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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,359 --> 00:00:15,300 Previously on America Divided. They're buying a $90 million apartment. 2 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,800 They're looking at it as a safety deposit box. 3 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,180 900 to 2100 in one lead. He's at Palm Heights in New Manhattan. 4 00:00:23,780 --> 00:00:25,400 There's dust, there's debris. 5 00:00:25,780 --> 00:00:30,180 Those are the tactics they use to displace you. He is displacing those 6 00:00:30,180 --> 00:00:31,360 who happen to be black. 7 00:00:31,580 --> 00:00:34,480 And breaking the law so thoroughly. 8 00:00:35,140 --> 00:00:37,600 Residents started congregating in your house. 9 00:00:37,950 --> 00:00:41,450 Rashes, hair falling out. We have completely different kids. 10 00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:45,130 They went from straight -A students to failing. 11 00:00:45,550 --> 00:00:47,250 Rusted, corroded pipes. 12 00:00:47,690 --> 00:00:49,430 Basically, this is crime scene evidence. 13 00:00:49,830 --> 00:00:52,650 Crime one, destruction of our infrastructure. 14 00:00:53,010 --> 00:00:54,610 Crime two, poisoning people. 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:11,480 What's that vocabulary word? 16 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,300 Persistent. Let's clap it out. Ready? 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Persistent. 18 00:01:16,180 --> 00:01:19,500 Persistent. I still remember my own second grade classroom. 19 00:01:20,180 --> 00:01:21,980 It's amazing how many of us do. 20 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,640 School is where we learn how to read, how to think, and how to argue. 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:28,920 What do we need to know? 22 00:01:29,300 --> 00:01:33,840 It's the stage where the small dramas in life come to define our lives. 23 00:01:34,300 --> 00:01:37,160 Our first friendships, first fights, first crushes. 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,240 It's where we learn how to learn. 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,460 What is the purpose of underlining and jotting notes? 26 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,160 Why do we do those things? 27 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:50,680 I shared my own second grade classroom and my teacher with the third grade. 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:55,340 Sixty students in total and two lesson plans crammed into one tiny space. 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:00,900 It wasn't until we moved that I realized that this wasn't how it was supposed to 30 00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:05,980 be and that being born into the wrong school district can change your life 31 00:02:05,980 --> 00:02:06,980 forever. 32 00:02:08,810 --> 00:02:13,550 And that's why I've come here, to St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, Florida, 33 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:17,510 where something has gone terribly wrong with the education system. 34 00:02:26,430 --> 00:02:32,130 It's a system that effectively sweeps millions of poor people into second 35 00:02:32,130 --> 00:02:34,250 status. Did we invest in those communities? 36 00:02:34,530 --> 00:02:36,330 No, instead we declared war. 37 00:02:42,380 --> 00:02:45,100 What we have today is a wealth gap that is huge. 38 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:51,460 We are dying with money. We are dying with money. The working class have been 39 00:02:51,460 --> 00:02:55,100 hammered. These are human beings. These are people. 40 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:57,440 What can we do to get that point across? 41 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:08,960 The continent telling us that we're not doing enough is causing us to lose. 42 00:03:11,850 --> 00:03:13,990 It is not a matter of opinion anymore. 43 00:03:14,250 --> 00:03:15,610 It is clearly exposed. 44 00:03:16,450 --> 00:03:22,870 What do we do? They can only win by 45 00:03:22,870 --> 00:03:24,070 dividing America. 46 00:03:25,210 --> 00:03:29,670 We know that the way things are working are working at all. That's right. 47 00:03:30,850 --> 00:03:35,770 If you just keep pushing, if you just keep trying. 48 00:03:36,330 --> 00:03:42,670 If you refuse to let the nightmares have the last say, eventually the dawn will 49 00:03:42,670 --> 00:03:47,670 break, the sun will come out, and you will be in a brand new day. 50 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:54,690 If there's no struggle, there can be no progress. 51 00:04:00,770 --> 00:04:03,610 So we just got another delivery today. 52 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:06,860 Everybody's trying to come together. 53 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:17,880 Millionaire Monopoly is devastating what they're doing to our community because 54 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,839 we all deserve to have access to safe water. 55 00:04:22,060 --> 00:04:23,060 Period. 56 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,760 As I dig back into the history of Flint, I learn things that today are hard to 57 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,580 believe. In the city of Flint, Michigan, all is excitement. 58 00:04:53,900 --> 00:05:00,340 All this is a day. Back in the 1970s, Flint had the highest per capita income 59 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:02,160 in the United States. 60 00:05:02,660 --> 00:05:08,280 It was a General Motors company town back when what was good for GM was good 61 00:05:08,280 --> 00:05:09,280 America. 62 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:13,950 But GM apparently only cared about saving money. They moved the jobs to 63 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:18,030 countries where they could pay lower wages and shut down their big factories. 64 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:23,050 Flint collapsed. 65 00:05:27,690 --> 00:05:34,390 This place used to be Buick City, a factory that employed 27 ,000 66 00:05:34,390 --> 00:05:35,390 people. 67 00:05:36,490 --> 00:05:37,810 Now there's nothing left. 68 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:44,040 I find it almost incomprehensible that the water crisis would be visited on a 69 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,120 place that was already so devastated. 70 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:53,200 I need someone who's not a Flint resident, someone with some distance, to 71 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,620 explain how this could happen. 72 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:04,340 People are recommending I track down a Michigan State professor named Josh 73 00:06:04,340 --> 00:06:05,340 Sapochny. 74 00:06:06,330 --> 00:06:10,970 His area of research is how states treat cities like Flint when they run out of 75 00:06:10,970 --> 00:06:11,969 money. 76 00:06:11,970 --> 00:06:15,390 In Michigan, the state assigns emergency managers. 77 00:06:16,890 --> 00:06:18,590 Hi. I'm Josh. 78 00:06:18,850 --> 00:06:20,430 Sorry. Nice to meet you. 79 00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:23,670 I have a lot of questions for you. 80 00:06:23,890 --> 00:06:24,829 Sounds good. 81 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:25,830 I'm ready. 82 00:06:26,030 --> 00:06:28,630 So I've heard that the Flint water crisis was made worse. 83 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,540 by the fact that the city was governed by emergency managers. Can you explain, 84 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:37,660 does Flint have a water crisis because of emergency managers? 85 00:06:38,060 --> 00:06:43,100 The failure of the state in the Flint water crisis was that it designed an 86 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:50,040 approach that empowers one individual who effectively displaces the local 87 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,700 elected officials, right? So in 30 days following the switch, there were people 88 00:06:53,700 --> 00:06:56,400 in the streets with bottles of water showing... 89 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,200 The discoloration. The people in the city of Flint are raising this issue. 90 00:07:00,540 --> 00:07:04,540 To their elected officials who don't have power to do really anything about 91 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:05,619 That's right. 92 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:11,480 I'm just in shock at how democracy was just completely thrown out the window. 93 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:16,360 seems like the whole point of emergency managers is to not just override elected 94 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 officials, but basically that means to override democracy. 95 00:07:19,580 --> 00:07:23,380 It's an accounting solution, right? It's an accounting policy. 96 00:07:24,030 --> 00:07:27,690 When it was clear that there was a problem with the drinking water in the 97 00:07:27,690 --> 00:07:34,410 of Flint, the emergency manager's job at that moment was to turn a blind eye. 98 00:07:34,690 --> 00:07:40,550 The job of Flint's four successive emergency managers, Dr. Sopoczny says, 99 00:07:40,550 --> 00:07:42,410 cut costs at all costs. 100 00:07:42,990 --> 00:07:47,870 They slashed funding to senior centers, gutted the police and fire departments, 101 00:07:48,010 --> 00:07:50,290 and even auctioned off Santa. 