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We better get to the main event. People
have to work in the hall.
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Thanks for coming out on a school night,
everybody.
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When we're through refurbishing, we're
going to have a proper housewarming, but
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until then... Everyone, pick up a hammer
and help us tear down some walls.
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It's going to be your wine filter,
buddy, so you get first crack.
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Great.
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I get one room, she gets the whole
house. As long as we're clear.
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I have always wanted to do this.
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All right, everybody, stand back. I'm
not sure my homeowner's insurance covers
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blows to the head.
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You swing like a girl.
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What is that?
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Hey, Larry, what can you tell us?
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Not much.
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Emmy won't be able to give you anything
on year of death until we can get him
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out of here. Here, we'll check in the
morning.
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Look at this.
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What is it?
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Something I haven't seen in years.
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L .A. gear jacket.
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It'll look as sure as a hood on it.
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Yeah, my guess is he's wearing Jordache
chains and Puma sneakers.
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I used to rock Pumas back in the day.
Yeah?
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I used to rock members only.
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No, you didn't. Yeah, I did.
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Detectives?
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What is all that time? Well, besides his
questionable fashion sense, he's
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probably been back there since the 80s.
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Good morning, detective.
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Morning. Let's start.
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These items were retrieved from the
body.
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Digital watch, money clip with $147 in
cash.
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No ID. This envelope, sealed.
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Looks like there's more cash in there.
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Forensics will open it later today. Now,
the body.
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Someone did a very good job of wrapping.
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The subject is fairly well preserved.
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And while the plastic they used served
to mask the smell of decay, it also
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functioned as the perfect preservative
of forensic evidence.
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Any bodily anomaly?
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The occipital bone has separated.
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It's unclear if it's trauma or skeletal
decay over time.
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Two fingers broken and healed on the
right hand.
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It also looks like he broke his nose
once.
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The boxer?
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Or at least someone accustomed to
putting up a fight.
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He's also missing his dorsal floating
rib. Looks like a birth defect.
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How long is he going to last for the
time of death?
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Fortunately, the chest cavity is riddled
with recluse spiders.
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The forensic entomologist will get to
time of death within a year based on how
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many generations of spiders gestated.
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Wait a minute, what's that?
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Is that decay?
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Inconclusive.
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Looks like a brandy.
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He might be right. It's definitely a
keloid scar.
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Branding. We'll do that.
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Okay, so the house was built in 1921. It
changed hands between private owners
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eight times until 1975 when Omega Kappa
Rho bought it as its fraternity house.
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Omega Kappa Rho? Yep.
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Getting bodies is not a stretch.
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They're one of the most notorious of
black fraternities.
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Really? Come on, man. You didn't know
that?
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You're not a fraternity boy.
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I'm not a college boy.
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A couple of my sorority sisters used to
date some of those gorillas for a
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minute. It's one hardcore house.
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Branding pledges was for openers. Ritual
beatings with whips and hammers.
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Drinking vomit.
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I thought they weren't around anymore.
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Actually, they're not. In fact, this
particular house had its charter revoked
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1981. They operated as an unaffiliated
house until the demise of the whole
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fraternity in 1992.
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But what if that could be my boy? The
detective's just got to see us
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ma 'am. We're going to have to give him
a little more time, okay? Listen, I have
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been here since 7 a .m. this morning.
Now, can I speak to somebody?
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Officer Andrews, would you help this
lady, please?
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Please. Our son went missing 20 years
ago.
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Here's a picture.
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He's got a long scar right down his
right leg. Sir.
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Please, officers, if we could just talk
to a detective for five minutes. Ma 'am,
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I understand that you see all these
other people are ahead of you. Look, he
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an athlete.
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He broke his nose when he was 16.
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Romney. First name?
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We would throw poor, poor people in us
money.
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So when Dennis got a full football
scholarship, it was like we won the
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Three States.
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He was the first in either family to go
to college.
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Ever since he was a child, we kept on
saying, you college material, baby.
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Hard -working kid.
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Board work till you drop it, unless
somebody stopped him.
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When your son went missing in 84, the
police report states that he may have
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the victim of a robbery or a suicide.
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Yeah, we were told that.
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But we never believed it.
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He had so much to live for.
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But we had to move on.
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And after a while, you ran out of tears.
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So we buried our boy in our minds years
ago.
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But if it is our son, he deserves a
proper burial.
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Dennis joined a fraternity.
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Omega Capro.
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That's all he could talk about.
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He was so excited that they had accepted
him.
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Did his fraternity brothers give him any
tattoos or markings?
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Not that we know of.
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So is it true that they wrapped Dennis
in plastic and buried him in a wall?
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We don't know if it's your son.
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Well, it's somebody's boy.
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How can someone do that? Did Dennis have
any unusual physical characteristics?
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What do you mean?
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Anything we can use to make an accurate
identification.
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He was born without one of his ribs.
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Doctor said it would affect his
breathing, but he was fine.
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Do you have our son?
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We're still searching for answers, sir.
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His parents reported Dennis missing
October 20th, 1984, the day after
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weekend. The original police report said
that his car was found at the beach.
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There were also some stolen items in his
room, a Walkman, CD player, you know,
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some things that his frat brothers had
been missing.
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He was also going to be cut from the
football team, so the assumption was
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suicide.
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Maybe it was. Maybe he wrapped himself
in that plastic and climbed into the
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wall.
