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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,290 --> 00:00:29,290 There were a number of very unfortunate experiences that I had right around 2 00:00:29,290 --> 00:00:33,730 puberty that really established the link between 3 00:00:33,730 --> 00:00:38,690 my blossoming sexuality and shame. 4 00:00:42,290 --> 00:00:47,950 My neighbor Susie and I were going on a picnic. We had a blanket, we had a 5 00:00:47,950 --> 00:00:51,510 little basket of lunch, and we were walking along the path. 6 00:00:51,730 --> 00:00:53,330 We were going to go find a picnic spot. 7 00:00:53,980 --> 00:01:00,920 And as we're walking, all of a sudden, this guy comes out of the woods 8 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,160 and he comes right up to me and says, come with me. 9 00:01:05,540 --> 00:01:09,180 And he was a pretty big, burly guy. 10 00:01:09,460 --> 00:01:15,580 And I remember very distinctly that his fly was open. And I went to try to run 11 00:01:15,580 --> 00:01:17,400 from him and he grabbed me. 12 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:21,900 And he tried to drag me into the woods. 13 00:01:25,930 --> 00:01:32,630 I was screaming, blood -curdling screaming, and I just fighting down, up, 14 00:01:32,810 --> 00:01:37,550 up, down, up. I just, I was just like an animal. I was just like a little caught 15 00:01:37,550 --> 00:01:38,550 animal. 16 00:01:44,830 --> 00:01:46,810 And finally he took off. 17 00:01:47,230 --> 00:01:48,230 He fled. 18 00:01:49,250 --> 00:01:50,730 He couldn't contain me. 19 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:52,910 And... 20 00:01:54,760 --> 00:02:01,340 My parents, they open the door and the police are standing there with me and my 21 00:02:01,340 --> 00:02:07,800 mother hauls off and slams me in the face and screams, I told you not to go 22 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:08,800 the woods. 23 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,860 And my father just stands there like a wimp, like he usually did. 24 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,660 The only one that comforted me was the policeman. He just took me in his arms 25 00:02:17,660 --> 00:02:18,660 and held me. 26 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,100 My parents never, never did. 27 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:30,680 I was put to bed, and I just felt so sick. I was just sick to my stomach. 28 00:02:30,740 --> 00:02:34,660 Nothing, I couldn't, I wasn't, I didn't feel human. 29 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:39,280 It was just, I, it was just, you know, you don't feel like a person. 30 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:49,080 My father, a year after this happened to me, actually had the nerve to say, 31 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,020 women who are raped are asking for it. 32 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:58,300 If I didn't already have it implanted in my brain, he just firmly 33 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:01,460 implanted that idea. 34 00:03:11,140 --> 00:03:16,820 Like slivers of glass, moments of shame slide into us, and we begin to limp. 35 00:03:19,210 --> 00:03:22,590 Sometimes the shards are so small we don't even feel them. 36 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:28,070 If left untended, over time they can cripple us. 37 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:33,250 Our shame stories are not the same. 38 00:03:34,310 --> 00:03:38,930 But maybe if we are brave enough to share them, we will discover a common 39 00:03:38,930 --> 00:03:39,930 thread. 40 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:42,650 Evidence that we are not alone. 41 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:10,360 I grew up with a shame that was just unspoken. No one spoke about sex. 42 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:14,440 I knew it wasn't bad inherently, but I knew that it wasn't for me. 43 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:23,980 In fourth grade, I had a business where I would draw comics of people fucking, 44 00:04:24,140 --> 00:04:28,180 okay? And they weren't just people, they were the teachers. 45 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,660 And, like, the teachers were fucking the children, and I didn't know. I'm just 46 00:04:33,660 --> 00:04:34,660 everybody's person. 47 00:04:36,849 --> 00:04:41,790 And I got subscriptions, 50 cents, and I was victim of people's lockers. 48 00:04:42,270 --> 00:04:44,730 And I was making, you know, there were stick figures. 49 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:47,930 No idea where I got any of this. 50 00:04:48,430 --> 00:04:50,090 And obviously I got caught. 51 00:04:50,930 --> 00:04:53,710 And I got in so much trouble. 52 00:04:56,130 --> 00:05:00,470 You know, they didn't understand how I was coming up with all of this. I don't 53 00:05:00,470 --> 00:05:04,970 even know. But I must have been so curious and so thirsty for information. 54 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,700 that it was coming out of me. 55 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:17,860 I became sort of fascinated with how I felt when I looked at it, 56 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:18,880 but I knew it was wrong. 57 00:05:24,540 --> 00:05:27,860 Very new things are getting out of hand because Bob became more and more 58 00:05:27,860 --> 00:05:32,140 demanding, but not wishing to lose his friendship or the prestige he enjoyed 59 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:33,980 from his friends for having an older boyfriend. 60 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,240 She complied with his desire. 61 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,020 Then Mary found she was in trouble and had to tell her parents. 62 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,640 But now it was too late for advice and Mary had to be taken out of school and 63 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,500 placed under the guidance of juvenile authorities. 64 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:51,040 Trying to move too quickly into a world of grown -ups with a young person's 65 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,920 faith often caused heartache and disaster. 66 00:05:56,580 --> 00:06:00,740 I would go with these guys in high school because I knew it was age 67 00:06:00,740 --> 00:06:02,840 and I should do it and all my friends were doing it. 68 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:08,600 And they would try and penetrate me, and it would be excruciatingly painful. 69 00:06:08,940 --> 00:06:13,820 And I'd bite down because I was too embarrassed to let them know they 70 00:06:13,820 --> 00:06:15,100 do it until I couldn't take it anymore. 71 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:16,800 And I'd just say, stop. 72 00:06:17,780 --> 00:06:20,100 I'm really sorry. And then, I'm apologizing. 73 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,940 I'm apologizing. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I know. I'm so sorry. 74 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:30,600 And I was so ashamed of it that I didn't want to talk to anybody about it. I 75 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,600 really didn't. 76 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:32,680 There was no internet. 77 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,820 So I couldn't even go and Google, you know, vagina clamp or whatever. 78 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,780 Vagina clamp shut. 79 00:06:41,460 --> 00:06:47,880 So I lived like that until I met my now ex -husband at 80 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,020 33. 81 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:57,180 So were you having sex during that period? When I met my husband, I had had 82 00:06:57,180 --> 00:06:58,680 five times. 83 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,440 And I used to joke about it. 84 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:06,940 with my boss at the time, and she would say, times, not people. 85 00:07:07,740 --> 00:07:08,780 Times, not people. 86 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:17,760 I felt very asexual. I knew that I had sexual feelings, but I just, I didn't 87 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,760 regard them. 88 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:26,400 I thought I was just one of those women who were frigid, and that I just 89 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,480 didn't enjoy it. I was one of those people who didn't enjoy it, and that was 90 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,480 lot in life. 91 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:40,140 We are constantly bombarded with sexual imagery and left 92 00:07:40,140 --> 00:07:42,180 to navigate the mixed messaging. 93 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:51,200 Have you had criminal sex? 94 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,620 Yeah. Well, then that would make you, from what the Bible says... 95 00:08:27,429 --> 00:08:34,289 How can we go out and conquer the world if this whole big piece 96 00:08:34,289 --> 00:08:38,760 of our existence, of our energy is... in denial. 97 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:52,440 In this closet are just pictures and pictures of books of photos 98 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,700 and journals. 