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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,290 --> 00:00:16,010 Previously on America Divided. What makes Pinellas so particularly 2 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:18,990 The lowest achievement elementary school. Pinellas has five. 3 00:00:19,310 --> 00:00:22,470 There's no school you can just go to that's not a D or an F school. 4 00:00:22,830 --> 00:00:26,070 We're talking about schools that are now F and failing schools that were A 5 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:30,550 schools. The vote was that we would go back to neighborhood schools. 6 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:33,750 And now you called it neighborhood schools. Segregated schools. 7 00:00:34,150 --> 00:00:35,150 It's segregated schools. 8 00:00:35,210 --> 00:00:38,590 Part of the deal was we're going to segregate the schools. 9 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,440 but we're going to add resources to supplement that. 10 00:00:42,380 --> 00:00:43,640 We can't get the state audit? 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:45,620 I don't have that information right now. 12 00:00:46,220 --> 00:00:51,940 Did you contact us to... Is there a reason for the hostility? 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,060 What's the problem with that? 14 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:09,030 139, can you put me on a thing? 15 00:01:10,530 --> 00:01:13,810 I just moved to Dayton about eight months ago, so I don't really know too 16 00:01:13,810 --> 00:01:15,030 people. Let's go. 17 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:17,490 No. 18 00:01:19,630 --> 00:01:20,630 Come on. 19 00:01:22,710 --> 00:01:26,170 Do you use here? I used to a long time ago, but I'm quitting. That's why I 20 00:01:26,170 --> 00:01:27,170 here. 21 00:01:28,650 --> 00:01:30,850 How long was he here before he passed out? 22 00:01:31,070 --> 00:01:34,190 Not even like three to five minutes. It's that. 23 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:54,290 You know he was dead, right? And they just brought him back. 24 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:56,208 Hey, Willie. 25 00:01:56,210 --> 00:01:57,490 Yeah. Right here's the spoon. 26 00:01:57,990 --> 00:01:59,450 He's got the spoon in there. 27 00:02:00,870 --> 00:02:03,470 This is not good. You know what can happen right now, right? 28 00:02:03,690 --> 00:02:05,110 I didn't know. I didn't see anything. 29 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:09,139 You trying to get off heroin, right? Yeah, that's why I moved here. 30 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:12,860 If you need some help, I mean, we can get you in the right direction, okay? 31 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,460 Yes, sir. All right. 32 00:02:29,660 --> 00:02:32,480 For a lot of my adult life, I've been an addict. 33 00:02:34,350 --> 00:02:35,770 Alcohol was my drug of choice. 34 00:02:37,670 --> 00:02:39,710 Six years ago, I finally got sober. 35 00:02:40,770 --> 00:02:44,250 However, addiction hasn't released its grip on those dearest to me. 36 00:02:45,250 --> 00:02:49,410 Back home, a cousin's drug addiction has dragged our family into the painful 37 00:02:49,410 --> 00:02:52,410 cycle of abuse, treatment, and relapse. 38 00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:54,690 We are not alone. 39 00:02:55,230 --> 00:02:59,970 Nearly every day, I see our family's pain reflected in stories and headlines. 40 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:09,360 How's he doing? 41 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:13,460 And I have to ask, where did this epidemic come from? 42 00:03:14,340 --> 00:03:17,060 How has it consumed so many lives? 43 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:20,600 And what does the future hold for addicts like my cousin? 44 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,460 I'm Dr. Mike Vickers. I'm a veterinarian in South Texas. 45 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,420 And I'm also chairman of the Texas Border Volunteers. 46 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,740 We have these volunteers that are patriots, and we go out on all these 47 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:50,340 and watch these trails and report that criminal activity to the Border Patrol. 48 00:03:52,620 --> 00:03:57,960 We've been encountering people that are desperate, that are lost, that are sick. 49 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,820 We've found several dead people in here. 50 00:04:01,060 --> 00:04:02,840 One of these we found over there. 51 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,980 Had actually a broken leg. Somebody either beat her up, sexually assaulted 52 00:04:08,020 --> 00:04:11,340 broke her leg and left her there. It probably took her four or five days or a 53 00:04:11,340 --> 00:04:12,340 week to die. 54 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:19,740 We have to classify them all together. They're coming here illegally and we 55 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:20,740 to draw the line. 56 00:04:20,940 --> 00:04:21,940 How we doing? 57 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,240 Thank you. 58 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:28,880 I'm here to stay. 59 00:04:30,180 --> 00:04:31,180 I'm not going anywhere. 60 00:04:33,390 --> 00:04:36,790 I'm going to fight, do everything I can to try to help law enforcement in our 61 00:04:36,790 --> 00:04:37,930 country shut this border down. 62 00:04:40,010 --> 00:04:45,350 There's so much fear and loathing when it comes to undocumented immigrants. 63 00:04:46,370 --> 00:04:51,650 And this campaign season, people from all sides are fired up about the issue. 64 00:04:52,030 --> 00:04:58,930 Of course, there are some bad actors among the indocumentados, 65 00:04:59,010 --> 00:05:01,230 just as there are among every group. 66 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,340 But how can we lump them all together? 67 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,500 The issue of immigration is personal for me. 68 00:05:07,820 --> 00:05:10,800 I'm the child of parents who immigrated from Honduras. 69 00:05:11,260 --> 00:05:16,460 And I'm interested to know more about the 11 million undocumented people in 70 00:05:16,460 --> 00:05:17,460 country. 71 00:05:17,660 --> 00:05:18,660 Who are they? 72 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:20,420 Why have they come? 73 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:23,620 And what is life like for them once they arrive? 74 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:37,400 It's a system that effectively sweeps millions of poor people into second 75 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,480 status. Did we invest in those communities? 76 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,580 No. Instead, we declared war. 77 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:50,320 What we have today is a wealth gap that is huge. 78 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,520 The working class have been hammered. 79 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,340 These are human beings. These are people. 80 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:02,740 What can we do to get that point across? 81 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:14,260 The constant telling us that we're not doing enough is causing us to explode. 82 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,280 It is not, sir, a matter of opinion anymore. 83 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:20,840 It is clearly exposed. 84 00:06:21,780 --> 00:06:28,140 What do we do? They can only win by 85 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:29,360 dividing America. 86 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:34,870 We know that the way things are working aren't working at all. That's right. 87 00:06:36,070 --> 00:06:43,010 If you just keep pushing, if you just keep trying, if you refuse to let 88 00:06:43,010 --> 00:06:49,410 the nightmares have the last say, eventually the dawn will break, the sun 89 00:06:49,410 --> 00:06:52,930 come out, and you will be in a brand new day. 90 00:06:56,790 --> 00:07:00,010 If there's no struggle, There can be no progress. 91 00:07:10,830 --> 00:07:14,430 I came to Pinellas County because of a disturbing trend in the schools here. 92 00:07:15,470 --> 00:07:20,210 But while canvassing the community, civil rights attorney Amir Whitaker has 93 00:07:20,210 --> 00:07:24,130 across something else that he thinks might be connected to the academic 94 00:07:24,130 --> 00:07:25,130 in South St. Pete. 95 00:07:25,910 --> 00:07:31,960 A couple weeks ago, Through our outreach at Canvas, we located two students who 96 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,400 were arrested for having a lunchroom fight for disorderly conduct. 97 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,440 And they went to county jail. 98 00:07:37,700 --> 00:07:39,000 Did they stay in that jail overnight? 99 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:45,380 Oh, yeah. And not only that, but we found out they're using pepper spray on 100 00:07:45,380 --> 00:07:46,380 kids, mace on the kids. 101 00:07:47,220 --> 00:07:48,700 Oh. Yeah. 102 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:55,360 They mace the kids at school? Multiple children is part of this. So we 103 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:56,360 everything in their FOB. 104 00:07:58,590 --> 00:08:02,310 maced in the school and marked with criminal charges that will follow them 105 00:08:02,310 --> 00:08:03,310 the rest of their lives. 