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Hey, hey.
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What you got on 84?
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1984, Omega Capero had 41 actives and
pledges, or line brothers as they called
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them. Well, the way I see it, if you're
going to stuff somebody inside a wall,
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you either move very far away or you
stay close.
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Well, let's start with close.
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All right.
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Nine of them still live in the LA area.
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Great. Let's get to knocking on some
doors.
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Well, maybe we can save on the shoe
leather.
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Tomorrow, let's host ourselves an Omega
Capero reunion.
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Raymond Washington, Kevin Dunnigan, Greg
Hamer, Judge Carl Bouchard, John
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Federa. Perfect attendant.
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Call from Homicide Division. Tends to
clear a man's schedule.
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Blue shirt.
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He keeps looking at the mirror.
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Raymond Washington.
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Could be nurse.
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Maybe he's used to being in an
interrogation room.
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What about the red sweater?
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Kevin Dunnigan. What's his deal?
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Guilt. Poor social skills.
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That square -ass head of his.
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What about the well -put -together one,
Marvin Lloyd?
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Yeah, I've heard of Marvin Lloyd.
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Schoolteacher in what?
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Teacher of the year, if I'm not
mistaken.
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You see something?
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That's what I'm not seeing.
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These trap boys haven't seen each other
for a while.
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Even under these circumstances, there
should be a fair amount of glad
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Well, who isn't happy to see each other?
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Let's start with Blue Shirt.
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Homecoming weekend, 1984.
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What about it? Any idea where you were
that week?
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I was a junior.
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And? That was my junior year abroad.
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London and Amsterdam.
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You have any way of proving this?
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You can ask my wife.
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That's when I met her.
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Homecoming, 1984.
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Yeah? I know it's been a long time, but
do you remember your whereabouts that
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evening?
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Yes, you do. There was a huge party. An
Orwellian theme.
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1984, get it?
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I was there.
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Maybe a few pounds lighter. A little
more hair.
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Why remember so much about some random
party? That's the night I met Libby.
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Libby?
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That's your girlfriend?
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For the night.
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Let's say the first time for everything.
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We had to go outside into the bushes
behind the house because my roommate was
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passed out on my bed. There was no place
else to go because the house was being
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remodeled and there was construction
crap every place else.
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Wait a minute.
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Outside was our last choice.
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First, we tried the chapter room in the
basement.
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You were allowed to go there when you
had a short film.
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But it was locked.
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I remember hearing voices, so I nodded.
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Come on, man, I need the room.
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Owen? Was Dennis in the chapter room?
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Yeah, he was.
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Step off, Black.
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So what was he doing in there?
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I don't know.
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Except for hookups, line brothers were
never allowed to hang out in there.
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Chapter room was used for lineups,
meetings, initiations.
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So what kind of initiations?
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Wild -ass stuff.
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Medieval.
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Their defense was car batteries.
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They made some guys eat dog food.
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And they were always the pats.
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They doused guys with beer, and God
knows what else.
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One time, I heard they strung a line
brother up on a rope and wailed him.
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Is that what was happening to Dennis? I
don't know. I didn't find out.
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Five minutes later, I didn't care.
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You said you heard voices.
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Who else was in the room?
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I don't remember.
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I... What?
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A little while later, I came back inside
to get us some beers before round two.
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This was back in the day when there
still was a round two.
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It didn't rain. That's when I saw three
guys come up from the chapter.
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It was Greg Hamer, Marvin Lloyd, and
Carl Bouchard.
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Greg Hamer, Marvin Lloyd, Carl Bouchard.
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I don't know about you, but I'm getting
the feeling that 20 years ago, before
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they were the dedicated, successful
pillars of society they are today, that
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of these men, or all of them, wrapped
Dennis Romney in a sheet of plastic and
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buried him inside a frat house wall.
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We all know Judge Bouchard.
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We know a little bit about Marvin Lloyd.
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What do we have on Greg Hamer? Well,
he's a self -made millionaire.
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He knows.
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Long -time companion John King started a
photocopying chain in the 90s.
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See what they have to say? Well, let's
take this off still. Stay out of the
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interrogation room for as long as
possible.
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Who gets who?
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I'll take Judge Bichard. I went to
school with a lot of guys like him.
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all proper now, but back in the day,
they were beer -drinking toga -wearing
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maniacs who loved to swat each other on
the butt with paddles.
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Well, go get them.
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Joel, you take Hamer. You take Marlon
Lloyd.
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John, Principal Lloyd.
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Advice.
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My mistake.
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Vice principal is about as powerful a
job as vice president.
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I'm supposed to be in charge of
discipline, but it really doesn't work.
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Everybody knows I'm a marshmallow.
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I saw the news, detective.
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Was it Dennis' body in that wall? You
remember Dennis?
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Yes. Was it him?
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Looks like it.
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Quite a sigh there, Marvin.
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What's that about?
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Shock. Surprise.
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And I'm sorry to say, relief.
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I presume you know that I was with
Dennis a couple of nights before his
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reported him missing.
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Me, Greg, and Carl. Why do you presume
that? You let everyone else but the
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of us go.
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We were with him the night of the
homecoming party.
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And for the last 20 years, I've blamed
myself.
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For his death.
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Did you put his body in the wall? No.
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Detective, how much do you know about
Dennis Romney?
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Not much.
