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Thank you.
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So old Mark here just all of a sudden
looks up at me and says, Walnut Grove
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Textiles. Next thing I know, we're
buying half a million shares at 13 and a
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quarter. 13 and three -eight. I almost
had him committed.
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I mean, who the hell's even heard of
Walnut Grove Textiles?
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But one week later, guess who gets
bought out by Value Right?
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Tripled our money. Just like that.
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Guy's a genius.
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Or maybe he just has access to the right
information.
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There's no need to break the law to be a
player in this business.
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The information's out there. Who's
making money, who's losing money, who's
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smart, who's on the meat.
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You just have to know how to digest it.
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Actually, it's those glasses he wears.
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They make it so he can read between the
lines.
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Don't they, Mark?
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Tell you what, let's trade your glasses
for my wife's here.
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It's my wife, Cameron Cooper.
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Sorry about that, John.
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Now, what did I do with my wife?
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I believe you divorced her.
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Oh, so I did. In that case, quick, will
you marry me? I'll buy you your very own
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company. You like insurance?
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I'll buy you this guy's company,
Ashfield Light.
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It's doing very well. I know.
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He's my husband.
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I need another drink.
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What was that?
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John throws a heck of a party, doesn't
he? Mm -hmm. Anything look interesting?
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Stuffed mushrooms look good.
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So does Asheville's life.
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All kidding aside.
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So, when are you going to make me a rich
man?
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As soon as I'm sure I'll wind up even
richer.
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Thank you.
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Oh, God, he's dead, isn't he?
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Well, they're doing everything they can,
sir.
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Now, why don't you tell me what happened
here? I don't know what happened. I was
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just driving along. Next thing I knew,
he was right in front of me.
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Sir, have you been drinking?
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A glass of champagne, maybe two, that's
all.
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Okay, I have to ask you to step over
here with me, please.
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Now...
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I need you to stand with your feet
together and close your eyes.
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Come on, I'm not drunk.
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Sir, are you refusing to cooperate?
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Now, tilt your head back, place your
arms out to the side, and with your
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forefinger, reach out and touch the tip
of your nose. Can you do that for me?
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My client may have had some champagne
before he got behind the wheel of his
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that night, Your Honor.
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And tragically, he may have struck and
killed someone on his way home.
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But I'm going to show you in the course
of these proceedings that those two
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facts are not necessarily related.
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I'm going to show you that the charge of
vehicular homicide is unwarranted, that
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Mr. Ivers does not deserve to go to
jail, for I am going to show that
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that poor man was something no one,
drunk or sober, could have avoided.
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That man died not because my client had
been drinking, but because he had the
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misfortune of wandering out onto a dark,
winding road and being struck by a car
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that any one of us here could have been
driving.
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Thank you, Your Honor.
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Thank you, Mr. Browning. Is the state
ready to call its first witness?
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Yes, Your Honor. Call Sergeant Travis
Farrow to the stand.
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Goodbye, my Coney Island baby.
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Farewell, my own true love, true.
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Not bad, huh?
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Of course I got it. It's upstairs in my
closet.
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Yeah. Okay.
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Count me in.
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All right. I'll see you then.
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Who was that?
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That's an old friend from school. He's
drumming up some people to come to our
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class reunion.
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40th. Oh, what was all that going on,
baby? I used to be a member of a
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barbershop quartet. Yeah?
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Yeah. Yeah. It was me and Gus and George
and Chuck.
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Fairview Fairtones.
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Fairview was the name of our dormitory.
Oh.
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Are they all coming to the reunion?
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Yeah. Yeah, we're going to wear the
outfits we used to wear and everything.
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That's great.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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You know, we have to have this filed by
5 o 'clock.
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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Where were we?
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Well, we were trying to figure out if we
want a jury trial or a bench trial.
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Yeah.
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Ben.
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Ben?
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Be right back.
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Thank you
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Do you have a moment? I need to talk to
you. You alone?
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Well, Ben's upstairs.
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Oh, then let's talk out here.
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All right.
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Hey, that's some great pressure getting
on the Cameron Ivers case.
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Yeah. Listen, I've got a problem.
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What's up?
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I'm being blackmailed.
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You see, I met this woman recently, and,
well, she and I have gotten real close
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real fast.
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Oh, Craig, I thought you were happily
married.
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Well, I thought so, too, but then I met
Rachel, and Cliff, it's like I
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never had sex before. I mean, with her,
it's just incredible.
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The more I'm with her, the more I want
to be with her. I mean, it's like I'm
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addicted, you know what I mean?
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No, not really, but...
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Go, go ahead. Well, anyway, I thought we
were being discreet, but yesterday I
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got some rather graphic photos of us
along with a note saying the news media
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would get copies next if I didn't do as
I was told.
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Cliff, my wife is running for her state
assembly seat.
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This kind of publicity could ruin her. I
mean, I may not love her, but I
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certainly don't want to hurt her. She's
a good person.
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Well, how much does a blackmailer want?
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I don't know yet. I'm supposed to meet
with them this afternoon at Kelbo's bar.
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I need a favor.
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No, no. On second thought, Cliff, I'm
going to do this right. I want to hire
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you. What for?
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Go to Cowboys in my place.
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You want me to meet with the
blackmailer? Well, I can't meet with him
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public place like that. Everybody knows
me.
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Geez, Craig, I don't know. I mean, it's
really weird, you know? Cliff, I don't
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have anyone else to ask.
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Now, this is a really delicate
situation.
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I have to have someone I can trust.
Yeah.
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But... I don't want you to do it if it
makes you feel uncomfortable.
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I'll figure out something else. Thanks
anyway.
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Hold on.
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How am I supposed to recognize the guy?
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He'll be sitting at a table by himself
with a pin in his lapel. The American
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flag.
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Thanks, Cliff.
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Waiting for Craig Browning, right?
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Who the hell are you?
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Cliff Lewis.
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Sent me in his place.
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He shouldn't have done that.
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Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry. I'm not a cop or anything.
I'm Craig's lawyer.
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I just didn't want to risk being seen in
public with you, that's all.
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So, how much do you want?
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Oh, I don't want money.
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I want Cameron Ivers to go to prison.
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Cameron, his client, Ivers. That's
right.
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I want Craig Browning to throw the case.
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Cameron Ivers goes to prison, and I tear
up the negatives of those pictures, and
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everybody's happy.
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Ivers walks, and I send those pictures
to the press, and they have a field day.
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So all Browning's got to do to win is to
lose.
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It's that simple.
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Tell him, Mr.
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Lawyer.
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Thank you.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's Cliff Lewis. I want to
talk to you. Cliff Lewis,
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I'm not leaving here until I talk to
you.
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Let me guess.
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You want your hankering.
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No, I came here to make a deal. You got
pictures? I got pictures. I got pictures
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of you and two guys.
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Their names are John Robinson and Mark
Reeves. Does that ring a bell?
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Who? Who? The two guys who put you out
to this. You don't know what you're
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talking about.
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Well, you take Craig Browning down. I'll
take you all down. Is that understood,
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Mr. Astin? My, my, how clever you are.
You know my name and where I'm staying.
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But I wonder how clever Craig Browning
will think you are when his picture
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appears in all those papers.
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Now, get out.
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Hey, Ben.
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Yeah? Got some donuts.
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Blazed or jelly filled?
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You eat them.
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Hey, when's the reunion?
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Uh, 23rd. Uh, getting excited?
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Can't wait.
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Oh, great.
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Blazed or jelly filled?
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Is that all you're having?
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Yeah.
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What are you on, some kind of diet or
something?
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I look like I need to be on a diet.
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No, no, no. I, uh, um, just, you know.
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was asking, I'll get that.
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Norman! Hello, Cliff.
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Hi, hi.
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What can I do for you?
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I'm investigating the murder of a
private investigator from Savannah.
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Recognize him?
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I can't tell you that.
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Why not?
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I can't tell you that either.
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Well, I know him.
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Morning, Ben. What's going on?
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I made it to the hotel where this man
was staying, saw somebody pounding on
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door to his room last night about an
hour before she found him dead.
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Heard the guy say his name was Cliff or
Clark or something. So when we found
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Cliff's business card in one of the dead
man's pockets, we naturally thought
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we'd check it out.
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You fit the description she gave of the
guy to a T.
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I'm sorry.
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I can't say anything more about any of
this. I really am sorry, Norm.
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There will be a next time.
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Right.
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Sorry for the waste of trip.
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What's going on?
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Ben, I'm so sorry. I can't tell you
about this either. I... I gotta go.
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Hi. Who was that? We got some work to
do.
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Bye.
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What I'm trying to say is we're going to
have to cool it for a little while.
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You mean I'll see each other? Just for a
couple of weeks.
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Why? A few complications have arisen,
that's all.
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What complications?
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What happened? Rachel, believe me, I
want to see you.
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As soon as things calm down, I'll call
you. I promise.
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Craig, I love you.
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I want us to be together.
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I gotta be in court.
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Three weeks tops.
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I swear.
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Okay.
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What's the lighting like on the road
where the accident occurred?
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There is no lighting.
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So if a person was driving along that
road at 11 .15 at night, how easy would
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be to see something outside the beam of
his or her headlights?
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It wouldn't be easy, but it'd be even
harder if that person was speeding.
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Are you suggesting that my client was
speeding that night?
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Well, from the length of the skid marks,
the damage done to the car, and the
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injury sustained by the victim, we
estimate he was doing 50 miles an hour.
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Posted speed limit's 35.
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You estimate.
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You mean it's possible Mr. Ivers may
have been going less than 50.
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Yeah, but it's also possible... Now,
about those skid marks you just
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on what part of the road did you find
them?
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A straightaway or a curve?
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Both. They began on a curve and ended on
a straightaway. Okay, so Mr. Ivers came
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around the curve, saw the victim
standing in the road, and slammed on his
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brakes? That's correct.
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All right, now, taking into
consideration the length of the skid
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point of impact, when did Mr. Ivers
start braking?
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As soon as he saw the victim or an
intoxicated moment or two later?
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Well, it's hard to say without knowing
how fast he was going.
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I thought you knew how fast he was
going.
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Oh, no, that's right. That was just an
estimate, wasn't it?
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One more thing, Lieutenant.
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I understand you found a set of
footprints at the side of the road that
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made by the victim. Is that right?
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That's correct.
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Have you been able to determine who did
make those footprints?
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No. Yet one of them was found directly
on top of one of the victim's
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wasn't it?
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That's correct. Which indicates what?
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It's possible that someone else was
there that night.
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Well, it's possible that this as yet
unidentified person may have pushed the
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victim onto the road and caused the
accident, isn't it?
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Objection. Call for rampant speculation.
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Sustained.
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Nothing further, Your Honor.
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Next witness, Mr. Gerard.
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I'm sorry.
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Seeing Mr. Robinson without an
appointment is out of the question.
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Oh, but can I just slip in after he's
done with Mr.
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Herman?
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No, you may not.
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Yes, hello.
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Mm -hmm.
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Mm -hmm.
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Sure, I'll bring them right in.
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Thank you, George.
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Where the hell did this come from?
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From me.
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I'm sorry, Mr. Robinson. She's been
pestering me to let her see you. I told
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her... I'll call security.
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No, no, no, no.
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That's all right.
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Roger, we're going to have to continue
this later.
