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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,939 --> 00:00:25,160 Previously on America Divided. 2 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:29,500 Where do I go out there? 3 00:00:40,379 --> 00:00:45,140 Go out here and take a look. Do you feel like Purdue is responsible ultimately 4 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:46,140 for the heroin epidemic? 5 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:50,060 Absolutely. Purdue Plummer committed a gross act of negligence. 6 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,580 This disease is hollowing out suburban and small town America. 7 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,920 Welcome back to the show. Fans of not being able to go to the bathroom without 8 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,480 your birth certificate scored a victory when North Carolina's governor signed 9 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:07,480 HB2. 10 00:01:07,900 --> 00:01:11,660 New law that people must use bathrooms of the gender on their birth 11 00:01:11,660 --> 00:01:15,960 certificates. Bathrooms. A lot of people are talking about bathrooms. I signed 12 00:01:15,960 --> 00:01:20,740 that bill because if I didn't, the expectation of privacy of North Carolina 13 00:01:20,740 --> 00:01:25,260 citizens. PayPal today canceled plans for a 400 job expansion. Could lose 14 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:30,200 roughly $2 billion in federal funds. That violates the federal civil rights 15 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:31,940 I told you we weren't done with 2010. 16 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:45,340 My name is Zach Galifianakis. 17 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:49,920 You know, as an important celebrity, I've been called a lot of things in my 18 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:56,080 life. Inspiration, genius, visionary, the guy with the beard from that movie. 19 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,720 But the label for which I'm most proud is North Carolinian. 20 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:01,520 And genius. 21 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:06,160 With so much love for North Carolina, I have to say these last few years have 22 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:07,280 been confusing. 23 00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:12,180 North Carolina used to be all about basketball and barbecue, but now... 24 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,560 Now it seems like it's all about bathrooms. 25 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,620 I thought talking about people using the bathroom was a job for comedians. 26 00:02:21,180 --> 00:02:23,700 Why are they so obsessed with bathrooms? 27 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:28,120 Is all this shouting about bathrooms really about something bigger? 28 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,960 So I call Ari Berman. 29 00:02:48,970 --> 00:02:52,230 Ari looks like your girlfriend's little brother, but he's been writing books and 30 00:02:52,230 --> 00:02:56,430 magazine stories about North Carolina for years. What's up? Well, I'm watching 31 00:02:56,430 --> 00:03:00,510 all this stuff that's going on in North Carolina, and it seems like the tensions 32 00:03:00,510 --> 00:03:04,150 and the energy keeps getting worse and worse and worse. Now there's this 33 00:03:04,150 --> 00:03:09,210 bathroom thing that's going on. And from there, you know, there were lefties, 34 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:10,210 there were righties. 35 00:03:10,460 --> 00:03:12,620 But we all kind of, there was a balance back then. 36 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,020 Why now does it seem like there's just the shift in one particular direction? 37 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:21,940 Well, in 2010, Republicans took control of the state for the first time since 38 00:03:21,940 --> 00:03:24,960 1896. A ton of money. 39 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:30,400 pumped in to local races that really swung the outcome. And that was, in many 40 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,500 ways, the untold story of the election. 41 00:03:32,740 --> 00:03:37,840 And we saw a dramatic shift to the right like we had never seen before in North 42 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:38,840 Carolina history. 43 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:43,660 Democratic Party essentially collapsed in North Carolina. It's one party rule, 44 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:47,160 and so the only opposition to their policies is really in the street. 45 00:03:47,860 --> 00:03:51,260 This was led by the North Carolina end of Lacey Heath. 46 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,900 The fact is, the NAACP is not just organizing in the big cities. They're 47 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:59,160 organizing in very rural, very white parts of the state. 48 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,940 They can say, it hasn't always been this way. We're a state that invested in 49 00:04:04,940 --> 00:04:09,160 public education, in the environment, that cared about voting rights, and now 50 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,160 we're moving backwards. 51 00:04:13,300 --> 00:04:17,820 After my call with Ari Berman, I want to know why all of this is happening to my 52 00:04:17,820 --> 00:04:18,820 home state. 53 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:22,300 All this stuff that I'm hearing about, Is it all connected? 54 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:26,020 And for me, this is not about Democrats or Republicans. 55 00:04:26,340 --> 00:04:29,140 This is coming more from a North Carolina point of view. 56 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,120 It's kind of a southern point of view. 57 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:35,120 It feels like somehow that North Carolina lost its way. 58 00:04:43,820 --> 00:04:49,480 It's a system that effectively sweeps millions of poor people into second 59 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,620 status. Did we invest in those communities? 60 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:53,640 No. Instead, we declared war. 61 00:04:55,240 --> 00:05:02,100 What we have today is a wealth gap that is 62 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:03,100 huge. 63 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,620 The working class has been hammered. 64 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:12,440 These are human beings. These are people. 65 00:05:12,820 --> 00:05:14,820 What can we do to get that point across? 66 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:26,300 telling us that we're not doing enough is causing us to explode. 67 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,320 It is not a matter of opinion anymore. 68 00:05:31,580 --> 00:05:32,900 It is clearly exposed. 69 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:40,240 What do we do? They can only win by 70 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:41,420 dividing America. 71 00:05:42,540 --> 00:05:46,420 We know that the way things are working are working at all. 72 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,640 That's right. 73 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:50,920 If you just keep pushing. 74 00:05:51,290 --> 00:05:57,610 If you just keep trying, if you refuse to let the nightmares have the last say, 75 00:05:57,770 --> 00:06:04,110 eventually the dark will break, the sun will come out, and you will be in a 76 00:06:04,110 --> 00:06:05,110 brand new day. 77 00:06:08,890 --> 00:06:12,050 If there's no struggle, there can be no progress. 78 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:41,200 You started working in this area 20 how many years ago? At least 26, I think 79 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:42,220 maybe 26 years. 80 00:06:42,540 --> 00:06:44,280 And there wasn't heroin here then? 81 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,560 Oh, no. 82 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:50,080 But the only thing we had was domestic violence. You know, people get drunk and 83 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,080 then they fight and that's it. 84 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,960 Right. But when this heroin started, that's when we started getting the 85 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:59,140 burglaries and the shootings and especially robbery. 86 00:07:01,450 --> 00:07:04,530 When did you start to go like, oh, this is an epidemic? 87 00:07:05,210 --> 00:07:07,510 I would say within the last year. 88 00:07:07,730 --> 00:07:12,590 Uh -huh. We started getting a lot of overdose from heroin coming in. 89 00:07:13,190 --> 00:07:15,490 We were not prepared at all. 90 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:20,870 As I ride along with Officer Willie Hooper on his nightly patrol, he tells 91 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:23,550 that overdoses are transforming the work of the police. 92 00:07:24,270 --> 00:07:27,270 In the battle to save lives, the police rely on Narcan. 93 00:07:28,060 --> 00:07:31,300 an anti -overdose drug that can bring someone back from the brink of death. 94 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,980 But as addicts overdose again and again, Narcan has done little to slow the 95 00:07:36,980 --> 00:07:37,980 epidemic. 96 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,280 139, go ahead. 