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We suspected him of stealing from his
fellow brothers. Do you know that?
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Dennis... Dennis was a sweet kid.
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A real sweet kid.
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He was dirt poor from someplace down in
South Central.
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Got to school on a football scholarship.
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The Boosters used to like to lean on the
fraternity, he said.
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Let the football players in.
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You know, give him some place to stay,
some friends and whatnot.
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He got Dennis.
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It was never really his fault, but he
didn't quite fit in, you know?
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I mean, he tried, but... I don't know,
maybe he tried too hard.
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So what happened that night?
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We were pretty sure he was stealing from
us, so... We decided to have an
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accounting in the chapter room.
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An accounting?
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It's fraternity speak for a trial But we
didn't want Dennis to know what was
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coming because the line brother going
down to the chapter room usually
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physical pain So we lured him there with
the promise of a bomb party
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We
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tried asking him some questions We
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was brutal
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He got so high, he thought we were all
kidding.
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So we decided to leave him there.
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Give him a chance to come down a little
bit.
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When we went back an hour later, he
wasn't there.
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And you never told the police any of
this 20 years ago?
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Tell the police we were all stoned out
of our minds on pot.
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Now, you started out by saying that you
blamed yourself for his death.
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Well, I couldn't help but think, I don't
know, maybe he wasn't as high that
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night as we thought he was. You know,
maybe he was pretending. Maybe
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he was listening to everything we were
saying about him.
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I mean, we found out later that he was
about to be cut from the football team.
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Maybe it was just...
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Too much for him.
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So he drowned himself.
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Right.
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Except that he didn't drown himself,
though, did he?
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No.
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Do you have any idea who put his body in
the wall?
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Detective, the last image I have of
Dennis in my mind is you sitting there
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holding that bomb.
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A bomb?
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Please.
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This is the last time we saw Dennis,
Detective, but he sure as hell wasn't
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holding a bomb.
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This is during the 80s, Detective.
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The decade that took us from cocaine to
Rogaine.
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To get Dennis down to the chapter room,
we had to dangle some fat rails of
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Bolivian marching powder.
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Last time we saw Dennis, he was hunched
over a mirror holding a rolled -up
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dollar bill.
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He's a cocaine user?
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We need to get someone to give him some.
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What have you heard about Dennis?
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Not much.
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You know, sometimes when you have a fish
out of water, you try to adapt.
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Grow legs, learn how to breathe
different, how to walk.
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Sometimes that fish will give you the
finger and say, screw you, you rich
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bastards.
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So you had a little bit of a chip on his
shoulder.
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The size of Kansas.
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He never stopped going on about how we
were all born with silver spoons up our
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butts. How we all thought we were better
than him.
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You know, I know this isn't politically
correct.
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But we were better than him.
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Because at least we were okay with who
we were.
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If you all didn't like him so much, why
didn't you just kick him out of the
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frat?
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Point of clarification.
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It's called a fraternity.
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You no sooner call your fraternity a
frat than you'd call your country a...
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Why don't you just kick him out of the
fraternity?
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00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,160
I could never figure that out.
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Either he had friends in high places or
he had a picture of someone with a goat.
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He was blackmailing someone?
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I'm joking.
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It's probably just pressure from the
football boosters.
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And that was the last time you saw him
in that room?
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00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,920
And we asked him some questions about
the missing stuff. Where'd you get this
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money? From my trust fund, Brother Carl.
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00:19:25,020 --> 00:19:26,240
Where'd you get this walkman?
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But he was too hard to answer.
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So we left him alone, let him come down.
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We came back.
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He was gone.
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Two down, one to go. You're next.
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00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:44,120
Not exactly.
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I told you I'd take care of him, not
talk to him. A man like that could talk
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legal circles around me.
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00:19:54,450 --> 00:19:56,170
Catherine, I thought you'd forgotten
about me.
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How could I ever forget you, Judge?
347
00:20:01,370 --> 00:20:03,350
I was expecting Detective Pierce.
348
00:20:03,650 --> 00:20:06,350
Well, she's attending to other matters
right now. Shouldn't you?
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Me? Nah.
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I'm a full -service DDA.
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I know what's going on here.
352
00:20:14,510 --> 00:20:17,410
Are Greg and Marvin being interrogated
as well?
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00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:18,810
Interviewed. Coffee?
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00:20:19,330 --> 00:20:20,410
Sure, why not?
355
00:20:20,890 --> 00:20:22,490
Detective Pierce brews her own.
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French roast.
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00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:24,719
Smart move.
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00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,660
I can't stand the swirl they pour
downstairs.
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00:20:27,620 --> 00:20:28,620
How do you like it?
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00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:31,440
Black. Me too.
361
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:46,500
Counselor, would it be paranoid of me to
think that you're trying to tame my DNA
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00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:48,800
by offering me a pristine coffee mug?
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00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,160
Paranoia is a psychological prognosis,
Your Honor.
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00:20:51,470 --> 00:20:53,730
Collection of DNA requires the
permission of the suspect.
365
00:20:54,090 --> 00:20:55,790
We both know it doesn't, and you're not
a suspect.
366
00:20:56,030 --> 00:20:58,510
Bull. I adjudicate cases like these
every day.
367
00:20:59,230 --> 00:21:03,690
Meeting with Detective Pierce was
courtesy. This bait -and -switch tactic
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tantamount to breach of promise.
