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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,000 Oh man. 2 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:47,500 Let's move. 3 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:58,640 Oh my... I've never seen it like this. 4 00:01:04,926 --> 00:01:05,926 Jeez. 5 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:12,669 It's a lot bigger than I remember it being. 6 00:01:12,670 --> 00:01:16,150 This slab up here, this is the stage. 7 00:01:19,310 --> 00:01:26,509 When I died, I wanted my ashes to be like ground up like grind 8 00:01:26,510 --> 00:01:30,499 up a part of this and put my ashes into this middle section 9 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:34,308 because I thought this would be here forever. 10 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:39,979 I've never seen a nightclub like this. 11 00:01:39,980 --> 00:01:41,600 It had a feel. 12 00:01:44,730 --> 00:01:46,599 There's chandeliers. 13 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,200 There's stained glass. 14 00:01:51,780 --> 00:01:53,869 There was this mystique about it. 15 00:01:53,870 --> 00:01:57,799 There's mystery in the air. 16 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,530 This is my place. 17 00:01:58,530 --> 00:01:59,530 This is my home. 18 00:02:05,940 --> 00:02:08,923 It was just like an orgasm of life. 19 00:02:36,450 --> 00:02:39,599 It was, I think, summer of '86. 20 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,579 We're all skateboarding out in my driveway. 21 00:02:41,580 --> 00:02:44,579 And we all had the jam box out there cranked up. 22 00:02:44,580 --> 00:02:47,219 And then it went to the stupid commercial. 23 00:02:47,220 --> 00:02:49,730 It came back from that with a chainsaw ripping. 24 00:02:52,290 --> 00:02:53,939 We're all shouting, "Timber!" 25 00:02:53,940 --> 00:02:56,166 Because DOA had a song called Lumberjack City. 26 00:02:56,167 --> 00:02:58,749 No, timber happens, and we're like, what the hell is going on? 27 00:02:58,750 --> 00:03:01,769 And all of a sudden this like kick drum just kicks in. 28 00:03:01,770 --> 00:03:04,169 We hear this howling. 29 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:06,659 It sounded like the devil was like coming 30 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:08,279 through the speakers. 31 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,419 We run into the garage and get the phone. 32 00:03:10,420 --> 00:03:13,499 We're calling the station and waiting for 15 minutes 33 00:03:13,500 --> 00:03:14,175 like for them to answer. 34 00:03:14,176 --> 00:03:16,299 And finally, somebody answered and we're like, hey, 35 00:03:16,300 --> 00:03:19,599 you started this set off with there was a chainsaw. 36 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:20,380 It sounded like the devil. 37 00:03:20,380 --> 00:03:21,240 What was that? 38 00:03:21,241 --> 00:03:24,479 They're like, that was skinny puppy chainsaw. 39 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,839 It was just mind blowing. 40 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,259 And I'm like... 41 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,740 And it was that moment when I started wearing black. 42 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,000 I was a kid. 43 00:03:43,001 --> 00:03:46,649 I was about 11 years old, and there was a lounge near my house 44 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:48,119 where I grew up. 45 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,339 And I used to ride my bike over there after school. 46 00:03:50,340 --> 00:03:52,349 And they would be setting up the club. 47 00:03:52,350 --> 00:03:54,329 And the band would be rehearsing and they'd 48 00:03:54,330 --> 00:03:57,699 be putting the ashtrays out and washing down the rubber mats. 49 00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,109 And I thought, this is the coolest thing ever. 50 00:03:59,110 --> 00:04:01,252 This is what I want to do, right then and there 51 00:04:01,253 --> 00:04:03,170 that I wanted to be in the nightclub business. 52 00:04:06,660 --> 00:04:08,679 I worked at a club called After The Gold Rush. 53 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,660 I was 18. 54 00:04:09,661 --> 00:04:12,969 And I would do shitty jobs, cleaning the bar mats, 55 00:04:12,970 --> 00:04:14,169 scrubbing the floors. 56 00:04:14,170 --> 00:04:15,189 Terrible jobs. 57 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:18,129 But I was there all day, every day by myself. 58 00:04:18,130 --> 00:04:22,229 And so I used to go into the DJ booth and I would play records. 59 00:04:22,230 --> 00:04:25,349 And I sort of taught myself how to DJ. 60 00:04:25,350 --> 00:04:28,799 And one day, the DJ was sick. 61 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,199 I said, I can do it. 62 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,799 They're like, you? 63 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,849 And I'm like. 64 00:04:32,850 --> 00:04:34,309 And they said, all right. 65 00:04:34,310 --> 00:04:35,769 So I DJed. 66 00:04:35,770 --> 00:04:38,499 And After The Gold Rush, it was like 1976. 67 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:39,989 It was the disco era. 68 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:42,579 And I just got up and banged it out, man. 69 00:04:42,580 --> 00:04:45,119 I hit a home run because I thought 70 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:49,349 the coolest job in this whole nightclub is the DJ. 71 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:52,111 Well, now I really have the coolest job. 72 00:04:52,112 --> 00:04:53,819 Well, I just picked up the new Stevie Ray 73 00:04:53,820 --> 00:04:56,904 Vaughan live from Montrose CD, so I'm 74 00:04:56,905 --> 00:04:58,779 more into rock and roll and rhythm and blues, 75 00:04:58,780 --> 00:04:59,946 but I also like dance music. 76 00:04:59,947 --> 00:05:02,109 I was a DJ for 10 years before I was a club owner. 77 00:05:02,110 --> 00:05:03,110 Oh yeah. 78 00:05:10,170 --> 00:05:12,349 If you were in Deep Ellum in the early 80s, 79 00:05:12,350 --> 00:05:14,599 it would not look like what it looks now. 80 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:19,119 At that time it was warehouses, cheap rent. 81 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:23,169 It was just kind of a shadow of its former self, 82 00:05:23,170 --> 00:05:26,780 being the famous Deep Ellum of the 1930s. 83 00:05:28,358 --> 00:05:30,399 I got the Dallas blues 84 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,729 and I'm feeling mighty, a bit mighty. 85 00:05:33,730 --> 00:05:34,610 I mean sad. 86 00:05:34,611 --> 00:05:38,370 I got the Dallas blues and I'm feeling mighty sad. 87 00:05:41,140 --> 00:05:44,169 Deep Ellum has just such as incredibly rich history 88 00:05:44,170 --> 00:05:47,469 from blues being there, and that sort of... 89 00:05:47,470 --> 00:05:50,899 80s when it was sort of being revived, 90 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:52,369 making it a kind of destination. 91 00:05:52,370 --> 00:05:55,119 There was no Goth scene. 92 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,219 In the time we called it industrial. 93 00:05:57,220 --> 00:06:01,399 Goth, really, I don't think was coalescing yet. 94 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,285 And it really took the clubs to do that. 95 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:11,229 Clubs that were operating in those early 80 years 96 00:06:11,230 --> 00:06:16,299 were a reaction to the prominent way in which Dallas 97 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:17,379 thought of itself. 98 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:19,719 All of those people who didn't fit 99 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:23,679 in to a sort of traditional nightclub 100 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,580 would find people like them at the start. 101 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,719 The Starck Club was groundbreaking. 102 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,369 What they did was really innovative and way ahead 103 00:06:35,370 --> 00:06:36,959 of its time. 104 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:38,529 Philippe Starck designed the space. 105 00:06:38,530 --> 00:06:39,899 It was an incredible space. 106 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,809 Everything about it was glamorous. 107 00:06:42,810 --> 00:06:46,799 Many people who went to star Starck spent like all day trying 108 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,819 to figure out what to wear. 109 00:06:47,820 --> 00:06:49,349 There were certainly some people who 110 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:51,689 were dressed somewhat in Goth. 111 00:06:51,690 --> 00:06:55,619 But musically, I think the Starck Club really 112 00:06:55,620 --> 00:06:57,180 broke new ground. 113 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:02,519 It's music that was descendant 114 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,469 of synthpop and disco. 115 00:07:05,470 --> 00:07:07,709 That music that was so innovative and so 116 00:07:07,710 --> 00:07:12,149 progressive, we incorporated a lot of it into The Church. 117 00:07:12,150 --> 00:07:17,309 Starck set a tone that the church and Lizard Lounge 118 00:07:17,310 --> 00:07:19,779 sort of carried on. 119 00:07:19,780 --> 00:07:20,869 Everything about Starck Club inspired me. 120 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:21,870 Everything. 121 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,429 In 1988, dad decides that we're 122 00:07:31,430 --> 00:07:33,239 moving back to Arlington. 123 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,839 And it was like the first couple of weeks of school. 124 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,329 I'm in English class, and this guy would show up late. 125 00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:43,589 And he had this just total disregard for everything look. 126 00:07:43,590 --> 00:07:45,289 He just looked cool. 127 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:47,179 I see that he's wearing a Skinny Puppy shirt. 128 00:07:47,180 --> 00:07:47,947 And I look over. 129 00:07:47,948 --> 00:07:49,529 I'm like, dude, you like Skinny Puppy? 130 00:07:49,530 --> 00:07:50,520 He's like, yeah. 131 00:07:50,521 --> 00:07:51,569 You know Skinny Puppy? 132 00:07:51,570 --> 00:07:52,440 And I'm like, yeah. 133 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:53,398 And I show him my book. 134 00:07:53,399 --> 00:07:55,549 I had drawn the logo on the cover. 135 00:07:55,550 --> 00:07:57,239 A couple of weeks later, he's like, 136 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,499 hey, what are you doing Friday night? 137 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:00,124 Well, there's a party, you should come. 138 00:08:00,125 --> 00:08:01,469 And I'm like, OK, cool. 139 00:08:01,470 --> 00:08:03,139 And I go to this party. 140 00:08:03,140 --> 00:08:04,239 I'm like scared. 141 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:05,989 And I'm looking at everybody, and they all 142 00:08:05,990 --> 00:08:09,329 look like heavy metal rock stars. 143 00:08:09,330 --> 00:08:12,115 And the girls all look like rock star video girls. 144 00:08:15,637 --> 00:08:18,219 I look up, and there's my friend coming through the front door 145 00:08:18,220 --> 00:08:18,720 with ice. 146 00:08:18,721 --> 00:08:20,499 I'm like, dude, I don't know anybody here. 147 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:22,249 I thought this was like high school party. 148 00:08:22,250 --> 00:08:25,209 He's like, oh, no, this is Vinnie and Daryl's place 149 00:08:25,210 --> 00:08:26,269 from Pantera. 150 00:08:26,270 --> 00:08:28,299 He leaves again, and I'm just sitting there. 151 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:32,559 And all of a sudden this girl falls out of heaven or something 152 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:33,849 into my lap. 153 00:08:33,850 --> 00:08:36,649 And then she says, hey, let's go to Empire. 154 00:08:36,650 --> 00:08:38,894 And I'm like, OK. 155 00:08:38,895 --> 00:08:40,519 I'm like, I don't know where I'm going. 156 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,168 And I got to be home by midnight. 157 00:08:42,169 --> 00:08:44,619 And it was like the long way to get to downtown Dallas. 158 00:08:44,620 --> 00:08:45,829 It's just so unreal. 159 00:08:45,830 --> 00:08:48,219 It's unreal how big these buildings are all lit up. 160 00:08:48,220 --> 00:08:49,400 And it's beautiful. 161 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:58,576 So we pass downtown, and we go into this bridge. 162 00:08:58,577 --> 00:09:00,409 And then everything is like lower buildings. 163 00:09:00,410 --> 00:09:02,419 They're like two, three story high, 164 00:09:02,420 --> 00:09:06,799 but like a lot more neon and a lot of graffiti 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,729 and a lot of punk looking people. 166 00:09:08,730 --> 00:09:10,619 And I'm like, oh, this is cool. 167 00:09:10,620 --> 00:09:11,300 What is this? 168 00:09:11,301 --> 00:09:13,512 And she said, oh, this is Deep Ellum. 169 00:09:13,513 --> 00:09:14,929 And we're driving through, and I'm 170 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:17,789 seeing people with Mohawks and different colored hair. 171 00:09:17,790 --> 00:09:20,609 And I'm just like, I'm tripping out. 172 00:09:20,610 --> 00:09:22,489 But I got scared because all of a sudden 173 00:09:22,490 --> 00:09:25,429 it went from being this neon jungle of punk 174 00:09:25,430 --> 00:09:27,349 and new wave looking people everywhere 175 00:09:27,350 --> 00:09:29,129 to nothing but warehouses. 176 00:09:29,130 --> 00:09:32,609 And I'm like, they're going to kill me. 177 00:09:32,610 --> 00:09:36,449 They're going to tie me to a pole and kill me. 178 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:38,349 And we turn down from good Latimer. 179 00:09:38,350 --> 00:09:40,559 We turn on to Swiss Avenue. 180 00:09:40,560 --> 00:09:43,199 As we turn the corner, I realized that, oh, 181 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:45,979 there's another club here. 182 00:09:45,980 --> 00:09:52,399 And we walk in and my mind is completely blown away. 183 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,849 There's chandeliers. 184 00:09:53,850 --> 00:09:55,529 There's stained glass. 185 00:09:55,530 --> 00:09:57,619 I look at the spiral staircase going up 186 00:09:57,620 --> 00:10:00,437 to the second floor with this little chandelier hanging there. 187 00:10:00,438 --> 00:10:01,729 And I'm like, this is gorgeous. 188 00:10:01,730 --> 00:10:03,649 This is amazing. 189 00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:05,154 There are all these people dancing. 190 00:10:05,155 --> 00:10:06,299 And I hear the music. 191 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:07,487 I'm like, this place is so awesome. 192 00:10:07,488 --> 00:10:09,709 She goes, this is just the entryway. 193 00:10:09,710 --> 00:10:12,179 And I'm like, OK. 194 00:10:12,180 --> 00:10:13,709 And she takes me in. 195 00:10:13,710 --> 00:10:19,679 And it was just this big room with moving lights everywhere, 196 00:10:19,680 --> 00:10:20,570 disco balls. 197 00:10:20,571 --> 00:10:23,099 The music was Lucretia, My Reflection. 198 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:24,139 I remember the song. 199 00:10:24,140 --> 00:10:25,169 This is my home. 200 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:26,100 I want to be here. 201 00:10:26,101 --> 00:10:27,239 I want to be here. 202 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:35,240 And this was 2424 Swiss. 203 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:39,129 To me, Empire at that location at 2424 Swiss kind of 204 00:10:39,130 --> 00:10:43,829 became the club extension of my radio show, pre Lizard Lounge. 205 00:10:43,830 --> 00:10:48,139 It's 3:30, and you're listening to KNON 90.9 FM Dallas. 206 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:51,109 My name is Jeff K. Time once again for Thud Slap. 207 00:10:51,110 --> 00:10:52,569 Everything I played had to have 208 00:10:52,570 --> 00:10:57,819 that kind of electronic almost aggro beat, bands 209 00:10:57,820 --> 00:11:02,409 like Xymox, Tackhead, The Neon Judgment. 210 00:11:02,410 --> 00:11:05,199 Well, there was only one place in Dallas 211 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,364 that those bands played and that was Empire. 212 00:11:07,365 --> 00:11:08,240 That's right. 