97 00:07:41,340 --> 00:07:42,460 That's correct, we're on our way. 98 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:50,020 Do you feel like the number of ODs that you're seeing is going up? 99 00:07:50,380 --> 00:07:56,780 It's definitely going up, 100%. And the fatality rate is going up, right? 100 00:07:59,590 --> 00:08:02,030 Bring your medic down the alley. They're going to move the cruisers out of the 101 00:08:02,030 --> 00:08:03,030 way. 102 00:08:09,570 --> 00:08:11,090 How much Narcan they give her? 103 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:58,440 What I'm learning about undocumented people in the Rio Grande Valley applies 104 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,440 them everywhere. 105 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,840 They live life on a nice edge. 106 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:07,980 They know that millions have been deported, so they're insecure, 107 00:09:07,980 --> 00:09:08,980 exploitation. 108 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:11,820 Doing jobs no one else will. 109 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,680 They make these sacrifices so that their children can have a better life. 110 00:09:22,980 --> 00:09:27,820 But I'm hearing that over the past few years in Texas, Many families have been 111 00:09:27,820 --> 00:09:32,300 living in fear that even their American -born children, citizens of the United 112 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:33,940 States, are at risk. 113 00:10:01,750 --> 00:10:07,410 These women are telling me that in the past several years, across the state, 114 00:10:07,410 --> 00:10:11,950 registrars who issue birth certificates stopped accepting the matricula 115 00:10:11,950 --> 00:10:15,710 consular, the kind of ID undocumented immigrants carry. 116 00:10:16,380 --> 00:10:20,420 even though Texas used to accept it and other states still do. 117 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:31,280 Nor do the registrars accept the certificate of live 118 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:32,280 birth. 119 00:11:01,660 --> 00:11:08,660 I'm finding this really upsetting a birth certificate is so basic it's your 120 00:11:08,660 --> 00:11:09,660 proof of existence 121 00:11:10,220 --> 00:11:12,520 The thing you need to get all other ID. 122 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,880 What's going on here? 123 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,060 Is Texas trying to make the next generation stateless? 124 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,600 Y ellos cómo se sientan, ¿no? 125 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:50,620 Pues, a veces es triste y difícil porque, pues, mi niño abraza a los 126 00:11:50,820 --> 00:11:55,040 Dice, tú vas a ir a la escuela igual que yo. Dice, aunque no tengas el papel. 127 00:11:55,660 --> 00:12:01,900 Es muy difícil porque a veces nosotros estamos, a veces quizás en las sombras. 128 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:08,040 Y no contamos lo que en realidad pasamos como... 129 00:12:20,719 --> 00:12:24,140 But the undocumented families are fighting back. 130 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:28,580 They filed a lawsuit against the state for denying their babies the citizenship 131 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:31,120 guaranteed under the 14th Amendment. 132 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,320 Just like with those voter ID laws, Texas says it's trying to prevent fraud. 133 00:12:36,940 --> 00:12:40,980 But even the judge in the case calls this fraud an imaginary concern. 134 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:46,720 Attorney Jennifer Harbury says it's all part of an anti -immigrant campaign. 135 00:12:47,500 --> 00:12:52,000 Just like the whole offensive notion that immigrants are having anchor babies 136 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,000 they can stay here. 137 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:56,440 How do you see this issue of anchor babies? 138 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:00,240 in relation to the Constitution and to the 14th Amendment? 139 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:04,480 Well, it's preposterous. And let me begin by saying, you know, my father's 140 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:08,420 family and my father himself are all immigrants. They also came here running 141 00:13:08,420 --> 00:13:10,440 from extinction, let us just say. 142 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:17,440 So I'm an anchor baby then, right? But under the Constitution, the Due Process 143 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,740 Clause, 14th Amendment, it says anyone who is born in the United States is a 144 00:13:22,740 --> 00:13:25,200 citizen of the United States, period. 145 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,180 If Harbury's right, then how can the Texas policy stand? 146 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,160 And will it? 147 00:13:36,540 --> 00:13:43,240 I grew up around mountain people, and 148 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,220 they're about as conservative as they come. 149 00:13:45,820 --> 00:13:49,400 So if the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People has 150 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:53,560 chapters in these mountains, I want to see these folks for myself. 151 00:14:18,980 --> 00:14:25,760 Sure enough, this NAACP chapter is a little short on the C, unless you count 152 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,760 cake and coffee. 153 00:14:27,260 --> 00:14:29,260 I'll just grab a piece of this and we'll chat. 154 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,180 All of it's free? 155 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:34,560 It's a donation. 156 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:35,619 Oh, a donation. 157 00:14:35,620 --> 00:14:37,920 You know, there's always a donation box somewhere. 158 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:39,220 They always try to get you. 159 00:14:40,060 --> 00:14:41,500 Well, thanks for having me. 160 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:45,060 They have as many reasons to be here as there are members. 161 00:14:45,860 --> 00:14:47,680 Voting rights. School cuts. 162 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:53,140 Medicaid expansion, turning back of rights for women and gay people and 163 00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:57,400 Americans. Really, though, they are all sitting at this table because for them 164 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:01,420 it comes down to one thing, and that's the influence of money and how they 165 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:02,420 it's hijacked the state. 166 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,000 But couldn't this just be the Appalachian version of hippies smoking 167 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:10,640 love in hammocks, and complaining because the other side of North Carolina 168 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:11,640 for once? 169 00:15:14,980 --> 00:15:18,920 After the meeting, one of the members, Tracy Deaton, tells me that if that's 170 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,060 what I think, then she has someone I need to meet. Her father, Leroy. 171 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:26,400 Like most of the folks at the meeting, Tracy was born and raised Appalachian. 172 00:15:26,580 --> 00:15:30,740 And like most dangerous extremists, Tracy is a high school librarian. 173 00:15:31,980 --> 00:15:36,800 She joined the NAACP when the legislature targeted education for deep 174 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,500 education has always been one of the most treasured institutions in North 175 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:45,500 Carolina. My family has been in Mitchell County for my kids' ninth generation. 176 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:48,680 Huge advocates of public education. 177 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:52,220 Both my parents taught school, my husband's parents taught school. 178 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:57,740 So I became really involved and vocal with the attacks on public schools. 179 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,960 That was sort of my tipping point. 180 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,060 Any of the parents talk to you about this stuff and agree with you? 181 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:10,180 The parents I have spoken with are frustrated because the resources have 182 00:16:10,180 --> 00:16:14,880 really cut as far as the bigger class sizes. They tried to do away with 183 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,640 teacher's aides last year, and their salaries were frozen for six years. 184 00:16:19,580 --> 00:16:26,200 My family is deep in local politics. At the time when all this started 185 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,140 happening in North Carolina, my dad was a commissioner. 186 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:31,780 My brother was on the Board of Education. 187 00:16:32,020 --> 00:16:33,220 My mother was on the City Council. 188 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:34,640 Under what party? 189 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:36,100 Other Republicans. 