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00:21:05,210 --> 00:21:07,550
You're right. It was merely an extended
courtesy.
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00:21:07,790 --> 00:21:10,650
No estoppel to evoke, no promises were
made or broken.
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00:21:11,010 --> 00:21:14,830
Need I remind you, Counselor, that I
have judicial immunity in this matter?
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Need I remind you that you don't have
any immunity for actions you committed
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before you passed the bar?
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Actions I committed.
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00:21:23,900 --> 00:21:24,900
Well,
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I think it's time for this judge to call
an attorney.
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Before you spend every last dollar you
ever made defending yourself as the star
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of the next trial of the century, ask
yourself, is this how you want your life
379
00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:37,999
to end?
380
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:44,060
After I walk out of here, we'll meet
again. My bench, my rules, my rulings. I
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cannot wait for that day.
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00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:46,980
That's not a threat.
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This is a threat.
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00:21:49,270 --> 00:21:51,370
I could have you thrown off of every
case that I'm on.
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00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:57,150
I could have you recused under Section
170 .1, disqualification for actual
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00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:59,030
But that day's never going to happen. Do
you know why?
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00:21:59,550 --> 00:22:01,730
Because forensics is working overtime on
this one.
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00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:05,850
And you know they're going to find a
fingerprint in the plastic, hair under
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tape, something.
390
00:22:07,870 --> 00:22:09,850
This is your last chance to beat the DNA
Express.
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00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:13,970
Because right now, two of LAPD's best
detectives are working their best game
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00:22:13,970 --> 00:22:16,850
two of your least reliable brothers. And
you know who gets the best odds on this
393
00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:18,660
one? The guy who faked first.
394
00:22:19,580 --> 00:22:20,580
What's it going to be, Your Honor?
395
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,540
Because time is a -wasting.
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00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,560
I told the others that if we got
attorneys at the jump, it would just
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attention. I also said that it was a
good chance that no one would be able to
398
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,480
connect us to Dennis and this whole
thing would just slide by.
399
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,600
But that's not the only reason. I said
no lawyers.
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00:22:44,140 --> 00:22:46,680
I knew that if I had an attorney, he
would advise me not to talk.
401
00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:52,640
I suppose I want to talk. Before you do,
have you waved your Miranda?
402
00:22:53,620 --> 00:22:58,120
Yes. Then tell me what the hell
happened, Carl. It is not what you
403
00:22:58,120 --> 00:22:59,300
don't you tell me what I think?
404
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,700
It was an accident.
405
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,720
We just wanted to ask him some questions
about the things that were missing.
406
00:23:08,300 --> 00:23:10,620
We got him to go down to the chapter
room to do some cocaine.
407
00:23:11,220 --> 00:23:12,720
We started asking him questions.
408
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,080
Did you take it?
409
00:23:18,030 --> 00:23:19,770
You beat the hell out of him. Yeah?
410
00:23:20,350 --> 00:23:21,830
And it went on for quite some time.
411
00:23:25,470 --> 00:23:31,090
You damn thief! You got the wrong man,
Holmes. I ain't no thief.
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00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:36,550
You guys ought to see yourself,
seriously.
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00:23:36,950 --> 00:23:39,570
Go get that mirror off the table and
have a look. You're hilarious.
414
00:23:39,910 --> 00:23:42,990
You ain't nothing but a welfare cheese
-eating moocham, right?
415
00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:44,370
Where'd you get this money?
416
00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:46,490
Talk about trust fund, Brother Carl.
417
00:23:46,690 --> 00:23:50,230
It's a lot like Brother Greg's trust
fund, only non -existent. Where'd you
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00:23:50,230 --> 00:23:51,250
this walkman, thief?
419
00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:53,730
From the same place Brother Maury got
his.
420
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The getting place.
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00:23:55,810 --> 00:23:56,830
Get him up off the floor.
422
00:23:57,250 --> 00:24:00,090
Get him to see his sorry -ass face in
one second more.
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00:24:03,790 --> 00:24:05,830
We left him there to think it over.
424
00:24:06,670 --> 00:24:08,390
It's the last time any of us thought
about it.
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00:24:17,389 --> 00:24:20,010
We went back upstairs to the party.
About an hour passed.
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00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:22,670
We went back down to the chapter room.
427
00:24:28,230 --> 00:24:33,470
He wasn't moving.
428
00:24:34,330 --> 00:24:38,110
The cocaine that we had left on the
table, it was gone. I assume it would be
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00:24:38,110 --> 00:24:39,110
his nose.
430
00:24:39,630 --> 00:24:40,650
He had an overdose.
431
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,880
We tried to revive him, but he was gone.
432
00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:47,440
So you didn't call 911?
433
00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:50,560
We talked about it, yeah.
434
00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:53,900
But this was during the era of cocaine
death scandals.
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00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,900
We had all done some ourselves.
436
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,360
It would have been in our systems if
they had tested us. I mean, we would
437
00:24:59,360 --> 00:24:59,999
been ruined.
438
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,340
This was supposed to be the beginning of
our lives, not the end.
439
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,160
I mean, Marvin, he wanted to...
440
00:25:05,450 --> 00:25:08,430
Run for public office. Greg, he wanted
to become a movie star, and I wanted to
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00:25:08,430 --> 00:25:10,490
be a lawyer. None of that would have
happened if we had ever called 911.
