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Well, we have The Mad Foxes now.
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What to say about this one?
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I love this film. I didn't see it for a
long, long time. I think I only saw it
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about five years ago.
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And you know how you think maybe you've
squeezed the last drops out of a
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particular period of film. You think,
OK, I know my Spanish horror now.
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I'm probably not going to be surprised
by any really major revelations or
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shockers, you know.
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This is extraordinary. It's one of
the...
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It's one of the funniest and strangest
films from that period that I've seen.
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Strange on so many levels. Like for a
start, it's about the gayest
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film I think I've ever seen.
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And more, please.
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Not only have you got a biker gang who
are as homoerotic as anything from
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Kenneth Anger, the hero gets beaten up
by them and phones a karate club to call
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for some help to battle with the bikers.
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Gang of bastard hoodlums.
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I know where to find them.
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And you want us to help you, is that it?
Yeah, that's it. Would you?
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Of course.
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And the karate club are as gay as any
karate club I've ever seen.
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Mishima ought to be running the place,
you know, it's just incredible.
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Come on, gang!
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Let's teach these guns a good lesson!
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I don't know if there was any gay
involvement behind the camera at all. I
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I'd speculate, at a guess, you know,
gaydar tweaking.
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Yes, I would imagine there must be some,
surely, surely.
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Because... I don't know if my sides can
take it if there isn't, because it
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becomes even funnier if there isn't.
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If it's made by somebody with a gay
sensibility, then it's a great, fun
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exploitation film. If it's made by
somebody who's straight down the line
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heterosexual, then it's just...
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Ten times funnier. Although this is a
wonderful film with tons of quotable
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dialogue and lots and lots of sex and
violence, that's only in its uncut form.
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Sadly, the version, this version, which
is released in this country on video,
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has a lot of that cut out and it was a
BBFCX version.
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This is one of those instances where I
would strongly recommend that you watch
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the uncut version and don't go anywhere
near this version because too much is
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missing.
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This is a movie that its opening gambit
is to show you the old chestnut of the
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biker gang that cut off a guy's prick
and shove it down his throat.
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If you're going to show that, you need
to see it. You can't hint at it, can
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What shall I do?
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Cut it off.
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No, no, no, no!
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So it's the kind of thing that this film
does all the way through. There are
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violent moments in this film, like old
ladies in wheelchairs getting shotgun
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blasts to the head.
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It's got the kind of plotting where
instead of actually coming up with a
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narrative structure, you just basically
say, Right, OK, I need to get some more
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victims in. Where are we going to get
them from? So the hero literally, en
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to somewhere important, stops off and
picks up a hitchhiker for no other
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than just we need another girl in the
story.
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Would you mind giving me a lip? I'm
going that way.
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The lip has been written by somebody who
has a complete memory wipe every ten
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minutes. You could join it at any point
in the film and you won't lose anything,
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you won't misunderstand anything,
because it's always restarting.
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And then if the writer gets into
difficulty, for instance, when the hero
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trying to track down the bikers and he
needs to work out where their secret
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is, he just pulls into a gas station and
says to the guy at the pump, I'm
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looking for this biker gang. And he
says, oh, sure, they live down the road,
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just as such and such. Yeah, everybody
knows their hideout.
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Just follow the road straight forward
until you cross three bridges, then turn
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to the right at the first street you
find.
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Will they be there? Yeah. You sure those
are the ones? Those hoodlums are
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unmistakable with their helmets and
dirty hair.
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So there's no attempt at plotting, just
convenience is the name of the game.
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But you don't care, it doesn't really
matter, because what the film is really
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about is some guy having a grenade
tossed into the toilet whilst he's on
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and getting blown up ass first.
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And also imported from some of the
Franco films, music as well.
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There are musical cues from a lot of the
films that Franco made for Dietrich,
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like Voodoo Passion.
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So there is a lot of overlap, and there
are locations which you might recognise.
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If you know Jack the Ripper by Jess
Franco, you'll see an interior which is
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shared with that film as well. So even
though most of the film was shot on
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location in Barcelona, a lot of the
interiors were shot at Irwin Dietrich
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Studios in Switzerland, in Zurich.
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As far as trying to understand why a
film that was so heavily cut ended up on
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the Section 3 list, well, maybe this is
one instance of the marketing people
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getting it wrong, thinking that by
putting on dire warnings about... uh
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an extremely violent film which could
seriously disturb you that they thought
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that that would help to sell a film
which had essentially been cut to pieces
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um maybe instead all it did was attract
the attention of the censors it's worth
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mentioning as well that on top of the
music borrowed from the jess franco
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dietrich productions um it does kick off
with uh with a piece of music by
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croakers
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Given the homoerotic quality of the film
in general, I can't help feeling that
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they missed a trick and really they
should have got Judas Priest.
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Comrade, tonight we've come here to
farewell a friend. A friend whom we will
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forget ever.
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I swear it!
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So here's a question for you. What was
the first film rated G for violence in
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America?
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Give up?
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Well, it's Mark of the Devil, directed
by Michael Armstrong.
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Or was it?
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Mark of the Devil's original title in
German was Witches Tortured Till the
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Comes. But it started off as a script
called The Witch Hunter, Dr Dracula.
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It was rather as if somebody had seen
Witchfinder General on Monday, written
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half a script, then seen a Dracula film
on Tuesday, and God knows what they've
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been on on Wednesday.
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Now, this was written by an ex -matinee
idol who was a very, very famous actor
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in Germany called Adrian Hoven. And he
went to Gloria Films and said, look, I
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want to make this movie.
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They took a look at it and said, well,
yeah, it's OK, but it doesn't really get
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there. And also, we don't want you to
direct. We want somebody else to do
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They chose Michael Armstrong, the
British director of Haunted House of
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because that had been a huge hit in
Germany.
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Haunted House had opened in Germany and
done very good business.
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And Adrian Hoven, who produced Mark of
the Devil, had originally wanted to make
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a film which he would have starred in,
written, directed and done everything.
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Adrian Hoven hated Michael Armstrong
coming on board.
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I am the witch finder in this town. Is
that clear?
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So I thought, well, what on earth am I
going to do with this?
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And as the starting point had been, at
least this witch hunting idea, I
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well, let me...
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go from there because they had a very
limited time which to write it michael
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armstrong agreed to do the film but when
he first read the script um he told me
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that it was like a hardcore version of
dracula with a few sort of witch hunters
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thrown in so he decided to rewrite it
entirely from scratch under the name
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sergio kastner now this of course didn't
sit well with adrian hoven who thought
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he'd written a masterpiece and this was
the reason why the filming was
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apparently an absolute nightmare
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Owen then decided he was going to act in
it as well.
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These dolls really can do devilish
things.
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And almost for the first day of
shooting, he'd be on set.
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And the cameraman also, Ernst Kalinka,
was a great personal friend of his. So
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that didn't help. I had a lot of enemy
in my lighting cameraman, who also
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speak English.
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I mean, Udo Keir, who's the lead actor
in it, used to tell me that there were
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screaming matches all the way through,
every single day.
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And it sort of carried on like that the
whole time.
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It was an absolute nightmare. I mean,
the crew was on Hoven's side, and here
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this upstart Englishman coming along and
taking over, who they saw as, like, a
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master of the art.
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Here, of course, was also...
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Not truthful about the movie. He always
told me that he never saw any of the
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violence being filmed But he's actually
in the frame and Michael Armstrong then
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told me that of course Udo saw
everything and he sort of like
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slightly from it when it was beginning
quite a controversial movie You see
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a lot of torture in this and according
to Armstrong It was actually filmed
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the real torture instruments in the
actual places where his fictional story
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supposedly set the
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Tongue -carrying scene.
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The tongue.
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All that cage and everything is
authentic.
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The thumb screws are authentic.
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It's horrible, because it's basically
just a vice.
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They just screwed it down, that was it.
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The voting machines, again, were all
authentic, the way they were done. Even
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the...
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the thing with Gabby Hooks when she's
actually stretched out and low down that
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way.
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I suppose for the crowd, they would come
up with showbiz -type variations.
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And so because of it, I thought, I want
to show this. I want to show exactly
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what horrendous kind of things are done
by God -fearing people in the name of
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God and the hypocrisy of it. And so
taking that as the principal theme.
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I started working on the script.
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What became interesting for me was the
idea of the local amateur witch hunter,
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who's really just doing it for his own
personal sexual ends, the albino figure
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in the movie. I swear he rapes women
before burning them.
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Yes, it's true.
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Look, look, look at his face.
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He is the devil.
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But what happens when the state takes
over?
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And particularly what happens when a
character comes in who is doing it in
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name of God, in the name of right.
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We must never weaken in performing God's
work. So I wanted to really show
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that whereas a one -off amateur is one
thing and bad enough, but once it
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official and state, then it is
horrendous.
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Michael Armstrong always told me the
worst sort of violence is the violence
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don't look away from.
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And that's the reason he made the scenes
very, very graphic, very cruel and very
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barbarous. I believe violence when
presented should be unpleasant for an
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audience. I don't think it's helpful
that one should be able to sit and enjoy
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it.
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But in his original script, it was going
to end supernaturally with an
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explanation that said, it's OK, it's
fine.
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But the producers decided to take that
off because they felt it was a bit
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The ending that never was, or the ending
that was but never actually ended up in
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the film, what happened was that after
Vanessa
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has come across Christine's dead body,
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The film, it was then going to go to a
series of dissolves.
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And it was going to dissolve where he
was then in her arms in the graveyard.
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And then hands suddenly came out, were
trying to grab him.
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And the graveyard came alive, all graves
opened.
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And the Jews were supposed to be the
victims of the torture, all coming up to
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take Christian with them. He was in her
mind, obviously, by this time.
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um dreamlike nightmarish uh idea of her
trying to cling on to him screaming
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he's mine he's mine you have no right to
him he's mine he's mine uh which was
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the close of the film as he was
gradually taken away and it ended on her
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screaming that and here is the vomit
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bag that you were given on the way in
just in case some of the horrific scenes
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you saw made you want to throw up
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The vomit bag, yes.
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And I've actually got one of these, a
friend of mine sent me one, empty, from
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America when they first launched it. I
think it's a wonderful idea, absolutely.
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No home should be without one.
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In fact, James Furman used to use this
movie, or sections of it, in his
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lectures. in the 70s for why censorship
uh should be around i mean i went to see
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one particular lecture by him where he
actually used the first 20 minutes of
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this and said look this is the reason
why these films have to be cut it's so
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disgusting and of course all the more
reason for me actually wanting to see it
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and we could in the 80s with this one
james firmer made sure this was always
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rejected by the bbfc but here it was
completely uncut one of the reasons why
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became the focus of attention
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Mark of the devil.
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It's your sacred duty to tell us the
truth.
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In Germany, it had opened and been a
huge success, but there'd been no
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censorship problems.
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The first indication of this was when I
was told about the reactions in Cannes,
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where I gather that year it was totally
the scandal movie with everybody talking
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about Mark of the devil.
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And the...
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A British company, New Realm, were going
to distribute it here, were making
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plans to open it very big, and they
couldn't get it through the centre at
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And that's really when I think I first
became aware of the real problems with
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it. I hadn't known about it until then.
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I think also because England was the
only country that was really...
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acting so ridiculously.
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And then, of course, it opened in
America, which was huge in America.
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And I was aware of the success of the
film, the commercial success of the
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and the fight and the struggle to try
and get it shown in England.
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And even to this day, it's still cut, I
gather.
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I mean, another reason why it was
frowned upon by censors worldwide is
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the violence actually intercut with the
sex scenes.
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This was always a no -no for most censor
boards.
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Nevertheless, it was a number one film
in Germany.
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Interestingly enough, you can't see it
there now because it's banned, and there
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was indeed a Mark of the Devil Part II
directed by Hovind, so he did finally
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his way.
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I'd love to know the truth behind this
movie.
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I've heard three sides of the same
story, and they've all been different. I
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would love to know what actually really
did happen on this film set, but so far,
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no -one's ever told me the truth.
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And now the only... The ghost will
descend on you in the shape of lovely
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doves. Nice rooster.
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Go on, run.
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Heart of the devil.
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It's your sacred duty to tell us the
truth.
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Name just one of the accomplices and the
executioner will stop the torture.
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Confess, confess that you've been guilty
of witchcraft.
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We must not let her die yet.
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I want confession, not corpses.
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When you asked me three years ago to
become my pupil, I warned you not to see
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idol in me.
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On the difficult path we are going to go
together, I said.
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Many innocent people are going to die. I
said that to you. I remember the day.
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Stop that witch!
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Mark of the devil.
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Are you afraid?
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Is that clear?
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Tear up my tongue, but before you do,
I'll make them laugh. I'll tell them you
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rape women, you burn innocent people,
that you kill for money, that you're
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impotent.
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Be happy.
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You mustn't say things like that.
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Why?
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So beautiful, isn't it?
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My lord, she made a pact with the devil
in the shape of a man. And after, she
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let the devil fornicate with her.
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Making the men impotent.
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This Vanessa, for example.
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She's falsely accused.
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Don't become soft.
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She's a witch. A beautiful girl, I grant
you, but a witch. She will confess.
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The prisoner has been sentenced to have
his head cut off according to the law of
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the land. It has also been decreed that
all his earthly possessions be delivered
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to the church for safekeeping until
disposed of by the Lord Bishop.
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In Europe, between the 15th and 19th
centuries, it is estimated nearly 8
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people were convicted of heresy and
executed by fanatical witch hunters in
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to save their souls.
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In front of death.
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thank you for your mercy for having me
freed from the terrible agony
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of torture.
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Which?
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Which? Which?
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Which?
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George
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Romero's
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favourite film and the one he thinks is
the best directed is martin on hello
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video um 29 .95 look at the price of
this can you believe we actually pay
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amount of money for these things
especially with quotes saying how
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gruesome it is aren't attributed to
anybody which is of course a typical
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trick from the time this is the first
production of george's with richard
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rubinstein who would go on to do many
many movies and it was based on um a
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newspaper story that he saw about a
serial killer drinking people's blood
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a goblet. And he thought this is a
really interesting way of exploring
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in a contemporary context.
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Martin, another kind of terror.
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So that's why you get lead actor John
Ampliss.
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Is he a vampire?
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Isn't he? You don't really know. And
it's that ambiguity that a lot of
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took note of at the time, because this
is a superbly made movie. And a lot of
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the flashbacks, while he's indulging in
his little syringe theatrics.
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were in black and white because of the
gothic universal flavor that george
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wanted to bring to it in fact there was
an original plan to shoot the whole film
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in black and white but of course back
then as of now that didn't seem like a
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very good commercial prospect martin
another kind of terror i would like to
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like everyone else john amplis was
chosen by romero when he saw him in a
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where he played a christian persecuted
by romans and he felt that if he could
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that well and pull it off, he could
certainly pull off what is about
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versus reality, really, with a bit of
the whole... What did George call it? He
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called it the curse of Nosferatu. He
never mentioned vampires.
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Nosferatu.
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Nosferatu. I actually met George on
Martin for the very first time, and he
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very erudite, very, very, you know, keen
to put a cross.
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uh what he felt with this subtext in
this movie and it is very graphic one of
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the reasons why obviously people thought
that it was on the video nasties list
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this was tom savini's very first
collaboration with romero hey but i'm a
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mechanic i should be fixing cars what am
i doing here and i think they got on so
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well that it led to their previous work
together um All in all, I think this is
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a pretty amazing film.
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I'm glad it was on the video analysis.
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It probably meant more people actually
got to see it.
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I mean, three things to note about this
movie that you probably don't know.
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Although it was made in 1977, investors
didn't break even with the movie until
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1983. When it was shown in Italy, of
course, it actually had a Goblin score
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it was recut to that.
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And Christine Forrest, who's one of the
stars of the movie, ended up being Mrs
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George Romero just after.
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My name is Martin.
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I'm 84 years old.
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People think I'm crazy when I tell them
how old I am.
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I'd like to be normal.
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I just have a sickness.
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The only way I can survive is by
drinking blood.
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It's not easy living the way I do.
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I have to be careful all the time.
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But I'm pretty good at it.
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I think as I get older, I get better.
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I haven't been caught yet.
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Martin, another kind of terror.
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See, people don't understand what's
wrong.
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They think that I'm a monster. They
think I'm a vampire.
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People don't realize that those things
they see in the movies are not real.
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I don't have a whole lot of women.
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It's nice to watch them.
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I watch them a lot all the time. I have
to.
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To be sure that nothing goes wrong.
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I follow them. I plan.
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I'm very careful.
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I have needles now.
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I can use them.
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I can put them to sleep.
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And it doesn't hurt.
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Martin.
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Another... Kind of terror.
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I would like to be like everyone else.
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I have to do things that I don't
necessarily like to do.
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I want to stay alive.
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I do need blood.
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From the director of Night of the Living
Dead.
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Massacre Mansion, also released as
Mansion of the Doomed. Mansion of the
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And probably filmed as The Eyes of Dr.
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Chaney. Well, frankly, it's a remake of
Les Yeux Sans Visage, except it's the
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other way round. It's not Eyes Without a
Face, it's The Face Without Eyes.
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As in Les Yeux Sans Visage, our mad
doctor has stupidly crashed his car and
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injured his daughter, but he's blinded
her.
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However, him being a genius eye surgeon,
he finds a way of transplanting the
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eyes of unwilling living donors into her
head.
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However, they don't last long, so he
keeps doing it. And the basement just
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up with eyeless and fairly annoyed
people who, in the end, do what mutants
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always do in films like this and get
their horribly ironic revenge.
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It's kind of a fun picture in a way.
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The director is Michael Pataki, who was
best known as an actor. I think he's
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terrific in Grave of the Vampire, where
he plays the vampire. He's also kind of
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fun in Zoltan Hound of Dracula, the last
descendant of Dracula.
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But not, we have to say, much of a
director. It's a bit of a plod.
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It's one of the early productions from
Charles Band's stable.
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So it's sort of a...
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you know, a foundation stone of his mini
-exploitation empire, which has lasted
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several decades since. I'm surprised
he's not remade it or made 15 sequels to
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it. Like everything else, he's had his
name on.
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It's kind of a cool cast for a, you
know, a frankly rubbish exploitation
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Richard Basehart, who plays Dr.
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Len Chaney, to homage horror films of
previous era, he started out as a really
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great, intense...
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American character actor in film noir.
He made a great movie called 14 Hours
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about a guy standing on a ledge.
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And then he was married for a while to
Valentina Cortese, the Italian actress,
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and went to Rome and he appeared in
Fellini movies.
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And then somehow after that, he ended up
on television doing Voyage to the
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Bottom of the Sea for endless years,
which I think took a bit of the gloss
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him as a movie star.
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He did appear in major motion pictures
afterwards. He's in The Satan Bug, for
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instance, as a mad scientist in that as
well. But he didn't get the kind of
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leading roles his talent deserved.
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And in this little film, he's really
trying, he's really putting out, he's
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for the pathos of this stupid role,
which is badly written and makes no
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But he's really working hard at it.
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Gloria Graham plays the Alida Valley
role of the housekeeper who's kind of in
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love with him and enables all the
horrible stuff to go on.
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Get rid of those people, then.
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How would you suggest that we do that,
Catherine?
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Kill them. She also is a great faded
beauty from the wonderful 1950s
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She made a couple of other...
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horror exploitation movies at the time.
Blood and Lace, she's pretty good in.
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Here, I think she's fun. I think she,
you know, brings her A -game to it.
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And the, almost by default, the young
hero is Lance Henriksen, who must have
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longest filmography of any exploitation
veteran going.
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And he's been in...
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almost, I would imagine, well over 100
pictures by now. This is one of his
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credits. It's odd seeing a young Lance
Henriksen.
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Dr Cheney, at the risk of compounding
your displeasure with me, some of us
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still like to get your opinion.
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Dr Buran of Dublin and his theory
regarding eye transplants.
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It's also unfortunate because...
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One of the reasons people hire Lance
Henriksen is he's got these great eyes.
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They photograph really well on screen.
He's got this kind of fanatic gleam.
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And of course, most of this film, he's
playing with his eyes bandaged because
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he's had them ripped out and put into
somebody else's face.
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Yeah, that was very, very ironic.
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Which limits his ability to act down
there in the basement. However, he gets
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own back at the end.
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They told us death was the ultimate
horror.
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They were wrong.
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Yet who would have predicted that
dreadful day how far
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I might have to go?
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I'll see you in hell.
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I don't care.
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The only thing you...
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Better discover is a way to get rid of
those people.
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Wait a minute. This isn't the way to
Disneyland. You're heading toward the
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ocean. Catherine, no more!
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Kill them.
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Daddy, I love you.
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That's most of us have my intent.
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00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,900
Oh, please, people. Let me go. Let me
go.
431
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:14,300
Some you'll feel.
432
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,460
You'll feel Mansion of the Doomed.
433
00:33:40,750 --> 00:33:42,690
top 10 means in this context.
434
00:33:42,910 --> 00:33:48,610
I mean, was it like number 10 in
Variety's list of director video
435
00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:50,930
couldn't get a proper theatrical
release? Who knows?
436
00:33:51,650 --> 00:33:55,790
Are you brave enough to enter the
mausoleums?
437
00:33:58,590 --> 00:34:04,230
This is what you'll remember from
Mausoleum, is Bobby Brise, who was sort
438
00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:08,730
early screen queen, even before Linnea
Quigley.
439
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:14,800
We seem to court, like, the horror
fanzines.
440
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:19,980
Forrest J. Ackerman, who's in her other
film, Evil Spawn, seemed to build her up
441
00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:26,400
as sort of a minor horror celebrity,
presumably in the hope that she'd go on
442
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,199
be as big a star as, ooh, Florence
Marley.
443
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,480
That, of course, didn't happen.
444
00:34:34,989 --> 00:34:39,389
She stuck around, she made one other
film, Evil Swarm, which is a sort of
445
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:44,489
of The Watchwoman, and then just did
cameos in sort of Fred Olin Ray -type
446
00:34:44,489 --> 00:34:45,489
horror pictures.
447
00:34:46,270 --> 00:34:51,989
Truth be told, she wasn't really that
well -suited to horror. She was a big,
448
00:34:51,989 --> 00:34:53,830
buxom, bubbly California blonde.
449
00:34:54,170 --> 00:34:57,830
Her credits listed here are things like
The Fall Guy and Charlie's Angels.
450
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:59,250
You OK?
451
00:35:00,670 --> 00:35:01,670
Mm -hm.
452
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,200
I think to be a horror star, you kind of
have to have a sort of darker
453
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,300
personality, be a sort of Barbara Steele
-type character.
454
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:12,620
She gave her soul to the evil force in
the mausoleum.
455
00:35:12,940 --> 00:35:14,100
What's the matter, Susan?
456
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:22,040
This film seems to be entirely built
around the talents of Bobby Brzee.
457
00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:24,900
You didn't know I existed!
458
00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:30,580
Which is odd, because she's not much of
an actress, either.
459
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,940
It does have the scene where her breasts
turn into individual monsters with
460
00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:43,340
fangs and chew on the chest
461
00:35:43,340 --> 00:35:50,200
of her leading man, Roger Gortner, the
former evangelist and the great
462
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,480
star of Star Crash and Food of the Gods.
463
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:57,200
And that's kind of like the big ticket
in this film is that sequence, is the
464
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,620
fanged nipples.
465
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,240
And I have to say, it's not even that
well done. It's a John Buechler effect.
466
00:36:06,340 --> 00:36:11,160
And it's the sort of thing that Italian
movies like Demons would have done in a
467
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,160
much more gross and disturbing way.
468
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:19,320
But it's so conceptually weird that it
does kind of lodge in your memory.
469
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,480
However, it obliterates everything else
about the film, which is the old one
470
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,480
about the...
471
00:36:24,750 --> 00:36:29,610
The woman who's doomed to be possessed
by an evil witch and will then slaughter
472
00:36:29,610 --> 00:36:31,770
everybody else in the film to get
revenge.
473
00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:38,390
It's also one of those movies where
anagrams and palindromes come into play.
474
00:36:38,490 --> 00:36:43,110
It's about the nomad family and it takes
forever for somebody to work out that
475
00:36:43,110 --> 00:36:44,550
that's demon spelt backwards.
476
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:51,380
And there's a big sort of... you know,
crashing revelation built around that.
477
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:58,360
It's kind of fun. But, you know, as
478
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:03,700
mausoleum -based horror movies go, it's
not Phantasm. It's not even One Dark
479
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:09,040
Night. It's your third most important
mausoleum -based horror film of the
480
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:14,700
1980s. If that's enough to make you want
to see it, and frankly, it would be
481
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,300
enough to make me want to see it.
482
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,740
then you probably need to track it down
instantly.
483
00:37:23,460 --> 00:37:25,220
Was it a broken dream?
484
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,600
An unfinished memory?
485
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:32,740
What terrible secret drew Susan to the
mausoleum?
486
00:37:52,330 --> 00:37:54,830
I didn't mean to scare you, Mrs. Farrow.
487
00:37:58,310 --> 00:38:05,150
She gave her
488
00:38:05,150 --> 00:38:09,790
soul to the evil force in the mausoleum.
What's the matter, Susan?
489
00:38:13,050 --> 00:38:15,190
What cursed things?
490
00:38:17,270 --> 00:38:18,970
Oh, my God!
491
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,920
Now, the secret haunts her, and she
cannot control the power.
492
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:34,940
There's some strange shit going on in
this house.
493
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,740
What are you talking about? What's wrong
with my wife? She's not your wife.
494
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,590
The woman you're living with... Looks
like Susan. She looks exactly like your
495
00:38:51,590 --> 00:38:56,510
wife, but she's not your wife. She lives
in horror as she tries to escape the
496
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:57,810
demon she has become.
497
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:09,310
Obviously, we're not going to be able to
confine her. What do you suggest?
498
00:39:09,610 --> 00:39:11,930
Go to the mausoleum tonight.
499
00:39:13,330 --> 00:39:18,370
A new dimension in fright. An experience
of untold terror.
500
00:39:24,650 --> 00:39:27,430
I am going to finish what your father
died trying to do.
501
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:32,390
Are you brave enough to enter the
mausoleums?
502
00:39:45,870 --> 00:39:50,090
Well, Don Russo's Midnight is a very low
-budget feature. It's made for about
503
00:39:50,090 --> 00:39:51,310
$70 ,000 or something.
504
00:39:51,570 --> 00:39:54,190
It was probably made around about 1980
or didn't actually get released until
505
00:39:54,190 --> 00:39:55,190
about 1982.
506
00:39:55,610 --> 00:40:00,110
The book from the co -author of Night of
the Living Dead comes to life on the
507
00:40:00,110 --> 00:40:03,970
screen. Don't miss John Russo's
Midnight.
508
00:40:04,290 --> 00:40:07,370
It's a real mishmash. It's kind of like,
I think John Russo said he was
509
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:09,770
influenced by the success of Friday the
13th, like many filmmakers.
510
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:14,220
but this is kind of like um if you can
imagine a potpourri of horror movie not
511
00:40:14,220 --> 00:40:18,140
cliches exactly but you've got the
slasher movie you've got um the backward
512
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:24,160
satanic cult almighty lord satan we ask
thee to help us in the destruction of
513
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,600
our enemies as you have done for us
today.
514
00:40:26,940 --> 00:40:29,980
You've got not zombies exactly, but like
trying to resurrect the dead
515
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:34,500
grandmother or mother, I think it was.
The backdrop is basically a young girl
516
00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:39,660
called Nancy who escapes home after
being molested by Lawrence Tierney,
517
00:40:39,660 --> 00:40:43,660
famous Hollywood actor, who also went on
to appear in The Prowler. John Russo
518
00:40:43,660 --> 00:40:46,640
was involved famously with Night of the
Living Dead, which, of course, was a
519
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,500
trendsetter by actually having a black
protagonist.
520
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,960
And Midnight was one of the few kind of
fashion movies or films from the early
521
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,620
1980s which actually had black...
522
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:58,560
characters in it hey hank i won't mind
picking her up like we're just a couple
523
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:04,220
minutes too late though huh yeah good
thing too obviously she's jailbait but
524
00:41:04,220 --> 00:41:07,600
there's also um two characters that
become the most flasherific i kind of
525
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:11,060
element for the film there's a black
pastor and his teenage daughter i'm
526
00:41:11,060 --> 00:41:14,680
reverend carrington pastor of the first
baptist church this is my daughter
527
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,620
sandra and in the moment where it's
really where the real nod to the slash
528
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:20,800
is they get chased by this huge fat
529
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:27,630
giggling overweight kind of um backwards
psycho with a machete um and he chases
530
00:41:27,630 --> 00:41:34,630
around the house laughing all the time
it's
531
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:37,850
kind of a strange kind of movie but it's
i mean i like it and also it's got
532
00:41:37,850 --> 00:41:42,350
probably one of the catchiest theme
tunes of all early 80s movies i mean
533
00:41:42,350 --> 00:41:44,290
it's it's bad but i love it
534
00:41:52,490 --> 00:41:53,970
Once you've heard it, you can't get it
out of your head.
535
00:41:59,270 --> 00:42:05,790
Midnight stars John
536
00:42:05,790 --> 00:42:07,150
Amplis. You're in luck.
537
00:42:07,590 --> 00:42:11,230
Who was in Romero's Martin. John talks
about the film, I think, in one of the
538
00:42:11,230 --> 00:42:15,530
DVD intros for when it was put out,
saying that he was a little bit off his
539
00:42:15,530 --> 00:42:18,130
when he did it, but he managed to hold
it all together.
540
00:42:20,149 --> 00:42:23,210
It's a great little fun movie. It's
amazing how much you can do for $70
541
00:42:24,430 --> 00:42:27,040
Some of the acting's a little bit... you
know, rough around the edges.
542
00:42:27,340 --> 00:42:31,520
But Russo said, I think some of the film
stock got damaged or there was
543
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,800
something wrong with it. So a lot of the
better takes he couldn't use, which is
544
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,780
why the film has a slightly strange feel
to it because they use some of the
545
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:41,660
takes that weren't quite as good. But it
gives the film a bit of a dog -eared
546
00:42:41,660 --> 00:42:45,280
charm, I think. Midnight's put out by
Intervision in the UK on video with a
547
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,360
slightly misleading kind of cover
because it showed this kind of zombie
548
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,560
from a kind of a chalice. And of course,
there wasn't actually a zombie in the
549
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,240
movie, but, you know, hey -ho sort of
misleading video.
550
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,000
covers a dime a dozen.
551
00:42:57,220 --> 00:43:00,100
And of course, the other thing, of
course, with the movie, it's got Tom
552
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,720
special effects, which, of course, is a
selling point. But actually, even if you
553
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:07,020
watch the uncut version, the special
effects aren't all that to write home
554
00:43:07,020 --> 00:43:10,540
about. There's a decapitation scene in
the film, which is quite graphic.
555
00:43:10,980 --> 00:43:15,820
But again, because it's such a low
-budgeted movie, it's not Savini's
556
00:43:15,820 --> 00:43:18,380
hour. It's not Rousseau's finest hour,
but it's a fun movie.
557
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,520
Tom is 19, Nancy 17, and Hank 21.
558
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:29,600
They had a good time for a while, but
now they're missing.
559
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:32,640
It all started as innocent fun.
560
00:43:32,860 --> 00:43:38,120
The van, the drinking, the turn -ons,
until they cross the county line.
561
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,880
They cross the line into a lonely
community where anything can happen,
562
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,260
anyone can disappear without a trace.
563
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:54,380
And now, from the pages of John Russo's
best -selling novel, the story becomes a
564
00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:56,240
motion picture, Midnight.
565
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:06,220
I thought I saw a shoe sticking out from
under that blanket.
566
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,180
Nah, he was just a big farmer with a
bundle.
567
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,400
Your mind's playing tricks on you, girl.
You're all shook up.
568
00:44:12,820 --> 00:44:17,340
Soon as we find a good campsite, we'll
smoke some of this good hash and loosen
569
00:44:17,340 --> 00:44:18,340
you up.
570
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Hold it there, fellas.
571
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,000
Don't you make any foolish moves.
572
00:44:23,260 --> 00:44:24,760
Keep your hands visible.
573
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,640
You reach for anything inside that bag
and I won't wait to see what you're
574
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:29,640
reaching for.
575
00:44:30,380 --> 00:44:31,380
I'll just shoot.
576
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,000
Maybe we'll drag them out in the woods
one at a time.
577
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:36,240
Question them separately.
578
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,560
Good idea.
579
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,960
What'd you do with my daughter?
580
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,040
Well, she might be right in front of
you.
581
00:45:24,940 --> 00:45:31,840
About a half a dozen people found dead
582
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,320
around here just in the past couple of
years since I came here to preach.
583
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,740
Some look like accidents, some obviously
murders.
584
00:45:43,740 --> 00:45:45,240
I'm looking on you, black woman.
585
00:45:45,580 --> 00:45:46,840
Which one of you owns this van?
586
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,078
I do.
587
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,300
Okay, take your six -pack, get in the
van, get out of town, now.
588
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:52,880
You heard the man.
589
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,580
Come on, let's go, let's go. We don't
need your counter out here.
590
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:56,840
Hank, move it.
591
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:58,380
Let's go.
592
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:01,400
They should have known better when they
came into town.
593
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,380
Every sign pointed to what could happen
there.
594
00:46:04,890 --> 00:46:06,890
Every indication told them to leave.
595
00:46:07,130 --> 00:46:12,750
Now, the wise guys in the bar, the
preacher's warning, and the sheriff who
596
00:46:12,750 --> 00:46:14,030
hate a way of life.
597
00:46:14,530 --> 00:46:16,150
Go. Get out of town.
598
00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:18,110
We don't want your kind here.
599
00:46:18,450 --> 00:46:19,550
But they stayed.
600
00:46:19,810 --> 00:46:22,550
They stayed, and it became too late to
leave.
601
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:26,210
Too late, as the clock approached
midnight.
602
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:36,220
Midnight. Now the book from the co
-author of Night of the Living Dead
603
00:46:36,220 --> 00:46:37,400
life on the screen.
604
00:46:38,020 --> 00:46:41,100
Don't miss John Russo's Midnight.
605
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,180
Here we have Naked Fist by Sergio
Santiago.
606
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:12,140
It's also known as Firecracker. It was
made back in 1981.
607
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,860
Firecracker. See Gillian Kessner.
608
00:47:30,190 --> 00:47:34,710
grand prize winner at the black belt
olympics he'll mix seduction with
609
00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:41,690
destruction in the screen's first erotic
kung fu classic the box art
610
00:47:41,690 --> 00:47:46,310
features the american one -seat poster
as released by Manson international and
611
00:47:46,310 --> 00:47:50,290
most of this company's other releases
also just use the posters it's basically
612
00:47:50,290 --> 00:47:54,490
remake of San Diego's earlier TNT
Jackson a blaxploitation movie but this
613
00:47:54,490 --> 00:47:58,690
around there's no blaxploitation a lot
of action and more nudity and stuff here
614
00:47:58,690 --> 00:48:03,050
we get Julian Kessner, who you might
recognise from War 4, who plays Susan
615
00:48:03,050 --> 00:48:07,630
Carter, a six -man black belt karate
champion and martial arts teacher, who
616
00:48:07,630 --> 00:48:10,510
heads to the Philippines to track down
her missing reporter sister.
617
00:48:10,910 --> 00:48:15,290
After the bar fight, she gets a few
locals on her side, including bartender
618
00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:19,810
Pete, and a kung fu expert called Ray.
619
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:25,970
With their help, she finds her sister's
camera, and when she gets the film
620
00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:28,010
developed, she finds pictures.
621
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,960
of a local hoodlum called Chuck Donner,
who works at a place called The Arena,
622
00:48:32,100 --> 00:48:35,780
which is a vicious martial arts fighting
club. It turns out that her sister was
623
00:48:35,780 --> 00:48:40,700
doing a story on the place. The club is
owned by Eric, another bruiser, and in
624
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:44,040
order to gain his touch, he has to prove
her fighting ability by getting up on
625
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,720
stage and fighting their local champ.
626
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:53,380
Strangely, Susan finds herself in an
ongoing sling with Chuck.
627
00:48:53,790 --> 00:48:56,670
From then on, she encounters numerous
thugs and must literally fight for her
628
00:48:56,670 --> 00:49:00,010
life in order to discover the reason for
her sister's disappearance.
629
00:49:01,650 --> 00:49:03,450
I was hoping this would not be
necessary.
630
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:06,070
I could scream and call the police, you
know.
631
00:49:06,730 --> 00:49:07,730
I am the police.
632
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:11,690
If you like trashy movies, then this one
really is well worth tracking down.
633
00:49:11,910 --> 00:49:12,930
It's a lot of fun.
634
00:49:13,130 --> 00:49:18,270
There's a hilarious fight scene where
our heroine is sort of chased through
635
00:49:18,270 --> 00:49:22,190
these alleyways and this factory and she
loses bits of clothing on the way.
636
00:49:22,780 --> 00:49:27,360
She ends up in a pair of skinny knickers
after losing her bra with a knife.
637
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,720
This was one of the additional scenes
Cormann had shot by a guy called Alan
638
00:49:32,720 --> 00:49:34,620
Holzman and it's a standout moment.
639
00:49:34,860 --> 00:49:39,060
Holzman of course went on to direct the
science fiction movie Forbidden World.
640
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,440
Oh, and if you recognise the soundtrack
from somewhere it's probably because it
641
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,920
was also used in Shogun Assassin.
642
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,580
I reckon it was probably put on the
section 3 list for the scene where her
643
00:49:48,580 --> 00:49:50,900
clothes are cut off with a knife because
that's...
644
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,820
You could probably say sexual violence
of some sort. That's the only thing I
645
00:49:54,820 --> 00:49:59,400
could see in it that would probably have
had the power to be, you know, worrying
646
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,400
a bit.