190 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Yeah. 191 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:43,100 Hi. Okay. 192 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:48,100 I understand that you and your family come from more of a Republican 193 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:51,220 Right. People just choked when you said that. 194 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:57,980 What do you mean by that? I changed my affiliation from Republican to 195 00:16:57,980 --> 00:16:59,000 unaffiliated. Right. 196 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:03,220 Walk us through when you came to the point where you're like, I cannot be 197 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:06,079 associated with this group. 198 00:17:06,380 --> 00:17:11,060 There were several things that played into it. They started picking away at 199 00:17:11,060 --> 00:17:15,280 educational system. And teachers became the whipping boy. Education became the 200 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,118 whipping boy. 201 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,800 The other thing was some of the health care issues. 202 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:21,839 And it really became personal. 203 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:23,900 I'll try not to get emotional. 204 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Tracy and Sam have a very autistic child. 205 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:35,660 And the demands to meet his needs medically, socially, family, 206 00:17:35,940 --> 00:17:37,620 everything is just tremendous. 207 00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:43,920 And as an example, when he had to go to the dentist and he didn't understand 208 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,880 that they're going to put a mask on your face or they're going to put a drill in 209 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,660 your mouth or they're going to do this. He was uncontrollable, unconsolable. 210 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,540 So they needed to put him to sleep. Well, insurance wouldn't pay for it. 211 00:17:54,910 --> 00:17:59,930 And it was $750 or so to have him put to sleep. So they had to put this child in 212 00:17:59,930 --> 00:18:00,930 a straitjacket. 213 00:18:01,030 --> 00:18:04,850 Tracy had to get at his head and hold his shoulders and head. And Sam had to 214 00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:06,190 to his feet and hold his feet. 215 00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:09,890 Leroy tells me there was a bill proposed that would have made the insurance 216 00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:12,770 companies pay for the kind of care his grandson Zeke needed. 217 00:18:13,550 --> 00:18:20,170 That sat on our senator's desk, his committee, for three years. 218 00:18:21,090 --> 00:18:23,950 But what made you connect that dot? 219 00:18:24,510 --> 00:18:31,470 that the reason Zeke's not getting proper care is because of what's 220 00:18:31,470 --> 00:18:32,590 going on politically. 221 00:18:33,390 --> 00:18:36,290 Politically, that they're taking care of Blue Cross and Blue Shield. 222 00:18:36,630 --> 00:18:38,370 That's who finances their campaigns. 223 00:18:38,670 --> 00:18:42,370 I mean, see where their campaign contributions came from, and you're 224 00:18:42,370 --> 00:18:46,470 see pharmaceuticals, and you're going to see insurance companies. They're all in 225 00:18:46,470 --> 00:18:47,470 bed together. 226 00:18:47,510 --> 00:18:50,050 And we're talking to people that used to be Republicans. 227 00:18:51,050 --> 00:18:56,390 Yeah. You too. Yeah. Yeah. And still want to be a Republican. So this 228 00:18:56,390 --> 00:19:00,270 that you're saying to me seems like common sense. 229 00:19:01,150 --> 00:19:06,930 It does to me too. No matter if you're lefty, righty. Righty, we're all humans. 230 00:19:11,510 --> 00:19:12,770 We're all humans. 231 00:19:13,370 --> 00:19:16,590 That sounds more like the North Carolina where I grew up. 232 00:19:17,350 --> 00:19:21,090 But it seems like you can't take it for granted anymore that North Carolina is a 233 00:19:21,090 --> 00:19:24,570 place that educates its kids or takes care of its disabled. 234 00:19:25,290 --> 00:19:29,710 It feels like some kind of basic decency is missing from all this. 235 00:19:30,330 --> 00:19:34,330 The problem is, I'm still not any closer to really understanding why. 236 00:19:35,950 --> 00:19:40,310 Maybe I'm not smart enough to figure it out for myself, but I found someone who 237 00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:41,310 is. 238 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,520 It's been a couple of weeks since my trip to Dayton, but I'm still reeling 239 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:50,520 the experience. 240 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:55,580 I learned so much about the origins of the addiction crisis, but now I want to 241 00:19:55,580 --> 00:19:57,120 know, why Dayton? 242 00:19:58,340 --> 00:20:01,700 I've read that two economists at Princeton University have come up with 243 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:04,800 intriguing insight into the crisis, which might hold the answer. 244 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,640 A connection between the rising death toll and middle America's economic 245 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:10,640 decline. 246 00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:16,290 Professors Anne Case and her Nobel Prize -winning husband, Angus Deaton, have 247 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:18,970 long studied inequality, poverty, and health. 248 00:20:20,110 --> 00:20:25,570 So the mortality rates in middle age in all of the European countries and among 249 00:20:25,570 --> 00:20:30,490 Hispanics and blacks in America has been falling at about 2 % a year. 250 00:20:30,770 --> 00:20:35,770 And that's been going on for 100 years. But in the late 1990s, among white non 251 00:20:35,770 --> 00:20:39,390 -Hispanics, the rates started to rise at about half a percent a year. 252 00:20:40,140 --> 00:20:44,600 So the rest of the developed world continuing to fall, suddenly you see 253 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:51,020 wedge building between whites in America and all of the sister countries we 254 00:20:51,020 --> 00:20:52,280 might compare ourselves to. 255 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,740 When you had that moment of discovering that it was higher there, was that 256 00:20:56,740 --> 00:21:00,100 surprising? You know, at that point we almost fell off our chairs because this 257 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:03,580 is not supposed to happen. We really thought we must have made a mistake. 258 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,680 So give me an idea of what the scale of this problem is. 259 00:21:08,010 --> 00:21:14,170 From year 2000 to 2014, if the death rates had stayed at what they had been 260 00:21:14,170 --> 00:21:20,270 1999, about 200 ,000 people in middle age would not have died. 261 00:21:21,150 --> 00:21:24,070 And that's why it's equally split between men and women. 262 00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:28,250 Cancer and heart disease continue to go down. So we think, okay, it must be 263 00:21:28,250 --> 00:21:31,450 traffic accidents that have gone up, or it must be murders that have gone up. 264 00:21:31,530 --> 00:21:35,250 They're still going down. And then there it was, and it's accidental overdoses. 265 00:21:35,830 --> 00:21:41,550 Almost in lockstep, suicide and drug overdoses are going up in tandem. 266 00:21:41,770 --> 00:21:46,870 And cirrhosis and alcoholic liver disease have also risen really 267 00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:52,830 When we put those together, we think of them as being all deaths of despair. 268 00:21:53,250 --> 00:21:57,510 Is it about the decline of working class jobs? 269 00:21:58,110 --> 00:22:02,230 The working class have been hammered with a high school degree used to be 270 00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:06,230 to get a good job with benefits, with on -the -job training. 271 00:22:06,630 --> 00:22:10,450 A lot of those jobs went overseas, and they're not coming back. 272 00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:22,650 Sandra, one of the moms I met, says she's gone to Edinburgh City Hall four 273 00:22:22,650 --> 00:22:26,210 and still hasn't succeeded in getting a birth certificate for her baby. 274 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,100 She's hoping things will be different if I come with her. 275 00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:57,670 All things that if you're undocumented are impossible to get. 276 00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:04,630 So then parents who are undocumented but their children are born here in the U 277 00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:06,550 .S. can't get their kids birth certificates? 278 00:23:06,990 --> 00:23:12,850 But isn't that enough to be considered an American citizen that you were born 279 00:23:12,850 --> 00:23:13,850 the United States? 280 00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:16,870 I'm not denying that at all. 281 00:23:17,340 --> 00:23:21,980 What I'm saying is, if she is a mother and she's not a U .S. born, then this is 282 00:23:21,980 --> 00:23:23,300 what we require from her. 283 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,500 And so her next option is what? 284 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:32,100 In a case like this, I can refer her and have her send all the documents that 285 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:35,320 she's got to Austin, see if Austin will accept that. 286 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:36,580 Okay. 287 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,260 Is there anything that I can help you all with? Yeah, actually, yeah. I'd love 288 00:23:40,260 --> 00:23:42,000 for you to clarify this document. 