442
00:25:10,890 --> 00:25:12,370
So you decided to bury him in a wall?
443
00:25:12,590 --> 00:25:15,030
We wanted to take him to the ocean, but
there was a party going on upstairs.
444
00:25:15,330 --> 00:25:19,810
Marvin suggested that we take him out
through one of those little windows in
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chapter room.
446
00:25:21,490 --> 00:25:22,590
There's some people out there.
447
00:25:23,770 --> 00:25:25,990
We just needed a place to hold him.
448
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:27,750
24 hours.
449
00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:31,470
And somebody, I can't remember who, they
suggested.
450
00:25:34,730 --> 00:25:35,790
Oh, they suggested the wall.
451
00:25:37,410 --> 00:25:38,410
Now, good.
452
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:40,650
The chapter room was a style.
453
00:25:41,130 --> 00:25:42,650
We're in the middle of having a remodel.
454
00:25:42,970 --> 00:25:47,390
Well, we're supposed to be kind of
lucky. The construction crew is left
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00:25:47,390 --> 00:25:48,730
everything we need to do to hide the
body.
456
00:26:03,690 --> 00:26:10,550
The plan was to take him out of the wall
the next night, put him in his car,
457
00:26:10,810 --> 00:26:16,550
drive him to the ocean, and dump his
body in it. It was supposed to look like
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00:26:16,550 --> 00:26:19,310
suicide. And what went wrong?
459
00:26:21,210 --> 00:26:23,830
We were all so hungover the next
morning, we overslept.
460
00:26:26,550 --> 00:26:30,310
I was making my way through the party
wreckage on the first floor when I heard
461
00:26:30,310 --> 00:26:31,310
the sound.
462
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,180
By the time I got downstairs, Dems' tomb
was already sealed.
463
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,040
We said nothing.
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00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,600
We just went on with our lives.
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We were young.
466
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,040
Yes, what we did was bad.
467
00:26:53,260 --> 00:26:54,260
Illegal? Yeah.
468
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:59,100
But it still doesn't change the fact
that Dennis Rahming died of an
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00:26:59,100 --> 00:27:01,300
self -induced drug overdose.
470
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:02,740
What about the cracked skull?
471
00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:05,780
Nobody cracked his skull. What are you
talking about?
472
00:27:06,220 --> 00:27:07,680
That's not what the medical examiner
said.
473
00:27:08,380 --> 00:27:11,840
Blunt trauma to the back of the skull
looks like a two -by -four or a baseball
474
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,040
bat. No, no, no, no, no. That is
impossible.
475
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,420
He died of a drug overdose. Nobody ever
cracked his skull. What are you talking
476
00:27:17,420 --> 00:27:20,720
about? What you already know. This
wasn't some accident or youthful
477
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,040
misadventure. This was murder, Your
Honor.
478
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:30,080
Ms. Romling was smacked in the back of
the head hard enough to break his skull.
479
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:31,160
Why would someone want to do that?
480
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,480
Well, maybe it was an accident. Happened
at the accounting.
481
00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:37,660
And then Carl came up with this drug
overdose story to cover. That way they
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00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:41,380
failure to report instead of
manslaughter or reckless homicide.
483
00:27:41,980 --> 00:27:44,620
I don't think that was a story. I think
it was telling the truth.
484
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,620
At least as far as he knows it.
485
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:47,920
You sure?
486
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,500
If you spend as much time with guys like
this as I have, you could tell.
487
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,220
Yeah, well, I've never had the
privilege.
488
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:56,320
That's your point.
489
00:27:56,740 --> 00:27:57,740
It's no point.
490
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,640
It's like you said. We spent more time
with guys like him.
491
00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:03,420
Something on your mind, detective?
492
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:05,620
Well, nothing worth talking about.
493
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:06,880
Hold on.
494
00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:10,380
Dennis Roming was found with a money
clip full of cash.
495
00:28:10,980 --> 00:28:13,600
But he also had a sealed envelope with
$600 in it. Why?
496
00:28:14,780 --> 00:28:15,780
Maybe he stole it.
497
00:28:15,980 --> 00:28:16,980
From who?
498
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:19,920
As far as we know, nobody reported $600
stolen.
499
00:28:20,140 --> 00:28:21,400
Maybe somebody gave it to him.
500
00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:22,860
Why?
501
00:28:23,020 --> 00:28:24,060
Some kind of payment.
502
00:28:24,460 --> 00:28:26,780
Maybe he did a job, sold drugs.
503
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,940
Or maybe he had a picture of somebody
with a goat.
504
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,200
What?
505
00:28:34,419 --> 00:28:35,680
Something Hamer said to me.
506
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,880
Why didn't you kick him out of the
fraternity?
507
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:39,960
I can never figure that out.
508
00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:44,960
Either he had friends in high places, or
he had a picture of someone with a
509
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:45,960
goat.
510
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,140
Was Blackmail on someone?
511
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:50,360
I'm joking.
512
00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:53,080
Oh, maybe he wasn't joking.
513
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,320
So who was Dennis Blackmail?
514
00:28:56,020 --> 00:28:57,020
I don't know.
515
00:28:57,940 --> 00:29:01,360
Are they still doing DNA tests on the
saliva from the envelope seal?
516
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,340
Sure, but it won't come in for a week.
517
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,100
And we might not even get anything.