106 00:08:04,230 --> 00:08:05,790 For a lunchroom fight. 107 00:08:06,410 --> 00:08:07,710 You had a pickup record? 108 00:08:08,010 --> 00:08:11,650 Okay. Now, I worked as a public high school teacher in Philadelphia. 109 00:08:12,510 --> 00:08:15,150 I know how hard it can be to run a classroom full of teenagers. 110 00:08:15,990 --> 00:08:19,110 But I cannot understand a school treating what sounds like an ordinary 111 00:08:19,110 --> 00:08:21,930 disciplinary issue as a serious crime. 112 00:08:23,750 --> 00:08:26,050 I'm hoping to find some answers in the arrest records. 113 00:08:28,470 --> 00:08:32,450 But the school board failed to include them among the hundreds of pages of 114 00:08:32,450 --> 00:08:33,450 they handed over to Amir. 115 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:41,230 As Amir and I begin to look deeper, it seems like this case might be part of a 116 00:08:41,230 --> 00:08:42,230 pattern. 117 00:08:42,650 --> 00:08:46,110 But what does it have to do with the failure of the schools to educate their 118 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:47,110 black students? 119 00:08:50,210 --> 00:08:53,670 Amir and I set up a meeting at a local church with students and parents. 120 00:08:54,140 --> 00:08:56,100 to talk about school discipline in Pinellas County. 121 00:09:01,500 --> 00:09:05,920 You know, we're here to examine what's happening in Pinellas County, right? 122 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,320 So we want to hear from you all directly and use the platform to hear your 123 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:15,080 voices, your stories, what it's really like being a parent for kids, you know, 124 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:16,380 sending them off to school every day. 125 00:09:16,580 --> 00:09:19,400 I'm from Broward County. I moved here in July. 126 00:09:19,620 --> 00:09:22,580 And Tyler has been suspended here four times. 127 00:09:23,380 --> 00:09:28,180 And school started in August. It is now only, what, April? And then when he's in 128 00:09:28,180 --> 00:09:30,360 school, he spent most of his time in internal suspension. 129 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:33,440 I don't know how many days he's actually been in the classroom. 130 00:09:34,260 --> 00:09:38,120 And the things that they're sending him out of school for are things like just 131 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:44,120 being disruptive, talking, making jokes, and just being extremely playful. 132 00:09:44,540 --> 00:09:46,420 Sounds normal. Right, the normal stuff. 133 00:09:46,860 --> 00:09:48,400 Not okay. 134 00:09:48,740 --> 00:09:51,920 Yeah, it's not okay. So I basically got kicked out. 135 00:10:05,850 --> 00:10:07,070 Tyler isn't alone. 136 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:11,010 Beginning in elementary school, where we hear stories of suspensions and 137 00:10:11,010 --> 00:10:13,130 expulsions for apparently minor offenses. 138 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:17,130 And continuing through high school, where handcuffs, pepper spray, and 139 00:10:17,130 --> 00:10:18,130 seem to be routine. 140 00:10:18,650 --> 00:10:21,050 Black children are being taken out of the classroom. 141 00:10:21,470 --> 00:10:24,410 And they're ending up in the criminal justice system. 142 00:10:24,650 --> 00:10:27,990 I would have never came here if I would have known it was like this. 143 00:10:41,010 --> 00:10:46,470 In communities across the American heartland, prescription pills and heroin 144 00:10:46,470 --> 00:10:47,470 destroying lives. 145 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:54,460 These are places middle -class America has long thought of as havens safe from 146 00:10:54,460 --> 00:10:55,460 the reach of drugs. 147 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:57,680 But now this is no longer true. 148 00:10:58,300 --> 00:10:59,780 White America is dying. 149 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:04,960 Our nation's leaders, long indifferent to the price paid by communities of 150 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,920 during the decades of the drug war, are slowly waking to this crisis. 151 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,160 But as I delve deeper into the reporting, I can see that in some 152 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,680 terrible price has already been paid. 153 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,560 With perhaps more overdose deaths than anywhere else in America, few 154 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:23,900 have suffered like Dayton, Ohio. 155 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:27,000 Dayton is my destination. 156 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:32,880 My ex -wife was an addict. 157 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,080 My stepson died from a heroin overdose. 158 00:11:39,820 --> 00:11:43,120 My nephew died six months ago from a heroin overdose. 159 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,820 My son died 75 days ago from a heroin overdose. 160 00:11:51,540 --> 00:11:58,240 He died the day after Christmas, 161 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:02,120 alone in his house. 162 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:09,720 There's not a day in my life in the past 30 years that addiction hasn't taken 163 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,220 its toll on me in one form or another. 164 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:15,300 Thank you. 165 00:12:22,220 --> 00:12:26,560 There's so much I don't understand about this crisis, but the struggle of 166 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:28,300 families I know too well. 167 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:33,500 In Dayton, Families of Addicts has become a place where those caring for 168 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:34,680 come to care for one another. 169 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:40,220 Herself a former addict, Lori Arion founded the group with the aim of ending 170 00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:42,380 shame and hopelessness felt by so many. 171 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:47,380 There is a lot of work that needs to be done, and it is. 172 00:12:48,060 --> 00:12:52,760 Going to take more than us just talking about it. We need to figure out what to 173 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:53,960 do as a community. 174 00:12:54,540 --> 00:12:56,940 We have people that are seeking recovery. 175 00:12:57,460 --> 00:12:59,900 We have people that are in recovery and families. 176 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,960 And we all come together to help each other. 177 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,160 My cousin, none of us knew anything. 178 00:13:06,380 --> 00:13:10,580 We didn't know the beginnings of, we didn't know the first step. 179 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,520 You become really knowledgeable. 180 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:17,360 Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. And so we all become knowledgeable together. 181 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:22,360 But at the end of the day, the addict needs to want to get better. 182 00:13:23,180 --> 00:13:28,660 Does anybody have any kind of progress that they would like a milestone for 183 00:13:28,660 --> 00:13:29,660 today? 184 00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:31,780 My name is Kevin. I'm an addict. Okay, 185 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,080 so I got 105 days clean today. 186 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:44,360 Through this whole thing, it's been really rough. I put my family through a 187 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,140 and I just wanted to tell my sisters that I love you. 188 00:13:57,260 --> 00:14:00,660 It's clear that Dayton's families are paying a terrible price in the epidemic, 189 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,500 but Lori tells me that Dayton as a whole is in crisis. 190 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,300 The epidemic's death toll in 2016 is headed towards record levels. 191 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,720 Gun violence in Dayton is reaching the kind of levels seen to the north in 192 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Chicago. 193 00:14:18,940 --> 00:14:22,800 I've only been here a day, and I can already feel the city's suffering. 194 00:14:24,780 --> 00:14:28,560 Lori tells me that I can't understand this crisis without visiting the place 195 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:31,080 where so many of Dayton's addicts eventually find themselves. 196 00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:34,240 The Montgomery County Jail. 197 00:14:40,110 --> 00:14:43,850 I'm on a mission to find out about the lives of undocumented immigrants. 