102 00:07:52,650 --> 00:07:55,270 The starting bid was $5. 103 00:07:58,410 --> 00:08:01,610 That's, you know, this is sort of the powers of the emergency manager. They're 104 00:08:01,610 --> 00:08:06,210 coming in and say, these things have to be cut and go because my job is to 105 00:08:06,210 --> 00:08:08,350 reduce the deficit. Reduce the deficit, yeah. 106 00:08:08,590 --> 00:08:12,370 Was the city being mismanaged? Was it necessary to bring an emergency manager? 107 00:08:12,750 --> 00:08:17,650 I think it was necessary for the state to get involved in some way. 108 00:08:17,870 --> 00:08:21,810 It was a one -industry town, effectively, and that industry left. 109 00:08:22,140 --> 00:08:28,240 But Michigan's policy essentially assumes that the revenue structure in 110 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,059 is fine. 111 00:08:29,060 --> 00:08:32,679 We're going to come in and we're going to make a bunch of major cuts. But 112 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,919 there's no additional help on the revenue side. 113 00:08:35,140 --> 00:08:39,760 They're strapped as it is. They're having issues around revenue and needing 114 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,760 money to do things. 115 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:44,480 And then the answer is to cut even more of their programs and give them even 116 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,840 less money to work with. So there's a death spiral. 117 00:08:48,010 --> 00:08:52,770 Dr. Sipoczny says that the debt spiral is the product of the austerity programs 118 00:08:52,770 --> 00:08:57,410 of several Michigan governors, the most drastic being that of the current 119 00:08:57,410 --> 00:08:58,750 governor, Rick Snyder. 120 00:08:59,050 --> 00:09:03,590 The relationship between the state government in Michigan and its city 121 00:09:03,590 --> 00:09:07,630 government is not a very good relationship. In fact, in certain issue 122 00:09:07,750 --> 00:09:08,750 it's a toxic relationship. 123 00:09:14,110 --> 00:09:16,790 I'm an accountant and your governor. 124 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:21,650 I've found I can help more people when the numbers add up. We didn't change 125 00:09:21,650 --> 00:09:24,350 the times, and we let politics get in the way. 126 00:09:25,510 --> 00:09:26,510 Not anymore. 127 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:29,630 We're on the road to recovery for every Michigan. 128 00:09:30,070 --> 00:09:33,450 The credit never goes to the person who built a strong foundation. 129 00:09:34,190 --> 00:09:36,010 But that's what you have to do first. 130 00:09:36,870 --> 00:09:38,670 And that's why we have accounts. 131 00:09:48,010 --> 00:09:51,310 So is Governor Rick Snyder ultimately responsible for what happened? 132 00:09:52,970 --> 00:09:56,930 So, Mr. Jefferson, if you want the loan, you'll just have to locate your store 133 00:09:56,930 --> 00:09:58,630 in a more respectable neighborhood. 134 00:09:59,270 --> 00:10:01,030 Oh, you mean like a white neighborhood? 135 00:10:01,510 --> 00:10:02,510 That's a thought. 136 00:10:04,510 --> 00:10:09,890 Back in the 70s, our shows reflected what I felt was a national consensus 137 00:10:09,890 --> 00:10:11,970 race relations needed to be discussed. 138 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:14,590 Boy is a white racist word. 139 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,080 And solved. 140 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,460 Whereas we got our fair share of colors in this street. 141 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,120 What? That's a petition. 142 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,720 It ain't a petition. 143 00:10:24,940 --> 00:10:26,720 It's a letter for the people who live in this street. 144 00:10:26,940 --> 00:10:27,819 To who? 145 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:31,880 To some people that we don't want living in this street. What do you want to 146 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:33,200 start this thing up for again? 147 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,020 Oh, Daddy, isn't it a little late? The Jeffersons have been living here for 148 00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:40,440 two years. This letter ain't got nothing to do with the Jeffersons. The 149 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,380 Jeffersons are different. Why are the Jeffersons different? 150 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:46,240 Because one college family is a novelty and two is a ghetto. 151 00:10:49,980 --> 00:10:56,940 These days, as I meet people living on the edge, I can't help but notice 152 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:59,960 that just about all of them are people of color. 153 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:03,580 Why is so little changed in America? 154 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,460 Is skin color still destiny? 155 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,920 I've come to see someone who spent years studying this question. 156 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:18,120 I really first got interested in segregation as a young child when I 157 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,180 getting bused from a black neighborhood in Waterloo, Iowa, to go to white 158 00:11:22,180 --> 00:11:23,840 schools across the other side of town. 159 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:27,660 It became very clear to me that people were living in very different types of 160 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:29,980 neighborhoods, and often that corresponded with their race. 161 00:11:30,490 --> 00:11:33,930 But when people have the chance to live in integrated neighborhoods, people do 162 00:11:33,930 --> 00:11:37,790 see that we're all pretty much the same and we all pretty much want the same 163 00:11:37,790 --> 00:11:42,210 things. The problem is, in this country, it's so rare that we get that 164 00:11:42,210 --> 00:11:45,050 opportunity, and especially in cities like New York. 165 00:11:45,490 --> 00:11:50,230 When I think about segregation, it's in the South. 166 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:55,070 Believe it or not, when it comes to housing segregation, the North is worse 167 00:11:55,070 --> 00:11:55,959 the South. 168 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,360 New York City is actually the third most segregated city in the country. 169 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:03,220 All of the most segregated cities in the country are in the north. New York City 170 00:12:03,220 --> 00:12:06,820 is the third most segregated city in the country. 171 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,360 In the 1930s, we had the Great Depression, and the federal government 172 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:16,860 that it's going to build the middle class by insuring federal loans for 173 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:21,060 It took a map of a city, and the government decided that neighborhoods 174 00:12:21,060 --> 00:12:25,630 white... got the best ratings. And neighborhoods that were integrated or 175 00:12:25,630 --> 00:12:26,870 got a lesser rating. 176 00:12:27,070 --> 00:12:28,890 Neighborhoods that were black got the worst rating. 177 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:34,050 And those neighborhoods were literally outlined in red marker, redlining. 178 00:12:35,330 --> 00:12:39,290 For the first 30 years, black Americans were almost entirely excluded. 179 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:42,050 98 % of those loans went to white Americans. 180 00:12:42,350 --> 00:12:44,930 But we saw the largest expansion of... 181 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,600 the white middle class in the history of our country. And all of that wealth 182 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,160 mostly was coming from housing. 183 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,800 And so what we have today is a wealth gap that is huge. 184 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,320 The average or median wealth of a white family is $140 ,000, and the median 185 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,320 wealth of a black family is $7 ,000. 186 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:02,780 $140 ,000. To $7 ,000. 187 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,810 If I'm a young white kid and I'm going to college, I don't have to take out a 188 00:13:07,810 --> 00:13:10,730 student loan because my parents have wealth in their house that they can take 189 00:13:10,730 --> 00:13:12,030 out to help me get through college. 190 00:13:12,230 --> 00:13:16,990 If I'm a young black kid, more likely I'm going to have to take out a loan to 191 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:20,550 to college. And in fact, we know black Americans are the most likely to take 192 00:13:20,550 --> 00:13:23,550 loans and also take out the largest loan amount, even though they have the least 193 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:24,550 wealth to pay it back. 194 00:13:24,710 --> 00:13:28,590 Then I'm the white kid and I graduate and I go into teaching and maybe I'm 195 00:13:28,590 --> 00:13:33,610 making $35 ,000 a year, but my parents can give me a down payment to buy into a 196 00:13:33,610 --> 00:13:34,610 good neighborhood. 