All language subtitles for matlock_s06e05_the_marriage_counselor

Joe, I'm certain you know how difficult
it must have been for Ginny to tell you

that your lovemaking, well, bores her.

Difficult for her? What about me?

Well, we've made a real breakthrough
here.

Next time, we'll build on it.

Ginny, hug Joe.

Kiss Ginny.

Don't start snoring.

Really, your humor, Joe, is marvelous.

And Ginny's honesty?

Well, I have to say, you kids make one
heck of a couple.

Now, I know you probably don't realize
this, but there was an awful lot of love

in this room.

See what I'm saying?

I'm having a crisis, Doctor.

I need your help.

No, Laura. Not here.

Laura, not now.

I checked your book.

You're clear for three hours.

No, stop it.

Someone might come in.

My place?

In 20 minutes?

Okay, Ben. Here we go. Your life
insurance needs.

Now, are you aware that your coverage
should provide one to seven times your

annual income?

Not to mention your estate liquidity.

Ben, you made a bundle since my last
review. You're going to need additional

coverage. But remember, I'm not selling
insurance.

I'm selling peace of mind.

How can you sleep knowing your assets
are uncovered?

I didn't know they were.

Do you have a copy of your parent
policy? We'll go over it line by line.

know, I might even have one in here. No,
I've got mine. I've got mine.

You stay here and keep talking.

I think I saw it in here yesterday.

Please, dear God, cut his tongue out.

You want to maximize your retirement
benefits, Ben.

Then there's our new disability
coverage.

Chronic illness and severe injury can
strike men in your age group every day.

With our policy, you can break every
bone in your body. Even lose your

My members?

Arms, legs, you know.

Members? Well, you can go deaf, dumb,
and blind and get paid for it.

My member?

How's your wife?

Oh, uh, Laura?

She's great.

Well, actually, we've been having a
little trouble. Started seeing a

counselor. Dr. Fletcher, terrific guy.
He got right to the heart of the

You see, Ben, Laura needs to talk about
her feelings. And I, well, I have

trouble expressing myself.

You do?

Oh,

you

were wonderful. full -hearted.

Do you love me?

Can't you tell?

What was that?

It's Alan.

Aren't you supposed to be in your group
session at the clinic?

Aren't you supposed to be selling
insurance?

Well, I did.

Ben Matlock just bought and bought and
bought.

Why aren't you dressed?

I'm...

H .F.? H .F.? Harding Fletcher?

Laura?

Laura?

Laura? What is it?

Harding Fletcher.

I can explain.

I only tried it once.

You only tried it once?

Tobacco.

Wait, wait. I'm spending a fortune on a
therapist so you can try his tobacco?

He's saving our marriage. He's sleeping
with my wife.

Where are you going?

Where a crazy person goes. See a shrink.

Fletcher. Alan?

You've been sleeping with my wife.

Alan, what are you talking about? You
know doggone well what I'm talking

You've been sleeping with my wife. I
found this under the bed.

What a breakthrough, Alan.

What? You finally confronted the rage
you have against your father.

Oh, come on. And even in this bizarre
situation, you are expressing it.

Bravo. You've been sleeping with my
wife. This calls for a private session.

Yeah, well, you got that right.

No, Tuesday is no good. Thursday, 6 .30
p .m.? Yeah, 6 .30, yeah. Here, I hope

you get cancer.

That's good. No, that is very good.
Anger, anger.

Now, this is what I want you to do.

Hold on to that thought until I see you
Thursday.

Next Wednesday, we'll begin divorce
counseling.

Marshal.

No, no, no, wait a minute.

Doesn't look too good for me, does it?

You came flying out of an office where a
man had just been murdered and then ran

from the security guard. Could be worse,
but I don't know how.

Well, what about that guy that was there
just after me? Maybe he killed

Fletcher. A fellow named Turner.

The guard already verified that Dr.
Fletcher was alive when he left.

So I guess I'm the main suspect.

You're the only suspect, Alan.

Look at this arrest report.

What?

They read you your rights.

Told you you didn't have to say
anything.

