:31,933 --> 01:19:34,811 โ€ By the time Shawn Michaels and Undertaker 1866 01:19:34,936 --> 01:19:37,314 meet at WrestleMania 25, they're veterans, 1867 01:19:37,397 --> 01:19:38,774 they've been around forever. 1868 01:19:38,857 --> 01:19:39,858 And somehow, 1869 01:19:39,983 --> 01:19:44,196 they're actually both in their absolute prime. 1870 01:19:44,321 --> 01:19:49,159 [ethereal music playing] 1871 01:19:49,242 --> 01:19:50,869 โ€ One of my favorite entrances, 1872 01:19:50,994 --> 01:19:52,370 Shawn as The Undertaker, 1873 01:19:52,454 --> 01:19:56,583 but in all white, ascending from the clouds. 1874 01:19:56,708 --> 01:20:02,464 Such a stark contrast to what I'm about to do. 1875 01:20:02,506 --> 01:20:05,926 It was the battle between heaven and hell. 1876 01:20:06,009 --> 01:20:07,260 โ€ Prior to 2002, 1877 01:20:07,344 --> 01:20:09,513 we did not have a great relationship. 1878 01:20:09,596 --> 01:20:11,681 We did not like each other outside the ring. 1879 01:20:11,807 --> 01:20:14,518 โ€ This guy, I genuinely liked now. 1880 01:20:14,601 --> 01:20:17,145 And it had been years and years and years 1881 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:19,856 since we had worked together, 1882 01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:21,900 since the time that he had injured himself 1883 01:20:21,983 --> 01:20:23,485 in the casket match. 1884 01:20:23,568 --> 01:20:24,903 โ€ Unknown to us at the time, 1885 01:20:25,028 --> 01:20:28,156 we're about to create one of the most epic things ever done 1886 01:20:28,281 --> 01:20:29,825 in the wrestling business. 1887 01:20:29,908 --> 01:20:31,827 โ€ There's that brash arrogance. 1888 01:20:31,952 --> 01:20:37,082 70,000 chanting HBK the other half, Undertaker. 1889 01:20:37,165 --> 01:20:38,667 [audience screaming] 1890 01:20:38,708 --> 01:20:41,086 โ€ Ooh! โ€ Whoa! 1891 01:20:41,169 --> 01:20:44,172 [cheers and applause] 1892 01:20:44,256 --> 01:20:47,300 [triumphant music] 1893 01:20:47,384 --> 01:20:48,885 โ€ You know when you're in the middle 1894 01:20:49,010 --> 01:20:51,221 of something really special, and we did. 1895 01:20:51,346 --> 01:20:53,431 โ€ Incoming! 1896 01:20:53,515 --> 01:20:57,310 Tombstone piledriver. 1897 01:20:57,394 --> 01:21:00,981 โ™ช 1898 01:21:01,106 --> 01:21:04,818 [bell rings] 1899 01:21:04,943 --> 01:21:07,362 โ€ I just remember getting to Shawn, 1900 01:21:07,487 --> 01:21:09,614 and we just embraced, and hugged, 1901 01:21:09,698 --> 01:21:11,199 and thanked each other. 1902 01:21:11,324 --> 01:21:12,993 It was an awesome moment. 1903 01:21:13,076 --> 01:21:14,911 โ€ It was on the ride home the next day, 1904 01:21:14,995 --> 01:21:17,205 just settling into me that I just don't know 1905 01:21:17,289 --> 01:21:20,375 that I'm ever going to encounter, 1906 01:21:20,458 --> 01:21:22,460 from a performance standpoint, 1907 01:21:22,544 --> 01:21:24,629 anything greater than that thing 1908 01:21:24,754 --> 01:21:27,215 that I experienced last night. 1909 01:21:27,340 --> 01:21:29,009 โ€ There's only one match 1910 01:21:29,134 --> 01:21:31,720 that can be considered Match of the Year, 1911 01:21:31,803 --> 01:21:34,389 Shawn Michaels and the Undertaker. 