197 00:13:34,940 --> 00:13:38,500 The black kid's going to have to make it on his own. Same income, but isn't 198 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:40,540 going to be able to buy into that good neighborhood. 199 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,780 You just either pass on your privilege or your disadvantage to the next 200 00:13:44,780 --> 00:13:45,780 generation. 201 00:13:45,940 --> 00:13:49,400 It must be so hard for Americans listening to this to believe their 202 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,120 could behave that way. 203 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,120 I'd say it's hard for white Americans. I think for black Americans, it's very 204 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,000 easy to believe that our government behaves this way. 205 00:13:58,250 --> 00:14:01,410 And then you have this myth that if a lot of black people move into a 206 00:14:01,410 --> 00:14:03,270 neighborhood, the property values go down. 207 00:14:03,490 --> 00:14:04,570 That's actually true. 208 00:14:04,870 --> 00:14:08,070 It's true, though, because of the way the federal government rated integrated 209 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:11,450 neighborhoods. But we've come to believe it's true because black people just 210 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:16,290 don't keep up their properties. So you see the way that a reality can be fueled 211 00:14:16,290 --> 00:14:17,129 by a myth. 212 00:14:17,130 --> 00:14:19,030 Reality can be fueled by a myth. 213 00:14:19,310 --> 00:14:20,310 Yes, absolutely. 214 00:14:20,570 --> 00:14:23,910 And is our government doing anything about that? 215 00:14:24,230 --> 00:14:25,230 Well. 216 00:14:25,450 --> 00:14:28,250 We have fair housing laws now. We don't have fair housing yet. 217 00:14:28,590 --> 00:14:32,910 I don't think we realize how much effort went into creating segregation. 218 00:14:33,410 --> 00:14:38,050 We had cooperation from individual homeowners all the way up to the federal 219 00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:42,630 government to reorder our society in a way that harmed black Americans and 220 00:14:42,630 --> 00:14:43,630 helped white Americans. 221 00:14:43,730 --> 00:14:47,730 So you have to break it up. You have to do what you did to create it. 222 00:14:50,790 --> 00:14:53,850 To end segregation, you have to break it up. 223 00:14:54,570 --> 00:14:55,570 I agree. 224 00:14:56,070 --> 00:15:01,410 But how can you fight something that's so widespread and so subtle? 225 00:15:09,290 --> 00:15:12,090 St. Petersburg, Pinellas County, Florida. 226 00:15:12,610 --> 00:15:16,770 It looks like a prosperous vacation town, its harbors filled with yachts and 227 00:15:16,770 --> 00:15:18,210 backyards dotted with pools. 228 00:15:20,270 --> 00:15:24,800 But in a small cluster of five schools on the poorer south side, Test scores 229 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:25,800 have collapsed. 230 00:15:26,140 --> 00:15:30,300 Students can't read at grade level and they're failing in math and English. 231 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,600 I'm meeting civil rights attorney Amir Whitaker. I'm hoping that Amir can help 232 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,560 me find out exactly what is happening here and why. 233 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:46,320 What makes Pinellas so unique? We talk about how it sits in the state 234 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,460 nationally, but let's kind of... 235 00:15:48,700 --> 00:15:51,060 Break down a little bit of that. What have you found that makes it so 236 00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:55,480 particularly egregious? The Florida Department of Education looked at the 237 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,400 achievement elementary schools, and they found at the bottom of that list, or I 238 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:00,720 guess the top, right? 239 00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:02,760 If you look at the 15. 240 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,660 Pinellas has five in there, number one, number two, and then a couple more. 241 00:16:07,060 --> 00:16:11,300 Five of the worst 15 performing schools. In the state and probably in the 242 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:15,680 country, right? And they're all clustered into this area that was 243 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,560 through housing discrimination and other policies where most African Americans 244 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:20,560 are in the county. 245 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,420 Five out of the top 15, which is incredible. 246 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:27,540 Right. Side by side. There's a dual education system here in Pinellas. If 247 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:29,740 black, it looks a certain way. If you're white, it looks a certain way. 248 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:33,580 Amir tells me that the majority white schools on the north side are 249 00:16:33,580 --> 00:16:34,940 outperforming the state averages. 250 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:41,880 But here, on the south side, in the five worst schools, 95 % of black students 251 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,540 are failing reading or math. 252 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,820 Amir has analyzed the data, but we're canvassing the community to try to 253 00:16:52,820 --> 00:16:55,500 understand what's behind those disturbing numbers. 254 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,420 Most of the teachers, I don't know, they try to teach the students, but some of 255 00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:05,240 them just fall back and let the kids go, just passing it on. 256 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,099 And nobody paying their attention, so I think they need to work on paying the 257 00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:10,099 kids' attention. 258 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,300 A pattern of stories quickly emerges. 259 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:17,460 High teacher turnover, failing test scores, school staff stretched too thin. 260 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:20,880 Morning. 261 00:17:21,060 --> 00:17:22,599 Can we talk to you all for a second? 262 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:26,859 My name is Amir. I'm a civil rights lawyer looking into things happening in 263 00:17:26,859 --> 00:17:27,859 schools here. 264 00:17:28,210 --> 00:17:29,210 I'm Jesse Williams. 265 00:17:29,730 --> 00:17:33,850 How you doing? We're looking into the school system here. We'd love to just 266 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:38,390 some stories about what's going on and talk to you all, too, and hear about how 267 00:17:38,390 --> 00:17:39,610 you like school and what's happening. 268 00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:41,510 I want them to change schools. 269 00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:45,210 I want them to go to Bay Point next year. I do not want them going to 270 00:17:45,250 --> 00:17:46,330 That is one of the worst schools. 271 00:17:46,830 --> 00:17:51,050 They all went to school since they was one years old. Every single one of them 272 00:17:51,050 --> 00:17:54,090 went to school. She was a straight -A kid her whole life. 273 00:17:54,540 --> 00:17:58,020 Now all of a sudden she fell in math. She was the smartest kid you ever seen. 274 00:17:58,060 --> 00:18:01,920 Now she having a problem with math. I just don't understand it. I just think 275 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,240 that school ain't teaching her. Well, everybody struggles a little bit here 276 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,440 there. I know, but giving her to her full attention. 277 00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:12,380 Sunshine and Andre Walker's family just moved near Lakewood Elementary, one of 278 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:13,440 the five failing schools. 279 00:18:14,140 --> 00:18:16,560 They echo themes we've heard all along the campus. 280 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:21,100 Two of their children, who thrived at their last school, were even held back a 281 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:21,979 grade. 282 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:24,000 Do you feel connected to your teachers? 283 00:18:25,180 --> 00:18:26,180 Sometimes. 284 00:18:27,260 --> 00:18:30,220 I don't have like five different teachers this year. 285 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,860 He just started like Tuesday, my new one. Getting close to the end of the 286 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:38,080 year and you're still getting new teachers coming in. 287 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,520 You too, huh? 288 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:47,760 And he has bonding issues like a little bit of anxiety when he first meets a new 289 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:48,760 teacher. 