213 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,157 We're here with Xymox. 214 00:11:09,158 --> 00:11:12,212 And remember, folks, they're playing this evening at Empire. 215 00:11:12,213 --> 00:11:13,130 It's good to have you. 216 00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:15,139 How is it in Dallas today? 217 00:11:15,140 --> 00:11:16,149 Pretty hot, isn't it? 218 00:11:16,150 --> 00:11:17,259 Oh, yes, yes. 219 00:11:17,260 --> 00:11:18,319 Too hot for you? 220 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,361 I'm melting. 221 00:11:19,362 --> 00:11:20,379 You're melting? 222 00:11:20,380 --> 00:11:22,190 Well, that's interesting. 223 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,889 I got a phone call from a guy named 224 00:11:28,890 --> 00:11:32,139 Frank Rigney who told me I heard from a real estate broker 225 00:11:32,140 --> 00:11:33,789 you were looking for a space in Dallas. 226 00:11:33,790 --> 00:11:35,579 And I have a space. 227 00:11:35,580 --> 00:11:38,224 Originally, it was a trolley car repair station. 228 00:11:38,225 --> 00:11:39,849 And it wasn't so much a repair station. 229 00:11:39,850 --> 00:11:41,229 It was like a parts depot. 230 00:11:41,230 --> 00:11:43,439 There's a trolley track that runs right 231 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,419 in front of the place. 232 00:11:45,420 --> 00:11:48,369 In the 1940s, it became a furniture warehouse. 233 00:11:48,370 --> 00:11:53,819 And in 1974, Frank Rigney redesigned that space 234 00:11:53,820 --> 00:11:57,659 to convert it from a furniture warehouse into a dinner theater. 235 00:11:57,660 --> 00:12:00,899 And they brought in this baccarat chandelier, 236 00:12:00,900 --> 00:12:03,609 which when you walk into that space, it's breathtaking. 237 00:12:03,610 --> 00:12:04,869 It was really opulent. 238 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:09,149 It was a beautiful room with the red carpet, the red drapes 239 00:12:09,150 --> 00:12:10,239 and gold chains. 240 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,849 I mean, it was very Gothic looking. 241 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:14,945 And it was 2424 Swiss Avenue. 242 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:28,520 What's up, Joe? 243 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,220 Good to see you, man. 244 00:12:29,220 --> 00:12:29,760 How you doing, man? 245 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:30,302 Doing good. 246 00:12:30,302 --> 00:12:31,130 Doing good. 247 00:12:31,131 --> 00:12:34,369 It's been a while since I've been in here. 248 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:36,469 It's emotional walking in here. 249 00:12:36,470 --> 00:12:39,709 Obviously it stirs up some emotion. 250 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:42,259 I spent 28 years in this room. 251 00:12:42,260 --> 00:12:43,260 I was here every night. 252 00:12:47,650 --> 00:12:51,579 I remember the first night I had the keys to this building. 253 00:12:51,580 --> 00:12:56,559 My partner and I sat in chairs right here and right here 254 00:12:56,560 --> 00:12:59,199 and just looked around this space. 255 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,949 And we couldn't believe it was ours 256 00:13:02,950 --> 00:13:08,529 because I had come in here in 1988 when it was the Empire. 257 00:13:08,530 --> 00:13:10,699 And I love this space. 258 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:12,699 And I just wouldn't have believed you 259 00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:14,799 if you told me then three years later, 260 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:19,986 I would be operating a Lizard Lounge out of this very room. 261 00:13:30,247 --> 00:13:31,829 I was still in high school. 262 00:13:31,830 --> 00:13:33,746 And I heard about this place called the Lizard 263 00:13:33,747 --> 00:13:34,889 Lounge that was opening. 264 00:13:34,890 --> 00:13:38,529 The advertisements were all techno and it was just like... 265 00:13:38,530 --> 00:13:43,619 Tonight the Lizard Lounge presents tickets are only $5 266 00:13:43,620 --> 00:13:46,749 for over 21 at the lizard Lounge. 267 00:13:46,750 --> 00:13:51,749 2424 Swiss Avenue live The Lounge. 268 00:13:51,750 --> 00:13:54,989 I've never been more nervous in my life, but we did it. 269 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:59,339 And we opened December 19, 1991. 270 00:13:59,340 --> 00:14:00,550 It was packed. 271 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,429 And I connected with a guy named Jeff K. 272 00:14:08,430 --> 00:14:11,549 And Jeff was a guy who really opened my eyes 273 00:14:11,550 --> 00:14:14,129 and taught me about rave culture. 274 00:14:14,130 --> 00:14:17,309 It really all starts with the first two performances 275 00:14:17,310 --> 00:14:19,209 that Don and I worked on together, 276 00:14:19,210 --> 00:14:22,269 and that would have been the prodigy in 1992. 277 00:14:22,270 --> 00:14:25,209 And then later that same year, Moby. 278 00:14:25,210 --> 00:14:29,854 The first artist that really got my attention was Moby. 279 00:14:29,855 --> 00:14:32,249 He is considered by many to be one 280 00:14:32,250 --> 00:14:34,599 of the true pioneers of techno. 281 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:35,769 Moby. 282 00:14:35,770 --> 00:14:39,099 And he's coming to the Lizard Lounge. 283 00:14:39,100 --> 00:14:42,369 When we booked Moby, we had 1,000 people in line. 284 00:14:42,370 --> 00:14:44,439 And I'm out in front of the club. 285 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,399 I saw Moby walking under the freeway. 286 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,899 He came up and he said, man, that's some line. 287 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:52,729 I said, this is the line of people who can't get in. 288 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:55,539 And he said, well, what are you going to do? 289 00:14:55,540 --> 00:14:57,219 I said, I have no idea. 290 00:14:57,220 --> 00:14:59,539 When it was time for Moby to show up to the venue, 291 00:14:59,540 --> 00:15:01,549 he saw so many people that he said, 292 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:04,419 you know what, why don't we do two shows? 293 00:15:04,420 --> 00:15:07,809 That really gave me perspective 294 00:15:07,810 --> 00:15:11,449 as to how significant the whole EDM scene is. 295 00:15:11,450 --> 00:15:15,500 And I saw the future right there. 296 00:15:42,530 --> 00:15:45,109 Don really had his finger on the pulse, 297 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:48,889 knowing what was going to be the next big thing, the Lizard 298 00:15:48,890 --> 00:15:52,259 Lounge, techno, DJs as rock stars. 299 00:15:52,260 --> 00:15:54,319 He predicted all that you would get. 300 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,339 Paul Van Dyk, Armin van Buuren, Steve Aoki, LMFAO, Dead Mouse, 301 00:15:59,340 --> 00:16:01,374 tons of Moby, Moby. 302 00:16:01,375 --> 00:16:02,749 Don was one of the first people 303 00:16:02,750 --> 00:16:05,399 to start bringing electronic acts to Dallas. 304 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,819 He would bring the people to perform that were 305 00:16:07,820 --> 00:16:08,999 just records up until then. 306 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,229 No one had seen them perform. 307 00:16:10,230 --> 00:16:12,437 No one had knew what they looked like and everything. 308 00:16:12,438 --> 00:16:14,779 You would get high level DJs like Paul Oakenfold. 309 00:16:14,780 --> 00:16:16,319 I love that venue. 310 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,269 That venue, the setup, the white is pretty intense 311 00:16:20,270 --> 00:16:21,419 to perform there. 312 00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:23,549 The Dallas crowd are fantastic. 313 00:16:23,550 --> 00:16:25,829 They're really into electronic music. 314 00:16:25,830 --> 00:16:28,440 This city was a pioneer in club culture. 315 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:35,560 Club culture. 316 00:17:05,702 --> 00:17:07,659 Guy named Larry Siegel called me up 317 00:17:07,660 --> 00:17:09,769 and he said, hey, I've got the space in Miami. 318 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:11,669 I know you've got that Lizard Lounge concept. 319 00:17:11,670 --> 00:17:12,858 We think it's a good fit. 320 00:17:12,859 --> 00:17:16,369 And we went to Miami and we opened the Lizard Lounge. 321 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,909 On Sunday night, there was a nightclub called Velvet. 322 00:17:28,910 --> 00:17:32,629 And inside Velvet, they had a night called The Church. 323 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:34,649 I thought the music was incredible. 324 00:17:34,650 --> 00:17:38,699 It was heavier, harder, deeper. 325 00:17:38,700 --> 00:17:40,819 Yeah, way darker. 326 00:17:40,820 --> 00:17:43,979 It wasn't particularly a Goth club per se, 327 00:17:43,980 --> 00:17:46,599 but it was a big ingredient of the night. 328 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,969 You had your college kids. 329 00:17:47,970 --> 00:17:49,439 You had your Goth kids. 330 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,449 You had your hip hop kids. 331 00:17:51,450 --> 00:17:53,479 And everybody got along. 332 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,809 And we loved The Church. 333 00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:56,189 We went there every Sunday night. 334 00:17:56,190 --> 00:18:00,859 But eventually, the Lizard Lounge in Miami failed. 335 00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:03,509 When I came back to Dallas, I was broke. 336 00:18:03,510 --> 00:18:06,929 And I said, we had this experience in Miami. 337 00:18:06,930 --> 00:18:09,599 Let's try to take something positive from it. 338 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,160 So I reached out to Carlos Menendez and I said, look... 339 00:18:21,310 --> 00:18:24,762 I wanted to create the feeling I got when I walked into Miami, 340 00:18:24,763 --> 00:18:27,363 and the idea that we took forward was The Church. 341 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,649 The Church breathed new life into the Lizard Lounge. 342 00:19:01,650 --> 00:19:04,399 Slowly but surely, just grabbing any customer 343 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,859 we could get to tell them we got this really cool thing 344 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:08,169 happening on Sunday night. 345 00:19:08,170 --> 00:19:09,709 You should come check it out. 346 00:19:09,710 --> 00:19:12,467 The way that I would describe the church to people from out 347 00:19:12,468 --> 00:19:14,759 of town that want to know what our club's like, I said, 348 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,959 watch any of those movies from the late 90s when they go 349 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,809 to this massive club with all these people and vinyl 350 00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:24,509 and spikes and leather and really cool looking clubs. 351 00:19:24,510 --> 00:19:26,809 The church was that in red. 352 00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:28,759 There was this mystique about it. 353 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,309 There's mystery in the air. 354 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:32,449 Magic. 355 00:19:32,450 --> 00:19:36,659 There's also decadence and debauchery and indulgence. 356 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:40,289 But there's this energy and this connection between everyone 357 00:19:40,290 --> 00:19:40,790 there. 358 00:19:40,791 --> 00:19:42,622 Because you would see all kinds of people, 359 00:19:42,623 --> 00:19:44,489 punks, and new wavers and goths. 360 00:19:44,490 --> 00:19:48,199 Everybody was like their super selves. 361 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,449 I remember hearing about The Church. 362 00:19:50,450 --> 00:19:53,459 I was in my last year of high school. 363 00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:57,759 It was 1994 and there were radio ads for it. 364 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,369 Give her what she knows, not what she does. 365 00:20:02,370 --> 00:20:06,159 An industrial strength dose of divine intervention. 366 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,974 Sundays at The Church. 367 00:20:07,975 --> 00:20:09,599 It's one of the few times that the ad 368 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,819 rings true because it was all of these people sort of ironically, 369 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:14,169 wearing a religious clothing. 370 00:20:14,170 --> 00:20:16,169 But we didn't really have a religion, of course. 371 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:18,789 There were several Satanists. 372 00:20:18,790 --> 00:20:21,771 They had this huge, massive statue. 373 00:20:21,772 --> 00:20:23,229 And he's looking down at the crowd. 374 00:20:23,230 --> 00:20:25,629 And it's just menacing and huge. 375 00:20:25,630 --> 00:20:30,689 You see how everything is designed and decorated. 376 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:34,870 All of that plays a part in creating this atmosphere. 377 00:20:48,273 --> 00:20:49,689 We presented ourselves 378 00:20:49,690 --> 00:20:51,134 like we were really a church. 379 00:20:51,135 --> 00:20:52,509 And I think to some degree that's 380 00:20:52,510 --> 00:20:54,819 where the sense of community started to come in. 381 00:20:54,820 --> 00:20:57,699 Walking into that club for the first time 382 00:20:57,700 --> 00:21:02,439 and seeing that dance floor and how many people that were there 383 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,209 dressed up. 384 00:21:04,210 --> 00:21:05,899 There was no hot topic. 385 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:08,659 The women, they would have to make their own clothes. 386 00:21:08,660 --> 00:21:13,179 You're either in gowns that you probably got at Goodwill 387 00:21:13,180 --> 00:21:15,909 and made look Victorian and Gothic. 388 00:21:15,910 --> 00:21:18,909 Lots of long, flowy skirts. 389 00:21:18,910 --> 00:21:24,099 Lots of electrical tape covering private parts. 390 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:29,979 People who knew who they were and seemed 391 00:21:29,980 --> 00:21:34,899 very accepting of everyone. 392 00:21:34,900 --> 00:21:37,959 You had people that were non-binary and people that were 393 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:38,900 binary. 394 00:21:38,901 --> 00:21:40,489 You had drag queens. 395 00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:42,619 You had people that were straight. 396 00:21:42,620 --> 00:21:44,109 You had people that were gay. 397 00:21:44,110 --> 00:21:46,699 We had a guy that used to do pony play. 398 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,339 He had these pony hooves, and he had a saddle. 399 00:21:49,340 --> 00:21:51,439 And people used to ride him around the club. 400 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,599 The whole idea behind the church 401 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,399 is always sort of like misfits island, everyone Welcome. 402 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:57,919 And it was like that in the very beginning. 403 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,269 The fact that there's this club for outcasts. 404 00:22:00,270 --> 00:22:02,269 And that's what I think most people... most of us 405 00:22:02,270 --> 00:22:04,339 were in high school and middle school and stuff. 406 00:22:04,340 --> 00:22:07,599 It's funny now that I come here, and I 407 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:08,310 was an outcast in high school. 408 00:22:08,311 --> 00:22:09,679 I never was popular. 409 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,259 And all of a sudden I'm popular now here. 410 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:15,829 People like to dress up and play a personality, especially 411 00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:17,376 a dark personality. 412 00:22:17,377 --> 00:22:19,459 I had a guy when we first opened The Church that 413 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:21,139 used to dress like a Unabomber. 414 00:22:21,140 --> 00:22:23,989 He had a hoodie and sunglasses, and he used to hide 415 00:22:23,990 --> 00:22:25,559 and dart around corners. 416 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,499 He also dressed as Ed Gein. 417 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,739 He would dance on the dance floor 418 00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:33,239 with the shovel and the hat. 419 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,662 A real shovel. 