647
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:15,920
Naked fit.
648
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:18,880
A hundred luscious pounds of TNT.
649
00:50:43,310 --> 00:50:46,830
See Jillian Kessner, grand prize winner
at the Black Belt Olympics.
650
00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:51,530
She'll mix seduction with destruction in
the screen's first erotic kung fu
651
00:50:51,530 --> 00:50:52,530
classic.
652
00:51:29,610 --> 00:51:34,750
Remember, you've got a date to detonate
with Naked Biff. Watch her explode.
653
00:51:40,910 --> 00:51:43,730
Naked Biff. She'll blow you away.
654
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,220
The Nesting is one of those titles that
I'm not entirely sure what it means.
655
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:09,000
The film was, I think, made as phobia.
Probably had to change its title because
656
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,260
there was that John Huston movie called
Phobia that came out about the same
657
00:52:12,260 --> 00:52:17,280
time. Also, it's one of those things
where the heroine originally has
658
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,100
agoraphobia. She's afraid to leave the
house.
659
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:22,650
But that actually doesn't seem to have
anything to do with the particular
660
00:52:22,870 --> 00:52:28,030
which is a writer who discovers that the
house she's rented is a former brothel
661
00:52:28,030 --> 00:52:31,130
and the site of a massacre that there
are ghosts about.
662
00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:33,330
You are not going crazy.
663
00:52:33,570 --> 00:52:35,170
Then what the hell is it?
664
00:52:35,590 --> 00:52:42,050
It's when your dreams turn to nightmares
and your nightmares turn on you.
665
00:52:43,870 --> 00:52:47,190
It's an interesting minor ghost story.
666
00:52:47,690 --> 00:52:52,110
It's one of those pictures that uses
sort of interesting people in cameos.
667
00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:59,070
Gloria Graham is back in it. She had a
certain exploitation record in
668
00:52:59,070 --> 00:53:03,050
Massacre Mansion and Blood and Lace. And
she plays a ghost.
669
00:53:03,350 --> 00:53:09,850
John Carradine, who's like your step
down from Vincent Price as a horror
670
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:15,540
He'd been at it for so long. And in the
early 80s, with the sort of revival of
671
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:20,080
horror, he started getting a lot more
work. He's in things like The Howling
672
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,780
The House of the Long Shadows and The
Boogeyman.
673
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:25,640
And so he became a sort of horror name
again.
674
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:31,040
And I think this is actually one of his
best latter -day parts.
675
00:53:31,260 --> 00:53:36,520
So he gets some meat. Obviously, he's
not in good enough shape to be in lots
676
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:37,479
lots of scenes.
677
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,780
But what he does has a lot of impact.
678
00:53:40,570 --> 00:53:41,570
It's she.
679
00:53:41,970 --> 00:53:43,550
It's got to be.
680
00:53:45,150 --> 00:53:46,750
She's come back.
681
00:53:49,730 --> 00:53:52,410
As a story, it's rather ordinary.
682
00:53:52,770 --> 00:53:58,150
Armand Weston, the director, had made
some porn stuff previously under several
683
00:53:58,150 --> 00:54:02,770
names, and this seemed to be the movie
he thought would launch him into a
684
00:54:02,770 --> 00:54:06,330
respectable, above -ground career, which
he didn't.
685
00:54:06,570 --> 00:54:10,950
He didn't go on to make anything else at
all and died in 1988.
686
00:54:11,810 --> 00:54:16,990
He does a good, solid, competent job on
this, but no more.
687
00:54:17,310 --> 00:54:23,970
And the movie didn't really stand out
enough, set next to any one of a
688
00:54:23,970 --> 00:54:25,450
dozen other.
689
00:54:26,060 --> 00:54:30,160
people moving to a creaky old house and
scary stuff happen films it's not as
690
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:34,880
memorable as silent scream for instance
it's not as memorable as legend of hell
691
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,220
house it's just another one of these
haunted house pictures watchable enough
692
00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:47,020
an afternoon but nothing special fear
visits many places but
693
00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:48,940
this is where it lives
694
00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:57,890
You cannot escape the fear.
695
00:54:58,610 --> 00:55:01,330
You cannot forget the fear.
696
00:55:02,750 --> 00:55:09,570
You will not know until you've killed
the nesting.
697
00:55:10,290 --> 00:55:12,670
You are not going crazy.
698
00:55:12,990 --> 00:55:19,270
Then what the hell is it? It's when your
dreams turn to nightmares and your
699
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:21,470
nightmares turn on you.
700
00:55:24,010 --> 00:55:26,050
It goes beyond the supernatural.
701
00:55:27,450 --> 00:55:29,350
Beyond the psychological.
702
00:55:30,690 --> 00:55:32,790
Beyond the realm of reason.
703
00:55:37,150 --> 00:55:38,570
The nesting.
704
00:55:40,050 --> 00:55:41,530
The horror grows.
705
00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:43,870
The mystery builds.
706
00:55:45,290 --> 00:55:46,290
It's she.
707
00:55:47,030 --> 00:55:48,830
It's got to be.
708
00:55:49,230 --> 00:55:52,350
The madness infects everyone around you.
709
00:56:11,020 --> 00:56:13,700
Just you and it.
710
00:56:18,260 --> 00:56:23,880
The net thing. It's the terror that
hides inside your mind.
711
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:26,460
Coming soon.
712
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:46,180
So the next film we have is The New
Adventures of Snow White, and in America
713
00:56:46,180 --> 00:56:48,880
was released as Grimm's Fairy Tales for
Adults.
714
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,460
It's got a lot of different actresses
that people may find familiar.
715
00:56:52,820 --> 00:56:56,080
Eva Steyer, who was in three James Bond
films.
716
00:56:56,300 --> 00:57:01,780
It also has Gabby Fuchs from Mark of the
Devil, and it also has Marie Lillardal,
717
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:06,000
who played Eugenie in Eugenie, Her
Journey into Perversion by Jess Franco.
718
00:57:06,910 --> 00:57:11,230
It is a beautifully European looking
film and I think you can tell it has a
719
00:57:11,230 --> 00:57:14,570
certain homage to surrealism which may
come from the fact that the director was
720
00:57:14,570 --> 00:57:15,570
Czech.
721
00:57:17,470 --> 00:57:21,910
Essentially the film is a story of
Cinderella and Snow White merged
722
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:28,170
so it's all the most perverse and most
elegant examples of the events that take
723
00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:32,810
place in those and I say the most
perverse and elegant because they are
724
00:57:34,020 --> 00:57:38,420
For example, we don't get in the
Disneyfied versions of a lot of these
725
00:57:38,420 --> 00:57:43,440
gory scenes, which you do get in this
film when the stepsisters, for example,
726
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:47,300
cut the backs of their feet off to get
their shoes on. This we do see in this
727
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:48,800
film. But it's not a gory film.
728
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:53,260
It's not a violent film. It's a film
that revels in its absurdism.
729
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:59,120
Mirror, mirror on the wall, am I the
fairest one of all?
730
00:57:59,460 --> 00:58:00,460
My queen.
731
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,160
Thou art of beauty rare, but Snow
732
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:14,320
White living in the glen with the seven
little men is a thousand times more
733
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:19,440
fair. It's got amazing witches, amazing
wenches. It's got a lot of animals with
734
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,440
crowns on.
735
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:26,640
And there is a lot of interaction with
animals and furries and that kind of
736
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:32,740
wildlife sex, if you like, with a
very... naive kind of innocence and
737
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:37,840
strangeness. So you see women with
snakes crawling all over their bodies
738
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,240
the snakes have little crowns on their
heads, but it's not a phallic use of a
739
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,940
snake. And the relationship between the
bear and Snow White is quite formidable
740
00:58:47,940 --> 00:58:49,260
and quite funny.
741
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,240
What do you animals want from me? Don't
you know I'm Snow White? You're Snow
742
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,660
White and I'm an enchanted prince. Save
me. Everybody's sexuality in this film
743
00:58:57,660 --> 00:59:02,000
has got its own special direction and a
lot of the time everyone's scared of
744
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,320
everyone else because they're all a bit
too randy.
745
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:10,020
Fascinating. It is certainly an eyebrow
-raising film and I think that if one
746
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:15,300
takes it as it's meant to be, which is
in a jubilant, naive kind of way, even
747
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:18,840
the sexuality becomes quite innocent and
quite playful.
748
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,760
The one... thing that I found a little
bit iffy about the film, it's a West
749
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:27,580
German film and the ugly stepsisters,
obviously because it's meant to be
750
00:59:27,580 --> 00:59:32,240
titillating, they can't be ugly, but
they have been made with the assistance
751
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:38,120
very dark wigs and very dark eyebrows to
be very, very southern Italian looking
752
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:45,000
and so there is certainly a sense in
this film that the Aryan is the beauty
753
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:49,400
according to this kind of ideology from
the south of Europe.
754
00:59:50,090 --> 00:59:56,130
And I thought that, you know, that gave
a little tinge of iffiness about the
755
00:59:56,130 --> 00:59:57,130
film.
756
00:59:57,210 --> 01:00:01,750
The only reason I can imagine that the
film was attempted to be put on the list
757
01:00:01,750 --> 01:00:07,690
is because it does really take, you
know, things that should be sacred and
758
01:00:07,690 --> 01:00:12,830
have been Disneyfied. And it shows them
for what they are, which is perverse
759
01:00:12,830 --> 01:00:18,470
explorations of burgeoning sexuality in
iconic young figures.
760
01:00:25,060 --> 01:00:28,980
It doesn't actually go that far from the
fairy tales themselves, so I think that
761
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:34,460
its adherence to the perversion in fairy
tales is possibly a reminder of the
762
01:00:34,460 --> 01:00:38,500
original nature of fairy tales before
the Disneyfication of them. Perhaps that
763
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:43,640
is what is the thing that we find quite
difficult to deal with, not simply the
764
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,700
issuing of sexuality from what is meant
to be for the realm of children, but the
765
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:50,649
fact that...
766
01:00:50,650 --> 01:00:55,530
already these children's stories were
quite perverse in themselves the cover
767
01:00:55,530 --> 01:01:00,890
clearly adult but at the same time there
is a certain kind of cartoonism that
768
01:01:00,890 --> 01:01:04,350
you see in a lot of european countries
not not in britain but in european
769
01:01:04,350 --> 01:01:10,650
countries with the the funny jolly
either you know a dwarf or um
770
01:01:10,650 --> 01:01:17,460
just a very pathetic sort of skinny
scrawny guy in the throes of poking fun
771
01:01:17,460 --> 01:01:23,160
and in passion with the Amazonian kind
of big -breasted nymphs. And that is a
772
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:28,020
kind of European sense of humour that we
don't really have in Britain, that
773
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:34,880
coalescence of comedic, clown -like
character in a Fellini -esque
774
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,280
kind of way with the overtly sexualised
woman.
775
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:44,220
I don't think that the British are so
comfortable with the idea of laughing
776
01:01:44,220 --> 01:01:45,220
sex.
777
01:01:45,460 --> 01:01:51,720
cartoons and kids and so I would be very
interested to know of any
778
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:58,060
anecdotes of Sunday evening going to the
video shop with the kids and watching
779
01:01:58,060 --> 01:02:03,780
this and seeing what mum and dad would
say when the Queen says go and get her
780
01:02:03,780 --> 01:02:10,180
lady parts and cut them off for me once
upon a time there was a magical kingdom
781
01:02:13,130 --> 01:02:14,790
A land of fertile fields.
782
01:02:17,770 --> 01:02:19,050
And dark forests.
783
01:02:19,570 --> 01:02:22,130
And everyone was busy all the time.
784
01:02:24,310 --> 01:02:27,110
It was here that two brothers came one
day.
785
01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:29,650
With their fortune. To seek adventure.
786
01:02:30,050 --> 01:02:32,170
And it was here that lived Snow White.
787
01:02:33,650 --> 01:02:34,650
Cinderella.
788
01:02:34,990 --> 01:02:36,310
And Sleeping Beauty.
789
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:41,990
You know all about these lovely maidens.
790
01:02:42,570 --> 01:02:43,570
Or do you?
791
01:02:43,890 --> 01:02:45,450
Now it can be told.
792
01:02:46,570 --> 01:02:47,890
The true story.
793
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:51,690
Where men were men.
794
01:02:52,770 --> 01:02:54,210
And women were women.
795
01:02:55,610 --> 01:02:57,630
But they found the wicked queen.
796
01:02:57,950 --> 01:02:59,750
The evil stepsisters.
797
01:03:00,070 --> 01:03:02,770
A nice old devil. And the blue witch.
798
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:05,050
Grimm's Fairy Tales.
799
01:03:05,790 --> 01:03:06,790
For adults.
800
01:03:18,990 --> 01:03:22,950
So, Night of the Living Dead, it's
strange that it's even in this company,
801
01:03:23,030 --> 01:03:29,530
because it seems so elevated above the
entire rest of the genre. It's almost
802
01:03:29,530 --> 01:03:33,970
like all subsequent horror pictures owe
this huge debt to Night of the Living
803
01:03:33,970 --> 01:03:39,970
Dead. I wrote a whole book about the
influence of Night of the Living Dead on
804
01:03:39,970 --> 01:03:41,570
contemporary horror cinema.
805
01:03:42,270 --> 01:03:46,950
And yet, when you get back to it, one
is, of course, it's still...
806
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:53,440
a low budget black and white film that
is rough -hewn and a bit amateurish and
807
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:59,940
that was part of its shock welcome to a
night of total
808
01:03:59,940 --> 01:04:06,880
terror and you know it's uh it's older
than
809
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:13,220
most of the films. It's a film from the
mid -60s, not even the late 60s. It's
810
01:04:13,220 --> 01:04:18,800
the template of so much that came
afterwards that it's difficult to
811
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:23,240
shocking it was when it came out.
Although recently I...
812
01:04:23,550 --> 01:04:27,730
watched it again at the the ritzy cinema
in brixton with an audience of kids who
813
01:04:27,730 --> 01:04:32,310
hadn't seen it before and although you
could see that they were distanced from
814
01:04:32,310 --> 01:04:38,110
it in time and in technique uh and some
of the things about it seemed clumsy to
815
01:04:38,110 --> 01:04:42,470
them the ending still is a kick in the
teeth there are things about this movie
816
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:44,250
that go further than
817
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:49,860
most contemporary horror pictures than
the remakes and the imitations and the
818
01:04:49,860 --> 01:04:56,280
sequels and the spin -offs. It's where
we came in, in modern horror, and it's
819
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:59,760
still a film that we should regularly
watch again.
820
01:05:00,140 --> 01:05:01,860
Well, you used to really be scared here.
821
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,440
Johnny! You're still afraid.
822
01:05:06,060 --> 01:05:07,580
Stop it now, I mean it!
823
01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:13,900
They're coming to get you, Barbara.
824
01:05:14,750 --> 01:05:20,030
So it's odd in this context to see it as
just part of the product, just another
825
01:05:20,030 --> 01:05:24,170
popular video release of the early 80s.
But it was. I mean, it was a film that
826
01:05:24,170 --> 01:05:30,450
was around a lot, partly because of the
grey market rights issue that still
827
01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:32,110
dogs night the living dead.
828
01:05:33,110 --> 01:05:39,490
And it was just, it was another zombie
film. I don't know how many of the
829
01:05:39,490 --> 01:05:41,490
big hit...
830
01:05:42,180 --> 01:05:46,100
video movies of the 80s turned out to be
in black and white when you pop the
831
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:47,098
tape in.
832
01:05:47,100 --> 01:05:52,500
I wondered if some renters might have
been quite shocked by that.
833
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,520
Because, yeah, it's almost like that.
834
01:05:57,020 --> 01:06:01,340
I think it may be the last American film
to be made in black and white for
835
01:06:01,340 --> 01:06:02,340
budgetary reasons.
836
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:08,860
And things had so much changed by the
early 80s, where black and white wasn't
837
01:06:08,860 --> 01:06:14,220
cool yet. There was no sense that maybe
you might go out and make a black and
838
01:06:14,220 --> 01:06:18,940
white movie, although David Lynch had
just made Eraserhead, that this was
839
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:24,720
something that distanced it from your
usual run of video product.
840
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,060
But it's also possible to look at it and
say, yeah, it's just a really gruesome
841
01:06:28,060 --> 01:06:29,960
zombie movie with...
842
01:06:30,300 --> 01:06:36,300
actors you haven't seen before and won't
be seeing again, and lots of gut
843
01:06:36,300 --> 01:06:38,060
-munching and some pretty good suspense
stuff.
844
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:44,640
The fact that it then has this enormous
weight of critical importance bared on
845
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,620
top of it isn't the film's fault.
846
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:53,080
And I think that part of its lasting
success has been that fresh audiences,
847
01:06:53,220 --> 01:06:56,300
once they get past the sort of
shakiness...
848
01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:02,160
can still be shocked and upset by it.
And certainly the video rental kids of
849
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:09,140
early 80s were like the second or third
wave of fans of
850
01:07:09,140 --> 01:07:12,300
this movie who embraced it, who went
back and watched it over and over again,
851
01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:19,240
which I certainly did, and saw it as a
major classic, as one of our films, one
852
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:20,740
of the most important films of...
853
01:07:21,470 --> 01:07:22,470
our culture.
854
01:07:22,570 --> 01:07:27,290
An experience in shock, more shattering
than your strangest nightmare.
855
01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:33,270
Night of the living dead.
856
01:07:33,770 --> 01:07:38,130
It's nice seeing it as a maybe knock
down a peg or two to be here.
857
01:07:38,390 --> 01:07:44,910
There's something that there it is on
the rack between Charles Band's movies
858
01:07:44,910 --> 01:07:49,730
and the slasher pictures of the 80s as
just another good solid horror picture.
859
01:07:50,170 --> 01:07:55,330
And one of the reasons Night of the
Living Dead was a big video was that
860
01:07:55,330 --> 01:07:58,570
the Dead had just been a success, so it
got re -released off the back of that.
861
01:07:58,910 --> 01:08:04,010
In 1968, George Romero brought us Night
of the Living Dead.
862
01:08:04,290 --> 01:08:08,710
It became the classic horror film of its
time. There were various things that
863
01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:14,410
linked the two movies, including the
amazing box artwork of Tom Chantrell,
864
01:08:14,410 --> 01:08:17,330
everybody stole from the rental copies
and stuck up on the wall.
865
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:25,020
Welcome to a night of total terror.
866
01:08:31,700 --> 01:08:32,800
Night
867
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:39,760
of
868
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:45,939
the living dead. The dead who live on
living flesh.
869
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,520
The dead whose haunted souls hunt the
living.
870
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:57,220
The living whose bodies are the only
food for these ungodly creatures.
871
01:08:58,979 --> 01:08:59,979
What?
872
01:09:07,939 --> 01:09:11,479
Night of the living dead.
873
01:09:14,729 --> 01:09:16,590
A bizarre adventure in fear.
874
01:09:17,689 --> 01:09:22,970
An experience in shock. More shattering
than your strangest nightmare.
875
01:09:24,410 --> 01:09:29,069
Night of the living dead.
876
01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:34,330
A night with the dead who cannot die.
877
01:09:36,990 --> 01:09:40,130
A night of total terror.
878
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:57,300
Night Of the living dead
879
01:09:57,300 --> 01:10:08,880
Okay,
880
01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:13,140
so here's Night Beast by Don Dohler,
actually one of the earliest examples of
881
01:10:13,140 --> 01:10:16,750
director who came from the fan tradition
of horror Before he became a filmmaker,
882
01:10:16,930 --> 01:10:21,210
he had his own film magazine called
Cinemagic, and he was a devotee of the
883
01:10:21,210 --> 01:10:25,010
famous monsters of film land, wrote a
great deal about monster movies and was
884
01:10:25,010 --> 01:10:28,690
obviously very, very passionate about
monster movies, and made the move from
885
01:10:28,690 --> 01:10:32,450
interest in special effects and an
interest in other people's movies as a
886
01:10:32,450 --> 01:10:35,530
and a writer into making his own movies.
887
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:40,210
Seeing the movie that will change the
face of modern science fiction cinema,
888
01:10:40,590 --> 01:10:44,290
Night Beast, Terror From Beyond.
889
01:10:45,180 --> 01:10:50,320
Made, you know, for beer and cigarettes,
basically, in Baltimore, for just a
890
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,260
tiny amount of money, but with a great
deal of creativity and a lot of love for
891
01:10:54,260 --> 01:10:56,960
the genre. He's also somebody who
understands that if you're going to make
892
01:10:56,960 --> 01:11:00,180
monster movie, show the bloody thing.
Don't waste time.
893
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:04,400
Don't spend 45 minutes with people chit
-chatting away before you finally let
894
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,340
the thing peek its nose around the
corner of the camera.
895
01:11:06,660 --> 01:11:07,660
Show it.
896
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,480
And the great thing about Nightbeast is
that within...
897
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:19,700
Within two or three minutes, it's
attacking people, ripping people's guts
898
01:11:19,700 --> 01:11:23,280
and having laser gunfights with the
local constabulary. It's great.
899
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:32,280
For the first 20 minutes, it's monster,
monster, monster all the way.
900
01:11:32,740 --> 01:11:35,820
Now, this is something that I wish a lot
of monster movie makers would learn.
901
01:11:36,060 --> 01:11:40,020
It doesn't matter how cheap your monster
is. It doesn't matter how shabby or
902
01:11:40,020 --> 01:11:41,020
homemade it looks.
903
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,180
The worst thing you can do is hide it.
904
01:11:43,450 --> 01:11:44,590
Because everyone's come to see it.
905
01:11:45,130 --> 01:11:46,410
So, you know, why get coy?
906
01:11:47,090 --> 01:11:51,370
All the best monster movies, no matter
how tacky or unlikely their monsters
907
01:11:51,370 --> 01:11:53,150
look, are the ones that push it to the
front.
908
01:11:53,590 --> 01:11:57,330
And if you've got the balls to do that,
then you gain an awful lot of kudos and
909
01:11:57,330 --> 01:11:58,330
a lot of credit.
910
01:11:59,530 --> 01:12:03,510
And Dola, you know, God bless him, he
understood that. He really puts the
911
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:04,510
monsters out there.
912
01:12:06,090 --> 01:12:10,430
And as drama, the films are rudimentary.
Sheriff Cinder!
913
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:17,940
There's not a great deal of complexity.
914
01:12:18,180 --> 01:12:22,740
There's nothing to tax you. There's no
subplot or no subtext or anything to
915
01:12:22,740 --> 01:12:23,659
think about.
916
01:12:23,660 --> 01:12:25,540
Jesus, must have been lightning.
917
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:27,700
Hell, I ain't never seen lightning like
that before.
918
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,240
But if you love monster movies, he
delivers.
919
01:12:31,580 --> 01:12:32,960
He knows how to play the game.
920
01:12:35,300 --> 01:12:37,880
The monster itself, well...
921
01:12:38,710 --> 01:12:42,930
It might not have any movable parts, but
still, it looks great. It's got more
922
01:12:42,930 --> 01:12:46,590
teeth than it knows what to do with.
It's got these little piggy eyes that
923
01:12:46,590 --> 01:12:47,590
hilarious.
924
01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:50,250
The whole thing just looks fantastic.
925
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:55,290
The design is made by John Dodds, who,
probably at the peak of his skills,
926
01:12:55,370 --> 01:12:57,030
created the monsters in The Deadly
Spawn.
927
01:12:57,850 --> 01:12:59,030
Almost on a similar basis.
928
01:12:59,610 --> 01:13:02,610
Again, teeth everywhere. That was
obviously a thing with him.
929
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:07,810
It's got a lot of charm, considering
that it was made for Peanuts.
930
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,700
It functions very, very well as a fun
piece of work. If you're very familiar
931
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:16,800
with the films of John Waters, it's
amusing to see George Stover turn up in
932
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:17,438
of them.
933
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:19,360
That scum, you ought to lock him up.
934
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,900
He's always playing kind of concerned
local citizens in the Dola films.
935
01:13:24,140 --> 01:13:26,360
I just can't imagine who could do
something like this.
936
01:13:26,820 --> 01:13:29,900
He plays straight man as a character in
Female Trouble as well.
937
01:13:30,100 --> 01:13:32,040
The films were made in Baltimore in
Maryland.
938
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,320
So it's often amusing to think that...
939
01:13:35,530 --> 01:13:39,810
Don Dohler and John Waters in the 1970s,
in the late 1970s, were making their
940
01:13:39,810 --> 01:13:44,170
films kind of almost in the same little
bits of scrub woodland around the edge
941
01:13:44,170 --> 01:13:44,849
of Baltimore.
942
01:13:44,850 --> 01:13:48,710
You know, maybe just if you would pan
the camera to the right in one of Don
943
01:13:48,710 --> 01:13:51,990
Dohler's films, you'd see Divine, you
know, making out on a mattress, you
944
01:13:52,010 --> 01:13:53,010
in female trouble.
945
01:13:53,450 --> 01:13:56,450
Or, you know, if you kind of move in the
other direction during one of Waters'
946
01:13:56,550 --> 01:14:00,430
films, you'll see some giant infectoid
sort of rubber monster lurching around
947
01:14:00,430 --> 01:14:03,210
the trees because they're working at the
same time in the same place.
948
01:14:04,420 --> 01:14:06,440
But apart from that, very different
sensibilities.
949
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:11,800
I mean, obviously Waters has a satirical
and comic sensibility. And Don Dohler
950
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,080
is as straight as the day is long.
951
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:17,800
You know, there's irony doesn't exist in
Don Dohler's films.
952
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,340
You don't understand, Jack. I've got
this party for Governor Embry here this
953
01:14:21,340 --> 01:14:22,318
afternoon. Remember?
954
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:24,220
Election time, ass -kissing time.
955
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,980
Bert, I've got something running around
killing people.
956
01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:29,180
I mean, Night Beast...
957
01:14:29,290 --> 01:14:34,410
I suspect it ended up on the Section 3
list because within the first ten
958
01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:37,090
there is a fairly graphic
disembowelling.
959
01:14:42,610 --> 01:14:47,130
Again, I doubt seriously whether or not
the police watched the whole film. They
960
01:14:47,130 --> 01:14:49,710
probably just watched as far as the
first ten minutes and thought, OK,
961
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:50,710
all we need to know.
962
01:14:50,870 --> 01:14:54,530
Somebody gets loops of intestine pulled
out of their stomach by a monster.
963
01:14:56,790 --> 01:15:00,050
Never mind that the monster looked like
something from Doctor Who, that you
964
01:15:00,050 --> 01:15:04,290
couldn't possibly be offended by. How
could anybody be offended by Night
965
01:15:04,770 --> 01:15:09,130
But, you know, that's all they care
about is a bit of splatter, and that was
966
01:15:09,130 --> 01:15:10,130
enough.
967
01:15:10,510 --> 01:15:16,170
As far as sex is concerned, it very
rarely rears its head in Dohler's films.
968
01:15:16,170 --> 01:15:20,410
mean, in his first film, Alien Factor,
there's virtually no sexual element at
969
01:15:20,410 --> 01:15:23,470
all. Here, I think somebody's probably
had a little word in his ear and said,
970
01:15:23,550 --> 01:15:24,650
you know, Don...
971
01:15:25,490 --> 01:15:28,630
The films might distribute a little
better if you just include a little bit
972
01:15:28,630 --> 01:15:33,450
TNA. So there are a couple of nipples
visible here and there and a few of the
973
01:15:33,450 --> 01:15:34,450
girls take their tops off.
974
01:15:34,950 --> 01:15:38,170
But the thing is, it's a lot harder to
get your friends and neighbours to take
975
01:15:38,170 --> 01:15:41,030
their tops off in your film than it is
to get some girl from a casting agency
976
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:43,790
come and take her top off. And I think
that's why the Dohler films don't have
977
01:15:43,790 --> 01:15:44,790
sexual content.
978
01:15:44,850 --> 01:15:46,430
It's because he's making it with...
979
01:15:46,860 --> 01:15:50,200
The guy down the road that runs the
hardware store that he sees every day,
980
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:52,020
can't ask his daughter to take her top
off, can you?
981
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:58,400
So, you know, I suspect that's why
they're sexually a little repressed, you
982
01:15:58,400 --> 01:16:00,520
know, because it's just socially kind of
difficult.
983
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,840
From another galaxy, from another world,
984
01:16:08,060 --> 01:16:14,750
comes... The embodiment of
985
01:16:14,750 --> 01:16:16,650
fear. What the hell was that?
986
01:16:19,050 --> 01:16:20,050
Night Beast.
987
01:16:20,370 --> 01:16:21,970
Terror from beyond.
988
01:16:27,850 --> 01:16:31,210
A high -tech warrior from a distant
planet.
989
01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:36,250
A killing machine with a taste for human
flesh.
990
01:16:38,370 --> 01:16:42,430
A community abandoned in a code of
silence.
991
01:16:42,990 --> 01:16:46,370
Wicker never even called us a state.
They don't even know we have a bad
992
01:16:46,370 --> 01:16:47,370
situation here.
993
01:16:53,230 --> 01:16:54,350
A love affair.
994
01:16:54,670 --> 01:16:58,550
You know, you're a very attractive girl,
Lisa. Two people brought together by
995
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:59,790
the urgency of the moment.
996
01:17:00,190 --> 01:17:04,710
Two people torn apart by the savage fury
of Night Beast.
997
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,460
I'm sorry, Jeremy. There was nothing
that could be done. The most vicious
998
01:17:08,460 --> 01:17:12,960
creature to ever span the intergalactic
void has come to pay its respect.
999
01:17:20,040 --> 01:17:21,960
Jesus Christ!
1000
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:28,700
This is the story of how the little
people answer the big questions.
1001
01:17:39,820 --> 01:17:43,400
that will change the face of modern
science fiction cinema.
1002
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,360
Night Beast.
1003
01:17:47,740 --> 01:17:50,140
Terror from beyond.
1004
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:05,750
Nightmare City, put out by VTC in a cut
version.
1005
01:18:05,970 --> 01:18:09,430
Um, Zimberto Lenzi's also known as City
of the Walking Dead, and there's an
1006
01:18:09,430 --> 01:18:13,490
irony there, because neither are they
dead or are they walking. In fact, this
1007
01:18:13,490 --> 01:18:16,170
probably an inspiration. I'm sure they
probably wouldn't agree with this. This
1008
01:18:16,170 --> 01:18:17,410
is something like 28 Days Later.
1009
01:18:17,650 --> 01:18:22,650
The film was also put out, um, in an
even more cut version, um, on a double
1010
01:18:22,650 --> 01:18:26,590
with Alien Terror, um, and, um, again,
put out on VTC.
1011
01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:31,040
using the American artwork, which was
put out, I think that was the one -sheet
1012
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:33,080
artwork for City of the Walking Dead in
the US.
1013
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:38,020
And Bertolensi was obviously the famous
trash auteur who put his hand to loads
1014
01:18:38,020 --> 01:18:41,700
of different films, from Jali to police
thrillers to cannibal films.
1015
01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:45,700
And this was his zombie film, although,
again, he says this isn't a zombie film.
1016
01:18:45,740 --> 01:18:50,280
In fact, these aren't zombies. These are
radiated madmen and women. In other
1017
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:54,830
words... This individual and others like
him have been subjected to strong doses
1018
01:18:54,830 --> 01:18:58,770
of atomic radiation, which increased
their physical capacities beyond the
1019
01:18:58,990 --> 01:19:02,410
Actually, and of course, are they
zombies or are they vampires? Because
1020
01:19:02,410 --> 01:19:03,049
the other thing.
1021
01:19:03,050 --> 01:19:07,370
In the film, they don't chomp on guts
like many of the Italian gut munchers.
1022
01:19:07,370 --> 01:19:08,630
They actually drink blood.
1023
01:19:10,090 --> 01:19:11,130
I don't believe it.
1024
01:19:11,480 --> 01:19:14,660
It's got Hugo Stiglitz, if I'm
pronouncing that correctly. He was a
1025
01:19:14,660 --> 01:19:19,040
actor. Umberto Lenzi said that he wanted
to actually cast Franco Nera or Fabio
1026
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,000
Testi in the film. Now, it seems very
unlikely either Franco Nera or Fabio
1027
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,860
would have been in this film. Why me in
particular?
1028
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,700
He got Hugo instead, apparently for the
Mexican audiences who wanted to see this
1029
01:19:28,700 --> 01:19:34,900
film. He plays a TV reporter who gets
sent out to interview a famous scientist
1030
01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:40,970
who's coming into an unnamed city to
talk about a chemical spill or a...
1031
01:19:40,970 --> 01:19:45,450
accident it's never quite clear and what
happens in one of the greatest kind of
1032
01:19:45,450 --> 01:19:50,950
trash kind of moments in cinema is this
plane lands and out jump all these kind
1033
01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:56,730
of well monsters vampires zombies
whatever you want to call them they all
1034
01:19:56,730 --> 01:20:00,210
like they've all fallen got a bit drunk
and fall into a cow pat now again it's
1035
01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:03,950
probably not the best special effects
ever but again it really really works
1036
01:20:03,950 --> 01:20:05,770
these aren't low shuffling zombies
1037
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:12,390
This is basically a complete polar
opposite to something like Fulci's
1038
01:20:12,390 --> 01:20:16,050
movies, like Zombie Flesh Eaters or
Beyond, which is much more insular or
1039
01:20:16,050 --> 01:20:19,410
esoteric, I can guess. This is
essentially an action movie.
1040
01:20:23,940 --> 01:20:27,300
This is one of the greatest party
movies, in my opinion.
1041
01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:29,460
It's a huge amount of fun.
1042
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,680
Maybe one of the best lines in it, I
think it's Mel Ferrer, who says,
1043
01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:34,720
let's use Plan H.
1044
01:20:35,060 --> 01:20:36,780
We'll follow Emergency Plan H.
1045
01:20:37,160 --> 01:20:40,180
And if we can't use Plan H, if it gets
really bad, we'll go to Plan B.
1046
01:20:40,500 --> 01:20:43,600
And we'll keep Plan B in reserve in case
the situation gets out of hand.
1047
01:20:43,900 --> 01:20:47,700
And it's just bizarre, these kind of
bizarre things. But Umberto Lenzi, who I
1048
01:20:47,700 --> 01:20:51,580
haven't met Umberto, but he's famously a
little bit po -faced about his movies.
1049
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,700
Now, I can't believe he didn't make this
movie. a little bit of tongue -in
1050
01:20:54,700 --> 01:20:55,700
-cheek.
1051
01:20:55,980 --> 01:20:58,120
It's got some great moments, great gore
moments.
1052
01:20:59,660 --> 01:21:03,200
Probably, if it had come out in uncut
version, it probably would have been one
1053
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,420
of the bona fide video nasties, one of
something that would have attracted a
1054
01:21:06,420 --> 01:21:07,219
more attention.
1055
01:21:07,220 --> 01:21:11,680
And, of course, one of the standout
scenes is the scene when, if you
1056
01:21:11,780 --> 01:21:14,880
Top of the Pops from the 1970s, when
Pan's people were dancing, and if you
1057
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,360
imagine, suddenly, on the Top of the
Pops studio, a load of zombies burst in
1058
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,060
with machetes and start cutting off
press.
1059
01:21:22,060 --> 01:21:25,160
then you can see why this film might
have got the attention that it has.
1060
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:28,340
In reality, the film's far too silly to
be offensive.
1061
01:21:34,260 --> 01:21:37,340
Lindsay tries to go one further than
thought she would with some eye
1062
01:21:37,500 --> 01:21:42,120
where there's a very protracted scene
where a woman gets her eyeball cut out.
1063
01:21:42,220 --> 01:21:45,260
But what the film does do, and I think
what it succeeds in doing, is actually,
1064
01:21:45,300 --> 01:21:49,800
on what is quite a low budget, it's
actually got quite almost a pan...
1065
01:21:50,190 --> 01:21:54,170
pandemic feel to it and so much it goes
out you actually do have a city being
1066
01:21:54,170 --> 01:21:57,810
attacked rather than just a lot of
people holed up in a farmhouse it's far
1067
01:21:57,810 --> 01:22:02,690
expansive so you although it's kind of
very low low budget you do get like a
1068
01:22:02,690 --> 01:22:06,670
great scene in hospital where there's
doctors nurses being chased and of
1069
01:22:07,290 --> 01:22:10,030
All the time, all the nurses have their
blouses ripped off, and of course it's
1070
01:22:10,030 --> 01:22:12,070
an Italian zombie movie, so what else
would you expect?
1071
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:14,790
It's a great deal of fun, you know, it's
one of my favourite zombie movies.
1072
01:22:15,050 --> 01:22:18,250
And Nightmare City is a bit like, I
mean, the horror equivalent of Bobby
1073
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:19,450
stepping out of the shower in Dallas.
1074
01:22:19,970 --> 01:22:22,070
It's essentially, it was all a dream.
1075
01:22:26,290 --> 01:22:30,880
So Hugo wakes up and suddenly goes...
And then, so it's all happening again.
1076
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,120
goes off to meet the professor at the
airport, and it all starts again. The
1077
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,120
nightmare continues.
1078
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:40,720
So it's one of those great circular
endings, which I imagine would have, a
1079
01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,240
groan would have gone out from the
audience, possibly because they're going
1080
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:44,240
watch the whole thing again.
1081
01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:53,040
Top of the news this evening is
speculation concerning the real facts.
1082
01:22:53,610 --> 01:22:58,750
behind a Department of Health
announcement about a radioactive spill
1083
01:22:58,750 --> 01:23:01,510
have occurred yesterday at the state
nuclear plant.
1084
01:23:02,670 --> 01:23:07,310
Information from an official source,
which reached our newsroom this
1085
01:23:07,670 --> 01:23:10,010
stresses the seriousness of the
situation.