99 00:08:57,340 --> 00:08:59,220 Okay, let's see what we can get through. 100 00:08:59,780 --> 00:09:06,220 It's complex because of course I knew to some degree that I was a pretty girl 101 00:09:06,220 --> 00:09:07,220 but I was insecure. 102 00:09:10,419 --> 00:09:12,920 I grew up in New York City. 103 00:09:13,620 --> 00:09:15,800 I was raised by my father and the stepmother. 104 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:19,560 Oh, isn't that pretty? 105 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Here's 13 -year -old Candy with a terribly embarrassed look on her face, 106 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:35,480 wouldn't with that hairdo? 107 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:42,620 I was a very alive, passionate little girl. I could really feel 108 00:09:42,620 --> 00:09:47,680 this stuff going on in my body. I didn't really know what it was. I didn't know 109 00:09:47,680 --> 00:09:51,420 how to identify it, but it was there. It was happening so intensely. 110 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:59,140 There was no sex ed in schools at that time, and my family never talked about 111 00:09:59,140 --> 00:10:00,140 sex. 112 00:10:01,740 --> 00:10:07,210 Here's the sum total of the closest thing my mother ever... Talk to me about 113 00:10:07,210 --> 00:10:08,210 that. 114 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:15,150 She said something like, I don't know how women could put that thing in their 115 00:10:15,150 --> 00:10:16,150 mouths. 116 00:10:19,030 --> 00:10:21,090 Can you imagine? 117 00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:25,110 And I can tell you that I did not put that thing in my mouth more than maybe 118 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:28,170 three times the whole time I was with my first boyfriend, the poor guy. 119 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:32,650 I know, the poor thing. 120 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,260 a whole bunch of... I have so many pictures of men here that I had little 121 00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:44,380 wonderful delicious slings with. 122 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,300 I lost my virginity when I was 18 with my first boyfriend. 123 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,280 I made him wait six months. 124 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:57,720 I remember that my mother had taken me to her female gynecologist. 125 00:10:57,980 --> 00:11:01,080 She asked me point blank, are you having sex with your boyfriend? 126 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,740 Yes. Are you on birth control? No. 127 00:11:03,940 --> 00:11:06,160 She wrote me a script for birth control pills. 128 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:07,560 They just became available. 129 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:14,660 So when my parents found out, my mother, I don't know, we were having some kind 130 00:11:14,660 --> 00:11:18,420 of fight or something, and she made the pronouncement, your father thinks you're 131 00:11:18,420 --> 00:11:19,420 a tramp. 132 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,700 And I told this woman doctor, she said, don't believe them, but, you know, be 133 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:28,700 your parents. 134 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,420 The damage goes deep. 135 00:11:49,010 --> 00:11:50,550 Why the closet? 136 00:11:51,290 --> 00:11:53,590 Why did I put the camera in the closet? 137 00:11:55,250 --> 00:12:00,010 Closets are really sort of important spaces in my life. 138 00:12:06,730 --> 00:12:11,790 One of my earliest memories is going through my sister's closet, going 139 00:12:11,790 --> 00:12:16,810 my mother's dresser, trying to find clothes and putting them on. 140 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,120 I didn't even know what I was doing, but I knew it was false. 141 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:32,620 And I felt the same over it. I mean, obviously, because I would hide it. I 142 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:36,780 wait until everyone had gone to bed or left the house. And then I would sneak 143 00:12:36,780 --> 00:12:43,080 the middle of the night and pull out her tutu or her bridesmaid dress or, I 144 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,200 don't know, whatever I could find, right? 145 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:53,060 I would put it on, and I knew that no one else could see, and I 146 00:12:53,060 --> 00:12:59,460 knew that no one else should see, but I knew that I needed to do it and that I 147 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:00,460 wanted to do it. 148 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,200 Just as a pilot can crash into the trees, we know that emotional damage and 149 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:08,760 other problems come from sharing physical intimacies outside of marriage. 150 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:12,520 So instead of trying to ask, what are the limits, we should follow standards 151 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:13,800 that will keep us safe. 152 00:13:14,350 --> 00:13:16,970 For the Strength of Youth provides this valuable standard. 153 00:13:17,510 --> 00:13:22,330 Before marriage, do not do anything to arouse the powerful emotions that must 154 00:13:22,330 --> 00:13:23,610 expressed only in marriage. 155 00:13:24,190 --> 00:13:27,770 In addition, For the Strength of Youth lists some specific things we should not 156 00:13:27,770 --> 00:13:33,850 do. It says, do not participate in passionate kissing, lie on top of 157 00:13:33,850 --> 00:13:38,590 person, touch the private sacred parts of another person's body with or without 158 00:13:38,590 --> 00:13:41,470 clothing, or allow anyone to do that to you. 159 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:46,900 The Mormon Church is not a good place to discover that you are transgender. 160 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,220 It's not a place where you have the resources to come out. 161 00:13:51,460 --> 00:13:58,200 It's a religion that deeply shames sexual expression and any sort of non 162 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,640 -conforming gender expression. 163 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:06,380 When I was 17, I really just started to freak out about it, and I decided I 164 00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:08,340 needed to repent, and I needed to repent. 165 00:14:09,020 --> 00:14:13,600 everything and i needed to stop being a sexual sinner and i needed to stop 166 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,980 whatever was going on with gender 167 00:14:15,980 --> 00:14:22,940 because you have to 168 00:14:22,940 --> 00:14:29,740 confess sexual sins to a priesthood leader right who at the time was 169 00:14:29,740 --> 00:14:34,780 my own father um i as a 17 year old 170 00:14:35,530 --> 00:14:41,930 I had to go into my father's office at the church and detail, and they asked 171 00:14:41,930 --> 00:14:47,030 detail, things that I had done sexually, and I talked about cross -dressing and 172 00:14:47,030 --> 00:14:52,030 just laid it all bare in front of, you know, someone who was acting in the 173 00:14:52,030 --> 00:14:57,430 capacity of my priesthood leader, but who was just, in fact, my own father. 174 00:15:01,110 --> 00:15:03,730 I ran for security. 175 00:15:04,780 --> 00:15:10,160 into the only dominant cultural fantasy to which I had been exposed, right? 176 00:15:10,380 --> 00:15:15,560 I grew up in a very, like, insulated family where that was my understanding 177 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,760 the world, that that was the only way I could find happiness. 178 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,920 When you put away something that is such a deep part of you intentionally, you 179 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,200 just become a very oppressive person. 180 00:15:36,650 --> 00:15:40,710 I had married a man who was absolutely lovely, dear, sweet man. 181 00:15:42,170 --> 00:15:47,370 We had no sex life, and I had never been really interested in sex, so it didn't 182 00:15:47,370 --> 00:15:48,510 seem to be that big of a deal. 183 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:51,710 I became more unhappy. 184 00:15:52,070 --> 00:15:56,410 I didn't understand what was wrong with me. I was on different cocktails of meds 185 00:15:56,410 --> 00:15:58,790 to try and fix my unhappiness, and nothing was working. 186 00:15:59,030 --> 00:16:04,250 And one day, my best friend told me to watch a television show called True 187 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:05,250 Blood. 188 00:16:08,110 --> 00:16:12,250 I watched it, and the two main characters were in love in real life, 189 00:16:12,250 --> 00:16:14,970 would have this sex scene, and it was really intense. 190 00:16:15,290 --> 00:16:18,310 The chemistry was palpable. 191 00:16:18,710 --> 00:16:25,470 And something just sort of triggered in me, and I just started bawling. And I 192 00:16:25,470 --> 00:16:29,410 kept rewinding the sex scene. You know, this is cable. It's not like, you know, 193 00:16:29,410 --> 00:16:34,050 hardcore porn, but it was this romantic and passionate, you know, thing. 