420 00:22:34,663 --> 00:22:36,204 And then there were the people that 421 00:22:36,205 --> 00:22:38,699 were playing masquerade all over the place, 422 00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:40,369 and they were dressed like vampires. 423 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:42,529 They'd all have their notebooks with them, 424 00:22:42,530 --> 00:22:43,889 keeping track of everything. 425 00:22:43,890 --> 00:22:45,389 And it's like, oh, don't talk to me. 426 00:22:45,390 --> 00:22:46,130 I'm invisible. 427 00:22:46,131 --> 00:22:48,799 OK, so. 428 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:49,909 We learned that there 429 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:55,519 are a bunch of people who don't fit in to mainstream society. 430 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,969 And The Church was becoming the center of community 431 00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:02,179 to the Gothic alternative crowd in Dallas. 432 00:23:02,180 --> 00:23:04,399 Honest, this is the best club in America. 433 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,129 And it's ironic that it's in Dallas, Texas. 434 00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:09,779 There's a stereotypical view of Dallas, Texas. 435 00:23:09,780 --> 00:23:11,429 Yeah, we're Kennedy killers. 436 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:12,779 We're Cowboys. 437 00:23:12,780 --> 00:23:15,829 And that's probably been the fertile ground 438 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:17,790 that has bred The Church. 439 00:23:21,710 --> 00:23:23,553 I would follow you forever. 440 00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:29,359 I was raised in a very conservative Southern Baptist 441 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,509 family, and I'm Wiccan. 442 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:35,149 So it never really... 443 00:23:35,150 --> 00:23:39,559 I never really fit in my family or in the town I grew up in. 444 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,819 We hold no bias towards religion, race, creed, 445 00:23:43,820 --> 00:23:44,710 or anything. 446 00:23:44,711 --> 00:23:46,339 Anybody is welcome. 447 00:23:46,340 --> 00:23:48,635 Our main goal is that you have fun. 448 00:23:52,690 --> 00:23:53,839 I work railroads. 449 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,129 I make steel. 450 00:23:55,130 --> 00:23:57,699 I work in steel factories and stuff like that, 451 00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:59,679 but no one... everyone there, it's like everyone's in a suit 452 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,310 and hard hats. 453 00:24:00,311 --> 00:24:03,169 No one expects it. 454 00:24:03,170 --> 00:24:07,529 There is nothing more exciting and passionate than the fact, 455 00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:11,299 getting under the spotlights, center stage, 456 00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,729 hearing the music pounding behind you, 457 00:24:13,730 --> 00:24:18,439 and feeling that energy come up through your veins. 458 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,139 Rule number one of dancing is don't give 459 00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:23,220 a damn what anybody thinks. 460 00:24:50,620 --> 00:24:52,904 Can you do it tighter in the middle there, baby? 461 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:06,700 Hey, man. 462 00:25:06,701 --> 00:25:08,155 Thank you. 463 00:25:08,156 --> 00:25:09,156 How you doing? 464 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:26,159 In 1997, I moved into my own place, 465 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,299 first time living by myself. 466 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,169 And I bought this dry erase board. 467 00:25:31,170 --> 00:25:33,609 I mapped it out a weekly schedule. 468 00:25:33,610 --> 00:25:36,329 Sunday at the top, it said, take over The Church. 469 00:25:36,330 --> 00:25:39,627 And then you'd go down to Thursday, take over the church, 470 00:25:39,628 --> 00:25:41,169 because I want it to be the DJ there. 471 00:25:41,170 --> 00:25:44,509 And one night I'm there, and Leo, the general manager, 472 00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:45,100 is there. 473 00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:46,000 And I knew him already. 474 00:25:46,001 --> 00:25:47,321 I had already met him before. 475 00:25:47,322 --> 00:25:48,779 But I would go up to him like, hey, 476 00:25:48,780 --> 00:25:51,799 man, so when you want a real goth DJ, 477 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,162 a real DJ here, give me a call because I felt that there was 478 00:25:55,163 --> 00:25:56,579 a lot of music that wasn't getting 479 00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:58,919 played that needed to be played. 480 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,240 So I was like, I want to take over The Church. 481 00:26:05,678 --> 00:26:07,469 I don't remember the first time 482 00:26:07,470 --> 00:26:09,199 I walked into the space. 483 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,809 I actually cannot remember. 484 00:26:10,810 --> 00:26:14,579 I don't have a very good memory for a lot of reasons. 485 00:26:14,580 --> 00:26:19,499 What I do remember was the atmosphere. 486 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:20,559 It was club lighting. 487 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,959 It was a feeling of these are my people. 488 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,589 Helen used to be Don Edwards' wife 489 00:26:28,590 --> 00:26:31,809 asked me if I would be interested to DJ at The Church. 490 00:26:31,810 --> 00:26:34,299 And Don created a night for me. 491 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,169 It was called PTL. 492 00:26:37,170 --> 00:26:38,639 Praise the Lord. 493 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,980 And my DJ name and still is today is Lord Byron. 494 00:26:44,430 --> 00:26:47,889 It was no secret to everybody about how much I used to drink, 495 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:51,729 but I did that abusively while working at The Church. 496 00:26:51,730 --> 00:26:56,189 And my last night at The Church was during an alcoholic blackout 497 00:26:56,190 --> 00:26:59,699 where I was informed I was throwing music or records out 498 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:00,809 into the audience. 499 00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:03,869 I ripped Helen's earring out of her ear. 500 00:27:03,870 --> 00:27:06,899 And then friends threw me into a vehicle and got me out of there. 501 00:27:06,900 --> 00:27:08,250 And that was my last night. 502 00:27:15,980 --> 00:27:18,739 I disconnected from night light completely 503 00:27:18,740 --> 00:27:22,129 until I ended up with my fifth DWI, 504 00:27:22,130 --> 00:27:24,130 and that's when I got sober. 505 00:27:46,380 --> 00:27:48,759 About 3 and 1/2 years into my sobriety, 506 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,799 I really miss nightlife and not as a patron, but I wanted to DJ. 507 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,699 I wanted to be a part of that energy the way that I used to. 508 00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:00,369 I initially approached Don about the idea of Panopticon. 509 00:28:00,370 --> 00:28:03,419 I said, listen, I'm sober, and I would 510 00:28:03,420 --> 00:28:06,209 love to have an opportunity to DJ again. 511 00:28:06,210 --> 00:28:08,649 I'm not even sure he fully believed me at that time. 512 00:28:08,650 --> 00:28:10,282 I mean, I don't blame him at all. 513 00:28:10,283 --> 00:28:11,200 I don't blame anybody. 514 00:28:11,201 --> 00:28:13,559 I'm not sure anybody who knew me really 515 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,409 knew that I could be sober. 516 00:28:16,410 --> 00:28:20,879 And also the early days of Panopticon, I just... 517 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,289 I was sober. 518 00:28:22,290 --> 00:28:23,319 I wasn't social. 519 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:24,669 I couldn't talk to anybody. 520 00:28:24,670 --> 00:28:28,279 So I led a very closeted life. 521 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,639 Later I was dating who's now my husband, Yuri. 522 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:38,559 And through that relationship I was able to come out. 523 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,509 After I was able to bring Gary into the mix 524 00:28:40,510 --> 00:28:43,329 and walk into my own club night, holding the hand of somebody 525 00:28:43,330 --> 00:28:45,309 that I truly cared about, I felt like I 526 00:28:45,310 --> 00:28:50,529 could breathe, not just in my club night, but just in my life. 527 00:28:50,530 --> 00:28:52,899 I was honest with everybody. 528 00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:54,456 And I was so well embraced. 529 00:28:54,457 --> 00:28:55,789 It was like not even a big deal. 530 00:28:55,790 --> 00:28:57,639 I look back and it was kind of ironic 531 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,639 because I created this night called Panopticon, certainly 532 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,299 inspired by The Church, which is a safe space for everybody. 533 00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:07,431 I just still wasn't comfortable enough in my own skin. 534 00:29:07,432 --> 00:29:08,889 I can see how people have struggled 535 00:29:08,890 --> 00:29:12,259 with alcohol and drugs and mental illness, 536 00:29:12,260 --> 00:29:14,385 and it's just not always the easy thing. 537 00:29:16,940 --> 00:29:21,589 Panopticon just evolved into one of these safe spaces 538 00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:22,560 for people too. 539 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,370 I didn't know it. 540 00:29:23,371 --> 00:29:25,129 I didn't put a sign out there. 541 00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:28,609 It made me feel really good that Panopticon turned 542 00:29:28,610 --> 00:29:31,789 into this place of non judgment and anybody 543 00:29:31,790 --> 00:29:34,399 could walk into the doors of Panopticon 544 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,999 just like at The Church and feel they could be themselves 545 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,360 without judgment, without prejudice. 546 00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:22,979 It was nice to go into The Church 547 00:30:22,980 --> 00:30:25,499 because I didn't have to explain who I was, 548 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:27,699 and nobody ever asked. 549 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:31,299 But I could have gone to The Church from day one 550 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,849 and explained who I was, and everybody would 551 00:30:33,850 --> 00:30:37,146 have loved me just the same. 552 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:43,269 One day I get a phone call. 553 00:30:43,270 --> 00:30:44,529 It's Leo from The Church. 554 00:30:44,530 --> 00:30:47,139 And he's like, hey, you still want a DJ here? 555 00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:50,319 And I'm like, of course. 556 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,399 He's like, all right. 557 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,229 Let's start you the first Thursday of January. 558 00:30:55,230 --> 00:30:57,929 And I'm like, OK, cool. 559 00:30:57,930 --> 00:30:58,830 All right. 560 00:30:58,831 --> 00:31:00,599 All right, cool. 561 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:00,990 See you there. 562 00:31:00,991 --> 00:31:03,659 So I'm like, oh, this is the start. 563 00:31:03,660 --> 00:31:04,457 This is the start. 564 00:31:04,458 --> 00:31:05,790 This is the start of everything. 565 00:31:30,933 --> 00:31:33,579 Joe is absolutely a master at his craft, 566 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:37,409 and he's great about bringing a room together and just bringing 567 00:31:37,410 --> 00:31:39,677 power into a dance floor. 568 00:31:39,678 --> 00:31:41,969 I always felt like I was going to get fired. 569 00:31:41,970 --> 00:31:43,589 That they're trying to replace me because Don 570 00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:45,159 never really talked to me before. 571 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,969 I had this weird intimidation factor with him. 572 00:31:47,970 --> 00:31:51,279 One night, tanked the room, nobody in there. 573 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:57,299 So I'm like, OK, I'm going to play Baby Got Back. 574 00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:58,869 Crowd went nuts. 575 00:31:58,870 --> 00:32:01,389 And I'm just like, this is awesome. 576 00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:03,639 So then Clint comes over to me, and he's our door guy. 577 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,109 Clint comes running over and says, 578 00:32:05,110 --> 00:32:07,449 hey, Don wants to see you outside real quick. 579 00:32:07,450 --> 00:32:10,239 And I'm like, shit, I'm getting fired. 580 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:10,990 I'm getting fired. 581 00:32:10,991 --> 00:32:12,447 Don's calling me out on the carpet. 582 00:32:12,448 --> 00:32:17,099 I get out there and he's like, Joe, 583 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,919 what made you decide to do this Goth hop thing? 584 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:26,259 Well... and he's like, well, whatever you're doing, 585 00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:27,869 keep doing it because that's awesome. 586 00:32:27,870 --> 00:32:32,699 And I'm like, oh, I didn't die. 587 00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:33,575 I do remember a lot of nights where 588 00:32:33,576 --> 00:32:34,949 there wasn't a packed dance floor 589 00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:37,479 and I'm like waiting for Don to come running down the stairs. 590 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:38,313 But you know what? 591 00:32:38,314 --> 00:32:44,249 I never used the dance floor as a barometer of success for a DJ. 592 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:47,669 If you're not going for it, and you're not dumping your dance 593 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:49,799 floor, you're just not trying. 594 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,099 You can't be afraid to try something new. 595 00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,499 I felt like we needed to inject new life into The Church 596 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:57,549 to start reaching a broader audience. 597 00:32:57,550 --> 00:33:00,749 Live music, we felt, was really important. 598 00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,560 Man, so many bands. 599 00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,554 It was fun. 600 00:33:42,340 --> 00:33:46,819 Well, I think, first of all, the history, the location, 601 00:33:46,820 --> 00:33:48,829 the background of all the bands that played in. 602 00:33:48,830 --> 00:33:51,429 I think the more everybody plays there, you walk in 603 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:55,299 and it has an aura about it, the whole feeling. 604 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,299 I was very surprised to see this kind of club 605 00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:03,159 with this kind of decoration and beautiful elements in it. 606 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,249 It's important to us as a band to give 607 00:34:06,250 --> 00:34:09,599 the audience an experience rather than just put on a show. 608 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,388 It was very easy at The Church to create the kind of atmosphere 609 00:34:13,389 --> 00:34:14,812 that we like to create. 610 00:34:14,813 --> 00:34:16,729 It makes me so happy just thinking about it, 611 00:34:16,730 --> 00:34:18,519 and I would get so excited when we had 612 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,499 a show booked for The Church. 613 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,579 The Church was just so spectacular looking. 