1086
01:23:17,930 --> 01:23:18,930
Mr.
1087
01:23:22,550 --> 01:23:24,960
Miller. Something very serious has
happened at the airport.
1088
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:30,160
But until we conclude our investigation
and take the necessary countermeasures,
1089
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,860
nothing is going to leak out. Nothing.
Last night I had this nightmare.
1090
01:23:34,180 --> 01:23:38,620
It was all about my leg. It was a big
explosion. It was right here in the
1091
01:23:38,620 --> 01:23:40,140
hospital. I got hit.
1092
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:42,280
My leg got cut off.
1093
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,040
Well, we don't have to worry over that
any longer.
1094
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,180
Jimmy, your leg's going to be just fine.
1095
01:23:54,570 --> 01:23:59,190
Yes General Murchison would like you to
come down here right away now
1096
01:23:59,190 --> 01:24:06,910
This
1097
01:24:06,910 --> 01:24:13,790
individual and others
1098
01:24:13,790 --> 01:24:18,050
like him have been subjected to strong
doses of atomic radiation which
1099
01:24:18,050 --> 01:24:22,050
their physical capacities Beyond the
norm in short. It's a kind of a Superman
1100
01:24:25,599 --> 01:24:27,320
This is Channel 5 TV station.
1101
01:24:27,860 --> 01:24:28,860
They're being attacked.
1102
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,120
For God's sakes, send somebody fast.
1103
01:24:37,060 --> 01:24:41,040
The victims of these creatures are
contaminated, even if they only suffer
1104
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:45,100
injuries. Then they can reproduce
themselves, Colonel, say, indefinitely?
1105
01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:55,710
We'll be completely on our own. We'll
simply have to declare a state of
1106
01:24:55,710 --> 01:24:56,710
emergency ourselves.
1107
01:24:57,290 --> 01:25:00,530
Or before we all become contaminated
just like them.
1108
01:25:12,110 --> 01:25:13,110
It's frightening.
1109
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:14,870
How could a thing like this happen?
1110
01:25:15,970 --> 01:25:19,050
It's part of the vital cycle of the
human race.
1111
01:25:19,850 --> 01:25:22,330
Create and obliterate until we destroy
ourselves.
1112
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:28,750
We have special commando units
positioned at all strategic points in
1113
01:25:28,750 --> 01:25:33,010
the city. Public buildings, offices, and
businesses alike have been ravaged. And
1114
01:25:33,010 --> 01:25:35,250
damage is estimated in the hundreds of
thousands.
1115
01:25:35,950 --> 01:25:38,070
General Hospital has been hit the
hardest.
1116
01:25:38,550 --> 01:25:42,890
Many have been seriously injured and
hundreds of lives have been lost. With
1117
01:25:42,890 --> 01:25:48,330
end still not in sight. My God, Sheila,
what's going on? I don't know. I really
1118
01:25:48,330 --> 01:25:49,330
don't know.
1119
01:25:57,990 --> 01:25:59,290
Dino, I don't want us to die.
1120
01:26:30,700 --> 01:26:33,400
Right, so here's Oasis of the Zombies by
Jeff Franco.
1121
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:38,120
And it's one of those Franco movies
which was everywhere like a bad rash in
1122
01:26:38,120 --> 01:26:39,360
video shops up and down the country.
1123
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:44,320
Very frustrating for Franco fans who
want to try and make a case for Franco
1124
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:49,060
really interesting director that several
of his absolute worst films were
1125
01:26:49,060 --> 01:26:51,460
absolutely everywhere on the shelves in
this country.
1126
01:26:53,020 --> 01:26:54,460
You know, I'm going to do it again
though.
1127
01:26:54,820 --> 01:26:58,400
Oasis of the Zombies, for all the fact
that it's a terrible film, has
1128
01:27:00,780 --> 01:27:05,300
I'm probably blowing all credibility as
a commentator on Franco now to say this,
1129
01:27:05,420 --> 01:27:10,100
but I can watch it, and I can watch it
more than... I've watched it about four
1130
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:12,700
times already, and I shall probably
watch it another four times.
1131
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,160
I think you're out of your head.
1132
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:16,960
There's something there.
1133
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:22,240
There's something a little poignant
about it. It's as if all the really
1134
01:27:22,240 --> 01:27:27,640
zombie stuff is happening just over the
sand dunes, like maybe 200 metres down
1135
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,020
the dunes.
1136
01:27:29,370 --> 01:27:31,830
there's a really exciting zombie film
happening and we're just getting the
1137
01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:35,050
dregs. I mean, Franco was making some
really wonderful films around this time.
1138
01:27:35,210 --> 01:27:39,370
In the early 80s, he was having a real
burst of energy and was back to making
1139
01:27:39,370 --> 01:27:41,150
maybe 10, 12 films a year again.
1140
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:43,110
And some of them are fantastic.
1141
01:27:43,770 --> 01:27:50,770
This one is a mess because he doesn't
give two hoots about zombie films. Just
1142
01:27:50,770 --> 01:27:53,210
like with the cannibal movies that he
made, he didn't care about those either.
1143
01:27:53,950 --> 01:27:57,030
He just kind of went along with the
prevailing desire.
1144
01:27:57,740 --> 01:28:02,300
from his producers to make these kind of
movies and said, OK, well, if you want
1145
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:03,300
me to do that, I'll do that.
1146
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,660
He probably thought, well, in two weeks'
time, I've got another movie that they
1147
01:28:09,660 --> 01:28:10,660
want, so why not?
1148
01:28:10,780 --> 01:28:12,020
No! No!
1149
01:28:12,420 --> 01:28:13,420
No!
1150
01:28:14,060 --> 01:28:17,860
He doesn't have a feel for this, but if
you're a Franco watcher and a Franco
1151
01:28:17,860 --> 01:28:22,580
fan, there are elements and traces there
that you can enjoy. I mean, the music,
1152
01:28:22,700 --> 01:28:25,480
so copperific and so...
1153
01:28:26,650 --> 01:28:30,550
dreamy and half there and half focused
you know when a movie goes out of focus
1154
01:28:30,550 --> 01:28:34,670
well the sound is doing that it's like
organ music that feels like it drifting
1155
01:28:34,670 --> 01:28:41,470
out of audibility almost it kind of
nudges you out of the frame it's got a
1156
01:28:41,470 --> 01:28:45,420
of the signs and symbols that you would
associate with the zombie film but It's
1157
01:28:45,420 --> 01:28:46,500
drifting away from them.
1158
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:52,140
You feel the energy of the film is not
taking you in the action -adventure
1159
01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:55,760
direction that you would get from
Romero. Franco can't afford the violence
1160
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,160
would take you in the Lucia Fulci
direction.
1161
01:28:57,740 --> 01:29:04,160
All he's left with is ambience, and a
sort of a desolate, sandy, vague,
1162
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:08,480
diffused ambience, which, if you can tap
into that, and if you're willing to
1163
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:13,400
spend 70 or 80 minutes just soaking that
up, fine.
1164
01:29:13,980 --> 01:29:16,360
Not everyone's going to be happy with
that. That's not enough for a lot of
1165
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:19,660
people. But if you can get off on that,
then Oasis of the Zombies does have some
1166
01:29:19,660 --> 01:29:20,780
pleasurable aspects to it.
1167
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,960
It's an interesting one as well because
it was shot in two different versions.
1168
01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:29,580
This one is, I think, the less
interesting of the two. The version that
1169
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:33,340
as Oasis of the Zombies was actually the
French cut of the film.
1170
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,160
About a year or maybe 18 months later,
Franco went back to the same locations
1171
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,640
and shot extra footage.
1172
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,540
with Spanish actors, a couple of Spanish
actors, including Lina Romay, his
1173
01:29:43,540 --> 01:29:46,640
partner, in order to resell the film for
the Spanish market.
1174
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:50,780
And the Spanish version has a different
score and slightly different themes.
1175
01:29:55,700 --> 01:29:59,460
The score actually makes a difference.
The score for the Spanish version is
1176
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:02,720
avant -garde, more bizarre and extreme.
1177
01:30:05,180 --> 01:30:08,540
puts you up in your seat a little bit,
whereas the music for the French version
1178
01:30:08,540 --> 01:30:13,020
is, as I say, quite soporific and too
dreamy for its own good, really. There
1179
01:30:13,020 --> 01:30:16,220
aren't very many people out there that
would tax themselves by watching the two
1180
01:30:16,220 --> 01:30:17,560
of them back -to -back. I've done it.
1181
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:20,600
I've written about it. No -one else need
ever do it.
1182
01:30:21,580 --> 01:30:25,180
The Spanish version has a different
title. It's called La Tamba de las
1183
01:30:25,180 --> 01:30:29,760
Vivientes, which is Tomb of the Living
Dead. The French version actually was
1184
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:33,120
called La Bime de Mont -Revant, which is
The Abyss of the Living Dead.
1185
01:30:33,500 --> 01:30:36,380
It's only the English language version
that's called Oasis, but the English
1186
01:30:36,380 --> 01:30:39,920
language version is basically the French
version retitled. As far as its reason
1187
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,660
for attracting the attention of the
police or the courts, it's purely to do
1188
01:30:43,660 --> 01:30:44,599
the zombie thing.
1189
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:49,080
I mean, this time, really, we can say
for certain, I'm sure, that there's
1190
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:54,840
nothing that could really justify
putting this film on a list of video
1191
01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:56,100
in terms of content.
1192
01:30:56,320 --> 01:31:00,680
It's purely going to be that some police
officer has had the word zombie branded
1193
01:31:00,680 --> 01:31:01,680
into his imagination.
1194
01:31:02,540 --> 01:31:05,960
And as soon as you saw it on a video
shelf, you just plucked the title down
1195
01:31:05,960 --> 01:31:07,040
probably didn't even look at the front.
1196
01:31:23,720 --> 01:31:24,720
You believe in zombies?
1197
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,780
I believe it when I see it.
1198
01:31:48,839 --> 01:31:51,000
The living, the dead.
1199
01:31:51,260 --> 01:31:52,620
Oh, Father.
1200
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,420
For God's sake, where's the oasis?
1201
01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:58,660
For God's sake, where's the oasis?
1202
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:04,440
Chia!
1203
01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:24,700
Parasite was one of a little blip of 3D
movies that came out in the 80s, mostly,
1204
01:34:24,700 --> 01:34:26,100
oddly enough, in 1983.
1205
01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:27,640
3D.
1206
01:34:29,380 --> 01:34:34,240
The movie fantasy of yesterday is now
the terrifying film experience of the
1207
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,020
future. We think of Jaws 3D.
1208
01:34:36,490 --> 01:34:37,570
Amityville 3D.
1209
01:34:37,810 --> 01:34:42,930
It started off with a Spaghetti Western
called Come In At Ya. And I think
1210
01:34:42,930 --> 01:34:48,070
Charles Band got in second, maybe with
Parasite, maybe with Metal Storm, The
1211
01:34:48,070 --> 01:34:49,590
Destruction of Jared Sin.
1212
01:34:49,890 --> 01:34:54,510
But for a while, he was one of the few
people in America who was taking 3D as a
1213
01:34:54,510 --> 01:34:55,510
process seriously.
1214
01:34:57,030 --> 01:35:00,070
3D, the ultimate sensation of visual
art.
1215
01:35:00,310 --> 01:35:04,730
He didn't stick with it, perhaps because
video.
1216
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:10,720
just took off as the medium that his
kind of movies were going to. And even
1217
01:35:10,720 --> 01:35:16,920
they can't really do 3D on, you know,
using videotape as a medium. There were
1218
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,160
few releases of older things like The
Mask where they put some glasses in, but
1219
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,100
I've never met anybody who's made it
work.
1220
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,900
who's actually had anything except a
headache out of looking through the
1221
01:35:26,900 --> 01:35:33,620
cardboard glasses at a VHS playing. So
Parasite came out flat on video.
1222
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:38,180
For technical reasons, the preview you
are about to see is not three
1223
01:35:38,180 --> 01:35:44,340
-dimensional. It was sort of an alien
imitation, sort of a Mad Max imitation
1224
01:35:44,340 --> 01:35:50,620
its miserable near future in the late
1990s. And there's a scientist who's got
1225
01:35:50,620 --> 01:35:51,620
parasite.
1226
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:56,320
Which looks like, as Cynthia Rose
memorably said, a Big Mac with teeth.
1227
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:01,200
some futuristic scumbags like the ones
in Mad Max who do some bad things which
1228
01:36:01,200 --> 01:36:05,560
require revenge being taken on them. And
we have the very young Demi Moore in
1229
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:07,360
cut -off shorts and a belly shirt.
1230
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:10,860
As a matter of fact, I don't even know
what I'm getting involved with.
1231
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:16,620
All credit to her. She's, over her
career, has become... occasionally a bit
1232
01:36:16,620 --> 01:36:21,100
standing joke for a kind of tabloid
lifestyle she has always been a good
1233
01:36:21,100 --> 01:36:26,500
she has always had dignity even in
rubbish and she's very good in parasite
1234
01:36:26,500 --> 01:36:32,960
i don't have a choice you can see that
this is a movie which any producer
1235
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:38,100
watching would say get me that girl and
lose the number of all those other guys
1236
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:40,740
can i open it rick can i rick i want to
know
1237
01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:46,760
So as a stepping stone in her career,
it's of interest.
1238
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:53,080
I think now it has, like a lot of those
80s futuristic visions, it's almost
1239
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:58,580
nostalgic. They're kind of broken down
America, although, you know, global
1240
01:36:58,580 --> 01:37:01,780
warming and gas shortages and all these
things that would never happen in real
1241
01:37:01,780 --> 01:37:04,880
life. I hope you got some money to pay
for all this.
1242
01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,740
Nobody's filled up their car with gas in
years.
1243
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:11,880
And I think that the...
1244
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:19,080
The once -in -a -lifetime teaming of
Robert Glaudini and Luca Bercovici,
1245
01:37:19,140 --> 01:37:24,760
who I still get mixed up as antagonists,
is quite interesting.
1246
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:30,080
3D.
1247
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:37,040
The movie fantasy of yesterday is now
the terrifying film experience of the
1248
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,700
future, for technical reasons.
1249
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:44,760
The preview you are about to see is not
three -dimensional. Be assured, Parasite
1250
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,880
is the most gripping and frightening
movie you will ever see.
1251
01:37:48,100 --> 01:37:52,240
And in 3D, you will be part of the
terror.
1252
01:37:52,820 --> 01:37:57,520
You are about to witness the future. Be
warned, it is a shocking sight.
1253
01:37:58,100 --> 01:38:03,380
3D, the ultimate sensation of visual
art, now creates the newest, most
1254
01:38:03,380 --> 01:38:06,380
terrifying form of fear, Parasite.
1255
01:38:07,580 --> 01:38:08,900
That thing on your stomach.
1256
01:38:09,180 --> 01:38:13,540
A new strain of parasite. When it
reproduces, it will cast millions of
1257
01:38:13,540 --> 01:38:15,380
microscopic spores into the air.
1258
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:18,760
Just move your legs towards me. Real
slow.
1259
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:20,340
Real slow.
1260
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:26,500
Experience the living, breathing,
terrifying vision of modern 3D.
1261
01:38:28,060 --> 01:38:30,880
Parasite. You have only seen the
preview.
1262
01:38:31,140 --> 01:38:34,980
In 3D, you will live the film.
1263
01:38:37,019 --> 01:38:40,860
Parasite, the first futuristic monster
movie in 3D.
1264
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:42,840
Parasite.
1265
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,620
Okay, so we have here Phantasm by Don
Coscarelli. Now, I'm sure that this
1266
01:38:59,620 --> 01:39:00,840
doesn't need very much of an
introduction.
1267
01:39:04,590 --> 01:39:08,630
If this one doesn't scare you, you're
already dead.
1268
01:39:09,990 --> 01:39:12,870
If you're a horror fan and you've not
seen Phantasm, then where the hell have
1269
01:39:12,870 --> 01:39:17,370
you been? It's an essential, essential
film. One of my all -time favourites.
1270
01:39:17,550 --> 01:39:21,890
It's doing that kind of dreamlike, is it
real or is it a dream, is it real or is
1271
01:39:21,890 --> 01:39:26,890
it some parallel fantasy world? It's
playing with the boundaries of what's
1272
01:39:26,890 --> 01:39:29,910
and what isn't real in a way that a few
years later films like Nightmare on Elm
1273
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:31,370
Street would come along and kind of...
1274
01:39:31,920 --> 01:39:36,000
nail down a bit more whereas the
boundaries in this film feel looser and
1275
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:42,080
stranger than that phantasm is it a
nightmare it is very very dreamlike
1276
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:48,660
phantasm is it an illusion it kind of
combines so many different elements as
1277
01:39:48,660 --> 01:39:53,200
well it's a reality bending uh horror
story it's a sort of a story about
1278
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,080
fraternal love and loyalty as well which
i think is one of the reasons why it's
1279
01:39:57,080 --> 01:40:02,640
attracted a lot of among fans over the
years. It's not just a... Nothing wrong
1280
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,860
with just a horror film, I should add,
but it's not just a horror film.
1281
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:08,260
There's a lot of emotional content as
well.
1282
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:11,440
Mike, that tall man of yours did not
take Jodie away.
1283
01:40:11,720 --> 01:40:13,280
Jodie died in a car wreck.
1284
01:40:19,060 --> 01:40:22,420
Instead of what usually happens in
horror movies these days, where everyone
1285
01:40:22,420 --> 01:40:25,880
basically chipping at each other all the
time and trying to outdo each other,
1286
01:40:25,960 --> 01:40:26,960
and there's a lot of...
1287
01:40:27,490 --> 01:40:31,670
waspish and snide comments between the
characters, because scriptwriters love
1288
01:40:31,670 --> 01:40:32,670
write that shit.
1289
01:40:32,990 --> 01:40:38,350
They can make themselves sound a bit
sharper and wittier than they perhaps
1290
01:40:38,350 --> 01:40:41,970
like they are in real life by writing
characters like that. In this, people
1291
01:40:41,970 --> 01:40:42,749
each other.
1292
01:40:42,750 --> 01:40:46,510
And it's kind of unusual in these kind
of horror movies. And it's got a kid at
1293
01:40:46,510 --> 01:40:48,750
the centre who's not a pain in the ass.
1294
01:40:49,110 --> 01:40:50,850
We're going for the sheriff. Go get
your...
1295
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:52,160
Evidence. All right.
1296
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:59,200
The other characters in the film, the
relationships between them are...
1297
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:01,340
friends. You feel that they're friends.
1298
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,360
It's actually a very warm film in a lot
of ways.
1299
01:41:04,580 --> 01:41:07,340
And then underlying it is this strange
element to do with the absence of
1300
01:41:07,340 --> 01:41:11,500
parents. At the beginning of the film,
the lead characters, parents, you find
1301
01:41:11,500 --> 01:41:14,540
out that one of them died a few months
ago and another one has just been put in
1302
01:41:14,540 --> 01:41:15,279
the ground now.
1303
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:17,380
So two brothers basically are left to
fend for themselves.
1304
01:41:17,740 --> 01:41:21,540
I don't know if this is an entirely
universal experience, but I remember as
1305
01:41:21,540 --> 01:41:27,060
kid feeling, kind of fantasising, not in
a really mean way, but thinking, if
1306
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:30,060
your parents died, you'd kind of have
the house to yourself, wouldn't you?
1307
01:41:30,440 --> 01:41:33,520
And just kind of imagining how that
would work and thinking, yeah, just
1308
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:36,200
it'd be really sad, you know, and
you'd...
1309
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:40,920
you'd be terribly sad and you'd kind of
mentally work through this fantasy of
1310
01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:44,580
your parents dying and think, oh, I'd be
terribly sad. But then again, you'd
1311
01:41:44,580 --> 01:41:45,680
have more freedom as well, wouldn't you?
1312
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:51,400
So there's this kind of underlying trend
in fantasy, all sorts of kind of
1313
01:41:51,400 --> 01:41:54,560
adolescent fantasies, I think. And then
there's also this kind of emerging
1314
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:59,880
sexuality, the fact that the kid's older
brother is scoring with girls, so he's
1315
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,320
kind of spying on his older brother, and
there's all this kind of intimacy.
1316
01:42:03,690 --> 01:42:07,830
a blossoming sort of sexual interest and
awareness represented by very
1317
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:11,710
mysterious women in the film. There's a
mysterious, very beautiful, voluptuous
1318
01:42:11,710 --> 01:42:15,030
younger woman that the older brother is
making out with.
1319
01:42:15,530 --> 01:42:18,770
And then the other women in the film are
extremely strange and mysterious,
1320
01:42:18,970 --> 01:42:23,950
including a kind of a witch -like mystic
living at a house by the crossroads who
1321
01:42:23,950 --> 01:42:28,510
has magical powers and who, just in the
most casual way possible, the lead
1322
01:42:28,510 --> 01:42:31,530
character goes to visit for advice about
what's going on. Of course, this brings
1323
01:42:31,530 --> 01:42:32,530
us on to...
1324
01:42:33,340 --> 01:42:37,460
The central character, perhaps, in the
film, the iconic figure, the tall man,
1325
01:42:37,660 --> 01:42:42,600
who is as much a part of horror
iconography as Dracula and Frankenstein,
1326
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:44,920
as I'm concerned, and I think for a lot
of other people as well.
1327
01:42:45,580 --> 01:42:48,280
The funeral is about to begin, sir.
1328
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,220
And what does the tall man represent?
He's a sort of a, again, a kind of a
1329
01:42:52,220 --> 01:42:56,890
childhood... And, of course, he's played
brilliantly by this wonderful actor,
1330
01:42:56,990 --> 01:42:59,570
Angus Scrimm. It's not his real name.
He's actually called Rory Guy.
1331
01:43:00,090 --> 01:43:02,890
And he did actually appear in some
horror films before this. He's in a
1332
01:43:02,890 --> 01:43:06,750
little movie called Scream Bloody Murder
in the early 70s. Not playing a
1333
01:43:06,750 --> 01:43:10,310
menacing figure, playing a doctor, but
if you're a big fan of Phantasm and
1334
01:43:10,310 --> 01:43:14,430
like to see the tall man a few years
before Phantasm, then check out Scream
1335
01:43:14,430 --> 01:43:15,148
Bloody Murder.
1336
01:43:15,150 --> 01:43:18,030
There's a great scene in Phantasm, one
of my favourite scenes in any horror
1337
01:43:18,030 --> 01:43:20,750
movie, where you see him walking down...
1338
01:43:21,150 --> 01:43:24,350
A high street of this little mid
-American town in slow motion.
1339
01:43:24,890 --> 01:43:28,470
And there's an ice cream van with the
back door open and there's the
1340
01:43:28,470 --> 01:43:30,550
condensation wafting out of the ice
cream van.
1341
01:43:30,950 --> 01:43:36,410
And he just kind of turns and warms his
hands or cools his hands on the
1342
01:43:36,410 --> 01:43:42,810
condensation and basks for a second, you
know, in this kind of mist and fog from
1343
01:43:42,810 --> 01:43:43,810
the ice.
1344
01:43:43,850 --> 01:43:47,170
It's such a strange scene. It's straight
out of a dream.
1345
01:43:47,770 --> 01:43:49,690
It's, you know, perfect, perfect
filmmaking.
1346
01:43:49,930 --> 01:43:55,350
I think Phantasm, it sometimes has more
ideas than it can comfortably make into
1347
01:43:55,350 --> 01:43:56,309
a coherent whole.
1348
01:43:56,310 --> 01:44:00,950
Who gives a fuck? Who gives a...
Coherence be damned. I mean, it's just
1349
01:44:00,950 --> 01:44:04,110
this way, if there are loose ends and
things that don't quite make sense.
1350
01:44:05,070 --> 01:44:08,990
It's the kind of movie that should be
partially incoherent. It's actually a
1351
01:44:08,990 --> 01:44:09,990
strength, not a weakness.
1352
01:44:10,030 --> 01:44:15,130
As far as why it was on the verge of
being prosecuted, I mean, it's the
1353
01:44:15,130 --> 01:44:16,130
balls, isn't it?
1354
01:44:17,530 --> 01:44:21,230
The filth of spears with the drill bits
drilling into people's heads. Again,
1355
01:44:21,310 --> 01:44:24,410
that's probably it, isn't it? You know,
a driller killer is anything with
1356
01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:27,690
drills. And then, you know, not only do
they kind of latch onto your head and
1357
01:44:27,690 --> 01:44:32,430
dig blades into your head, but a drill
bit goes into your forehead as well.
1358
01:44:33,030 --> 01:44:37,630
So, given that there were five or six
titles which all the police forces
1359
01:44:37,630 --> 01:44:41,590
were obscene, or, you know, the courts
were saying were obscene, ice pit on
1360
01:44:41,590 --> 01:44:45,370
grave, driller killer, cannibal
holocaust, anything that reminded the
1361
01:44:45,370 --> 01:44:46,510
enforcement of...
1362
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:51,940
those emblematic titles was put forward
for prosecution on the basis that it was
1363
01:44:51,940 --> 01:44:55,280
a bit like that. Another possibility,
and again, it's always hard thinking
1364
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:59,140
way into the mindset of people who want
to ban things. It's a very strange
1365
01:44:59,140 --> 01:45:03,360
mental puppeteering exercise you have to
do to try and imagine how that process
1366
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:08,540
works. But yeah, maybe because the lead
character is a teenager and there's a
1367
01:45:08,540 --> 01:45:13,340
general feeling of it almost being a
kids' film. It's got one foot in a
1368
01:45:13,340 --> 01:45:15,580
adventure as well as horror.
1369
01:45:16,300 --> 01:45:22,000
And so maybe it's the collision of some
graphic horror scenes with a sensation
1370
01:45:22,000 --> 01:45:26,420
of almost like a sort of an after
-school children's adventure as well.
1371
01:45:26,580 --> 01:45:30,380
plus the fact that you've got whirling
drills going into people's heads, I
1372
01:45:30,380 --> 01:45:35,680
that probably accounts for it. But, hey,
you know, most people can tell that
1373
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,780
it's not a nasty in the sense of being
anything like.
1374
01:45:39,650 --> 01:45:44,430
you know, the more notorious titles.
It's a wonderful, wonderful fantasy
1375
01:45:44,550 --> 01:45:46,030
really, I think, more than anything
else.
1376
01:45:53,190 --> 01:45:54,190
Phantasm.
1377
01:45:55,110 --> 01:45:56,150
Is it a nightmare?
1378
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:04,430
Phantasm.
1379
01:46:04,570 --> 01:46:05,590
Is it an illusion?
1380
01:46:13,950 --> 01:46:17,030
Phantasm, is it an evil?
1381
01:46:21,390 --> 01:46:21,790
You
1382
01:46:21,790 --> 01:46:29,790
have
1383
01:46:29,790 --> 01:46:32,870
to take me home. What, what? No
questions. You must take me home.
1384
01:46:36,050 --> 01:46:37,970
Phantasm, is it a fantasy?
1385
01:46:55,010 --> 01:46:56,990
Is it alive?
1386
01:46:58,590 --> 01:46:59,910
Was nobody driving?
1387
01:47:15,270 --> 01:47:16,730
Whatever it is.
1388
01:47:22,090 --> 01:47:23,570
This one doesn't scare you.
1389
01:47:24,050 --> 01:47:25,650
You're already dead.
1390
01:47:34,550 --> 01:47:35,550
Phantasm.
1391
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:54,160
Pigs. Nice punchy title.
1392
01:47:54,620 --> 01:47:58,740
A film that's had a great many titles,
not all as punchy as that. It's been
1393
01:47:58,740 --> 01:48:03,900
called a variety of things, from Daddy's
Deadly Darling to The Strange Exorcism
1394
01:48:03,900 --> 01:48:07,640
of Lynn Hart, with the addition of an
entirely spurious exorcism scene at the
1395
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:11,340
beginning, which was apparently added
because the distributor at the time
1396
01:48:11,340 --> 01:48:14,860
like the incest theme that the film's
got and took away the first five
1397
01:48:14,940 --> 01:48:15,940
which makes that clear.
1398
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:19,920
But yes, it's one of those films that's
had a problematic distribution history.
1399
01:48:21,070 --> 01:48:23,950
No one seems to have quite been able to
squeeze the money out of it that they
1400
01:48:23,950 --> 01:48:26,790
thought they were going to get out of
it. And it's just been tossed from one
1401
01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:31,530
distributor to another, desperately
trying to come up with a last house on
1402
01:48:31,530 --> 01:48:35,290
left type title that will kind of grab
people. But I think it's best called
1403
01:48:35,290 --> 01:48:40,110
because, you know, it is a film about a
pig farmer who keeps pigs in his
1404
01:48:40,110 --> 01:48:44,670
backyard of his little diner sort of
restaurant, cafe, and periodically feeds
1405
01:48:44,670 --> 01:48:47,390
dead bodies to the pigs. I gotta do it.
1406
01:48:48,680 --> 01:48:55,180
If they got used to eating human flesh,
I'd got to do it. He explains that he
1407
01:48:55,180 --> 01:48:59,300
didn't start this process, it wasn't his
fault. You know, the first time it
1408
01:48:59,300 --> 01:49:00,480
happened, it was an accident.
1409
01:49:01,660 --> 01:49:05,240
They got loose in the field, there was a
drunk, he was asleep.
1410
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,960
And they'd eaten him alive, but then
they developed a taste for human flesh
1411
01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:11,240
they wouldn't accept anything else, so
what's a guy to do, you know?
1412
01:49:11,660 --> 01:49:12,660
Let them starve?
1413
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:13,720
Cut off that.
1414
01:49:14,220 --> 01:49:16,720
He feeds those pigs dead people.
1415
01:49:17,290 --> 01:49:18,510
And then he eats the pigs.
1416
01:49:18,770 --> 01:49:22,710
But then the story actually really gets
underway because this isn't a film about
1417
01:49:22,710 --> 01:49:26,350
one psycho, it's a film about two, which
has got an interesting plot line. The
1418
01:49:26,350 --> 01:49:30,750
other psychotic in the film is this
unfortunate girl who experienced incest
1419
01:49:30,750 --> 01:49:36,070
the hands of her father, murdered him in
a fury, spent some time in a mental
1420
01:49:36,070 --> 01:49:41,230
hospital having electroshock for her
pains, and then manages to escape and
1421
01:49:41,230 --> 01:49:45,290
on the run. And Chance brings her
together with our pig -farming nutjob.
1422
01:49:45,900 --> 01:49:46,920
I'm looking for work.
1423
01:49:47,660 --> 01:49:50,300
You want a job, eh?
1424
01:49:50,980 --> 01:49:51,980
I guess.
1425
01:49:52,060 --> 01:49:58,420
And an unusual May -December semi
-romance develops between this girl
1426
01:49:58,420 --> 01:50:02,180
about 20 and the pig farmer who's in his
60s.
1427
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:04,780
I like to find things out for myself.
1428
01:50:05,020 --> 01:50:06,020
What did you find out?
1429
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:08,900
That you worked in a circus.
1430
01:50:09,620 --> 01:50:13,480
And they're like ships that pass in the
night, but they have a sympathy for each
1431
01:50:13,480 --> 01:50:14,880
other, and he has a sympathy for her.
1432
01:50:15,859 --> 01:50:19,320
She starts to understand his and they
kind of come together.
1433
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,560
Somebody after you?
1434
01:50:20,660 --> 01:50:22,280
Why would anyone be after me?
1435
01:50:22,540 --> 01:50:24,660
I didn't ask. Why, just if.
1436
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:29,680
It's a very unusual story about two
psychos who have a kind of an almost
1437
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:30,680
affair.
1438
01:50:30,700 --> 01:50:37,520
It's a particularly unusual film because
the director, Mark Lawrence, cast his
1439
01:50:37,520 --> 01:50:42,560
daughter, Toni Lawrence, as the
psychopathic girl in the film.
1440
01:50:43,050 --> 01:50:48,390
So this is a very odd film about infest,
where a girl murders her abusive,
1441
01:50:48,550 --> 01:50:53,510
incestuous father, goes on the run and
shacks up with a psychopath who takes on
1442
01:50:53,510 --> 01:50:58,670
a quasi -paternal protective role,
played by her real father.
1443
01:50:59,290 --> 01:51:02,670
Very odd. And apparently the whole point
of the film, the reason why Mark
1444
01:51:02,670 --> 01:51:05,310
Lawrence made it in the first place, was
there's a kind of a showreel for his
1445
01:51:05,310 --> 01:51:09,150
daughter as an actress, and she gives a
great performance. She's genuinely
1446
01:51:09,150 --> 01:51:10,150
frightening at times.
1447
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:19,740
She's a murderous psychopath one minute
and a traumatized little girl the next.
1448
01:51:20,180 --> 01:51:22,040
So it's a tour de force of acting.
1449
01:51:23,020 --> 01:51:27,620
I didn't do anything. Please don't blame
me. I didn't do anything.
1450
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,560
I don't blame you.
1451
01:51:30,780 --> 01:51:31,780
Mark Lauren.
1452
01:51:32,100 --> 01:51:36,640
Tragic story. He was a great, great
actor. He was one of those people that
1453
01:51:36,640 --> 01:51:40,040
never out of work in the 40s and 50s
playing gangsters.
1454
01:51:40,260 --> 01:51:44,260
He had one of those faces that just, you
know, he was kind of in the mould of
1455
01:51:44,260 --> 01:51:48,460
the Cagney's of this world, you know.
You would want him as your criminal
1456
01:51:48,460 --> 01:51:50,680
sidekick, you know, just looked the
part.
1457
01:51:52,260 --> 01:51:58,500
Worked his way all the way through the
40s and then in the 1950s he fell foul
1458
01:51:58,500 --> 01:52:00,700
the House Un -American Activities
Committee
1459
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:06,680
He was questioned about his allegiance
to the Communist Party and admitted that
1460
01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,020
he had been a member of the Communist
Party at some point in the past. Under
1461
01:52:10,020 --> 01:52:16,020
knows what pressure from the McCarthy
questioners, he grasped up a couple of
1462
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:18,080
people that were also members of the
Communist Party.
1463
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,820
I mean, it sounds reprehensible, but as
anyone who's looked into that period
1464
01:52:23,820 --> 01:52:27,380
will know, a lot of innocent people were
placed under intolerable pressure at
1465
01:52:27,380 --> 01:52:28,380
the time.
1466
01:52:28,600 --> 01:52:29,740
Anyway, it...
1467
01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:31,780
It was the end of his career in America.
1468
01:52:32,140 --> 01:52:33,680
He moved to Europe for a while.
1469
01:52:34,040 --> 01:52:39,440
I think he came back in the early 70s or
late 60s, and Pigs was his only
1470
01:52:39,440 --> 01:52:40,500
directorial credit.
1471
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:44,040
It's just a very strange little film.
It's got a very, very odd mood to it.
1472
01:52:44,100 --> 01:52:47,440
Rather like The Child, which we were
discussing earlier, you can't tell where
1473
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,880
it's set. It seems to be set in the
middle of nowhere, and there's this
1474
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:52,020
kind of hermetic, isolated feel about
the film.
1475
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:04,320
It's even stranger, though, when you
realise that this is a film that feels
1476
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:09,200
much like a kind of an independent
weirdo sort of horror film made by one
1477
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:13,860
classic actors of Hollywood of the
1940s. It's a combination you would
1478
01:53:13,860 --> 01:53:14,860
have expected to have happened.
1479
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:18,060
Personally, I think it's a real shame
that he didn't get to make any more
1480
01:53:18,060 --> 01:53:21,460
because I could watch another three or
four films just like it. And, in fact,
1481
01:53:21,460 --> 01:53:23,560
screen pigs here in England when...
1482
01:53:24,090 --> 01:53:27,830
We had a film festival for the release
of Nightmare USA, and I was thrilled to
1483
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:31,610
be able to show a print of one of the
many different, slight different edits
1484
01:53:31,610 --> 01:53:32,990
pigs on that occasion.
1485
01:53:33,310 --> 01:53:36,990
So, yeah, it's another very special
film, I think, and a real one -off.
1486
01:53:36,990 --> 01:53:38,290
not pigs, you know.
1487
01:53:39,770 --> 01:53:40,770
They're dead people.
1488
01:53:41,850 --> 01:53:47,310
Evidently, it's the idea of pigs eating
human flesh that's the shocking element
1489
01:53:47,310 --> 01:53:48,289
of the film.
1490
01:53:48,290 --> 01:53:52,990
Within the first few minutes, you do see
some pig snouts chomping away at
1491
01:53:52,990 --> 01:53:54,200
Severed. body parts.
1492
01:53:55,120 --> 01:54:00,020
I doubt, I seriously doubt whether or
not the police watched much more than
1493
01:54:00,020 --> 01:54:03,420
first few minutes, just probably saw
that and thought, it's that kind of
1494
01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,040
Rather like Evil Speak, one of the ones
that was prosecuted, it was Evil Speak
1495
01:54:07,040 --> 01:54:10,980
which had a scene where a woman is eaten
by pigs in a shower cubicle, I seem to
1496
01:54:10,980 --> 01:54:14,340
remember. Maybe that was already in
someone's mind when they thought, here
1497
01:54:14,340 --> 01:54:16,040
again, more flesh -eating pigs.
1498
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:19,960
You know, that should be the tagline
really, shouldn't it?
1499
01:54:29,710 --> 01:54:33,150
Perhaps the other reason why it
attracted the attention of Her Majesty's
1500
01:54:33,150 --> 01:54:38,110
Constabulary is A, because it's called
pigs, and B, because the ad line is,
1501
01:54:38,110 --> 01:54:40,490
eat anything, even evidence.
1502
01:54:41,370 --> 01:54:43,930
Well, perhaps that was just a little too
close to the bone for them, you know.