194 00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:37,450 And it dawned on me that I'd never experienced that. 195 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:45,280 And I felt so sad because I could feel inside that it was an inherent part of 196 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:46,300 the human experience. 197 00:16:47,820 --> 00:16:52,060 And I wanted that, and I knew I was never going to have that with my 198 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,240 So I had to make a big, scary choice. 199 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:02,260 I just knew I had to get out of that house because the longer I stayed, the 200 00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:07,119 visceral the feeling of... 201 00:17:12,639 --> 00:17:16,079 despair. That, who put me here? I'm not living the life I'm supposed to live. 202 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:21,800 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Someone, I got woken up. And I know it sounds so 203 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:27,720 ooga booga, but it was my experience. I can't, you know, what can I say? But 204 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,160 it was really intense. 205 00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:41,200 I found a community online that I could be sexy with, I could flirt with, that 206 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,520 flirted back with me, and then I started exploring Twitter. 207 00:17:43,740 --> 00:17:48,480 I started tweeting as Lady Cheeky, and I met someone that I was flirting with 208 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:49,580 named Martin Gare. 209 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:59,580 And that person and I became friends, and then three months later, I 210 00:17:59,580 --> 00:18:01,100 ended up meeting him. 211 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,520 I, for the first time, experienced sexual passion. 212 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:16,580 I had been wooed for three months. I had been romanced and love letters and all 213 00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:21,520 this. So I was completely built up and had never enjoyed sex before. And now I 214 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:22,520 was enjoying sex. 215 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:32,680 I was able then to just be naked physically and then, you know, oddly 216 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,800 emotionally with him. 217 00:18:35,210 --> 00:18:38,950 which made the sex even better and made the passion even more intense. 218 00:18:40,670 --> 00:18:42,330 Once you go there, you can't go back. 219 00:18:49,850 --> 00:18:55,110 These are great shots. This is during one of the huge marches against the 220 00:18:55,110 --> 00:18:57,090 Vietnam War. 221 00:18:57,490 --> 00:19:00,470 We've got all those big marches for women's lives. 222 00:19:01,150 --> 00:19:03,990 And this is when I discovered the women's movement. 223 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,640 I discovered this coalition around the corner, and it spoke to me. 224 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,760 This was about 69, 70. 225 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:20,880 I became very politicized. I became a woman's liberal, as we used to call it 226 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:25,120 then. We had a table we set up on the grand concourse. We'd give out 227 00:19:25,460 --> 00:19:30,140 We actually, twice a year, would turn our storefront into a clinic. 228 00:19:30,620 --> 00:19:34,640 and we provided free pap smears for the neighborhood women. 229 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:43,060 So here I am sitting around during meetings with the women's group. While 230 00:19:43,060 --> 00:19:46,820 there, I would do these sketches of my sisters. 231 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,640 Friday nights, we turned it into a little, like, coffee house. 232 00:19:51,860 --> 00:19:56,780 Bronx Coalition Coffee House presentation by the Women's Collective, 233 00:19:56,780 --> 00:19:57,780 Woman? 234 00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:12,750 Equal rights to have a job, to have respect, not be viewed as a piece of 235 00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:17,190 Equal rights to set forth our own humanity. 236 00:20:18,990 --> 00:20:25,510 One of our big platforms was equal pleasure. 237 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:32,080 And that meant that we wanted our partners to understand us, to know our 238 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:37,540 and to listen to us and give us equal time in bed. And that's not what's 239 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:38,540 happening now. 240 00:20:57,830 --> 00:21:00,630 Lady Cheeky is a photo blog. 241 00:21:00,950 --> 00:21:06,270 It started as a photo blog. It became popular, and it sort of grew into a 242 00:21:06,270 --> 00:21:13,030 where I would blog erotic photos that depict real 243 00:21:13,030 --> 00:21:17,650 passion, that depict female enjoyment. 244 00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:20,870 This is my every morning. 245 00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:25,650 After you do this for a while, too, you see how different everything is. 246 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:33,140 Well, I mean, you've got your hardcore, and then you have your older man, 247 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:34,300 younger woman. 248 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:35,860 You have your nature shots. 249 00:21:37,980 --> 00:21:42,800 The Danes and the Swedes, I mean, that is some weird shit. 250 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:49,560 Some just want to show the girl being submissive, and it's all about the man's 251 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:50,560 pleasure. 252 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,620 I think that's hot. 253 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,260 Sometimes I can't really qualify for it. I just think it's kind of sexy. 254 00:21:57,740 --> 00:22:01,260 Even if I'm not feeling particularly sexy, because we all would. 255 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:09,500 And even if I'm not in a relationship or sexual 256 00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:15,340 partnership or whatever, one can forget that they are sexual beings, you know, 257 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:20,460 paying the gas and walking the dog and doing everyday stuff. 258 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,940 We participate usually in general on every level. 259 00:22:26,030 --> 00:22:28,070 Except we put sex on the back burner. 260 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:32,070 And I think it drives people crazy. 261 00:22:32,550 --> 00:22:34,130 It drives me crazy. 262 00:22:34,830 --> 00:22:40,070 A flood tide of filth is engulfing our country in the form of newsstand 263 00:22:40,070 --> 00:22:45,690 obscenity. It is threatening to pervert an entire generation of our American 264 00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:51,910 children. They constantly portray abnormal sexual behavior as being 265 00:22:52,150 --> 00:22:55,330 They glorify unnatural sex acts. 266 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,780 They tell youngsters that it's smart, it's thrilling, it provides kicks to be 267 00:23:00,780 --> 00:23:05,180 homosexual, a sadist, and every other kind of deviant. 268 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:11,860 But actually, these magazines not only display complete nudity, but they do so 269 00:23:11,860 --> 00:23:13,760 in a perverted manner. 270 00:23:14,540 --> 00:23:17,640 Such is this appeal to the sodomist. 271 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,420 Such is these shots, which are typical of the preoccupation with the female 272 00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:26,850 breast. to a point that it has become a fetish. 273 00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:31,890 And this one, with its overtones of bestiality. 274 00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:38,350 You want to go out, huh? 275 00:23:40,530 --> 00:23:44,950 I was talented. I was good in school. I never caused trouble. 276 00:23:45,170 --> 00:23:48,150 But my father was just mean to me. 277 00:23:49,170 --> 00:23:52,230 I realized that in therapy. I was like, what are you talking about? 278 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,840 Dad didn't adore you. He was horrible to you. 279 00:23:56,380 --> 00:24:00,560 And I think he showed more of that when I was a little girl because I was safe, 280 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,520 but not when I grew up. 281 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:10,900 It suddenly finally dawned on me that he didn't adore me because when I hit 282 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:14,520 my teens, he became very uncomfortable with my sister and I. 283 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,580 I think he was afraid of his own impulses. 284 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,280 He definitely showed inappropriate. 285 00:24:21,980 --> 00:24:22,980 interested in my sister. 