614 00:34:24,580 --> 00:34:30,698 And it just looks sort of like a place where vampire royalty were 615 00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:32,979 assembling for a ball. 616 00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:34,809 I kind of knew like, OK, this is 617 00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:36,638 one of these clubs that is going to become 618 00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,399 part of our weird history. 619 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,178 It was like a very anything goes kind of place, 620 00:34:41,179 --> 00:34:42,289 and I love that about it. 621 00:34:42,290 --> 00:34:45,109 All types, all different flavors. 622 00:34:45,110 --> 00:34:47,157 It was just fun. 623 00:34:52,650 --> 00:34:55,289 And that's this. 624 00:34:55,290 --> 00:34:58,929 In '86, I told my mom and dad, I'm like, I want to play synths, 625 00:34:58,930 --> 00:35:02,791 I want to play keyboards, and I want to sound like Skinny Puppy. 626 00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:03,999 I'll leave it, I'll leave it. 627 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Turn it down. 628 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,559 Let's get this going. 629 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,379 Don Nadler called me in 2009 about Cevin Key 630 00:35:12,380 --> 00:35:14,309 from skinny puppy wanting to do a DJ gig, 631 00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:16,419 and I was like, hell, yeah, jump on it. 632 00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:16,920 Do it. 633 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,420 Yes. 634 00:35:17,421 --> 00:35:18,479 Don got us in touch. 635 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,299 So he asked if I had any synthesizers 636 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:21,479 I could bring to the club. 637 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,339 I think I brought my pro one out that first... no, no, I 638 00:35:24,340 --> 00:35:26,809 don't think we... because we didn't know each other yet. 639 00:35:26,810 --> 00:35:28,139 You did bring the... no, it is. 640 00:35:28,140 --> 00:35:29,279 You brought the pro one the first time. 641 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,988 The first time. 642 00:35:29,989 --> 00:35:32,299 Listen, I signed your synthesizer 643 00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,609 and played it in the set. 644 00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:37,789 My hero, my keyboard hero is going 645 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:41,599 to play my keyboard, that I got because my keyboard hero plays 646 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,779 that in his studio. 647 00:35:43,780 --> 00:35:48,249 Somehow I end up back in the coat closet with cKevin. 648 00:35:48,250 --> 00:35:50,269 I remember the first time I brought you out 649 00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:51,499 for that first gig. 650 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:53,589 I took you back into one of the coat checks 651 00:35:53,590 --> 00:35:56,199 to show you this package I got from this guy, Danny Blue 652 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,259 from Vancouver. 653 00:35:57,260 --> 00:36:00,389 And he showed some pictures of you hanging out with Al Nelson. 654 00:36:00,390 --> 00:36:02,389 I think one of your first girlfriends was there. 655 00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:04,139 And one of the pictures, and there was a... 656 00:36:04,140 --> 00:36:07,121 Oh god, I remember this now, you showing me that. 657 00:36:07,122 --> 00:36:08,829 Because what was really weird is that guy 658 00:36:08,830 --> 00:36:10,629 you got the pictures from was the guy that 659 00:36:10,630 --> 00:36:14,949 formed the original underground scene of late night clubs 660 00:36:14,950 --> 00:36:15,925 and raves in Vancouver. 661 00:36:15,925 --> 00:36:16,448 Oh wow. 662 00:36:16,448 --> 00:36:17,240 I didn't know that. 663 00:36:17,241 --> 00:36:19,779 So I was how is it you got these pictures. 664 00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:22,269 How does a guy in Dallas, Texas, have pictures of me 665 00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:24,259 from before I was even in Skinny Puppy. 666 00:36:24,260 --> 00:36:25,429 This is crazy. 667 00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:27,699 And that's when we kind of like opened up a little bit 668 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:30,509 and started talking. 669 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:32,949 We had him back three or four other times. 670 00:36:32,950 --> 00:36:36,310 That first time was amazing. 671 00:36:37,810 --> 00:36:39,309 He's gonna ask you a question. 672 00:36:39,310 --> 00:36:40,509 All right. 673 00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,800 Do you guys want one more? 674 00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,469 Only at The Church. 675 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:49,799 I can't think of another Dallas establishment 676 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,219 that could house that type of energy or that type of event. 677 00:36:53,220 --> 00:36:55,769 It's just like, what's the right size of room 678 00:36:55,770 --> 00:36:58,809 and the right ceiling height, the right speakers, 679 00:36:58,810 --> 00:37:01,319 the right dance floor. 680 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,739 You had the bass, you had all the bass. 681 00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:03,705 You had everything. 682 00:37:03,706 --> 00:37:07,169 One more time give it up for cEvin Key. 683 00:37:07,170 --> 00:37:09,839 Telling 13 or 14-year-old me that I'd be hanging out with 684 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,599 that dude, I wouldn't believe you in a million years. 685 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,159 So really glad that we brought him out in 2009, 686 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,379 and that we got to bond over some silly pictures. 687 00:37:20,380 --> 00:37:22,910 And cKevin's just a really sweet person. 688 00:37:25,570 --> 00:37:28,119 Anytime you can lure a celebrity 689 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,709 like that in, your street cred goes way up. 690 00:37:30,710 --> 00:37:32,619 One day I'm sitting up in the office 691 00:37:32,620 --> 00:37:34,539 and I see a Black Ferrari pull up 692 00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:38,989 with a very tall guy and a very short blonde girl. 693 00:37:38,990 --> 00:37:41,209 And I'm looking at the camera. 694 00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:43,789 And I said, that looks like Dennis Rodman and Madonna. 695 00:37:43,790 --> 00:37:46,569 And they rang the doorbell, and I let him in. 696 00:37:46,570 --> 00:37:48,699 And I stood over here. 697 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:50,859 And I said, what can I do for you? 698 00:37:50,860 --> 00:37:54,399 And they said, well, we heard this place is for sale. 699 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,509 I said, well, it's not for sale, but it could be. 700 00:37:56,510 --> 00:37:58,399 But we never did the Lizard Lounge deal. 701 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,579 But there was a deal with Dennis and Madonna and I. 702 00:38:03,580 --> 00:38:05,659 The Cure came in one night, played pool. 703 00:38:05,660 --> 00:38:07,909 Pet Shop Boys came in one night after a concert, 704 00:38:07,910 --> 00:38:10,449 signed a piece of Lizard Land stationery with their logo. 705 00:38:10,450 --> 00:38:12,159 Trent Reznor was one. 706 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:13,549 I don't remember how we did that. 707 00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:14,869 I think that would just happen. 708 00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:16,339 And movies were filmed there. 709 00:38:16,340 --> 00:38:18,399 Keys to Tulsa was filmed there. 710 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,579 Queen of the South filmed there. 711 00:38:21,580 --> 00:38:23,630 Walker Texas Ranger filmed there. 712 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:29,549 I knew that Ozzfest was coming to town, 713 00:38:29,550 --> 00:38:32,199 and Marilyn Manson was on the tour. 714 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,529 And I knew that he was engaged to Dita. 715 00:38:34,530 --> 00:38:37,199 I knew that I could book Dita that night, 716 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,749 and we would probably set the trap 717 00:38:39,750 --> 00:38:43,229 to lure Marilyn Manson into the club. 718 00:38:43,230 --> 00:38:45,269 So we were there on the dance floor 719 00:38:45,270 --> 00:38:49,499 and someone came in from the smoking porch and said, 720 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:50,709 tour bus has just pulled up. 721 00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:52,899 And I'm like, OK, whatever. 722 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:53,820 But we can no longer dance anymore 723 00:38:53,821 --> 00:38:54,999 because it's too crowded. 724 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,207 And then we all just start looking up and we're like, 725 00:38:57,208 --> 00:39:00,359 oh, it's the Marilyn Manson band, OK. 726 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,609 And that weird moment of like, we want to dance to your song, 727 00:39:03,610 --> 00:39:04,360 but you're here. 728 00:39:04,361 --> 00:39:06,299 So we're just like, hi. 729 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:07,779 Back in the day, people would say, well, 730 00:39:07,780 --> 00:39:09,639 what are you guys doing for Halloween? 731 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,179 I said, Halloween. 732 00:39:11,180 --> 00:39:13,599 Well, I mean, is it going to be a Monster's Ball, 733 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,459 or is it going to be this, could be that. 734 00:39:15,460 --> 00:39:17,989 That's when I got the idea for Halloween on Halloween. 735 00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:19,819 We do Halloween on Halloween. 736 00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:21,999 And we only do it on Halloween because every night 737 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:22,820 is Halloween. 738 00:39:22,821 --> 00:39:26,905 But Halloween is Halloween. 739 00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:29,499 Oh, hell yeah, only on Halloween. 740 00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:33,249 We were for many years, the biggest, baddest Halloween 741 00:39:33,250 --> 00:39:33,920 party. 742 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:34,888 We were always packed. 743 00:39:34,889 --> 00:39:37,429 There was always a line that went down the street to come in, 744 00:39:37,430 --> 00:39:38,907 always the best costumes. 745 00:39:38,908 --> 00:39:40,449 Doesn't matter what day of the week 746 00:39:40,450 --> 00:39:42,579 it is, it's still a Church Night. 747 00:39:42,580 --> 00:39:46,899 But Halloween on Halloween, one of the simplest things 748 00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,309 we've ever done, and in my mind, still the most clever 749 00:39:49,310 --> 00:39:50,609 because it's Halloween. 750 00:39:50,610 --> 00:39:51,860 You don't have to do anything. 751 00:40:03,245 --> 00:40:04,619 We would always try to get people 752 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:06,619 to dress to come to the Church, and we're always 753 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:09,699 looking for ways to get them to dress and participate. 754 00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,359 And we thought it would be fun to do a fetish ball as a one 755 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,209 off, one time dress up event. 756 00:40:15,210 --> 00:40:18,149 Little did I know that was like the biggest attraction we'd ever 757 00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:19,790 create. 758 00:40:21,870 --> 00:40:24,659 Hansel Von Quenzer was the producer 759 00:40:24,660 --> 00:40:26,639 of the first fetish ball. 760 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,249 The first show was real low tech. 761 00:40:30,250 --> 00:40:32,789 The skits that I wrote were pretty basic 762 00:40:32,790 --> 00:40:34,559 for fetish BDSM stuff. 763 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,969 It mainly consisted of whipping and flogging, 764 00:40:36,970 --> 00:40:39,622 putting people on the leash, some toilet stuff. 765 00:40:39,623 --> 00:40:41,789 And then the other part was me running around trying 766 00:40:41,790 --> 00:40:42,760 to find the props. 767 00:40:42,761 --> 00:40:44,249 And then part three was me trying 768 00:40:44,250 --> 00:40:46,949 to find models that were willing to do this type of thing 769 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:47,548 on stage. 770 00:40:47,549 --> 00:40:48,840 How much did Hansel tell you? 771 00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:52,869 I mean, not in a sexual way. 772 00:40:52,870 --> 00:40:55,599 I just meant in a legal way. 773 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:56,380 Oh, I'm already on? 774 00:40:56,380 --> 00:40:56,880 Fantastic. 775 00:40:56,881 --> 00:40:58,179 You're going to cut all this into it. 776 00:40:58,180 --> 00:40:59,249 Great, you're going to use this. 777 00:40:59,250 --> 00:40:59,750 Fantastic. 778 00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:00,750 Thanks. 779 00:41:00,751 --> 00:41:05,929 OK, so first fetish ball was exciting and interesting. 780 00:41:05,930 --> 00:41:07,389 So it's maybe 8:00. 781 00:41:07,390 --> 00:41:08,559 Doors open at 9:00. 782 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,599 And we have all the models on stage. 783 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:11,709 And so we're rehearsing. 784 00:41:11,710 --> 00:41:15,099 And Hansel has some big kind of skit planned out. 785 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:16,599 I'd showed up to work on the ball, 786 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,849 and I was working on some choreography and some props 787 00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:19,400 and stuff. 788 00:41:19,401 --> 00:41:21,109 We're kind of trying to figure it out. 789 00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:23,799 So it's gotten very complicated and everyone's 790 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:24,110 a little confused. 791 00:41:24,111 --> 00:41:25,629 We were about to open the doors. 792 00:41:25,630 --> 00:41:28,419 And then the doors get busted open. 793 00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:29,829 A detective showed up. 794 00:41:29,830 --> 00:41:31,099 And he says, I'm here. 795 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,899 I'm looking for Hansel Von Quenzer. 796 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:35,342 I said, hold on. 797 00:41:35,343 --> 00:41:37,549 He said, hey, Dallas Police Department is out here. 798 00:41:37,550 --> 00:41:38,839 They want to talk to you. 799 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,650 Hansel goes. 800 00:41:39,651 --> 00:41:40,927 We're like, oh. 801 00:41:40,928 --> 00:41:42,219 And so everyone's just looking. 802 00:41:42,220 --> 00:41:44,799 And we're not knowing what to do. 803 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,509 I'd done a lot of radio interviews for the fetish ball, 804 00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:50,299 and I guess somebody had tipped off the police or something. 805 00:41:50,300 --> 00:41:52,779 We were five minutes from opening the doors 806 00:41:52,780 --> 00:41:54,439 for the first Dallas fetish ball, 807 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,834 and the producer of the event had just been carted off. 808 00:41:56,835 --> 00:41:58,489 He straight up arrested me. 809 00:41:58,490 --> 00:42:01,159 And if I remember right, Angela Ryan stepped up. 810 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,689 I just let us all out in the fashion show 811 00:42:03,690 --> 00:42:04,959 and kind of just took over. 812 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,679 I guess they thought if maybe they arrested the guy that 813 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,499 was producing the ball that they could maybe 814 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:11,260 stop the ball somehow. 