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I'm Martha Parker, Mr. Slade. Oh, of
course. Come in.
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It was good of you to see me so late and
on such short notice.
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I really had nothing to learn, Mr.
Slade. Just a quiet night at home.
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You said on the phone you wanted to talk
to me about, uh, murder.
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Where should we talk about it? Uh, over
here on the couch?
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The couch will be fine.
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May I offer you something?
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Um...
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classified one would be lovely. Thank
you.
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As I told you, my radio station is doing
a feature on what the police are
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calling the Northside Stabber.
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A most graphic description.
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Fifteen victims so far.
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Yes, fifteen.
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What I'm doing is interviewing a number
of criminal attorneys.
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Ah, you must understand, I no longer
practice criminal law.
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Oh, I understand. But up until, what was
it, five, six years ago?
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You were probably the most famous
practicing criminal attorney in the
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Or infamous.
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I'm curious.
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Why did you give up criminal law?
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Money.
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By that I mean I discovered I had a
certain flair for his management.
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And because of the success of my own
investments, others turned to me to
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theirs.
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My current practice is neither as
flamboyant nor as newsworthy as it used
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but it's far more profitable.
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And you don't miss it?
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Criminal law?
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Not in the slightest.
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I'd like to ask you a couple of
questions I'm asking the other attorney.
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Testing, one, two, three, testing.
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Testing, one, two, three, testing.
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Testing, one, two, three, testing.
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Testing.
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Hey, Miss Slade, take one.
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Mr. Slade, as a man who was once the
state's most famous criminal lawyer...
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What advice would you give to the person
the police are calling the Northside
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Stabber? If he happens to be listening,
I would advise him to turn himself in
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and get himself a good attorney.
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Given the current hysteria, would you
really say that he or she would be given
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fair trial?
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Well, the better the lawyer, the fairer
the trial.
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Aren't you saying there are two kinds of
justice, then?
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One for the poor and one for the rich
who can afford to hire expensive
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Well, that should hardly come as a shock
to anyone.
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Of course, I've always believed that
most murderers are never caught.
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Never? That's right. Never.
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Have you any statistics to back that up?
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What I have is years of experience.
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See, the murderers who are never caught
are those whose victims are never found.
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Literally thousands and thousands of
people in this country disappear every
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year. They simply vanish.
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And you're saying that some or most of
those missing persons are actually
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victims?
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I'm saying it's a real possibility.
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Thank you, Mr. Amos Slade.
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End of Slade, interview tape one.
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That's a pretty chilling conclusion that
most murderers never caught.
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Chilling, but inescapable.
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If what you say is true...
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Then walking around out there are
literally thousands and thousands of
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murderers. On your way home, keep your
car door locked.
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Thanks for the counsel.
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And for the interview.
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For my pleasure.
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Thank you.
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John Slade I Thought I recognized that
fancy car guys trouble
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flats Come on get in I'll give
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you a lift home.
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Okay
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Probably kids.
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Probably.
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What brings you out so late?
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Same as you, visiting a lady.
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That was Vicki Walters' house back then,
wasn't it?
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I didn't know you knew Vicki.
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No, no, I knew her husband.
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Or rather, her ex -husband.
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You know, it's funny us bumping into
each other like this.
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I was going to call you tomorrow morning
anyway.
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Oh?
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What about?
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The Cagle Trust.
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I'm going to need a little more time
before I can transfer it over to you.
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What do you mean by a little more time?
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You've already had a three -month
extension.
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Well, I'm going to need another three
months.
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I'm sorry, but it's just not going to be
possible.
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John, I really need those three months.
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You know, there have been some rumors
floating around.
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Hmm? What kind of rumors?
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Ugly rumors.
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About you.
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They say you went way short on Brixton
Industries and took a bath.
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A real bath.
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I'd hate to think that has anything to
do with the Cagle Trust.
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Look, John, I can work the whole thing
out if you just let me have those extra
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three months.
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That's what they always say every time.
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I can work it out.
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John, I need those three months.
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I've got to have them.
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From an ethical point of view, this
conversation has gone far enough. Just
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over and let me out. I'll walk from
here.
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No chance.
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Just tell me one thing.
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How deep are you in, really?
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Three million.
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Most murderers are never caught.
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Never? That's right.
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Never. Have you any statistics to back
that up?
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What I have is years of experience.
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See, the murderers who are never caught
are those whose victims are never found.
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Literally thousands and thousands of
people in this country disappear every
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year.
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They simply vanish.
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Thank you, Mr. Amos Slade.
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Howdy. Hello.
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Saw your car and thought I'd stop and
ask directions.
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Guess I'm kind of lost.
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You a fisherman?
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No, I was just about to give my dog a
run along the beach.
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Well, me and the wife and the kid have
been driving all night and we're looking
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for a place to camp.
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Well, like I said, we've been driving
all night. No, thanks.
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Looking for a place to camp.
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I guess I took the wrong turn somewhere.
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Well, you go back up the highway, and
it's about half a mile.
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Half a mile, you say?
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Yeah, it'll be on your left.
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Get there just about done.
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Get a little surf chance in if I'm not
too tuckered.
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Did you say you got a dog over there?
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That's right.
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Awful quiet.
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What kind is he?
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He's a test pig retriever.
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No kidding.
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They sure like the water, don't they?
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I was thinking about buying one, but
they're just so doggone expensive.
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Mind if I take a look at him? I really
prefer you didn't bother him.
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He's, uh... Well, he's not too friendly.
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That's why we come here so early when
there are no other people around.
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Sure. I understand.
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Don't blame him.
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Maybe so much time course
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Just up the road half a
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mile on the left that it that's it
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Thanks for the direction
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Thank you.
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Ah!
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Bye.
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That fella must be around here
somewhere. There's this car up on the
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I'd like to take it.
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get a picture of
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