1503
01:54:44,570 --> 01:54:47,690
You've got to realize, your father is
dead.
1504
01:54:48,790 --> 01:54:49,790
That's a lie.
1505
01:54:51,710 --> 01:54:53,490
This is real nice and friendly of you.
1506
01:54:54,270 --> 01:54:56,930
You know, most girls would be too
frightened to give a guy a lift.
1507
01:54:57,430 --> 01:54:58,670
Especially as big as I am.
1508
01:54:59,230 --> 01:55:02,230
I'm not afraid of you. You remind me of
my daddy.
1509
01:55:03,670 --> 01:55:07,690
Oh, something should be done about that
man.
1510
01:55:10,810 --> 01:55:12,510
Whatever you did, I don't care.
1511
01:55:12,750 --> 01:55:13,810
I'll make a difference to me.
1512
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:16,070
I know you're here.
1513
01:55:17,170 --> 01:55:18,650
They smelt you out.
1514
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:21,070
They got used to eating human flesh.
1515
01:55:21,550 --> 01:55:22,870
Something wrong with that man.
1516
01:55:23,710 --> 01:55:26,550
Something wrong up here. They're not
pigs, you know.
1517
01:55:26,970 --> 01:55:32,490
They're dead people. He feeds those pigs
dead people, and then he eats the pigs.
1518
01:55:32,670 --> 01:55:36,590
Where would you say that he gets his
dead people from?
1519
01:55:40,070 --> 01:55:46,290
Papa bear, tell me, what do you see?
1520
01:55:49,450 --> 01:55:52,030
One little girl...
1521
01:56:07,210 --> 01:56:08,210
He really has a new pig now.
1522
01:56:09,170 --> 01:56:10,610
That young man is dead.
1523
01:56:11,530 --> 01:56:13,670
And he's a pig now. That young man is a
pig.
1524
01:56:20,130 --> 01:56:21,390
I had a bad dream.
1525
01:56:21,750 --> 01:56:23,670
Everybody has bad dreams.
1526
01:56:25,170 --> 01:56:26,170
Everybody.
1527
01:56:26,630 --> 01:56:33,170
Only small part of the bodies were...
1528
01:56:51,230 --> 01:56:53,390
It's Norman J. Warren's Prey.
1529
01:56:53,790 --> 01:56:57,590
Norman, I love you, but let's be honest,
this is pretty slow.
1530
01:56:58,050 --> 01:57:01,950
Okay, it features lesbianism, it
features cannibalism, it features
1531
01:57:02,480 --> 01:57:07,860
but it's all a handheld camera job,
really cheaply made, and a bit slow,
1532
01:57:07,940 --> 01:57:11,260
I mean, it comes up with some really
outrageous ideas, though. I mean, I
1533
01:57:11,260 --> 01:57:16,560
remember one book saying that it
featured some of the strongest images of
1534
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:21,060
British horror. And what they're
probably referring to is an actual fact,
1535
01:57:21,060 --> 01:57:26,420
main scene that it was all geared
around, which was the cannibalism scene
1536
01:57:26,420 --> 01:57:29,880
Barry Stokes there, actually seen in
the...
1537
01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:37,850
Quota quickie, as it says. All British
quota programme notes here for
1538
01:57:37,850 --> 01:57:41,390
distributors. And as you can see, it was
on a double bill with Charlie One -Eye.
1539
01:57:43,050 --> 01:57:46,590
Well, I mean, what can you say about
this movie? I mean, Barry Stokes plays a
1540
01:57:46,590 --> 01:57:52,780
half... half -alien called Cantor. He
told me that he actually kept the fangs
1541
01:57:52,780 --> 01:57:54,380
that he uses in the dog disguise.
1542
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:58,200
So he obviously had a good time making
it. Some of the actresses, like Laurie
1543
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:02,560
Annan, didn't, because when they're
thrashing around in that stagnant pond,
1544
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:05,600
all had to get tetanus shots just to
make sure they weren't sick afterwards.
1545
01:58:08,180 --> 01:58:11,920
Obviously the budget was so low they
couldn't afford any special effects. So
1546
01:58:11,920 --> 01:58:17,640
what you basically get is anything alien
is like a few torches sort of waved in
1547
01:58:17,640 --> 01:58:21,620
the face off camera. But hey, you know,
you took it with good grace in those
1548
01:58:21,620 --> 01:58:22,620
days.
1549
01:58:24,620 --> 01:58:28,940
of fiction it was only shot in 10 days
so it probably made money and i remember
1550
01:58:28,940 --> 01:58:34,040
norman actually did announce a sequel
called human prey that sadly was never
1551
01:58:34,040 --> 01:58:38,840
made but he did make outer touch a sort
of a sex alien version of this and that
1552
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:42,720
also starred barry stokes and glory
annan too so they went on to bigger and
1553
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,530
better things i mean It's a simple
movie.
1554
01:58:46,050 --> 01:58:50,050
It's one of Norman's warmest. It's
certainly one of his cheapest.
1555
01:58:50,390 --> 01:58:54,410
This was shot three years before in
Seminoid, and in America it was called
1556
01:58:54,410 --> 01:58:59,550
Prey. But, you know, all that endless
thrashing around in that pond, I mean,
1557
01:58:59,570 --> 01:59:03,670
really, you just get enough of it after
half of it, and it goes on and on and
1558
01:59:03,670 --> 01:59:07,650
on. Obviously, it had to flesh out the
running time, but the cannibal scenes...
1559
01:59:07,880 --> 01:59:10,760
what it's all about, especially Barry
Stokes in Drag 2.
1560
01:59:11,140 --> 01:59:13,360
Barry, never have that sex change
operation.
1561
01:59:15,340 --> 01:59:16,800
Cater to command ship.
1562
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:18,040
Command ship.
1563
01:59:18,060 --> 01:59:19,440
I am now in orbit.
1564
01:59:20,380 --> 01:59:21,460
Proceed with mission.
1565
01:59:23,000 --> 01:59:25,020
UFOs, fact or fiction?
1566
01:59:25,560 --> 01:59:28,760
Space explorers are figments of the
mind.
1567
01:59:31,260 --> 01:59:33,600
Made contact with human life forms.
1568
01:59:34,560 --> 01:59:36,140
New identity established.
1569
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:40,260
Are aliens already amongst us?
1570
01:59:40,580 --> 01:59:41,279
Command ship.
1571
01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:42,280
Command ship.
1572
01:59:42,420 --> 01:59:44,040
Their immediate reaction, aggressive.
1573
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:46,180
Take terminal action.
1574
01:59:46,740 --> 01:59:47,820
Continue with mission.
1575
01:59:48,800 --> 01:59:50,840
Why are they here?
1576
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:53,540
Success of total operation essential.
1577
01:59:58,820 --> 02:00:01,340
For a million years, man was a hunter.
1578
02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:03,460
Now, he is the prey.
1579
02:00:11,119 --> 02:00:12,780
Hooray, certificate X.
1580
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:28,180
Prom Night, made in Canada, where life
was cheap, or where slasher movies were
1581
02:00:28,180 --> 02:00:30,400
very cheap in the early 80s.
1582
02:00:31,820 --> 02:00:32,820
Prom Night.
1583
02:00:33,260 --> 02:00:37,560
If you're not back by midnight, you
won't be coming home.
1584
02:00:37,880 --> 02:00:38,880
There was a sort of...
1585
02:00:40,220 --> 02:00:44,660
You know that bit after the Titanic has
hit the iceberg and before the sinking
1586
02:00:44,660 --> 02:00:46,460
starts, that quiet phase?
1587
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:52,360
And after Halloween and Friday the 13th
had come out, it took a while for the
1588
02:00:52,360 --> 02:00:57,040
industry to react and start making
dozens of imitations. But in Canada,
1589
02:00:57,040 --> 02:01:01,720
really got it as early as Halloween
because Jamie Lee Curtis got signed up
1590
02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:05,780
make Terror Train and Prom Night with
Leslie Nielsen, who wasn't yet a comedy.
1591
02:01:06,190 --> 02:01:10,790
star directed by paul lynch who'd made a
couple of interesting minor canadian
1592
02:01:10,790 --> 02:01:15,190
semi -art films nobody had seen and then
went on to make more stuff like prom
1593
02:01:15,190 --> 02:01:21,730
night humongous is one of his humongous
it's loose
1594
02:01:21,730 --> 02:01:28,090
it's angry and it's getting hungry and
then i think he directed a lot of star
1595
02:01:28,090 --> 02:01:33,670
trek but prom night's one of those
movies that i feel a certain affection
1596
02:01:33,670 --> 02:01:34,790
because i saw it in the cinema
1597
02:01:35,690 --> 02:01:36,870
It's not very good.
1598
02:01:37,090 --> 02:01:43,070
It's in that subset of slasher movies
which are also whodunnits, except you
1599
02:01:43,070 --> 02:01:45,310
spot who the killer is really early on.
1600
02:01:46,010 --> 02:01:51,090
It has a bunch of teenagers who are
really obnoxious and deserve to die, and
1601
02:01:51,090 --> 02:01:52,009
then duly do.
1602
02:01:52,010 --> 02:01:53,690
Jamie Lee Curtis is rather...
1603
02:01:53,980 --> 02:01:59,180
oddly used in it she's the heroine but
because of the way the mystery works the
1604
02:01:59,180 --> 02:02:03,660
killer is never actually after her in
some ways the killer is trying to
1605
02:02:03,660 --> 02:02:08,640
her so it doesn't go the the route that
terror train or halloween does of of
1606
02:02:08,640 --> 02:02:12,940
having her in peril at the end so she's
the star of this film but oddly removed
1607
02:02:12,940 --> 02:02:13,940
from the plot
1608
02:02:15,050 --> 02:02:17,570
It then became kind of a Canadian
franchise.
1609
02:02:17,990 --> 02:02:22,330
There are three other Prom Night movies,
all different. Prom Night 2, Hello Mary
1610
02:02:22,330 --> 02:02:26,670
Lou, is a sort of Nightmare on Elm
Street rip -off with an evil dead
1611
02:02:26,670 --> 02:02:27,970
from the 1950s.
1612
02:02:28,250 --> 02:02:30,830
Now, Mary Lou has found her way back.
1613
02:02:31,610 --> 02:02:35,510
And Mary Lou is coming out for a party.
1614
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:52,460
And she's back in Prom Night 3, The Last
Kiss.
1615
02:02:53,000 --> 02:02:54,640
This is Mary Lou Maloney.
1616
02:02:55,020 --> 02:02:56,280
She's a good sport.
1617
02:02:56,640 --> 02:02:57,640
Touchdown!
1618
02:02:57,940 --> 02:02:58,980
She's sexy.
1619
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:00,940
She's dead.
1620
02:03:01,940 --> 02:03:03,880
He was looking for something different.
1621
02:03:04,260 --> 02:03:06,540
She was looking for something new.
1622
02:03:06,780 --> 02:03:09,780
But when they got together, it was
something deadly.
1623
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:13,720
Prom Night 3, The Last Kiss.
1624
02:03:14,000 --> 02:03:18,660
But it's a killer monk in Prom Night 4,
Deliver Us From Evil.
1625
02:03:32,749 --> 02:03:37,450
And then there's a movie called The
Club, which is a Canadian film from the
1626
02:03:37,450 --> 02:03:40,550
makers of Prom Night that takes place on
a prom night.
1627
02:03:40,830 --> 02:03:43,370
They all wanted to do something special.
1628
02:03:44,190 --> 02:03:50,170
So this year, the prom will be a costume
ball in an old manor house with a
1629
02:03:50,170 --> 02:03:53,750
prince and princess and a new hope for
this night.
1630
02:03:54,110 --> 02:03:58,970
Now, I would suspect that was developed
as prom night five, and then they looked
1631
02:03:58,970 --> 02:04:02,010
at it and thought, you know, four prom
nights is enough.
1632
02:04:02,390 --> 02:04:06,490
In this club, the initiation dues can be
fatal.
1633
02:04:08,710 --> 02:04:09,770
The club.
1634
02:04:10,440 --> 02:04:15,680
So this is an unrelated Prom Night type
film. And then there was a remake of
1635
02:04:15,680 --> 02:04:19,860
Prom Night, which is the most
forgettable of all the remakes of
1636
02:04:19,860 --> 02:04:21,020
from the 80s.
1637
02:04:21,500 --> 02:04:28,180
If anybody has any particular memory or
affection for the remake of Prom Night,
1638
02:04:28,360 --> 02:04:31,220
answers on a postcard.
1639
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:35,960
If it's somebody's favourite film, who
knows? I'm not sure why.
1640
02:04:36,540 --> 02:04:41,780
Prom night lasted so long. There may
have been a feeling in Britain that the
1641
02:04:41,780 --> 02:04:45,300
whole idea of prom night was kind of
exotic and strange.
1642
02:04:45,640 --> 02:04:50,740
There's a special night in the lives of
all of us. A night to be beautiful, to
1643
02:04:50,740 --> 02:04:51,740
be desirable.
1644
02:04:52,140 --> 02:04:55,140
Because British schools didn't have them
then, they do now.
1645
02:04:55,440 --> 02:05:02,380
And I suspect that Carrie had imprinted
the ritual of prom night on
1646
02:05:02,380 --> 02:05:04,040
a lot of British kids.
1647
02:05:06,490 --> 02:05:11,610
from a British perspective, to be this
strange alien world where kids could
1648
02:05:11,610 --> 02:05:14,890
limousines and tuxedos and all this sort
of stuff.
1649
02:05:15,110 --> 02:05:20,710
That seemed a lot different from the
school discos I remember, not least
1650
02:05:20,710 --> 02:05:24,930
is nobody dropped vats of pig's blood or
had telekinetic freak -outs.
1651
02:05:25,250 --> 02:05:31,030
So that's how Prom Night became a good
title for a horror film.
1652
02:05:31,270 --> 02:05:34,750
Before Carrie, if they'd made a film
called Prom Night, you'd have to assume
1653
02:05:34,750 --> 02:05:35,750
was a teen comedy.
1654
02:05:38,960 --> 02:05:43,920
I suppose that's all there is to say
about it. I don't remember the suspense
1655
02:05:43,920 --> 02:05:50,020
the death scenes being particularly
explicit or impressive, but it's
1656
02:05:50,020 --> 02:05:54,120
reasonably well -made film, which a lot
of these movies weren't. It moves along
1657
02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:56,980
at a fair old clip. I would happily
watch it.
1658
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:02,420
again, after all these years, because I
have a certain flicker of nostalgia for
1659
02:06:02,420 --> 02:06:08,940
it, for movies like it. I also remember
it was Cinefantastique, the
1660
02:06:08,940 --> 02:06:14,760
reviewer, said something about it which
stuck in my mind ever since, and keeps
1661
02:06:14,760 --> 02:06:20,740
coming back every time I hear some old
-time critic dissing the kind of films
1662
02:06:20,740 --> 02:06:27,240
kids like, and it was a A critic who I
assume must have been like 10, 15 years
1663
02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:33,860
older than me was saying that he
recognised that Prom Night served its
1664
02:06:33,860 --> 02:06:38,620
the way that films like I Was a Teenage
Werewolf had served him when he was a
1665
02:06:38,620 --> 02:06:42,960
kid. He says, yeah, these are films that
are addressing the concerns of the
1666
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:48,060
teenagers who like films like this and
for that reason will stick in their
1667
02:06:48,060 --> 02:06:50,260
minds, will become part of their
culture.
1668
02:06:51,550 --> 02:06:54,950
They're just kooky and kind of fun and
there's nothing actually wrong with
1669
02:06:56,590 --> 02:07:01,170
I'm not sure what it says about a
generation that embraced Saw or Hostel
1670
02:07:01,170 --> 02:07:02,170
same way.
1671
02:07:02,270 --> 02:07:08,530
However, I recognize that those are
their films and
1672
02:07:08,530 --> 02:07:12,290
that we should listen to them when they
talk about what they like about them.
1673
02:07:15,750 --> 02:07:20,130
There's a special night in the lives of
all of us. A night to be beautiful.
1674
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:21,880
To be desirable.
1675
02:07:22,300 --> 02:07:25,900
A night we can break all the rules and
make our own.
1676
02:07:26,120 --> 02:07:27,120
Prom night.
1677
02:07:28,720 --> 02:07:31,920
Everyone at Hamilton High is getting
ready for prom night.
1678
02:07:33,060 --> 02:07:34,740
It's a day of rehearsals.
1679
02:07:36,380 --> 02:07:37,380
Arrangements.
1680
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:38,760
Final preparations.
1681
02:07:40,500 --> 02:07:42,480
And last minute phone calls.
1682
02:07:53,580 --> 02:07:55,200
They're too old for games.
1683
02:07:55,800 --> 02:07:58,420
But someone still wants to play.
1684
02:07:58,740 --> 02:07:59,740
Why?
1685
02:08:01,340 --> 02:08:02,340
Kelly.
1686
02:08:03,320 --> 02:08:06,060
It's been a long time.
1687
02:08:07,020 --> 02:08:10,380
Tonight, it's my turn.
1688
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:12,600
Tonight,
1689
02:08:16,620 --> 02:08:19,860
someone has come to the prom alone.
1690
02:08:24,010 --> 02:08:26,770
Someone who watches in the silent
corridors.
1691
02:08:27,970 --> 02:08:28,970
Kelly.
1692
02:08:30,270 --> 02:08:35,330
Help! Someone who waits until no one can
help.
1693
02:08:36,790 --> 02:08:38,090
Prom night.
1694
02:08:38,390 --> 02:08:42,890
If you're not back by midnight, you
won't be coming home.
1695
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:04,520
OK, well, here we have Rabid by David
Cronenberg. And this is one of the best
1696
02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:08,900
the early Cronenberg films and somewhat
belies its reputation in a lot of ways.
1697
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:13,660
I think there is a general sense, or
sort of a cliché perhaps, that the early
1698
02:09:13,660 --> 02:09:14,960
Cronenberg films are quite cold.
1699
02:09:15,180 --> 02:09:16,640
Rabid really doesn't feel like that.
1700
02:09:17,140 --> 02:09:21,180
You'd be surprised if you actually stop
and look at it, just how much affection
1701
02:09:21,180 --> 02:09:22,860
is shown between characters in Rabid.
1702
02:09:23,180 --> 02:09:24,660
It's a very emotional film.
1703
02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:26,940
A film with no real monsters.
1704
02:09:27,220 --> 02:09:32,360
I mean, the lead character, played by
Marilyn Chambers, is a victim of a
1705
02:09:32,360 --> 02:09:36,680
situation which she didn't seek out and
which she's now thrown into a strange
1706
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:39,120
new world where she's trying to make
sense of her own drives.
1707
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:43,600
And although the plot requires that she
does some terrible things, it also
1708
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:48,080
hinges around the idea that she slowly
is forced to come to terms with what
1709
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:51,660
she's doing. And it's that process of
self -realisation which funnels you
1710
02:09:51,660 --> 02:09:52,860
towards the climax of the film.
1711
02:09:54,270 --> 02:09:57,390
Got all of the hallmarks of early
Cronenberg which can lead to that sense
1712
02:09:57,390 --> 02:10:01,690
coldness and detachment. It's set in
winter. There's a feeling of alienation
1713
02:10:01,690 --> 02:10:06,350
detachment created by these amazing
modernistic sort of cold buildings which
1714
02:10:06,350 --> 02:10:09,430
would set films in. This is also one of
those Cronenberg films that has that
1715
02:10:09,430 --> 02:10:14,730
uncanny sense of sort of predicting
future developments rather in the way
1716
02:10:14,730 --> 02:10:15,730
Videodrome seemed to do.
1717
02:10:15,930 --> 02:10:18,710
There are characters early on talking
about the possibility of setting up a
1718
02:10:18,710 --> 02:10:21,070
franchise chain of plastic surgery
clinics.
1719
02:10:21,900 --> 02:10:25,440
At the time it was being discussed in
the film, this seemed like a sort of a
1720
02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:31,260
slightly wacky sort of future sci -fi
sort of idea under the character who
1721
02:10:31,420 --> 02:10:33,780
I don't want to become the Colonel
Sanders of plastic surgery.
1722
02:10:34,120 --> 02:10:37,060
I just sure as hell don't want to become
the Colonel Sanders of plastic surgery.
1723
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:38,759
Why not?
1724
02:10:38,760 --> 02:10:39,760
Sounds great to me.
1725
02:10:40,000 --> 02:10:45,240
Well, we're now in a world where plastic
surgery is on tap and on demand, that
1726
02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:50,000
you'll have high street plastic surgeons
in a way which Cronenberg appears to
1727
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:51,000
anticipate.
1728
02:10:51,950 --> 02:10:56,450
You know, the idea of a franchised
operation for plastic surgery resorts is
1729
02:10:56,450 --> 02:10:59,570
unnatural. It's one of those
magnificent, inevitable ideas.
1730
02:10:59,850 --> 02:11:03,430
There are other kind of prophetic
elements, such as the focus on the idea
1731
02:11:03,430 --> 02:11:07,270
neutral field grafts. You'll then be
called neutral field grafts.
1732
02:11:08,810 --> 02:11:10,790
In the film, you've got this whole idea
that...
1733
02:11:11,440 --> 02:11:14,300
And it was a new idea, certainly a new
idea to me at the time and probably to a
1734
02:11:14,300 --> 02:11:17,880
lot of viewers, the idea that there are
certain kinds of tissue which can be
1735
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:21,960
treated to develop into any kind of
tissue, rather like an embryo's tissue
1736
02:11:21,960 --> 02:11:24,800
form arms, legs, skin, lungs or
whatever.
1737
02:11:26,140 --> 02:11:30,220
These ideas, which were kind of cutting
-edge medical and scientific ideas at
1738
02:11:30,220 --> 02:11:36,300
the time, were being fed into a genre
that had absolutely no record for that
1739
02:11:36,300 --> 02:11:37,239
kind of thing at all.
1740
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,260
I mean, when Rabid was made, we're
talking about 1976.
1741
02:11:41,210 --> 02:11:44,030
We were only about four years out of
classical Gothic, really.
1742
02:11:44,710 --> 02:11:49,810
You know, the Hammer Studios and Dracula
and Frankenstein and the whole works
1743
02:11:49,810 --> 02:11:51,610
were still fairly recent.
1744
02:11:52,410 --> 02:11:56,070
And so Cronenberg's work, which was
entirely coming from a completely
1745
02:11:56,070 --> 02:12:01,830
angle to do with modern concerns about
science, to do with anxiety about the
1746
02:12:01,830 --> 02:12:04,590
body and the pace and progression of
change in modern society.
1747
02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:08,020
were a bolt out of the blue.
1748
02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:11,980
I think one of the things that made
Cronenberg so immediately striking is
1749
02:12:11,980 --> 02:12:15,320
that you sensed a whole paradigm shift.
1750
02:12:15,580 --> 02:12:19,380
You were no longer dealing with the old
verities of the horror genre. He seemed
1751
02:12:19,380 --> 02:12:23,060
to have imported ideas that had come
completely out of left field.
1752
02:12:23,620 --> 02:12:26,340
And I think part of the thrill of those
early Cronenbergs, certainly at the
1753
02:12:26,340 --> 02:12:29,600
time, was thinking, I actually don't
know where this is going.
1754
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:32,420
I'm being presented with new ideas.
1755
02:12:33,180 --> 02:12:36,660
This director is not afraid to show me
images that I can't even anticipate.
1756
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:42,460
I mean, this is the film where the
heroine, stroke anti -heroine, has a
1757
02:12:42,460 --> 02:12:47,420
a penis syringe in her armpit with which
she sucks blood from unsuspecting
1758
02:12:47,420 --> 02:12:51,460
acquaintances. And part of the thrill of
those films was just thinking, I'm in
1759
02:12:51,460 --> 02:12:55,460
the hands of somebody with a totally
unique sensibility for the genre who is
1760
02:12:55,460 --> 02:12:58,480
pushing us into a new, troubling...
1761
02:12:58,980 --> 02:13:01,240
frightening and yet very, very
fascinating terrain.
1762
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:05,380
All around her, people are dying, and
only Rose knows why.
1763
02:13:05,620 --> 02:13:06,620
You've got to come quick.
1764
02:13:06,660 --> 02:13:08,400
You've got to come quick and get me.
1765
02:13:08,700 --> 02:13:12,900
And as I was saying earlier, also a
great deal of emotional honesty and
1766
02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:14,380
emotional resonance as well.
1767
02:13:15,160 --> 02:13:19,140
Some of the most upsetting things in the
film are to do with people who love
1768
02:13:19,140 --> 02:13:25,780
each other, who are forced to deal with
this eruption of impossible, insane new
1769
02:13:25,780 --> 02:13:26,880
developments in their lives.
1770
02:13:27,420 --> 02:13:30,000
and how they cope with that and how they
try and understand it.
1771
02:13:30,740 --> 02:13:32,160
So they're anything but cold.
1772
02:13:32,380 --> 02:13:35,740
And part of that comes from Marilyn
Chambers, who I have to say, as a porno
1773
02:13:35,740 --> 02:13:37,080
actress, who would have guessed?
1774
02:13:37,860 --> 02:13:42,180
I mean, you know, she gives such a
beautiful, touching performance as Rose
1775
02:13:42,180 --> 02:13:42,898
the film.
1776
02:13:42,900 --> 02:13:43,900
I feel strong.
1777
02:13:44,560 --> 02:13:45,880
I feel very strong.
1778
02:13:46,820 --> 02:13:51,280
There's this wonderful element of the
film to do with Cronenberg feeding into
1779
02:13:51,280 --> 02:13:54,220
the film his awareness of her reputation
as a porn actress.
1780
02:13:55,000 --> 02:13:58,220
So there are certain setups in the film
which feel like porno setups.
1781
02:13:58,940 --> 02:14:03,280
She's in the farmyard with the farm
animals and a farmer comes in and wants
1782
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:07,400
seduce her. She's picked up by a lorry
driver and you think, oh, it's the porno
1783
02:14:07,400 --> 02:14:11,220
thing of the hitchhiker and the lorry
driver and the seduction that you would
1784
02:14:11,220 --> 02:14:11,978
expect there.
1785
02:14:11,980 --> 02:14:15,900
There's the scene in a jacuzzi where she
approaches a young woman in a jacuzzi
1786
02:14:15,900 --> 02:14:16,900
in a seductive manner.
1787
02:14:17,040 --> 02:14:18,240
Do you mind if I get in with you?
1788
02:14:18,760 --> 02:14:23,440
It's filmed in a very kind of imperious,
seductive sort of pattern as she heads
1789
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,500
towards what would normally look like a
lesbian scene.
1790
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:31,560
And most of all, in the cinema, when she
goes to see a porno film, at which
1791
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:35,380
point the whole thing just combusts with
a real sense of wit and self
1792
02:14:35,380 --> 02:14:40,120
-awareness. Because here she is, porno
queen Marilyn Chambers, going to see a
1793
02:14:40,120 --> 02:14:45,420
porno movie, sitting down and some guy
two or three rows behind sees her and
1794
02:14:45,420 --> 02:14:47,880
thinks, as you can see from his
expression, oh my.
1795
02:14:48,660 --> 02:14:53,740
God, look at her. She's so stunning. I
mean, the dream fantasy, going to a
1796
02:14:53,740 --> 02:14:57,900
theatre and seeing a chick who looks
that hot, you know, it's just like a
1797
02:14:57,900 --> 02:14:58,900
fantasy come true.
1798
02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:02,880
And if you couldn't take this level of
self -awareness any further, on the
1799
02:15:02,880 --> 02:15:08,700
screen, in the porno movie that they're
watching, you hear a line, reality is
1800
02:15:08,700 --> 02:15:09,700
like a dream.
1801
02:15:09,740 --> 02:15:11,080
And reality is like a dream.
1802
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:14,300
And my dreams are like reality.
1803
02:15:15,530 --> 02:15:18,690
playing around with your awareness and
your awareness of the game's been played
1804
02:15:18,690 --> 02:15:22,750
by employing this iconic actress from
porn and bringing her into this
1805
02:15:22,750 --> 02:15:26,930
situation. Very cleverly done, but it's
not done in a kind of a wanky, sort of
1806
02:15:26,930 --> 02:15:27,970
smart -ass sort of way.
1807
02:15:28,210 --> 02:15:33,810
It's just done carefully and with a
level of ironic amusement that doesn't
1808
02:15:33,810 --> 02:15:34,810
in the way of the story.
1809
02:15:35,670 --> 02:15:39,270
So, yes, it's an incredibly subtle,
clever film.
1810
02:15:39,710 --> 02:15:42,710
There's another really subtle touch to
do with art design as well, which I
1811
02:15:42,710 --> 02:15:43,710
think...
1812
02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:47,420
In low -budget films, something that
falls usually by the wayside is art
1813
02:15:47,600 --> 02:15:49,480
usually because they're shot on
location.
1814
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:53,460
You can't dress the sets. There isn't
time for that. There isn't the money for
1815
02:15:53,460 --> 02:15:54,720
that. You film with what's there.
1816
02:15:56,240 --> 02:16:01,000
Cronenberg is very good at art design,
and he's got a real eye for amplifying
1817
02:16:01,000 --> 02:16:04,180
the theme of the film through carefully
chosen props and paintings.
1818
02:16:04,740 --> 02:16:08,140
And in Rabid, there's a wonderful scene
where Marilyn Chambers...
1819
02:16:08,970 --> 02:16:13,650
is about to realise that she's the
Typhoid Mary character who's been
1820
02:16:13,650 --> 02:16:19,070
the plague and she's lying in a sweat
from the side effects of the illness
1821
02:16:19,070 --> 02:16:19,849
she's got.
1822
02:16:19,850 --> 02:16:24,070
And the painting in her friend's house
where she's staying has these geometric
1823
02:16:24,070 --> 02:16:28,310
kind of triangular shapes all pointing
down towards where she's lying.
1824
02:16:29,130 --> 02:16:34,110
But it's before she realises. If it was
done when she realised, it would be
1825
02:16:34,110 --> 02:16:37,410
really, really over -determined and sort
of like almost comic.
1826
02:16:37,900 --> 02:16:40,160
You know, it would be like kind of over
-egging the situation.
1827
02:16:40,500 --> 02:16:44,040
But because she's on her way to
realising that she's the person who's
1828
02:16:44,040 --> 02:16:48,400
all this, this little piece of art
design is kind of just pointing you in
1829
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:51,900
direction and just drawing your
attention to the way that everything is
1830
02:16:51,900 --> 02:16:55,700
gathering without actually kind of
hitting the nail, you know, clumsily on
1831
02:16:55,700 --> 02:16:56,700
head.
1832
02:16:57,200 --> 02:17:00,580
One minute, they're perfectly normal.
The next, rapid.
1833
02:17:02,700 --> 02:17:06,760
As far as Section 3 is concerned and its
presence on the list of films that were
1834
02:17:06,760 --> 02:17:10,900
considered to be banned, it is very hard
to understand. I mean, as I understand
1835
02:17:10,900 --> 02:17:16,000
it, this film was released in the same
form in the cinemas as the next
1836
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:20,000
certificate release with no difficulty
at all. There are moments of horror.
1837
02:17:20,180 --> 02:17:23,379
Obviously, there are moments, upsetting
moments, grotesque moments in the film.
1838
02:17:26,090 --> 02:17:29,090
to try and understand why it ended up
getting anywhere near the video analysis
1839
02:17:29,090 --> 02:17:32,530
list is to try and second -guess the
mindset of an idiot.
1840
02:17:33,450 --> 02:17:36,910
You know, some idiot policeman watched
something in the film that he thought
1841
02:17:36,910 --> 02:17:42,170
offensive and unpleasant, and here we
are, 30 -odd years later, trying to
1842
02:17:42,170 --> 02:17:45,410
understand. I don't think... We don't
stand a cat in hell's chance, because
1843
02:17:45,410 --> 02:17:50,469
there's nothing in this film that ought
to be troubling people in the... You
1844
02:17:50,469 --> 02:17:53,809
know, I wouldn't put anything on a
banned list. Let me get that right. But,
1845
02:17:53,809 --> 02:17:58,090
know, if you were to put ice bit on your
grave, next to rabid, you know.
1846
02:17:59,110 --> 02:18:02,030
How can we possibly understand how
anyone could have thought that they were
1847
02:18:02,030 --> 02:18:03,030
equivalent in any way?
1848
02:18:25,290 --> 02:18:28,290
People are dying and only Rose knows
why.
1849
02:18:28,549 --> 02:18:31,350
You gotta come quick. You gotta come
quick and get me.
1850
02:18:32,629 --> 02:18:35,250
It's Rose. It's gotta be. Something's
happened to Rose.
1851
02:18:49,170 --> 02:18:50,128
Don't scream.
1852
02:18:50,129 --> 02:18:53,629
Don't panic. He's dead. And the dead
can't hurt the living.
1853
02:18:53,850 --> 02:18:54,850
Rabbit.
1854
02:18:56,709 --> 02:19:00,450
The Prime Minister was reluctant to
officially declare a state of emergency,
1855
02:19:00,450 --> 02:19:04,530
as any citizen in the streets can tell
you, martial law has come to Montreal.
1856
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:16,090
Shooting down the victims is as good a
way of
1857
02:19:16,090 --> 02:19:17,690
handling them as we have got.
1858
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:33,040
Trust your mother.
1859
02:19:35,000 --> 02:19:36,840
Your best friend.
1860
02:19:38,260 --> 02:19:40,360
The neighbor next door.
1861
02:19:43,040 --> 02:19:47,040
One minute, they're perfectly normal.
The next, rabid.
1862
02:19:51,320 --> 02:19:54,480
Pray it doesn't happen to you.
1863
02:20:15,150 --> 02:20:18,590
Okay, Rosemary's Killer, a .k .a. The
Prowler, is probably better known under
1864
02:20:18,590 --> 02:20:19,590
the Prowler title.
1865
02:20:19,810 --> 02:20:20,810
The Prowler.
1866
02:20:21,350 --> 02:20:23,710
If he wants you, he'll get you.
1867
02:20:24,070 --> 02:20:28,590
It's a 1981 slasher classic from Joe
Zito, who went on to do Friday the 13th,
1868
02:20:28,590 --> 02:20:29,590
the final chapter in 1984.
1869
02:20:29,790 --> 02:20:33,290
In fact, it was this film which helped
him get that gig. In fact, the people
1870
02:20:33,290 --> 02:20:36,310
behind the Friday the 13th series
actually said to him, if they could put
1871
02:20:36,310 --> 02:20:40,290
film out as the Friday the 13th movie,
it would make a, you know... a whole
1872
02:20:40,290 --> 02:20:42,850
of money. Unfortunately, they didn't do
that, but they did get him to make that
1873
02:20:42,850 --> 02:20:47,170
film. You may think you're safe, but
you're dead wrong.
1874
02:20:47,650 --> 02:20:51,510
Now, Rosemary's Killer is probably an
apter title than The Prowler.
1875
02:20:51,590 --> 02:20:53,890
what it was was a prologue set in 1945.
1876
02:20:54,490 --> 02:20:59,010
At graduation dance, Rosemary is
pitchforked with her new lover by her
1877
02:20:59,010 --> 02:21:01,270
GI boyfriend, who she sent a Dear John
letter to.
1878
02:21:02,250 --> 02:21:06,510
Now, obviously, he's a bit pissed off by
that, but... Nothing happens for 30 odd
1879
02:21:06,510 --> 02:21:10,090
years. And then, of course, as what
happens in fashion movies in the early
1880
02:21:10,090 --> 02:21:14,350
1980s, they decide to have another
dance. Just like My Bloody Valentine,
1881
02:21:14,350 --> 02:21:17,550
is a very similar sort of set -up. And,
of course, the murders start anew, and
1882
02:21:17,550 --> 02:21:19,850
the G .I. is back with his trusty
pitchfork.
1883
02:21:20,130 --> 02:21:21,130
Tonight.
1884
02:21:21,380 --> 02:21:22,960
The terror begins again.
1885
02:21:23,300 --> 02:21:26,840
It also, of course, has the Tom Savini
special effects, which is probably the
1886
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:28,500
biggest draw for the film.
1887
02:21:28,720 --> 02:21:32,280
Now, Tom Savini, you know, it's probably
his best work, actually. Friday the
1888
02:21:32,280 --> 02:21:35,300
13th is obviously one of his better
known than Dawn of the Dead. But you
1889
02:21:35,300 --> 02:21:38,480
back at them and they look a little bit
hokey now, I would say. But Rosemary's
1890
02:21:38,480 --> 02:21:39,840
Killer is still incredibly brutal.
1891
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:45,720
There's a scene where somebody gets a
machete through the top of the head and
1892
02:21:45,720 --> 02:21:48,520
comes out through the bottom of their
neck, get their eyeballs rolled back.
1893
02:21:49,580 --> 02:21:51,920
It's in the wine tribe. It's killed in a
swimming pool.
1894
02:21:53,920 --> 02:21:57,580
Who somehow managed to swim underwater
in all this kind of gear and cuts the
1895
02:21:57,580 --> 02:22:00,700
throat with a machete. Now, it's
incredibly violent. And in its uncut
1896
02:22:00,840 --> 02:22:04,360
it still packs quite a punch. Now, of
course, Rosemary's Killer, when it came
1897
02:22:04,360 --> 02:22:07,400
out in the UK, of course, when it did
come out, it came out in cinema and, of
1898
02:22:07,400 --> 02:22:10,800
course, it was cut quite heavily. And
this version was cut heavily on video.
1899
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:14,240
Now, I remember hiring this when I was
about 12 or 13.
1900
02:22:15,660 --> 02:22:17,740
And I managed to get it out of the video
library.
1901
02:22:18,140 --> 02:22:20,920
And they were, you know, it was one of
the few times I managed to get away with
1902
02:22:20,920 --> 02:22:24,040
actually hiring a film like this after
seeing films like Friday the 13th.