198 00:14:45,510 --> 00:14:49,730 And I've come to the Rio Grande Valley in Texas because I've heard that more 199 00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:51,990 migrants come through here than anywhere else. 200 00:14:53,550 --> 00:14:58,410 They're often fleeing violence in their home country and travel hundreds or even 201 00:14:58,410 --> 00:15:03,650 thousands of miles before they get to the Rio Grande River, the last barrier 202 00:15:03,650 --> 00:15:04,650 the United States. 203 00:15:06,860 --> 00:15:10,800 Many are caught by the Border Patrol and thrown into immigration detention. 204 00:15:11,460 --> 00:15:15,700 Private prisons run for profit, like this one in Carnes, Texas. 205 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,580 Mothers and children can be held here for weeks and months before being 206 00:15:21,580 --> 00:15:26,640 released, with orders to appear before a judge and bracelets on their ankles. 207 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:34,100 Some end up in border towns, like McAllen, Texas, and sanctuaries. 208 00:15:34,540 --> 00:15:36,240 like the Sacred Heart Catholic Church. 209 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:50,980 Sister Norma Pimentel runs the sanctuary 210 00:15:50,980 --> 00:15:56,060 and introduces me to a family from Honduras, one of the most dangerous 211 00:15:56,060 --> 00:15:57,060 for women. 212 00:16:02,060 --> 00:16:04,380 Y un riesgo para todos y para mis hijos. 213 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:10,380 Porque si vengo huyendo de mi país, en verdad, me encontré con algo más peor en 214 00:16:10,380 --> 00:16:13,140 México. Caemos en manos de cárteles. 215 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Nos secuestraron y nos tuvieron en una casa. 216 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,940 Secuestrado por dos semanas, por ahí. 217 00:16:20,500 --> 00:16:26,800 Mi familia tuvo que pagar casi 15 mil dólares por ahí. Y ahí seguimos el 218 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,540 Nosotros. ¿Y dónde está tu esposo? 219 00:16:46,420 --> 00:16:51,280 Sister Norma tells me nearly all the families have been through a journey 220 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,800 by kidnapping, extortion, and getting separated from each other, which makes 221 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,800 wonder... 222 00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:20,750 Sí, 223 00:17:21,930 --> 00:17:26,690 el muchacho era el que cuidaba ahí como el jefe. 224 00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:35,590 My husband came and fought with them. 225 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:39,410 So he told us, 24 hours so you can leave, or we'll kill you. 226 00:17:40,030 --> 00:17:42,770 So we left everything abandoned and came. 227 00:17:43,510 --> 00:17:44,510 Like that. 228 00:17:46,910 --> 00:17:48,910 In my country, I don't want to go back. 229 00:17:49,410 --> 00:17:51,550 If they knew how hard it is. 230 00:17:54,250 --> 00:17:55,250 It's horrible. 231 00:17:55,610 --> 00:17:56,610 The girl. 232 00:18:12,250 --> 00:18:15,850 Seeing this family is like looking in a distorting mirror. 233 00:18:17,090 --> 00:18:20,830 This could be me if my parents had never left Honduras. 234 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:30,770 Honduras, Guatemala, Salvador, they now have some of the highest murder rates in 235 00:18:30,770 --> 00:18:31,689 the world. 236 00:18:31,690 --> 00:18:34,450 And nobody is prosecuted for it. 237 00:18:35,210 --> 00:18:39,970 I've come to talk to attorney Jennifer Harbury because she has seen the roots 238 00:18:39,970 --> 00:18:41,330 violence in Central America. 239 00:18:42,710 --> 00:18:45,510 Harbury has always been a lion for human rights. 240 00:18:45,730 --> 00:18:49,330 She spent the 80s and 90s witnessing the dirty war in Guatemala. 241 00:18:51,500 --> 00:18:57,680 a war that killed more than 200 ,000 people. Questions are surfacing about U 242 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,360 support for the Guatemalan military. 243 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:07,080 Now in Texas, she's representing people like that family I met at Sacred Heart, 244 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:10,080 desperate people facing deportation. 245 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:15,960 She sees a connection between her past and present because, she says, the dirty 246 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,840 wars in Central America never really ended. 247 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,620 We're sending people back to highly dangerous situations in Honduras, 248 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:25,699 and Guatemala. 249 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:30,260 These people are in danger of being killed, tortured, or dragged into de 250 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:35,540 slavery by the narcotráfico drug lords in those countries. Yet when they get 251 00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:40,940 here, we choose to pretend that none of those dangers really exist and to throw 252 00:19:40,940 --> 00:19:41,659 them back. 253 00:19:41,660 --> 00:19:44,000 So what about people who say, well, that's not our problem? 254 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,300 Why don't the governments in those countries deal with it? 255 00:19:47,630 --> 00:19:51,990 The United States actually played a key role in backing and arming and funding 256 00:19:51,990 --> 00:19:57,090 military death squads, even though we knew that they were carrying out those 257 00:19:57,090 --> 00:19:58,770 systemic human rights abuses. 258 00:19:59,650 --> 00:20:04,230 That kind of collaboration is allowing these people to continue the incredible 259 00:20:04,230 --> 00:20:09,930 kinds of torture, rape, femicide, brutalization that they did all through 260 00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:15,630 dirty wars. These are human beings coming across, and they are refugees 261 00:20:15,630 --> 00:20:16,830 terrible danger. 262 00:20:25,770 --> 00:20:28,690 When I was a kid, schools rarely employed police officers. 263 00:20:28,990 --> 00:20:33,830 But today, the internet is full of graphic videos of police beating 264 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:58,080 64 % of U .S. high schools now have uniformed police working as school 265 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:59,780 officers or SROs. 266 00:21:00,700 --> 00:21:04,400 But in schools where at least half of the population is non -white or high 267 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,600 poverty, the numbers are much higher. 268 00:21:07,340 --> 00:21:11,640 The Pinellas County School Board runs its own police force, headed by Chief 269 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,640 Stelgis. 270 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:17,000 After trying to arrange an interview for months, I finally get him on the phone 271 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,000 after hours. 272 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:19,360 Hey, Chief Stelgis. 273 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,200 Good evening. This is Jesse Williams calling. 274 00:21:21,630 --> 00:21:23,690 I was really hoping that we could find a time to talk. 275 00:21:24,730 --> 00:21:28,630 Stelgis won't go on record, but he agrees to set up a meeting for me with a 276 00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:33,390 school resource officer who works in Campbell Park, one of the five failing 277 00:21:33,390 --> 00:21:34,390 elementary schools. 278 00:21:44,930 --> 00:21:49,470 The thing about it is, as a school resource officer, you have to have a 279 00:21:49,470 --> 00:21:50,550 desire to work with youth. 280 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:56,560 So on your belt today, you have a gun, you have, what, some kind of mace, same 281 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,020 things you would have on the street. Yes. 282 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,060 We have the same equipment that a regular officer has that's on the 283 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:07,040 I don't use the taser or the spray, not on an elementary kid. 284 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:11,520 How do you determine what warrants handcuffs and arrests? 285 00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:14,140 We're not going to be called unless it's a criminal violation. 286 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,840 If you hear, okay, Johnny was doing this and that, and then you get into it and 287 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,040 say, well, that's not a criminal violation, then... 288 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:25,000 You might say, hey, Johnny, you need to just calm down, need to do what you got 289 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,000 to do and move forward. 290 00:22:26,620 --> 00:22:29,700 Nine times out of ten, it's not a criminal violation. 291 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,740 It's very seldom, very seldom you see a child in elementary school getting a 292 00:22:34,740 --> 00:22:35,740 criminal charge. 293 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,140 Mike Hawkins is one of only two black officers on Chief Stelgis' force, and 294 00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:44,740 hard to see how the discipline policies that he describes could result in 295 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:46,140 hundreds of arrests a year. 296 00:22:46,730 --> 00:22:49,310 I don't want to take up too much more of your time. I just want to ask you just 297 00:22:49,310 --> 00:22:52,690 kind of about these numbers because these are just school arrest numbers. 