518
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:06,960
Right, but Greg Hamer won't know that.
519
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:09,900
You like wasting my time, Greg?
520
00:29:10,660 --> 00:29:11,660
What?
521
00:29:12,060 --> 00:29:13,540
Why was Dennis blackmailing you?
522
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:15,540
Excuse me? You heard me.
523
00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:17,560
Dennis was blackmailing you. Why?
524
00:29:17,940 --> 00:29:19,040
Dennis wasn't blackmailing me.
525
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840
Then why'd you give him a sealed
envelope with $600 in it?
526
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,040
You found the envelope, Greg.
527
00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:26,580
It was in Dennis' pocket.
528
00:29:31,850 --> 00:29:34,810
In 1984, DNA technology was just in its
infancy.
529
00:29:36,490 --> 00:29:37,490
Not anymore.
530
00:29:38,710 --> 00:29:43,110
Caught that water bottle you were
drinking out of earlier, swabbed it, the
531
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:44,510
sample, put it in the analyzer.
532
00:29:44,830 --> 00:29:47,330
We compared it with the sample from the
envelope.
533
00:29:49,490 --> 00:29:50,930
It matched.
534
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:57,190
He swabbed it and put it in the
analyzer.
535
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:59,270
Let's see if he buys it.
536
00:30:01,090 --> 00:30:04,230
When you were licking that glue strip on
the back of the envelope 20 years ago,
537
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:08,450
you never in your wildest dreams
imagined that it would come back to
538
00:30:09,730 --> 00:30:12,790
The way your heart's pounding right now,
I'd say that's probably about what it
539
00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:14,010
feels like to be haunted, wouldn't you?
540
00:30:14,230 --> 00:30:17,010
I have no idea how that envelope ended
up on Dennis.
541
00:30:18,070 --> 00:30:19,070
But it was yours?
542
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:21,550
Yes. He was blackmailing you?
543
00:30:21,770 --> 00:30:22,950
Yes. Why?
544
00:30:24,210 --> 00:30:25,990
Do you have a picture of you with a
goat, Greg?
545
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:27,310
No.
546
00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:29,410
A baseball player.
547
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:36,880
Threatened out at you?
548
00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:39,860
We didn't call it that back then.
549
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:43,820
Back then, it was telling the world
someone was in a life.
550
00:30:47,140 --> 00:30:48,740
Why don't you tell me what happened that
night, Greg?
551
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:51,560
I knew about the accounting.
552
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,400
I gave Dennis a heads up.
553
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,240
I was hoping he would give me some
credit for it.
554
00:31:02,260 --> 00:31:05,600
Instead, he said if I didn't give him
another $600,
555
00:31:07,580 --> 00:31:10,760
He would use the accounting as his
opportunity to tell my secret.
556
00:31:12,820 --> 00:31:15,820
So I went to the bank. I got the money.
I put it in the envelope. I was going to
557
00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,100
give it to him later, but I never got
the chance.
558
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,660
And then the next morning, I noticed it
was missing.
559
00:31:24,260 --> 00:31:27,220
And I never knew what happened to it
until you brought it up right now.
560
00:31:27,580 --> 00:31:28,600
Here's another possibility.
561
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,560
You all left anything in the chapter
room.
562
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,360
You took that as your opportunity to pay
him.
563
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:39,020
So you went back downstairs, gave him
the envelope, and something went wrong.
564
00:31:39,060 --> 00:31:42,220
What happened? No, whoa, whoa, time out.
What happened? Time out. What happened?
565
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:42,919
What happened?
566
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,840
I never went back down there without the
other guy. Why not?
567
00:31:46,220 --> 00:31:50,460
Because I couldn't. Because the door was
locked, and Carl, as the fraternity
568
00:31:50,460 --> 00:31:53,440
house president, was the only one who
had the key. Maybe Carl did it.
569
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,120
Yeah, he's a rock -solid alibi.
570
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,000
He was playing foosball in the living
room for the house championship.
571
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,300
All right, so what about Marvin?
572
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,120
Goes back to Carl with the only key.
573
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:05,980
Okay, back to Carl. Maybe he paid
someone to say he's playing foosball.
574
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,240
Paper's alibi.
575
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,360
Not possible.
576
00:32:08,660 --> 00:32:11,260
Maybe you're right. A college boy would
never do something like that.
577
00:32:11,660 --> 00:32:13,360
What do you know about college,
detective?
578
00:32:13,780 --> 00:32:15,320
Trust me, I know men like this.
579
00:32:15,940 --> 00:32:17,100
So you keep saying.
580
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,040
Detective, would you excuse us?
581
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:31,500
So what is your problem?
582
00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:33,380
My problem?
583
00:32:34,260 --> 00:32:35,260
What is your problem?
584
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:38,620
You got an issue with being the poor
black child from the hood? I don't want
585
00:32:38,620 --> 00:32:39,620
hear it. That's your problem.
586
00:32:39,780 --> 00:32:42,820
You can sling insults all you want to
because you're the one who's fronting
587
00:32:42,820 --> 00:32:45,280
because you're from the hood just like
me and you know it.
588
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,680
Bobby, you better check yourself.
589
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,320
You know nothing about me. No, I know
all I need to know about you. You know
590
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,580
what I'm saying? Because you give
yourself away. Your little clothes, your
591
00:32:52,580 --> 00:32:56,120
little attitude, your college education,
they all say uptown, but you ain't
592
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,120
fooling me.