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No problem.
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You can go two doors.
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I'm Jerry Stone. I'm a private
investigator.
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I was just wondering what you and Mr.
Reeves were talking to Scott Aston about
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in the park.
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I don't think that's any of your
business, Ms. Stone.
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Well, it's just so obvious that you were
meeting with him on the sly. And since
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Mr. Aston is so dead now... As you
undoubtedly know,
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my partner and I are what is known as
corporate raiders.
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Sometimes we buy whole companies.
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But before we do that, we check those
companies out from top to bottom. And to
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do that, we hire private investigators
like Scott Afton.
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And if you ask me what company he was
checking out, I won't tell you.
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You know, that's so interesting, because
that's not at all what Mr. Reeves told
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me when I showed him the picture.
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When did you talk to him?
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This morning, about an hour ago.
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That's a nice try, Miss Stone.
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Mark's in L .A. on business.
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I just talked to him about an hour ago.
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Why did you take this picture, anyway?
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Why, Mr. Robinson, I don't think that's
any of your business.
295
00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:56,800
But thanks for your time.
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00:24:07,380 --> 00:24:08,380
Frank!
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Hey. Hey, I gotta talk to you. Yeah.
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Uh, did you hear about this private
investigator Scott asked me who got
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last night?
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00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,160
Yeah, it was on the news.
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00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:18,080
Well, that's the guy who was black,
really.
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00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:20,099
You're kidding.
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00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:21,420
Well, it gets worse than that.
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00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,340
I went to see him last night. The police
found out, so I'm kind of on their
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suspect list.
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Went to see him?
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00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,960
Yeah, well, I had him followed from
Calvo's, and, you know, once I found out
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he was and where he was staying, I
confronted him.
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You did all this without telling me?
Geez, Cliff, I hired you to meet with
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guy. That was it.
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00:24:40,820 --> 00:24:44,200
Well, I'm going the extra mile. Now,
don't worry. I didn't say anything to
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police. I don't intend to.
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It's all under the lawyer -client
privilege.
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All right, keep me posted in private.
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00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:56,540
Oh, that's a problem. I don't know where
it's safe to contact you.
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Try me at the office.
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00:24:58,060 --> 00:24:59,260
What if you're not at the office?
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Try me at the Mayfield Hotel, Mr. and
Mrs. William Gillespie.
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00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,180
William Gillespie? Yeah.
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00:25:05,940 --> 00:25:07,120
Mayfield Hotel. Try it.
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00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,320
Hey, just the person I want to see. Hey,
Gary Stone, Craig Browning. Hi, Gary.
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00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,460
Hi, Craig. Hi. Did you have a chance to
talk to John Robinson?
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Yep. Hey, Pates got asked to respond for
them.
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00:25:20,730 --> 00:25:21,730
That's what he said.
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00:25:21,810 --> 00:25:22,990
Now, don't buy that for a moment.
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00:25:29,550 --> 00:25:31,030
Rachel, what are you doing here?
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00:25:33,690 --> 00:25:37,330
It's okay. Cliff Lewis, Gary Stone. This
is my friend, Rachel Ballard.
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Hi. Hi.
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Hi. This'll just take a minute.
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What are you doing?
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I'm sorry. I know I wasn't supposed to
come, but I don't like this. I need to
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talk to you. Not now. I'll call you. I
promise.
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I miss you.
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I'll greet you later, okay?
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That was her, huh?
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00:26:04,660 --> 00:26:06,700
Yeah. Remember, keep me posted.
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00:26:19,050 --> 00:26:21,990
It was outside Calvo's when you went to
meet with Scott Astin. It was parked
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right next to me.
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00:26:40,190 --> 00:26:41,230
Who was at the door?
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00:26:43,030 --> 00:26:44,030
Lieutenant Bigelow.
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00:26:45,610 --> 00:26:46,610
He's in the living room.
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00:26:47,030 --> 00:26:48,030
What for?
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00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:54,860
Well, a handkerchief with your initials
on it and Scott Astor's blood was found
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at the scene of the crime.
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00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,100
He wants to take you downtown.
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00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:22,710
Mr. Matlock.
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00:27:23,530 --> 00:27:25,130
Hi. Craig Browning.
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00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:29,510
I know who you are. I just heard that
Cliff's been arrested.
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Suspicion of murder.
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00:27:31,050 --> 00:27:32,050
Oh, my God.
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00:27:33,090 --> 00:27:34,930
Are you going to represent him? Yeah.
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00:27:35,970 --> 00:27:39,650
And as his lawyer, I have to keep
whatever he tells me a secret.
353
00:27:40,810 --> 00:27:42,310
He told me everything.
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00:27:43,770 --> 00:27:45,150
You mean about me?
355
00:27:45,550 --> 00:27:47,450
And now you're going to tell me
everything.
356
00:27:47,930 --> 00:27:52,300
Starting with... Why you were at Kelbo's
the afternoon you sent Cliff to see
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00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:53,300
that blackmailer.
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00:27:53,860 --> 00:27:56,740
What makes you think I was there? And
whatever you do, don't lie.
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00:27:57,180 --> 00:27:58,180
I hate that.
360
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,640
I just wanted to get a look at the
blackmailer, that's all. Why? I was
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00:28:05,340 --> 00:28:08,000
You sure you didn't follow him back to
his hotel room?
362
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:10,980
What are you trying to say, that I
killed Scott Astin?
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00:28:11,340 --> 00:28:12,340
Cliff didn't.
364
00:28:12,860 --> 00:28:18,080
The only one I know who benefits from
Scott Astin's murder and from this...
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00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:22,560
Lawyer -client relationship that
prevents Cliff from telling the police
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00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,580
he knows is you.
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00:28:28,020 --> 00:28:29,640
You think I set this whole thing up?
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00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,340
Wouldn't be the first time somebody's
taken advantage of Cliff. Well, you're
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00:28:34,340 --> 00:28:35,340
wrong.
370
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:36,900
Then prove it.
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00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,560
Go in there and release him from any and
all obligations to you. Let him tell
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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:42,560
the truth.
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00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:49,080
The person who hired Scott Astin to make
sure I threw Cameron Ivers' case,
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00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:51,240
that's who you should be trying to nail.
Not me.
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00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:52,560
I'm no murderer.
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00:28:53,860 --> 00:28:55,020
A coward, maybe.
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00:28:55,740 --> 00:28:56,760
But not a murderer.
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00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,440
Came in here two days ago around four o
'clock in the afternoon. Do either of
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00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,440
you remember him?
380
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,980
Yeah, as a matter of fact, I do.
381
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,240
I'm investigating his murder.
382
00:29:27,740 --> 00:29:30,620
Do you happen to remember what he
wanted? Well, that's why I remember him.
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00:29:30,620 --> 00:29:34,400
came in here claiming that we'd run some
obituaries last month on some people
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00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:35,400
who weren't really dead.
385
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,260
Made us give them copies of their death
certificates.
386
00:29:39,220 --> 00:29:41,120
You keep copies of death certificates in
here?
387
00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:44,020
Well, the legal department won't let us
publish an obit without one.
388
00:29:45,460 --> 00:29:47,400
Do you happen to remember which ones you
showed him?
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00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:49,240
No.
390
00:29:50,030 --> 00:29:51,110
But the computer will.
391
00:29:58,950 --> 00:30:03,210
Having previously found the defendant
guilty of the lesser charge of vehicular
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00:30:03,210 --> 00:30:06,710
homicide, I sentence him to five years
formal probation.
393
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:12,710
Order him to pay a $10 ,000 fine and to
complete 1 ,000 hours of community
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00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:13,710
service.
395
00:30:14,090 --> 00:30:15,590
This court is now in recess.
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00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,140
Miss Drivers, Ben Matlock.
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00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,100
Could I speak with you for a moment?
398
00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:34,299
I suppose.
399
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:40,920
This may seem like a strange question,
400
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,780
but who would benefit from your going to
prison?
401
00:30:45,900 --> 00:30:48,820
What is this? Craig asked me the same
thing two days ago.
402
00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:50,009
What'd you tell him?
403
00:30:50,010 --> 00:30:51,230
That I had no idea.
404
00:30:51,690 --> 00:30:53,670
Now, what's this about? Craig wouldn't
say.
405
00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:58,530
Somebody tried to blackmail him into
throwing your case so you'd wind up in
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00:30:58,530 --> 00:31:00,230
prison. Are you joking? No.
407
00:31:00,950 --> 00:31:02,350
It was this man here.
408
00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:05,430
Private investigator, Scott Astin. You
know him?
409
00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:08,850
No. But I sure as hell know these other
two.
410
00:31:09,330 --> 00:31:12,790
But, Mr. Ivers... Mr. Ivers, stop. You
can't go in there.
411
00:31:13,310 --> 00:31:14,310
What's the matter?
412
00:31:14,730 --> 00:31:17,430
Were you afraid I was going to buy some
company out from under your snotty
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00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:20,410
little noses? Is that why you wanted me
out of the way? Just take it easy.
414
00:31:20,490 --> 00:31:21,369
What's the problem?
415
00:31:21,370 --> 00:31:22,370
Right here.
416
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:23,710
This is the problem.
417
00:31:24,570 --> 00:31:25,570
That's you.
418
00:31:25,810 --> 00:31:26,810
And that's you.
419
00:31:27,050 --> 00:31:29,930
Meeting with a guy who tried to get my
lawyer to send me up the river.
420
00:31:30,150 --> 00:31:31,310
I don't know what you're talking about.
421
00:31:31,510 --> 00:31:33,670
He was doing some investigating for us.
That's all.
422
00:31:34,170 --> 00:31:36,750
Liar. You're both liars. Mr. Ivers,
please.
423
00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:38,570
Calm down, Cameron.
424
00:31:38,790 --> 00:31:41,650
That meeting had nothing to do with you.
I think it did.
425
00:31:42,490 --> 00:31:43,670
In fact, I know it did.
426
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:49,130
You two still have a 28 % stake in
Lavinia Enterprises?
427
00:31:51,810 --> 00:31:52,810
Good.
428
00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:57,890
Because I just got through dumping 250
,000 shares of it.
429
00:32:00,430 --> 00:32:01,490
Don't look now, boys.
430
00:32:02,510 --> 00:32:03,590
But you're bleeding.
431
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,400
paying my bill, Pop. I'll pay you back,
I swear.
432
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,940
I don't know, Cliff. 200 grand.
433
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,140
You may have to get a paper route.
434
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,300
Besides, I'm gonna get it back.
435
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Unless you're thinking about making a
run for the border or something.
436
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,460
I'll tell you what I'm thinking about.
I'm thinking it was stupid of me to let
437
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:37,020
Craig Burney set me up like that.
438
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,120
Now you don't know for sure that he set
you up.
439
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,180
You trusted him. That's not stupid.
440
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:47,650
Have faith in your fellow man. That's
not stupid. That's an admirable quality.
441
00:32:48,050 --> 00:32:51,450
Oh, Pop, I was trying to impress him,
you know? I just went overboard on this
442
00:32:51,450 --> 00:32:53,990
case because I wanted him to respect me
and like me.
443
00:32:54,510 --> 00:32:57,050
I wanted him to think I was cool.
444
00:32:59,170 --> 00:33:00,350
Yeah, that's stupid.