1903
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:27,620
And I remember thinking, well, there's
not much in it. But, of course, again,
1904
02:22:27,740 --> 02:22:29,700
it's one of those films where pretty
much everything was cut out.
1905
02:22:30,140 --> 02:22:35,480
Now, Rosemary's Killer also stars
Lawrence Tierney, who was in Midnight.
1906
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:36,480
another film we've talked about.
1907
02:22:36,520 --> 02:22:39,880
And also Farley Granger, who plays the
sheriff, who, if you're trying to work
1908
02:22:39,880 --> 02:22:43,460
out, it sets itself up as a whodunit.
Now, it doesn't really give much away
1909
02:22:43,460 --> 02:22:46,520
Farley Granger is probably the best
known. with Lawrence Tierney in the
1910
02:22:46,520 --> 02:22:50,140
disappears after about five minutes.
Now, who could be the killer? Hmm, I
1911
02:22:50,140 --> 02:22:54,520
wonder. So he turns up, he ends with Tom
Savini blowing someone else's head off
1912
02:22:54,520 --> 02:22:55,520
with a shotgun.
1913
02:22:56,779 --> 02:22:58,800
Very much in the way of Maniac.
1914
02:22:59,080 --> 02:23:03,180
So it's a film that's come back into
popularity, I guess, in the last few
1915
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:08,480
It's been given some fantastic DVD and
Blu -ray releases, but it's a film that
1916
02:23:08,480 --> 02:23:11,820
could have almost vanished for quite a
while, and Joe Vito actually said he
1917
02:23:11,820 --> 02:23:15,640
almost decided he didn't want anyone to
see it, partly because he was actually
1918
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:17,700
concerned about how cheap some of the
film looked.
1919
02:23:18,000 --> 02:23:21,380
There's a scene in a graveyard with a
polystyrene gravestone, and he was
1920
02:23:21,380 --> 02:23:24,700
that it looked too cheap. There was also
some other props in it he said he was a
1921
02:23:24,700 --> 02:23:25,700
bit worried about.
1922
02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:32,380
It's not my favourite slasher movie, but
it's for fans of early 80s slashers.
1923
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:35,460
You could do a lot, lot worse. Believe
me, you could do a whole lot worse. And
1924
02:23:35,460 --> 02:23:38,220
think we're actually probably looking at
some of these, some others you'll
1925
02:23:38,220 --> 02:23:41,460
probably see some trailers for coming
up. But yeah, The Prowler, a .k .a.
1926
02:23:41,460 --> 02:23:43,660
Rosemary's Killer, is certainly one to
watch.
1927
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:51,180
It was 1945, the night of the graduation
dance.
1928
02:23:52,220 --> 02:23:54,300
The war overseas had just ended.
1929
02:23:57,320 --> 02:24:01,140
The terror at home was about to begin.
1930
02:24:05,000 --> 02:24:06,000
Roy?
1931
02:24:09,980 --> 02:24:10,980
Come on.
1932
02:24:12,660 --> 02:24:14,400
Come on, kid. Don't play hard to get.
1933
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:16,420
What about New Year's Eve?
1934
02:24:17,280 --> 02:24:18,460
Well, that was different.
1935
02:24:18,740 --> 02:24:20,100
I couldn't help myself.
1936
02:24:36,670 --> 02:24:38,930
Tonight, the terror begins again.
1937
02:24:39,470 --> 02:24:41,470
They never found out who did it.
1938
02:24:41,770 --> 02:24:45,670
But it had to be someone in town,
someone who knew that she was called
1939
02:24:45,670 --> 02:24:47,390
Mark, that guy still might be around
here.
1940
02:24:51,450 --> 02:24:54,390
I don't believe this. You're talking
about something that happened over 30
1941
02:24:54,390 --> 02:24:55,390
ago.
1942
02:24:59,850 --> 02:25:03,150
Whenever the time was right, he'd come
back.
1943
02:25:08,010 --> 02:25:12,670
If he wants you, he'll get you.
1944
02:25:41,390 --> 02:25:45,070
Night after night he waited for her.
1945
02:25:52,670 --> 02:25:56,550
If he gets you, you'll wish you were
dead.
1946
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:56,720
Just when you catch your breath, it
starts all over again.
1947
02:27:10,380 --> 02:27:14,600
You may think you're safe, but you're
dead wrong.
1948
02:27:31,029 --> 02:27:37,230
This is Savage Terror, 1979, Indonesian
Cannibals, also called Primitives.
1949
02:27:37,930 --> 02:27:42,710
It's, in some ways, an attempt to be a
serious film that goes very much non
1950
02:27:42,710 --> 02:27:46,910
-serious. The basic plot is you've got a
group of research students who do the
1951
02:27:46,910 --> 02:27:50,350
typical kind of anthropology thing,
where they want to go out and actually
1952
02:27:50,350 --> 02:27:53,110
a new tribe for their research. The
object of the expedition...
1953
02:27:53,530 --> 02:27:56,370
was to come up with some research that
nobody's ever done before. You know,
1954
02:27:56,370 --> 02:27:59,670
-blowing. It's one of the basic ways of
getting ahead in academia. You go out
1955
02:27:59,670 --> 02:28:01,290
and find something nobody else has
found.
1956
02:28:01,730 --> 02:28:03,870
Now, they journey into the jungle.
1957
02:28:04,090 --> 02:28:05,810
Is it possible to go any deeper into the
jungle?
1958
02:28:06,430 --> 02:28:07,430
Yes, it's possible.
1959
02:28:07,870 --> 02:28:09,890
But I advise against it. It can be
dangerous.
1960
02:28:10,250 --> 02:28:14,150
And at first, they end up talking to a
tribe called the Primeval.
1961
02:28:14,370 --> 02:28:16,970
I guess all that means Primeval
Primitives and so forth.
1962
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:20,510
But naturally enough, they decide this
is not enough for them. The tribe's
1963
02:28:20,510 --> 02:28:21,510
already been discovered.
1964
02:28:21,690 --> 02:28:25,070
no big deal all we want to do is go a
little further to see if we can find
1965
02:28:25,070 --> 02:28:31,310
real primitives so what they do is they
bribe their guide to actually go further
1966
02:28:31,310 --> 02:28:36,430
with them into the jungle i take her
deep into the jungle big problem for
1967
02:28:36,430 --> 02:28:40,210
who are supposedly so intelligent they
don't see the big problem with going on
1968
02:28:40,210 --> 02:28:42,150
rock in the middle of a fast -flowing
river
1969
02:28:42,150 --> 02:28:48,830
and they'll get split up
1970
02:28:48,830 --> 02:28:55,360
they come across a particular tribe of
cannibals we found it a primitive tribe
1971
02:28:55,360 --> 02:29:00,820
who evidently rather than being there
for them they claim to as academics
1972
02:29:00,820 --> 02:29:05,360
that they actually look quite yummy at
the time obviously that we are getting
1973
02:29:05,360 --> 02:29:10,800
ready to see a proper bit of gut
munching and so forth we also see the
1974
02:29:10,800 --> 02:29:15,620
they are nevertheless trying to react to
and study these savages you got it you
1975
02:29:15,620 --> 02:29:19,580
got it that's it now you can make
yourself some clothes you know
1976
02:29:20,800 --> 02:29:25,360
One of the interesting things to pull
out about this in particular is a very
1977
02:29:25,360 --> 02:29:28,460
sweet little act of the guy playing
Tommy, Johan Margiono.
1978
02:29:28,780 --> 02:29:32,940
He's also reasonably believable as an
academic in the sense of that he goes
1979
02:29:32,940 --> 02:29:35,660
through a very wide -eyed and he's
trying to see how...
1980
02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:39,340
the tribes are behaving towards him how
much would you give for their chances of
1981
02:29:39,340 --> 02:29:42,660
adapting to modern civilization you
begin to look at the behaviors and it's
1982
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:46,600
actually oddly presented in places as
though it is a proper little bit of
1983
02:29:46,600 --> 02:29:49,780
ethnography you actually see the camera
kind of looking at the way that the
1984
02:29:49,780 --> 02:29:52,900
families interact when they're eating
you see a mother with a baby the
1985
02:29:52,900 --> 02:29:57,420
interesting thing in some ways about
this is the use of the music and the
1986
02:29:57,420 --> 02:30:01,540
angles we have some quite funky
psychedelic bits here particularly in an
1987
02:30:01,540 --> 02:30:03,460
instance where dear old tommy
1988
02:30:04,540 --> 02:30:08,840
stupidly, very stupidly, gets quite
hungry, goes and finds a treat, grabs
1989
02:30:08,840 --> 02:30:13,020
stuff off a tree, necks it, and sure
enough, we've got this kind of weird,
1990
02:30:13,020 --> 02:30:18,000
of disco -y bit going on, and we are,
we've basically shown what he's seeing.
1991
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:26,800
Now, the one thing that's got to be
said, some of those actors deserve
1992
02:30:27,020 --> 02:30:29,820
Why am I saying that? How many different
ways can you find to say, ooh?
1993
02:30:30,640 --> 02:30:32,880
Half of the script consists of very
different oohs.
1994
02:30:33,370 --> 02:30:36,630
And it's interesting that they actually
managed to get some level of tonality
1995
02:30:36,630 --> 02:30:37,630
there.
1996
02:30:40,010 --> 02:30:45,230
To convey shock, surprise or humour and
general yummy that looks fun to eat.
1997
02:30:48,210 --> 02:30:51,250
It does give it a little bit of extra
tone that some films don't have.
1998
02:30:53,630 --> 02:30:57,250
Of course, you might think you've seen
some of this stuff a little bit
1999
02:30:57,250 --> 02:31:00,950
before and you'd be completely right.
The film is basically a little bit of a
2000
02:31:00,950 --> 02:31:01,929
rip -off.
2001
02:31:01,930 --> 02:31:07,010
of last cannibal world okay some of the
scenes in fact are a direct pinch of it
2002
02:31:07,010 --> 02:31:11,610
and naturally enough with things like
cannibal holocaust anything that showed
2003
02:31:11,610 --> 02:31:14,830
people eating people was going to be a
big no -no in terms of section three
2004
02:31:56,270 --> 02:31:57,610
I agreed to take you to the Pangaea.
2005
02:31:58,870 --> 02:32:00,130
Not any deeper into the jungle.
2006
02:32:46,190 --> 02:32:47,190
clothing and I couldn't...
2007
02:34:02,640 --> 02:34:08,300
Scanner, a film that I think we all
love. It comes from that period where
2008
02:34:08,300 --> 02:34:14,540
Cronenberg was graduating out of really
gruesome, exploitative horror pictures.
2009
02:34:15,180 --> 02:34:19,460
Slightly more mainstream. It's a film
that's got its exploding head, but it's
2010
02:34:19,460 --> 02:34:25,580
also got conventional action sequences
and some quite good science fictions of
2011
02:34:25,580 --> 02:34:26,860
mind -stretching ideas.
2012
02:34:27,500 --> 02:34:30,800
Why are you such a derelict?
2013
02:34:31,950 --> 02:34:33,750
Such a piece of human junk.
2014
02:34:36,230 --> 02:34:37,530
The answer's simple.
2015
02:34:38,690 --> 02:34:39,850
You're a scanner.
2016
02:34:40,470 --> 02:34:45,670
And you can see that Cronenberg, of all
the filmmakers who came out of horror in
2017
02:34:45,670 --> 02:34:50,750
the 70s, is the one who wanted to do the
most. He was probably the cleverest.
2018
02:34:51,449 --> 02:34:55,550
He may not have been instinctively the
best filmmaker, but he was always a
2019
02:34:55,550 --> 02:34:59,170
filmmaker. He could turn around and make
fast company if he had to.
2020
02:34:59,430 --> 02:35:02,710
Scanners are all Cronenberg's films.
It's the one that became a franchise.
2021
02:35:03,450 --> 02:35:09,090
There were four sequels. There was a
Scanners 2 and a Scanners 3 and two
2022
02:35:09,090 --> 02:35:10,049
Cop films.
2023
02:35:10,050 --> 02:35:14,190
There was talk of a TV series that never
happened. I'm actually surprised that
2024
02:35:14,190 --> 02:35:18,470
it's not been remade because it's the
kind of thing... Because anything that
2025
02:35:18,470 --> 02:35:19,650
four sequels...
2026
02:35:19,950 --> 02:35:23,330
is well known enough to be, you know,
remakeable.
2027
02:35:23,630 --> 02:35:24,870
And it's a good premise.
2028
02:35:25,090 --> 02:35:27,210
There's stuff there that's still kind of
cool.
2029
02:35:27,450 --> 02:35:33,450
I mean, I suppose it's a bit pre -Matrix
-y or X -Men -y in its idea of, you
2030
02:35:33,450 --> 02:35:37,570
know, telekinetic supermen live among us
and they're feuding.
2031
02:35:38,430 --> 02:35:44,930
And I see bits of it pop up in so many
things. The TV show Heroes seems to me
2032
02:35:44,930 --> 02:35:45,559
owe a...
2033
02:35:45,560 --> 02:35:50,940
big debt to scanners it's also just a
film i like i think i mean it's it's not
2034
02:35:50,940 --> 02:35:54,660
downer in a way that a lot of horror was
then i mean it has a sort of
2035
02:35:54,660 --> 02:36:00,900
transcendent ending um it has michael
ironside in uh and and this was the
2036
02:36:00,900 --> 02:36:06,100
time we noticed michael ironside and it
got him a career you know if he's um
2037
02:36:06,100 --> 02:36:11,640
playing bad guys now it's because he was
in scanners and actually you know he is
2038
02:36:11,640 --> 02:36:18,420
great in it um I'm not so sure about
Stephen Lack, the
2039
02:36:18,420 --> 02:36:23,420
leading guy, who is a bit all over the
place, but it's a kind of difficult
2040
02:36:23,660 --> 02:36:27,920
And Patrick McGowan, who'd been a bit
AWOL since The Prisoner, sort of came
2041
02:36:27,920 --> 02:36:31,580
back, and I think he's really strong in
it as well. It has lots of, you know,
2042
02:36:31,580 --> 02:36:34,680
great confrontational, bizarre, strange
dialogue scenes.
2043
02:36:35,620 --> 02:36:36,620
Ripe.
2044
02:36:37,660 --> 02:36:38,660
Ripe indeed.
2045
02:36:42,540 --> 02:36:43,540
Ripe.
2046
02:36:44,539 --> 02:36:47,040
And then we're back to the exploding
heads.
2047
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:52,720
It's got great exploding head makeup. I
assume the reason that it's on this list
2048
02:36:52,720 --> 02:36:55,840
is the exploding head. And that is one
of those key moments.
2049
02:37:02,060 --> 02:37:07,000
I had a great deal of criticism for all
those campaigners who just took the
2050
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:13,300
bits. out of context from films and
spliced them together to show how
2051
02:37:13,300 --> 02:37:18,640
horror movies were these days but that
one scene in Scanners is
2052
02:37:18,640 --> 02:37:24,840
still for me the best exploding head
that has ever appeared in the cinema
2053
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:31,420
I vividly remember the
2054
02:37:31,420 --> 02:37:36,320
reaction the first time and
2055
02:37:37,130 --> 02:37:42,230
I remember going to see the film a
second time a week later, almost just to
2056
02:37:42,230 --> 02:37:44,910
how the exploding head would play.
2057
02:37:45,570 --> 02:37:51,210
And it was in an era when films were
built around special effects set pieces.
2058
02:37:51,210 --> 02:37:56,210
was an era of The Howling or American
Werewolves, where one good effect was
2059
02:37:56,210 --> 02:37:58,510
enough that you would come out of it.
2060
02:37:58,870 --> 02:38:01,550
Now, you come out of a film and you've
seen...
2061
02:38:02,860 --> 02:38:08,020
two and a half solid hours of special
effects and shrug but then you know one
2062
02:38:08,020 --> 02:38:10,020
good shock was enough
2063
02:38:10,020 --> 02:38:24,880
i
2064
02:38:24,880 --> 02:38:28,180
would like again all of you in this room
one at a time
2065
02:38:29,840 --> 02:38:33,060
I must remind you that the scanning
experience is usually a painful one,
2066
02:38:33,120 --> 02:38:39,140
sometimes resulting in nosebleeds,
earaches, stomach cramps, nausea,
2067
02:38:39,140 --> 02:38:42,020
other symptoms of a similar nature. At
this point, I'd like to call for
2068
02:38:42,020 --> 02:38:43,020
volunteers.
2069
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:53,240
Just sit right here, please.
2070
02:39:03,630 --> 02:39:05,530
No, I'd like you to think of something
specific.
2071
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:08,430
Do I have to close my eyes? It doesn't
matter.
2072
02:39:10,070 --> 02:39:11,690
All right, yes. I have something. Yes.
2073
02:40:27,560 --> 02:40:33,280
Everyone has a boiling point. Then comes
the, ellipsis, scream for vengeance,
2074
02:40:33,360 --> 02:40:35,480
with an explanation mark.
2075
02:40:35,700 --> 02:40:38,800
It's pretty much what you'd expect.
There's a sort of Last House on the Left
2076
02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:39,880
vibe going on here.
2077
02:40:40,120 --> 02:40:45,300
It's about bank robbers who are also
rapists, and they do some bad things to
2078
02:40:45,300 --> 02:40:48,020
some people, and the good guys...
2079
02:40:48,350 --> 02:40:51,690
sort of turn things around and do away
with them.
2080
02:40:51,910 --> 02:40:55,470
This is actual vengeance taking place
here on the cover.
2081
02:40:55,690 --> 02:41:00,670
Scream for vengeance. A brutal story
torn from today's headlines involving
2082
02:41:00,670 --> 02:41:03,790
innocent people at the mercy of sadistic
killers.
2083
02:41:04,150 --> 02:41:09,750
It's one of the most obscure of these
films for justifiable reasons.
2084
02:41:11,230 --> 02:41:15,270
Not anybody would really remember. I
suppose it's...
2085
02:41:16,680 --> 02:41:19,840
It works hard to be kind of queasily
unpleasant.
2086
02:41:20,860 --> 02:41:25,820
It has those villains rather like Last
House on the Left or Fight for Your Life
2087
02:41:25,820 --> 02:41:30,220
or Death Weekend. They work really hard
on coming up with characters who are
2088
02:41:30,220 --> 02:41:35,820
thoroughly depraved and nasty, but they
also seem to be deeply stupid.
2089
02:41:42,570 --> 02:41:47,590
Yeah, they obviously are asking for
trouble, and it's only the fact that the
2090
02:41:47,590 --> 02:41:52,490
people they run into are so generally
feeble that means they get to be evil
2091
02:41:52,490 --> 02:41:53,490
a full hour.
2092
02:41:53,610 --> 02:41:54,610
All right.
2093
02:41:54,970 --> 02:41:59,830
Before the half an hour of screaming
vengeance descends upon them, ending
2094
02:41:59,830 --> 02:42:00,769
reign of terror.
2095
02:42:00,770 --> 02:42:05,650
It's one of those things that's made far
away from the population centres of
2096
02:42:05,650 --> 02:42:07,570
America. Do you have any idea where we
are?
2097
02:42:08,330 --> 02:42:09,330
Well...
2098
02:42:09,630 --> 02:42:11,130
I know it isn't downtown Miami.
2099
02:42:11,370 --> 02:42:14,410
And indeed the talent centres of the
American film industry.
2100
02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:16,250
Are you ever serious?
2101
02:42:16,790 --> 02:42:18,350
Stars people you don't know.
2102
02:42:18,650 --> 02:42:20,310
We've only known each other a few hours.
2103
02:42:21,250 --> 02:42:26,210
Directed by somebody who never seemed to
work again, Bob Blith. Or Bob Blith, as
2104
02:42:26,210 --> 02:42:27,790
he is on his IMDb page.
2105
02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:29,230
No.
2106
02:42:29,730 --> 02:42:31,050
I don't. I don't know.
2107
02:42:31,740 --> 02:42:36,680
It's a release that feels required to
tell you the entire story of the film on
2108
02:42:36,680 --> 02:42:37,519
the back.
2109
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:44,260
This was quite common in the video era,
where they would just take the synopsis
2110
02:42:44,260 --> 02:42:48,000
that was written for the record for the
American Film Institute or the Monthly
2111
02:42:48,000 --> 02:42:50,160
Film Bulletin and glue it here.
2112
02:42:50,380 --> 02:42:54,980
I mean, it doesn't really help if when
you bring the thing home from the video
2113
02:42:54,980 --> 02:42:57,800
rental store, you already know the end
because it's written here.
2114
02:42:58,160 --> 02:42:59,900
But then again...
2115
02:43:00,140 --> 02:43:04,300
Maybe for those of you who watched the
first couple of minutes and then decided
2116
02:43:04,300 --> 02:43:09,580
to fast forward through the walking
around bits between the rape and the
2117
02:43:09,580 --> 02:43:13,520
and the vengeance, it served as a useful
guide.
2118
02:43:13,980 --> 02:43:17,800
Doesn't seem to have had any major
lasting cult appeal.
2119
02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:21,920
Few people may well dimly remember it
from their youth.
2120
02:43:23,260 --> 02:43:28,260
I couldn't honestly say that I
remembered it and I had seen it before.
2121
02:43:29,900 --> 02:43:35,240
I think that this is the sort of thing
that every video shop had loads of
2122
02:43:35,240 --> 02:43:39,920
of films like this and you finally
rented out when everything you'd wanted
2123
02:43:39,920 --> 02:43:40,920
see had gone.
2124
02:43:42,520 --> 02:43:43,840
Scream for vengeance.
2125
02:43:44,040 --> 02:43:49,240
A brutal story torn from today's
headlines involving innocent people at
2126
02:43:49,240 --> 02:43:50,780
mercy of sadistic killers.
2127
02:43:52,860 --> 02:43:56,920
Their only hope for survival, to fight
for their very existence.
2128
02:44:14,920 --> 02:44:16,240
You've been seeing follow -ups.
2129
02:44:41,800 --> 02:44:45,040
Look, we've got to keep moving in a
straight line. We'll get lost. We can't
2130
02:44:45,040 --> 02:44:46,540
outrun them. They're going to kill us.
2131
02:44:46,840 --> 02:44:51,740
Lost, intimidated, assaulted beyond
human limits, and hunted like wild
2132
02:44:52,960 --> 02:44:56,820
Scream for Vengeance, a story of
retribution and revenge.
2133
02:45:05,140 --> 02:45:06,140
Mom!
2134
02:45:06,540 --> 02:45:07,540
Mom!
2135
02:45:07,960 --> 02:45:09,440
Just shut up and stay put.
2136
02:45:09,700 --> 02:45:10,700
Mom!
2137
02:45:13,070 --> 02:45:14,070
Want some more, huh?
2138
02:45:14,630 --> 02:45:15,630
Stop it!
2139
02:45:15,810 --> 02:45:16,810
Kill him!
2140
02:45:18,510 --> 02:45:20,630
That's right, bitch. And you're next.
2141
02:45:55,340 --> 02:45:56,760
Everyone has a boiling point.
2142
02:45:57,280 --> 02:45:58,680
Scream for vengeance.
2143
02:46:15,720 --> 02:46:22,200
Well, here we have Filgrim Assassin,
which is one of the
2144
02:46:22,200 --> 02:46:24,240
greatest exploitation films, I think.
2145
02:46:24,490 --> 02:46:28,790
A lot of people think Shogun Assassin
was on the original Section 2 DPP list,
2146
02:46:28,870 --> 02:46:33,330
but it actually wasn't until later that
it appeared on the Section 3 list. This
2147
02:46:33,330 --> 02:46:37,290
version is directed by Robert Houston,
who actually edited the first two films
2148
02:46:37,290 --> 02:46:39,650
of the Lone Wolf and Cub series.
2149
02:46:40,110 --> 02:46:44,170
In fact, in this film, they only used
the ten minutes of the first film, and
2150
02:46:44,170 --> 02:46:47,370
most of it comes from the second film,
which is The Baby's Cart at the River
2151
02:46:47,370 --> 02:46:50,730
Styx. There's six Lone Wolf and Cub
films.
2152
02:46:51,180 --> 02:46:58,100
Long Wolf and Cup Series is a very long
-running manga, TV series, film series
2153
02:46:58,100 --> 02:46:59,100
in Japan.
2154
02:46:59,160 --> 02:47:05,400
It concerns a samurai and his son who go
on the road defying the shogunate. This
2155
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:10,720
is during the warring clans period of
Japan, obviously, and because he defies
2156
02:47:10,720 --> 02:47:14,080
the shogunate, the shogun sends out all
the clans after him, but the clans are
2157
02:47:14,080 --> 02:47:15,080
into fighting as well.
2158
02:47:15,600 --> 02:47:19,180
Once, he was the greatest of the
magnificent samurai.
2159
02:47:21,140 --> 02:47:26,500
Now he hunts the evil lords who
butchered his wife. But he has enormous
2160
02:47:26,620 --> 02:47:29,080
He's almost better at swordplay than
anyone else.
2161
02:47:29,280 --> 02:47:34,080
And his aim is to walk the path of hell,
bringing destruction wherever he goes.
2162
02:47:34,280 --> 02:47:40,100
But he also ends up helping a lot of
small villages and women and children
2163
02:47:40,100 --> 02:47:43,960
the way. But there's always almost a
lack of morality to the main character.
2164
02:47:44,600 --> 02:47:47,920
For the American version, they've taken
the action scenes of the first two films
2165
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:53,160
and edited them together with a sort of
simplistic narration by supposedly the
2166
02:47:53,160 --> 02:47:54,240
son of the ninja.
2167
02:47:54,660 --> 02:47:56,560
But my father can't help it.
2168
02:47:58,860 --> 02:48:02,700
Sometimes he gets lost in the past.
2169
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:08,700
They also take out all the interwarring
clan stuff. They just say the shogun.
2170
02:48:10,890 --> 02:48:15,010
So whenever you see actually who's the
leader of the Shadow Clan in the
2171
02:48:15,010 --> 02:48:16,270
film, they just say the Shogun.
2172
02:48:16,850 --> 02:48:20,990
But it moves fantastically because the
film itself is so beautifully
2173
02:48:20,990 --> 02:48:23,630
choreographed. The violence is almost
operatic.
2174
02:48:29,270 --> 02:48:32,970
There's gazes of blood just floating
everywhere, but it's all long take.
2175
02:48:33,270 --> 02:48:39,450
And it is very deliberate, almost
balletic action. When there's a sword
2176
02:48:39,530 --> 02:48:44,180
it's... doesn't last long the plot in
the original is very traditional to the
2177
02:48:44,180 --> 02:48:48,920
jideki genre but the american version is
obviously a very speeded up version
2178
02:48:48,920 --> 02:48:55,900
because they've just taken the action
american actress and comedian
2179
02:48:55,900 --> 02:49:02,220
sandra bernhard did one of the voices
for the film also robert houston got
2180
02:49:02,220 --> 02:49:07,760
people to come and suggest lines by
reading the lip movements of the
2181
02:49:07,760 --> 02:49:12,720
actors so that they would think better,
which works to a degree. Some of the
2182
02:49:12,720 --> 02:49:16,140
bits actually look like they're saying
it. I agree.
2183
02:49:16,780 --> 02:49:22,360
The music was actually composed for the
American version. It's credited as the
2184
02:49:22,360 --> 02:49:27,940
Wonderland Philharmonic, but it was
actually one chap doing it in the Howe
2185
02:49:27,940 --> 02:49:28,940
Holmes studio.
2186
02:49:29,070 --> 02:49:32,350
It uses some of the themes from the
original, but it's generally more synth
2187
02:49:32,350 --> 02:49:33,350
-based.
2188
02:49:36,270 --> 02:49:41,570
No surprises on the Section 3 list,
because the violence is at a level that
2189
02:49:41,570 --> 02:49:43,210
UK probably hadn't seen.
2190
02:49:43,430 --> 02:49:46,010
The blood just flows freely for minutes
at end.
2191
02:49:46,310 --> 02:49:47,550
And there's also...
2192
02:49:47,960 --> 02:49:51,640
the fact that the lead character always
travels with his child, and the child
2193
02:49:51,640 --> 02:49:55,980
gets involved in this sword fight. The
baby cart is well equipped with knives,
2194
02:49:56,200 --> 02:50:00,440
and in one instance, he's rolled down
the hill, and he operates the knife to
2195
02:50:00,440 --> 02:50:04,120
take out the ankles of these ninjas that
are running towards them. And you see
2196
02:50:04,120 --> 02:50:06,940
in graphic detail, the ankles split and
coming off.
2197
02:50:07,360 --> 02:50:11,520
I'm sure that didn't bode well, and
there's a scene where the child is hung
2198
02:50:11,520 --> 02:50:15,900
harness and then dropped into a well
really fast, which probably panicked all
2199
02:50:15,900 --> 02:50:17,040
the moral guardians out there.
2200
02:50:25,550 --> 02:50:28,970
Return to the vanished kingdoms of
ancient times.
2201
02:50:35,350 --> 02:50:41,470
Journey through a lost empire of mad
wizards and
2202
02:50:41,470 --> 02:50:44,390
barbaric passions.
2203
02:50:47,430 --> 02:50:52,830
Behold the saga of a legendary warrior,
a loving father,
2204
02:50:53,960 --> 02:50:58,700
who has the power of a dozen armies in
one sweep of his mystic blade.
2205
02:51:00,020 --> 02:51:05,960
This is a story of honor, disgrace,
vengeance,
2206
02:51:06,140 --> 02:51:12,100
massacre,
2207
02:51:12,360 --> 02:51:17,640
and a man who became a demon.
2208
02:51:18,600 --> 02:51:19,760
Shogun Assassin.
2209
02:51:22,180 --> 02:51:25,960
Once, He was the greatest of the
magnificent samurai.
2210
02:51:27,260 --> 02:51:33,660
Now, he hunts the evil lords who
butchered his wife and stained his
2211
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:41,800
One man and one child defy the most
notorious masters of
2212
02:51:41,800 --> 02:51:43,200
death on the planet.
2213
02:51:45,800 --> 02:51:50,240
Like father, like son.
2214
02:51:51,610 --> 02:51:54,710
Meet the greatest team in the history of
mass slaughter.
2215
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:05,950
Nothing on Earth can match their
infernal fury.
2216
02:52:07,190 --> 02:52:13,950
Nothing on the screen can match this
awesome spectacle of sword and sorcery.
2217
02:52:45,740 --> 02:52:52,240
So this film is Street Killers, also
called Beast with a Gun. And this film
2218
02:52:52,240 --> 02:52:59,160
is a wonderful example of a 70s Italian
gangster film and it
2219
02:52:59,160 --> 02:53:01,050
has... Helmut Berger. Yes.
2220
02:53:01,470 --> 02:53:06,450
Or Berger, depending on how you say it,
who is this Conti's favourite psychopath
2221
02:53:06,450 --> 02:53:12,530
as this extraordinarily beautiful Aryan
demigod with the piercing blue eyes and
2222
02:53:12,530 --> 02:53:16,010
the blonde hair. And of course, as we
know, the prettier you are, the crazier
2223
02:53:16,010 --> 02:53:17,010
you are.
2224
02:53:18,290 --> 02:53:23,730
Hold it. Richard Harrison plays the
buff, thick as two planks.
2225
02:53:24,090 --> 02:53:28,930
uh police inspector who really tries
very hard to be the enigmatic italian
2226
02:53:28,930 --> 02:53:33,850
that fails abominably i practically ran
into the gang during the breakout i
2227
02:53:33,850 --> 02:53:38,590
followed but lost them and it ends up
being a kind of who's sexier who's
2228
02:53:38,590 --> 02:53:43,570
spunkier who's buffer hot off between
him and helmet burger by the end of it
2229
02:53:43,570 --> 02:53:50,310
well look who it is so nice to see you
inspector santini you're a filthy hyena
2230
02:53:50,830 --> 02:53:54,910
The film has Marissa Mell as the main
female character, and she was in Danger,
2231
02:53:55,070 --> 02:53:56,810
Diabolique, and One on Top of the Other.
2232
02:53:57,010 --> 02:53:59,690
And so she carries off the role
beautifully.
2233
02:54:00,010 --> 02:54:01,010
The police.
2234
02:54:01,810 --> 02:54:03,890
Police are looking for Barbadeschi,
haven't you heard?
2235
02:54:04,250 --> 02:54:08,110
The relationship that she develops with
the mad killer is actually a very
2236
02:54:08,110 --> 02:54:11,850
interesting one because obviously she
begins as the victim, but there's a very
2237
02:54:11,850 --> 02:54:16,530
strange, enigmatic kind of amour -fou
that starts to begin to develop between
2238
02:54:16,530 --> 02:54:20,290
them that is then interceded by Richard
Harris and then it ends up at the end
2239
02:54:20,290 --> 02:54:25,970
with some pseudo -incest with another
couple. So there's a lot of very
2240
02:54:25,970 --> 02:54:32,060
dynamic... triangle going on. It's a
film of many triangles and of course
2241
02:54:32,060 --> 02:54:33,120
keeps it interesting.
2242
02:54:40,920 --> 02:54:44,960
Possibly one of the early scenes could
have been the reason why the film was
2243
02:54:44,960 --> 02:54:50,720
threatened to be put on the list and
this is where Helmut Berger gets his
2244
02:54:50,720 --> 02:54:57,220
to kill a man by pouring lime all over
him and then burying him and then He
2245
02:54:57,220 --> 02:54:58,440
rapes the man's wife.
2246
02:54:58,720 --> 02:55:04,960
But it's a very strange thing because
he's clearly, it's the least rapey rape
2247
02:55:04,960 --> 02:55:09,420
scene. He's got his trousers completely
up and he keeps kind of randomly
2248
02:55:09,420 --> 02:55:14,100
fumbling with a general area that may be
or may not be penile. He's humping her
2249
02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:15,620
legs kind of like a dog would do.
2250
02:55:17,100 --> 02:55:22,140
But more importantly, he is most
obsessed with making sure that his gang
2251
02:55:22,140 --> 02:55:24,440
seeing him and seeing what he's doing.
2252
02:55:24,660 --> 02:55:30,640
So the whole scene is very much about
attention being focused on to be seen to
2253
02:55:30,640 --> 02:55:35,100
be raping this woman. And there is a
sense, as there is in all gang rape
2254
02:55:35,100 --> 02:55:40,000
in most films, this homoerotics, that
actually this is a film and this is a
2255
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:45,240
scene where it's men wanting to show
their virility to other men and where
2256
02:55:45,240 --> 02:55:46,240
they're not actually...
2257
02:55:46,380 --> 02:55:50,740
raping women because they hate women
although clearly they do but they are
2258
02:55:50,740 --> 02:55:53,980
raping women because they are trying to
have some kind of homoerotic bond with
2259
02:55:53,980 --> 02:55:59,160
the other men that they're in the
situation with and so when watching this
2260
02:55:59,160 --> 02:56:04,140
initially this is what i was thinking
about Far, far later in the film there
2261
02:56:04,140 --> 02:56:08,320
some very interesting and nuanced
indications that he is actually a
2262
02:56:08,320 --> 02:56:12,740
and that his psychotic tendencies may be
coming from some kind of repressed
2263
02:56:12,740 --> 02:56:19,000
homosexual feelings towards a very
handsome young rent boy that has become
2264
02:56:19,000 --> 02:56:20,000
partner in crime.
2265
02:56:20,060 --> 02:56:25,140
It's an enigmatic little film and I
think that certainly both in its
2266
02:56:25,660 --> 02:56:31,280
and in all of the little nuanced,
niggling, psychological peccadilloes
2267
02:56:31,280 --> 02:56:37,960
shows in all of its characters, it does
have an enigmatic element for people who
2268
02:56:37,960 --> 02:56:42,200
enjoy that kind of Italian -iness in
films that you can't really put your
2269
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:43,200
on.
2270
02:56:49,040 --> 02:56:55,220
One strange little emergence that this
film had was in Quentin Tarantino's
2271
02:56:55,220 --> 02:57:00,700
Jackie Brown, where the film is playing
on the television in Bridget Fonda's
2272
02:57:00,700 --> 02:57:01,700
house.
2273
02:57:33,119 --> 02:57:34,720
Yes. I'm going to kill your friend.
2274
02:57:35,060 --> 02:57:37,100
And I'll do it very, very slow.
2275
02:57:37,440 --> 02:57:38,700
I'm going to inflict much pain.
2276
02:57:39,860 --> 02:57:42,880
You're going to hear a guy beg for his
life, lady, because he betrayed Nanni
2277
02:57:42,880 --> 02:57:43,880
Vitale.
2278
02:57:44,060 --> 02:57:45,060
That's the car I want.
2279
02:57:50,080 --> 02:57:51,080
Don't worry.
2280
02:57:51,260 --> 02:57:52,780
There will be no bloodshed.
2281
02:58:00,340 --> 02:58:01,340
Don't worry.
2282
02:58:01,900 --> 02:58:03,140
There will be no bloodshed.
2283
02:58:15,640 --> 02:58:16,640
Police!
2284
02:58:17,420 --> 02:58:18,540
The police!
2285
02:58:21,080 --> 02:58:25,000
You afraid
2286
02:58:25,000 --> 02:58:30,900
of me?
2287
02:58:31,420 --> 02:58:32,420
Are you?
2288
02:58:32,720 --> 02:58:33,720
Let her alone.
2289
02:58:33,900 --> 02:58:34,980
You're not afraid of me?
2290
02:58:35,240 --> 02:58:37,500
No, let me go. Let me go.
2291
02:58:37,800 --> 02:58:38,800
Hold it.
2292
02:58:40,480 --> 02:58:42,440
Take the girls along. We'll need them as
hostages.
2293
02:58:43,900 --> 02:58:45,280
Inspector Santini.