593
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,840
You were born poor, raised poor, and no
matter how bougie you act up here,
594
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:01,819
you're still poor.
595
00:33:01,820 --> 00:33:03,420
Well, you got one thing right. I did go
to college.
596
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:07,520
And the fact that you didn't or couldn't
is your failing. My failing? Mm -hmm.
597
00:33:07,860 --> 00:33:11,380
Failing. I chose not to go to college. I
had the full ride.
598
00:33:11,740 --> 00:33:16,480
I made a military choice to defend my
country so that people like you could go
599
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,200
to college, graduate, and come out and
look down your noses at people like me.
600
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,540
Boy, I am from Clancyville, North
Carolina.
601
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:25,200
We were poor.
602
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:26,380
Rural poor.
603
00:33:26,570 --> 00:33:30,190
None of your fancy -ass city poor, I
only have one TV and no cable.
604
00:33:31,030 --> 00:33:33,530
You drank powdered milk and ate
government cheese.
605
00:33:34,130 --> 00:33:38,090
When I got a full ride to state school,
I worked hard, damn hard, to learn how
606
00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:41,670
to speak properly so I could fool the
likes of them. Yeah, so you could forget
607
00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:42,670
where you came from.
608
00:33:43,050 --> 00:33:47,150
No, so I could fool the likes of Judge
Carl Bouchard and all the Marvin Lloyds
609
00:33:47,150 --> 00:33:50,190
of the world into thinking that I, too,
was born with a silver spoon in my
610
00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:51,190
mouth.
611
00:33:52,530 --> 00:33:54,870
We shouldn't really be doing this,
Bobby. Come on.
612
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,280
Have you heard a word I said?
613
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Uh, yeah, powdered cheese and stuff.
614
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:05,380
Powdered milk.
615
00:34:05,620 --> 00:34:07,400
You mix it with water, it turns blue.
616
00:34:10,139 --> 00:34:11,139
What is it?
617
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,100
I know who killed Dennis Romney.
618
00:34:33,260 --> 00:34:34,800
Those things will kill you, you know.
619
00:34:36,820 --> 00:34:39,560
Second, how'd you know to look for me
here?
620
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,580
You know, we can spot our own.
621
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:44,780
You? Well, I quit nine months ago.
622
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,440
Better man than I am.
623
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,520
Dennis Rahman was a despicable,
blackmailing creep, wasn't he?
624
00:34:53,820 --> 00:34:57,000
You told me he was just a poor, sweet
kid who was just trying to fit in.
625
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,580
But he wasn't that at all, though, was
he, Martin?
626
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,000
No, Dennis was.
627
00:35:02,890 --> 00:35:06,550
mean -spirited jerk with a chip on his
shoulder.
628
00:35:07,610 --> 00:35:12,550
He was contorted by envy and self
-hatred.
629
00:35:13,570 --> 00:35:18,830
That poor sweet kid, the one who was
trying to fit in, that poor kid was you,
630
00:35:18,850 --> 00:35:19,850
wasn't he, Marvin?
631
00:35:21,530 --> 00:35:22,530
You know what?
632
00:35:22,770 --> 00:35:26,350
They have this thing online where you
can pull up old college yearbooks, high
633
00:35:26,350 --> 00:35:27,350
school yearbooks.
634
00:35:27,730 --> 00:35:28,810
That's you in college.
635
00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:31,570
Marvin Lloyd.
636
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:34,530
The eldest son of a West Virginia bank
owner.
637
00:35:35,930 --> 00:35:37,030
Right over here.
638
00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:39,150
Actually, he was in high school.
639
00:35:40,190 --> 00:35:42,950
The eldest son of a West Virginia bank
guard.
640
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:45,730
Come on, man. Who doesn't polish their
resume?
641
00:35:47,470 --> 00:35:49,970
You know, I talked to some people at
your school, Marvin.
642
00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:52,150
And you're the guy.
643
00:35:53,630 --> 00:35:57,110
You're the teacher that people remember
for the rest of their days.
644
00:35:57,610 --> 00:35:59,950
Because you turn kids' lives around.
645
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,520
But not because of the history lessons
that you've taught.
646
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,900
It's because of the life lesson.
647
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:08,820
Don't do drugs. Don't get pregnant.
648
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:10,440
Don't join a gang.
649
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:16,100
Don't do anything that you would regret
for the rest of your life.
650
00:36:16,860 --> 00:36:17,920
I think we're done here.
651
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,198
Excuse me.
652
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,600
But you know the one thing I could not
figure out was how.
653
00:36:22,980 --> 00:36:27,340
How did you get into a locked room with
no key and no one seeing you? Then I
654
00:36:27,340 --> 00:36:30,180
remembered. Carl was the one who said.
655
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,520
That you suggested.
656
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,800
Taking Dennis' body out through the
basement window.
657
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560
Because that's how you got in, wasn't
it?
658
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,600
You have an active imagination,
detective. You should come and join our
659
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,439
class sometime.
660
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,860
There's one thing I want you to see
before you go.
661
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,320
Right here.
662
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,900
I've got the medical examiner's report.
663
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:51,920
As to the cause of death.
664
00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:57,060
You know what that means, don't you?
665
00:37:01,770 --> 00:37:02,770
Oh, my God.
