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[pensive music plays]
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[tense music playing]
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[tense music continues]
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[heart thumping]
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[music intensifies and stops]
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[beeps]
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So I want to say, at first,
I had to learn to survive,
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to be able to even stay
in the water with them.
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Um, and where most people, if
they were charged by a shark,
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they would have, like, gotten
the fuck out of the water…
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[laughs nervously]
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Clip this on the back.
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…because I stayed in the water after
being rushed by a shark, right?
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I was able to actually
observe natural behavior,
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and that's when I
started to learn
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shark language.
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[frantic music playing]
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[man 1] Everybody knows
who Ocean Ramsey is.
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[man 2, man 3] Ocean Ramsey.
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Ocean Ramsey.
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Fearless. Daredevil.
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[man 4] She's on the news.
It's going around the world.
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-Her name's Ocean?
-Her name is Ocean.
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[man 1] But nobody
knows about her story.
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[Ocean] I wanna explore.
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I wanna push the limits.
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It's like I'm made to do this.
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[music builds]
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[Ocean] The emotions and
the connection that I feel,
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it's overwhelming.
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This is what I'm alive for.
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I'm not a crazy person.
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I'm hyperaware of what
they're capable of.
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It's just that sharks are
the calling that I have.
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[man] This is breaking barriers.
Something could go wrong.
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[reporter] Believed to be the
largest great white shark on record
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anywhere in the world.
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[woman] She gets in the
water and asks the question,
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"Why should I be afraid?"
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["Waikiki Chickadee" by George
“Tautu” Archer and His Pagans plays]
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♪ I'd like to be ♪
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♪ I'd like to be ♪
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♪ With you ♪
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♪ My little chickadee ♪
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♪ Just with you ♪
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♪ 'Neath the skies of blue ♪
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♪ Holding hands ♪
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[Ocean] Growing up in Hawaii
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really shaped me as a person.
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[pensive music playing]
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Just looking out at the ocean
and the different colors
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and feeling the
power in the waves.
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I was actually kind of
a shy kid growing up.
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Very quiet. Very quiet.
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I was definitely much more drawn
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to just interacting with
animals out in nature
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rather than socializing with
other humans, truthfully.
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I was like a little wild child.
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[music continues]
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Being out in nature…
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Makes me feel connected
to something higher
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and greater than myself.
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The first time that I saw
a shark with my own eyes,
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I think I was maybe
seven or eight years old.
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[intriguing music playing]
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And it centers right below me.
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And so at that moment,
I have that choice.
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Do I follow it,
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or is this supposed to be
something that I'm afraid of?
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I swam after it
for a little bit.
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That's such a cool experience to have
and to have that natural fascination.
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And that fascination
has never left me.
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[alluring music playing]
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When I'm around them,
I feel most alive.
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And it's not an adrenaline rush.
It's a feeling of connection,
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where I feel the most myself.
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There's something so
magnetic for me about sharks.
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And I feel like that's because
that's what my life was meant for.
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It's my point and purpose.
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[music fades]
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[man] Photography was a passion
I developed through surfing.
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In the early stages of my life,
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I kind of thought that I would
become a surf photographer.
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Sadly, along the way,
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I realized that if I wanted to
make it as a surf photographer,
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I would have to give up
the best days of surfing
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in order to make money
photographing it, right?
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So I was like, "Ooh!" I
didn't really anticipate that.
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[grunts softly]
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But, as a surfer growing up in Hawaii,
I was petrified of sharks, right?
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I think I was like seven, eight.
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And there was a lot
of shark attacks.
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[reporter 1] Coming up, we'll tell
you about O'ahu's latest attack.
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[man] Shark came up
from underneath it.
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The shark hit him
twice, got his arm.
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You don't really feel that
comfortable out surfing.
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[somber music playing]
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[Juan] That fear spread
through the whole community
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and through my whole childhood.
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[reporter 2] Under pressure
from a nervous tourist industry,
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the state of Hawaii
launched a shark task force
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to deal with the attacks.
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The controversial decision was
made to start killing sharks.
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[Juan] And I was like, "The only
good shark is a dead shark."
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[somber music continues]
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I was down there,
Hale'iwa Harbor.
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They had the tiger sharks
sprawled out on the launch ramps.
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Like 20 or 30, and
cheering the fishermen on.
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I was just a scared little kid.
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Didn't really know any better.
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[people clamoring]
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It's sad that that
was my background
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up until I actually got
to go dive with one,
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and it was the opposite of
what I thought it would be.
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[music fades]
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A buddy of mine, we kind of
started doing dive charters…
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And trying to teach
people more about sharks.
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We kind of helped start the whole
cage tourism industry out here,
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which was a really hard
thing to do back in the day,
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because there was still so much
fear here in the community.
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Friends that wouldn't even talk
to me now because I like sharks.
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They're like, "You're bringing
the monsters to our hometown."
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I'm like, "They're not monsters.
And they were here before us."
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"We need to learn how
to coexist", right?
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So that… that was what, you
know, really kind of, um,
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really kind of set the
stage for me meeting Ocean.
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2006 is when I first met her.
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She was teaching scuba.
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I was a captain on a shark boat.
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[intriguing music playing]
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The first day, I remember she was like,
"If you want to get certified under me,
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you have to come with me and you
have to see sharks in the wild."
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"'Cause I want you to know
how sharks really are."
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And, um, I was instantly like,
"Oh my God, she's amazing." Right?
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[Ocean] So at the
time when we met,
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I was getting out of a
two-year relationship,
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and I really wanted
to be single.
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I was like, "Oh, she's not into
me. She's being super quiet."
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"She doesn't wanna talk
to me. She's not into me."
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[Ocean] I just… I need
to focus on the sharks.
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Sharks are the
calling that I have.
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Here in Hawaii, we have over
30 different species of shark.
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Most of them will swim away.
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[ominous music playing]
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But tiger sharks, they
definitely feel different.
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They're darker on the top
with these beautiful stripes.
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And they're gonna max out
usually around 18 feet in length.
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[tense music playing]
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They're so curious and
cognitive and aware.
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They can essentially
eat almost anything.
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[bird cawing]
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They can bite through
turtle shell and bone.
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[reporter] The body of
a 60-year-old woman…
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She didn't see the shark coming.
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And they're capable of short
bursts of incredible speed.
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[man shouts] Tiger shark!
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[Ocean] People are
so afraid of them.
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[tense music playing]
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And that fear comes from
a lack of understanding.
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[enigmatic music plays]
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[woman] Sharks have been around
at least 400 million years.
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[reporter] Sylvia is one of
the ocean's greatest defenders.
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This dedication has made her
a kind of underwater royalty,
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nicknamed Her Deepness.
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Sure we can't do this
underwater? [chuckles]
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They're a critical part of
what makes the ocean function.
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My name is Kim Holland.
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I'm a research professor at the
Hawai'i Institute of Marine Biology,
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and I founded the shark research
group here 40 years ago.
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Sharks have evolved in
this top predator role.
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If you take out the sharks,
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then you've put a ripple effect down
through the rest of the food chain.
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We need the ocean. We need
a healthy living ocean.
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We need all the
pieces to be working
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as they have worked long
before there even were humans.
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If we disturb that ecosystem,
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even if we don't know exactly what
our impacts are, it can't be good.
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One of the worst enemies
of sharks is ignorance.
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Because people, they have
that part of the story.
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[man] We don't have
the counterbalance.
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We have no understanding
of what their life is like.
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We have no understanding of the
struggles that they have to go through
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in their daily life.
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That would change the story.
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[indistinct background chatter]
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[Ocean] With Juan, what
really caught my attention
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was how he was
talking about sharks.
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I could hear the passion
that he had for them.
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And up until that point,
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I had never met another person
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that was saying those things.
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It caught my heart.
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[Juan] Yeah, I'm ready.
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[Ocean] And then we were just going
diving together every single day.
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[Juan] She's like this
beautiful wild animal…
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That's trying to
live life as a human.
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Just gotta try and keep up.
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[Ocean] It was cool with Juan.
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It was like, "We could do
this all day, every day."
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And he was, like, as
obsessed as I was, I think.
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[joyful music playing]
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[Juan] Back then, she was
like, "I wanna see sharks."
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All the time.
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That became like an
obsession almost.
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[music fades]
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[Ocean] But here in Hawaii,
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tiger sharks are the one that
humans are most concerned with,
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given how powerful that they are,
how quickly they could take life.
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[dramatic music plays]
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I don't think people realize
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how much time was put
into identifying the areas
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where we can
guarantee to see them.
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Literally thousands
of drift dives…
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From season to season to season,
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marking on the GPS every
time we would see a shark…
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And what species,
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how many.
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[soft music playing]
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After finding progressively
more and more sharks…
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Eventually, we found pretty
much the damn near perfect site.
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The strong convergent
currents are
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probably the biggest driver
of why the sharks are there.
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The current is converging
at that specific point
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because of the bottom
contour of the ocean,
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as well as the
contour of the land.
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People thought that you needed a
cage because sharks were dangerous.
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But the changemakers are the ones that
try something a little different, right?
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[pensive music playing]
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I wanna prove to the world
that they're not monsters.
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That is what I wanna prove.
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[breathing shakily]
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[Juan] I'll be honest,
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I had nerves. I wasn't, like,
you know, expressing them,
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even though I was a little
uncomfortable at times, for sure.
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But Ocean is definitely, you know,
alpha position in our relationship.
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And I have no problem with that.
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She had the lead on it, right?
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I'm just gonna film.
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[suspenseful music plays]
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[Ocean] They've got thicker skin,
sharper teeth and they can out swim me.
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How do I not get
caught off guard?
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Everything goes so fast.
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I'm literally, at that moment,
in front of a shark's mouth.
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And in my mind, it's just
like, "You gotta survive."
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I'm like, "Okay,
let's push down."
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[music continues]
247
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[Juan] Even though it
looked out of control to me,
248
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she always had this
control over the situation.
249
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[Ocean] I found that the
longer I stayed down there,
250
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the more that they would treat
me sort of like another shark.
251
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But every couple of minutes,
I'd pop up to breathe.
252
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I decided to increase
my breath hold
253
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in order to spend
more time with them.
254
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[gentle music plays]
255
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[Ocean] Free diving, if you're
spending time with sharks,
256
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it's so much better,
257
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because you're much more
like another marine animal
258
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and more agile.
259
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I've always had a natural
edge for free diving.
260
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But I wanted to better myself.