298 00:22:52,690 --> 00:22:55,090 going to show you. These are just Southern Poverty Law Center numbers. 299 00:22:55,490 --> 00:22:59,130 Pinellas is third in the state in disproportionately arresting black 300 00:22:59,310 --> 00:23:03,170 Three times as many students are arrested for disorderly conduct in 301 00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:04,610 than in Miami. 302 00:23:05,430 --> 00:23:07,590 Miami is three times the amount of students. 303 00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:13,830 That's pretty alarming. Is that fair to say? Does that sound to you like it's 304 00:23:13,830 --> 00:23:15,370 working or like it's not working? 305 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:17,850 That's alarming, listening to the numbers. 306 00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:22,610 Yeah. It's not fair to hold me with a lot of that data. 307 00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:24,750 Well, nobody's holding Officer Hawkins for all that data. 308 00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:28,210 We try to talk to SROs, and they only gave us Officer Hawkins, which I find 309 00:23:28,210 --> 00:23:32,370 curious to begin with. The question should have been to a supervisor who 310 00:23:32,370 --> 00:23:34,950 more about the staff, is it fair to get to me? 311 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:38,130 Supervisors seem to want us to talk to you instead. 312 00:23:38,370 --> 00:23:39,470 I can't answer why. 313 00:23:39,710 --> 00:23:43,430 But each agency has their own supervisor to watch and see what these officers 314 00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:47,220 are doing. And if they're not doing it, That's between them and their agency. 315 00:23:47,460 --> 00:23:52,080 I know what I'm doing. Do you think you're representative of the SRO 316 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,080 in this area? 317 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,620 I feel I'm a representative of myself. 318 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,960 As a part of this neighborhood we're in right here. I grew up in here. I went to 319 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:01,960 Merrill's Elementary. 320 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,060 I'm from this neighborhood. 321 00:24:03,380 --> 00:24:06,500 I'm going to continue to be in this neighborhood, and I'm going to do all I 322 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:07,760 But I'm not going to be a token. 323 00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:10,720 I'm not here speaking as a token. 324 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:12,120 What would that mean? 325 00:24:12,490 --> 00:24:17,310 That means that I was picked because of the color of my skin to speak to y 'all. 326 00:24:27,030 --> 00:24:32,830 At the Montgomery County Jail in downtown Dayton, I meet Sheriff Phil 327 00:24:33,930 --> 00:24:38,490 As the Montgomery County Sheriff, Plummer is responsible for the 25 ,000 328 00:24:38,490 --> 00:24:40,550 who stream through the jail each year. 329 00:24:42,090 --> 00:24:45,310 Plummer tells me that most of the addicts here have seen the inside of his 330 00:24:45,310 --> 00:24:49,930 many times and that they're mostly picked up for theft and prostitution, 331 00:24:49,930 --> 00:24:51,470 committed to support their addictions. 332 00:24:52,550 --> 00:24:59,430 So what percentage of the people that are in here right now have a heroin 333 00:24:59,430 --> 00:25:03,930 problem and that's why they're in there? I'd say 50%. 50 %? Yeah, our female 334 00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:05,370 population is climbing every day. 335 00:25:06,690 --> 00:25:10,270 Plummer tells me that the jail has become the default detox center for 336 00:25:11,530 --> 00:25:15,630 Inmates get no special medical care. They face the pain of withdrawal on 337 00:25:15,630 --> 00:25:16,630 own. 338 00:25:16,790 --> 00:25:19,730 I asked Plumber to introduce me to some of his female inmates. 339 00:25:20,310 --> 00:25:23,010 I want to hear from them how their addictions began. 340 00:25:24,430 --> 00:25:27,490 Maybe in their stories I'll find some of the answers I'm looking for. 341 00:25:28,170 --> 00:25:29,390 Ladies, how's everything going? 342 00:25:30,510 --> 00:25:31,590 Considering. Considering? 343 00:25:31,990 --> 00:25:37,010 Pretty good. As we talk, it becomes clear that for many of these women, a 344 00:25:37,010 --> 00:25:39,110 one helped set them on the path to addiction. 345 00:25:59,250 --> 00:26:01,370 How did your mom get into it? 346 00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:05,890 Mm -hmm. 347 00:26:08,990 --> 00:26:12,250 I don't have my GED. I didn't graduate from high school. 348 00:26:13,270 --> 00:26:16,970 I've lost everything and everybody that I loved. I don't have anything. 349 00:26:17,630 --> 00:26:20,010 I was introduced by my boyfriend. 350 00:26:20,290 --> 00:26:24,530 It started out recreational. Before I knew it, I was a full -blown addict. 351 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:29,950 My husband had lifelong health issues, and then he couldn't get his 352 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:31,590 so he went and got heroin. 353 00:26:33,490 --> 00:26:36,250 I'm probably on the verge of losing two of my children. 354 00:26:37,290 --> 00:26:39,410 And I'm in here and can't do a damn thing about it. 355 00:26:40,690 --> 00:26:41,990 I have four kids. 356 00:26:42,250 --> 00:26:43,710 I haven't seen them in six months. 357 00:26:43,910 --> 00:26:46,450 And their dad finally brought them to see me last week here. 358 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:51,070 And my 10 -year -old daughter looked at me and said, I thought you were dead in 359 00:26:51,070 --> 00:26:52,070 a ditch. 360 00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:54,910 My youngest children just don't understand. 361 00:26:55,750 --> 00:26:57,770 For them, everything is just scary. 362 00:26:59,170 --> 00:27:00,170 So that's rough. 363 00:27:00,290 --> 00:27:03,510 And that's something that not only I have to deal with, but they have to live 364 00:27:03,510 --> 00:27:04,510 with. 365 00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:06,030 I've done that to them. 366 00:27:07,210 --> 00:27:10,950 When I ask Plummer about the connection between pills and heroin mentioned by 367 00:27:10,950 --> 00:27:15,130 some of the women, he arranges for me to talk to another prisoner, Jason Lyle. 368 00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:18,850 So I want heroin right now. Where do I go out there? 369 00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:23,050 Go out here, take a left, and go up the street to the first gas station and 370 00:27:23,050 --> 00:27:23,769 stand there. 371 00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:26,170 And you'll probably get something within five minutes. 372 00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:29,270 How did you wind up doing heroin? 373 00:27:29,670 --> 00:27:30,670 I was 16. 374 00:27:30,850 --> 00:27:32,430 Had an accident, broke my leg. 375 00:27:32,810 --> 00:27:34,770 Started getting prescribed. 376 00:27:36,220 --> 00:27:37,520 Um, painkillers pretty heavily. 377 00:27:37,740 --> 00:27:42,280 And at that moment when you were, when they gave it to you, you really felt 378 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,020 this is something, this is going to be a problem. 379 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,620 Yeah. You didn't call them up and say, I'm not in any pain anymore. I probably 380 00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:48,620 don't need any more. 381 00:27:49,540 --> 00:27:53,980 No, he just kept giving them. I kept taking them. Once he took me off of 382 00:27:53,980 --> 00:27:56,640 began to, um, buy them from the street. 383 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,240 Then I got introduced to someone who had. 384 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,600 stronger pain medicine, which was Oxycontin. 385 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:09,400 So I started doing those, and the guy that I was getting them from, he died, 386 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,640 there was no more of those around, and that's where heroin came into the 387 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,640 picture. 388 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,020 That's when it kind of blew out of control. 389 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:24,620 I mean, it starts with the doctor, and then, you know, it ultimately ends 390 00:28:24,620 --> 00:28:29,480 with you trying to fix your addiction that you've... 391 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,830 Let yourself get, pretty much, you know. 392 00:28:34,930 --> 00:28:39,550 After my visit to the jail, the source of this epidemic is becoming clear. 393 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:45,310 I see that addiction for the women prisoners and Jason Lyle had a common 394 00:28:45,310 --> 00:28:46,310 beginning. 395 00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:57,110 Even if migrants make it into Texas, their ordeal is far from over. 396 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,740 Most want to go north, to big cities like Houston, where work and family may 397 00:29:03,740 --> 00:29:04,740 waiting. 