Told you that whatever you said would be
used against you. Yeah, I remember

that. The officer even asked me if I
understood what he was saying. It's

he couldn't believe what you were
saying.

You told him that Dr. Fletcher was
having an affair with your wife and you

into his office furious and had words
with him and now they're using what you

said against you. I don't know why I
said all that.

Alan, your mouth is a big... Problem?
Just when I'm nervous.

You're nervous 25 hours a day.

Why did you panic and run?

When I saw Dr. Fletcher dead, I
remembered this insurance seminar on

where it was pointed out that after the
scene of a shooting, the culprit is

often still lying in wait. I remember
this clearly because it was either late

May or early June of 87. Maybe it was
88, but it was right after I was

Alan!

Who's there?

When you burst into the doctor's office?
A couple in session and a woman in the

waiting room. And they're the only ones
who knew that you were coming back on

Thursday at 6 .30?

Yeah, and Laura.

You told Laura?

You're not going to take my case, are
you?

Boys, I don't want to.

I guess you will.

You will?

Yeah, as aggravating as you are, you
couldn't kill anybody unless you bored

to death.

I'll make bail.

How are you going to pay me?

Oh, I don't know.

Selling insurance policies.

It'll take a car loan.

was worried about you.

Thanks for posting bail.

You could have just sent some tobacco
over.

Alan, I know you're upset. It's okay if
you take it out on me. Well, that's

hostile. You're hostile.

Oh, I'm not hostile. Hold it. Hold it.
Hold it. I'm hurt, but I'm not hostile.

Hold it.

What's the matter with you?

You're about to go on trial for murder
and all you can think about is being

and hostile and fighting with your wife.
Now stop it. But I... Stop it!

I want to ask you some questions alone.

But I... Alone?

Okay.

I'm not hostile.

I'm hurt, but I'm not hostile.

Did you have an affair with Harding
Fletcher?

No.

Of course you wouldn't tell me if you
did.

Of course I would.

You're Alan's lawyer. I can't help Alan
if I don't tell you the truth.

You want to help Alan?

Of course.

My relationship with Harding Fletcher
was strictly professional.

He was a wonderful therapist, warm and
caring and empathetic.

Alan doesn't share your opinion.

I was at a For Wives Only seminar at the
clinic the night Harding died.

You should have seen the outpouring of
feelings. It was amazing.

Anything else?

Alan, be nice to Alan.

No yelling, no fighting until this
thing's over.

I understand.

Alan arrested for murder.

Well, he's under a terrible strain.

I'll be very supportive, Mr. Matlock.

He needs to concentrate on what's
important.

His trial.

Yeah, his trial.

And insurance.

He needs to sell insurance. A lot of
insurance.

Why didn't anybody hear the shots?

Oh, all the rooms in the clinic are
soundproofed.

Oh, well, I guess that makes sense.

Well, you know, these people paid this
Dr. Fletcher a lot of money to have him

listen to them scream at each other.

That's how they worked out their
differences.

Do you believe that?

I don't know.

You know, my parents did that.

Yeah, they'd have a fight, and he'd slam
out the door, and an hour later he'd be

back bringing her some ice cream.

Who needs a doctor, huh? I guess that
makes sense. You know, Dr. Fletcher had

lot of patients, so where are his files
and his notes?

Well, uh, we didn't find any. Not one
note.

Hmm. No note.

Hmm.

Oh, yeah.

No,

no. No.

Doctor.

Uh, Relkin, I'm Ben Matlock.

Oh, yes.

You're Alan Corning's attorney.

How may I help you?

Tell him to stop that.

See you on Thursday, Fred.

Sorry. They think you're a new patient,
and they're welcoming you to the group.

No, I don't think I'd fit in.

I just want to ask a couple of
questions.

You heard that Alan Corning broke into
Dr. Fletcher's office a few days before

the murder.

Everyone knew about that.

I understand there was a couple in
session and a woman in the waiting room.

Would you happen to know who they are?

I should. I keep a master appointment
list for billing purposes.

Let's see.

Dr. Fletcher's patients.

Here. The couple in session were the
Morell, Ginny and Joe.

And the next patient, the woman in the
waiting room, was Claudette Hertz.