290 00:18:49,610 --> 00:18:53,190 It hurts my heart to hear parents say that. You know, we're talking about 291 00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:56,710 schools that are now F and failing schools that were A schools, that were B 292 00:18:56,710 --> 00:19:01,510 schools. And now, if there's no school you can just go to, that's not a D or an 293 00:19:01,510 --> 00:19:02,690 F school on the South Side. 294 00:19:24,910 --> 00:19:28,370 name and number along with a detailed message and we will return your call as 295 00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:29,770 soon as possible. Thank you. 296 00:19:31,570 --> 00:19:36,410 Hi, my name is Rosario Dawson. I'm here in Flint, Michigan conducting interviews 297 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:39,710 about the water crisis here and I would love to be able to speak to Governor 298 00:19:39,710 --> 00:19:43,730 Snyder the sooner you can get back to me the sooner we can put this interview on 299 00:19:43,730 --> 00:19:44,209 the book. 300 00:19:44,210 --> 00:19:45,210 Thank you so much. 301 00:19:50,310 --> 00:19:52,430 No one in charge will agree to an interview. 302 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Some people are being prosecuted, so everybody's lawyered up. 303 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,360 The closest I'm getting to speaking truth to power is a phone call I've 304 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,940 with a lawyer for former emergency manager Darnell Early. 305 00:20:06,180 --> 00:20:10,060 In preparing for the call, I come across something insane. 306 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:16,760 By law, emergency managers enjoy immunity from prosecution unless 307 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,720 negligence can be established. 308 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,600 When it was discovered that there was a problem with the water and Detroit said 309 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:29,960 that they would switch back at no additional charge, why then did Darnell 310 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:30,960 say no? 311 00:20:31,020 --> 00:20:36,620 Darnell Early, when he first got in October of 2013 or thereabouts, the 312 00:20:36,620 --> 00:20:41,520 to terminate the contract with the Detroit water system had been made 313 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,960 And because of the money that had been invested. 314 00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:48,790 He turned it down because they could not afford a long -term deal, even if some 315 00:20:48,790 --> 00:20:50,850 of the costs were going to be absorbed by Detroit. 316 00:20:51,290 --> 00:20:55,330 I'm just curious, at what point is an emergency manager's actions going to 317 00:20:55,330 --> 00:20:56,910 to the level of prosecution? 318 00:20:57,250 --> 00:21:00,370 Like, what responsibility or accountability can be expected? 319 00:21:00,830 --> 00:21:05,810 He has said that he is accountable based on a leadership standpoint, and that he 320 00:21:05,810 --> 00:21:11,170 wished he had done more, could do more. He's even apologized to the public in a 321 00:21:11,170 --> 00:21:12,170 very public way. 322 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:17,660 But that's because he should be blamed for what was a water treatment process 323 00:21:17,660 --> 00:21:21,160 failure by the experts who he relied on. 324 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:24,920 So overseeing the poisoning of a city isn't criminal negligence? 325 00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:31,340 I'm not crazy about the way you cast that. 326 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,400 Political appointees, emergency managers. 327 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:39,820 Public officials, they should not be prosecuted for detrimental reliance on 328 00:21:39,820 --> 00:21:41,960 those who have greater expertise than they do. 329 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,280 Absolutely not. 330 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:48,960 If you're an emergency manager, your duties and responsibilities are to right 331 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:50,040 the financial shift. 332 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,460 When you ask about an apartment, you're looking for a one -bedroom. So if he 333 00:22:00,460 --> 00:22:01,960 offers a studio, that's too small. 334 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,860 If he offers a bigger size unit, it's probably going to be too expensive. So 335 00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:07,660 you're sticking with a one bedroom. 336 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:12,960 So when is an apartment available? Price range? 337 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:14,300 New apartment. 338 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:21,020 Make $41 ,000 a year. My wife, Suzanne, makes $29 ,000. 339 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,920 I've been at my job for four years. She's been at job for six. 340 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,060 Remember my phone number? 341 00:22:28,380 --> 00:22:29,700 Yes, remember your phone number. 342 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,880 It's not unlike many others who have not in the past. 343 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,040 My name is Roger White. 344 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:43,500 Roger Sean. 345 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,760 Oh, the white means I'm white. 346 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,460 So my name is Roger Sean. My wife's name is Mona. 347 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:56,920 She works at Cavalry Hospital, and we're looking for $1 ,300 to $1 ,500 one 348 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,920 bedroom. 349 00:22:58,190 --> 00:23:02,490 We're doing that because my wife would love to be a little closer to where she 350 00:23:02,490 --> 00:23:03,490 works. 351 00:23:03,570 --> 00:23:05,150 She's now 30 years old. 352 00:23:07,030 --> 00:23:12,650 Fred Freiberg's group is an investigative outfit that hires actors 353 00:23:12,650 --> 00:23:14,030 they're searching for apartments. 354 00:23:15,190 --> 00:23:16,870 Today, that's what I'm doing. 355 00:23:17,490 --> 00:23:22,270 I'll be carrying a hidden camera to find out whether a landlord racially 356 00:23:22,270 --> 00:23:26,330 discriminates. Will the landlord tell one thing to me? 357 00:23:27,050 --> 00:23:28,230 and another to LB. 358 00:23:29,170 --> 00:23:34,010 If the landlord treats us differently, Fred Center intends to sue him. 359 00:23:34,490 --> 00:23:38,910 We did test a number of buildings in the neighborhood you're going to and found 360 00:23:38,910 --> 00:23:41,850 this one was, in fact, discriminating based on race. 361 00:23:42,790 --> 00:23:47,630 Your organization has been in business for 11 years, and you've sued often, I 362 00:23:47,630 --> 00:23:53,530 understand. We do sue often. When we find discrimination, we have not lost a 363 00:23:53,530 --> 00:23:54,530 case. 364 00:23:55,340 --> 00:23:58,720 But why are you, I mean, you're exceedingly white. 365 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:06,840 Yes, but I realize the harm that comes to everybody, including white people in 366 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,040 the society and living in a segregated society. 367 00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:14,220 I know I was greatly impaired growing up in a segregated white neighborhood, 368 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:18,540 going to segregated white schools, not having contact with people of other 369 00:24:18,540 --> 00:24:23,080 and cultures, impaired my ability to function now in a more multiracial 370 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,360 It's L .B. Williams tagging in as Lawrence Williams. 371 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,400 So that is recorded. 372 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,860 The camera? Yeah, this is the camera. The camera's right there. So when it 373 00:24:43,860 --> 00:24:47,700 in your pocket, it's perfect. 374 00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:16,770 We tend to think of education as a personal problem. 375 00:25:17,690 --> 00:25:22,070 It could be bad luck with a teacher this year, or kids going through a phase. 376 00:25:22,990 --> 00:25:28,210 But here, in Pinellas County, Florida, the schools have become a collective 377 00:25:28,210 --> 00:25:30,830 problem affecting an entire community. 378 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:33,310 So why? 379 00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:35,530 Why is this happening here? 380 00:25:36,490 --> 00:25:40,770 I taught high school in Philadelphia, where our school system always seemed to 381 00:25:40,770 --> 00:25:41,770 be on the verge of bankruptcy. 382 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,040 But St. Petersburg isn't a poor city. In fact, it has one of the highest per 383 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,220 capita income levels in all of Florida. 384 00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:53,720 But beneath the surface, this sunny tourist town has a darker side. 385 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:58,740 A history of housing discrimination packed much of the county's black 386 00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:00,220 into south St. Petersburg. 