286 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:28,200 First of all, I was actually rejected because the only affection anyone got 287 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,660 hers. And the message was that the only way you know someone really loves you is 288 00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:33,940 if they desire you sexually. 289 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:42,780 That's the most important thing for a young woman is to be sexually desirable. 290 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,960 And so it really directed my life from there on in. 291 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,260 I was looking for extra work. 292 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,580 I answered an ad for nude modeling. 293 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:09,240 Coffee, Mr. Weinman. And the agent asked me if I was interested in being in an 294 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:15,580 adult movie, and I was so insulted I stormed out of the office. And I told my 295 00:25:15,580 --> 00:25:19,860 boyfriend at the time, and also a friend, a girlfriend of mine, and they 296 00:25:19,860 --> 00:25:21,000 thought it was a great idea. 297 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:27,340 So I went to the film set, and I was very impressed. I had the same idea that 298 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:32,660 probably most people had, that it was very sleazy and, you know, have some 299 00:25:32,660 --> 00:25:33,720 guy behind the camera. 300 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,840 And there were those people, but that's not who I saw that day. And I decided to 301 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:39,840 give it a try. 302 00:25:40,460 --> 00:25:41,460 Actually, 303 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,939 it was not easy. 304 00:25:42,940 --> 00:25:44,000 I was shy. 305 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:47,280 It felt weird. But the money was great. 306 00:25:51,180 --> 00:25:56,280 I got into it in San Francisco, and I followed a boyfriend to L .A. who turned 307 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,280 out to be a real creep. 308 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:03,480 He was like a very cute Mick Jagger. He was really cute, but he was 309 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,480 into bad drugs, and he pulled me in for them. 310 00:26:10,140 --> 00:26:16,220 L .A. is about the worst place you could be as a lost young person, not knowing 311 00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:17,660 what they want to do with their lives. 312 00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:25,570 What began as just, you know, opening your mind up, trying new things, smoking 313 00:26:25,570 --> 00:26:31,050 little pot, taking a little acid, a little mescaline, eventually led to far 314 00:26:31,050 --> 00:26:32,770 dangerous drugs. 315 00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:39,290 And once you get on that train, it's hard to stop it. And I didn't have the 316 00:26:39,290 --> 00:26:42,290 resilience at the time and the confidence to keep going. 317 00:26:42,530 --> 00:26:44,830 And I think I just lost my way. 318 00:26:45,290 --> 00:26:47,850 Hey, you can just set that thing down anywhere. We got a... 319 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,940 Important thing to discuss, you know? Well, I just bet we do. 320 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:56,120 I was definitely suffering from some guilt and shame. 321 00:27:02,860 --> 00:27:06,440 You know, doing something that was so taboo, it's just not done. 322 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,560 Good women don't do this. 323 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,040 You know, I was a tainted woman. 324 00:27:12,540 --> 00:27:16,660 And I essentially closed the door to many things. 325 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,460 It was reckless, actually. 326 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:31,380 I just reached this sort of like rock bottom point where I was just completely 327 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:35,980 dissatisfied with who I had become, with where I was in my life. 328 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,640 And I couldn't really imagine a way forward. 329 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:49,340 Unless I change something, right? Unless I finally address it. 330 00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:56,500 I remember one night just like breaking down and I went to the 331 00:27:56,500 --> 00:28:03,240 drugstore and I like got some makeup and I went home and I put my makeup 332 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:09,580 on and I just like cried because I thought that it meant that I was going 333 00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:14,250 hell. I thought I had even more damned myself because I had already tried to 334 00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:16,210 it away once. I thought that I was weak. 335 00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:22,510 I thought that I was failing myself and failing God. 336 00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:29,250 Slowly, I started to realize what I had been put through. 337 00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:34,410 I started to realize the sort of brainwashing that had led me to view the 338 00:28:34,410 --> 00:28:37,110 in the way that I viewed the world, that had caused me to have the kind of 339 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:39,210 shameful feelings that I had. 340 00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:46,550 And slowly I sort of gained confidence to say, no, I'm not going to hell. 341 00:28:46,710 --> 00:28:49,450 In fact, I don't believe in hell. I don't believe in God. 342 00:28:50,110 --> 00:28:54,830 But I do believe that people should be able to be happy. And I don't believe in 343 00:28:54,830 --> 00:29:01,770 prescribing people's behavior, you know, in the service of ideology. 344 00:29:04,890 --> 00:29:07,770 This is Corey, part John R. 345 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:09,620 Kidding people. 346 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:18,060 Corey and I met in Bloomington, Indiana, at the Kinsey Institute for Research in 347 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:19,580 Sex, Gender, and Reproduction. 348 00:29:20,140 --> 00:29:26,100 And we met on a Wednesday, and we had sex for the first time on Thursday 349 00:29:26,660 --> 00:29:27,740 Who are you? 350 00:29:28,860 --> 00:29:30,580 Just a big boo in this world. 351 00:29:32,540 --> 00:29:34,440 I'm just a little boo in this world. 352 00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:39,280 The amazing thing about the sexual dynamics that I have with Corey is that 353 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:45,240 everything is just totally open and totally honest. And having a 354 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:51,620 about what we want to do sexually is as simple as having a conversation about 355 00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:52,940 where we want to go for dinner. 356 00:29:55,320 --> 00:30:00,800 There are a lot of barriers that used to be there for me in past relationships 357 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,500 that are not there anymore. 358 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,760 I was often sort of with heterosexual women who had been raised to think of 359 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:14,740 and intimacy in a very particular way that involved very particular acts and 360 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:18,320 very particular sequences of those acts. 361 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:26,440 And while some of them sort of felt inclined to 362 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:31,220 explore more adventurous territory, it was always under the guise of the 363 00:30:31,380 --> 00:30:32,720 right? It was just like... 364 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,880 Ooh, that would be an interesting thing to try, but we need to stay on this sort 365 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,460 of, like, main path of one very particular kind of intercourse. When you 366 00:30:45,460 --> 00:30:50,580 detach yourself from that world and from that worldview, so many other 367 00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:52,160 possibilities open up. 368 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:57,280 Yeah, this is too hot. They're not going to be able to show this on Canadian 369 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:58,280 public television. 370 00:31:16,140 --> 00:31:19,520 I guess a lot has happened since we first started corresponding on email. 371 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:27,100 The Indiegogo wrapped up a few days ago, and Corey and I made almost $11 372 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:31,940 ,000 to pay for my sex reassignment surgery. 373 00:31:33,940 --> 00:31:40,420 I didn't know that I wanted it when I started hormones, but after 374 00:31:40,620 --> 00:31:44,800 things got really tricky downstairs. 375 00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:52,160 Not in a physical way, right? I like still having great orgasms, having 376 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:53,520 orgasms than I was before. 