261
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When the urges to breathe come,
262
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and your initial thought is,
"Oh my gosh, I have to breathe,"
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you can train out of
that by just being like,
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"No. I realize, actually,
like, my body can go longer."
265
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[slow breathing]
266
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And it literally changed the way
that my brain interprets pain.
267
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[rousing music playing]
268
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I was constantly pushing myself.
269
00:20:10,584 --> 00:20:13,837
And it was the sharks
that drove me to do that.
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[exhaling]
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[mumbles]
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Now I can hold my breath for
over six and a half minutes.
273
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I would then get to watch them
interacting with one another,
274
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and that was when I got to see their
language and their communication.
275
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[intriguing music playing]
276
00:20:48,789 --> 00:20:51,291
There was something that
I read when I was younger.
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Somebody had studied
bees in a beehive
278
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and realized that they do a little
dance to communicate to one another.
279
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I think that was what
branched out in my mind.
280
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Sharks don't just
swim at random.
281
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There's actually
a lot of patterns.
282
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[electronic whirring]
283
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[electronic whirring]
284
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[Ocean] It was the patterns
of social hierarchy.
285
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Following or piggybacking.
286
00:21:50,726 --> 00:21:52,269
Interception or blocking.
287
00:21:56,315 --> 00:22:00,027
One of the most obvious ones
to me was parallel swimming.
288
00:22:02,946 --> 00:22:04,781
Two sharks line up side by side,
289
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:07,326
sizing each other up.
290
00:22:11,163 --> 00:22:15,459
And it's generally the larger shark
that's gonna take that higher position.
291
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Or occasionally, I would
see them actually turn over
292
00:22:23,383 --> 00:22:25,761
at that individual that's
sizing up with them.
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Like, "Hey, don't do that."
294
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Dropping its pectoral fins down.
295
00:22:50,619 --> 00:22:52,704
This is a little bit
of a threat display.
296
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I realized that if I'm tense
or nervous or stressed,
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whatever those emotions are,
they are reflected in your body,
298
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in small muscle movements.
299
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The sharks are so highly
evolved that they pick up on it.
300
00:23:13,225 --> 00:23:14,976
[stirring music playing]
301
00:23:16,186 --> 00:23:18,188
It feels like they're
reading your mind.
302
00:23:21,358 --> 00:23:24,736
If you can make your intentions
very clear in your mind,
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your muscles in your body
will sort of reflect that.
304
00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:29,866
[tense music playing]
305
00:23:30,742 --> 00:23:33,578
And it makes you look at
the world like a shark.
306
00:23:42,212 --> 00:23:45,674
Opening this door, it
really opened my eyes.
307
00:23:45,757 --> 00:23:47,759
[music softens]
308
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It wasn't until a
little while later
309
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I became more accustomed to
recognizing certain individuals.
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I didn't even realize like,
you know, "It's Nikki," yet.
311
00:24:19,082 --> 00:24:21,751
You know, we're not on a
"first-name basis" yet,
312
00:24:21,835 --> 00:24:23,044
but I recognize her.
313
00:24:23,128 --> 00:24:24,546
[pensive music playing]
314
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I remember some of the
scars that she had.
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Like, "Do you remember me?"
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"Is that you?"
317
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Kind of like waving at
a friend, like, "Hey."
318
00:24:45,942 --> 00:24:50,530
Sharks have a nictitating membrane,
which is actually their eyelid.
319
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And it folds up instead of down.
320
00:24:54,534 --> 00:24:56,453
They use it for protection.
321
00:24:59,498 --> 00:25:01,416
I love seeing them fight it.
322
00:25:02,250 --> 00:25:05,003
And, like, as they get close,
they wanna keep it open.
323
00:25:05,086 --> 00:25:06,379
And they wanna look.
324
00:25:14,471 --> 00:25:17,724
[Ocean] Nikki would come
up and then open her eyes
325
00:25:18,850 --> 00:25:20,352
and look at me.
326
00:25:23,605 --> 00:25:25,565
"Yeah, I see you."
You know what I mean?
327
00:25:31,112 --> 00:25:35,158
When the eye is lifted, it
just shows the level of trust.
328
00:25:37,327 --> 00:25:39,371
[Ocean] What if I
just put my hand out?
329
00:25:40,664 --> 00:25:43,458
And I'm just gonna adapt to
whatever she's giving me.
330
00:25:44,709 --> 00:25:46,336
And then Nikki responds to that.
331
00:25:52,467 --> 00:25:53,635
[whooshing]
332
00:25:58,181 --> 00:26:00,850
There's something going on
here that I can't explain.
333
00:26:00,934 --> 00:26:02,644
Like, they are communicating.
334
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:10,485
In that moment of contact,
there is so much said.
335
00:26:12,988 --> 00:26:14,614
Sharks have this sensory system
336
00:26:14,698 --> 00:26:18,326
where they can feel the electrical
output from living organisms.
337
00:26:18,910 --> 00:26:22,122
So she's literally
feeling who I am
338
00:26:22,205 --> 00:26:25,083
on a level that we
don't sense the world.
339
00:26:25,166 --> 00:26:26,543
[heart beating]
340
00:26:35,260 --> 00:26:37,721
Not everything
can be quantified.
341
00:26:40,682 --> 00:26:43,018
It doesn't mean that
it's not happening.
342
00:26:52,861 --> 00:26:56,406
[Juan] So at that point, I remember
I was getting really good images
343
00:26:56,489 --> 00:26:58,408
and, you know, trying
to get out there
344
00:27:00,035 --> 00:27:01,661
and get the message across.
345
00:27:04,581 --> 00:27:07,250
But still, the conversation
was, "Monster, monster."
346
00:27:07,334 --> 00:27:09,461
[ominous music playing]
347
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,549
But we just gotta change the music,
change the way we look at sharks.
348
00:27:16,217 --> 00:27:17,218
Flip the perception.
349
00:27:19,346 --> 00:27:21,348
[enigmatic music plays]
350
00:27:34,736 --> 00:27:36,946
[Juan] When I had
Ocean in the photos,
351
00:27:38,031 --> 00:27:40,450
it was, like, that key
component where they're like,
352
00:27:40,533 --> 00:27:41,993
"Why isn't she getting eaten?"
353
00:27:42,702 --> 00:27:44,704
[enigmatic music continues]
354
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:52,295
[Juan] From that
moment that I realized
355
00:27:52,379 --> 00:27:55,632
that human component of interacting
with sharks is the difference,
356
00:27:55,715 --> 00:27:58,843
that people can connect with and
really see sharks differently.
357
00:28:00,470 --> 00:28:02,681
[Ocean] "Oh my gosh, maybe
they're not like Jaws."
358
00:28:07,143 --> 00:28:11,731
[Juan] Since that moment, I've just filmed
every interaction that I possibly can.
359
00:28:15,694 --> 00:28:17,737
That was what I needed
to do every single day.
360
00:28:22,117 --> 00:28:25,286
-[Ocean] Putting yourself out there…
-[camera clicking]
361
00:28:25,787 --> 00:28:28,164
…is also just putting yourself
out there for criticism.
362
00:28:34,045 --> 00:28:37,757
I'm very nervous about this
whole Ocean Ramsey thing.
363
00:28:37,841 --> 00:28:39,217
In Hawaiian practice,
364
00:28:39,300 --> 00:28:42,470
you don't force yourself
onto something else.
365
00:28:42,554 --> 00:28:44,305
You allow something
to come to you.
366
00:28:45,932 --> 00:28:47,308
She's notorious for it.
367
00:28:48,101 --> 00:28:51,563
Everyone in the shark industry
knows who she is and what she does.
368
00:28:51,646 --> 00:28:53,982
[Kamu] More for the Gram
and more for the shot.
369
00:28:54,524 --> 00:28:57,485
People see that, they wanna be
part of it, it draws them in.
370
00:28:58,069 --> 00:28:59,863
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it.
371
00:28:59,946 --> 00:29:01,656
People don't listen
to us anyway…
372
00:29:01,740 --> 00:29:04,117
What are we even here for?
To pick up the pieces.
373
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,370
To do this and put it out to
masses and let people see that,
374
00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,664
it sends the wrong message.
375
00:29:10,248 --> 00:29:11,958
'Cause everybody
thinks they can do it.
376
00:29:12,041 --> 00:29:17,130
If a shark makes that connection with
you, that's, I think, a different story.
377
00:29:17,213 --> 00:29:22,135
I want to know you. I want to
feel you. I want to understand.
378
00:29:22,218 --> 00:29:26,389
Whatever reason you feel the need
to have your hand on this animal,
379
00:29:26,473 --> 00:29:29,768
you better understand what's going on
and what you're getting yourself into.
380
00:29:30,643 --> 00:29:34,898
[Brian] You watch Ocean and
Juan, they understand the shark.
381
00:29:36,316 --> 00:29:38,401
You won't find many
people like that.
382
00:29:39,027 --> 00:29:42,363
Understand in their mind and
their heart and being in sync.
383
00:29:42,447 --> 00:29:44,783
Not only with the
shark but in the ocean.
384
00:29:44,866 --> 00:29:49,496
To see this young woman at
peace with these big animals
385
00:29:49,579 --> 00:29:54,959
causes us to see through her
eyes, to see them differently.
386
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:59,506
I think that that's a very good way
to change the human perceptions.
387
00:29:59,589 --> 00:30:04,636
What they are trying to show is that we
don't have to be afraid of the animals.
388
00:30:04,719 --> 00:30:09,432
That's what they are really
trying to make people understand.
389
00:30:09,516 --> 00:30:11,226
She gets in the water and…
390
00:30:12,727 --> 00:30:16,773
And asks the question,
"Why should I be afraid?"
391
00:30:16,856 --> 00:30:19,317
Most of the time, you're
gonna get away with it,
392
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,236
but some of the
time, you're not.
393
00:30:29,786 --> 00:30:33,832
[Ocean] It's a weird line that we run
that's like, how do you find that balance
394
00:30:33,915 --> 00:30:37,669
between, you know, humanizing
and showing their personality
395
00:30:37,752 --> 00:30:40,630
and how incredible they are
and that they're not monsters?
396
00:30:40,713 --> 00:30:44,425
But then they're apex
predators, not puppies.
397
00:30:48,304 --> 00:30:49,722
And if it doesn't go well,
398
00:30:50,682 --> 00:30:52,684
it's on us. We're offshore.
399
00:30:52,767 --> 00:30:54,561
It's not like anyone
needs to know.