666
00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:04,830
That's right.
667
00:37:12,790 --> 00:37:16,630
I don't know why I felt I had to have
those stupid things. I mean, a walkman,
668
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:17,630
for God's sake.
669
00:37:17,970 --> 00:37:22,530
Dennis is awful. He was always sneaking
around. You don't know Detective. He
670
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:23,730
really was an awful person.
671
00:37:24,150 --> 00:37:25,830
He said I had to give him money.
672
00:37:26,190 --> 00:37:27,550
Money I certainly didn't have.
673
00:37:28,780 --> 00:37:32,520
A couple of weeks later, he comes to me
and says that Greg had told him about
674
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,840
the accounting. He said that Greg was
going to pay him $600 later that night
675
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,040
keep some secret.
676
00:37:39,740 --> 00:37:43,580
He didn't tell me what Greg's secret
was, but he said he wanted the same from
677
00:37:43,580 --> 00:37:46,560
me. I didn't have $6, let alone $600.
678
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:52,080
But I said I would get it as long as he
kept his mouth shut in the chapter room.
679
00:37:53,220 --> 00:37:54,220
But he didn't.
680
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,000
Barely.
681
00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:17,740
As I took him back to the couch, he
682
00:38:17,740 --> 00:38:20,500
says that his price has just gone up.
683
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:35,640
When we left, I went upstairs into
Greg's room and found Greg's envelope
684
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:36,640
cash.
685
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,880
I got back into the chapter room through
the window like you said.
686
00:38:45,220 --> 00:38:49,300
So when I get there, Dennis is doing a
line of code. I give him the money and
687
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:50,780
says it's a good start.
688
00:38:51,220 --> 00:38:52,220
Now it's a thousand.
689
00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:57,220
What? He says he wants a thousand
dollars every month.
690
00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:02,050
And so when he bent over to do another
line of code, yeah, I lost my mind.
691
00:39:03,850 --> 00:39:09,990
But there was no pulse, no breath. And
so I just sat him back up on the couch.
692
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:14,770
Went back out the window. Where came in?
693
00:39:17,630 --> 00:39:18,650
You know the rest.
694
00:39:22,170 --> 00:39:25,190
But I tried to make up for it,
detective.
695
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,600
I found a job in a school near where he
grew up.
696
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,840
I like to think I made some kind of
difference.
697
00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:36,760
And I kept telling myself, you've paid
your debt.
698
00:39:40,820 --> 00:39:43,540
What do you think, Detective?
699
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:49,180
I don't know.
700
00:39:50,580 --> 00:39:51,900
You'll have to ask his parents.
701
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:03,700
Have a seat.
702
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:12,340
We have positively identified the victim
found at the Omega Kappa Rho fraternity
703
00:40:12,340 --> 00:40:13,340
house.
704
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,680
And your son, Dennis.
705
00:40:17,460 --> 00:40:18,460
Are you sure?
706
00:40:18,820 --> 00:40:22,440
Your interview with us as well as other
physical evidence makes us sure.
707
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:26,680
What happened?
708
00:40:27,100 --> 00:40:28,120
There was a fight.
709
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,320
A fight?
710
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:32,440
Over what?
711
00:40:33,260 --> 00:40:34,320
Nothing important.
712
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,740
Just one of those things.
713
00:40:37,020 --> 00:40:38,240
And they got scared.
714
00:40:38,580 --> 00:40:41,340
Why would anybody want to fight Dennis?
715
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,380
He was a good boy.
716
00:40:48,220 --> 00:40:50,320
How did our son die?
717
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,920
Was it painful?
718
00:40:53,460 --> 00:40:59,000
There are still tests that have to be
done. But as much as we can tell, Dennis
719
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,280
died quickly.
720
00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:02,740
And painlessly.
721
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:29,700
I chose the military because of my
family.
722
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:31,440
I mean, my brother was in.
723
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:33,220
My uncle was a lifer.
724
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,360
And I guess I was just afraid that I
wouldn't fit in in college.
725
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,020
I was afraid, too.
726
00:41:42,780 --> 00:41:43,780
It's terrifying.
727
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:48,300
Not nearly as terrifying as being shot
at in Kuwait.
728
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,340
North Carolina, huh?
729
00:41:55,180 --> 00:41:56,180
Yeah.
730
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,260
That's nice and all, but I'm afraid you
don't really know poor, because we were
731
00:42:00,260 --> 00:42:02,520
so poor, we couldn't afford the measles.
732
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,100
Well, we were so poor, all we ate was
jam sandwiches.
733
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,560
Two pieces of bread, jammed together.
734
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,200
You know that's my joke.
735
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:21,520
His son really wasn't a good boy, was
he?
736
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,860
No, but they don't need to know that.
737
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:27,350
All the truth about how he died.
738
00:42:28,030 --> 00:42:33,010
I mean, Dennis may have been a nasty
blackmailing creep, but he did not
739
00:42:33,010 --> 00:42:34,290
to die like that.
740
00:42:35,370 --> 00:42:41,610
The medical examiners report as to the
cause of death.
741
00:42:49,250 --> 00:42:50,990
You know what that means, don't you?
742
00:42:53,530 --> 00:42:54,530
My God.
743
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,540
You nasty!
744
00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:07,540
Get like that!
745
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,000
Wait!
746
00:43:49,070 --> 00:43:50,070
Thank you.
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