377 00:31:54,240 --> 00:32:01,080 But my feelings about what's there 378 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,700 aesthetically have really shifted. 379 00:32:06,140 --> 00:32:07,620 Is there a good hairspray in it? 380 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:11,440 Oh, 381 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:13,139 this is recording? 382 00:32:13,140 --> 00:32:14,240 Mm -hmm. Damn. 383 00:32:15,500 --> 00:32:19,800 One of the most painful things for me to deal with is that I can't even look. 384 00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:26,360 I can't even look at what's going on or where Corey is touching me or how Corey 385 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:33,060 is touching me without feeling awful, without feeling just like sick. 386 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:40,080 It's been a really painful thing to navigate, right? Because while we have 387 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,820 incredible sex, there's still something being held back. 388 00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:49,100 because I'm still kind of, like, caught up on something. 389 00:32:50,180 --> 00:32:56,800 And it's hard to talk about this without kind of enshrining normative ways of 390 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,900 thinking about gender and genitals, right? 391 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:06,260 So I do have to preface this by saying it's all about individual preference, 392 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:11,560 it's all about meaning, and everyone can signify things in their own way. 393 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,740 Does my hair record better than it takes a picture? 394 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,520 It looks great, I think. 395 00:33:30,780 --> 00:33:37,500 I know it needs to happen, not 396 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,500 because it's something that trans people do, but because it's something that I 397 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,040 want. It's something that I deeply want. 398 00:33:55,630 --> 00:34:01,870 I look back at the last four years of my sexual journey from not enjoying sex to 399 00:34:01,870 --> 00:34:06,790 be voraciously having sex and wanting it. And that whole arc, 400 00:34:06,970 --> 00:34:13,530 I just followed my libido. I lived 401 00:34:13,530 --> 00:34:18,409 in my sexuality. I overcorrected and slept with anything that walked. 402 00:34:32,139 --> 00:34:37,060 I have a bit of a sense of humor, so when things go wrong or when I'm scared 403 00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:40,800 I'm in a dangerous situation, I tend to make light of it, you know. 404 00:34:41,739 --> 00:34:44,380 So I will have done these surprising things. 405 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,280 You would never, ever, ever do, and you would never want your children or your 406 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,280 best friends to do. 407 00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:53,380 I did, and can't believe I didn't. 408 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,560 I mean, I remember driving to this bar at 1 o 'clock in the morning. He was a 409 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,620 bartender there. He was closing up the bar, and he's like, that's the sex in 410 00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:04,880 bar. I've got a really huge dick. 411 00:35:05,420 --> 00:35:07,500 And I thought, well, I've never had a really huge dick. 412 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,760 Let's see what that's like. 413 00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:14,960 Well, let me just tell you, it's not everything it's cracked up to be. 414 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,740 A 12 -inch hard penis, bruised cervix. 415 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,920 Let's just say bruised cervix. Not fun. 416 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:26,340 And he was so proud of it. 417 00:35:26,819 --> 00:35:29,680 And it was just, you know, I was a little scared. I was a little 418 00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:33,140 And you just never know what you're getting. I mean, he, like, slapped me in 419 00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:34,140 middle of sex. 420 00:35:34,340 --> 00:35:36,980 Like, that was going to turn me on. Oh, gosh, no. 421 00:35:37,380 --> 00:35:38,380 I don't really like that. 422 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,380 My therapist said, you've been starving, and someone gave you a moldy, half 423 00:35:47,380 --> 00:35:51,420 -eaten, half -sandwich, and you're treating it like a gourmet meal. 424 00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:01,660 I wanted to have sex. I wanted to feel cherished. And I wanted someone to be 425 00:36:01,660 --> 00:36:05,300 attracted to me. I wanted to tear my clothes off. I mean, I don't see now. 426 00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:06,700 What's wrong with that? 427 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:13,020 How we judge ourselves is how we judge other people. 428 00:36:13,500 --> 00:36:16,560 So I was suppressing all of this sexuality. 429 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:22,220 When I would see other women expressing their sexuality, I'd be like, a slut. 430 00:36:24,590 --> 00:36:30,710 Because there's so much shame attached to women actively wanting it and 431 00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:35,450 making it a priority in their life, there aren't enough women who feel they 432 00:36:35,450 --> 00:36:40,210 the agency for their own pleasure to 433 00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:47,210 go forth and attract it or grab it and do 434 00:36:47,210 --> 00:36:49,590 it. It doesn't have to be like that. 435 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:27,120 We are going to Playboy Radio's In Bed with Jessica Drake. 436 00:37:27,740 --> 00:37:32,840 I wish I felt better physically at the moment because I'm getting over the 437 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,100 flu or whatever I have. 438 00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:39,260 But I'm excited. I like her. I like her a lot. Thanks for hanging around. 439 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,280 I'm Jessica Drake, and we are live in bed today here on Playboy Radio. 440 00:37:45,820 --> 00:37:48,240 Please welcome to the show Elle Chase. 441 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,620 She's a blogger, she's an author, she's a sex educator and a coach, and she is 442 00:37:53,620 --> 00:37:57,920 committed to empowering women, especially women over 40 and women with 443 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:02,040 -esteem and body image issues, to seek and untether their natural sensual 444 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:07,560 within without shame. Please welcome to the show, Elle Chase. Let's talk for a 445 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:13,460 minute about what a pivotal, defining moment may have been for you before you 446 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:15,260 became a sex educator. 447 00:38:17,580 --> 00:38:20,980 Blogs started getting popular and people started asking me questions. 448 00:38:21,580 --> 00:38:24,080 And I thought, why are they asking me a question? 449 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:26,340 I'm just posting pictures. Don't ask me. 450 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,740 Go ask somebody who's qualified. 451 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:33,660 I have over a decade in the adult industry and I too was being asked all 452 00:38:33,660 --> 00:38:37,500 those sex questions. And to me, that was a really pivotal moment when a woman 453 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,420 came to a signing that I was doing. 454 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:43,190 with her partner and tell me she wasn't having orgasms and they had been married 455 00:38:43,190 --> 00:38:49,030 for 15 years and he thought she was having orgasms and i knew that even 456 00:38:49,030 --> 00:38:52,690 a degree i could do something to help her when a woman tells me that she can't 457 00:38:52,690 --> 00:38:56,910 orgasm with a partner or when a woman tells me she's uncomfortable 458 00:38:56,910 --> 00:39:02,450 or uncomfortable doing anything i just tell her that she needs some She just 459 00:39:02,450 --> 00:39:07,110 needs to take time with herself and to nurture herself and be comfortable with 460 00:39:07,110 --> 00:39:09,610 herself first. And it translates into confidence. 461 00:39:10,170 --> 00:39:14,370 And then as soon as we're comfortable and confident in bed, that's when we 462 00:39:14,530 --> 00:39:16,390 right? Like that's when we learn new things. 463 00:39:17,390 --> 00:39:21,190 Your big, beautiful sex workshop. Yes. Tell me how that came about. 464 00:39:21,710 --> 00:39:24,650 Well, I'm a big girl and I have sex. 465 00:39:25,810 --> 00:39:31,530 Good. And I have friends and followers who are also people of size. 466 00:39:31,850 --> 00:39:35,050 And I would get asked questions about, wow, you know, I really want to do this 467 00:39:35,050 --> 00:39:39,770 or I really want to do that. And also, I really like that you will show, you 468 00:39:39,770 --> 00:39:44,190 know, porn or erotic photos of women of size that aren't, you know, fetishistic. 