400
00:30:55,979 --> 00:30:57,230
We don't have kids.
401
00:30:57,730 --> 00:31:01,651
We don't really have anything that
we're risking except for our own lives.
402
00:31:03,945 --> 00:31:07,198
I'm good to go anytime.
Like, what is it?
403
00:31:07,282 --> 00:31:11,327
It's not the years in your life.
It's the life in your years.
404
00:31:11,411 --> 00:31:13,621
And I'm... Phew, wow, Shark.
405
00:31:13,705 --> 00:31:16,499
-[Juan] Sharkey can clear the room!
-You know how to clear a room.
406
00:31:16,583 --> 00:31:20,795
[Juan] He's like, "Oh yeah.
Remember me? Remember."
407
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,338
[laughs]
408
00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,716
[Ocean] I hope he doesn't
start to pick up on this,
409
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:27,886
that if he starts to do that,
I'll roll the window down.
410
00:31:27,969 --> 00:31:29,095
[Juan chuckles]
411
00:31:30,471 --> 00:31:33,141
-[Ocean] Fashionably on Aloha Time.
-[exclaiming]
412
00:31:33,224 --> 00:31:34,726
-[cheering]
-Yeah, guys!
413
00:31:34,809 --> 00:31:36,269
Sorry we're late!
414
00:31:36,352 --> 00:31:37,395
-[Juan grunts]
-[Ocean] Oh.
415
00:31:37,478 --> 00:31:40,940
Yeah. You're so big, every time!
416
00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:43,902
[Ocean] Look what I brought
you. They're shark tattoos.
417
00:31:43,985 --> 00:31:45,028
-Thank you!
-Yeah!
418
00:31:46,112 --> 00:31:48,239
So you can have a
tattoo like your dad.
419
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:54,787
So I was thinking we could make
these cute little shark bracelets.
420
00:31:54,871 --> 00:31:58,249
Wait, how did the
shark lose its teeth?
421
00:31:58,333 --> 00:32:01,419
So, sharks are so lucky. They
never have to go to the dentist.
422
00:32:01,502 --> 00:32:03,254
[man] I met Ocean and Juan,
423
00:32:03,338 --> 00:32:05,840
and I had just done this
little baby project with them.
424
00:32:05,924 --> 00:32:09,928
We went on one dive, and I think
I contacted them immediately.
425
00:32:10,011 --> 00:32:13,014
And I was like, "Hey,
I wanna do this again."
426
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,099
[tense music plays]
427
00:32:17,852 --> 00:32:21,230
When you are swimming
with a big shark,
428
00:32:23,566 --> 00:32:26,527
there is an energy and
there is a presence to it
429
00:32:26,611 --> 00:32:28,488
that's really
difficult to describe.
430
00:32:36,037 --> 00:32:39,374
You just realize that you're
swimming with something
431
00:32:39,457 --> 00:32:43,002
that's been around in some form
or another since before trees.
432
00:32:47,048 --> 00:32:49,133
You're swimming with a dinosaur.
433
00:32:49,217 --> 00:32:51,219
[majestic music playing]
434
00:33:00,269 --> 00:33:03,856
Ocean and Juan, they're
perfectly conditioned and skilled
435
00:33:03,940 --> 00:33:05,316
to do what they're doing.
436
00:33:07,485 --> 00:33:08,485
They live it.
437
00:33:12,865 --> 00:33:14,742
And I think it's
much more dangerous
438
00:33:14,826 --> 00:33:17,161
for a person who wouldn't
be able to live it.
439
00:33:18,037 --> 00:33:19,247
[muffled speech]
440
00:33:23,376 --> 00:33:25,878
[music intensifies]
441
00:33:27,338 --> 00:33:31,259
Phew, I would honestly say
I'm still scared every time.
442
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:33,344
[pensive music playing]
443
00:33:35,513 --> 00:33:37,598
[Ocean] It's really
important to be calm
444
00:33:38,141 --> 00:33:41,394
and to be a competent
predator in their presence.
445
00:33:43,021 --> 00:33:45,481
There's kind of no room
for weakness with them.
446
00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:52,780
But as I encounter a shark, I
don't know what their history is.
447
00:33:54,657 --> 00:33:57,243
I don't know what their
history is with humans.
448
00:33:58,619 --> 00:34:02,123
That is going to be a factor into
the way that they interact with me.
449
00:34:05,376 --> 00:34:06,461
[music fades]
450
00:34:06,544 --> 00:34:10,173
Oh gosh. There's like... Okay.
So Kalihi, Kalihi, Kalihi…
451
00:34:12,175 --> 00:34:13,342
[muffled] Hi, Kalihi!
452
00:34:14,177 --> 00:34:16,721
Kalihi means "the
edge" in Hawaiian.
453
00:34:16,804 --> 00:34:18,389
[intense music playing]
454
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,437
She came in as a juvenile,
very powerful juvenile.
455
00:34:26,689 --> 00:34:29,817
Watching her rush
up to anything.
456
00:34:29,901 --> 00:34:31,986
Bump. Bite.
457
00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:36,324
Wow.
458
00:34:36,407 --> 00:34:39,327
She's so much more
intense than the others.
459
00:34:43,706 --> 00:34:44,791
She's very smart.
460
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:52,840
Kalihi threw something
that I hadn't seen before.
461
00:34:54,467 --> 00:34:56,761
Coming up and like
chomping on the surface…
462
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:04,227
To create bubbles.
463
00:35:05,728 --> 00:35:07,605
So it'd be like
blind on the surface.
464
00:35:10,608 --> 00:35:13,152
She throws so many curve balls.
465
00:35:15,571 --> 00:35:19,367
The way that she would try and,
like, turn her body around,
466
00:35:20,952 --> 00:35:24,789
it was almost like she
had learned my methods.
467
00:35:24,872 --> 00:35:26,541
[tense music playing]
468
00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:27,708
I don't know how.
469
00:35:30,336 --> 00:35:32,463
[Juan] I knew that she
knew what she was doing.
470
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,507
And I wasn't gonna
second guess her.
471
00:35:34,590 --> 00:35:37,051
I was never gonna give
her any seed of doubt.
472
00:35:38,261 --> 00:35:39,804
[Ocean] It's not a video game.
473
00:35:42,849 --> 00:35:43,891
There's no pause.
474
00:35:53,442 --> 00:35:55,153
[Juan] She was
challenging Ocean.
475
00:35:55,236 --> 00:35:57,238
[sinister music playing]
476
00:36:05,621 --> 00:36:09,041
Accept the risks.
Acknowledge them and move on.
477
00:36:18,176 --> 00:36:20,094
[music fades]
478
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,055
[Ocean] All that time in the
water, the sharks were teaching me.
479
00:36:23,556 --> 00:36:25,975
They were shaping my
movements in the water
480
00:36:26,058 --> 00:36:28,186
the way that they
shape other animals.
481
00:36:28,811 --> 00:36:30,813
[ethereal music playing]
482
00:36:38,446 --> 00:36:42,617
[Ocean] They would approach
me from different angles.
483
00:36:56,631 --> 00:37:00,509
They would show me that they like to
use their countershading from below.
484
00:37:00,593 --> 00:37:02,595
[ethereal music continues]
485
00:37:11,062 --> 00:37:13,898
[Ocean] Those experiences
helped me learn to redirect.
486
00:37:15,316 --> 00:37:16,316
Pushing down.
487
00:37:18,361 --> 00:37:19,654
Locking at the elbow.
488
00:37:21,906 --> 00:37:23,908
[gentle string music playing]
489
00:37:31,207 --> 00:37:33,334
[Juan] It's almost
like a beautiful dance.
490
00:37:34,377 --> 00:37:37,880
If she wanted the sharks to come
closer, she would put her head down,
491
00:37:38,965 --> 00:37:40,091
tuck into a ball.
492
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:48,140
If you need more space, all you have
to do is go vertical, posture up.
493
00:37:50,101 --> 00:37:52,687
Be a little bit more direct
with that eye contact.
494
00:37:56,357 --> 00:38:00,069
So let them know, "Hey, I'm an
equal predator, and I'm aware."
495
00:38:04,156 --> 00:38:06,617
When you need to hold your
ground, you hold your ground.
496
00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,162
[string music continues]
497
00:38:14,875 --> 00:38:18,796
[Juan] She's so aware, just, like,
so knowledgeable about the animals.
498
00:38:26,846 --> 00:38:31,058
For me, behind the camera,
sometimes I get a little complacent.
499
00:38:33,477 --> 00:38:36,981
[Ocean] When you're looking through
a lens, it's sort of tunnel vision.
500
00:38:40,151 --> 00:38:41,819
I have to look out for him.
501
00:38:41,902 --> 00:38:43,904
[gentle music playing]
502
00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:00,004
[Juan] She's taught me so much.
503
00:39:03,090 --> 00:39:04,050
All the behaviors.
504
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:07,803
And then, this is how you do it
strategically to make it safe.
505
00:39:12,516 --> 00:39:16,187
Ocean's really made it more of
a… kind of, more of a science.
506
00:39:21,484 --> 00:39:23,235
[music fades]
507
00:39:23,319 --> 00:39:24,445
[inhales deeply]
508
00:39:37,041 --> 00:39:39,460
If you're on a long board, you're
less likely to get approached.
509
00:39:39,543 --> 00:39:42,630
If you're swimming with someone,
you're less likely to get approached.
510
00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:47,510
Minimizing splashing, minimizing anything
that can draw attention to yourself.
511
00:39:47,593 --> 00:39:48,844
I'm just gonna take a pause…
512
00:39:48,928 --> 00:39:51,972
Keeping humans separate
from sharks isn't a reality.
513
00:39:52,056 --> 00:39:54,559
There's gonna be a lot of people
that wanna swim, surf, and dive,
514
00:39:54,642 --> 00:39:56,268
and they're gonna
encounter sharks.
515
00:39:56,352 --> 00:39:57,395
I want people to be safe
516
00:39:57,478 --> 00:40:00,314
because when an accident happens,
that doesn't help my cause,
517
00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,149
that doesn't help
shark conservation,
518
00:40:02,233 --> 00:40:04,693
that doesn't help the
reputation of a shark.
519
00:40:04,777 --> 00:40:07,613
And so I feel a very
strong moral obligation
520
00:40:07,696 --> 00:40:12,159
to make sure that people stay safe and
that they are taught how to stay safe.