Oh, see? The Morell's and Mrs. Hertz are
scheduled today.

Oh.

Thank you. My pleasure.

Is this a martial arts class?

No, this is therapy.

I heard that you and your husband knew
that Alan Corny was going to be in Dr.

Fletcher's office at 6 .30 the night of
the murder. Correct?

Yes, okay. We knew that he had an
appointment with Dr.

Fletcher. If we'd only known that he was
going to murder Dr.

Fletcher, Joe would have never...

I would not have gone to the For Wives
Only seminar.

I mean, Dr.

Fletcher saved our marriage, Mr.
Matlock, and I don't know what we're

do without him. Well, maybe you'll find
another Dr.

Fletcher. There's only one Dr.

Fletcher.

Well, just keep plenty of these things
and just kick the living.

It's primal screaming.

Oh, oh, oh.

Does your husband scream with you?

My husband's gone.

Oh, I'm sorry. How old was he? He's not
dead. We're divorcing.

Dr.

Fletcher showed us that we didn't belong
together.

So we parted.

But Dr. Fletcher stood by me.

He gave me strength, support, self
-esteem.

I have to ask you. No, don't do that. I
have to. No, you can't. I'm asked.

I have to ask you where you were.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I don't mean to
upset you.

Can we stop screaming? It's starting to
hurt my throat.

I was at the Y's only seminar.

Thank you for sharing.

Ben,

I just got the doctor to pledge his
health.

Yeah, I'll let you know what I find.

Bye.

And when I got to Dr. Fletcher's house,
I knew someone was already there.

And sure enough, out comes this blonde
carrying a leather and rhinestone jacket

and a diamond bracelet.

Blonde, huh? Yeah. Uh, yay tall,
beautiful, haircut to about here.

That's Laura, Alan's wife.

Right.

So then I followed her to this fancy
apartment where this great -looking

brunette comes to the door.

Kind of curvy?

Yeah. That's Claudette Hirsch. Then
what?

Then the tall blonde gave the diamond
bracelet to the curvy brunette.

Then what?

That's it.

Now what?

I like Dr.

Blonde.

How did you know I was at Dr. Fletcher's
house?

You were having me followed.

Well, certainly.

What was going on between you and Dr.
Fletcher?

I already told you.

Nothing. I don't believe you.

Then why don't you tell me?

I think you and Dr. Fletcher were having
an affair.

And you took the incriminating evidence
from his house. A jacket and a bracelet.

I'm not talking to you, Mr. Mellon. Then
I'll just talk to your husband.

You would tell Alan?

Most certainly.

I have to be honest with him that Alan
already knows.

All right.

I was having an affair with Harding
Fletcher.

I was feeling alienated and vulnerable.

And Harding had a need to nurture.

Do you understand?

Sure, you were hot for each other.

The affair was a mistake.

I love Alan. I wouldn't want to hurt
him.

So I went to Harding's place and got my
things.

You took a jacket and a bracelet from
his place and then went to Claudette

Hurt's apartment and gave her the
bracelet. Why would you do that?

Claudette's a dear friend of mine, and
the bracelet had sad memories for me, so

I gave it to her.

Well, if you and Claudette are such dear
friends, why didn't Alan recognize her

in the waiting room?

Claudette and I became friends at a
woman's group.

Alan never met her.

Okay.

I know you have to defend him, but you
don't have to cause him any additional

pain. You don't have to tell him.

Well, Alan... Well, we'll see.

Here you go. Oh, thank you.

Oh, that's a beautiful bracelet.

Yes, it is. Nice of Laura to give it to
you. How many carats?

Five -something.

Women don't give other women $10 ,000
bracelets.

Actually, she just loaned it to me.

Oh.

Well, that doesn't make sense either.

I mean, if she didn't want to wear it or
even look at it, it's too valuable. She

would have put it away or...

Like in a safety deposit box.

Unless it's yours.

What are you talking about?

Well, suppose you left that bracelet at
Dr. Fletcher's house and Laura picked it

up for you when she went to get her
jacket.

I've never been to Dr. Fletcher's house.

And I resent the insinuation.