445
00:33:35,050 --> 00:33:38,350
Hello again, Mr. Matlock. I'm sorry I
took off like that. I'm a bit impulsive.
446
00:33:38,590 --> 00:33:39,590
Where'd you go?
447
00:33:40,390 --> 00:33:45,190
Hey, everyone. I went to see John
Robinson and Mark Reeves.
448
00:33:45,390 --> 00:33:48,070
They're up to something. There's no
doubt about it. But while I was in their
449
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:49,470
office, something very odd happened.
450
00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:53,390
What? Well, there was a young woman
there. I'd never seen her before, and
451
00:33:53,390 --> 00:33:57,490
she knew who I was, which is very
surprising. I keep a very low profile.
452
00:33:58,870 --> 00:34:00,090
Maybe she works for them.
453
00:34:00,690 --> 00:34:02,590
I've been to their offices dozens of
times.
454
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,800
I've been to parties at both their
houses. I've never seen her before, I'm
455
00:34:06,820 --> 00:34:07,820
What does she look like?
456
00:34:08,139 --> 00:34:12,719
Mid to late 20s, 5 '6", 5 '7", dark
brown hair, about shoulder length, trim,
457
00:34:12,860 --> 00:34:13,860
very pretty.
458
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:15,760
Fair skin?
459
00:34:16,060 --> 00:34:17,060
Yeah.
460
00:34:17,580 --> 00:34:18,580
Rachel Bauer.
461
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:26,400
I promise you, as soon as the election
is over, I'll tell her. Even if you did,
462
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,659
you wouldn't wind up with me.
463
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,239
I can't handle this anymore, Craig. It
hurts too much.
464
00:34:40,170 --> 00:34:42,469
I'm really sorry to barge in on you like
this.
465
00:34:42,929 --> 00:34:47,449
Hi, Rachel. I see you're still on the
job here. I guess no one told you the
466
00:34:47,449 --> 00:34:52,310
blackmailer's dead and Cameron Ivers was
acquitted, so you can go home.
467
00:34:52,870 --> 00:34:53,870
What are you talking about?
468
00:34:54,310 --> 00:34:59,210
Well, Rachel here was seen this morning
at the offices of John Robinson and Mark
469
00:34:59,210 --> 00:35:03,590
Reeves. I'm pretty sure those are the
guys who hired Aston to blackmail you,
470
00:35:03,650 --> 00:35:07,610
which, if you think about it, he
couldn't have done without her help.
471
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,680
So that's why you're blowing me off.
472
00:35:12,260 --> 00:35:16,360
All along, you were working with Scott
Astin, leading me on so he could take
473
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,360
those pictures.
474
00:35:18,460 --> 00:35:19,760
I don't have to listen to this.
475
00:35:20,620 --> 00:35:23,460
Rachel, listen, here is something you do
have to listen to.
476
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,520
Chances are that one or both of those
men you met with this morning killed
477
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,660
Astin because I found a connection
between them and him.
478
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,220
And now I found a connection between
them and you.
479
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,260
So what do you suppose they're going to
do when they figure that out?
480
00:35:38,529 --> 00:35:41,870
Rachel, go to the DA and get these guys
before they get you.
481
00:35:42,830 --> 00:35:44,410
There is nothing to tell the DA.
482
00:35:44,910 --> 00:35:48,850
John Robinson and Mark Reeves paid me to
seduce Craig. That's it.
483
00:35:49,090 --> 00:35:52,090
I don't know why they wanted to
blackmail him, and I know nothing of the
484
00:35:52,090 --> 00:35:56,030
murders. Well, how long did you know
Scott Astin? I talked to him once, the
485
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:58,550
before he was murdered. He was in a big
hurry to get down to Florida.
486
00:35:59,050 --> 00:36:00,050
You and me?
487
00:36:01,090 --> 00:36:02,570
The whole thing was an act?
488
00:36:04,130 --> 00:36:06,650
You used me for fun away from home.
489
00:36:08,010 --> 00:36:09,630
I used you in a different way.
490
00:36:12,770 --> 00:36:17,550
Oh, if it's any consolation, I intend to
vote for your wife.
491
00:36:31,350 --> 00:36:32,970
I'm not sure I follow you.
492
00:36:33,770 --> 00:36:36,990
Somebody wanted Cameron Ivers to go to
prison?
493
00:36:37,500 --> 00:36:38,500
Is that what you think?
494
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,900
And I can't help but believe it had
something to do with business.
495
00:36:42,380 --> 00:36:46,460
Like, say, maybe he wanted to buy
somebody's company.
496
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,080
Say, yours.
497
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,900
Only somebody else wanted him out of the
way so they could buy your company.
498
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:54,220
Say, John Robinson, Mark Reeves.
499
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,340
I just met with John the other day.
500
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:57,720
I know.
501
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,760
He planning on buying you up?
502
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,720
Mr. Matlock, answering that question
could land me in prison.
503
00:37:05,390 --> 00:37:09,990
You're asking for what the SEC refers to
as insider information.
504
00:37:10,430 --> 00:37:13,590
I know, and I'm not looking to make a
fortune in the stock market.
505
00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:17,250
The police think my associate's a
murderer, and I'm just trying to prove
506
00:37:17,250 --> 00:37:18,250
not.
507
00:37:22,090 --> 00:37:26,970
What I'm about to say is completely off
the record. If anybody asks, I'll deny
508
00:37:26,970 --> 00:37:28,890
that I ever said a thing. Of course.
509
00:37:29,270 --> 00:37:33,270
The only person of late who has shown
any interest in acquiring Ashfield Life.
510
00:37:34,090 --> 00:37:37,850
It's Cameron Ivers. I was talking to
John about something else entirely.
511
00:37:38,150 --> 00:37:42,850
Have John Robinson and Mark Reeves ever
expressed an interest in buying your
512
00:37:42,850 --> 00:37:44,410
company? Never, never.
513
00:37:44,690 --> 00:37:46,010
Although I don't know why not.
514
00:37:46,270 --> 00:37:49,350
Our sales for the past two years have
been monumental.
515
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:54,170
As long as we're on the subject, have
you heard about the flexible premium
516
00:37:54,170 --> 00:37:56,570
adjustable policy that we've just begun
offering?
517
00:40:28,759 --> 00:40:31,100
Right, left, right, left. Wide it out.
518
00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:32,780
Right,
519
00:40:33,020 --> 00:40:36,260
left. Watch my feet. Watch my feet. Now
we're going to get into the monster.
520
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,400
Okay, here we go. Here we go.
521
00:40:39,740 --> 00:40:41,800
That's it. Now we're going to get the
arms into it. Ready?
522
00:40:42,340 --> 00:40:44,860
Back when I tried to learn to talk,
talk.
523
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,080
Yeah, what happened?
524
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,340
Broke his one foot.
525
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:48,578
Oh, yeah?
526
00:40:48,580 --> 00:40:49,580
Let's do something.
527
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,240
That's enough for Rupert. Okay. Good
job. Yeah.
528
00:40:54,140 --> 00:40:57,490
Okay. We're going to move into some
resistance training.
529
00:40:57,730 --> 00:40:58,730
Resistance.
530
00:40:59,990 --> 00:41:01,050
There you go.
531
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:06,590
Oh, I don't want to look like Arnold
Schwarzenegger. I just want to lose 20
532
00:41:06,590 --> 00:41:10,990
pounds by the 23rd. Let me tell you
something. If you want to lose weight,
533
00:41:10,990 --> 00:41:14,130
proper way to do it is to eat right and
increase your metabolism.
534
00:41:15,170 --> 00:41:19,190
You got it? Yeah. Okay, you stick with
me, Mr. M, and you're going to be
535
00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:21,410
and feeling like a million bucks in no
time.
536
00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:23,690
Man, I feel that's what I'm paying.
537
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:26,820
You're a pretty funny guy.
538
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,600
Okay. One -arm dumbbell curls. Just like
this.
539
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:32,138
Shoulders back.
540
00:41:32,140 --> 00:41:33,140
Chest out.
541
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:34,440
Right arm first.
542
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:35,620
Bring it up. Go ahead.
543
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:37,120
Bring it up. You exhale.
544
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,360
Go ahead. Right arm.
545
00:41:39,980 --> 00:41:40,980
That's it. Get up.
546
00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:42,720
That's it. Keep going.
547
00:41:43,420 --> 00:41:44,700
That's it. That's the way to breathe.
548
00:41:45,060 --> 00:41:46,520
Okay. And down slow.
549
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:50,840
There you go. Left arm up. Come on. Keep
going. These are heavy.
550
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,440
You're darn right they're heavy. No
pain, no gain.
551
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:54,680
Come on, squeeze.
552
00:41:55,240 --> 00:41:56,320
Keep it going, keep it going.
553
00:41:56,940 --> 00:42:00,620
Pretty soon your arms are going to feel
like hot, molten lead.
554
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,100
They do.
555
00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:03,260
Finn!
556
00:42:03,860 --> 00:42:06,240
Here, she might want to talk to me.
557
00:42:21,230 --> 00:42:22,390
I'm moving furniture.
558
00:42:23,370 --> 00:42:25,470
Why? You could have asked me to help
you.
559
00:42:26,030 --> 00:42:28,130
I just felt like doing it.
560
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:30,370
Oh.
561
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:33,990
Well, I went over to Kane Mortuary. You
know the place that issued the death
562
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:37,350
certificates to the three dead people
that Scott Asin was so interested in at
563
00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:38,410
the Atlanta Herald? Yeah.
564
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:41,390
Well, the place was completely
abandoned.
565
00:42:41,690 --> 00:42:45,570
I mean, really eerie. Like nobody had
been there for months, maybe even years.
566
00:42:46,890 --> 00:42:49,250
Well, they could have gone out of
business.
567
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,340
Not according to the Better Business
Bureau.
568
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,600
Are you okay?
569
00:42:57,140 --> 00:42:58,660
Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
570
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,000
Well, they're still listed in the phone
book, and when you call, you get a
571
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:03,820
machine. But get this one.
572
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,720
Those people whose names were on the
death certificates, they're not dead.
573
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:11,240
They're not?
574
00:43:12,180 --> 00:43:14,880
I traced them down through their social
security numbers.
575
00:43:15,460 --> 00:43:18,900
They're all very much alive, which is
what Scott Aston thought.
576
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,680
I wonder what he was on to.
577
00:43:23,260 --> 00:43:26,080
I don't know, but maybe we better find
out.
578
00:44:15,310 --> 00:44:16,310
May Allah...
579
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,360
In the kitchen.
580
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,360
This place stinks like onions.
581
00:44:52,820 --> 00:44:53,820
Onions stink.
582
00:44:54,020 --> 00:44:55,120
They make you cry, too.
583
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:56,600
You talk to D .A. yet?
584
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,959
About what?
585
00:44:58,960 --> 00:44:59,960
Cameron Ivers.
586
00:45:00,260 --> 00:45:03,640
What about him? Someone hit him with a
car last night and killed him.
587
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:04,879
I know that.
588
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,480
Well, that proves that Cliff didn't kill
Scott Afton.
589
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,920
I don't get it. Use your noggin, Ben.
590
00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:15,710
Somebody hired Scott Astin to blackmail
Cameron Ivers' lawyer so this fellow
591
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:19,230
Ivers would go to jail for hitting that
guy when he was driving drunk.