521
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:17,456
One of the things about shark
attacks is that in almost all cases,
522
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:22,711
the person attacked, um, never knew
that they were gonna be attacked.
523
00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:27,675
So they never had the chance
to take evasive action.
524
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:33,347
My perspective on what she does, it's
more for show than it is for science.
525
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:36,767
If you are a scientist or
you are not a scientist,
526
00:40:37,393 --> 00:40:40,354
that doesn't matter that
much. For me, what matters
527
00:40:40,438 --> 00:40:46,402
is the amount of time that
you spend with these animals.
528
00:40:46,485 --> 00:40:49,697
I think she probably has a strong
understanding of shark behavior
529
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:52,616
because of the time that she spent
in the water with these animals.
530
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:54,660
But in the actual
research community,
531
00:40:56,370 --> 00:40:57,997
she doesn't have any respect.
532
00:40:58,622 --> 00:41:00,249
It might seem to some that
533
00:41:00,332 --> 00:41:03,836
because she allows
herself to be photographed
534
00:41:03,919 --> 00:41:06,046
and tell her stories,
535
00:41:06,130 --> 00:41:08,424
that's not what
a scientist does.
536
00:41:09,216 --> 00:41:12,595
But what does a scientist
do except observe carefully
537
00:41:13,179 --> 00:41:15,139
and share the view?
538
00:41:20,102 --> 00:41:22,980
We've been doing the field ID
data sets for 15 years now.
539
00:41:23,063 --> 00:41:24,940
[pages turning]
540
00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:30,362
[ethereal music plays]
541
00:41:30,446 --> 00:41:33,199
[Ocean] And we've got 300
different sharks identified.
542
00:41:48,756 --> 00:41:50,925
To me, they're as unique,
543
00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,594
as individual,
544
00:41:54,970 --> 00:41:58,349
as important as any human being.
545
00:42:03,729 --> 00:42:06,524
[Juan] Me and Ocean started
working together in 2006.
546
00:42:07,066 --> 00:42:09,902
It was about five years in
when Roxy came into our lives.
547
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:14,114
The first time that we saw her,
548
00:42:14,615 --> 00:42:17,952
her jaw was freshly broken
and it looked horrible.
549
00:42:19,787 --> 00:42:22,122
I don't know. For me,
I could feel her pain.
550
00:42:23,457 --> 00:42:25,960
I could just see it in
the way she was swimming.
551
00:42:27,419 --> 00:42:30,297
And I remember getting
some footage of her.
552
00:42:30,381 --> 00:42:33,717
Everyone's like, "Oh my God. It's a
monster. It's disgustingly scary."
553
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:38,514
[Ocean] She's not the monster.
554
00:42:39,348 --> 00:42:42,893
The monster is the people
that did that to her.
555
00:42:48,857 --> 00:42:51,485
Imagine having your
jaw broken open.
556
00:42:53,696 --> 00:42:57,283
And imagine what that would
be like to try and eat.
557
00:43:02,913 --> 00:43:06,000
Her best chances of feeding
are really coming from
558
00:43:06,083 --> 00:43:08,836
fish that's already been
caught or is already dead,
559
00:43:09,837 --> 00:43:12,256
which is usually found
on a hook or in a net.
560
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:16,385
She has a lot
working against her.
561
00:43:16,468 --> 00:43:18,637
And then to have the
SAT tag on top of that…
562
00:43:20,514 --> 00:43:23,267
She gets entangled more
than any other animal
563
00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:24,435
because of that tag.
564
00:43:32,818 --> 00:43:35,779
[Juan] A lot of times, we remove fishing
line and stuff from other sharks,
565
00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:37,656
they just bolt off.
566
00:43:41,577 --> 00:43:45,122
But with Roxy, after so
many years of removing that,
567
00:43:45,205 --> 00:43:47,541
I definitely know
she recognizes us.
568
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:56,008
There's so much emotion
around her with me personally.
569
00:43:56,091 --> 00:43:58,093
[melancholy music playing]
570
00:43:59,595 --> 00:44:02,681
In 1999, I broke my back in
a rock climbing accident.
571
00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:07,770
The line snapped, I
fell like 50 feet.
572
00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:15,069
You know, and someone tells you you're
not gonna be able to walk again,
573
00:44:15,152 --> 00:44:17,821
like, hoo, that's a
game changer, right?
574
00:44:23,619 --> 00:44:25,371
Is it even worth going anymore?
575
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,082
[melancholy music continues]
576
00:44:31,418 --> 00:44:33,754
I spend so much time with Juan,
577
00:44:33,837 --> 00:44:37,841
and I see how much pain he's in,
like, with his back, constantly.
578
00:44:42,930 --> 00:44:47,726
And I feel that those two get each
other and connect on a different level
579
00:44:47,810 --> 00:44:50,646
because they're both constantly
struggling with pain.
580
00:44:53,524 --> 00:44:56,485
It's just beautiful to get to
see them interact together.
581
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:01,949
We're supposed to keep
the elbow locked, but…
582
00:45:10,124 --> 00:45:15,045
I feel so relaxed at times,
and I'll just let it bend.
583
00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:17,131
[light uplifting music plays]
584
00:45:57,629 --> 00:46:01,800
[Ocean] It's just baffling to me
the way that animals can be treated.
585
00:46:04,428 --> 00:46:06,680
It was really that moment
in time where you realize
586
00:46:07,264 --> 00:46:09,099
they really don't
have protection.
587
00:46:09,183 --> 00:46:13,479
Like, there were no legal repercussions
for just killing a shark here.
588
00:46:13,562 --> 00:46:15,564
[sinister music playing]
589
00:46:19,401 --> 00:46:23,739
Nearly 100 baby hammerhead
sharks found dead in Hawaii.
590
00:46:23,822 --> 00:46:27,868
These pups likely died after being
caught in a fisherman's gill net.
591
00:46:30,037 --> 00:46:32,581
[Ocean] They're not protected
from the wasteful killing.
592
00:46:36,668 --> 00:46:38,170
Things like shark fishing.
593
00:46:45,552 --> 00:46:47,554
[sinister music continues]
594
00:46:50,808 --> 00:46:53,936
Killing a shark,
like Roxy, right?
595
00:46:54,019 --> 00:46:56,814
Breaking their jaw out,
dragging them out of the water
596
00:46:57,314 --> 00:46:58,982
just to take a
picture with them.
597
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,362
[somber music playing]
598
00:47:10,577 --> 00:47:11,703
I feel…
599
00:47:16,250 --> 00:47:19,628
I'm not really that great
about, like, putting…
600
00:47:20,546 --> 00:47:22,673
Putting words to,
like, emotions.
601
00:47:23,841 --> 00:47:28,554
Of course, you feel heartbroken
about that. It's suffering.
602
00:47:29,888 --> 00:47:31,056
[mouse clicking]
603
00:47:33,058 --> 00:47:34,101
At this point,
604
00:47:35,769 --> 00:47:41,316
shark populations were down to fewer
than 10% for most large species.
605
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,278
[mouse clicking]
606
00:47:44,361 --> 00:47:47,698
[Ocean] All of them are headed
towards the brink of extinction.
607
00:47:47,781 --> 00:47:49,449
[mouse clicking frantically]
608
00:47:49,533 --> 00:47:52,452
[Ocean] Okay, so where are we?
609
00:47:52,536 --> 00:47:53,536
Here.
610
00:47:54,538 --> 00:47:57,124
[Ocean] And where
are we going to…
611
00:47:58,417 --> 00:47:59,417
Fish market.
612
00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,003
[somber music playing]
613
00:48:01,086 --> 00:48:05,591
[Ocean] And then when I realized
shark finning was going on…
614
00:48:08,510 --> 00:48:11,763
And that shark populations were
being decimated around the planet
615
00:48:11,847 --> 00:48:15,392
for this wasteful bowl of
soup, it lit a fire in me.
616
00:48:21,023 --> 00:48:22,190
Shark…
617
00:48:22,274 --> 00:48:24,443
Countries all around the
world are killing them,
618
00:48:24,526 --> 00:48:26,737
and it happens out of
sight and out of mind.
619
00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:30,657
-Do you know what kind of shark?
-[man] Huh?
620
00:48:30,741 --> 00:48:31,867
Is this the whale shark?
621
00:48:33,619 --> 00:48:37,664
Even if they weren't a keystone species,
super important for marine ecosystems,
622
00:48:37,748 --> 00:48:38,832
even if they weren't,
623
00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:41,793
just to kill an animal for
less than 2% of its body…
624
00:48:44,087 --> 00:48:46,506
Why would anyone do that
just for a bowl of soup?
625
00:48:46,590 --> 00:48:48,592
[man speaking indistinctly]
626
00:48:51,428 --> 00:48:53,347
[Juan] Where is the
biggest problem?
627
00:48:54,097 --> 00:48:57,142
The biggest problem I saw
straight in front of me was
628
00:48:57,225 --> 00:49:00,270
sharks being exterminated.
Okay, that's the problem.
629
00:49:00,354 --> 00:49:03,857
So how do you get that information
out? It's through visual imagery.
630
00:49:03,941 --> 00:49:05,943
[pensive music playing]
631
00:49:08,445 --> 00:49:10,072
[Ocean] I'll use my appearance.
632
00:49:12,115 --> 00:49:14,368
I'll put myself out
there for a cause.
633
00:49:14,451 --> 00:49:16,912
[motivational music playing]
634
00:49:18,246 --> 00:49:20,540
People look first
and listen second.
635
00:49:21,959 --> 00:49:23,377
Catching people's attention.
636
00:49:26,421 --> 00:49:29,675
And then being able to get
that good message through…
637
00:49:31,343 --> 00:49:33,637
Is something that I
definitely aim for.
638
00:49:34,221 --> 00:49:36,682
This is small-scale.
This is every single day.
639
00:49:41,228 --> 00:49:43,939
With those images, you
could actually reach
640
00:49:44,022 --> 00:49:45,816
so many more people
641
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,527
than any of the other
things that we've done.
642
00:49:50,404 --> 00:49:53,198
It's an opportunity to
reach the entire public.
643
00:49:53,281 --> 00:49:55,283
[music continues]
644
00:50:15,762 --> 00:50:17,347
[music fades]
645
00:50:17,431 --> 00:50:21,143
As a female, I'll get a different
level of attention for it
646
00:50:21,226 --> 00:50:23,729
and I'll get a higher
level of criticism.
647
00:50:26,106 --> 00:50:28,108
Not everyone's gonna
agree with you.