469 00:39:44,670 --> 00:39:47,130 There's nothing wrong with fetishizing as long as it's consensual and you're 470 00:39:47,130 --> 00:39:50,430 enjoying it too. I have no problem dating and I have no problem finding 471 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:53,450 to have sex with that I enjoy and enjoys me. 472 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:59,130 And I found that women out there just do not understand that. And it's not just 473 00:39:59,130 --> 00:40:01,370 about being overweight or plus size. 474 00:40:01,890 --> 00:40:02,890 Everyone's got something. 475 00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:08,250 Where can we see you next? I'm going to be at Kama Sutra Closet in Ventura. I 476 00:40:08,250 --> 00:40:10,750 love her. And I love being able to... 477 00:40:11,980 --> 00:40:15,140 To talk about something I'm so passionate about with someone else who's 478 00:40:15,140 --> 00:40:16,140 passionate about it. 479 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:21,580 She is a very good sex educator. I am becoming a good sex educator, I think. 480 00:40:21,580 --> 00:40:28,140 this world needs more of us and more of us that are not judgmental about things. 481 00:40:31,260 --> 00:40:36,640 All righty, you guys. 482 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,560 Who's hungry? 483 00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:43,060 Who's hungry? 484 00:40:47,020 --> 00:40:53,980 All right. I had to admit to myself at 485 00:40:53,980 --> 00:40:58,880 a certain point that I had a lot of conflict about it. 486 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,200 I think part of it was because the movies were just so shame -based. 487 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,160 They were shame -based. I mean, I think that porn looks the way it does because 488 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,700 it reflects our attitudes towards sex. 489 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:22,620 I know that 490 00:41:22,620 --> 00:41:26,460 one of the most intense fantasies for women is the rape fantasy. 491 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:34,500 My theory is that we are so afraid to lose control and to give up that control 492 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,440 that we end up... 493 00:41:36,810 --> 00:41:41,950 Unable to let go enough to really feel pleasure and to have an orgasm 494 00:41:41,950 --> 00:41:48,570 I Did have 495 00:41:48,570 --> 00:41:53,670 conflict when I was asked to do that That was very difficult for me. I wasn't 496 00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:59,570 happy about it I don't have a lot of memory about it, but I know that I was 497 00:41:59,570 --> 00:42:00,570 conflicted 498 00:42:07,660 --> 00:42:12,640 I had to really look at some very ugly feelings inside, you know, of feeling 499 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:19,240 ashamed and embarrassed. And I had to separate out how I really felt about the 500 00:42:19,240 --> 00:42:24,520 whole issue of performing sexually as opposed to what society tells me I'm 501 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,620 supposed to think about it. And that's a hard thing to do. 502 00:42:32,060 --> 00:42:35,860 I got out, and I really felt like I had to... 503 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:41,030 I had to look at this conflict, these feelings I was having, because I didn't 504 00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:43,450 want to drag a bunch of baggage behind me. 505 00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:49,150 And so I put myself into therapy. I found a woman who had actually been a 506 00:42:49,150 --> 00:42:50,970 worker at one time in her life. 507 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:53,030 I knew she wouldn't judge me. 508 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:56,130 And I got to work. I got to work on myself. 509 00:43:06,570 --> 00:43:13,510 came from reclaiming that really beautiful, pure, sensual aspect of 510 00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:14,510 my sexuality. 511 00:43:15,210 --> 00:43:21,030 So I felt that there was nothing wrong with the concept of people performing 512 00:43:21,030 --> 00:43:26,230 people watching, if it was all consensual, but that pornography lacked 513 00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:29,090 anything really positive and beautiful. 514 00:43:30,010 --> 00:43:35,490 I started to think about, you know, gee, what would it be like to create movies? 515 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,480 that have a woman's voice. 516 00:43:37,820 --> 00:43:40,560 You would have seen some productions up here. 517 00:43:41,540 --> 00:43:48,400 And it was, what was it? It was 11... I realized that Candida Royale wasn't 518 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,178 going away. 519 00:43:49,180 --> 00:43:54,760 My name was getting bigger than ever again. There was a resurgence of my work 520 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,700 because now it was coming out on video and cable TV. 521 00:43:58,860 --> 00:44:02,540 I just decided, you know what? I think I would like to take a stand at it. I'm 522 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:03,519 the perfect person. 523 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,360 I already have a scar letter on me. 524 00:44:10,860 --> 00:44:14,460 Our next guest is a true veteran of the adult film industry who set out to 525 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,220 produce movies specifically geared toward a woman's enjoyment. 526 00:44:17,580 --> 00:44:20,640 Let's welcome Candida Royale. Candida, great to have you here. 527 00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:22,480 You are a true pioneer. 528 00:44:23,370 --> 00:44:26,410 Because you, what year did you start your company? 1984. 529 00:44:26,970 --> 00:44:31,150 1984, and the films that they were making back then were not geared towards 530 00:44:31,150 --> 00:44:32,410 women, really, predominantly. 531 00:44:32,850 --> 00:44:34,670 You know, I try to make real -life situations. 532 00:44:34,930 --> 00:44:39,510 The sex is more sensual. It's not as hardcore. I don't have the typical money 533 00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:44,590 shot. It was ironic because what was really meant to just put closure to 534 00:44:44,590 --> 00:44:45,590 Royale. 535 00:44:45,770 --> 00:44:49,650 opened up this whole Pandora's box. Thank you. I'm sorry, what's going on? 536 00:44:49,870 --> 00:44:51,410 Yes, Venus, what's the problem? 537 00:44:51,630 --> 00:44:56,470 I'm sorry. What gives you the right to say what women really want? Because 538 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:59,510 that's what you want? Well, what gives you the right to say what women don't 539 00:44:59,510 --> 00:45:00,510 want? 540 00:45:01,750 --> 00:45:08,690 I mean... Venus, with all due respect. Sure, I 541 00:45:08,690 --> 00:45:12,950 don't believe that when we have a society... 542 00:45:14,190 --> 00:45:19,710 Have a shame based thing like pornography and it is shameful but to a 543 00:45:19,710 --> 00:45:23,510 people it isn't shameful Oh, it is the woman that came out here. They don't 544 00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:27,690 their children to it Excuse me if it's not thankful. Why can't their children 545 00:45:27,690 --> 00:45:28,690 come? 546 00:45:32,670 --> 00:45:38,270 I Think I think first of all what gives me the right is that it's a free country 547 00:45:38,970 --> 00:45:40,710 And we have the right to express ourselves. 548 00:45:40,930 --> 00:45:42,310 It's part of our Constitution. 549 00:45:42,650 --> 00:45:47,470 And if you don't want to view it, you don't have to. It's not forced on you. 550 00:45:47,470 --> 00:45:49,870 I ended up deciding I'm not going anywhere. 551 00:45:50,430 --> 00:45:56,510 I'm going to go right back in there and start doing something that speaks to 552 00:45:56,510 --> 00:46:01,450 women, speaks to men, speaks to all of us, and helps us navigate this really 553 00:46:01,450 --> 00:46:03,310 messed up sense of ourselves. 554 00:46:11,690 --> 00:46:16,570 And that was it. We did our first movie, Femme, in April. 555 00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:20,770 And we did the second two in the summer. 556 00:46:21,970 --> 00:46:27,690 What was so much fun was when I would meet people, go to a party or an event 557 00:46:27,690 --> 00:46:32,170 something. Men had more problem with it than women. Men would get a little 558 00:46:32,170 --> 00:46:36,570 flustered, a little intimidated by it all. But women, you know, they would 559 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:37,630 so what do you do? 560 00:46:38,050 --> 00:46:40,650 And I would take a deep breath and then finally say. 561 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,300 I make erotic adult movies from a woman's point of view. 562 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,960 And their faces would light up. Where can I find it? I've been wanting 563 00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:56,220 like that. Women would say things like, oh, my gosh, after 10 years of marriage 564 00:46:56,220 --> 00:47:02,400 and three kids, you know, I can't tell you how wonderful it is, how much you've 565 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,020 helped our marriage. Men would write and say, thank you, thank you, thank you. 566 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,600 I'm insulted that everyone assumes all men like the porn that's out there. 