289 00:23:54,659 --> 00:23:57,520 If you go through the state of Texas, yeah. 290 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,280 Then they will accept that ID and other forms of proof of residence? 291 00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:03,880 Yes. And when did they start handing out this form? 292 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:05,260 It's been years. 293 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,740 Well, she's been here four times and she said no one has ever given her this 294 00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:11,640 form or explained it to her. She probably didn't ask the right questions 295 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,559 don't know if... 296 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,680 She understood or not. 297 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:16,260 These are in English. 298 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:18,560 Do you have the applications in Spanish? 299 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,360 These applications are in English. Let me see if we have it in Spanish. 300 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:24,100 Okay. Thank you. 301 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:38,300 Apparently the state does not 302 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:39,300 operate in Spanish. 303 00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:41,750 So it has to be translated. 304 00:24:42,670 --> 00:24:45,750 Okay. That seems crazy, doesn't it? 305 00:24:46,290 --> 00:24:47,290 State of Texas. 306 00:24:49,970 --> 00:24:54,550 Attorneys for the family suing the state told me that parents have mailed in 307 00:24:54,550 --> 00:24:58,370 these exact documents and still have been denied birth certificates. 308 00:25:01,150 --> 00:25:05,510 Months later, Texas agreed to settle the birth certificate case and loosen up 309 00:25:05,510 --> 00:25:06,510 the ID requirements. 310 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:11,620 Attorneys for the families believe they've won a victory, but say they 311 00:25:11,620 --> 00:25:12,700 won't know for a while. 312 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:16,380 The state has nine months to comply with the agreement. 313 00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:25,940 After my time in the mountains, I'm hoping Gene Nickel can help me get to 314 00:25:25,940 --> 00:25:27,960 bottom of the changes I'm seeing in North Carolina. 315 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:33,400 Nickel is a UNC law professor who has made speaking up for North Carolina's 316 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,700 his mission in life. 317 00:25:35,980 --> 00:25:39,960 So, of course, the Internet trolls say he's a fraud and the legislature wanted 318 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,960 him fired. 319 00:25:41,060 --> 00:25:46,280 We have in North Carolina the fastest growing poverty rate in the country. 320 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,340 And we have folks who took over the government four or five years ago and 321 00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:53,080 decided, looking at that, OK, here's what we're going to do. 322 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,320 We're going to usher in the largest cut. 323 00:25:56,270 --> 00:26:02,110 unemployment compensation in American history. We kicked 100 ,000 people off 324 00:26:02,110 --> 00:26:06,270 food stamps. We're going to kick 500 ,000 people off of Medicaid. 325 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:10,930 And then studies out of Harvard indicate that that single decision means that 326 00:26:10,930 --> 00:26:14,210 every year, probably 1 ,000 people in North Carolina are going to die. 327 00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:18,490 The world is upside down in this theology. 328 00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:21,650 It seems completely opposite the way it needs to be. 329 00:26:21,980 --> 00:26:28,280 I think it's fair to say that we have a government which is presently operating 330 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:33,060 in bold contrast and opposition to the fundamental values of the people of 331 00:26:33,060 --> 00:26:37,000 Carolina. But not to get too political, because I'm just a serious journalist. I 332 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,000 know, I know. 333 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,340 That's right, bad Jesus. 334 00:26:40,580 --> 00:26:43,960 Yeah, some people know me from The Hangover. Those days are long gone. 335 00:26:45,460 --> 00:26:48,480 How do these people get in power? What is the... 336 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,840 When we step back and look at these policies and we go, how were we fooled 337 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,520 tricked or how does that happen? How does it happen? Well, you know, part of 338 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:02,280 is money and politics. The relationship between money and politics drives our 339 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,920 politics, makes political leaders and campaigns more congenial to those who 340 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,800 powerful economic interests. There's just giant social study that's been 341 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:17,740 released, finding once again that the interest of the bottom quarter of 342 00:27:17,740 --> 00:27:18,740 Americans. 343 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,600 Has no impact. 344 00:27:21,180 --> 00:27:28,080 Not a little impact. Not underrated impact. Has no impact on the outcomes 345 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,860 of the legislative process in the United States Congress. 346 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,440 Citizens United sort of blew the roof off. 347 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:39,640 It said for the first time in American history that corporations can spend 348 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,660 unlimited amounts of their treasuries on American political process. 349 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,040 The dollars spent by large corporate interests in our politics. 350 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:52,830 They're very wise investments. They pay heavily. In North Carolina, they 351 00:27:52,830 --> 00:27:57,890 typically want two things. One, they want tax breaks, but they probably weigh 352 00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:02,150 even more heavily on the regulatory side. So they want to make sure that we 353 00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:05,730 don't have what they consider strangling regulation. 354 00:28:09,490 --> 00:28:14,710 So one of the ways that plays out in North Carolina is powerful economic 355 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:17,590 interests trumping environmental concerns. 356 00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:31,480 After listening to Case and Deaton, I feel compelled to return to Dayton. 357 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,720 As I pass empty lots and boarded up buildings, I keep hearing Anne Case's 358 00:28:38,020 --> 00:28:39,580 deaths of despair. 359 00:28:44,860 --> 00:28:48,220 It's hard to reconcile what I'm seeing with what I've learned of the city's 360 00:28:48,220 --> 00:28:51,120 past. The Silicon Valley of its day. 361 00:28:51,860 --> 00:28:55,900 Dayton once claimed more patents per capita than any other U .S. city. 362 00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:58,660 It was a thriving middle -class community. 363 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,140 But beginning in the 1970s, the kind of work that once made middle America 364 00:29:04,140 --> 00:29:06,060 thrive began to disappear. 365 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:13,880 Dayton held out longer than most, but in more recent decades, its industry and 366 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,580 its population began to dwindle. 367 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:21,440 Now the city and its workers have struggled to find an economic future. 368 00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:26,550 We are excited to have you here to learn more about this great opportunity to be 369 00:29:26,550 --> 00:29:31,010 in on the ground floor with this growing, innovative, global company. 370 00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:35,910 Thank you. All right. How's everybody doing? 371 00:29:36,290 --> 00:29:37,269 All right. Good? 372 00:29:37,270 --> 00:29:38,169 All right. 373 00:29:38,170 --> 00:29:45,090 So our facility is the world's largest facility for making automotive 374 00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:48,430 glass. It's right here. Right here in this area. 375 00:29:49,420 --> 00:29:54,300 After we hire you, you're going to be put under like a 90 -day probation 376 00:29:54,820 --> 00:29:56,440 It's $12 an hour. 377 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:02,780 Once you become a Fumio employee, you automatically get $12 .84. 378 00:30:04,540 --> 00:30:05,540 $12 .84. 379 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,680 Plenty of opportunities, ladies and gentlemen. 380 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:10,120 Plenty of opportunities. 