Well, I'm sure you do.

But when things don't make sense to me,
like Laura giving you that brace that

aren't loaning it to you, then my mind
goes to explanations that do make sense.

I'll show you out, Mr. Matlock.

Okay.

Oh, that's a shame.

Something wrong?

I've got a carpet cleaner that can lift
that right out of your rug.

I've already called one.

Oh, good.

Have a nice day.

Laura Corning and Claudette Hertz both
lied to me.

Both of them? Yeah.

Laura Corning had an affair with Dr.

Fletcher.

Oh.

Alan's wife was having an affair with
her marriage counselor.

Yeah. And I'm sure that Claudette Hertz
did too, but she wouldn't admit it.

Wow.

Dr. Fletcher knew about what comes
naturally.

Yeah. He was giving out a little more
than advice, wasn't he?

So I guess one of the ladies figured it
out and... You think that's what

happened? They both lied to me, Conrad,
about everything. So I expect they lied

about their alibis.

Doing what comes naturally with two?

Put a man on thin ice.

Yeah.

How about tomorrow we stop by that
marriage counseling place?

So good to see you, Mr. Matlock. Conrad,
this is Dr. Relkin.

You're no stranger to hugging.

No, I'm not. Everybody in my family hugs
everybody else all the time.

How healthy. How wonderful.

Has your family always hugged, or was
there a significant event that

precipitated the behavior?

Well, let me see.

While Conrad tries to remember, I'd like
to ask some questions.

Laura Corning and Claudette Hertz.

said that they were in your For Wives
Only seminar at the time Dr.

Fletcher was murdered. Is that your
recollection?

That seminar was packed.

I was worried I hadn't mimeoed enough
questionnaires to go around, but I

definitely remember seeing Claudette and
Laura there.

If you gentlemen will excuse me, I have
to start a group session.

Oh, Doctor, we always hug.

Good. Yeah.

Good.

Very good.

See, man, hugging's why I grew up to be
so nice.

You fit right in here.

Where's the jacket?

What jacket?

That's the jacket I saw Laura Corning
carrying from Dr. Fletcher's house.

That's Jane Morrell.

That makes three of them. Three? Yeah.

Give me a minute.

You're wearing Laura Corning's jacket.

It's my jacket.

Laura told me she left that jacket at
Dr. Fletcher's house. I loaned it to

before Dr. Fletcher was murdered.

You sure you didn't leave it there
yourself?

And look, I spent four years and $50
,000 in therapy because my father was a

nosy old coot like you. So I'm not
answering any more of your questions,

Like it or lump it. Move.

I'm late for my sensitivity class.

Hi. Hi yourself.

How'd it go?

That woman you were so nice to just
called me Pops.

That's awful.

That's just awful, Pops.

I think that is her jacket, and I think
she left it at Dr. Fletcher's house.

You really think he was having affairs
with Three Winter?

Laura said he was nurturing.

I think he nurtured like a big bunny
rabbit.

One of them killed him.

Maybe each of them found out about the
others. Yeah.

A woman scorned.

More than that.

Three patients scorned and manipulated
in a very unethical way by a doctor who

had sworn to try to help them.

And all this jerk did was use them.

Doing what comes natural.

He did a little too well, didn't he?

like three times.

We're not going to find those notes.
Yeah, I guess you're right.

Might as well go. I got a feeling those
notes would make all the...

all the difference.

There's Dr.

Fletcher in his office.

Mrs. Murrell, you and your husband were
in marriage counseling with Dr.

Fletcher, correct?

Yes, we were. And you also saw him
alone?

No, only with Joe. You never once went
alone to his house?

No, of course not.

Do you deny that you left an expensive
jacket at his house?

I never left any jacket because I was
never there. Do you deny the jacket was

there?

No, I loaned the jacket to somebody. I
can only assume that she left it there.

Laura Corning?

Yes.

Mrs.

Morrell, is this your jacket?

Yes. It's very beautiful.

Very good. Very expensive.

Look at that.

What size would you say this is? Oh.

It's right here on the label, size 6.

Petite.

You're a very small woman, aren't you?

Petite. Of course.