398 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:11,320 But far from the border, as many as 100 miles inside the United States, there 399 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:15,200 are U .S. Border Patrol checkpoints that stop the migrants in their tracks. 400 00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:19,600 Is this the border? 401 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,240 Is this the border with Mexico? 402 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,660 The Immigration Naturalization Act. 403 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:48,060 But non -citizens need to avoid the checkpoint and the certainty of 404 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,280 So they go around it, trying to cross the unforgiving terrain on foot. 405 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,640 This is the guy who has to deal with all those migrants trying to get around the 406 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:04,640 checkpoint. 407 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:10,380 So when you're driving out here, are you constantly looking for people? 408 00:30:10,660 --> 00:30:14,460 You're looking for any element that doesn't appear to be the norm. 409 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:15,720 Okay. 410 00:30:15,940 --> 00:30:17,280 You see this right here? 411 00:30:18,860 --> 00:30:22,300 Yeah. Those were done so they can cross over. 412 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,800 And they can get real bad in a hurry. 413 00:30:27,730 --> 00:30:30,650 This is what they got to put up with, just walking it. 414 00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:33,050 And then you got the terrain. It's thick. 415 00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:34,970 It makes it harsh. 416 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:40,250 And especially if you don't have enough water, a lot of supplies that you need 417 00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:41,430 to keep yourself going. 418 00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:47,190 Because he's law enforcement, Chief Martinez is duty -bound to apprehend the 419 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:48,190 migrants. 420 00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:52,610 But I sense that he's torn about that, since he has a lot of sympathy for them 421 00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:54,650 too. How hot does it get? 422 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,680 In the summer months, we run about 105. 423 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,000 So it varies as to what can happen to them while they're walking. 424 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,020 And the thing is, though, once they get sick, they don't know where they're at. 425 00:31:08,140 --> 00:31:13,120 And they just, it doesn't take us long to find a body here. 426 00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:17,060 And for every one body we found, we're probably missing five. 427 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,380 By Chief Martinez's calculations, thousands of bodies are still out in the 428 00:31:24,380 --> 00:31:28,540 brush. since about 400 have been found just in the past five years. 429 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:35,260 That's in Brooks County, inside the United States, not on the border. 430 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:41,480 And Chief Martinez says that with all those deaths, he and his staff have the 431 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:45,140 gruesome task of making a record of every court. 432 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,940 So these are pictures from the last year? 433 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,100 Yes. From 2015. 434 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,940 It says here that this is a body you found out there. 435 00:32:02,780 --> 00:32:06,300 He was found along the fence line. 436 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,340 And will they try to identify who these people were, or is that impossible? 437 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,120 We've been able to identify some of them, in fact. 438 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,560 Are they all men? 439 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:22,280 No. They're men, they're women, they're young adults, they're youth. 440 00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:25,880 probably as young as 10 at times. 441 00:32:26,860 --> 00:32:30,260 They'll do whatever they can just to go make ends meet. 442 00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:34,580 He died in the ambulance. 443 00:32:36,020 --> 00:32:40,600 Honestly, when I set out to explore the topic of immigration, I didn't bargain 444 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,600 for this. 445 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,520 I didn't expect to encounter this many people dying inside our own country. 446 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,420 This is a death that you don't want. 447 00:32:51,210 --> 00:32:52,330 You know you're dying. 448 00:32:53,290 --> 00:32:54,410 Who's going to hear you? 449 00:32:55,250 --> 00:33:00,290 Out in the middle of nowhere, animals around you waiting for you to expire so 450 00:33:00,290 --> 00:33:01,510 they can go tear you up. 451 00:33:02,830 --> 00:33:04,110 Just, it's senseless. 452 00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:18,770 Every year, hundreds of kids are arrested in 453 00:33:18,770 --> 00:33:19,770 Pinellas County schools. 454 00:33:21,020 --> 00:33:25,400 Children as young as six years old are handcuffed, interrogated by armed 455 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,940 officers without their parents present, loaded into the back of a police cruiser 456 00:33:30,940 --> 00:33:36,680 while the whole school watches, and then taken here, to Pinellas County Jail. 457 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,720 Here, chances are, their case will be taken up by a team of 20 public 458 00:33:43,020 --> 00:33:44,700 led by Bob Dillinger. 459 00:33:46,350 --> 00:33:49,890 I guess we should start with maybe just the broad question, you know, is the 460 00:33:49,890 --> 00:33:52,990 criminal justice system here in Pinellas failing these kids? 461 00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:56,190 Well, when I started out, I was in juvenile. 462 00:33:56,390 --> 00:34:01,610 OK. And it was very frustrating to say this child needs help. 463 00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:07,190 If he doesn't get help, he's going to be in serious trouble down the road. And 464 00:34:07,190 --> 00:34:10,510 then I went up the ladder and became a felony lawyer. And lo and behold. 465 00:34:11,290 --> 00:34:15,469 I've got this kid who's looking at life in prison that I kept saying he needs 466 00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:19,449 help, and he never got it. The system didn't provide it, and now he's doing 467 00:34:19,449 --> 00:34:23,690 in prison when we could have avoided it. When kids come to you, by the time they 468 00:34:23,690 --> 00:34:27,710 get to you, and they've waived their Miranda rights with their children, how 469 00:34:27,710 --> 00:34:28,710 does that work? 470 00:34:28,929 --> 00:34:33,090 We keep fighting that. We keep losing it on the appellate level. 471 00:34:33,310 --> 00:34:37,790 We think the parents should be there before their child makes a decision that 472 00:34:37,790 --> 00:34:40,290 could impact that child for a long time. 473 00:34:40,940 --> 00:34:42,540 they should be able to talk to their parents. 474 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,580 Yeah, we don't allow minors to make a lot of decisions, but we allow them to 475 00:34:45,580 --> 00:34:47,120 waive rights that they can't possibly comprehend. 476 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,980 They can't sign a contract, they couldn't buy a car, but they can waive a 477 00:34:50,980 --> 00:34:54,739 and talk about a crime that could put them in prison for the rest of their 478 00:34:54,940 --> 00:35:00,380 Yeah. I found it pretty alarming that, by and large, white students are not 479 00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:03,760 being arrested at the rates that their black counterparts are for a range of 480 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,340 other charges for disorderly conduct, for example. 481 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,060 Yeah, there's a racial disparity. 482 00:35:08,340 --> 00:35:13,000 You know, we have an overpopulation of minorities in both systems, the juvenile 483 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,160 and the adult systems. 484 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:18,460 We had a child arrested who was six years old for disorderly conduct. 485 00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:23,500 And they put both hands into one handcuff and brought him out to the 486 00:35:23,500 --> 00:35:28,160 center. You don't handcuff a six -year -old. Right, right. And you think about 487 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,620 school, you think that's a track towards employment, right? That's kind of the 488 00:35:32,620 --> 00:35:34,640 selling point. Our schools were the track to prison. 