592
00:45:19,570 --> 00:45:24,470
You told him Craig Browning was being
blackmailed? I didn't. What happened to
593
00:45:24,470 --> 00:45:28,090
privileged information? You might as
well put it in the newspaper. I didn't
594
00:45:28,090 --> 00:45:32,610
him. So when this fellow Ivers went
free, this somebody killed him just like
595
00:45:32,610 --> 00:45:33,850
they killed Scott Astin.
596
00:45:34,110 --> 00:45:37,650
It's probably John Robinson or Mark
Reeves.
597
00:45:38,350 --> 00:45:39,590
Maybe even both.
598
00:45:39,930 --> 00:45:43,790
Where'd you get all this stuff? I didn't
tell him. I heard you two talking the
599
00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:48,850
other day. You were eavesdropping. I
just heard you. The only place Cliff and
600
00:45:48,850 --> 00:45:52,250
talked about this stuff was right here
in the kitchen. Where were you? Right
601
00:45:52,250 --> 00:45:53,250
there in that dining room.
602
00:45:53,690 --> 00:45:56,570
You were hiding in the dining room
listening to us?
603
00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:57,830
Daggone you, Billy.
604
00:45:57,970 --> 00:46:01,510
Pop, Ben is my lawyer. Any conversations
we have are confidential.
605
00:46:02,450 --> 00:46:04,570
Can I help it if I got all my faculties?
606
00:46:05,010 --> 00:46:06,850
Doctor said I got ears like a fruit bat.
607
00:46:07,250 --> 00:46:08,250
Like a what?
608
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,360
Fruit bat. Now listen, Ben. Cliff was
with me last night. We had dinner, pot
609
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,980
roasts and dumplings. Then we played gin
rummy till ten and I won.
610
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:18,320
So he couldn't have killed Cameron Ivers
and that means he didn't kill Scott
611
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:19,320
Aston.
612
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:23,400
Billy, I can't say anything to the DA
till Cliff says it's okay.
613
00:46:24,460 --> 00:46:25,459
Tell him.
614
00:46:25,460 --> 00:46:26,460
I can't.
615
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,120
They think you're a murderer. Tell him.
It is a principle of the thing, Dad. I
616
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,120
can't tell them.
617
00:46:32,460 --> 00:46:33,740
Principle? The heck with principle.
618
00:46:34,020 --> 00:46:36,660
They're destroying your reputation and
you don't even have one yet.
619
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,400
Well, if he's not going to do anything,
isn't there something you can do? Yep.
620
00:46:41,460 --> 00:46:42,460
Well, what?
621
00:46:43,660 --> 00:46:44,800
I'm not telling you.
622
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:53,760
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid seeing Mr.
Robinson and Mr. Reeves without an
623
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,240
appointment is absolutely out of the
question. Well, just tell them that I'm
624
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:01,460
here. See what happens. Ben Matlock.
625
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:03,980
They are in conference.
626
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,780
Well, give it a shot. What the heck?
627
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:19,320
Yeah, I'm sorry to bother you, but
there's a Ben Matlock here, and he'd
628
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,900
see you. I've already told him that
that's...
629
00:47:33,580 --> 00:47:34,840
This way, please.
630
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Well, it really is Ben Matlock. I'm John
Robinson. This is my partner, Mark
631
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,660
Reeves. Mr. Reeves.
632
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:48,760
Thank you, Doris.
633
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:54,920
Well, I guess I'm interrupting you
fellows just as you're trying to decide
634
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:56,280
company you're going to take over next.
635
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,400
I was rather hoping you had a idea for
it. Ah, you could put what I know about
636
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,420
the stock market on the head of a pen.
637
00:48:04,060 --> 00:48:07,920
Now, I wanted to talk to you about
Cameron Ivers.
638
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:11,140
That's a terrible tragedy. Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
639
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,420
He came to see you yesterday.
640
00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:15,400
Yes, yes, he did. Yeah.
641
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:20,380
I talked with him afterwards, and he
said that there was a young woman in
642
00:48:20,380 --> 00:48:21,098
with you.
643
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:26,040
The same young woman that helped Scott
Astin blackmail Cameron Ivers' lawyer,
644
00:48:26,260 --> 00:48:27,280
Craig Browning.
645
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:29,980
I'm afraid you've lost me.
646
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:36,860
Oh, well, at first, when you arranged
for this private detective to
647
00:48:36,860 --> 00:48:41,100
blackmail Craig Browning into throwing
Cameron Ivers' case, all you wanted was
648
00:48:41,100 --> 00:48:45,620
Mr. Ivers to go to jail. But when that
didn't work, and then he came in here
649
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:48,340
confronted you the way he did, well...
650
00:48:49,049 --> 00:48:53,310
You figured more drastic action should
be taken.
651
00:48:53,610 --> 00:48:54,610
How about it?
652
00:48:54,890 --> 00:48:57,550
We may be sharks in business, but we do
not kill people.
653
00:48:57,850 --> 00:49:00,210
And Cameron Ivers was no threat to us.
654
00:49:00,430 --> 00:49:01,430
Oh, yes, he was.
655
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:04,130
I don't know how yet, but I know he was.
656
00:49:04,570 --> 00:49:08,050
Well, I hate to burst your bubble, Mr.
Matlock, but Mark and I were attending a
657
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:10,530
black -tie fundraiser at the Ritz
-Carlton last night.
658
00:49:10,750 --> 00:49:11,750
Oh.
659
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:16,610
Well, how about the night Scott Astin
was murdered, between seven and eight?
660
00:49:17,250 --> 00:49:18,250
What night was that?
661
00:49:18,410 --> 00:49:21,930
That'd be Tuesday the 3rd.
662
00:49:22,830 --> 00:49:26,370
Playing racquetball at the spa club.
With each other, I guess.
663
00:49:26,690 --> 00:49:27,690
Yes.
664
00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:32,950
Well, maybe this whole thing is just one
big coincidence.
665
00:49:33,390 --> 00:49:37,850
The blackmail, the girl, Mr. Ivers
getting run down like that.
666
00:49:38,210 --> 00:49:40,350
I assure you, Mr. Matlock, that's
exactly what it is.
667
00:49:41,170 --> 00:49:42,650
Well, thanks for your time.
668
00:49:43,810 --> 00:49:47,530
And now that we've had our little talk,
I...
669
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Sure hope nothing happens to that girl,
Rachel Bower, don't you?
670
00:49:55,680 --> 00:50:02,300
Your friend, Ben
671
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,100
Matlock, is an alarmingly smart fellow.
672
00:50:04,660 --> 00:50:07,860
He's not my friend. And he only looks
smart compared to you two.
673
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,400
What's that supposed to mean?
674
00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:12,980
Killing Cameron Ivers was stupid.
675
00:50:13,420 --> 00:50:14,420
That's what it means.
676
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,180
What makes you think we'd kill him?
677
00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:22,200
A man had enemies all over the world,
one of whom happened to be you.
678
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,780
All that stuff was in Scott Asher's
pocket?
679
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:29,939
Yes, it was.
680
00:50:29,940 --> 00:50:34,540
A real pack rat, huh? I wonder why he
let the water in before he was killed.
681
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,920
Where did you find them?
682
00:50:37,220 --> 00:50:38,300
A sack of peanuts.
683
00:50:39,060 --> 00:50:40,920
I don't know. I smell them through the
wrapper.
684
00:50:42,260 --> 00:50:43,700
Fat. Just fat, see?
685
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:45,900
Probably why they smell so good.
686
00:50:47,530 --> 00:50:49,390
Shame to let them go to waste, though.
687
00:50:50,630 --> 00:50:51,690
Garbation in the world.
688
00:50:54,870 --> 00:50:55,950
Let's see what we got here.
689
00:50:56,770 --> 00:51:01,270
Driver's license, library card, ATM
card, car rental, video club.
690
00:51:02,650 --> 00:51:04,470
Top -of -the -line car rental.
691
00:51:05,070 --> 00:51:09,230
They say if you use their credit card,
you can get a free rental sometime.
692
00:51:10,010 --> 00:51:15,590
If he rented a car from them down in
Florida, he'd have to leave a local
693
00:51:15,590 --> 00:51:16,650
and phone number, wouldn't he?
694
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,700
Right. Fine, I'll be. Okay.
695
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,200
I got to go home.
696
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:23,500
What's over at the house?
697
00:51:24,140 --> 00:51:27,980
I got to meet a fella and move some
furniture.
698
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:36,020
Come on, fight it, fight it. Get up.
Good, good, good. Keep breathing.
699
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:37,420
Keep breathing. Good, good, good.
700
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,220
Attaboy, keep going. Couple more, couple
more.
701
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:41,780
Good job.
702
00:51:41,860 --> 00:51:43,120
My stomach's on fire.
703
00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:46,520
That's good, that's good. That's what we
want. Burn those abs. Blast them.
704
00:51:47,230 --> 00:51:48,390
I can't do anymore.
705
00:51:48,830 --> 00:51:52,350
All right. Good job. You went to
failure. That's what we want.
706
00:51:53,230 --> 00:51:55,590
Okay, Mr. M, hop up. We're going to do
some squats.
707
00:51:57,890 --> 00:51:58,890
Some what?
708
00:51:59,130 --> 00:52:00,130
Squats. Watch.
709
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:05,210
Three sets of 15 reps, holding 20
pounds. Maybe we'll pyramid up to 30.
710
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:06,210
see how it goes.
711
00:52:08,170 --> 00:52:10,990
You know, half the time, I don't know if
you're talking English.
712
00:52:12,630 --> 00:52:14,950
You're right. You know that? Here, grab
them.
713
00:52:15,260 --> 00:52:19,960
Oh, no more dumbbells. Just make me
sweat. That's something I do real good.
714
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:20,819
me sweat.
715
00:52:20,820 --> 00:52:22,940
The name of the game is muscle mass.
716
00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:27,100
All this exercise and all I've lost is a
pound and a half.
717
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,820
You have got to stop measuring your
progress by the scale. It's how you look
718
00:52:31,820 --> 00:52:33,300
how you feel, not how much you weigh.
719
00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:38,440
I hired you because I need to lose this
by the 23rd.
720
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,380
Now give it to me straight. Is it
possible? Yes or no?
721
00:52:43,299 --> 00:52:44,299
Well, that depends.
722
00:52:44,540 --> 00:52:45,419
On what?
723
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:47,440
On how you feel about liposuction.
724
00:52:59,020 --> 00:53:00,360
Well, I'll claim mortuary, Dad.
725
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,400
Is this your phony death certificate?
726
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:05,560
It sure looks that way.
727
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:10,840
So far, I've located seven people who
are dead, according to the claim
728
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:12,540
but are, without a doubt, alive.
729
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:16,810
They either live out of town or out of
state.
730
00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:19,090
They know they're supposed to be dead?
731
00:53:19,310 --> 00:53:23,070
None of them had any idea that they were
dead. But their obituaries had appeared
732
00:53:23,070 --> 00:53:24,350
in the Atlanta Herald.
733
00:53:24,910 --> 00:53:25,910
This is good.
734
00:53:25,930 --> 00:53:26,930
This is good.
735
00:53:27,610 --> 00:53:29,970
I used to eat like that.