2294
02:58:48,760 --> 02:58:52,780
So nice to see you, Inspector Santini.
2295
02:58:57,940 --> 02:58:59,920
What are you shooting for, you crazy?
2296
02:59:00,480 --> 02:59:03,720
I'm sorry I lost my temper. You're lucky
you don't get a bullet in the brain.
2297
02:59:04,080 --> 02:59:05,080
Check outside.
2298
02:59:05,460 --> 02:59:07,120
I told you, no one ever comes here.
2299
03:00:09,220 --> 03:00:12,700
Okay, so we have Suicide Cult here by
James Glickenhaus.
2300
03:00:13,340 --> 03:00:17,420
And what the hell is going on in this
one? Very, very confusing film. Very
2301
03:00:17,420 --> 03:00:21,860
ambitious film. Feels like a big -budget
movie that's been squashed into a low
2302
03:00:21,860 --> 03:00:25,980
-budget in some way. Or a low -budget
movie that couldn't quite sustain
2303
03:00:26,460 --> 03:00:30,460
We are now able, using computers, to
accurately determine an individual's
2304
03:00:30,460 --> 03:00:34,480
zodiacal potential for response to
environmental situations and stimuli.
2305
03:00:34,960 --> 03:00:38,860
Very, very ambitious subject matter. The
narrative is spread over several
2306
03:00:38,860 --> 03:00:39,819
different continents.
2307
03:00:39,820 --> 03:00:44,520
There's action going on in Europe, in
India and in the USA.
2308
03:00:44,840 --> 03:00:47,980
It has the hallmarks of a film that ran
into production difficulties.
2309
03:00:48,580 --> 03:00:53,260
Someone is exerting a strong hold over
you, preventing you from telling the
2310
03:00:53,260 --> 03:00:56,120
truth. We must strip away your pretense.
2311
03:00:56,460 --> 03:00:58,920
Go behind that screen and take off your
clothes.
2312
03:00:59,470 --> 03:01:02,790
It's only 72 minutes long and yet it
still feels like it hasn't quite managed
2313
03:01:02,790 --> 03:01:07,090
tell its story. The first credit that
you get at the end is the editor, which
2314
03:01:07,090 --> 03:01:11,210
kind of a shorthand for this was hard to
cut together. So I'd be intrigued to
2315
03:01:11,210 --> 03:01:14,850
know the full story of this film and we
don't know it. Jim Glickenhouse, who
2316
03:01:14,850 --> 03:01:19,110
went on to make The Exterminator, a
very, very successful vigilante movie,
2317
03:01:19,110 --> 03:01:21,750
never really discussed this film and
apparently doesn't really like to
2318
03:01:21,750 --> 03:01:25,050
this film's full story. It's a shame
because Suicide Cult is a very, very
2319
03:01:25,050 --> 03:01:26,050
strange film.
2320
03:01:26,200 --> 03:01:30,500
It's almost a sort of a 14 times sort of
area of interest that we're dealing
2321
03:01:30,500 --> 03:01:34,120
with here. It's essentially kind of
mystics in the CIA is the kind of vibe.
2322
03:01:34,240 --> 03:01:38,560
There's a branch of the American
government who are exploring the use of
2323
03:01:38,560 --> 03:01:43,300
astrology to predict people of great
potential for good or great potential
2324
03:01:43,300 --> 03:01:50,160
evil. The film is about
2325
03:01:50,160 --> 03:01:55,020
attempts to establish the astrological
birth record of the Virgin Mary so as to
2326
03:01:55,020 --> 03:01:59,810
predict... the next birth of Christ or
the second coming. If I had that
2327
03:01:59,810 --> 03:02:05,150
document, I could pinpoint the Virgin
Mary's birth date to the exact hour.
2328
03:02:05,990 --> 03:02:08,650
Wembley, you're going to have that
document one way or the other.
2329
03:02:08,910 --> 03:02:13,850
So many interesting and unusual ideas
that it juggles with but can't quite
2330
03:02:13,850 --> 03:02:16,990
together into a coherent whole. Do you
know your own didactical potential?
2331
03:02:17,570 --> 03:02:20,870
No, I don't. I never punched it in. I
don't want to know.
2332
03:02:21,110 --> 03:02:25,000
It feels as if... The same director
would have made a better film of it
2333
03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:28,320
five, six years later, with a bit more
experience down the line.
2334
03:02:28,660 --> 03:02:35,240
Because of me, we can now wiretap
directly into a man's soul, and all we
2335
03:02:35,240 --> 03:02:36,240
know is his birthday.
2336
03:02:36,920 --> 03:02:43,020
I'm not a devotee of astrology by a long
shot, and yet I enjoy seeing a film
2337
03:02:43,020 --> 03:02:48,060
that takes such a, what is essentially,
to my mind, a crackpot premise, and then
2338
03:02:48,060 --> 03:02:49,340
perfuse it relentlessly.
2339
03:02:49,680 --> 03:02:55,050
The old astrologers and the daily...
Horror scopers expect everyone to have a
2340
03:02:55,050 --> 03:02:58,690
destiny. They just don't realise that
the average astrological configuration
2341
03:02:58,690 --> 03:03:00,050
extremely balanced, almost neutral.
2342
03:03:00,750 --> 03:03:02,790
I can't think of any other films that
have got that plot.
2343
03:03:03,590 --> 03:03:05,810
So it really is kind of going out on its
own.
2344
03:03:06,030 --> 03:03:10,050
So it deserves full marks for
originality, even if the project seems
2345
03:03:10,050 --> 03:03:11,990
escaped and run out of control.
2346
03:03:12,730 --> 03:03:15,210
The producer is a guy called Mark
Buntsman.
2347
03:03:15,550 --> 03:03:19,690
He's also playing the lead villain of
the film, a mystic called Kershurst.
2348
03:03:20,280 --> 03:03:25,620
who is living in india as a kind of
almost like a manson -esque kind of cult
2349
03:03:25,620 --> 03:03:30,060
leader and he's quite frightening
actually do you really think alexei
2350
03:03:30,060 --> 03:03:34,720
that a tribal outlaw with a few
followers is going to take over the
2351
03:03:34,720 --> 03:03:39,580
really solid performance there's a theme
in the film where a cia operative or an
2352
03:03:39,580 --> 03:03:43,610
american government operative whose job
it is to try and enter the villain's
2353
03:03:43,610 --> 03:03:46,750
dreams. After we finish the videotape,
we're going to play it through
2354
03:03:46,750 --> 03:03:49,490
which will temporarily glue to Kajur's
skull.
2355
03:03:49,930 --> 03:03:52,570
You know, I said it was ambitious, yeah?
With any luck, he'll confuse the
2356
03:03:52,570 --> 03:03:54,190
videotape with the day's real events.
2357
03:03:54,610 --> 03:03:57,930
She goes to India and he wills her to
death.
2358
03:03:58,440 --> 03:04:01,760
once he works out that that's what he's
trying to do. So it's like a battle of
2359
03:04:01,760 --> 03:04:03,880
worlds between different mythical
forces.
2360
03:04:04,460 --> 03:04:06,140
Stay with me forever, Rob.
2361
03:04:11,380 --> 03:04:14,440
Not really sure if it's going to win
very many converts.
2362
03:04:14,680 --> 03:04:18,340
One day, if it ever turned up on DVD in
a decent transfer, I think people might
2363
03:04:18,340 --> 03:04:19,340
look again.
2364
03:04:19,940 --> 03:04:22,800
But it certainly deserves points for
going off the map.
2365
03:04:23,100 --> 03:04:24,900
I haven't the faintest idea.
2366
03:04:25,610 --> 03:04:29,650
why it's called Suicide Cult, doesn't
really have anything much to do with the
2367
03:04:29,650 --> 03:04:34,030
film. It suggests a kind of a Jim Jones
set -up, and the Kajers character does
2368
03:04:34,030 --> 03:04:38,510
have elements of Jim Jones and Manson.
It was based on a sort of a potboiler
2369
03:04:38,510 --> 03:04:42,270
paperback called The Astrologer, which
came out in the early 70s, and the
2370
03:04:42,270 --> 03:04:45,450
original title for the film was The
Astrologer. This film...
2371
03:04:45,790 --> 03:04:48,670
As I say, it shows all the signs of
having been cut together in a bit of a
2372
03:04:48,670 --> 03:04:53,690
panic. Transitions between scenes look a
little nervy and unfocused because it
2373
03:04:53,690 --> 03:04:58,190
keeps jumping from set -up to set -up
using colourisation to affect the image
2374
03:04:58,190 --> 03:05:01,390
a way that makes you think, there's no
need for this. It's like a stylistic
2375
03:05:01,390 --> 03:05:04,670
device that's been added by the editor
and the people in the post -production
2376
03:05:04,670 --> 03:05:07,470
saying, we've got to find some way of
making this cohere.
2377
03:05:08,790 --> 03:05:12,630
They haven't entirely succeeded, but
still, it's an interesting movie and a
2378
03:05:12,630 --> 03:05:16,870
curious, almost... kind of Oliver Stone
gets mystical sort of plot, which
2379
03:05:16,870 --> 03:05:18,250
deserves a bit of attention.
2380
03:05:23,670 --> 03:05:30,510
I think the
2381
03:05:30,510 --> 03:05:34,450
reason why it's attracted some negative
attention from people wishing to censor
2382
03:05:34,450 --> 03:05:38,630
these kinds of movies may be just that
the title rang alarm bells because of
2383
03:05:38,630 --> 03:05:39,630
idea of there being...
2384
03:05:40,140 --> 03:05:45,660
echoes of the you know the then quite
recent jim jones uh case and also there
2385
03:05:45,660 --> 03:05:50,100
are times in the film where you see what
i think are special effects recreations
2386
03:05:50,100 --> 03:05:54,440
of dead bodies which in the film were
presented as real like mondo footage
2387
03:05:54,440 --> 03:05:57,480
but maybe that's the other reason as
well maybe maybe whoever watched it
2388
03:05:57,480 --> 03:06:01,620
that they were looking at real kind of
mondo style footage of corpses and that
2389
03:06:01,620 --> 03:06:07,320
might have added to the problem if i had
that document
2390
03:06:08,120 --> 03:06:12,220
I could pinpoint the Virgin Mary's birth
date to the exact hour.
2391
03:06:12,960 --> 03:06:15,720
Wembley, you're going to have that
document one way or the other.
2392
03:06:16,420 --> 03:06:17,420
Very soon.
2393
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:24,320
We are now able, using computers, to
accurately determine an individual's
2394
03:06:24,320 --> 03:06:28,320
zodiacal potential for response to
environmental situations and stimuli.
2395
03:06:29,220 --> 03:06:34,180
Kajur's zodiacal potential is so high
that he must dominate others. He has no
2396
03:06:34,180 --> 03:06:35,180
choice.
2397
03:06:35,450 --> 03:06:39,970
His activities have included ritualistic
mutilations and public deploration
2398
03:06:39,970 --> 03:06:44,430
ceremonies. Do you really think Alexei
believes that a tribal outlaw with a few
2399
03:06:44,430 --> 03:06:46,370
followers is going to take over the
world?
2400
03:06:46,710 --> 03:06:50,450
There has to be an answer. There is an
answer, Kate. You just have to believe
2401
03:06:50,450 --> 03:06:54,350
me. So Kate has the same zodiacal
potential as the Virgin Mary.
2402
03:06:54,810 --> 03:06:57,790
The child who's waiting to be born.
2403
03:06:58,590 --> 03:07:02,410
I honestly didn't do anything to the boy
that could have possibly gotten me
2404
03:07:02,410 --> 03:07:03,410
pregnant.
2405
03:07:04,170 --> 03:07:07,550
I had to know the truth about the virgin
birth. That's why I couldn't sleep with
2406
03:07:07,550 --> 03:07:08,550
her.
2407
03:08:08,210 --> 03:08:13,770
Superstition, aka The Witch, is one of a
run of early 80s films on demonic
2408
03:08:13,770 --> 03:08:19,330
themes. It's the old favourite, you
know, the witch who is done to death in
2409
03:08:19,330 --> 03:08:26,310
Puritan times, who manifests to avenge
herself on the community that did her
2410
03:08:26,310 --> 03:08:27,950
in. I will not die!
2411
03:08:28,670 --> 03:08:29,670
Cut the rope!
2412
03:08:31,030 --> 03:08:36,430
In theory, going after the descendants
of the Witchfinders.
2413
03:08:36,940 --> 03:08:42,560
in practice just killing whoever else
happens to wander through mostly in
2414
03:08:42,560 --> 03:08:47,980
gruesome ways involving telekinesis in
that sort of Omidy kind of stuff.
2415
03:08:51,220 --> 03:08:54,780
It's got some fairly tough gritty
gruesome things in it.
2416
03:08:55,500 --> 03:08:57,620
It's a reasonably watchable little
picture actually.
2417
03:09:01,800 --> 03:09:04,120
It's one of those movies that makes a
great trailer.
2418
03:09:04,480 --> 03:09:05,980
Will anyone survive?
2419
03:09:08,600 --> 03:09:13,600
Yeah, you will find this trailer
probably gives you all you need from the
2420
03:09:13,620 --> 03:09:15,220
It's got all the best bits in it.
2421
03:09:15,480 --> 03:09:18,120
The victims who died were the lucky
ones.
2422
03:09:18,420 --> 03:09:24,240
It's a film that I think I would lump in
with Evil Freak, you know, in terms of
2423
03:09:24,240 --> 03:09:27,020
demonic action from the early 80s.
2424
03:09:37,000 --> 03:09:38,780
Doesn't star anybody in particular.
2425
03:09:39,000 --> 03:09:40,320
Stacey Keech's dad is in it.
2426
03:09:41,820 --> 03:09:46,320
Directed by James Robeson, who made an
early non -funny film about the American
2427
03:09:46,320 --> 03:09:47,800
cannibal Alfred Packer.
2428
03:09:48,460 --> 03:09:52,140
And that's kind of about it. It did get
a theatrical release.
2429
03:09:52,620 --> 03:09:57,800
It's hard to confirm at this late date,
but it seems possible that it came out
2430
03:09:57,800 --> 03:10:02,420
on video and did reasonably well, and
then they put it in cinemas, or in very
2431
03:10:02,420 --> 03:10:03,420
few cinemas.
2432
03:10:04,120 --> 03:10:07,360
Sneakily changing the name, so if you
were one of those suckers who'd already
2433
03:10:07,360 --> 03:10:12,000
seen it, you know, a superstition, you
had to pay to see it again as the witch.
2434
03:10:17,820 --> 03:10:18,820
A ghost.
2435
03:10:19,880 --> 03:10:21,060
It's haunted, they say.
2436
03:10:22,700 --> 03:10:23,700
I'm scared.
2437
03:10:26,220 --> 03:10:32,660
Two kids were killed out there.
2438
03:10:32,880 --> 03:10:35,060
One kid was gutted and slashed to death.
2439
03:10:35,260 --> 03:10:36,260
He had a microwave.
2440
03:10:37,300 --> 03:10:38,540
There was a warning.
2441
03:10:38,900 --> 03:10:40,480
There are many houses on this
foundation.
2442
03:10:40,840 --> 03:10:43,260
All of them and their tenants come to
bad ends.
2443
03:10:45,820 --> 03:10:47,760
And only one man listened.
2444
03:10:48,040 --> 03:10:49,400
When did this violence begin?
2445
03:10:49,760 --> 03:10:50,820
There was a legend.
2446
03:10:51,300 --> 03:10:52,300
We want justice!
2447
03:11:02,990 --> 03:11:04,050
Only one man believed.
2448
03:11:04,470 --> 03:11:05,630
Am I too late? Has it already started?
2449
03:11:09,610 --> 03:11:14,090
There is a superstition. And will anyone
survive?
2450
03:11:46,290 --> 03:11:50,890
Superstition. The victims who died were
the lucky ones.
2451
03:11:52,710 --> 03:11:53,710
Superstition.
2452
03:12:11,820 --> 03:12:16,020
Here's the ticket for the actual
original press show of Dario Argento's
2453
03:12:16,020 --> 03:12:19,600
Suspiria. One of the films that actually
changed my life.
2454
03:12:20,280 --> 03:12:25,100
From this moment on, I was a devoted
Argento fan, even though I'd seen the
2455
03:12:25,100 --> 03:12:28,560
Animal Trilogy and all his other
jallows. But this led me to actually
2456
03:12:28,560 --> 03:12:35,040
him and eventually writing the book on
him. You're missing more terrifying than
2457
03:12:35,040 --> 03:12:38,220
the last 12 minutes of Suspiria.
2458
03:12:39,480 --> 03:12:40,600
Father first.
2459
03:12:42,119 --> 03:12:45,520
19. Suspiria, of course, is one of the
greatest horror movies ever made.
2460
03:12:45,760 --> 03:12:49,100
It's listed in so many top tens. It's
certainly in mine.
2461
03:12:49,600 --> 03:12:56,260
Here's the original Thorny M .I. video
box with, strangely enough, a very, very
2462
03:12:56,260 --> 03:13:02,260
erudite review by Alexander Walker on
the back. That gives it a bit of cred.
2463
03:13:02,360 --> 03:13:05,360
They obviously wanted to go for more
than just the horror crowd with this
2464
03:13:06,160 --> 03:13:10,440
What can I tell you about this movie?
It's quite short because Deep Red had
2465
03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:11,500
suffered so many cuts.
2466
03:13:11,760 --> 03:13:16,220
It was co -written by Dario and Daria
Nicolodi, although she's not in it
2467
03:13:16,220 --> 03:13:19,780
she hated the fact he took the credits
so much that she walked off the movie.
2468
03:13:19,920 --> 03:13:23,800
Because there is a bit of a controversy
about where exactly the story comes
2469
03:13:23,800 --> 03:13:28,060
from. I mean, is it Daria Nicolodi's
grandmother who actually said she
2470
03:13:28,060 --> 03:13:29,860
a school for witchcraft in Germany?
2471
03:13:30,140 --> 03:13:31,700
Is it a story that...
2472
03:13:31,920 --> 03:13:35,820
Darry was told by his grandmother about
witches working in schools.
2473
03:13:36,650 --> 03:13:41,770
Whatever the case, it comes together
brilliantly well, all wrapped around
2474
03:13:41,770 --> 03:13:46,150
De Quincey's Confessions of an Opium
Eater's Three Mothers Tale, and this
2475
03:13:46,170 --> 03:13:50,650
of course, is about Metis Asperiorum. I
think this has got the best opening 15
2476
03:13:50,650 --> 03:13:53,710
minutes of any horror film you could
ever have seen.
2477
03:13:54,350 --> 03:13:59,510
Dario, would you tell me that it opened
like a major horror film would close,
2478
03:13:59,710 --> 03:14:02,190
because that way you never knew what was
going to come next.
2479
03:14:02,750 --> 03:14:04,370
Jessica Harper is the star.
2480
03:14:04,890 --> 03:14:08,770
She was in it solely because Dario had
seen her in Brian De Palma's Phantom of
2481
03:14:08,770 --> 03:14:09,970
the Paradise and loved her.
2482
03:14:10,430 --> 03:14:13,950
Just said to her, can you sort of like
fake being a ballet dancer? She said,
2483
03:14:13,990 --> 03:14:15,830
sure. And so she was in it.
2484
03:14:16,110 --> 03:14:20,970
She told me that she wanted to be a part
of it because it had such strong female
2485
03:14:20,970 --> 03:14:25,190
roles. There's a Leader Valley in it.
There's Joan Bennett in it. She was
2486
03:14:25,190 --> 03:14:26,089
Lang's widow.
2487
03:14:26,090 --> 03:14:28,430
Fritz Lang being one of Dario's big
heroes.
2488
03:14:28,770 --> 03:14:30,750
And they're very, very strong
characters.
2489
03:14:32,600 --> 03:14:36,860
Dario is often sort of accused of being
misogynist, but really, when you look at
2490
03:14:36,860 --> 03:14:40,940
his work, he did write some amazing
parts for some very, very strong women.
2491
03:14:41,620 --> 03:14:43,740
I had no idea you were so strong
-willed.
2492
03:14:44,680 --> 03:14:48,700
I see that when you make up your mind
about something, nothing will change it
2493
03:14:48,700 --> 03:14:49,619
for you.
2494
03:14:49,620 --> 03:14:53,620
Originally, the plan was to have all the
actors as about 14, 15 years old, but
2495
03:14:53,620 --> 03:14:57,260
the Italian distributor said, no, you
can't have that, you've got to make them
2496
03:14:57,260 --> 03:15:01,340
teenagers or early 20s. But that's the
reason why the production design is the
2497
03:15:01,340 --> 03:15:06,020
way it is. All the door handles are
quite high up to reduce the actual
2498
03:15:06,020 --> 03:15:09,260
characters down, so they do look like
children in a fairy tale.
2499
03:15:09,880 --> 03:15:14,220
Snow White, Disney's version of Snow
White, is what Darius always said,
2500
03:15:14,220 --> 03:15:15,220
him on to do this movie.
2501
03:15:15,680 --> 03:15:17,560
This, of course, is famous for its look.
2502
03:15:18,260 --> 03:15:22,620
Luciano Tolloli's wonderful photography,
which was all lights bouncing on
2503
03:15:22,620 --> 03:15:27,540
mirrors, to really, really heighten the
blacks, the golds, and the three
2504
03:15:27,540 --> 03:15:31,740
colours, the blues, the greens, the
reds. It is one of the most
2505
03:15:31,740 --> 03:15:36,400
-looking movies ever made, I think, and
a total masterpiece, which is why...
2506
03:15:36,700 --> 03:15:40,500
all this stuff about a remake being done
is nonsense because you can never
2507
03:15:40,500 --> 03:15:45,860
replicate this look i mean the story is
nothing special uh you know a ballerina
2508
03:15:45,860 --> 03:15:50,880
goes to black forest time gets involved
in a witch's coven um anyone can do that
2509
03:15:50,880 --> 03:15:55,840
it's the look and the feel of the film
and goblin soundtrack is one of the best
2510
03:15:55,840 --> 03:16:00,400
ever how beautiful is that i mean they
actually did act to some of it already
2511
03:16:00,400 --> 03:16:05,820
pre -recorded on set and you can really
tell that you really get a real palpable
2512
03:16:05,820 --> 03:16:09,880
feeling of dread and i think that's one
of the reasons why this film works so
2513
03:16:09,880 --> 03:16:15,640
well you can hide from suspiria i
2514
03:16:15,640 --> 03:16:22,560
mean clearly it was
2515
03:16:22,560 --> 03:16:26,910
going to cause problems i mean There's
so many versions of the early part of
2516
03:16:26,910 --> 03:16:31,370
this movie. I mean, the heart being
exposed, how many stabs in the heart.
2517
03:16:32,010 --> 03:16:36,110
So that would have, I think, drawn
attention to the Section 3 listings.
2518
03:16:36,770 --> 03:16:43,130
But to everyone who knows anything about
horror, Suspira is a total masterpiece
2519
03:16:43,130 --> 03:16:48,250
and one of the best of all time. I've
attended many premieres in Rome of
2520
03:16:48,250 --> 03:16:52,130
films, and he's always exactly the same.
He's sort of like...
2521
03:16:52,520 --> 03:16:55,920
drives round the corner of the cinema,
keeps driving, making sure everything's
2522
03:16:55,920 --> 03:17:00,420
OK to calm his nerves. He gets out of
the car, he comes up to the cinema, he
2523
03:17:00,420 --> 03:17:05,620
goes back, he's a bundle of nerves. But
for the first time he told me that that
2524
03:17:05,620 --> 03:17:09,980
actually never was an issue with him,
was with Suspiria. He was confident
2525
03:17:09,980 --> 03:17:13,400
into the premiere that it was going to
work, and he said the moment the
2526
03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:15,320
screaming started, he relaxed.
2527
03:17:15,620 --> 03:17:16,640
He said it's the most...
2528
03:17:16,890 --> 03:17:21,110
amazing experience he's ever had at any
one of his film showings and he still
2529
03:17:21,110 --> 03:17:22,270
remembers it to this day.
2530
03:17:51,170 --> 03:17:57,110
Suspiria. You can hide from Suspiria.
2531
03:18:17,610 --> 03:18:24,530
Only thing more terrifying than the last
12 minutes of Suspiria are
2532
03:18:24,530 --> 03:18:27,290
the first 92.
2533
03:18:33,830 --> 03:18:34,750
What
2534
03:18:34,750 --> 03:18:44,450
I
2535
03:18:44,450 --> 03:18:45,510
have here is terror.
2536
03:18:46,060 --> 03:18:50,880
Directed by Norman J. Warren, starring
Carolyn Courage and James Albury.
2537
03:18:51,080 --> 03:18:56,380
Terror. It's a very fast -moving film.
It's very short. It clocks in about 80
2538
03:18:56,380 --> 03:19:01,100
minutes. The script was written by David
McGillivray, who also has a small cameo
2539
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:02,120
in the film as a reporter.
2540
03:19:02,520 --> 03:19:06,220
If Tucker was found stabbed to death in
the grounds of a house belonging to her
2541
03:19:06,220 --> 03:19:10,720
film producer friend, James Garrick. He
worked extensively with Norman J.
2542
03:19:10,720 --> 03:19:14,180
Warren, but also Pete Walker and a few
other British exploitation directors.
2543
03:19:15,790 --> 03:19:21,650
Okay. Also making uncredited appearances
in this film are Alan Jones, film
2544
03:19:21,650 --> 03:19:24,130
historian and programmer of Fright Fest.
2545
03:19:24,810 --> 03:19:28,670
Yeah, I know. And Claire Rocco, who
worked extensively with Kenny Everett.
2546
03:19:28,670 --> 03:19:35,290
about a 300 -year -old curse, which is
put by Mad Molly in the 16th century,
2547
03:19:35,290 --> 03:19:39,150
she's burnt to death. And when a
director has made a film about Mad
2548
03:19:39,250 --> 03:19:42,450
because the curse was put on his
ancestors.
2549
03:19:43,090 --> 03:19:44,390
It was great.
2550
03:19:45,020 --> 03:19:46,020
Is it really true?
2551
03:19:46,280 --> 03:19:49,220
Yes. It actually happened in this very
house.
2552
03:19:49,500 --> 03:19:53,320
The supernatural force seems to start
killing him and people around him.
2553
03:19:55,700 --> 03:20:00,740
There's some attempt to play it as a
whodunit, but that fails pretty quickly.
2554
03:20:01,020 --> 03:20:05,980
But what it does have are some rather
remarkable set pieces.
2555
03:20:06,220 --> 03:20:12,380
The violence is very, very gory and
very, very well produced.
2556
03:20:13,240 --> 03:20:18,520
There's a beheading and there's a
stabbing, which is probably one of the
2557
03:20:18,520 --> 03:20:20,280
why it got onto the Section 3 list.
2558
03:20:20,580 --> 03:20:26,500
It also has some really dreamy
sequences, almost Suspiria -like, with
2559
03:20:26,500 --> 03:20:27,500
coding of the environment.
2560
03:20:28,520 --> 03:20:33,640
One of the deaths is very, very modern
because it involves a director being
2561
03:20:33,640 --> 03:20:38,700
killed in a film studio by reels of
film.
2562
03:20:39,370 --> 03:20:42,070
at first, and then when he tries to run
away from them, getting beheaded by the
2563
03:20:42,070 --> 03:20:43,070
window.
2564
03:20:43,850 --> 03:20:50,270
And the reels of film were apparently
not usable copies, reels of Saturday
2565
03:20:50,270 --> 03:20:52,270
Fever, which they got from Rank
Laboratories.
2566
03:20:53,070 --> 03:20:56,930
The film studio is quite an interesting
space, because on the wall there's not
2567
03:20:56,930 --> 03:21:00,650
only a poster for Norman J. Warren's
previous film, Satan's Slave, but also
2568
03:21:00,650 --> 03:21:06,610
Thriller, or They Call Her One Eye.
Norman J. Warren had two other titles
2569
03:21:06,610 --> 03:21:07,690
on the Section 3 list.
2570
03:21:08,200 --> 03:21:10,200
in seminoid and pray.
2571
03:21:20,420 --> 03:21:23,680
Have you ever had that nightmare where
you're running for your life?
2572
03:21:26,700 --> 03:21:28,940
But you know that escape is impossible.
2573
03:21:30,400 --> 03:21:31,400
That's terror.
2574
03:21:59,950 --> 03:22:03,610
Have you ever felt an evil presence all
around you, but however much you scream,
2575
03:22:03,710 --> 03:22:04,970
no one can hear you?
2576
03:22:05,490 --> 03:22:06,490
That's terror.
2577
03:22:08,770 --> 03:22:12,330
Have you ever felt that you're being
driven completely out of your mind?
2578
03:22:12,770 --> 03:22:13,770
That's terror.
2579
03:22:19,990 --> 03:22:24,890
Terror knows no bounds in stretching
your endurance to the limit. You'll feel
2580
03:22:24,890 --> 03:22:28,210
all around you. It will trap you,
terrify you.
2581
03:22:34,190 --> 03:22:37,050
reminding yourself it's only a movie.
2582
03:22:37,410 --> 03:22:39,050
It's only a movie.
2583
03:22:39,710 --> 03:22:41,030
Only a movie.
2584
03:22:54,630 --> 03:22:59,490
The text of Chainsaw Massacre, the film
that everybody assumes was on the video
2585
03:22:59,490 --> 03:23:03,670
nasties list because all the films that
imitate it were, but actually it wasn't.
2586
03:23:04,030 --> 03:23:05,310
What happened was true.
2587
03:23:10,790 --> 03:23:15,790
God knows why it slipped through the
net. It was a fairly high profile video
2588
03:23:15,790 --> 03:23:18,010
release in the early 80s.
2589
03:23:18,510 --> 03:23:24,330
And that's after it being refused a BBFC
certificate. It only had a GLCX
2590
03:23:24,330 --> 03:23:25,550
certificate with cuts.
2591
03:23:25,790 --> 03:23:28,110
And it was uncut on 16mm.
2592
03:23:28,430 --> 03:23:31,390
And that meant it was seen in London.
2593
03:23:31,900 --> 03:23:37,360
It was seen at a few select regional art
cinemas. I saw it at the Brighton Film
2594
03:23:37,360 --> 03:23:40,680
Theatre, introduced by Alexander Walker,
with a discussion about censorship
2595
03:23:40,680 --> 03:23:41,680
afterwards.
2596
03:23:43,560 --> 03:23:49,920
You didn't see it at your local
2597
03:23:49,920 --> 03:23:51,120
Isolde or Classic.
2598
03:23:51,920 --> 03:23:57,280
So... By the time it hit video, there
was much more of a want -to -see factor.
2599
03:23:57,400 --> 03:24:01,800
If you're a horror fan, it was one of
those films that had been difficult to
2600
03:24:01,800 --> 03:24:04,140
to see, and here it was at last.
2601
03:24:04,520 --> 03:24:08,940
If you're a horror fan, you'd seen
Halloween, you'd seen Friday the 13th.
2602
03:24:08,940 --> 03:24:10,800
those pictures, they came round.
2603
03:24:11,160 --> 03:24:13,440
Texas Chainsaw Massacre had a bit of a
forbidden fruit.
2604
03:24:13,770 --> 03:24:14,770
aspect to it.
2605
03:24:18,070 --> 03:24:18,750
And
2606
03:24:18,750 --> 03:24:27,730
so...
2607
03:24:28,090 --> 03:24:33,610
It was in demand when it came out on
video. It came out from Ivor Films, who
2608
03:24:33,610 --> 03:24:37,990
it out several different times. First,
they put it out on 8mm for a market that
2609
03:24:37,990 --> 03:24:39,830
disappeared very soon after.
2610
03:24:40,030 --> 03:24:43,730
Then they brought it out on video, but
in the 8mm boxes, which presumably they
2611
03:24:43,730 --> 03:24:44,730
had a bunch left over.
2612
03:24:44,890 --> 03:24:48,150
Then there was a slipcase edition, and
then there were various sleeves.
2613
03:24:48,370 --> 03:24:53,650
And meanwhile, Charles Band's Wizard
video, who had the rights to it in the
2614
03:24:53,650 --> 03:24:57,190
States, rather strangely brought out a
few...
2615
03:24:57,730 --> 03:24:59,870
copies in PAL, which were distributed
here.
2616
03:25:00,190 --> 03:25:05,510
So the market was so glutted, you know,
you couldn't get enough Texas Chainsaw
2617
03:25:05,510 --> 03:25:10,270
Massacres. It was one of those movies
that a lot of people did see, against my
2618
03:25:10,270 --> 03:25:15,070
advice, first on video, because that was
the only way they could see it. And
2619
03:25:15,070 --> 03:25:18,490
then when the Video Recordings Act came
in, it was off the shelves.
2620
03:25:18,690 --> 03:25:21,310
It was one of the few films, The
Exorcist.
2621
03:25:21,530 --> 03:25:26,290
was another, that James Furman just
said, no, Britain's not having this
2622
03:25:26,510 --> 03:25:32,030
Texas Chainsaw Massacre was banned on
film three times, and we tried to cut
2623
03:25:32,050 --> 03:25:35,550
The company said, look, will you work
with us and see if we can cut it?
2624
03:25:36,230 --> 03:25:40,010
There's very little on -screen atrocity.
2625
03:25:40,390 --> 03:25:46,410
It's a slow terrorization. We cut five
obvious bits, like the woman hung on a
2626
03:25:46,410 --> 03:25:47,410
meat hook.
2627
03:25:48,560 --> 03:25:51,260
And I brought it in and showed it to
every member of the board, including the
2628
03:25:51,260 --> 03:25:54,140
president, Lord Harlech, at the time. It
was about 1978.
2629
03:25:55,340 --> 03:25:58,680
And at the end of the film, they said,
it's exactly the same.
2630
03:25:58,900 --> 03:26:02,880
It makes no difference at all. The
experience of watching it is the same,
2631
03:26:02,880 --> 03:26:09,220
is this relentless terrorization, and
particularly of the last surviving girl,
2632
03:26:09,460 --> 03:26:14,780
who is mentally tortured, really, for
about 20, 25 minutes.
2633
03:26:16,650 --> 03:26:18,690
It's very difficult to watch.
2634
03:26:20,230 --> 03:26:25,270
And yet it's getting entertainment out
of her suffering.
2635
03:26:25,610 --> 03:26:32,310
That was essentially what we decided on.
And I think that it was a case of it
2636
03:26:32,310 --> 03:26:37,370
just being the loudest, the most famous,
the most known. And a lot of it is to
2637
03:26:37,370 --> 03:26:38,530
do with the title.
2638
03:26:38,790 --> 03:26:41,050
If it had a different title...
2639
03:26:41,550 --> 03:26:45,710
I don't think it would have stuck in
people's minds and been as famous as it
2640
03:26:45,710 --> 03:26:50,890
was. Part of the genius of the film
comes from its title. I mean, I remember
2641
03:26:50,890 --> 03:26:54,630
first person who told me about the film
is somebody who came back from America
2642
03:26:54,630 --> 03:26:59,710
and said, you'll never believe what I
just saw on a marquee in a cinema in the
2643
03:26:59,710 --> 03:27:03,510
Deep South. He said, the Texas Chainsaw
Massacre.
2644
03:27:03,750 --> 03:27:07,890
And I remember being stunned at the
thought that somebody would make a film
2645
03:27:07,890 --> 03:27:08,950
called that.
2646
03:27:09,580 --> 03:27:13,000
It was on a double bill with the
incredible two -headed transplant, which
2647
03:27:13,000 --> 03:27:15,120
have been an evening out and a half.
2648
03:27:16,060 --> 03:27:22,060
But so that title. And even then, it got
to the point where the BBFC just didn't
2649
03:27:22,060 --> 03:27:23,060
like chainsaws.
2650
03:27:26,200 --> 03:27:30,600
They changed Hollywood Chainsaw Hookers
to Hollywood Hookers. And if you saw the
2651
03:27:30,600 --> 03:27:35,480
box to that, they just painted out the
word chainsaw. So the lingering effects
2652
03:27:35,480 --> 03:27:38,920
of Texas Chainsaw Massacre in British
censorship were quite...
2653
03:27:39,210 --> 03:27:40,730
huge i
2654
03:27:40,730 --> 03:27:52,650
think
2655
03:27:52,650 --> 03:27:57,290
actually it was a film that was not
particularly well represented by video
2656
03:27:57,290 --> 03:28:02,850
because it's a movie that's an
overwhelmingly overpowering experience
2657
03:28:02,850 --> 03:28:03,850
theater
2658
03:28:15,440 --> 03:28:21,140
Not just because of how relentlessly
suspenseful it is and how gruesome it is
2659
03:28:21,140 --> 03:28:25,020
sort of conceptually, it's like all the
art direction just makes you want to be
2660
03:28:25,020 --> 03:28:26,020
sick.
2661
03:28:32,000 --> 03:28:37,280
But it has that really interesting
layered soundtrack, that kind of David
2662
03:28:37,280 --> 03:28:40,960
Lynchian grinding noises that go on
underneath everything.
2663
03:28:45,740 --> 03:28:47,960
even when the chainsaw isn't buzzing.
2664
03:28:48,180 --> 03:28:53,080
And when you were in a cinema and having
that, you know, pounded at you from all
2665
03:28:53,080 --> 03:28:59,280
directions, I mean, I remember seeing it
a couple of times in the cinema in the
2666
03:28:59,280 --> 03:29:04,960
70s, and it being an absolutely
devastating, shattering film.
2667
03:29:10,540 --> 03:29:12,360
Watching it on video...
2668
03:29:12,800 --> 03:29:17,240
It was all right. It still works. It
still grips you. It's got a lot of
2669
03:29:17,340 --> 03:29:21,900
But it's not quite the overwhelming
experience it was as a movie.