567 00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:20,110 I was one of the only women of my generation to have the 568 00:47:20,110 --> 00:47:23,770 whatever it took to come together and make this happen. 569 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:47,680 Having a vagina means being able to receive something, 570 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:54,120 right? To receive something in a way that aesthetically and 571 00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:57,940 mechanically lines up with my experience of my own sexuality. 572 00:48:11,660 --> 00:48:18,560 400 maxi pads are you happy i got you that the surgery 573 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:23,740 is becoming real to me in a way that it hasn't yet right it's getting really 574 00:48:23,740 --> 00:48:30,440 close you're so cute it is really scary and that i have no idea what it's gonna 575 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:35,500 be like you know like i'm just gonna 576 00:48:36,220 --> 00:48:41,800 wake up and have a completely nosed head of genitals that i've never touched or 577 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:47,860 handled before and i will have no idea how it works and like no amount of 578 00:48:47,860 --> 00:48:54,320 reading like no amount of reading anatomy or like physiology textbooks is 579 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,960 to help me like understand i actually really like it i'll wear this to dallas 580 00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,660 okay i'll wear this to dallas 581 00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:05,860 Maybe we won't be killed. 582 00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:10,560 Yeah, no, seriously, if I look like a fucking country bitch and you just look 583 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,560 like a queer younger sister or something, like, what are you excited 584 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:18,520 Okay. 585 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:25,320 I don't, like, well, I'm also excited for you to be happy and, like, feel more 586 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:32,260 comfortable and it does, it's not, you know, that much fun 587 00:49:32,260 --> 00:49:33,300 to, like, watch you. 588 00:49:33,820 --> 00:49:40,460 be unhappy that your parents are like clothing and like no matter what 589 00:49:40,460 --> 00:49:46,980 context it's in and this is just one avenue to make that to improve that this 590 00:49:46,980 --> 00:49:48,000 us getting ready to go 591 00:50:09,770 --> 00:50:15,490 I might not have known the whole time that I had to transition, but I 592 00:50:15,490 --> 00:50:22,190 knew that there was something big that I was deferring, that I was 593 00:50:22,190 --> 00:50:24,850 scared of, that I was running away from. 594 00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:31,670 I knew that I wouldn't be comfortable for my entire life just wearing a dress 595 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:32,670 the floor. 596 00:50:35,570 --> 00:50:36,970 But out of fear, 597 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:45,900 laziness even, I really put off answering that question 598 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:52,820 for myself and really kind of diving deep into 599 00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:55,680 my desires and figuring out what needed to happen. 600 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:29,680 Well, 601 00:51:34,620 --> 00:51:37,820 what's surprising, one of the things that's surprising about the surgery is 602 00:51:37,820 --> 00:51:40,340 it hurts less than people imagine. 603 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,940 Almost uniformly. 604 00:51:45,630 --> 00:51:47,430 The potential space is there in everyone. 605 00:51:47,650 --> 00:51:49,390 Remember, everyone starts out female. 606 00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:54,230 They're all there. This isn't like we're inventing something that's preposterous 607 00:51:54,230 --> 00:51:59,790 or, you know, we're putting a new, you know, we're not putting a new leg on a 608 00:51:59,790 --> 00:52:00,790 donkey or something. 609 00:52:01,250 --> 00:52:05,230 This is a space that was already there. 610 00:52:05,770 --> 00:52:12,690 So we're just lining it and developing it, as would happen if you were. 611 00:52:13,250 --> 00:52:18,210 meant to remain female. All right. I am going to listen to you first. 612 00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:33,740 These surgeries are so important to people that you want to take each one as 613 00:53:33,740 --> 00:53:35,060 individual as possible. 614 00:53:55,850 --> 00:54:01,270 Well, the way my parents found out that I was in movies way back years ago was 615 00:54:01,270 --> 00:54:02,490 really pretty horrible. 616 00:54:04,810 --> 00:54:11,170 I then did call my mother and she was amazing. She said, well, 617 00:54:11,210 --> 00:54:17,130 you're still my daughter. I still love you. That I just, I can't imagine my 618 00:54:17,130 --> 00:54:18,310 little candy doing that. 619 00:54:19,270 --> 00:54:23,150 And she said, in a way I envy you because it sounds like you worked out 620 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:24,150 issues with men. 621 00:54:26,190 --> 00:54:29,770 So that was pretty amazing. And the truth is that my mother really grew to 622 00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:34,350 respect the business I started and how successful I made my life. 623 00:54:35,050 --> 00:54:40,990 And my father, when, you know, when we spoke of it, I said, gee, Dad, I feel 624 00:54:40,990 --> 00:54:42,950 kind of strange talking about this with you. 625 00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:48,290 You know, sex and all that. And he said, you know, with all the things people 626 00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:54,170 do, politicians lie, they cheat people, people kill each other, they're cruel to 627 00:54:54,170 --> 00:54:55,149 each other. 628 00:54:55,150 --> 00:54:57,590 All you're doing is bringing pleasure to people's lives. 629 00:54:57,970 --> 00:55:00,290 You have nothing to feel ashamed of. 630 00:55:06,810 --> 00:55:13,650 It validated me in 631 00:55:13,650 --> 00:55:14,650 his eyes. 632 00:55:16,930 --> 00:55:22,910 And made me feel less ashamed for sure in his eyes. 633 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,960 I'm going to talk to you about three things to pick up your app. 634 00:55:36,260 --> 00:55:38,980 I'm a big fan of Jimmy Jane, and I'll tell you why. 635 00:55:43,140 --> 00:55:50,040 I can't 636 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,500 imagine having gone through life being the way I was. 637 00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,000 No passion. 638 00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:00,340 No romantic love. No, none of that. 639 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:02,780 and no sensuality. 640 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,300 How often do you come here? 641 00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:13,180 I like to come here at least once every month or six weeks or something. I want 642 00:56:13,180 --> 00:56:16,720 to see what's new. This is the Rebel I was telling you about. They actually 643 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:20,880 devised a brand -new motor. They invented a brand -new motor, and it's 644 00:56:20,980 --> 00:56:24,560 like the sonic toothbrushes. You're supposed to glide it on your clit. 645 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,560 This thing's great, too. I love this EV. 646 00:56:29,290 --> 00:56:33,290 And it kind of also looks like a Starship Enterprise. I do have one of 647 00:56:33,290 --> 00:56:36,050 actually wear it and drive with it. 648 00:56:36,930 --> 00:56:38,330 I mean, look how fast it goes. 649 00:56:38,890 --> 00:56:40,290 People go nuts for this. 650 00:56:40,530 --> 00:56:43,670 This Jimmy Jane clitoral vibe that looks like a tooth. 651 00:56:45,090 --> 00:56:46,370 It's fucking fantastic. 652 00:56:47,470 --> 00:56:52,530 The great thing about this is, for me, it was the perfect rabbit. 653 00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:56,370 Your sexuality does not have to be tied into your body image. 654 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,920 There's lots of literature out there, but there's no literature saying that 655 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,300 can have bad body image and still find yourself sexy. 656 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,720 People have squirted for the first time on this. 657 00:57:08,740 --> 00:57:11,980 Oddly, this didn't make me squirt, but I did squirt for the first time a couple 658 00:57:11,980 --> 00:57:14,460 weeks ago, which is kind of news. 659 00:57:14,860 --> 00:57:16,080 I know I didn't tell you, did I? 660 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,360 Let's talk about dildos, shall we? This one's my favorite. 661 00:57:20,740 --> 00:57:26,120 These things are sex lifesavers. You don't have to hold up your arms while 662 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:27,120 you're... 663 00:57:28,580 --> 00:57:34,720 It's about the flaws that we think we have 664 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:41,520 and how much we think they matter really impedes our enjoyment of not 665 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,140 just sex, but just of life. 666 00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:47,660 I know what I want. 667 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,620 I know I can look back and see what I've accomplished. 