381 00:30:14,180 --> 00:30:15,660 Here's the railroad tracks. 382 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,780 And nothing really has moved into this area? 383 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,460 No. I mean, other than FUYA. 384 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:26,220 This whole area was basically GM. I mean, at one point, like city blocks 385 00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:27,220 city blocks. 386 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,460 How many jobs would you estimate that this supported at one point? 387 00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:33,440 I'm sure well over 10 ,000 people. 388 00:30:34,780 --> 00:30:37,500 Smaller manufacturers, which there's quite a few around here, too, that were 389 00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:38,500 like part suppliers. 390 00:30:38,780 --> 00:30:41,160 Right. So when the truck plant closed, they closed. 391 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,740 And then because they closed, this place closed. And it's this domino effect 392 00:30:44,740 --> 00:30:48,860 that ripples out from the center of GM for miles and miles, frankly, and I'll 393 00:30:48,860 --> 00:30:53,760 update the mechanic down to, you know, a pizza place up the street. 394 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:59,260 This whole area used to live or die basically by this plant. 395 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,920 Matt Clark is an organizer for the IUECWA. 396 00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:08,540 the union that represented workers at the storied GM Moraine truck and bus 397 00:31:08,540 --> 00:31:09,540 plant. 398 00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:14,220 It is now home to the Chinese auto glass manufacturer, Fuyao. 399 00:31:14,660 --> 00:31:19,600 This bar that we're in right now would normally be a pretty hopping place. 400 00:31:19,620 --> 00:31:23,140 it was. I mean, you know, the first factory job I had was almost right after 401 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:26,400 high school. I got hired in right next door here at Moraine Assembly. 402 00:31:27,409 --> 00:31:29,410 And this place was crowded. 403 00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:31,470 It's changed drastically. 404 00:31:32,250 --> 00:31:34,670 And by like 2006, plants are closing. 405 00:31:35,010 --> 00:31:38,310 So now all of a sudden, people can't pay their mortgage. 406 00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:44,170 At the same time, you can't sell a house because the housing market is crap. 407 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:47,770 So then you end up with all these foreclosures. Everyone starts bailing 408 00:31:47,770 --> 00:31:50,410 right. Now what you have is abandoned houses. 409 00:31:51,260 --> 00:31:55,840 everywhere all through Dayton. And abandoned houses means, you know, an 410 00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:02,560 unfortunate element growing within that drug use and this influx of 411 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,320 drugs, particularly heroin. 412 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:09,960 If I'm wanting to stay in Dayton to work, where am I looking to get one of 413 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:16,280 jobs that's like a job where I can have some kind of house and a family? I think 414 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,150 that's... It's increasingly difficult here. 415 00:32:20,170 --> 00:32:24,830 Obviously, the new employer that's moved into the old Marin Assembly Plant is 416 00:32:24,830 --> 00:32:28,470 doing foo -yow. I know quite a few people that are working in there. When I 417 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:33,230 to those people, they say, this is nothing compared to what we had, and I'm 418 00:32:33,230 --> 00:32:36,850 making half of what I used to make. Let's talk about the young people. 419 00:32:37,050 --> 00:32:42,290 What are they looking forward to? What are their expectations, the 2 .5 kids in 420 00:32:42,290 --> 00:32:43,350 the house and all that stability? 421 00:32:43,770 --> 00:32:45,910 It doesn't seem like that's out there. It's not. 422 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:50,300 They probably had parents that worked at those plants or other family members or 423 00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:53,880 grandparents, whatever the case may be, and they see what happened. 424 00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:58,560 I mean, let's be honest. If I'm an 18-, 19 -year -old kid in Dayton, if I was to 425 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,620 drive over here and drive around here, it would not look like a bright and 426 00:33:02,620 --> 00:33:03,680 shining future for me. 427 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:10,320 I think, unfortunately, there is a sense of despair and a nasty sense of anger. 428 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,560 I think in terms of almost feeling... 429 00:33:13,020 --> 00:33:17,860 betrayed in a way. And I think a lot of people in this country right now have a 430 00:33:17,860 --> 00:33:23,660 hard time placing that anger. Right, but I see this generation really paying the 431 00:33:23,660 --> 00:33:28,960 price. A lot of them that we've met that are the ones that are dying of heroin 432 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,160 overdoses. I don't know how it gets better just yet. 433 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:40,380 I'd like to see something done about the illegal alien problem that would be so 434 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:45,640 sensitive and so understanding about labor needs and human needs that that 435 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:50,600 problem wouldn't come up. As we have kind of made illegal some kinds of labor 436 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,360 that I'd like to see legal, we're doing two things. We're creating a whole 437 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,580 society of really honorable, decent, family -loving people that are in 438 00:33:59,580 --> 00:34:02,940 of the law. And secondly, we're exacerbating relations with Mexico. 439 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,460 They're talking about putting up a fence. 440 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,820 Why don't we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible 441 00:34:11,820 --> 00:34:15,400 for them to come here legally with a work permit, and then while they're 442 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,800 and earning here, they pay taxes here. 443 00:34:18,020 --> 00:34:21,340 And when they want to go back, they can go back, and they can cross and open the 444 00:34:21,340 --> 00:34:22,340 border both ways. 445 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:27,600 Ronald Reagan and George Bush Sr. didn't quite open the border. But as 446 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,540 president, each did extend legal status to millions of undocumented immigrants 447 00:34:32,540 --> 00:34:33,760 living in the U .S. 448 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,800 So how did we go from that to this? 449 00:34:38,380 --> 00:34:41,739 Listen, we should enforce the law. How do we enforce the law? Yes, we should 450 00:34:41,739 --> 00:34:44,500 deport them. We should build a wall. We should triple the border patrol. 451 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,760 When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. 452 00:34:49,179 --> 00:34:50,420 They're not sending you. 453 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:51,880 They're not sending you. 454 00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:55,980 They're sending people that have lots of problems. 455 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:57,580 They're bringing drugs. 456 00:34:58,140 --> 00:34:59,260 They're bringing crime. 457 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:03,460 They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people. 458 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,740 criminals and rapists. 459 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,440 I've seen multiple studies which indicate that violent crime among 460 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:14,420 immigrants is actually lower than in the general population. 461 00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:19,060 I need to talk to someone who can explain the attitude shift. 462 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:23,960 So I'm going to meet with Dan Stein, the head of a group called the Federation 463 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,800 for American Immigration Reform, FAIR, a lobbying group based in Washington, D 464 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,380 .C. They believe we're letting too many people in. 465 00:35:33,710 --> 00:35:35,470 both illegals and legals. 466 00:35:37,010 --> 00:35:40,310 Given where I've been, I decide to start with the babies. 467 00:35:41,930 --> 00:35:44,470 You've used the term anchor babies. 468 00:35:44,770 --> 00:35:46,850 Can you tell me what you mean by that term? 469 00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:49,490 It's an anchor. It's a grappling hook. It's an attachment. 