736
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:33,210
Why'd you quit?
737
00:53:36,110 --> 00:53:37,110
Couldn't buy pants?
738
00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:39,450
What do you mean I couldn't buy pants?
739
00:53:40,750 --> 00:53:44,350
I couldn't buy pants with a 33 -inch
waist that fit.
740
00:53:46,290 --> 00:53:47,390
No wonder.
741
00:53:48,050 --> 00:53:49,270
Look at the gut.
742
00:53:53,490 --> 00:53:54,810
It's not so big.
743
00:53:56,730 --> 00:53:57,990
Get the tape.
744
00:54:00,910 --> 00:54:02,130
Well, anyway...
745
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,040
I thought the best way to find out if
these fake death certificates had
746
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,300
to do with Scott Aston's murder would be
to get all the people together to find
747
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:10,500
out if they have anything in common.
748
00:54:10,980 --> 00:54:11,980
How are you going to do that?
749
00:54:13,740 --> 00:54:17,840
Well, I have an idea, but it could be
expensive.
750
00:54:25,580 --> 00:54:32,200
Excuse me.
751
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,560
Excuse me.
752
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:37,940
Excuse me.
753
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:41,920
Hi.
754
00:54:43,260 --> 00:54:47,720
We need to get started. Welcome to
Atlanta. Again, I'm Jerry Stone, and
755
00:54:47,720 --> 00:54:51,980
over here is Billy Lewis. He's the one
that paid to fly you out here and put
756
00:54:51,980 --> 00:54:52,980
up at the nice hotel.
757
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,260
That's okay. I did it for my boy here.
758
00:54:59,130 --> 00:55:02,790
Now, as I explained to all of you on the
phone, I've reasoned to believe that
759
00:55:02,790 --> 00:55:06,330
you all have something in common, and
we're here to discover what that might
760
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:10,370
Okay, how many of you know a man named
John Robinson?
761
00:55:10,810 --> 00:55:11,810
Never heard of him.
762
00:55:12,550 --> 00:55:14,170
Uh, Mark Reeve?
763
00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:15,750
The guy who played Superman?
764
00:55:16,030 --> 00:55:20,710
You're thinking of Steve Reeve. No, that
was George Reeve. You mean Christopher
765
00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:22,390
Reeve. Okay,
766
00:55:24,290 --> 00:55:28,130
how about a man named Cameron Ivers?
767
00:55:28,380 --> 00:55:29,380
I have heard of him.
768
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,440
I think I have.
769
00:55:31,780 --> 00:55:34,440
What about this? Have any of you ever
lived here in Atlanta?
770
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,400
No. My grandson lived here once.
771
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,460
Um, where was everybody born?
772
00:55:41,100 --> 00:55:42,100
Oklahoma City.
773
00:55:42,340 --> 00:55:43,340
You know,
774
00:55:43,720 --> 00:55:44,720
you look really familiar.
775
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Weren't you on that cruise I took last
year to St. Thomas?
776
00:55:47,340 --> 00:55:48,259
Are you kidding?
777
00:55:48,260 --> 00:55:50,480
I threw up just looking at pictures of
boats.
778
00:55:50,780 --> 00:55:51,780
Well,
779
00:55:52,620 --> 00:55:55,080
what, um, what religion is everybody?
780
00:55:59,459 --> 00:56:02,580
How many of you think Atlanta would have
won the pennant if there hadn't been a
781
00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:03,580
strike?
782
00:56:08,620 --> 00:56:11,700
Guess I'm going to Miami.
783
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:18,580
Let me get that.
784
00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:21,040
No, I got it. Well, let me drive you to
the airport.
785
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:22,360
I got a taxi coming.
786
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:23,820
Well, I'm a good driver.
787
00:56:24,580 --> 00:56:25,580
Fair.
788
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,000
I'll take you for free.
789
00:56:29,180 --> 00:56:30,180
No, Billy.
790
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,220
What's the matter with you? Free's your
favorite word. You know how to say it in
791
00:56:33,220 --> 00:56:34,220
ten different languages.
792
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,560
It wouldn't wind up being free. You'd
keep butting in and try and take over.
793
00:56:38,860 --> 00:56:44,200
Ben, Cliff's my only child, my sole
heir, and he's in trouble right now.
794
00:56:44,980 --> 00:56:46,520
Well, he's pretty smart.
795
00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:51,520
I know he doesn't seem it sometime,
especially now with this lawyer -client
796
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,880
-can't -talk -about -it stuff, but I
want to help.
797
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,120
I'll pay for the plane tickets.
798
00:56:58,880 --> 00:56:59,880
No, Billy.
799
00:57:02,020 --> 00:57:03,120
Come on, Ben.
800
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,740
I'll stay out of your way. I won't say a
single word the whole time, I promise.
801
00:57:07,780 --> 00:57:10,040
I'll just go with you and hear what
people have to say.
802
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:11,118
You'll butt in, Billy.
803
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:12,380
You won't even know I'm there.
804
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,640
I know.
805
00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:16,840
Except for the colorful way you're
dressed.
806
00:57:17,220 --> 00:57:19,380
I'll buy you a colorful suit. That way
we'll blend.
807
00:57:19,660 --> 00:57:20,660
No, Billy.
808
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:26,300
meals, a hotel, pay for everything. And
anything else that comes up, too.
809
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:31,440
No. I'll buy presents for everybody at
the airport on the way home. Well, since
810
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,480
you put it that way... No.
811
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,120
Mr. Matlock. Yes. Hi, welcome to Miami
Beach. Thank you. What can I do for you?
812
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:02,520
I called from Atlanta about a man named
Scott Astin. The top -of -the -line car
813
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:05,440
rental company said he stayed here on
the 2nd. That's right.
814
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,200
Yeah. He said he was murdered? Yeah, the
next day.
815
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,100
You got a warrant that allows me to look
at his bill?
816
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:13,400
Oh, yeah.
817
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:18,460
There you go.
818
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:19,760
Pretty minimal.
819
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:20,960
Sure is.
820
00:58:21,630 --> 00:58:25,450
Pay for one night and that's about it.
No meals, no parking, no calls.
821
00:58:26,170 --> 00:58:28,270
Only charges for a one -page fax you
receive.
822
00:58:28,970 --> 00:58:30,530
Want me to see if we still have a copy
of it?
823
00:58:31,290 --> 00:58:33,510
Do you keep copies of all the faxes you
get?
824
00:58:33,830 --> 00:58:36,710
In this day and age, it pays to make
backups of everything.
825
00:58:37,210 --> 00:58:38,290
I'll be right back. Okay.
826
00:58:56,040 --> 00:59:00,040
So you found a place okay, huh? I just
followed the directions on that... that
827
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:03,000
fax you sent to Scott Astin when he came
to see you.
828
00:59:03,260 --> 00:59:08,780
Are you hungry? My wife just made some
cookies. In fact, I can smell them all
829
00:59:08,780 --> 00:59:09,780
the way out here.
830
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:10,900
Oh, yeah.
831
00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:12,100
Oh, I better not.
832
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:17,800
I got my 40th college reunion coming up,
and I'm trying to lose a little weight.
833
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,800
Well, why don't we just take a walk
then? That way I can show off the place.
834
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:22,880
That sounds good.
835
00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:23,980
Yeah.
836
00:59:26,830 --> 00:59:27,990
Boy, this is a pretty place.
837
00:59:29,330 --> 00:59:30,790
Bet you like living here.
838
00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:32,010
Oh, yes, sir.
839
00:59:32,550 --> 00:59:37,470
So, you said you had some questions
about Scott Astin? Yeah, I wanted to
840
00:59:37,470 --> 00:59:40,230
why he came all the way down here from
Atlanta to see you.
841
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:44,370
I needed a private investigator, and I
was thinking about hiring him. To do
842
00:59:44,370 --> 00:59:45,370
what?
843
00:59:45,590 --> 00:59:47,170
Why am I asking why you want to know?
844
00:59:48,510 --> 00:59:50,270
He was murdered the next day.
845
00:59:52,930 --> 00:59:53,930
He's dead?
846
00:59:57,130 --> 00:59:59,770
Trying to find out who killed him and,
you know, why.
847
01:00:02,850 --> 01:00:04,510
My wife and I have two children.
848
01:00:04,750 --> 01:00:07,130
Our youngest is a little boy. He's five
years old.
849
01:00:07,390 --> 01:00:09,290
He was born with severe disabilities.
850
01:00:10,030 --> 01:00:15,050
Now, we love him dearly, but it's hard
caring for him. It's hard on my wife and
851
01:00:15,050 --> 01:00:16,230
me. It's hard on our daughter.
852
01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:17,850
It's hard on our marriage.
853
01:00:19,010 --> 01:00:20,010
I imagine.
854
01:00:20,230 --> 01:00:25,350
Anyway, I... Somehow I got it in my
brain and my wife was having an affair,
855
01:00:25,350 --> 01:00:29,330
I... Flew Scott Aston down here to find
out if it was true.
856
01:00:29,530 --> 01:00:33,250
Oh, you wanted him to spy on you?
857
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:35,810
Well, I just wanted to know.
858
01:00:37,230 --> 01:00:42,550
But talking to him turned out to be kind
of therapeutic for me. I finally
859
01:00:42,550 --> 01:00:48,150
realized that I was probably just
overreacting. So I sent him home and
860
01:00:48,150 --> 01:00:51,870
I'd call him after I thought things
over. Well, why him? Why didn't you get
861
01:00:51,870 --> 01:00:52,870
somebody local?
862
01:00:52,970 --> 01:00:54,270
A friend of mine used him.
863
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:56,160
I wasn't about to use the yellow pages.
864
01:00:57,980 --> 01:00:59,160
Did you call him back?
865
01:00:59,500 --> 01:01:02,000
No. I decided I was overreacting.
866
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,660
Now that is what we call a preschool.
867
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,160
It's where we work out all our
yearlings.
868
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,280
How long have you had this place?
869
01:01:14,900 --> 01:01:17,420
Let's see. I retired in 92.
870
01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:19,860
It's been going on about three years.
871
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:21,920
You're awful young.
872
01:01:22,860 --> 01:01:27,280
How could you retire? How could you
afford it? I was in the right business
873
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:28,098
the right time.
874
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:29,100
Computer software.
875
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:31,940
I made more money and I knew what to do
with it.
876
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,380
But when our son was born, I decided
enough was enough.
877
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:43,940
I wanted to stay at home and make sure
that he got off to the best possible
878
01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:47,180
start. Well, that's a good point.
879
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:51,980
Well, you've answered all my questions.
I appreciate it. Don't you want to see
880
01:01:51,980 --> 01:01:52,980
the rest of the farm?
881
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,320
Well, no.
882
01:01:55,620 --> 01:01:57,140
Horses and I don't, really.
883
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,540
I'll get something to wipe that off.
884
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,820
The guy asked him to go all the way to
Florida to talk to some potential
885
01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:06,578
that's all?
886
01:02:06,580 --> 01:02:10,120
Well, that squares with the mileage on
the car he rented.
887
01:02:10,780 --> 01:02:16,480
He drove from the airport to the hotel,
drove down to the farm, drove back to
888
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:20,480
the hotel, spent the night, drove to the
airport and flew out.
889
01:02:21,710 --> 01:02:22,710
Such a dead end, huh?