You say you loaned this jacket to Laura
Corning?

Yes. Is Mrs. Corning in the courtroom
today?

Yes. Would you point her out, please?

Mrs. Corning, would you please stand up?

Thank you.

Miss Corning is a fairly tall lady.

A little larger than you. Why would she
borrow a jacket that was too small for

her?

I don't know.

Mrs. Corning didn't wear this jacket and
didn't leave it at Dr. Fletcher's

house. You must have. You were there and
you left the jacket, didn't you?

Objection. Your Honor, this is
irrelevant.

Sustained. Mr. Matlow. But, Your
Honor... Objection sustained.

Now, please move on.

No further questions.

Mrs. Corning, you and your husband were
in marriage counseling with the late Dr.

Fletcher. Is that correct?

Yes. And at the same time, you were
having an affair with the late Dr.

Fletcher, weren't you?

Yes.

And when you found out that Jenny
Murrell and Claudette Hertz were also

affairs with the late Dr.

Fletcher, did that make you feel angry
and deceived?

I don't know anything about Jenny or
Claudette. But if you're saying that I

jealous and killed him, I have witnessed
it. Oh, I know. You were at the For

Wives Only seminar.

But sometime after that, didn't you
break into Dr.

Fletcher's house and remove a... A
jacket and a bracelet?

I didn't break in. I had a key.

I don't get it.

You had a key.

You let yourself in to Dr. Fletcher's
house after the murder and removed a

jacket belonging to Mrs. Murrell and an
expensive bracelet belonging to

Claudette Hertz.

Why would you risk going back into that
house?

After the murder, to remove evidence
that obviously incriminated people other

than yourself.

Well, I wasn't sure that I had all of my
things out of there or not.

And so when I discovered that I had, I
found Jenny's jacket and

Claudette's bracelet. Well, they're very
dear friends of mine. I don't think

either one of them had an affair with
Dr. Fletcher.

And so I decided to remove their things,
you know, so they wouldn't be

compromised.

Oh, I see. I think.

But nothing further.

Mrs. Hertz, did you leave a diamond
bracelet at Dr. Fletcher's house?

You know I did.

Laura Corning says that she removed that
bracelet from his house so that you

wouldn't be compromised.

She said she did it out of her deep and
everlasting friendship with you and

Ginny Morell. Is that true?

Yes. The three of us are very close.

Yeah, well, you had a lot in common.

You were all having marital problems,
you were all in the clinic, and you were

all having affairs with Dr. Fletcher,
weren't you?

That's a lie.

You didn't know of one another's affairs
with him until the morning Alan Corning

came bursting into the office, yelling
at... the good doctor for fooling around

with his wife.

That's the day that you and Ginny
Morrell found out the doctor had been

on you, wasn't it?

That's absurd.

Did you feel a little angry when you
found out you'd been deceived?

I'm not stupid, Mr. Matlock. I know what
you were leading up to.

I did not kill Dr. Fletcher. I was at
the wives -only seminar. Yeah, yeah. The

three of you are each other's witnesses,
but somebody's lying.

Objection. Counsel has ceased asking
questions and begun ruminating.

Your Honor, the questions are coming. I
promise, they're coming, Your Honor.

Well, let's hear them then, Mr. Matlock.

Objection overruled. Thank you. Who
could be lying? Who killed Dr. Fletcher?

And it took me a while to figure it out,
but I finally realized the only

way I could know was to find Dr.

Fletcher's... Personal notes.

Now, you have any idea what happened to
those personal notes?

None at all.

Neither does anybody else, seemingly. I
looked for them and looked for them and

looked for them and I couldn't find
them.

But I finally, I finally figured out
where they had been.

In a safe in Dr. Fletcher's office.

Now, you know where that safe turned up?

I have no idea.

Huh. It was in your apartment, wasn't
it?

That's ridiculous. There's no safe in my
apartment.

No, no, no.

There's no safe in your apartment. Now.

It was.

Not now.

Now. It's here.

Thank you, Mr. McMaster. Your Honor,
could we mark this safe defense exhibit

Is this the safe that was in your
apartment?

I never saw it before.