815 00:42:11,261 --> 00:42:12,970 But the ball went on anyways. 816 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,919 I think that people are maybe initially drawn 817 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,799 to it just because it's edgy. 818 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,939 Like anyone that's kind of interested in pushing 819 00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:38,569 the envelope or things that are taboo like might 820 00:42:38,570 --> 00:42:41,149 start to discover this. 821 00:42:41,150 --> 00:42:42,179 Pampa, Texas. 822 00:42:42,180 --> 00:42:43,999 It's up by Amarillo. 823 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,499 I come here every year just for the fetish ball. 824 00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:51,499 5 and a half hours, six hours? 825 00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:52,969 So. 826 00:42:52,970 --> 00:42:55,882 When I started the fetish ball in 99, 827 00:42:55,883 --> 00:42:57,299 for the first three or four years, 828 00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:58,919 it was predominantly Church people. 829 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:00,859 But then it started to attract people just 830 00:43:00,860 --> 00:43:02,939 from the BDSM fetish community. 831 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,259 And what was the motto that we talked about earlier, 832 00:43:05,260 --> 00:43:07,099 anybody can come. 833 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,469 We had an older guy named Craig. 834 00:43:09,470 --> 00:43:12,439 And he used to come in wearing like a banana hammock 835 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,689 and nipple clamps with weights, and he used 836 00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:16,499 to come to the fetish ball. 837 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:17,721 We had a guy who used to wear a diaper. 838 00:43:17,722 --> 00:43:19,429 You want to wear a diaper, wear a diaper. 839 00:43:19,430 --> 00:43:21,989 You want to live out your fetishes, you can do that here. 840 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:24,139 So what kind of robot are you? 841 00:43:24,140 --> 00:43:26,419 I'm an assembly line robot, actually. 842 00:43:26,420 --> 00:43:27,619 This is a sex robot. 843 00:43:27,620 --> 00:43:28,355 A sex robot? 844 00:43:28,356 --> 00:43:29,449 Oh, look at that. 845 00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:31,739 Well, now, easy now. 846 00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,469 That is the Peter. 847 00:43:33,470 --> 00:43:36,372 That Peter gets a little red when you rub it that way. 848 00:43:36,373 --> 00:43:37,789 Of course, when we first started 849 00:43:37,790 --> 00:43:41,219 bringing in rubber doll in the mid to late 2000, 850 00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:45,899 she was really big because she was very attractive. 851 00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:47,239 She wore all latex, and she would 852 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:49,339 shoot this confetti popper that would 853 00:43:49,340 --> 00:43:51,550 be like the orgasm of the show. 854 00:43:55,860 --> 00:43:58,739 I think that when someone goes to a fetish ball like that, 855 00:43:58,740 --> 00:44:00,489 there's so many elements going. 856 00:44:00,490 --> 00:44:01,989 There's so much going on. 857 00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:07,829 And then you add drinks to that, and the parties going on. 858 00:44:07,830 --> 00:44:10,402 And that's the success of it. 859 00:44:10,403 --> 00:44:11,819 We didn't want 860 00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:14,579 people to just show up and watch the fetish people perform 861 00:44:14,580 --> 00:44:15,340 on stage. 862 00:44:15,341 --> 00:44:19,829 I wanted people to show up and actually participate. 863 00:44:19,830 --> 00:44:23,239 I am the mistress of the wheel of pain. 864 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:24,339 It's a fun game. 865 00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:25,929 Who doesn't love games? 866 00:44:25,930 --> 00:44:29,279 You come up on stage, and you're up there under the lights 867 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,659 and everybody's looking at you. 868 00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:34,629 And you spin the big wheel, and ooh, what's it going to land on? 869 00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:35,919 What's it going to be? 870 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:36,690 Ooh. 871 00:44:36,691 --> 00:44:38,229 We had the wheel of pain. 872 00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:39,969 We had the flogging bench. 873 00:44:39,970 --> 00:44:41,289 I set up a lube booth. 874 00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:42,749 And then once that happened, people 875 00:44:42,750 --> 00:44:45,237 started coming up with all sorts of other ideas like, 876 00:44:45,238 --> 00:44:47,279 you'd toss the ring and it would land on a dildo, 877 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:48,839 and you would win a prize. 878 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,299 Every little nook and cranny that you went into, there 879 00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:52,599 was something happening. 880 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,659 You turn around, like there's people 881 00:44:54,660 --> 00:44:57,169 trampling some dude in a cage. 882 00:44:57,170 --> 00:45:00,099 Turn around over here, someone's getting tied up. 883 00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:01,819 There's just people dancing everywhere. 884 00:45:01,820 --> 00:45:04,220 I mean, it was the best party I'd ever been to. 885 00:45:26,392 --> 00:45:30,319 Under my skin 886 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,739 Under my skin 887 00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:35,469 Under my skin 888 00:45:35,470 --> 00:45:37,574 Under my skin 889 00:45:37,575 --> 00:45:38,939 Under my skin 890 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:40,329 I want to know where we're going 891 00:45:40,330 --> 00:45:41,859 I want to know where you've been 892 00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:45,649 You want to know what it takes to get under my skin 893 00:45:45,650 --> 00:45:47,169 I want to know where we're going 894 00:45:47,170 --> 00:45:48,769 I want to know where you've been 895 00:45:48,770 --> 00:45:52,350 You want to know what it takes to get under my skin 896 00:45:57,650 --> 00:46:02,509 S&M isn't necessarily just about pain. 897 00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:07,109 Pain is just one little stop on that spectrum. 898 00:46:07,110 --> 00:46:08,729 There's bondage. 899 00:46:08,730 --> 00:46:10,909 There's sensory play. 900 00:46:10,910 --> 00:46:15,769 S&M is very much a form of therapy for a lot of people. 901 00:46:15,770 --> 00:46:16,879 For me, it's not sexual. 902 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,119 And it is to a lot of people. 903 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:19,799 And I understand that. 904 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,299 And I explain to them whenever I first start playing, 905 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,819 it's not going to be that way. 906 00:46:22,820 --> 00:46:24,702 Safe, sane and consensual. 907 00:46:24,703 --> 00:46:26,869 And if someone doesn't want to play, you don't play. 908 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:30,979 A client of mine, he was a large, muscular, like football 909 00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:32,729 player type build. 910 00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:35,599 And I dressed him up like a little schoolgirl. 911 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,509 And I put on my little latex nun outfit 912 00:46:38,510 --> 00:46:41,339 with my giant flaming purple strap on, 913 00:46:41,340 --> 00:46:43,309 and I tied him to the stripper pole. 914 00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:45,679 And I made him suck my cock. 915 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,959 And I probably threw him down on the floor 916 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,879 and humped his little ass too, like humped him like a bitch 917 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,489 because he was a bitch. 918 00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:59,276 So I made him my bitch right there in front of everyone. 919 00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:11,859 It was 2006, and I went on the very first Girls of the Church 920 00:47:11,860 --> 00:47:13,099 Calendar Night. 921 00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:17,529 Every single person was like their own runway. 922 00:47:17,530 --> 00:47:22,455 It was just like an eye gasm of life. 923 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,799 The first opportunity I had to actually model 924 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:30,230 was at The Church. 925 00:47:30,231 --> 00:47:33,879 One of my friends, she just kind of came up to me one night, 926 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,409 and I should introduce you to somebody. 927 00:47:36,410 --> 00:47:37,549 Do you know Hansel? 928 00:47:37,550 --> 00:47:38,559 And I'm like, no. 929 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,929 She led me over to him and introduced me. 930 00:47:40,930 --> 00:47:43,449 And she was like, you need to put him in a show. 931 00:47:43,450 --> 00:47:46,973 He told me to get on his site, make a profile. 932 00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,900 I think we actually did a photoshoot at Hot Topic. 933 00:47:59,150 --> 00:48:01,649 Back then everybody used to hang out in the girls' bathroom. 934 00:48:01,650 --> 00:48:03,357 You met everybody in the girls' bathroom. 935 00:48:03,358 --> 00:48:04,469 Hansel came in there. 936 00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:07,259 I guess he was looking for me and he asked about, Hey, 937 00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:09,659 do you want to do fetish ball? 938 00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,630 And it just felt I was just like, yes. 939 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,195 Walking across the stage for the first time is amazing. 940 00:48:25,780 --> 00:48:30,439 When it came down for my walk and hearing them, it was like, 941 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,948 this is where I belong. 942 00:48:36,620 --> 00:48:40,229 Will, he was the photographer of The Church for years and years. 943 00:48:40,230 --> 00:48:43,639 And he said, hey, you need to enter the Girls Church audition 944 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:44,280 thing. 945 00:48:44,281 --> 00:48:46,419 I'm like, what are you talking about, it's girls. 946 00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:47,609 I'm not going to do that. 947 00:48:47,610 --> 00:48:48,262 I'm a boy. 948 00:48:48,262 --> 00:48:49,220 I'm not going to do it. 949 00:48:49,221 --> 00:48:51,409 And he's like, no, there's people 950 00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:53,569 who would love for you to be involved. 951 00:48:53,570 --> 00:48:54,959 And they think you should. 952 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,809 You represent the church. 953 00:48:56,810 --> 00:49:00,869 I really like that he didn't fit into one category. 954 00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:03,709 And to say Girls of The Church back then 955 00:49:03,710 --> 00:49:07,159 and JBabe being a part of it was groundbreaking. 956 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,319 They did choose me because I do represent The Church. 957 00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,979 And I do know that there were people 958 00:49:12,980 --> 00:49:19,189 who was upset I was a part of it because I don't have a vagina. 959 00:49:19,190 --> 00:49:23,459 But I don't think that is a problem at all. 960 00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:30,499 The calendar represents the faces who are there. 961 00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:35,799 Well, when we first began doing Church events, 962 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,249 I wanted to come up with a positioning line 963 00:49:39,250 --> 00:49:42,669 to let people know a few words that 964 00:49:42,670 --> 00:49:45,609 sort of describes who we are. 965 00:49:45,610 --> 00:49:49,460 And the words we chose were enter without prejudice. 966 00:49:58,180 --> 00:50:01,809 Without prejudice means coming as you are 967 00:50:01,810 --> 00:50:05,589 and not giving a fuck about anybody else. 968 00:50:05,590 --> 00:50:07,249 Once you step through these doors, 969 00:50:07,250 --> 00:50:10,816 you cannot come in here and be awful to people for the things 970 00:50:10,817 --> 00:50:13,149 that they like or the way that they look or the way that 971 00:50:13,150 --> 00:50:15,689 they're dancing or anything like that. 972 00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:18,139 Try to understand where they're coming from, 973 00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:22,449 maybe understand what they're going through in life. 974 00:50:22,450 --> 00:50:24,437 Come in without any preconceived ideas 975 00:50:24,438 --> 00:50:25,729 about what you're going to see. 976 00:50:25,730 --> 00:50:27,799 Don't be judgmental about anybody. 977 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,567 Nobody's going to be judgmental about you. 978 00:50:29,568 --> 00:50:31,359 Having that as a slogan 979 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,699 is sort of a reinforcement of the fact 980 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:35,959 that you're allowed to come here and be who you want to be, 981 00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,479 not how you have to pretend to be 982 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,559 when you're around your family. 983 00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:42,999 In my 9:00 to 5:00, I can't dress the way I do. 984 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,849 The real me comes out at The Church. 985 00:50:45,850 --> 00:50:48,729 Enter that prejudice is exactly what it sounds like. 986 00:50:48,730 --> 00:50:52,989 If you want to be prejudiced towards somebody dressing up 987 00:50:52,990 --> 00:50:56,259 or the bondage or everything that everybody 988 00:50:56,260 --> 00:51:01,439 does in this scene, then you're don't need to be here. 989 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,940 Basically. 990 00:51:01,940 --> 00:51:02,440 Yeah. 991 00:51:02,441 --> 00:51:07,266 Get the fuck out but in a nice way, with a smile. 992 00:51:22,340 --> 00:51:24,289 The vampire aesthetic and concept 993 00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:27,259 before it became a goth thing was about our inability 994 00:51:27,260 --> 00:51:31,429 to understand death and change and transformation. 995 00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:34,309 Being a trans woman who identifies with the vamp 996 00:51:34,310 --> 00:51:36,179 aesthetic and like I'm transitioning, 997 00:51:36,180 --> 00:51:39,499 I'm finding something new, I'm becoming something different, 998 00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:42,819 it very much blended into who I was. 999 00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:46,449 I think I must have first found the goth culture in probably 1000 00:51:46,450 --> 00:51:47,534 1997. 1001 00:51:47,535 --> 00:51:48,909 It was an interesting year for me 1002 00:51:48,910 --> 00:51:50,356 because my father had passed away. 1003 00:51:50,357 --> 00:51:51,939 And I had a different group of friends 1004 00:51:51,940 --> 00:51:53,949 that were the Goth, spooky kind, and they 1005 00:51:53,950 --> 00:51:57,399 were able to help me understand that death is a part of life, 1006 00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,925 and you don't have to be alone in that moment. 1007 00:52:03,170 --> 00:52:06,139 One of the things that I had to learn 1008 00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:08,809 when I was doing my therapy when I started transition 1009 00:52:08,810 --> 00:52:11,599 was my therapist said, make a list of things 1010 00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,579 that you want for yourself and you want 1011 00:52:13,580 --> 00:52:16,259 in a partner, essentially a path for me. 1012 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:19,359 And that path involves helping others because others are there 1013 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:19,860 for me. 1014 00:52:19,861 --> 00:52:21,899 I want to pay it forward. 