470 00:35:49,750 --> 00:35:53,390 It's a foot in the door. And I don't understand why that's derogatory, by the 471 00:35:53,390 --> 00:35:56,810 way, but some people seem to feel it is, but it's descriptive of the fact that 472 00:35:56,810 --> 00:36:00,010 it provides a foot in the door. I think people come to this country and then 473 00:36:00,010 --> 00:36:03,070 have the babies so that they won't get kicked out. 474 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,640 there are many, many reasons why people come to this country. Nobody comes to 475 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,200 this country devoid of understanding or information about how U .S. law works. 476 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:19,200 I recently saw a clip of the 1980 presidential debate between George 477 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:19,999 Bush Sr. 478 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:25,340 and Ronald Reagan where they talked about immigration and spoke of... 479 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,120 undocumented immigrants in this country being good people, hardworking people, 480 00:36:30,260 --> 00:36:33,460 people that we should find more kindness and compassion. 481 00:36:33,780 --> 00:36:37,540 I mean, these are the words that came out of these two conservative heroes' 482 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:44,240 mouths. What has changed so dramatically that 483 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,560 between then and now? 484 00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:49,700 It isn't fair to attribute border anarchy. 485 00:36:50,110 --> 00:36:51,110 to compassion. 486 00:36:51,330 --> 00:36:54,530 It's not a compassionate position to say that anybody can just run into the 487 00:36:54,530 --> 00:36:57,610 country and be expected to be treated like everybody else. 488 00:36:57,830 --> 00:37:04,150 The conversation around who these people are has gone from 489 00:37:05,330 --> 00:37:08,970 hardworking immigrants who are here to make a better life for themselves and 490 00:37:08,970 --> 00:37:13,330 their children to something very, very different in this present day. First of 491 00:37:13,330 --> 00:37:17,330 all, 1980 was a very long time ago. And I'm here to tell you that the American 492 00:37:17,330 --> 00:37:22,430 people have been incredibly hospitable, generous, and open in going through some 493 00:37:22,430 --> 00:37:26,170 of the biggest demographic changes in any nation in the history of the world. 494 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,460 And here we are today having a debate right now over whether or not the 495 00:37:30,460 --> 00:37:32,920 government even has the credibility to control our borders. 496 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:38,200 Okay, so the reality is that at the moment there are 11 million or more 497 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:43,020 undocumented immigrants living in this country. 498 00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:48,240 What is your wish for that 11 million? 499 00:37:49,339 --> 00:37:53,140 What would you, if you had your way... Some of them could probably stay. Some 500 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:55,240 them will have to go home. So are you saying they should be removed? 501 00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:58,840 Well, not all at once, but there's a process by which you encourage people to 502 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,180 leave. Some people would be put in deportation proceedings. Some people 503 00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:02,979 back home. 504 00:38:02,980 --> 00:38:06,500 Nothing about the law, nothing about Congress, nothing about the American 505 00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:10,040 have ever said, the way you immigrate here is to break the law and then wait 506 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,700 around for the next amnesty program. 507 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,740 I guess we're at an impasse. 508 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,900 Where I see refugees and people struggling to make a better life for 509 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:24,320 children, Dan Stein sees lawbreakers, pure and simple. 510 00:38:25,540 --> 00:38:27,640 But could it be that cut and dry? 511 00:38:28,660 --> 00:38:32,980 I'm going to be meeting a young woman whose story I've heard is anything but 512 00:38:32,980 --> 00:38:33,980 straightforward. 513 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,740 In North Carolina these days, it's easy to forget in the middle of all of our 514 00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:50,040 political battles, we've been fighting an environmental battle, too. 515 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,300 When you take a closer look, though, you quickly understand that, like so much 516 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:57,740 of what I've seen since I came home, it's hard to separate one from the 517 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,600 A spill in North Carolina, thousands of pounds of ash dumped into the Dan River. 518 00:39:02,740 --> 00:39:07,060 One of the largest spills of coal ash ever reported in American history. 519 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:12,300 Officials estimate that as much as 82 ,000 tons of ash were released into the 520 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:14,100 river. And it's been spreading ever since. 521 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,700 So I didn't know what coal ash was either, but if you think about it, it's 522 00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,800 of simple. Coal ash is what is left after you burn coal. 523 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,540 This stuff has been piling up for decades. 524 00:39:27,470 --> 00:39:31,290 They keep a lot of it in what are pretty much lakes of coal ash mud. 525 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:37,410 In the big spill, one of these coal ash lakes dumped into the Dan River. 526 00:39:38,710 --> 00:39:43,990 The ash contains heavy metals and hexavelic chromium, the Aaron Brockovich 527 00:39:43,990 --> 00:39:46,270 chemical, and it's kind of radioactive. 528 00:39:47,750 --> 00:39:52,310 If it's in your groundwater, it is probably a pretty good recipe for cancer 529 00:39:52,310 --> 00:39:53,310 heart and lung disease. 530 00:39:54,670 --> 00:39:57,990 The coal ash belonged to North Carolina's governor, Pat McCrory's 531 00:39:57,990 --> 00:40:02,970 former employer, Duke Energy. His administration has, over the last year, 532 00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:07,230 shielding his old company from lawsuits filed by local environmental groups. 533 00:40:07,590 --> 00:40:11,470 So sorry about this, but here are some numbers that I learned about Duke and 534 00:40:11,470 --> 00:40:12,470 Governor McCrory. 535 00:40:13,290 --> 00:40:17,250 North Carolina Governor Pat McCrory worked for Duke for 29 years. 536 00:40:17,550 --> 00:40:22,400 The year before McCrory decided to run for governor, Duke gave the Republican 537 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,580 organization that helps governors get elected $15 ,000. 538 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:33,060 The year of the coal ash spill, they gave that same organization $3 million. 539 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,720 And here are four more numbers. I'm sorry. Stay focused. 540 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:45,900 After the spill that poisoned the Dan River, the state fined Duke, a $23 541 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:49,040 company, a little less than $100 ,000. 542 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,800 That's like someone making $60 ,000 a year and getting fined 30 cents. 543 00:40:56,340 --> 00:41:01,060 It seems to me like the $3 million, that was a pretty good investment. 544 00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:09,760 When the Duke Energy Plant began its operations in the early 1970s, fly ash 545 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,580 would fall on our land, rooftops of our homes and our vehicles and cover them 546 00:41:14,580 --> 00:41:17,480 worse than the pollen in the springtime around here. 547 00:41:18,060 --> 00:41:21,100 We could write our names on the cars because it was just that thick. 548 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,780 As a child, I had problems with my bladder. 549 00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:27,500 My mother developed heart problems. 550 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:34,560 They ended up causing her death on September 28, 2014, of a massive heart 551 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:35,560 attack. 552 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,160 You can't drive two miles in either direction of the power plant without 553 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,580 a family that has dealt with such illnesses. 554 00:41:43,980 --> 00:41:48,320 My father was a 32 -year veteran of the Department of Environmental Quality. 555 00:41:48,820 --> 00:41:51,180 I started with the division in 2004. 556 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,900 I was proud of my job, and I was proud of my agency. 557 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,820 But I walked away from all of it in 2013 because I could no longer in good 558 00:42:00,820 --> 00:42:05,360 conscience stay with an agency that was being dismantled and redirected into a 559 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,560 pro -corporation, polluter -friendly agency. 560 00:42:08,590 --> 00:42:12,890 DEQ press releases these days read more like a re -election ad than 561 00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:14,130 environmental position statement. 