648
00:50:28,191 --> 00:50:31,236
[mouse clicking]
649
00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:34,448
[Ocean] Keyboard warriors,
millions of miles away.
650
00:50:34,531 --> 00:50:36,867
[intriguing music playing]
651
00:50:39,786 --> 00:50:41,621
People are like,
"You're gonna die."
652
00:50:41,705 --> 00:50:44,374
I'm like, "I hope you have a
wonderful day and a long life too."
653
00:50:47,669 --> 00:50:51,381
People want to comment on my appearance
or my approach to conservation.
654
00:50:51,465 --> 00:50:53,216
I challenge them to do better.
655
00:50:54,926 --> 00:50:56,803
So it is what it is.
656
00:50:56,887 --> 00:50:58,722
Just gotta work with it, right?
657
00:51:03,727 --> 00:51:08,565
Ultimately, we knew we had to do something
more extreme to cut through the bullshit.
658
00:51:09,941 --> 00:51:10,941
[Juan] Jaws.
659
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,361
[perilous music playing]
660
00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:18,492
The deepest fear that
everybody has of sharks.
661
00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,036
It's always the image
of a great white.
662
00:51:26,416 --> 00:51:29,086
[Ocean] And so we wanted
to go to get this picture
663
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:34,132
to try and show connection between
human and great white shark,
664
00:51:35,050 --> 00:51:36,301
the "anti-Jaws."
665
00:51:38,929 --> 00:51:42,808
And in Hawaii, we do get them
coming through every year,
666
00:51:42,891 --> 00:51:44,768
but it's so rare to see them.
667
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:49,022
[Ocean] Like the
unicorn of the ocean.
668
00:51:50,273 --> 00:51:51,983
Rare to ever see,
669
00:51:52,067 --> 00:51:55,821
let alone actually be in the
water and have one swim up to you.
670
00:52:01,827 --> 00:52:04,996
There's only a few places in the world
where we know we can find great whites
671
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:09,292
and that you can dive with great
whites, and, um, one place is Guadalupe.
672
00:52:29,229 --> 00:52:32,440
[Juan] My first time
diving with great whites.
673
00:52:33,608 --> 00:52:36,736
The chum and the fish is all
going down current that direction.
674
00:52:37,529 --> 00:52:39,823
And the shark should
come from that direction.
675
00:52:40,323 --> 00:52:42,951
And he comes from
the bow of the boat.
676
00:52:44,327 --> 00:52:47,622
Eyes open, making eye
contact with each person.
677
00:52:54,754 --> 00:52:55,922
And then he dives down.
678
00:52:56,006 --> 00:52:59,593
And then the next thing he's coming
straight up from the bottom so fast.
679
00:52:59,676 --> 00:53:02,429
And it's just like a
blur of white. Boom!
680
00:53:07,225 --> 00:53:10,770
What it made me realize is
that if they wanted humans,
681
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,315
we'd never have a chance.
682
00:53:13,398 --> 00:53:16,026
People wouldn't be,
like, bitten by sharks.
683
00:53:16,109 --> 00:53:17,360
They'd be disappearing.
684
00:53:36,713 --> 00:53:38,965
So, really, for the
first time in my life,
685
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:43,178
I decided to go
and start observing
686
00:53:43,261 --> 00:53:45,764
the behavior of a
specific species of shark
687
00:53:47,182 --> 00:53:48,558
from within a cage.
688
00:53:48,642 --> 00:53:50,644
[edgy intriguing music playing]
689
00:54:06,034 --> 00:54:09,246
[Ocean] Just watching the way the
sharks interact with each other,
690
00:54:10,664 --> 00:54:12,415
watching their conversations,
691
00:54:13,792 --> 00:54:15,627
and getting to
know the language.
692
00:54:33,603 --> 00:54:37,983
[Ocean] There's a certain level of
nervousness, but it's more excitement.
693
00:54:44,197 --> 00:54:48,618
And it's that feeling of like,
"Okay, I'm ready for this now."
694
00:55:01,047 --> 00:55:06,303
Learning, observing, noticing when
I was, like, getting locked in here,
695
00:55:06,386 --> 00:55:09,514
and, oop, there's one right here
on the side. I missed that one.
696
00:55:13,643 --> 00:55:17,564
Now, do I know 100% what's gonna
happen when I'm outside this cage?
697
00:55:18,898 --> 00:55:19,733
No.
698
00:55:19,816 --> 00:55:21,818
[music continues]
699
00:55:41,254 --> 00:55:43,131
And then I saw this
beautiful shark.
700
00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:51,514
The most dominant
female in the area.
701
00:55:58,104 --> 00:56:02,150
Her curiosity towards
me was quite profound.
702
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:10,909
She's looking at me.
703
00:56:19,209 --> 00:56:23,713
Maybe this isn't the right way to say it,
but it almost felt like an invitation.
704
00:56:52,951 --> 00:56:54,953
[mesmerizing music playing]
705
00:57:13,346 --> 00:57:18,351
No one had interacted with a white
shark in that way prior to that day.
706
00:57:23,064 --> 00:57:25,066
[uplifting music playing]
707
00:57:25,942 --> 00:57:27,861
[Juan] This was that
anti-Jaws moment.
708
00:57:37,537 --> 00:57:38,830
[Ocean] And gave it to GoPro
709
00:57:38,913 --> 00:57:41,124
and they released it as
a conservation thing.
710
00:57:50,341 --> 00:57:52,385
[Juan] That's when
everything changed.
711
00:57:52,469 --> 00:57:54,304
-[man] Ocean Ramsey.
-[woman] Ocean Ramsey.
712
00:57:54,387 --> 00:57:56,181
-Ocean Ramsey.
-Ocean Ramsey.
713
00:57:56,264 --> 00:57:57,724
-Her name's Ocean?
-Her name is Ocean.
714
00:57:57,807 --> 00:58:01,519
A fearless daredevil who
swims with great whites.
715
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:04,272
[man] This woman is actually
swimming with a great white shark.
716
00:58:04,355 --> 00:58:07,317
[woman 1] No! That's a
giant shark. [laughing]
717
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,444
[woman 2] I'm not sure how
much the shark liked that.
718
00:58:09,527 --> 00:58:12,071
Great white sharks are
simply misunderstood.
719
00:58:12,155 --> 00:58:14,616
So, like any rational
person, she swims with them.
720
00:58:14,699 --> 00:58:17,368
If we were playing To
Tell the Truth right now,
721
00:58:17,452 --> 00:58:20,455
I could put any two people next
to you and no one would ever pick
722
00:58:20,538 --> 00:58:22,858
you're the one that went swimming
with a great white shark.
723
00:58:23,750 --> 00:58:25,251
[funky music playing]
724
00:58:25,335 --> 00:58:27,170
[Ocean] The community
began to grow.
725
00:58:28,755 --> 00:58:32,258
Also, there were some
business opportunities
726
00:58:33,051 --> 00:58:35,220
to passively raise awareness,
727
00:58:37,263 --> 00:58:39,182
which was really
good for the sharks.
728
00:58:46,147 --> 00:58:48,066
There's now more and more people
729
00:58:48,149 --> 00:58:51,569
who want to explore and learn
more about shark behavior.
730
00:58:51,653 --> 00:58:54,239
And we're there to
introduce people to sharks.
731
00:58:54,322 --> 00:58:57,075
You guys can come in. Just
stay super close to the boat.
732
00:59:00,453 --> 00:59:02,080
And helping to keep people safe.
733
00:59:03,373 --> 00:59:07,585
There's nothing like empowering someone
with personal, first-hand perspective.
734
00:59:08,336 --> 00:59:09,712
For them to be able to say,
735
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,966
"I was in the water with a shark
and it was a beautiful experience."
736
00:59:15,718 --> 00:59:21,057
And to appreciate
what a shark truly is,
737
00:59:21,140 --> 00:59:24,102
and that will be inspiring
to them to help protect them.
738
00:59:28,773 --> 00:59:33,736
I mean, the tricky part is the
balance of this whole thing, right?
739
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:40,618
Is like, we need to
protect these animals.
740
00:59:49,502 --> 00:59:55,967
But I saw what that animal
can do to a human being.
741
00:59:58,094 --> 00:59:59,888
[reporter 1] This morning,
people on high alert
742
00:59:59,971 --> 01:00:02,223
at a popular surf spot in O'ahu.
743
01:00:02,307 --> 01:00:05,518
[reporter 2] This time, a 25-year-old
surfer's in critical condition
744
01:00:05,602 --> 01:00:07,103
after he was
attacked by a shark.
745
01:00:07,186 --> 01:00:09,897
[reporter 3] Colin Cook was
surfing off O'ahu's North Shore
746
01:00:09,981 --> 01:00:12,233
when the shark
suddenly appeared.
747
01:00:14,152 --> 01:00:16,070
[Colin] It was, like,
a beautiful day.
748
01:00:16,571 --> 01:00:19,032
And the water looked
clear and really inviting.
749
01:00:19,866 --> 01:00:22,535
I had been out there, you
know, for a couple hours.
750
01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:26,456
And I remember, at that point, thinking
I probably should get a wave in.
751
01:00:27,248 --> 01:00:31,002
And out of nowhere, I remember
being slammed by something
752
01:00:31,085 --> 01:00:32,462
and getting pulled under.
753
01:00:32,545 --> 01:00:34,297
I kind of opened
my eyes underwater
754
01:00:34,380 --> 01:00:38,468
and realized that there was, like,
a large shark attached to my leg.
755
01:00:39,093 --> 01:00:42,263
And I was able to break free
and swim to the surface.
756
01:00:42,347 --> 01:00:44,307
This finger… tip of
the finger was missing,
757
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:46,643
and these three fingers
were hanging over the side.
758
01:00:46,726 --> 01:00:48,853
I thought, "Oh, that
was it. I'm okay."
759
01:00:48,936 --> 01:00:51,981
And then I looked back at my
leg, and it was completely gone.
760
01:00:52,065 --> 01:00:55,735
And I realized at that point,
like, I'm done, I'm dead.
761
01:00:57,612 --> 01:01:01,199
[Keoni] I just felt a sense
that I was supposed to be there.
762
01:01:02,867 --> 01:01:05,495
Whoa. I don't know how much
we can get into this, guys,
763
01:01:05,578 --> 01:01:08,956
but, like the shark
bit his leg here.
764
01:01:10,625 --> 01:01:13,878
And the leash was on the ankle.