1015 00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:22,130 And you roast the seeds. 1016 00:52:22,131 --> 00:52:25,099 Well, I've been eating the pumpkin. 1017 00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:28,189 You can cook these. 1018 00:52:28,190 --> 00:52:32,239 So the Dance Vampire Court is the only vampire court nonprofit 1019 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,149 in the country, and we run great charity events 1020 00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:36,889 and be a source for the community 1021 00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:41,659 to be able to show we're here, we're doing good for others. 1022 00:52:41,660 --> 00:52:44,149 We all started at The Church with the Bleeding Hearts Ball 1023 00:52:44,150 --> 00:52:47,249 so many years ago. 1024 00:52:47,250 --> 00:52:49,669 The first time I went authentically as Danielle 1025 00:52:49,670 --> 00:52:52,659 to The Church, it was kind of a blur. 1026 00:52:52,660 --> 00:52:54,709 It was kind of anxiety riddled. 1027 00:52:54,710 --> 00:52:57,389 I'm in there touching my makeup in the women's restroom. 1028 00:52:57,390 --> 00:52:59,359 There was a girl on a bench there complaining 1029 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,799 about her boyfriend, and we were just 1030 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,789 like giving each other advice and gassing each other up, 1031 00:53:02,790 --> 00:53:04,169 going, oh, you look amazing. 1032 00:53:04,170 --> 00:53:07,561 This is a place where you can relax, vent, touch up 1033 00:53:07,562 --> 00:53:09,769 your makeup, and always get good, healthy compliments 1034 00:53:09,770 --> 00:53:10,530 from other women. 1035 00:53:10,531 --> 00:53:14,309 And that is something that was very reaffirming gender-wise, 1036 00:53:14,310 --> 00:53:16,870 which wasn't taken in a bad way. 1037 00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:22,159 When your slogan is end without prejudice, 1038 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,709 it makes it feel like you're able to be yourself there. 1039 00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:27,429 And that was what I needed at a point in my life. 1040 00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:29,739 And moving forward with my vampire court, 1041 00:53:29,740 --> 00:53:30,996 we're looking for a new venue. 1042 00:53:30,997 --> 00:53:33,579 We're finding new venues like we can do a Bleeding Hearts Ball 1043 00:53:33,580 --> 00:53:35,299 here, but it's not The Church. 1044 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:39,339 And there's just... there's so much of the ambience 1045 00:53:39,340 --> 00:53:41,481 of the location that we don't recognize 1046 00:53:41,482 --> 00:53:43,642 that we miss until it's gone. 1047 00:53:52,410 --> 00:53:56,969 '98, my friend Chris Metz came in and Chris Metz looked like 1048 00:53:56,970 --> 00:53:58,989 the villain from The Crow. 1049 00:53:58,990 --> 00:54:01,569 The long flowing black hair. 1050 00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:02,999 Beautiful, dude. 1051 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,579 One night, Chris walks into the club holding a brown paper bag. 1052 00:54:06,580 --> 00:54:08,606 He had shaved his head. 1053 00:54:08,607 --> 00:54:10,439 He's like, hey, man, I want you to have this 1054 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:11,856 because I don't need this anymore. 1055 00:54:11,857 --> 00:54:12,976 I'm like, OK. 1056 00:54:12,977 --> 00:54:14,559 And I didn't know what was in the bag. 1057 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,229 I opened up the bag. 1058 00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:20,129 The rarest, most hard to find Sisters of Mercy merchandise, 1059 00:54:20,130 --> 00:54:24,234 like picture disks on vinyl, CD box sets. 1060 00:54:24,235 --> 00:54:26,859 And I'm like, dude, this is like your prized possessions, dude. 1061 00:54:26,860 --> 00:54:27,879 I can't take this from you. 1062 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:28,690 This is your stuff. 1063 00:54:28,691 --> 00:54:30,789 I don't want... I can't take this. 1064 00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:32,139 Dude, you have to take it. 1065 00:54:32,140 --> 00:54:34,199 I don't need it anymore. 1066 00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,479 So that night he comes in and hangs out with me in the booth. 1067 00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:40,259 I had met this girl before he walked in. 1068 00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:41,519 Her name was Chris. 1069 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,909 I introduced her to Chris, and they started talking. 1070 00:54:44,910 --> 00:54:49,799 I get home, I do my nightly ritual, go to bed. 1071 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,339 I get woken up a couple hours later. 1072 00:54:51,340 --> 00:54:53,699 It's the girl Chris. 1073 00:54:53,700 --> 00:54:56,829 Joe, Chris is dead. 1074 00:54:56,830 --> 00:54:57,250 And I'm like, what the fuck? 1075 00:54:57,250 --> 00:54:57,938 What? 1076 00:54:57,939 --> 00:54:59,229 What do you mean Chris is dead? 1077 00:54:59,230 --> 00:55:02,219 She goes, his mom called me because she found my phone 1078 00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:03,959 number in his jacket. 1079 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,139 She walked in the room, and he shot himself. 1080 00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:08,870 And I was like, what the fuck? 1081 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,159 Sorry. 1082 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:20,389 I don't think goth has ever driven anyone 1083 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:22,339 to kill themselves. 1084 00:55:22,340 --> 00:55:25,999 But I think that people with suicidal ideation 1085 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,099 might very well seek out goth. 1086 00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:31,229 So I think that's where the crossroads are. 1087 00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:34,819 I don't think the crossroads are someone who's bright 1088 00:55:34,820 --> 00:55:37,399 and chipper suddenly goes to a goth club 1089 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:38,909 and starts wearing black lipstick 1090 00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:41,189 and then suddenly is suicidal. 1091 00:55:41,190 --> 00:55:42,709 I just don't think that happens. 1092 00:55:42,710 --> 00:55:46,129 When I was 17 years old, living in a town 1093 00:55:46,130 --> 00:55:48,329 where people told me on a daily basis, 1094 00:55:48,330 --> 00:55:52,909 you should kill yourself, do this town a favor 1095 00:55:52,910 --> 00:55:54,799 and kill yourself. 1096 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:57,839 Do the school a favor and kill yourself. 1097 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,289 Do your family a favor and kill yourself. 1098 00:56:00,290 --> 00:56:04,199 And not ever having met anyone from outside of that town, 1099 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:08,119 I just assumed that everyone else in the world 1100 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,619 was like the people in my town. 1101 00:56:10,620 --> 00:56:15,919 And subsequently I felt that I was like they said, a weirdo, 1102 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,839 and I didn't deserve to live. 1103 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,449 People who are depressed who find the goth scene, 1104 00:56:22,450 --> 00:56:24,879 if their experience is anything like mine, 1105 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,819 where you spend a lot of your time dancing in a club, 1106 00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:31,809 feeling really free to express yourself, 1107 00:56:31,810 --> 00:56:34,349 being surrounded by people who are also really creative 1108 00:56:34,350 --> 00:56:37,229 and also dressed really wildly, who 1109 00:56:37,230 --> 00:56:39,599 are open minded and accept you the way 1110 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,939 that you are will more likely than not, 1111 00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:47,799 I think, put aside the thoughts of suicide, 1112 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,529 realizing that there are good people in this world 1113 00:56:50,530 --> 00:56:51,719 and there is fun to be had in this world 1114 00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:53,519 and there is beauty to be found. 1115 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:57,359 And if there's one thing that I have learned from performing 1116 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,299 here year after year after year, if there's 1117 00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:05,699 one thing I've come to expect and to always, always feel 1118 00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:11,369 is the incredible sense of understanding and togetherness 1119 00:57:11,370 --> 00:57:14,799 that this community has and acceptance. 1120 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,389 So New Year's Eve, I'm there, and DJing in the DJ booth, 1121 00:57:18,390 --> 00:57:23,699 and I hear some buzzing over here with my friends talking. 1122 00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:26,739 And I heard my friend Jasper's name get brought up. 1123 00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:29,379 And I'm like, hey, where is that fool, man? 1124 00:57:29,380 --> 00:57:31,379 He'd be the first person to come up here and try 1125 00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:32,338 to kiss me at midnight. 1126 00:57:32,339 --> 00:57:33,994 Where is where's Jasper at? 1127 00:57:33,995 --> 00:57:35,639 Oh, you haven't heard. 1128 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,299 And I'm like, what? 1129 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:40,799 And it's like, he died. 1130 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:41,800 He ODed. 1131 00:57:41,801 --> 00:57:43,170 And I'm like, what? 1132 00:57:48,222 --> 00:57:49,929 Anybody that knew Jasper just 1133 00:57:49,930 --> 00:57:55,809 knew he was one of the coolest people you'd ever want to know. 1134 00:57:55,810 --> 00:57:58,639 He knew everything about alternative music. 1135 00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,699 He was a musician himself. 1136 00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:02,980 He was just a beautiful person. 1137 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:10,239 After Jasper had passed away. 1138 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,139 I kind of learned the phrasing of these. 1139 00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:14,859 Did you hear about, or have you heard about, or whatever, 1140 00:58:14,860 --> 00:58:17,619 that usually meant did you hear that so-and-so died. 1141 00:58:17,620 --> 00:58:20,899 After a lot of my friends died, I said, fuck this, 1142 00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,399 I don't want to lose more people. 1143 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,599 I don't want to be close to anybody because everybody dies, 1144 00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,799 and I can't handle it. 1145 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:30,549 And I'm having a hard time dealing with it. 1146 00:58:30,550 --> 00:58:34,119 It's hard going to a club trying to have a party when 1147 00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,099 the people you used to party with at that same club are gone. 1148 00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:40,719 Everybody in this picture is dead except for me and this guy 1149 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,639 here with the skull mask. 1150 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,419 This is my friend Brad, who died of cancer. 1151 00:58:46,420 --> 00:58:50,839 And these two took their own lives separately, 1152 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,469 different times, years apart. 1153 00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:58,339 I could picture my friends where they would be hanging out. 1154 00:58:58,340 --> 00:59:02,119 And every once in a while, there'll 1155 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:05,749 be some guy with a leather jacket on and bleach blonde hair 1156 00:59:05,750 --> 00:59:07,479 walk by, and I think it's Jasper. 1157 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:08,650 Like, boom, that's Jasper. 1158 01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:03,609 When you start talking about supernatural stuff, 1159 01:00:03,610 --> 01:00:06,539 we've had countless film crews of people 1160 01:00:06,540 --> 01:00:09,179 that come to measure ghost sightings that 1161 01:00:09,180 --> 01:00:11,099 have come through the building. 1162 01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:14,669 Big John, the head of security there 1163 01:00:14,670 --> 01:00:19,679 claims to have seen the spirit on certain nights. 1164 01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,429 I didn't actually take it. 1165 01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:23,639 One of my staff members took it. 1166 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,099 He just took the picture because of how the lights 1167 01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:28,349 were shining through the smoke. 1168 01:00:28,350 --> 01:00:32,579 And then he looked at the picture after he took it. 1169 01:00:32,580 --> 01:00:35,099 And that's when he saw that image. 1170 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,485 And he kind of freaked out. 1171 01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:46,949 It was at the end of the night. 1172 01:00:46,950 --> 01:00:48,109 We were all outside. 1173 01:00:48,110 --> 01:00:50,249 And me and Joe were standing there talking. 1174 01:00:50,250 --> 01:00:52,679 Club closes, Big John leaves. 1175 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,460 He's the last guy. 1176 01:00:53,461 --> 01:00:55,439 He had the keys, locked everything up. 1177 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,509 And Clint and I are talking and all of a sudden, we hear. 1178 01:00:59,510 --> 01:01:03,709 And we were like, did we lock somebody in the building? 1179 01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:08,299 And we're like, huh? 1180 01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:09,899 OK, second time. 1181 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:11,209 And we're like. 1182 01:01:11,210 --> 01:01:12,839 He gets on the phone, hey, Big John, 1183 01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:13,939 can you come back here with the keys? 1184 01:01:13,940 --> 01:01:14,999 We lock somebody in the building, 1185 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,000 I hear somebody banging. 1186 01:01:16,001 --> 01:01:17,291 And it was very, very loud. 1187 01:01:17,292 --> 01:01:18,749 It wasn't like just a little knock. 1188 01:01:18,750 --> 01:01:21,269 It was straight up the whole door was shaking. 1189 01:01:21,270 --> 01:01:23,719 Someone was definitely inside a building. 1190 01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,152 Joe didn't want to go in. 1191 01:01:25,153 --> 01:01:26,819 He was like, no, I'm not going in there. 1192 01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:28,619 I'm like, I'm going to step outside. 1193 01:01:28,620 --> 01:01:29,849 I'll catch anybody if they run out. 1194 01:01:29,850 --> 01:01:31,549 And me and John searched the building. 1195 01:01:31,550 --> 01:01:32,999 And we shouted out. 1196 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,249 We searched every corner upstairs, offices, 1197 01:01:35,250 --> 01:01:39,459 dressing room, and literally did not find anybody in there. 1198 01:02:01,990 --> 01:02:04,389 This was a stair line. 1199 01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:07,424 So at this level was the DJ booth right here. 1200 01:02:07,425 --> 01:02:08,539 You see this black line. 1201 01:02:08,540 --> 01:02:12,499 So coming out to here, this was the staircase going up. 1202 01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:13,579 And so the DJ booth is over here. 1203 01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:14,919 So I would be DJing. 