562 00:42:14,470 --> 00:42:18,590 We are just tired of people dying and that's not necessary. 563 00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:24,290 The people that are in position to make decisions to move things are not 564 00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:25,290 listening. 565 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:31,760 So evidently there's something else involved that stimulate them and that 566 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,220 be money that is placed in their pockets. 567 00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:39,280 I serve as Duke Energy's Environmental Affairs Director for North Carolina. 568 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,260 is a complicated issue, but we're focused on trying to get it right. 569 00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:49,760 The people are tired of this being politicized. We are dying with... 570 00:42:50,110 --> 00:42:54,310 undrinkable water, then we won't help. We don't care about your re -election 571 00:42:54,310 --> 00:42:57,390 bids or none of that. We won't help because we're dying. 572 00:42:58,250 --> 00:43:04,110 To see the heartache in my child's face because she knows I'm sick, 573 00:43:04,370 --> 00:43:06,630 that's heartbreaking for me. 574 00:43:07,870 --> 00:43:13,670 I don't want the next generation to have to face the same things that we're 575 00:43:13,670 --> 00:43:14,670 facing now. 576 00:43:14,950 --> 00:43:18,670 And that's why I'll continue to speak up for justice. 577 00:43:21,130 --> 00:43:22,130 Thank you. 578 00:43:22,790 --> 00:43:23,790 Thank you. 579 00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:40,710 I had three strokes, and then I had a heart attack. 580 00:43:41,210 --> 00:43:43,250 I had to get cysts put in my heart. 581 00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:49,650 These are the mounds of coal ash right here to my left. 582 00:43:50,220 --> 00:43:51,220 Covered with grass. 583 00:43:52,180 --> 00:43:54,060 That's all coal ash underneath that? 584 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,400 Yeah. 585 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,940 Do you know most people on both sides of the road? 586 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,200 Yes, I do. 587 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:06,240 The Harrison's residence right here, their father had lung cancer. And 588 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:07,240 the house right here. 589 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,820 Him and his wife both passed away from cancer. 590 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,120 Now we're getting ready to approach Goolsby's trailer park. 591 00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:16,020 They received do not drink letters. 592 00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:19,770 This whole trailer park is contaminated water. 593 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:24,730 And what's the explanation behind it? They want to say it's naturally 594 00:44:25,690 --> 00:44:26,770 That's what they want to say. 595 00:44:30,950 --> 00:44:32,750 If they do know, then why? 596 00:44:33,990 --> 00:44:35,090 Then what is that? 597 00:44:35,530 --> 00:44:37,050 If they know and they don't care. 598 00:44:37,650 --> 00:44:39,930 Money? Greed? The almighty dollar. 599 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:43,870 It's the root of all evil. It's what it says in the Bible. 600 00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:45,770 And I do believe it. 601 00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,720 Because they'll do anything for it. 602 00:45:00,740 --> 00:45:04,520 This is where my mother, Annie, is laid to rest. 603 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:12,880 And as far as your mom's legacy and as far as your mom, what do you think she 604 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:13,880 needs you to do? 605 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,110 Continue. I mean, I just can't give up. 606 00:45:17,490 --> 00:45:18,490 It's that simple. 607 00:45:18,710 --> 00:45:19,710 It's that simple. 608 00:45:26,110 --> 00:45:32,530 Even though the birth certificate case has been settled 609 00:45:32,530 --> 00:45:37,170 for now, I hear that there are many Americans who are struggling to prove 610 00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:38,170 full citizenship. 611 00:45:40,310 --> 00:45:44,010 And I'm going to meet a woman in New York who says this happened to her. 612 00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:50,120 Claudia Palacios is an activist for immigrant rights and considers herself a 613 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:56,120 radical, which you might find surprising because for years, Claudia was a United 614 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:57,120 States Marine. 615 00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,300 What did you do when you were a Marine? 616 00:46:01,540 --> 00:46:02,900 I was a combat photographer. 617 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:08,280 Oh, wow. So I would embed in different teams and just capture what was 618 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,380 happening. Where are you from originally? 619 00:46:10,860 --> 00:46:12,960 My parents migrated to the state of Texas. 620 00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:17,520 So you're first generation born in the U .S.? I am, yes. I'm first born and 621 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:23,260 first generation indigenous Mexican migrants, yes. And were you born in a 622 00:46:23,260 --> 00:46:25,260 of traditional Texas hospital? 623 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:30,520 No, I was not. Due to fear of deportation, my mother chose not to. 624 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,340 give birth in a hospital. 625 00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:37,140 I was born through a midwife, and midwifery in Texas is very common. 626 00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:41,420 They're allowed to file certificates, and then those are presented to the 627 00:46:41,420 --> 00:46:46,440 of Texas, and then you're supposed to, like, get a vital record. It says that 628 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,420 you were born in U .S. territory. 629 00:46:48,780 --> 00:46:53,100 You're granted, like, social security and all these other things, but what 630 00:46:53,100 --> 00:46:54,680 you're not granted is a birth certificate. 631 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,860 So when you signed up for the Marines, what documents did they ask you for? 632 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,340 This is actually the paper that I gave to my recruiter. 633 00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,120 And it's what was signed by the midwife. 634 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,120 I mean, this is enough. 635 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:14,260 And I joined as a citizen, not as a migrant, not as like anything else. I am 636 00:47:14,260 --> 00:47:15,260 a citizen. 637 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:21,520 When I joined the military, my mother and little sister decided that like they 638 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,220 were going to migrate back to Mexico. And at that point, I was in Okinawa, 639 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:27,480 Japan. I applied for a passport. 640 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,020 And that was the first time I was denied. 641 00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:32,600 It was unreal. 642 00:47:32,860 --> 00:47:34,100 It was very unreal. 643 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,540 Claudia's story seems unreal to me, too. 644 00:47:38,020 --> 00:47:42,920 But the more people I talk to, the more I see that there's a whole class of 645 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,240 disenfranchised people living among us. 646 00:47:45,540 --> 00:47:50,300 I thought it was a mistake. And I provided additional information that 647 00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:52,800 wanted, and there was just rejection after rejection. 648 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,760 It's been a struggle of... 649 00:47:55,980 --> 00:47:57,460 almost 10 years now. 650 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:06,900 There's paths for citizenship through naturalization, through the military, 651 00:48:06,900 --> 00:48:11,400 I don't belong to any other state. So how could I start that process? 652 00:48:11,740 --> 00:48:13,260 So I'm basically stateless. 653 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,580 What does that mean for your life personally? 654 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:21,360 I haven't seen my mother and sister in years. 655 00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:24,580 Last time I saw them, I was still in the military in 2010. 656 00:48:25,340 --> 00:48:26,400 So it's going to be six years now. 657 00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:33,720 If I'm viewed by the country as a citizen, where does that leave me? 658 00:48:35,620 --> 00:48:36,660 It's very scary. 659 00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:47,080 Claudia's story is so strange and so sad. 660 00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:51,140 This is one version of a life without papers. 661 00:48:51,740 --> 00:48:56,360 You may find yourself stranded in your own country with no way to see your 662 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:57,360 family. 