765
01:01:13,961 --> 01:01:16,214
Because of the
placement of the bite,
766
01:01:16,297 --> 01:01:18,800
since Colin climbed
back on his board,
767
01:01:18,883 --> 01:01:22,762
the shark was ripping him around by
the leash, like, when I got to him.
768
01:01:23,596 --> 01:01:27,392
At that point, I looked over and heard,
"Hold on, buddy, I'm coming for you."
769
01:01:27,475 --> 01:01:31,104
Keoni happened to be paddling by
me on a stand-up paddle board.
770
01:01:31,187 --> 01:01:32,855
Ocean and Juan
had told me, like,
771
01:01:32,939 --> 01:01:36,651
"Listen, tiger shark's gonna have
a ton of power moving forward."
772
01:01:37,276 --> 01:01:39,404
"But if you can make it miss,
773
01:01:39,487 --> 01:01:43,199
then you've got like ten, 12
seconds for it to turn around."
774
01:01:43,991 --> 01:01:46,327
And I hit it as hard as I could.
775
01:01:46,411 --> 01:01:49,122
I tried to push it down
in the water column.
776
01:01:49,205 --> 01:01:53,167
I remember as soon as I hit her down and
I knew that her mouth was passing us,
777
01:01:53,251 --> 01:01:55,878
I threw the paddle and
I put him on my back,
778
01:01:57,714 --> 01:01:59,257
and we started paddling in.
779
01:01:59,340 --> 01:02:02,427
I had, like, virtually
no life left in me.
780
01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:05,513
It was kind of hard to
breathe. And… [inhales deeply]
781
01:02:06,097 --> 01:02:08,808
I remember I was kind of
telling Keoni my last wishes.
782
01:02:09,517 --> 01:02:12,603
He said, "Hey, man, just
tell my mom I love her."
783
01:02:16,107 --> 01:02:18,776
[Colin] We've been close
ever since this happened.
784
01:02:19,777 --> 01:02:22,280
It's kind of a unique
bond that we have.
785
01:02:24,365 --> 01:02:26,868
You know, he's almost
like this hero to me.
786
01:02:26,951 --> 01:02:29,412
[reporter 1] Cook made it to
shore with the help of a friend.
787
01:02:29,495 --> 01:02:33,624
His left leg had to be amputated and
he lost parts of two of his fingers,
788
01:02:33,708 --> 01:02:35,209
but he's still here.
789
01:02:35,293 --> 01:02:38,629
[reporter 2] Keoni Bowthorpe
was awarded the Carnegie Medal.
790
01:02:38,713 --> 01:02:42,467
It's given to those who risk their
lives to an extraordinary degree
791
01:02:42,550 --> 01:02:44,385
to save someone else.
792
01:02:44,469 --> 01:02:46,763
[Ocean] It's such a
wonderful hero story
793
01:02:47,722 --> 01:02:52,059
that my heart just…
it just feels crushed.
794
01:02:53,060 --> 01:02:55,271
It's… it's just a tragedy.
795
01:02:55,354 --> 01:03:01,152
And the only thing that I can do is
look for the positive in any situation.
796
01:03:01,235 --> 01:03:03,738
And that's the fact
that it's so rare.
797
01:03:10,995 --> 01:03:14,916
All day, every day, sharks are swimming
past surfers, swimmers and divers.
798
01:03:14,999 --> 01:03:17,001
[tense music playing]
799
01:03:24,550 --> 01:03:26,969
And if they looked at us
as a natural prey item…
800
01:03:30,515 --> 01:03:34,143
These kinds of incidents would
be happening all the time.
801
01:03:38,898 --> 01:03:40,983
And yet it's so rare.
802
01:03:49,951 --> 01:03:53,955
I feel like my job is not just
to protect humans from sharks…
803
01:03:56,123 --> 01:03:59,418
It's also to protect
sharks from humans.
804
01:04:05,258 --> 01:04:07,176
I sometimes go through
these periods of time
805
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:09,095
where you've gotten to
know these individuals,
806
01:04:09,178 --> 01:04:11,222
and then you don't see
them for a couple of years.
807
01:04:13,140 --> 01:04:15,142
[pensive music playing]
808
01:04:16,644 --> 01:04:18,104
You're like, "Did
they get hooked"
809
01:04:18,187 --> 01:04:20,773
"and get their jaw broken
open or wrapped up in a net?"
810
01:04:20,857 --> 01:04:22,608
"Are they caught
in a fishing line?"
811
01:04:24,110 --> 01:04:25,110
"Did they die?"
812
01:04:28,322 --> 01:04:30,366
We hadn't seen Roxy
in a long time.
813
01:04:38,291 --> 01:04:42,253
[Juan] She had a rope going down
into her stomach with a hook.
814
01:04:48,259 --> 01:04:50,219
[Ocean] I couldn't cut that
815
01:04:50,303 --> 01:04:53,723
because if we put tension on it,
you could just see the pain in her.
816
01:04:56,183 --> 01:04:58,644
God, that broke my
heart to see that.
817
01:05:02,481 --> 01:05:04,734
You could tell that she
was just super weak.
818
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:23,669
In my head, I was just like, "Okay,
she's probably not gonna make it."
819
01:05:31,010 --> 01:05:33,262
I got to say goodbye
at least, you know?
820
01:05:43,439 --> 01:05:47,109
[Ocean] I was most
afraid for the sharks
821
01:05:47,193 --> 01:05:51,906
at the point where I had really fallen
in love with them as individuals.
822
01:05:52,490 --> 01:05:55,034
So let's do something to
actually help save them.
823
01:05:55,117 --> 01:05:57,328
[anticipatory music playing]
824
01:05:57,411 --> 01:05:59,956
So we tried to get a law passed
825
01:06:01,374 --> 01:06:03,000
to make policy change,
826
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:08,673
to get them to be fully protected
from wasteful killing in Hawaii.
827
01:06:10,299 --> 01:06:13,094
[man 1] Next bill is HB1734.
828
01:06:13,719 --> 01:06:15,554
Relating to marine
life protection.
829
01:06:16,722 --> 01:06:17,848
[man 2] It's a long one.
830
01:06:28,818 --> 01:06:30,236
[woman] Can you speak
into the microphone?
831
01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:32,571
Sorry. Can you
guys hear me okay?
832
01:06:35,074 --> 01:06:38,452
[Ocean] It was dropping everything
that was going on in our life.
833
01:06:38,536 --> 01:06:42,123
The social media strategy, we'll
just keep going on that one.
834
01:06:43,249 --> 01:06:45,668
[Juan] I don't need to
sleep. Let's get this done
835
01:06:45,751 --> 01:06:48,379
and try and get as much
media out there as possible.
836
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:53,092
Aloha, I'm Ocean Ramsey. I'm a shark and
marine conservationist and scientist.
837
01:06:53,175 --> 01:06:56,971
Sharks are crucial for the health
and balance of marine ecosystems
838
01:06:57,054 --> 01:06:59,098
and need and deserve
to be protected.
839
01:06:59,181 --> 01:07:03,227
I think she thinks like a shark.
And that I mean as a compliment.
840
01:07:03,310 --> 01:07:05,938
[Ocean] Take a stand against shark
fishing and elect local leaders
841
01:07:06,022 --> 01:07:08,441
that will establish laws
to help protect sharks.
842
01:07:09,191 --> 01:07:10,234
Hi, you guys.
843
01:07:11,193 --> 01:07:12,945
[kids gasp, exclaim]
844
01:07:13,946 --> 01:07:17,992
[Ocean] Rallying in the community to try
and get people to bombard the politicians.
845
01:07:18,075 --> 01:07:19,452
The sad reality is
846
01:07:19,535 --> 01:07:24,165
it's over 100 million sharks
are killed every year.
847
01:07:24,248 --> 01:07:26,834
Why protect them? Why do
we actually need sharks?
848
01:07:26,917 --> 01:07:30,087
If we remove them from our
ocean, everything falls apart.
849
01:07:30,171 --> 01:07:32,423
70% of the air that you
breathe comes from the oceans,
850
01:07:32,506 --> 01:07:35,676
and sharks are a vital component
to that healthy marine ecosystem.
851
01:07:37,136 --> 01:07:39,180
[Mauricio] In order
to make a change
852
01:07:40,473 --> 01:07:41,766
in the time that we need,
853
01:07:41,849 --> 01:07:44,977
I think that we really
must work together.
854
01:07:45,895 --> 01:07:47,730
We must work as a team.
855
01:07:48,981 --> 01:07:51,817
In my district in South Maui, there's
been a spate of shark attacks.
856
01:07:51,901 --> 01:07:55,071
The fact that a couple instances
are happening are likely due
857
01:07:55,154 --> 01:07:58,616
to the increase in the number of people
that are spending time in the water.
858
01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,368
My name is Juan Oliphant,
shark conservationist.
859
01:08:01,452 --> 01:08:03,287
[Ocean] It wasn't
just Juan and I going.
860
01:08:03,370 --> 01:08:06,082
It was a whole bunch of
people in the community.
861
01:08:06,665 --> 01:08:10,836
Hawaii State Capitol Building.
Room 312. Hope you can make it.
862
01:08:11,587 --> 01:08:13,255
[indistinct chatter]
863
01:08:13,339 --> 01:08:17,551
Shark species will go extinct
without our protection.
864
01:08:17,635 --> 01:08:22,139
We've had incidents of sharks being
caught and strung up on street signs,
865
01:08:22,223 --> 01:08:23,891
like hung from the neck.
866
01:08:24,391 --> 01:08:26,811
[Ocean] Submitting
testimony online.
867
01:08:26,894 --> 01:08:28,813
[keyboard clacking]
868
01:08:29,855 --> 01:08:33,150
[Ocean] From all the different
organizations that we work with.
869
01:08:35,069 --> 01:08:38,030
[Juan] She's so driven on
so many different platforms.
870
01:08:39,573 --> 01:08:41,117
It's hard to keep up with her.
871
01:08:42,451 --> 01:08:44,870
[Ocean] Not everyone's
gonna agree with you.
872
01:08:45,538 --> 01:08:49,250
[fisherman] There's a huge competition
between sharks and fishermen.
873
01:08:49,333 --> 01:08:51,919
Some fishermen kept opposing it.
874
01:08:52,002 --> 01:08:57,383
I don't believe that catching and killing
sharks is a major problem in Hawaii.
875
01:08:57,466 --> 01:08:58,425
That's not true.
876
01:08:58,509 --> 01:09:00,302
It causes a lot of chaos.