1204 01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,169 And out of the corner of my eye, I would see a kid. 1205 01:02:18,170 --> 01:02:21,289 And I remember the like a white t-shirt. 1206 01:02:21,290 --> 01:02:22,200 I couldn't see hair. 1207 01:02:22,201 --> 01:02:25,899 I didn't see the hair color, but blue jeans, like big baggy 1208 01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:27,769 jeans, run up the stairs. 1209 01:02:27,770 --> 01:02:29,649 And when he got to this section here 1210 01:02:29,650 --> 01:02:31,869 would trip and then continue running 1211 01:02:31,870 --> 01:02:33,939 and disappear halfway up the staircase. 1212 01:02:33,940 --> 01:02:36,369 Across the way, I would see somebody standing 1213 01:02:36,370 --> 01:02:40,299 in front of the doorway going up into the dressing room, 1214 01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:44,419 and I would see a figure with long gray or blonde hair, 1215 01:02:44,420 --> 01:02:46,689 just all in black standing up there. 1216 01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:48,969 And nobody would be there. 1217 01:02:48,970 --> 01:02:55,449 One of the popular ghost stories here was an old guy in a top hat 1218 01:02:55,450 --> 01:02:57,819 and a suit sitting at a table. 1219 01:02:57,820 --> 01:03:01,299 And he was always there writing poetry. 1220 01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:03,707 But that was really a guy named Christopher. 1221 01:03:03,708 --> 01:03:05,249 I've never seen a ghost in my life. 1222 01:03:05,250 --> 01:03:06,791 I mean, my theory on that is if there 1223 01:03:06,792 --> 01:03:09,889 is another world that we're not part of, 1224 01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:12,900 it's like it's on a different radio frequency. 1225 01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,895 And there are those of us that are not. 1226 01:03:23,780 --> 01:03:27,199 I feel that maybe it's a residual haunting there. 1227 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,249 Like when you listen to a tape, a cassette tape, 1228 01:03:29,250 --> 01:03:31,429 if you recorded something that had a heavy bass tone 1229 01:03:31,430 --> 01:03:34,769 or like a kick drum, that was really hard in this one point, 1230 01:03:34,770 --> 01:03:37,549 and then you record over that, you'll get a drop out 1231 01:03:37,550 --> 01:03:39,910 of that kick drum again. 1232 01:03:43,930 --> 01:03:46,249 I kind think that might be it with the building. 1233 01:03:46,250 --> 01:03:48,589 Like maybe the way that the couches were, 1234 01:03:48,590 --> 01:03:51,759 maybe the material of the wallpaper, maybe the bricks 1235 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,269 and the wood itself captured some... 1236 01:03:55,270 --> 01:03:58,719 and the kid falling, that might have been his like... 1237 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,849 one of his biggest embarrassing moments of his life. 1238 01:04:01,850 --> 01:04:03,729 And maybe that registered like a kick 1239 01:04:03,730 --> 01:04:07,305 drum on the magnetic field of the club. 1240 01:04:11,295 --> 01:04:13,669 There are so many people through, in and out those doors. 1241 01:04:13,670 --> 01:04:17,809 And so many people with heightened emotional responses 1242 01:04:17,810 --> 01:04:19,279 to things going on. 1243 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,335 All those kind of things are boom. 1244 01:04:23,570 --> 01:04:24,140 Yeah. 1245 01:04:24,140 --> 01:04:24,690 Yeah. 1246 01:04:24,691 --> 01:04:26,981 You just keep feeding it and feeding it and feeding it. 1247 01:04:26,982 --> 01:04:28,759 It's like a rechargeable battery. 1248 01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,269 And one night I'm in the hallway here. 1249 01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:34,339 This used to be just a hallway with double doors 1250 01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:37,489 that swung into this whole big area back here. 1251 01:04:37,490 --> 01:04:39,330 So I'm here talking to... 1252 01:04:48,204 --> 01:04:49,769 What's going on? 1253 01:04:49,770 --> 01:04:51,336 I heard something. 1254 01:04:51,337 --> 01:04:52,419 What was that? 1255 01:04:52,420 --> 01:04:53,689 I don't know. 1256 01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:55,489 It sounded like it was right there. 1257 01:04:55,490 --> 01:04:57,439 I don't see anybody or anything. 1258 01:04:57,440 --> 01:04:58,499 I hear footsteps. 1259 01:04:58,500 --> 01:04:59,250 That's so weird. 1260 01:04:59,251 --> 01:05:01,979 There's nothing you can hear footsteps in here. 1261 01:05:01,980 --> 01:05:03,199 OK. 1262 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,634 All right. 1263 01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:12,759 So several years ago, I met the club 1264 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:14,541 and I had a guest DJ spinning. 1265 01:05:14,542 --> 01:05:16,749 And I walked outside to get some fresh air because it 1266 01:05:16,750 --> 01:05:17,809 gets stuffy in there. 1267 01:05:17,810 --> 01:05:19,159 You get the fog machine going. 1268 01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,939 And so I walked outside, but there's 1269 01:05:21,940 --> 01:05:26,649 this guy, this like drunk guy, didn't look Goth at all. 1270 01:05:26,650 --> 01:05:29,599 And he says, Hey, DJ Virus. 1271 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:30,153 Hey, man. 1272 01:05:30,154 --> 01:05:31,819 And he comes and puts his arm around me. 1273 01:05:31,820 --> 01:05:32,989 And I'm like, what's up? 1274 01:05:32,990 --> 01:05:35,252 And he's like, I just bought this place, man. 1275 01:05:35,253 --> 01:05:36,669 And I got a question, what are you 1276 01:05:36,670 --> 01:05:40,909 going to do when I bulldoze your club? 1277 01:05:40,910 --> 01:05:43,699 And I'm like, who the fuck are you, dude? 1278 01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:44,550 Don't be an asshole. 1279 01:05:44,551 --> 01:05:45,869 I don't fucking know you. 1280 01:05:45,870 --> 01:05:46,413 What? 1281 01:05:46,414 --> 01:05:48,799 Who the fuck... get in your fucking limo. 1282 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,419 Take your fucking hooker off with you. 1283 01:05:50,420 --> 01:05:51,150 I yelled at him. 1284 01:05:51,151 --> 01:05:52,969 He got in his limo and took off. 1285 01:05:52,970 --> 01:05:56,639 And Don called me up and said, hey, what did this guy say? 1286 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:57,640 What'd he you look like? 1287 01:05:57,641 --> 01:05:59,259 And I described him to him. 1288 01:05:59,260 --> 01:06:03,419 And he's like, OK, so yeah, this guy did... he did buy the club, 1289 01:06:03,420 --> 01:06:04,969 but we're not going anywhere. 1290 01:06:04,970 --> 01:06:08,629 We're not going anywhere. 1291 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:11,689 He would come in unannounced in the middle of the day 1292 01:06:11,690 --> 01:06:16,159 with investors trying to sell the building, which is not cool. 1293 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,269 First of all, it's a violation of our lease. 1294 01:06:18,270 --> 01:06:19,349 It's a four wall lease. 1295 01:06:19,350 --> 01:06:22,819 We're responsible for everything from the roof to the foundation. 1296 01:06:22,820 --> 01:06:24,859 I couldn't buy the Lizard Lounge property. 1297 01:06:24,860 --> 01:06:27,499 The only defense posture I could take 1298 01:06:27,500 --> 01:06:32,099 was to buy the property adjacent and stop any development. 1299 01:06:32,100 --> 01:06:34,539 But I knew I couldn't stop it forever. 1300 01:06:34,540 --> 01:06:37,279 I just knew I could slow it down. 1301 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,109 When Westdale bought the building, 1302 01:06:39,110 --> 01:06:41,099 we were afraid they wouldn't work with us. 1303 01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:41,670 But they did. 1304 01:06:41,671 --> 01:06:43,752 But they said, we're building a high rise for Uber 1305 01:06:43,753 --> 01:06:46,609 across the street, and we're going to take your parking lots. 1306 01:06:46,610 --> 01:06:48,409 And they were going to use the parking 1307 01:06:48,410 --> 01:06:52,399 lots as staging for the construction of the high rise. 1308 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:55,379 I agreed to it because I didn't want to lose Lizard Lounge, 1309 01:06:55,380 --> 01:06:57,840 but I knew at that point our days were numbered. 1310 01:07:02,130 --> 01:07:05,229 I was in the office and I got a phone call from Onisha Rigney. 1311 01:07:05,230 --> 01:07:06,929 She was the original landlord's wife. 1312 01:07:06,930 --> 01:07:10,259 She was the designer who did the grand crystal palace dinner 1313 01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:10,812 theater. 1314 01:07:10,813 --> 01:07:12,269 She called me and said, Don, I need 1315 01:07:12,270 --> 01:07:13,436 to come get that chandelier. 1316 01:07:13,437 --> 01:07:16,629 I'm going to sell it and leave the money to my godchild. 1317 01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:18,569 I said, you can have it, but I need time 1318 01:07:18,570 --> 01:07:22,199 to replace it because I had to scramble to explain 1319 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:25,469 to people why someone's ripping the heart and soul out 1320 01:07:25,470 --> 01:07:26,801 of our nightclub. 1321 01:07:26,802 --> 01:07:28,259 The one thing around here you could 1322 01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:30,429 do... you could break a chair. 1323 01:07:30,430 --> 01:07:32,699 You could break a window. 1324 01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:32,940 Railing. 1325 01:07:32,941 --> 01:07:34,509 You could break a rail. 1326 01:07:34,510 --> 01:07:36,519 And I'm probably just going to ask you to leave. 1327 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,839 But the chandelier was a touchy subject. 1328 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:40,650 Yes. 1329 01:07:40,651 --> 01:07:43,469 That's the only thing that's remained constant in the club 1330 01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:45,729 and the pinnacle of the club itself. 1331 01:07:45,730 --> 01:07:48,879 Like if the club was a church, that would sort of in a way, 1332 01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:52,979 be the altar because everybody dances under that chandelier. 1333 01:07:52,980 --> 01:07:56,949 The chandelier was somewhat of the mascot of The Church. 1334 01:07:56,950 --> 01:07:59,679 Even though it didn't run around and pump people up, 1335 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,799 it sure did reflect the lights nicely. 1336 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,399 Who else can say that they were 1337 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:10,147 clubbing underneath that kind of opulence? 1338 01:08:10,148 --> 01:08:12,689 The person they get married to, like they come in the early 1339 01:08:12,690 --> 01:08:14,799 90s and they meet the person for the first time, 1340 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,309 the chandelier was there. 1341 01:08:17,310 --> 01:08:18,279 I didn't replace it. 1342 01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:20,489 I decided it can't be replaced. 1343 01:08:20,490 --> 01:08:23,615 We just decided we're going to let it go. 1344 01:08:28,814 --> 01:08:33,549 Yeah, I think it was very emotional when they took it out. 1345 01:08:33,550 --> 01:08:35,528 It was gut wrenching for us. 1346 01:08:35,529 --> 01:08:38,139 And we were determined to get it back. 1347 01:08:38,140 --> 01:08:40,869 One way or another we were going to get it back. 1348 01:08:40,870 --> 01:08:43,839 My plan was I was going to try to buy it at auction. 1349 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,799 Don had put out a fundraiser type event 1350 01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,409 to raise money to buy back the chandelier. 1351 01:08:50,410 --> 01:08:54,728 What other club has that type of commitment from their patrons 1352 01:08:54,729 --> 01:08:58,489 to spend their own hard earned money, not just only visit it, 1353 01:08:58,490 --> 01:08:59,749 but to preserve it? 1354 01:08:59,750 --> 01:09:01,099 I finally made a deal. 1355 01:09:01,100 --> 01:09:03,249 We bought the chandelier for $7,000. 1356 01:09:03,250 --> 01:09:05,799 And we rehung it. 1357 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:09,459 We had all the spotlights down on it, shining different colors, 1358 01:09:09,460 --> 01:09:10,829 so that it would glisten. 1359 01:09:10,830 --> 01:09:12,108 It was just beautiful. 1360 01:09:12,109 --> 01:09:13,759 And it was very emotional. 1361 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,289 It was a proud moment that the scene came together like that. 1362 01:09:17,290 --> 01:09:19,579 And then it was a big dance party afterwards. 1363 01:09:19,580 --> 01:09:24,099 And looking back on it, it hurts now knowing that everything 1364 01:09:24,100 --> 01:09:27,237 was gone right after that. 1365 01:09:27,238 --> 01:09:28,679 President Donald Trump 1366 01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:30,344 declared a national emergency. 1367 01:09:30,345 --> 01:09:32,608 And today Governor Gregg Abbott 1368 01:09:32,609 --> 01:09:34,954 declared a state of disaster in Texas. 1369 01:09:34,955 --> 01:09:36,329 Parts of North Texas are seeing 1370 01:09:36,330 --> 01:09:38,719 an increase in positive cases. 1371 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,919 Dallas County has more cases than anywhere else in the state. 1372 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,669 A heightened sense of urgency. 1373 01:09:43,670 --> 01:09:45,394 Closures of large events. 1374 01:09:45,395 --> 01:09:47,224 No visitors allowed. 1375 01:09:47,225 --> 01:09:49,169 The number of cases should not 1376 01:09:49,170 --> 01:09:53,969 spike if people don't gather in huge groups. 1377 01:09:53,970 --> 01:09:57,239 That Sunday before I was my last show at The Church 1378 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,499 and I just played my heart out, had fun, went out 1379 01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,739 to eat with friends like I always did, 1380 01:10:02,740 --> 01:10:05,309 and came home not realizing that was the last time 1381 01:10:05,310 --> 01:10:07,799 I was going to be in that building. 1382 01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:11,349 I knew months before the pandemic hit the US, 1383 01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:13,679 I had a bad feeling because I watched 1384 01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,979 what was happening in Europe. 1385 01:10:14,980 --> 01:10:17,399 We all saw what happened. 1386 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:21,781 In March, we got the shutdown order from the governor. 1387 01:10:21,782 --> 01:10:24,239 They kept sending out the shutdown, the lockdown 1388 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,799 for longer. 1389 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:33,800 And around April or May, I see a post on Facebook. 1390 01:10:38,410 --> 01:10:40,379 And I called Don right away. 1391 01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:41,330 I'm like, Don, what's going on? 1392 01:10:41,331 --> 01:10:43,125 He's like, yeah, we're having to shut down. 1393 01:11:06,730 --> 01:11:10,419 I remember feeling like it's not even real. 1394 01:11:10,420 --> 01:11:14,869 Like if The Church ends and if that space shuts down, 1395 01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:20,779 I mean it's like truly the end of something monumental. 1396 01:11:20,780 --> 01:11:24,129 I mean, how does that end? 1397 01:11:24,130 --> 01:11:25,819 It was during lockdown in COVID. 1398 01:11:25,820 --> 01:11:29,499 So I got out my phone and I found the Spotify playlist 1399 01:11:29,500 --> 01:11:30,589 that Joe Virus did. 1400 01:11:30,590 --> 01:11:34,159 And I just danced in my backyard on the patio, 1401 01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,099 smoking my clove in memoriam of The Church. 1402 01:11:37,100 --> 01:11:39,110 And it hurt. 1403 01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:46,199 I basically grieved like I had lost somebody. 1404 01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,639 It was a death to me. 1405 01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,329 The church was who I was. 1406 01:11:49,330 --> 01:11:52,489 It was created, who I became. 