663 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:04,340 And Claudia also reminds me that there are so many people we hardly ever think 664 00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:05,340 about. 665 00:49:05,620 --> 00:49:11,140 They may be professionals, or pick our food, or be a U .S. Marine. 666 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:17,780 They may not have papers, but they're here, and they are part of our country 667 00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:18,780 too. 668 00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:31,040 I'm told I will see some fresh approaches in one of the most unlikely 669 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:32,040 the city. 670 00:49:32,340 --> 00:49:36,560 Called Twin Towers by the locals for the two towers reaching up from St. Mary's 671 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,900 Church, the neighborhood was traditionally a tight -knit working 672 00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:40,900 neighborhood. 673 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,400 It's now the epicenter of Dayton's drug epidemic. 674 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:50,360 Here I find two exceptional women working to ensure the community's 675 00:49:51,370 --> 00:49:56,010 As part of her work at the East End Community Center, Emily Sirico takes a 676 00:49:56,010 --> 00:49:59,710 message of hope out into the community, telling anyone who will listen how to 677 00:49:59,710 --> 00:50:00,710 find treatment. 678 00:50:01,430 --> 00:50:04,930 Specifically in East Dayton, we have had a lot of overdoses happen in the last 679 00:50:04,930 --> 00:50:05,788 few months. 680 00:50:05,790 --> 00:50:11,130 And so a team of us have been going out to respond, to try to capitalize on an 681 00:50:11,130 --> 00:50:14,070 opportunity with that individual to get them into treatment. 682 00:50:14,650 --> 00:50:17,890 I'm Emily. I work with East End Community Services. Nice to meet you. 683 00:50:24,270 --> 00:50:28,130 Ellen Mays walks the halls of Ruskin Elementary, where she runs an after 684 00:50:28,130 --> 00:50:30,150 program for Dayton's neediest children. 685 00:50:30,810 --> 00:50:34,810 Her goal is to help a new generation escape the clutches of addiction. 686 00:50:35,310 --> 00:50:40,270 I want to welcome everybody to the third annual Miracle Maker musical. 687 00:50:44,030 --> 00:50:48,330 How long have you guys known each other? 688 00:50:49,310 --> 00:50:50,950 Seventh grade. Seventh grade, yeah. 689 00:50:51,310 --> 00:50:52,310 That's really fantastic. 690 00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:59,190 I've been in this exact area with a dealer, an addict, the police. 691 00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:02,950 How do you guys see this community? 692 00:51:03,330 --> 00:51:07,610 I see a group of people that want to take their community back. 693 00:51:08,090 --> 00:51:13,110 I spoke to Joe Hale, who's a lawyer who's been fighting this crisis for a 694 00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:18,570 time. And when I asked him what he felt like could be done, he said he didn't 695 00:51:18,570 --> 00:51:20,190 feel like there was a solution. What do you think? 696 00:51:20,590 --> 00:51:23,010 There is a solution to it, and the solution is tackling poverty. 697 00:51:23,310 --> 00:51:24,990 Living in poverty is trauma. 698 00:51:25,350 --> 00:51:28,010 It's 100 % trauma, especially with children. 699 00:51:28,430 --> 00:51:31,510 Easton first started and they went around to the community asking, what can 700 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:35,550 do for you? The family said, our children have no dreams. 701 00:51:36,050 --> 00:51:39,790 Give our children some dreams or show them how to actually dream. 702 00:51:40,010 --> 00:51:44,170 The goal is to give them the opportunity to explore their talents, their 703 00:51:44,170 --> 00:51:48,650 passions, what's going to prevent those particular children from ending up in a 704 00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:50,150 cycle of drug abuse. 705 00:51:50,390 --> 00:51:54,210 I think that that in and of itself can just be huge. 706 00:51:54,570 --> 00:51:57,430 We have to take an integrated approach to the problem. 707 00:51:58,100 --> 00:52:01,320 Nonprofits are coming to the table. The city's coming to the table. We have 708 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:06,920 neighbors coming to the table. We have the hospitals, the sheriff's coalition, 709 00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:08,920 all these different groups coming together. 710 00:52:09,380 --> 00:52:10,660 We can tackle this. 711 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,820 Giving up is just not an option whatsoever. 712 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,120 And we owe it to somehow figure out what we can do to make a difference in the 713 00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:18,120 lives of others. 714 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,940 You don't walk away from a situation. 715 00:52:20,380 --> 00:52:22,720 You do the most you can. And you bring... 716 00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:26,520 your whole power pack with you to do that, you know? 717 00:52:26,780 --> 00:52:28,860 Because collectively we can do much more. 718 00:52:29,240 --> 00:52:33,380 It sounds like the gentleman you spoke to is feeling disheartened because he's 719 00:52:33,380 --> 00:52:38,320 lost a battle, a pretty big battle. But we might have fallen once or failed 720 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,360 once, but you get back up and you try again until we find the solution. What's 721 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:43,360 the alternative? 722 00:52:45,460 --> 00:52:50,280 For now, the determination of people like Emily may be the only thing holding 723 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,480 the line against the epidemic. 724 00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:56,660 On a cloudy spring afternoon, many of them gather for the opening of a new 725 00:52:56,660 --> 00:53:01,160 treatment center in the Twin Towers, looking for shared strength and their 726 00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,160 shared purpose. 727 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:03,920 They'll need it. 728 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:07,540 The cost of failure, of doing anything less. 729 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:09,360 is only too clear. 730 00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:11,360 Just 731 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:22,760 like 732 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,580 we ask addicts to do the hard work of recovery, we too must do the hard work 733 00:53:27,580 --> 00:53:28,580 fight this plague. 734 00:53:29,460 --> 00:53:33,240 When I look at what we've accomplished through this sort of collaboration, I 735 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:36,060 really do think everything is going to be okay. 736 00:53:47,710 --> 00:53:51,770 It's been a better part of the year getting to this grand opening. I thank 737 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:56,350 all for being here today, and I hope that this program and our efforts live 738 00:53:56,350 --> 00:53:57,410 to all of our expectations. 739 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:07,520 I gave him four milligrams. 740 00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:11,660 We've had 40 overdoses in the last two weeks right in this community. 741 00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:15,600 We've lost a thousand bodies in the past four years. 742 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,280 And we're still sitting around the table trying to figure out how to solve this 743 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:20,280 problem. 744 00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:25,560 We got to quit kicking the can down the road and blaming the feds and blaming 745 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,560 the state. 746 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,900 This isn't brain surgery. 747 00:54:28,260 --> 00:54:31,680 How much heroin does he use? How long was he in that room? 748 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,600 We are better than this. 749 00:54:47,180 --> 00:54:49,660 I'd like to say help's on the way. Maybe it will be. 750 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:51,080 But don't lose faith. 751 00:54:51,860 --> 00:54:52,860 Stay strong. 752 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:18,000 Time on America Divided. People are getting elected through unconstitutional 753 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,919 voting laws. 754 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,600 Why can we not out the people that are in power? They drew the redistricting 755 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,080 so that Republicans couldn't lose any kind of competitive election. 756 00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,320 Aren't domestic workers protected? 757 00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:32,760 What do you say to a family that says, I can't afford overtime? 758 00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:37,380 It is true that there is a limit to what families can afford and handle on their 759 00:56:37,380 --> 00:56:41,180 own. You're saying if they can't afford me, they're not going to use me. It's 760 00:56:41,180 --> 00:56:42,180 about money. 67418

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