877
01:09:00,386 --> 01:09:03,597
There have been malicious killings,
very intentional killings.
878
01:09:03,681 --> 01:09:06,976
-Is that or is that not self-defense?
-That's debatable.
879
01:09:07,059 --> 01:09:09,937
No, no, no. We're gonna
learn from nature.
880
01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:12,940
What academic publications
have you published?
881
01:09:13,023 --> 01:09:15,943
When I look at your website,
it's very commercial in nature.
882
01:09:16,026 --> 01:09:19,071
They underestimate Ocean
about the toughness
883
01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:21,157
that she is and she has.
884
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,242
[frantic orchestral music]
885
01:09:24,368 --> 01:09:26,078
We're in opposition
of this bill.
886
01:09:26,162 --> 01:09:27,746
I'm in full support.
887
01:09:27,830 --> 01:09:29,540
I'm testifying in
opposition to this bill.
888
01:09:29,623 --> 01:09:33,210
So I'm here to give the
manĹŤ the full protection.
889
01:09:36,505 --> 01:09:38,507
[Ocean] We put in
so much effort.
890
01:09:43,470 --> 01:09:44,638
But it failed.
891
01:09:52,146 --> 01:09:53,522
[frantic music fades out]
892
01:09:53,606 --> 01:09:55,149
Year after year after year.
893
01:10:00,487 --> 01:10:04,450
[Juan] That's when I definitely would
see her in her most dark phases.
894
01:10:06,327 --> 01:10:07,912
And she's a different person.
895
01:10:08,412 --> 01:10:14,585
It's just… Her mindset definitely changes
to being, like, a lot more negative.
896
01:10:17,171 --> 01:10:19,715
She just doesn't
know how to stop.
897
01:10:20,299 --> 01:10:21,217
I know.
898
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:23,302
[gentle music plays]
899
01:10:23,928 --> 01:10:26,388
She's just gonna work
herself to death.
900
01:10:31,602 --> 01:10:34,647
I just know that she's
battling something tough.
901
01:10:40,694 --> 01:10:45,532
She doesn't really open up to
me even about it because, um…
902
01:10:47,576 --> 01:10:48,786
I don't know why.
903
01:10:48,869 --> 01:10:50,871
[music continues]
904
01:11:33,914 --> 01:11:38,961
I definitely felt, like,
major depression, which I...
905
01:11:39,044 --> 01:11:42,089
It's funny, I actually feel
bad about feeling depressed
906
01:11:42,172 --> 01:11:46,302
because you have so many opportunities,
so many things that are going on for you.
907
01:11:47,469 --> 01:11:50,723
And, you know, it's like
everybody goes through struggles.
908
01:12:01,942 --> 01:12:03,944
[soft piano music playing]
909
01:12:09,366 --> 01:12:13,037
[Juan] I wanted to feel like I'm
there in those moments with her.
910
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:19,752
[Ocean] I couldn't
do this without him.
911
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:24,548
He's the only person, I
think, that understands me.
912
01:12:31,055 --> 01:12:35,100
Everything that we've been through
together has only made us stronger.
913
01:12:35,184 --> 01:12:37,061
[music fades out]
914
01:12:43,817 --> 01:12:46,987
[Ocean] By 2019, we've
been working for four years
915
01:12:47,071 --> 01:12:48,947
trying to, like,
get that law passed.
916
01:12:52,076 --> 01:12:54,495
The next deadline for the
bill to be reintroduced
917
01:12:54,578 --> 01:12:56,538
was coming up at
the end of the week.
918
01:12:58,624 --> 01:13:03,837
And we knew we were coming up short
again on support from the politicians.
919
01:13:08,092 --> 01:13:09,718
And then it happens.
920
01:13:16,683 --> 01:13:22,022
We heard about a whale that was
coming onto the reef in Waikiki.
921
01:13:25,442 --> 01:13:26,610
It was a dead whale.
922
01:13:29,613 --> 01:13:31,907
I'm instantly like, "Ooh,"
923
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:35,953
because a dead whale carcass
is gonna attract sharks.
924
01:13:37,913 --> 01:13:39,123
So we were in the water.
925
01:13:39,206 --> 01:13:41,667
There were tiger sharks
and we were observing them.
926
01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:43,752
[suspenseful music playing]
927
01:13:47,005 --> 01:13:50,092
And at one point, the
tiger sharks disappeared.
928
01:13:58,225 --> 01:14:00,060
And then everything was quiet.
929
01:14:09,486 --> 01:14:12,614
But I'm hearing
little dolphin noises.
930
01:14:12,698 --> 01:14:13,657
[dolphins clicking]
931
01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:16,243
And I'm seeing some
flashes down in the deep.
932
01:14:21,832 --> 01:14:23,500
And then up from the depths…
933
01:14:26,211 --> 01:14:30,132
Comes this massive
great white shark.
934
01:14:31,216 --> 01:14:32,426
Oh my God!
935
01:15:03,916 --> 01:15:06,710
She's so huge, 20-plus foot.
936
01:15:09,296 --> 01:15:12,341
Juan was able to actually
get in really close.
937
01:15:13,050 --> 01:15:16,929
And you could see her trying to just
take down more of this whale meat.
938
01:15:20,849 --> 01:15:23,810
And all the bits of whale flesh
939
01:15:23,894 --> 01:15:27,606
are sort of coming out
the side of her gills.
940
01:15:38,825 --> 01:15:41,036
It just seems so surreal.
941
01:15:43,789 --> 01:15:48,085
There's no word to describe
what that experience was like.
942
01:16:00,222 --> 01:16:02,140
And she goes right to the boat.
943
01:16:02,724 --> 01:16:03,850
[clunking]
944
01:16:03,934 --> 01:16:05,978
And it sounds like
metal on metal.
945
01:16:06,061 --> 01:16:09,064
And you just realize, like,
how thick their skin is.
946
01:16:18,865 --> 01:16:20,867
[dolphins clicking]
947
01:16:43,140 --> 01:16:45,142
[mesmerizing music playing]
948
01:16:53,275 --> 01:16:55,402
[dolphins clicking]
949
01:17:01,450 --> 01:17:05,787
[Ocean] It just seems so much more
beautiful than I could have imagined.
950
01:17:10,626 --> 01:17:12,502
[clicking]
951
01:17:24,556 --> 01:17:26,808
With her, it's a
different feeling.
952
01:17:28,727 --> 01:17:30,729
I don't feel, like,
the need to breathe.
953
01:17:33,565 --> 01:17:36,276
The emotions and the
connection that I feel,
954
01:17:37,361 --> 01:17:38,487
it's overwhelming.
955
01:17:47,621 --> 01:17:49,289
This is what I'm supposed to do.
956
01:18:01,718 --> 01:18:03,261
This is what I'm alive for.
957
01:18:13,313 --> 01:18:16,191
[reporter 1] This isn't
a movie. This is real.
958
01:18:16,274 --> 01:18:17,984
This is a 20-foot great white.
959
01:18:18,068 --> 01:18:22,030
The largest great white shark
on record anywhere in the world.
960
01:18:22,114 --> 01:18:24,991
[reporter 1] And the
oldest too, 50 years old.
961
01:18:25,075 --> 01:18:27,160
[reporter 2] The shark
made a surprise appearance
962
01:18:27,244 --> 01:18:28,704
off the coast of
O'ahu this week.
963
01:18:28,787 --> 01:18:31,331
Diver Ocean Ramsey
swam alongside her.
964
01:18:31,415 --> 01:18:33,834
[reporter 1] Ramsey has traveled
the globe studying sharks…
965
01:18:33,917 --> 01:18:38,672
[Ocean] The attention that came on
Hawaii for having great white sharks
966
01:18:39,548 --> 01:18:40,966
was huge.
967
01:18:41,049 --> 01:18:42,759
She is doing this
to kind of show
968
01:18:42,843 --> 01:18:46,012
that not all sharks can
prove deadly to humans.
969
01:18:46,096 --> 01:18:49,766
And it's raising the need to protect
these animals versus vilify them.
970
01:18:49,850 --> 01:18:52,769
-Do you think she has a point there?
-No.
971
01:18:52,853 --> 01:18:56,690
[Ocean] There was controversy around it,
saying, "Oh, you shouldn't touch a shark."
972
01:18:56,773 --> 01:18:59,526
You absolutely don't need
to harass wild animals
973
01:18:59,609 --> 01:19:01,111
to show they're not dangerous.
974
01:19:01,194 --> 01:19:02,404
Look, but don't touch.
975
01:19:02,487 --> 01:19:04,489
[hopeful music playing]
976
01:19:07,576 --> 01:19:12,330
[Ocean] The controversy was actually good
because it kept it in the news longer.
977
01:19:15,041 --> 01:19:19,463
And it kept a shark in
the news in a good way.
978
01:19:22,007 --> 01:19:25,177
Because it was people saying,
"Oh, you shouldn't touch them."
979
01:19:26,511 --> 01:19:27,679
Like, people care.
980
01:19:30,348 --> 01:19:34,144
On the inside, I was like, "Oh my gosh,
people actually care about a shark."
981
01:19:37,731 --> 01:19:41,777
There's a lot of controversy about how
close you should get to a white shark.
982
01:19:41,860 --> 01:19:44,321
In general, I don't think
the sharks give a darn.
983
01:19:45,197 --> 01:19:47,449
Um, I don't think
that it's harassment.
984
01:19:47,532 --> 01:19:49,075
I don't agree with it,
985
01:19:49,159 --> 01:19:51,620
but the level of good that
they could potentially be doing
986
01:19:51,703 --> 01:19:54,915
for the overall population
of shark conservation…
987
01:19:56,792 --> 01:19:58,835
There can be a lot
of good done as well.
988
01:19:58,919 --> 01:20:02,881
People kill 70 to 100
million sharks every year.
989
01:20:02,964 --> 01:20:03,966
Her numbers are startling,
990
01:20:04,049 --> 01:20:06,343
that they're killing that many
of those beautiful creatures.
991
01:20:06,426 --> 01:20:07,427
-Yeah.
-That's alarming.
992
01:20:07,511 --> 01:20:10,096
[reporter] The timing of the
shark's visit comes as Ramsey pushes
993
01:20:10,180 --> 01:20:14,142
for stronger legislation to protect
the mammoth creatures of the sea.
994
01:20:15,393 --> 01:20:16,853
[Ocean] Right then, that week,
995
01:20:16,937 --> 01:20:20,398
was where we needed to schedule
this bill to protect sharks.