890
01:02:22,950 --> 01:02:24,450
Well, I don't know.
891
01:02:25,310 --> 01:02:27,290
See what you can find out about this
fella.
892
01:02:28,010 --> 01:02:29,850
Chuck Ratner's his name.
893
01:02:30,510 --> 01:02:33,070
He owned a horse farm down near Hialeah.
894
01:02:33,570 --> 01:02:36,690
Used to work for some kind of computer
software company.
895
01:02:37,130 --> 01:02:38,830
Ratner. Right. I'll do that.
896
01:02:39,030 --> 01:02:41,890
I told you he should have taken me with
you. I would have gotten something out
897
01:02:41,890 --> 01:02:42,890
of the guy right there and then.
898
01:02:43,790 --> 01:02:44,790
Yeah,
899
01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:46,470
sorry.
900
01:02:46,590 --> 01:02:47,590
So when are you coming home?
901
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:53,940
But I'm not coming straight home.
902
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,220
I got to make a stop.
903
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:11,040
Can't you do something?
904
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,220
I think maybe you came to the wrong
place, Ben.
905
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:16,080
You don't need a tailor.
906
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,720
You need an engineer.
907
01:03:18,180 --> 01:03:21,940
Oh, come on, Marv. Everybody puts on a
little weight as they get older.
908
01:03:24,340 --> 01:03:25,340
What are you doing?
909
01:03:25,700 --> 01:03:27,100
I'm holding my stomach in.
910
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:28,218
You are?
911
01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:29,220
Yes.
912
01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:30,940
Where are you putting it?
913
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,260
Come on, Marv. Oh, don't worry. I'm just
making a little small talk while I get
914
01:03:35,260 --> 01:03:37,020
a lay of the land here.
915
01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:38,320
Can't you just let it out some?
916
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Well, there's not enough material.
917
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:43,900
Well, maybe if I can find some to match
the coat and...
918
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,060
Put it here in the back and sort of
widen it out a little bit.
919
01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:51,840
Move the buttons over here on the
trousers and fix the zipper over there.
920
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:53,800
You'll be set.
921
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:55,999
Thanks, Mark.
922
01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,860
I can fix that, too.
923
01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:15,470
Okay, I know you're all a little anxious
to get home a cookie.
924
01:04:16,190 --> 01:04:17,750
This is worse than jewelry duty.
925
01:04:17,990 --> 01:04:19,810
I'd like to see my grandkids.
926
01:04:20,170 --> 01:04:21,170
Please,
927
01:04:22,930 --> 01:04:27,270
whatever it is you people have in
common, two men may be dead because of
928
01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:28,670
Now, we've got to figure this out.
929
01:04:31,930 --> 01:04:32,930
Hello, everybody.
930
01:04:33,050 --> 01:04:38,530
Just keep talking to each other. Talk
about the school, siblings, hobby, club,
931
01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:42,170
job, something. You've got to have
something in common.
932
01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:44,090
Hi. Hi. Where's Ben?
933
01:04:44,330 --> 01:04:45,630
He went over to the courthouse.
934
01:04:46,130 --> 01:04:49,210
Well, I've been doing a little research.
You know the guy you went to see down
935
01:04:49,210 --> 01:04:51,390
in Florida, Chuck Ratner? Yeah.
936
01:04:51,690 --> 01:04:55,050
Well, the guy said that he worked for a
computer software company.
937
01:04:55,530 --> 01:04:59,830
He lied. He worked for Roger Herman's
company, Ashfield Life Insurance.
938
01:05:00,510 --> 01:05:01,348
Ashfield Life?
939
01:05:01,350 --> 01:05:02,350
Yeah, that's right.
940
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:06,420
I know that company. I almost bought a
policy from them. Then I discovered I
941
01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:09,440
could get the same thing for less
somewhere else. Me too.
942
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,520
Well, at least they give you a free pen
when you sign up an application.
943
01:05:13,100 --> 01:05:17,940
Hold the phone. How many of you at one
time or another have applied for life
944
01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:19,740
insurance from Ashfield Life?
945
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,120
Yeah, I did. I did. I did.
946
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,020
Good, good, good. The gang's all here.
947
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:41,900
It better be as urgent as you indicated.
948
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,300
Oh, it's pretty complicated.
949
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,720
Maybe everybody better sit down. Get to
the point.
950
01:05:48,640 --> 01:05:49,640
Okay.
951
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,180
I know what you've all been up to.
952
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,060
And I know that Mr.
953
01:05:56,260 --> 01:06:01,420
Herman here has been using information
on application forms of people who
954
01:06:01,420 --> 01:06:04,920
decided not to buy Ashfield Life
Insurance.
955
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:09,000
They filled out the forms, but they
didn't buy.
956
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:16,280
And he used the information on those
applications to issue a lot of phony
957
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,280
insurance policies.
958
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,540
How in the world would I do that?
959
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:23,220
Money. That's ridiculous. How can I make
any money if there's no one to pay the
960
01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:27,400
premiums? Well, according to the state
insurance commissioner, you could sell
961
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,620
those phony insurance policies to
another company.
962
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:36,900
You'd remain the administrator, and you
could pay the premiums for a year or
963
01:06:36,900 --> 01:06:43,100
two, and then one by one issue fake
death certificates. That way you'd
964
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:47,900
all the death benefits from the second
insurance company, keeping all the money
965
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:48,819
for yourself.
966
01:06:48,820 --> 01:06:54,640
Huh? Of course, in order to issue fake
death certificates, you'd have to own a
967
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:57,020
mortuary, which you do.
968
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,740
Kane Mortuary.
969
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:07,480
Am I to understand that you've discussed
all of this already with the state
970
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,280
commissioner? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he
said it's a very ingenious idea.
971
01:07:12,980 --> 01:07:16,200
Highly illegal, but very ingenious. He
wants to talk to you.
972
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:23,520
Oh, and since the partnership of Mr.
Robinson and Mr. Reeves owns
973
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:29,220
the bulk of Asheville Insurance stock
outside of, of course, Mr. Herman,
974
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,980
I also spoke with the Securities and
Exchange Commission.
975
01:07:33,220 --> 01:07:33,939
Wait a minute.
976
01:07:33,940 --> 01:07:37,800
We bought that stock on good faith. What
you're saying is true.
977
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:39,720
It's new stocks.
978
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,660
Well, maybe you didn't know about the
fraud when you bought the stock.
979
01:07:44,860 --> 01:07:50,220
But you found out about it. And that's
why Mr. Ivers was such a threat to you.
980
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:57,400
According to the agreement which you
signed, you were not permitted to sell
981
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:58,400
stock.
982
01:07:58,670 --> 01:07:59,810
For five months.
983
01:08:00,690 --> 01:08:06,690
And if in that time, Mr. Ivers got
interested, started sniffing around,
984
01:08:06,690 --> 01:08:07,690
the fraud,
985
01:08:08,110 --> 01:08:14,970
Ashfield Life would be out of business.
And you'd be out, what, $300 million?
986
01:08:16,790 --> 01:08:20,149
And so, to be sure that Mr.
987
01:08:20,410 --> 01:08:24,010
Ivers was out of the way for at least
five months,
988
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:29,220
You made sure he had plenty to drink at
Mr.
989
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:31,740
Robinson's party. Remember Mr.
Robinson's party?
990
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:39,600
And then you hired somebody to shove a
bomb that nobody would ever remember
991
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,040
anyway out in front of his car when he
was on his way home.
992
01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:49,660
And then you hired that investigator,
Scott Aston, to blackmail his lawyer
993
01:08:49,660 --> 01:08:51,200
throwing his case so Mr.
994
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,160
Ivers would wind up in jail.
995
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,240
But, but...
996
01:08:55,450 --> 01:09:02,410
Then, the investigator, Ashton, he got
curious about the fraud.
997
01:09:05,149 --> 01:09:12,130
And he wound up in Florida talking to an
ex -Ashfield employee, a fellow
998
01:09:12,130 --> 01:09:13,689
named Chuck Ratner, remember him?
999
01:09:13,970 --> 01:09:17,069
About these fake life insurance
policies.
1000
01:09:17,330 --> 01:09:23,370
The upshot of it was, you knew you had
to do something about Scott Ashton. So
1001
01:09:23,370 --> 01:09:26,729
one of you... Went over to his hotel
room and hit him over the head and
1002
01:09:26,729 --> 01:09:32,010
him. I repeat, John and I played
racquetball that night from 6 to 8 at
1003
01:09:32,010 --> 01:09:36,750
club. And I was in a meeting with Chuck
Ratner. He came to see me the day after
1004
01:09:36,750 --> 01:09:38,970
Scott Astin went to see him in Florida.
1005
01:09:39,830 --> 01:09:43,710
Yeah, I know. I called him this morning
after I realized he had lied to me the
1006
01:09:43,710 --> 01:09:46,310
last time I saw him. I hate when people
do that, don't you?
1007
01:09:47,210 --> 01:09:50,410
Any other wild accusations you'd like to
hurl in our direction?
1008
01:09:51,210 --> 01:09:52,490
No, that about does it.
1009
01:09:53,660 --> 01:09:55,360
I'd talk to my lawyers, gentlemen.
1010
01:09:57,220 --> 01:09:58,220
I'll see you in court.
1011
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:15,160
Hey, Clint.
1012
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,720
Oh, hi, Craig. Can I talk to you for a
second in private?
1013
01:10:18,080 --> 01:10:19,080
Yeah, sure.
1014
01:10:19,980 --> 01:10:20,980
I'll meet you inside.
1015
01:10:21,660 --> 01:10:23,600
Thanks. Uh, yeah, what's up?
1016
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,480
Look, uh, forget all that lawyer -client
privilege information stuff, okay?
1017
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,380
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, I... No, no, I
mean it. You tell the police or whomever
1018
01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:34,600
else you need to that I was being
blackmailed because I was cheating on my
1019
01:10:34,620 --> 01:10:35,419
It's okay.
1020
01:10:35,420 --> 01:10:36,820
Whatever happens, I can deal with it.
1021
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:39,820
Okay.
1022
01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:42,360
You got guts.
1023
01:10:44,160 --> 01:10:49,540
Cliff, wait, um... I don't have guts.
1024
01:10:51,150 --> 01:10:53,690
The police called my house yesterday and
talked to my wife.
1025
01:10:54,430 --> 01:10:57,430
She knows everything and she wants a
divorce.
1026
01:10:58,510 --> 01:10:59,750
What about the election?
1027
01:11:00,810 --> 01:11:02,970
She doesn't care whether she wins or
loses anymore.
1028
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:04,430
She's pretty mad.
1029
01:11:06,450 --> 01:11:11,350
I wanted you to think that I was taking
the high road because I do it so
1030
01:11:11,350 --> 01:11:12,350
infrequently.
1031
01:11:14,470 --> 01:11:15,710
You're the one with the guts, pal.
1032
01:11:17,310 --> 01:11:18,310
Good luck in there.
1033
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:21,500
I'll be pulling for you.
1034
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:25,300
Thanks.
1035
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:39,620
I understand the decedent Scott Aston
had a talk with you last month, the day
1036
01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:44,380
before he was murdered, on your horse
farm down there in Florida. Is that
1037
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:45,960
Yes, it is.