489 00:35:35,210 --> 00:35:36,690 We're ruining these kids' lives. 490 00:35:37,630 --> 00:35:41,590 I have data showing that Pinellas County schools have one of the highest arrest 491 00:35:41,590 --> 00:35:43,370 rates for black students in the state. 492 00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:47,370 I've spoken with the students who told me about their encounters with law 493 00:35:47,370 --> 00:35:51,850 enforcement. But after months of trying, I still haven't been able to get a hold 494 00:35:51,850 --> 00:35:53,130 of the school's arrest records. 495 00:35:54,790 --> 00:35:58,210 The school board told me to talk to the sheriff, but he won't speak with me. 496 00:35:59,310 --> 00:36:02,750 Then, I finally get a call from a contact at his office. 497 00:36:08,170 --> 00:36:09,950 It's worse than I even imagined. 498 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:12,970 Disorderly conduct for knocking over a trash can. 499 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:16,350 Criminal mischief for writing on a bathroom wall. 500 00:36:17,010 --> 00:36:20,950 A felony battery for bumping into an administrator's shoulder. 501 00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:24,270 Dozens of children who'd been pepper sprayed. 502 00:36:25,930 --> 00:36:29,930 A few of the kids are white, but most are black and are identified by the 503 00:36:29,930 --> 00:36:30,930 of their skin. 504 00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:33,850 Seriously. Light, medium, or dark. 505 00:36:38,250 --> 00:36:39,510 I need to talk to someone. 506 00:36:40,090 --> 00:36:44,410 Chief's Delegate still refuses to meet with me, but I managed to track down the 507 00:36:44,410 --> 00:36:46,590 most powerful law enforcement official in the county. 508 00:36:47,650 --> 00:36:51,430 No one is charged with a crime here without the approval of State's Attorney 509 00:36:51,430 --> 00:36:52,650 Bernie McCabe's office. 510 00:36:54,050 --> 00:36:56,050 Mr. McCabe, sir. How are you? 511 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:57,710 Jesse Williams. 512 00:36:58,950 --> 00:37:03,490 Do you think that, in general, the criminal justice system in Pinellas is 513 00:37:03,490 --> 00:37:05,710 failing the kids? 514 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:07,950 Well, you'd have to ask the police, I guess. 515 00:37:08,250 --> 00:37:09,750 You don't have access to the arrest records? 516 00:37:10,050 --> 00:37:14,010 I don't pay attention to... I don't look at the arrest records of those cases 517 00:37:14,010 --> 00:37:15,410 like my juvenile division does. 518 00:37:15,850 --> 00:37:17,410 I have 165 lawyers. 519 00:37:17,610 --> 00:37:22,770 Sure. But your offices have a policy as to how to charge juveniles, right? 520 00:37:22,990 --> 00:37:27,150 We're investigating cases every day, looking at what's appropriate to divert, 521 00:37:27,330 --> 00:37:30,630 what's not appropriate to divert, and making decisions. 522 00:37:31,090 --> 00:37:34,890 So there's diversion, but there's also what charges you want to... 523 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,000 How do you want to consider it? And they come into your office. It's a 524 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,100 disrupting school function. Should we charge them with the felony of 525 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,560 school function or the misdemeanor of disorderly conduct? 526 00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,280 Or do you have to charge them? 527 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:51,720 No, we don't have to charge them. But if there's a case there, would it be 528 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:53,360 responsible to just ignore it? 529 00:37:55,580 --> 00:37:59,060 Would it be responsible to charge every single kid that comes to your office? 530 00:37:59,060 --> 00:38:03,000 Don't charge every single kid. Well, we have stacks and stacks of arrest records 531 00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,400 for children that are getting arrested for things that happen in school that I 532 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,660 remember as being school scuffles or mischief at school, right? And you would 533 00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:12,280 well. Back when I was in school, I had corporal punishment. 534 00:38:13,450 --> 00:38:17,390 I got paddled. Sure, but you didn't get a charge that follows you until you were 535 00:38:17,390 --> 00:38:18,390 35 years old. 536 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:22,470 No. Okay, so if you're obviously aware of the alarming amount of arrests for 537 00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:27,410 kids in the school system, in this particular area, in this particular 538 00:38:27,410 --> 00:38:30,630 that something in the water? What do we attribute that to? I mean, you're saying 539 00:38:30,630 --> 00:38:33,410 that you guys are working so hard to divert. Well, I think there's a cultural 540 00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:35,190 aspect to it that I don't understand. 541 00:38:37,410 --> 00:38:40,830 What's that? There's a cultural aspect to the data around arrests? 542 00:38:41,090 --> 00:38:42,530 No, what's going on in the schools. 543 00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:44,420 That I don't understand. 544 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,780 Whose culture is that? 545 00:38:47,860 --> 00:38:48,860 Societal culture. 546 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,140 Culture in Pinellas County. I don't know. The culture of the people getting 547 00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:56,040 arrested. There's a cultural factor that I don't understand. 548 00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,080 And to that point, we're trying to understand the culture of the prophet, 549 00:39:00,260 --> 00:39:01,620 I'm not a social worker. I'm a prosecutor. 550 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,000 Thank you. Thank you for your time. 551 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,960 What future is school preparing for these kids, really? 552 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,760 Odds are it's not teaching them how to read at grade level. 553 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:26,700 Okay, let's go. 554 00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:29,980 It's not putting them on a path to college or a real job. 555 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,060 It might not even graduate them with a high school diploma. 556 00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:38,900 But it sure can send them to jail for a food fight. 557 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,920 In Pinellas County, Florida, failing schools and high arrest rates. 558 00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:46,420 Go hand in hand. 559 00:39:54,660 --> 00:39:59,020 I asked Sheriff Plummer for an expert on addiction, and he tells me to talk to 560 00:39:59,020 --> 00:40:02,720 Keith Bukasinovich, the director of a new treatment center currently under 561 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,840 construction in one of Dayton's hardest -hit neighborhoods. 562 00:40:05,780 --> 00:40:09,640 So explain that chain of events of how that works, from being prescribed a 563 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,020 medication to ending up, you know, on heroin. 564 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,200 Well, what typically happens is somebody gets prescribed drugs for an injury, 565 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,260 surgery. The problem is that as you take opioids for any amount of time, you 566 00:40:21,260 --> 00:40:22,560 start to build up a tolerance. 567 00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:25,660 See, one Percodan got it for you today. 568 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:27,780 Maybe a week from now it's two. 569 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:33,460 When that becomes insufficient, they start injecting the prescribed drug. 570 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:39,380 When even that becomes insufficient, because prescription drugs cost way more 571 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:40,480 the street than heroin, 572 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,680 they transition at some point to heroin. So heroin was introduced indirectly 573 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,920 from one's use of pain medication. 574 00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:54,040 Because of the fact that most people have a very trusting relationship with 575 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:58,420 their family doctors, if the doctor prescribed it, it must be okay. 576 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:05,320 Where this whole trust -based relationship fell off of the rails was 577 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,540 companies were telling doctors, oh, this is safe, go ahead, you can prescribe 578 00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:09,920 it. No, it's not addictive. 