668 00:57:54,060 --> 00:57:55,840 I can see mistakes I've made. 669 00:57:56,650 --> 00:58:02,330 And I can see the whole journey from beginning to middle. 670 00:58:04,070 --> 00:58:10,150 And I just think, I think that I'm at a beginning of another chapter. 671 00:58:13,490 --> 00:58:18,830 I have more shame at this point, more embarrassment talking about loneliness 672 00:58:18,830 --> 00:58:21,550 than talking about sex. 673 00:58:22,510 --> 00:58:24,570 I'll tell you the temperature of my vagina. 674 00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:31,440 But to tell you that I'm lonely feels very much like 675 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:38,280 when I wanted sex. I wanted to feel that sexuality 676 00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:44,960 so badly and wanted to have that guy just come over and felt 677 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,800 I would slut shame myself, basically. 678 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,240 It's the same sort of shame. 679 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,560 Because I think that it's worse to be lonely. 680 00:58:55,240 --> 00:59:01,860 and admit that you're lonely than it is to admit that you're sexual in 681 00:59:01,860 --> 00:59:02,860 society's eyes. 682 00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,660 And it scares me to say to people I'm lonely. 683 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:09,700 It scares me to tell you that I'm lonely. 684 00:59:10,340 --> 00:59:15,040 Because there's a certain amount of vulnerability, and when you're 685 00:59:15,140 --> 00:59:19,220 you're open to having your feelings hurt in whatever way. 686 00:59:19,700 --> 00:59:23,280 And, you know, I don't know who's going to be watching this when this comes out. 687 00:59:23,950 --> 00:59:29,310 You know, I don't know if I'll be in the middle of a relationship or if I'll 688 00:59:29,310 --> 00:59:33,850 just have my second date with someone and just go, oh, you know, talking about 689 00:59:33,850 --> 00:59:36,690 loneliness on the fucking documentary. Hi. 690 00:59:37,330 --> 00:59:41,450 So, but I am. 691 00:59:42,310 --> 00:59:49,310 But the loneliness, at least the loneliness now, it's not half as lonely 692 00:59:49,310 --> 00:59:51,190 as I was when I was married. 693 01:00:06,380 --> 01:00:10,820 I'm sad Corey can't be here. Corey's sad she can't be here, but she's got stuff 694 01:00:10,820 --> 01:00:14,140 to take care of. Yeah, she was cute before she left. 695 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:20,080 She came over and she was like, can I just look? 696 01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:23,760 And I was like, you can't see anything. The dressing is going to be on there for 697 01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:28,040 another day. And she just stood up here and held the ice pack up and was just 698 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:29,040 like, wow. 699 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:32,640 How do you feel? 700 01:00:32,740 --> 01:00:34,800 I feel incredible. I feel great. 701 01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:41,080 I just feel elated, too elated to be in this bed, and I'll be able to get out of 702 01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:41,658 it tomorrow. 703 01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:45,680 But, yeah, I'm just, like, incredibly happy. 704 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:52,940 It doesn't feel strange or different so much that it feels like I feel at home. 705 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:57,720 You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't feel like, oh, my God, it's gone. It 706 01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:02,340 feels like, oh, finally, this feels like I've, like, wanted it to feel for a 707 01:01:02,340 --> 01:01:03,340 long time. 708 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:09,460 There's a lot of work and healing to do between now and, like, actually making 709 01:01:09,460 --> 01:01:14,760 use of it in a sexual way. But, like, the immediate just, like, psychological 710 01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:19,860 benefits are so, like, overwhelming that I don't even care that it's, you know, 711 01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:23,680 covered in blood and ice and gauze and stuff. 712 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,920 I just care that it's there. 713 01:01:45,290 --> 01:01:50,870 Up until now, like, figuring out my sexuality has felt like something that 714 01:01:50,870 --> 01:01:57,590 had to do in the dark, you know? And I'm just... I'm just kind of 715 01:01:57,590 --> 01:02:03,810 overwhelmed that I don't have to do that anymore, you know? 716 01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:10,530 That I have a partner determined to show me how things work and 717 01:02:10,530 --> 01:02:14,030 who's ready to figure out what this means for us. 718 01:02:15,980 --> 01:02:21,180 who's going to be there to help me, like, readjust and that kind of thing. 719 01:02:21,180 --> 01:02:27,820 just, like, such a different experience from growing up as, like, a closeted 720 01:02:27,820 --> 01:02:32,680 transgender kid not having any idea what's going on with you, your body, 721 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:37,320 understanding of yourself, or, like, how you want to be with other people to 722 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,900 being in this, like, incredibly, like... 723 01:02:40,540 --> 01:02:47,040 loving and supportive network of people who help each other and help you figure 724 01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,040 yourself out. 725 01:02:50,060 --> 01:02:53,880 I'm just glad I'm not taking any more tips in the dark. 726 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,350 It's really hard for me to say what's next because I've been hit with probably 727 01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:12,050 the biggest challenge of my life. 728 01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:16,710 Three years ago, I was diagnosed with stage 3 ovarian cancer. 729 01:03:18,670 --> 01:03:25,210 On the light side, it's pretty ironic that my whole adult 730 01:03:25,210 --> 01:03:31,790 career seems to have been around sex and eros, and here I get 731 01:03:31,790 --> 01:03:37,710 an illness that's all around hormones that... 732 01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,440 you know, we produce in order to have sex. 733 01:03:40,820 --> 01:03:46,220 It's been very traumatic, and it certainly gives you a sense of urgency. 734 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,580 I've taken great care of myself. 735 01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:58,260 I'm in really good shape, and I fully intended to have a very rich 736 01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:03,060 stage three, chapter three. I don't want that robbed from me. 737 01:04:06,250 --> 01:04:10,370 They removed everything that was at all hormone -producing. 738 01:04:11,650 --> 01:04:14,170 I don't have much sexuality anymore. 739 01:04:14,790 --> 01:04:17,230 I really don't have sexuality left. 740 01:04:19,350 --> 01:04:20,850 It's very sad. 741 01:04:22,530 --> 01:04:27,550 And it's a dilemma for women in my situation that they really don't know 742 01:04:27,550 --> 01:04:28,550 do for. 743 01:04:29,950 --> 01:04:35,270 Even your ability to conjure up fantasies and desire is so... 744 01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:40,500 Driven by the chemicals in your body the hormone so that without those hormones 745 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:44,840 I don't really it's hard to even come up with the old fantasies 746 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:58,780 I 747 01:04:58,780 --> 01:05:05,220 Loved that I loved that I had such great sex and I I went 748 01:05:05,530 --> 01:05:12,010 all the way from the continuum of just touching, all the way to just 749 01:05:12,010 --> 01:05:15,450 fucking, really fuck me hard. 750 01:05:15,850 --> 01:05:20,770 Fuck me, fuck me hard. Just do me, pound me. 751 01:05:21,330 --> 01:05:23,870 You know, all the way, the whole continuum. 752 01:05:24,450 --> 01:05:26,310 And it was just delicious. 753 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,020 I think it's important for women to have the freedom to explore their sexuality 754 01:05:41,020 --> 01:05:46,660 because it's part of who we are. It's part of what makes us who we are. 755 01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:53,580 If we're all repressed over on this other side, I don't believe that we can 756 01:05:53,580 --> 01:05:59,840 burst forth and be this confident, creative, 757 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:05,920 expressive person just in one area of our lives, but not over here. 758 01:06:06,410 --> 01:06:07,410 Put that away. 759 01:06:08,110 --> 01:06:12,110 The more you try to repress something because you're ashamed of it, the bigger 760 01:06:12,110 --> 01:06:13,330 and more powerful it gets. 67049

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