387 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,080 And when school busing began in 1971, whites rioted against desegregation. 388 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,360 Riots erupted again in 1996. 389 00:26:11,340 --> 00:26:14,660 after the police killed an unarmed black man, Tyrone Lewis. 390 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:21,220 But throughout the 80s and 90s, the schools in South St. Petersburg seemed 391 00:26:21,220 --> 00:26:22,220 doing fine. 392 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,060 It wasn't until 2007 that the bottom began to fall out. 393 00:26:26,940 --> 00:26:30,760 In the news coverage from that year, one school board member's name appears 394 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,900 again and again, sounding the alarm. 395 00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:34,500 Mary Brown. 396 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,940 Each year, of course, you look at the budget and see where you can cut costs. 397 00:26:41,140 --> 00:26:45,980 Right. The school board felt, well, we have a budget cut that we have to make, 398 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:49,700 and we've got to cut out busing some children. 399 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,760 So we were talking about a vote on whether we end busing. The vote was that 400 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,340 would go back to neighborhood schools. 401 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,400 And now you called it neighborhood schools. 402 00:26:58,660 --> 00:26:59,760 They're segregated schools. 403 00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,159 They're segregated schools. 404 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,460 Yeah, that's the bottom line. 405 00:27:02,740 --> 00:27:04,220 They're segregated schools. 406 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,720 The parents thought that they would get everything they needed. 407 00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:13,440 Some of the people of the black community thought, oh, the money has to 408 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,419 with the children. 409 00:27:14,420 --> 00:27:18,020 Yeah. And the money should go with the children. Yeah. 410 00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:21,140 But the money didn't quite go with the children. 411 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,840 Why do you think the money never came, never went to where it was promised to 412 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:31,500 go? Because it went to other schools where they felt the need was greater. 413 00:27:32,220 --> 00:27:35,460 Why might they think their need is greater? What are some differences 414 00:27:35,460 --> 00:27:36,800 South County and those other schools? 415 00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:42,100 North County has more white children. South County has more minority children. 416 00:27:42,380 --> 00:27:49,060 Okay. And therefore, you can take 417 00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:52,120 that and think of it in any way you want to. 418 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,000 Funds didn't come like they were supposed to come. 419 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:01,200 Right. I just see a whole decade of children. 420 00:28:08,140 --> 00:28:09,620 Get up. Let's go. 421 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,180 Time to go to school. 422 00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:16,620 I told y 'all two times to go to school. 423 00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:28,900 In 2007, the Pinellas School Board didn't say they were voting for 424 00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:31,270 But how could they not know? 425 00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:39,910 For all of its spring break parties and Yankee retirees, this is the Jim Crow 426 00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:40,910 South. 427 00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:46,190 I remember my own father's stories about his school in Valdosta, Georgia. 428 00:28:47,430 --> 00:28:51,910 After a wave of protests across the South, the Supreme Court had ruled in 429 00:28:51,910 --> 00:28:55,830 v. Board of Education that segregated schools were unconstitutional. 430 00:28:56,890 --> 00:28:58,290 And in most of America, 431 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,260 desegregation meant busing. 432 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:07,340 In Valdosta, the white kids spat on my dad and his black classmates, and in 433 00:29:07,340 --> 00:29:10,680 cities across America, whites rioted against busing. 434 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,580 But American schools became more integrated, and the achievement gap 435 00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:20,120 white and black students narrowed to its lowest margin ever. 436 00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:25,380 But a recent series of court rulings has begun to weaken Brown v. Board. 437 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:31,510 And so, Every morning, Sunshine and Andre dress and feed their kids. 438 00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:37,150 They check their homework and make sure that their walk is safe, before handing 439 00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:40,570 them over to a school that is failing them in every measurable way. 440 00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:47,510 Sunshine and Andre's children, and an entire generation of their classmates, 441 00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:51,670 growing up in what are essentially the same separate and unequal schools that 442 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:54,190 the Supreme Court outlawed 60 years ago. 443 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,040 Councilman Eric Mays and his constituents continue the fight to tell 444 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,540 what's been happening here. 445 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,020 And today, there's a victory on that front. 446 00:30:36,620 --> 00:30:41,120 It's been more than two years since the water was switched, and five months 447 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,820 since President Obama declared a state of emergency. 448 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,060 Still, despite the waves, a presidential visit means the country is paying 449 00:30:49,060 --> 00:30:50,700 attention to what's happening here. 450 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:55,660 And to the Flintstones, that's a pretty big deal. 451 00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:07,100 apparently with the governor. 452 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:53,720 That's me. 453 00:31:56,140 --> 00:31:59,620 The American people are paying attention and they care about you. 454 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:01,360 That's the good news. 455 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,260 The bad news is that this should not have happened in the first place. 456 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,500 This was a man -made disaster. 457 00:32:14,620 --> 00:32:17,240 This was avoidable. This was preventable. 458 00:32:19,980 --> 00:32:26,960 An emergency manager was put in place whose mandate was primarily to 459 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,680 cut at all costs. 460 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,940 Listening to the president, it feels like he's summarizing the lessons I've 461 00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:36,940 learned in Flint. 462 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,860 It feels like after all they've been through and all they've done to help 463 00:32:41,860 --> 00:32:45,140 other, their voices have finally been heard. 464 00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:56,310 Can I get some water? 465 00:33:24,910 --> 00:33:27,430 The president's visit did not make the water safe. 466 00:33:28,230 --> 00:33:32,670 Even though Flint switched back to the Detroit system months ago, the water is 467 00:33:32,670 --> 00:33:34,370 still flowing through corroded pipes. 468 00:33:35,690 --> 00:33:40,250 To truly fix the problem, much of Flint's water infrastructure needs to be 469 00:33:40,250 --> 00:33:44,190 overhauled. And that will take a lot of money. 470 00:33:44,990 --> 00:33:46,590 And possibly many years. 471 00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:57,990 Fair Housing Justice Center is a nonprofit civil rights organization 472 00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:58,929 in New York City. 473 00:33:58,930 --> 00:34:03,890 What we did this past week here in New York is we tested in a predominantly 474 00:34:03,890 --> 00:34:09,370 white neighborhood and sent L .B. Williams and Norman Lear. 475 00:34:09,989 --> 00:34:15,469 And we actually have an audio and video account of what occurred during these 476 00:34:15,469 --> 00:34:17,969 visits. So this is L .B.'s recording. 477 00:34:19,650 --> 00:34:21,250 Hi. Hi. 478 00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:22,739 Are you the landlord? 479 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:24,379 Yes, sir. 480 00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:26,699 My wife and I are looking for a one -bedroom apartment. 