579 00:41:10,940 --> 00:41:12,360 And Doc said, okay. 580 00:41:13,020 --> 00:41:18,560 And it was like open season because suddenly we started giving out pain 581 00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:22,240 And to this day, the United States still consumes 90 % of the hydrocodone 582 00:41:22,240 --> 00:41:25,120 produced in the whole world. We're doing something wrong here. 583 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:31,140 If doctors were prescribing something that they didn't fully understand, it 584 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,680 the question, what do the pharmaceutical companies know? 585 00:41:36,180 --> 00:41:39,220 My research points me to a courthouse in Scioto County. 586 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:40,960 two hours south of Dayton. 587 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,100 Prosecutor Joe Hale was the first to bring a lawsuit against Purdue Pharma, 588 00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:51,300 maker of OxyContin, the prescription opiate which has created more addicts 589 00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:53,360 claimed more lives than any other. 590 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,780 At what point did you start to get involved to try to do something about 591 00:41:58,780 --> 00:42:04,200 this? I first got involved as a result of the daughter of a client of mine 592 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,080 overdosing on OxyContin. 593 00:42:07,450 --> 00:42:12,730 Two years later, I filed the first lawsuit against Purdue Pharma, first 594 00:42:12,730 --> 00:42:13,569 in the country. 595 00:42:13,570 --> 00:42:17,790 Well, of course, they filed an answer denying negligence, denying liability. 596 00:42:18,330 --> 00:42:24,810 All of a sudden, the U .S. Attorney's Office announces that three of the 597 00:42:24,810 --> 00:42:31,190 Pharma executives pled guilty to misdemeanor charges, what were referred 598 00:42:31,190 --> 00:42:34,970 misbranding narcotics, not disclosing the addiction potential. 599 00:42:35,450 --> 00:42:41,040 Purdue Pharma was... fined $635 million, something like that. 600 00:42:41,380 --> 00:42:44,820 Everybody from the U .S. attorney involved, all these federal government 601 00:42:44,820 --> 00:42:50,600 agencies, gave these great speeches. The end of the OxyContin epidemic. 602 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,340 Baloney. It grew after that. 603 00:42:54,640 --> 00:43:01,320 They made up enough money in the next four or five years to make that $600 604 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,340 million look like a drop in the bucket. 605 00:43:03,660 --> 00:43:06,260 What do you feel like the consequences should have been? 606 00:43:07,170 --> 00:43:08,670 People should have gone to jail. 607 00:43:09,610 --> 00:43:14,330 Even a fool could figure out if you put 40 milligrams or 80 milligrams of pure 608 00:43:14,330 --> 00:43:20,630 oxycodone into a pill, the drug abusing population will eventually figure out 609 00:43:20,630 --> 00:43:21,690 you can shoot it up. 610 00:43:21,910 --> 00:43:25,450 So Purdue Pharma committed a gross act of negligence. 611 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,360 As it started to seem like there was a problem, did they have any reaction? 612 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:34,080 there warnings sent to doctors? Did doctors start to go, okay, this is an 613 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:39,680 No, in fact, I believe that Purdue Pharma actively tried to suppress that 614 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:46,320 information. What do you think Purdue Pharma's motivations were and are 615 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,380 for making this drug, ultimately? 616 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:53,660 The first year that Purdue Pharma began marketing OxyContin, 617 00:43:55,310 --> 00:43:58,190 I believe that their gross sales in OxyContin was $43 million. 618 00:43:58,990 --> 00:44:04,090 By 2010, they would surpass $3 billion. 619 00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:11,410 Do you feel like Purdue is in some way not just responsible for the OxyContin 620 00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:15,630 epidemic, but responsible ultimately for the heroin epidemic that's going on? 621 00:44:16,030 --> 00:44:21,510 Absolutely. There's no doubt in my mind, and the evidence is there. 622 00:44:21,790 --> 00:44:23,230 So what is the solution? 623 00:44:26,730 --> 00:44:27,750 I don't know if there is one. 624 00:44:28,990 --> 00:44:34,030 Purdue has generated sales of more than $35 billion since it released its 625 00:44:34,030 --> 00:44:35,810 supposedly addiction -proof painkiller. 626 00:44:36,330 --> 00:44:39,790 All the while, year after year, the deaths keep mounting. 627 00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:51,970 Migrants with no papers who are trapped in the Rio Grande Valley have a few 628 00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:52,970 stark options. 629 00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:55,090 Leave the country. 630 00:44:55,980 --> 00:45:00,500 risk death by trying to go around the Border Patrol, or stay put. 631 00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:05,220 Today, I'm meeting someone who's chosen to stay. 632 00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:10,040 But from what I hear, this choice may end up being just as deadly. 633 00:45:44,580 --> 00:45:49,420 Jackie what was that like when you found out from your mom? I was in shock 634 00:45:54,339 --> 00:46:00,460 When she told me that, I thought, what was I going to do if the next thing I 635 00:46:00,460 --> 00:46:02,440 found out my mom wasn't going to be by my side? 636 00:46:04,660 --> 00:46:05,660 And I was scared. 637 00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,340 to do activities, bingos, raffles, everything to raise money. 638 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,540 And you didn't come back to clean houses? 639 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,760 No, I couldn't come back to work. 640 00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:43,700 The doctor was taking care of me with the county insurance. 641 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,900 But on December 26, he wasn't going to work here at the cancer center. 642 00:46:53,730 --> 00:46:55,130 Wow. 643 00:47:23,790 --> 00:47:29,350 Because she's undocumented, Alondra isn't eligible for Medicaid, even though 644 00:47:29,350 --> 00:47:31,330 she's poor and very ill. 645 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,880 Pues es que tengo muchas ganas de vivir, que pasen los años, de volver a 646 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,860 trabajar y verlos crecer. 647 00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:02,580 Ella me dice que quiere ser abogada y le digo que quiero ver mi abogada en la 648 00:48:02,580 --> 00:48:09,320 familia. Y sí, o sea, ver sus hijos, verlos casarse todos, todo 649 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,420 eso me inspira a que yo quiero vivir, quiero seguir adelante, no quiero quedar 650 00:48:13,420 --> 00:48:14,420 en esto. 651 00:48:33,970 --> 00:48:38,670 The state's attorney told me that the culture in Pinellas County is what gets 652 00:48:38,670 --> 00:48:40,210 students arrested in the first place. 653 00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:45,410 And he doesn't seem interested in the toll that arrests overcharging, and jail 654 00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:47,030 time are taking on students. 655 00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:52,090 The school board is still in denial about its failing segregated schools. 656 00:48:54,030 --> 00:48:56,710 But it feels like things are finally changing here. 657 00:48:57,030 --> 00:49:00,870 In the last few weeks alone, the school board has announced a slate of reforms. 658 00:49:01,830 --> 00:49:05,590 A federal civil rights investigation has been launched into whether the school 659 00:49:05,590 --> 00:49:08,310 district systematically discriminates against black children. 660 00:49:09,390 --> 00:49:13,550 And the Tampa Bay Times has won a Pulitzer Prize for their groundbreaking 661 00:49:13,550 --> 00:49:16,390 which first revealed the crisis within Pinellas County schools. 662 00:49:18,310 --> 00:49:22,550 Community pressure, which had been building slowly for years, is starting 663 00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:23,550 break through. 664 00:49:24,910 --> 00:49:29,370 I'm going to a massive rally organized by local churches here called Faith and 665 00:49:29,370 --> 00:49:31,030 Action for Strength Together. 666 00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:32,690 Fast. 667 00:49:38,350 --> 00:49:42,850 Lisa and Tyler are here as well, along with 3 ,000 of their classmates and 668 00:49:42,850 --> 00:49:43,850 fellow parents. 669 00:49:51,310 --> 00:49:55,710 For the first time ever, the entire school board has agreed to meet with 670 00:49:55,710 --> 00:49:57,750 3000 members and listen to their demands. 671 00:49:59,190 --> 00:50:02,390 For a school board that I'm more used to seeing perched behind their high 672 00:50:02,390 --> 00:50:04,050 podium, denouncing their critics, 673 00:50:04,810 --> 00:50:06,870 This is a stunning power reversal. 674 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:12,390 Will you replace all other school suspension with a supervised program 675 00:50:12,390 --> 00:50:13,390 trained staff? 