And you were in my apartment. You didn't
see it there either. No, I didn't. I

didn't.

But I know it had been there.

You know how I know?

By the rust indentations on your brand
new rug. I got thinking, here you are in

a new apartment with a new rug, and yet
something had already been moved out.

Now, how did those rust indentations get
in your rug? I don't know. Dr. Fletcher

had the same rust indentations.

On a rug in the corner of his office.
See there?

See that?

See that?

Let's see. Let's mark this picture,
Defense Exhibit D.

It was hanging in Dr. Fletcher's office.
See, this is a picture of Dr. Fletcher,

his office furniture, including the
safe.

See?

There. Now, let's mark this photo.

Defense exhibit E, taken at the scene of
the crime after the murder.

Now, see, same office furniture, no
safe.

See?

No safe.

What happened to the safe, Mrs. Hertz?

I don't know what you're talking about.

Your building superintendent, Mr.

Anthony Giarelli.

You do remember slipping him $100 to get
that safe out of your apartment in a

hurry the day you found out I was coming
over for a visit, don't you?

No.

Well, Laura Corning called you and told
you, didn't she?

Absolutely not.

If I told you that Mr.

Giarelli's in the courtroom today, would
that improve your recollection? Would

you stand up, Mr. Giarelli?

Now, do you remember?

Not what you think.

You don't know what I think.

So I'll tell you.

I think you, Jenna Morrell, Laura
Corning, got together and realized

that Dr. Fletcher had probably kept
notes on his affairs with you.

Now, Jenna Morrell and Laura Corning
have husbands. That's bad enough, but

you're being divorced.

Looking for a nice settlement.

One word of your adultery got out, that
would hurt your cause pretty good,

wouldn't it?

I am still in the middle of a divorce. I
know, I know, I know. You have the most

to lose.

That's why I think you killed Dr.
Fletcher. You wanted to destroy those

but you didn't have time to open the
safe there.

So you took the safe to your apartment,
got it open, and destroyed the files,

didn't you? No, I told you. I was at the
Y's only seminar that night.

I know, I know.

You were there for a while, but you
left.

When everybody came back after coffee
break at the seminar, Dr. Aylkin

passed out these questionnaires.

Everybody filled them out and signed
them.

Your name appears nowhere on these
questionnaires. Why?

Dr. Rolkin must have lost it.

Miss Powell, You can remove the safe
now.

Dr. Aylkin told me that she picked up
and numbered all of these

Why isn't your name on there? Well, how
should I know? It could have fallen on

the floor.

Oh, I'm sorry. Probably you need help.
Could you...

Officer...

It's interesting.

It takes not one, not two, but three
women to move that safe.

You can put it down now, thank you.

You couldn't possibly have moved that
safe by yourself, could you?

It took three women to move that safe.

Dr. Fletcher was shot three times.

Three women killed him.

You, Jenny Murrell, Laura Corning. Your
Honor.

Besides your questionnaire?

But two other questionnaires are
missing.

Jenny Morrell and Laura Corning.

You left early, didn't you?

Went over to Dr. Fletcher's, killed him,
and then you removed the safe.

Objection, Your Honor.

Mr. Matlock. One more question.

Are you going to take the blame for this
murder alone, or are you going to admit

that what I just said really happened?

It's up to you, Mrs. Hertz.

I can't thank you enough, Ben. Just keep
selling insurance.

Well, I can't for a while.

Why the hell not?

You gotta understand, Ben. My wife was
deceiving me with her therapist, and

been tried for murder, and she did it.
My new therapist says that anyone else

would be dead from the stress, and I
will be, too, if I don't... What?

Go away for a while.

A long while.

Nature.

Don't get me wrong, Ben. I'll pay you.

Good. May take me years. Maybe the rest
of my life.

the rest of your life.

And people are living longer and longer.
I was at a seminar last year. No, wait,

two years ago. It was in June. No, wait,
July.

And they said that men are living into
their 90s. No, wait, wait, wait. Women

are living into their 90s. Men into
their 80s. And, you know, if you're a

-smoker like you, well, then, you know,
it's going to go on forever.

Yeah, you know, there was a very funny
story.