1407 01:11:52,490 --> 01:11:54,429 It was my home. 1408 01:11:54,430 --> 01:11:56,199 It was the only place I felt safe. 1409 01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,109 And I definitely feel like I've lost something 1410 01:12:01,110 --> 01:12:03,565 that was very important to me. 1411 01:12:18,440 --> 01:12:19,999 We cleaned the club out. 1412 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,969 And then we decided that we would give everybody 1413 01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:25,109 an opportunity to come back in. 1414 01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:28,309 And I think it was really important for The Church 1415 01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:31,131 community to have closure. 1416 01:12:31,132 --> 01:12:32,839 And there was a line of people 1417 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:37,099 all the way around the building, outside down the street. 1418 01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:39,179 People wanted to go in and pay their last respects. 1419 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:41,180 And that was the last time I went there. 1420 01:12:46,420 --> 01:12:48,799 We did that last walkthrough. 1421 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,490 That was like a viewing. 1422 01:12:49,491 --> 01:12:51,849 It was like a viewing at a funeral allowing people 1423 01:12:51,850 --> 01:12:52,580 to go in. 1424 01:12:52,581 --> 01:12:55,209 And I just stayed in the dressing room 1425 01:12:55,210 --> 01:12:58,119 and wrote my name on a wall that was eventually 1426 01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:02,572 going to be torn down and just cried until they forced me out 1427 01:13:02,573 --> 01:13:04,413 of the building. 1428 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:12,409 I mean, there will be people 40 years from now 1429 01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:19,429 when you talk to them, that'll remember being there. 1430 01:13:19,430 --> 01:13:21,470 I didn't think it would affect me, that and... 1431 01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:43,709 I've sort of made peace with the emotional part 1432 01:13:43,710 --> 01:13:46,499 and the emotional component of this building. 1433 01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:47,699 I've let it go. 1434 01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:50,369 At the end of the day for me, I have so many great memories 1435 01:13:50,370 --> 01:13:53,139 here, and that's what I carry forward. 1436 01:13:53,140 --> 01:13:56,399 I don't dwell on what I lost. 1437 01:13:56,400 --> 01:14:00,612 I like to think back on what we had 1438 01:14:00,613 --> 01:14:02,293 and all the great things we did here. 1439 01:14:07,310 --> 01:14:09,199 We immediately went out and started 1440 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,769 looking for a new location. 1441 01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:13,669 And that's when I acquired the Italy club because I 1442 01:14:13,670 --> 01:14:16,249 knew when I looked at it'll do that, The Church 1443 01:14:16,250 --> 01:14:17,379 would do well there. 1444 01:14:17,380 --> 01:14:20,899 I was really upset that he was going 1445 01:14:20,900 --> 01:14:22,519 to reopen The Church already. 1446 01:14:22,520 --> 01:14:25,759 And that he was going to call the night at It'll 1447 01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:26,460 Do The Church. 1448 01:14:26,461 --> 01:14:27,899 I'm like, dude, why. 1449 01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:31,529 Let's let The Church die infamously. 1450 01:14:31,530 --> 01:14:33,109 Let it die legendary. 1451 01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:36,139 Let The Church die, the name die with the building. 1452 01:14:36,140 --> 01:14:37,289 And It'll Do. 1453 01:14:37,290 --> 01:14:39,179 We're back to our roots. 1454 01:14:39,180 --> 01:14:41,399 And we're really more of what we were originally, 1455 01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:44,719 which is just a place to dance, drink, and socialize. 1456 01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,919 I hated it when I walked in there the first time 1457 01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,599 when I first saw it. 1458 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,699 I'm like, man, no, this place, no. 1459 01:14:52,700 --> 01:14:56,629 But now it's like with the people and the vibe 1460 01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:59,699 and the music and the lighting, it just, yeah, it works. 1461 01:14:59,700 --> 01:15:02,215 It felt like being at home again in a different home. 1462 01:15:53,730 --> 01:15:57,119 Listen, I support Joe in his decisions. 1463 01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:58,649 There are personal decisions that he 1464 01:15:58,650 --> 01:16:00,189 has to make for his life. 1465 01:16:00,190 --> 01:16:02,639 And I support him and encourage him. 1466 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,819 I wish him the best. 1467 01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:06,367 And I'm sure it'll be good for him. 1468 01:16:06,368 --> 01:16:07,535 But we're going to miss him. 1469 01:16:11,900 --> 01:16:12,433 It's weird to talk about. 1470 01:16:12,434 --> 01:16:14,350 I don't know what to say, so give me a second. 1471 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:26,959 It is what it is. 1472 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:27,960 It's time. 1473 01:16:31,866 --> 01:16:34,629 Oh my God, it's been so long. 1474 01:16:34,630 --> 01:16:36,291 So long, Byron. 1475 01:16:36,292 --> 01:16:37,000 You look great. 1476 01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:38,000 You both do. 1477 01:16:44,990 --> 01:16:45,990 What's up? 1478 01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:56,869 Movers come on Wednesday. 1479 01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:58,465 And we leave Thursday. 1480 01:17:09,228 --> 01:17:12,189 Right now that this is the last time in a long time 1481 01:17:12,190 --> 01:17:15,349 I'm going to see these people. 1482 01:17:15,350 --> 01:17:19,799 This could be the last time I get 1483 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,869 to play my heart out to them. 1484 01:17:21,870 --> 01:17:22,840 All my whole shit. 1485 01:17:22,841 --> 01:17:24,699 Everybody's fucking here. 1486 01:17:24,700 --> 01:17:26,979 What the fuck? 1487 01:17:26,980 --> 01:17:29,529 The question I'm getting all night long is like, why? 1488 01:17:29,530 --> 01:17:30,147 What happened? 1489 01:17:30,147 --> 01:17:30,730 What happened? 1490 01:17:30,730 --> 01:17:31,435 Is it a job? 1491 01:17:31,436 --> 01:17:32,599 Is it whatever? 1492 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:34,969 No, I'm just... I just always dreamed of living in California, 1493 01:17:34,970 --> 01:17:35,930 always wanted that. 1494 01:17:35,931 --> 01:17:38,659 And my wife always wanted a mid-century modern home. 1495 01:17:38,660 --> 01:17:43,759 And we found a mid-century modern home in California. 1496 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:44,620 Fucking yay. 1497 01:17:44,621 --> 01:17:49,389 And I'm going to go and do what I can to take over California. 1498 01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:52,414 So I'm going to miss you all so fucking much. 1499 01:17:52,415 --> 01:17:53,539 And we'll see what happens. 1500 01:17:53,540 --> 01:17:54,739 We'll see what fucking happens. 1501 01:17:54,740 --> 01:17:56,822 I want to play some fucking three T's because it's 1502 01:17:56,823 --> 01:17:58,989 just that good right now. 1503 01:17:58,990 --> 01:18:02,900 I love you. 1504 01:18:07,502 --> 01:18:09,849 Hey, this is Olga from Skinny Puppy, 1505 01:18:09,850 --> 01:18:11,639 and you are being infected by one 1506 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:16,529 of the most disgusting diseases by DJ Virus at The Church. 1507 01:18:16,530 --> 01:18:18,549 Hi, this is cEvin Key. 1508 01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:21,899 And you're listening to Joe Virus at the church. 1509 01:18:21,900 --> 01:18:23,719 Hey, it's Andy from Comic Christ. 1510 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,179 You're listening to Joe Virus at The Church. 1511 01:18:26,180 --> 01:18:28,129 Hi, this is Ronan. 1512 01:18:28,130 --> 01:18:30,239 Welcome to the House of our Lord. 1513 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:31,579 Welcome to The Church. 1514 01:18:31,580 --> 01:18:34,319 You're listening to the beautiful sounds of Mr. Joe 1515 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:34,820 Virus. 1516 01:18:34,821 --> 01:18:37,349 This is ginger fish from Marilyn Manson. 1517 01:18:37,350 --> 01:18:41,499 And you are listening to Joe Virus at The Church. 1518 01:18:41,500 --> 01:18:43,769 Hey, this is Bill Lee from frontline assembly. 1519 01:18:43,770 --> 01:18:46,549 And you are being sonically accosted 1520 01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:49,269 by listening to Joe Virus at The Church. 1521 01:18:49,270 --> 01:18:52,909 This is Groovy, man, from my life with the thrill 1522 01:18:52,910 --> 01:18:58,719 kill kult. And you're listening to Joe Virus. 1523 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:01,670 I whisper your name across them. 1524 01:19:19,580 --> 01:19:22,789 It's so natural that it looks unnatural, I guess. 1525 01:19:22,790 --> 01:19:25,939 It looks... it reminds me of Angkor Wat. 1526 01:19:25,940 --> 01:19:29,939 But that's a temple that was made by man. 1527 01:19:29,940 --> 01:19:32,275 This is just made by weather. 1528 01:19:35,630 --> 01:19:38,339 I lived in Euless out in the Metroplex, 1529 01:19:38,340 --> 01:19:41,899 and I really pretty much just went 1530 01:19:41,900 --> 01:19:43,829 shopping, went to restaurants, went to the club, 1531 01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:45,469 and that was it. 1532 01:19:45,470 --> 01:19:51,542 Here, I come here maybe once a week just to chill, 1533 01:19:51,543 --> 01:19:52,460 just to come out here. 1534 01:19:52,461 --> 01:19:55,899 And sometimes I'll just park in the parking lot over here 1535 01:19:55,900 --> 01:19:56,833 and just sit and look at it. 1536 01:19:56,834 --> 01:19:58,500 Sometimes I'll get up and wander around. 1537 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,699 I miss my friends. 1538 01:20:06,700 --> 01:20:07,600 I miss the club. 1539 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,200 I really miss the club. 1540 01:20:08,201 --> 01:20:09,219 I miss the crowd. 1541 01:20:09,220 --> 01:20:09,990 Both clubs. 1542 01:20:09,991 --> 01:20:11,859 I miss 2424. 1543 01:20:11,860 --> 01:20:14,699 I miss It'll Do. 1544 01:20:14,700 --> 01:20:15,929 I miss the crowd there. 1545 01:20:15,930 --> 01:20:17,609 I don't miss the traffic. 1546 01:20:17,610 --> 01:20:21,669 I have a good, group of friends here. 1547 01:20:21,670 --> 01:20:27,919 An awesome... we're like a family, supporting each other. 1548 01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:28,670 It's just awesome. 1549 01:20:28,671 --> 01:20:30,499 I get to hang out with them a lot. 1550 01:20:30,500 --> 01:20:35,809 I moved here to a desolate desert, 1551 01:20:35,810 --> 01:20:37,829 and I'm not alone anymore. 1552 01:20:37,830 --> 01:20:39,479 And I was more alone in a big city. 1553 01:20:39,480 --> 01:20:41,389 That's what I'm trying to say. 1554 01:20:41,390 --> 01:20:43,105 Yeah, exactly what you said. 1555 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:58,659 So if I had to put the story, the legacy, 1556 01:20:58,660 --> 01:21:00,161 the story of The Church into words, 1557 01:21:00,162 --> 01:21:01,369 it's really difficult for me. 1558 01:21:01,370 --> 01:21:06,709 But I really think it's just about how 1559 01:21:06,710 --> 01:21:09,449 one venue, one place, one building, 1560 01:21:09,450 --> 01:21:15,269 one night in this one building, how it brought all these lonely, 1561 01:21:15,270 --> 01:21:20,669 ostracized, the weirdos, the freaks, the geeks, the nerds, 1562 01:21:20,670 --> 01:21:24,349 the lonesome, the lonely, the sad, the forgotten 1563 01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:26,099 and the displaced people. 1564 01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:27,909 The building gave us all a hug. 1565 01:21:27,910 --> 01:21:33,399 It brought us all in and pushed us together 1566 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:37,316 in a way that I've never felt that anywhere. 1567 01:21:40,980 --> 01:21:47,129 I tried to be tough about it all, the whole time. 1568 01:21:47,130 --> 01:21:50,489 I really missed being... 1569 01:21:50,490 --> 01:21:53,799 I miss it so much. 1570 01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:54,800 Fuck. 1571 01:22:03,620 --> 01:22:05,692 I'm looking for a brick to take. 1572 01:22:05,693 --> 01:22:06,985 I want a piece of the building. 1573 01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:24,909 Yeah, this one's good. 1574 01:22:24,910 --> 01:22:27,129 This is my brick. 1575 01:22:27,130 --> 01:22:28,429 I just missed this place. 1576 01:22:28,430 --> 01:22:29,679 I love this building. 1577 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,320 I don't want to let it go. 1578 01:23:52,478 --> 01:23:55,259 Welcome 1579 01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:56,672 We live on the other side 1580 01:23:56,673 --> 01:23:58,339 We live on the other side 1581 01:23:58,340 --> 01:24:00,299 When cities sleep 1582 01:24:00,300 --> 01:24:01,559 We come alive 1583 01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:02,480 When cities sleep 1584 01:24:02,480 --> 01:24:03,270 We come alive 1585 01:24:03,271 --> 01:24:04,519 In our secret place 1586 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:05,470 We congregate 1587 01:24:05,471 --> 01:24:06,839 In our secret place 1588 01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,149 We congregate 1589 01:24:08,150 --> 01:24:10,199 Every night to celebrate 1590 01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:18,200 Every night to celebrate 1591 01:24:29,980 --> 01:24:32,559 Enter without prejudice 1592 01:24:32,560 --> 01:24:34,279 Enter without prejudice 1593 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,269 No sacred words mean more than this 1594 01:24:36,270 --> 01:24:38,619 No Sacred words mean more than this 1595 01:24:38,620 --> 01:24:40,664 Just take a seat and listen close 1596 01:24:40,665 --> 01:24:43,169 Just take a seat and listen close 1597 01:24:43,170 --> 01:24:45,389 Enjoy some spirits with the ghosts 1598 01:24:45,390 --> 01:24:47,889 Enjoy some spirits with the ghosts 1599 01:24:47,890 --> 01:24:52,699 You, you belong to the night time 1600 01:24:52,700 --> 01:24:56,227 Moving through the shadows of the street lights 1601 01:24:56,228 --> 01:25:00,987 You dance till the moon starts to fall 1602 01:25:00,988 --> 01:25:02,499 You run from the lightning 1603 01:25:02,500 --> 01:25:05,139 You belong to the night 1604 01:25:05,140 --> 01:25:09,139 You, you belong to the nigh time 1605 01:25:09,140 --> 01:25:14,139 Moving through the shadows under street lights 1606 01:25:14,140 --> 01:25:17,639 You dance till the moon starts to fall 1607 01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:21,440 You run from the light when you belong to the night 1608 01:25:40,353 --> 01:25:42,719 Echos of the sound and lights 1609 01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:44,399 Echos of the sound and light 1610 01:25:44,400 --> 01:25:46,679 Shadows dance in pure delight 1611 01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:49,119 Shadows dance in pure delight 1612 01:25:49,120 --> 01:25:51,279 the rhythm is what pulled you in 1613 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:53,119 The rhythm is what pulled you in 1614 01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,464 Don't let this feeling ever end 1615 01:25:55,465 --> 01:25:58,361 Don't let this feeling ever it 1616 01:25:58,362 --> 01:26:02,261 You, you belong to the nigh time 1617 01:26:02,262 --> 01:26:06,689 Moving through the shadows under street lights 1618 01:26:06,690 --> 01:26:10,629 You dance till the moon starts to fall 1619 01:26:10,630 --> 01:26:15,194 You run from the light when you belong to the night 1620 01:26:15,195 --> 01:26:20,449 You, you belong to the nigh time 1621 01:26:20,450 --> 01:26:24,409 Moving through the shadows under street lights 1622 01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:28,289 You dance till the moon starts to fall 1623 01:26:28,290 --> 01:26:32,890 You run from the light when you belong to the night125241

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