1038
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:47,440
What do you want to talk about?
1039
01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:56,400
He, uh, he suspected that Asheville Life
Insurance Company was creating
1040
01:11:56,400 --> 01:12:01,240
fake life insurance policies, selling
them to other companies in order to
1041
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,460
defraud them out of millions of dollars
in death benefits.
1042
01:12:05,540 --> 01:12:08,960
The last time I talked with you, you
told me something else altogether.
1043
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:10,719
Yes, sir.
1044
01:12:10,720 --> 01:12:14,940
I apologize for that, sir. This is the
truth. This is the truth. Yes, sir.
1045
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:15,940
why'd he come to you?
1046
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:20,060
Because I used to work at Asheville
Life, I guess. When you worked there,
1047
01:12:20,060 --> 01:12:23,600
you know that fraudulent policies were
being sold to other companies?
1048
01:12:23,980 --> 01:12:25,140
I suspected it.
1049
01:12:25,380 --> 01:12:28,520
Is that why you quit, or should I say
retired?
1050
01:12:29,180 --> 01:12:33,360
Yes. And you retired with a very
generous pension, didn't you?
1051
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,300
You mean was I being paid to keep quiet?
1052
01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:37,980
No.
1053
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,080
But you did keep quiet.
1054
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,240
My son is developmentally disabled.
1055
01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:50,280
Roger Herman, the president of Asheville
Life, has always shown nothing but the
1056
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:53,360
utmost concern and compassion for my son
and my family.
1057
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,580
I didn't report my suspicions because
I... I felt I owed him.
1058
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:01,120
What did you tell Scott Astin?
1059
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,540
Nothing. Told him I didn't know what he
was talking about.
1060
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,080
What'd he do?
1061
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:07,260
Got angry and left.
1062
01:13:07,820 --> 01:13:08,820
What'd you do?
1063
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,000
Called Mr. Herman.
1064
01:13:10,540 --> 01:13:13,980
He didn't want to talk on the phone, so
I flew up to Atlanta the next evening
1065
01:13:13,980 --> 01:13:15,690
and... Met him at his club for drinks.
1066
01:13:16,210 --> 01:13:20,470
The next evening would have been the
third, the night of the murder.
1067
01:13:21,750 --> 01:13:27,830
Yes, yes. And I was with Mr. Herman from
about 6 .45 till about
1068
01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:30,110
8 .30 that night.
1069
01:13:31,630 --> 01:13:32,630
Well,
1070
01:13:33,130 --> 01:13:36,390
during your meeting with Mr.
1071
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:41,630
Aspen, did he mention Cliff Lewis?
1072
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:43,810
Who? The defendant?
1073
01:13:44,710 --> 01:13:47,590
Oh, no, he didn't. Never.
1074
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:49,150
They mentioned Craig Browning.
1075
01:13:49,370 --> 01:13:52,110
No. How about Cameron Ivers? Never.
1076
01:13:52,910 --> 01:13:56,950
Did he give you the impression that
since he wasn't going to get anything
1077
01:13:56,950 --> 01:14:02,170
you about the fraud going on at Ashfield
Life, you're going to let the matter
1078
01:14:02,170 --> 01:14:07,610
drop? He told me that he said something
like he was going to keep rattling cages
1079
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:11,350
until either the truth or somebody's
head fell out in his lap.
1080
01:14:12,780 --> 01:14:15,280
And less than 24 hours later, he was
dead.
1081
01:14:15,940 --> 01:14:17,120
No more questions.
1082
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,480
Well, it seems Mr.
1083
01:14:23,740 --> 01:14:25,200
Herman has an alibi.
1084
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:28,920
One of them.
1085
01:14:34,540 --> 01:14:36,800
There they are.
1086
01:14:41,770 --> 01:14:46,470
Right on time. They play racquetball
between 6 and 8 every Tuesday and
1087
01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:48,490
night, and they have for the past four
years.
1088
01:14:49,930 --> 01:14:51,130
Can I see him leaving?
1089
01:14:51,530 --> 01:14:52,570
Yeah, right there.
1090
01:14:54,530 --> 01:14:55,530
There.
1091
01:14:56,290 --> 01:14:57,290
20, 22.
1092
01:14:57,410 --> 01:14:58,510
22 minutes after 8.
1093
01:14:58,930 --> 01:14:59,930
Good -looking guys.
1094
01:15:00,210 --> 01:15:02,850
Too bad one of them's so weird and the
other one's so married.
1095
01:15:04,250 --> 01:15:05,250
Well, thanks.
1096
01:15:05,550 --> 01:15:07,430
Would you mind if I took a look around?
1097
01:15:08,010 --> 01:15:09,010
Sure.
1098
01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:19,090
Hi, sir. Have you ever seen these men?
1099
01:15:22,890 --> 01:15:26,050
Gentlemen, do you know of a John
Robinson? No.
1100
01:15:27,650 --> 01:15:28,650
Oh,
1101
01:15:32,850 --> 01:15:33,850
what the heck.
1102
01:15:38,550 --> 01:15:39,550
Hey,
1103
01:15:42,350 --> 01:15:43,350
buddy.
1104
01:15:49,610 --> 01:15:50,409
I've got to answer a question.
1105
01:15:50,410 --> 01:15:51,530
You know these two guys here?
1106
01:15:53,810 --> 01:15:58,930
You should
1107
01:15:58,930 --> 01:16:03,830
dry your hair. You'll catch a cold.
1108
01:16:05,370 --> 01:16:06,870
Yeah, well, the wet looks in, lady.
1109
01:16:07,150 --> 01:16:08,570
Hair dries well with perms.
1110
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:37,980
entering the club two weeks before the
murder.
1111
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:42,840
And here you are leaving the club.
1112
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:50,240
And here you are entering the club one
week before the murder. And here you are
1113
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:53,660
leaving the club.
1114
01:16:54,460 --> 01:16:59,060
Now, in those pictures, when you entered
the club, was your hair wet or dry?
1115
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:00,300
It's dry.
1116
01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:02,080
How about when you left the club?
1117
01:17:03,180 --> 01:17:04,340
Wet. How come?
1118
01:17:06,190 --> 01:17:08,750
We take showers after we play. How come
you don't dry?
1119
01:17:10,530 --> 01:17:15,250
Club doesn't provide hair dryers. Oh, so
you just towel dry it and leave it a
1120
01:17:15,250 --> 01:17:16,590
little wet. That's fashionable.
1121
01:17:17,550 --> 01:17:22,190
Now, here you are entering the club
January 3rd, the night of the murder.
1122
01:17:23,670 --> 01:17:27,490
And here you are leaving the club.
1123
01:17:27,950 --> 01:17:30,590
Now, how could that be?
1124
01:17:31,570 --> 01:17:34,710
You left the club with dry hair.
1125
01:17:35,850 --> 01:17:36,850
How could that be?
1126
01:17:38,430 --> 01:17:45,390
Well, uh... Oh, I know. That was the
night I hurt my knee. We only played
1127
01:17:45,390 --> 01:17:50,070
for about an hour, and then we had a
drink. There's no record if you're
1128
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:52,130
drink or anything else at the club that
night.
1129
01:17:53,090 --> 01:17:55,470
You rented the court, and that's it.
1130
01:17:56,150 --> 01:18:00,210
Only you didn't play racquetball that
night, did you? You or Mr. Reeves or
1131
01:18:00,210 --> 01:18:03,510
slipped out the back door, went over to
Mr.
1132
01:18:03,890 --> 01:18:08,650
Ashton's... Hotel room killed him,
slipped back in the club so it looked
1133
01:18:08,650 --> 01:18:12,270
had an alibi. Not true. It's already
been established that you stood to lose
1134
01:18:12,270 --> 01:18:17,250
hundreds of millions of dollars if he
lived to tell about the fraud going on
1135
01:18:17,250 --> 01:18:18,250
Asheville Life.
1136
01:18:18,770 --> 01:18:19,910
Right, Mr. Robinson?
1137
01:18:28,250 --> 01:18:29,810
I need to talk to my attorney.
1138
01:18:30,870 --> 01:18:32,450
Sounds like a good idea to me.
1139
01:18:33,450 --> 01:18:36,090
This court's in recess till 9 a .m.
tomorrow.
1140
01:18:37,290 --> 01:18:41,510
And because we are so successful, people
who are eager to get rich try to do so
1141
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:45,950
by finding out about our investment
plans and then acting on them even
1142
01:18:45,950 --> 01:18:49,870
do. Our phones have been tapped, our
employees bribed, our cars have been
1143
01:18:49,870 --> 01:18:50,870
followed.
1144
01:18:51,250 --> 01:18:54,390
Secrecy has become an absolute necessity
for us, and not just out of self
1145
01:18:54,390 --> 01:18:55,390
-interest.
1146
01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:57,450
Federal law demands it. Federal law?
1147
01:18:57,710 --> 01:19:00,770
When did you get so law -abiding? You've
been indicted for fraud.
1148
01:19:01,310 --> 01:19:03,970
Yes. But we're not murderers.
1149
01:19:04,590 --> 01:19:06,990
You were right. We did use the sports
club as a cover.
1150
01:19:07,310 --> 01:19:10,650
But were we to say where we really went
that night, the SEC could very easily
1151
01:19:10,650 --> 01:19:13,630
consider it a violation of insider
trading laws. Wait a minute.
1152
01:19:13,950 --> 01:19:17,070
If there's a problem with the SEC, I'll
handle it.
1153
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:18,390
Now, where were you?
1154
01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:24,610
With Carl Gottlieb, the CEO of the VSN
Corporation.
1155
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:27,870
Discussing a possible takeover.
1156
01:19:28,350 --> 01:19:29,490
Here's his sworn affidavit.
1157
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:40,300
Mr. Matlock, do you mind?
1158
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:58,080
Well, whoever killed Scott Astin, we
know it wasn't John Robinson or Mark
1159
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,860
Reeves. That's what you said before
about Roger Herman. Well, we'll just
1160
01:20:01,860 --> 01:20:05,180
prove that he got Chuck Ratner to laugh
on him. But you can't prove it.
1161
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:07,900
And what if you can't prove it? You
know, the DA's case against me is pretty
1162
01:20:07,900 --> 01:20:11,420
circumstantial, but it's, you know, some
strong circumstance. They got the maid
1163
01:20:11,420 --> 01:20:15,620
who overheard me arguing with Scott
Asin. They got my hankies stuffed in the
1164
01:20:15,620 --> 01:20:17,800
toilet. The jury likes you.
1165
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:21,540
Really, do they? I think juror number
eight has a crush on you.
1166
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,160
That's very funny.
1167
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,320
No, honestly.
1168
01:20:30,980 --> 01:20:33,500
Was juror number eight the blonde or the
brunette?
1169
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:35,080
Um...
1170
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:37,040
What do people need with all this stuff?
1171
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,340
Who uses bath gel or shower caps? When
was the last time you wore a shower cap?
1172
01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:48,540
How long was Scott Aspin in this room?
1173
01:20:49,180 --> 01:20:53,600
Oh, uh, since about noon on the day he
died. They gave him a new room when he
1174
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:54,600
got back from Florida.
1175
01:20:56,300 --> 01:21:01,720
Call housekeeping and ask them if a
little sewing kit comes in these
1176
01:21:02,140 --> 01:21:04,380
Sewing kit? Yeah. Call them and ask
them.