481 00:34:27,820 --> 00:34:29,500 Last month, I rented one. 482 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,340 Two months ago, I rented two. 483 00:34:32,020 --> 00:34:34,540 Okay. At the moment, I have no vacancies here. 484 00:34:34,860 --> 00:34:35,940 Okay, no vacancies? 485 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,320 No, at the moment. 486 00:34:37,980 --> 00:34:42,040 Okay. When do you think you have one that will be available? One bedroom, I 487 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,859 don't expect. 488 00:34:42,860 --> 00:34:43,940 Two bedrooms, I don't expect. 489 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,380 Maybe a studio a little next month. Okay. 490 00:34:50,830 --> 00:34:53,150 He clearly said there was no one bedroom available. 491 00:34:53,770 --> 00:34:56,590 Clearly, he said it several times. 492 00:34:56,929 --> 00:35:02,770 So this was basically Tuesday night and then Wednesday morning, you visited the 493 00:35:02,770 --> 00:35:03,770 same landlord. 494 00:35:06,750 --> 00:35:07,890 Hey, how you doing? 495 00:35:08,650 --> 00:35:11,310 Hey, my wife was out here the other day. 496 00:35:11,770 --> 00:35:14,750 I guess you saw that sign. Yeah. 497 00:35:16,060 --> 00:35:19,200 We were looking for a one -bedroom apartment. 498 00:35:19,540 --> 00:35:24,760 I'm going to have a studio here, and I have one bedroom in Pelham Bay. 499 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,640 Uh -huh. 500 00:35:26,660 --> 00:35:28,180 I think I know where that is. 501 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,540 In the studio here. 502 00:35:31,240 --> 00:35:33,180 Studio, I'm going to have end of the month here. 503 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:34,299 Uh -huh. 504 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,440 Terrific. I thank you very much, sir. 505 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,200 You. 506 00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:43,750 got told about a studio apartment in that building that was coming available. 507 00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:49,170 A one -bedroom apartment was available, which he's willing to show me, and a 508 00:35:49,170 --> 00:35:54,490 studio. Yeah, and the one bedroom, according to the recording, is in Pelham 509 00:35:54,490 --> 00:35:59,790 on Wellman Avenue, another predominantly white neighborhood. Last night, the way 510 00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:04,490 LB was treated, was that a surprise to you? No, it was not, because we had 511 00:36:04,490 --> 00:36:07,790 previously investigated this building and done multiple. 512 00:36:08,730 --> 00:36:14,730 African -American white tests at this building. And the exact conduct that we 513 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:19,770 observed on your test, we observed three additional previous times. The way this 514 00:36:19,770 --> 00:36:23,650 housing provider does business is to discriminate against African -Americans. 515 00:36:23,850 --> 00:36:28,410 Now, it's not against the law. It is. So why hasn't something been done about 516 00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:32,250 it? Well, I think part of it goes to this issue of the type of discrimination 517 00:36:32,250 --> 00:36:36,710 is. If LB had been a bona fide apartment seeker. 518 00:36:37,190 --> 00:36:42,230 he would have had no idea that the agent was lying to him about availabilities. 519 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:46,150 So you'd have no inclination to file a housing discrimination complaint. 520 00:36:46,810 --> 00:36:50,990 So everything we're talking about, how pervasive is this? 521 00:36:51,270 --> 00:36:55,830 I think it still accounts for much of the segregation that we see in our 522 00:36:55,830 --> 00:37:00,690 metropolitan region. It's one of the prominent factors, I think, in why we 523 00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:03,250 move more quickly toward a more integrated society. 524 00:37:03,730 --> 00:37:06,090 I think people of color carry... 525 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:13,300 additional baggage, through no fault of our own, that other people, that 526 00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,560 white people don't worry about, essentially. 527 00:37:16,260 --> 00:37:21,520 There's this issue that you always have to be aware of, that someone is going to 528 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:26,560 look at you differently, not for what you are, essentially, but for what you 529 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,560 look like. 530 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:34,360 It always saddens me, but consistently says to me, as an African American, 531 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,140 That I'm less than. 532 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,700 And that's a horrible feeling to feel. 533 00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:48,200 You deserve a lot of credit for doing this. 534 00:37:49,860 --> 00:37:51,340 I feel like I have to. 535 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,300 You know, it's my way of making a difference. 536 00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:59,640 I think hopefully shining a light on the problem. 537 00:38:00,250 --> 00:38:04,310 in this forum, by bringing the lawsuits that we subsequently will, in response 538 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:09,870 to these situations, will show the government that it is possible to 539 00:38:09,870 --> 00:38:13,470 this discriminatory conduct, but you've got to devote the enforcement resources 540 00:38:13,470 --> 00:38:14,890 to do it. 541 00:38:25,730 --> 00:38:30,750 Back in 2007, The Pinellas School Board promised that newly resegregated schools 542 00:38:30,750 --> 00:38:33,430 in South County would get the resources that they needed. 543 00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:36,550 But Mary Brown told me the funding never came. 544 00:38:38,650 --> 00:38:42,390 The federal Title I program provides additional funding for schools with high 545 00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:44,230 concentrations of low -income students. 546 00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:48,530 All five of the county's worst schools receive Title I support. 547 00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:54,450 I called the local Title I office, but they blew me off. So I'm dropping by in 548 00:38:54,450 --> 00:38:55,990 person to look at their public records. 549 00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:00,220 Hi, how are you? 550 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,720 I'm with Jesse Williams. 551 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:08,000 I don't have that information right now. 552 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:14,800 Not right now. We don't have anyone here that can help you with that. Do you 553 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,000 want to come back or make an appointment? 554 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:20,920 Who are you? 555 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:25,500 I'm shooting a Norman Lear documentary, America Divided. I'm Jesse Williams. 556 00:39:30,810 --> 00:39:32,890 Is there a reason for the hostility? 557 00:39:33,370 --> 00:39:35,050 What's the problem with that? 558 00:39:38,610 --> 00:39:43,090 The Title I office called the police on me instead of talking, and it's hard for 559 00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:45,030 anyone here to get answers from the school system. 560 00:39:46,570 --> 00:39:50,870 So families like the Tuckers must drive across Pinellas to attend the monthly 561 00:39:50,870 --> 00:39:52,490 school board meetings in North County. 562 00:39:57,610 --> 00:40:00,810 They join Ashley Green and the Dream Defenders for the protest outside. 563 00:40:01,150 --> 00:40:02,990 Our children deserve wins! 564 00:40:03,310 --> 00:40:05,170 Win! Win! Win! 565 00:40:05,670 --> 00:40:07,250 Win! Win! Win! 566 00:40:07,730 --> 00:40:09,350 All right, let's do this! 567 00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:14,410 Inside, they are each given three minutes to speak to the people 568 00:40:14,410 --> 00:40:15,410 their children's future. 569 00:40:16,490 --> 00:40:19,870 You can argue about the money. You can argue about the resources. 570 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:24,730 But if we're truly talking about equity and equity for black kids, the black 571 00:40:24,730 --> 00:40:26,750 students here, they need more resources. 572 00:40:27,260 --> 00:40:30,680 My son's education is important just like anybody's kid's important, black, 573 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:34,440 white, Asian, anything. These children, my children, the children that attend 574 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680 these schools are not failures. They're not dumb. 575 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,640 They need more help. I challenge you from the position that you stand to 576 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,580 actually serve the students whom you are entrusted. 577 00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:52,120 The constant excuses, the constant telling us that we're not doing enough 578 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,220 causing us to explode. 