1912 01:21:34,472 --> 01:21:38,393 [rock music playing] 1913 01:21:38,518 --> 01:21:42,814 โ€ Undertaker, I can beat you. 1914 01:21:42,856 --> 01:21:49,529 You and me, WrestleMania, one more time. 1915 01:21:49,654 --> 01:21:52,949 [cheers and applause] 1916 01:21:53,033 --> 01:21:56,411 โ€ So, I remember tuning into WrestleMania 26. 1917 01:21:56,494 --> 01:21:58,246 I had a knot in my stomach 1918 01:21:58,371 --> 01:22:02,125 knowing that if Shawn Michaels wasn't able to win this one 1919 01:22:02,208 --> 01:22:03,543 that he would retire. 1920 01:22:03,668 --> 01:22:05,503 But it was a beautiful, artistic way 1921 01:22:05,629 --> 01:22:08,048 to end the career of Shawn Michaels. 1922 01:22:08,173 --> 01:22:13,678 [cheers and applause] 1923 01:22:13,803 --> 01:22:18,391 โ€ One, two, three! [bell dings] 1924 01:22:18,475 --> 01:22:23,480 โ€ Shawn Michaels' career is over. 1925 01:22:23,563 --> 01:22:25,211 โ€ My heart was broken. My heart was broken. 1926 01:22:25,231 --> 01:22:27,984 But I'm glad also that he got to leave on his own terms. 1927 01:22:28,068 --> 01:22:30,695 โ€ It was important that I get out of there 1928 01:22:30,820 --> 01:22:34,074 to let the fans show him the appreciation he deserved. 1929 01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:38,620 [cheers and applause] 1930 01:22:38,703 --> 01:22:40,705 โ€ I have to imagine that Tom Brady 1931 01:22:40,830 --> 01:22:44,125 and Michael Jordan, as much as they appreciate the fans, 1932 01:22:44,209 --> 01:22:46,836 I think more than anything it's about their teammates 1933 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,173 and the people that they played that means the most to them. 1934 01:22:50,298 --> 01:22:53,093 [clapping] 1935 01:22:53,176 --> 01:22:55,095 [dramatic music] 1936 01:22:55,178 --> 01:22:57,639 A lot of time, there's still a chasing 1937 01:22:57,722 --> 01:22:59,015 of that last perfect one, 1938 01:22:59,140 --> 01:23:01,559 and that's why I'm so appreciative 1939 01:23:01,685 --> 01:23:03,812 that I can define some form of finish line. 1940 01:23:05,105 --> 01:23:07,107 There's two things that I thrive on, 1941 01:23:07,190 --> 01:23:08,505 it's two things that I'm in love with, 1942 01:23:08,525 --> 01:23:10,652 which is, you know, Rebecca and the kids, 1943 01:23:10,694 --> 01:23:12,070 and the wrestling business. 1944 01:23:12,153 --> 01:23:14,656 Oh, yeah, my team. 1945 01:23:14,781 --> 01:23:16,741 They're the two greatest loves of my life. 1946 01:23:16,866 --> 01:23:18,994 That's never changed. 1947 01:23:19,077 --> 01:23:21,705 [applause] 1948 01:23:23,248 --> 01:23:24,968 You've probably been to more ladder matches 1949 01:23:25,041 --> 01:23:27,836 than half the people in the ring, I would imagine. 1950 01:23:27,961 --> 01:23:29,587 [soft music] 1951 01:23:29,671 --> 01:23:32,215 And then stops, loads up theโ€โ€ 1952 01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:33,633 Whoa, he goes down. 1953 01:23:33,717 --> 01:23:36,469 โ€ It's awesome for me to have Shawn there. 1954 01:23:36,553 --> 01:23:38,013 I can tell you what he's thinking, 1955 01:23:38,138 --> 01:23:40,515 he can tell you what I'm thinking, 1956 01:23:40,598 --> 01:23:41,933 and there's a chemistry there. 1957 01:23:42,017 --> 01:23:43,039 We have this uncanny with each other. 