1177
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:12,360
I had drinks with Mr. Herman that night,
but I left around 7.
1178
01:21:14,020 --> 01:21:17,880
Before, under oath, you said you left
around 8 .30.
1179
01:21:19,140 --> 01:21:20,140
Yes, sir, I know.
1180
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,040
Mr. Herman told me to.
1181
01:21:23,460 --> 01:21:25,220
He threatened to cut off my pension.
1182
01:21:25,920 --> 01:21:28,720
Without it, I can't care for my son.
1183
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:30,520
So I lied.
1184
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:32,980
I see.
1185
01:21:34,380 --> 01:21:39,910
One more thing. Do you happen to
remember what... Mr. Herman was wearing
1186
01:21:39,910 --> 01:21:41,330
evening? Oh, gosh.
1187
01:21:42,170 --> 01:21:49,150
I think he was wearing light brown pants
and a yellow striped
1188
01:21:49,150 --> 01:21:50,150
shirt.
1189
01:21:50,330 --> 01:21:51,330
No jacket?
1190
01:21:52,050 --> 01:21:54,570
It was warm that night. I wouldn't wear
any jacket either.
1191
01:21:55,090 --> 01:21:57,330
No more questions.
1192
01:21:58,430 --> 01:22:02,930
I understand you've been indicted for
fraud, Mr. Herman. I've been indicted,
1193
01:22:02,990 --> 01:22:05,350
yes. Well, I'm going to ask you some
questions.
1194
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,780
Some of it has to do with fraud.
1195
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,140
Now, there's a large cast of characters,
like they used to say about the movies,
1196
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,260
cast of thousands.
1197
01:22:13,940 --> 01:22:19,280
So you think carefully before you answer
so you don't, you know, wind up in
1198
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:20,280
trouble. You ready?
1199
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:26,820
Was Cameron Ivers interested in buying
your business?
1200
01:22:27,180 --> 01:22:28,760
He never talked to me about it.
1201
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:34,620
I hear that he was the kind of fellow
that when he took over a company... He
1202
01:22:34,620 --> 01:22:37,580
went through that thing with a fine
-tooth comb. Is that right?
1203
01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:43,080
I suppose. So if there'd been any fraud
going on at Asheville Life, he'd have
1204
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:43,959
found it, wouldn't he?
1205
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:44,960
I wouldn't know.
1206
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:46,960
Oh, come on, Mr. Herman.
1207
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,620
I'm talking major fraud.
1208
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:56,260
What if Mr. Ivers found out that you
were creating fake life insurance
1209
01:22:56,260 --> 01:22:59,580
policies and selling them to other
insurance companies?
1210
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:02,520
And what if he found out that you were
creating...
1211
01:23:03,020 --> 01:23:04,460
Fake death certificates.
1212
01:23:04,700 --> 01:23:09,520
And then collecting all the death
benefits from these other companies for
1213
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:10,520
yourself.
1214
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:16,180
That's a scheme amounting to hundreds of
millions of dollars. What if he found
1215
01:23:16,180 --> 01:23:17,180
out about that?
1216
01:23:18,460 --> 01:23:20,660
I refuse to answer that.
1217
01:23:20,900 --> 01:23:22,460
I don't blame you.
1218
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:25,720
Are you following all this?
1219
01:23:26,740 --> 01:23:28,600
If Craig Browning had thrown Mr.
1220
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:30,900
Ivers' case when Mr. Ivers had gone
to...
1221
01:23:31,130 --> 01:23:32,730
Jail, and that'd probably been the end
of it.
1222
01:23:33,970 --> 01:23:35,610
But he didn't throw his case.
1223
01:23:36,530 --> 01:23:37,790
He didn't go to jail.
1224
01:23:39,090 --> 01:23:46,050
What he did, Greg Browning got my
associate, Cliff Lewis, to intercede for
1225
01:23:46,050 --> 01:23:51,970
and go to a meeting at a bar with this
private investigator about this
1226
01:23:51,970 --> 01:23:58,670
business. He met him. He had him
followed. He got pictures of Mr. Astin,
1227
01:23:58,870 --> 01:24:00,090
Robinson, Mr. Reeves.
1228
01:24:00,620 --> 01:24:03,760
He went up to Ashton's hotel room and
confronted him.
1229
01:24:04,580 --> 01:24:08,340
He said, you take my man down, I'll take
your man down.
1230
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:10,860
Cliff was thrown out of the room.
1231
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:18,860
Sometime later, about, oh, 10 o 'clock,
a maid that worked there at the hotel
1232
01:24:18,860 --> 01:24:21,040
discovered Mr.
1233
01:24:21,260 --> 01:24:22,260
Ashton's body.
1234
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:23,860
There'd been a fight.
1235
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,660
He was dead. Hit over the head with a
bottle of champagne.
1236
01:24:27,100 --> 01:24:28,380
Dinner was knocked over.
1237
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,100
Stuff all over the floor is a mess.
1238
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:38,240
And then she remembered Cliff pounding
on Mr.
1239
01:24:38,420 --> 01:24:41,540
Astin's door, shouting to be let in.
1240
01:24:42,780 --> 01:24:47,380
Then they found Cliff's handkerchief.
Somebody tried to flush it down a
1241
01:24:47,580 --> 01:24:53,060
The upshot of it is the police charged
Cliff with Scott Astin's murder.
1242
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,300
But I know this man.
1243
01:24:57,770 --> 01:24:58,810
He didn't do it.
1244
01:25:00,390 --> 01:25:05,090
What he did, he went the extra mile for
his client.
1245
01:25:05,490 --> 01:25:11,750
He respected lawyer -client
confidentiality, and I respect him for
1246
01:25:12,830 --> 01:25:14,050
He didn't do it.
1247
01:25:20,010 --> 01:25:21,010
You did.
1248
01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:26,810
You're out of your mind.
1249
01:25:29,390 --> 01:25:31,710
Remember your ex -employee, Chuck
Ratner?
1250
01:25:33,270 --> 01:25:38,570
He called you, met you at your club,
told you that Scott Astin was about to
1251
01:25:38,570 --> 01:25:42,270
out about your fraud. You knew you had
to do something, and now.
1252
01:25:42,650 --> 01:25:45,110
So you went up to his room and did it,
didn't you?
1253
01:25:46,190 --> 01:25:47,190
No.
1254
01:25:49,030 --> 01:25:55,090
Mr. Ratner just testified that you
bullied him into perjuring himself by
1255
01:25:55,090 --> 01:25:58,130
that you were with him at the time of
the murder.
1256
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,220
I did it because I knew the truth would
make me look bad.
1257
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:04,900
What kind of truth?
1258
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:10,440
I left the club and I walked around for
a couple of hours. I needed time to
1259
01:26:10,440 --> 01:26:15,560
think. And when it became apparent that
I'd be better off with an alibi, I asked
1260
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,200
Chuck to give me one.
1261
01:26:17,500 --> 01:26:22,520
Would you say his description of what
you were wearing that evening was pretty
1262
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:24,480
great? I don't remember what I was
wearing.
1263
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,660
Well, could you have been wearing these?
1264
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:34,260
Yes, those are mine. Yeah, those are
yours.
1265
01:26:34,980 --> 01:26:37,480
The police got them, with Warren, of
course.
1266
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:43,620
Cliff and I were looking around the
scene of the crime, trying to, you know,
1267
01:26:43,620 --> 01:26:44,880
what we could find.
1268
01:26:45,980 --> 01:26:51,460
What we couldn't find were those little
sewing kits that housekeeping puts in
1269
01:26:51,460 --> 01:26:52,460
all the rooms.
1270
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,640
You know where I'm heading, don't you?
1271
01:26:56,260 --> 01:26:57,920
No, no, no, I don't.
1272
01:26:58,500 --> 01:27:02,080
Well, like I said before, There was a
fight.
1273
01:27:03,220 --> 01:27:09,620
And this... This man, I'm sure, was
doing all he could do to save his life.
1274
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:14,820
I bet grabbing at anything he could,
even the killer's shirt, huh?
1275
01:27:15,260 --> 01:27:19,800
Rich man couldn't go out on the street
with his hair all messed up like that
1276
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,320
after a fight, with his shirt hanging
half off of him.
1277
01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:28,540
Couldn't go home to his wife like that,
could he? Your Honor, this is
1278
01:27:28,540 --> 01:27:29,540
preposterous.
1279
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,940
Yes, ma 'am. We'll cut to the chase.
1280
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:34,880
Now, there was a fight.
1281
01:27:35,860 --> 01:27:39,080
He was strong, but you were younger.
1282
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:41,500
And you won the fight.
1283
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,840
And you killed him.
1284
01:27:44,540 --> 01:27:47,080
And you hit him over the head with this
champagne bottle.
1285
01:27:48,140 --> 01:27:52,160
And then you grabbed a handkerchief off
the dresser.
1286
01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:53,520
Cliff's handkerchief.
1287
01:27:53,820 --> 01:27:55,180
Wiped the blood off your hands.
1288
01:27:55,800 --> 01:27:58,800
Then you went in the bathroom, tried to
flush it down the toilet.
1289
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:06,620
Then you saw the sewing kit, and you
used it to sew the buttons that had
1290
01:28:06,620 --> 01:28:10,840
been torn off back onto your shirt
before you went outside, didn't you?
1291
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:18,060
No. Okay, here we have it. When the
police forensics got done with this
1292
01:28:18,220 --> 01:28:24,480
they found that not only was the thread
that were holding these three buttons on
1293
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:29,510
the shirt different from the thread
holding the other buttons, But it was
1294
01:28:29,510 --> 01:28:35,090
identical in weight and dye lot to the
thread in this little sewing kit.
1295
01:28:39,950 --> 01:28:42,090
You know, this is really something.
1296
01:28:44,030 --> 01:28:49,890
Here's a man who dealt with millions of
dollars every day.
1297
01:28:50,110 --> 01:28:53,510
A lot of it is illegal, but millions of
dollars.
1298
01:28:55,870 --> 01:28:58,270
Often there's just a little mistake.
1299
01:28:59,850 --> 01:29:05,470
And one piece of thread, worth a
1300
01:29:05,470 --> 01:29:12,350
penny, two at the most, ties you
1301
01:29:12,350 --> 01:29:15,870
to Scott Astin's death for as long as
you might live.
1302
01:29:21,830 --> 01:29:24,470
Thank you, Your Honor. That's all.
1303
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:34,760
They mourn that a maid forlorn with her
sweetheart by her side.
1304
01:29:35,900 --> 01:29:40,200
Through the window pane, she looked at
the rain.
1305
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:44,560
We must stay home, Joe, she cried.
1306
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:51,800
There's a picnic, too, at the old Point
View.
1307
01:29:52,580 --> 01:29:55,800
It's a shame it rained today.
1308
01:30:26,460 --> 01:30:27,520
They're so wonderful.
1309
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,260
They still got it.
1310
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:33,000
Ben sounds a lot better with them than
he ever did by himself.
1311
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:36,740
I can't believe he still fits in a
costume.
1312
01:30:37,340 --> 01:30:38,540
He had it let out.
1313
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:40,520
How do you know?
1314
01:30:40,700 --> 01:30:42,240
Heard him talking to his tailor.
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