2670
03:29:23,120 --> 03:29:28,100
The only thing it had as a sort of hot
button to annoy the censors was the mere
2671
03:29:28,100 --> 03:29:31,120
fact of the power tool, the mere fact of
the chainsaw.
2672
03:29:31,880 --> 03:29:35,640
And... There isn't actually that much
chainsaw action in the film. It's much
2673
03:29:35,640 --> 03:29:41,660
more concerned with general queasiness
and being upsetting and pushing all the
2674
03:29:41,660 --> 03:29:47,320
buttons. It's a key horror film. I still
think of it as one of the top ten most
2675
03:29:47,320 --> 03:29:49,080
horrifying films I've ever seen.
2676
03:29:49,500 --> 03:29:54,240
I don't know if I would feel that if my
first exposure to it had been as a video
2677
03:29:54,240 --> 03:29:57,700
release in the 80s as opposed to a movie
in the 70s.
2678
03:29:58,860 --> 03:30:02,280
It's interesting, again, seeing it put
in the context of all this other stuff.
2679
03:30:02,400 --> 03:30:08,660
To me, it towers so far above films
which would seem to be identical if you
2680
03:30:08,660 --> 03:30:14,440
go by the synopsis. And it shows just
how much Toby Hooper brought to the
2681
03:30:14,440 --> 03:30:15,480
when he made this picture.
2682
03:30:17,400 --> 03:30:19,020
What happened was true.
2683
03:30:31,240 --> 03:30:34,380
the most bizarre and brutal series of
crimes in America.
2684
03:31:21,070 --> 03:31:23,370
This is the movie that is just as real.
2685
03:31:27,310 --> 03:31:28,410
Just as close.
2686
03:31:30,930 --> 03:31:36,990
Just as terrifying as being there.
2687
03:31:39,330 --> 03:31:42,950
Even if one of them survives, what will
be left?
2688
03:31:43,250 --> 03:31:48,330
The Texas Chainsaw Massacre. After you
stop screaming, you'll start talking
2689
03:31:48,330 --> 03:31:49,330
about it.
2690
03:32:04,360 --> 03:32:05,780
John Carpenter's The Thing.
2691
03:32:06,620 --> 03:32:11,820
I can't believe anybody seriously
thought of banning this one or pulling
2692
03:32:11,820 --> 03:32:12,820
one from the shelves.
2693
03:32:13,020 --> 03:32:15,360
It's a major studio film.
2694
03:32:16,720 --> 03:32:21,300
Although it had a sort of slightly rocky
critical reception at the beginning, it
2695
03:32:21,300 --> 03:32:26,040
was fairly quickly accepted as a major
classic of the modern horror picture.
2696
03:32:26,340 --> 03:32:30,540
It had that thing that was really great
for video that...
2697
03:32:30,880 --> 03:32:35,020
it had underperformed in the cinemas for
some reason it came out the wrong time
2698
03:32:35,020 --> 03:32:39,120
people said that that year everybody
wanted to see ET with nice aliens rather
2699
03:32:39,120 --> 03:32:42,880
than the thing with nasty aliens so that
meant there was a video audience out
2700
03:32:42,880 --> 03:32:46,600
there who hadn't seen it yet it
2701
03:32:46,600 --> 03:32:53,560
was also a film that kids loved
2702
03:32:53,560 --> 03:32:55,300
because it had like amazing effects
2703
03:32:59,630 --> 03:33:05,870
It's one of the few conceptually
gruesome films that's more surreal than
2704
03:33:05,870 --> 03:33:10,880
repulsive. Because it has no female
characters, it doesn't have that element
2705
03:33:10,880 --> 03:33:15,420
misogyny that's in a lot of extreme
splatter movies, or even in something
2706
03:33:15,420 --> 03:33:17,080
The Evil Dead, which is slightly
uncomfortable.
2707
03:33:17,680 --> 03:33:23,440
The fact is, it's blokes being mutated
and torn apart and turned into monsters
2708
03:33:23,440 --> 03:33:27,480
and eaten by giant mutant huskies, and
nobody cares about that, right? It's
2709
03:33:27,480 --> 03:33:28,480
fun.
2710
03:33:28,640 --> 03:33:32,580
So it's like, what kind of a mindset...
2711
03:33:33,070 --> 03:33:39,170
takes this and lumps it in with these
other movies. OK, I can see that it's
2712
03:33:39,170 --> 03:33:41,210
of in the same genre.
2713
03:33:41,470 --> 03:33:45,750
The academic term at the time was body
horror, which always struck me as being
2714
03:33:45,750 --> 03:33:52,510
bit po -faced and stupid. But it does
key in, I suppose, with the extremes
2715
03:33:52,510 --> 03:33:55,990
of, like, Lucio Fulci's work or...
2716
03:33:56,810 --> 03:34:02,110
The stuff that Clive Barker started
doing in literature about the same time,
2717
03:34:02,110 --> 03:34:07,530
sort of transformations and
metamorphosis and flesh twisting. And it
2718
03:34:07,530 --> 03:34:12,770
of Rick Bader and Rob Bottin's rubber
monster chain Joe effect.
2719
03:34:13,430 --> 03:34:19,230
And so there is sort of that. But to me,
the fantastical element removed it into
2720
03:34:19,230 --> 03:34:20,230
another.
2721
03:34:20,460 --> 03:34:25,260
I would say a less censorable area. I
don't think that it was a film that the
2722
03:34:25,260 --> 03:34:27,420
BBFC had any trouble with.
2723
03:34:28,700 --> 03:34:32,460
Some people may have felt it went too
far, but some people thought Alien went
2724
03:34:32,460 --> 03:34:38,380
too far. It came out from CIC, who
presumably made a packet with it,
2725
03:34:38,380 --> 03:34:44,880
was like a hot ticket video rental. They
subsequently had a track record of
2726
03:34:44,880 --> 03:34:48,620
pre -cutting their films with quite a
lot of the good stuff.
2727
03:34:49,300 --> 03:34:54,660
snipped and that may well have been
because of responses to the thing I
2728
03:34:54,660 --> 03:34:58,680
know if it was put in maybe the science
fiction section of video shops so a
2729
03:34:58,680 --> 03:35:03,320
younger audience rented it out when
perhaps they weren't quite ready for it
2730
03:35:03,320 --> 03:35:10,320
that got some upset grannies complaining
although I was like 22 or
2731
03:35:10,320 --> 03:35:14,640
23 when the thing came out and I
actually much preferred the Howard Hawks
2732
03:35:41,290 --> 03:35:45,410
And it took me a while to warm up to the
remake. If I'd been 12, it would have
2733
03:35:45,410 --> 03:35:46,550
been my favourite film ever.
2734
03:35:46,750 --> 03:35:53,670
I look at the thing and I see what it
does is basically it does what
2735
03:35:53,670 --> 03:35:55,550
Doctor Who did for my generation.
2736
03:35:55,890 --> 03:36:00,150
It's like, you know, that kind of
science fiction and horror in that one
2737
03:36:00,150 --> 03:36:01,690
concentrated package.
2738
03:36:02,170 --> 03:36:05,350
Absolutely irresistible for 12 -year
-old boys.
2739
03:36:06,030 --> 03:36:10,230
No wonder they all grew up wanting to
remake it badly.
2740
03:36:47,370 --> 03:36:49,090
Twelve men have just discovered
something.
2741
03:36:49,870 --> 03:36:53,350
For 100 ,000 years, it was buried in the
snow and ice.
2742
03:36:54,770 --> 03:36:56,650
Now it has found a place to live.
2743
03:36:57,370 --> 03:36:58,370
Inside.
2744
03:36:58,890 --> 03:37:00,230
Where no one can see it.
2745
03:37:01,090 --> 03:37:02,090
Or hear it.
2746
03:37:03,130 --> 03:37:04,130
Or feel it.
2747
03:37:04,190 --> 03:37:05,410
I know I'm human.
2748
03:37:05,790 --> 03:37:07,130
Some of you are still human.
2749
03:37:07,450 --> 03:37:10,510
This thing doesn't want to show itself.
It wants to hide inside an imitation.
2750
03:37:11,370 --> 03:37:14,530
It'll fight if it has to. But it's
vulnerable out in the open.
2751
03:37:14,790 --> 03:37:16,150
If it takes us over...
2752
03:37:16,440 --> 03:37:17,620
Then it has no more enemies.
2753
03:37:18,260 --> 03:37:19,260
Nobody left to kill it.
2754
03:37:20,380 --> 03:37:21,380
And then it's won.
2755
03:37:21,420 --> 03:37:22,760
You guys gonna listen to Gary?
2756
03:37:22,980 --> 03:37:24,280
We can beat one of those things!
2757
03:38:08,360 --> 03:38:13,200
Tomb of the Living Dead, which I don't
think it was actually called that for
2758
03:38:13,200 --> 03:38:16,520
very long. I still think of it as Mad
Doctor of Blood Island.
2759
03:38:18,940 --> 03:38:24,420
One of the run of shot in the
Philippines Mad Doctor movies. It's
2760
03:38:24,420 --> 03:38:29,480
hilariously on the cover as from Eddie
Romero, the maker of Apocalypse Now.
2761
03:38:30,240 --> 03:38:33,680
It actually stars John Ashley, who's
another one of the makers of Apocalypse
2762
03:38:33,680 --> 03:38:34,680
Now.
2763
03:38:35,020 --> 03:38:38,840
You probably think that Francis Ford
Coppola made Apocalypse Now, and you'd
2764
03:38:38,840 --> 03:38:43,380
right. However, every single person
involved in the film industry in the
2765
03:38:43,380 --> 03:38:47,600
Philippines has a credit on Apocalypse
Now, and Eddie Romero is one of those.
2766
03:38:47,640 --> 03:38:48,700
He's officially a producer.
2767
03:38:49,000 --> 03:38:55,520
I think that means he was basically a
location finder, which is why I am told
2768
03:38:55,520 --> 03:38:59,780
that if you look at Apocalypse Now, you
can see some of the very same locations
2769
03:38:59,780 --> 03:39:02,400
that turn up in the Blood Island movies.
2770
03:39:03,350 --> 03:39:07,550
Beast of Blood, Brain of Blood, which is
the Al Adamson one that was dumped in
2771
03:39:07,550 --> 03:39:11,290
afterwards, Beast of the Yellow Knight,
Beyond Atlantis.
2772
03:39:11,660 --> 03:39:16,120
They're all kind of a morass. They're a
genre unto themselves.
2773
03:39:16,620 --> 03:39:21,400
If you only see one, Mad Doctor of Blood
Island is a good one to start. It's got
2774
03:39:21,400 --> 03:39:26,720
John Ashley, who was sort of the
American lead in most of these films. He
2775
03:39:26,720 --> 03:39:30,900
emigrated to the Philippines and went
into production and direction out there.
2776
03:39:31,060 --> 03:39:36,260
And Angelique Petitjean, who's a sort of
living cartoon. She'd been in a Star
2777
03:39:36,260 --> 03:39:39,640
Trek episode and she ended up making
sort of...
2778
03:39:39,840 --> 03:39:44,660
soft core pictures and working with the
likes of kitten natividad um and and
2779
03:39:44,660 --> 03:39:48,720
actually it's quite a strong presence
and i guess i'm stupid for believing you
2780
03:39:48,720 --> 03:39:52,360
are going to try to help me and it
features the chlorophyll man
2781
03:39:52,360 --> 03:39:59,260
who is one of the most goofy strange
bizarre
2782
03:39:59,260 --> 03:40:06,020
of all uh monsters in mad doctrine and
island movies oh i know what ails him
2783
03:40:06,020 --> 03:40:07,020
symptoms are rather apparent
2784
03:40:08,500 --> 03:40:09,500
Chlorophyll poisoning.
2785
03:40:10,680 --> 03:40:14,760
Chlorophyll? They're all derived
distantly from H .G. Wells.
2786
03:40:16,020 --> 03:40:20,340
Wells was about turning animals into
men. This is about turning men into
2787
03:40:21,180 --> 03:40:25,820
I can't see why anyone was offended by
this. This is kiddie matinee horror.
2788
03:40:27,240 --> 03:40:34,000
This is the sort of stuff that would
have been hokum
2789
03:40:34,000 --> 03:40:36,860
if it had been made with George Zuko in
1943.
2790
03:40:38,120 --> 03:40:43,240
The fact that they were making it in the
1970s, okay, with a bit more sex and a
2791
03:40:43,240 --> 03:40:49,760
bit more blood, maybe goes to show that
it took a long time for new
2792
03:40:49,760 --> 03:40:52,120
ideas in horror to percolate out to the
Philippines.
2793
03:40:53,840 --> 03:40:56,540
I think they're kind of endearing as
films.
2794
03:40:56,860 --> 03:41:03,100
I certainly would happily watch an all
-night showing of all of them.
2795
03:41:04,060 --> 03:41:07,400
And they have cool gimmicks like the
blood -drinking ritual.
2796
03:41:07,950 --> 03:41:12,430
Get your samples of the green blood
potion ready and recite the oath of Dr.
2797
03:41:12,550 --> 03:41:13,550
Lorca aloud with me.
2798
03:41:13,990 --> 03:41:19,330
Now, drink your sample of green blood
and it is guaranteed that you can never
2799
03:41:19,330 --> 03:41:21,390
turn into a green -blooded monster.
2800
03:41:21,770 --> 03:41:26,390
I think, rather sadly, they didn't do
much of that over here and this wasn't a
2801
03:41:26,390 --> 03:41:27,750
particularly big video release.
2802
03:41:29,330 --> 03:41:33,910
Why they stuck this title on it when
there was already Tombs of the Blind
2803
03:41:33,910 --> 03:41:36,110
and Tombs of the Undead on the market?
2804
03:41:36,760 --> 03:41:39,980
Maybe they did want to get confused with
either of those.
2805
03:41:40,660 --> 03:41:44,160
But as it was, they turned it into
generic horror product.
2806
03:41:46,340 --> 03:41:48,720
Mad, mad, mad!
2807
03:41:50,240 --> 03:41:56,340
And he will shock you out of your sanity
too when the transfusion of terror is
2808
03:41:56,340 --> 03:42:00,800
performed by the mad doctor of Blood
Island.
2809
03:42:01,800 --> 03:42:05,340
All of those lives that you think have
been wasted in the course of this
2810
03:42:05,340 --> 03:42:06,340
experiment.
2811
03:42:06,570 --> 03:42:10,430
actually have brought us closer to that
lifelong dream of longevity.
2812
03:42:11,190 --> 03:42:12,190
Eternal youth.
2813
03:42:13,450 --> 03:42:16,350
I will not give up the work of a
lifetime.
2814
03:42:18,290 --> 03:42:20,070
Simply because you think I'm mad.
2815
03:42:49,160 --> 03:42:52,220
We finally got him aboard. He was half
conscious, so we tried to revive him.
2816
03:42:52,580 --> 03:42:54,560
He turned into a raving lunatic.
2817
03:42:55,720 --> 03:42:58,120
Killed one of my men before I finally
got a bullet in.
2818
03:42:59,000 --> 03:43:00,020
What happened to him?
2819
03:43:00,400 --> 03:43:01,460
He jumped overboard.
2820
03:43:02,200 --> 03:43:03,660
It was right after sunset.
2821
03:43:04,660 --> 03:43:06,220
We couldn't find a trace of him.
2822
03:43:07,180 --> 03:43:09,600
But before he jumped, he bled a lot on
deck.
2823
03:43:11,620 --> 03:43:14,180
His blood was green.
2824
03:43:24,200 --> 03:43:28,340
This is a barbaric experience in the
most grotesque sense.
2825
03:43:28,660 --> 03:43:35,100
You will see supernatural beings caught
up in the rampage of gory brutality.
2826
03:43:35,560 --> 03:43:40,900
And it will shock you and jolt you more
than you would ever expect.
2827
03:43:41,300 --> 03:43:48,020
Creatures living for synthetic green
blood. They walk by night and take
2828
03:43:48,020 --> 03:43:51,760
part in gruesome, unholy acts of
savagery.
2829
03:43:58,990 --> 03:44:01,190
It's incredible. It's unbelievable.
2830
03:44:01,910 --> 03:44:05,970
But you will witness scenes so
frightening that your mind will not be
2831
03:44:05,970 --> 03:44:12,610
accept what you see. But don't say we
didn't warn you. The mad doctor of Blur
2832
03:44:12,610 --> 03:44:15,830
Island is coming your way soon.
2833
03:44:16,230 --> 03:44:17,870
And he's waiting for you.
2834
03:44:18,150 --> 03:44:19,770
Why don't you pay him a visit?
2835
03:44:20,050 --> 03:44:26,150
No appointments are necessary. But bring
along your courage. You will need it.
2836
03:44:26,310 --> 03:44:27,310
Yes, indeed.
2837
03:44:43,690 --> 03:44:50,570
The toy box is one of those artifacts
rather than films that must
2838
03:44:50,570 --> 03:44:54,090
have been just astonishing to stumble
over on video.
2839
03:44:55,150 --> 03:44:59,790
Lord knows what the people who put it
out thought they were buying and lord
2840
03:44:59,790 --> 03:45:02,170
knows what the people who rented it
thought they were getting.
2841
03:45:10,600 --> 03:45:14,840
I imagine that there was a similar
reaction, probably among the 42nd Street
2842
03:45:14,840 --> 03:45:18,380
sleaze patrons who went to see this as a
porn movie.
2843
03:45:18,680 --> 03:45:23,980
For the most bizarre, horrifying and
erotic sexual experience you will ever
2844
03:45:23,980 --> 03:45:28,040
have, don't miss the toy box.
2845
03:45:28,600 --> 03:45:35,060
It was made in that period where porn
skin flicks were no longer...
2846
03:45:36,560 --> 03:45:41,400
a novelty but they hadn't yet had the
deep throat moment when hardcore started
2847
03:45:41,400 --> 03:45:46,800
moving on so they got beyond the sort of
the nude volleyball and the torn slips
2848
03:45:46,800 --> 03:45:53,580
in in ruffies type things they got a bit
beyond ross meyer but this is one of
2849
03:45:53,580 --> 03:45:59,040
those movies that if you describe the
plot uh it's so bewildering is so
2850
03:45:59,040 --> 03:46:05,050
it's about a couple of swingers who go
to a party in a mansion, which is thrown
2851
03:46:05,050 --> 03:46:09,410
by a character called Uncle, who's this
big, fat, strange, apparently dead guy.
2852
03:46:09,710 --> 03:46:13,970
But this is insane, performing in front
of a dead body. Well, I'll never do it
2853
03:46:13,970 --> 03:46:16,690
again. I don't care how much money he
gives me, it isn't worth it.
2854
03:46:17,210 --> 03:46:18,290
Well, how do we know he's dead?
2855
03:46:18,550 --> 03:46:23,450
Who has people around that perform weird
sexual charades, and so you get the
2856
03:46:23,450 --> 03:46:27,730
turns. Not many of them are actually
that sexy, although they do mostly
2857
03:46:27,730 --> 03:46:29,430
sexual activity and nudity.
2858
03:46:29,670 --> 03:46:34,250
But then in the last... quarter of an
hour. It turns out that Uncle and indeed
2859
03:46:34,250 --> 03:46:35,330
the heroine are aliens.
2860
03:46:35,650 --> 03:46:37,410
There's something you're not telling
her.
2861
03:46:39,430 --> 03:46:40,790
Nothing's free and easy.
2862
03:46:41,270 --> 03:46:46,590
On the contrary, your species on this
planet are free and easy.
2863
03:46:47,630 --> 03:46:51,510
But on the planet Arkhan, you're
expensive and illegal.
2864
03:46:52,110 --> 03:46:56,990
And it's all about aliens coming to
Earth because they can turn human
2865
03:46:56,990 --> 03:47:00,150
into an illegal drug in their planet. We
discovered.
2866
03:47:00,490 --> 03:47:05,170
By devouring your brains, your emotions
enabled us to become effectively
2867
03:47:05,170 --> 03:47:10,310
intoxicated. It's sort of like the porn
version of Star Trek.
2868
03:47:11,530 --> 03:47:15,290
You can't get through my shield.
2869
03:47:16,710 --> 03:47:23,350
Turns up in the last 15 minutes of this
otherwise rather tame orgy movie in
2870
03:47:23,350 --> 03:47:28,270
which people grope each other very
delicately in strange outfits and
2871
03:47:28,700 --> 03:47:33,500
in a monotone that kind of dialogue that
could could just about go for a really
2872
03:47:33,500 --> 03:47:40,080
pretentious off -broadway play it just
fell from the ceiling out of nowhere and
2873
03:47:40,080 --> 03:47:43,560
then it gets down to you know women
taking their clothes off for a couple of
2874
03:47:43,560 --> 03:47:48,100
minutes and then it gets back to more
doom haunted symbolism and stuff and
2875
03:47:48,480 --> 03:47:53,480
It sort of takes off for the stars,
literally, in the last couple of
2876
03:47:53,480 --> 03:47:56,800
don't know if it was an influence on the
Rocky Horror Show, but it has sort of
2877
03:47:56,800 --> 03:47:57,800
the same ending.
2878
03:47:57,840 --> 03:48:03,060
I find this one of those films that's
kind of hypnotically bad.
2879
03:48:05,520 --> 03:48:06,700
Now, now, behave.
2880
03:48:07,780 --> 03:48:10,540
Oh, my gratitude forever, old kind
mistress.
2881
03:48:11,800 --> 03:48:18,480
It's sort of... inept in many ways it
doesn't have the filmmaking skills that
2882
03:48:18,480 --> 03:48:25,380
ross meyer or radley metzger brought to
similar nudie type material but
2883
03:48:25,380 --> 03:48:30,240
it has some ambitions you know ron
garcia who's gone on to a mainstream
2884
03:48:30,240 --> 03:48:34,060
as a cinematographer worked with david
lynch and a couple things is obviously
2885
03:48:34,060 --> 03:48:36,960
trying to do more than just photograph
naked people
2886
03:48:44,600 --> 03:48:48,340
But he doesn't really seem to have an
idea what he's trying to do.
2887
03:48:48,800 --> 03:48:50,520
I find that quite rewarding.
2888
03:48:50,840 --> 03:48:55,860
I find that it's ambiguities and it's
strangeness. It is a film that I would
2889
03:48:55,860 --> 03:49:00,240
back and look at again because I feel
you can't quite puzzle out what it's
2890
03:49:00,240 --> 03:49:02,280
doing. Its mood changes all the time.
2891
03:49:02,520 --> 03:49:06,120
Some of it is genuinely funny in that.
2892
03:49:07,720 --> 03:49:11,980
Yeah, zombie dialogue reading lines.
Some of the lines are quite amusing.
2893
03:49:12,720 --> 03:49:15,180
Wealthy Pooh doesn't want me.
2894
03:49:15,900 --> 03:49:17,900
Sure I do, baby. Cutie.
2895
03:49:18,220 --> 03:49:20,680
Or whatever your customers call whores.
2896
03:49:22,260 --> 03:49:25,560
You do things my way. You understand.
2897
03:49:26,900 --> 03:49:31,860
I copied down a lot of dialogue while
watching it because it's the sort of
2898
03:49:31,860 --> 03:49:33,640
that I think that'll come in useful
sometime.
2899
03:49:34,160 --> 03:49:35,320
How did you like my performance?
2900
03:49:35,680 --> 03:49:36,680
Was it okay?
2901
03:49:37,800 --> 03:49:39,980
It wasn't as good as your birthday two
years ago.
2902
03:49:41,040 --> 03:49:42,100
But it was all right.
2903
03:49:42,320 --> 03:49:48,400
What it isn't, like a lot of sex films
made about this time, is very sexy.
2904
03:49:48,920 --> 03:49:54,840
There's a lot of sex in it. But the
filmmakers aren't particularly
2905
03:49:54,840 --> 03:49:59,720
or competent with eroticism, which isn't
necessarily a bad thing. It strikes me
2906
03:49:59,720 --> 03:50:01,140
that... Yeah, there are filmmakers.
2907
03:50:01,980 --> 03:50:07,060
Jess Franco comes to mind, someone who
has no talent at all for eroticism, who
2908
03:50:07,060 --> 03:50:10,240
seems to have made more sex films than
anybody else ever.
2909
03:50:11,260 --> 03:50:15,880
It's not necessarily a handicap, whereas
you think being tone deaf would be a
2910
03:50:15,880 --> 03:50:17,680
handicap in making musicals.
2911
03:50:18,580 --> 03:50:23,860
Although one -eyed guys have made 3D
movies, so maybe it's not that. But this
2912
03:50:23,860 --> 03:50:29,100
weird asexuality of the direction and
the production, yeah.
2913
03:50:29,660 --> 03:50:34,420
cuts against the would -be salaciousness
of the material in actually quite an
2914
03:50:34,420 --> 03:50:35,420
interesting way.
2915
03:50:36,980 --> 03:50:43,960
Enter this doorway to the living,
breathing house of captive horror with
2916
03:50:43,960 --> 03:50:49,620
inescapable destiny and their own
ultimate private reward.
2917
03:50:50,980 --> 03:50:55,300
The most extreme human sexual
debauchery.
2918
03:50:55,740 --> 03:51:01,880
since the dawn of man doesn't begin to
compare with the secret, lust -filled
2919
03:51:01,880 --> 03:51:08,060
cravings of an unleashed alien mind
sucking diabolical
2920
03:51:08,060 --> 03:51:14,440
syndromes of depraved eroticism from the
undulating pit of
2921
03:51:14,440 --> 03:51:16,780
orgiastic consummation.
2922
03:51:17,440 --> 03:51:24,200
Ralph and Donna will enter this door and
sacrifice all hope of returning.
2923
03:51:24,880 --> 03:51:30,540
from an endless existence in the vortex
of this gaping orifice of depravity.
2924
03:51:30,940 --> 03:51:37,780
He will collect people to perform like
puppets in a game with no end and no
2925
03:51:37,780 --> 03:51:38,780
beginning.
2926
03:51:44,540 --> 03:51:51,320
The game I have in store for you
2927
03:51:51,320 --> 03:51:53,940
this evening will be the most bizarre...
2928
03:51:55,600 --> 03:51:59,020
the most rewarding venture of your life.
2929
03:52:19,300 --> 03:52:23,860
You will see this bed alive with sexual
desires.
2930
03:52:24,720 --> 03:52:28,920
Surround and penetrate this girl's
deepest erotic emotions.
2931
03:52:30,120 --> 03:52:35,320
Men and women spreading erotic pleasure
from one end of the screen to the other.
2932
03:52:35,900 --> 03:52:41,700
You will see that even death is no
guarantee of peace in this most unusual
2933
03:52:41,700 --> 03:52:42,700
house.
2934
03:52:45,340 --> 03:52:51,940
This young man's secret desires include
the ecstasy of orgasm with murder.
2935
03:52:57,610 --> 03:53:02,010
eaten alive in a scene that goes beyond
anything you have ever witnessed.
2936
03:53:02,350 --> 03:53:08,510
You will see what happens when someone
tries to escape from the toy box.
2937
03:53:09,650 --> 03:53:14,850
You will see people sucking pleasure
from every dimension of sexual reality.
2938
03:53:17,110 --> 03:53:23,130
For the most bizarre, horrifying, and
erotic sexual experience you will ever
2939
03:53:23,130 --> 03:53:27,200
have, don't miss The Toy Box.
2940
03:53:27,780 --> 03:53:29,180
Coming soon.
2941
03:53:53,360 --> 03:53:55,460
brilliant, lycanthropic exploitation
masterpiece.
2942
03:53:55,880 --> 03:53:59,200
I love Reno de Silvestro's movies. He
did Deported Women of the SS Special
2943
03:53:59,200 --> 03:54:01,640
Section, one of my all -time favourites.
2944
03:54:01,880 --> 03:54:06,760
This isn't quite up there, but it sort
of works in a way. Quentin Tarantino
2945
03:54:06,760 --> 03:54:10,900
loved it. In fact, he actually kicked
off an Austin festival with this, and
2946
03:54:10,900 --> 03:54:13,520
slot has since been known as the Wolf
Woman Section.
2947
03:54:14,020 --> 03:54:18,240
Annick Burrell plays La Lupe Manara.
More about possession.
2948
03:54:19,080 --> 03:54:22,600
really, because it was tying in with the
exorcist trend than it was actually
2949
03:54:22,600 --> 03:54:23,740
about werewolves.
2950
03:54:24,340 --> 03:54:27,160
Possessed with an evil that is older
than time itself.
2951
03:54:28,060 --> 03:54:32,380
An evil that turns her life into a
bloody and terrifying nightmare.
2952
03:54:32,880 --> 03:54:35,300
But it's still a pretty good movie. A
bit slow.
2953
03:54:35,840 --> 03:54:39,920
Some of the psychobabble section sort of
slows it down to a bit of a snail's
2954
03:54:39,920 --> 03:54:44,480
pace. I think it really could be snail
woman more than anything else. But
2955
03:54:44,480 --> 03:54:47,260
said that, I mean, the make -up effects
are pretty good.
2956
03:54:49,550 --> 03:54:53,470
The special effects were done by Carlo
Ramboldi, who was later to go on to E
2957
03:54:53,690 --> 03:54:54,830
and King Kong.
2958
03:54:55,230 --> 03:54:58,090
Of course, we weren't interested in
those. We were more interested in all
2959
03:54:58,090 --> 03:55:01,870
Lucio Fulci, like a lizard in a woman's
skin that he did. And this one, he often
2960
03:55:01,870 --> 03:55:06,570
told me that Annick Burrell looked like
a wolf anyway, so he didn't really need
2961
03:55:06,570 --> 03:55:10,450
that much make -up, just as well,
because let's face it, what she's
2962
03:55:10,450 --> 03:55:15,030
looks like a, well... a hairy jumpsuit,
probably made out of, you know, old
2963
03:55:15,030 --> 03:55:18,670
chinchilla. But hey, you know, it worked
for the time. It was more a
2964
03:55:18,670 --> 03:55:20,830
sexploitation movie, I think, than
anything else.
2965
03:55:21,040 --> 03:55:25,200
Biggest surprise here is actually Howard
Ross, or Renato Rossini, to give him
2966
03:55:25,200 --> 03:55:29,500
his real name. He plays a stuntman who
actually falls in love with the werewolf
2967
03:55:29,500 --> 03:55:32,620
woman. But he gives a very, very strong
and muscular performance.
2968
03:55:33,400 --> 03:55:36,880
Very atypical for him, despite the disco
outfits, of course.
2969
03:55:37,080 --> 03:55:41,420
And Dagmar Lissander, who often isn't
credited to be in this movie, gives a
2970
03:55:41,420 --> 03:55:42,940
of oomph to the meaty sex scenes.
2971
03:55:43,280 --> 03:55:45,640
The first release of the movie was on
the Cine Hollywood label.
2972
03:55:45,940 --> 03:55:46,940
Then it was on...
2973
03:55:47,320 --> 03:55:51,480
the intercity video label, and then it
went to the Cockney Rebel special label.
2974
03:55:51,780 --> 03:55:57,720
So this has had more releases than you
could possibly imagine one video title
2975
03:55:57,720 --> 03:55:59,160
could ever possibly have.
2976
03:56:00,980 --> 03:56:06,260
How could any man guess that this girl,
young,
2977
03:56:16,360 --> 03:56:17,820
The legend of the Wolf Woman.
2978
03:56:19,240 --> 03:56:21,780
A century -old family curse.
2979
03:56:25,660 --> 03:56:28,580
Possessed with an evil that is older
than time itself.
2980
03:56:29,280 --> 03:56:34,580
An evil that turns her life into a
bloody and terrifying nightmare that
2981
03:56:34,580 --> 03:56:35,580
ends.
2982
03:56:36,980 --> 03:56:39,180
The legend of the Wolf Woman.
2983
03:56:39,800 --> 03:56:44,440
Daniela is born and reborn in an act of
reincarnation that is essential.
2984
03:56:46,460 --> 03:56:53,460
as violent, as bloody, as anything you
will ever see on the motion
2985
03:56:53,460 --> 03:56:54,460
picture screen.
2986
03:56:55,780 --> 03:56:59,580
First, she will seduce you with the
frenzy of someone possessed.
2987
03:57:00,560 --> 03:57:05,280
Then, she'll show you the soul of a
creature that must devour the men who
2988
03:57:05,280 --> 03:57:06,920
her in order to live.
2989
03:57:08,240 --> 03:57:10,020
The Legend of the Wolf Woman.
2990
03:57:18,120 --> 03:57:21,940
In the legend of the wolf woman, we'll
eat you up.
2991
03:57:33,700 --> 03:57:37,620
So this is Wrong Way, a film that was
directed by Ron Kelly, who was actually
2992
03:57:37,620 --> 03:57:41,360
pseudonym for someone called Ray
Williams. And it also starred a woman
2993
03:57:41,360 --> 03:57:46,240
Candy Sweet, who was in some other dodgy
exploitation films, I guess you could
2994
03:57:46,240 --> 03:57:52,560
say. The poster art says they did it the
wrong way, which I think was quite
2995
03:57:52,560 --> 03:57:56,100
perverse because obviously the first
thing I thought was they went the wrong
2996
03:57:56,100 --> 03:58:02,800
way. And so it is a standard kind of
girls' car fucks up and so they have to
2997
03:58:02,800 --> 03:58:07,840
get out, take all their clothes off to
try and fix the car and then they are
2998
03:58:07,840 --> 03:58:11,260
hijacked, I guess you would say, by fake
geologists.
2999
03:58:11,940 --> 03:58:15,680
Sam and I are geologists. We have a
mobile lab station about four miles up
3000
03:58:15,680 --> 03:58:19,990
road. who end up being drug -crazed
bikers.
3001
03:58:22,110 --> 03:58:28,850
Except that the film really doesn't
3002
03:58:28,850 --> 03:58:34,110
have any kind of deplorability that is
worthy of it. The film is essentially
3003
03:58:34,110 --> 03:58:39,230
over an hour of four very ugly...
3004
03:58:40,200 --> 03:58:45,120
sunburnt redneck men naked raping these
women and beating them in quite graphic
3005
03:58:45,120 --> 03:58:46,120
ways.
3006
03:58:46,940 --> 03:58:53,860
It's essentially a soft porn film but
because I think for whatever reason
3007
03:58:53,860 --> 03:58:58,980
they didn't want to use a soft porn kind
of ideology of titillation they've only
3008
03:58:58,980 --> 03:58:59,980
used abuse instead.
3009
03:59:00,200 --> 03:59:05,940
And then all of a sudden there's this
grand rupture to a cult where they are
3010
03:59:05,940 --> 03:59:11,520
going to get raped for a kind of Strange
God that has no name.
3011
03:59:11,820 --> 03:59:16,980
I feel Providence has finally singled us
out for the ultimate gratification.
3012
03:59:17,820 --> 03:59:19,500
We shall kill them, of course.
3013
03:59:20,860 --> 03:59:26,000
Brutally. It is obviously of its time
because it's very California Hills. It's
3014
03:59:26,000 --> 03:59:29,660
very zero -budget farmyard mentality.
3015
03:59:30,740 --> 03:59:37,320
What are you doing here? It was cut to
under an hour
3016
03:59:37,320 --> 03:59:38,480
upon its release.
3017
03:59:39,120 --> 03:59:41,740
which means that they obviously cut all
the nudity out.
3018
03:59:41,980 --> 03:59:48,540
There's nothing quite as strange as
seeing over an hour of soft porn and
3019
03:59:48,540 --> 03:59:54,240
penises, because there's just sex scene
after sex scene with clearly flaccid
3020
03:59:54,240 --> 03:59:58,660
penises, and there's something quite
gruesome about that. It shows just how
3021
03:59:58,660 --> 04:00:02,680
miserable and insipid the film is. And I
think that this is the problem with
3022
04:00:02,680 --> 04:00:05,680
this film, that it's not terrible.
3023
04:00:06,380 --> 04:00:10,500
and it's not great it's it's deplorable
because it's not deplorable enough
3024
04:00:10,500 --> 04:00:16,520
there's nothing really dreadful enough
it's just it is literally a flaccid kind
3025
04:00:16,520 --> 04:00:22,820
of film and also watching these very uh
vile naked men one of whom has some kind
3026
04:00:22,820 --> 04:00:29,040
of skin necrosis above his ass formula
you plus
3027
04:00:29,040 --> 04:00:34,440
wrong way the one thing that i will give
it some merit for is that the
3028
04:00:34,440 --> 04:00:37,050
vernacular is phenomenal and hilarious.
3029
04:00:37,590 --> 04:00:38,590
Dig it.
3030
04:00:38,950 --> 04:00:41,590
Every second word is dig, bread.
3031
04:00:42,330 --> 04:00:43,490
The bread, man. The bread.
3032
04:00:43,770 --> 04:00:45,070
I'm down with that man.
3033
04:00:45,530 --> 04:00:50,810
It's like listening to Neil from The
Young Ones narrate a David Hess film.
3034
04:00:51,030 --> 04:00:52,030
Oh, what a bummer.
3035
04:00:52,780 --> 04:00:57,620
So in reference to Section 3 and the
possibility of what might have caused
3036
04:00:57,620 --> 04:01:03,220
to be such a controversial film, it is
essentially a soft porn film because you
3037
04:01:03,220 --> 04:01:07,760
do see full male nudity, full female
nudity. You see simulated fellatio, you
3038
04:01:07,760 --> 04:01:13,000
simulated forced cunnilingus. The film
did come out the same year as Last House
3039
04:01:13,000 --> 04:01:15,720
on the Left and according to my
research...
3040
04:01:15,930 --> 04:01:20,190
It's not quite clear whether they made
it immediately after Last House on the
3041
04:01:20,190 --> 04:01:23,750
Left to cash in on it, because it
certainly shares some things. But at the
3042
04:01:23,750 --> 04:01:28,930
time, it's so sparsely similar that it's
hard to decide.