676 00:50:13,750 --> 00:50:15,050 Yes. Yes. 677 00:50:15,390 --> 00:50:17,090 Yes. That's a yes. 678 00:50:18,510 --> 00:50:24,970 Will you support a policy change to stop arresting children for disorderly 679 00:50:24,970 --> 00:50:30,590 conduct in school? I will ask our school campus chief of police to eliminate 680 00:50:30,590 --> 00:50:34,290 arrests for nonviolent disorderly conduct. 681 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,180 I'm sorry, at this time I guess I'm going to have to say no. 682 00:50:37,900 --> 00:50:41,500 No. Why are you saying that? It's really a matter of terminology. 683 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,580 It is my opinion that when you use the terminology... Excuse me. 684 00:50:47,780 --> 00:50:51,600 We are talking about nonviolent offenses. 685 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,460 So will you support a policy change to stop arresting students? 686 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,220 If you're going to put it like that, yes. 687 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:01,760 That's a yes. 688 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,420 Just weeks after the FAST protest, the Pinellas School Board announced another 689 00:51:14,420 --> 00:51:15,540 slate of reforms. 690 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,380 And they replaced every one of the principals from the five failing 691 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:23,360 Are these victories? 692 00:51:24,020 --> 00:51:25,020 Maybe. 693 00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:29,020 But an entire decade of damage has already been done here. 694 00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:33,560 And it really shouldn't take years of struggle to finally get a school board 695 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:34,560 just to listen. 696 00:51:35,020 --> 00:51:36,480 Or to finally get a nation. 697 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:42,420 to make good on its promise of equal access to a quality education for all of 698 00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:43,420 its children. 699 00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:58,040 When I hear stories like Alondra Garcia's, I 700 00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:59,040 get sad. 701 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:00,660 And then I get angry. 702 00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:04,480 Do the undocumented have any human rights? 703 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,020 If so, who's fighting for them? 704 00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:10,720 You've got to get out there with a picket sign and get some action going. 705 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,340 And when you put all of those things together, then nonviolence works. 706 00:52:16,180 --> 00:52:21,660 America's most famous farmworker leader, Peter Chavez, founded La Unión del 707 00:52:21,660 --> 00:52:28,160 Pueblo Entero, or LUPE, an activist group dedicated to the idea that low 708 00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,660 immigrants should band together to help themselves. 709 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:39,640 In spring 2016, their cause was DAPA, a federal program to allow undocumented 710 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:41,840 parents to stay in the U .S. 711 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,300 The Supreme Court was about to rule. 712 00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:53,120 If we get a decision from the Supreme Court that is not beneficial to our 713 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,180 community, we're not going to stop. 714 00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:01,060 And in June, the ruling meant the parents could be deported. 715 00:53:01,790 --> 00:53:06,730 For Tanya Chavez, it was a blow and a reason to keep fighting. 716 00:53:08,550 --> 00:53:11,650 Chavez works for Lupe and is a community leader. 717 00:53:12,010 --> 00:53:16,710 She has two master's degrees in business administration and communications. 718 00:53:17,610 --> 00:53:23,230 But despite her credentials, she's also trapped in the valley, for she too is 719 00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:24,230 undocumented. 720 00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:31,610 I actually didn't really know that there was an actual wall. 721 00:53:31,890 --> 00:53:34,430 All the way, the whole border. 722 00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:38,430 The whole border? The whole border, from Bronzeville all the way to California. 723 00:53:38,430 --> 00:53:39,430 Oh, to California? 724 00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:42,850 I mean, it cuts through different parts, but yeah, it goes all the way. 725 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:47,650 Where were you born and raised, and where do you come from? 726 00:53:47,870 --> 00:53:50,090 I was born and raised in Veracruz, Mexico. 727 00:53:50,730 --> 00:53:55,330 And then my parents decided to send me and my brother over to the United States 728 00:53:55,330 --> 00:53:57,910 to a better place for our education. 729 00:53:58,170 --> 00:54:04,350 But when we came in to the United States, we asked for a student visa, and 730 00:54:04,350 --> 00:54:05,350 student visa was denied. 731 00:54:05,890 --> 00:54:10,330 Why? Because my parents didn't have enough money in the bank. And so for you 732 00:54:10,330 --> 00:54:14,050 be able to acquire a student visa, you need to have thousands of dollars in the 733 00:54:14,050 --> 00:54:15,029 bank. 734 00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:19,770 So instead of student visas, Tanya says the kids came on tourist visas. 735 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,880 But while she was in college in Texas, Tanya wasn't aware of the difference. 736 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,260 All along, I thought I was documented. 737 00:54:28,740 --> 00:54:33,340 When did you fully understand what it meant to be undocumented? 738 00:54:34,340 --> 00:54:39,880 I found myself caged in the valley. I couldn't go beyond the checkpoint, and I 739 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,020 couldn't go back to Mexico. 740 00:54:41,380 --> 00:54:47,200 So people say that if you legalize immigrants who came to this country 741 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,540 illegally, then you are rewarding. 742 00:54:50,410 --> 00:54:51,410 illegal behavior. 743 00:54:51,590 --> 00:54:52,790 What is your response to that? 744 00:54:53,110 --> 00:54:55,810 I think it's about rewarding individuals. 745 00:54:56,110 --> 00:55:01,210 I think it's about allowing them to contribute to the society that they have 746 00:55:01,210 --> 00:55:02,210 made their home. 747 00:55:02,250 --> 00:55:08,390 It's about allowing them to pay taxes back. It's allowing them to contribute 748 00:55:08,390 --> 00:55:09,390 this economy. 749 00:55:10,510 --> 00:55:14,950 Some people claim the border is wide open, but as I've just become aware, 750 00:55:15,190 --> 00:55:17,690 there's already a wall along much of it. 751 00:55:18,990 --> 00:55:23,210 I've also learned that the federal government spends more to secure the 752 00:55:23,210 --> 00:55:25,810 than on any other element of law enforcement. 753 00:55:26,330 --> 00:55:27,710 Border patrol is coming. 754 00:55:28,650 --> 00:55:31,810 Today, we see the border patrol everywhere. 755 00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:37,450 Oh, no. 756 00:55:39,090 --> 00:55:41,590 Were they trying to cross? 757 00:55:41,850 --> 00:55:42,850 Yes. 758 00:55:51,660 --> 00:55:54,000 This is when I realized how privileged I am. 759 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,760 My heart's beating so hard. 760 00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:20,300 I think for me, every time I read an article or watch a news report or meet a 761 00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:23,300 dreamer or see a farm worker. 762 00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:29,860 You know, I see myself. I see my family. And I just think it only would take 763 00:56:29,860 --> 00:56:36,580 a small amount of imagination for any of us to put ourselves 764 00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:43,460 in these people's shoes and try and understand that they're people and 765 00:56:43,460 --> 00:56:48,900 that they're humans just like us and that it could very well be us and that 766 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:49,900 won the lottery. 767 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,540 By being born in this country. 768 00:56:56,780 --> 00:57:01,960 On the next America Divided. And how do you see this issue of anchor babies? 769 00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:08,720 Anyone who's born in the United States is a citizen. They can go right there. 770 00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:11,240 Give me an idea of the scale of this problem. 771 00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:15,500 Suicide and drug overdoses are going up in tandem. 772 00:57:15,860 --> 00:57:18,420 We have a government operating in bold. 773 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,980 Contrast and opposition to the fundamental values of North Carolina. 774 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,480 How do these people get in power? Money and politics. 67160

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