579 00:40:55,470 --> 00:40:58,910 I want to invite you all out to a community barbecue that we're going to 580 00:40:58,910 --> 00:41:00,410 having on March 19th. 581 00:41:02,090 --> 00:41:04,070 We have to limit to three minutes. Thank you, though. 582 00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:09,530 So we will do our board meeting evaluation and be in adjournment. 583 00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:24,610 The Title I office still won't talk to us, but I managed to track down copies 584 00:41:24,610 --> 00:41:25,610 the state audits. 585 00:41:26,430 --> 00:41:29,590 And it's immediately clear that Mary Brown is right. 586 00:41:30,930 --> 00:41:35,290 The state auditors repeatedly cite Pinellas County for staffing the schools 587 00:41:35,290 --> 00:41:38,410 unqualified teachers and for misallocation of funds. 588 00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:44,150 So I dig a little deeper and find that in spite of all their promises to the 589 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:48,130 contrary, funding after segregation was erratic at best. 590 00:41:49,770 --> 00:41:53,670 Some years, the failing schools received less money from the county than other 591 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:54,670 schools in the district. 592 00:42:00,190 --> 00:42:04,290 Though the superintendent refuses to talk to me, I set up a meeting with a 593 00:42:04,290 --> 00:42:08,270 school board member who voted to end busing and presided over the 594 00:42:08,270 --> 00:42:09,270 of Pinellas schools. 595 00:42:10,890 --> 00:42:11,890 Linda Lerner. 596 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,860 We spoke yesterday. I stopped by. I was looking for an apartment, that one 597 00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:27,860 -bedroom apartment. 598 00:42:28,220 --> 00:42:30,200 My wife had seen the sign. 599 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,620 Can we make a date to look at that? We're interested. 600 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,340 The time has come to confront the landlord who discriminated against OB, 601 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:43,220 him no one -bedroom apartments were available. 602 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,260 I will see you at 9 .30 at 2854. 603 00:42:48,820 --> 00:42:49,820 Thank you. 604 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,540 I must say I'm good at this. 605 00:42:55,780 --> 00:42:57,120 I spent 606 00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:05,080 my 607 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,080 career creating characters whose lives would shine a light on our divided 608 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,080 society. 609 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,100 The point was to move beyond the divisions. 610 00:43:15,100 --> 00:43:20,420 But being a part of this experiment has shown me that racism still stands. 611 00:43:21,070 --> 00:43:26,630 our country, through subtle words and gestures that shut people of color out 612 00:43:26,630 --> 00:43:29,090 neighborhoods and out of opportunity. 613 00:43:30,730 --> 00:43:36,890 The landlord's actions placed me on one side of the divide and L .B. on the 614 00:43:36,890 --> 00:43:41,010 other. Now I want to see how he will answer for himself. 615 00:43:55,400 --> 00:44:00,960 With a hidden camera and a producer posing as my daughter, we continue the 616 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,180 charade as he shows us an apartment in the building. 617 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,780 Two windows. 618 00:44:35,830 --> 00:44:39,090 Do you remember that face? 619 00:44:41,590 --> 00:44:45,270 Because he came looking for an apartment just the other day. And you told him 620 00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:47,290 that the one bedroom of the studio was available. 621 00:44:48,370 --> 00:44:49,750 I didn't have no one bedroom. 622 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:53,170 We have one at Wellman Avenue, but we were supposed to be there. 623 00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:59,230 I'm sorry to cost you this way, but there were no blacks in the building, 624 00:44:59,230 --> 00:45:00,970 we're not going to rent to blacks in the building. 625 00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:02,950 Come with me. 626 00:45:03,110 --> 00:45:04,110 Come with me. 627 00:45:04,890 --> 00:45:05,290 I 628 00:45:05,290 --> 00:45:15,730 don't 629 00:45:15,730 --> 00:45:16,730 want the camera here. 630 00:45:22,220 --> 00:45:25,240 though it says he'll take us to meet some of his black tenants. 631 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,560 But after we enter the building, he changes his mind and says he doesn't 632 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:32,560 disturb them. 633 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,840 He lied, I believe. 634 00:45:41,460 --> 00:45:44,260 And he represents a good deal of America. 635 00:45:46,460 --> 00:45:47,460 And I'm... 636 00:45:47,630 --> 00:45:52,770 I'm not sad because they're bad guys. I'm sad because we don't have a culture 637 00:45:52,770 --> 00:45:58,370 that discusses us with them, with the so -called good guys. 638 00:45:59,310 --> 00:46:03,350 You know, we're all going to have to know about it, think about it, talk 639 00:46:03,350 --> 00:46:06,750 it before we ever get past it. 640 00:46:07,330 --> 00:46:13,990 I feel sadder for having done it because this is our America and it 641 00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:15,070 isn't what we promised. 642 00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:29,900 So in 2007, there was a vote cast that seriously impacted predominantly black 643 00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:34,700 population and a generation of that population that has been pushed into the 644 00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:39,280 most underserved and underperforming schools in the nation. One of the really 645 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,640 unique things that you provide to this narrative is that you were there. 646 00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:45,540 Is that something, looking back on it, that you regret? 647 00:46:45,780 --> 00:46:49,380 No, I don't regret the vote. Our goal was not to segregate the schools. 648 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,620 Our goal was to attract diversity. 649 00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,920 It wasn't like there was no plan. So that's what I want to get into. So you 650 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,400 at the hearing that we're going to be held accountable by our constituents, 651 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,200 community, to follow through. And that may mean taking some resources from 652 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,680 schools. And that's not easy. 653 00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,300 I believe we understood that when we put that commitment to place. This is 654 00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:13,120 attributed to you. So the part of the deal was we're going to segregate the 655 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,140 schools. But we're going to add resources to supplement that. We may 656 00:47:17,140 --> 00:47:20,220 resources for a very high poverty area. 657 00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:22,980 They did have extra money as Title I schools. 658 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,360 They actually did have, I can't tell you the amount, lots of extra money. But, 659 00:47:27,380 --> 00:47:29,020 you know, we're looking through the numbers. 660 00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:33,580 And in 2008, an audit, which is really the first full year after this decision 661 00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:37,700 was made, was showing that the funds were misallocated. I won't even get into 662 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:40,120 that. I can send you to their head of finance. 663 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,500 That is completely false. 664 00:47:42,030 --> 00:47:45,730 But that 2008 audit, that's where I'm getting that information from the 665 00:47:45,730 --> 00:47:46,990 highlighted sections in particular. 666 00:47:47,250 --> 00:47:50,130 That's what's saying very specifically that the funds were misallocated. 667 00:47:50,130 --> 00:47:51,130 Absolutely not true. 668 00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:56,430 Starting in 2013, 2014, we started putting extra money in those five 669 00:47:56,490 --> 00:48:01,230 What strikes me is that what we're talking about is 2013, 14, but the 670 00:48:01,230 --> 00:48:06,390 was made in 2007, 8. We have other schools that have high numbers of 671 00:48:06,390 --> 00:48:09,630 students. So why are these five schools getting it? Because there was the 672 00:48:09,630 --> 00:48:10,630 recognition. 673 00:48:11,260 --> 00:48:16,040 That these were the schools that were most in need of those resources. 674 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,680 And when did they become in need of those resources? 675 00:48:21,540 --> 00:48:24,900 When did they become in need of those resources? Yes, you identified a need. 676 00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:28,540 I'm wondering how do you measure that need and when did you find out they had 677 00:48:28,540 --> 00:48:34,180 need? I'm just saying before we gave some extra resources, we had 678 00:48:34,620 --> 00:48:38,780 But when we really looked at the data and what was happening, recognized... 