3043
04:01:29,170 --> 04:01:35,110
But clearly, because it has got the sort
of insert at the end of the crazed cult
3044
04:01:35,110 --> 04:01:39,550
leader and the sex cult and the murder
that is associated with it. But because
3045
04:01:39,550 --> 04:01:41,250
it's so...
3046
04:01:42,030 --> 04:01:46,730
as I said, flaccidly done, both in terms
of the actual turgidity of the members
3047
04:01:46,730 --> 04:01:50,030
and also the kind of acting.
3048
04:01:50,710 --> 04:01:54,090
You mean you destroy a human being for a
few lousy dollars?
3049
04:01:54,990 --> 04:02:00,850
It's like on paper it reads like it
would be banned under Section 3.
3050
04:02:01,210 --> 04:02:02,250
You're intelligent, I like you.
3051
04:02:03,290 --> 04:02:04,330
In terms of...
3052
04:02:04,590 --> 04:02:09,030
box ticking it definitely would be
considered a pornographic film but in
3053
04:02:09,030 --> 04:02:13,650
of what it's actually showing it
wouldn't so for that reason its status
3054
04:02:13,650 --> 04:02:20,610
peculiar formula this plus
3055
04:02:20,610 --> 04:02:25,750
this plus this
3056
04:02:25,750 --> 04:02:30,730
plus this
3057
04:02:34,260 --> 04:02:36,100
Equal. Wrong way.
3058
04:02:36,540 --> 04:02:38,060
Two girls in trouble.
3059
04:02:41,700 --> 04:02:43,940
Two guys looking for trouble.
3060
04:02:48,080 --> 04:02:50,660
And lots more where they came from.
3061
04:02:56,740 --> 04:02:57,740
Action.
3062
04:02:59,740 --> 04:03:00,740
Drama.
3063
04:03:06,369 --> 04:03:07,890
Suspense. Comedy.
3064
04:03:10,750 --> 04:03:12,030
Wrong way.
3065
04:03:12,410 --> 04:03:15,570
A true experience brought to life on the
screen.
3066
04:03:18,970 --> 04:03:24,950
Two girls kidnapped, humiliated, raped,
and left abandoned.
3067
04:03:27,070 --> 04:03:30,390
Eventually making their way to what they
think is safety.
3068
04:03:36,240 --> 04:03:41,260
only to fall into the hands of a
maniacal killer cult of hippies.
3069
04:03:47,560 --> 04:03:48,900
Bizarre? Yes.
3070
04:04:00,560 --> 04:04:02,360
Sadistic? Yes.
3071
04:04:12,970 --> 04:04:19,350
Formula. You plus wrong way equals
3072
04:04:19,350 --> 04:04:21,350
an experience.
3073
04:04:47,920 --> 04:04:48,920
Wrong way.
3074
04:04:49,500 --> 04:04:50,500
See it.
3075
04:05:01,260 --> 04:05:05,620
What's the one film that most people
think is on the original 72 video nasty
3076
04:05:05,620 --> 04:05:06,780
list, but actually isn't?
3077
04:05:07,040 --> 04:05:10,080
Well, it's Harry Bromley Davenport's
Extra.
3078
04:05:10,820 --> 04:05:16,920
Nothing too extraordinary, I'm afraid,
in the alien invasion stakes, but...
3079
04:05:17,680 --> 04:05:21,740
enough to warrant sort of like a low
-rent franchise, that's for sure.
3080
04:05:23,660 --> 04:05:26,140
Tony's father has been away a long time.
3081
04:05:26,680 --> 04:05:29,260
Now he's coming home.
3082
04:05:34,250 --> 04:05:38,670
The film originally came about because
Robert Shea of New Line Cinema wanted to
3083
04:05:38,670 --> 04:05:42,250
copy the Phantasm template, the Don
Coscarelli movie.
3084
04:05:42,490 --> 04:05:46,910
He wanted a movie with lots of buzz
moments, and he felt that Extro would
3085
04:05:46,910 --> 04:05:48,170
actually fulfil that brief.
3086
04:05:50,830 --> 04:05:54,590
Extro, bearing powers of black magic
from deep space.
3087
04:05:56,360 --> 04:06:00,320
it was actually robert shea who insisted
on the black panther scene he thought
3088
04:06:00,320 --> 04:06:03,900
it even though it made no sense he
thought it needed a bit of a shock in
3089
04:06:03,900 --> 04:06:07,340
particular moment but it bears no
relation to anything that goes on in the
3090
04:06:07,340 --> 04:06:13,060
so harry bromley davenport went off and
filmed this i was actually on the set of
3091
04:06:13,060 --> 04:06:17,780
this movie and saw the alien which is
really a mime artist bent over backwards
3092
04:06:17,780 --> 04:06:20,720
thought that was pretty obvious i never
actually expected people to buy that
3093
04:06:21,290 --> 04:06:25,690
But, you know, it was a reasonable
enough attempt at trying to do an alien
3094
04:06:25,690 --> 04:06:26,690
the cheap.
3095
04:06:26,970 --> 04:06:29,890
Indestructible, ever -changing evils.
3096
04:06:30,510 --> 04:06:34,390
And Harry Bromley Davenport was a pretty
resourceful director, as Whispers of
3097
04:06:34,390 --> 04:06:39,250
Fear proved, but even he couldn't do
much with the Michelle Parry script
3098
04:06:39,310 --> 04:06:42,750
which was like another version of I
Married a Monster from Outer Space.
3099
04:06:43,350 --> 04:06:48,110
It takes off where Close Encounters of
the Third Kind left off, is the way Mark
3100
04:06:48,110 --> 04:06:50,730
Forstater, the producer, explained Extro
to me.
3101
04:06:51,210 --> 04:06:52,590
Well, fair enough.
3102
04:06:52,830 --> 04:06:59,170
It starred Bernie Steggers, Lamberto
Barber's macabre star, and the wife of
3103
04:06:59,170 --> 04:07:02,420
Newell, the director who would do...
Four Weddings and a Funeral and Prince
3104
04:07:02,420 --> 04:07:06,320
Persia. In later years, Harry brought me
Davenport, who I actually met because
3105
04:07:06,320 --> 04:07:11,740
he was a very close friend of Maureen
Bartlett, who ran Video Media, one of
3106
04:07:11,740 --> 04:07:15,160
very first video labels set in Wardour
Street.
3107
04:07:15,620 --> 04:07:19,940
Harry always said that he was stoned
throughout the whole of this film, and
3108
04:07:19,940 --> 04:07:23,120
fact that it actually held together was
just amazing to him.
3109
04:07:23,380 --> 04:07:27,380
If you think hard about something, you
can make it happen.
3110
04:07:31,280 --> 04:07:34,300
Harry always said the movie was a
complete mess, that the atmosphere was
3111
04:07:34,300 --> 04:07:38,840
completely unintentional. He was very
cynical about it. But, hey, as I said,
3112
04:07:38,840 --> 04:07:42,140
went on to become a major franchise, so,
you know, who was right?
3113
04:07:46,100 --> 04:07:48,480
Tony's father has been away a long time.
3114
04:07:49,360 --> 04:07:51,540
Now he's coming home.
3115
04:07:55,640 --> 04:07:57,100
Extro has returned.
3116
04:07:59,820 --> 04:08:03,080
Once a man, he is now something more
than human.
3117
04:08:03,880 --> 04:08:06,380
Indestructible, ever -changing, evil.
3118
04:08:07,820 --> 04:08:12,060
His mission, to avenge, to possess, to
destroy.
3119
04:08:12,520 --> 04:08:13,520
Why did you come back?
3120
04:08:13,620 --> 04:08:14,640
I came back for you.
3121
04:08:14,940 --> 04:08:16,260
Oh, my God.
3122
04:08:17,220 --> 04:08:18,220
John!
3123
04:08:20,760 --> 04:08:24,520
Extro. Bearing powers of black magic
from deep space.
3124
04:08:25,640 --> 04:08:27,980
If you think hard about something...
3125
04:08:28,970 --> 04:08:30,010
You can make it happen.
3126
04:08:43,250 --> 04:08:45,390
Use it when you need it.
3127
04:09:20,590 --> 04:09:22,650
Some extraterrestrials aren't friendly.
3128
04:09:22,890 --> 04:09:24,630
From New Line Cinema, rated R.
3129
04:09:38,230 --> 04:09:39,390
Zombie Holocaust.
3130
04:09:40,050 --> 04:09:45,730
One of the seemingly unendless parade of
Italian zombie movies from the early
3131
04:09:45,730 --> 04:09:46,730
80s.
3132
04:09:47,290 --> 04:09:48,630
Actually, it's a...
3133
04:09:49,040 --> 04:09:52,460
It's a kind of crossover film because
it's sort of a cannibal movie that turns
3134
04:09:52,460 --> 04:09:53,460
into a zombie movie.
3135
04:09:53,720 --> 04:09:55,740
Something about cannibalism from what I
hear.
3136
04:09:55,980 --> 04:09:57,720
Where the hell did you hear that crap?
3137
04:09:57,920 --> 04:10:01,100
It's got mad science in it, but it's got
cannibal tribesmen too.
3138
04:10:01,320 --> 04:10:04,840
Start Ian McCullough could be in a
couple of actually better Italian
3139
04:10:04,840 --> 04:10:06,500
exploitation pictures.
3140
04:10:06,740 --> 04:10:11,480
The man from Zombie Flesh Eaters and
Alien Contamination, which would
3141
04:10:11,480 --> 04:10:12,480
deliver.
3142
04:10:12,760 --> 04:10:15,620
all the stuff that Zombie Holocaust only
promises.
3143
04:10:15,920 --> 04:10:20,060
You seem to know a great deal about
these people. The various video versions
3144
04:10:20,060 --> 04:10:23,960
that were around in the UK were heavily
cut, so...
3145
04:10:24,440 --> 04:10:28,480
The only reason you went and saw these
films was for the gruesomeness and there
3146
04:10:28,480 --> 04:10:32,260
wasn't that much in the versions you
got, which is probably why they took
3147
04:10:32,260 --> 04:10:36,320
on it and didn't make it a proper video
nasty, although every other film with
3148
04:10:36,320 --> 04:10:41,780
zombie or indeed holocaust in the title
managed to make it. I suppose calling it
3149
04:10:41,780 --> 04:10:45,980
zombie holocaust was an admission of
failure because it's like gluing
3150
04:10:45,980 --> 04:10:50,460
titles from other films to make your
film, which is rarely a way of...
3151
04:10:51,160 --> 04:10:55,400
of making striking original work that
anybody will care about.
3152
04:11:02,560 --> 04:11:07,580
It was released in America as Dr.
Butcher MD, which is actually a better
3153
04:11:07,720 --> 04:11:11,920
although completely irrelevant to what
the film's about.
3154
04:11:12,160 --> 04:11:16,120
Yours is a typical example of median
intelligence, enough to discover the
3155
04:11:16,120 --> 04:11:19,220
existence of my secret, but absolutely
incapable of understanding it.
3156
04:11:19,560 --> 04:11:26,380
I have a certain affection for this
period of rubbish, and I'm sure I own
3157
04:11:26,380 --> 04:11:27,339
this on DVD.
3158
04:11:27,340 --> 04:11:33,560
I may well have watched it several
times, but I'd be hard put to say why in
3159
04:11:33,560 --> 04:11:35,920
particular this stands out of the pack.
3160
04:11:36,200 --> 04:11:40,700
It is kind of shuffling there at the
back, isn't it? Because it doesn't have
3161
04:11:40,700 --> 04:11:45,700
really gross -out set pieces that some
of the other zombie films have. It's
3162
04:11:45,700 --> 04:11:46,720
generally unpleasant.
3163
04:11:57,840 --> 04:12:01,600
The patient screamed, disturbing me,
performed removal of vocal cords. His
3164
04:12:01,600 --> 04:12:07,480
is Dr. Butcher, M .D., medical deviant.
He has perverted the science of medicine
3165
04:12:07,480 --> 04:12:09,560
for his own maniacal means.
3166
04:12:10,940 --> 04:12:11,940
Dr.
3167
04:12:16,920 --> 04:12:22,960
Butcher, M .D., medical deviant. You
will die, only to live again in a
3168
04:12:22,960 --> 04:12:27,100
body. Then you can tell me if the
operation was a success, what it's like
3169
04:12:27,100 --> 04:12:30,000
pass from life to death and death to
life.
3170
04:12:30,420 --> 04:12:31,420
See Dr.
3171
04:12:31,640 --> 04:12:33,060
Butcher's diabolical surgery.
3172
04:12:35,500 --> 04:12:38,320
He must have a psychopathic deviant in
the hospital.
3173
04:12:38,660 --> 04:12:41,700
See him mutilate patients with his
murderous scalpel.
3174
04:12:43,600 --> 04:12:49,140
Dr. Butcher loves New York. There are so
many attractive patients to operate on.
3175
04:12:49,980 --> 04:12:55,220
I could easily kill you now, but I'm
determined to have your brain be the
3176
04:12:55,220 --> 04:12:56,500
culmination of my career.
3177
04:12:57,880 --> 04:13:03,280
Dr. Butcher, medical deviant. He loves
to operate on beautiful women.
3178
04:13:04,020 --> 04:13:08,360
I'm on the verge of discovering the key
to increasing man's lifespan by over a
3179
04:13:08,360 --> 04:13:09,360
hundred years.
3180
04:13:15,880 --> 04:13:17,520
Prepare the operating table.
3181
04:13:18,550 --> 04:13:21,290
I'm anxious to experiment on a male
Caucasian brain.
3182
04:13:25,170 --> 04:13:30,870
The time has come for you to play your
part in this momentous occasion.
3183
04:13:31,170 --> 04:13:34,510
Science must surmount all obstacles and
this requires certain sacrifices.
3184
04:13:34,810 --> 04:13:38,510
It will comfort you to know that
generations to come will reap great
3185
04:13:38,510 --> 04:13:39,510
from my experiments.
3186
04:13:55,560 --> 04:13:56,820
Bloodthirsty lunatic.
3187
04:14:06,540 --> 04:14:07,580
Dr.
3188
04:14:08,840 --> 04:14:14,440
Butcher, M .D., medical deviant. He's a
depraved, sadistic rapist. A
3189
04:14:14,440 --> 04:14:16,380
bloodthirsty, homicidal killer.
3190
04:14:34,410 --> 04:14:39,750
And now we come to George Romero's Dawn
of the Dead, probably the best film on
3191
04:14:39,750 --> 04:14:46,650
this compilation, probably the best film
in the whole haul of this period,
3192
04:14:46,730 --> 04:14:49,730
one of the few that's remained a lasting
classic.
3193
04:14:50,490 --> 04:14:55,110
This situation must be controlled before
it's too late. They are multiplying too
3194
04:14:55,110 --> 04:14:56,570
rapidly. Dawn.
3195
04:14:57,540 --> 04:15:01,300
And yet everyone forgets that in Britain
it wasn't particularly well treated
3196
04:15:01,300 --> 04:15:04,280
originally. It was retitled. It was
called Zombies.
3197
04:15:08,680 --> 04:15:13,720
This situation must be controlled before
it's too late. It is too late. They are
3198
04:15:13,720 --> 04:15:15,060
multiplying too rapidly.
3199
04:15:15,720 --> 04:15:18,760
Run if you can, but there's no escaping
the zombies.
3200
04:15:19,480 --> 04:15:23,480
George Romero brings you face to face
with the dawn of the day.
3201
04:15:25,100 --> 04:15:26,600
There's no more room in hell.
3202
04:15:26,820 --> 04:15:29,360
The dead will walk the earth.
3203
04:15:30,540 --> 04:15:35,000
They didn't even do it consistently.
3204
04:15:35,380 --> 04:15:39,520
It's called Zombies in its opening
credits and Dawn of the Dead in its end
3205
04:15:39,520 --> 04:15:43,460
credits. This was the version, in fact,
that premiered at the London Film
3206
04:15:43,460 --> 04:15:45,740
Festival in 1979. I know I was there.
3207
04:15:46,000 --> 04:15:51,900
And then had a successful theatrical
run. But this was the very birth of...
3208
04:15:52,120 --> 04:15:58,760
It may well have been the first
videotaped film I saw on Betamax, of
3209
04:15:58,940 --> 04:16:02,400
and I suspect it made a fortune.
3210
04:16:02,760 --> 04:16:08,480
Even though it's a slightly BBFC
-snipped version that was around, but it
3211
04:16:08,480 --> 04:16:15,480
one of the kind of wonder films of the
early days of the video rental industry.
3212
04:16:15,520 --> 04:16:18,220
I think it was one that everybody saw
then.
3213
04:16:28,640 --> 04:16:34,880
I suspect we could fill the rest of this
tape, the interview, with just talking
3214
04:16:34,880 --> 04:16:38,680
about the things about this movie
everybody knows and how important it is
3215
04:16:38,680 --> 04:16:41,940
what a major influence it is on
subsequent horror pictures.
3216
04:16:42,180 --> 04:16:47,780
But just in terms of its influence on
the video industry, I suspect that it
3217
04:16:47,780 --> 04:16:48,780
was...
3218
04:16:49,040 --> 04:16:55,540
the release of this picture on video
that inspired the release of all those
3219
04:16:55,540 --> 04:16:56,920
other zombie pictures.
3220
04:16:57,340 --> 04:17:02,640
Yeah, the famous Italian zombie movies,
which had started, they got theatrical
3221
04:17:02,640 --> 04:17:06,200
releases off the back of the success of
Dawn of the Dead.
3222
04:17:06,880 --> 04:17:11,620
But then they became the kind of
mainstays of the video nasty list.
3223
04:17:11,860 --> 04:17:15,940
Imagine, if you will, that something has
gone terribly wrong.
3224
04:17:16,910 --> 04:17:21,210
It's interesting that this was only, as
it were, gray -listed as a video nasty.
3225
04:17:21,350 --> 04:17:27,770
I think even then there was a sense that
George Romero was a cut above
3226
04:17:27,770 --> 04:17:29,350
the Italian hacks.
3227
04:17:29,730 --> 04:17:34,170
That this was reasonably serious.
3228
04:17:35,300 --> 04:17:40,400
And I think even the people who were
predisposed to be upset looked at this
3229
04:17:40,400 --> 04:17:45,440
movie and saw something that was plainly
operating on a completely different
3230
04:17:45,440 --> 04:17:51,140
level. Not that that usually stopped the
censorious, but it meant that there
3231
04:17:51,140 --> 04:17:54,340
were more people in its corner willing
to fight for it.
3232
04:17:54,700 --> 04:17:59,900
It is a horrible, hauntingly accurate
vision of the mindless excesses of a
3233
04:17:59,900 --> 04:18:01,360
society gone mad.
3234
04:18:02,960 --> 04:18:08,200
In the UK, the theatrical distributor of
Dawn of the Dead were Target, with a
3235
04:18:08,200 --> 04:18:10,300
precursor to Arrow, who were still in
business.
3236
04:18:10,620 --> 04:18:16,380
On video, it was Alpha, who were Stanley
Long's company, who were quite big as
3237
04:18:16,380 --> 04:18:18,140
an early video distributor.
3238
04:18:30,120 --> 04:18:34,760
I think even they were aware that they
struck it really lucky with Dawn of the
3239
04:18:34,760 --> 04:18:35,760
Dead.
3240
04:18:36,480 --> 04:18:40,380
I assume they just bid the most for the
rights.
3241
04:18:42,440 --> 04:18:49,090
And that they didn't do what some
distributors did. did. They didn't
3242
04:18:49,090 --> 04:18:55,010
take advantage of the fact that, you
know, they didn't have to release the
3243
04:18:55,010 --> 04:18:59,730
version. They did release the BBFC
version, which is very slightly cut. I
3244
04:18:59,730 --> 04:19:03,690
if you watch the two back -to -back,
you'll notice there's a famous head
3245
04:19:03,690 --> 04:19:09,970
exploding that's gone, and there are
some gun sight shots where you see the
3246
04:19:09,970 --> 04:19:12,050
telescopic sight and the head exploding.
3247
04:19:12,270 --> 04:19:13,530
Those were trimmed.
3248
04:19:14,120 --> 04:19:16,380
But it was more or less left alone.
3249
04:19:16,580 --> 04:19:22,220
I don't think it was horribly
compromised in the way that some of
3250
04:19:22,220 --> 04:19:27,340
were, by having anything remotely gory
removed, leaving only the wandering
3251
04:19:27,340 --> 04:19:28,340
around scenes.
3252
04:19:28,980 --> 04:19:29,980
Zombies.
3253
04:19:30,480 --> 04:19:32,000
They get up and kill.
3254
04:19:32,480 --> 04:19:35,180
The people they kill get up and kill.
3255
04:19:35,740 --> 04:19:42,580
So it was a film that was treated
reasonably respectfully, as zombie
3256
04:19:42,580 --> 04:19:48,900
were. George Romero brings back the dead
the reason it's in this kind of
3257
04:19:48,900 --> 04:19:54,600
hinterland of almost a video nasty is
almost to tick off the boxes it was the
3258
04:19:54,600 --> 04:19:59,840
other big zombie flesh -eating movie
around at the time when zombie flesh
3259
04:19:59,840 --> 04:20:04,670
was why those movies want people wanted
to toss into the fire so it was almost
3260
04:20:04,670 --> 04:20:09,230
like oh well you might as well take this
as well and then people said yeah it's
3261
04:20:09,230 --> 04:20:13,430
actually quite a good film and that's
quite an important movie uh i think it's
3262
04:20:13,430 --> 04:20:18,950
yeah in the the trawls that went round
you know there are stories of people
3263
04:20:18,950 --> 04:20:22,830
taking apocalypse now because they got
it mixed up with cannibal apocalypse
3264
04:20:22,830 --> 04:20:27,030
and i think this is one of those give me
another list sure i'll just pull it out
3265
04:20:27,030 --> 04:20:28,030
of my ass right
3266
04:20:28,620 --> 04:20:35,560
and to be fair to ask the police to make
distinctions between one
3267
04:20:35,560 --> 04:20:40,780
zombie film and another in a day before
yeah you could go on your Yeah, your
3268
04:20:40,780 --> 04:20:43,660
iPhone and check the IMDB to sort out
which is which.
3269
04:20:43,960 --> 04:20:47,640
When even companies didn't know which
films they were releasing.
3270
04:20:48,040 --> 04:20:54,100
When certainly the bloke who ran your
video corner store had no particular
3271
04:20:54,100 --> 04:20:58,300
what was on his shelves and who made it.
It was difficult to ask people whose
3272
04:20:58,300 --> 04:21:04,300
job had nothing to do with this to try
and make those distinctions. But I think
3273
04:21:04,300 --> 04:21:08,920
that's just part of the grand and tragic
comedy of the Video Nasties years.
3274
04:21:10,190 --> 04:21:13,890
When there's no more room in hell, the
dead will walk the earth.
3275
04:21:15,690 --> 04:21:16,690
Zombie.
3276
04:21:18,550 --> 04:21:25,370
This situation must be controlled before
it's too late.
3277
04:21:25,650 --> 04:21:29,390
Meet me on the roof at 9 o 'clock. They
are multiplying too rapidly.
3278
04:21:30,150 --> 04:21:32,090
We've got to survive. Somebody's got to
survive.
3279
04:21:37,590 --> 04:21:38,590
Zombies.
3280
04:21:39,220 --> 04:21:40,620
They get up and kill.
3281
04:21:41,140 --> 04:21:43,800
The people they kill get up and kill.
3282
04:21:45,440 --> 04:21:50,120
Imagine that the most frightening things
on Earth are about to come out of the
3283
04:21:50,120 --> 04:21:51,120
darkness.
3284
04:21:58,600 --> 04:22:01,400
George Romero brings back the dead.
3285
04:22:23,530 --> 04:22:25,650
What the hell are you doing playing
around? Someone's upstairs shooting at
3286
04:22:26,930 --> 04:22:28,770
They kill for one reason.
3287
04:22:29,090 --> 04:22:30,590
They eat their victims.
3288
04:22:52,140 --> 04:22:54,520
but there's no escaping the terrifying
consequences.
3289
04:22:58,500 --> 04:23:03,060
George Romero brings you face to face
with the dawn of the dead.
3290
04:23:03,520 --> 04:23:04,520
Zombies.
3291
04:23:05,960 --> 04:23:07,780
Zombies. Zombies.
3292
04:23:08,060 --> 04:23:09,060
Well,
3293
04:23:19,620 --> 04:23:20,660
Zombies Lake.
3294
04:23:21,360 --> 04:23:25,380
or Zombie Lake, however you prefer, Le
Lac des Morts Grévants. You won't find
3295
04:23:25,380 --> 04:23:29,260
very many people who are going to stick
up for this one, but I'm going to try.
3296
04:23:31,420 --> 04:23:35,640
And before I do, I should point out that
every time I've watched this movie,
3297
04:23:35,780 --> 04:23:39,400
within about 30 minutes, my eyes have
been looking at the clock on the DVD
3298
04:23:39,400 --> 04:23:42,180
player or the video player, thinking,
how much longer?
3299
04:23:42,420 --> 04:23:45,820
So I do sympathise. If you're sitting
there thinking, God, no, that film is so
3300
04:23:45,820 --> 04:23:47,960
awful, how can anybody try and say
anything nice about it?
3301
04:23:49,000 --> 04:23:52,240
I understand. It's really at the limit.
3302
04:23:52,480 --> 04:23:57,600
Why, of all things, are you interested
precisely in The Lake of the Dead?
3303
04:23:58,180 --> 04:24:01,120
But when it came out on DVD, it actually
looked a hell of a lot better.
3304
04:24:01,360 --> 04:24:04,980
Photography -wise, it looks actually
rather beautiful. The clarity of the
3305
04:24:04,980 --> 04:24:09,280
and the beauty of these French rural
settings are actually really quite
3306
04:24:09,280 --> 04:24:11,760
compelling, and I find myself drawn to
it.
3307
04:24:12,360 --> 04:24:15,420
It's one of those movies that I find
myself wanting to watch more often than
3308
04:24:15,420 --> 04:24:16,680
could possibly believe.
3309
04:24:17,660 --> 04:24:18,960
I'm in the mood for Zombie Lake.
3310
04:24:19,240 --> 04:24:20,240
What's wrong with me?
3311
04:24:20,640 --> 04:24:23,380
Why am I thinking this way? But I could
sit down and watch it again.
3312
04:24:24,820 --> 04:24:26,540
It's a little hard to explain.
3313
04:24:26,760 --> 04:24:29,140
I certainly wouldn't want to spread the
virus.
3314
04:24:29,400 --> 04:24:32,620
I don't want to try and convince anyone
else. So don't blame me if you go and
3315
04:24:32,620 --> 04:24:33,940
watch it. I'm not trying to persuade
you.
3316
04:24:34,440 --> 04:24:38,420
But there is something very strange
about it.
3317
04:24:38,740 --> 04:24:43,940
For instance, if you love zombie movies,
particularly from this period, the 70s
3318
04:24:43,940 --> 04:24:45,900
and 80s, it's always interesting to see
how...
3319
04:24:46,500 --> 04:24:49,200
divergent the zombies get and how they
act differently to the way they're meant
3320
04:24:49,200 --> 04:24:53,040
to act and this one's all over the place
i mean in this one you've got zombies
3321
04:24:53,040 --> 04:24:57,980
who have fights with each other over
points of honor you've got zombies who
3322
04:24:57,980 --> 04:25:01,920
for walks in the country with their
bastard offspring odd little touches
3323
04:25:01,920 --> 04:25:08,720
zombies who return from the grave to
express love and devotion to the child
3324
04:25:08,720 --> 04:25:12,820
they never saw whilst they were alive
it's crazy stuff really i mean you know
3325
04:25:12,820 --> 04:25:15,300
sort of like we're not dealing with
zombies in the sense of the the
3326
04:25:16,240 --> 04:25:20,800
you know, the accepted George Romero
sense at all. It's all over the place.
3327
04:25:20,800 --> 04:25:24,320
I kind of like that. Another way in
which these zombies don't work to the
3328
04:25:24,320 --> 04:25:27,660
zombie template is that the people that
are bitten by the zombies don't
3329
04:25:27,660 --> 04:25:29,320
resurrect and become zombies themselves.
3330
04:25:29,680 --> 04:25:33,820
There are no resurrected French
villagers who join the hordes and go on
3331
04:25:33,820 --> 04:25:38,400
rampage, which, when you think about it,
is a little bit like racial purity kind
3332
04:25:38,400 --> 04:25:43,140
of zombie style, because the Nazi
zombies don't want to create zombies
3333
04:25:43,140 --> 04:25:46,640
other races. They're too, you know...
They're too into their own thing. So
3334
04:25:46,640 --> 04:25:51,780
are no Frenchmen join in with this
platoon of Nazi zombies.
3335
04:25:52,540 --> 04:25:56,340
So, I mean, again, that's a twist which
you don't get in any of the versions of
3336
04:25:56,340 --> 04:25:57,319
the zombie mythos.
3337
04:25:57,320 --> 04:25:59,100
Our fate's now in our own hands.
3338
04:25:59,680 --> 04:26:03,500
We must find a way to safeguard our town
from the mad, murdering zombies.
3339
04:26:03,900 --> 04:26:06,800
I mean, there are some puzzling points
to do with the politics of it, I must
3340
04:26:06,800 --> 04:26:07,800
say.
3341
04:26:08,680 --> 04:26:13,220
Essentially, it's about, you know, not
to mince words, it's about some trollop
3342
04:26:13,220 --> 04:26:14,220
in France during the war.
3343
04:26:14,640 --> 04:26:19,580
who drops her knickers for a passing
German soldier, has a baby, and then
3344
04:26:19,580 --> 04:26:22,840
he's killed in the war a bit later, his
platoon are wiped out by the French
3345
04:26:22,840 --> 04:26:26,260
villagers and the partisan opposition in
France.
3346
04:26:26,580 --> 04:26:29,540
You would think, really, for a film made
in France, that the sympathies would
3347
04:26:29,540 --> 04:26:30,540
lie with the resistance.
3348
04:26:30,940 --> 04:26:34,340
But it's the German soldiers who are
given all the nobility.
3349
04:26:34,940 --> 04:26:38,460
In fact, there's one point where a
dignitary in the French village that are
3350
04:26:38,460 --> 04:26:42,560
being visited by these reanimated
zombies many years later says...
3351
04:26:42,890 --> 04:26:44,570
We brought this catastrophe on
ourselves.
3352
04:26:44,910 --> 04:26:46,270
What, by killing the Nazis?
3353
04:26:46,810 --> 04:26:50,210
Well, what a miscalculation.
3354
04:26:50,450 --> 04:26:52,790
I imagine you think we're all a little
crazy.
3355
04:26:53,010 --> 04:26:56,450
It just so happens we ain't. And the
French villagers, on the other hand, are
3356
04:26:56,450 --> 04:27:01,090
bunch of bad -tempered louts who
generally kind of shout and leer at
3357
04:27:01,090 --> 04:27:02,790
scantily -clad ladies, you know.
3358
04:27:03,610 --> 04:27:04,930
So you think, well, what are you saying?
3359
04:27:06,050 --> 04:27:07,050
I mean...
3360
04:27:07,120 --> 04:27:12,280
This was made in France. It was directed
at very short notice by one of France's
3361
04:27:12,280 --> 04:27:15,360
great, fantastic filmmakers, Jean
Rollin.
3362
04:27:16,720 --> 04:27:19,900
Nobody connected with the film wants to
claim that it's a valuable piece of
3363
04:27:19,900 --> 04:27:24,280
work. There is generally a sense that it
was swept up off the cutting room floor
3364
04:27:24,280 --> 04:27:25,860
virtually. It was about to be abandoned.
3365
04:27:27,440 --> 04:27:30,160
Jess Franco was the original director.
3366
04:27:30,640 --> 04:27:33,600
He pulled out because there wasn't
enough money.
3367
04:27:34,910 --> 04:27:37,690
If Jeff Franco's going to pull out
because there's not enough money around,
3368
04:27:37,690 --> 04:27:41,710
really is saying a lot, isn't it? I
mean, considering the kind of budgets
3369
04:27:41,710 --> 04:27:45,870
Franco would go along with, one should
as to think how little money there was
3370
04:27:45,870 --> 04:27:47,030
the table for this.
3371
04:27:47,990 --> 04:27:51,610
Apparently the producers, Yorosini,
phoned Jean Rolland over the weekend and
3372
04:27:51,610 --> 04:27:55,630
said, we need someone to come and pick
up on Monday and shoot this film.
3373
04:27:56,130 --> 04:27:57,130
Rolland said yes.
3374
04:27:58,030 --> 04:28:01,710
And there is a sentimental streak in the
film, which I think probably comes from
3375
04:28:01,710 --> 04:28:02,710
him.
3376
04:28:02,860 --> 04:28:07,140
No -one is quite sure what state the
script was in, if indeed there was a
3377
04:28:07,140 --> 04:28:08,140
script.
3378
04:28:08,680 --> 04:28:13,300
But there's a kind of a sentimental
element to the story involving the
3379
04:28:13,300 --> 04:28:19,260
Nazi's love for his daughter, which
perhaps has echoes in some of Roland's
3380
04:28:19,260 --> 04:28:20,260
films.
3381
04:28:20,940 --> 04:28:25,300
But on the other hand, this question of
the sympathetically portrayed noble
3382
04:28:25,300 --> 04:28:30,100
Nazis versus the coarse and vulgar
French villagers is...
3383
04:28:30,490 --> 04:28:32,730
coming out of left field. I don't know
who's responsible for that.
3384
04:28:34,750 --> 04:28:38,510
But it's little details like that that
make very, very low -budget films more
3385
04:28:38,510 --> 04:28:39,510
intriguing.
3386
04:28:40,290 --> 04:28:42,450
It's not programmatic. It doesn't make
sense.
3387
04:28:42,770 --> 04:28:46,450
It's not a very coherent movie, but the
way in which it falls short of coherence
3388
04:28:46,450 --> 04:28:48,170
is what justifies watching it, I think.
3389
04:28:48,530 --> 04:28:51,190
And the others are bad ghosts, but not
him.
3390
04:28:51,470 --> 04:28:57,410
As far as its attention from the
constabulary, again, it's hard to
3391
04:28:57,430 --> 04:28:58,430
really.
3392
04:28:59,210 --> 04:29:02,870
Probably due to the fact that it's just
a zombie film. It's called Zombie Lake.
3393
04:29:03,010 --> 04:29:08,070
So for PC Plod, who's been told to look
out for zombie flesh eaters, Zombie Lake
3394
04:29:08,070 --> 04:29:09,070
is probably near enough.
3395
04:29:09,510 --> 04:29:13,070
The cover's got some guy with pizza
stuck to his face chewing on someone's
3396
04:29:13,070 --> 04:29:14,070
throat.
3397
04:29:14,810 --> 04:29:16,390
That's probably all he needed to know.
3398
04:29:17,950 --> 04:29:21,550
Anybody who sat down to watch Zombie
Lake would have to wait.
3399
04:29:21,920 --> 04:29:25,060
quite a long time before they got to any
imagery at all that could be considered
3400
04:29:25,060 --> 04:29:28,260
shocking. In fact, most of this film,
certainly in the version that was
3401
04:29:28,260 --> 04:29:31,400
available on video, could probably have
been screened on television without any
3402
04:29:31,400 --> 04:29:34,200
major difficulties. It's not a grisly
film.
3403
04:29:34,520 --> 04:29:40,180
There is some female nudity. There are
some rather leering shots from
3404
04:29:40,180 --> 04:29:44,920
of female bathers, which in the uncut
version gives you quite an eyeful.
3405
04:29:45,400 --> 04:29:49,860
I don't think those shots are really...
A, they're not all there in the video
3406
04:29:49,860 --> 04:29:54,700
version, and B, the video transfer is so
murky anyway that you'd be lucky if you
3407
04:29:54,700 --> 04:30:00,060
could tell the difference between a
snatch and a piece of floating sort of
3408
04:30:00,060 --> 04:30:01,060
or something.
3409
04:30:36,590 --> 04:30:41,050
a whole team of basketball players,
women, just simply disappeared into the
3410
04:30:41,050 --> 04:30:42,950
lake, swallowed up by some ghosts.
3411
04:30:44,290 --> 04:30:45,290
Let's level, Mayor.
3412
04:30:45,610 --> 04:30:47,670
I hope you don't really think ghosts
killed them.
3413
04:30:48,830 --> 04:30:52,930
Yes, that's what I think. In fact, I'm
convinced of it. Me? I didn't see them.
3414
04:30:53,210 --> 04:30:57,530
Do you think that if any one of us had
seen those poor girls, we would have let
3415
04:30:57,530 --> 04:31:00,950
them go out there and get killed? Don't
you think we'd have told them to stay
3416
04:31:00,950 --> 04:31:01,950
away from the lake?
3417
04:31:40,200 --> 04:31:41,200
You're damn right.
3418
04:31:41,520 --> 04:31:44,920
We better face the fact that zombies
have declared war.
3419
04:31:45,400 --> 04:31:47,380
Our fate's now in our own hands.
3420
04:31:47,840 --> 04:31:51,780
We must find a way to safeguard our town
from the mad, murdering zombies.
3421
04:31:52,140 --> 04:31:53,220
We are not powerless.
3422
04:31:53,600 --> 04:31:54,600
We must act.
3423
04:31:55,240 --> 04:31:57,740
Do you know who the man with the
medallion is?
3424
04:31:58,640 --> 04:32:01,800
Yes, he's my father. The other ghosts,
if you want me to.
3425
04:32:02,020 --> 04:32:05,260
But I won't let you hurt him. I won't.
3426
04:32:05,740 --> 04:32:07,360
And he would like to be dead.
310230