1958 01:23:43,059 --> 01:23:44,811 โ€ There's just a little something in there 1959 01:23:44,853 --> 01:23:46,730 to do, just a small littleโ€โ€ 1960 01:23:46,813 --> 01:23:48,523 โ€ Shawn's, you know, a legend 1961 01:23:48,648 --> 01:23:52,402 and for a legend to walk into an environment 1962 01:23:52,527 --> 01:23:53,403 full of performers. 1963 01:23:53,528 --> 01:23:54,946 โ€ Go get them, boys. [laughs] 1964 01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:57,407 โ€ They revere him so much. 1965 01:23:57,490 --> 01:23:59,826 โ€ Welcome to NXT Takeover. 1966 01:23:59,909 --> 01:24:02,829 There is the North American Championship. 1967 01:24:02,912 --> 01:24:04,706 Who will climb the ladder? 1968 01:24:04,789 --> 01:24:06,374 โ€ Shawn has been a role model 1969 01:24:06,458 --> 01:24:08,251 both in and out of the ring. 1970 01:24:08,334 --> 01:24:09,753 โ€ Ding, ding, ding. 1971 01:24:09,836 --> 01:24:11,463 โ€ I have so much respect for that man, 1972 01:24:11,588 --> 01:24:14,299 for not just what he's done for professional wrestling, 1973 01:24:14,382 --> 01:24:15,613 but for the type of person he is. 1974 01:24:15,633 --> 01:24:16,801 โ€ [laughs] 1975 01:24:16,926 --> 01:24:20,472 โ€ To me and so many others, he's the greatest. 1976 01:24:20,555 --> 01:24:22,515 [all exclaiming] 1977 01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:26,186 And it's insane how kind, generous, 1978 01:24:26,311 --> 01:24:27,311 and humble the guy is. 1979 01:24:27,353 --> 01:24:28,772 โ€ That is good stuff. 1980 01:24:28,855 --> 01:24:31,524 โ€ Sometimes I think he doesn't realize 1981 01:24:31,649 --> 01:24:32,649 that he's Shawn Michaels. 1982 01:24:32,692 --> 01:24:36,780 Step carefully. Whoa! Gee. 1983 01:24:38,531 --> 01:24:41,701 Oh, my God! 1984 01:24:41,785 --> 01:24:43,119 That was frickin' great! 1985 01:24:43,203 --> 01:24:45,914 When you said a tale of two lives, 1986 01:24:46,039 --> 01:24:50,460 that's what it's been. 1987 01:24:50,585 --> 01:24:52,629 Believe it or not, the same business 1988 01:24:52,712 --> 01:24:54,839 that might have almost killed me, 1989 01:24:54,923 --> 01:24:57,050 I think, is the same business that saved me. 1990 01:24:57,133 --> 01:24:58,843 No, you did a great job, phenomenal. 1991 01:24:58,968 --> 01:25:00,136 Thank you very much. 1992 01:25:00,220 --> 01:25:02,764 โ€ These guys are easy to work with, soโ€โ€ 1993 01:25:02,847 --> 01:25:05,892 โ€ I know I accomplished more than what I wanted. 1994 01:25:06,017 --> 01:25:08,645 I never lost touch with the 19โ€yearโ€old dude 1995 01:25:08,770 --> 01:25:12,023 that was hoping to have a car and an apartment, 1996 01:25:12,107 --> 01:25:14,609 and be the Southwest Heavy weight champion. 1997 01:25:14,692 --> 01:25:16,986 A lot more has happened since then. 1998 01:25:17,070 --> 01:25:20,907 [applause] 1999 01:25:21,032 --> 01:25:23,159 Whoa! 2000 01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:25,203 Jiminy Cricket. 2001 01:25:25,328 --> 01:25:30,166 Holy Toledo. [laughs] 2002 01:25:30,208 --> 01:25:34,254 โ€ That's like the Shawn thing. That's like the Shawn dance. 2003 01:25:34,337 --> 01:25:37,465 โ€ Golly! 2004 01:25:37,549 --> 01:25:39,592 Frickin' awesome. 2005 01:25:39,676 --> 01:25:41,344 โ€ โ™ช I'm just a sexy boy 2006 01:25:41,469 --> 01:25:43,847 โ™ช Sexy boy 2007 01:25:43,930 --> 01:25:48,977 Oh, goodness gracious! That is good stuff. 160326

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