996
01:20:21,149 --> 01:20:25,862
And I'm like, "Okay, I'm on the
level." I'm like, "Bring it, let's go."
997
01:20:28,782 --> 01:20:29,866
This is Roxy.
998
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:33,495
Right now, she's currently swimming
around with a wire leader in her throat.
999
01:20:33,578 --> 01:20:37,541
Many people have come out to meet her
and see her and fall in love with her
1000
01:20:37,624 --> 01:20:40,126
and ask me all the time on
social media, "Is she alive?"
1001
01:20:40,210 --> 01:20:41,628
And honestly, I can't say.
1002
01:20:42,337 --> 01:20:45,423
These animals are going to
be banished from the planet,
1003
01:20:45,507 --> 01:20:47,634
and there's no way back.
1004
01:20:48,218 --> 01:20:49,636
It's on the line right now.
1005
01:20:49,719 --> 01:20:54,057
We have the best chance we
will ever have right now.
1006
01:20:54,140 --> 01:20:58,520
Just stop killing sharks
to begin to heal the ocean.
1007
01:21:00,188 --> 01:21:02,399
[man] Thanks, everybody,
for coming out.
1008
01:21:02,983 --> 01:21:06,194
As you can see, very
little opposition, so…
1009
01:21:06,278 --> 01:21:10,156
That wasn't by accident. That was
because you folks have been organizing
1010
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:13,618
and pushing this issue for
quite some time now, so…
1011
01:21:13,702 --> 01:21:19,457
If we can be open enough to see
things from multiple perspectives,
1012
01:21:19,541 --> 01:21:23,169
we have a greater chance
of finding that balance
1013
01:21:23,253 --> 01:21:27,924
and connection with our fellow
creatures of this world.
1014
01:21:28,008 --> 01:21:32,220
Man has always eliminated things
when they're afraid of things.
1015
01:21:32,304 --> 01:21:35,432
You're going into their
environment, you know.
1016
01:21:35,515 --> 01:21:37,100
It's our environment too,
1017
01:21:37,183 --> 01:21:40,604
but how do we coexist? You
know, that's the real lesson.
1018
01:21:40,687 --> 01:21:42,689
[indistinct chattering]
1019
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:46,276
Good news!
1020
01:21:48,069 --> 01:21:50,530
[man] House Bill 553,
1021
01:21:50,614 --> 01:21:54,409
a bill for an act relating
to the protection of sharks.
1022
01:21:54,492 --> 01:22:00,415
This establishes the offense
of intentionally and knowingly
1023
01:22:00,498 --> 01:22:04,210
capturing, entangling,
or killing a shark
1024
01:22:04,294 --> 01:22:06,546
in state marine waters.
1025
01:22:08,465 --> 01:22:12,886
And House Bill 553 is now
law in Hawaii as Act 51.
1026
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,096
[speaking indistinctly]
1027
01:22:15,180 --> 01:22:16,973
[electronic buzzing]
1028
01:22:17,057 --> 01:22:19,309
[uplifting music playing]
1029
01:22:23,021 --> 01:22:26,149
[Ocean] It's now illegal
to kill sharks in Hawaii.
1030
01:22:30,236 --> 01:22:34,699
[Juan] But the bigger thing is that
this law is now already in use,
1031
01:22:34,783 --> 01:22:36,701
and it can be given
to other states.
1032
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:41,456
It just takes a few people to
speak up, and things can change.
1033
01:22:48,171 --> 01:22:49,172
[music ends]
1034
01:22:51,299 --> 01:22:52,759
[Juan] Ooh!
1035
01:22:52,842 --> 01:22:54,844
That is Roxy.
1036
01:22:56,012 --> 01:22:59,224
Oh God, yeah!
1037
01:23:01,851 --> 01:23:03,228
When she came back,
1038
01:23:04,187 --> 01:23:06,815
levels of excitement and
happiness, you're just like,
1039
01:23:06,898 --> 01:23:10,026
"She's alive. She's
here. She's kicking it."
1040
01:23:10,110 --> 01:23:13,738
Unbelievable. Yeah,
baby, what's up?
1041
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:16,366
Ah, love this shark.
1042
01:23:16,866 --> 01:23:18,785
Oh, Roxy.
1043
01:23:23,415 --> 01:23:25,417
[uplifting music playing]
1044
01:23:36,177 --> 01:23:39,514
We were thrilled to see her,
like, just looking so healthy.
1045
01:23:43,977 --> 01:23:46,813
Something happened.
Someone helped her out,
1046
01:23:46,896 --> 01:23:51,401
and she was, yeah, on
fire. She was amazing.
1047
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:58,450
Getting to see her just
thriving, that was a relief.
1048
01:24:02,370 --> 01:24:04,622
And knowing that Roxy
and Nikki and Kalihi
1049
01:24:04,706 --> 01:24:08,084
and all these sharks that we grew
up with that are like family to us
1050
01:24:08,168 --> 01:24:09,669
are now officially protected,
1051
01:24:10,378 --> 01:24:11,838
it makes me super happy.
1052
01:24:18,178 --> 01:24:21,014
[music fades]
1053
01:24:21,097 --> 01:24:24,225
[Juan] My mom, she helped me
get into conservation as well.
1054
01:24:25,977 --> 01:24:26,936
What was her thing?
1055
01:24:27,020 --> 01:24:30,732
You're only a limited amount
of time on the planet.
1056
01:24:30,815 --> 01:24:33,651
Let's just try and make it
better than when you found it.
1057
01:24:33,735 --> 01:24:36,321
That was always her thing.
It always stuck with me.
1058
01:24:36,404 --> 01:24:40,492
So I was like, "Oh, yeah, so I got
to find what's my thing that I can do
1059
01:24:40,575 --> 01:24:43,244
to make it a little bit
better than where I found it."
1060
01:24:43,328 --> 01:24:47,165
And I feel like that's with the
ocean and with the sharks for me,
1061
01:24:47,248 --> 01:24:49,125
for sure, 100%. Yeah.
1062
01:24:49,209 --> 01:24:50,543
["Waves" by Dean Lewis plays]
1063
01:24:50,627 --> 01:24:54,297
Yeah. Yes. [chuckles] That one
got me a little teary-eyed.
1064
01:24:54,380 --> 01:24:56,007
Jeez, I'm all emotional today.
1065
01:24:56,091 --> 01:24:58,843
It's the hot... You guys
got it so hot in here.
1066
01:24:58,927 --> 01:25:02,514
♪ There is a swelling storm ♪
1067
01:25:04,140 --> 01:25:08,061
♪ And I'm caught up In
the middle of it all ♪
1068
01:25:10,688 --> 01:25:12,690
♪ There is a light… ♪
1069
01:25:12,774 --> 01:25:17,445
[Keoni] I think it'd be hard to overstate
the significance of what they're doing.
1070
01:25:18,822 --> 01:25:21,616
You could do far worse
1071
01:25:23,284 --> 01:25:24,619
in heroes for your kids.
1072
01:25:26,454 --> 01:25:30,542
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪
1073
01:25:30,625 --> 01:25:34,879
♪ It always does ♪
1074
01:25:34,963 --> 01:25:37,048
♪ It always does… ♪
1075
01:25:37,132 --> 01:25:40,051
[Ocean] I think people just
want my signature sometimes
1076
01:25:40,135 --> 01:25:44,722
'cause they think that I'm going to die
and then the book will be worth more.
1077
01:25:44,806 --> 01:25:47,392
♪ …flood ♪
1078
01:25:47,475 --> 01:25:50,812
♪ Into the flood ♪
1079
01:25:50,895 --> 01:25:54,399
♪ And the freedom of falling ♪
1080
01:25:54,482 --> 01:25:57,402
♪ The feeling I thought
was set in stone ♪
1081
01:25:57,485 --> 01:25:59,988
♪ It slips through my fingers… ♪
1082
01:26:00,071 --> 01:26:04,284
[Ocean] Everything that I've
accomplished, no one would know about it
1083
01:26:04,367 --> 01:26:08,913
without his incredible
talent and skills and eye.
1084
01:26:08,997 --> 01:26:12,876
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪
1085
01:26:13,459 --> 01:26:15,295
♪ And carries us away ♪
1086
01:26:15,378 --> 01:26:18,339
♪ I've watched my wild youth ♪
1087
01:26:18,423 --> 01:26:19,757
♪ Disappear… ♪
1088
01:26:19,841 --> 01:26:22,343
[reporter] Colin Cook
survived a shark attack.
1089
01:26:22,427 --> 01:26:25,346
It's a big weekend for Cook
because he was back in the water.
1090
01:26:25,930 --> 01:26:29,100
It's a great day to be down here.
It's inspiring to see everybody.
1091
01:26:29,184 --> 01:26:30,310
♪ …back again? ♪
1092
01:26:30,393 --> 01:26:33,563
♪ Is it ever coming
back again? ♪
1093
01:26:33,646 --> 01:26:35,607
♪ Take me back to
the feeling when… ♪
1094
01:26:35,690 --> 01:26:39,944
[Ocean] I wanna meet more sharks
and explore this beautiful planet.
1095
01:26:40,028 --> 01:26:42,238
While I'd like to be
able to continue that,
1096
01:26:42,322 --> 01:26:44,741
you know, you never know
when you're gonna go.
1097
01:26:46,242 --> 01:26:49,495
But if it happens from a shark, I'm
always big on going on the record of,
1098
01:26:49,579 --> 01:26:53,208
you know, I'm putting myself in
these more extreme situations.
1099
01:26:53,291 --> 01:26:55,126
So definitely don't
blame the shark.
1100
01:26:55,210 --> 01:26:57,086
["Waves" continues playing]
1101
01:26:57,170 --> 01:27:00,506
♪ And the freedom of falling ♪
1102
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:03,551
♪ The feeling I thought
was set in stone ♪
1103
01:27:03,635 --> 01:27:06,763
♪ It slips through my fingers ♪
1104
01:27:06,846 --> 01:27:09,140
♪ I'm trying hard to let go ♪
1105
01:27:09,224 --> 01:27:13,478
♪ It comes and goes in waves ♪
1106
01:27:13,561 --> 01:27:15,355
♪ It carries us away ♪
1107
01:27:15,438 --> 01:27:17,440
[song ends]
1108
01:27:18,524 --> 01:27:20,526
[soft music plays]
1109
01:28:14,622 --> 01:28:16,624
[music fades out]
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