679 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:41,600 Pardon? Is this 2014? 680 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:48,060 I think it'll be four years and next July. Next July. I won't accept that we 681 00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:50,760 were doing nothing. That's not true. Were we doing enough? 682 00:48:51,020 --> 00:48:56,040 No. And another big part of it, as you know, having been a teacher, and you 683 00:48:56,040 --> 00:49:02,120 understand all of this, it's attracting and retaining the most highly qualified 684 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,820 teachers who really want to be here. 685 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,460 The 2012 state audit said that 171 teachers were not. 686 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:10,540 were not qualified and they needed to be qualified, and they were receiving 687 00:49:10,540 --> 00:49:14,480 those federal funds. I've admitted that we did things but could have done more. 688 00:49:14,540 --> 00:49:17,160 You keep going back to it. Because that kid gets one chance. 689 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:18,960 He gets one chance. 690 00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:25,600 You keep wanting me to say how terrible I was with the vote, how bad I was to 691 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:30,600 vote for that, how I was going to make schools that were underperforming. I 692 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:31,600 won't agree to that. 693 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,380 It seems like the whole school system here is in denial. 694 00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:44,760 But momentum is growing behind a cluster of community groups that are demanding 695 00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:45,760 change. 696 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,320 The Dream Descenders have convened a meeting in a local park. 697 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,920 And some parents, like Sunshine and Andre, are joining them for the very 698 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920 time. 699 00:49:56,740 --> 00:49:57,260 Sunshine 700 00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:05,160 and 701 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,080 Andre had been looking for a way to get their children out of Lakewood. 702 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,620 But now they want to stay and join the growing movement for change. 703 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,820 They're organizing to transform their schools collectively rather than escape 704 00:50:16,820 --> 00:50:17,820 them individually. 705 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,800 Dream Defenders Barbecue, where you have this kind of intersection of 706 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,380 organizers, activists, and parents, and students. How does that feel? 707 00:50:26,820 --> 00:50:30,440 I love to see people coming together for a good cause like this, man. 708 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:35,080 The only thing I wish it was more people. I wish this whole part was 709 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:36,080 people and parents. 710 00:50:36,190 --> 00:50:38,730 To have kids and trying to get the word out. 711 00:50:38,990 --> 00:50:42,650 To me, I think we're going to join whatever we got to join so we can help. 712 00:50:43,350 --> 00:50:46,950 It was the fight for school desegregation that launched the civil 713 00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:49,950 movement. And it didn't begin with a courtroom argument. 714 00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:54,990 It began with black students and their parents organizing across the South. 715 00:50:56,250 --> 00:50:59,530 The Dream Defenders invited the school board to come to this meeting. 716 00:51:00,030 --> 00:51:01,150 None of them showed. 717 00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:04,010 But I can feel something building here. 718 00:51:04,460 --> 00:51:08,400 Something the school board will not be able to ignore for very much longer. 719 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:28,580 Before I head home, I want to say goodbye to a new friend, Councilman Eric 720 00:51:29,660 --> 00:51:32,240 He says I'll find him at a place that's close to his heart. 721 00:51:33,020 --> 00:51:37,850 Somewhere. He finds solace in the ongoing battle over the future of Flint. 722 00:51:39,170 --> 00:51:40,990 Hi. Hey, how you doing? 723 00:51:41,310 --> 00:51:43,550 How are you, company? 724 00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:52,370 This is a place to come and reflect and build back up your 725 00:51:52,370 --> 00:51:53,830 strength and momentum. 726 00:51:54,050 --> 00:51:59,770 It's very encouraging. It's a good place to come every now and then. I worked 727 00:51:59,770 --> 00:52:02,050 over in the plant UAWTF. 728 00:52:02,650 --> 00:52:05,010 And this is the sit -down strike monument. 729 00:52:06,110 --> 00:52:11,030 When you look at these guys, even though they're sitting down, they protest. 730 00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:20,610 Councilman May tells me that in December 1936, workers demanding better wages 731 00:52:20,610 --> 00:52:23,550 and conditions occupied Flint's GM factory. 732 00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:25,690 They stayed through New Year. 733 00:52:27,590 --> 00:52:31,930 As they sit down in the plant, I want to show you what the women did. 734 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:38,560 They were breaking out the windows and bringing the men food and supplies. 735 00:52:49,580 --> 00:52:54,960 And this woman here took more than one police to drag her on. 736 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,340 She was really something. 737 00:52:59,820 --> 00:53:05,640 Even when the police attacked with tear gas, the workers stayed put for six 738 00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,640 weeks. 739 00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:13,440 In the end, General Motors negotiated, acceded to many demands, and for the 740 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,220 first time recognized the United Auto Workers Union. 741 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:24,980 And unions started to form across all major industries, ushering in a golden 742 00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:26,060 for American workers. 743 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:37,160 So this monument is a very encouraging place to come in the middle of the 744 00:53:37,220 --> 00:53:38,220 right? 745 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:43,520 It reminds you that you have to stay active. 746 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,280 There's a spirit of activism here that's really necessary. 747 00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:50,660 I call myself an activist. 748 00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:53,680 You call yourself a what? An activist. 749 00:53:54,020 --> 00:53:54,879 An activist. 750 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,660 They're naming us actorvists. You know, actors, they're also activists. 751 00:53:58,980 --> 00:53:59,980 Right. Mm -hmm. 752 00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:08,700 This monument makes me continue to believe that organizing and fighting is 753 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:14,440 right. The labor strike was a fight of the middle class to get better working 754 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:21,100 conditions and economics. The water fight is still an economic turbo 755 00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:25,920 war. You had the emergency manager coming in, taking over control. 756 00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:32,620 And I think that's what I want people to understand about the water crisis. It 757 00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:39,460 wasn't just the quality of the water. It was who would control the water in 758 00:54:39,460 --> 00:54:40,460 the future. 759 00:54:40,860 --> 00:54:46,560 From the history of the city of Flint and the way we've operated as a people, 760 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:49,620 Flintstones, we will be successful. 761 00:54:57,260 --> 00:54:58,780 I have to show them they will care. 762 00:54:59,020 --> 00:55:01,700 They mess with the wrong people when they mess with Flint. 763 00:55:01,940 --> 00:55:05,640 We're going to stand up and fight back. We ain't taking it. We ain't going to be 764 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,420 quiet. We ain't going to be silent. 765 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,980 We're going to keep on fighting. We're taking it. 766 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,020 But they take it away from us. 767 00:55:17,180 --> 00:55:17,620 On 768 00:55:17,620 --> 00:55:26,520 the 769 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:27,520 next. 770 00:55:49,379 --> 00:55:54,380 This disease is hollowing out suburban and small -town America. 66768

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